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Today is Thursday, November 13th, 2025.
And we're going to be talking about identifying the fourth man in the furnace from the book of Daniel.
We're going to be talking about tonight, chapter 3.
So we're going to talk about other accounts too of where this angel or what we're going to call as Jesus has appeared all through the scripture from Old Testament to New Testament.
And it's just amazing.
It really is.
Just the parallels in the scripture is unreal.
So again, talk about identifying the fourth man in the furnace.
And we're going to be talking about that tonight.
So thank you, Brother Bill, in the chat room for moderating the chat tonight.
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So tonight we're going to really get into some scripture tonight.
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So tonight we're going to focus on the scripture because there's a lot involved here to talk about.
And very important message tonight.
So let's just see where the Lord takes us.
So basically, appearances of the angel of the Lord.
The term angel of the Lord is widely interpreted by Christian scholars to refer to a pre-incarnate appearance of Jesus Christ, especially when since figures is identified with God and accepts worship with no creation angels would do.
So, yeah, and so basically, our angels would never accept worship.
So, a regular angel of God, every time they appeared before man, they would bow down to them or whatever the case and venerate them.
And they was like, No, get up, get off your feet.
We're just messengers.
We're just giving you a message from God.
Don't worship us, don't pray to us, nothing like that.
But this one angel that appeared through the scripture honored the worship.
So, that would tell you one thing: it's not an angel of God, but it is from the Lord, plain and simple.
So, we're gonna get into that tonight.
Lots of stuff to talk about tonight.
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So anyway, let's dive right into the scriptures tonight.
Before we do that, big, big thing we're supposed to do is pray to the Lord.
So Jesus, Yeshua Messiah, we come before you, and please, we ask you once again, like we do every time, to forgive us individually of the individual sins we committed, any trespasses, any transgressions or abominations that any of us may have committed.
We pray for forgiveness to anoint us with your precious blood.
And we love you so much.
Just thank you so much for all the time.
Every time we're there to do something really stupid and dumb every day, you're there to be just to forgive us, Lord.
And we repent so much of our sins, Lord.
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Give us the Holy Spirit today, Lord, to help us disseminate this information and to bring your divine wisdom through the word of God, of your word.
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We pray that you protect us against any and all evil and help me speak good tonight, Lord, because I'm like mumble mouth today for some reason.
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And thank you, Father, for everything.
So let's get into the scriptures and everything.
So good stuff here.
And it's always important to pray first before you engage in any kind of spiritual warfare or biblical warfare here.
And anything you do with the Lord, anything at all, actually.
You know what I mean?
Before you go to work, before you do everything.
And we all forget to pray.
I'm guilty of that, man.
And I don't pray as much as I should be.
And especially all the free time we get, too.
You know, you're driving or whatever the case.
Just pray.
Just talk to God.
You know what I mean?
You don't have to close your eyes to do that.
There's no certain way to pray.
Just talk to the Lord.
Plain and simple.
So, Mother Nat, let's get going here.
So, Daniel 3:25 says, He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt.
And the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.
So, let's take this back, right?
This is thousands of years before Jesus came into the flesh, right?
So, we're going to get into this deep into Daniel.
We're going to go jump into the scriptures and show you where the Son of God appeared in the Old Testament.
Again, long before Jesus was born through Mary, and this is the thing, a lot of people can't concept, get this concept, even people in academia and scholars and all that.
They can't grasp it because you got to have a spiritual understanding to know Jesus.
Jesus did not come into existence through Mary.
People don't understand that.
It wasn't like, oh, Mary got pregnant.
She gave birth to Jesus.
Boom, Jesus comes into existence.
No, not at all.
Jesus was in existence long.
We don't even know.
Long before the earth was even thought of and created.
He's appeared to the prophets, the very prophets that prophesies of his coming.
He appeared to them to give them that revelation.
And it's just so phenomenal.
It really is.
For you to think about this, it just blows the mind away.
The carnal mind can't understand it, and some people can't accept it.
That's why they're so quick and loose to call this.
Oh, the Bible's full of crap, fairy tales, and all this other stuff.
But you can't write this.
You get all the best authors in the world together.
They couldn't even write something half as good as this.
So, that's why all the time we promote to read the Bible with the spiritual mind, not the carnal.
Even if you are academic, even if you have academia credentials, whatever, put that away.
Call upon the Holy Spirit to learn the Bible for the first time.
So, one more time, he said, He answered and said, The king said, What the heck's going on here?
I threw three people in that fire, three, and why do I see four?
And they're walking around in the fire, there's nothing wrong with them, and this fourth person looks like the son of God.
In other words, this guy was radiating brighter than that fire.
That's how they see him through the fire.
The radiance of Jesus, and which we've got to quickly identify, it's Jesus Christ, the pre-connect, Jesus Christ.
His radiance is more glorifying, more powerful than the sun itself.
So, vision, what this vision looks like, and no one knows the king quickly worship the God of Abraham.
So, we're going to get to that back to this.
Well, we're going to go to some other appearances here through the scriptures, like Hagar, right?
We go to Genesis 6, 7 through 14.
The angel of the Lord finds Hagar in the wilderness and speaks to her, revealing God's plan.
And Abraham, right?
And I should have put the, I do got the scripture.
So, I want to go through the scriptures.
I mean, there's a lot of it, so I'm going to go through some of it here.
And so, Hagar here, right?
Genesis 6, 7 through 14, 16, 17 to 14 says, And the angel of the Lord found her by a fountain of the water, and in the wilderness, talk about Hagar by the fountain of the way to Shur.
And he said, Hagar's Suri's maid, when you come here, though, thy wither will go.
And she said, I flee from the face of the mistress Surah.
And the angel of the Lord said unto her, Return to thy mistress, I'm sorry, and submit thyself under her hands.
And the angel of the Lord said unto her, I will multiply thy seed exceedingly, that it shall be numbered for multitude.
