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Is December 25th Ok? - Spiritual Warfare Friday Live 9pm est

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	Welcome everybody back to Spiritual Warfare Friday.
	I'm your host Dan Badani and Brian Reese.
	We've got a special guest tonight, the one and only David Carrico from fojcradio.com.
	So tonight's broadcast is, is December 25th okay?
	So that's the big question.
	Referring to Christmas, Yule, whatever you want to call it.
	Uh, we got a lot and it's a lot of craziness this year every year we do christmas shows We come out about certain subjects about christmas this year.
	It's insane.
	There's this meme going around This is like mantra if you will this propaganda that I don't know who put this stuff together That is now saying that oh pagans never did this stuff before they robbed it off christians and christians, uh, you know talked about this and Jesus being you know, I'm sorry the early church fathers.
	We're gonna get to the some, you know the stuff like that But it's a lot of stuff.
	We're gonna go through.
	I'm all over the place.
	I forgive me guys So anyway, I want to shake and wake Rio calm for carrying each and all of our shows me Brian David shows and also before its news.com I'm a contributor for them.
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	So I just got over this bad cough I still got a little hacking cough and everything else.
	I wish I had this stuff earlier but anyway before we get going to we got two things number one is a prayer and Also guys take a good look at this picture So, keep in your mind through this whole show, Samarumis, Nimrod, and Tammuz.
	So just keep those three people in your mind, and because that's what it promotes to, this whole entire thing that they call Christmas, Winter Solstice, and all, it's all based around Babylon.
	But for some deluded, condoluted reason, this meme going around by these mainstream Christians out there to say, oh, Christian is not paganism.
	Oh, December 25th is not pagan.
	It's the birth of Jesus Christ.
	And some of the early church founders talked about it.
	Hippolytus, I hope I pronounced this right, of Rome.
	mentioned something that and you know there's a couple we're gonna get to every one of these things to really narrow it down but the thing is Hippolytus was of Rome so of course he's gonna have Roman influence and anybody that knows anything about Rome Rome was always and even to this day pagan as it comes so nothing's ever changed even with the Catholic especially with the Catholic Church nothing's ever changed in Rome so so let's start off with a prayer so Jesus Yeshua Messiah
	we come before you and ask you to forgive us each of us of our individual sins and trespasses transgressions and abominations that we may have committed and We ask you to just renew us, Lord, and pour your blood and anoint us with your blood and just make us pure and protect us all from the forces of evil and protect this platform.
	We are under heavy attack.
	Myself, Brian, David, the guys at Now You See TV, and we ask you to protect our platforms for the sake of your message and protect everybody listening here today.
	We bless them, Lord, and we ask you to give them comfort, people going through pain and suffering, and just give them comfort and healing, and give them inspiration and joy.
	Thanks for having me here always as the co-host.
	you expose the deeds of evil best i can say it in your mighty name we pray amen so welcome brian welcome david how's it going guys it's going good dan thanks for having me here always as the co-host it's nothing but a blessing to be on spiritual warfare friday and tonight david carico the one and only and it's good to see my brothers here in this panel so Oh, uh, John Pound, this might be joining us in about an hour.
	Just want to put that out there.
	I'm sorry.
	Go ahead.
	No, welcome to the panel, David.
	And it's always a pleasure to have you here.
	And especially here on this is December 25th.
	Okay.
	So I'm glad to see you, my friend and check out FOJC Radio Underground Church and the Rumble Channel, FOJC Radio Rumble.
	We've got a lot going on over there.
	And just blessed to be part of the whole ministry here.
	And Brother David, you can take the floor, my friend.
	Take the floor.
	Welcome to this.
	Well, I am very, very glad to be here.
	It's always a joy to be on with Dan and with you.
	And it is Spiritual Warfare Friday, isn't it?
	I mean, it's like there's a, it's the fight that's broke out at the Long Branch Saloon.
	And when they start throwing punches, it doesn't take long to know who's on which side.
	And it is red hot, and I'm just glad to be here and be able to witness the truth of Jesus and to try to bring the truth that sets people free.
	So, just thank you, Dan, for having me on.
	I do appreciate it.
	Absolutely, it's a pleasure.
	This is our annual thing now.
	Three or four years in a row now, I think we've been doing Christmas shows.
	Yeah, we've been doing it for a while.
	It's just like automatic, you know.
	Christmas, Halloween, here we go.
	It's like kind of automatic, already dialed in, you know.
	Yeah, and this year you actually said, oh, we're going to do our annual Christmas show.
	I didn't even have to contact you for that.
	Well, yeah, it's just taken for granted, you know.
	Yeah, and David just coming off his FOJC radio, which he had broadcast about an hour ago.
	So yeah, he's all pumped up.
	He's got the coffee going and and we're gonna respond to guys too.
	We had Pastor Dean Odell on of Dean Odell Ministries.
	Remember the debate with Greg Locke with the Flat Earth and all that.
	So, but you know, even though we stuck up for Pastor Dean Odell, you know, we're not trashing the man, but he made some bad comments basically coming out to say, yeah, it's one thing to say, all right, I want to want on a Christmas.
	I want to do the Christmas tree and all that.
	That's one thing.
	But when you sit there and call people Torah heads, Torah terrorists, that's the same thing that Pastor Greg Locke did to you.
	But now you're doing the same thing to other people who don't agree with you.
	That's wrong.
	You know what I mean?
	And I, me, David, and Brian, you know, we respected Mr. Odell when he was on the show here.
	You know, we're happy to come out with the flat earth stuff, but he's over there.
	You know, again, it's great to have a... I mean, you can have differences.
	We're not gonna execute nobody for that.
	But you sit there and call people Torah heads and Torah terrorists.
	So, if I'm a Torah terrorist, that means Jesus was too.
	Because that's all Jesus did.
	As it is written, taught the what?
	The Torah.
	You know what I mean?
	So, we're all Torah terrorists, I guess.
	And, you know, I don't hold no grudges.
	I mean, whatever the case.
	God bless him.
	But, you know, you just don't do that.
	But, anyway, he's defending Christmas like all the mainstream people are doing now.
	And this whole Christmas deal that December 25th is the birth of Christ and the pagans stole it from us.
	Even though anybody that knows anything about the occult knows darn well that paganism and the occult have been celebrating this holiday for thousands of years even before Christ came.
	You know, this goes back to Babylon and all that ancient Sumerian, all that.
	This is a very significant date in the occult and all levels of the occult as well.
	So, uh, brother Dave, um, you know, I know you've got some stuff to say, go ahead.
	Well, and like Dan said, the way this came about, uh, Dan, it's all Dan's fault.
	Dan did it.
	And when he had, um, Mr. Odilon and, uh, and I called on, I called in and I, I complimented Mr. Oatle.
	For a good broadcast with Dan, and also for his flatters debate, and rightly so!
	Credit where credit is due.
	Did a fantastic job.
	John Pounder's also had some very nice things to say about Mr. Odell's debate with Mr. Locke.
	And right after that, this Christmas video started to make the rounds, and so many people were making comments on it.
	You know, well, look at you guys.
	You're just on with him.
	Look at this.
	We really just felt, and the video was just so over-the-top misleading, we just really felt compelled to give an answer.
	And for any of you that haven't seen it, that aired Thursday night on Now You See TV, John and I on Now You See TV, John Founders, we did that presentation, which was basically Of a polemic against that video, which Mr. Odell put forth the defending December 25th and the Christmas tree and whatever.
	And, um, you know, if this is the hill that, uh, Mr. Odell chooses to stand and fight on, so be it.
	But, uh, Mr. Odell, uh, and you know, I don't go on social media, so I'm spared the anguish of that, but how bad people have passed on to me.
	That Mr. Odell put forth a question, you know, and it's like, well, this is my response, answer this question.
	Do you believe that, and Dan, do you have that quote?
	You can read his words if you have that there, so I won't misquote it.
	He said, do you believe that Christians that celebrate Christmas will go to hell?
	Something like that.
	Yeah, let me grab that real quick.
	Here it is right here.
	Actually text John, right?
	John just sent it.
	Oh yeah, okay.
	So, Mr. Odo says, um... Still waiting for John Pound's answer.
	Do you, John, believe a Christian who celebrates Christmas will lose their salvation and spend eternity in hell?
	A simple yes or no will do.
	And of course John responded, uh, I am not God and I don't make that call.
	I have a conviction that this is wrong and, and you are wrong.
	You know, plain and simple.
	So, you know, and the thing is John never said that.
	You know, none of us ever said it's a salvationist show.
	We don't know.
	You know what I mean?
	And uh, we're not there to make that judgment.
	But the point, what we're trying to do, cause that's the thing is, they'll throw the stuff, that's how they do it, they'll throw words in your mouth.
	To sit there and try to condemn you even before you get started.
	No, nobody ever said that.
	John never said that either.
	And so, we're not questioning the salvation issue.
	We're not the judge, you know what I mean?
	But what we're trying to point out is, yes, this is a pagan holiday.
	Yes, it was originated from paganism.
	Long before, you know, these early church founders came, you know?
	So that's the point we're trying to make.
	And, you know, we're going to get through all this stuff here.
	And sorry to sound a little confusing here, but There's just a lot to digest tonight and a lot of history, a lot of disinformation that's going around now that's trying to condelude things with each other and it's insane.
	But what that was, that's just a gotcha question.
	You know, just like to see reporters ask, they try to trap you into answering a gotcha question and then gotcha, you know, when like you say, nothing was ever said like anything like that.
	I might respond to that question like this.
	And I might say that there might be some other questions that really need to be asked and answered by us all.
	And one of those questions would be, Will Christians that practice pagan customs be judged by God for it?
	Will Christians that practice pagan customs be judged for it?
	I would answer in the affirmative.
	Another question we might want to ask, will ministers that lead Christians into the practice of pagan customs be judged for it?
	And I would again answer in the affirmative.
	We might also ask the question, can we honestly defend and maintain that the Christmas tree isn't pagan?
	I mean, anybody that wants to try to do that, you've got your hands full.
	You know, you have taken on a big task to try to defend the Christmas trees not being painted.
	And this is just, you know, and Mr. Odell is free to defend his position and teach his people what he wants to teach, to put up his tree, but what I cannot do is applaud him for it and to say that he's okay in doing so.
	What we teach and what we believe, we teach that we are to Get everything that we can, that we understand is taken out of our life, that we are to live as close to the Lord as we can to strip ourselves of all paganism and walk in a way that's worthy of the Lord.
	And you know, I didn't do what I, we didn't do out of personal angst.
	We weren't name calling, but we felt it was definitely important for us Not only to give apologetic for what we believe and teach, but also polemic against that, which we feel is very deceptive.
	And I'm very comfortable with it, and we stand by it.
	And it is just obviously the truth of Scripture.
	I mean, when, and that's the good thing about it, even when the Lord brings controversy, That was the good thing about the debate with Mr. Odell and Mr. Locke.
	It brought people to be able to examine that question of Flat Earth.
	And this, if people will just begin to look into these issues, I mean, the least bit, and there's a mountain of information out there, I mean, this is a no-brainer.
	We're talking about things that are pagan, they're wrong, and they're dark.
	They're even, they're demonic.
	That is a very fitting adjective for these things.
	They're the works of darkness.
	They're not the works of light.
	And they're not anything that a child of God needs to be in any way affiliated or associated with.
	Absolutely.
	And so, let me get to the slide here.
	So, I got one right here.
	One of many Bible verses talks about abomination.
	So, pertaining to what David said.
	You know what I mean?
	If you're a teacher or follower of Christ, these are things you should be very careful about doing and actually question these things because, yeah.
	Again, we don't know if this is salvation or not, but however, you bringing these abominations into your home, willingly, you gotta question that.
	I mean, we'll look at what the Lord did.
	How many cities did he destroy over idolatry?
	There's one thing that ticks God off more than anything was idolatry, right?
	In the Old Testament, nothing new was changed.
	He still ticked off, that's why it's the second commandment.
	that you're not supposed to make any engraving images, but Deuteronomy 7, 25, and 26 says, the graven images of the gods, you know, locatie, shall ye burn in the fire, and shall not desire them, the silver and gold that is on them.
	You know, in other words, like even if, you know, don't take the silver or gold either, just burn it and leave it there, and don't take on to thee, unless ye should be snared therein, for it is an abomination to thy Lord God, neither shall you bring an abomination into your house, lest thou be cursed, thing like it, and it shall lest thou be cursed, thing like it, and it shall be utterly, utterly, I'm sorry, and thou shall utterly abhor it, It is a cursed thing, plain and simple.
	So burn the stuff, don't take anything from it, leave it.
	So the other thing too, we want to get to the old verse here, which is a big controversy going on.
	I think number one because of the translation issue.
	Uh, but we could get into that too.
	Uh, but we got the old, uh, Jeremiah 10.
	It says three and four.
	For the customs of the people are vain.
	For one cuts a tree out of the forest.
	Let me get to actually get to the Bible.
	Hang on guys.
	Let me get, um, to the actual Bible verses here.
	What the King James says.
	Because I like to read it directly from the Bible, rather than the meme.
	Because there's a translation thing here, so... Alright, Jeremiah, this is King James Version, right?
	It says, It says, For one cuts a tree out of the forest with the work of the hands of the workmen, with the axe, right?
	They deck it with silver and gold, and they fasten it with nails and hammers, so it doesn't move.
	They are upright as a palm tree, but speak not.
	They must be needs to be born because they cannot go be not afraid of them for they cannot do evil neither Also to do them too good, right?
	So now I want you to take a really look at this reverse here now Most churches today.
	They don't use the King James no more because there's a lot of out those dots and everything else So they'll go to the so-called simpler version like then the trashy NIV Bible and the newer translations right now that Like we say all the time, right?
	New Bibles change important key words that people don't even notice, right?
	So if you notice, this is a new international version, right?
	So again, we'll start with verse 3, right?
	For the practices of people is worthless.
	I'm sorry, let me go to verse 2.
	It says, do not learn the ways of the nations, right?
	The King James says, the heathen.
	Why they change from the heathen to nations?
	Because you got a new believer out there, they're not going to know what that means.
	What does that mean?
	Nations.
	The King James specifies heathen.
	So it is in the Geneva, so it is in the older texts.
	But the newer ones say nations.
	So what does that even mean?
	So anyway, for the practices of people are worthless.
	They cut a tree out of the forest.
	Now here's where they change it again.
	And a craftsman shapes it with a chisel.
	Um, the King James says, no, a workman cuts it with an axe.
	Some people say, well, there's no big difference, uh, an axe and a chisel.
	Well, yeah, there's a picture of an axe and a chisel.
	Tell me there's not a difference.
	There is a big difference.
	It looks like the chisels are the size of a screwdriver, and axes like big like this are even bigger.
	So there's a big difference between the two.
	Both of these things do completely different things.
	One carves things, one cuts it.
	Plain and simple.
	I shouldn't even have to show this picture, but yeah.
	Because people just don't have common sense.
	So, right there.
	Verse 3.
	Talk about a workman with an axe, right?
	King James, I'm sorry, the New NIV Bible says a craftsman, a craftsman and a workman are two different people.
	And a chisel and an axe are two different things.
	So which is it?
	And so of course if they're reading these new translations, yeah, oh, that's not a Christmas tree.
	But if you read the older translations, it clearly says it, and the thing is, yes, back then it wasn't known as a Christmas tree, because if you go thousands of years into paganistic rituals and all that, the pine tree, the symbol of it is venerated through paganism.
	And I don't want to give too much away yet, but you go ahead, David, if you want to elaborate on any of this.
	Well, the scriptures you read were Read Badand Badandi, but he didn't write it.
	Those were the words of the Most High God, and they were very serious words, weren't they?
	And while, you know, the Lord, I think we're all, well, we're all smart enough to know that we are not the judge of anyone, but I cannot say, the Word of God is so clear and so strong, you know, we'll, you know, when you say someone celebrates Christmas will go to hell, I cannot
	with any good conscience at all, say tonight that people that willingly practice pagan customs will not go to hell.
	The things that God has to say about it are so strong and you better heed and Have a little fear of God in your life.
	The Bible that's saying in the New Testament says to abstain from all appearance of evil.
	I have no comfort or solace for anyone that will willingly participate in paganism.
	Those words are very strong.
	They're not ambiguous.
	They're very clear.
	Don't do it.
	And when the Lord says, thou shalt not, you says, oh, I will.
	You know, you put yourself on very, very dangerous ground.
	So I have no, I cannot applaud individuals that willingly participate in pagan practices.
	And I certainly cannot applaud ministers that are going to encourage their flock to participate in pagan customs.
	Especially ministers because they need to be held to a higher standard.
	And they will be, yes.
	I think, I think there's people out there that's genuinely, they don't just don't know.
	I think they're just, they just don't know and they get, they just don't have, I guess the, it's a big, it's a big topic.
	It's kind of heavy, a heavy topic.
	Um, I love some of my family members, you know, all my family, not my family lives with me, but outside, you know, the realm of my family tree, pretty much everybody celebrates it.
	Um, But that being said, I think their heart, they mean that they're trying to celebrate for Christ, right?
	But then, like you're saying, there's the paganistic traits that lead to destruction.
	And then there's a confusion there.
	And then I think a lot of it has to do with Um, all these years of being programmed into it, and then it's attached to memories and, you know, what it signifies and what, you know, it's time to give gifts and bless and be thankful and say, the Lord has been born, right?
