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	Okay, welcome to Spiritual Warfare Friday.
	I'm your host, Dan Badondi, and we're joined by Jim Morgante and John Pounders.
	You all know these guys.
	And so tonight's a debate.
	It's going to be a nice, friendly debate.
	Two good people here.
	And so the big debate today is: are the Nephilim really sons of the Fallen Angels?
	As you know, my view on that and John Pounders' view on that, and Mr. Morganti here, he's got a different view on that.
	So I was going to have a little friendly debate tonight.
	Have a little fun, and everybody in the chat room, please participate if you want.
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	Here we go.
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	So, before we get going, I just want to, you know, yeah, a little introduction for us.
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	I'm sorry, a little unorganized right now.
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	So, let's begin here and let's do some introductions.
	So, first, Jim Morgan, you want to give you an introduction?
	Hey, guys, yeah, my name is Jim.
	I just a living man, and I have a full way, my opinion, on how to abide by our Constitution and decode the text of the Bible, and how and this isn't the five-minute intro, is it?
	It's just the hello part.
	Yeah, just like who you are, whatever.
	Okay, yeah, Jim.
	I'm Italian, I play guitar, and I just do my best at discombobulating the Bible.
	The end, and then I'll just get into it.
	I have, I had to like type notes down for this thing or for the intro.
	So, oh, no problem, man.
	Living man, and uh, John Pounders, uh, Dick, you don't need an introduction, but if you want, go for it because everybody here knows who you are, too.
	Yeah, what's up, man?
	Thank you for having me on.
	And obviously, if you don't know who I am, that's fine.
	I, there's like billions of people on this earth, and a very small segment do, but I'm just John Pounders.
	I'm also just a normal man, and I'm just out here spreading what I believe to be the truth and the light that I've received.
	And I'm thankful to be able to do it, man.
	I, you know, I've come from a life of disrepair, I thought, and then now to this, to what I've come to through just, I believe, the light of God.
	So, I'm thankful to be able to share it.
	This is one of the subjects I'm passionate about, so I'm thankful.
	Absolutely.
	And don't forget, John, we are what?
	We're now say it again one more time, Dan.
	Say it one more time.
	Now, live, live, live.
	My bad, man.
	I didn't catch the Q.
	I didn't catch the Q.
	So there we go.
	My bad.
	Sorry, guys.
	I'm going to do here.
	I'm going to read off Genesis first, Genesis chapter, not the whole chapter, but 1 through 14.
	And I'll play a short video because it's going to pertain to this whole entire debate today.
	So this is what the Bible says: Genesis chapter 6.
	Open it up if you're on audio edition.
	We use a King James Version.
	So it came to pass when men began to mold.
	Now, always pay attention to the key words in these passages.
	When men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born onto them.
	Then the sons of God saw the daughters of men that were fear, and they took them as wives, which they chose.
	And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for he also is flesh, yet his day shall be 120 years.
	And there were giants in the earth in those days, and also after that.
	So before and after the flood.
	And when the sons of God came into the daughters of men and they bare them children, and the same were mighty men of old and men of renown.
	And God saw that the wicked of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of his daughter could only evil continually.
	And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth and grieved him at his heart.
	And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast and creeping thing and fowls of the air, for it repented me that I have made them.
	But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.
	And key word here: these are the generations of Noah.
	Noah was a just man, perfect in his generations.
	Not that he's perfect from sin, but in his generations.
	And Noah walked with God.
	And Noah beget three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japeth.
	And the earth was also corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.
	And God looked upon the earth, and behold, all flesh was all corrupt.
	All flesh was corrupt in his way upon the earth.
	And God said unto Noah, To the end of this will be the end of all flesh.
	Come before me, for the earth is filled with violence through them.
	And behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
	And make thee an ark of gopher wood, room shall make it for ark, and shall pitch in within without the pitch.
	So basically, after that, it's instructions of how they made the ark.
	And, you know, to save time here.
	And so we'll focus on these giants, these sons of God's offspring.
	So that's what the subject's tonight.
	And I'm going to play this quick video here.
	It's a one-minute video.
	Have you ever heard of the Nephilim?
	These mysterious giants, born from the union of angels and humans, are briefly mentioned in the Bible, but their impact on the ancient world was anything but small.
	Genesis 6:2 says, The sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they took them as wives.
	From this forbidden union came the Nephilim, hybrid beings that were part angel and part human.
	They were described as mighty men of old, powerful, feared, and renowned throughout the ancient world.
	But they weren't heroes.
	They brought violence, corruption, and chaos.
	Their existence was so dangerous, God brought judgment to the entire earth.
	The flood during Noah's time wasn't just a response to human sin, it was also a divine reset to wipe out the Nephilim and restore purity to creation.
	But were they all destroyed?
	Some believe Goliath, the giant slain by David, was one of their descendants.
	If that's true, the influence of the Nephilim didn't end with the flood.
	They were never meant to exist.
	They were the result of rebellion and the crossing of boundaries between heaven and earth.
	Why does this matter today?
	Because Jesus said the days before his return would be like the days of Noah.
	If you believe the Nephilim were real and that their influence still echoes in our time.
	All right, so it's a basic introduction.
	Anyway, so Mr. Morganti has opposing views on this.
	So, what we're going to do here, we've got a little format here.
	And so, we're going to try to keep the civilized and everything else.
	And two good guys here, John Pound is a very longtime friend of mine and all that.
	So, I'm going to shut up today and I'll give my thoughts later at the end of the show.
	But it's about Jim and John today.
	So, we're going to do is have two opening statements without interruption.
	So, Jim will have five to ten minutes to speak his thoughts on this, his introduction, what he thinks about this.
	Then, we'll hear from John, and he'll have his five to ten minutes uninterrupted.
	Then, we'll do a couple of rebuttals so they can go back and forth.
	Then we'll have an open discussion where they can just go at it.
	You know what I mean?
	That I'm encouraging that, but you know what I'm saying?
	So, we want to try to keep the civilized and also organized as well.
	So, and again, this subject is strictly about the Nephilim, the fallen angel, you know, falling angels, the Nephilim, and this whole where they come from and who they belong to, whatever the case.
	So, so we'll start off with Jimmy.
	So, if you want to do your opening statements, I'll start the clock.
	So, you got five or ten minutes, whatever, ten minutes maximum to do your statement.
	Gotcha.
	Okay, I hope these take 33 sentences coincidentally.
	So, we're all against all of us are against the one world order, a new world order, global religion, one religion, and all that.
	Whether it's science, the science, or religion, the religion, no other religion.
	So, the best way to read the text is from how I study in the original language.
	Also, I read the original language, what it says with the original words is to focus with the Constitution in mind and the freedom to believe in multiple gods and to blast and to blaspheme any God you want: Odin, Satan, Zeus, Jesus, God, Yahweh, whatever.
	So, in the original language, we all know that the Lord was Hayah.
	The numbers 1961, he's the I am, or it means the becoming.
	And everyone says, Oh, he became.
	The becoming is the same thing as Aleister Crowley and Helena Bavatsky, the becoming.
	That's their whole religion.
	It's a big psyop.
	It's their evolutionary thought that he wasn't the son of man in Numbers 23 and 19, and then he became the Son of Man.
	Um, because it says God was not the Son of Man there.
	Uh, and it also said God doesn't repent.
	And Dan just read that God and repenteth the Lord.
	So, and both words are Nesham, and they both mean repent, and it's the same word.
	So, one God does repent, and one God does not repent, and it's the same word.
	Uh, so anyway, the Elohim that created the universe in Genesis 1:1 were gods and goddesses, they made everything, they're the creators of the universe.
	Yahweh, the Haya, came and it said the earth became, it was Hayad darkness, and darkness was over everything, destroying it.
	The Elohim, whether they created this and/or it came here from the sky, which is the Lord of hosts, and the word host means warfare from the sky.
	They took this algorithm and it was under them.
	It worked for them, and they used that to create the day one through five.
	Day six, the Hayah was not used to create men and women, we were their children.
	The Haya was not, it was only used in one through five.
	Then the Elohim created us to be like them, to have dominion over everything.
	It says on heaven and earth.
	It says the entire universe we have dominion over, nothing and everything in it.
	We're not supposed to be enslaved to anybody, servants of Christ or servants.
	It's about the need of Yahweh.
	Day six of the night of days, the day six, afterwards, everything was good.
	And that's the only time it says everything was good.
	The next day in Genesis 2:1 is that's the night of day six, which is the Sabbath.
	The Lord Yahweh, it says, and everything was made, and then the host of them on 2-1.
	The host is the Lord of hosts, Yahweh, the Sabah, the warfare from the sky.
	Warfare is not good.
	The definition of that song is warfare from the sky that came down.
	He commandeered and conquered and assimilated the gods and goddesses, not all of them, some of them, on the Sabbath, because it's called the day of the Lord.
	The day of the Lord is always destruction, conquering, assimilation, and whoever doesn't assimilate is destroyed.
	Then that's why it says that Elohim rested, they ceased working.
	It said they ceased in their work.
	That word for work is not the same work that Yahweh uses for men and women.
	The word for work is a sacred crafting of the universe, which is all the ancient megalithic structures that we can't build anymore.
	Yahweh stopped.
	That's why everything's going down since then.
	That was a golden age.
	That word of them stopping working is when they assimilated and got taken over by this thing that is technology, whether they're being weak, it's consent-based, most likely.
	I think it's just weak behavior.
	And they submitted to this.
	That's why he told Adam, he says, I need a man to till the ground, to tend the garden.
	The word for tend is a bad to be enslaved, underfoot, trampled, hovering, like crushing you.
	Every word for work then is that.
	So going into this, Adam was an assimilated Elohim into Yahweh's garden when he took control of some Elohim.
	The Elohim that he didn't take control of are the ones he's jealous of in Exodus.
	He's a jealous God, jealous of the creators of the universe.
	When he Adam broke free and he was not allowed to eat from the tree of life to give him eternal life, that word eternal is Olam.
	Adam cannot have Olam anymore, and that's why they lived so long.
	The Nephilim are called, I might, I don't think I skipped anything.
	The Nephilim are called three things: the men, the mighty Gibor.
	Yahweh is called, I am.
	He says, I, Yahweh, am the Gibereim in Psalms 24-8 or 28-4, 24-8.
	I forget.
	24-8.
	I'm almost 100%.
	He calls himself Gibereim.
	They are the men of old.
	That word is Olam.
	Look up the word Olam.
	Every single time Olam is used, it's talking about Yahweh, his covenant, or his people.
	The Olam means a long-living life.
	Go back to the garden.
	The first time that was used was when Yahweh kicked Adam out.
	He said, He's like one of us.
	That's multiple Elohim.
	He kicks him out.
	He says, You can't live with eternal long life anymore, like the gods that he stole from that he has.
	He kicked them out.
	Those, when he kicked them out, their lifespans, that's why Noah lived 900 years.
	The men of old, it's not old men.
	It is, but it's not like ancient.
	It's men everlasting.
	It's the same word used for Yam Yahweh, the everlasting covenant.
	That's the same word.
	They're also called the renown.
	The word for renown is Shem.
	Shem literally means, and almost every time is used as a name of God, almost every time.
	Noah's son is literally Shem.
	Yahweh is, he's called Hashem.
	And that name, Shem, means famous people.
	Who's more famous than everybody in the book?
	Ever.
	And then it's like, it's like star people and celebrities.
	These people, that's, and what are they, and what do the elites own?
	That's what Yahweh is.
	Yahweh is the elites.
	His plan is depopulation.
	At the end of everything in Revelation, he makes plagues and destroys everyone.
	The Nephilim were assimilated.
	So when the Nephilim came, they were people that ate from Yahweh's tree that had access to Olam, everlasting life, which is Noah and Shem.
	They lived 900 years, 600.
	But when they're kicked out, they left the garden.
	That's why Yahweh said, which Dan just read, my spirit won't live with man anymore because they're only living 120 years.
	How is that possible if Noah was living 900?
	It's because his psyop, algorithmic science, religion technology, the science, the religion, wasn't sticking with men and women.
	They saw that they were dying because they weren't good enough.
	So what'd he do?
	Well, I'm saving who I can, the Nephilim.
	He saved Noah because Noah was the word for just a just man is righteous, but he was a Elohim that was part of them doing that in that able to eat the tree of Olam.
	That's why he lived so long.
	This is where it all comes from.
	It's not like, oh, they just lived longer.
	It's a psychological operation.
	That's why they live long.
	The brief end and the actual genealogy, which I can prove, Abraham, I don't know how much time I have left.
	I'll try to hurry up here.
	Two minutes.
	Okay.
	Abraham, when Shem to Abraham, I'm trying to skip a lot.
	Babel and all that, that was them giving the technology to humans.
	And Yahweh is the author of confusion because he made the first confusion of the access of our hardware.
	The software still works.
	The lip is what he confused.
	He's the author of confusion.
	When Abraham went to Hebron, that word Hebron, the original word is Hebron, is Chebron, whatever you want to say.
	It means magic binding with a spell.
	Arba in Numbers and Joshua was called he was Hebron.
	Arba means the four.
	The tetragrammaton is the four.
	He is a four-level Syab because Abraham had to do the altars all around.
	And it's a, it's when you look at the picture of shapes he made, it's a psychological algorithmic operation.
	He got assimilated in Hebron, which means the four, and it's called the cave of the patriarchs of the four patriarchs.
	One minute.
	Arba was the Arba was the great man among the Anak, Kim.
	The Anakim, some people say the Anunnaki, I'll say they created a race of people that followed them.
	This is the Anakim were Abraham, were Jesus, were Jacob, because Hebron was Abraham's son.
	Hebron means Arba in Joshua 14, 15.
	Hebron means Kiriath Arba, the Sitbal Four.
	The cave of the patriarchs is the four.
	That's where everything happens.
	Hebron means magic.
	It means actually binding as a spell, which is what religion means to bind.
	It's where Abraham got assimilated and developed this entire Syop program, stealing the land of Canaan from its original inhabitants, which is an illegal foreign invasion, which you would be against.
	They were coming back.
	Yo, what's up?
	All right.
	So we're going to do now: I'm just going to give John his five to ten minutes, whatever he wants, and let him uninterrupted give his statements here.
	Whenever you're ready, John.
	I'm ready.
	So here we go.
	So a lot of what you said, I could address later.
	I just want to give you the rundown of what the Bible says, what the book of Enoch says, and what almost every ancient religion says other than the Sethian Gnostics, which I would guess that that would be what Jim Morganti would identify with.
	And we'll talk about that later.
	Maybe he'll let me know.
	So here's what I believe about this.
	As it says in Genesis 6, the sons of God in the Hebrew, the sons of God is a phrase only used several times in the Bible.
	It is b'nei halohim, which means sons of God.
	The only other times it's used in scripture is in the book of Job when it's speaking about the creation of the world and it's speaking about when Satan addresses the throne of God by coming before the throne and the sons of God are standing there as he has been in the earth and he's coming up to tell God that he has been in the earth and he comes to accuse.
	So these are the references when we're in which we see B'nei Ha Elohim.
	Also, we see in the Bible that it references all through, even in the New Testament, in the book of Jude, references the book of Enoch.
	It references those who left their first estate.
	In the book of Enoch, it calls them watchers.
	And these watchers mix their DNA with the women and they create these massive giants and they eat flesh, which is consistent with every single mythological story that's ever been in existence.
	You can call them religions.
	You can call them myths.
	You can call them history.
	You can call them whatever you want to call them.
	But they're all consistent.
	These gods came down.
	And when we call these gods, we're talking about the sons of the Elohim.
	Now, when we speak about the Elohim, we should be respectful about what we're talking about because we don't fully understand all that that word encompasses.
	And the way I gather this, according to Enoch, they were there watching.
	They were watchers.
	They came down, they took an oath, and they did something they should not have done, enough for it to cause them to be chained up forever until the end of time, until the time comes to where the end of the age happens.
	This is the way I understand it.
	And I understand your point of view because I've actually studied a lot about Sethian Gnosticism, and I've read a lot of the text.
	I've read a lot of the Gnostic texts as well.
	And basically, you believe the Bible completely the opposite of what the Bible actually says.
	So as far as the Nephilim giants, there has been evidence of giants' bones that have been taken.
	I've known people personally who have seen these things.
	We have historical records, even Abraham Lincoln speaking of giants, physical giants.
	We know Goliath was a giant.
	The sons of Enoch were giants, which was where Goliath came from.
	Enoch was a fallen angel, and these entities were evil.
	They were eating people and offering sacrifices.
	The Anunnaki weren't gods.
	They worshipped Shamash, the sun god.
	And I think it's pretty apparent that what we're dealing with is either an elder race that we don't understand.
	We call them sons of God.
	But they were the equivalent of a wise, old, strong man being in the playbox, the playhouse, or living with a bunch of young females.
	And this is how it took place, in my opinion.
	They saw these women.
	They saw that they were beautiful.
	The Bible doesn't, just to respond, if I have any time left, how much time do I have left, Dan?
	You're still on the four minutes right now, so you got like six minutes.
	Okay, so you said that in what you understand, they needed men to till the garden.
	The Bible I read doesn't say that.
	I'm looking at it.
	There's nothing in there that speaks to that.
	Now, after they're kicked out of the garden, they do have to till the ground because of the curse.
	Before that, all of the fruit, all of the things were there for them to eat at their disposal.
	That's what the Bible says.
	And just to be clear, if we're going to talk about the Bible, even though you like to discombobulate it, I'm going to combobulate it a little bit.
	I'm going to take it and put it and see what it actually says here.
	Methuselah is actually the longest living human, not Adam.
	Methuselah lived quite a bit longer than Adam.
	The 120 years is in reference to how long before the flood was going to be, because in 120 years after the judgment was pronounced, that is when the flood occurred.
	So, it's not has nothing to do with the age and the lifespan of a human being.
	So, there's that.
	And you talked about the Anunnaki and Anakim, and I already talked about that.
	So, going into it further, I believe that the Bible is the only clear record of history.
	The Gnostic texts are found in very small cults, whereas the Bible is distributed throughout the world.
	We find them in caves all over the world.
	We find them through ancient religions all over the world.
	We find sects of Christians all over the world.
	Whereas with Gnosticism, it is not the same.
	You find them in caves, and there's very small groups of people who believe it.
	And I believe that it is linked to a lot of the misunderstanding of the world.
	I think, in my opinion, there's a lot of that.
	And I think that maybe that Gnosticism and Gnostics themselves, I think that they're all searching.
	We're all searching for things.
	My understanding is from research that I've researched, you know, the Gnostic text, the Christian texts, the occult text, is that the word of God is the only consistent record, archaeologically, archaeological records that we can find that line up with things, historical records of actual living people that were there.
	And so that's why I believe the Bible, and that's that's what I'm going to stick to as far as what I believe about the Nephilim.
	And I, like I said, I think there's ample evidence to prove that.
	And I am, I do appreciate Jim's willingness to come on here and talk about this openly because I think that it's important that we sharpen our minds on these things so that when we are able to see truth, any little bit of truth that we can, we take advantage of that.
	So, awesome.
	All right.
	So, we'll do now: we have two rebuttals.
