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	Link is in the description and welcome everybody to Spiritual Warfare Friday.
	And yes, we are live, live, live.
	So, we haven't been live in the last couple weeks because of the guests.
	They couldn't come on live, but we are live here with Justin Odie Brown.
	And what is up, brother?
	Hey, what's happening, man?
	Appreciate you having me on.
	It's been a while.
	Yeah, and the last time we had him on was a couple years ago when he was writing his book.
	So it was pretty cool, The Epic of Esau.
	So that's what we're going to talk about tonight, guys.
	The Epic of Esau, elongated skulls.
	And we're going to be all over the place with this archaeological stuff, Nephilim, and all that good stuff.
	So we just got to have a good old time tonight here.
	And welcome everybody in the chat room.
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	We need to build his channel up too because we all need to work together in this game here, guys, to go against the enemy.
	So, yeah.
	So, anyway, guys, welcome to Spiritual World for Friday.
	Tonight's broadcast, The Epic of Esau and the Elongated Skulls.
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	So crazy stuff.
	But anyway, welcome, Justin.
	How are you doing, brother?
	Welcome back, I should say.
	Yeah, man, I'm doing good, man.
	I was excited to connect back with you, especially where we got SpiracyCon coming up.
	We actually get to meet in person, man.
	Just a banger of a lineup.
	I'm real thankful to even be among some of these names, man.
	John, John put together a really good event.
	Yep, and there's a website right there, guys.
	And you're going to see it along this Richie from Boston, David Carrico, Charlie Raymond, approaching eternity, Aaron Judkins, who I hope and pray that he could come on next week.
	I did contact him.
	John Pounders, and we got so many people.
	Brian, the milkman over there, Casper McLeod, and there's that big Hulk man, Dan Badondi.
	So watch out for him.
	He's a dangerous guy.
	Not just joking.
	And I got Bill Messiah, Mike Edwards, Donald, Don Neal, Jillian Stone, Travis Carpenter, Diana Ketterman, and Justin Brown.
	You look like a ghostbuster in that picture.
	Oh, yeah.
	You got Zach Lewis and Lionel Tavares.
	So awesome lineup.
	I like the cartoons, though, because it looks like you're all comic book superheroes.
	Yeah, I took one.
	I think it was Brian had made some images with AI, and one of the images he made was Doc Brown in the DeLorean.
	Oh, yeah, yep.
	So I couldn't resist.
	I took that image and I took the photo he made and I inserted my face with the white hair.
	That's awesome, man.
	Yeah, Brian's awesome with this stuff.
	Yeah, he made you look like a ghostbuster there.
	Who are you going to call?
	Justin Brown.
	So anyway, guys, Justin Brown, he's an author, a talk show host.
	And again, please, guys, subscribe to his channel.
	Let's build that up.
	Take the time where you know, get an introduction here.
	Build that Prometheus Lens podcast up.
	And he's got another one too.
	The Big Bible Podcast.
	So all the links are in the description.
	So check them out.
	Before we get going, let's engage in some spiritual warfare with some prayer.
	I'm number one important thing to do.
	So, if you join me in prayer, guys, and yes, you're Jesus, Messiah, we come before you.
	And thank you so much for great guests like Justin O.D. Brown here and all the guests we have on here, and especially the people here tuning in that seek to hear your word, Lord.
	And thank you for using us as vessels to preach your word.
	And we ask you to forgive us all individually for the sins and the dumb, dumb, stupid things we do every day, Lord.
	And it's so shameful.
	I mean, but you know, thanks to you because we all be going to hell without you, huh?
	I really would.
	So, thank you for that.
	And again, please forgive us all individuals that sins and trespasses, transgressions, or abominations that any of us may committed today.
	And we love you, Lord, with all our heart and soul.
	Thank you, Jesus.
	And Heavenly Father, we ask you tonight once again to give us the Holy Spirit to give us divine wisdom and understanding to help magnitude, magnify your word through this platform here.
	And we pray that you could bless these platforms and bless everybody here, myself and Justin.
	And we love you so much and protect us all from the forces of evil.
	And most of all, Father, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
	In your mighty name, we pray.
	Amen and amen.
	Amen.
	All right.
	So, if you want to give an introduction to yourself, Justin, and you got the floor.
	Oh, yeah.
	Name's Justin Brown.
	I kind of got the nickname Doc.
	Been into podcasting now since 2022.
	It was maybe, boy, me back up.
	I'm just a regular nine-to-five factory rat.
	You know, I'm just like anybody else.
	But in 2012, I kind of got exposed to the more fringy side of the Bible.
	Been a Christian, you know, my whole life.
	Was really fascinated with the Bible.
	But I grew up Southern Baptist, so it was the Seth IV with Genesis 6 and, you know, basically just, you know, de-supernaturalized this book.
	And I never really kind of looked into it for myself.
	But in 2012, I started finding people like Trey Smith, Timothy Alberino, Dr. Aaron Judkins, and some of these other guys.
	And they're talking about giants and fallen angels reading with men and all this stuff that I just thought was just lunacy.
	And so I was like, man, I got to be a good Berean.
	I got to look this stuff up and prove these guys wrong because that stuff ain't in there.
	And my mind was blown.
	It was right there hiding in plain sight the whole time.
	It's just I relied on other people's interpretations and teachings.
	You know, I didn't search them out for myself.
	And once I did, man, it just lit a fire under me, Dan.
	And it was a thirst that could not be quenched.
	And I was never an intellectual guy.
	I never liked to read.
	And as you can see, I mean, my bookshelf back there, that's not even half of them, but I'm constantly reading a book and learning, taking notes, and doing all this stuff, man.
	And I just started talking to friends about it.
	And we had like a little small group and we had three meetings.
	And my buddy Steve was like, man, we should start a podcast.
	And I was like, what's a podcast?
	I had no idea what it even was.
	And when he told me, I was like, nuh-uh, I ain't doing that.
	And he rode me pretty hard for a while.
	And then that's basically how the Dig Bible podcast was born.
	And that was just a Bible study, just kind of looking at the weird and strange stuff in the Bible.
	And then after doing that for maybe a year and a half, two years, I was always a big history guy.
	I loved history.
	And I think the comparative mythology and Sasquatch and conspiracy and all that stuff, you know, filters through the biblical lens.
	And I love to look at that stuff.
	So I started the Prometheus lens.
	And that's the show that I do.
	I look at Bigfoot.
	But I look at conspiracy, ancient lost civilizations, all these, you know, fun gambit of topics, but I filter it through a biblical lens.
	Yeah, it's an interesting name, biblical lens, because, yeah, we need to look at things through a biblical lens.
	And you picked the right name for that.
	And it was the same for me, man.
	And I was blown away, man.
	I don't know how many times I read Genesis 1.
	Yeah, when you get to the biblical cosmology, and I'm like, it's right there in my face.
	Read Genesis 6.
	I caught on to that real quick, man.
	And read Genesis 6 and when I started heard about the giants and everything else.
	And I'm like, wow, why ain't the churches teaching us?
	And at the time, the church is like, oh, it's, no, those were just cursed sons of Seth, whatever.
	That's yeah, it's most of it's figuratively or metaphorically.
	I'm like, no, it's not figuratively at all.
	You know what I mean?
	And you look at the history, you could go into the newspapers, the archives up into the 1950s, they started, you know, they stopped covering in the 1950s.
	Archives of these remains being found.
	I mean, it's all the world knows this.
	I mean, Middle East, it's common knowledge in the Middle East of the giants and everything else.
	And it's crazy, man.
	And right, like you said, right in front of us.
	Yeah, hiding in plain sight.
	And one of the things, too, is I get some confusion or some guff sometimes for people for the name of the show because, you know, Prometheus.
	And they're like, don't you know that's a you know a fallen angel or a another name for for Satan?
	And, you know, I've always been guilty of being a little esoteric, you know.
	And when I looked into Prometheus, I thought he was just a fascinating character because he's, if not the only, a very small handful of characters that can be seen in two different lights because it's all about perception.
	If you look at Prometheus in one light, he is the benefactor of man.
	And he gives this great gift to mankind.
	And he's basically crucified for it.
	And so, on one hand, he's kind of a Christ figure.
	But then on the other hand, he's the divine rebel that rebels against God and gives knowledge, forbidden knowledge to mankind, kind of like the book of Enoch describes.
	So it's kind of like one of those perception type things, how you look at him.
	But, you know, the scripture tells us that, you know, my people suffer from a lack of knowledge.
	And the fire is symbolic for the knowledge.
	So, you know, me and my esoteric thinking, I was like, you know, we need to steal back that knowledge.
	You know, we need to steal that fire and use it for good.
	And so I was like, well, if I went with the Prometheus lens, you know, even if it, you know, Prometheus is the Satan figure that says he is the ruler of this world.
	So I'm like, well, if we could take the Prometheus lens or perspective on things, we could better know our enemy and not be fooled.
	Yeah.
	And plus, you know, the fruit that you produce is all good fruit, man.
	And, you know, glorifying Jesus Christ and the word of God and showing his creation and everything else and exposing the enemy.
	That's something the devil would never do.
	You know, so it's good stuff, man.
	And so, yeah, so what inspired you right?
	So is that this actually inspired you to write your book?
	What's called Epic of Esau?
	Honestly, I've told people it was kind of like a caddy joke.
	Trey Smith was one of the guys that I first found and kind of devoured his content.
	And I was actually fortunate enough to have him on the show.
	And I tried my best to put my fangirl hat away and be professional, but I was giddy as a little schoolgirl.
	But we were talking.
	Yeah, he's awesome, man.
	And at the end of the episode, he kind of makes this little off-comment.
	He's like, hey, you guys are from East Tennessee.
	That's Bigfoot country.
	And he said, next time I'm down that way, I'll holler at you guys, and we can go Bigfoot hunting and film it, maybe make a documentary.
	And we were kind of laughing and joking.
	And then honestly, out of nowhere, just Genesis 25:25 just popped into my head.
	You know, for those that's not familiar, that's that's the birth of Esau.
	And it says the first one came out red, covered in hair from head to toe, like a hairy cloak.
	And I'm like, dude, that sounds pretty squatchy to me.
	So then I said to Trey, I said, well, what about Esau, Trey?
	You think maybe he could have been the first Bigfoot?
	It says that he was covered in hair from head to toe.
	And he was like, huh?
	Well, I never really thought of it like that.
	He said, you may be onto something.
	But regardless, he was definitely a hairy dude.
	That's for sure.
	And one thing led to the other.
	It's kind of like, you know, us Christians, we call it the Holy Spirit.
	You know, come the New Age people, they call it the universe, or what's that word they use?
	Synchronicities.
	And the Greeks called it the Muse.
	But that's kind of what happened to me, man.
	It was just like after that happened, I had Gary Wayne on.
	We started going through the Epic of Gilgamesh.
	And I'm like, okay, here's this guy, Inky Doo, covered in hair from head to toe.
	He's another Sasquatch-sounding guy.
	And then a couple of weeks later, I was going through the book of Jasher.
	And that episode me and you did about a year ago, a year and a half ago, we talked about Nimrod fighting Esau to the death for the supernatural garments from the Garden of God.
	And I discovered that in the book of Joshua.
	So all these little things just kept leading me down this road.
	And finally, I was like, man, I have to have some answers.
	So it just honestly started just a two-year obsession for me.
	I think you got video froze.
	You got a bubble in the middle.
	I hate that emoji stuff.
	I wish I knew how to turn it off.
	Hang on a second.
	Oh, there you are.
	Okay.
	Yeah, so it's like interesting stuff.
	And, you know, like when you mentioned too, that you never read whatever.
	And once you started reading the stuff, it's like, and it's addicting, really is because the same thing happened to me.
	I couldn't get enough information.
	I was like, listen to all those guys that you mentioned, and also Tom Horn.
	And what's the other one there?
	All these guys.
	They talk shows and everything else.
	I was just sucking up as much information as possible about the Nephilim.
	You know what I mean?
	And all these guys that, you know, text Mars too, just like write down the list of all these great, wonderful people that expose this stuff.
	And again, you're not going to hear this from the average church out there.
	And they'll might touch a little bit upon some like the deep stuff that's it.
	And they'll leave it at that.
	And, you know, they don't sit there and explain.
	Now, I don't know why they do it.
	Why?
	I know why, because the whole dispensationalist movement, you know, just dumb down, you know, the churches, whatever.
	But this would glorify God even more when you get into the stuff and the supernatural part of the Bible.
	And that's what the churches don't teach.
	Even the, you know, the so-called scholars in the world, right?
	Yeah, they're smart and they know verses by heart, but they don't know the supernatural side of the Bible.
	Man, it's a whole different side of it.
	And when you understand it, it's like, wow, you know, and then you can understand biblical cosmology.
	Then you can understand the giants were actually the children of the fallen angels and they became demons, disembodied spirits, and everything.
	And this is a start that is very critical we should be learning, but the church is not teaching.
	Yeah, I mean, 100%.
	And I tell people, too, it's like, you know, Steve Quayle, Timzy Alberino, and all these other guys.
	Do I believe, you know, in a line with everything they say?
	No.
	Because, I mean, if you find somebody that you agree with 100%, I mean, you found yourself in a cult.
	Yeah.
	And I kind of jokingly tell people, you know, I know how to eat chicken.
	I eat the meat and spit out the bone.
	So I'll read, you know, people's books that are not Christians, that have different, you know, viewpoints than me, because I think everybody has pieces to the puzzle.
	Yeah.
	And I like to gather those puzzle pieces.
	And I think a lot of Christians nowadays, it's like if they hear one thing that they don't agree with or they think this person's got it wrong, they just turn them off.
	And man, you miss out on so much knowledge and wisdom and understanding by shutting down from this one thing, especially when it's not salvational.
	You know, on my show, I mean, I talk to people that have some pretty wild out there ideas.
	I've talked to people of different faiths.
	I've talked to people that used to be in the OTO.
	And some people, that's a turnoff for them.
	You know, it's like, oh, no, I can't hear that.
	I don't agree with that.
	And just, you know, turn it off.
	But it's like, you know, I try to encourage people.
	It's like, hey, learn how to eat chicken.
	You know, you're not going to find somebody that you agree with 100%, but listen to what they got to say because they might have some gold nuggets that you're missing.
	Yeah.
	I agree with that 100%.
	And that's why we do is like research things.
	And you're always going to find something that you don't agree with, whatever.
	But, you know, like, you know, like you said, there's a lot of information out there that you do and need to know.
	And it was like you just say something that you've been pondering on.
	You didn't have that missing piece.
	You found it in this person's book because, you know what I mean?
	They mentioned it, you know, so it could help you out in a long way.
	And plus, we have the power with the Holy Spirit of discernment.
	That's one number one thing, too.
	If you read a book that's not a Christian, even a Christian, Joey, even if I wrote a book, I would suggest people to seek the Holy Spirit first and ask for the power of discernment before reading it.