	This is the Lord's day and all that.
	Then you think, well, because you, you know, in my standpoint, I'm giving grace, you know, hey, a lot of grace and a lot of love, because if you don't love your neighbor, you don't love God, right?
	So then I'm thinking like, on, so this happened in the 1800s.
	So the 1800s, I think it's like 1836, you know, they used to be outlawed, right?
	It used to, it used to not be even, this is in America.
	So like, What's that, right?
	So then, I think when you get taught something for so long and there's ties to your great-grandparents, your grandparents, etc.
	Oh yeah, 1836.
	It becomes a conditioning.
	Yeah, thank you.
	That was by the Puritans.
	Yeah, it was legal in 1836.
	It was considered ancient pagan holiday, right?
	So, like, a lot of people are... I think their heart is in the right place to serve the Lord, but then when they don't truly understand the traits that it's embedded in the paganistic practices like Saturnalia, you know, Nimrod, they seem to ignore it because they don't truly know that that day is not it.
	25th of December has nothing to do with Jesus.
	They truly think it does, but it's to do with a totally different entity, a deity, a Nimrod, all these different things, right?
	And they're bamboozled, they're fooled, and This is why we do these programs because we're trying to be gracious and give out the truth and be in prayer and Pray that it's edifying to somebody out there that can be that the seed can be planted Just like I did.
	I used to be very Very in tuned with it.
	I used to do all the celebrations.
	We all did on this panel more than likely and we And we have to give a lot of grace because I know that I have family that still practices it in that but they don't They don't, they understand that it's pagan.
	I think they truly do, but they don't understand that there's the deep root ties to it.
	I think they don't, they try to, you know, like it's like anything else, right?
	It's like the last few years, right?
	We've been so turned upside down with all this, you know, the medical stuff, all these different things.
	It's technically the same kind of thing when you look at it.
	Like it could be, you can be so persuasive to be sold something
	Like it's a brand new piece of equipment like you can be sold and be fooled and then before you know it you're caught up in the spider web of insanity and then it's hard to it's one of the hardest things on a testimonial standpoint one of the hardest things to endure and then especially getting rid of all your decorations getting rid of everything that's been um you know family you know the family remembrance of your hey this memory of this ornament all this it's like the hardest thing to do but once you do it
	And once you throw it out in the garbage and get rid of it all, God blesses it.
	God will bless you.
	God truly will bless you.
	And the path will be laid out and you'll truly feel relieved.
	And then even when you, in all the, you know, you're subjected to people's comments, people will bash you.
	The families will bash you.
	They'll be like, what do you mean you're not celebrating these things?
	Why aren't you celebrating Jesus?
	There's 364 days out of the year.
	There's 365 days out of the year, excuse me, but there's 364 days out of the year to celebrate Jesus all day long.
	And be blessed and know He's at the right hand of the Father.
	And I try to explain that.
	And I really do, truly, genuinely mean that.
	We have to be a lighthouse.
	And I know you two understand.
	I hope everybody in the chat understands it.
	I hope everybody out there in the airwaves here, we're broadcasting this program.
	But we have to be gracious.
	And I'm sorry to take up the time, David, but I just wanted to kind of give a little testimonial there because it kind of all, every time this time of year comes around, it burdens me because me and my family, we don't do it.
	But then, you know, the cousins, everybody else outskirts, you know, the extended family, that's all they know.
	And you try to explain that and they don't understand the occultic traits.
	They don't understand it.
	It's heartbreaking.
	I'll give the floor back to you, David.
	Well, I think probably your testimony there is much like mine and Dan's and probably most of the people in the chat that we've gone through.
	And I was raised as a young boy, uh, celebrating Christmas.
	And when I got born again and went to church, everyone there celebrated Christmas.
	I never thought a thing about it.
	It never entered my mind that it might possibly wrong until it did.
	It was much like the flat earth thing.
	I had no idea that I always believed the Earth was round, a spinning ball, the whole thing.
	I never questioned it until one day I did.
	And then, when one day, and it was, you know, I began doing a lot of deep study into secret societies and Freemasonry in the early 80s, and I could see what that equinox and solstice was all about.
	It was wrong.
	And, um, I ditched Christmas, um, way back in the eighties, uh, sister Don and I are, um, oh boy, the, the, the children were both, they were just around 10 years old when we gave up Christmas.
	And, uh, so it's been a while for us.
	And, um, the, uh, the thing about it is that.
	The Lord will not hold against us things we don't know and understand, but when the light of God comes to us on an issue, if we do not study it, when the Lord brings our attention, there's a problem there.
	If we ignore it and we do not look into it, we're going to be culpable.
	Charles Finney would call that if you don't seek out a matter of conscience.
	And for Mr. Finney, two of his big issues were Freemasonry and slavery.
	And he took big stands on those issues.
	He said it was wrong for one human being to own another.
	We stand with Mr. Finney in that.
	And Charles Finney said that if you don't examine a matter of conscience, you cannot have the spirit of prayer.
	And it's just like if you know, you know, you know, well, boy, there's some serious problems with Christmas, but I'm just going to ignore it.
	I'm not going to study it out.
	I'm not going to look at it.
	You'll lose your anointing.
	Because you know there's something there you need to look at, but you think, well, we'll just ignore it.
	I don't know no better.
	No, stay dumb and staying safe don't work.
	When the Holy Spirit brings to your mind on Freemasonry or Christmas or any issue that you need to look at it, you're obligated by the Holy Ghost of heaven to look into that.
	And if you don't, it's going to be on you and you're going to be culpable and accountable before the Lord.
	Yeah, and I got one for you too, David.
	This has just happened to me recently.
	Somebody that's in my family, literally, For years now that I don't celebrate it.
	And I had no joke, I called them the other day just to have a conversation.
	Somebody real close to me actually.
	And was, it must have been a spirit, a demonic, like I hadn't even brought the topic up of any shape or form just asking how they're doing.
	And they're literally insisting that I put a tree up.
	They know my stance and they was just pushing it and pushing it and it went on and on and on.
	And you know, after a while, after two or three minutes, my blood pressure starts to rise, right?
	Well, I tried to hold... Well, I did.
	I held back my tongue and just swallowed.
	It's like I wasn't calling about that.
	I'm sorry you brought that up.
	And the one thing that was rattling in my mind, I was like, if I took a Buddha statue, just think about this, if I took a Buddha statue and just stuck it up in the middle of the house, like anywhere, say, hey, I'm coming here to put up my celebration.
	You know, this is my care package.
	I'm just dropping off a statue for you guys.
	Here you go.
	Like they would, you know what I'm saying?
	Like, what is that?
	Bizarre.
	It's bizarre.
	So I'm like, why?
	And I asked the person, why are you doing this?
	Why?
	You know my stance on this.
	We've talked about this for years.
	And you're insisting that I put this in Duval.
	It's insanity!
	And I'm like, they're saying, well, you have to let everybody be around it.
	And I'm like, this is a straight up demonical spirit.
	You have to expose people to this.
	You know, that's what they're, you know, you have to be exposed.
	Your family has to be exposed to this.
	Everybody's doing it.
	After all the years of saying that we do not practice it and we got rid of all her stuff, years has passed and this happened this year.
	But what is that?
	So if I took and I call and I say, I want to put a Buddhist statue up in your house, uh, that's not going to ride.
	It's the same, it's the same principle.
	It's the same principle, but they know darn well that I'm not a Buddhist, right?
	But they'll be like, well, I think, in my opinion, they would probably respect that more.
	Well, at least you're putting something up to celebrate.
	You know, that kind of concept.
	And that, to me, is just nothing but garbage can demonic.
	That's all it is.
	It's trash.
	Can you imagine?
	Seriously.
	And you're like, you're real calm and peaceful.
	But if I did, if I asked anybody, say, hey, call them up.
	Why didn't you let me put a Buddha statue up?
	It, it, it's so contradicting.
	It's so ridiculous where we're at.
	And then when we realize that Christ was not born on that in this month and on that day, then what?
	Right, David?
	Then what?
	What do you think?
	I mean, then what?
	So it is.
	I mean, this is dark.
	I mean, that's dark.
	Demonic motivation and there, we live in a world where, and speaking to the professed Christian world, doesn't seem like a whole lot gets them angry.
	There's so many things that, you know, the Bible talks about sighing and groaning for the abominations.
	There's not a whole lot gets them worked up.
	There's insane things going on in our nation, but what will get them worked up, And what will really cause them to lose their minds and just really start to act on up is when you start talking about this issue and bringing in some obvious facts about how paganism is just all over this thing.
	Something else I might say, Mr. Odell, in the video that John and I Had polemic against last night or Thursday night.
	He talked about his mother and about how his mother come to the Lord.
	And we're so thankful for that.
	We're so thankful whenever anyone comes to the Lord.
	But I thought I might say something about my mother and she loved Jesus.
	She really loved Jesus.
	And, uh, uh, and you know, she was raised to celebrate, but never thought about it all of her life.
	And after I began to come into the truthfulness and I began to share the truth with her, she repented and quit celebrating Christmas.
	And my mother never owned a car in her life.
	She never had a driver's license.
	She worked.
	And if she couldn't catch a ride, she would walk to work.
	Always.
	She worked menial, low-paying jobs.
	We were very poor.
	Never even had a family car.
	And always, my mother, she had a Sears and Roebuck credit card.
	And every year, And even when we were young, that was even before the Sears and Roebuck credit card.
	But on Christmas, she would buy me toys.
	I would have toys for Christmas.
	And she would have her Sears and Roebuck credit card.
	She would go into debt every year buying everyone gifts.
	And she would pay on that debt all year long.
	Yeah, I just said, Mom, the Lord wants to set you free from that.
	You know, more than that.
	This is just that bondage.
	And I can say that our two children have both thanked us for raising them in the truth and raising them according to the truth of Scripture instead of the lies of the world.
	And I could talk about other members of our immediate family that have also forsaken this pagan abomination and been blessed by God for it.
	So there is a fight here.
	And whatever we do for the Lord, it's going to be a warfare.
	It's going to be a heartache.
	But I tell you what, it's worth it.
	When we can share the truth of scripture and see people set free, that's what it's all about.
	Because, and I was ministering tonight, on our Friday night message, how the Lord wants to dwell with us.
	And that's the most important thing we could ever think about.
	And he asks us, he says that we are to touch not the unclean thing and separate ourselves from idolatry and he will dwell with us.
	So that is what I choose.
	It is in we, the presence of God with us is the most precious thing that we could ever possess.
	And for us to totally separate ourselves from the things of evil that he might dwell with us, that should be the desire of each and every child of God, not to see how close to the world we can live, but how close to the Lord we can live, that his presence might be with us in an abundant measure.
	Amen, David.
	And so, uh, you know, Dean Ortle and all these other people out there right now, and it's like the same, like I said, the same exact stuff that they're regurgitating.
	So basically, they're getting this off of a disciple of a disciple of a disciple of a disciple, you know, basically, uh, I'm gonna butcher their names, Hippolytus, um, of Rome, he was a disciple of Arrhenius, which was a disciple of Polycarp, which was a disciple of Paul, I believe, or Peter.
	So, a disciple of a disciple of a disciple of a disciple, right?
	That's where it's from.
	That, yeah, you know, here's a graphic here basically saying the same stuff.
	Saying that Jesus was born December 25th and has nothing to do with pagan festivals or replacing, yeah, they gotta highlight that, you know.
	Nothing to do with it, of course, they're saying.
	So, Arrhenius of Lyons In his works against heresies, which mind you, both me and David Carrico both got, I got the digital copies, he's got the actual copies, he says no such thing about the birth of Jesus Christ in September.
	You know, the consummation and whatever, and him being born nine months later.
	He has no such thing at all.
	So, it goes on to his disciple, In the next in line Hippopotamus of Rome, right?
	So wrote in his commentary book of Daniel that Jesus was conceived on March 25th and he was born in December 25th, right?
	So I didn't verify that and here's my here's my whole thing with this, right?
	Even if Hippolytus, right?
	I'm going to butcher his name.
	But yeah, even if he wrote this.
	We can just call him Hippopotamus.
	Hippopotamus.
	All right, perfectly.
	Yeah, so even if hippopotamus here and 240 whatever you really said this thing right even if he said this Paul's never said this Peter's never said this John the Baptist never said this no nowhere in scriptures ever said this
	Polycom never said that so obviously in him being of Rome is what Roman influence so yes This is little before the Catholic Church, but here's the thing the Rome the Church of Rome was always pagan So there was a strong pagan influence of Rome of course people of Rome still had that pagan stuff so even if a hippopotamus did say this And I'm not, you know, doubt any word, I don't know, you know what I mean?
	I haven't read it.
	But even if he did say this, so what?
	You know, and then he goes on with other people here.
	You know, in 221, Sexto Julio Africano talked about March 25th being him being consummated and nine months later was December 25th of him being born.
	You know, here's the thing, even if these guys did say that, so what?
	You know it just cuz I can't say this enough man.
	I'm just like I've been racking my head all night over this so Just cuz they said it it doesn't mean nothing The fact that's not mentioned in the Bible the fact that Peter John Paul or any of those people never said such things even polycop That's all we have to go by and here's the thing David made a point on the show last night Well him and John Pounders did this right?
	The Bible shows us how to worship Jesus.
	It tells us how, what, and what to do to worship Jesus, right?
	Nowhere in the scripture does it say we have to honor on December 25th, or the birth of Christ.
	Because here's the thing, and I don't believe the birthdays were even celebrated back then either, because, especially Jesus.
	These guys knew that.
	Jesus wasn't born into existence.
	on his birth.
	He was already here even before creation.
	He was just manifested in the flesh and Mary was chosen to host the seed.
	He was already in existence.
	He talked to prophets thousands of years before he was born in the flesh.
	So why are we going to celebrate his birth?
	What was celebrated in the scriptures, if you notice, was the resurrection and his return coming.
	That's what's celebrated.
	You didn't see nowhere the Mary or anybody celebrating his birthday.
	And the thing is, if this was a feast, a day set apart by the Lord, which the Bible names the days that the Lord set apart, and also the feast that He created for us.
	Nowhere in there is mentioned Easter or Christmas or anything like that.
	Nowhere.
	That we have to set our days apart for that.
	And the Lord would, especially something that significant, you know it should be in the Scriptures, and it's not.
	I'll try to speak to this, and Dan, I guess, you know, I was there joking, calling hippopotamus.
	It'll be all over Facebook.
	Those guys are so dumb, they call him hippopotamus.
	You know, he's on every word you have.
	Hippolytus was the man's name.
	Hippolytus, okay.
	Hippolytus.
	And I'll try to unpack this a little bit, and I'll just preface this by saying that anyone that ministers the word of God, You should have a real fear of God.
	Paul said that I stand before you in fear and trembling.
	The Bible says, let everything be established in the mouth of two and three witnesses when we teach doctrine.
	And we teach the Word of God to people.
	It shouldn't be our ideas.
	It shouldn't be our conjecture.
	We shouldn't make stuff up.
	We shouldn't put words in other people's mouths.
	We should not be trying to twist the Word of God to fit our perspective.
	We should give the straightforward facts and the truth.
	And in this instance, I want to speak to this just a little bit, and on the Thursday night broadcast on Now You See TV, I really went into it in detail.
	Point and line, and anyone that wants to watch that, I would encourage that even.
	But, and we have a succession here, not an apostolic succession, but it is very true, the Apostle John was the teacher of polycarp, who was the teacher of Irenaeus, who was the teacher of Hippolytus.
	Now, for anyone to say that the Apostle John taught or said that Jesus was born on December 25th, you need to stop lying.
	Not one word was said.
	You will be held accountable by the Lord for making things up.
	Shame on you.
	Polycarp did not say one word about Jesus being born on December 25th.
	Not one word.
	Irenaeus Did not say one word.
	Dan and I, when we were trying to find this, and someone said, well, it's right here in Ionaeus, and Dan sent me the text.
	I was reading it, and I text Dan back.
	Dan, I didn't see it.
	Did you?
	No, I didn't see it.
	It ain't in there.
	And I have, we have in our library here at FOJC Radio, all 38 volumes of the Apostolic Fathers, the Nicene and the Post-Nicene Fathers, all 38 volumes.
	And I know not everyone is fortunate enough to be able to do that.
	And people know, I tell you what, you might not think ministers are this devious, and I'm not accusing Mr. Ogle of this, because he was just pulling this information from another website, the humming priest, oh boy.
	But anyway, There's not one word, and I know we looked it up, and it is not in there, and people will say, well, this guy said that, that guy said this, to make the point, and they know most people don't know, so they get away with it because people trust them.
	But we looked, there's not one word in Irenaeus, and Dan texted Mr. Odall, and Odall responded, well, It was Hippolytus that said it, and because Irenaeus was taught by Hippolytus, therefore Irenaeus must have told Hippolytus.
	Now here's the facts.
	Nothing from John, nothing from Polycarp, nothing from Irenaeus, but Hippolytus said it, therefore He was told by Irenaeus, he was told by Polycarp, and the Apostle John was running around telling people where Jesus was born on December 25th.
	Now that's just a whole lot of nonsense.
	Now, that's not the end of the story.