	He has two sets of rebuttals.
	The first one, again, the first rebuttal will be like five to ten minutes, so whatever the case, 10 minutes maximum.
	Jim first, and John.
	So, whenever you're ready, Jim, I'll go for it.
	Yeah, I need some notes here.
	So, first off, I didn't, if you want to do Enoch, we can.
	We've all looked we've all done this.
	We've read it, spent thousands of hours on it, on the Bible, on everything, every book of Enoch, all the texts, Jubilees, the super gospels, and all that.
	Um, I'm focusing on the Bible because I think that's like the one thing that's everyone's like, okay, this is it.
	It's the science, the CDC.
	You can't, you know, it's written by the elites.
	They really make you think it's only that.
	If you want to do Enoch, we can.
	The one thing I wanted to address first is you said that the Bible does not say that Yahweh, this is before the apple, right away.
	He needed a slave.
	Genesis 2:15.
	Dan, I texted to you 2:15.
	What does it say?
	The Lord God, this is why you have to read the original language.
	The Lord God took the man, the Lord Yahweh, which if we all know this, when he says, read it in the original language, then, please, because I want to hear it in the original language.
	Okay, I want to read it first in English to show you where the SIOP is.
	The Lord God needed the man and put him in the garden of Eden to dress it.
	Oh, so loving and liberal.
	Oh, and oh, to keep it.
	Well, let's see what it says.
	What is the word for to dress and keep of Eden to 10?
	Oh, let's see.
	Let's see what it says.
	I sent Dan the picture.
	The word is abad for dress, which means to slave and slave, forced bondage, to kill hard labor, transgress.
	That word was not used in Genesis 1.
	Now to be clear, I'm no religion of anything.
	It's Genesis 2:15.
	Look it up.
	I'm no religion.
	I don't do any of the Gnostic stuff.
	They're all fruity people in robes.
	I don't trust anyone in robes.
	At night, I love robes.
	I love it.
	I get a pump on.
	I'll wear a robe.
	You know, you're dating girls, whatever.
	I understand that.
	And I know it's a family show, and I'm keeping it, you know, completely sophisticated.
	Those people are crazy.
	The way to read this, as a constitutionalist, that's believing that we have the freedom to believe in multiple gods, not Noahide and not 10 commandments, because the 10 commandments, it's only Yahweh.
	It's one world order.
	You can't have any other gods, the first law, and you can't blaspheme him.
	We are allowed freedom of speech to blaspheme any God we want.
	So, what was the other one I was going to do?
	Oh, that word abode, it means enslaved.
	So, he needed a slave before Adam did anything.
	That's actually why he made a man, was because, oh my God, I need a man.
	And he didn't make him.
	He took him from the ground and golemed him.
	That's why, when you, the spirit is data.
	The saving in the cloud is the cloud that you're being saved in of your data that you're giving them.
	He took the data of people they knew, he put it in Adam.
	It's a psychological operation being played on us.
	He made a golem.
	Adam was a man living already, and he took him and did that.
	That's why he needed a slave, which now here's my question.
	Think what for later, but after I finish this, we have dominion over the earth, Genesis 128.
	I think, believe.
	And we're able to eat all the trees, all of them.
	It doesn't say, not this one, not it says all of them, everyone.
	I'll show you the verse.
	That's 129, I believe.
	All the word for all is everything.
	We are to have dominion.
	We are the kings of the universe.
	No man or God is above us.
	Not one.
	Hold on, I'll pause your time.
	I'm not trying to interrupt you, but we're supposed to be on things about the Nephilim.
	That's what the subject is about.
	So I don't want you to waste all that time talking about different things.
	Thank you.
	Lost on that.
	Okay.
	So another thing that I brought, the man's year, it says, for man will only strive to live for 120 years.
	How is that not an age?
	I don't understand that.
	But the sons of God, what is Bnei Haile?
	Elohim.
	What is the word B'nai?
	The word B'nai, and I don't have to look this.
	I've done this a thousand times.
	It means a male born from a woman.
	Do you know that only men are called sons?
	You don't call any aliens sons.
	You don't call angels sons.
	You don't call dogs sons.
	Insects don't have sons.
	Only men are called sons.
	The sons of multiple gods and goddesses, that's what son is.
	That's why they married.
	Who can get married in the Bible?
	Everybody knows that God or Yahweh is the only one that approves every marriage.
	The Nephilim married.
	He doesn't.
	There's no marriage that is in the Bible that is not approved by Yahweh.
	Marriage, literally, to be married, the concept and process of marriage can only happen with a man and a woman.
	It can't happen with aliens and angels or animals.
	And we're not animals.
	We're not sheep.
	We're not rampants.
	We're not wolves.
	We're not.
	It's natural for a wolf to eat meat and lions to eat meat.
	We're not animals.
	They always compare us to animals in the text, and it's crazy.
	We are the gods.
	That's us.
	Goliath was never called a giant in the Bible, not once.
	It doesn't say that anywhere.
	I've kept looking my entire time.
	It's called the champion of great stature.
	It doesn't use the word giant, and it doesn't call him a Nephilim.
	Maybe a Raphaim, but they're all the same cousins anyway.
	They're all related.
	It's all a psyop.
	They were stolen people that assimilated to a foreign alien religion from a place of the golden age creators of the universe, which I would say is a place like a free land of constitution of the mind.
	They were stolen and these Nephilim are the progenitors of the entire Bible.
	That's the fallen angels that taught people stuff.
	That is the Nephilim that left their, they're like, what are we?
	Why am I following this foreign religion?
	They left, taught people other stuff.
	But in the first place, they're still screwed up anyway because they were assimilated like the Borg in Star Trek.
	It's a foreign religion.
	Yahweh calls himself, I'm not from here.
	What do the elites call themselves?
	They say they own everything.
	What does Yahweh say?
	I own the whole world.
	What do the elites want?
	They want total global dominion, one world order.
	That's Yahweh.
	And what's he going to do?
	He's going to destroy 90% of the population.
	What's Bill Gates want to do?
	Destroy everyone.
	Who makes the plagues?
	Yahweh makes every single plague in the Bible.
	The Philistines say in Samuel, oh no, it's the people.
	Are we going to stay on subject here?
	Are you just going to keep blaspheming my God?
	Well, it's easy to get off on this.
	So the Nephilim that you said you're about devourers in Numbers 13, 30.
	Dan, I forget which one it is.
	My numbers are messed up.
	They're so numb.
	They call themselves grasshoppers.
	The grass that what is a grasshopper?
	We all know Joel calls the Lord's people his army of locusts.
	That's what Yahweh's, the ones that follow Yahweh, which is anybody, could be anyone, could be anybody, are called locusts.
	What is a grasshopper?
	A grasshopper.
	The reason they use grasshopper is because they weren't in swarm.
	A grasshopper is a locust.
	It's the same animal.
	A grasshopper is a locust that's not with a lot of other locusts.
	They're the same.
	It's not doing anything because it has no, it's weak because it's alone.
	When the Joshua and when the spies saw the children of Anak, the people of Arba, Hebron, they said, we were like, the word for locust is actually, the word for grasshopper, look it up, is actually locust also.
	They said, we were like locusts to them.
	What do locusts do?
	They devour everything.
	What did Nephilim do?
	They devour everything.
	What do, who sends locusts?
	Yahweh.
	Who's called the army of locusts?
	Yahweh's people.
	What do Nephilim do?
	They steal land and conquer.
	What did Abraham do?
	He stole foreign land that he was told to go there because of a magic spell that's in that exact land that he went to.
	And he, and that was filled with people living there called Canaan and Babylon.
	And he took over a place violently.
	And it's, and, and that's what Nephilim do.
	He is the Nephilim because he is Shem, the men of old, Olam, long life.
	We all know.
	One minute, brother.
	What's that?
	One minute.
	Okay.
	We all know Methuselah lived the longest.
	I didn't, who cares?
	That's great.
	But so did Noah.
	They all lived 900 years.
	That's called Olam.
	Look at the first time that word is used in the garden.
	He said they're like one of us now.
	Don't let them live forever anymore.
	Them.
	That's why Adam, when he left the garden in Genesis 3, his name changed from A-D-A-M lowercase 120 to 121, which is A-D-A-M, which is a godlike stature because he broke the code, became like God.
	The serpent was technically right, even though serpent's a psyop.
	And it's still the same scenario, duality.
	30 seconds.
	Okay.
	And So the men of Olam are the Gabor, Yahweh the Gaborim.
	He calls himself Gaborim and Olam and Shem and Hebron and Arba.
	It's the same place, same system, same name, same thing.
	And you're telling me that they're not the same people.
	10 seconds.
	I'm just, they thought they had me, but I'm on to it.
	All right.
	So time's up.
	Yeah.
	So now, John, you got 10 minutes for your rebuttal.
	So I don't even know.
	It's hard for me to know where to start with that because there are so many things that were off subject, in my opinion.
	And I'm not trying to be rude.
	I just didn't really wasn't able to grasp a lot of what you said.
	I do know that Numbers 13, 33 clearly states that they were Nephilim.
	It says they were Nephilim.
	They were giants.
	That's clear what it states.
	And it says we were as grasshoppers in their sight.
	And I'm no genius, but when I look at that, I can see an analogy there.
	And I think that it's very simple to state that they felt like grasshoppers.
	It says they were the size of trees.
	So we can, you know, beat around the bush about that if you want.
	But to me, that doesn't give a great argument on the whole subject.
	And I'm not trying to be rude, but I really don't feel like I have a lot to argue about here.
	I don't, there was nothing that I heard that made sense to me.
	And I'm just being honest, and I hate to say that, but I had a lot of issues with some of the things you said.
	I felt like you were more bitter towards God than you were arguing about what the Nephilim were and how can you say that that is in fact true.
	Now, you can believe that, but there's no evidence that in any other text that I can think of that says that.
	Now, maybe they were, they were put in the garden to do that, but that word can be worship.
	That odd word can mean worship.
	It can mean lots of different things.
	So we can't jump to conclusions.
	I don't know about you, but I'm glad that God made Adam from the dust.
	And I'm glad that I'm able to walk this earth and at least try my best to do what I'm capable of doing here on earth.
	So I'm not, I guess maybe the idea that you're here maybe should give glory to God for that.
	That's what I think.
	And if the Nephilim are just mere men, then so be it.
	But the fact is that I'm pretty sure that the evidence, I'd have to see more evidence.
	And I'm not trying to be rude.
	I'd really like to hear what you actually have to say in evidence.
	And I'll give you even a chance to just reply to what I'm saying right here because I don't know what else to say.
	Wait, what was your question?
	I just need evidence of what you're speaking of.
	What you're saying, it makes no sense to me.
	What?
	Which one?
	Which, like, specifically, just name which one.
	Okay, so, like, so you're, so most of what you were saying was in reference to Yahweh being a Giberem, okay, which a Gibberem is a mighty man, right?
	Mighty, the mighty one, mighty.
	So a word mighty is an adjective anyway.
	It's not like a name that you would like give a lion.
	It's an adjective of something.
	So that doesn't make sense to me.
	So I'd like to hear more about that.
	Well, I've seen a lot of videos that they say, oh, the Giberem.
	And the people making these videos, they go like this.
	And like, the Gibberim.
	And like, what is it?
	And it's like, it's, and it's Neph, and it's the Nephilim or Giberem.
	Well, in Psalms 24, 8, read in the original language, King James says, who is this king of glory?
	The Lord, strong and mighty, the Lord Gibore.
	So I understand what you're saying.
	So we're told the Nephilim are Gibbereim, but the Lord's Gibberem.
	We're told the Nephilim are the men of Olam, but the Lord is Olam everlasting.
	The Nephilim are everlasting.
	We're told the Nephilim are Shem, renowned.
	We're told the Lord, his name is my.
	Look up the word Shem.
	I, I, I, I challenge that means the name.
	I know what it means, the name.
	But aside from that, look up every single time the word Olam is used in the Bible.
	It's only used for Yahweh, the Nephilim, and his covenants with his people.
	It's not used for anyone else.
	So if the Nephilim, literally, it says they are Olam.
	It literally says that.
	And Yahweh says that he is Olam and His people are Olam.
	That means they're all the same psychological operation that's being played on us.
	I don't understand.
	Like every, and then the other three aspects are Anak.
	His ancestors came from the four.
	What is the four of Hebron called the magic binding?
	That's Abraham tetragrammaton.
	That the four means tetragrammaton.
	That's why Arba, Kiriat Arba means the four.
	Look up the cave of the patriarchs.
	I challenge everybody.
	Cave of the patriarchs in Arba or Hebron or whatever you want to call it.
	It's the four patriarchs.
	The four.
	What is tetragrammaton?
	What is Yahweh?
	Remember how it says in Psalms 110.1?
	Um, oh, the Lord's the Lord said to the Lord, and who's he talking to?
	Both Lords are capitalized.
	Who's he talking to?
	He's talking to the psychological operation of before.
	It's it's a magic binding spell in your mind, and that and it's a by a four by in its own words.
	The Lord of hosts is a foreign alien.
	Okay, so hold on just a second.
	Let me we let me stop you there because we went way off what we're talking about here.
	So the Nephilim and the Giberem are not the same thing.
	I know that you may have heard that before, but it's not the same thing, absolutely not.
	Uh, so that to me, that doesn't make sense.
	The word Olam, uh, the Nephilim are still around as evil spirits on earth according to the book of Enoch.
	So they are everlasting walking across the face of the earth and continue to this day.
	And you're saying, oh, Yahweh is a Nephilim, and you're basing that off of what when you say Olam, and you're basing that off of when you say Giberem, which is not, doesn't make sense.
	That's so no father.
	Excuse me, who has no mother and no father?
	Who, uh, where do these spirits go that live forever?
	The realm of the Holy Spirit is Yahweh's realm.
	That's why the holy in spirit is capitalized.
	The spirits are the information of the golden age gods that, like we're giving on YouTube and Instagram and Facebook, or a birth certificate, that information that we're putting in is the Akashic records.
	That's that void was always here.
	Remember when we found the void of the internet, DARPA?
	When they said, uh, that's all we wow, it's like it's always been here.
	That's it.
	Ahasuerus, King Xerxes, his name is Akash.
	Remember his book of records?
	That's it's the same, and that's why Esther is istar.
	It means star, Esther, ether.
	It all means star.
	Oh, trendy lib.
	It's this, it's the psychological operation.
	And the Yahweh is the spirit holder of all of them.
	Yes, he is the only, he is Olam.
	So are Nephilim.
	The Olam is the spirit data that they hold forever, and they create their own timeline that they want you to believe of what they call time.
	Their time and history isn't real, it's they want you to think it is.
	You gave them your spirit.
	Your spirit is what's saved in the cloud, the cloud.
	That's why the new bodies are transhumanist.
	That's where they get it from.
	They get it from the Bible.
	The elites get everything from the text.
	Everything that's evil, Yahweh does.
	That's what he does.
	It's him doing it, but you can't see it because it's coded in a dimensional realm that you have to break through in your mind.
	Everything that it's once a finish up his segment there.
	Yeah, so like I said, I failed to believe that, and I and I fail to feel like I don't feel like you produced any evidence that I can grasp to other than your opinion on that.
	So I go ahead and give up the rest of my two minutes to be done to the next session there.
	I could ask something.
	What evidence do you have?
	Oh, hold on, Jim.
	You'll have his questions.
	I've got a few minutes.
	I wanted to keep this at a certain time just because I only have so much time to do this.
	But if we can move on to the next part, I'd be happy with that.
	So clarification, guys, of Psalms 110.1.
	If you notice the spelling, right?
	The Lord, capital L-O-R-D, said to my Lord, only a capital L and O D. Who sits at the right hand of God?
	There's Jesus.
	So David says, the Lord, that's the Father, said to the Messiah, Sit at my right hand, and I'll make thy enemies a foot.
	That's talk about God and Jesus.
	That's what that means.
	I want to get into them being different people or the same.
	Anyway, we'll stick on to the Nephilim stuff here.
	Can I ask you a quick question, please?
	Actually, you get, yeah, you're up next.
	So you got one more rebuttal here.
	So these are five-minute.
	So rebuttal number two, five minutes each.
	So I'll go for it.
	And then if you want to, after this, we open discussion.
	So if you guys want to hammer each other questions or whatever, go for it.
	So you got one more rebuttal, Jim.
	Then John, quick rebuttals for five minutes each.
	So go whenever you're ready.
	Do you say me first or John?
	You.
	All right.
	Hang on.
	I got to.
	I might have to burp.
	I.
	The Ajida.
	Okay, never mind.
	All right.
	Okay.
	A quick recap.
	Yahweh is a Gaborim.
	He calls himself mighty.
	Excuse me.
	He is Olam.
	So are the Nephilim.
	The Nephilim are Gaborim and Olam, both everlasting.
	No one else is everlasting except them two.
	Shem is Noah's son.
	The Nephilim are called the men of renown Shem.
	That's Noah's son's name, Shem.
	That lineage goes down to Abraham, Jacob, to Hebron.
	Hebron was Arba.
	Arba is the greatest man among the Anakim in Joshua 14:15 and Joshua 21:11.
	It clearly says Hebron is Arba.
	It says it's the same thing.
	The four, the Anakim are related to them familiarly.
	They're the same people.
	It's the same four Tetragrammaton Syop.
	They all conquer lands.
	They all devour lands.
	They're all called Joel 1.
	Look up Joel, the army of locusts.
	Yahweh says, ooh, my army of locusts.
	And remember, and I'm not going to get into making fun.
	I make fun of it because it hit me so hard.
	My question to you is very simple.
	What lineage do you have?
	I'm showing you word for word who does things by the algorithm of it.
	What algorithm do you have that doesn't go with what exactly Yahweh is?
	Like what lineage is there that's showing that the Nephilim are other people?
	Name several or a couple.
	There isn't any.
	It's all Yahweh's followers.
	It's all Abraham.
	It's them.
	That's the lineage.
	It's not Ham.
	Ham was Raphaim and this, that, and the other.
	It's them.
	It's always was them.
	It's who owns everything.
	Who has all the money?
	We all know who has all the money, the elites.
	Who owns the world and everything in it?
	Yahweh.
	Whose game plan at the end of everything is the exact same?
	Who makes all the plagues?
	Every year, we get a new virus or whatever.
	Who makes the plagues in the Bible?
	Yahweh.
	Who makes the plagues now?
	The elites.
	Who wants it to populate the earth?
	Yahweh.
	Who wants it to populate the earth?
	Bill Gates.
	Who tells you, don't be fertile?
	Fertility people are evil.
	We all think fertility cults.
	I'm not a pro-fertility cult guy.
	Do you see what they're saying?
	That's a fertility cult.
	What were they doing?
	Having children, worshiping the weather on spring.
	The Molech thing of them offering the burning sacrifice, that's the burning, the fiery refining furnace.
	It's the same system.
	It's the same system called by a different name.
	Who changes his name all the time?
	Yahweh.
	I mean, give me a lineage if you can, but you can't.
	I can.
	Is there time up or do I get you have more time?
	I'll give it up.
	Good.
	All right.
	Okay.
	So lineage-wise, we're talking about scripturally, they're Canaanites, so they have a different related lineage.
