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Former Luciferian Witch, From The Craft To Christ - Spiritual Warfare Friday LIVE 9pm et

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	When we start with Paris, oficial says, And welcome everybody to Spiritual Warfare Friday.
	I'm your host Dan Bodondi.
	Brian Reese can't join us today guys.
	He had some personal business to take care of.
	But we got an awesome show for you tonight and our special guest, former witch.
	She was into Luciferianism, all forms of the occult.
	So we just narrowed it down, former Luciferian witch.
	Mrs. Carrie Christian who's now come from, you know, the craft into the cross.
	So that's great and welcome to the show, Carrie.
	Thank you.
	I'm excited to be here.
	And sorry to cut you off when we were talking, uh, you know, like when the intro came out.
	So it's going to be pretty cool.
	So we got a lot to talk about tonight guys.
	And before we get going, I want to thank ShakenWakeRadio.com for carrying this show and that awesome, amazing audio network.
	And also thank you, BeforeItSnooze.com.
	They carry my show and I'm also a contributor for them as well.
	And uh, special prayers for Tom Horne, Dr. Tom Horne.
	He's been on the show years ago.
	Uh, he passed away, I think it was today.
	Uh, today or yesterday, Mr. Horne passed away.
	So, uh, rest in peace brother and we'll see you soon in the kingdom.
	And uh, so hearts and prayers go to the family guys.
	And guys, don't mourn.
	I hate when people mourn.
	Yeah, it's like...
	You should be happy for these people.
	This guy served Jesus for decades.
	Decades.
	And his reward is going home to the Father.
	So, God bless him.
	It was funny because my father, my real father, when he passed away, he had a good relationship with Jesus Christ.
	So, when he passed away, I was the only one there not crying.
	People were like, why are you crying?
	I said, well, if you knew where he was going, you'd be happy for the man, you know?
	So, uh, that's my perspective on it.
	And I know people take these things differently.
	I understand that.
	I lost my mother and my father and, you know, I knew where they were going and whatever the case.
	So, it's a comfort for me, you know, and they were moving on from this world and everything else.
	So, I know and understand people take it differently.
	But anyway, next week we got David Carrico coming on.
	Halloween show, The Trick or Treat, The Culture of Fear, Special Warfare Friday with David Carrico from FOJC Radio.
	He's going to be joining me and Brian.
	We're going to break down, once again, the satanic holiday, literally, of Halloween, Samhain, the Samhain Festival, Samhain, whatever you want to call it.
	So we're going to be breaking that down, guys, and we've got lots to talk about.
	And now, from the craft to Christ, it's Kerry Christian.
	24, 20 years she blended Celtic witchcraft, Luciferianism, Satanism, voodoo into her form of witchcraft until the simple words paved the way to break the bondage that held her and read God's word of Carrie's deliverance from the craft to Christ available and it's the book was available last month and if you want to get I'll put the links in the chat room.
	The Craft from Christ by S.A.
	Tower.
	So I'm done blabbing now.
	So how you doing Carrie?
	I'm good.
	Yeah, I got a motor mouth sometime and I'm like, you're okay.
	All right.
	So, um, big question here is what, what drew you?
	I mean, how old were you and what drew you into dabbling to the occult, into witchcraft and what were the progression steps you went to get further into Luciferianism, Satanism and all that stuff?
	Well, it started when I was seven years old.
	My grandfather, who I was very close to as a child, he had passed away.
	And my mom and dad, before we were so little, me and my younger sister, we didn't go to the funeral.
	They just, it was something that they didn't think that we needed to see and participate in.
	So the night of his funeral, I stayed at my grandmother's house and when I was getting ready for bed and I had my back turned towards the hallway, And I heard, you know, walking coming out of the dining room down towards the hallway.
	And I hollered and I told my grandma, I said, you know, Granny, I'm getting ready to go to bed.
	She never replied, never said nothing to me.
	And so I walked towards the doorway and I said, Granny, I'm getting ready to go to bed, you know, and tell her I love her and everything.
	When I looked down the hallway towards the dining room where I heard the walking, I seen my grandfather, who just passed away, who they just buried that day, walking out of the dining room, down the hallway, right past me, and he went into the bathroom, which was diagonal from the bedroom I was staying in, and he had a coffee cup, his favorite coffee cup he always drunk out of, and he set it down on the sink, he put both hands on the sink,
	And he looked right into the mirror and was smiling.
	Well, being seven years old, you know, that freaks you out.
	So I turned around real quick.
	I think being 70 years old, that freaks somebody out too.
	Exactly.
	So I, you know, I, I knew he was gone.
	Like I understood that part, but so I turned around, you know, real slow and looked behind me and he's gone.
	So I go in there, you know, kind of peeking around the bathroom, back behind the door where the shower was and everything, and he's nowhere.
	He's gone.
	But sitting on that sink was that coffee cup with a hot cup of coffee in it.
	I mean, steam rolling out of it.
	I woke my grandmother up.
	I was screaming and crying.
	I made her call my parents, made them come and get me.
	So I was out of there.
	So out, you know, Kids, you know, you kind of forget things, and kids are kind of resilient.
	So it didn't bother me.
	I didn't think about it.
	I wouldn't go back over to my grandma's house and stay after that, though.
	But when I got... I went to church.
	I grew up in church my whole life.
	We were there every time the door was open.
	Went to vacation Bible schools, revivals, singings, anything that was going on, we were there.
	Mom took us.
	Um, when I was about 11 years old, 11, 12 years old, that I started like questioning why I seen him.
	Like it all of a sudden came back to me and I started remembering all of it and what had happened.
	And, You know, I was like, why, why did he, why was I the only person that's seen him?
	You know, why, why did he let me see him?
	Why did, why did he come there at that time?
	You know, and I of course took it to my Sunday school teacher and I asked her, you know, I told her what happened and I said, you know, I want to know why, you know, was he, did he need to tell me something?
	Was there some kind of message he was trying to give me?
	And her answer, although she was right in what she said, it was her delivery of it.
	But she looked at me and she told me, she said, that wasn't your grandfather.
	That was a demon.
	Leave it alone.
	Don't ask questions.
	You know, just that's it.
	Instead of explaining to me why, you know, I was, I was 11 years old.
	I would have been able to understand that, you know, but she just kind of left it at that.
	And for me, being 11, 12 years old, that was hard for me to understand, just being bluntly left like that, because when I seen him, he wasn't scary.
	You know, and of course, that's how the devil works.
	He's not going to show you something scary when he's trying to get you.
	So, you know, he wasn't scary looking.