And the angel of the Lord said unto her, Behold, thou art the child that shall bear a son, and shall call his name Ishmael, because the Lord has heard thy affliction.
And he said to the wild man, his hands will be against every man, and every man's against him.
And he shall dwell in the presence of the brethren, or his own brethren.
And she called by the name of the Lord, spoke unto her, though God sent me, for he said, I have also here looked after him that sees me.
Wherefore, the well was called Belt.
Sorry, I can't pronounce this, Berchara.
Behold, it is between Kadash and Baird.
So the angel of the Lord gave her the plans that her seed is going to multiply greatly.
So, which means her children.
Right, then we got another account here of Abraham.
Right, a visitor appears to Abraham and his wife, and the conversation takes place with the Lord about the future of Sodom and Gomorrah.
This is Genesis 8:1 through 15.
And we all know what happened to that place, right?
So let's see what the Bible says.
And the Lord appeared unto him, him and plains of Mir.
And he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day.
So again, the Lord appeared.
Some people say, Oh, that's God.
Well, isn't Jesus called Lord as well?
And if you read the book of Enoch, right?
Jesus is also known as what?
The Lord of spirits in the book of Enoch.
He's called the Lord of spirits.
Hang on, let me turn.
So he's called the Lord of spirits.
And the Lord said unto the plains of Mera, yeah, I'm sorry, let me butcher that.
So, and the Lord appeared unto him in the plains of Mar, and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day.
And he lifted up his eyes and looked, and lo, three men stood by him.
When he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door and bowed himself toward the ground.
And said, My Lord, if now I have found favor in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee from thy servant.
Let a little water, I pray to you, be fetched to wash your feet and rest yourselves under the tree.
So, and I will fetch the morsels of bread and comfort your hearts after they shall pass on.
And therefore, you come to your servant.
And he said, So do, and thou hast did.
And Abraham hasn't into the tent of Sarah and said, Make ready three measures of fine meal, knead it, and make cakes upon the hearth.
And Abraham ran into the herd and fetched a calf, the tender, and good, and gave it to the young man, and he hastened it to dress it.
And he took the butter and the milk and the calf which he had dressed and set it before them.
And he stood by them under the tree, and they did eat it.
And he said unto them, Where is Sarah thy wife?
So these are the men of God.
Where is Sarah your wife?
And he said, Behold in the tent.
And he said, I will certainly return unto thee according to thy time of life.
And lo, Sarah, your wife, will have a son.
And Sarah heard it in the tent door, which he had behind them.
So she was in the tent behind them.
And now Abraham and Sarah are old and stricken with age.
And it ceased to be with Sarah after the manner of woman.
So basically, they were too old to have sex.
That's what's going on.
Just too old.
And how am I going to have a kid?
And that's what Sarah is like.
She laughed at them.
Right here, she laughed within herself, saying, I am waxed old.
Shall I have pleasure, my Lord, being also?
And the Lord said unto Abraham, Wherefore did Sarah laugh, saying, Shall I surely bear a child which I'm too old?
Is there anything too hard for the Lord?
They're asking at the time appointed, I will return unto you according to the time of life, and Sarah shall have a son.
And Sarah denied saying, I laughed not, for she was afraid.
And he said, Nay, but you did laugh.
And it goes on, and Sarah ended up having a kid.
So this was the angel of the Lord, the Lord, I'm sorry, the Lord appeared to them with two other angels next to him and told her, Yeah, you're going to have a kid.
And they were old.
They were all stricken with age.
At that point in life, they're probably on what compared to this today.
You know, you see, you got a couple that are in their 50s, 60s, 70s, whatever.
No, not 70s, but me.
50s and 60s.
Yeah, which old to have a kid, you know?
So the Lord told her, it's like, no, you know, you denying, did I doubt what I could do for you?
And you're going to have a kid.
And sure enough, she had a kid.
You know, all some stuff.
But again, another appearance of Jesus.
Then you got Abraham.
Again, the angel of the Lord stops Abraham from sacrificing the son, confirming God's promise.
Let me check my notes real quick.
And that's a link.
It's Genesis 22.
So, you know, Isaac, the son of Abraham, he was going to be the sacrifice because they didn't have a sacrifice.
So God told him, take your son Isaac, bring him up to a high mountain and sacrifice him.
If you love the Lord thy God, he was testing Abraham's faith.
So let's read what the scriptures have to say.
Genesis 22:11 to 18 says, The angel of the Lord again called onto him out of heaven and said, Abraham, Abraham.
And he said, Here I am.
He said, Lay not thy hand upon the lad, neither do any things unto him.
For now I know that you fear the Lord.
So this is after the point where Abraham tied his son up.
He literally had the dagger in his hand ready to kill his son for a sacrifice.
And the angel of the Lord called out from heaven, Jesus said, hey, I'm here.
And he said, don't touch your child, neither do anything unto him.
For now I know that you feared God, seeing though which you had withheld thy son, thy only son from me.
So this is a if you really look at this, right?
There's Abraham ready to slay his only son to prove his love for God.
He didn't like it, not at all.
I mean, he worried like that, you know, didn't take no pleasure in doing it.
So here he is ready to slay his son.
Now, is this a preempt to what can happen in the future?
The sacrifice of Jesus?
Well, yeah, just really pay attention to this because here he is ready to offer son.
You know, he's got the dagger ready to offer him, and God stops him at the last minute.
Now, you get the naysayers out there, the Bible scavengers will be like, oh, no, what kind of guy would have somebody kill their own son?
Well, God never had intended for him to kill his son.
This was just a test.
Abraham thought so.
He didn't like it.
He's like, oh, but I got to show my love for God.
He was probably full of tears and everything else.
I imagined.
I couldn't even imagine.
Ready to sacrifice him for God, and God stopped him at the last minute to show that Abraham really feared and loved the Lord.
But God had no intentions at all, him getting slaved.