	Also, as far as like every other text in the world, it has lineages.
	Now we can decide what text do you want to base it off of.
	You want to base it off biblical texts only, which I can do, or do you want to base it off of the Greek texts?
	Do you want to base it off the Anuma Lish?
	Do you want to base it off of any other actual record that is the most ancient of records?
	Because the only ancient records that we have about the creation of man are the Babylonian records and the Bible records.
	And, you know, so these are the oldest records that we have.
	So which one do you want to base it off of?
	I mean, there's not much older, but the lineages are there.
	It talks about different bloodlines.
	And clearly, your idea of what righteousness is different than mine.
	And therefore, I will say to you the same thing that Joshua said when he was standing with his army.
	He said, choose you this day who you will serve, whether it's the gods that were on the other side of the flood or Yahweh.
	And so I choose Yahweh.
	And I know that a lot of people think that his judgments are evil, but I kind of look at that as, you know, we're kind of like dogs that are looking at a microwave, wondering, how does this thing even work?
	And even most people don't know how it works.
	They don't understand the geometrical design of the element in there that causes the waves to hit the food in a certain pattern to heat it up.
	They don't understand that.
	But us as human should understand the world, the one who set the world into motion, the one who grasped the has the winds and can understand the ability to create a man from dust that can create animals that can create all of these things.
	We are supposed to understand that.
	I don't see that that is something that I feel strong enough as you do to blaspheme against and to be hateful against.
	So that's my rebuttal.
	I just say that you obviously think that the righteousness of God is evil, and therefore we have completely opposite opinions on that.
	I don't think we're going to be able to come to an agreement on this because it's all based from that root.
	All right.
	So now, yeah, would you both of you guys, if you want to take a break for 30 seconds, whatever, and the next will be just the open discussion, just like the holds barred if you want to call it that.
	Then we'll get your closing statements afterwards and all that.
	And I just, you know, me with the biblical stance, and I'll just wait to the end to give mine.
	But this is about John and Jim right now.
	So, so let us know what you think in the chat, guys.
	We've got up on YouTube here and we're also broadcasting live on Rumble.
	But on YouTube, here we got a poll going on.
	You think the Nephilim are the children of fallen angels, cursed sons of Seth, just humans, or I don't know.
	So, 5% said I don't know.
	1% said humans.
	1% said cursed sons of Seth.
	And 93 whopping percent said fallen angels.
	So, thank you guys in the 154 votes.
	So, thank you all for participating in the poll.
	So, yeah, let us know what you think in the chat room, guys.
	And so, yeah, if you guys are ready, well, you know, the gloves are off.
	So, well, I mean, I agree with you that we're not going to agree.
	But firstly, you said that we're dogs looking at a like a technological device.
	We're not dogs.
	We're men.
	We're not sheep.
	Sheep are domestic.
	It was allegorical, man.
	I mean, look, you know what I was meaning.
	There's no reason to do that.
	I'm saying that our level of understanding is not to the level of the understanding of whoever, whatever you want to call it, that created all of what we're a part of, whether you call it the cloud, the Akashic record, the waters, whatever you want to call it.
	Like we are that level of intelligence in comparison.
	And of course, that we're, you know, that way, if you can think of it that way, then it's really hard to make a point of what you're saying.
	I think I just don't understand how you can believe that you understand more than the ancient records or even more than the brightest of minds in the world today by looking at that and just completely breaking apart, trying to break apart the scripture.
	Because if you really do think, if you really look at the scripture, I'm going to pray for you because I hope that you will look at the scripture and see what a wonder it actually is.
	I've read so many books, and I'm not even saying that to Bragg.
	The Bible is the one I keep going back to, but it also is encoded within cryptic language.
	The language itself is in numbers.
	Jumatria can be understood in musical notes.
	There's so many things in scripture, equidistant letter sequencing, all of these things.
	And so to discount it completely as nothing is kind of, I don't understand.
	I never said that.
	The Bible is the most important book in the entire universe to read.
	The reason is, is because it is written as a mirror reflection of nature.
	You simply by you reading the Bible, you're worshiping the creation because the Bible, the word, is a reflection.
	Yahweh is a reflection.
	That's why Yahweh came after the Elohim.
	He's a mirror reflection.
	That's why, did you ever hear vampires can't see their reflection?
	People can't see why Yahweh is the problem of everything because he's a reflection of our nature of creating the universe.
	That's why we're living in the in that's the simulation.
	That's why he assimilates.
	The simulation is Yahweh.
	Is this science?
	The science is the same thing.
	Adam, the Atom split.
	The big bang, Adam and Eve, you know, family show, bang, after they split.
	It's this, the same system that wrote this text is writing religion, is writing is everything, science, everything.
	We gave our power to a mirror reflection.
	That's what Yahweh is.
	That's why there's two creation stories.
	It's not a create.
	He reflected nature and he put it in here.
	The text is real.
	It's the most mind-bending thing to read because why?
	Because the gods and goddesses were here before that saw this system of what we call universe and formed it.
	And as they're forming it, they created this thing called Yahweh, which is the Haya.
	That's how they were like, oh, well, what I can use this technology.
	What's Jesus called?
	The word and the logos.
	What's the word for answer me?
	Where are you basing this information off?
	Where does it say that the gods created Yahweh?
	Tell me that.
	Show me.
	And Genesis 2:1.
	Thus it doesn't say God created Yahweh there.
	It says, and what?
	What does it say?
	And then, and then, what's the next word?
	The host.
	Who's warfare?
	That's why that word, that sentence came after everything was good.
	Yahweh is technology for your mind.
	It's a mental dimensional host he's talking about.
	Those are not gods.
	Those are stars and all that.
	Genesis, the last verse of Genesis 1 says everything was good.
	That's the last time the Bible was good.
	That's the last time.
	Genesis 2:1 is the start of the psyop where the Lord of war came from the sky.
	That's what the host is.
	He's the sky army.
	The heavens' armies.
	That's when it came down and overtook the create.
	The creator got taken over by the creation.
	That's why Jesus is called what's what's the word for the carpenter?
	Tecton.
	What's the word for the word?
	Logos.
	Technology.
	That's where you get technology from.
	Was Jesus the Tecton and the logo?
	Tecton means mason or carpenter, whatever you want to call it.
	I don't want to get that.
	Yeah.
	I'm the host.
	That's nothing to do with any of that.
	That's the star.
	I don't understand that.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Like, explain that in detail right here, what you're talking about.
	Because to me, when I read that, I don't see that at all.
	Even reading the even reading it in the Hebrew, I think that's a stretch.
	What?
	Which part?
	The host?
	Yes.
	So when Genesis 1, honestly, tell me this.
	When Genesis 1 ends, the last verse, and it says, Everything was, and it was good.
	All that was good because Yahweh came out.
	It says the Elohim spoke, and then the Haya did.
	The Elohim told the technology, do this.
	Thank you.
	And oh, yes, sir.
	Yes, sir.
	Okay.
	That's Yahweh.
	Genesis 2, and the last verse of Genesis 1 says everything was good.
	The Elohim spoke to the Haya and said, Do this.
	He did.
	That's why the Haya first made everything dark in Genesis 1:2.
	He destroyed everything.
	That's Jeremiah.
	Remember, and the whole world was destroyed.
	All the cities were destroyed.
	He destroyed everything that they just made in Genesis 1:1.
	They overtook this technology.
	Like, wow, this is a crazy tech.
	And then they use it for good.
	That's a stretch.
	That's a jump.
	That's a jump, man.
	That's a stretch.
	I got to say that takes a lot of reading into there.
	How is a high?
	How is the Lord of warfare from the sky good?
	Tell me how it's good.
	It says, Everything was good.
	The next verse, Genesis 2:1, so were created the heavens and the earth, earth.
	And then sky warfare, battling from army battling from the sky.
	How is that good?
	Name four reasons how that could be good because I know everyone loves the tetragon.
	Fours, numbers are evil, geometry is evil, shapes are evil, like circles are evil.
	Uh, shapes aren't evil.
	We all know this.
	I guess it would be good for those who that the army of hosts is coming for, but not so good for those who are uh against that that army.
	I would imagine everything was good.
	Everything was good.
	Who was the what was warfare needed for?
	Everything was good.
	Well, the Genesis 2 explains further.
	I'm pretty sure that that's exactly what it does.
	I mean, have you read the rest of the rest of it and read?
	You're off.
	That's before the seventh day.
	Day six, the night of day six, is Genesis 2-1 and 2-2.
	Day seven, why do you think they separated the sixth day?
	The sixth day is the last verse in one.
	Why do you think the seven, what is the word for seven?
	Shiva.
	Sheba.
	Shabba.
	Shabba.
	Well, it's also pronounced, which is destruction, the Lord of war.
	It's about rest, actually.
	That's what, you know, because I actually read the Bible and try to listen to what it's saying.
	And it actually means rest.
	He rested.
	And there's even parables in the New Testament that talk about him resting.
	And then the enemy sowed his seed while he was resting.
	And then he will come one day and he will separate the wheat from the tares and the tares will be burn up.
	So as of right now, they are among us.
	These evil are roaming the earth.
	They're here.
	They look like men.
	They talk like men.
	They're here.
	But besides the point that still doesn't prove anything about the Nephilim to me, which is what the debate was about.
	But you talked about this being a simulation of Yahweh.
	If this is a simulation of Yahweh, are you saying that the book of the Bible that he calls the word of God, since it says simulation, I guess he'd be able to control what is pumped out in books and stuff along those lines?
	So how do you find any truth at all when you believe it's all simulation?
	So where does your truth come from?
	Where does your ideology come from?
	I mean, I did, but no, I meant it from, it comes from, it does come from the text, but it comes from how to break it apart and how to actually read what's being put on my mind.
	I'm not a simulationist.
	This is real.
	We're real.
	The children building, creating the universe is real.
	Are you like, I don't want to get caught?
	I know we're on Nephilim.
	How else are there gods and goddesses?
	Where do they come from?
	He literally says, those other, you will have no other gods.
	Where do they come from?
	Lowercase G.
	It doesn't matter.
	There was no lowercase in the original language.
	We all know this.
	Uppercase, when did it?
	We all know when it came.
	It came way, way, the original words, there's no uppercase or lowercase.
	Where did the gods come from?
	So I think that like in the scripture, it actually is in line with the Anumalish and a lot of those texts when it talks about Yahweh being the host of one type of people and that he was going to be the one who ruled all people because the other ones didn't judge correctly.
	They didn't judge righteously.
	And that he inserted himself in to be able to pick a group of people to put his word on earth.
	The Bible says that he picked the Hebrews because it doesn't say exactly why, but I think it's clear why.
	And when we know about the Hebrews, how they're meticulous record keepers, in order for them to pass the words on, they have to memorize the entire text.
	Even to this day, the Jewish children have to memorize the entire Hebrew text and they have to copy it.
	If they mess up, they restart it.
	So they were meticulous keepers of the text of Yahweh.
	And so all I'm saying is this, you can believe Yahweh is evil, but there's also the school of thought that believes he will come back to wipe away every tear from our eyes and pain and death will be no more.
	And I think that that's where my faith lies in this.
	And whether or not the Nephilim are human or not human, I realize that your understanding hinges on this.
	I think that it hinges on this idea that they have to be human, because if they're not, then you're gravely, gravely mistaken.
	I believe in the supernatural.
	I understand that.
	I'm giants and all that.
	That's who I am.
	All right.
	What does every Native American legend tell you about the giants that lived here?
	What happened to the giants that lived in America before the Native Americans, illegally, by the way, it was illegal, came here from Europe.
	So maybe they're the same people.
	They actually did come from Europe.
	What did every single one of their legends say?
	It said that there was a technologically advanced race of giants here, blonde hair, red hair, all different hair colors, 10,000 years ago, 15,000, that were super smart and advanced.
	That they came here illegally.
	What's this sound like?
	Why did Yahweh tell Abraham to go to a foreign country illegally?
	Who does that?
	Who funds people to come to other countries illegally to take them over?
	Who does that?
	The Native Americans all write about this.
	They came to this country.
	Well, and who knows even what they were?
	A mass migration of millions of people came here.
	They all said that giants lived here that were incredibly smart that did things that they couldn't understand.
	Kind of like Tartarus.
	Oh, that's right.
	What's Hades or the bad place called in the Bible?
	Oh, Tarshish.
	So familiar, isn't it?
	Every place they call bad is the gods and goddesses, the giants, whatever, however you want to look at it.
	They all go back to the golden age, all of them.
	And what was the golden age?
	The golden age was our constitution.
	That's the biggest psyop of all time.
	The golden age is like our constitution, the freedom of religion of multiple gods and blasphemy.
	We have the freedom of blasphemy and is better than the Ten Commandments as an American.
	Like that's our constant, our constitution is above that because Yahweh is a one world order globalist.
	That's him.
	They have all the, and he owns everything.
	Yes, the elite do own everything.
	Yeah.
	I'm right there with you.
	But who loves the world so much when we're told every single time the whole world is evil in the Bible?
	Who loves an evil world?
	And that they would kill their own son for it?
	Who does that again?
	Abortionists.
	Dan, I gotta be, I'm gonna have to step out on this because the debate's going in a different direction.
	It's not even on topic here.
	Yeah, just going way off topic.
	The whole topic is about the Nephilim of Fallen Angels.
	Are they children?
	I'm just digging his heart because it's so all connected.
	I get it.
	I don't feel like it's all connected, but it confuses the audience.
	And then, yeah, but it's not really connected when you've got to focus directly on the Nephilim.
	I was talking about the beginning and whatnot.
	It's nothing to do with the fallen angels' children.
	There's no connection with you guys then from Amac.
	How their Hebron is.
	Look up.
	Dan, can you pull out Joshua 14, 15, King James?
	Joshua 14, 13.
	Is this to do with the giants?
	No, I didn't send it to you here.
	Joshua 14.
	Yeah, go to the King James.
	Yep, got it.
	And the name of Hebron's, the lineage of Jacob was Kiriath Arba.
	Which Arba, Joshua 14, 15, was a great.
	Hebron is Arba.
	Joshua 14, 15.
	Arba is the greatest among the Anakim.
	Who are the Anakim?
	The Nephilim.
	I said I agreed with you that Anakim were Nephilim.
	I said that.
	But I said Goliath wasn't a giant.
	Who cares?
	Okay, we're not talking about it.
	It never says, it never calls Goliath a giant.
	He's a champion.
	A great stature.
	That's the same thing.
	Yes, you're exactly right, Dan.
	Thank you.
	Never says the word giant.
	The Anakim, yes, they're Nephilim.
	Yeah.
	Hebron, it's just Hebron Jacob.
	It's the it says that it says the name of Hebron before, which means of ancient times before that they changed the name, is Arba.
	That's what it's saying.
	It's not saying that that's the same, that all the people that came from there that live there now are those people.
	It's saying the name of Hebron before was how much further past was Joshua than Genesis 12, Genesis 13.
	How many years past was that?
	Okay, they were run out.
	I mean, don't you, you remember in the scripture that they were being run out of there, and that's what they named it before.
	But a lot of these entities, you gotta some of these entities pop their names up like Anik.
	If you look up Enoch, there's not a whole lot that is talked about Enoch, so it's hard to really gather any kind of evidence or anything that means anything based off of that.
	Well, still, Hebron was called Hebron back in Genesis.
	The first mention, it wasn't called Arba, it was called Hebron.
	Here it says Arba was, but how was Arba before Hebron if it was originally called Hebron?
	Arba is Hebron.
	That's the trick because they both mean four.
	Arba means four, and Hebron means magic binding of the four Keber of the cave of the Patriarchs of the four, which is where the oaks of the Mamre were in uh, where Abraham went.
	So, what's this got to do with the Nephilim?
	Because the Arba is the Nephilim, he's the head Nephilim, or the not the head, the great man among the Nephilim.
	And the reason you said you just mentioned that, well, well, we don't, but we have all these ancient texts.
	How many times, Dan, you probably know this better than I do.
	How many times does Yahweh say, destroy all their writings and their parchments, and their scrolls, and their sacred and their um statutes and their ways of life, destroy all them.
	How many times does he say that in the Bible?
	Yahweh comes to a country illegally and he destroys everything, and then he puts it because he sent Abraham to a foreign country that he had to fight for.
	Yeah, God created that people that belongs to God, buddy.
	Why do you have to send Abraham there?
	Because there's a covenant with his people to destroy the head of the serpent, and these people were serpent people that sacrificed children and ate each other's flesh.
	And they were also not even fully human.
	And the Bible is just very clear that a lot of these tribes, like the Zuzamines and all of these, were actual tribes of Nephilim.
	It says Nephilim, and some of them had six fingers, six toes, some of them were bigger than others.
	I mean, this is clear if you read the entire book of Joshua, what they were going into the land to destroy.
	So, Yahweh owns everything, yet he has to send it.
	Do you know?
	So, are you?
	I'm just asking, are you saying Abraham?
	Think about it rationally right now because we're told the Bible is alive, which I believe it is alive, and everything's happening right now.
	Right now, if some country was doing something you don't agree with, do you or anybody, any person have the authority to tell somebody, hey, go there, destroy them, slay all of them?
	Which some figures say it's like 2 million people, some say it's 600,000.
	Who knows?
	Well, you're missing one thing, brother is that they God just says, Go destroy them because they posed a threat to the Israelites.
	That's why God said you need to stop these people now.
	And also, the reason why he flooded you, you have to get rid of most of these giants.
	And they were starting to spring up again.
	And yeah, they were posing a threat to all of humanity.
	So that's why God told Joshua and all these people, hey, listen, go.
	And he told them when you go into the camps, don't touch no food, don't take no money, don't take any animals because they're all corrupt, genetically, and all that.
	So that's why God instructed them to do that, completely wipe out these places because they were Nephilim bloodline.
	That's what they were.
	And that's why God did that because they were an abomination to the earth.
	The whole reason why the flood took place in the first place.
	So, he owns everything.
	He can't stop it.
	And I know it's no one's going to agree with me on that.
	So, Genesis 14: when Yahweh tells Abraham go to Sodom and help the king of Sodom, fight off other nations trying to stop Sodom.
	The five, the battle of the kings, there's other nations that aren't any of anyone in the Bible.
	Ketalimer, LS title, the king of Goyam, which, you know, everybody knows it means nations.
	They went to war against Sodom and Gomorrah.
	And Abraham helped Sodom to rescue his cousin, his nephew.
	He helps Sodom.
	Remember, they're so evil.
	We were just told the chapter before they're evil.
	Abraham, who's helping evil for an agenda?
	Abraham helps the king of Sodom.
	The king of Sodom says, Let me give you money.
	Abraham says, Remember, in the last verse of Genesis 14, Abraham 24, he says, Let me give you money.
	Abraham literally says, No, don't, because if I do, lest the people know that you have made me rich.
	Do you know what less means?
	It means I don't want them to know or they're going to know that I got rich off of you paying me to help an evil person.
	He said, Give my men the word for portion is a territory of land.
	That's how he got the land.
	He helped Sodom destroy other nations that knew Sodom was evil.
	He helped them.
	Then Yahweh is like, Yes, get the money, get the land, we got it.