	He looked healthy because he had been really, really ill.
	He, you know, he had turned gray and had lost a lot of weight and stuff, but he looked perfectly healthy.
	He was walking upright.
	He looked strong.
	He had his coffee, you know, had his favorite outfit on.
	You know, he always wore flannel shirts and jeans.
	He had on, you know, what he always liked to wear.
	And so it didn't make sense to me.
	Um, seeing him like that, I was like, you know, I wasn't scared of him.
	He, he didn't scare me.
	He wasn't trying to get me, you know, so that I had a hard time accepting that answer.
	Like I was telling you before the video came on tonight was God puts people in your life.
	I never think that the enemy doesn't put people in your life too.
	So right at that time while I was questioning all of this and didn't get more explanation from the church and um that's the problem right there uh because um you know we had the 10 commands don't do this don't do that so people think god sounds like a controlling jerk i did a whole video on that but to explain why uh when you understand why you're like oh wow all right so if that woman would have told you hey it could have changed the course of your life that woman would say hey listen this is why
	because uh they're they're called unclean familiar spirits like uh with samuel remember samuel and all that and um saul king saul and all that and i was trying to seek samuel he's He went to the witch of Endor and all that, but it was a familiar spirit, which is, it's a demon masquerading as somebody you know.
	It could tell you stuff that only you two know, all that stuff, because these demons have been around for thousands of years.
	They go back to ancient days, so they know, because they curse the earth until Judgment Day, so they know everything about your greatest grandfather and more, you know, so they can come masquerade And look like and sound like and everything else of your grandfather, whatever the case is.
	Now, if they would explain that to you, that could have very well changed the course of your life.
	Because this is a problem with the mainstream churches.
	Absolutely.
	First of all, most of them don't even know this stuff.
	And when they do, they know a little bit.
	And they're like, here's the, this is why.
	And I said, don't question it.
	When you are supposed to question it, and get the right answers.
	So, sorry to cut you off.
	I just wanted to add that.
	No, no, you're correct.
	Because it's like when, Satan comes at you.
	What people need to understand is he's not going to come at you in his, in his, with, you know, to show you change.
	He's not going to come at you and show you all this darkness and evil and bad stuff.
	He's going to come as an angel of light and he's going to parade himself as something that's, you know, innocent and familiar.
	You know, that's why a lot of people, you know, they'll, they'll see past loved ones.
	And, you know, I understand now looking back, Why that happened and why he chose him because I was close to him.
	My heart was broke.
	You know, he chose that image for a reason because he knew that would snare me.
	He knew that would question.
	Now, if I would have seen some demon crawling down the hallway, that would have been a totally different story.
	You know, I would have went the total opposite direction that I went in.
	But you know, that's how Satan works, is he portrays himself as something that is going to be acceptable to you, or familiar to you, or okay with you.
	You know, he's not going to show you what he really is.
	But had that been explained, you know, a little bit more to me, I wouldn't have, honestly, I do not believe I would have chosen the methods, you know, or accepted the methods that were presented to me.
	But like I was saying, Satan puts people in your life too.
	It's like he'll cross your paths with other people, just as God will.
	And at that time I was questioning all of this.
	And of course all them questions come from the enemy.
	I didn't realize it, but they did.
	One of my friends that I had at school, I was telling him about it, and my question I had, and he had informed me that he was into Satanism and all of the witchcraft and the magic, and he said, I can show you a way to ask him and to find the answer.
	I can show you how you can talk to him.
	And which had intrigued me and I was like, okay, you know, I'll get my answer that I'm looking for.
	Cause you know, that answer that I was given to me was just unacceptable.
	So, you know, here come the enemy with his, here you go, you know, here's your answer.
	So he reckoned, he was like, we, you know, we can use a Ouija board.
	And I told him, I said, you know, I knew what a Ouija board was.
	I'd heard it talked about in church.
	And I was like, my mom and dad is not going to let me have a Ouija board in my house.
	And you know, he told me, he was like, no, we don't have, you don't have to get one.
	You don't have to have, you know, we can make one out of a piece of paper.
	And so we literally set out on my porch and took a piece of paper and he drew a Ouija board on it.
	And I mean, that, that's what I started with was a piece of paper.
	Like that's all it took was it was taking that second look for the enemy to whisper in my ear and me to take that second look and a piece of paper.
	Yeah, and I tell people all the time, regardless if it's a piece of paper, or a board game, or an actual board, or even a piece of glass, you're creating a conduit that's gonna give dominion to these spirits that come into your life and everything else.
	Absolutely.
	And, you know, people have asked me, well, did it work?
	Yeah, it worked.
	And, of course, you know, that stuff's gonna work, because how else would the enemy get you if it didn't work?
	Like, if he didn't have something to To kind of smoke a mirrors for you, then you wouldn't go any further into his kingdom.
	You wouldn't even give him a second look.
	So, you know, I was, I started out playing with that.
	I mean, I would keep it folded up and down in my closet and I'd pull it out and sit in the floor and I'd light a candle and, you know, sit down there in the dark and play my little Ouija board that we had made.
	Um, so I went from that as I got a little older, you know, and then he, he would just freely give me stuff.
	Like he was giving me books.
	He was like, Oh, here, you need to read this.
	And, um, I started reading about tarot cards and then I wanted some.
	I was saving up what little money I got from my allowances and stuff and going up to the mall and buying a pack of tarot cards and trying to learn how to do them.
	This is probably about this time I was 12 or 13 years old, teaching myself witchcraft.
	Then I got books on Wicca.
	I started out in Wicca.
	And because, you know, I was like, Wicca didn't seem that bad to me, which again is a whole trick of the enemy.
	You know, there are so many, especially today, there's so many that are deceived by that because it makes it seem so innocent.
	You know, that you're worshiping nature, you're one with nature, you're grounding yourself to nature, and it represents this deity, this goddess.
	You know, she's not represented as anything scary, and there's no mention of Satan's name in any of these Wiccan books, so it's like, okay, this ain't bad, this is nature, and you know, this is a goddess who represents herself as a mother and a, you know, as kindness and all this stuff.
	That's what me and my brother got told too, and my uncle.
	You know, we fight demons and all that stuff, and it's all nature's, you know, God's creation.
	That's how they sold us, you know, and it may sound so good.
	And the thing is, too, like, you know, when I did a show on Wicca with the Gerald Gardenian one and the Alexandrian Wiccan, and basically it's a system to draw good people, great, wonderful people into the occult, then they start enticing you to go darker, you know, from the then they start enticing you to go darker, you know, from the right hand to the left hand magic and And so that's where, you know, that's what made me dabble into it, because I always loved God and everything else, but I didn't know any better.