	Because, you know, I'm not perfect.
	I could get things wrong, too, you know.
	So that's how it is, this journey.
	We have all these thirsts for knowledge and everything.
	And, you know, we're never going to know it all.
	And there's something every time I think, wow, I covered every topic, not even close.
	It's like more stuff comes out of nowhere.
	And like, wow.
	It amazes me every time.
	Oh, yeah.
	I mean, I definitely agree.
	I mean, long as, you know, you got the Holy Spirit and the foundation is good.
	That's what matters.
	I mean, if someone has a theological point or interpretation of something that's non-salvational and you don't agree with, you know, that's still your brother or sister in Christ.
	As long as you have that foundation solid, if it's Christ, Christ alone is your salvation, redemption.
	That's what really matters.
	And Timothy Alberino is like a prime example.
	A lot of people don't agree with a lot of the stuff that he takes and has interpretations on.
	But the conversation that I had with him, he said something, man, that's really stuck with me.
	And I've kind of just held on to that.
	And I tell people, because especially like with my show, I get a lot of people that are not Christians that tune into the show because they like the content and the conversations.
	And so I try to have these conversations that are engaging to people that are not even Christians.
	But while I have their attention, I mean, I try to sprinkle some seeds while I got their attention, you know, kind of point them the way.
	But Tim said one time, he said, he said, I see something going on in this movement.
	He said, people are just fascinated.
	He said, with giants, you know, and fallen angels and the potential of extraterrestrials, you know, being in the Bible, the Ezekiel wheels within wheels.
	And he said, all these, you know, fun, fascinating subjects, he said, that I talk about ad nauseum.
	He said, so I have really no room to talk here.
	He said, but I think that a lot of people are into that because of that and that only.
	He said, and they jump in to the deep end of the pool without learning how to swim, so to speak.
	He said, and what I mean by that, he said, is if you're coming to the faith, he said, you need to learn the story of Christ, the story of your salvation.
	You need to get that firm foundation.
	He said, that's your anchor in the chaotic waters.
	He said, because there's a lot of stuff out there that will lead you astray.
	He said, and deceive you.
	And he said, so you have to have that foundation.
	He said, first things are first.
	He said, if you build this great skyscraper full of Nephilim giants, fallen angels, and the Nakosh, he said, and all this stuff.
	He said, yeah, it's a nice, pretty, tall building.
	He said, but the first storm that comes, you're going to fall.
	He said, you built your house on the sand.
	He said, so he said, I think if we took some of these quote-unquote fascinating subjects off the table, he said, a lot of these people that are so into this movement, he said, wouldn't be interested anymore.
	He said, because they don't have their foundation.
	He said, so I tell anybody, it's coming into this space.
	You know, get your training wheels first.
	Learn the story of Christ.
	He said, once you have that, he said, you can articulate what Christ is, who he is, what he's done for you, and what it means, and can defend your faith.
	He said, then go looking into some of this other, you know, quote-unquote fascinating subjects.
	Absolutely.
	And so now you want to get to some of the long-get school stuff to let people know.
	Yeah.
	Well, with the elongated skulls, that was something that was honestly kind of like one of my first fascinations when I kind of got into this space because giants were the gateway drug for me.
	I was like, oh my gosh, all these fairy tales, you know, are not fairy tales?
	Jack and the beanstalk and FIFO fum, you know.
	And so when I started going down that road, you know, I started finding these elongated skulls.
	And I found people like L.A. Marzuli and Brian Forrester that were talking about this and actually, you know, digging up these bones and studying these things.
	And honestly, I mean, that's the thing that got it all kicked off for me.
	And a lot of people want to point to, you know, say, oh, well, this is just, you know, headbinding.
	Well, yeah, some of them are.
	But I think those people that are the naysayers, they don't ask the right questions.
	Because if someone is headbinding, I mean, this is extremely painful.
	You know, you can imagine the headaches and just the pain of this constant pressure, you know, reshaping your skull.
	So then you have to ask, well, why would they do that?
	And I kind of jokingly tell people it's kind of like Morgan Wallen back 10 years ago or whatever, how many years ago it was.
	He shows up with the mullet.
	He brings back the mullet, man.
	And what happens?
	Well, he's a highly sought-after musician and put in high status of the social life and all that kind of stuff.
	Everybody wanted to emulate him.
	So then, boom, you had the birth of the mullet.
	Every kid and an adult that was able to watch a TV and see his haircut got the mullet.
	And I think that's what this headbinding was.
	They saw these people with great stature, knowledge, and just otherworldly characteristics about them.
	And they wanted to emulate them.
	And that's what they were doing.
	And once people actually started studying these things and looking at them, they found, yeah, some of them were from headbinding, but there's quite a few that are not and that they're proven genetic.
	And L.A. Marzuli is a prime example.
	He went down to Peru a few years ago with a whole team.
	And this was like the all-star biblical frenzy team, guys.
	This was L.A. Marzuli.
	This was Brian Forrester.
	It was Dr. Aaron Judkins.
	It was Dr. Judd Burton.
	Just so many guys.
	Mondo Gonzalez, I think, was with them.
	Just an all-star lineup of people in our space.
	And they went down there and studied these things.
	And they got to hold them.
	They got to make molds of them.
	They brought optometrists and all these other specialists with them.
	They were the first ones to get DNA samples of these things.
	And they proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that there's a large majority of these that are genetic.
	And once I found that, I mean, that was just really awesome and really got me digging in deeper.
	And for anybody that don't have this book, I mean, this is a whopper, guys.
	And it is.
	It's kind of intimidating when you first see it.
	But this is by L.A. Marzuli.
	And he's combined all of his research and study on these Nephilim giants and the elongated skulls throughout his entire life.
	And this is just an awesome book, jam-packed full of information.
	It's got color pictures of everything that he talks about and all of his research throughout the years.
	This is an amazing, amazing resource.
	But it is, it's 60 bucks.
	I mean, he might have a sale going on, but that's what I paid for it.
	But I gladly paid for it and I would pay for it again because of all the information in there.
	And so some of the things I'm going to talk to you guys about and demonstrate how these are genetic come from this book and Brian Forrester's and some other books.
	But a lot of it come from this book right here, guys.
	So I try to give credit where credit is due.
	This man has put in the boots on the ground.
	He's forked over the money, flying back and forth to all these different places and stuff.
	So I definitely want to give credit where credit is due.
	If I could see any farther whatsoever, it's because I stand on the shoulder of giants like L.A. Marzuli and these guys that's put in the work.
	But I actually have a replica of an elongated skull.
	And this is made from a, what do you call it, a molding of one of the Piraca skulls.
	And when I first got it, I went to a conference to meet LA and I was like, I want LA to sign this thing.
	And he was the first person to sign it.
	But I mean, I've acquired a lot of signatures over the years.
	This is my conference buddy.
	I've called him Ed the Head.
	He goes with me everywhere.
	But when I showed it to LA, his jaw dropped.
	And he was like, oh, my God, where did you get this?
	And he's looking at it.
	He's like, this is the same exact one.
	I've held this skull.
	He said, everything is identical, the dimensions, everything.
	And he thought it was from one of the molds that they had taken when they went down there.
	And he was like, where did you get it?
	I was like, you're going to laugh when I tell you.
	I was like, I got it on Etsy.
	He said, oh, my God.
	He's like, but they did a great job.
	He said, if they 3D printed it or whatever they done, he said, but they did a really good job.
	It looks identical.
	Some of the things that he talked about in the book and documented were number one is all human skulls have basically like a peace sign structure or fracture look on the top of the skull.
	So you have a line that comes up and then it branches off in a Y and comes out the back.
	And even all of the skulls that they found that were elongated that were proven to be from headbinding, they all still had that Sadra Sutra line.
	And as you can see, this one doesn't.
	So that was something that really stood out to them.
	They were like, well, even all the ones that we find that we know are from headbinding still have that Sadra Sutra.
	And there's a large handful of these that we are looking at do not.
	So this is different.
	This is not headbinding.
	And then they had an optometrist look at the eye sockets.
	And as you can see, they're a lot larger than a normal human skull.
	Yeah.
	And the optometrist that looked at it, he measured them and done all the stuff.
	And, you know, for those that don't know, an optometrist, that's an eye doctor, a fancy name for an eye doctor.
	But he said that the orbits were 30% larger than a normal human.
	And he said, so he said, with that, we can safely assume, because we don't have the eyeballs, he said, but we can safely assume if the orbits were 30% larger, the pupularies were 30% larger.
	Yeah.
	He said, so that tells us, he says, that these things had night vision, like owls.
	And to me, that was something really profound.
	Because, you know, Dan, how many stories and legends do we have about these giants being cave dwellers?
	Yeah.
	You know, there's all kinds of them.
	You know, the most famous one that pops into my head is the Siti Ka from the Lovelock Caves in Nevada.
	You know, these guys lived in this cave and they were attacking this Indian tribe and they chased them back to their home, which was this cave, and blockaded them in and burned them alive.
	You know, that's the way the story goes.
	If you look at the greys, too, man, like alien grays, they have there's different versions of them, but they have a larger skull.
	Yeah, the eyes are big too.
	So could this be and look at the nose too?
	Like if you notice the nose socket, whatever, it's big on that skull.
	So, I mean, that could also be one of these grays.
	Yeah, I mean, there's too many things that rhyme to ignore, Dan.
	And you're right on that.
	And another thing that they had noticed was right here.
	That is the anchor point where your spinal cord connects to your skull.
	And on this one, if you notice, which me hold it like this so you can see, here's where it rolls back.
	So it's all the way at the very back.
	Well, if you look at a normal human skull, which I wish I had one to show, but you can look it up and Google search it.
	The anchor point on a normal skull is here.
	It's dead center.
	That way the head is balanced.
	So if you had that on this skull where it's so top heavy, it would just be looking at the sky or its feet all the time.
	So this right here shows you that this was genetic and it was built to compensate for this large head.
	That way it could be balanced.
	Yeah, you're right.
	You can see it right here.
	Like, um, the anatomy here, you can see the skull going right in the spine going right in the middle.
	And compared to yours, yeah, you want to show that real quick.
	See, yeah, it's definitely uh, not where a human skull would go.
	You can look at all the things here, and all the elongated skull mummies that they found throughout the world that they have you know proven that it's from headbinding, it doesn't change this anchor point.
	All the anchor points are still there.
	Yep, so once again, you know, this proves that this was genetic, this was built in to the DNA of this hybrid creature, this hybrid race, and that's who the people that were doing the headbinding were emulating.
	And uh, another cool thing I'll show you, and I'll pull out the book for this and show you.
	Um, where's it at 403?
	Yeah, it's uh, fascinating stuff, man.
	Oh, yeah, man, it shows you the genetic transfer.
	I mean, like, you know, when the Bible says all flesh was corrupt, uh, and that was including a lot of the animals and everything else.
	And yeah, we, I truly believe too, uh, what people call the dinosaurs, whatever the kids said, they were, you know, the ancients called them dragons, and they didn't make the cut from the yacht because I don't think they were created by God, and these uh, fallen entities just genetically corrupted everything now.
	This is uh from Brian Forrester's book.
	Uh, it's this is called Elongated Skulls of Peru and Bolivia: The Path of Varicocha.
	And this, let me pull it over here.
	Here is a normal skull, and it's got all these different things pointed out to you, right?
	And the things it talks about that it draws attention to, uh, let me see here is these holes, and it's actually got it in these two.
	Uh, you got a hole, just a little pinpoint hole right here on each side of the cheekbones, and then down here at the mandible, you have one there and one there.
	And if you look on the back, which is kind of faint, but you can see it, there's two indentions right here, kind of where the signatures are.
	See those little indentions?
	Oh, yeah, so these are things that are in a normal human skull, but on this one, there's an extra set.
	And uh, I'll show you here, I'll read this little passage because all these uh not all of them, but the ones that they uh deemed that was genetic have this extra set of holes.
	And so, if you'll allow me, I'll read this little passage to explain what those holes do and how it was genetically built in to compensate for this elongated skull.
	But it says, uh, the human skull normally has three pairs of small holes in the front called the foramen.
	It says the zygomatic official, I'm sorry, that's a big word, uh, foreman is below and to the outside of the eye sockets, and that's the one that I showed you there on the skull.
	And it says the supraorbital is just below the eye sockets, and I showed you that one on the skull, and it says, and the mental foramen is in the mandible or lower jaw, and that replica is missing the lower jaw, so I couldn't show you that.
	But it says, almost all, if not all of the elongated skulls of the paracus area also have a fourth pair called the parental foreman, which is very uncommon in humans, in human skulls.
	And it says, according to the medical definition, an inconsistent foramen in the paretal bone occasionally found in biliteral near the sagittal marginal posterity.
	So basically, when it comes down here, a doctor talked what the purpose of these extra hole was.
	And it says, to infer here is that the paretal foreman are present in the elongated skulls to assist in blood flow due to the non-normal shape of the head and would be an evolutionary development.
	So that's another thing that just shows you that this was built into the DNA and genetic code.
	And this is a hybrid race, you know, with our biblical perspective.
	You know, we have the answer to that in Genesis 6.
	It says that the sons of God came down and bred with the daughters of men.
	And I don't want to hog all the time, Dan, if you got something you want to comment on or got a question.
	Oh, no, I mean, I'm like fascinated over this.
	I'm like learning as I go to, you know, and fascinating stuff.
	And yeah, don't worry about time.
	You got all the time in the world you need, brother.
	And I like to give my guests all the time they need.
	This way they can get the, you know, studies out and everything else.
	And yeah, it's pretty fascinating because I'm looking at skulls as you were talking.
	And yeah, you can tell it's some kind of genetic alteration.
	You know, I know a lot of people say, well, they, you know, tied the head because I've seen history channel things about that.
	They put rope over time to tie the head.
	Same thing with the neck to make necks longer.
	But the thing is, like, you know, you're pointing out the eye sockets and the eyes were, yeah, that rope didn't make your eyes bigger.
	I mean, so like there's some kind of genetic alteration going on.
	And plus, you know, like you said, where the skull meets the spine.
	And I was looking at all the regular skulls, it's right in the middle, not where that one is.
	So there's definitely some kind of genetic alteration.
	Then we get to the point where a lot of these, you know, when the giants of God, the Bible mentions that, when they had six fingers and six toes, and we see these giants a lot of the times from newspapers, New York Times and everything else, when they used to find these things, six fingers on each hand, six toes on each foot, double rows of teeth, sometimes more than that.
	And so you're seeing some kind of genetic alteration, you know, and it's been massively covered up.
	And yes, I would say this is probably one of the biggest cover-ups because if the public was to know this stuff, it would completely undermine.
	And I think it would eradicate the whole evolution theory.
	It really would.
	And, you know, so they don't want that to happen.