	I have the Apostolic Fathers, the writing of Hippolytus, And it supposedly came from his comments on the, his commentary on Daniel.
	And it's not in there either!
	The supposed quote that Jesus was born on December 25th is not in the writings of Hippolytus and the Apostolic Fathers.
	The reason why?
	The 38 volume set that I have was published in 1885, and this quote, supposed quote, that surfaced attributed to Hippolytus was not even found until 1888.
	And I read on my broadcast with John from a Catholic website, and this Catholic website that was defending Catholicism, they said this quote from Hippolytus is unreliable, and we cannot trust it.
	And the reason for that, and I showed this in the broadcast with John, that In the edition of the Apostolic Fathers, the real one, when it shows there the fragments of commentaries in the Prodigy of Hippolytus, it says they are scholia.
	Now, what scolia means, there were scolia of Bible books, there were scolias of the writing of Homer, and what they would do, a scholar would take a manuscript, and what they did, there was a manuscript of the book of Daniel, and basically the scholar would take the manuscript and he'd write margin notes.
	His comments in the margin, and when these scolias would get filled up, they would many times put them out as a book.
	Well, and it's just real obvious, and when this...
	commentary was in the hands of Hippolytus, there was nothing said about Jesus being born on December 25th, so whoever, who knows who, who knows when, added his note in, this was added in after Hippolytus had his hands on it.
	That's why even many Catholic scholars will not even acknowledge this so-called December 25th quote of Hippolytus.
	Well, check this out, David.
	Back in 2012, November 22nd, Pope Benedict disputed the birth of Christ.
	He said it's not his birthday.
	He said December 25th is not the birth of Christ and that's coming from the Pope at the time.
	That was all over Time Magazine and everything else and he made a big deal about that.
	That, you know, disputing, like, he's saying it's not the birth of Christ.
	Yeah.
	And it just really obviously isn't.
	And it's such shame, you know.
	And, you know, what can you say?
	My heart really breaks that, you know, when people go to such extremities to try to defend the lie, it's really heartbreaking.
	It really is.
	And it's such misguided zeal.
	And it would be so much better just to repent and to start telling people Instead of trying to see how many pagan customs we can put into our life, let's see how close to the Lord we can walk and strip ourselves of all vestiges of this paganism.
	100%.
	100%, David.
	There's something I was going to say earlier you was talking about.
	You know, people spend so much money going to dad, you was referring to your mother, you know, the Sears.
	I see him that you say, what did you say?
	The Sears catalog or whatever.
	Sears and Roebuck credit card.
	Everything mom would buy.
	I mean, she'd buy nice things and all year long that debt.
	And I mean, she, you talk about limit, she was poor, you know, and bless her heart.
	That was her way of being nice and kind to people, you know, and like so many people that are into this Christmas thing, they're not trying to be bad.
	They're trying to be good.
	But you know, the Lord set her free from that and there's a lot of people need set free from it.
	Just think of the money every year spent on the nonsense of Christmas decorations and all that.
	Millions and billions and I'm sure even billions of dollars.
	What a nonsensical waste that is.
	How much good could be done with that money if it were not squandered in such a A pagan way.
	Well, then, you know, you like today, we was out today with the family, just eating something.
	We're just going out to eat restaurant and you can't get around town.
	Like you just can't even, you can't get around anywhere.
	It's just jammed up every which way.
	Right.
	All year goes on.
	And I know this from a retail standpoint, cause I, I used to work in retail.
	The prices don't really change.
	It's just the advertising, the promotion, let's just say propaganda.
	Let's just say for fun here.
	And it's enticement on a consumer standpoint.
	It just blows my mind that you would go into substantial debt.
	And not even be able to pay your mortgage, not even be able to pay your car payment.
	The repo man will come next month in 2024, but my goodness 2023, we're going to have a party.
	We're going to make sure I got $10,000 worth of presents underneath that tree.
	And it doesn't make any sense.
	The logistics are off, like completely off.
	And there's a spirit behind that.
	There's a spirit behind it.
	There's nothing else you can say.
	It's like run, run, run, run, run, run, run.
	Have all these bells and whistles and nothing.
	And then you have nothing to show for it.
	Like it all just vanishes.
	It's crazy.
	So over the summer, they jacked the prices up, you know, slowly.
	So basically when Christmas comes around, they'll drop the prices back to normal and probably a little, maybe 1-2% more.
	And to make it look like y'all getting an amazing deal when in actuality you're paying the real price.
	You know what I mean?
	And that's how they operate.
	It's all psychological games.
	Yeah, where I work and go to my studio here and all that so basically this big circle because I live where I live It's like a circle basically where I work have a studio and my gyms and everything I go to so it's all one big circle.
	It's pretty cool, but Usually is usually traffic on route 2.
	It's in Warwick Rhode Island Route 2 it's usually a lot of traffic, but it's insane because of the Christmas stuff and they have cops that block off traffic or Over a liquor store.
	There's a place called Haxton's Liquors.
	It's a big liquor store.
	It sells alcohol and everything.
	So, they block off traffic just to let people in and out of there.
	And not alone, there's a million lights on Route 2 as it is.
	Traffic everywhere.
	And there's all these shopping plazas everywhere.
	And a mall down the street.
	So, it's insane just to try to get to work at 1030 at night.
	You know, it's people clogging up the roads at 1030 at night.
	I get out in the morning, usually it's clear traffic.
	Now, Uh, traffic everywhere.
	Even on a Saturday or Sunday, people floodin' the roads, you know?
	It's ridiculous.
	And, uh, all for what?
	To buy Chinese slave goods that, you know, the kids are gonna either lose or break a month later, you know?
	Well, and then, you know, I used to be the worst at it.
	I used to go to all the Black Fridays, do everything under the sun, as far as every deal, everything that you could possibly... Basically, you know, Borderline used to try to take people out, you know, hit the bumpers, hit their cars and everything, because I was in road rage mode, because I got to get to the Christmas gathering.
	You feel me?
	Like, everything was just so... It puts you in such a...
	Uh, anger state, because you're like, I gotta go this one, I gotta go that one, I gotta go this one, I gotta go that one, and it's just thousands of dollars and then gas and everything before you know it.
	Yeah, it's just, I mean, you're literally taking off bumpers.
	I mean, I've seen this.
	We've got church members in the mall fist-fighting over parking lots, you know.
	Yeah.
	Parking place to get to the mall, you know.
	It doesn't make any sense, David.
	It doesn't make any sense.
	It's not, it's not, it's not, it's not what Christ wants.
	It's just insanity.
	It's, it's, I mean, it's nice to have gifts, don't get me wrong.
	Look, you can get a gift in March, you can get a gift any time of the year, you can get a nice gift.
	Everybody likes to have a gift every now and then, right?
	But, my goodness.
	And then, just abundantly, just packing it out.
	And one thing that really gets me going, if anybody gets anything out of this broadcast, is I'll never forget it when you lie to your children that Santa Claus is real you say he's real and they start growing up I'll never forget when I was a child how can they how can the children take mom and daddy serious when they start talking about Jesus Talking about the Father, talking about the Holy Spirit, talking about the fallen angels, talking about the devil, whatever.
	Yeah.
	How can they take you serious if you've lied to them all these years about Santa Claus?
	Yeah, because they'll be like, you know, my parents lied to me about the Tooth Fairy, about the Easter Bunny, about Santa Claus.
	So what are they telling me the truth about?
	You know, so that's what a teenager would say.
	They lied to me about these major things.
	So is everything else they told me a lie?
	Yeah.
	So how are you going to be serious?
	Like you said, how are you going to be serious about talking about Jesus?
	Yeah, there's something new this year also that I honestly never heard by every year, you know, it heats up and people will start trying to defend Christmas.
	It'll happen next year and every year, but something new this year.
	I've really never heard before that people are saying.
	Now, the cult of Sol Invictus.
	Now, that was established in 274 AD, way before Constantine.
	And they were celebrating the birthday of Sol Invictus in 274, and I just kind of scratched my head and thought, you know, what point are they trying to make?
	I don't get it.
	And we brought out on the broadcast with John that I read the quote.
	It was from Adam Clark's commentary.
	That there were 156 dates for Christ's birth that were argued for in the Catholic Church.
	156.
	And he gives a list.
	of early believers that argued for the birth of Christ in every month of the year, and in the Catholic Encyclopedia, they're the guys that are cheering for the 25th day.
	They admit that there was no mention of the worship of Christ's birthday until 200 AD, and then it was Clement of Alexandria that was the first to mention it, and he said that they were celebrating it on May the 20th.
	On May the 20th.
	So, this idea, and I also read from the Catholic Encyclopedia that, and it was in 274 AD, the cult of Sol Invictus was established.
	And they worshiped Old Soul's birthday on December 25th, but everybody knows there was 156 different positions.
	Why did December 25th went out?
	336.
	Constantine made it official.
	That's why December 25th.
	336.
	Constantine.
	And yeah, December 25th, it was the birthday of Sol Invictus.
	It was the birthday of the Roman goddess Bruma.
	It was the birthday of Mithras.
	And I have a book, I held it up on our broadcast with John, 16 Crucified World Saviors.
	And in this, there is a long list of pagan deities that were worshipped as their birthday being on December 25th.
	So, there's no doubt about it that the reason December 25th is the day for Christ's birthday, it isn't scripture, it isn't the apostolic doctrine or church history, it's Constantine, 336 AD.
	Yeah, here's something here's something I want to throw out here David just on just those huge like for example the long these complex words right these Hard words to pronounce in my neck of the woods somebody if I start talking about Constantine all these different things and talking about the helios heliocentric or the flat earth or Geocentric whatever starts throwing out some big words here, and they'll say whoa whoa people were like Brian, I just can't understand those things.
	This is not, I have to go to this man, the pastor, the preacher, whatever, my professor, whoever it is, and they're saying, Brian, we just have to stay right here.
	We can't do the deep studies like you.
	We can't do that.
	So we're just going to continue doing what we're doing.
	We know that this is this way, but we just, that's okay.
	Jesus will forgive us because we can't articulate and comprehend these deep studies.
	I hear this all the time in my family.
	My, you know, other side of the family.
	I can't, I can't read.
	I can't read correctly.
	I can't understand.
	And God hasn't gave me that ability to understand it.
	And they just scrub it.
	But you're like, whoa, You know, hello, and it's just a default.
	It's like a, it's like a mechanism for, uh, I guess a defense, like a defense mode and just basically tell you to shut up, you know, kind of concept.
	So what would you do?
	Cause this is what I deal with around here.
	Like, how does this work when somebody says, well, Brian, you just do too much deep study.
	So does that make them not accountable?
	You kind of get what I mean?
	This is just kind of a hypothetical question.
	So.
	accountability is on you or is accountability on them because they're basically is that one of those parts in the prescriptive where it says that's your feet off you tried all you can do or you straight you keep continually giving grace that's where i'm at i continually keeping grace what do you say brother david because that It's almost arrogant and almost ignorant for them to come back.
	Well, you can't.
	These studies are bad.
	You can't do that.
	So like, you know, we're talking about Catholicism and all these different things in the Catholic Church and how they've manipulated and incorporated this into our society.
	So.
	Dean Christmas, okay.
	And then said it was over Jesus Christmas.
	No more Nimrod, no more pagan, but Jesus, right?
	So like all these years has passed.
	And they're saying, well, that stuff exists, but it's just too deep.
	So what do you think, David?
	What do you think? - Well, number one, we know that the Bible commands each and every one of us study to show yourselves approved unto God.
	We are to study the Scripture.
	This isn't something just for a few believers.
	Every believer is commanded to study the Scriptures.
	1 Peter 2 and 2 says, As newborn babes desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby.
	I don't buy in.
	You know, when a person is born again, I know one of the first things that really tore me up is that God wrote a book.
	I heard a man in prison chapel say God wrote a book.
	That exploded in my mind and has never left me.
	And I've been in love with the Word of God ever since.
	So, I don't buy into this idea that, oh, I'm a believer and I have no desire to read my Bible.
	No, I don't buy into that.
	And number two, just like I shared earlier, like Brother Finney said, that if anyone won't examine a matter of conscience, they're going to lose the anointing of prayer, Brother Finney said.
	And different people have different abilities to research and study.
	I know a lot of people are very limited.
	They don't have a library and they might not have access to internet and they can't do a lot of the research that we're capable to.
	And what do people like that do?
	They look to their spiritual leaders.
	And this shows what a responsibility it is on people that are leaders in Christian assemblies.
	If you take upon yourself the title of elder or leader, You're responsible to teach and lead that congregation what responsibility it is on you to lead them correctly.
	And of course, if you go to a church and you're enjoying it and you're going to trust the pastor, you're going to trust.
	And if he tells you something, you're likely to go along with it without questioning it.
	That cannot be done anymore.
	We have to question.
	We have to realize that we're in days of dark apostasy where even though the shepherds have gone astray, the shepherds of Israel have gone astray.
	We must seek these things out for themselves and it isn't that hard.
	So that's why we have to stand in the gap and say what we say because we have Christian leaders, so-called, that are not steering believers right, they're steering the sheep wrong.
	They're heading them over the side of the cliff.
	Yeah, and um, you know, you mentioned about children and all that stuff, so... And when you bring up the Christmas tree, and they say, oh, that just came along in the 300s, there's nothing else after that.
	You know, before that, I'm telling you, there is much before that, and I get attacked.
	So, people say, well, we're not worshiping the tree, it's not, we're not, I don't know, are you not?
	How many songs, how many Christmas songs do you guys go grow up Christmas caroling?
	Uh, what's it, uh, Deck the Halls, Boughs of Holly, Fa la la la, that's paganism.
	Uh, how about, uh, Troll the Yuletide Carols?
	You guys know what you're saying.
	Uh, and also, um, Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree, Let the Christmas Party Hop, whatever.
	Then, um, O Christmas Tree, O Christmas Tree, How Lovely Your Branches Are.
	That's not worshipin' that tree.
	You know what I mean?
	Just read the... Go get your favorite Christmas carols where it mentions Christmas tree in it.
	It's honoring the Christmas... You're venerating this Christmas tree.
	Everybody gathers around the Christmas tree, right?
	To open their presents.
	Under the Christmas tree, around the Christmas tree, you are honoring this tree as an idol.
	Whether you know it or not, even people say, oh, oh, God knows my heart and he knows I'm not.
	It's like, no, you should ask yourself, do you know God's heart?
	Because your heart is filthy.
	All our hearts are filthy.
	So, you know, you give the other excuse, oh, God knows my heart.
	You know, that's a cop out if you ask me.
	But, hey, you know, without you knowing it or not, regardless, you are still idolizing that tree.
	You put a star on the top and you got these, you know, nasty Christmas balls all over it.
	Decorated with silver and gold.
	And people bow down, literally.
	And without you knowing it, now you're bowing down to it.
	And how does this bring glory to God?
	What's the Christmas tree got anything to do with God?
	Where, I'm sorry, where's the pine trees in Israel?
	In Bethlehem where Jesus was born, right?
	Where are the pine trees?
	They're under the ground, Dan.
	I'm just being sarcastic, folks.
	That's what they'll come up with.
	And they'll avoid that question.
	And they'll say, oh, it's just a tradition that started.
	Yeah, a tradition.
	A tradition of what?
	Man.
	What does the Bible say?
	Follow God, not man's tradition.
	Jesus warned us about man's tradition.
	So, again, you're backpedaling because when you bring up these excuses, all you're doing is backpedaling.
	That's all you're doing.
	You're backpedaling and putting your foot in your mouth even further.
	That's what you as ministers are doing out there.
	Oh, it's harmless.
	And I think, when I see a Christmas tree in the last church I went to, they had this big Christmas tree up on the altar.
	To me, I'm sitting there, I'm in the pews, right?
	I'm just looking at the tree.
	And inside my gut, man, I truly believe it's the Holy Spirit.
	And just sick disgusting feeling that and a pure abomination this phallic disgusting symbol sitting in a place that's supposed to be a house of God, right?
	And you sit and it just baffles me and at the same time makes me sick spiritually to my stomach.
	And I don't know if that was Holy Spirit crying out to me and I truly believe it was.
	Dad's saying this is so wrong.
	So wrong.
	The Bible makes very clear descriptions about not bringing these untestable things to your houses.
	What's the point of cutting a tree down and bringing it to your house so it dies later?
	Makes no sense at all.
	Seriously, if you think about that, man, let's cut a beautiful pine tree down.
	These things are great because of the winter.
	It keeps the oxygen going and all that.
	So let's cut down millions of pine trees to stick it in our house for a month and let it die and all that.
	It makes no damn sense.
	It really doesn't.
	And people say, oh, we don't honor it.
	We don't worship it.
	Well, yeah, you don't.
	Regardless of what you think or whatever you want to believe, you don't.
	And you sit there, if you guys sit there, right?
	You put the tree up, right?
	It takes time for you guys to get the decorations out, to decorate it.
	You're playing Christmas carols.
	And everybody's gathering around the tree, putting their presents on it.
	It's all focused on the tree.
	Whether you believe it or not, or know it or not, you are venerating that tree.
	Then you got the goons out there, oh, it has nothing at all to do with paganism.
	Really?
	Alright, I'm gonna show you something.
	So, these sources here are pagan sources.
	Right?
	The spiritual meaning and symbolism of the pine tree.
	The pine tree has a sacred symbol for thousands of years.