It was just a test for Abraham.
But Abraham doesn't know that.
You know what I mean?
So, again, God said, lay not a hand upon your lad, neither do anything unto him.
For now I know you fear God, and see thou has withheld the son, thy only son from me.
So this is kind of a precursor to come in the future, right?
The sacrifice of Jesus in the flesh.
And Abraham lifted up his eyes and looked, and behold, a ram caught in the thickets of the horns, because his horns caught in a tree.
And Abraham went and took the ram and offered him up as a burnt sacrifice instead of his son.
And Abraham called the name of the place Jehovah, which is said to this day, it is the mount of the Lord, it shall be seen.
And the angel of the Lord called upon Abraham out of heaven the second time.
And said, By myself I have sworn and said the Lord, because you have done this thing and has not withheld thy son, thy only son, that is a blessing I will bless thee.
And I will multiply and multiply, and I will multiply your seed as the stars in heaven.
So in other words, your generation, your progni, your children and their children and children, right?
That's what that means.
More than the stars of heaven.
And the sand which is upon the seashore.
And thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies.
And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed because though has obeyed my voice.
And this is God, he made the Lord very happy and the father to show his true love for him because the thing is he put him through this test because Abraham was leading.
I mean, he was like the leader of, he was like the Moses at the time.
And God really wanted to test his love and faith for him.
And he, you know, say, you need to sacrifice your child.
And I can only imagine what kind of pain he was going through to do that, but he did it because he loved the Lord.
Well, he tried to, and God stopped him.
You know what I mean?
So, and we'll look what happened in the future.
Thousands of years later, Jesus came in the flesh.
He was born in the flesh.
He was limited.
He purposely limited his abilities as a man in the flesh.
This way he could experience the suffering and everything else.
Then he sacrificed himself.
The son of God was sacrificed.
God sacrificed his only begotten son for the remission of sins.
Because back then, you had to do a sacrifice to remit your sins.
That's what Abraham was trying to do.
So fast forward in the future, this is a preempt to what was to come.
It's just like amazing stuff really is.
It's truly amazing.
Yeah, it's crazy.
So Moses in Exodus 3, 2 and 6 says, the angel of the Lord, let me get to here.
So Moses, the angel of the Lord appears to Moses in the burning bush, identifies himself as God his fathers, and speaks to Moses.
Exodus 3, 1 through 6 says, Now Moses kept the flock of Jethro, his father-in-law, and priest in Midden, and he led the flock to the backside of the desert and came to the mountain of God, even to Horeb.
And the angel of the Lord appeared unto him, said the angel of the Lord here, appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of the bush.
And he looked, and behold, a bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.
And Moses said, I will now turn aside and see this great sight where the bush is not burned.
So he's watching this bush burn, but it's not burning.
So the question is with me, is like, could this be God himself or Jesus?
But still, it's just amazing, really, altogether.
So, and when the Lord saw that he turned aside to see, God called him and out of the midst of the bush, he said, Moses, Moses.
And he said, here I am.
And he said, draw not thy hither.
Put off your shoe.
Take off your shoes because you're standing on holy ground.
Moreover, he said, I am God of the Father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, the God of Jacob, and Moses.
And his face, and for he was not afraid to look upon God.
So this would identify more as the father than Jesus.
But still, it's just like an amazing account that this is happening.
And to go along with this, too, if you remember the transfiguration with Jesus on the mountain, right, with some of the disciples, he transfigured from the flesh into a radiant spirit being.
And there appeared to him Elijah and Moses speaking to Jesus.
Now, this is thousands of years after Elijah and Moses are gone.
You know what I mean?
Dead.
Especially Moses then, not too soon after Elijah died, right?
So you got these two great prophets that have already passed on years ago speaking to Jesus.
Now, Jesus transforms from the skin here into the spirit.
He was so radiant in light, it was blinding.
So it's just like a lot of parallels with the scripture.
It's pretty cool.
You know, it's like, yeah.
So we got this other one here.
Jacob, Jacob wrestles with the man who is identified as the angel of the Lord and blessed him.
So could this be Jesus?
We'll go to Genesis 32, 24 through 30 says, and Jacob was left alone and he wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day.
And when he saw that he prevailed against him, he touched the hollow of his thigh and the hollow of Jacob's thigh was out of joint.
And he wrestled with him.
And he said, let me go for the day breaks.
And he said, I will not let you go except though bless me.
So Jacob was persistent, persistent to be blessed by this angel of the Lord.
Even with a busted hip and everything.
And he said unto him, why is thy name?
And he said, Jacob, what is your name?
He said, Jacob.
And he said, thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel.
Your name now is going to be Israel.
For as the prince of Doah power with God and with men has prevailed.
And Jacob asked him, and he said, Tell me, pray thee thy name.
And he said, Wherefore it is those who does ask after my name.
And he blessed him there.
And Jacob called the name of the place Pinyal, for which it is seen God's face to face, and my life was preserved.
Now, people say, well, the Bible says nobody's seen God's face, whatever the case.
Well, you know what I mean?
Of course.
God's face himself.
And yeah, nobody's seen his face because I know people will be out there, Bible scoffers, be like, oh, over here, the Bible says nobody's seen God's face, but over here, he's seen God's face.
Now, you got to understand what God is in his heavenly abode, okay, the full presence of God.
Nobody's seen him.
God appeared in the form of a burning bush, or in this case, is man, or it could be Jesus.
We don't know.
But it's definitely one of them.
You know what I mean?
And so I just want to bring this up because these appearances of the Lord in the flesh many times.
So, and Jacob was so persistent because he wanted to lead his nation.
And God tested him.
Now, yeah, theoretically, God could have destroyed him.
No problem.
But he did this for purpose.
To really put Jacob to the test, to put his metal to the test.
You know what I mean?
And Jacob passed it.
And that's why God ended up blessing him.
Amazing stuff.