	They want you to think you come from a monkey or some rock or something like that along the lines there.
	You were a fish at one point, whatever.
	And yeah, all that garbage.
	Instead of saying, hey, we're creation of God.
	And there was another creation here from the fallen angels.
	They don't want to go down that road.
	So they want you to believe that we came here by chance and blah, blah, blah, the big bang garbage and everything else.
	Well, the stuff pushed by Jesuits, by the way.
	And so just to keep you dumbed down and just hide the, they're doing their part to hide the creator.
	That's what they're doing.
	Oh, yeah.
	And I've talked to a lot of people over the years and they pretty much say the same thing.
	It's like, well, number one, they don't want to prop up and support the Bible and show the Bible that it's true.
	But then at the same time, you have all these scientists that align with this Darwinism theory.
	And they got so much time, money, and textbooks invested into this and egos come into play.
	You know, all these scholars and stuff, and they're all their alphabet soup in front of their names, and they don't want to look stupid.
	So, they've doubled down on this Darwin evolution stuff, and they don't want to soil their name, you know what I mean, or go against the grain because the ones that go against the grain are ostracized and they lose their positions and their tenure.
	And with that, that you know, you lose their retirement packages and your 401ks and all that stuff.
	So, there's two things I think predominantly at play there: it's ego, and then it's also not wanting to affirm that the Bible is true.
	Amen.
	Oh, well, Gabe the Shepherd in the chat room, he wants to know: was the child star skull real child star skull?
	I don't know.
	I'm not familiar with that, yeah.
	Was that like in Peru?
	Star skull.
	Let me look that up real quick.
	Uh, yeah, if you type it in Google, um, I guess they found the skull, the star child skull, they call it.
	That's weird, yeah.
	I haven't heard of that one.
	That's the thing, man.
	It's like so much stuff out there, and it's like and it's hard to digest all the information that's coming in, and especially now with AI and all this kind of stuff, man.
	It's hard, it's hard to decipher what's real and what's not anymore.
	Yeah, and because not a lot of people know about you know, video editing and stuff like that, and that's one thing that kind of gives me a little bit of an advantage and heads up because throughout the years I've done you know a lot of editing and stuff like that and DaVinci Resolve, so I can kind of spot little stuff that most people can't see and be like, oh no, that's photoshopped or that's edited.
	But there's some that even get me have you seen some of those AI news anchors, they'd be like, This is such and such reporting, and they'll have like the ocean in the background and a kraken coming out and stuff.
	I mean, think about your 60 to 80-year-old grandparents and stuff seeing that they're going to believe that.
	Diana Ketterman in the chat, she wants to know if your skull you have doesn't have extra teeth, like normal.
	No, these don't.
	No, it's just got the one set.
	That's pretty, but uh, yeah, another thing I was going to talk to you is about the show, too, because not only do they have you know the scientists and the doctors, you know, giving all their theories on why they think this is genetic, there's actually proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that it's genetic.
	And one of those things is they found a journal from 1842 entitled Peruvian Antiquities.
	And in there, they found a mummy of a woman with an elongated skull, and inside of her womb, still, was an unborn baby with an elongated head.
	And the doctors that examined the thing determined that it was seven months old.
	And they found it.
	And forgive me if I mispronounced this, but it says the cave of Hirake or Hirake.
	And in this journal, there was actual hand drawings, too.
	And here's the drawing of that unborn baby.
	Wow.
	Seven months old.
	That's crazy.
	Yeah, so I mean, they found a mummy with an unborn baby still in the womb, guys, with an elongated head.
	Whoa.
	Yeah, there's no debating that.
	I mean, that's genetic.
	He wasn't even born yet.
	Yeah.
	So it's not that they could, um, not to sound disgusting, but reach up there and tie a rope around the baby's head.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, it's crazy, man.
	And the most famous one out of Peru, and you've probably heard of this one, Dan, but have you heard of Wikey?
	No, let's see.
	I wonder if that one you talk about, though, the seven-month baby.
	I wonder if that's what they're referring to is a star child, because it looks like an awful lot like that.
	You know what I mean?
	Like somebody wrote a book on it, The Star Child Skull.
	So I might be what you're talking about.
	And Skull is not entirely human, is one of the important stories in the world right now.
	Yeah, it's off a story.
	I guess Star Child Chronicles are eight years of scientific testing.
	It would have to, yeah, doesn't show too much information about the book, but yeah, it shows the heads elongated, though.
	It looks like it, yeah.
	Well, that journal entry that they'd found, like I mentioned earlier, that was from 1842.
	And in that journal entry, it even says that the specimens were sent to England for further examination.
	And they disappeared after that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But that wikey, just to show you real quick, here is Wikey.
	They've named this thing Wikey.
	Wikey.
	And this is a full skeleton.
	Wow.
	This ain't just a head.
	It's a full skeleton with the elongated head attached to it.
	And what makes this thing really interesting is this thing was 19.68 inches in height.
	Okay.
	It has the elongated head.
	And the picture I showed you, the soft spot in the head is still open.
	So this, you know, but they said that this wasn't a baby because it had molars.
	This thing has molars.
	And I'll pull the thing back up just to show you again.
	The soft cap is open.
	Yep.
	And look, molars.
	So, and like I said, this thing was less than 20 inches tall.
	And it was not a child.
	It had molars.
	And it said in the report that this wasn't a dwarf either because the bones were not thin and small.
	And also it had the large eye sockets, the 30% larger eye sockets like the others.
	I mean, that's just when I discovered that, man, I was kind of like, just, oh my God.
	Yeah.
	How come this is not mainstream news and everybody doesn't know this?
	Yeah, you think this would be on a Discovery Channel and showing these videos and studies in classrooms, especially in colleges and everything?
	Nope.
	You know, because it does, I mean, it goes against the evolution doctrine.
	That's the problem.
	Yep, that's exactly right.
	And another thing that I learned through Brian Forrester's book was this thing called the Path of Veracocha.
	And for those that's not familiar, Veracocha is a South American god.
	I've done that daggone thumbs up thing again.
	I just got to keep my hands down, brother.
	But they found this, all these legends about Varacocha.
	And another name is Quatsi Kettle, the feathered plumed serpent.
	And in these legends, it says that this pale-skinned, bearded man in long robes showed up one day on a boat, on a serpent boat, on a bed of serpents, it said, with no paddles.
	And when he showed up, he had basically like apostles.
	He had followers.
	And they called them the Varacochan.
	And they were described, like I said, pale-skinned, bearded, elongated heads.
	And when they went through, it said that they basically civilized them.
	Kind of like Genesis 6, you know, all over again, how the book of Enoch tells us.
	That they went and they done great signs and wonders in front of the people.
	They taught them the seven sacred sciences.
	They taught them how to build these megalithic sites and temples and walls and basically developed a following.
	And you can trace the legends.
	He comes in through the south and makes his way north.
	And they call this the path of Varacocha, the towns that him and his followers were documented to have stopped and taught the people and civilized the people and taught them all these different things.
	And what's funny is when you follow that path, there's just all kinds of megalithic architecture.
	So all your big stone walls and all these famous sites in South America are right along this path of Varacocha.
	So it kind of, you know, solidifies the story.
	Like, you know, hey, this ain't a legend because, you know, all this stuff's lining up here.
	But another thing is these elongated skulls tie in with this because all of the elongated skulls that they have found that were proven genetic and even the even the head-binding ones, but basically all your elongated skulls that they're finding in Peru are right along this path of Varacocha.
	And what's crazy is that once he basically traverses across the continent, him and his followers get back on their boat of serpents without paddles and go off into the ocean again, the abyss, you know, the chaos, symbolically.
	But he told them that when he was needed, that he would come back.
	And that's why when the conquistadors showed up, that they just welcomed him with open arms because here was this pale-skinned group of people with beards and they were wearing this shiny metal, probably looked like they were glowing in the sun like gods.
	And it matched their legends.
	And Varacocha supposedly told them that he was going to return.
	So that's what they done.
	They thought that Varracocha had returned.
	And when they started talking to him, you know, the conquistadors just went along with it.
	They were like, hey, we don't have to fight them.
	We don't have to lose any men.
	They're bringing us all this gold and silver.
	Just welcome us into their villages and stuff.
	So they just kind of went along with the ploy.
	And that's the reason why they took over South America like they did.
	But some of these journals from these monks and these congistodors that they found, they even talk about this group of people that they found that was indigenous, but they were taller than the average people and that they had really pale skin.
	And that they started asking the locals, you know, who are these people?
	And without fail, they all said that they were descendants of the Varacochan.
	Yep, another ancient culture story talking about Genesis 6.
	And that's one good thing about the Bible.
	I tell people all the time.
	It's like I could back the Bible up with history.
	You can go look at history and, you know, no matter what these people say, the so-called experts, they can't deny the giants.
	I mean, that's engraved in all ancient cultures.
	Every single one of them.
	And my mother's side is Native American, Wampanoag, right?
	And they go back thousands of years, whatever the case.
	They talked about the same thing.
	The Native tribe, Native American tribes, the Indian tribes talked about these giant figures.
	And then when they held a hand up to say how, it wasn't saying hi, you know, it was to count their fingers.
	They had a fair six-fingered people.
	You know, I mean, these people were abnormal sizes and all kinds of stories with these, you know, the tribe historians.
	And, you know, it's funny too because all the tribe historians, different tribes that didn't even know each other, have the same exact accounts of these things.
	You know what I mean?
	And it seems like Peru, too, though.
	Peru is lots of mysteries coming out of Peru.
	I would love to go explore that country.
	But man, so much stuff comes out, you know, giant animals and things that, you know, abnormal sizes.
	Yeah, I think Peru is fascinating.
	I'm honestly, I've been saving up some money.
	I'd like to go.
	I hope, fingers crossed, I ain't going to put it up because I'll get a thumbs up and freeze out again.
	But I want to go to Peru and see those sites and stuff for myself.
	I wish I had the money.
	I would love to do that.
	Yeah, Lord willing that next summer I'll have enough money saved up and I'll go.
	Yeah, that'd be fascinating, though.
	Yeah, it's funny because South Park, when I used to watch those cartoons, man, they had one coming out of Peru with the giant hamsters and the Peruvian flute bins.
	But yeah, it's like, like I did a lot of study too in Peru and all that.
	They say they find animals and stuff that's like even in the Great Swamp in Africa, animals that are mega sizes, like anacondas, 300 feet long, things like that.
	Even birds look like something like a pterodactyl.
	They always find some kind of new species.
	They said I think a good portion of the Great Swamp is still unexplored right now.
	Yeah, the waters and oceans, man, and the cave systems.
	Those are the things that are just totally unknown.
	And I like how you mentioned, too, the Native Americans.
	I'm a big proponent of comparative mythology.
	I like to look at all the other people's stories and legends and gods and things like that and compare them to all the others throughout the world and see what rhymes.
	And a lot rhymes with the Genesis 6 narrative of the Bible.
	The Native Americans of North America, all of them have legends of what?
	Star people.
	These people that came from the heavens.
	And what did they do?
	They had all this superior knowledge of the stars and performed signs and wonders to them and that they were giants.
	And what did they do?
	They took the women and bred with their women.
	And then what happens?
	You go to South America, like we just talked about.
	You have Varracocha and Quatsikettle, the feathered plume serpent.
	Even in their legends, they say that they're God because they talk about the world in cycles and like that Mayan calendar.
	It's basically, you know, everybody thought 2012 was the end of the world.
	No, that was the end of an age, is what they were trying to say.
	And they think that their legends and lore is that we are in the fifth world right now, the fifth creation.
	That, you know, there's four other times that their God created something on earth, civilization, and then destroyed it and then restarted.
	And in their first legends, they call it the first time it talks about giants.
	That this God made giants along with regular people and that they devoured the inhabitants of the land.
	And they were just, you know, destroyers of his creation.
	And what does he do?
	He brings a flood to wipe them out.
	You know, once again, it goes back to our biblical narrative.
	And then you go to the Greeks.
	They have Zeus and Poseidon and all these gods.
	What do they do?
	They go down and they breed with human women.
	And what do they make?
	They make demigods like Hercules and Perseus.
	I mean, I mean, I could go on all day.
	You go to India.
	It's the same story over and over again.
	So I'm the type of person.
	It's like, if I see the same story, but it's just different names or different caveats to it, there has to be something to that.
	And it scares you.
	It's the Bible.
	It scares the so-called experts.
	It scares them because you see how they react.
	Oh, there's no anecdotal proof or, you know, in scientific research.
	Yeah, there is.
	And the thing is, you know, people misunderstand what science is.
	If you look at the dictionary up, I'm sorry, the definition of science, right?
	It's literally something you could observe and demonstrate.
	Not something some guy comes out of the TV, calls himself an expert.
	We've got to believe in what he says.
	No, it's something that you could personally observe and demonstrate.
	And that's what a scientific thing is.
	And so we could actually observe and demonstrate.
	We could go these places and you could see these bones.
	I mean, you could tons of archives, like I said, if you subscribe to the New York Times, they go, it's one of the oldest newspapers in the country.
	I mean, you've got to pay for subscriptions now, but thousands of newspaper articles right in the Protestant Journal here in Rhode Island.
	They got all the in the 1800s, like about them finding giant bones of massive skulls.
	They say two rows of teeth.
	Some of these things had six fingers.
	These things go up to 20, 30 feet tall.
	Just the bones.
	And so you can only imagine with the flesh on it.
	These things must be massive.
	But they'll laugh at it.
	Oh, there's no scientific proof.
	Well, there is.
	And what is it?
	Oh, man, the Federal Agency that was under scrutiny for the Smithsonian.
	They were confiscating these remains.
	It's the same story all the time.
	Now, when I talked to Ellie Mazzouli, I told him about the incident here in Rhode Island, and I told him how the Rhode Island Historical Society confiscated the evidence.
	And when a FOIA was requested to go examine these things, there happened to be lost or stolen.
	And LA told me, yeah, the Smithsonian's big on that.
	And every historical society, every time the evidence mysteriously gets lost or stolen or destroyed.
	And every cent, no matter where you go in the country, and yeah, they bury this deep.
	You know, they want to cover this up.
	Yep.
	To use LA's term, they obfuscate it.
	Yep.
	I had him on the show a couple times, but one time he was telling the story of when he was exploring Catalina Island off the coast of California and a lot of giant lore and legends and stuff there.
	And just like you'd said, you know, back in the day, there was all kinds of pictures and articles in the newspaper and these magazines and stuff.
	And I can't remember the guy's name, but he's famous in that island.
	He's got a museum dedicated to him and everything.
	Modern archaeologists say that he was a grave robber, basically.
	But he found all kinds of giant bones and elongated heads and stuff like that down there on Catalina Island.
	Like there was a whole civilization of these people there.
	And L.A. went down there to the museum to explore it and stuff.