	Not, you know, not 300 years ago, whatever.
	Thousands of years.
	With its evergreen needles represent longevity, resilience, and renewal.
	And you'll ever wonder why a deeper spiritual meaning for the symbolism of the pine tree is, and you've come to the right place.
	And this is a pagan source, right?
	Right here, Spirit Guide.
	It's pure pagan New Age.
	And if you can go to any one of these New Age places, the pine tree is a huge symbol that goes back to Babylon, basically.
	Thousands of years.
	And Yule Tree, right?
	They call it the Yule Tree, too.
	Decorate your Yule tree.
	That's Norse mythology, Dan.
	Yeah, and how is any of this Christian?
	You know, people say, well, Christians did it in the mid... It doesn't matter what Christians did in the Middle Ages.
	That's irrelevant.
	You all imagine what the people in the scriptures did.
	You see the apostles?
	The 70 disciples and the 12 apostles?
	Even Stephen and all that?
	Did you see any of them doing that stupid retardness?
	No.
	Did you see Jesus talking about that?
	Did you see Paul?
	And, you know, the polycop and all them?
	No.
	They said nothing about that.
	And you'd think something like this would be in the scriptures.
	They're not.
	God again, once again, we go back to the Bible, not what Arrhenius said, or whoever, you know, Hippopotamus, whatever.
	Not what they said, okay?
	What the Scriptures say.
	You go back to them, the Scriptures would have highlighted that to say, we need to do this, and this is what we need to do.
	Now, the Passover, that's a biblical holiday.
	It tells you what you do, and all that, you know, the ceremony part of it, that Jesus even took part of.
	But Passover, I'm sorry, Christmas, there's nothing about it.
	So people can play semantics all they want, run it back and forth all they want, make excuses all they want.
	Oh, the early Christians, it doesn't matter what the early Christians did.
	It matters what the people in the scriptures did.
	It matters what Jesus did.
	It matters what Peter, Paul, John did.
	That's what matters.
	If they didn't do it, guess what?
	I'm not going to do it.
	And if the Bible says, hey, don't put a tree in your house, okay, guess what?
	I'm not going to put a tree in my house.
	Plain and simple.
	And this shouldn't even be an argument.
	And I know Pastor Dean Odom and all that.
	You all sit there making excuses.
	That's all you're doing.
	And yeah, when it was called the Christmas tree, it was about 300 A.D., whatever.
	That's when they started calling it the Christmas tree.
	But the ceremony of this tree goes back thousands of years.
	And obviously, no, thousands of years ago, they didn't call it the Christmas tree.
	This goes back to Scandinavian, ancient Celtic, and Greek, and everything else.
	They've done these rituals.
	You know what I mean?
	Look at this, the list of satanic scroll holidays, right?
	Yule extends, I think it's 12 days, right?
	You get the 12 days of Christmas, the song, you know, the song and the celebration.
	Well, guess what?
	There's 12 days of Yule.
	It's a part of the winter solstice celebration.
	That's all it is.
	There's nothing to do with Jesus Christ.
	There's nothing to do with Christianity.
	Or the Bible would have talked about it.
	You know, and plain and simple.
	And it just irritates me knowing that they come up and make these cockamamie excuses like these posts over here.
	And even with Dean Arnold's posts, so in his video.
	Sit there and make lies up about Arrhenius.
	Lies up about, you know, the writings of the book of Daniel commentary.
	Hippopotamus, whatever.
	And yeah, it just makes me sick, it really does.
	And they would make lies up and construe things, and it's half the information's like regularly.
	You know, it's like, where do you get this stuff from?
	And you string together a bunch of stuff because you know damn well that 99% of the people listen to you, you think they're gonna go read Arrhenius' writings?
	You think they're going to bring up against heresies?
	So you think the people in your congregation are going to take the time to go do that?
	Or read the 30 plus books?
	You know they're not going to do that.
	So you can go up on all to say, oh he said this and nobody's going to challenge it.
	And it's the same problem in the churches today that makes me sick.
	That they'll come up with these garbage translation Bibles.
	That's why they can get away with these things.
	And we went over the translation with the Jeremiah thing.
	And the thing is, nobody challenges the pastors.
	Nobody challenges the churches.
	They take their word for it, like David said, and that's the problem with the whole situation.
	Because the people, if they were to challenge these things and actually look this stuff up themselves, This stuff wouldn't even be as viral as it is.
	Because right away, like this guy Thomas here, and Dean Ordon, people like that, put this stuff up there, right away half the congregation would be shooting it down.
	I'm like, no, you're wrong.
	Because Iranius never said that, Polycom never said that, like David, you know, we explained all that.
	Well, I tell you, Brian, Brother Dan's fired up, isn't he?
	And I tell you, you know, it's a good thing.
	get the stuff.
	They're just going to take their word for it.
	And sorry for the rant, guys.
	It irritates me, man.
	I'll tell you, Brian, Brother Dan is fired up, isn't he?
	And I'll tell you, you know, it's a good thing and it just reminds me of Acts 17 16.
	The Apostle Paul got fired up in In Acts 17, 16, it says, Now while Paul waited for them at Athens, his spirit was stirred in him when he saw the city wholly given to idolatry.
	If you're a Christian and the Holy Ghost is in you, by the way, his first name is Holy, You will have, it'll be just like a cat and a dog reaction that will immediately react.
	The spirit of God's within you, you will be repulsed by idolatry.
	Your spirit will be stirred within you.
	But what we see In the predominant situation in the American apostate church, the only thing that stirs them and gets them fired up is to defend their idolatry.
	And they'll get quite mad if you defend their idolatry, but idolatry doesn't grieve them.
	And idolatry very little offends them.
	It's such a sad situation we're in.
	There's one more thing I might like to just speak to for just a moment.
	I think Mr. Odell, and I think you probably got that, I don't get on social media.
	So don't anyone expect me to, every day, try to find out what people are saying on me on social media to respond to it.
	I'm not going to do it.
	I got too much stuff to do, but since I do know about this, if you can find that quote Or that post from Mr. Odell on social media.
	I might just say a word or two about that.
	Which one?
	There's nothing new under the sun post?
	Uh, I don't know.
	It had to do with Acts chapter 15, the Apostolic Council.
	Oh yeah, yep.
	I got it right here.
	Yeah.
	So, skipping down here, well, we'll start off with the first one.
	He says, there's nothing new under the sun.
	There was a cult who rebelled against the Apostles' doctrine of the New Covenant and decrees from the Council of Apostles and elders in Acts 15.
	And this is the same cult is with us today, the so-called Torah slash Hebrew Roots movement.
	And they wrote letters by them in this manner.
	The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren, which are the Gentiles and Antioch, and Syria and Sicilia, forasmuch as we have heard.
	And certain which went out from us troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, You must circumcise and keep, and he capitalizes, and keep the law, to whom we gave no such commandment.
	Revelation 14, 12, ring a bell to keep the commandments of God, but anyway.
	And it seemed good unto us, being assembled unto one accord, to send chosen men unto you with also beloved Barnabas and Paul, and men that have hazarded their lives for the name of the Lord Christ, Acts 15, 23-26.
	And it goes on about the Ebonites that broke away from the apostles and drew some at the council and Acts 15.
	Is that where you talk about?
	Yeah, thank you.
	I have and you know, it's just really puzzling Talking about the Hebrew root sacred name movement You know, John Pounders put his testimony up about how he came out of that, and anyone that has listened to me at all knows that I draw very clear boundaries between what we're saying and what those people are saying.
	We're very much against it.
	We warn of the dangers of it constantly, and what I see In the Hebrew root, sacred name, messianic movement, is more and more of them coming out for the celebration of Christmas.
	You know, this is what I really see going on in the Hebrew root.
	Many, many, many of them coming out for Christmas, but it's a Bible issue.
	It's not about any group, and yeah, there were Ebionites, heresies in the early church, And there were also, have been ever since, there has been the Israel of God, there has been the Achans, try to bring in paganism into the Israel of God.
	That's the real point.
	And I want to just read, and to try to use the Apostolic Council here, As a get-out-of-jail-free card to practice paganism is so dangerous.
	In Acts chapter 15, let's read the scripture that there is alluded to.
	And in Acts chapter 15 in the Apostolic Council, that was called because in the early church, there was red-hot debate.
	I mean, there was red-hot contention.
	between Jewish believers and Gentile believers over what parts of the law were valid and what weren't.
	You had Jewish people converted to Christ out of Judaism.
	They had been just like a good church people.
	They, all of their lives, they'd been taught nonsense and tradition of man that was unbiblical.
	And then you had Gentiles that didn't know anything about the scriptures.
	They're born again, and they're coming in, so we got Gentiles that know nothing about the law, Jews that got all kinds of garbage on them, and it was red hot.
	It was a red hot contention, and this is what Acts 15 was called to do, to bring fellowship and harmony between the Jewish believers and the Gentile believers.
	Now, in the apostolic council in Acts 15, verse 19 and 20, it says this, Wherefore, my sentence is that we trouble them not, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God, but that we write unto them that they abstain from pollution of idols and but that we write unto them that they abstain from pollution of idols and from fornication and from things
	Now, these were the things that Gentile believers had to be very upfront and aware and against for a Jew and a Gentile to be able to fellowship together.
	Now, anyone that would think that what the Bible says here, okay, and say, well, there's nothing listed there about Christmas.
	Well, there have actually been people that have been so antinomian and so lost to say, well, this does away with the Ten Commandments.
	And to try to use this As a get-out-of-jail-free card to practice paganism, shame on you!
	You know, this is not a get-out-of-jail-free card to do away with the Ten Commandments and everything and God's moral law, but this was there to bring harmony between Jewish and Gentile believers.
	So, shame on you!
	If you try to use Acts 15 as some kind of a get-out-of-jail-free card to condone pagan practices, you'll be held accountable for it.
	Thank you.
	So, long story short, I'm not going to repeat all that again.
	So, again, Dean Odell said, um... I gotta stop muting the microphone, because I'm coughing a lot.
	So, anyway, um, Dean Odell said, uh, in his post about, um, no such thing as keeping the commandments or whatever, but initiating dispensationalism.
	That's what I was trying to say earlier.
	So, Revelation 14.12 is three times Revelation Jesus said to keep the commandments of God.
	Specify the commandments of God.
	We know he's got his two great commandments, but specifying the commandments of God to keep them, for us end time saints, to keep these commandments.
	So, I don't know where, in dozens of times throughout the scripture, Jesus says the commandments of God, the commandments of God, the commandments of God, and his two commandments as well, which are the hangers of where the Ten Commandments hang.
	So either way you get around it, we need to keep the Ten Commandments, plain and simple.
	And they were not abolished.
	Paul said the ordinances were nailed to the cross and bled out, not the commandments.
	There's a difference between ordinances, laws, commandments, and statutes.
	Four different things.
	And if you want to learn about them, go to 2 Kings.
	It teaches you all about those things.
	There's differences between the things and audiences at the time were like the penalties of the laws.
	So Mary Magdalene for example right when she committed adultery what do you tell her?
	Oh Mary it's okay because the commandments were abolished so you can go sleep with anybody you want now.
	No you say go and sit no more.
	Plain and simple.
	It's the seventh commandment violation.
	He said go and sin no more.
	Don't do it again.
	Repent.
	But the dispensationalism, this is where it all comes in the Christmas stuff.
	That it just completely dilutes the gospel.
	It really does.
	And you know, the bad translations, the dispensationalism.
	No wonder why Christians are running around with their heads cut off, not knowing to believe.
	Because they got blokes out there in the mainstream churches teaching this garbage.
	That's not biblical.
	And again, one more time, let's say one more time, it doesn't matter what, um, uh, Hippopotamus, I'll call him that.
	Hippopotamus, uh, said, maybe he was wrong.
	Okay.
	Which he was wrong.
	If he did say that, and maybe he was influenced by Rome.
	Just cause he said it doesn't mean it's the truth.
	He's only human.
	You know, plain and simple.
	So sorry, David.
	And like we said, it is very, very questionable.
	And highly unlikely that Hippolytus even said that.
	Yeah, it's obscure.
	And you know what we're saying is in line with John Wesley.
	And the people that followed John Wesley, it became the Methodist movement.
	They were so strong on the Ten Commandments.
	John Wesley said, if you do away with the law, you do away with the true gospel.
	One of John Wesley's great sermons was the law on Romans 3 and 31, the law established by faith.
	If you look at the Baptist, the non-conformist Baptist come down through John Gill.
	John Gill preached a sermon called The Law Established by the Gospel.
	They firmly believe the doctrine of Christ that Dan has already stated that Jesus did not come To do away with the law, but to fulfill it and to establish the law in the hearts of believers that fulfill the law through faith of the Holy Spirit.
	Love fulfills the law, and that Holy Spirit that write those commandments on our heart puts a love within us to fulfill them.
	Every one of the Puritans, you cannot read a Puritan that did not preach and emphasize the Ten Commandments.
	The Presbyterian Church, they were born out of the red hot fire of the Scottish Puritans, and my goodness, they called them the moral brethren.
	And Thomas Boston would be the most famous of the Morrill brothers.
	And Thomas Boston, they called them the Morrill brothers because they said the law of God is the sweet moral of the word of God, and when we follow God's law, the real sweetness of God is manifested to us.
	What we are saying is very much in line with the historic faith of believers, and like I say, I'm very comfortable with that, which John and I brought forth.
	I stand by it in Our defense is what we believe, and also in our polemic against what other people believe.
	We're comfortable with it.
	We've been very plain and upfront about what we believe, and there you go.
	And like I say, I speak to these things tonight.
	I don't get on Facebook, and I don't have time to everyday answer what everybody's saying about me on Facebook.
	People that want to call me names just got to get in line.
	But we're going to, you know, we're going to, and I'm going to say also that on FAJC Radio next week, the day after Christmas, Brian is going to be airing a teaching on the duality of Santa Claus.
	So people that are, you're there on Christmas Day and you're having this discussion, we'll tell them to tune in Tuesday night
	On FOJC, and also on Thursday night, we're going to, you know, we're doing after-Christmas broadcasting this year, because when the discussions take place on Christmas Day, well, maybe there'll be some people that will take a look at these things, and the facts, and on Thursday, I think, the broadcast, Saturnali and Nimrod, but, I mean, the facts, they're overwhelming!
	It is nonsensical and irrational To try to maintain that this isn't taken.
	You know, I don't see how an honest-hearted believer can look at these facts and come away saying anything else.
	And that's what we do, what we do.
	And, you know, we realize that more people are going to take the broad way than the narrow way.
	But we thank God that more and more people, if you are born again, you will receive the truth and come out.
	And we've seen this.
	We've worked a lot with so many free nations.
	And I have found that in a lot of free nations, they get into the lodge.
	And they're real believers because they're led into the lodge by their pastors and the elders.
	But when you have an opportunity to sit down with a man that is a born-again believer that's went into the lodge, they'll come out.
	Because you can show them right from their monitor that Freemasonry is pagan.
	And this is pretty much the same way with the Christian issue, that there is so much undeniable evidence that this is pagan, that this is wrong, that many born-again believers that have been entrapped into this practice, they're repenting and they're coming out and praise God for it.
	That's why we do what we do, because as we minister tonight on FOJC, it's God's desire to dwell with his people.
	He says, touch not the unclean thing, and as we separate ourselves from the unclean thing as a body, the presence of God is going to be with us in a more, a more powerful way, and that is the heart's cry of every born-again believer, to have more of Jesus in our life.
	Absolutely, David.
	Amen.
	Amen, David.
	And I got a book here.
	So we'll go over real quick.
	One more thing on the Christmas tree and about the wreath too.
	So, uh, I got both editions, uh, fossilized customs, the pagan sources of popular customs here, which the same book is just updated, uh, versions of each other.
	So here.
	I want to say something about that book.
	Oh, okay.
	That book, Blue White, and there's some things there we agree in, but that is the book.
	That attacked the name of Jesus as a pagan name.
	You know, that and that is a book that we warn people about all the time.
	There's a lot of things in it that we would agree with my and that is a book that come out of the Hebrew movement.
	And man, there is red hot poison in their toe.
	And I think in some of later editions that might be taken out, but This is one of the ones that popularized saying Bar-Zeus.
	That Jesus means Bar-Zeus.
	Oh.
	And, uh, you know, you know, we just really, there's just so much out there, but I'm sorry, I just... Oh, no, thank you for telling me.
	No wonder why they were saying Yeshua-Latner.
	Yeah, and a lot of it in there, there's a lot of things that we'd agree with.
	But, you know, my goodness, when we start saying that, my goodness, wow.
	And there's just...
	I mean, deception is just everywhere.
	Deception is just everywhere.
	And bless their hearts, I saw in one of our chat rooms on one of our not-too-long-ago presentations, there was some, and I'm sure a very honest-hearted individual, that says, well, I'm beginning to study whether or not Jesus is a pagan name.
	Well, Bless your heart, you don't have to study.
	Jesus is the name above all names.
	Just like on Dan's shirt, Yeshua is perfectly right and proper, his name in Hebrew.
	But my goodness, we have deceivers that are deceiving people into studying if Jesus' name is taken.
	My goodness.
	And his sacred name is, man?
	What a sad thing.
	They can't agree with themselves how to actually properly say a spell.
	They argue with each other.