So you got Joshua here again.
A man with a drawn sword appears to Joshua.
It claims the authority of the Lord.
So automatically, this has to be the Lord, Jesus.
And when Joshua begins to worship him, the vision tells Joshua to remove his sandals as a place that's holy, just as God told Moses.
So again, when we go back to that, we could identify the stuff used in the Bible.
So again, the angel of the Lord, regular angel of the Lord, will not welcome worship.
They'll tell you, no, get up off your feet, whatever.
Don't worship me.
Don't pray to me.
I'm just a messenger, so I am.
Now, when the angel, this here in the case, who accept the worship, which he's doing now, this will identify as Jesus or God himself, which the two are one in the spirit.
God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit.
Then you go to Joshua 5, 13 through 15.
It says, And it came to pass when Joshua was by Jericho, and he lifted up his eyes and looked.
And behold, there stood a man over against him with a sword drawn in his hand.
And Joshua went unto him and said unto him, Thou art for us or for the adversaries, which is the enemies.
And he said, Nay, which is no, but as a captain of the host of the Lord.
The captain, so whereabout, but as a captain of the host of the Lord, I am now come.
And Joshua fell on his face to the ground and did worship and said unto him, Why says my Lord unto my servant?
Why you send the Lord unto my servant?
And the captain of the Lord's host said unto Joshua, loose thy shoes from thy feet, because where you stand right now is holy land.
And Joshua did so.
Because we identify this as Jesus, or maybe, but the thing is, it's accepted worship.
Because if it was Michael the Archangel, it wouldn't accept the worship.
So a captain of the host of the Lord, which might identify as Jesus Christ.
I mean, each one of these things you could look further into.
And these are just like being put out there today to really show you that God himself or Jesus appeared before men long before Jesus was born into the flesh, even afterwards.
Then you have Gideon here in Judges 6, 11 to 24.
The angel of the Lord appears to Gideon and commissions him to save Israel.
And we can run through that scripture real quick here.
This is Judges 6, 11 through 24.
And it goes on.
And there came an angel of the Lord and sat under the oak which was Oprah.
So right away when you see angel of the Lord, right, that could be anything.
That could be Michael the archangel, just a regular angel, whatever the case, a seraphim, whatever the case, right?
It could be anything like that, angel of the Lord.
And sat under the yoke, which is Ophram and betained unto Josh, the Ebizerite.
And his son Gideon threshed wheat by the wine press to hide from the Midianites.
And the angel of the Lord appeared unto him and said unto him, the Lord is with you, though mighty man of valor.
So he's called, you know, addressing Gideon, saying, the Lord is with you, you might a man of valor.
And Gideon said unto him, oh my Lord, if the Lord be with us, why then is this befalling us?
Why is this happening?
And where is all his miracles which our fathers told us, saying, did not the Lord bring us out from out of Egypt?
And now the Lord has forsaken us and delivered us into the hands of the Midianites?
And the Lord looked upon him.
So he's now saying the Lord.
So right there, they wouldn't call an angel, a regular angel, Lord.
So now, because again, the Bible interprets itself.
So at the beginco, right?
We're looking at an angel of the Lord.
So again, that could identify as anything.
Not necessarily Jesus, whatever, but angel of the Lord, which sounds like a regular angel, right?
But as you read on, let the scripture interpret itself.
We didn't have to interpret nothing because now look at the saying, and the Lord looked upon him.
So automatically saying, identifying this angel of the Lord even more, it's the Lord.
And the Lord looked upon him, said, go in this might, and you shall save Israel from the hand of the Midianites.
I have not sent thee.
Have I not sent you?
And they said unto him, oh my Lord.
Now he's addressing him as Lord, right?
So over here, he addressed him as Lord.
Again, he started off with the angel of the Lord, right?
And we go on to figure out, all right.
Gideon is dressed in this angel as Lord twice.
And it reveals himself as Lord.
The Lord looked upon him, right?
So this is, well, I would assume this is Jesus.
Because it was the father.
I mean, I think it would be, he would say, I'm the Lord, God himself, whatever the case.
But yeah, the Lord, who's the king, no one knows how it's capital L. In the Bible, every time you see a capital L, it's referring to Jesus.
Now, there's many Lords, right, in different deities and all that.
And the Bible will never identify any other Lord with a capital L.
It will be a low case L. Like any other God will be a low case G. God himself will be the capital G to refer that real God, real Lord here.
He's the Lord of Lord, the king of kings.
So we're identified now as confirming that this is Jesus, pre-carnate Jesus.
And he said unto him, oh my Lord, again, calling him Lord, where will so I save, how shall I save Israel?
Behold, my family's poor and maniac, and I am the least of my father's house.
In other words, I'm probably the last in front of me, you know, the weakest, whatever.
And the Lord, again, said unto him, surely I will be with you.
And those shall smite the Midians as one man.
And he said unto him, If now I have found grace in thy sight, then show me the sign that talks to me with me.
And depart hence.
So he's asking the Lord to show him a sign.
And depart now, hence, I pray thee, until I come unto thee, and I bring forth my present.
And I set it before you.
And he said, I will tarry until you come again.
And the Gideon went in and made ready for a kid.
And unleavened cakes and elfin flour and flesh he put in a basket.
And he put in the broth of the pot and brought it into him under the oath, under the oak, I'm sorry, and presented it.
So, and the angel of the Lord of God, so all right, so if it was God the Father, he would be an angel of the Lord of God.
So this would identify him as using these clues there.
We're not clues, it's just like the Bible interpreted itself.
This is Jesus.
Because a regular angel, you never address the Lord.
They don't accept that.
This is Jesus Christ.
Pre-chronic Jesus.
But he said to him, to Gideon, take the flesh and the unleavened cakes and lay them upon this rock, and I pour out the broth.
And he did so.
The angel of the Lord put forth the end of the staff that was within his hand and touched the flesh and unleavened cakes.