	And then what did they do?
	Destroyed it and took it and took land.
	I think you're misinterpreting that big time.
	I think he said that he didn't want people like somebody to say, Oh, I made you rich, because that's exactly what these elite leftists and creepy people do.
	They try to give you money so that you're on their leash and that they can be your little, you can be their little lapdog.
	And Abraham, he's just, I don't, he, I don't need your money.
	I just went and killed all these freaking kings, bro.
	I don't need your money.
	I just, you know, so he, but that's what he's saying.
	He's saying, I don't need your money because I just went and took my own brother back.
	It's his brother, not his nephew.
	And I didn't, and I didn't need your money.
	I don't need your help.
	And I don't want people to say that you made me rich.
	I want, I want to, I want to do this and show that I went and slayed these kings and I did it on my own.
	You didn't do it.
	The only reason I even got your people back basically is because that my brother was there.
	And so I wanted to take him back.
	So he helps evil.
	So help evil people.
	And for family.
	Maybe I can see that a little bit, but we're told Sodom is so evil.
	So he's on their side.
	He's on their side for an agenda.
	And it actually says, lest thou should say.
	The original word says, so they don't know that I got rich from you.
	He doesn't say that.
	Lest thou should say.
	You just said that, dude.
	And now you're adding more to it.
	Lest thou should say.
	Let that sing, unless you say, unless, unless, lest, unless is modern English, unless, uh, unless you say, lest you say, because if you say that, that's, you know, that's not what he's looking for.
	And when you look at Sodom and Gomorrah, God didn't come judge Sodom and Gomorrah till later.
	So we don't know what the state of these prisoners that were taken was in at the time to begin with.
	So I don't see how this related to Abraham helping Nephilim that Sodom was wicked in Genesis 13.
	I'm sorry, in 14, in 15, that they're wicked.
	Right.
	And okay.
	And he, and Abraham debated with God.
	He said, what if there's only like 10 righteous?
	What if there's five?
	What if there's he even goes all the way down to one?
	He didn't want them to be destroyed.
	That's the thing because his brother was over there.
	And so they, that, so that's the thing.
	That's what I think you're missing.
	He's not like, he's not, he's not pushing for their destruction.
	He's not pushing to not help them.
	He's, he, you know, his brother decided to live there and therefore he was being a good neighbor, which is what we're called to do underneath the Torah and underneath the commands of God, which is not a bad thing.
	I don't, I don't see how that's a bad thing.
	The Lord said in 15 that the nations are hearing the outcry of Sodom, that they're going to, that they were going to destroy, that they, the nations were getting mad at Sodom.
	He says, because the nations are seeing what's happening, that's why he destroyed Sodom.
	Because, and Abraham is a proven liar.
	In 13, when him and Sarah, who's what's Brahma's wife's name?
	Sarah.
	Abraham.
	Abraham.
	Brahma.
	Sarah.
	When he went there, he lied to the king.
	He said, Oh, this is my sister.
	First of all, he married his sister.
	She is blood.
	She's half, but blood, still blood.
	And he said, because you're allowed to lie to foreigners.
	You can't lie to your neighbor.
	Thou shalt not lie to your neighbor.
	The word for neighbor is you're a close person, but foreigners, you're allowed to.
	He lied to the king.
	The king gave him money because then he writes, well, he said, thank you.
	It's your sister.
	He lied to him.
	The command is bear false witness against your neighbor.
	Bearing false witness means to a false witness about what your neighbor did.
	And it means against them.
	He wasn't lying against his wife or against anybody.
	He was merely trying to save his life.
	I agree.
	He lied to the foreigners.
	That's a different, that's not a lie.
	That is actually just, you know, that lying to lying is bearing false witness.
	That's not the same thing.
	Lying is different than bearing false witness, in my opinion.
	Like, if I were to say, you know, I don't know if you're married, but I would hope that if your wife asks you, you know, do I look okay today?
	You're not going to be like, no, you look, you actually don't look very good today.
	You kind of look a little bit off.
	You know, I would hope that you would use that opportunity to be wise in those situations, which is what I see there, being wise in those situations, because these are kings.
	You know, his wife was obviously very, very beautiful.
	And on top of that, they were half-sisters.
	So it wasn't a lie, actually.
	Well, yes, but he didn't tell them that they were married.
	That's the lie.
	That is an outright lie.
	He said, this is just my sister.
	I think we're getting off subject, though.
	I'd appreciate it.
	I wouldn't mind having a discussion about this some other time, maybe.
	But when it comes to actually the subject that is in, I'd rather stick to that because I only have so much time.
	I told Dan I would give an hour and it's been an hour and a half.
	So I think that I just want to say, go ahead, Dan.
	Can we wrap this up?
	Yeah, guys, give a closing.
	And yeah, because, you know, this got way off subject, and I was actually ready to interrupt to stare the ship back on.
	So basically, the closing is what are the Nephilim?
	The sons of the fallen angels, or the sons of Seth, or the sons of this one, or that one, whatever the case.
	So, uh, yeah, just give your, we'll start with you, Jim, and John afterwards.
	So, go ahead, Jim.
	Yeah, I would, um, I again, what are angels?
	What are Elohim?
	What are men in this context of the Bible?
	Because if Nephilim can get married, which we know they can, and only men can get married, which Yahweh, only Yahweh, we all we all know this, can approve marriages, which I, and I know it sounds crazy, which I just said, oh, he didn't say this, he held this back, but that's not a lie somehow.
	Any other situation, you would agree with everything I'm saying in the in reality, except for Yahweh destroying everyone.
	Gay people get married, that's not approved by God, so you can't.
	That's not marriage, though.
	Yeah, I agree with you.
	Like, that's not the word for marriage is men and women.
	If the Bible calls someone married, does the Bible call a bunch of two Subaru driving American women, you know, dressed like Melissa Etheridge, uh, with, you know, some say bread feet.
	Do they call them married in the Bible?
	Two chicks, Ciserin, or it's a family show.
	Uh, like, no, they don't, they can't say anything.
	The only people that get married in the Bible are men and women, and and the it's the ceremony for marriage.
	We know they're married because it says wife, and the word for wife is a woman that is married to a man.
	It doesn't say the Nephilim took women and raw, and and uh, just like uh, wow, no, they married them, they married.
	There is no name three, name two ceremonies for marriage for angels marrying people, there isn't one, or for aliens marrying aliens.
	That's not called marriage, marriage is only between men and women.
	If the Nephilim married sons of men or daughters of men, that means they have to be men, they have to, and that's why they're called the sons.
	Look up the word b'nei.
	I challenge everyone to look up the word b'nai hot b'nai, a male child born of a, of a female mother of a female mother.
	It doesn't say woo-woo.
	Um, we're talking about the b'ne alohim, not the b'nei.
	It doesn't say yoga instructor.
	Oh, kill your ego, you evil man.
	Oh, you straight man.
	Oh, we're yoga and shook.
	No, it's not speaking spiritually, it's telling you a male descendant born of a womb from a woman of multiple gods and goddesses were these people that married uh or i'm sorry that had children that had the process and ceremony of marriage.
	Do you take me the under god in the church?
	That's him.
	No one else can get married.
	The Nephilim, and on top of that, since Yahweh approves marriage, and since they're called the Olam, the men of Olam, old, Shem and Gibereim, that's all Abraham.
	Abraham was the wealthiest man in the world almost.
	Who owns everything?
	Yahweh owns everything.
	He is the elite.
	This is why people everywhere, because it's not, it's Yahweh.
	It's him.
	He's the elite.
	He's the lizard people.
	Job 36:22 literally says God is a lizard person shapeshifting reptile.
	Look up the word power.
	No, it doesn't say anything like that.
	Job 32.
	Look it up.
	I know it's crazy.
	I'm laughing a little.
	Okay.
	I'm a serious man of integrity, but Job 36, 22 literally says, Behold, God is the exalted lizard person shapeshifting reptile.
	That's the word for power.
	Look it up.
	It's called Koak.
	And then actually, if you can share that on the screen so everyone sees it.
	So, Job 36:22.
	22.
	Click on the number of the word for all-powerful.
	And then look at that word.
	And then go to Leviticus 11:30, I believe it is.
	It's the same word used for a shape-shifting chameleon lizard.
	No, it's not even close.
	No, not even in the slightest.
	Job 36, 22.
	Yeah, I just showed that has nothing at all to do with that.
	Okay, I'm going to read it to you out loud.
	Okay, all right.
	What's the word for in his power?
	In his power.
	What's the original word in Hebrew?
	Behold, God exalted his power who teaches like the word.
	Click on the word in Bible in any app you want.
	I don't have it.
	Click it up.
	I got to hear you.
	Like the meaning could mean vigor or a large lizard.
	Okay.
	Now, John, thank you so much.
	Go down to the first usage in the Bible.
	It's Leviticus 11:30.
	Click on Leviticus 11:30.
	What does it say there?
	It says he is the monitored lizard.
	Well, it's talking about lizards here.
	But it's talking about a list of unclean animals in Leviticus.
	Yes, well, the word there is the family and lizard and snail.
	That's the masculine version of that word.
	I see exactly what you're saying, but it can also mean strength and force because Leviathan was known as the most powerful lizard.
	But in other verses of the Bible, it's clear that it's talking about might and strength.
	So you choose to believe that this version means he's the lizard king.
	Is that what you're saying?
	Who is the exalted, mighty lizard?
	Serpent, worm.
	Oh, Jacob, you worm.
	Oh, Jacob, you worm, you will crush the man that wields the hammer in Isaiah 41.
	Remember?
	It says Yahweh created us in his image.
	So are we lizard people as well?
	Created us in his image.
	Yahweh created them in his assimilation.
	Yes, he does make you like him.
	It's an assimilation.
	We're created in the image of the gods.
	Genesis 1:28.
	No, we're created in his image.
	He's the Haya.
	I challenge any Bible scholar out there.
	Genesis 1, the Elohim spoke to the Haya, to Yahweh, and he did do it.
	This is going way offhand, man.
	I mean, you already debated this subject.
	So, yeah, this is ridiculous.
	It says no such thing at all, at all.
	Not even slowly, remotely.
	It says he's the exalted, powerful lizard.
	No, it does not.
	That's what it said.
	That's the same word.
	It does not say you that.
	You're configuring two different scenarios here.
	It's what the false preachers do.
	They're called stacking.
	You take something, you take some out of context, and you stack it on the verses.
	Read these in context.
	These are two different things, man.
	Two completely different animals.
	Well, then, how is okay, just really quick.
	I'm sorry, man.
	Like, I'll let John finish up here.
	This is the last tag that I wanted to add on.
	And this is something to do with the Nephilim.
	So let John, like, you know, give his closing statement.
	All right.
	So my closing statement is this.
	I encourage all of you to read the Bible, even look into the Hebrew, see what you can see for yourself.
	Allow the Holy Spirit to work through you when you're going through these things.
	Because ultimately, you're going to come to one to two conclusions.
	If you're going to hate Yahweh or you're going to love him.
	And I choose to love, I think that Jesus, his son, who claims to be his son, who came to the world to offer salvation and to offer forgiveness and to offer a chance to break free from the curse that we placed ourselves under by partaking of the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil.
	He will allow that curse to be passed us, just like it shows in the Passover, just like it shows in all of these things.
	And the seed that is against us, that has been against us, that's constantly trying to push us down.
	That's always trying to devour the good, the righteous, that destroys the earth, the ones who are out there putting waste in the ocean.
	One day the Bible tells us that Yahweh will come and get rid of all those people and he'll wipe away every tear from our eye.
	Pain and death will be no more.
	And I look forward to those things.
	And I think that's what the Bible clearly says.
	And so my advice to you is to read the word.
	Don't listen to anything anybody else says about it.
	That's not, it's their opinion.
	Don't listen to what I say about it.
	Read it for yourself.
	Ask the Holy Spirit to guide you.
	It says that if you believe in Jesus, if you believe in him and you have faith and you put your faith into him, that you have the power to over life and death, that you can be called the sons of God.
	You will have the ability to be called the sons of God.
	And so that you will be transfigured and you will be like the sons of God.
	And so there's a difference here.
	And I think that clearly choose this day whom you will serve.
	And I digress.
	There we go.
	Thank you guys for allowing me to do this.
	Jim, thank you for having the discussion.
	Dan, thank you for facilitating it.
	I'm not one to look for debates at all, but Jim, you have been asking for this for a long time.
	So I figured we'd go ahead and get her done.
	So here we go.
	Yeah, guys.
	No, thanks.
	I agree with you on letting everyone do it themselves.
	We're given a narrative by everyone.
	We weren't taught how to read in their dimensions of how it was written to be read.
	Well, that's why the Holy Spirit asked me.
	You need to give my closing statement or no?
	Well, I want to share one thing, and this is related to this topic, and it could not have come at a better time.
	I thought that his clothing statement, his closing statement was the one just before mine.
	Was that not his closing statement?
	Just going back and forth.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, Jim did you just did yours.
	So, yeah.
	Wait, wait, what was my closing statement?
	We were talking the whole time, though.
	No, you did your closing statement, and you started going off about the other thing there with the lizard thing had nothing to do with the Nephilim.
	That was my closing.
	Yeah.
	No demon's been about that.
	But let me share something that happened to me.
	Here's something that happened to me this week here.
	And this was scary as hell.
	And I'm going to use exactly the term like that.
	So I got encountered by a demon.
	Okay.
	And I'm telling you, 45 minutes and I'll never forget the stuff for the rest of my life.
	I encountered this demon and the demon revealed every unconfessed sin I had in detail.
	And I got into an engagement with this demon, right?
	This demon told me everything that confirmed that he was a son of a fallen angel, confirmed that he was a Nephilim, a disembodied spirit of the Nephilim.
	He told me every detail about this.
	And when you're going through the scriptures, guys, and it's not just the Bible.
	I'm American Indian, my mother said, right?
	Native Americans will tell you that the fault, they call them the star gods, whatever.
	They had no clue what they were.
	Every ancient culture in the world talks about from the heavens coming down to have children with the daughters of man.
	The book of Enoch, the book of Joshua, the book of Jubilee, all these ancient texts, all these ancient religions, all the ancient cultures talk about this.
	This is engraved in humanity.
	Then we go to the Bible, Genesis 6 and so on.
	It confirms it.
	And it specifies that Genesis 6, you can't get any clearer than that, man.
	You can't.
	It specifies, that's why I said, pay attention to the key words.
	The sons of God, right, saw the daughters of men.
	That says when men begin to multiply on the earth, then it specifies three different categories: men, then also sons of God, then daughters of man, specifying the son of God.
	And they didn't need the thing is, they were defying God.
	So you think they're going to ask God's permission to marry them?
	No, they were defying God because they were lusted after him.
	And they all took a sworn oath to do this stuff.
	And the whole thing of this Sam Jiasa, which me and John, I think, that are showing us, we dictate Sam Jias' plan to impregnate the woman to destroy humanity's GNA so the Messiah could never come.
	Because the very first prophecy in the Bible is in Genesis chapter 3, talking about the coming of the Antichrist and the coming of the Messiah.
	So their plan was to destroy the blood, to cut the bloodline of Adam off even before it began.
	So to destroy the bloodline so then humanity could never produce the perfect bloodline to bring in the Savior on the earth.
	So there's a bunch of things, but when I talk to these demons, guys, every person, every single person that's confronted a demon, that was legit, right?
	They all demons have to tell you the truth.
	They will tell you they are the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim.
	I mean, the fallen angels.
	The fallen angels are their fathers.
	And they were born from the daughters of man.
	And when they died from the flood and afterwards, they became disembodied spirits.
	And it's all confirmed in all the texts as well.
	That what we call demons today.
	So that's exactly what they are.
	It's not if they are, maybe they are, or they could be.
	No, exactly what they are.
	It's not ifs, ands, buts about it.
	And they are exactly what they are.
	And I don't suggest anybody talking to a demon.
	And this couldn't have not come in.
	And I believe God does things for a purpose and reveals at certain times for certain applicable times and all that, and which this could not come any better time for this kind of broadcast.
	Yeah.
	And then I rebuke the demon afterwards.
	But the information this demon spilled tells me it was thousands of years old.
	It's watched all my relatives grow up, everything about them.
	And this thing, I mean, they told you the truth.
	And yeah, guys, anybody, you can go look at testimonies, people that don't even know me, all over the world that actually had conversations with these demons, they'll tell you verbatim for what I said.
	You can't get around this.
	I mean, I know whatever kind of thing you're going through, you're looking this word up, it doesn't mean any of that.
	Our Heavenly Father is a spiritual light being.
	When Moses seen him, when all the apostles seen him in the spirit form, it was light.
	It was a beautiful light and burning bush and all that stuff.
	God himself, Jesus, is a spiritual being.
	You know what I mean?
	He is, it's so beautiful.
	It's a beautiful light.
	He's not a lizard.
	You know what I mean?
	It's ridiculous.
	All that is complete fallacy.
	Everything you say to brother.
	Now, I love you, man, but everything you said was a complete fallacy.
	100%.
	And, you know, when you, here's the thing, Jim, you've got a good heart, right?
	You've got a good mind for knowledge and all that stuff.
	I'll agree with you on that, right?
	But like I tell the people, even scholars out there, if you do not read the Bible with the power of the Holy Spirit, you will never in your, I don't care how smart you are, you will never understand, even the best scholars in the world.
	If they don't have the power of the Holy Spirit in them, they will never, ever even begin to grasp the spiritual applications of the Bible.
	And how can I explain that?
	You cannot explain any of this with the carnal mind.
	It takes the spiritual mind through the Holy Spirit.
	Paul said that.
	It has to be written upon your heart by the Holy Spirit when you're inwards there.
	You know what I mean?
	So when I would suggest you, like John said, go read the scriptures again, all right?
	But first, pray, pray for the Holy Spirit to reveal this information to you.
	And I'm telling you, and I'll just say Genesis chapter one, for example, I read a million times.
	The first time when I prayed for the Holy Spirit, it was reading it for the first time.
	I've seen everything that just come out like the woodwork.
	I never in my imagination thought I would say.
	This Bible is a spiritual application.
	It's not a textbook in the academia.
	You cannot learn the Bible through academia.
	You can't.
	You can't and you won't.
	You will never understand it.
	Even the best scholars in the world, unless you have the power of the Holy Spirit.
	That's it.
	You know, bottom line.
	And I would suggest you to go do that.
	Go call upon the Holy Spirit to give you that insight, and you will see for yourself, brother.
	That's all I have to say.
	I know what you're saying.
	Do you want me to respond to it?
	Look, I love you guys.
	I'm a constitutional American.
	But kind of respond, do you want me to respond to that?
	I didn't know I had, I didn't gave my, I had it.
	I had a thoughtful, like, it's kind of thoughtful.
	A end speech, but I used to have dream.
	paralysis, sleep paralysis.
	Well, not a lot, but I've had it a couple of times.
	When I was right there with you, I was shredding at all the cool churches.
	I was a car player in Texas and women throwing themselves in hot tub pool parties and rooftops and blonde smoke shows.
	I get it.
	I was into that.
	I was getting these things where this thing cut like I never got it since I did.
	It never happened since I broke out of this.