	And so it'll be pretty cool, because you see the stuff on TV.
	Let me get into the stuff, and all of a sudden, you know, you get deep into the stuff, and bad things happen spiritually.
	Absolutely.
	Because, you know, TV and movies, TV, entertainment, I mean, it glorifies it.
	And especially in movies and TV shows, you know, it doesn't show you the ugly side of everything, or it doesn't show you the truth of everything.
	And, you know, what that truth is, is that no matter how innocent it seems, even though that book doesn't mention Satan, I mean, Satan does not care what you call him.
	Yeah.
	It's a point I always try to get across.
	It's like Satan does not care what you call him.
	You can call him a goddess.
	You can go out here and worship this tree.
	You can go out here and try to find your peace in that stuff.
	But as long as you're not calling on the name of Jesus, as long as you're not surrendering to Jesus, Satan doesn't care.
	So if he has to represent himself as a goddess, then so be it.
	If you're out here praying to a tree, then so be it.
	You're not praying to Jesus.
	That stuff, you know, the Bible tells us we're not to worship the creation, we're to worship the Creator.
	So, that's, you know, making it look innocent, not, you know, no mention of His name and stuff is how it gets people, because they're like, there's no devil in the craft, there's no devil in Wicca.
	You know, in the books, in black and white, no there's not.
	But there is.
	And that's one point that I try to make when I tell people, because there's so many people who think that Wicca is not evil.
	And even though it's not, you know, in the Wiccan books that you're bowing down to Satan, and it's not saying that in black and white, I mean, you're bowing down and praying and serving a goddess.
	All that is is a representation of Satan, and it's a way to ensnare you and to get you bound and to get you getting further and further into darker magic.
	That's all it is.
	It's Satan portraying as an angel of light.
	That's what Wicca is.
	And people get really bent out of shape when I say that, but it is the truth.
	Oh it is, because a lot of people don't understand the history.
	I went over this a million times on my shows, whatever, but the history, because witchcraft was highly outlawed here in America.
	Remember the Salem Witch Trials and everything?
	And from the Puritans and all that, and also in England, very highly outlawed.
	So they needed to create, and I think this was like a rip-off literally from the Illuminati, but they needed to create a public perception, a false public perception, because when you heard the witch, it was like, wow, people, like they want to stone you right then and there.
	So they created um, you know, no, no, no, we're not like that no more.
	We don't kill kids stuff like that We're just innocent people who worship on nature and everything else.
	So I think what i'm Guarding general garner and alexander created this uh, the wicker there to learn good people in the cult and also at the same time masquerade The real inner circle of the witchcraft so basically they could continue to study the witchcraft to the public It's just good.
	It's white magic, but inside what they were doing behind it, you know Not even the members knew that they had that in the circle that they were doing dark black magic in those circles So nobody would ever bother because they think oh, it's a wicked church They're all in this and and at the same time you got these dark witches in there practicing high levels of the occult and nobody knows about like same thing was like masonry and When the Illuminati and all that, they all merged together, the Jacobins and all that, they merged under the wing of Freemasonry, they became an inner circle within it.
	So, the public would have no clue what was going on.
	Oh, it's just a lodge of men getting together.
	You know, they had no clue.
	They thought it was innocent.
	Same thing with the witchcraft.
	And that's, you know, why I grew up to studying the stuff, to understand how they did this to legalize witchcraft here in America.
	Absolutely.
	And I mean, all it is is like a gateway.
	Into darker, darker things.
	Like, when you get so dissatisfied, because, I mean, there is no satisfaction in any of that stuff.
	Like, you're not gonna stay just, okay, I'm gonna go out here and I'm gonna be in nature and I'm gonna have my little crystals and I'm gonna, you know, light my candles and this is all I'm gonna do.
	Even if you're in it now and you're listening to this and you're saying, well, I would never do anything darker.
	I would never go into anything more.
	You will.
	You will.
	You may not be doing it today, but you're going to.
	Because Satan cannot satisfy your hunger.
	That hunger that we try to fill with so many other false religions and false gods, that hunger that's in us, Satan can only be filled by the one true God in Jesus Christ.
	That's the only way we can fill that.
	So, I mean, Satan can never satisfy that emptiness that we have and that hunger that we have, you know, to be close.
	That is a hunger that was meant to be there for God Almighty.
	So, I mean, you're never going to be satisfied.
	Satan is never going to be able to alleviate that need.
	So when you're in Wicca and you know, like with me, I did it for years.
	I mean, I would say probably about 11, 12 years, 13 years I was in, did Wicca and it just, it got to where it was boring.
	I mean, to just be blunt, it just got boring to me.
	It's like, this is not doing anything.
	You know, I want to do more.
	That was that unsatisfaction.
	You know, that desire for something else, you know, that I was trying to fill through Satan's little fake facade of things he has to offer.
	So, you know, I was like, I want more power.
	I want to be able to do stronger spells.
	I want to be able to make more things happen.
	I want to experience more, you know, more supernatural things.
	So I started practicing Celtic Witchcraft, which is a darker, darker form of witchcraft.
	Not the darkest, but darker.
	Isn't that the origins of, like, basically Halloween?
	The ancient Celtics?
	Yes, and the more Druidic witchcraft.
	So, you know, it was a darker step.
	I did, you know, participated in that for years and studied that and then got dissatisfied with it.
	You know, as you can see the spiral from a piece of paper, from an unanswered question to a piece of paper, to this.
	You know, practicing Celtic witchcraft.
	And, you know, with witchcraft there's really no rules.
	Like, you can incorporate whatever you want into it.
	Like I said, Satan doesn't care what you're doing as long as you're not serving God.
	You can, you know, you can throw whatever you want to in there.
	And so...
	I started getting books and studying voodoo.
	I started studying Luciferism.
	I got me a statue of Lucifer.
	I set an altar up to him because in Lucifer... and still it's like it was still him portraying himself as an angel of light because even in like Luciferism it's... you're to them and when I was in it in the study of it you're not actually
	Serving Satan like the biblical Satan he's not in those in the studies and and the worship of Luciferism you're not he's not portrayed as the biblical Satan He's portrayed as Lucifer, which was you know and all his attributes is as Lucifer you know like the being an angel of light and music and you know just Pride and self-service and you know that that was how he was represented.
	So still you thought okay.
	It was so crazy, because even though I grew up in church and I knew who Lucifer was, I knew who Satan was, it was like you become so blinded and so deaf, it's almost like you get amnesia, that you can't remember these things.