And they rose up a fire out of the rock and consumed the flesh and the unleavened cakes.
Then the angel of the Lord departed out of his sight.
And when Gideon perceived that he was an angel of the Lord, Gideon said, also, O Lord, God, for because I have seen an angel of the Lord face to face.
So now he's praying to the Father.
So the angel of the Lord, so this is Jesus Christ.
And the Lord said unto him, Peace unto you.
Fear not, though I shall not die.
Then Gideon built up an altar unto the Lord and called it Jehomon Shalom, which I believe God's with us, unto this day it is yet an opra of the Abrazites.
Then eventually Gideon went on to lead the army to destroy the Ebonites, thus saving Israel.
So it's just amazing when you read description context.
Then it leads us right back to Daniel chapter 3 again, and the fourth man in the fire.
Who's this fourth man in the fire?
So again, we let the scripture interpret scripture.
And we go on, let me take a drink here.
So Daniel chapter 3, Nebuchadnezzar, the king, God, I'm sorry, Nebuchadnezzar, king, made an image of gold.
So this king in Nebuchadnezzar made this image of gold whose height was three score cubits.
And the breadth thereof, breadth of six cubits.
So the width of it.
And he set it up in the plain of Dora in the province of Babylon.
So I want to point out real quick too, what a cubit is.
So a cubit in today's world, it's one and a half feet, about that, 1.5 feet, whatever case, that makes up one cubit.
But back then, they didn't have a universal metrics and standards.
So a cubit will be from your elbow to your fingertip.
And that's why I truly believe that Noah's Arkwait is a lot bigger than what it's perceived to be.
Like 400 feet, they say it was.
No, I think it was a lot bigger than that.
Because Noah was a big man.
So if you're a big person, man, and your hand, your elbow to your fingertip, it's going to be a lot longer than one and a half foot.
And if a kid did it, I mean, of course, it was going to be shorter.
You know what I mean?
So it went by that.
And people used to, back in the day, too, when they say like 10 feet, right?
They would literally pace 10 feet with their footsteps.
Now today, a foot is 12 inches.
That wasn't that back then.
It was the size of your foot.
I have a size 13, and Josiah or brother Bill has a size 10.
His 10 feet are going to be shorter than mine.
They didn't have universal metrics and standards like they do today.
And I don't know when this happened, maybe 100, 200 years ago when everybody got together and say, all right, let's settle this.
Okay, let's make a foot 12 inches.
Everybody agreed upon it.
Let's make a cubit 1.5 feet.
Everybody agreed upon it.
And so on.
You know what I mean?
But back then, it wasn't like that.
So you got to think when you're reading these things, right?
It helps a lot because, you know, people say, oh, this sounds dumb.
It sounds stupid.
How could these things be the size?
Whatever the case doesn't, the mass hasn't up.
You got to understand.
Back then it was different.
You got to understand and think of what things were back then compared to today.
And then things make sense easily.
They really do.
So going back again, King Nebuchadnezzar, the king made an image of gold whose height was three score cubits and the width, breadth, whatever, whatever, on the six cubits.
And he set it up in the plain of Dorah in the province of Babylon.
Then King Nebuchadnezzar, the king, sent to gather together the princes, the governors, and the captors, the judges, and the treasurers, the counselors, the sheriffs, and all the rulers of the provinces to come to the dedication of the image of Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up.
So King Nebuchadnezzar had this huge gold idol made for him, right?
And he called all the leaders of Babylon to come out to worship this thing.
So then the princes, governors, captains, judges, treasurers, counselors, sheriffs, and all the rulers of the provinces were all gathered together onto the dedication of this memorial, this image that Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up.
And they stood before the image of Nebuchadnezzar had set up.
So I don't even know what this might have looked like, but it's a statue.
Then Herald cried out.
Herald, which is cried out, this is like the king's messenger.
He'll summon everybody.
Everybody, attention, everybody.
You know, the one that blows a horn or goes here, you hear whatever.
So he got everybody's attention.
To you, it is command, all people, nations, and languages, that at what time you hear the sound of the cornet, flute, hop, backpipe, sackbot, I mean, pulsi, dosoma, and all kinds of music, you fall down and worship the golden image that Nebuchadnezzar has set up.
The king set up.
So they're saying, this guy who is the announcer for the king, telling everybody, listen, when you hear this music, these instruments playing all that, you need to stop what you're doing immediately, and you need to fall down and worship this golden image of King Nebuchadnezzar.
So I'm assuming it's a statue of Nebuchadnezzar.
That's what it looks like, right?
And who does not fall down and worship it, the same hour shall be cast in the midst of the burning furniture, fiery furnace.
So if this music plays and you're not found worshiping this thing on your face, you've got to be thrown into the burning furnace.
Therefore, at the time, when the people heard the sound of the cornet, the flute, the harp, the sackpipe, pulsi, and all kinds of music, would you say the music?
And all the people of the nations and the languages fell down and worshiped the golden image that Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up.
And wherefore at the time, a certain Chaldean name came near and accused the Jews and spoke and said to the king Nebuchadnezzar, O king, live forever.
O king has made a decree that every man shall hear, that hears this music shall fall down and worship the golden image.
And whoever does not do so will be thrown into the fiery furnace.
And therefore, certain Jews whom they'll have set over affairs of the province of Babylon, Shadrach, Meshnach, and Abednego, these men, O king, have not regarded you.
They serve not thy gods.
Look at the lowercase G. Anywhere in the Bible, because you got new ages out there.
Oh, God said there's other gods.
No, it's a false God.
Anywhere in the Bible where it's a lowercase G for God or gods, it's fake.
They're false.
The real God is with the capital.
So I just want to point that out there.
And he's going on.
These three men that are in the province of Babylon, Shadrach, Mishnach, and Abedego.
These three men have not obeyed you.
And they don't serve your gods nor worship the golden image that you have set up.