	And everyone's going to disagree with me on this, but I want you to just think about something.
	The spirit that you're ingesting, that is the spirit that has all these spirits in it.
	If you think about it like a cloud of information of people's ancient information in the cloud that our spirits are saved in, or the data and info are saved in.
	When you tap into this, this thing is like, why do you think Jesus said he put spirits in the pigs and they and they sang on Jesus, hold on, time out.
	Jesus never said that.
	Let me time out.
	Time out.
	Time out.
	Hold on.
	Jesus never said that.
	He allowed the demons to go into the spirit.
	Jim, hold on.
	Stop.
	What a poison, man.
	So listen, Jesus never said that.
	Okay.
	He, those are demons that he allowed to go into the swine because the swine was drawn up.
	But anyway, if you want to stay on for a little bit more, that's cool.
	But John, I know you're tired, man.
	So if you want to promote the SpiracyCon, I got the thing up on the screen here.
	If you want to do that, you look tired, brother.
	And I know you were on earlier.
	So honestly, I honestly, I just feel that there's just so much that I would, I really, Jim, I would pray.
	I'm going to pray for you, man, dude.
	I'm going to pray for you because there's a lot of bitterness that I feel when you speak.
	And I think that, you know, I'm no psychologist.
	I'm nothing like that.
	But I would say that once you can come to terms that you are not God and that you don't know what's true about everything, you don't know, you really don't have your life under control.
	Once you can realize that, that's what had to happen to me.
	I had to realize that I'm not right.
	I'm not all-knowing and all-powerful.
	And God does know better for what's for my life.
	And there's peace in that.
	You know, there's peace in that.
	And I'm going to pray that I'm going to pray that you find peace.
	And instead of promoting the conference, Dan, I'll let you do that.
	I'm just going to pray right now.
	Father, I pray for all that are listening right now.
	I pray for Jim.
	I pray for each one of us that you reveal the truth to us and you reveal to us your peace, the fruits of the spirit that you speak about.
	Give us the fruits of the spirit.
	Love, joy, peace, happiness, long suffering, all of those things that we can feel and that we can know that you are God and that you are good and that you're not evil and that you're not here to hurt us and kill us, that you're here to uplift us and allow us to live eternally in Jesus' name.
	Amen.
	Amen.
	Thank you, Dan.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Jim.
	It was good talking to you.
	All right, guys.
	So, yeah, it's a good debate, whatever the case.
	Yeah, and I don't know how people feel about debates, whatever.
	Sometimes they're good, sometimes they're not.
	I mean, but I think it's always good in ways to keep knowledge fresh and everything else.
	And, you know, you also keep, you know, top of the word and stuff.
	So, you know, the whole thing is, Jim, like you said, we're not blaming you, not calling you dumb or anything like that.
	But it's the Bible has, because the people I argue with the most is fellow Christians.
	Right?
	That's why I argue with the most with these people who call themselves scholars who rip the spirituality of the Bible, who rip the supernatural out because they learn the Bible through academia.
	And you went down the academia route, obviously, to do this, which you did today.
	But you cannot embrace, you can't not even begin to acknowledge anything in the Bible for what it is without the Holy Spirit.
	And that's why you were lost all over the place.
	The whole debate, you being honest, yeah, it was supposed to be Nephilim.
	And every segment you had, you were going off other directions, you know what I mean?
	So that's, you know, that's a bottom line on that.
	And John stuck to the subject too.
	But yeah.
	But yeah, but I wanted to cut this off anyway, brother, because I got to get to some Q ⁇ A and stuff.
	I promised somebody, you know, people calls and all that.
	But yeah, I want to thank you for coming on, man.
	Do you want to give a closing statement?
	Oh, you already did.
	Or anything.
	Okay.
	I had one nice written out.
	Do you want me to respond to any of the questions on here?
	I'm unhinged.
	Well, actually, if you want to be free, you should unhinge yourself.
	Actually, technically.
	If you want to go in the chat room and answer them, go for it.
	But I got to move on to calls.
	And I got some things to present.
	Because Alice Crowley has told people that, you know, people dick aliens, the UFOs, Anarchy, whatever.
	He even said that, you know, he communicate with these things.
	And he told them, oh, today they're called angels and demons.
	Tomorrow they're going to be called something else.
	Even the world's top occultists know this stuff.
	So, and I'm not crediting them by all means.
	But yeah, well, thank you, Jim, for coming on, man.
	Okay, thanks.
	God bless.
	All right, guys.
	So, yeah, and the other thing, too, is so hard to bite my tongue because I cannot stand when people blasphemy the Lord.
	So, Jim, you're a good patron, all that, but I can't stand with you.
	I can't.
	So, it's so hard to bite my tongue.
	It really was.
	And that's why I had to eventually intervene.
	And my closing statements, we'll get some phone calls here.
	I mean, we've got to go through this one more time.
	And here's the thing.
	It's not just people like him.
	There's the wackos out there in part of the Christian world that believe in the Setite theory.
	Then there's other ones who believe in other theories with these Anunnakia or fallen angels, whatever the case, the demons, I'm sorry.
	And so they have all these different things, but everybody's got all these different little opinions.
	But the Bible is very clear.
	You don't need to be a scholar to interpret it.
	I mean, it's plain and simple, man.
	Specifying when the men began to multiply on the earth, right?
	They were having sex with the wives and beginning to multiply, right?
	So the fallen angels, right?
	The sons of God.
	And here's the thing.
	Not everybody's a son of God.
	That's the other thing that Jim didn't understand.
	Not everybody's a son of God.
	You have to become a believer in Jesus Christ to become an adopted son of God.
	So the sons of God is talking about here as not humans.
	And the thing is, we're adopted sons of God.
	The angels are his direct sons he created.
	These are the fallen ones that lust after the daughter.
	And he has the thing.
	Oh, angels can't have sex.
	They can't get married.
	That's what a lot of churches say, right?
	But if you read Job and the other parts of the Bible, you'll learn, yes, they can't do that in their abode in heaven.
	You don't have those feelings in there.
	When you're here on the earth, you get temptations, you get all this other stuff.
	That's why when you have people who experience death, right, they literally seen the gates of heaven.
	And they said when they were in heaven, right, they had no fear, nothing like that.
	Not even the thought of anything like it was all gone.
	All your human instincts, your pleasures, and everything gone when they experienced these things.
	Then when they came back here, that's when they got those temptations, right?
	Why do you think the angels, when they were here, they were getting acclimated with the earth here, the temptations?
	Look at Jesus had to endure, right?
	When he, this is the Son of God in the flesh.
	When he was here, he was being tempted.
	He was being in all this stuff.
	He felt pain.
	He felt, but in heaven, he doesn't.
	He allowed himself to feel this stuff so we can experience what we feel have to have sympathy for us.
	So this is what people don't understand, man.
	And they'll go off and argue with different theories.
	The Bible is clear-cut.
	Clear-cut.
	The sons of God.
	Rayas, the sons of God.
	And this is why you got to read the Bible carefully in context.
	Men here and the sons of God.
	Why would he say, why would if they were regular men, why would he say that?
	Just say, oh, the men had daughters.
	No.
	Specifying the men had begun, you multiply on the earth.
	And also, Jim also said that God is like the elite.
	He wants to depopulate the world.
	No, Jim, you missed one thing.
	God says, be fruitful and multiply.
	He told people, go have kids, have marriage.
	You know, the elite, they want to depopulate you.
	They tell you everything opposite what God says.
	And the other, you know, you bring up the big bang theory.
	This was satanic Jesuit stuff.
	It's nothing to do with God-loving people.
	So the sons of God saw the daughters of men and they were fair.
	It's beautiful.
	If you go to Enoch chapter 6, it's verbatim for this.
	And they had children.
	They literally, the Bible says they had sex, came into the daughters of men.
	You know, whatever you want to call it.
	All right.
	And they got pregnant and had kids.
	Clear-cut, just like that.
	You can't at all.
	I don't know where people get that stuff from.
	And I think the worst people, the Sethite theory people, that just so dense.
	There really is.
	And when it comes to this subject, me and Brian, we just, yeah, we go off big time on people.
	But it's so ridiculous.
	And how do you pollute the word of God?
	Like, when you read in context, we read the Holy Spirit, it's clear-cut.
	Clear-cut.
	There's different classes of creation and everything.
	I mean, it's so crazy.
	It really is.
	And again, we'll go over this one more time here, man.
	And that's what the occultists know that they're not aliens.
	They're not Anunnaki or whatever you want to call them or cursed sons of Seth.
	These things came from the fallen angels.
	Every ancient culture says that.
	Every single one.
	The book of Joshua, chapter four, talks about that, right?
	And the book of true beliefs, chapter seven, and also many other chapters talk about these things.
	The book of Enoch, all over the book of Enoch, talks about them.
	Disembodied spirits, they were the children of the fallen angels.
	Not the sons of Seth, not this one or that one.
	The children of the fallen angels.
	Every single one.
	So, I mean, you can't get any more clear-cut than that.
	You can't.
	Greek mythology, what do you think they teach it in school for, guys?
	Because they know they're coming back.
	So they want to pamper it a little bit to make you think they're from other planets or whatever.
	It's crazy what they're doing.
	It really is.
	And so the Greek mythology and all the ancient mythology, and it's not mythology, it's history.
	I don't know why they call it mythology because they want you to know it, but they want to use plausible deniability.
	That's what they do.
	So, and eventually they're going to tell you that this real, right?
	So the Greeks, when they seen these beings, right, these angelic beings, they thought they were gods because they're not from here.
	They thought they were gods.
	They had magnificent powers and strengths.
	So when they chose women, and they, you know, the Greeks called the children the demigods, which were called Nephilim, right?
	And many of them were giant.
	Some were regular size, but they had great abilities.
	Where do you think Stanley and his comic characters get Superman and all these other characters from?
	This from real stuff.
	I'm not saying a guy flew around with a cape, but you get the point.
	And so this comes from real stuff.
	And so the Greeks thought they were, you know, the fallen angels were gods and their children were demigods because they were from the gods and from the daughters of man, which in reality is from the fallen angels, the sons of God, and the daughters of man.
	And most of them given, like I said, men of renown.
	That's what the Bible says right in Genesis 6.
	And they had superbills.
	That's where you get the thing about Hercules from.
	All these different characters in Greek and Roman mythology and all that.
	And the Chinese, too, ancient China, they had these Nephilim beings over there and they had great records of these men of renown.
	Men of renown is somebody high of importance.
	It's somebody that, yeah, like Hercules, for example, right?
	And so, I mean, you've got movies about this stuff, but again, it's not mythology.
	It's real history.
	You know what I mean?
	But the only thing the Greeks got wrong is the fact that the so-called gods, they were nothing but fallen angels.
	And the demigods were Nephilim.
	That's what they were.
	You know what I mean?
	And so when they died, and the book of Enoch explains this vividly, and it's also proven in Matthew and Luke 2, that these disembodied spirits are the spirits of the Nephilim.
	Yeah, I mean, and I know a lot of ministries will confuse, oh, the fallen angels are demons.
	No, they're not even close.
	You got these videos out there that say this stuff.
	No, fallen angels are not demons.
	Demons are not fallen.
	Demons are from the disembodied spirits from their children.
	That's where they come from.
	So we're going to open up some phone calls and all that.
	And I'm sorry I had to end this because I was like biting my tongue the whole time.
	And Jim, you're a great patriot, but please do not disrespect the Lord.
	I mean, that pisses me off.
	And sorry for the language.
	And it's like when somebody, you know, I've seen John getting upset too.
	So it's so hard to bite my tongue.
	But, you know, God is not a lizard.
	And the Bible doesn't even remotely state that.
	It's comparing two different things.
	And all the false religions do this stuff.
	They do.
	They'll take a Bible verse, right, to make it sound like what they're talking about, right?
	So they'll scour through the Bible.
	And oh, there's another verse that sounds like it.
	So they'll take that out of context.
	So, and they'll start doing this, going to another one.
	And then all of a sudden they start stringing together a bunch of verses.
	Then they put it together.
	I mean, you can make it sound like anything you want.
	Churches do it all the time.
	Religions do it all the time.
	Oh, you've got to do this and that.
	Oh, the Bible says here and here, here, frog hopping all over the Bible.
	Then when you, yeah, hold on, time out.
	Take each verse in the context to another, that other verse in context, another verse in context.
	It's tedious.
	But when you do this, you start to see, huh?
	This has nothing at all to do what you're talking about.
	This is not even related to that.
	It's a different scenario.
	And, you know, you got to write down a list and all of a sudden you just untangled that bowl of filthy rope, whatever you want to call it, you know, twine.
	And that's exactly what that's the psychological warfare they do.
	You know what I mean?
	And Jim was like, oh, God's like the elite and all that.
	No, the elite do everything opposite.
	Everything opposite of what God does.
	God says the earth was created fresh.
	They tell you the, you know, the Big Bang garbage that the universe was created first, then the earth.
	The Bible says, no, the earth first, then the stars, the moon, and so on on day four.
	You know what I mean?
	Everything the Bible says, they teach opposite.
	It's not a coincidence.
	Because we are living in a satanic run world.
	Evolution, too.
	Oh, yeah, evolution.
	If you believe in evolution in the Bible, you need to get your head checked.
	Because evolution and the Bible does not match at all.
	Not even close.
	It's a complete night and day opposite.
	And it's done that way for a reason.
	And it was not a coincidence that the Jesuits pushed all this garbage.
	And the same thing with the Septite theory, too.
	Same thing with, you know, these people out there always contriving ways to pollute the Bible.
	Always contriving ways to just throw the monkey wrench in the wars of the word of God.
	And they fail all the time.
	Because, and I'm not nobody special.
	I'm just a regular person.
	I'm nobody.
	Like John says, too.
	He's a nobody.
	I'm a nobody.
	That's what we are.
	We're nobodies.
	I'm not so decorated scholar.
	Heck, I can't even speak half the time.
	You know what I mean?
	I stumble words, and I sound like a bubbling fool sometime.
	I admit it.
	I don't care.
	You know what I mean?
	But, you know, that's it.
	That's the way it is.
	And, you know, I'm just blessed that the father would use me as a voice and a platform to be able to get his truth out there.
	Look at Moses.
	He didn't speak well either.
	But it's not the speak.
	It's not the speech.
	It's the speaker.
	You know what I mean?
	It's who God uses to get the information out.
	And I'm just blessed to be able to do that, to see that.
	And I'm just listening to Jim this whole time, and I'm like just shaking my head.
	I'm like, dude, you are way off completely.
	Way out into Pluto somewhere.
	Because nothing at all to do this stuff, man.
	I tell you.
	And I'm just like, I'm worked up right now.
	Yeah.
	So, but thank you guys both for the debate here.
	So we're going to get to phone calls in a minute, but I want to promote this one more time, guys.
	SpiracyCon.
	It's August 22nd, 23rd in Cave City, Kentucky.
	It's going to be awesome, man.
	I can't wait to go there.
	And it's a lot of events out there, too, in Cave City, where the convention center is.
	They got tons of things to do.
	Hotels are decent prices.
	And yeah, it's going to be great.
	So we just got Richie from Boston sign, which me and John Pounders will be on his show this coming Sunday at 7 o'clock.
	Then later at the 8 o'clock, I'm on David Carrico's show.
	We're going to talk about the new Pope and all that.
	So it's FOJAC Sunday night, and I'm going to be on with them.
	So it's going to be a long night for me.
	And I saw Richie from Boston's going to be there.
	David Carrico, Charlie Raymond, Brian, the Milkman, and this guy over here called Dan Batanti, John Pounders, and Jillian Stone, and Travis Carpenter, the son of Scott Carpenter.
	And I've had the honor to have everybody, all these guys on my show, except for Richie.
	Yeah, you know what I mean?
	So I just made contact with Richie, I think, about a few weeks ago when we heard about the SpiracyCon.
	So me and him were Facebook friends.
	And I'm like, wow, it would be a great idea to get Richie in there.
	So I talked to Richie.
	He's like, yeah, I would love to do that.
	So it'd be awesome.
	And I love Richie, too.
	He's like me.
	Me and him are the same.
	Yes, we could use better choices of words sometimes.
	Yes, we goof up and use some bad words sometime.
	We don't mean to do it, but we do.
	It's just a passion.
	And same with him.
	He's just a no-nonsense person.
	He don't care if he's got five people watching or 5,000.
	He's got to tell you exactly how it is.
	And that's how I am.
	And I guess that's why I don't have 100,000 subscribers because people don't like to be told.
	But my job here is not to be a showman.
	My job here is not to be out to get a million subscribers.
	I would love to have a million, don't get me wrong, but whatever.
	You know what I mean?
	I'm going to tell the truth how it is.
	I'm not going to bow to no political correctness.
	And at times I'm going to use some foul language.
	And I don't mean to do that.
	And I apologize.
	But that's just who I am.
	And, you know, what do you think the apostles?
	You think they all talked intellectually?
	You know what I mean?
	No, not at all.
	They were fishermen.
	You know what I mean?
	So if you think they talked with a clean mouth, you got another thing coming.
	And I'm not saying not at all making excuses for the foul language.
	I'm just saying, you know.
	But we've got these great speakers coming up, guys.
	And these people are just real.
	That's what we are.
	We're just real people.
	We don't have mega ministry things and millions of dollars and all that stuff.
	And we'll just try to get the word of God out.
	That's all we're trying to do.
	So let's get to some phone calls, guys.
	And speaking of that, we do have, if you guys want to donate to the broadcast here, it helps with the ministry.
	And also it's going to help me pay for my expenses to get out to Kentucky.
	I'm trying to save up money to get out there because I do have a family and we got a lot of bills to cover.
	So I am trying to raise money for this Kentucky thing and also pay the rent here in the studio and all that.
	So if you guys want to contribute financially, you're more than welcome.
	The links in the chat room and also in the description.
	But we ask everybody here to contribute with your prayers.
	That's number one before anything.
	So let's get into the chat here and let's get some phone calls going.
	And so who's going to be the first to call?
	So thank you all for participating in that debate.
	I mean, yeah, I'm sorry.
	The poll here.
	So 93% of people agree it's fallen angels.
	Oh, yeah, because exactly what they are.
	You know what I mean?
	They are the fathers of Nephilim, plain and simple.
	And it's crazy how people just don't see this stuff.
	You know what I mean?
	Here we go.
	Hey, what's up, sister?
	Hey, Dan.
	Good evening.
	Hey, how are you?
	Fine.
	Tonight's show has made me so thankful that I have been a child of our Most High since I was a child.
	Because the discernment this man was preaching tonight, the blasphemy he was doing.
	I just hope this man does not lead people down the right, wrong path of righteousness.
	So it just was very discerning to hear this gentleman that has taken and twisted the word of our most high and interpreted his own way of looking at things.
	And thank you for preaching the truth, you and John, and being biblical-based.
	Oh, the preaching the true word of the most high.
	Because we all filled in the chat that, I don't want to say evil, but the false teaching that the gentleman was trying to push on us tonight.
	So, on behalf of myself and the chat, we want to thank you for you and John for having strong spirits in the most high and standing up strong for the word of God and setting it straight for everybody tonight.