	And he was given access to the archives, the behind-the-scenes stuff, the stuff that was still in boxes that wasn't available to the public.
	And he said he went through it, you know, like with a fine-tooth comb.
	He said, I pulled open all those boxes and went through them.
	And he found, and you can search this up, it's in on LA's website and in his books and everything.
	It was well documented.
	But he found a picture of this guy, and it's black and white photo.
	And he's like leaning on this shovel.
	And he's standing in front of this hole that him and his crew just dug.
	And there's a couple other people in the shot.
	But when he found it, he got to looking and seeing there was a skeleton, a full skeleton, kind of like in the fetal position laying in that hole.
	Oh, you think I phoned it?
	And you'll see in a second, I think I phoned it.
	Okay.
	And he got to looking at it and was like, okay, well, that's, you know, strange.
	He said, but something just told him to take a picture of it, you know, to document it.
	So he took some pictures of it and he sent it to some people that were, you know, computer whizzes.
	And yeah, that's the photo.
	And he got to look at it.
	He's like, man, that thing looks awful large.
	So he sent it to some people that was real good with computers.
	And they took it and they basically put it like in Photoshop and clipped and cut it and straightened it out to where it was standing up and then placed it next to him.
	And it was like almost nine foot tall.
	So that just kind of blew his mind there.
	So he went to the people once he found all this and had it, had his evidence and went to him and said, Hey, you know, I found this in your archives.
	Look at this picture.
	And I had this, you know, forensic guy stretch him out to full length.
	And it's a giant.
	He's almost nine foot tall.
	And they were like, oh, man, yeah, that's a great find.
	Thanks for telling us, you know, and all this stuff.
	He said, and he went back home.
	He said, a few months later, he goes back.
	He said, he's filming a documentary and he wanted to go back and get access like he had before and film and talk to some people and do some interviews and stuff for his documentary.
	He said, when I walked in, he said, I seen that picture.
	And they had it on the wall.
	He said, blown up huge.
	He said, and I'm like, oh, man.
	He said, I seen that guy leaning on the shovel.
	He said, but as I started walking up, he said, I noticed immediately.
	He said, it's just an empty hole.
	He said, they photoshopped the giant out of the picture and then put it up in the museum.
	I mean, that's just insanity.
	Yeah.
	And he said that he confronted the curator and was like, you know, you guys have photoshopped this image.
	I have the original image, a copy of the original image, and you have photoshopped the giant out.
	And he said that the woman just played dumb.
	You know, she's like, I don't know nothing about anything.
	And he said that come to find out that she was like a recent hire and that the people that were over the museum and the management and stuff at the time he was there were no longer there.
	And when he requested to get back to look at those files and stuff, he was denied access.
	So basically, what he said is those people let me in somewhere that I was not supposed to be in.
	He said, and when I found something and brought it to the attention, he said the cleanup crew came in.
	He said they got rid of the management and the witnesses that knew what happened, got rid of them, expunged all the evidence, and then brought in a new crew that didn't know nothing.
	Wow.
	Unreal men.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And I was going to show you guys this too.
	Dr. Aaron Judkins.
	He was one of the guys, like I said, that went with LA down to Peru.
	And he got calipers and all the different types of measurement tools.
	And all these Proka skulls, he got to measure all of them.
	And that's how we got all the dimensions and stuff.
	So he's one of the few people that's held these things and measured them and documented it.
	And I seen in LA's book that Aaron had a section where he was given his interpretations of the skulls and the sizes and how he had measured everything.
	And then there were hand-drawn images of the skulls with markings beside them and the measurements.
	I mean, it was really detailed.
	So I reached out to Aaron and I asked him, I was like, hey, I've seen those drawings that you had made on the measurements of the skulls.
	Do you happen to still have those?
	And he was like, yeah, I still got them.
	And I was like, man, if you would allow me, I was like, I would absolutely love to have, you know, like a photocopy of those to hang up in my studio.
	He's like, yeah, sure.
	So he sent them to me and I put them in Photoshop and kind of added some little spice to them and stuff.
	But here is the drawings.
	And I just put like a aged-looking paper behind the background.
	I put the Piraca skulls and he had it labeled, you know, number one, number two, or all the different ones.
	And then I put his name at the bottom.
	But I got four of these.
	And this is actually the drawing from this replica.
	Wow.
	So I thought that was pretty cool.
	But I talked to Aaron and got his permission.
	If you guys are going to be, oh, I did it again.
	But if you're going to be at SpiracyCon, I'm going to have 8x10s of all of his drawings like those autographed at my table.
	So if you guys are interested in that kind of stuff, it's going to be printed on 8x10 cardstock.
	So that's a pretty cool piece of fringy history for all my history nerds out there.
	Yeah, some awesome stuff, brother.
	Yeah, I can't wait for the SpiracyCon.
	It's going to be awesome.
	Oh, yeah, I'm excited.
	While the speakers in, yeah, I don't think I'm going to get any sleep.
	I mean, because I'm going to be videotaping everybody and talking to people.
	And I'm doing a lot of, by the way, guys, I'll be there.
	I'm going to be live streaming a lot on this YouTube channel.
	So, we're going to be talking to all kinds of people, and yeah, I want to get all on video.
	Oh, yeah, definitely.
	That's something I love to do when I go to the conferences.
	I'll usually have like a little mini tripod and my camera and stuff, have it sitting at the table because I found a lot of times, uh, you know, of course, if you can get a speaker, an author that's walking around and got free time, sit down, you can do a little interview.
	But I honestly found just the conversations with the people that are there are usually just some of the most amazing conversations.
	And me and Steve and a couple buddies that were doing the conferences, like back during the beginning of the Dig Bible podcast, we would just have these amazing conversations with people.
	And we were like, Man, I wish we had our gear and we could have recorded that.
	That'd be a cool episode on its own, you know, or if we could just record these conversations and put them together, like a like even if it's just 10 to 15-minute little conversation with 15 different people, splice it together for like an episode or something.
	That would be cool.
	So, we just started doing that.
	So, we just started bringing our cameras and stuff.
	And, you know, of course, we asked him, he said, okay.
	And we've got some really cool conversations out of it, man.
	I got this book here, too.
	It's called Giants on Record.
	If you ever want to get a book by Jim Vera and Hugh Newman, and it's just got tons of actual newspaper articles from all over the place showing remains and all that other stuff and all the information.
	And it's got a nice chart here, too.
	This one here.
	Yeah.
	Discoveries of North America.
	That's a really good book.
	Not right here, like right here as a normal human person, like five, six feet right here.
	And look how big these things got.
	And I know people are like, oh, that's ridiculous.
	Well, you could call it ridiculous, but this is reality.
	This is what they people have been finding.
	And real stuff, man.
	And there's a museum out in Europe, I believe, right?
	Has one of these giants in it.
	Yeah.
	And I'm trying to think, and I think it's in that chart.
	What was that Roman ruler?
	I don't know if they call him a king or a Caesar or whatever, but there was a famous Roman ruler that was a giant.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and 18 feet tall in West Hickory, Pennsylvania.
	Lampoach Rancho in California.
	12 feet tall, 10, 9, and yeah, it's crazy stuff.
	And these are actual, you know, you could actually doc, these are all documented.
	So these are the massive giants that were found remains all over the country.
	And that's just North America here.
	And the Middle East, forget it.
	I mean, it's common knowledge over there.
	Everybody knows that.
	And when the, you know, the whole Gulf War started and everything else, and we were going into Iraq and all that stuff, our government was literally bringing continuous back of archaeological evidence and had nothing to do with war, nothing like that.
	Bush, he said he was on a mission from God.
	It wasn't our God of the Bible, that's for sure.
	And so they were bringing back all kinds of archaeological remains of these giants and all that.
	Then you have the Canderhair giant in, was that Pakistan?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and the counter with the military had to shoot one of these things.
	And they brought the remains back here.
	And they try to cover that up real quick.
	And again, the thing is, if they have to answer the public for this, and I'll say it repeatedly all the time, it'll destroy the evolution doctrine.
	And right away, you know, I was debating this guy.
	I forgot his name.
	He's been on the history channel a bunch of times and he invited me to debate him.
	He's a pure evolutionist.
	And we were on some talk show.
	It's me against four people.
	And, you know, I'm okay at this stuff, you know.
	Yeah, that's fair.
	Yeah.
	And I was showing them these.
	Well, I waited.
	I had printed out a bunch of stuff.
	Kent Hoven, I had him on my show.
	So I had a bunch of printouts from him from real newspaper clippings and all that.
	So I waited.
	I used that for my nuclear bomb.
	And so I brought up the bones being found.
	So the guy takes up this little bone, right?
	It was from a megathon, right?
	He goes, well, here's the confusion.
	People find these bones and they confuse them with human giants, but they're actually megathons.
	I'm like, number one, it's like, all right, you just contradicted yourself.
	What do you mean?
	How would a megalithon bone get in the middle of the country?
	You just said earlier that there was no great flood.
	And if it was a megathon bone, how the hell did they get in the middle of Ohioism?
	So that you just contradict yourself.
	And on top of it, that's when I broke out the newspaper articles with the printouts.
	Like, you know what I mean?
	Yeah, these are national publications, New York Times, Boston Herald, Products Journal, newspapers have been around since the 1700s, even the 1600s, right in this country.
	All archiving these for hundreds of years up into the 1900s.
	Mysteriously, in the middle of the 1900s, when Operation Mockingbird went through, they started controlling what the media says and puts out, right?
	Mysteriously, they stopped covering these things.
	Oh, that's not a coincidence, is it?
	You know, and it's right about the same time when the evolution doctrine is being pushed massively, being funded by the Rockefeller Foundation and the National Education Institutes and all that.
	All these globalists funding this doctrination of evolution.
	And all of a sudden, these things started disappearing on newspapers.
	Media was hushed up about it.
	And yeah, all gone, erased.
	Completely.
	Then they want to say, oh, they were just sensationalizing stuff to sell newspapers.
	And what's crazy is that the Kandahar giant story that you had mentioned, there's been archaeological stuff even found to coincide their story.
	If you remember in their story, they talked about this hairy, basically feral giant comes out of this cave and just starts mauling them.
	But they said his weapon, they said he had this long polled spear.
	They said that the pole was like eight foot long and that the blade of the thing was probably, you know, three foot long.
	And that he was basically skewing the guys, that he had like two men impaled on this thing and holding them up in the air.
	Reminds me of the East.
	And that's when.
	The red hair.
	Yeah.
	And that's when they said, you know, aim for the face.
	I ain't for the face.
	And they said they basically just decapitated the thing.
	They put so many bullet holes in it.
	But Chief Joseph Riverwind, he actually just lives like 30 minutes down the road from me.
	And I did an in-person interview with him about a year ago now.
	But we met and he brought a really nice surprise.
	I'll just say that.
	But I had read about in this book of LA Marzuli's, you know, that I've been talking about that Chief Joseph was at a conference with LA, and this guy from Michigan just walks up and's like, hey, I found something that I think's pretty amazing that you guys might want to see.
	And he's like, it's a huge bronze sword.
	He said, it had to be wielded by a giant.
	And they was like, well, yeah, sure, we want to see this thing.
	And they break it out.
	And they're like, oh, my gosh, you know, this thing weighed like 26 pounds and it was just a blade.
	And the blade on it was probably, you know, this long.
	And everybody's kind of just wowing over it.
	And then Chief Joseph comes up and it's like, oh, what do you got there?
	And they're like, oh man, look at this giant blade of this sword that this guy found.
	And they was like, well, where did you find it?
	And he told where he found it up in Michigan.
	But he said, basically, it was just kind of like partially in the ground and partially sticking up.
	And he seen it and walked over and grabbed it.
	And Chief Joseph got to looking at it and he said, I don't think that's a sword.
	He said, I think this is a spearhead.
	And he started telling them, you know, how the Native Americans made these spearheads.
	And it even was tapered at the bottom and kind of flared back out again.
	So you could, you know, stick it into a pole and wrap it and tie it down and anchor it.
	And it kind of matched with their stories of the stone-skinned giants and the Sitika that they had these type of weapons.
	And it matched the whole story with the Kandahar giant.
	That he had this eight-foot-long pole and this three and a half-foot long blade at the end of it and was skewing people and having two or three people on this thing at one time.
	And the guy gave it to Chief Joseph because he was going, I think, on a military deployment or something like that.
	He just gifted it to him.
	And he actually had to, he actually cut into it.
	He said, I hated to.
	He said, but I wanted to get tested.
	So he cut into it and had it tested.
	He read the test results in that interview that I'd done with him.
	And like I said, it's been over a year, so don't quote me on the exact numbers.
	You can go back and watch that episode if you're interested.
	But it was like 98.8% like pure copper.
	And they traced it to that Michigan area or whatever.
	But some kind of base metal they had to mix with it that they traced it back to the Levant.
	So it showed like, you know, whoever made this took like some base metals from their home land and then started finding this copper in Michigan.
	And what's crazy about the Michigan copper is it's the purest copper in the world.
	So you could trace it.
	Like I said, it's like 98.8% pure.
	And it's the only place on earth with that pure copper.
	So it's kind of like a what do you call it, like a logo stamp, you know, a copyright stamp.
	You know where it's from because the numbers that it tests.
	And they find that pure copper like that all over the world.
	So it shows you these guys were traversing and selling back and forth and mining and trading and doing this stuff during the Bronze Age or even before.
	And so it was really cool to read about that thing.
	But when I met with Chief Joseph, he brought that giant lance.
	So I got to hold this thing and look at it, man.
	I mean, it was pretty awesome.
	Wow.
	Now, as you were talking, too, I found some articles.
	A giant seven-foot sword to fight demons in the afterlife.
	There was found in Japan, a giant seven-foot sword.
	And then there's other pictures of like big weapons and stuff that, like axes, and like look at the size of the axes when you see in the second year.
	Two than a human being, you know, just the axe along the handle for it.
	Yep.
	All these ancient weapons.
	But just for decoration, Dan.
	Yep.
	Look at these swords.
	Swords weighing a couple hundred pounds or whatever, yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, there's just too many quote-unquote coincidences.
	You know what I mean?
	And I'm not a coincidence theorist.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's unreal, man.
	And yeah, then people laugh at you.
	And they say, oh, it's the science.
	And it's like, yeah, go do the research.
	It's right there.
	I mean, like, again, people from all over the world know this stuff.
	And it's common knowledge over these countries.
	And, but, yeah, over here, it's like, we're supposed to be more sophisticated.
	And then they sit there and laugh at you.
	And I debate people a lot.
	And they'll sit there and literally laugh at you because in their mind, they're quote-unquote highly educated that, you know, they know better than you.
	And I think, as I told them all the time, it's like you're more indoctrinated.
	That's what you are.
	You're not educated.
	You're indoctrinated because the stuff is like common knowledge all over the world.
	So now, you know what I mean?