So then King Nebuchadnezzar in his rage, if Fury commanded to bring these three men, Shadrach, Mishraach, and Abidigo, that they brought these men before the king.
So the king was furious.
What the heck?
I gave him an order.
You better listen to it.
So Nebuchadnezzar spoke and said to them, It is true.
Is this true?
Oh, Shadrach, Meshnach, and Abidnego, you do not serve my gods, nor worship that golden image which I have set up.
Now, if you be ready, what time are you here?
You hear the sound of the corner.
So basically, he said, If you're not ready, okay, at what time you hear this music playing all the music, you fall down and worship the image which I have made well.
But if you do not worship, you will be cast the same hour into the midst of the fiery furnace.
And who is that God?
Now, look, capital G.
So that capital G now is God Himself.
This is why I tell people all the time: you need to read the Bible carefully.
Take your time.
Not like me, like doing it today, you know, just the lesson today.
But when you read this on you, take your time because you could easily misinterpret things.
The Bible is very specific to the T, to the punctuation, everything.
You know what I mean?
So this is God now, referring to God, the Heavenly Father.
This God over here, he's talking about gods, those are false gods.
And he, who, I'm sorry, that is God that shall deliver you out of my hands.
So, because they found out they worship God, not his god, low case he gods, he goes, like, all right, it's like when this music plays, and if you're not on your face bowing, guess what?
You're going into the fiery furnace.
That's what's going to happen.
And let's see your God deliver you from this.
Deliver him out of my hands.
That's what he's saying to these three people.
Tempt them.
So, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abnego answered and said to the king, Oh, Nebuchadnezzar, we are not careful to enter in this matter.
If it be so, our God, a capital G, God, whom we serve, is able to deliver us from the burning fire furnace.
And he will deliver us out of your hands, O king.
But if not, be it known unto thee, O king, that we are that we will not serve thy gods, again go lowercase here, nor worship the golden image which you have made.
Now, mind you, right?
That's a second commandment violation.
Having statues even to this day, the second commandment of the same thing.
Catholic Church worships whatever.
We're not going to get to that.
But yeah, this is set.
They knew this is a second commandment violation.
You know what I mean?
You don't worship.
God hates idolatry with a passion.
He destroys cities and everything from idolatry.
Hates idolatry with passion.
Makes that very clear.
In Exodus 20.
But they said, all right, if let it be known then that he's saying to the king, that all through him the same thing.
Let it be known then unto you, O king, that we will not serve your gods or worship your golden image you had set up.
That King Nebuchadnezzar was full of fury.
He was angry now.
And the form of his visage was changed against Shadrach, Meshach, and Sabnego.
Therefore, he spoke and commanded that they should heat the fiery furnace once seven times more than it was not normally heated.
So in other words, what was normally heated, now he was so peed off, right?
He's like, all right, I want it seven times hotter than it normally is.
Just stoke that thing, get it like he was like, he's just ripping because you're insulting me.
You're insulting my gods.
And you think your God's going to save you?
I want to teach you a lesson.
I'm going to heat that thing, you know, fiery and all that hotter than it ever could be.
Then he commanded the most mighty men that were in his army to bind Shadrach, Meshnach, and Endigo to cast them into the burning fiery furnace.
And these three men, the three of these guys, right, these then these three, I'm sorry, these men were bound in their coats, their hose and their hats, and all the other garments were cast into the fire.
So basically they covered them all, their clothes and everything.
And were cast into the midst of the fire, the burning fiery furnace.
Now, this thing was blazing, and they made them put their clothes on to make it worse.
Therefore, because the king's command was urgent, and the furnace was exceedingly hot, the flames of the fire slew those men that took Shadrach, Meshach, and Abnego.
So this is how it was.
So basically the men that were leading them into the fire, right?
They got consumed by the fire.
This is how hot this thing was.
They got consumed too by the fire.
So as soon as they pushed them in, they burned too.
And these three men, again, the gods, whatever, these military men that brought them into them, they died because the fire was so hot that it made them caught on fire.
And these three men, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abnego, fell down, bound into the midst of the fiery furnace.
Then King Nebuchadnezzar was astonished and rose up in Hassan spoke and said unto his counselors, did not we cast three men bound into the midst of the fire?
They answered unto the king, oh yes, it's true.
Yeah, we do three men in that.
And he answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose walking around in the midst of the fire.
They have no hurt on them or no form of default as like the son of God.
So, you know, they knew that three of them went in.
You know, three went into fire.
And all of a sudden, he's like, the heck is four of them now.
What the heck?
And this fault is like the son of God.
And back then, you know what I mean?
This is long before Jesus, the son of God, came into the flesh.
You know what I mean?
So this is spectacular.
It really is.
Then Nebuchadnezzar came near the mouth of the fiery burn from the furnace and spoke and said, like he went close as he could.
And he spoke and said, Shadrach, Meshnach, and Abednego, ye servants of the most high God.
So he's calling them out of the furnace.
Come forth and come here.
Then Shadrach, Meshnach, and Abdigo came forth in the midst of the fire.
So at this point, and then now notice how he addressed that God as his God now, the most high God.
Because he's like, what the heck?
You know, you imagine seeing that the fire is seven times worse.
You got these people now.
All of a sudden, you see four people walking around, and the fourth one is like the son of God.
So what that would say, indicate, right, we could actually understand what we're looking at here.
So you see the three men and the fourth person.
He said he looked like the son of God.
What would that indicate to you?
That this man had to be brighter than the fire itself.
He had to stand out to be called the Son of God.
You know what I mean?
So if you really put your mind of that place what's going on here and examine this, you could see like this visualized because you see the three men and for him to call this other one the son of God.
There's got to be something spectacular seeing him that stands out from the other three.
I mean just the fact that they're walking around in the fire just mind-boggling on its own.
But yet he sees this fourth person address him as like this like the son of God.