	It's such a blockage.
	Because I was staring at this statue, buying this statue, setting this altar up in my house, bowing down and praying and worshipping this statue of Lucifer.
	And I was still, to myself, I wasn't doing anything bad because I was like, well, I'm not worshiping Satan.
	I'm worshiping Lucifer and the good side of him, like he has one, you know?
	But like, I literally was convinced that that's what I was doing.
	And, you know, I was, I was involved in a coven.
	I became the high priestess of that coven.
	I did that for 13 years.
	It would have been 14 years if I hadn't got saved.
	I was almost at that peak.
	But, you know, in witchcraft, like, witches and satanists really don't kind of co-mingle.
	At least they never did around here.
	Like, they didn't have nothing to do with each other.
	Because, like, the witches wanted to keep themselves separate from that.
	Like, it's like, no, you know, they're the bad ones, we're not.
	You know, that's how they kind of made it seem.
	And how we always try to portray ourselves.
	It's like in school, you got the emos and the golf kids.
	They're similar, but they're the same thing.
	Yeah, we're serving the same God, but you're bad people, you know, you stay over there, you know, so you really wasn't like, you weren't allowed to have intermingled with them.
	That's the best way I can put it.
	So my path did cross with
	And some people who were practicing satanism, and I remember, you know, my friend from back as a preteen who showed me all this stuff, and he had his satanic books and everything, and I, you know, I read several of them, and I just, at that time, I was like, okay, this ain't, you know, it ain't too bad, like, it ain't... So I was, like, doing my rituals and my sabbats and meeting with my coven that I was in
	With witchcraft, I was practicing Luciferism and incorporating voodoo in it on my own time.
	And then I was going to these rituals and stuff with these Satanists over here.
	It was like that hunger and it got so bad that like the darker it was the more I wanted it.
	It causes that in you.
	It's like, the more dark it is, the more evil it is, the more you hunger for it.
	And you get this hunger for this power and this pride, and it's like, you know, you would do whatever it took to get it.
	I mean, that's the spiral that this stuff takes you down into.
	You know, before I knew it, you know, before I got saved, I was, you know, cutting myself for rituals.
	You know, buying satanic robes.
	And I mean, I had satanic books in my house.
	You know, I was studying them and participating in the rituals and stuff with this satanic coven.
	It was like whatever it took to try to suppress that hunger that I had in me.
	And of course, like I said, it never satisfied.
	Yeah, it's just like a drug, like a spiritual drug, if you will.
	You want more and more of it, you know?
	It is.
	You know, even like with drug abuse, I mean, that's a satanic thing, too.
	That's a tool of the enemy.
	He wants to destroy you.
	So, you know, he knows what will play your fiddle.
	He knows how to try to wiggle his way in.
	So, you know, for some people, they would see Satanism or witchcraft and be like, oh, no, no, no.
	You know, but then they may get hooked on drugs.
	They may try something, you know, little.
	And before they know it, they're over here.
	Being Narcan because they've had meth or heroin or something in their system.
	You know, they never thought when they took that little thing that it was going to spiral them down into that situation.
	It's the same thing with witchcraft.
	Anything that has to do with Satan.
	I mean, he'll give you that little bit.
	He'll make it feel good for a while.
	But at the end of it, the end result of anything that has to do with him is death.
	It's spiritual death.
	Emotional death, it's mental death, and if he can, it'll be physical death.
	You know, any way that he can separate you from God, and that's his ultimate goal, is your destruction.
	He's not going to do anything for you.
	He's not out for any of your good.
	It's like, he may make this stuff work for a while, like those drugs may feel good for a while, that alcohol may feel good for a while.
	That witchcraft may feel good and be fun for a while.
	Whatever it is that he's dangling in front of you, he's going to make it feel good for a while.
	It's going to be fun for a while.
	But there will be a price to pay.
	And I mean, his end result is death and separating you forever from God.
	Good question.
	So when you were in the cult, did they encourage psychotropics or hallucinogenic drugs when you were doing it?
	And you know, they, they did, but it was like, it wasn't something that was forced.
	Now, I ain't saying there's, there's covens out there that don't, you know, force it, but it, you know, it was offered.
	It would be encouraged, like, okay, if you do this, it's going to take you to an alternate mind state and you'll be able to experience more.
	Like it was almost made like it would be a, a spiritual thing.
	Like a spiritual realm, you would go somewhere else where your mind would be more open.
	Oh yeah, like in the new age they tell you to unlock the penile gland, the third eye, to channel these cosmic spirits and all that.
	Yeah, so drugs, especially in the darker parts, it's like it's encouraged because it kind of, you no longer have any type of control over your mind.
	So your mind supposedly is more open.
	You know, two things.
	So you would experience more.
	So basically it'll be an open the floodgates to demons.
	Yes.
	Cause you, you have no, you have no resistance at that point.
	How are you going to resist anything?
	True.
	You know, again, again, a brilliant scheme of the enemy, a brilliant scheme.
	I mean, that, that's, that would be something so perfect for him is to get you to where you have no control, where you can't block anything that he's trying to do to you.
	Yeah, that makes sense.
	And yeah, it's this way, like basically just robs you of your, no more innocence, or robs you of your personality, of who you are, just change you to something totally different than what you are.
	Absolutely.
	So yeah, so when you're in Luciferianism, so what kind of ritual, I mean, I don't know if you want to recall, whatever, what kind of rituals did you guys do?
	Anything like sacrifices or anything like that?
	Well, in the Luciferism, I practiced that mainly solitary by myself.
	The coven that I was in was mainly Wicca and, you know, so a little bit, but a little bit of darker stuff.
	We had, we threw some, some Celtic in there, but like the voodoo practices and the Luciferism practices, I did solitary by myself.
	And then I was also, you know, participating in these rituals and studies with the satanic coven.
	So, but in the Luciferism, I mean, it, It requires a lot of prayers.
	It requires rituals, depending on how deep you want to go into it.
	None of the ones that I participated in ever required any type of sacrifice.
	Now, when you get into Satanism and deeper levels of voodoo, it does require blood sacrifices.
	Now, in the Satanism, a lot of times I used my own blood.
	And I mean, I've got scars all over me where I had cut myself to bleed.
	Hmm.
	So it's like self-mutilation, isolation, and uh... It's like, I can't say it on YouTube, but what happened in the last couple of years made everybody isolate each other, and it changed the whole world.
	Look at today, people are just like changed spiritually and mentally.
	You know, it's crazy out there, but that's what they do in the occult.
	It's like they isolate you so you... Your whole personality, everything you, you know, grew up to be is just robbed and gone, like just erased, so they could transform you from within, and uh...