	All right.
	Thank you, Stephanie.
	The Yami girl, Stephanie.
	You welcome.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And the September Army vet.
	And also, please check your email because I sent you stuff.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I apologize.
	I got to get on my emails more often.
	Sometimes I go a week without it.
	Then I got a thousand emails.
	Y'all definitely checked those this weekend.
	Yeah.
	So just thank you for standing strong in the word of God.
	And I know you got other callers.
	So thank you and God bless.
	You too, sister.
	God bless you.
	Yeah, bye.
	Bye.
	You know, you all should get a paranormal round table to come to the spirits.
	That'd be pretty cool.
	I was a paranormalist for like 20 years and like diehard.
	I'm talking about we had our own legit non-profit organization.
	And we had a charter from the state.
	We worked with the police department a couple of times.
	And, you know, so I was into that stuff deep.
	And, but eventually the Lord led me out of it.
	And to, you know, there's no spirits running around, the demons, you know, plain and simple.
	And everything that was real, what we found, it was definitely, it was, it was all demonic.
	That's, you know, there's no unfinished business.
	People don't come back from the dead.
	And, you know, and even the Christian world here, too, they believe, you know, my father that passed away, or my mother, she's watching over me right now.
	She heard her wings tonight.
	You know, people don't become angels, you know.
	And there's a lot of myths out there.
	That's why we've got to constantly have these spiritual warfare shows because you do not get wings.
	You don't become an angel.
	We're a different class of angels.
	And you can't watch down on your relative or be a guardian angel.
	Oh, my father's my guardian angel.
	No, he's not.
	Your mother's not your guardian angel.
	You know what I mean?
	And I'm just being aware of what the Bible says.
	Know the dead know nothing, and they're either in hell or faces of facts.
	Your dead relatives are either in hell or in paradise, hell waiting for the judgment, and they'll be going lake of fire after that.
	Then, or either, and hopefully, they're all in paradise waiting for the resurrection.
	So, that's exactly what they are.
	You know what I mean?
	And these mediums take advantage of people's losses.
	I mean, we do this, we cover this stuff all the time.
	Reading the comments here.
	So, anybody wants to call in?
	And it's weird because we usually get like 15 phone calls right off the bat.
	So, we got 200 plus people in the chat room.
	So, guys, don't be afraid.
	Give us a call.
	And if you do call and it gets denied, just hold on.
	I'll call you back.
	I got a caller ID because if we're on the phone, somebody obviously can't answer you.
	So, yeah, won't be much longer to the resurrection.
	Yeah, I hope that'll be awesome.
	But the thing is, here's the thing: we all say the same thing, and it's like we long for that, right?
	And the scoffers will use that against us.
	Oh, where is the promise?
	So, who's coming, you know, to mock us and all that stuff?
	But the thing is, when it happens, it happens.
	It's done.
	You know, it doesn't matter how long it's going to take.
	When it's done, it's done, you know.
	It's awesome.
	So, 407, you're on the air with your name.
	Hey, Dan.
	Hey, how are you?
	Hey, this is Brian in the chat.
	Brian Norman.
	Hey, what's up, brother?
	Hey, I just want to say it was a great show tonight.
	I want to say what's up to everybody's chat.
	God bless everybody.
	I want to say we appreciate the gentleman coming on and sharing his point of view.
	Even though I don't agree with everything he said, it really showed spiritual discernment with the folks in the chat.
	And I want to say big ups to everyone for that.
	And that's all I want to say.
	I want to say God bless everyone and keep up the good work.
	You too, brother.
	And I appreciate it.
	Hey, I'm a little nervous.
	I really got a lot more to say, but I don't want to take any more time.
	But I just want to say, God bless everyone and keep up the good work and keep up with the gift fight.
	You guys are awesome.
	Thank you for the call, brother.
	All right.
	All right.
	God bless everyone.
	Big up.
	Hey, Texas Hots, what is up, brother?
	What's going on there, man?
	Not much.
	Thanks for the call, man.
	Yeah, pretty interesting show.
	I feel sorry for that guy, you know, in a way, because somewhere along the line, he was misled.
	He really doesn't even get the basics.
	Genesis 1-1 says the world was created.
	And then in Genesis 1-2, it was null and void, you know, just not even a form.
	But we don't know how long Genesis 1-1 was or what took place there.
	But we do know this for sure.
	God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit were part of that world.
	And I think more likely Satan was there with all those other angels.
	And that's, you know, most likely where sin really began right there.
	Because that's why that world was destroyed.
	Yep.
	And then we started over with creation again.
	And, you know, Satan came right back in and wanted to stir the pot again.
	And this is where we're at now.
	But, you know, God knew that was going to happen, you know.
	But as far as what his contention on everybody's a God, you know, type deal.
	New age crush.
	And he went in there and on the Nephilim story.
	From what I gather, he was trying to say was there were men created to work or were in the garden besides Adam.
	And every man that was plucked out of there, thrown out of the garden, somehow those men were different from the men that were born outside the garden.
	This is the take I was getting: that men inside the garden had some special fruit they may ate that made them into gods or whatever.
	But once they got kicked out, you know, maybe their magic star dust was gone and they became regular men.
	That's where he's kind of not believing in angels meeting with the daughters of men.
	Yeah, he was kind of going down the new age road.
	Yeah, because you explained it pretty clearly that the Bible talks about men, sons of God, and daughters of men.
	Three different entities there.
	But I think what he wants to do is put the Nephilim as they were human men, but with, you know, extra spice in their soul or whatever.
	But when they got kicked out and they made it with the daughters of men, that's how the Nephilim come apart.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	Like you said, he was like all over the page and stuff.
	But, you know, this is an opportunity to pray for a guy.
	I mean, I tried chatting him up there in the chat when he came on there and stuff, but he pulled that old, you know, basically he doesn't want to believe what the Bible says.
	He wants to believe that somehow he's a God, I guess.
	And that's the problem with people when they read the Bible without the Holy Spirit.
	And I was guilty of that, too.
	I didn't understand until the Holy Spirit, you know, started showing me this stuff.
	And my car, we would never understand that.
	You know, the Holy Spirit does that great for us, you know.
	Kind of almost just wanted to say, you know, hey, I'll have this discussion with you, but first let's just pray and have the Holy Spirit enter both our hearts to chase away all the evil stuff.
	And then if you're going to reject what the Holy Ghost is bringing you knowledge of, instantly, I hope you just start peeing into your pants uncontrollably.
	Yeah.
	And then you'll witness the truth at hand.
	Anyways, great show, Dan.
	Yeah, thank you.
	I was glad to be a participant, but that poor guy needs a lot more intervention with Holy Spirit.
	He needs to let the Lord in his heart.
	He's got too much human rationalization and ego going there.
	So, anyways, talk to you later.
	Yeah, God bless you, brother.
	Thank you.
	God bless you.
	Brother Craig up next.
	And yeah, and somebody asked about my demon.
	So I'll get to that after I get done with Craig.
	By the time you man, once in a while, I'll get spiritual encounters, either from something good or something bad.
	You know what I mean?
	And it's all God's will, though.
	He hasn't done.
	Even with demons, God will let this happen to you for his purposes.
	So when the demon comes up to you, he tells you, and it's weird.
	It's like, how do you make that up?
	Especially when he gives you something applicable for that certain time.
	Like when I pray next week, I have no clue what I'm going to talk about next week.
	Next Friday, no clue at all.
	I don't care.
	It's not bothering me.
	Come this weekend, whatever, the Holy Spirit's going to say, bam, slap it in my head.
	This is what you're going to be talking about.
	Because, you know, for a while, I was like, oh, man, how do I keep up with content?
	Was a lot of content anyway, but the Holy Spirit slams in my head this week to be talking about and gives me the information when it's applicable.
	Now in his time, you know what I mean?
	And it's amazing how that works.
	It's always when a certain subject comes up, this will come in play for me.
	This will come in my way for me to do this, which is applicable to what's coming up next, you know?
	So, Brother Swamplight, what's up, man?
	Shalom.
	Shalom, brother.
	I figured I'd be on the wait list or whatever, but I guess I'm behind on the stream.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Oh, sorry.
	I was going to call Craig Nixon.
	But yeah, go for it, brother.
	Hey, if you need to call him and then put me back on the end or whatever, that's cool.
	Oh, no, I don't.
	I don't want to butt in front of anyone.
	You know what I'm saying?
	That's all right.
	I mean, he's cool.
	All right.
	All right.
	Man, I just had a couple, a couple scriptures here.
	Sure.
	Kind of, you know, just some stuff that I kind of went to while I was listening to this debate or whatever.
	It's kind of confusing.
	You mind if I read a couple scriptures.
	All right.
	Psalm 53.
	The fool has said in his heart, there is no God.
	Corrupt are they, and hath done abomination and has done abominable iniquity.
	There is none that doeth good.
	The fool says this.
	God looked down from heaven upon the children of men to see if there were any that did, that did understand and that did seek God.
	Every one of them is gone back.
	They are all together become filthy.
	There is none that doeth good.
	No, not one.
	Hath the workers of iniquity no knowledge who eat up my people as they eat bread?
	They have not called upon God.
	There were they in fear where no fear was, for God hath scattered the bones of him that encompassed against thee.
	Thou hast put them to shame because God hath despised them.
	Okay.
	That's kind of a, you know, God's not happy there at that point when he was looking.
	But the workers of iniquity don't see truth where it is.
	You know, they have fear where there is no fear.
	So and then, like why, all right, in 1 Peter 2.
	Yeah, 1 Peter 2.
	Wherefore laying aside all malice and all God, this is, you know, the me kind of rallying, just reading this to kind of rally if anyone had any doubt.
	I don't think this really shook anyone with any doubt or whatever, but to clarify, wherefore laying aside all malice and all guile and hypocrisies and envies and evil speakings, as newborn babes desire the sincere milk of the word that ye may grow thereby.
	If so, be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious, to whom coming as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God and precious, ye also, as lively stones, this is a built-up spiritual house and holy priesthood to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
	Wherefore also it contained in the scripture, behold, I lay in sign a chief cornerstone.
	This is Jesus, elect, precious, that he that believeth on him shall not be confounded, like this was, the 50 chaff-like questions or whatever, the barrage of confusion.
	No one's confounded by that.
	Back to the word, to Jesus, through the Holy Spirit.
	These things are easily understood.
	They're plain.
	Unto you, therefore, which believe, he is precious, but unto them which be disobedient, right?
	The stone which the builders disallow, the same is made the head of the corner and a stone of stumbling.
	This is to people that do not believe, do not put the trust in Yeshua.
	They can read this, and it's a stone of stumbling, if they even understand it.
	Verse 8, and a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient, whereunto also they were appointed.
	Last one, but ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood and holy nation, a peculiar people, that ye should shoe forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.
	I go on, but I'll do what I always, you know.
	I know it's always Peter, man, or that's like half the time.
	I'm, you know, go back to Peter, it seems like, but it's the answer to me to a lot of what was going on, the kind of the confusion there or whatever.
	Yeah.
	Everyone listening, you're the brothers and sisters in the priesthood.
	That's it.
	Be encouraged.
	I love y'all.
	Love you too, brother.
	And thank you for the watching versus shalom.
	Yeah, man.
	Shalom.
	Okay, well, I don't know what happened.
	That happened two weeks ago, too.
	Gabe tried calling, and it didn't even ring in.
	But he is on the call, Adila.
	So I'll call you.
	And he was ahead of you, Craig.
	So I'll call Gabe, then I'll give you a call.
	Woo!
	What up, Gabe?
	Going on, brother.
	Hey, what up, brother Dan?
	How you doing today?
	I'm pretty good.
	Awesome.
	Awesome.
	So I just got a prayer here.
	Denouncing the occult.
	You know, and, you know, that one's for Jim there.
	Oh, oh, Jimbo.
	So I'm going to change it from singular to plural form there.
	So bear with me there.
	Love you, everybody.
	Love you, chat.
	Love you, Dan.
	God bless everybody.
	And here we go.
	Heavenly Father, in the name of your only begotten Son, Jesus Christ, we denounce Satan and all his works, all forms of witchcraft, the use of divination, the practice of sorcery, dealing with mediums, channeling with spirit guides, the Ouija board, astrology, Reiki, hypnosis, automatic writing, horoscopes, numerology, all types of fortune-telling, palm readings, levitation, and anything else associated with the occult for Satan.
	We denounce all of them in the name of Jesus Christ who came in the flesh.
	And by the peace of his cross, his blood, and his resurrection, we break their hold over our lives.
	We confess all these sins before you and ask you to cleanse and forgive us.
	We ask you, Lord Jesus, to enter our hearts and create in us the kind of person, people you have intended us to be.
	We ask you to send forth the gifts of your Holy Spirit to baptize us, just as you baptize your disciples on the day of Pentecost.
	We thank you, Heavenly Father, for the strengthening in our spirit with the power of your Holy Spirit, so that Christ may dwell in our hearts through faith rooted and grounded in love.
	May we be able to comprehend with all the saints in breadth, length, height, and depth of Christ, love which surpasses all understanding in the name of Jesus Christ.
	Amen.
	Amen.
	Thank you, Dan.
	I love those.
	Thank you, friends.
	Lovely chat.
	The powerful YouTube brother.
	You got to bring it strong, baby.
	Have a good night.
	Hey, everybody.
	I ask that y'all pray for me.
	Please, I need a prayer for my dad, Jose Matilda Costa, and my mother, Maria Luisa Costa.
	We're going through some tough spiritual warfare right now.
	Just if y'all can just drop one for us, that'd be amazing.
	My love friends to your parents, man, and your mom and all that.
	Have a great night, guys.
	Have a great night.
	And, guys, I want to drop some civics because one thing I wanted to talk about real quick is the Constitution.
	Jim says we have a right to serve.
	And God, you know, that.
	So I want to drop something like a piece of history here.
	All right.
	So let's see what the First Amendment has to say.
	And I'm going to lay this out.
	And the thing is, a lot of people just don't get it.
	And sure, not all the founding fathers were Christians now.
	But 98% of the people in this country were Christians.
	There was no Catholic Church here at this time.
	There's no Episcopals.
	There was no Muslims.
	There was no any of that stuff at this time in this country's history.
	So, and I come from the state of Rhode Island, Providence, Rhode Island.
	I was born in Providence, Rhode Island, where Christianity was protected.
	And I'm going to get to this in a minute here.
	So the Constitution says, First Amendment, Bill of Rights, I'm sorry, by James Madison, right?
	Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
	Then it goes to free speech and all that.
	So what do they talk about freedom of religion?
	And this goes with the separation of church and state, which people constantly misinterpret.
	Separation of church and state does not, I repeat, it does not keep religion out of government.
	Because if people knew back then, up into the 1900s, this here, okay, this Bible was taught in public schools.
	This was in public schools.
	You learned the Ten Commandments.
	You learned about Jesus Christ in the public schools.
	Now, a little more education on here.
	This just really, oh, man.
	Because you've got all these claims about how our country is established and all this stuff.
	And yeah.
	So in 1647, right, there was a thing called the Old Deluder Satan Act established here.
	And the purpose of this, the very sole purpose of the Old Deluder Satan Act, it was established in Massachusetts colony, right?
	In 1647, the whole point of it was to establish public schools here in America for the sole reason to teach men, women, and children to read and write, to learn the Bible so they would not be deceived by the duckages.
	That's right in the articles, right?
	So where separation of church and state comes from, right?
	What it does, because Britain, when we were here, right, when British was ruling us, they tried to impose the Church of England on us.
	We were Christians.
	We were Puritans or like we're the same, you know, Christians, right?
	So they wanted to impose the Church of England, which is like almost a Catholic-style church, onto us.
	And we're like, no, we're not going to do that.
	And so Roger Williams, he was the founder of Rhode Island.
	He bought this from the Native American, my actual ancestors he bought this land from.
	And he bought the land, and at the time, Rhode Island was half the size.
	He named the capital Providence.
	Providence means in God's care.
	And that's why they used the anchor for the symbol of hope.
	It was in God's care.
	Yeah, so he told all Christians and Puritans like because they were under heavy persecution by the British, you are free to, if you come to Renown, move to Renown, you are safe.
	This is a safe haven for Christians.
	So the separation of church and state was established off this very event.
	So again, people misinterpret this all the time.
	You know, don't judge by a book because it's covered because it does not mean what you think it means.
	Separation of church and state is to protect Christianity.
	Not to keep it out of the schools, not to keep it out of the government buildings.
	No.
	It's to keep the government out of our Bibles.
	That's what it's for.
	The only reason it's for.
	So don't let these atheistic groups out and all these people that don't know squat about the Constitution.
	That's what it was established for.
	This was the base of the First Amendment.
	So Mr. What's Yeah, the creator of the Bill of Rights here.
	I always get these people so many names.
	James Madison.
	So James Madison was a devoted Christian.
	And if you read his writings, he established the 10 Bill of Rights off the basis of the Ten Commandments.
	That's what he established it off of.
	To give us individual, guidedly specified God-given rights.
	That's what they're for.
	God-given rights for us to have free speech, to be children of God without persecution.
	And at the time, religious freedom was only Christianity.
	There was no, again, there was none of these other religions at the time.
	Not even Catholics were here.
	Freedom of religion simply meant for us to be Christians.
	And this is why, even to this very day, to this very day, there's a prayer to God, a Christian prayer to God, in every congressional meeting from that, for hundreds of years.
	And for hundreds of years, the Bible is taught in public schools.
	And here's the other thing, too.
	The first 120 colleges and universities established here in America, guess what?
	They were teaching Christian Judeo-principles.
	That's doctrine.
	Harvard University, that's why the original logo had a Bible on its cover.
	They were all teaching biblical statue education.
	You know, you learn other courses like math and all that stuff, but it was a biblical-based system.
	Now, you wouldn't know any of this today because when we went to school, when I went to school, they were just taking prayer out of school at the time.
	Now, today, nobody even knows any of this stuff.
	I got a book over here somewhere that's called The Freedom Documents.
	It was by Pastor Chuck Schoen, no, Chuck Baldwin.
	He ran for president years ago, and he laid it all down perfectly.
	I'm going to do a whole show on this because you get all these people out there saying, oh, this and that, the Freemasons and all that.
	Yeah, they had a lot to do with it, but also there were two sides of the coin that established this country.
	And yeah, most people in this country were God-loving Christians.
	God-fearing, loving Christians.
	And, you know, you can't say that about some of the founder fathers, like Benjamin Franklin.
	Yeah, he was far from a Christian.
	But yeah, about the basis of the Constitution established under God.
	Then I was, let me get this quote up real quick.
	One of our presidents.
	Where is it?
	The quote.
	I had that up here.
	president all right so it's not i can't find it All right.
	So Andrew Jackson, right?
	So President Andrew Jackson, right, when somebody asked him about the Bible, he said that Bible is a rock in which this Republic rests.
	So this is a whole different world, guys.
	You would not, in today's world, you would not know any of this stuff.
	You get told we're a democracy.
	We're not a democracy.
	We never were.
	And in fact, you won't find the word democracy in the Declaration of Independence, in the Bill of Rights, in the Constitution, or the federalist papers.
	We are a republic.