And like I said, when Jesus appears, even to these days, people claim to see him.
He's not white.
He's not black.
He's not olive skin or anything like that.
He's bright, radiant red.
White, I'm sorry.
Like in Revelation, God describes him when he returns.
He's got the feet like bronze because of the heat, right?
But his face is like the shining sun.
Brother than the sun.
The radiance of him.
And everybody's claiming to see him had radiance.
It was blinding light.
That's how bright Jesus is.
So, because you imagine then, and you understand, Jesus is timeless.
Time and space and all that doesn't equip him, doesn't exist him.
There's so many awesome parallels and everything in the scriptures.
So again, King Nebuchadnezzar just astonished.
And they'll go back here.
Saying that he was like the Son of God.
And again, the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.
So again, his form was different from the three Shadrach, Meshach, and Abnego.
And the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.
Then Nebuchadnezzar went near the fire as much as he could.
Then he called Shadrach, Meshach, and Abnego to come out of the fire.
Come here, he says.
And Shadrach, Meshach, and Abnego came forth out of the midst of the fire.
And the princes, governors, and captains, and kings, counselors, being gathered together, saw these men upon whose bodies had no, the fire had no power, nor any here or this head to sing or anything.
So completely unburned.
Neither were the clothes.
Not even a smell of fire had passed on them.
So just standing near a fire, my sweatshirt here.
We had a fryer or a Saturday night, whatever, and that still smells like smoke a little.
You know what I mean?
So there was no smoke at all, nothing like that on the clothes.
Like they never went near a fire.
Then King Nebuchadnezzar spoke and he said, Blessed be the God of Shadrach, Meshnach, and Abnego.
Again, capital G to the real God, who has sent his angel and delivered his servant that trusted in him and have changed the word, I'm sorry, the king's word, and yielded their bodies, and that they might not serve or worship any God except their own God.
So look, again, they might not serve nor worship any God, lowercase G, except their own God.
Capital G, they're referring to, again, good example right here.
Real God, fake God.
Real God.
You know what I mean?
Therefore, I make a decree that every people, nation, and language which may speak things amongst the God of Sheri.
So basically saying, now I'm making the decree now.
Anybody that speaks against the God of Shadrach, Meshnach, and Abnego shall be cut in pieces.
And the houses shall be made the dunghill because there is no other God, again, the real God, can deliver us after the soul.
Then the king promoted Shadrach, Meshnech, and Ebnego in the province of Babylon.
So it took something drastic like this for the king to change.
So, and I want to really reach out to people with this too today.
So, this is a lot of lessons involved here.
So, you could see that kings, God sets up kings, presidents, prime ministers, whatever, right?
So, and you see a lot of them are evil, right?
A lot of them go good to evil, evil to good, right?
So, you've seen that King Nebuchadnezzar all formed himself, right?
Authoritarian and everything else.
You better bow, when you hear this music, you better bow down.
Then, when he's seen this happen in his own eyes, he's like, whoa, completely changed his talk.
So, what is it saying?
It's like, we all need to pray for our leaders.
You know what I mean?
Much as I didn't like Obama and Biden, whatever.
Yeah, I pray for them, hoping they would turn around.
Much as some people don't like Trump, pray for the man.
You never know, man.
It could be the worst leader in the world.
It could be Saddam Hussein when he was alive.
God could turn them around.
You know what I mean?
So always pray for your leaders.
You know what I mean?
And because anything can happen.
We've seen witnesses right here in the scriptures.
A thing like this completely changed Nebuchadnezzar.
All full of himself and all this stuff, right?
Completely changed for the Lord.
Now a full worship of God, the real God.
It's just like amazing stuff, it really is.
And so, yeah, the fourth man, yeah, it's Jesus.
And you can even go back to Daniel's and Elias then.
Which is amazing.
You know what I mean?
Which I didn't put that up yet.
Hold on a second.
This is just amazing.
Hang on a second.
Let me get the scripture for that because I forgot to put that up.
It's Daniel chapter 6.
And what a book Daniel is, man.
And if it doesn't show pre-connant Jesus, and I don't know what it does.
Tons of accounts.
And we could go.
We've got time for this.
Actually, yeah, I've got a couple minutes.
So, and it pleased Darian, Darius, to set up the kingdom over 120 princes, and it should be over the whole kingdom.
And so the same thing.
So over these presidents, whom Daniel was first, that the prince may give accounts to them and should not have no damage.
And this Daniel preferred above the presidents and princes because of excellent spirit was in him.
And the king saw to set him over the whole room.
Then the presidents, kings, and all that sort.
Let me just skip ahead here because we are out of time.
So anyway, long story short.
Let me skip up here.
Hang on a second.
I'm sorry, guys.
I just feel like I should just throw this in here.
All right, so we'll go up to verse 14.
Then the king, when he heard that these words were sore, displeased with himself, and set his heart on Daniel to deliver him.
And he labored till he gone down into the sun and delivered him.
So basically, Daniel was in his favor until, again, same kind of thing.
Didn't worship his God.
And Daniel was faithful to God.
So anyway, fast forward here.
Then these men assembled unto the king and said unto the king, Know, O king, that the law of the Medes and Persians is that no decree or statue which the king established may be changed.
Then the king commanded that they bring Daniel and he cast him into the den of lions.
And now the king spoke and said unto Daniel, thy God whom you serve continually will deliver thee.
So he loves Daniel.
The king loves Daniel, but he's got to go by the law that the Persians and the Lord of the Persians and Medes.
That I can't do that.
I'm not above the law.
I have to honor the law.
No, he's like, he's telling Daniel, listen, I got to put you in the lion's den.
I have no choice.
But can your God deliver you from this?
So he's kind of on Daniel's side.
You know what I mean?
So he's not, you know, he's caught between a hot or rock and a hard place, so to speak, right?