	Then one thing I throw at him all the time, which ticks him off, is when Jesus returns, he's got a name written upon him that nobody knows.
	So how's that for you sacred namers out there?
	You know, it's like...
	You know, and the thing is, so, if somebody's in a, you know, Boston, down on the walk, and all they know him is by Jesus, so they call and pray upon him and all that, and if they mean to tell me that he's not gonna hear them because they call him Jesus, that's ridiculous.
	I cast away demons in the name of Jesus.
	Sorry, I mean like there's power in that name and it's more emanating from you know who you're calling He's not dumb.
	He's the Savior.
	He's you know, the the greatest universe.
	He's he's not dumb.
	You call him Messiah Savior manual Jesus Whatever hey Zeus, whatever the case you want to call in that case, you know, I mean like you're calling you summoning upon him He knows who you're talking about You know, it's unreal.
	But the tree, real quick, they were saying that in the Phoenician religious traditions during the northern Israel, well yeah, exploding in the world, and when northern Israel was expelled from the land 2,700 years ago, the wreath is the womb and the tree is the phallus symbol.
	So, and it goes back to, if you do, You know, the womb, which is Samorimus, it has Tammuz in the womb there.
	So, nativity symbol, fertility symbol of decorating, temples and homes, pagans during the Saturnalia.
	Believers began to use them and divert attention to blend in, but it's condemned by Yahweh, which would be condemned by God, which it is.
	And as don't be deceived by pagan traditions collisions to chapter 2 verse 8 don't be deceived by pagan traditions Which unfortunately these churches do this, you know all that stuff you'll tie the mistletoe the hollies Though the candles a light the pine healings and all that.
	It's all paganism.
	I And, uh, you know, if you go to pagan sources, like I said, you'll see this stuff.
	It goes back thousands of years.
	And, in fact, the Satanists here, um, Yule this year is on the 23rd.
	So, it's a high Satanic holiday, Yule.
	Yule Festival is 12 days, I think the festival is, whatever the case, but this is from a high-level Satanist.
	This has been going on, it's when the sun enters the sign of the goat, which represents Satan.
	That's what they believe, you know what I mean?
	So, these holidays, it goes right back to these guys, Samuels, which is his wife, Nimrod, and Tammuz, also known as Osiris, Isis, or Horus, you know what I mean?
	That's what it goes back to, Babylon, you know, that's where it all comes from.
	And Babylon is well within, and why do you think all this stuff came out of Rome?
	The modern day stuff polluting the Christian churches.
	Because Rome is nothing but a spirit from the Babylonian religion.
	The whole Catholic Church is about Rome.
	It's New Babylon, that's what it is.
	So that's where it all comes from, and that's how they inject it into Christians.
	You know, the thing is, here in America, like Dave was saying, right?
	Dick, I don't know.
	Last show, Dick, whatever it was.
	But anyway, here in America, most Christians, they didn't celebrate the stuff.
	Because they knew it was nothing to do with God.
	And they didn't have the Catholic influence yet until the 1800s when they rammed their stuff into this country.
	And then dispensationalism injected in after that.
	Between dispensationalism and Catholicism completely destroyed this country.
	We had the Ten Commandments at every state capital.
	They taught the Ten Commandments in churches, in school and everything else.
	But you wouldn't know that today because they took it all away.
	And that's why everything's so condiluted.
	And you got Christians out there, oh, we don't observe the Catholic churches.
	Oh, you don't?
	You go to church on Sundays, you honor these, uh, pagan holidays that came from the Catholic Church.
	So, don't tell me you have nothing to do with Catholicism.
	Oh, I'm a Baptist.
	Well, yeah, you may be a Baptist, but your church is following the Catholic doctrine.
	Because churches before that in this country, they didn't follow that garbage.
	And in most of this country, it was outlawed in this country by the Puritans.
	And rightfully so.
	It should be.
	Because there's six satanic colonies.
	David, could you imagine, like September for example, could you imagine that we go around, especially my area, could you imagine if I just go around cutting down trees and putting ornaments up and say, I'm celebrating Jesus' birthday.
	It's in September.
	I place it everywhere.
	I'm putting decorations everywhere and I'm singing Christmas carols and everything.
	Guess what's going to happen?
	You know, you're going, you know, I'm gonna be cutting trees down, right?
	And then here comes the cuffs.
	Be like, you need to get, sir, this is not, you can't be celebrating this.
	So, so think about that psychological programming.
	Just fast forward a few months in December and everybody, it's okay.
	But in September, I'm, I want to celebrate it.
	I'm putting trees up everywhere.
	And they wouldn't fly, right?
	They'd be like, this is a lunatic.
	He's insane.
	He needs to be put in a straitjacket.
	Right.
	He just, this guy's he's, he's absurd.
	He's going to people's houses and saying, can I put a tree in your house?
	The only thing flying would be Santa and the reindeer.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And they'd be like, uh, God bless you.
	It's September.
	It's September month or for celebrating our Lord and everybody be.
	They'd be calling the police, the FBI would show up and everything.
	You know what I'm saying?
	I mean, think about that.
	I just want to throw it out there.
	It's kind of funny, a little fun plug-in.
	But just think about the psychological narrative there.
	It's unreal.
	It's unreal.
	Yeah, David, I got your slides too, both sets if you want to get to any of those.
	And by the way guys, thank you for the donation.
	I want to announce too, if you notice you can't click on links no more on YouTube.
	So basically we got hit with a guideline strike two weeks ago because something passed the old Dean Orland said, can't repeat it.
	So we got hit with a strike.
	So now YouTube's taking repercussions on us.
	Same thing in John David's channel.
	So now you see TV.
	So we can't post postable links no more.
	Let's say YouTube channels.
	We can't post links.
	So we got the links to our donation page.
	And obviously you can't click on them no more.
	And it's really it really takes a hit on us.
	Because these shows survive on donations and all that to help this ministries out.
	So and I think this is attacked by the enemy.
	Because now you can't click on the link.
	So we got good to go around it so if you want the link you can't click on it because it's a long ko-fi site or PayPal if you go to my website truthradioshow.com right at the top of the page you're gonna see a ko-fi link or a PayPal link And we got the cash app and Venmo and all that.
	Which you can get that in the description.
	If you do want to make a donation go to truthradioshow.com.
	The links are right on the top of the page.
	We always got to stay two steps ahead of the enemy.
	Because they are really hammering us.
	On YouTube now they limited most of our features.
	We can't pin stuff in the chat no more.
	Create any polls or anything like that.
	So they're really coming down on us guys.
	And Rumble, I love Rumble and all that.
	Rumble's been giving us problems with the service because the streaming I don't know what's going on that happens with that you know David's channel too and all that so if you want to support us guys either my show Brian FOJC Radio or NiceTV just go to the websites directly guys and the PayPal things are right there and it helps us out a great deal it supplies the show and I thank you guys so much and without you guys without the Lord this show would not be possible so yeah David I got your slides which set you want to get into All right.
	And I just want to say, too, that, you know, we don't get on Danda neither, you know, pleading poverty and begging for money.
	But like Dan said, man, we're in a five-year, and the support, the financial support of people and donations is very, very important.
	We are truly, we're up against the giants, I guess you say, and the more The more that we have to up our game to try to do what we do, there's expense to it.
	So, thank you so much, all of you that contributed to Dan and to us to keep it going.
	It's very, very important.
	We are in a war.
	We certainly are.
	Yeah, and I wish I was rich or something.
	I wouldn't even have to, I wouldn't even put a page like that up, you know, and I got to work a full-time job at night for my family and everything else and do the Lord's work here and all that.
	So it's, um, yeah, we got to always, the enemy's always doing something to attack us.
	And, you know, what's the best thing they could do against us is try to cut our funding somehow because it costs a lot of money for these studios and anybody's been to the barn.
	You know what I'm talking about.
	In this studio here, it's a building we rent a space at.
	So other than that, I hate even asking that.
	And, you know, we're not crying proudly like David said, but these things are very important.
	And unlike our mainstream churches, they'll say, oh, the Lord says we want 10% of your money, and all of a sudden they make 10 grand that one day or something.
	That's ridiculous, you know.
	All we ask the Lord is just enough money to pay the rent and the bills here.
	And he does.
	Every month, he manages to make just enough to pay the capital, if you want to call it that.
	And, you know, I'm grateful for that.
	It's great.
	We're not making, none of us are making millions of dollars or living off the hog like some people accuse us of doing.
	That's not what we're about.
	We're here to do the large work.
	And, unfortunately, this stuff here costs money.
	It's crazy. - Thank you.
	So I think, Dan, I think these are some slides from Sister Donna.
	I don't think I've even, I've probably seen them before, but we'll just see what we got here.
	Which ones?
	The poopies?
	I don't care.
	I have no idea what you got there.
	It's something from Sister Donna.
	So we'll just see what we got.
	All right.
	So first we'll do the poop ones.
	Yeah.
	So the nativity scene.
	I don't know if you can see that.
	I can't see it.
	Is it the Cajuner?
	Yeah, the Cajuner, yep.
	Well, what Cajuners are?
	And this is something that is getting popular in America.
	It was a European thing.
	And it's basically nativity scenes.
	And within the nativity scene, there's a little elf or a little dwarf or somebody that's kind of off on the corner where it's not too noticeable, relieving themselves.
	And of course, this just speaks to, and here again, we're talking about defilement.
	and mockery of the things that are holy and this has become a very uh there's a little a popular cajuner thing and it's i mean it's nasty and this is just more of the the dark pagan christmas traditions that just keep escalating and you know that there we go there's the cajuners
	There's occasionally Jesus taking a poop, an elf taking a poop, some effigy taking a poop, even a queen.
	Oh, look at that.
	The queen.
	She's taking a poop, too.
	It's the way you say it, Dan.
	It's the way you say it.
	There you go.
	It is.
	Yeah.
	But, you know, you know, it's nasty.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's nasty.
	Hmm.
	Yep.
	The nativity scene, the guy in the outside of it taking a poop, taking a big dump.
	There's a, there's a one right there in the mall.
	I think you put this up last year too.
	That big statue inside the mall.
	And, uh, it's a Elfo guy with a beard.
	He's, uh, squatting down, taking a crap on the middle of the floor.
	Yeah.
	It's a big attraction at the mall there.
	Try that.
	Hey, listen, try that in Kentucky.
	I've seen that actually happen before at a Walmart one time.
	I'm just letting y'all know.
	Some woman broke bad one day in the aisle.
	It was around this time of the year, so maybe she was celebrating.
	I don't know.
	Go ahead, Brother David.
	Go ahead, Brother David.
	We're in a crazy world, aren't we, my friends?
	It's a mad, mad world.
	And there's a picture of the Pope Poop.
	The Poop Pope.
	David was going to say something.
	I cut him off too.
	Forgive me, David.
	Go ahead.
	No, I just... What can you say, man?
	There you go.
	What else we got there, Dan?
	What else did Sister Donna load in there for us?
	Yeah, you got the Pope there taking a crap.
	You got Benedict and then you got Francis taking a crap there.
	And yeah.
	Yeah, these Cajun as well.
	You said there's a European tradition there?
	Yeah, and it's becoming real popular in America.
	We've got Donald Trump caging her.
	So, you know, on and on and on and on and on.
	So it's just another, uh, some more just filth that is coming into this, this whole thing.
	So, you know, what can you say?
	And the next slide I got here, it's got shows a few slides of kids crying next to Santa.
	Then it goes into Krampus and all that.
	Yeah.
	And Krampus.
	In all of the early depictions of Krampus, he terrifies children.
	And this is just a very, very sick aspect of it.
	And some of the pictures of Krampus, when mom and dad are welcoming Krampus in on Christmas Eve, the children are terrified, hiding under the tables and things like this.
	So yeah, Krampus, my goodness, this is just another one of the blatantly demonic aspects of this whole Christmas scenario.
	Then you got a slide here of Moloch and people putting infants into his burning hands.
	And yeah.
	No, these like, um, pagan things.
	Yeah.
	The ones they want though, called the hag and they got, um, other versions of Krampus and all that.
	That always bothered me, man.
	It's like, why would you tell your child that if you don't be good, he's going to come eat you and put you in a sack and beat you up.
	You're like, what kind of deranged people tell their children?
	Yeah.
	That terrifies the kids.
	Uh, parroting skills.
	Isn't it?
	Yeah, I did a show a couple years ago on Christmas, it was called The Gods of Christmas, lowkey issue of course, and I went through all those European customs and all that, all the hag, the ugly old lady, just different people, different entities, they tell kids that they're gonna come get you if you don't be a good boy.
	Yeah.
	This goes, I think this one thing goes, you know, you obviously got a Baphomet, you know, image there.
	And also, you know, let's just face it, cryptic creatures and everything, the whole ball of wax.
	And then the Krampus too, I just want to throw this out here, isn't it well known in Austria, Australia, excuse me, Australia.
	And it's supposed to be well known down there, brother David and Dan, and it's supposed to be like a big event.
	They have like candies, chocolates, everything.
	Like a big old parade and everything.
	They had parades.
	I mean, you can find video footage of some of the Krampus parades in Europe.
	You talk about bizarre.
	It's over the top crazy.
	I mean, you talk about, um, you know, anyone with a brain in their head, you watch this man.
	It's demonic, demonic, demonic on steroids.
	It's crazy.
	I hope I said it right.
	I thought it was in Australia where they celebrate it, but you're saying Europe too, correct?
	Now, were you talking about Krampus?
	Yeah, Krampus.
	I don't really know about Australia.
	They probably do, but I know in Europe.
	They're really over in the Austria, France, Germany, Switzerland.
	This is a really, really a big deal.
	They have the towns will have a Krampus parade and they'll dress up and all of these bizarre.
	It was Austria, brother.
	How are you?
	Okay.
	Yes.
	Probably Austria.
	Thank you, Harold.
	Yeah.
	Thank you, Harold.
	The German Christmas devil.
	Yeah.
	That's really big there in that Europe.
	Hmm.
	And are we going to take any questions tonight, Dan?
	Yeah.
	And I don't mean to rush you.
	Brian, why don't you message that young Pounders boy and see if he's home yet, if he wants to come on.
	Get him in here and hear from that young man this evening.
	Sure.
	Anyway, doing that quick, I want to bring up two.
	And I'm not saying, guys, that if your name is Nick or Nicholas, whatever, I'm not saying at all that you're evil because I know people just take it to an owner level.
	So, yeah, if you look up the name, you know, old Saint Nick.
	That's, uh, they call Santa Claus and everything, right?
	There's a reason for that, right?
	And, uh, it's a chief spirit of evil and adversary of God, tempter of mankind, masters of hell.
	Uh, the definition of Old Nick, Old Satan Nick.
	It's a Judeo-Christian or Islamic religions, whatever.
	Uh, synonymous with Beelzebub, Devil, Lucifer, Prince of Darkness, Satan, and Tempter.
	That's where, and again, we're not saying if your name is Nick, we're not saying you're evil.
	But, and he has a slang to trick, cheat, or defraud.
	The slang for Nick.
	And why is Santa Claus Old Nick?
	And hence, at least according to what I've read on the subject, the name Old Nick is in fact derived from Saint Nicholas, the Bishop of Myra, who is also the origin of Santa Claus, used barely by American Puritans to distance themselves from the festivities of Christmas.
	And also, if you are, I forgot to put the slide up, I did it years ago.
	I don't go too much into Jumatra and all that stuff.
	If you take the word Santa Claus, it's an anagram, you can flip it around and it says Satan Lucas.
	What does Lucas mean?
	Bright and misleading light.
	So, and if you would, Satan Lucas or Santa Claus, whatever you want to call it.
	And the sixth sequence equals 666.
	Not a coincidence, huh?
	And well, they call themselves Father Christmas.
	So, it's a deception.
	And it's also Chief Spirit.
	If you don't remember the movie, Adam Sandler, Little Nicky.
	He was the son of the devil.
	You know, so... I do remember that.
	And again, we're not saying I have to emphasize that.
	If your name is Nicholas or something, we're not saying you're evil or you're the devil.
	That's just what the terms are used in that particular category.
	So, um... What if you happen to be Nicholas Cage?
	Yeah.
	So, yeah, we'll take some... Nicholas Cage, if you're listening tonight, we're sorry about your little self, you know.
	Yeah, poor David's probably exhausted here.
	I am.
	You know, I'm liable to start getting silly here, Dan.
	That's why if there's any questions, I might do a few, but I'm running out of time.
	Most people know we did about an hour and a half of show on FOJC tonight, and I would be interested to hear some questions or a little input back from the listeners tonight.
	Um, but I know I don't have a lot more gas in the tank here.
	So.
	Hmm.
	All right, guys.
	I didn't mention John too.
	So he's waiting on a reply brother.
	Okay.
	So guys, when you are calling all happy to hear from John, when you're calling guys, if you get the call tonight, just don't call back.
	We got your number on car ID.
	This way it doesn't jam up the phone lines.
	So again, if you call and you don't get through right away, just don't keep calling.
	Just, um, just hold tight and we'll get back to you.
	Yeah, Jason said get David 100 cc's of caffeine stat.
	Yeah, well I still got me a little here Jason, but there's a point where even the coffee doesn't smack you back, and I'm almost to that point, but coffee helps.
	I like my coffee.
	We got Brother Tim!
	Woo!
	Woo!