	One nation under God in this republic, plain and simple.
	That's what it is.
	And you can string up tons of Christian quotes from the Founding Fathers.
	Not all of them, but most of the general ones.
	Even George Washington.
	And a lot of people all the time misinterpret George Washington.
	You know what I mean?
	And George Washington, if you read his documents, everybody had a we call it a log back then, you know, a journal.
	His own offices, they said every time he made a major decision when he was a general, he went into his prayer tent, he went into his tent, I'm sorry, and prayed.
	Prayed to God for wisdom to make his decision.
	Same thing when he got into office.
	You know what I mean?
	And, you know, nobody's perfect, of course, but a lot of these guys did just that.
	And this nation was generally based on fundamental principles of the Bible.
	That's why these, you know, it's not a coincidence, the Ten Commandments and the Ten Bill of Rights.
	You know what I mean?
	And it's a bill of rights are set above the reach of government.
	Government can't touch it.
	And that's why they try to attack gun rights.
	They try to attack our religious rights the last couple of years, right?
	Yeah.
	They can't do that.
	Not even Congress, the courts, or the president could even touch the bill of rights.
	It's set above their reach.
	Same thing with the Ten Commandments.
	The Ten Commandments are the supreme law of the land.
	So regardless what you say, Jim, you said the Constitution.
	No, the Ten Commandments come first, then the Constitution.
	And if you go back and read all the stuff on these founders and all that, they'll tell you the same thing.
	The Ten Commandments were at every state capital across this country.
	Every state capital.
	Until the atheists started taking them down in the 80s and all that stuff.
	And you would know that today.
	Ten Commandments were engraved in the schools.
	All public schools, not a few.
	Every public school taught the Ten Commandments.
	Few dispensationalists who out there who say they don't apply to us.
	Yeah, they do.
	Every church taught the Ten Commandments.
	Every school taught the Ten Commandments.
	Every college taught the Ten Commandments.
	They were engraved in stone on every capital across this country.
	At the time, what the states were at the time.
	This country was well established under Christian Judeo principles.
	That it's right in their own writings.
	But again, you would not know that today.
	Now you live in a country that godless people, they got these Babylonian statues over D.C. now, and it's horrendous.
	And it's crazy.
	That's why D.C. is his own entity.
	A lot of people don't understand.
	Washington, D.C. is not part of the United States.
	It's the same people who own the Vatican, the District of Columbia.
	It's a Colombian faction.
	Not from the country, but the Illuminati.
	Big difference.
	Yeah.
	And yeah, the Constitution is the 10 Bill of Rights.
	We know we got more than that.
	We got like 26 amendments, 27 amendments.
	The first 10 are called the Bill of Rights.
	They are God-given inalienable rights as specified by James Madison.
	God-given.
	So you have a right to defend yourself.
	You have a right to be a Christian without persecution.
	And a gummy can't do dilly squat about it.
	And even though they try it all the time.
	Both Republicans and Democrats the same way.
	They attack your civil liberties.
	And this way, you can't be divided.
	You know what I mean?
	We need to stay in the middle.
	Jesus says, straight narrows the way, not the right of the left.
	I mean, plain and simple.
	So, yeah.
	All right.
	So let's get to the phone calls.
	And I just want to straighten that out because I hate when people misinterpret the Constitution and things.
	People don't know this stuff because the schools, you wouldn't even know this stuff happened in this country.
	You wouldn't even know back just in the 1800s, early 1900s.
	Public schools had the Bible in them.
	You wouldn't know that.
	Oh, separation of church and state.
	Do you know what that means before you spot it out?
	I hate when people do that.
	Oh, no, I don't want the Bible in school.
	And the recent talks they're putting Bibles back in schools.
	So they had the headlines, Bible to be put in school.
	Oh, that's a violation of church and state.
	No, it's not.
	Church and state actually protected that.
	And it's not what putting Bibles in schools.
	We're putting Bibles back in schools.
	They were in schools for hundreds of years.
	And it's just like, you know, people just talk out of their rare ends.
	And that's why they took civics out of schools.
	Because civics confirms all this.
	You know what I mean?
	To be a God-loving American citizen.
	You know what I mean?
	If you look at the people who fought the British, the British was the best army in the world.
	The strongest, most armed, most powerful army in the world, right?
	What do you think defeated them?
	We were just a bunch of ragtag bunch of people, storekeepers, clerks, pastors, regular people that took up arms and defended ourselves.
	And every one of them, you read their doctrines and everything else, everyone will tell you that they knew they were outnumbered, but they had the spirit of God in them.
	And George Washington quoted about that, which separates the American people from anybody else in the world, is that they would rather die in their feet than live on these.
	You know what I mean?
	And the people had that spirit of God in them.
	That's what gave them the inspiration.
	Look at what happened when the Stars of Anglo-Banner was written by Francis Scott Keyes.
	They were bombing Fort McHenry, and he was a lawyer negotiator for us.
	He went over on a British ship, the command ship, to negotiate for the release of some prisoners.
	And they told him, you tell them the fort there, go tell them to lower that flag, and that will be a sign of surrender, and we'll release your prisoners.
	And there'll be no harm.
	They had tons of ships, dozens of ships, ready to bomb the heck out of that place.
	And so he let them know, and they said, no, we're not surrendering.
	They would not lower that flag.
	And at the whole time, when this they started bombarding all night long, bombarding Fort McKenna, Manry there, just bombarding all the people, our people that were in captured in the cells in the ships there, all they would do is praying all night, praying, praying, praying.
	And the flag was still there.
	There are people, dead bodies, hundreds of dead bodies all over the place.
	And people holding that flag up because they knew what that flag meant.
	It's not just sight of our country, but the spirit of God to say, we're not going to relinquish what God's given us.
	God gave us this land.
	You know what I mean?
	People have that spirit in them, and people forget this stuff.
	They don't talk about this no more.
	And, you know, it's ridiculous.
	And we need to get that spirit back.
	You know, the same spirit.
	And here's the thing, too.
	You think any of the stuff would be going on right now, these Republicans, these Democrats running this country to hell?
	No.
	150 years ago, these people would overthrow this country easily.
	They would go to every church out there, every barroom, wherever, and say, hey, grab your guns.
	We're going to go kick some butt.
	We're going to put an end to this crap.
	And that's what they did.
	And unfortunately, we even live in a country, a bunch of decadent fools out there who, you know, they'll have 500 men standing there in the city, and a couple of punks are beating up on an old lady.
	They keep their heads down on their record instead of going over there and beating the butts.
	And you're helping her.
	We have a bunch of decadent wusses in this country that don't want to do nothing.
	They run their mouths on Facebook and all that, but they do not want to stand up for our liberties and stand up for our God.
	That's why this country is going to the pits of hell, man.
	It really is.
	All right, so hopefully Craig's still awake.
	But that's why we do these shows, guys, to keep this spirit alive, you know, the Holy Spirit in this country, in the hearts of all of us, you know, the hearts of liberty.
	Hello?
	Hey, it's up, Brother Craig.
	Sorry for the late call.
	Oh, that's all right.
	I was enjoying listening to you give some background on the U.S. Constitution.
	Oh, thank you.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, like Mr. Morganti, like, just I had a hard time really following what he was trying to get at.
	But it, but he just kind of Just to not touch on the Nephilim, but maybe just a little bit.
	But, you know, like he was saying the Constitution over the commandments, and like you said, the you know our Constitution, you know, it comes from the Ten Commandments.
	I mean, I love the U.S. Constitution and the Declaration of Independence and even the first document we had, the Articles of Confederation.
	But the word, the Holy Bible is the final say-so, if I can put it like that.
	Without God, you know, there never would have been a nation to begin with.
	Yeah.
	And, yeah, and he was also going on about, Mr. Morgan was going on about reptilians.
	Well, God wasn't a lizard.
	Reptilians came from the Nephilim.
	And that's where we got all these weird creatures from, like Bigfoot and the dog man, Mothman.
	Well, Mothman may have been a fallen angel.
	I don't know.
	But my point is, you know, to his argument that we all come from lizards.
	No, the lizard people or the reptilians came from the Nephilim.
	And that one was kind of tough to listen to for sure.
	God, we were created in his image, so common sense tells you that God looks something like us one way or the other.
	Yeah, like all the founding fathers, you know, were good patriots.
	And yeah, some of them were Freemasons and all that.
	But overall, you know, the colonies, to begin with, were like believers in Christ, you know, like you had pointed out earlier.
	Yeah, and the First Amendment, you know, it gives us the, well, we already have the inalienable rights.
	It's just that the First Amendment states, you know, the Ten The Ten Amendments, you know, it just solidifies what's already our rights.
	If I made sense on that part.
	Yeah, God-given and inaliable rights endowed to us by our Creator.
	That's our Declaration of Independence.
	We got God-given inalienable rights given to us by our Creator.
	It's very clear-cut and awesome stuff, though.
	And that's what inspired James Madison to come up with the Ten Amendments there.
	And there was 1787, then ratified in 17, no, 1789, ratified in 1791, September.
	They ratified it as official Bill of Rights, and it was established above the reach of government.
	You know what I mean?
	Not even the top three branches of the government could touch it.
	And that's why they've been going after the Second Amendment for 200 years, you know, these communists and everything.
	And because they hate the fact that we could defend ourselves.
	They hate the fact that we could pick up our Bibles and it's not a dumb thing they could do about it.
	They hate that fact.
	You know what I mean?
	They want to control every aspect of our life, everything from faith to ability to defend ourselves and every little aspect, even our families.
	And those 10 amendments that they give to us, that was from God, that protects those rights and not even the government could touch.
	Right.
	And like in the Second Amendment, it says the militia.
	Well, what is the militia?
	A group of people.
	Yep, the same.
	It means us, each individual, has a right to own a firearm.
	And the Second Amendment doesn't limit to what we can own either.
	And the First Amendment, going back to that, I mean, you can pretty much say what you want, freedom of speech, even if it's not very good to say.
	Like, if someone says, I'm going to, Craig, I'm going to hit you over the head.
	I'm like, okay, that's your right to say that, but if you try it, I got the Second Amendment to back me up, if you know what I mean.
	That's just an example.
	And we have the right to be secure in our homes.
	And we have a right to not incriminate ourselves in court, if I'm using the right terminology.
	And in the Bible, it's God gives us free will.
	So, I mean, we do have rights.
	Yeah.
	And God affirms that for sure.
	And if this was all right, I'd like to say a prayer for everyone.
	Dear God, in the name of Yeshua, Jesus Christ, I pray for everyone in the chat.
	And I pray that you've helped me do better in collecting my thoughts.
	And pray for Mr. Morgante, and I pray that you help him see the truth and be led by the Holy Spirit.
	And pray for everyone in chat and all the colors.
	And help everyone who's struggling with any kind of sin and help them overcome it.
	And God, help me to be a better person, a better witness, a better believer.
	fall short um i pray that uh you bless brother dan and his ministry And I pray for Brother John Pounders.
	And I pray that Conspiracy Con is SpiracyCon is a success and that a lot of people come.
	And I pray that, God, that you can help me to go to SpiracyCon if it's your will.
	That'd be awesome.
	Yeah.
	And, God, I thank you for everything.
	And I know I stutter a little bit and I can't quite get my sentences together.
	Sometimes my thoughts get go everywhere.
	But I pray in your holy name, Shalom.
	Shalom.
	Thank you, brother.
	God bless you.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	6-1 number, 6-1-4.
	You're on here, what's your name?
	Lorna Half.
	Hi, Lorna.
	How you doing?
	From Australia.
	Oh, hey.
	Not too bad, Dan.
	Pretty good.
	Yeah.
	Sorry to cut you off, Craig, too.
	Listen, another country number, so I know I can't call that.
	So thank you for calling.
	Thank you.
	Okay, Dan.
	How are you doing?
	Yeah, not too bad.
	I just wanted to cut down on what you were talking about earlier when you said about having that experience with the fallen angels or NEFL spirits.
	Yeah, because I've had similar experiences.
	And I know just how, number one, horrific they are and how fearful you can get, but I also can testify to the fact that they do fear God, and particularly Jesus.
	I've wrestled with these spirits my entire life ever since I was a little girl.
	I actually had, like, on my father's side, they go back to, I don't know if you've heard of the Order of the Dragons.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	I'm here.
	Oops.
	Do you see your cut off?
	Oh, I have my thing.
	I'm mute.
	I'm sorry.
	Well, if you want to call back, Sugg.
	I have my microphone on mute.
	I'm like, oh, yeah.
	I'll give you a second if you want.
	Let me see if I can call you back.
	Your call cannot be completed.
	Yeah, it's a long distance.
	Yeah, if you listen, if you want to call back, I have my microphone on mute, so I couldn't respond to you.
	So, Rachel, thank you.
	Dank Daddy 5150 and call from Australia.
	That's cool.
	Yeah.
	So, yeah, please call back so I can hear what else you have to say.
	Yeah, and you talked about the Order of the Dragon and Ancient Order of the Dragon and all that, which is the serpent as well.
	These secret societies go way back.
	And, yeah, satanic as it comes, that's for sure.
	I forgot who that was in the chat room.
	So, yeah, if you're listening, please call back.
	I had my microphone muted.
	So, yeah, it was a cool accent, though, the Australian.
	The land from down under good stuff, man.
	And thank you all for the calls, though.
	And Lona, if you again, please call back, and we'd love to hear from you.
	So, it's just crazy, though, when you get all these, when you look at it all, you know what I mean?
	There's so much confusion out there.
	And we know the Bible says that God is not the author of confusion.
	So, I don't know why people come up and, you know, Jim, you did that.
	So, you turned the Bible into something so simple.
	And you made it sound so confusing because you confused yourself with other things and things that have nothing to do with each other and all that.
	So, the Bible's not confusing.
	If you read it in context, it's simple.
	Hey, sister, sorry about that.
	I have my microphone muted.
	So, when you was trying to respond to you, and I'm like, Yeah, I forgot my mic was muted.
	That's all I think.
	Yeah, so I don't know if you've heard of the Order of the Dragon.
	Yes.
	Yeah, that's my father's side goes back to that.
	So, we have a lot of generations of that.
	My mother was one of the most Christian people, though, so with her help, us children were able to at least know God.
	And even though she read us with the Seventh-day Adventist Church, which I left a long time ago, due to, even though they're wonderful people, I believe that they don't have the full truth, even though they think they do.
	But getting back to it, I've actually fought with these entities from as young as I can remember.
	Sleep paralysis demons.
	There was one that came one night and it had the horns.
	It had an actual head like a sheep with curly horns like a ram.
	And I was paralyzed.
	I couldn't speak or anything.
	It was standing in front of me.
	And in my head, when I get sleep paralysis, because you can't talk or anything, and I'm not always asleep when it happens either.
	I actually start trying to talk in my mind.
	So I just kept struggling to say Jesus in my mind.
	And the more I struggled, I finally ended up being able to scream it out.
	And when I screamed it out, this creature said to me, shoot the bastard, and disappeared.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah, I had sleep paralysis half my life on very deep levels, demonic encounters.
	It was nuts, man.
	And like you did, you know, the only thing that stopped it was, you know, invoking Jesus Christ.
	They're very, very real.
	Yeah.
	And listening to that poor, deluded man that honestly, he's probably searching and he's listening to all the wrong areas.
	You've got to be discerning.
	It's all right to get information from different books or different people or different things, but without the discernment of the Holy Spirit, you're not going to find the truth.
	And I'm just lucky that I know so much based on the fact that I was reading both worlds.
	So I know that doesn't sound lucky because I actually suffered satanic ritual abuse, which was horrific.
	Only one perpetrator went to jail over that.
	And it started when I was six months old.
	And believe me, if people don't realize that those things are true, they definitely are.
	And they do damage you.
	I've spent my whole life thinking I'm not good enough and constantly having to rush when God says that He would have sent His Son and Jesus would have come just to die for me at the end of the day.
	And so I end up having to tell myself on a daily basis that I'm worthy to, no matter what, no matter what things have happened to me.
	And I honestly believe that I keep having these attacks.
	They're not so bad, not as often anymore.
	But I think it's because sometimes you have these attacks if the other side thinks that you are a threat, that you are of God's kingdom, and they try to bring you down.
	They try to put all this on your shoulders till you can't fight anymore.
	But with God's help, you can fight anything and overcome anything.
	So I wish I could talk to you about my story on a longer, like sit and talk to you.
	One day I'm hoping to get over to America to meet all you guys.
	Oh, that'd be awesome.
	You should come to the spirits, Con.
	That'd be awesome.
	I would love so much to do that.
	I'm setting an aim with myself for maybe a year to try and get over there.
	So it would be amazing.
	I just wanted to also quickly say: I know a lot of people, yes, doctors can be bad and everything else, but we also have to understand that doctors, God gave, yes, knowledge comes from the Nephilim to do with medical stuff and that too.
	And a lot of it, like, I agree fully that the governments just want us sick.
	So that's what they try to keep us sick at all times.
	And often the medications they give us have side effects that make you worse than what the actual illness is getting treated for is.
	But sometimes doctors are needed.
	And my eldest daughter is actually a doctor here in Australia, and she's also a Christian, and she's a wonderful, wonderful person.
	And I just want to let people know that God can use doctors for his good as well, just like he can use anyone.
	And sometimes I've found that the best Christians are those that come from the circumstances that both Dan and John Toundis, their testimony, they make some of the best men of God.
	And honestly, I'm just saying that I wish there was more people like you guys that I could fellowship with here in Australia.
	We don't have a lot of the same type of, well, we have people within society that are opening up, but not, we don't have what you guys have a lot, or I haven't found it.
	So I'm actually very alone here.
	So you are my church.
	You are my society.
	You are my place to go to fellowship.
	And I appreciate, I fully appreciate you.
	I try never to miss your shows, Dan, since I found you, which wasn't that long ago, actually.
	Oh, wow.
	But, yeah, even though I've been watching Now You C T V and F O J Radio for a long time, and actually Brother David and Sister Donna, they actually helped me a few years back to do with satanic ritual abuse.
	And they actually sent me there from Victims to Victors book and everything.
	And that was the first step, real step I had in healing.
	So I owe a lot to them, and they're wonderful people of God as well.
	There are some people.
	Yes, there are some people out there that might differ slightly in beliefs that I see as true people of God just on a different part of the path that I hope we all catch up on one day.
	But honestly, I can hardly wait till I can meet you for real one day.
	And I'll just say goodbye now for you so other people have a chance and I understand while it's afternoon here, Saturday afternoon here, Sabbath afternoon in Australia, it's actually late at night on a Friday over there on Gathering.
	Yeah, which time is it over there?
	Well, Brother Dan, God bless you and pray for you.
	What time is it over where you're with your sister?
	Which time is it over there?
	It is two minutes past two on Sabbath afternoon.
	Oh.
	Wow, it's crazy.
	It's midnight here on Eastern time.
	Yes, that's why I'm thinking it's convenient for me to be standing here chatting for ages, but not so much for you guys.
	Oh, Texas Haas and Gabe in the chat room.
	They said to give you their numbers, if you want to call them or they'll call you, whatever, to pray with you and all that.
	That would be amazing.
	Oh, wow.