	And they call this the spiritual enlightenment.
	I don't see what the enlightenment is about that, but yeah, it's crazy stuff.
	They call it spiritual enlightenment in the world.
	I mean, there's so much.
	It's not just like witchcraft and Satanism.
	You got all the New Age stuff and all this new spiritualism that comes out.
	It's like they create a different religion every day.
	But, you know, all this stuff is supposed to be for some type of enlightenment.
	And that's what they're telling you.
	Like, you know, it's going to...
	It's going to open you up more.
	It's going to take you to a different level.
	It's going to make you more complete and stuff.
	No, it's not.
	You are being bound.
	You are being chained.
	You are being held captive and you don't even realize it.
	And it's like you don't realize it.
	You are so blinded and so deceived that until God opens your eyes, I mean, once he does, you look back and it's like, I look back over my life and I'm like, what in the world was I doing?
	Like, what was I thinking?
	You know, I did this and I did this and I did this and I did this and I had no Realization that what I was doing was wrong, but it's like I should have known, but I, but it was, I was so blinded and so deceived.
	It's like, as you go and participate in anything that has to do with the enemy side, with Satan's side, and I call him the enemy because that's what he is.
	He is the enemy of your soul.
	So when I say the enemy, I'm referring to Satan, but anything of darkness, anything that has absolutely anything to do with him.
	Everything.
	Every time that you participate in it, it's like a scale gets put over your eyes.
	Slowly, slowly, slowly, until you are absolutely totally blind.
	You are blinded.
	You are deaf.
	I mean, it's like you almost have amnesia from anything anybody's ever tried to tell you.
	Because I should have known better.
	You know, I grew up in church.
	I should have known better.
	I was there every time the doors were open.
	But it was like when I was doing these rituals and I was just willingly getting on my knees and bowing down to Satan, to Lucifer, or to whoever he wanted to call himself that made the mother, the crone, whatever he was calling himself at that time in my life.
	I should have known better, but it was almost like I had amnesia.
	I could not remember or recall the teachings that I had learned when I was a child in church.
	I didn't pay any mind.
	It was like, you're not even there anymore.
	You are so deceived.
	And I mean, when those scales come off and God opens your eyes to what's really going on in your life and what you're doing and how bound up you are.
	I mean, it takes you back.
	It's a big wake up call when you look back and see it.
	So what made you decide one day, it's like, all right, I'm done with this stuff.
	What made you come to the cross?
	I had, um, I took martial arts.
	It was Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
	And I want to say that, and I know that he was, because I started kind of having a distaste for what I was doing.
	Not fully, but it was like...
	You know, the times I had like dedicated days and dedicated times that I would do my rituals, and I would do my prayers, and I would cast my circle, and I would do all of my things.
	And it was like I wasn't doing it as often.
	It was almost like I just didn't want to.
	And to me, looking back, I honestly can say that I believe that was the Holy Spirit starting to kind of poke at me.
	When I was taking this martial arts, a pastor had joined our class and I went every week.
	And every time, and I mean, I would be in there with like, you know, my workout clothes on for the class.
	And I had these satanic symbols tattooed all over me.
	And he would come by me and make a point to come by me before we left class.
	And he would just look at me and smile and say, Jesus told me to tell you he loves you.
	And it would make me so mad because for so many years, you know, people had tried to witness to me when they would find out I was, you know, what I was and what I was doing, but they were always, Like, screaming in my face, you're an abomination to God.
	You're going to hell.
	I didn't care.
	I didn't care I was going to hell.
	I didn't, you know, technically, you know, it's in my opinion, it was like, okay, so if there's a hell and I'm going to it, you know, then my master is the master of hell.
	So how bad can it be?
	I mean, that's how, that's how deceived I was in my line of thinking.
	So, you know, when they would say stuff like that and tell me, it was like, they would look at me and say, you're an abomination to God.
	Well, okay.
	And I even told a pastor one time, I said, who tried to witness to me, I said, so you're telling me that God dislikes me, that I'm an abomination to him.
	What makes you think I would want to serve a God that I think hates me?
	I'm like, you know, the God I'm serving now is all accepting and he doesn't, you know, I'm good with him.
	So you're telling me, you're trying to witness me, but you're telling me that God hates me and he wants me to burn.
	So I never was able to receive because I had that wall up and that defense up about it.
	But it made me so mad every time that this preacher would come by and tell me that Jesus loved me because I could understand God not liking me.
	I could understand, okay, I'm an abomination to Him because of what I'm doing, and I am worshiping Satan, and I'm doing it willingly.
	Like, I'm not forced to, and I'm not blinded by it.
	I'm willingly bowing down to Him, so I can understand God being mad at me.
	What I couldn't understand is why He would love me, and that's That's what got me so, like, I couldn't stop thinking about it.
	It was like I would lay in bed at night and I'd toss and turn because I was like, why would Jesus love me?
	Like, He doesn't love me.
	There's no way He could love me because of what I do and who I am.
	It's like, why would He even love me?
	But it's like every week, This pastor would look at me and smile and point his finger at me and he said, Jesus told me to tell you he loves you.
	Jesus told me to tell you he loves you.
	And I mean, I got so mad.
	I have, I had cussed this man out.
	I called him everything but a child of God.
	I mocked God to him.
	I mean, anything that I could do to try to get him to leave me alone, to make him upset with me.
	And he would still come by and tell me that Jesus said, tell you he loves you.
	And I looked at him one day, I said, why would he love me?
	I'm like, stop saying that to me because he doesn't.
	I'm like, I'm a witch.
	I worship the devil.
	I practice Satanism.
	I have satanic tattoos all over me.
	And you're going to try to tell me that Jesus loves me.
	I'm like, I want you to stop saying it to me because he doesn't.
	And he said, he still tells me to tell you he loves you.
	And so, like I said, I could understand him being mad at me, but I could not understand him loving me.
	And then this pastor kept inviting me to church.
	He would see me at class and he said, Jesus loves you.
	Come to church Easter Sunday.
	And I mean, I would cuss him out and say, I'm not coming to your church.
	You know, that's not going to happen.
	And he would still persistently do it.
	And when it got Easter Sunday, it was like that, that two days before he invited me again, he was like, it's this Sunday, so and so church, you be there.
	Here's the time.
	I expect you to see you there.
	And it was almost like when that Sunday came, I got up to go, but I got up to go out of spite because I was like, I'm going to show him that I can walk in this church.
	Nothing's going to happen to me.
	I'm going to walk in, I'm going to sit there, be bored, and I'm going to leave.