	How's it going guys?
	Pretty good.
	Alright, drink to you as always.
	You know, it's always around this time of year I end up getting a Krampus in my Sasquatch.
	Oh, man.
	It's just something about the holiday spirit.
	You know, you can feel it in the air.
	Actually, you know, the day would come and go if I wasn't reminded a month in advance.
	And every day up until it arrives would just be another day gone.
	Come and go.
	All these holidays.
	Absolutely.
	So you had a question for David?
	Nah, just breaking the ice, being the first caller.
	I want to thank you, David, for all your work and research and coming on the show and being with us again.
	Pleasure to have you.
	Great job as always.
	Well, I'm always thankful to be here.
	I feel right at home always when I'm here with Dan and Brian and just feel at home.
	So, thank you for letting me be with you.
	All right.
	I'll let someone else call in.
	Love to everybody in the chat and whoo!
	Whoo!
	So, it's Brother Tim.
	So, anybody else wants to call in, I'll put the number in the chat too.
	So, Next thing YouTube will stop us from doing that.
	I don't want to give him any ideas, but there's a number of guys.
	So yeah, give us a call if you've got a question.
	Uh, I think you guys seen some questions in the chat room.
	I missed.
	So if you've got a question guys, and you don't want to call, uh, put it in capital letters in the chat room.
	So it's brother Mike.
	Hey, what's up brother?
	Hello?
	Hey Mike, you there?
	He's not calling back.
	I know he has problems with his phone a lot.
	There you are.
	All right.
	Hello?
	Hey Mike, how you doing brother?
	I'm doing good.
	How are you guys?
	Pretty good.
	So you got a question for David?
	That was a good program tonight.
	I just It's so hard to believe that churches are duped by this Christmas stuff.
	I mean, Jeremiah 10, it says, learn not the way of the heathen, and Jesus never celebrated his birthday on December 20.
	He never celebrated his birthday at all.
	It's just ridiculous.
	Like, I've heard people, you know, well, I'm going to celebrate my Lord and Savior, Jesus, his birth.
	He never told you to celebrate his birth.
	Can we get back to what Jesus said?
	Like David said one time, the dummies, they won't do what Jesus did do, the Feast of Tabernacles and the other feasts of the Lord, but they'll do stuff like Christmas, Easter, and Halloween.
	And make excuses for it.
	Yeah, no wonder the churches are such a mess.
	Yeah, and dare you mention the commandments, you'll get a whole spiel, oh, we're not under the law no more, and, you know, oh man, it's crazy.
	I don't know if we can get to that right now, but yeah.
	You're right, brother.
	Well, and then in the Gospels, where he says, if you love me, keep my commandments.
	You know?
	And even in the book of Revelation, I mean, the last book of the Bible, you know?
	Uh, and the dragon was wroth with the woman and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
	Well, if you're not supposed to keep the commandments, why is the last book in the Bible, the resurrected Jesus, telling us stuff like that?
	I guess we need to keep the commandments of God.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah now Revelation 14 12 says the same thing keep the community for the Saints to keep the commandments to God in the faith in Jesus and that text there it just yeah, it's just Israel so the What I keep the command what I'm like, um, David, so I'm sorry.
	Oh But they keep the commandments of God and the doctrine of Christ, and that's the only remnant of Israel there is.
	It isn't like there's some other remnant of Israel out there that doesn't keep the commandments or the doctrine of Christ.
	The remnant of Israel will keep the commandments of God and the doctrine of Christ.
	That is the mark of God's true Israel.
	Wow!
	And we're part of that Israel because we've accepted Jesus and we endure till the end.
	That's so true.
	The crampon thing, what is that?
	That's a demon or something?
	Yeah, it's some folklore that they scare kids with, but yeah, ultimately it's a demon.
	They call it the German Devil.
	Sick stuff, man.
	Yeah, that's crazy.
	I mean, why would you... Well, that's just like telling your kids about Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny or the tooth... Why would you do that?
	None of those things are real, and why would you lie to your kids?
	Yeah.
	It's unreal, brother.
	So... Well, yeah, so...
	Yeah, thank you for the call, brother.
	Oh yeah, I know you want to pray, right?
	That's awesome.
	Yeah, you guys, I'll pray for you.
	Yes, thank you.
	And God, please just help Dan and just touch and strengthen him.
	And help him as he wait-lives, keep him safe.
	And God, just help his brother Jason, help him with his radio program.
	And God, just be with Brother Brian and touch and heal him with his health issues.
	And God, just heal Brian's dad of cancer.
	And God, if he doesn't know Jesus somehow, someway, God, please save him.
	And God, be with Brother David.
	And God, help him and Donna.
	And thank you, God, for their ministry.
	And God, just keep David and Donna safe and help everybody at the Puritan Mark.
	And God, please help John Pounders be with him, and please help him.
	Amen.
	Amen.
	Thank you, brother.
	And thank you, brother, so much.
	Bless you, man.
	Thank you, guys.
	Love you, guys.
	Love you, too, brother.
	Okay, in the chat room before we get to the calls, From UniqueZeroHeaven asks... Hang on a second.
	No, it's not.
	It's gonna be YouTube.
	Oh, there it is.
	What are the consequences for having certain items in your house?
	God bless you.
	Well, we have had many, many.
	I'll give one example of a lady in Cincinnati.
	And her husband passed away, and he had been a Grand Commander of the Knights Templar in Freemasonry.
	And he had a ceremonial sword that was quite expensive that he used in rituals.
	They will hold the, you will take a false communion, and you will, in the Royal Arch, And you would say the name of God is Jabulon, which is a cross between Osiris, Baal, and the God of the Bible.
	And she had this very expensive jewel sword that he used in initiations.
	He held it to men's throats as they took this demonic oath.
	And she was having, she called us from a hotel.
	She was having so many crazy things, poltergeist things going on in her home.
	She called us from a hotel, but we started questioning her, and she started telling us about this, and it was obvious, this needs to go out of your home.
	And this was like in Deuteronomy 7, we're talking about the cursed object.
	And when she put that out of her home and prayed and renounced, these things stopped.
	There can be, you know, I'll read the scripture in the 7th chapter of Deuteronomy.
	I got into this tonight on FOJC, and it says in Deuteronomy 7, 25, the graven images of their gods Shall ye burn with fire, thou shalt not desire the silver or gold that is on them, nor take it unto thee, lest thou be smeared therein, for it is an abomination of the Lord thy God.
	Neither shalt thou bring an abomination into thine house, lest thou be a cursed thing like it.
	But thou shalt utterly detest it, and thou shalt utterly abhor it, for it is a cursed thing.
	Right there, you'll be a cursed thing like it.
	You don't bring, and you know, here you go, well, we've got this tree, you know, it doesn't hurt.
	Well, yes, it does.
	There's spiritual consequences for these pagan practices, and it will cause you spiritual problems, and it can even go so far as causing poltergeist, demonic manifestations in your home.
	Absolutely, and this is just common sense.
	We don't need to have the things that are associated with pagan worship in our home.
	Another example, we encountered a young married couple that had only been married a few months, and they came to us with the same story.
	You know, we've got crazy things going on in our home.
	We're seeing shadow people and all kinds of crazy things.
	We went up to their home, and they said, will you come up and walk through and see what you see?
	And we did, and they're above their bed.
	They had a whip and an African death mask.
	And they weren't into crazy things.
	It ain't nothing like that.
	They weren't into the S and M or nothing, but they, someone gave them that and they thought, well, boy, this looks cool.
	And we'll just put it up here to decorate her bedroom.
	And it was definitely having a toxic influence in a crazy way on their home.
	And they destroyed that.
	And here again, that was something probably hadn't Good bit of value to it.
	I don't know, but anyway, they burned it, got rid of it, and these things came to an end.
	So it is very important that we practice good spiritual hygiene in our home.
	And it's just common sense, isn't it?
	That we don't want the things of Satan in our home.
	And when we have books that we use to expose the evil one, and we always pray over them to cast anything, any attachments off of them, because that's our dead set goal, is to bring people out of these practices.
	So, it definitely does matter what you have in your home, what you bring into your home, Don't bring the cursed object into your home.
	Touch not the unclean thing and I will accept you.
	Is the word of the Lord.
	There's a big reason for that guys.
	Spiritual ramifications.
	225 number.
	We'll call you back here.
	Hi, this is Daniel Arnia.
	What's your name?
	Oh, this is Andre.
	Andre, how you doing?
	Pureton Leather in the chat.
	Oh, hey, Pureton Leather.
	How you doing, brother?
	Yeah, nice to talk to you, man.
	Thanks for reaching out to me last night.
	I appreciate that.
	Oh, absolutely.
	Hey, you do some good work, brother.
	I appreciate it, man.
	So I just had a couple of points.
	First of all, I appreciate you and Brother David for your integrity to the work of God and for Showing that the way is straight and that we can trust in the word of God and not allowing confusion to come in and not allowing leaven to bubble up and to take over the sheep of the Most High God.
	Because the sheep belong to Christ and whoever is preaching to the sheep of Christ, you know, they belong to the Lord.
	They don't belong to us.
	And we have to do His will.
	You know, that is so true, and... It's not very safe.
	What you say there is... Word of God.
	I mean, I don't want to tear him down or anything, but I do want to tear down the worst argues.
	And, you know... In John, I will say this when we reply to Mr. Puritan Leather there.
	Well, what you know tonight, we are responding to controversy and conflict, and there are many people that are just calling us Torah heads and that we're the creators of conflict.
	But I would say that the people that are trying to bring paganism into the Israel of God, they're the ones creating the conflict.
	And in John chapter 10, Jesus distinguished between the true and the false shepherd.
	Well, in verse 11 he said, I am the good shepherd.
	The good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
	But he that is a hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth.
	And the wolf catches them, and scatters the sheep.
	The hireling fleeth, because he is a hireling, and careth not for the sheep.
	I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of them.
	And that's the thing, the difference between a true shepherd and a hireling, they'll fight the wolf.
	You know, and sometimes when you see the wolf carrying off, misleading the sheep, sometimes you just gotta stand and fight the wolf.
	Amen.
	Um, can you guys hear me?
	The phone hung up.
	I don't know what happened there, but... Yep.
	Yeah, you got cut off.
	Okay.
	Yeah, just, you know, if you go down in Jeremiah just a little bit to chapter 23 and verse 16, you know, it says, Thus saith the Lord of hosts, hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you.
	They make you vain.
	They speak a vision of their own heart and not out of the mouth of the Lord.
	They say still unto them that despise me, the Lord has said, you shall have peace.
	And they say to everyone that walketh after the imagination of his own heart, no evil shall come upon you.
	If you go down to verse 21, it says, I have not seen these prophets, yet they ran.
	I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied.
	But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused my people to hear my words, then they should have turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings.
	And what stood out to me about what Mr. Dean Odell said, is he said that he knew it was the Spirit of the Lord that led him to this thing.
	And he said that he knew it was the Lord because he was going to people
	In his little congregation, and he was telling them it was okay to go and do this with their families and Here just a little down from Jeremiah chapter 10 It said that a real prophet of the Lord, you know, if the Spirit of God is seen forth, he's going to turn people from the evil and that's obviously not what was done in that video that he put forth and
	Which just reminds me of, you know, Matthew, in the book of Matthew, when Christ rebuked Peter.
	Because he said, you know, Get thee behind me, Satan.
	Thou art an offense unto me.
	For thou savest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
	If any man will come after thee, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
	And it's easy to prophesy.
	It's easy to preach, to minister to the idols in people's hearts.
	But we're not here for the love of man.
	We're here, we have to have a love for God and offer His truth first and foremost.
	The Word says that it's those who have a love for the truth who are kept from the evil, and that those who don't have a love of the truth, it talks about how the Lord gives them over.
	And that's the main thing I wanted to say.
	I don't want to take too long, but I really appreciate you guys.
	Thank you too, brother.
	Alright, love you guys.
	Love you too, brother.
	Thank you so much, man.
	You be blessed.
	No problem, man.
	See ya.
	Some good phone calls here.
	507 next.
	So... Let's try this.
	What's up, Brian?
	We're the only show that calls you back.
	We're the only show that calls you back.
	Hello?
	Hi, this is Dan Urania.
	What's your name?
	Stacey.
	Stacey?
	Yes.
	Hey, how are you?
	Good, and you?
	Oh, pretty good.
	That's great.
	I was listening to your discussion about the items that were bothering people.
	Were they Christians?
	Because I was under the understanding I'm a Christian.
	And nothing can exist in me because I'm sealed by Christ.
	And so, are these non-Christians or kind of nominal Christians who start having problems and want to get help from the Church?
	Oh, you want to answer that, David?
	What's that?
	Oh, David?
	Are you asking David, or...?
	Well, sure!
	Yeah, David, that would be great.
	Okay, well, and as I understand Stacey's question about the people that are doing these things, are they real believers, nominal believers?
	And there's no pat answer in every situation.
	I think like when I was a new believer and I went to church, everyone was celebrating Christmas and I did too because I didn't even think about it being wrong.
	Until one day, it was brought to my attention that there was a problem here.
	And that's the way with so many people.
	And the Bible says in Romans 3 and 20, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
	And when we know the truth of God's law about things that are wrong, the Holy Spirit will bring conviction.
	And at that point, real accountability comes into our life.
	I think there's other instances of people that don't know the That they're just, they just don't know Him.
	So there's no pat answer in every situation.
	Okay, but what I wanted, David, you to answer, I have a problem with deliverance ministries that say, oh, real Christians can have demons in them.
	And I don't believe that, because I feel that we are sealed.
	We are seated with Christ.
	When we really submit to Christ, when we've given Him our life, we die in Christ.
	Is that Hebrews?
	I can't think of it, but we die to ourselves, and it is now His life that lives through us.
	Yeah, and believers, after they come to Christ, they certainly can come into demonic bondage.
	And you know, whether He's in us, behind us, on top of us, when believers, they're not bubble boy and bubble girl.
	That they can participate in the things of paganism and not be affected by it.
	Well, I agree with that as well, except I'm running into these deliverance ministries, and they actually say if you sin once in your life, you're now demonically possessed, and I feel like that nullifies Christ's work on the cross!
	Right, yeah, that is just crazy.
	Of almost everyone we minister to, we have to deal with the bad ministry that people get.
	And my goodness, the things that are being said by so-called deliverance ministries are absolutely crazy.
	I mean, it is just absolutely insane.
	What would your recommendation be for me?
	Sadly, there's a couple that have listened to these people, and they don't act like Jesus.
	They scream at people, their own children, and it's, for me, it's heartbreaking, because I feel as though they're being led astray by these deliverance ministries, and they said, oh, we had all these demons, and now we're running a deliverance ministry, and I thought, even the Apostle Paul left for 14 years to get him, and he knew tons of the Torah!
	And so, them jumping into it, and not crucifying their flesh, And if they had demons, I just wonder if they even were Christians.
	Well, you know, and I think there's probably a lot of cases that they would not be.
	And, you know, we're all accountable.
	You know, the Bible says that he is going to kill Jezebel and her children.
	We are responsible who we listen to, who we follow, who we support.
	We will be accountable.
	And when you look at the craziness out there, and I know there are so many examples, we My goodness like well and I'll just not get started.
	There are so many examples, but, you know, we will be held accountable.
	And all we can do is try to bring people back to the real Jesus.
	And whenever a person truly repents, the devil's got to go.
	Deliverance is really a very simple proposition, but it has many nuances to it.
	When you renounce and repent, the evil one has to go.
	Amen.
	And it's that simple.
	And that's it.
	Well, I really appreciate your answer.
	Thank you so much.
	God bless you.
	I'll just keep giving them Bible verses.
	She doesn't seem to like it too much.
	I feel like if they're going to pick and choose, I have to respond in love, because Jesus Christ, He was so gentle, and yet He was firm at the same time.
	Absolutely.
	And I don't think we should be violent or screaming at people.
	That's not going to win anyone to Christ.
	No, that does no good whatsoever.
	And it gets very frustrating with all believers, I know.
	But we just have to realize, as we stand and bear witness of the things of God, that more people are going to go wrong than go right.
	The Bible tells us that few there are that will be saved, that there's going to be on the broad way, there's going to be many.
	On the narrow road, there are few.
	And we, it's he that hath an ear, let him hear.
	We put forth the truth of God.
	We're fishers of men, and we just keep fishing, and truth will find a home in those So we just keep doing it.
	And we can't become frustrated when people go wrong because we know what's in the book, that most people are going to go that broad way.
	Well, God bless you for that.
	And the next time you're on, I will probably try to pick your ears.
	Thank you.
	Thank you so much, Stacey.
	Thank you.
	God bless.
	Thank you, sister.
	You'll be blessed.
	Thank you.
	Alright, so Craig Daniel, 714 number and Bill Connell up here.
	Brother Craig, excuse my call.
	Yeah, frequent callers, I saved their names in the caller ID.
	The only show that does that.
	Yeah, the only show that does that.
	There's certain things you get here that you don't get anywhere else, you know.
	What's up, Brother Craig?
	Hey, how y'all doing?
	Pretty good.
	Hey, Greg.
	Hey, Brian.
	How are you?
	Yeah.
	I had a question for Brother David.
	I just wanted to know, in his opinion, when Jesus was born, does he think that it could be September 11th?