	And when you show them stuff like this, they try to dismiss it, but they can't.
	You know, it's, oh, it's just for decoration.
	Oh, yeah, we got to put the sword in the tomb with the body's bigger than the sword.
	You know what I mean?
	That doesn't make sense.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's like they pay, you know, sometimes hundreds of thousands of dollars to have their opinions given to them.
	Yeah.
	They don't form their own.
	They just, you know, take the opinions and beliefs of the teacher and just run with it.
	And like I said in the beginning of the show, I mean, I was guilty of that, you know, going growing up in church and hearing my pastors preach all these sermons and give their viewpoint on the biblical history and stuff.
	And I just took it and ran with it.
	I was like, oh, well, I mean, they're trustworthy.
	You know, they know what's going on.
	And once I got to reading for myself and seeing for myself, I was like, no, they don't got it figured out, man.
	They got it wrong on a lot of stuff.
	So you asked me what transferring a little bit to the epic of Esau.
	I'm sorry.
	So like, because I'll go right along with it.
	And we talked about this Kenha giant.
	It's a giant, a red-haired giant.
	And it sounds like to me, man, it just like matches Genesis 25, 25.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's what I was about to say is, you know, the book that I wrote, it just dovetails into this stuff that I've been talking about tonight.
	Because, yeah, you had the red-haired giant from Kandahar, all the Native American stories that, you know, they were red-haired or blonde-haired giants, you know, six fingers, six toes.
	And what was just wild is when I got to just deep diving on this guy named Esau, you know, if you just go by the description, and like you said, when I bring this up, some people scoff and laugh, but remove the verbiage, you know, put whatever verbiage you want attached to it, or actually just strip all the verbiage away.
	Just read it for what it says.
	Yeah.
	It says, he come out red, covered in hair from head to toe, like a hairy cloak.
	With our modern vernacular, if you saw someone fitting that bill, I guarantee you without hesitation that you guys would say, I seen a Sasquatch or I seen a Bigfoot.
	That's just the modern term that we've kind of coined it.
	But just like vampire, witches, all these terms, Hollywood has taken them and sensationalized them so much that when you hear them, you disconnect from reality.
	You're like, oh, that's just Hollywood.
	That's just fairy tale.
	That stuff ain't real.
	No, all this stuff is real, guys.
	It's just people have taken it and distorted it and blew it up so crazy and it's not what it originally was.
	And now it's just fantasy in your mind.
	But no, it's based on truth.
	You just have to, you know, eat the meat and spit out the bones and go digging and find the stuff.
	And so when I started writing this book or researching this book, the genealogies and bloodlines kind of just blew me away.
	Because, you know, just like the swords, you know, oh, that's decoration, you know, or that's this or that.
	When I bring this up, some people that are, you know, not believers in my theory or just think that I'm just crazy, they'll say, ah, man, he wasn't really that hairy.
	That's hyperbole or that's poetic language, Justin.
	You know, they're just trying to say that he was a wild man, a man of the field.
	Well, then what do you do with the deception of the blessing and birthright of Jacob?
	Because when you go to that story, it says that Rebekah tells Jacob to go and kill a kid of the goats and bring the meat back, and she would prepare a delicious meal for her father, and that they would pretend to be Esau and steal the blessing.
	And Jacob, what's the first thing he says?
	But no, mother, I'm a smooth man.
	Okay, I mean, that's a pretty telltale sign there that this wasn't hyperbole or this wasn't poetic language.
	There's a distinct difference between these two.
	And he says, what if my father finds that I'm playing a trick and a curse falls upon me instead of a blessing?
	And she says, if there is a curse, let the curse fall upon me.
	And it says that they take the fur of the goat and wrap it around him like a blanket to fool their blind father.
	So this wasn't hyperbole.
	This wasn't poetic language.
	This guy was literally that hairy.
	And for those that maybe caught our episode that we did together about a year ago, I talked about the story in Jasher where him and Nimrod fight to the death and he kills Nimrod and he steals the supernatural garments from the garden of God.
	And according to Jewish legend, this was the coverings given to Adam and this was the birthright.
	This is what they were talking about.
	That was the birthright.
	It was the symbol of kingship and priesthood.
	And they trace it.
	It went from Adam to Enoch to Methuselah and that Noah had it.
	But how Nimrod wound up with it was he, in his rebellion, when he uncovered his father's nakedness and was kicked out of the family, that he stole the garments.
	And they wound up with Nimrod.
	But it says in that story that before he comes in and trades his birthright for a bowl of soup, that he took those garments and hid them in his tent.
	And so it ties into this stealing of the blessing here.
	Because once they wrap him in this goat's fur, it says that Rebekah goes to Esau's tent and takes his quote-unquote special garment.
	And he deceives the father and gets the birthright.
	And this is when, in my opinion, Esau goes into full rebellion.
	It says that he takes three wives.
	And two of them were Canaanites, who was a cursed lineage.
	And God's people was told specifically not to take wives from the Canaanites because they were a cursed lineage and bloodline.
	But he takes two of them.
	And they were known Horite and Hivite clans.
	And thanks to people like Gary Wayne and them just going so thoroughly through the genealogies, that we find out that these Horites and Hibites that he took as his wives were known giant clans and that quite possibly we don't know, but quite possibly these were giantesses.
	And so you have this hairy quote-unquote man Esau, marrying into Nephilim giant clans and breeding with them.
	So in the very least, you can safely assume that there would be some really strange pups thrown from from that union.
	Yeah, and then his third wife.
	He goes to his uncle Ishmael, and for those that don't know, Ishmael was also just like Esau.
	He was the firstborn son that was, quote unquote screwed out of his birthright by Isaac.
	So when Esau was screwed out of his birthright, he went to someone that would sympathize with him, someone that went through exactly what he was going through.
	So you can imagine the hatred and just uh, I mean that's just the only word for it just the hatred that was sown from that union.
	And when you go and trace the genealogies, all of your Islamic nations, your Palestinian nations, all your people, groups basically, that want to annihilate God's people, stem from this union.
	And what's even more crazy is when you dig into those giantesses that he married.
	In the book of Genesis it tells you their names, and even one of the father-in-laws that his name was Sierra and he reigned from Mount Sierra.
	Well, when you dig into the Hebrew etymology of that word, that word means hairy.
	So here you have these hairy giants breeding with this other hairy sasquatch sounding man, and so basically what you have is the creation of a feral giant race who, in my opinion, got termed as a Bigfoot or a Sasquatch today.
	And when you go through the, the genealogies of that from this union, and you trace it on down, here's where Amalek comes from.
	He comes from this line and he burst the tribe that is after his own name, the Amalekites, and the Hebrew etymology of that word or name.
	It means the blood, Blood liquors.
	I mean, whoa.
	And so when you go and look at those guys, the Amalekites were the people and tribe that were the first ones that encountered God's people in their wilderness wanderings after the Exodus from Egypt.
	And it said that they attacked them and done all these things.
	They end up even going to war with them ultimately.
	But what I found fascinating, and I talk about it in the book, was during this wilderness wanderings, that's when you get all your do not do this, do not do that, you know, all your laws and stuff.
	Well, you don't get a rule, law, or regulation unless someone is breaking those said rules, laws, or regulations.
	So I talked about in the book, I said, it's my opinion from reading the texts and knowing this tribe and the context surrounding this event that a lot of these rules were put in place to keep God's people from imitating things they were seeing from this tribe that the Bible tells us that they encountered first.
	And when you look at those, I think it's telling of the people because it says, for instance, do not seek necromancers or sorcerers.
	It tells you, do not pass your children through the fire.
	It says, do not drink the blood.
	The life force is in the blood.
	And no longer will you sacrifice to hairy goat demons.
	The book of Isaiah talks about, you know, when you go into the Greek Septuagint, anyways, it says the wild men, the satyrs, will dance in the wilderness and in the desolate cities.
	I think it's talking about these Amalekites, these hairy pharaoh giants that stemmed from Esau breeding with these giant clans.
	And these rules, laws, regulations were the practices of these people.
	They were passing their children through the fire.
	They were drinking the blood.
	Their name means the blood liquors.
	And it says, no longer will you sacrifice to hairy goat demons.
	And just all these things, man.
	I mean, everything just lines up just too perfectly in my eyes.
	And when you go into some of the extra biblical books, like the medieval rabbi Rashi, he done a commentary on the Targums.
	And for those that don't know, the Targums was the very first translation from the original language.
	It predates the Greek.
	And in there, he talks about these Amalekites.
	And he says that they were a known sorcery clan.
	And he even uses the word shapeshifter.
	He said they were known sorcerers and they were shapeshifters.
	And he said, this is why only this group of people that God said kill every man, woman, child, and animal because they were known sorcerers and shapeshifters.
	And you told them not to take nothing either, no food or nothing, right?
	Yeah, that they were known to shape-shift into animals to evade capture.
	That gets in the subject, too, werewolves and vampire things like that.
	Remember William Schnoblin told me that about the werewolfism, like when they transfer, you feel every bone in your body break and it starts restructuring and turns into an animal.
	And that's crazy stuff, man.
	And, you know, that's all people say, oh, it's all sci-fi.
	This stuff was around long before sci-fi.
	And, you know, sci-fi has nothing on reality, man.
	I tell you.
	And yeah, it's like all the flesh.
	And then this is after the flood now.
	You know what I mean?
	Because you only imagine if there was no flood, I think we all wouldn't even be here, to tell you the truth.
	But this was all after the flood, because the Bible says there were giants before and after the flood.
	So this genetic mutation and everything else.
	And God knows what's out there now, you know.
	And people think, oh, we live in a civilized society.
	Do we really?
	How civilized do you really think it is?
	We can't even put up a building without proper maintenance and things are going to fall apart in 10 years.
	But yep, these ancient structures, thousands of years, and they're still standing strong.
	Still, earthquakes, hurricanes, and all that.
	But yeah, we put up these modern skyscrapers.
	Yeah, they fall apart in years.
	And how advanced are we, really?
	It's like we completely know thousands of years of human history.
	But yeah, let's listen to these people called scientists who think they know better than God, who think they know better than the ancient cultures actually lived here to experience these things.
	It's so dumb, it really is.
	And they call themselves educated and sophisticated and advanced.
	Yeah, right.
	Not even close.
	And one thing I found really cool was you can kind of trace the migration of this group as they go north and then even to the Americas.
	And one that I'll touch on that I found just particularly fascinating was the island of Sardinia.
	Now, this is in the Mediterranean.
	But when you go there, they have some really interesting practices, legends and lores and megalithic architecture.
	Okay, so we know that these giants and stuff stemmed eventually to and or from the Phoenicians.
	And they were known sailors.
	They mastered the seas and they were traitors.
	And the whole bull imagery.
	Well, they have all kinds of giant legends over there.
	And the giant tombs, these megalithic tombs, when you take a drone or get an aerial view and look down, they're in the shape of a bull's head.
	So you have this bull with horns, and this is the burial chamber of the giants.
	And then you have all those just megalithic stone structures that you were just talking about earlier that we couldn't build today.
	And part of their customs is during the winter solstice.
	And they say when they ask them, where does this come from?
	Or how long have you been doing this practice?
	They can't even tell you.
	It's archaic.
	It goes back so far they don't even know why they do it.
	But they have guesses and ideas what they think it is.
	Oh, it scares away evil spirits or it's scaring away the winter cold to bring back the sun and spring.
	But what they do during this event is the men take black goat's fur and they cover themselves from head to toe with it and they carve wooden masks and they put on their face and they put hundreds of copper bells on their backs and they dance through the street ringing these bells.
	You know, the wild men, the satyrs, will dance in the wilderness in desolate cities, as Isaiah tells us: no longer will you sacrifice to hairy goat demons.
	And during this parade that they do, they chase the women and they abduct the women.
	Of course, this is modern time, so you know, it's probably PG, but they do they chase the women and try to abduct them.
	And during this time, too, the children that are coming of age as like a birthright, uh, you know, approved approving of their bravery to go into manhood or womanhood, they light huge bonfires, and the children have to pass through the fire.
	All this echoes back to this group that I just talked about, man.
	I mean, it there's once again, there's too many coincidences for them not to be connected, yeah.
	Uh, she's just showing the Bulgarian uh ritual scare away evil spirits.
	They're wearing looks like goat skin and wooden maskers and all that.
	And it's unreal, yeah.
	It's uh, and you see all these people out there, like um, these cultures and all that have these uh customs they're using evil practices to try to scare away something evil.
	You know, it doesn't work that way, you know.
	And uh, it's unfortunate, and they bring it here too.
	I did a show uh last week, I think was it was called um, even Christians do these things, superstitions and these rituals that they have no idea that they're doing, you know.
	Now, they're like they'll put a boot in the ceiling, and you call yourself a Christian, but you're putting a boot in the ceiling to ward off evil spirits.
	Uh, you know, doing these like dumb superstitions and these cultures, yeah.
	Some of these people claim to be Christians too, but yet they're dancing with uh blood on them or something like that to keep Jesus keeps away evil spirits, the Holy Spirit keeps away evil spirits, you know.
	But yeah, it's unfortunate, you know, and that's where Jesus says, you know, not to follow traditions of men, you know, follow him, you know, not traditions, and which stem you know, stems into their religions and all this other stuff they have, and uh, so that's why they're supposed to follow Jesus Christ and all that.
	So, you want to take some uh phone calls, though?
	Oh, actually, um, it was Texas Haas asked me to ask you about um, the giant the giants found on video in Mexican Cave what your thoughts on that was uh once again, that's something I'm not familiar with.
	I'm one of these guys that I'm so like entrenched in the history, yeah, and stuff like that.
	I'm always that's kind of my rabbit hole.
	So, it's like the current news and stuff like that.
	I'm kind of uh off in the woods on that.
	I'm in the dark.
	Then it was that one video, the guy who was filming the mountain, and you could see a giant walking across the top.
	Oh, I remember that on TikTok or something, yeah.
	And like you said, now it's like all this AI stuff, man.
	Like, you can't even determine what's real or not.
	Yeah, yeah, it's crazy, but you know, it's like, but you know, the truth will come out, like the Bible says.
	Um, you know, Jesus says, things that are gonna come up out of the earth are gonna make men's hearts fail them.
	Yeah, well, even Isaiah even talks about the giants coming back, yep, but you have to go to the Greek, you know, it says, Giants are coming to fulfill my wrath, open the gates.
	And now, Marsha Horn Han, I mean, asked, How did Esau come by his characteristics?
	That's one of those things, man, that it doesn't come right out and say, It's just you kind of just got to speculate and see what you think you know matches up.
	Yeah, but one thing that I found Particularly interesting is when you go into the Epic of Gilgamesh, and I talk about how I think that those are the same stories, it's just distorted and told from different cultural perspectives.
	So, the Babylonians, they're going to tell it to where their guy wins, and he's the hero.