	That's going to be the end of it.
	And then I'll show him, hey, look, this is what it is.
	Quit asking me.
	Quit telling me.
	It's not going to happen.
	So that day I did get up.
	I did get ready.
	I took two shots of tequila before I went.
	I really did.
	I went in, I walked up to the church, walked right past everybody, went in there, and I went to the middle of the church, to the middle of the pews, and I sat down, and the whole time I sat there like this.
	And at that service, they had like a special speaker.
	And he didn't know me or know anything about me, and I was just sitting there just staring at him and wasn't paying a bit of attention.
	Didn't listen to the songs, didn't listen to the prayer requests, didn't listen to none of it.
	I was just sitting there being stubborn and with this hateful look on my face.
	And this preacher who got up there, he started preaching about the cross and why Jesus went to the cross and why he rose again.
	And, you know, the whole purpose of it was because he loved us.
	It was like his whole sermon was about the love of Jesus and how much he loves us.
	And I was sitting there and I started saying to myself, you know, like to God, but I wasn't saying it out loud, but I was like, God, I don't understand.
	Like, he's saying that you love me.
	You have this fool over here telling me that you love me.
	You know, that was my thoughts.
	I was like, how could you love me?
	Why would you want to love me?
	Like, I worship the devil.
	I worship your enemy.
	I willingly do it.
	I have done horrible things in the name of Satan.
	I've done horrible things in worship to him.
	Why would you love me?
	How could you even love me?
	Why would you want to?
	I'm an abomination to you.
	I represent everything that's darkness.
	Why would you want anything to do with me?
	And I felt the warmest hug that I have ever felt.
	It is beyond words.
	There is no way to describe it, but it was like a gigantic hug that just come up behind me and wrapped its arms around me.
	I had never felt so much love and so much warmth ever in my entire life.
	I literally started bawling and crying.
	I just broke.
	It was like just that love that wrapped around me.
	That stony facade that I had wrapped around me, he broke it.
	It just broke off from that love that I felt and that warmth.
	It was just nothing but love and warmth that surrounded me.
	That's awesome.
	And this preacher is still talking about the love of Christ, the love of Christ, how much Jesus loves us, how much Jesus loves us.
	And I stood up and I walked up to the front of that church.
	And like I said, the minister who kept telling me Jesus loved me, he was just sitting down.
	This was a special speaker.
	So he didn't know nothing about me.
	And I walked right up to him and he bent down and he was like, you know, what can I do for you?
	And I said, I just, I told him, I said, I'm a witch and I don't want to be anymore.
	And I mean, I hit my knees right there at that altar.
	Wow.
	And he, you know, he led me through the, through praying and, you know, we, I ended up getting with all of them and, and three ministers came to my house and we cleaned everything out of my house that I could find.
	It was 12, it was either 12 or 13 of the contractor trash bags.
	So 23 years of occult stuff that was hidden all throughout my house.
	And then some of it was open on display.
	I mean, we dragged out my altar table, which was a good size black table.
	I had a closet full of ritual robes.
	All this stuff.
	I mean, it was in drawers.
	It was in my kitchen.
	It was in my living room.
	It was in my bathroom.
	I mean, it was every single room had occult items in it.
	Wow.
	And we got everything out of my house and they took it and they burnt every bit of it.
	And that's...
	That's where my story began.
	That's where it began.
	That was the day it began because it was like, you know, and they told me, they were like, you know, you got to get this stuff and put it in the bag.
	Like, we can't do it for you.
	You got to say, okay, I'm done with this.
	I renounced this stuff.
	I don't want nothing to do with it.
	You know, I want rid of it.
	I want it out of my life.
	So, I mean, it took hours and hours and hours.
	I mean, it was, All day thing from from dusk to dawn trying to go through there and pull out all them trash bags and stuff.
	Well, God bless you.
	I'm glad you did that because, you know, like you were saying earlier, it's just a path of darkness.
	I always compare it to like a black tar, a sludge.
	Once you get in, you get deeper and you can't get out.
	It's sickening.
	And you're so right saying it because it's like any of the, when I read my Bible and it's talking about how he pulls you out of the mire, you know, that's what I think about.
	It's like being stuck in that.
	I mean, it is like tar.
	It's like almost like quicksand.
	It's like, you know, when you're in it, you step in it, you're okay for a second.
	And then you're up to your neck and you can't get yourself out.
	And, you know, you're struggling and you're just making it worse.
	You're just sinking further.
	You know, the more you move, the further down you go.
	Yep.
	And, you know, until your life snuffed out of you.
	And so when I read about, you know, how he pulls us out of the mire and out of that mirey clay, that's what I picture.
	It's like that quicksand.
	And tar is a perfect representation of anything that has to do with Satan is tar.
	Like you might be okay walking on it for a second, but you're going to go down.
	Yeah, and like the spiritual warfare part too, we were talking about too.
	The churches, and I'm glad the pastor kept doing it, because I think the pastor sensed that, and knew you were into witchcraft, obviously, you know, so Jesus, you know, the Holy Spirit was reaching out to him to say, listen, like, keep working on her.
	And that's all you can do.
	But if you got a pastor that comes out there, and that's what drives people away, is they say, oh, you're going to go to hell, and you know, start scolding you, instead of saying, listen, listen, I want to help you.
	You know, if they come up to you and say like he did, you know, Jesus loves you, or I want to help you, come to my church and all that, that's great.
	I mean, at first you're going to be rebelled about it, but like you eventually went.
	But if you never had that happen to you, And all you heard is from Christians saying that you're gonna go to hell this and the other thing just scolding you You probably still be a witch today, you know, and so that's why it's very important That's why I started to show a spiritual warfare Friday Because I felt that the churches were not teaching spiritual warfare And there's a lot of pastors and ministers out there who are complete oblivious to anything to do with spiritual warfare I've been to a church where Absolutely.
	Yeah, and the elders took me aside and said, listen, we got to talk to you.
	They found out what I did.
	It's like, oh, it's not part of my doctrine.
	You shouldn't be talking or teaching that.
	I'm like, what are you talking about?
	This is all biblical stuff.
	It may not be part of their doctrine, but it's part of the Bible.
	Yeah, that's what I told them.
	It's God's Word.
	I said, isn't your doctrine supposed to be about the Bible?
	You know, it's bizarre.
	It doesn't matter what your doctrine is, it's what the Bible says.
	That's what you need to, you know, and you're talking about like spiritual warfare and I just so happen to have had this.
	It's like, you know, I went through and went through all the, got all the verses I could find on spiritual warfare because it just shocks me how many people have no clue what, how to, What to do about it?