	All right.
	Could you email me and I'll send you the numbers?
	I will.
	It's our truth radio show.
	Truth Radio Show at Outlook.com.
	Okay.
	Thank you so very much.
	You're welcome.
	And I pray for you and your family for protection and guidance at all kinds, especially a hedge of protection for the work you do.
	Oh, thank you.
	I'm very much needed.
	It's been crazy lately.
	Yes, I see that.
	And thank you so much for standing up for our God tonight.
	Amen.
	Thank you.
	Okay, thank you.
	God bless you, sir.
	You too.
	God bless you too.
	Bye-bye.
	Bye.
	Okay, I'll send her the certain numbers there.
	So, Texas House and what I'll do too, so I guess she said it's okay.
	So, I'll send you guys her number.
	Hang on, one second, guys.
	So, I write these down this way to send them over to you.
	Three, two, one second.
	three two three all right so i'll double check them later yeah Yeah, so a couple things I want to address, too.
	Wait, Jim made some of these claims that, hang on, let me get to these things.
	Oh, it's Bill O'Connor.
	What's up, brother?
	Hey, brother, Jad.
	Yeah, it's up, brother.
	Just closing up the gas station.
	That was a great debate.
	All I can say, at least Jim didn't call us Torhead Terrorists.
	Yeah, it tore heads.
	And the gas station.
	Okay.
	Exit.
	Exit.
	No open.
	They just closed up.
	Yeah.
	That was a great one tonight.
	Another excellent debate.
	Oh, thank you.
	It's been a while.
	It's been over a year since you guys had a debate, huh?
	Yeah, about that.
	Yeah, because he debated me on some of the same stuff with the grasshopper thing.
	It's like, no, he was literally saying that they look like grasshoppers compared to the giants.
	He wasn't calling himselves grasshoppers.
	He just takes these things out of context.
	And, you know, it's crazy.
	But yeah, he wouldn't stay on topic.
	It's just like we're supposed to be able to Nephilim kept going off the topic.
	And then blasphemy, God, I don't like it at all.
	And I know John definitely didn't like it either.
	But yeah, I don't know, man.
	Blizz King thing was a little bit like, huh?
	Yeah.
	Turning God into a lizard.
	If God was a lizard, I think we would be too.
	Forgot the Elohim plurals, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, the Godhead.
	Yeah.
	People don't like to use the word Trinity, but I don't see anything wrong with it.
	It just means three in one.
	Yeah.
	And you know, it's crazy, brother.
	There's just so much confusion out there.
	And I'm just like utterly blessed and humbled to be in this position to give this information out and to help people.
	And it's not me, it's the Holy Spirit.
	You know what I mean?
	I can't even credit me at all.
	It's just the Holy Spirit, the Father, and the Son.
	Just give me the wisdom to, you know, and to me, it's simple.
	And I'm not, you know, a genius or nothing.
	But to me, it's simple because I rely on the Holy Spirit to help me understand it.
	And when you do that, it's like, it's so simple.
	It's really, it really is.
	The most complex things becomes very simple.
	Oh, yeah.
	You got to keep it simple.
	Yeah.
	You can't overly Complicate things.
	The other day I was doing some yard work, right?
	And we had some of these big vines that were like starting to wrap around the trees and suffocating them.
	So, you know, my mother was like, You mind taking them out?
	And I grabbed my machete and I'm chopping away at these vines and all that.
	And for some reason, always come to my mind as Jesus talked about plants and vines and trees and branches.
	And everything made sense then.
	And to me, that vine was just like wife trying to suck, suck, you know, the world trying to suck God from us.
	You know what I mean?
	And then, you know, we got to cut ourselves away from those vines and the weeds and all that.
	And it's just like it was weird because everything made sense.
	And it's like it was a Bible lesson, you know, cutting those vines out.
	Even axe is laid at the roots.
	Yep.
	Everything that doesn't produce good fruit will be cut up.
	Yep.
	We cut down and bundled for the fire.
	Yep.
	Cool.
	Yeah.
	Gotta be past the fruit inspection.
	Yep.
	Amen, bro.
	Brilliant.
	Well, yeah.
	Thank you for the call and thank you for moderating the chat tonight.
	Oh, yeah, no problem.
	I promised somebody I'd sing a couple weeks ago.
	Oh, go for it.
	It's all you guys, brother.
	I wandered so aimless, life filled with sin.
	I wouldn't let my dear Savior in.
	Then Jesus came like a stranger in the night.
	Praise the Lord.
	I saw the light.
	No more darkness, no more night.
	Now I'm so happy, no sorrow inside.
	Praise the Lord.
	I saw the light.
	All right, I'll stop right there before I make Hank Williams roll this grave and say, God bless you, Zeal remnants of it.
	Have a good night and a good Sabbath tomorrow.
	You too, my brother.
	Shabbat Shalom.
	Yeah, have a good shalas.
	Good Sabbath tomorrow.
	Will do, my brother.
	Thank you for everything, man.
	Yeah, have a good night.
	God bless.
	God bless.
	So we got two more callers, and I want to go over this real quick.
	So one of Jim's claims is like he's comparing people to grasshoppers.
	So numbers 1, 13, 33 says, and this is talk about the land that these, you know, they were looking at in the land, all right?
	And they saw giants.
	Claire says, we saw giants, the sons of Anoch, which come of the giants.
	So Claire is saying they were looking at giants, right?
	And we were in our own sight as grasshoppers to they were in their site.
	So I don't know where he gets to say we're, you know, grasshoppers and moths and whatever he's trying to configure.
	No, literally saying he's just using an example.
	That's all he was.
	Use an example comparing us to the giants.
	We look like grasshoppers compared to them.
	He could have said we look like ants compared to them.
	Well, we look like roaches compared to them.
	He's just doing a comparison.
	He's not saying we're grasshoppers or moths or whatever he was trying to say.
	He takes things a whole new level.
	You know what I mean?
	Just saying, hey, they were giants.
	Claire says they were giants.
	That's it.
	And we look like grasshoppers to them.
	So if somebody's a giant, you got to look like a little insect to them.
	You know what I mean?
	That's what that is.
	And the other one was the host of them saying there's more than one God.
	No, because Genesis chapter 1, right, goes into day four.
	We are here with the firm that was created.
	He called it firm and heaven, which people call space, right?
	Later on in day four, let there be lights in the firmament, right?
	And lit up the firmament and to rule over the day and talk about the creation of the sun, moon, and stars, right?
	And all the creation of the heavens, right?
	And so day six goes on, right?
	And the end of day six.
	And thus the heavens and earth were finished.
	So God's just saying, you know, he explained how he created the earth and all this thing stuff in that.
	Then the heavens and all the stuff in it, right?
	So he's just saying, the heavens of the earth were finished and all the host of them.
	So everything that lives in the earth and everything in the heavens.
	That's what that means.
	It doesn't mean they're gods or nothing like that at all.
	Just a host of them.
	The host is the people who live there.
	We're the host of the earth.
	Animals are the host of the earth, right?
	The stars, moon, and sun, and all that, they're the host of the heavens of the firmament.
	That's all it means.
	That's all that means.
	It doesn't mean that, you know, gods or whatever he was trying to say.
	Then on the seventh day, he rested.
	So if I was in the debate, I would have definitely used that.
	But yeah, the debate was supposed to be more Nephilim.
	I had nothing to do with this stuff anyway.
	So let's get to some two more phone calls and we'll call it a night here.
	So I think it was 330 number calling.
	Yeah, we got Sister Max.
	She's up next.
	You're up next.
	You're up next.
	Hey, what's up, 330?
	What's your name?
	Yeah, what's up?
	What do you got?
	Hello?
	Hello?
	Hi, how are you doing?
	What's your name?
	Could you turn the volume down in the background?
	I don't have a remote.
	Oh, it's hot.
	Go ahead.
	How are you?
	Pretty good.
	What's your name?
	How are you?
	Huh?
	How are you?
	Oh, pretty good.
	How are you?
	What's your name?
	I'm sorry.
	Let's say called the wrong number, but they are playing me in the background.
	Sorry about that.
	I want to try calling you back.
	So if you're listening, I had to hang up on you because you got the volume in the background playing.
	It's like causing a loop in the feed, whatever.
	So just turn the volume down and call me.
	And yeah.
	So sorry about that.
	I had to hang up on you.
	So let's call Sister Max up.
	What up, Sister?
	The sky starts falling.
	Let me know, man.
	Let me know.
	Don't leave me down here with these people.
	You're going to join the band with Brother Bill O'Connell.
	I saw the light.
	I'm like on a 30-second delay or something, I guess, because I'm still watching a part where you have one female.
	Like, what happened?
	Yeah, YouTube's like that.
	Because 30-second delay before it goes out.
	Hello?
	Hello?
	I don't know who you are, lady, but I hope you figure out what you're looking for.
	Yeah.
	She was asking me my name.
	So I don't know.
	That might be a prank, too.
	I hope not.
	Yeah, no, I could have sworn I heard your voice in the background.
	Whoever called you watching you.
	Creepy, creepy, creepy people, man.
	Yeah.
	Don't be doing that.
	Don't be creepy.
	Yeah, it's funny though.
	I always laugh at prank calls.
	I remember a couple of years ago when you used to get some badass prank calls.
	Like, they were bad.
	Oh, yeah.
	They were about they were trying you, man.
	All those talk shows from California.
	They they hate me.
	So they always call and you know, try to write articles on me and everything.
	Right.
	Oh, my gosh.
	It's been a while since I watched one of your shows live, like from beginning to end.
	And I'm glad I came.
	Like, Valerie told me, like, there's a link.
	Check it out for me.
	I was like, oh, yeah.
	Where you wet, Valerie?
	Dude, got me hyped, though.
	Like, my stomach already hurts.
	I'm praying for my stomach.
	This dude frustrating me.
	My kids won't go to bed.
	I'm like putting that pressure, trying not to put that frustration on them.
	Like, go to bed.
	This dude don't make no damn sense.
	Yeah.
	It was hard to bite my tongue when I tell you that.
	Mom, I saw you talking.
	I saw you put that thing on mute when you were talking.
	John Pounder has got some.
	He got some patience, though.
	Like, I mean, I know you got patience.
	Like, if you were to sit there and you were really about the business and you were actually debating, I could see you.
	But being like someone sitting and looking, like, man, I was keyboard warrior tonight.
	I could not hold back.
	I was like, what the heck?
	Do I speak English?
	Am I ADD?
	Like, Tottenham of Swamp was like, man, pass them expired SSRIs to me because I think I'm going to have problems after this.
	He's a good guy generally, but I think he's got some issues and personal issues against God for something.
	Because you can see a lot of animosity from him toward God.
	And which I mean, John Bolton, like him blaspheming God like that.
	I'm sure you all didn't either, but yeah, it was a time I was like, all right, this is this is going to end here.
	Yeah, no, when I was listening to him talk, I'm like, man, how do you even touch that?
	Like, okay, it reminded me of that Bible verse, you know, like ever learning but never coming to the truth.
	And it's like, what's the truth?
	Truth is Jesus.
	And he claimed in the very beginning that he supposedly spent thousands of hours studying.
	And it's like, dude, what were you studying?
	Because you didn't, obviously, he missed the main point to everything.
	I mean, he rambled a lot.
	And it was supposed to be on the topic of the Nephilim.
	But everything else he rambled on about, it's like he got the second hand version of the, he got the hoopty part of the truth, truth.
	Like, he got the ghetto hood version of it.
	Yeah.
	Where he's on the trail of something with all these conspiracies and all this and that.
	But it's like, dude, man.
	He's like, he keeps passing go.
	I mean, or whatever.
	Like he just, he's, he just, I don't know.
	He just totally.
	It's a Nebuchadnezzarum check.
	Yeah.
	Then he kind of contradicts, well, actually, you didn't kind of, he did.
	He contradicted himself several times.
	And then he's like, oh, God wants the world depopulated.
	So does the elite.
	So he's trying to compare God to the world elite and they're all part of the same thing.
	But the thing is, God told us to be fruitful and multiply.
	He doesn't say depopulate.
	Right.
	Then up in the comments, he was saying that we created God.
	And I'm like, yo, man.
	What do you do?
	Like, I hung around like five days a week, five, six days a week.
	I'd be at the bar with my dad's band.
	And I know musicians can be kind of thrown off.
	And believe, like, I don't want to like character assassinate him or anything, but I've seen a lot.
	Yeah, it might go hand in hand with what's going on here.
	I'm like, okay, yeah, I don't know what else to say about him.
	He's just so far out in planet morbid or something.
	Yeah, last year when I debated him, you tried to bring up some of the same stuff that we debated about and like the grasshopper thing.
	And he's just clearly saying that we look like grasshoppers compared to them.
	That's all it is.
	You know, and he takes us to a whole new level that he adds things that's not even there.
	You know, it's like, dude, well, that's not what they're talking about.
	You know, we just look small compared to them.
	That's exactly what he's saying.
	You know, he's not saying we were grasshoppers, a moth or whatever.
	A locust, I'm sorry.
	Somehow, grasshoppers turn into locusts, and then assumption would, I don't know, whatever he was trying to say.
	It's like, no, it just means we're small compared to them.
	It's it, you know, like when you see a scrawny little guy trying to puff up to a big guy in the gym, it's like a chihuahua puffing up to a bulldog.
	Does it mean I'm a bulldog or that guy's a chihuahua?
	No, it's just an example, you know.
	And I try to explain that to him, but it's like the Bible has a lot of examples.
	You know what I mean?
	But it's again, it's one of those things that you can't understand the Bible unless you read it in context.
	And also with the Holy Spirit.
	You know, it's exactly.
	If that's the case, then everybody should be convicted that doing dishes is the most important chore.
	Don't forget to clean the inside and outside of them plates and cups and take that mayo and catch up off because that's that's what he's talking about, right?
	He's talking about doing your dishes.
	Yeah.
	So you debate that dude was on your show before?
	Yeah, last year we had a debate and the same thing was all over the place.
	And so it's on my channel here.
	But it went the same way.
	It's like, dude, what are you talking about?
	So we're not talking about that, you know.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And that's what they, you know, a lot of people do too.
	You know, it's just a common tactic.
	And it's like when you'll bring something up and just confuse you, they'll try to throw you to the left or right or a curveball at you.
	And the whole time, it's nothing to do with what we were debating in the first place.
	You know what I mean?
	And it leads into different rabbit holes that, you know, it causes a lot of confusion.
	And it's like, what do we even talk about?
	You know, so I see a lot of people do that stuff.
	But you got to stick to it.
	That's why you need a moderator to stir the ship.
	You know, I was about to say, I was like, that was a tactic.
	Like, I understand confusion could be a tactic, but I was like, what is he even doing?
	There's like nothing there.
	There's like, it, I say, was that even a tactic?
	Because it's like, what was the point?
	To confuse someone to be convinced or convicted into another message or belief system, and there was just nothing there.
	Like, my brain fell out of my booty holes.
	I was lost.
	I was lost.
	But yeah, it was entertaining that it was that much.
	So I'll give it that.
	But it was good to see y'all.
	Good to see you.
	I hope everyone stays blessed.
	Hope to see you at Carrison Con.
	Yeah, yeah, I'll probably show up there with the Prometheus lens crew.
	Who knows?
	I'm still a bit away.
	I think we got something going up here in Dallas, too.
	And it's already May.
	Over June.
	Yeah, June and July coming up.
	I mean, it's going to get bigger.
	We're already in May, and we already got like several key speakers.
	And we're going to have a lot more.
	And I think Richie from Boston's got one of his friends that's pretty good.
	He might be coming to speak to.
	Right.
	I've seen all them posts that y'all are making and Brian.
	It looks like it's going to be a badass event.
	I totally go if I can make it.
	But, yeah, I feel like a little kid.
	I'm getting sleeping.
	My tongue hurts.
	I'll pray for y'all.
	Pray for me.
	If you don't pray for me, I'll still pray for y'all.
	And I'll take you to the last night.
	And love you, sister.
	God bless you.
	Love you too, man.
	Y'all take it easy.
	You too.
	God bless.
	Yeah.
	And thank you guys.
	And I don't know if that person keeps calling.
	I don't know if that's a prank call or not, but I'm all done with calls tonight anyway.
	So I want to thank you for joining us here.
	So we'll do that next week, call back, whatever.
	So I want to promote once again SparacyCon.
	And please, guys, if you want to go, Dick Brian, and then I'm still posting the link to that.
	So that's the link to get the tickets there.
	And so, yeah, please come to SpiracyCon.
	It's going to be awesome.
	August 22nd, 23rd in Cape City, Kentucky at the Convention Center.
	You got Richie from Boston, David Carico, Charlie Raymond, Visual Disturbance Brian, myself, John Pounders, Jillian Stone, and Travis Carpenter.
	And by the way, I just talked to Travis Carpenter.
	Let me see here.
	Travis Carpenter, I just actually messaged him.
	So he, let me see.
	I think he wants, yeah.
	He's definitely coming on the show here.
	So maybe next week.
	So, yeah, that same number keeps calling.
	So yeah, we're going to cut it off tonight.
	Yeah.
	Hang on.
	Let me just.
	You're on here.
	What's your name?
	Hello.
	They hang up.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Prank caller.
	Let me see if I can block this number.
	Yeah.
	It's not let me do it.
	Whatever.
	But yeah, you know, keep prank calling.
	All right, guys.
	Thank you so much.
	And I did want to get to the slides too.
	But yeah, if you need to email me, truthradioshowoutlook.com.
	And I know everybody wants to exchange numbers.
	I wish it was a way to do that.
	You know what I mean?
	Like a private messenger so we can exchange numbers to talk to each other.
	So what I recommend to do is email me your number and tell me who to give to.
	And do that.
	And that's where I could pass it along privately.
	You know what I mean?
	And if you want to send any letters or whatever the case and gifts.
	And well, by the way, I want to read off real quick.
	People who sent letters.
	I'm sorry, guys.
	I'm going to hang on.
	Let me pull this plug here for the radio.
	Hope it doesn't matter for.
	Yep, there goes that.
	I just pulled the plug.
	So, yeah.
	All right.
	Sorry for the interruption, guys.
	So if you want to send any letters, gifts, whatever.
	And the other day I got a nice t-shirt from Gail from Alberta, Canada.
	There's my address there if you want to mail an address.
	A nice letter, and I want to read it next year.
	Next week, I'll do that.
	But Gail sent me this nice t-shirt from Alberta, Canada.
	Also, letters from Tom and Chris from Borgesville, Indiana.
	Constance from Kentucky.
	Greg C from CX Falls, South Dakota.
	And thank you all, guys, for your gifts and your letters and all that.
	And I like to get letters.
	That's awesome.
	So does David and John and Brian.
	It's so cool to read somebody's handwriting letter, you know what I mean, or a typed out letter.
	It's because it's more personal than the email or text, you know.
	But either way, there's my email address there if you want to send anything there.
	And I'll thank you all for the prayers, gifts, and donations, and all that good stuff.
	But we love you, and we'll see you next week.
	And I think we're going to have Mr. Carpenter.
	I'm not sure.
	But I'll let you know during the week, whatever the case is.
	And so God bless Shalom.

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