	So, when you read the Epic of Gilgamesh, they have this epic battle, but Nimrod or Gilgamesh wins, and the two become best friends and go on this epic journey together.
	Where the book of Jasher says that Esau wins.
	So, but when you go into that story, it talks about Inkidu, and it says that he was made in the image of Sam Quain.
	And Sam Quain was a fertility god, and he was covered in hair.
	And so, you have all these stories and mythos throughout the world of these satyrs-you know, Pan, Sylvanus, just all these different fertility gods.
	And the men, they're all covered in hair from head to toe.
	Yep, so uh, you can speculate, you know, was there some Nephilimic blood maybe in Rebecca, and it kind of just threw up as an anomaly?
	Uh, did uh, was there a second incursion type thing that happened there?
	Uh, was it a spiritual thing where uh it talks about she was getting older in age and she was barren?
	Yeah, in this ancient time, you know, that was uh the number one thing for a woman.
	And when you even go to Sarah, that she was put in the same position, and she was so frightened that she gave her handmaiden Hagar to breed with Abraham to give him a an heir and a seed.
	So, uh, Rebecca came from a pagan home, and it says, you know, when Eleazar went to acquire Rebecca, that when he told the father, you know, what his intentions were and that their people served the God Yahweh.
	You know, I thought it was interesting that he said, This Yahweh you speak of, I can neither speak good nor evil.
	So, it showed you he didn't know who Yahweh was, they wasn't serving Yahweh, they were serving other gods.
	So, and that Sam Quain, that fertility god, was from this region because this is where that story of the Epic of Gilgamesh came from.
	And here we have this guy comes out looking like a fertility god covered in hair from head to toe.
	I found that interesting.
	You know, it's uh funny too because um, you got the skeptics out there all the time.
	How do you know your gods, the real one?
	There's thousands of gods.
	So, well, yeah, actually, you could easily tell that.
	So, I tell people easily, you say, How do you know thousands of gods?
	And how do you know yours is the right one?
	Well, if you take all these gods, most of these people are just the same people, different names from different cultures, calling them about the same so-called gods.
	Then you go down and do more history, you find out they're either Nephilim or Gibberines or fallen angels.
	Then, when you narrow it down, there's only one God, you know, and then that debunks the whole-I mean, that just derails that whole conversation altogether.
	Oh, and uh, Rebecca Irstone, um, the cards you were talking about, the 8x10s you're going to be selling at the SpiritCon.
	She wants to know, is it possible to get one?
	She's not going to be able to attend, I guess.
	So, uh, is there possible for her to order one of those?
	Uh, I don't have like a store or anything set up, but I mean, if she like you'll reach out to me, uh, uh, I sell like my books and stuff, I sell autograph copies like through my PayPal and stuff.
	People just send me some money through PayPal and their address, and I send them like a signed book.
	I could do something like that too.
	What's your email?
	Oh, your contacts were put in the yeah, it's on the website, the PrometheusLensPodcast.com.
	Oh, okay.
	Let me send that.
	Yeah, I can't remember the address off the top of my head, but I have like a contact thing on there.
	Just click it and type in, and it sends like a little message to me or whatever.
	So I just sent that to her.
	Good stuff, man.
	So, you want to take some phone calls though?
	Yeah, sure.
	If you, um, you got a little one while, I mean, I don't know if you're tired or not.
	Oh, yeah, I'm good.
	All right, cool.
	So, let's open it up.
	I had my old man nap today.
	I knew this was coming.
	Old man naps are good, especially lifting.
	I mean, they got a lot of rest lifting the heavyweights, man.
	Man, the heat that's killing me, it's been like 100 degrees for the past three weeks down here in Tennessee.
	And I work in plastics, and I do extrusion of plastics and stuff.
	So, it's like our machines were running them at you know, 600 degrees.
	And if it's 100 degrees outside, and you're in a little 10 building with machines running 600 degrees, we've got a fresh colour.
	Hey, call you on the 912.
	What's your name?
	Oh, it's brother.
	No, just add one little question and then a comment, and then I'll hang up.
	What do you call that?
	Uh, skull binding-is that what it's called?
	Headboarding, say again, headboarding, headboarding.
	Well, I just want to encourage everyone not to practice that, it'll just leave you narrow-minded later, guys.
	Later, later, and what's cool, too.
	I forgot to mention is him bringing that up reminded me.
	There's actually commandments in our Bible against headbinding, so it shows you that they were actually doing it back then.
	Oh, wow!
	It's in Leviticus chapter 19, verse 27.
	Uh, and I actually wrote that down, I forgot it.
	Uh, and this was out of LA's book, too.
	Uh, is it 1927?
	Uh, yes, let me get that up here.
	That's uh, yeah, and he broke down kind of like the Hebrew words and stuff because you kind of got to go through the Hebrew to find it.
	Yeah, but it says, ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard, ye shall not make any cuttings on your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you.
	I am the Lord.
	So, when you go down, it says the Hebrew word translated, ye shall not round, is low, and that's Strong's 3808, and is uh nakaf, and that's also Strong's 5362.
	Uh, it talks about uh this nakath, which means to surround or to encircle, and it goes on, it says that uh the Hebrew word nakaf, this is a different one, it's spelled slightly different.
	I think it's with an I instead of an eight, but that nakath uh is Strong's 5364, which means a rope that encircles.
	So, LA put those words in to that translation to give you a fuller picture.
	And it says, Ye shall not round the corners of your heads.
	Uh, and so it could be translated as ye shall not surround or encircle the extremities of your head, so yeah, just don't put anything on your head like that.
	Yeah, makes sense, yeah.
	And uh, it was they had all those customs back then, too, and like then, you know, um, you know, the genetic change and everything was going around, and yeah, God knows like what species are out there of animals and all that that God did not create, you know, that's the other one, too.
	Species, and yeah, it could be their cave dwellers.
	There's been some people said there's a race of people that live under the ground and the earth.
	And which makes sense, too, because the Bible says that when they'll make any engraving images, anything that's in the earth or under the earth.
	So that could be insects.
	That could be another species of genetic people, whatever the case, you know.
	And you find out about these cave explorers go missing all the time.
	They had a movie on that, too.
	Yeah, that was creepy.
	Yeah.
	They were pale-skinned and their eyes shine and stuff.
	Yep.
	And you flash a light at them and they're like, ah.
	And that even kind of rhymes with the stuff we were talking about today.
	The huge eye sockets and having night vision being cave dwellers.
	651 Yoania, what's your name?
	Rebecca.
	Hey, Rebecca.
	Hey.
	I just had a quick question.
	Sure.
	Oh, about, well, because right underneath that, under verse 28, it says something about marking of the skin.
	Are they talking about tattoos?
	Yeah, well, it could have very well been.
	Yeah, do not make any cuttings in your flesh, nor print any marks upon you.
	So I mean, there's a tattoo shop near me, actually, that has like this verse right on the building.
	It's called Sin on Skin, and they have Leviticus, you know, the Russia in 1928.
	Yeah.
	Blatantly.
	Which, I mean, everybody's different, but I mean, like me, in my opinion, as you can see, I mean, I'm covered in them.
	I used to jokingly say, well, if my body's my temple, I want to decorate the walls.
	But when you read that, I mean, that's old Levitical law.
	You know, and thanks to, you know, in my opinion, you know, when Christ came, you know, we are no longer under that law.
	It's good moral teaching, and it doesn't give you a pass to just do as thou wilt.
	You know, there's extremes on both sides of the case.
	I'm really not turning needles, so I'm not totally worried about it for myself.
	I was just kind of curious because, you know, I've got a kiddo who's starting to, you know, come of age where she's thinking of getting a tattoo.
	And I thought, you know what?
	That might be something to kind of mention to her before she goes and gets something really stupid.
	I don't know.
	A little selfish reasoning there.
	But anyway, I was just curious either way.
	Sorry about that.
	Oh, no problem.
	Thank you.
	Great show tonight, guys.
	Are you the one that asked about the 8x10s, Stu?
	Yeah, yep, yep.
	And I'll hit him up on his channel a little bit later.
	Thank you so much.
	Okay.
	Thank you, Rebecca.
	God bless you.
	God bless you guys.
	Does anybody else want to call in?
	512-547-1776 in Texas Haas.
	How are you doing, brother?
	I'm right.
	How's it going?
	Oh, pretty good.
	I know your guest there.
	He studied some Bigfoot and Nephilim and stuff like that.
	You know, Wayne, what was his name that David Nimhan?
	Wayne something.
	Gary Wayne.
	Gary Wayne, that's right.
	His Genesis 6 novel and stuff.
	You know, what was concluded in there was they were trying to decide if Nephilim survived the flood or if somehow they were re-ingenerated.
	That's why they come up with Rephreom.
	Yeah.
	But I was thinking some of those original Nephilim, because there's like 120 years that Noah priest, hey, this is coming, this is coming.
	And not all Nephilim were the same.
	Some of them actually had thinking brains.
	And I can't help but wonder if they didn't go down to the underworld and just stay and waited that whole thing out.
	Because, you know, There's a lot of different civilizations under the earth still to this day.
	I'm pretty convinced of that.
	Yeah, because the Bible says the Nephilim.
	And I think part of it is those Nephilim spirits, you know, that were disembodied, somehow they're able to put them back into, because again, not all Bigfoots are the same.
	Some are highly intelligent.
	Some of them are, I don't know, maybe dumb as dirt, but they possess certain skills, you know, especially telepathic.
	So I was wondering if Mr. What's his name here, Scott?
	Nope, Justin Brown.
	Justin, I'm sorry about that, Justin, if you heard that.
	If he's looked back into that, because he's done so much of the history part of it.
	And then the other thing, I heard the previous caller about the tattoos.
	I don't have any.
	I've always taught not to get them, but something you should be aware of: I have studied the ink that tattoo pawlers use, get it from certain manufacturers, and those certain manufacturers practice spirit cooking where they're putting the demons in the ink.
	It gets in you, brother.
	So you got tattoos.
	You're not lost.
	You're still alive.
	But maybe y'all think about that.
	What those tattoos really could have meant.
	Because I know it doesn't mean anything to, you know, a person that has them run out front, but maybe you didn't know the whole history of where that stuff comes from.
	And that spirit cooking is real.
	They attach to inks, potions, silver, all kinds of stuff.
	Anyways, I'm curious about what your thoughts are.
	Could the Nephilim have gone under the ground before the flood and they're reoccurring now?
	That's it.
	Yeah, no, well, the Bible says they were Nephilim before the flood and afterwards, also.
	So, and I believe that that's very well possible.
	I really do.
	Yeah, I'm the same because, you know, like you said, it said they were there before and after.
	And I've had some people try to tell me, you know, well, no, Nephilim survived the flood because if they did, that shows that God failed.
	And I'm like, no, God doesn't fail.
	So therefore, if we believe what scripture says they were there before and after, then his intention was not to wipe them out, but it was more to level the playing field.
	Because it said that, you know, Noah was the only righteous man left.
	And that word righteous, you know, you got to go to the Hebrew.
	It says to Mim.
	And that word Tamim is the same word used in the sacrificial system to describe the purity of the blood sacrifice.
	So if he was the only pure line back to Adam left, and he was just surrounded by Nephilim or Nephilim-corrupted people, it was just a matter of time before that bloodline was strangled out.
	And that would, and they had to protect that bloodline for the coming Messiah.
	Sacrificial system.
	So, yeah, God doesn't fail.
	Bloodline, too, is the seed of the serpent, too.
	You know, because we know from Genesis 3, this was the first prophecy made about the coming of the Messiah and the coming of the Antichrist.
	And he talked about both seeds.
	You know what I mean?
	The seed of the serpent and the seed of Adam, right?
	And when God told Noah that he was perfect in his generations, not that he was perfect from sin or anything, but his genetic code, everything about him was 100% all the way back from Adam and stuff.
	And so that serpent sea bloodline would be definitely Nephilim integrated.
	I mean, fallen angel, Nephilim integrated.
	Yeah, so that's why the royal families who believe that this bloodline, they intermarry with each other, which we believe the Antichrist comes from one of those bloodlines.
	The dragon force, as Nicholas DeVer describes it.
	Yep.
	Because I'm sure the fallen angels are very active in cultivating any Nephilim blood that they got a hold of.
	And with their genetic, you know, knowledge, how to manipulate genetics and human.
	That's why you see, you know, a lot of people go missing in the state parks and stuff.
	And it's, you know, kind of like believed that maybe they're taking captives and stuff.
	But it's for the blood.
	It's for the genetic engineering to get the Nephilim blood back into the human race to get them into the populace.
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	And I talk about it in my book, too, that I'm this type of person.
	I don't think things are just so straight.
	Like, you know, this is how it is.
	You know, a lot of people say, you know, this is how it is.
	And I'm that middle road guy.
	You know, it's not this or it's not that.
	It's usually a combination of the two.
	Usually things are not that cut and dry.
	So I even talk about the book.
	Do I think that there is a remnant that survived in the cave systems?
	Yeah, because I mean, you have the Kandahar giant story.
	But at the same time, you have all the, as Tony Merkel likes to call it, the woo surrounded some of these big foot encounters.
	You know, the mind speak, the infrasound, the phasing in out of reality, UFO, all this different kind of supernatural phenomena associated with it.
	So when I do talk like this, sometimes people say, well, no, you're wrong because it's a spiritual thing.
	It's not fleshly because all this woo that's attached to it.
	And I'm like, well, hold up now.
	Well, if I'm saying that I believe these Sasquatches were hairy giants, feral giants, Nephilimic giants, and like you had mentioned, when they die, their bodies are dispirits are disembodied.
	And it says the book Enoch says they're cursed to wander the earth and torment mankind.
	So would it be out of the question to say that some of this that they're seeing is the Nephilimic spirits choosing a familiar form?
	Nephilimic giants.
	Yeah, very much possible.
	Well, thank you for the call, brother.
	Okay.
	God bless you, man.
	God bless you too, man.
	Good questions, yeah.
	So two missed calls.
	My buddy Daniel, the radio guy.
	So let's call Daniel up here.
	So guys, when you call, just call once and I'll get you know my call ID and I'll call you back in turn.
	Hey, what's up, brother?
	Hello, my good sir.
	How are you?
	What's going on, Mr. Florida, man?
	You're lucky.
	We got our issues down here, too, but you know what?
	It's always nice out.
	Yeah.
	So you got Nephilim?
	How you doing?
	Pretty good?
	Good.
	Yeah, we do.
	We got a lot of Nephilims running around down here.
	They're called politicians.
	Yeah.
	They're called land grabbers, you know, big developers that like to take Florida land and Just build these massive, you know, the villages and all this other crap.
	And, you know, it's basically the same thing that's going on up north.
	You know, you get a lot of people that take farmland and whatnot, and they make a sweet deal to some of these folks that own a lot of land that, you know, by right, they probably don't have the kind of income to hold on to their land or whatever.