	They don't know, you know, they know about the armor of God, but then it's like, they don't know how to apply that, you know, or apply it to their life.
	And it's like, they have no clue about spiritual warfare and what to even do about it or what it even is.
	So it's like, I was, I got on my laptop one day and went through the Bible and typed up everything that I could find, every verse I could find.
	on spiritual warfare that i can give people to say here this right here the word of god that's your sword yeah this little pamphlet here is plump full of the word of god and that's right there's all that's what you need i even told us uh one of the held elders it's um the last church i actually went to I said, listen, um, let me ask you something.
	If somebody walked into the church and said, hey, I've been possessed or abducted, you know, well, you know, the fallen angels or, you know, the Nephilim and all that, the so-called aliens.
	But I said, if somebody walked in to say, if you, uh, I've been abducted or possessed, I need help, what would you do?
	Oh, I would have them committed.
	I'm like, really?
	My mouth dropped.
	I'm like, you're supposed to be a church of God.
	You're supposed to know the stuff.
	You know, it's like, wow.
	You know, it's a wonder why people turn from the modern day churches.
	And, you know, it's sickening because the churches drive them away, because of lack of knowledge.
	And you should be sympathetic, try to help them and all that.
	And, you know, offer help and all that.
	And eventually you plant the seed, it's going to grow or not.
	You know, like the parable of the seeds and everything.
	So, like, the seed was planted in you and it worked.
	And it's, you know, not being ignorant of Satan's devices, being ignorant, and I don't mean ignorant like in a bad way, but, you know, being unknowing or untaught or unlearned in that there is spiritual warfare, that you do have an enemy, that he is after your soul, that he is after your destruction, that he is after your children, you know, he is after your husband or your wife.
	I mean, that's what he wants.
	And I mean, the churches today who aren't teaching this stuff is playing people right into the enemy's hands.
	It's like people, Christians especially now, we are living such defeated lives.
	That's because we just lay down and let Satan just stomp all over us.
	We let him just stomp all over our children, take out still all our joy and our peace and our happiness.
	And still, you know, try to steal away our focus on God and try to distract us from the Word of God.
	And I mean, we're playing right into it.
	Because we're not teaching about spiritual warfare.
	People don't have no idea.
	They start going through something.
	They start being attacked by the enemy or their children are getting attacked and they're like, well, I don't know what to do.
	What am I supposed to do about it?
	You get that Word of God out and you start speaking these verses that God gave you on spiritual warfare.
	You know, you get in the Word, you get in a relationship with God, you get on your knees and you pray.
	I mean, there's all kinds of stuff that the Bible tells you to do about it.
	You don't sit back unless the enemy defeats you.
	I mean, it's discouraging.
	I have people message me all the time and they're like, oh, this is going on in my family.
	This is going on in my... and they seem so helpless and so hopeless.
	And I'm like, well, here's what you need.
	First of all, you need your sword.
	I mean, who are you going to fight him against?
	You have to have your weapon.
	You've got to have your sword.
	You've got to have the word of God.
	I'm like, people have no idea.
	And that's why there's so many living such a defeated life.
	It's like Christians should not be defeated.
	You are not defeated.
	You're not fighting for victory.
	You're fighting from victory.
	The enemy's already been overcome.
	And it's like the churches don't even teach that.
	And half the churches today, and it's sad to say, are defeated themselves.
	Because we're straight away from the truth, from the Word of God.
	And we've sat back thinking that the devil's just out here and he's not doing nothing to us.
	It's just, no, he is.
	Hmm, you're right.
	Hold on one second, Kerry.
	I just want to address something in the chat room because I've been seeing people conflicting with each other.
	So guys, in the chat room, guys, if you don't want to talk to somebody in the chat room, right, I'm not going to play these little games here.
	If you don't want to talk to somebody in the chat room, just block them on your own because the thing is people need this fellowship here and you might not agree with somebody, whatever the case.
	You know what I mean?
	Because I know there's a lot of people getting blocked so I'm asking my moderators not to block anybody unless they're like being a real jerk or something or a troll whatever the case so about like there's you know certain individuals here but if you don't like the person directly all you have to do is hold over the name to the right you see three dots click on that dot and you can block that person so you will not see that person in that chat room
	If that person you don't like whatever case because again, I don't want people being blocked if they're you know, if they disagree with you whether that's fine It's their right to do that.
	But let's have being jerks whatever about you know, because I don't want to have to deal with this stuff I have a great guest on here and I don't want to have to deal with this Nanny stuff, you know, I mean and it's ridiculous So if you don't like somebody just block them on your own.
	I'm not gonna block people no more.
	I Unless again, they're being jerks and it's just because we need to fellowship with each other We need to get along and if you're not getting along but you're on the same page with you with this Bible with the Bible and everything else so try to Come to a mediation with each other and you know, I'll explain the stuff later.
	I'm sorry.
	I'll carry it's just like a lot of controversy going in the chat rooms there You're fine.
	And I mean, that's something that I wish people would see too.
	It's like, especially if they, I can't see the chat room on my screen, but I don't know what's going on.
	But listen, people, if we're, if, if these are Christians arguing, cause I don't know what's being said.
	Hmm.
	Stop letting Satan win.
	I mean, this is what he wants.
	He wants you distracted from this message.
	He wants you distracted from the truth.
	He wants us fighting with each other over... If it ain't in the Word of God, or get in the Word of God, find out what he has to say about it.
	It don't matter what I say about anything.
	It don't matter what the sister down the road says, or the brother down the road.
	It's what the Word of God says.
	But us arguing and fighting against each other and fighting with each other, I mean, you're doing Satan's job for him.
	I mean, he wants a division there.
	He doesn't want us together.
	We need to open our eyes and see that this is what he wants.
	This is what he enjoys, is us fighting with each other.
	My Bible study videos, I do one chapter at a time and we just get into the context of it.
	And we like spend like almost an hour sometimes on one chapter.
	But I'm in the book of 1 Corinthians and Paul's letter to the church because he went back there, he's like, he was upset because you got a big division.
	You got people who follow Apollos and people who follow Paul, which Paul and Apollos were on the same page, but people were divided over that.
	So he went there to straighten matters out, tell people we need to be on the same mindset.
	And united.
	So I'm telling people in the chat room here guys, please work it out.
	You know what?
	Here's the thing.
	I know there's people who don't like each other.
	One day, if you want, we'll set up a mediation.
	I'll video you guys.
	We could talk the things out and work the things out.
	Because I know there's a lot of controversy.