	Because it seems like that's a day that's really picked on a lot, you know, for various reasons.
	I just wanted to get his thought that maybe he may have at least been born sometime in September.
	Well, thank you for that.
	And I would I on tonight on our FOTC radio broadcast, I read John 114 and the word was made flesh.
	And dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory as of the only begotten Son of God, full of grace and truth.
	And that word, dwelt, means tabernacled.
	And I believe, and this is just me, well it's not just me, there's others, I believe that Jesus was born on the Feast of Tabernacles.
	I believe that when he came forth into the world, it was on the Feast of Tabernacles.
	And we dealt with, on the show I did with John, Mr. Odell Hughes, He was quoting another individual that took Luke 1 and 6, where it says that Zacharias, John's Baptist father, was of the order of Abib.
	And it calculated the order of Abib to come out the word Jesus was born on December 25th.
	Then I read a quote from the Catholic Encyclopedia.
	that are arguing for the December 25th date that said that this was Jewish tradition and unreliable.
	The Catholics won't even use that.
	And then we presented a much more scholarly and reliable calculation from the Course in the Bead that put Jesus being born exactly on the Feast of Tabernacles.
	I will not argue about it.
	I will not, and I can't make this some date to make another movement around, but I'll say, for me, that's what I believe.
	And I have good reasons to believe that, and I'm not the only person that does believe that, but I would agree with you there.
	I think there in September, that is what I believe.
	Well, thank you.
	Um, for, uh, answering my question.
	Well, you're so welcome, sir.
	Thank you.
	Yeah.
	And, uh, uh, that's just wanted to comment on Dean Odell.
	Uh, I don't wish him any, any bad luck or anything.
	Uh, he was wrong in what he said and You know, there's nothing wrong with loving the old Torah.
	And, uh... And, uh... That's all I had.
	And, uh... I wish you a Shabbat Shalom.
	You too.
	Shabbat Shalom.
	And we certainly wish him no ill either.
	And, um... We just have to... You know, we just have to stand where we stand.
	And, uh... There it is.
	Yes, sir.
	Thank you, Craig.
	Alright.
	Thank you, Craig.
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	Yep.
	So, um, who's next?
	I'm gonna get a call back.
	Assume that you have the 714 number.
	So let's call you up.
	Your call has been forwarded to voicemail.
	The person you're trying to reach is not available.
	All right, so...
	Is it just me, Dan, or...
	Every time the voicemails, everywhere you call now, just get different voicemail AI.
	Yeah.
	Like it used to be the same default, now it's like 15 different ones.
	Isn't that kind of weird?
	Yeah, I feel that.
	A little bit file out under creepy.
	Yeah.
	Yes, sir.
	Yes, sir, David.
	Hi, this is Dan, you alright?
	Yeah, what's your name?
	Hi Dan, this is Chloe.
	Hi Chloe!
	Hi Brother Dan, hi Brother Brian.
	Hey Chloe.
	I have a question for, I guess all three of y'all, but I suppose more specifically for Brother David.
	So, there are kind of three tiers of people I've encountered regarding Christmas.
	There's the first tier, which is composed of people who either don't believe it has taken influence at all, or They know it has taken influences, and they believe that Christianity, we just kind of appropriated it, right?
	And then there's a second tier, which is composed of people who know that it has taken influences, and refuse to participate, and would rather keep the feasts of the Lord.
	And then there's this strange kind of third tier that I'm just coming across recently, and I don't know if y'all have come across it or not, but it's composed of people who have left Both the first and the second.
	And now they're starting to kind of backtrack in a way and believe that Christmas no longer has any pagan origins.
	And I was just kind of wondering, I don't personally believe this myself, but I was just kind of wondering, Brother David, what your personal opinion on this strange new third tier is.
	And I apologize, I couldn't hear that real well.
	Dan, can you kind of rephrase that for me so I can understand the question?
	Absolutely.
	Okay, now I can hear you.
	Okay, my apologies, sir.
	So there's this strange new tier of people I'm encountering lately who keep the feasts of the Lord, And understand that the law is not abolished, but yet they are returning to believing that Christmas no longer has any kind of pagan influences on it.
	Okay, let me speak to that just real quickly before you go on.
	We mentioned earlier a little bit about, you know, Mr. Odell will use the phrase for people like Dan and Brian and I. Torah heads and Torah terrorists.
	Well, in the Hebrew root movement, the Hebrew messianic sacred name, take your pick movement, there is a big move back towards celebrating Christmas.
	And I see this more and more and you've seen it.
	And we are absolutely not Hebrew root.
	We have nothing to do with that.
	The basic premise of the Hebrew root, when you come in, well, don't you know that the name of God has been taken out of the King James Bible, which is a big porky, and then we're going to get you into some kind of apostate Bible translation, and it goes from there.
	You bring in, when you bring in the teachings of unregenerate Jewish rabbis, The biblical definition of the Spirit of Antichrist is denying that Jesus Christ rose, came in the flesh, which all Jewish rabbis do because they heart-blunt reject Jesus Christ as the Son of God.
	Now, we, having said that, basically what we believe, we take the basic biblical position on the Law of God that was taken by Spurgeon, Wesley, you know, pick one.
	We're in line with the historic framework of the real Orthodox Christian Church, and that's what we do.
	So yeah, there's mass confusion.
	out in Hebrew root world.
	You know, they'll say, well, we believe in Torah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Here's my Christmas tree.
	There's mass confusion.
	There's nonsense.
	You know, what we're teaching is biblical Christianity and a honest, hearted response from the Spirit of God to be pleasing to God's law.
	So, I got that out and along now.
	All right.
	Well, thank you, brother.
	I was just wondering your opinion.
	This third tier is, as Brother Brian likes to say, just baffling.
	So thank you for your opinion.
	I appreciate it.
	Well, thank you very much.
	And it is baffling.
	God bless you all, and have a wonderful Sabbath.
	Thank you, too, sister.
	Bye bye.
	Bye.
	I skipped my buddy Dan, so I apologize.
	I'll call you right back next, Dan.
	714 number.
	Sorry, Amita, I think her name is.
	Hello? - Hello?
	Hi sister, how are you?
	Hey, hi there.
	I don't know how I missed it earlier because I had the phone in my hand.
	I just didn't hear it ring.
	But first of all, I wanted to say thank you for the subjects you guys talk about.
	Because as a child, I was always told I was crazy.
	My mother never believed me.
	And I had some crazy experiences in her house when I was a kid.
	I saw the exorcist when I was really young.
	I got pushed into it, you know, peer pressure.
	And I regretted it.
	It scared the daylights out of me.
	And about a year after I had, you know, watched the movie, I was asleep.
	And my body literally elevated to the ceiling.
	I mean, it literally went all the way up.
	And I just remember opening my eyes and looking up, thinking, where is it going to stop?
	My body can't go through the ceiling.
	And it dropped me.
	I flew down and I fell on my back.
	I couldn't breathe.
	I could not turn over to catch my breath because I fell so hard on the floor.
	And I was like gasping for air.
	I was finally able to turn over to get air and I crawled to my mom's house, I mean her room, and she would not believe me.
	So About a year after that, I had a dream of this ruff.
	So he would, like, jump over on one of the bedrooms, and I was, like, after him with a sword, and it was like I was mad.
	I was gonna... I was gonna kill him.
	I mean, it was... I was after him, and I had this righteous anger, and I was gonna get rid of him, and as he jumped from room to room, then he kind of, like, melted into my stepfather's chair.
	He turned into like a roaring lion.
	It was really strange.
	Does that sound crazy or what?
	That's pretty wild, but it's also very spiritually accurate that Satan, you know, in the scripture it talks about when the unclean spirit goes out of a person, it'll try to return to the house and bring seven more wicked spirits.
	And certainly that is the attitude we all should have, is just a hatred and a zealous pursuit of Satan and all of his ways.
	And also, there were, Satan was able just to move into this chair.
	Satan, whenever we leave, the Bible says, get no place to the devil, but wherever there is a place for him, he will take advantage of it.
	So that is why we have to shut the doors and remove anything that Satan can attach himself to.
	Right.
	Yeah, it was really crazy.
	And after I became an adult, I was still, I was getting sleep paralysis and I was getting it like twice a week.
	It was getting really serious.
	And now this is as an adult and I ended up, getting baptized about five years ago and it came back in my room and tried to paralyze me again.
	And what I did, I mean, I was like, oh no, oh no.
	My husband knew that if I murmured anything, he would jump up and kind of push me, try to break me out of it.
	Well, he wasn't moving.
	It didn't wake him up and I was trying to scream.
	And I kid you're not going to believe this.
	I kid you not.
	It was like an angel.
	It was glowing in the figure of a man behind me.
	Mind you, I don't know how I saw him because it was behind me, but I saw 360 degree.
	He was behind me and he said, tell them who you are.
	And I went, Oh my gosh, I'm the child of the most high.
	And when I said that, this like cloak fell off of it and I saw the ugliest I've ever seen.
	Mind you, I now know that Hollywood does not imagine what those demons look like that they portray.
	They know what they look like, because that's what they look like.
	That's what I saw.
	And ever since that day, I've never had another sleep paralysis, and now I do deliverance, and now I'm a warrior for the Lord.
	Amen.
	I have people that call me and I do it through Zoom.
	So yeah, he was telling me what my calling was and what I'm gonna do.
	So now I'm doing deliverances.
	Amen.
	Don't a church be like, oh no, you gotta go to a deliverance school or become a Catholic priest.
	But yeah, God bless you.
	That's awesome.
	I want to thank you guys because I've learned so much and I mean from every single one of you.
	From you Dan, from you Brian, from you David Carrico, John Pounders, I mean all you guys.
	I've learned from all you guys.
	All your research has been amazing.
	You guys go into deep dives that I can't even name anybody that I think does as much as you guys do and you guys stay connected and I just love it and just want you guys to know that Cuts is blessing you guys and will continue to bless you and I pray that he protects you and puts a wall of fire protection around you guys and gives you guys grace Mercy and favor wherever you guys go, and I love you guys, and thank you.
	In Jesus' name, I pray.
	Amen.
	Love you too, sister.
	Thank you.
	Stay on fire, sister.
	I will.
	Take care.
	Bye-bye.
	Bye-bye.
	Well, Dan and Ryan, I am going to humbly ask for you to excuse me.
	We're here.
	We're two hours and 40 minutes in.
	And I think it's about time for me to get off here before I get just plum silly.
	I just want to say thank you, Dan.
	Uh, for having me on.
	It's always a joy.
	Yes.
	Thanks to all of your listeners.
	And, um, just want to say, uh, we, we love Dan appreciating and it's always a joy to be here.
	And, um, just thank you, Dan, for having me on.
	Yeah.
	And I thank you, you and the sister Don.
	I love you guys.
	Yeah.
	Bless you both.
	Don't forget.
	Don't forget about Sunday.
	Don't forget about Sunday night.
	Okay.
	Well, we might just say that Sunday night on a FOJC radio on a rumble channel.
	We're going to be, a young lady is going to be doing a presentation called The Origin of the Hail Mary.
	This is really some fresh material.
	This young lady is 22 years old, Gillian Stone.
	We're thankful, our prayer-a-thon, my co-host on the prayer-a-thon is just 24 years old on Christmas Eve.
	Gillian coming on 22 years old, that does my heart good.
	And that'll be on our FOJC Radio Rumble Channel, Sunday night at 6pm.
	No, it'll be, excuse me, 8pm Central Time.
	So, tune in and be a part of that.
	Support this young lady and pray for her.
	And, you know, we're just so thankful for everything the Lord's doing.
	So, with that, I just want to say high five and good night from me this evening.
	And Dan, you just carry on.
	God bless you with all.
	So we love you bunches.
	Love you too, brother.
	Bye bye.
	Bye, David.
	Bye, Brian.
	It's an awesome show.
	So, yeah, we've got two more callers here.
	So my brother, my brother, Daniel, DJ.
	Yeah, I love having David on.
	It's awesome.
	It's been three or four years now, man.
	It's crazy.
	Hey.
	What's up, brother?
	What's happening?
	Yeah, don't worry.
	I won't let it happen again.
	I know I skipped you.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I want to slide this time, but, you know, I'm just back, man.
	How's your brother doing?
	Oh, good.
	He's right here.
	Family's good.
	I can't say Merry Christmas.
	I think that would be shunned in this chat today.
	How's it going?
	If it happens again, I'll get him with the steel chair.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You know, uh, let it be known, you know, nobody skips over in the man.
	Okay.
	Just saying.
	Anyway.
	Uh, I don't even know.
	I don't even remember why I was calling him.
	Um, oh, so, uh, I think a lot of people get confused with, uh, the Krumpus and Saint Nick.
	Now, I know there's gonna be a lot of people rolling their eyes in the chat.
	There's gonna be a lot of packing back and forth.
	I really care.
	Uh, so, we know Saint Nick was a real person.
	Um, we have evidence of that, though he's not written in the Bible.
	Um, he's, he's a known figure as to be a saint.
	After his death, he wasn't a saint during his life.
	He was Christian.
	Matter of fact, he was severely tortured during, I believe it was the Constantine years, of his Christian beliefs.
	He was not of this new paganism.
	He wasn't with it, and so he spoke out about it, and because he was, he was He was jailed, he was beaten and tortured.
	But he was a real person.
	The Krumpus is an evil, that's been hijacked.
	The Krumpus is evil, demonic, as you've said.
	I mean, just watch the movie that they made just a few years ago about Krumpus.
	I mean, it is a disgusting, distorted, I don't even think St.
	Nicholas has anything to do with Old St.
	St. Nick and St. Nicholas himself.
	I don't even think St. Nicholas has anything to do with old St. Nick.
	I think that's been hijacked as well.
	Yeah, because they took that and, of course, they added stuff later on.
	Like Krumpus is a German folklore thing.
	Yeah, but the actual Nick there, he was a good person.
	He did a lot of stuff, made toys for kids in orphanages and all that stuff.
	So I don't know too much about him, but I know, of course, over the time, it gets polluted and condoluted with other kinds of stuff and everything else.
	Yeah, which is disgusting because they always have to make some sort of negative story out of absolute nothing.
	St.
	Nicholas, we do know, we have evidence that he was a real person again.
	He originates in what is now Turkey, and he was a saint for children, sailors, and all these kind of Hard-working people and innocent people.
	The story, the legend is that he was also not liked by the higher authority for going out and delivering gifts for these people of lower financial statuses, specifically poor people and everything, and he didn't want anything in return.
	That's the whole legend.
	Did he actually do it?
	There's no scripture of it because, one, there was really no journals about him like there is from other figures, but he himself was real and was not evil.
	It has nothing to do with that evil, dramatic, satanic crap.
	His birthday and his death, ironically, in March, born in March, and then died in what we know In December.
	December, I think it said 6th.
	It was the first week of December.
	I mean, if anything, we should celebrate a life like that.
	Anybody who is charitable in that way, you know, almost like a Saint Teresa or something, you know, somebody who is, you know, goes above and beyond and asks nothing back.
	I think we all should, you know, take great, great kindness to that.
	But as far as the story, how that's intertwined with Christmas, that's up in the air.
	How St.
	Nicholas is intertwined with Christmas.
	Christmas wasn't so much banned nationally here in the colonies.
	Massachusetts is where it was actually banned up until, I believe, the mid to late 1600s.
	It was Puritans.
	We're really pushing the ban of Christmas here.
	We all came to this new land for religious freedoms.
	As a matter of fact, a lot of us left the Massachusetts Bay Colony because of the Puritans, who were very, very, very radical in many ways.
	As a matter of fact, when they set the ban and they punished people who Even had just dinners, not so much celebrated with trees or whatnot, just had dinners and giving gifts to people.
	They were literally public flood and they were punished, beating, tortures and all that.
	I think that's pretty radical.
	I don't think anybody should be beating others for such beliefs.
	Puritans are what drove a lot of people to, for example, Connecticut, Rhode Island, and Western Massachusetts.
	They wanted to leave the Massachusetts Bay Colony.
	But at some point, when England kind of adopted more lesser punishments, that kind of made it over to the colonies.
	And that's when the Puritans, even though they frowned upon Christmas, they did Reduce the punishments, as far as legal punishments.
	Yeah, Christmas was not a widely celebrated, like Christmas today as we know it, was not a Christmas you would see celebrated in the 1700s.
	If you go back to Washington's writings about it, a lot of his writings and whatnot, Our talk about the dinners and whatnot, it was a religious holiday to give back to your servants, your kids, and anybody who worked with you, around you, or in the family.
	But you're right, they didn't necessarily celebrate the birth of Jesus, because that's not what happened, but it was just a time when winter was kind of a vacant time in people's lives, right?
	It was a very quiet time of year because, you know, in the winter you didn't really go out and do much.
	You really had to stay in and get warm.
	So as far as like festivities and whatnot, it was for hunting, gathering, celebrating with family, and giving back.
	So that Christmas was celebrated and you did it in your own private home.
	There was no such thing as you see in the movies like Going out on the town and buying gifts for, you know, hundreds of people and this and that.
	Like, no, that's not how it was celebrated.
	We have very, I mean, commercialized is an understatement, we have blown this holiday up.
	However, if people want to celebrate it the way they want to celebrate it, it's their choice, right?
	We have religious freedom in this country.