	And, you know, these big developers come along, give them a sweet deal they can't really refuse.
	And, you know, they start building up these massive places.
	And, you know, sooner or later, you're not going to have any land for these Sasquatches running around.
	So, but, no, man, it's going good down here.
	You know, it's not smooth, but overall, I wouldn't change it for the world.
	So, well, it's going good.
	A lot's going on in the last few weeks.
	There's a lot of Nephilims running around.
	It's not really my area of expertise, but I mean, if you're looking at politically, it's been an absolute mess.
	This country is in a real dark, dark hole, darker than ever before.
	And, you know, it's just, you know, I don't know what to believe as far as aliens and Nephilims and Bigfoots and all that stuff.
	You know, I think for the most part, and I'm not an expert of what it says in the Bible as far as about them, that's all you two.
	That's not me.
	But, you know, I think we get distracted by looking at a lot of the evils.
	And I think you guys would agree.
	Just keep on believing in Christ.
	Well, not just believing in Christ, but keep talking to him.
	Keep that relationship with him.
	And a lot of these evils won't distract you as much.
	As far as tattoos, I mean, listen, I got a few tattoos.
	Matter of fact, I was kind of wanting more, but y'all telling me it's evil.
	No, I don't know.
	But no, I mean, I think, you know, tattoos doesn't make a person evil.
	Atic tattoos, you know, you got a few, you and I both know a lot of people that have them.
	I mean, I think if somebody has a lot of the demonic stuff, the crazy stuff that they got, you know, a lot of that evil-looking stuff, obviously, if they have the upside-handed crosses and all these stars and all this other stuff, I mean, you and I have both seen them.
	Yeah, I'd probably say that's on the demonic side.
	But at the same time, I think, I don't know, I think a lot of people, they, you know, this society gets caught up in if they throw stones in glass houses.
	Okay.
	You know, there's a lot of people that probably criticize those that you probably shouldn't criticize.
	They're not seeing cast the first stone.
	You don't really practice much, you know, of what you're preaching.
	So, and like, that's what I said.
	I think we get too carried away by looking at stuff we can't control and evils and everything.
	We let it get to us.
	Sometimes we invite it, you know.
	And that's the lessons that you have to learn.
	So, I don't know.
	I apologize.
	You know, I call in, just wanted to see how you're doing.
	And I kind of totally forgot what day it was.
	I saw something that you were on yesterday.
	I think it was a premiere or something.
	So my days are all messed up.
	So I apologize for missing half the show.
	But I don't know, man.
	I hope everything's going good up there.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	Thanks for watching as a kid.
	Oh, pretty good.
	Yeah.
	Very good.
	Yeah, I miss you guys up there.
	Oh, thank you.
	But you have to come down here.
	I don't know.
	Yeah.
	You got to tread lightly.
	If you come down here, I can't guarantee you'll want to go back.
	Yeah, that's that.
	Yeah, I know that.
	3-3-7.
	I was just saying.
	Oh, hold on, second, Daniel.
	Hey, guys, so the people calling, just, I know you keep calling back.
	I got your number in turn, so I got the numbers listed here.
	So, like, don't keep calling back.
	I'll call you back in turn.
	So, because it just interrupts the caller on the phone.
	So, there we go.
	One, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
	Well, seven more people.
	So, this 857 number.
	Yeah.
	No, I'll jump off here.
	I just want to call in, get somebody else on.
	And from what I've heard for the last few minutes, you know, good show as always, sir.
	I know, and you put in a hell of a lot of good work.
	And, you know, just keep hanging in there.
	And I'll talk to you soon.
	Yeah, love you, brother.
	God bless you, man.
	All right, bud.
	God bless everybody.
	I'll talk to you soon.
	Take care.
	Later.
	All right, guys.
	So one second.
	Oh, yeah.
	By the way, guys, if you like the broadcast tonight and you want to support Operation, we do got a donation page in the chat room and also in the description that helps pay the rent and the studio and all that good stuff.
	So thank you guys so much.
	And so let me get to the next caller.
	So we got radio guy Craig Gabe, 337 number, 857 number, then Sister Max.
	So guys, I'm not trying to rush people.
	Just be reasonable with the time, please.
	So radio guy coming up, Nick's.
	And again, if you call, just get it tonight, just I'll call you back.
	This way it doesn't jamming up.
	Hey, what's up, radio guy?
	How are you, Dan?
	Oh, pretty good.
	You guys got a really good show tonight.
	I love stuff like this, man.
	Oh, thank you.
	Oh, yeah.
	It really helps you understand why the flood was and what things are going on in this world today.
	I know that there's a lot of questions, but you know, the late Rob Skiba, I've got several of his books on like Archon Invasion, Babylon Rising, another one on Genesis.
	And he goes over the book of Enoch, Jubilees, and the book of Jasher.
	I think what happened, this is just kind of my speculation.
	I think the same with Rob Skeba, and I think it's very well plausible that they managed to make it through the flood through the marriage, the brides of the sons of Noah.
	Because it was kind of a, to my understanding, I don't know, I mean, I may not be correct on this, but it was kind of a last-minute thing because all the flesh was corrupt.
	But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord, so his sons married, got with these wives, and off they went.
	So I think there was a discrepancy there in that bloodline.
	That's what I think, too.
	And there's another possibility that some of the Nephilim were aquatic.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah, because the Greek mythology knows that they talk about the mythologies and all that, which I call it history.
	It's not mythology.
	They have creatures, people that actually could breathe on the water.
	That's where the Aquaman comes in and all that stuff.
	And which I truly 100% believe that this stuff was real.
	Yeah, I think, like I said, I'm reading another book right now by this guy who really talks about all this stuff.
	Like what they call the guy's name is Ryan Peterson.
	Yeah.
	He's a pretty good author on this stuff.
	And he talks about the mythology, what everybody thinks is mythology, was actually facts.
	Yep.
	Anyway, there's another good book that I haven't really looked into much, but by Richard Deehurst, you guys talked about earlier.
	It's the book, the title is called The Ycient Giants Who Ruled America: The Missing Skeletons and the Great Smithsonian Cover-Up.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, it's full of news articles.
	It's awesome.
	Another book I've got is about all the Ohio's flooded with a lot of giant stuff.
	I mean, it's just amazing.
	And it's just the Smithsonian comes along, covers it up because they want to cover up that narrative.
	The evolution.
	But yeah, I won't stay long.
	I just want to call and say hi.
	I haven't called in a couple, two, three weeks.
	I know everybody's been busy and not taking calls.
	But one of the things I don't have any tattoos myself, but it seems like there's a lot of people that are concerned about it.
	I don't agree with getting that tattoo, but I do know this.
	The Bible's very clear.
	If any man be in Jesus Christ, he is a new creation.
	Old things are passed away.
	Behold, all things are new.
	So if anybody is listening and has tattoos or I wouldn't worry about it.
	I would focus on who you are in Christ and understand the freedom we have, not to continue in sin, but because of his grace that we have, he helps us through to keep from sinning, you know.
	Yep.
	But thanks be to God we have Jesus Christ for when we do and if we sin, he's faithful and just if we confess our sins.
	So that's the awesome promise.
	Amen with that, brother.
	I know.
	So what do you think about all these, you know, they've declared war against America through the quote-unquote natural disasters.
	Oh, yeah, weather weapons.
	I truly believe that.
	Oh, I know.
	It's disgusting what's going on.
	I never dreamed in a thousand years we'd be living through this stuff.
	And we're just getting hammered on all kinds of levels.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Between the alphabet soup, you know, just it's God help us, man.
	We're in the last days, man.
	I mean, last, last days.
	That's for sure.
	I just, it baffles me what's going on right now.
	Yeah, man.
	Anyway, with that being said, I pray that I want to pray this real quick prayer.
	If it's the book of Ephesians, it's for all the listeners.
	The book of Ephesians, chapter 1, verse 17 through 20.
	That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give all the listeners, including you, Dan, and the guy that's with you.
	What's his name?
	It's not Scott, is it?
	No, Justin.
	Justin.
	Somebody else said Scott.
	I just listened to that and thought I heard Scott.
	Sorry, Scott.
	I mean, Justin, he'll be not mad at me.
	Anyway, getting back on the word, that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you and all the listeners the spirit of wisdom and revelation and the knowledge of Jesus Christ.
	The eyes of our understanding would be enlightened, that we may know what is the hope of his calling and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints and what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us word who believe according to the working of his mighty power, which he wrought in Jesus Christ when he raised him from the dead and set him at his own right hand in heavenly places.
	Amen.
	Amen.
	Thanks for the call, brother.
	So, yeah, there's nothing like praying the word of God because it does not return void.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So, with that being said, Lord bless you guys.
	Lord bless you.
	You too, brother.
	May the Lord cause his face to shine upon you and be gracious unto you.
	May the Lord lift up his countenance upon you and give you peace.
	And you know the last part of that, that's in Numbers.
	I believe it's 6:24.
	But you know that last part where it says that when the Lord lifts his countenance upon you, you know what that means?
	That means it's like a father picks up a child that's willing to do anything to make his baby laugh and smile.
	You ever picked up a child and just made all kinds of funny faces and noises and did weird things just to make the baby laugh?
	Yep.
	That's how our Heavenly Father is towards us.
	He is so in love with us.
	He sings over us songs of salvation.
	He wants to lift us up and just do anything it takes to make us laugh and sing praises and just give him honor and glory in this life.
	How awesome is God Almighty?
	He's really awesome.
	Our God is an awesome.
	The earth is filled with his glory.
	Amen to that.
	Hallelujah.
	I mean, how can you not say, hallelujah?
	Hallelujah.
	Radio guy, I'm out.
	Later, brother.
	God bless.
	Okay, and next is Brother Craig.
	Let's call him back.
	So again, if you guys call just against tonight, just don't call back.
	I'll call you back in terms.
	Hey, Brother Craig, what's up, brother?
	You got any questions for Justin?
	Yeah.
	yeah i was going to try to make it just one simple question uh there was a uh there was a gentleman that uh that i saw one time uh that i watched it said that the descendants of esau settled what is now modern day germany
	And I just wanted to ask your guest, Justin, if he thought that it maybe not all, but it's some of the descendants of Esau settled what is now known as Germany.
	When I looked at it, you know, the biblical text says that they settled in the land of Edom.
	And then there's that story I was talking about earlier.
	They ended up, his descendants ended up going into the wilderness, you know, the Sinai Peninsula area around Mount Sierra.
	But honestly, it's one of those things, like I traced their migration northward, and they made it, you know, to Sardinia.
	We see evidence of their people being there and their customs.
	And then you even go up even further north into Europe, Caucasus Mountains area.
	You have Krampus, you know, this Harry Goatman story.
	Honestly, it's one of those things that you could probably just deep dive forever and ever and never really probably get like a clear-cut answer, you know what I mean?
	But I think it's possible.
	It's very possible because I think that ultimately they just kind of sprung out through there up to the north as far north as Russia even, and then sailed out toward the west of the Americas.
	I mean, we see little hints and sprinkles of their culture throughout the world, honestly.
	Okay.
	Yeah, that's the only question I had.
	And thank you for taking my call.
	Anytime, brother.
	God bless you, my friend.
	Yeah, God bless you all.
	Take care.
	And Brother Gabe, we got coming up.
	It's called Brother Gabek.
	Then we got 337-857.
	Sister Max and Brother Bill.
	Hey, what's up, brother?
	Hey, what's going on, Brother Dan?
	How you doing?
	Pretty good.
	You got any questions for our brother Justin here?
	Yes, sir, Justin.
	How you doing, brother?
	Great work tonight.
	Really love your presentation there.
	You were talking about the mummy that they found that was pregnant with an elongated baby inside of her.
	When did this happen?
	Or where can I find some information on that?
	Yeah, it's a journal entry from a doctor slash explorer of Peru, but it was 1842, and the journal was entitled Peruvian Antiquities.
	So if you use the Google search, you know, Peruvian Antiquities 1842, you should be able to find it.
	And that cave that they found it in, I really can't pronounce this stuff too well, so I'll spell it for you.
	But where they found it, it was called the Cave of, and it's H-U-I-C-H-A-Y.
	And did they find like a lot of them there or just the one mummy?
	I've not actually read the whole journal, but the excerpts that I read from LA's book, in that journal, they were talking about many elongated skulls that they found, even children.
	And then they went into the example.
	They said it went even further, even into fetuses.
	And they described this one scenario here.
	Right, right.
	So like, because like I've seen before in the past, like, you know, they say that a tribe, I can't remember the tribe's name, that they were putting the bands around the skull to, you know, to make their kids have elongated skulls.
	So they were doing that, right, to look like people who, you know, who we still don't really know what it is right now, whom we're trying to study right now, the skulls.
	And the skull you have right there that you were showing on the screen is that like what I'm trying to say, I guess, because I did see the holes in the front of it.
	But like, is there any differences that you can tell from, let's say, an elongated skull of what they thought was a God and an elongated skull of a person who just put some bands around his head?
	Yeah, and I talked about that earlier when I showed the skulls.
	It's like the ones they find from headbinding, there's usually indentions or flat spots, some kind of deformity where they press that.
	And then also the ones that are from headbinding, they still have their Sadra Sutra line.
	A lot of the ones they find that they have determined that is genetic, the Sadra Sutra is gone.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	Have they ever found any elongated skulls like anywhere else besides Peru?
	Because mostly I've always heard from Peru.
	Yeah, Peru is the most famous, but I mean, they're found worldwide.
	One of the largest ones they found was actually in Iraq.
	But they found these in North America.
	They found them in South America, Europe, the Levant, and even they've even found some in China.
	Oh, wow.
	Wow.
	Peru gets all the attention.
	Have they ever found or have you ever even heard of like an elongated crystal skull?
	You know, like the actuality, but I know the Indiana Jones movie, they had some of those elongated crystals.
	Actually, let me show you.
	I got a miniature.
	Yeah, it was Indiana Jones.
	I was actually going to bring that up earlier, too.
	I missed crystal skulls.
	Oh, really?
	Well, I've seen the skulls on that movie, on that one old movie, but I didn't think they were elongated.
	I thought they were just normal skulls.
	I'll show that again, Justin.
	Yeah, that's what they look like.
	This was modeled after the movie.
	But they're going to the back instead of up, like the Coneheads movie.
	Awesome.
	Awesome.
	Well, like I said, Jason, that's great.
	I mean, this is, I love it.
	You know, this kind of stuff is awesome.
	You're doing a great job, sir.
	And I appreciate everything.
	May God bless you.
	And before I go, Dan, I was wondering if I could say a prayer real quick.
	Absolutely.
	Let me go ahead and pray for Dan, his show, everybody in the chat.