So, and the stone was brought and laid upon the mouth of the lion, and the king sealed it with the own signet and with the signet of his lords, and the purpose that might not be changed concerning Daniel.
So they're like, yeah, we can't change the law.
It has to stay that way.
So, and then the king went to his palace and passed the night fasting.
Neither were instruments or music brought before him, and his sleep went from him.
So he was just sleepless all night.
Then the king rose early in the morning and went to haste into the den of lions.
So he couldn't sleep because he knew Daniels and he didn't want Daniel going to the law.
He loved Daniel.
But he had to go by the law.
And he didn't get no sleep that night and everything else.
He didn't want no music, nothing.
Just leave me alone.
So he woke up in the morning.
And he woke up early in the morning.
And so he went, I would say when he came to the den of lions, he cried with the lamentable voice until Daniel.
So he was upset.
He thought he was going to find like shreds of Daniel, maybe, whatever, all gone.
And the king spoke and said to Daniel, O Daniel, servant of the living God, is thy God whom the servants continually able to deliver you from the lions?
Then said Daniel unto the king, O king, live forever.
Showing respect.
That's how they showed respect.
And my God has sent his angel that shut the mouths of the lions that have not hurt me.
For as much as before in Israel was found in me, also before thee, O king, have I done no hurt?
Then was the king exceedingly glad from he was happy that God delivered him and commanded that they should take him out of the den.
So Daniel was taken up out of the den and no manner of hurt was found upon him because he believed in his God.
And the king commanded that and they brought those men which had accused Daniel because they wrongfully accused, you know, they brought all kinds of things against him too, you know.
So and they cast them into the land of lions and their children and their waves and the lions had mastery of them and break them bones and pieces and they ate them up plain and simple.
The same lions, but they haven't touched Daniel all night.
Amazing, huh?
And then King Darius wrote unto all people, nations, languages that dwell on the earth.
Peace be multiplied unto you.
I make a decree.
So another king changed his tone.
I make a decree that every dominion of my kingdom, men tremble and fear the Lord God, capital J of Daniel.
For he is the living God and steadfast over ever in the kingdom of which he will be destroyed and his dominion shall be unto the end.
And he delivered and rescued the works, signs of wonders in heaven and the earth, who has delivered Daniel from the power of lions.
So Daniel prospered in the reign of Darius and in the reign of Cyrus the Persian.
Because of this miracle, if you want to call it that.
It's amazing.
So was that Jesus closing the mouth of the lions?
Or simply just regular angels?
The lions had no intention at all.
And the thing is, too, the animals know God.
If you know anything about creation, too, they all know God.
birds like jesus says does the birds not worry about what they're gonna eat tomorrow they know god's they didn't says it they you know let me uh i should just pull that up but yeah it's just like a very important stuff here Matthew 6, 26.
Behold, the foul of the air, the birds, right?
For they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into bonds.
Yet your heavenly Father feeds them.
Are they not much better than you?
So they trust God, the birds, the insects, everything.
They trust God.
They know God's going to feed them.
You know what I mean?
That's when it was talked about with faith.
Have faith.
Because if God feeds them, you're much better than them.
Have faith, right?
But anyway, it's just a saying, you know what I mean?
They know God.
You know what I mean?
The animals know God.
So if the lions were told to shut up, don't eat him.
He was probably sitting there petting them all night.
They're licking his face and everything.
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
So, yeah, that's pretty awesome stuff, man.
And yeah, we go on all night stuff.
I already read this here.
So, I forgot I had the slides for this.
But, yeah.
And we'll leave off here at Revelation 1:7 to 8.
Behold, he comes with clouds, and every eye you shall see him.
And they which also pierce him, and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him.
Even so, amen.
I am the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, says the Lord, which is and was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
So, if you take a look at that, right?
Like I said, he's timeless.
And people can't break the concept because the carnal mind to understand that he was around long before creation.
How could he come be born from Mary but be around back then?
Makes no sense.
Yeah, makes no sense with your carnal mind.
Makes complete sense with the spiritual mind.
He says, I am the beginning, the end, the first and the last, the alpha and omega, which is and was and to come.
That's Jesus.
So we read about Jesus in Exodus.
We read about Jesus in Genesis.
The first prophecy in Genesis chapter 3 when he talks about when he confronted Adam, Eden, and the serpent.
God did.
He's like, hey, your seed's got to bruise his heel.
Her seed's got to crush the head of your seed.
Talking about the coming of the Antichrist, the coming of Jesus.
So when somebody says, oh, Jesus is just a New Testament thing, you tell them you better go back and read the Bible.
Because Jesus is timeless.
He's from like time and space doesn't exist to him.
Look at, again, go to the mountain transfiguration.
Talking to Moses, talking, we don't know how that occurred.
Did he go back in time to talk to them?
And they're seeing this with a vision.
Because Moses talked to Jesus back then.
So did Elijah.
Was Jesus going back in time to do that?
Some kind of a portal like.
Or was it just them all meeting the spirit and the flesh or in the spirit on the mountain?
Why were they meeting on the spirit and the mountain?
Yeah, I mean, we could go down these rabbit holes and all that, but it's just so fascinating.
And remember when Jesus is writing in the sand, spitting the sand, writing in whatever the case?
Could that have been the finger on King Belshusa's wall writing that prophecy going back in time?
There's just so many parallels.
There really is.
And so again, Jesus is timeless.
And he says so right here.
I am the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, says the Lord, which is, which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
God the Father, God the Son, the God the Holy Spirit.
The two are one.
God and Jesus are one in the Spirit.
Yes, when Jesus was here on the earth, and then he was in the belly of the earth, saving the lost in hell for three days, the Father was still at the throne.
Oh, how could they be one?
Because of the same spirit.
You have to think with a carnal mind.
I mean, the spiritual mind, not the carnal mind, to understand that.
They are one in spirit.
So coming up tomorrow night, guys, yeah, we're going to get into some cool stuff tomorrow night.