	I will say the symbol of a tree, let alone just a I wouldn't say all of it is paganism.
	We use a tree to signify liberty and peace, especially within our becomings of a colony of freedom and liberty, and then as far as America goes, we've used the tree in a lot of our symbols.
	So it's not all paganism.
	The tree was used in many of our founders' ideas and everything because it was a symbol that pointed to the heavens.
	It was almost like the same idea as the olive branch.
	It was a symbol of peace and liberty.
	So I wouldn't say the tree is paganism and evil necessarily.
	Not at all of it.
	Oh, no, of course.
	I mean, like, we know that.
	It's just, like, the way people do it.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, the Christmas style.
	It's like, you know, like, putting the home in decorated silver gold.
	It comes from pagan traditions.
	But, yeah, having a pine tree, it's like, you know, in your yard or whatever.
	Or, you know, whatever.
	It's, like, not evil.
	No, no, I know, like, not obviously in the yard, I mean.
	I mean, we all have these friggin' pine trees everywhere, and I don't think the land is evil.
	But what I'm saying is that the pine tree, the tree itself, is, you know, is a symbol of pointing to the heavens, of peace, and of liberty.
	We have used that.
	It is on a Christian flag.
	It's been flown.
	We've had many flags throughout our young nation's history, both Southern soldiers have used it in their flags.
	We used it in Christian flags.
	We used it in our Revolutionary War flags.
	So, I mean, the tree itself, is it pagan?
	I guess it depends on who you're asking.
	You know, I don't think anybody who celebrates Christmas, as we see in the movies today, I don't think they're evil.
	Do they have to repent?
	I think there's a lot more worse sins in life than a person can commit than celebrating a day like December 25th, whether they know what they're celebrating or not.
	But they have to face God for that.
	But I don't think all of us from the 1700s up to today, I don't think we're all evil for celebrating a day that I guess it's worth celebrating at any time of the year, really.
	You're supposed to spend time with family.
	You're supposed to give back to family and people.
	You're supposed to have family time and festivities like that.
	I think it's obviously, we can all agree that it's been blown out of proportion.
	All these companies that give deals and tax breaks and all that and, you know, save money on your gifts and this and that.
	You can shove it up your ass, but that's not what the time is for, right?
	To celebrate Jesus's birth, I guess you could celebrate that any time of year, right?
	I think to give thanks, you know, to the Lord that we're here and thank you for, you know, coming back and, you know, saving us from our sins.
	But like, I don't know, I think people who celebrate on the 25th, I don't think they're evil.
	I also don't think a lot of them are I'm following, especially knowing that they're following a paganism that we adopted almost a thousand years ago.
	I think people will be forgiven, you know, when they ask for forgiveness.
	When they know that, oh crap, you know, this is a little, you know, dumb and we shouldn't celebrate it like this.
	I think if we all get back to what we're supposed to do Especially as men who care for our families and our lives and everything.
	We're supposed to give back.
	That's what we're supposed to do.
	Women are supposed to provide and we're supposed to teach our kids.
	As long as we keep that, well, I think we're golden.
	Yeah, that's why we tell people like, um, you know, if they, you know, we, we have our view, but if somebody does that, that's on them and God, you know what I mean?
	That's the deal with God.
	Like John Pounder said the same thing, we're not going to judge anybody.
	And it's not our job to judge anyway.
	So people have different walks as well.
	You know what I mean?
	So it's just like people, when they come into the faith, there's still steps to go after that.
	So people like baby steps, so to speak, and all that.
	And yeah, you mentioned too early history here.
	Charles Dickens, the author of The Christmas Carol, the Catholic Church had him do seminars, not seminars, what they would have back then, come over here in America and promote his book.
	And it got people more interested in the idea of Christmas.
	And that's when it really, with The Christmas Carol book, it really spread Christmas into the next level.
	And now today, regardless if it's, if it was, which we know it's not innocent or nothing like that, but I mean whatever the case, but today is completely commercialized, even more than ever, and you know it's like right after Thanksgiving, like not even Thanksgiving, Halloween comes right?
	I think, well, it's supposed to be, again, for families.
	They completely skipped over Thanksgiving now.
	You know, no more Thanksgiving.
	It's just like...
	And even on Thanksgiving, with people, what do they do?
	They don't celebrate with their families no more.
	They're out at the stores waiting in line for Black Friday.
	So it's like, you know, it's just been all convoluted.
	You know, it's craziness, man.
	I think, well, it's supposed to be, again, of her families.
	Yeah.
	They know.
	When I mean they, I mean the people who really run the shit.
	They know that families today, especially in our society, are more than likely broken up.
	So they're going to do anything to push all these, all this material crap onto you.
	It's not about that.
	I mean, to celebrate the Christmas spirit, I mean, to celebrate on the 25th is not wrong.
	You could celebrate that June 1st.
	You could celebrate that February for it.
	You can you know what I mean?
	Like you could celebrate the christmas.
	I don't know the way we Like we the reason why we don't celebrate it for because like um, he was he was born in the flesh Yeah, but he was already in existence.
	So basically he was in the spirit realm and he um came inseminated with the holy spirit into mary to be manifested in the flesh then returned to the spirit again and
	So that's why like they um you'll never see anything in the scriptures about or even uh the the early people there celebrating Jesus birthday because back then like nobody celebrated their birthdays like that because especially with Jesus because uh Jesus uh he didn't come into existence through Mary he was there even before creation you know so that's why uh Christmas was but today like they always added um all kinds of things to it and everything else and
	And again, what they did is, Rome was the big responsibility for this.
	Rome pulled the paganism in, even though after they so-called converted to Catholicism, whatever, it's still pagan.
	So they pulled all the pagan traditions and what they did, everything like the same.
	Like if you go back in time, the holidays are all still there.
	Now what they did is like when they slapped it over they do like basically um camouflage It's camouflage Plain and simple they took paganism and camouflage as Christianity that's what Rome did and uh, you know with their false version of christianity That's why everything's all messed up because of the catholic church and dispensationalism.
	Now, that's why everybody in the churches today have no clue Uh what's left or right?
	Yeah, well, I mean, we should always take a grain of salt for what film has taught us.
	I mean, there was always good things and bad things to take from any civilization.
	But, I mean, Rome kind of decimated a lot of people's lives and everything just to push their way of life.
	They killed untold amounts of Christians, Protestants, Jews during the Inquisition and it's crazy.
	They're the ones who created Islam.
	Actually we're doing a show on that guys.
	Probably next month.
	The creation of Islam is actually the Catholic Church.
	We're going to get through all that and how they all conspired together to overthrow the Holy Land.
	That was the whole thing about it.
	But yeah, we've got a couple of calls coming in, man, and I'm getting a little tired.
	I hear you.
	Yeah, no worries.
	Yeah, thank you, though.
	I know.
	My voice has an effect on people.
	No, it's alright.
	Good call, man.
	Thank you.
	I really appreciate it.
	I really called because of this whole St.
	Nicholas thing.
	A lot of people get, you know, distorted with the St.
	Nicholas was, you know, the crumpet.
	That's not the case.
	If you want to celebrate St.
	Nicholas, I think that's what I think.
	The Dutch name came from, Santa Claus came from the Dutch name.
	Most Dutch is more aligned with, I guess, the Germanic, but St. Nicholas was not evil himself. - Yeah. - But anyway, I just wanted to put that in.
	All right, Dan, hey, I don't know what else to say.
	Merry Christmas, I guess.
	Take it or leave it.
	But hey, you and the family, I hope you guys have a great weekend.
	I wish you all well.
	If I don't hear from you, Happy New Year.
	You too, brother.
	Stay safe on the road, man.
	You be blessed.
	I do my best.
	It was no picnic, right?
	I do my best.
	Alright, take care, brother.
	I'll talk to you again.
	Alright, you too, man.
	Bye.
	Dan, you want to take one more call, Dan?
	Yeah, one last call.
	Let's take one more call, Dan.
	It's been a long day.
	I want to mention Sister Donna.
	She put in the chat room.
	Krampus is a horned, anthropo- I can't even say that.
	Anthroponotic figure described as a half-goat, half-demon who during the Christmas season punishes children for having misbehaved in contrast with St.
	Nicholas.
	In contrast with St.
	Nicholas who rewarded well-behaved with gifts.
	Krampus is one of the companions of St. Nicholas in several regions, including Austria and Bavaria.
	And Croatia, Czech Republic, Hungary and Northern Italy, including South Tyrol, Slovakia, Slovenia.
	And the origin of the figure is unclear, some folklorist.
	And she says, and anthropologists have postulated it has, having pre-Christian origins.
	So, yeah, that's, let's talk about Krampus there.
	So, yeah, you know, it's always a goat, a goat or horn type figure, even all through history.
	You know, it's always associated with a goat or horn figure or a serpent, whatever the case, as we talked about last week with the seven sages of Atlantis.
	But yeah, it's always the same stuff.
	It's just rebranded.
	Every generation or so, they rebrand something.
	You know, the same deities, whatever.
	But yeah, I'm burnt out.
	It's been a long day for me.
	I didn't even get much sleep today.
	I worked last night.
	It's our brother Bill, so let's give him a call and we'll wrap it up for tonight.
	Shalom, brother Bill.
	Shalom, brother Dan, brother Brian, brother David.
	How you doing, man?
	Hey, Bill.
	Okay, period, close.
	Give me one second.
	Sure.
	Bill's calling from the gas station in Boston, Massachusetts.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Brian's got to go deliver some milk over there.
	Okay.
	No, there's going to be no delivering up in there.
	Can't deliver it down here.
	It's going to be less than five minutes after it closes at midnight to make the last drop before it signs off to take reports automatically.
	I gotta, uh... I was like, he's gonna end up calling the second I start to break shift, I bet.
	Lo and behold!
	I could take a second now.
	Let me throw... This can sit here for a second.
	So...
	Yeah.
	Yeah, we're about ready to wrap up anyway, too.
	We're breaking shift, too, so... I don't know, shift change, you know?
	It's the end of the day.
	But, uh, I'll tell you one thing.
	I wouldn't go to Mark Zuckerberg's Doomsday Bunker to watch the TV show Friends, if you ask.
	Yeah, no joke.
	That was an ending from that Left Behind movie, or...
	Whatever that new Apocalypse movie was.
	Yeah.
	The Netflix one the Obama's made.
	And Mark Zuckerberg, he just got a brand new $100 million bunker in Lahaina, Hawaii or something.
	Yeah, it's strange.
	Probably some little cheaper property down there after the Burned a whole bunch of the areas out there, you know?
	Yeah.
	Good old, uh, good old Ronald Reagan, uh, strategic defense initiative there, you know?
	Star Wars, nothing but Star Wars!
	Yeah.
	You know what I was thinking?
	When Father David was talking earlier, I was thinking about that Zachariah, 1117, Woe to the idle shepherd that leaveth the flock!
	The sword shall be upon his arm, and upon his right eye.
	His arm shall be cleaned, dried up, and his right eye shall be utterly darkened.
	That's intense.
	Yeah, I was thinking about that thing about Revelation 13 where they start Wondering after the beast, wondering if that AI, because it's like, man, Revelation 13, 4, where they talk about, and they worship the dragon which gave power unto the beast, and they worship the beast saying, who is like unto the beast?
	Who is able to make war with him?
	Then it gets into where they bring the mark of the beast in.
	I'm like, everybody's wondering after artificial intelligence right now.
	I mean, You guys got to do a part two of that, uh, one that brother Brian did with that, uh, the Terminator song.
	And the, uh, it was like a Fantasia on the Terminator soundtrack or something, the music to it.
	I forgot what it was called.
	That was a great one, like a year ago.
	Um, I do remember that one, um, with the Terminator.
	Um, Oh man.
	Um, it was, it was something I put on Facebook.
	It was uh... I think it was a spinoff of uh... wasn't it Smashing Pumpkins?
	Despite all my rage, I'm still just riding a cage.
	Brother Bill, I think that's something that was the music I played on that.
	It was just a different variation.
	Oh man.
	Yeah.
	Oh, man.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Last thing I heard you sing was the digging up Nephilim bones with that other dude there, the Nephilim hunter guy, Otto, whatever.
	That was a good one you guys did there a month or two ago, I think.
	Well, before I close up, well, Oh yeah, thanks for the call, brother, and have a great Shabbat, and be safe driving home, man.
	Yeah, be blessed, Bill.
	Oh yeah.
	God bless the ministries circling the Puritan barn like an old-time wagon train in the Wild West.
	Lord watch over you.
	Yeah.
	Feed for them.
	Well, the wicked, one-eyed creatures running around.
	All right, awesome.
	Thank you, man.
	Yeah, brother Brian.
	Have a good night, guys.
	You too.
	Shalom, brother.
	Yeah, be blessed.
	Shalom.
	Good night.
	Good night.
	All right, guys.
	Before we go, I'm going to pray out and also we're doing a little book giveaway here.
	So, yeah, I'm all over the place, man.
	I'm just like seeing double.
	I'm saying triple the whole broadcast, bro.
	So, uh, this book, where is it?
	Yeah.
	The Stolen Seed Evil Harvest.
	Uh, we had Karen Wilkinson on last month.
	Uh, she was an abductee from bees Nephilim, whatever the case.
	And, uh, so, uh, we're going to be giving her book away.
	So how to get this book guys is, uh, you go to, uh, email me, I'm sorry.
	Email me and put book in the title there.
	Yeah, if you may let me take a screenshot of that.
	Truthradioshowatoutlook.com and just email, book, and if we pick your name we'll email you back and obviously get your address and send the book to you there.
	So it's truthradioshowatoutlook.com and we're giving away this book here, Stone Seed Evil Harvest by Karen Wilkinson.
	And if you want to watch the interview, guys, it's on our channel.
	And I think it's three or four shows ago or something like that.
	But you'll find it.
	It's on the live shows here.
	Stolen Seed, Evil Harvest.
	And the show is actually called Stolen Seed.
	So, yeah, email truthradioshowatlock.com.
	Also, send prayer requests there, too.
	So, read them next week, your prayer requests.
	So, if you want a prayer request, put prayer requests in the title.
	Or if you want the book, just put book in.
	And if you win the book, we'll send you an email.
	And we'll get your address after that.
	So, truthradioshowatlock.com.
	If you've got news tips or anything like that you want to send us, our prayer requests.
	Or if you want to get this book.
	And we're going to be doing this a lot now.
	So, giving things away and all that stuff.
	So, reaching back to you guys out there and all that good stuff.
	And uh, thank you out there for the donations and everything.
	I appreciate it.
	And um, I hate talking about that because I wish I'd I wish I was rich.
	I wouldn't have to do that But thank you guys because without you guys and the lord, especially this show this operation this ministry would not be possible at all So and if you're interested in donating, um, we got a paypal Cash app venmo and which we barely ever use those in the ko-fi site, but um because of youtube I don't know if you could click on the thing.
	Uh, brian pinned it in the chat here I don't know if you can click on that.
	If you can't, go to truthradioshow.com, my website.
	Right at the top is the donation pages, because YouTube's messing with us lately.
	So, yeah.
	You want to close out with a prayer, brother?
	Sure thing, Dan.
	I sure will.
	Dear Father in Heaven, thank you for this opportunity to be on here with Brother Dan.
	Thank you for this platform, Lord.
	I pray, Lord, that it will be, uh, come back to completion, that it will actually, uh, all of our features and everything will actually, that these restraints that has been done to Brother Dan here on this program, this platform, that it will be The restrictions and everything will just be lifted and all will be well for the future and coming up in 2024.
	And please be with Brother Dan and his health.
	Be with my health.
	Be with our families, Lord.
	Be with Brother David and Miss Donna.
	And be with Brother John Pounders.
	All of our ministry.
	Just bless us, Lord.
	Guide us and direct us.
	Thank you for this opportunity to be on here, Lord.
	Bless our weekend.
	I pray we have a blessed, blessed Sabbath and just a good weekend and a good week coming up.
	And I ask all these things in Jesus' name.
	Amen.
	Amen.
	Big amen.
	So everybody enjoy your Shabbat.
	Saturday, the 7th day here coming up.
	And don't forget tonight, Saturday night, 11pm Eastern is the Midnight Ride.
	And the links are in the description for that.
	So yeah, NICTV, Midnight Ride, David Carrico and Jon Pounders.
	I guess Jon fell asleep, he was supposed to join us.
	The guy is like he's a he's a beast man.
	He's like all over the place there is You know doing all the stuff and everything with the family and everything.
	So god bless him, you know So don't worry about it.
	John.
	I will get you on some other time.
	So, yeah.
	So, yeah, guys, once again, check out estajadesltd at gmail.com.
	Email her if you want to try those products out.
	And she's got that new stuff, man.
	The pain buster cream and the stuff for the cold and flu season.
	We'll have commercials.
	We'll try to make them soon.
	But, yeah, good stuff.
	Real cheap, too.
	And, you know, price and everything else.
	The stuff works amazing.
	So, that being said, thank you, Brian, so much.
	And thank you, David.
	Thank you, Sister Donna.
	Sister Donna is the backbone of the operation.
	Because, yeah, Sister Donna does a lot of the research, too, and everything else.
	So she's amazing So god bless you guys and thank you so much for doing that And uh, thank you Jason and all that and thank you everybody out there and thank you lord mostly so And that that being said guys, we'll see you soon.

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