	You know, Jason, I wanted to send a special prayer out there for Tim, Mr. Tim Morrison, so that he can get better and find the answers that he's looking for for Himalaya Max and for her son to get better and for Tiki Foster for his situation to get better there also.
	So here we go.
	This is a prayer for a spiritual canopy.
	Dear Lord Jesus, please forgive us for all the times we have not submitted to your will in our lives.
	Please forgive us for all the sinful actions, making agreements with the enemy and for believing the devil's lies.
	We now submit to you as our Lord, dear Jesus.
	Now we break every agreement that we have made with the enemy.
	Lord Jesus, please help your wearing angels remove and bind to the abyss all demons and their devices that had access to me because we believe their lies.
	Now, we now ask you to establish a hedge of protection around me, over me, and under me, and seal it with your blood, Lord Jesus Christ.
	We now choose to put on the full armor of God and ask you to cleanse us and seal us, body, mind, soul, and spirit, with your blood, Lord Jesus Christ.
	Please have your wearing angels bind up and remove all demons and their devices and all their power from within this protective hedge and have them sent to the abyss.
	Please have your warriors destroy all demonic coder witchcraft assignments directed against us, including all backups and replacements.
	Please have your warriors remove all trafficking people and send them back to their own bodies and seal them there with your blood, Lord Jesus Christ.
	Please have your angels stand guard over us and protect us from all the attacks of the enemy.
	Woo!
	Thank you, Lord.
	Thank you, Jesus.
	Amen.
	Amen.
	Thank you, brothers.
	I love you all.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, have a good night.
	God bless you.
	And now, Gabe, I'm sending you the link in the chat.
	Hey, Gabe, I'm sending you the link in the when you go back in the chat.
	I'll send you the link to the skulls, the baby skull phone.
	The pregnant one, yeah.
	Yeah, I want to check that one.
	I never seen that one.
	Thank you, brother.
	You're welcome.
	Thank you, Jason.
	Keep up the hard work, Jason.
	Justin.
	Thank you, man.
	God bless you.
	So there's the link there, Gabe.
	And who's next?
	So 337, get a few more here.
	337 number.
	So we have 337-857, System Action, Brother Bill.
	Hi, this is Daniel Arnie.
	What's your name?
	Hey, Jan.
	My name's Philip.
	Hey, what's up, Philip?
	Not much.
	I just wanted to thank you.
	I appreciate all the work you do to get the truth out and read the Bible the way it's supposed to be read.
	Oh, thank you.
	Thank you for your appearances on all the other shows with David and John and everyone else.
	I look forward to seeing you at SpiracyCon, and I don't want to take up too much of your time.
	Thank you.
	Well, thank you for the calling and encouragement, man.
	God bless you, man.
	God bless you, man.
	And see you in a month.
	Yes, sir.
	Goodbye.
	So, 337-857.
	Yeah, thank you so much.
	It's going to be pretty fun, man.
	Are you going to get any sleep over there, Justin?
	At the SpiritCon?
	No, I love these conferences, man.
	I tell people all the time: if you've never been to one, do yourself a favor and go because it's isolating enough in this world to be a Christian, but to be a conspiracy Christian and talk about and study the things that we study, it's very isolating.
	So it's great to get in fellowship with like-minded believers, man.
	And you can talk about the things that you're into.
	You know, like scripture says, no one knows dying heart's own joy.
	So when you find someone that shares those passions with you, man, it just ignites you.
	Absolutely.
	And so it's 857 number.
	Call you next.
	and Sister Max and Brother Bill.
	They probably fell asleep.
	He didn't have his old man map.
	No.
	I'm sorry.
	No old man map yet.
	So, Sister Max, let's call you up.
	Where are you here?
	There you are.
	Yeah, thanks for the prayer, brother Gabe.
	That was awesome.
	You learn.
	Hey, Sister Max, what's up?
	What are they doing, Tennyshu?
	What's up?
	What's up?
	Oh, my gosh.
	Gabe.
	Thanks, homie, man.
	I saw that coming at the end, that whole woo.
	I was like, man, that spirit going.
	That spirit going.
	Amen.
	You should go to bed.
	Anyway, this has been a long time coming reunion, and I appreciate y'all getting together.
	I had this whole novella in my head.
	I'm like, it's going to happen again one day.
	And it did.
	And y'all did great.
	Hopefully, you get to go with the spiracy card, and that'll be awesome.
	I'm really trying to.
	Okay, y'all.
	So, y'all, y'all.
	My bad, y'all.
	Sorry.
	I just wanted to call it.
	Appreciate the good show.
	Thank you.
	I don't know.
	Was Gabe calling Justin Jason?
	Like, we got Justin's editor, his name is Jason, but you know, they can stick a switch here and there.
	They'll be all right.
	Somebody else called him Scott, too.
	Yeah.
	Jason is our Chuck Norris.
	Okay, y'all, y'all in the chat.
	If y'all seen, because I've seen some of y'all on Marfugo, right?
	If you look at Justin's face right quick, he looks like the Rambo version of Marfugo.
	And Justin, Scott!
	What?
	No, don't stop.
	The big mean.
	And he's, no, and he's not.
	Have you seen what a sumo restaurant look like?
	No.
	Both of you, especially you.
	All right.
	I'm going to get these kids to bed.
	I love y'all.
	Y'all take it easy.
	And I'll be praying for everyone to have a good night.
	Gosh grace, you're so mean.
	I'm sorry.
	Justin, you look good, man.
	You look good.
	She doesn't know what she's saying.
	Thank you.
	I died a little inside.
	Thank you, South Babes.
	All right, y'all later.
	God bless.
	Okay, and Brother Bill, I think he's still at the gas station, but he works at the gas station in Boston, Massachusetts.
	So I'm calling you, Bill.
	I'll probably do it for the phone calls tonight.
	Brother Dan.
	Hey, what's up, brother?
	So you got any questions for our brother Justin?
	Or Scott, or what else are you?
	Jason.
	Jason, Marty McFlyer.
	Give me one second.
	Yep.
	So, yeah, Brother Bill's working right now.
	He's at the gas station.
	That's funny.
	Hey, Lucy calls us at work, huh?
	It's pretty cool.
	Yeah.
	I went up to see him last, yeah, about a year from in August.
	Me and my brother took a trip up to Massachusetts, which is not too far from here, but went to stop and see our brother Bill at work.
	It's pretty fun.
	So, yeah, Spot.
	I'm at the little gas station up by Spa Pond right now.
	I was in the big one across from Stopping Shop when you visited.
	Oh, I was there the other day.
	I worked a shift over there the other day.
	That big one's the one where I was doing the overnights for 20 years.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	Been the most stable job since I got out of the 82nd Airborne.
	Yeah.
	They kept trying to work where most jobs with technology companies and stuff.
	But yeah, that's whatever.
	Yeah.
	Well, see, I have one question for John Jacob Jingleheimer-Schmidt.
	Justin, how big is 3,000 L's?
	Oh, Lord.
	I have no clue.
	I've heard people say that's like a 10-story building or Godzilla.
	Well, we all got to remember, too, though, because today's universal metric stands like for a qubit example, right?
	Because this is where the scoffers go after Noah's ark.
	Oh, yeah, X amount of cubits, but you've got to remember, right?
	Today it's one and a half foot for a qubit.
	That's the universal metric stands.
	Back then, it wasn't.
	It was from your elbow to your fingertips.
	So if Noah was a big man and his cubit could probably be two feet.
	You know what I mean?
	We don't know, you know?
	So it depends on how big the person was.
	Like years ago, like we would measure 12 feet, right?
	And I would take 12 steps and the other person take 12 steps.
	So I have a size of 13.
	And if a guy had a size 10, my 12 feet is going to be a lot longer than his, you know what I'm saying?
	So back then, the metrics and they were completely different from they are today.
	So we don't even know what L was.
	The physical properties of the earth, the physical properties of the earth were different with those David Carrico Visual Disturbance.
	Brian Reese was talking about that with them.
	The vapor candidate, the flying saucers, the vapor canopies, like the rings of Saturn or something.
	Yeah, he was talking about the geoengineering to make things like that.
	Again, the spray spray make you cray cray.
	Well, yeah.
	But that's the thing if you look at like the pre-flood world, it was just Garden of Eden style atmosphere.
	You know, if you go into the fossil record, you know, we have eagles today.
	We have turtles today.
	If you go back and look at the fossils of the pre-flood eagle, it's the exact same as the eagle we have today, but it's just 10 times larger.
	And the same thing with the turtle.
	You know, you have turtles, the biggest cars.
	So it's like in the pre-fauna, the vegetation, all that stuff we find in the pre-flood fossil record is the same as we have today for the most part.
	And the ones that are the same, they're just a lot larger.
	So, I mean, everything was just bigger, batter, stronger back then, I believe.
	Like he said, it's because that water canopy.
	It was a pressurized system.
	The oxygen levels were a lot higher.
	So everything was just more rich in nutrient and bigger.
	And that explains the long lifespans.
	All that stuff, man.
	Yeah, like the old alien movie, the new ones with Prometheus, the engineers from the aliens.
	Give me a second.
	We'll talk to Moville.
	Oh, yeah.
	3,000 L's today is 11,250 feet.
	But I got it could be a lot different from back then.
	I mean, eventually over time, like I think it was probably across the 1800s somewhere over there.
	They all got together and said, all right, let's all agree what a foot is.
	We're going to make it 12 inches, and we'll agree on that what a foot is, you know what I mean?
	So versus my foot against Justin's foot or against Bill's foot, you know.
	So that all makes sense, and that's how you get these Bible scarfers out there because they'll sit there and ridicule about the yacht, about the certain qubits or whatever the case.
	But again, we've got to remember, cubits weren't measured one and a half feet back then, you know what I mean?
	So imagine a guy of a great stature, man.
	You know what I mean?
	Like Andre the Giant's cubit.
	That's probably what, four feet?
	We don't know.
	You know what I mean?
	So Yeah, the yacht would have been like a lot bigger than what we think it is.
	So it's uh that's that's sorry.
	I didn't mean to cut you off, Justin.
	Would you say it's sort of like those monoliths they build, like the Bunker Hill Memorial or something?
	Yep.
	Or did they try to say that was supposed to be what's his name, Schlong there after they chopped him up?
	Oh, Nimrod, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, he was Hillary Clinton's emails.
	I learned more about the Bunker Hill Memorial.
	I probably already mentioned this.
	Going on a field trip in elementary school, and I thought it was a castle that the Revolutionary War minute men were saying, don't fire until you see the whites of their eyes.
	And somewhere up there, there was a hole where they peeked out of or something.
	But no, it's just a giant, a gigantic shrug sticking up into the sky.
	What was that awesome Powell movie?
	I seen the spaceship.
	It looks like a giant hot dog.
	Anybody want a hot dog?
	Wayne, pay attention.
	Awesome.
	Jumpin'.
	What do you see there?
	Yeah.
	Sir.
	That military guy was funny.
	It's a long, smooth shaft, and then it switched to the umpire.
	Two balls.
	Yeah, I watched too many movies, man.
	Yeah, so.
	Yeah, that movie was gross.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Well, yeah, thanks for the quote, brother.
	Probably going to end up closing up here tonight.
	Oh, yeah, I was going to sing the Lorca St. Patrick, but I don't think I'll have enough time to because it gets too busy.
	Customers are walking around.
	I'll sing like that rhyme.
	Huh?
	I arrive today through mighty street invocation of the trivia through beliefs in the thrones, through confession of the oneness towards the creator.
	Salvation is of the Lord.
	Salvation is of the Lord.
	Salvation is of Christ.
	May thy salvation, oh Lord, be ever with us.
	Amen.
	I'll stop right there.
	That's a great one, though.
	The whole thing of the Lorica, the breathplay of St. Patrick, it's a great little prayer.
	Yeah.
	It's just a nice one.
	It's very thorough.
	Yeah.
	Cool.
	But I'll let you, Dan, you and Justin take over what's coming up next.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	And thanks for moderating and promoting it and everything.
	I appreciate your brother.
	I try to help.
	God bless you.
	God bless you.
	I'm on.
	I'm on.
	Good night.
	Good night.
	That's funny.
	He calls it work.
	People walk in singing.
	The singing gas station man.
	Yeah, imagine getting your Coke out of the freezer and hearing the guy behind the counter breakout and song.
	All right, guys.
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	It says 5.6,000.
	So let's see if it went up a little bit more.
	So let's get that up to 5.61.
	So you're getting a couple hundred.
	That's awesome.
	Oh, nice.
	Thank you, guys.
	So let's get that up.
	I got 8,000 plus, so I want his up at 8,000 plus.
	So everybody that's watching this now or later and also on David's channel, we'll put the links in the description as well.
	So let's get him up there, man, because his podcast needs to be, you know, a lot more.
	Then he's got the big, I'm sorry, the Dig Bible podcast and his website, PrometheusLensPodcast.com, which has the links to all that too.
	So, and again, one more time, don't forget about spiracycon.com.
	We're all going to be speaking there.
	And yeah, it's awesome stuff.
	And hopefully, you're going to see a lot of these guys and ladies on the show here before then.
	So I'm trying to interview you.
	Are you dressing up, Dan?
	I don't know.
	I was thinking about that.
	Yeah, guys that don't know, they're offering a free ticket for the best dressed cosplay costume.
	I have a Doc Brown costume.
	I'm trying to tell Joshua Watts from what's leather.com, which, by the way, guys, go visit him if you want anything custom leather, wattsleather.com, W-A-T-T-Sleather.com.
	I told Josh Watts that he's got, he needs to dress up as Sasquatch.
	All he has to do is take off his shirt, then run around and play share people.
	I love Josh.
	He's awesome, man.
	All right, guys.
	So anything you want to promote before we get going?
	No, man.
	I guess if you like some of the Esau stuff and giant stuff that we were talking about, here's my book, The Epic of Esau, Birthright, and Seed War.
	You can find it on Amazon.
	I think it's $10 for the digital and $20 for the physical copy.
	And on my website, if you want a signed copy, I got the information for like my PayPal, BMO, and all that kind of stuff.
	But as long as you're in the United States, $25, I will get you a signed copy with some stickers and bookmarks and other little extra goodies, too.
	That's awesome.
	Wish I could write a book.
	I got things in my head, but I wish I could just sit down and write a book someday.
	That'd be awesome.
	But yeah, I appreciate it.
	If this big dumb redneck can do it, you can do it, Dan.
	Amen, brother.
	Hang on a second.
	Let me just close out.
	So, guys, thank you all for tuning in.
	So, don't forget truthradioshow.com.
	Just in case you ever see me go off here, like my Facebook page, I got a new one now.
	It's called Dan Bionic Badanti.
	I'm creating these group pages to try to separate the show from the wrestling to the weightlifting.
	That's why you see it all over YouTube and everything.
	So, anyway, guys, for myself and Justin, thank you so much.
	And we very much appreciate you guys.

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