	But you need to be on the same page.
	It's very important.
	And if you want more understanding, just watch my series on 1 Corinthians.
	I'll read it for yourself.
	It does.
	talks about the same matter that Paul dealt back in those days, back in the first century with the Church of Corinth.
	So we're dealing with the same thing now.
	We can't be divided.
	And I noticed on Facebook people have set up these group pages, and they talk smack about the other people in the other pages.
	And I'm part of all these pages.
	I'm like, well, what are you guys doing?
	It's like, let's not do this.
	Let's not stop gossip and all that stuff.
	Because, like you were saying, it falls right into the hands of the enemy, and it divides the church.
	And we're all in the church here, guys.
	That's what the enemy wants is Satan wants us divided.
	He wants us not to be able to stand together.
	He doesn't want us in one mind and in one accord.
	He doesn't want us agreeing in prayer together.
	He doesn't want us fighting together, you know, for God's kingdom.
	He doesn't want us fighting Satan's kingdom.
	He doesn't want us reaching the lost.
	He wants us too busy, distracted, fighting with each other, instead of out here trying to reach souls that are going to hell.
	You know, people that are bound, people that are losing their life somewhere, probably right now, this very second, there's somebody overdosing and they're, you know, if they don't, we're too busy fighting with each other, we should be together praying for, for, Somebody to witness to them, for us to be sent to witness to them, for praying for people who are lost and dying and going to hell.
	And you can spend five seconds on the news.
	You can see how fast it's happening.
	But we're too busy being distracted and we need to realize where that's coming from.
	And we need to stop it in its tracks because this is what he wants.
	He wants us to fight with each other.
	Yeah, and I apologize, Carrie, because something's been going on for a while and I addressed it before, but people don't get the hint.
	I just say block them.
	If you don't want to deal with them, that's fine.
	Just block them on your own.
	I'm not going to block the person because, you know, a certain person doesn't like them.
	You know, it's just ridiculous.
	It's like trying to, you know, I don't know.
	It's just crazy.
	It's trying to deal with kids.
	Not saying they're kids or whatever, but it's just, it's crazy.
	We just, just like you're saying, we need to come together, find out whatever the difference is, try to work it out, and let's get our focus on trying to reach people and trying to see that souls are saved.
	Try to win some souls for the kingdom of God, and let's try to work all this stuff out and not fight with each other.
	Amen to that.
	Yeah, so, you know, I'm glad you came out of the craft and everything and all those years.
	How many years total were you in Nicole?
	23.
	That's a long time.
	23 years.
	It actually just took, it was three, a little over three months.
	It would have been 24 years.
	Wow.
	So.
	Now you're eternity with Jesus.
	So.
	Absolutely.
	And I can tell you that, you know, that's something that I always want to make sure that I, There was so much.
	It wasn't just like the the yoke of bondage that Jesus took from me, but he has healed so many wounds and Just renewed and transformed my mind and transformed the way that I think he has.
	He has changed my entire heart.
	I mean, if I showed you pictures of what I looked like before, even my physical looks have changed.
	My eyes are different.
	Like I had, I had just darkness in my eyes, like my eyes looked almost black, but it's like, you know, even my physical appearance is different.
	And you know, this, The Lord has just made His self so real to me and so personal to me.
	And, you know, I am grateful for the grace of God.
	I'm grateful for the cross.
	I'm grateful for His mercy.
	I am grateful that He left the 99 to come look for me.
	You know, He came to my darkest place in my darkest hour to get me.
	So, you know, if you're praying for somebody and you feel like you just want to give up praying for them because it doesn't seem like anything's happening, don't give up.
	Don't stop praying for them because God hears your prayers.
	He can go anywhere to get them.
	If He can go where I was, He can go into The crack house to get them.
	You know, God sees them wherever they're at.
	You know, Psalms 139 says, you know, even if I made my bed in hell, you're still there.
	It's like, He's even there, He can get them.
	And there's nothing that He can't set you free from.
	You know, it wasn't just the witchcraft and the Satanism.
	You know, I was addicted to alcohol.
	I couldn't go to sleep at night unless I...
	Took like six of his shots to fall asleep, you know?
	It was depression and anxiety and suicidal thoughts and suicidal attempts and you know, all of this stuff that he has healed me from.
	And took away from me.
	And you know, somebody told me the other day, they heard one of my podcasts that I had done, and they said, I can't picture you ever being like that.
	They said, it's just, it's unbelievable to them.
	They said they could never picture me being that person.
	And I just smiled and I looked at them and I said, thank you.
	I said, because that's what should make the difference.
	Like if they see the old you and the new you, the new creation in Christ, you shouldn't be able to tell that was the same person.
	There should be a difference.
	Yeah.
	That was like the biggest compliment I think I've ever had is that somebody said, I cannot picture you that way because you're totally opposite of that way.
	And I was like, that is like the best thing anybody's ever said to me.
	And it's all by the grace of God.
	All Jesus.
	Amen to that.
	That's so awesome.
	I love hearing testimonies like that.
	Because, you know, that's like a path to hell, literally, when we dabbled in the occult and everything else.
	And plus, what the scriptures say, especially in Deuteronomy 18, it talks about that.
	And I think, again, in Deuteronomy 20, about being witchcraft, divination, and all that stuff.
	Yes.
	And let it be not found among you.
	And I know it applied to the Israel back then, but in today's world, God's Israel is us, the people, his people know that.
	So he's not going to let us into his kingdom.
	We could say we believe all day long and really believe in Jesus, but we're still doing this divinization, you know, which he deems an abomination, you know, we're still doing this divinization.
	Yeah, we're not going anywhere, but, you know, to the Lake of Fire, you know, and it's like witchcraft is very, especially we were talking earlier about those so-called Christian witches in Salem.
	And it's like, what an oxymoron to say that to those people out there.
	How do you serve two masters?
	You know, it's like, when God says to stay away from the stuff because it's an abomination, And like you're saying, you're a Christian and a witch, so basically you're trying to justify being what you're doing, you know, it makes no sense at all.
	It doesn't, and like when we were talking earlier about that, one thing that I had said, it's like, if you're calling yourself a Christian witch, or you're saying you're a Christian, but you're still, you know, you may not call yourself a witch, but you may be
	Doing paranormal stuff with spirit boxes and Ouija boards, or you may be reading tarot cards, going and getting your cards read, or, you know, using crystals and doing the Reiki healing, all that stuff like that.
	You're right in the fence.
	And see, the thing about Satan is that he doesn't care as long as you're not totally surrendered to Christ.
	Satan will let you ride that fence all you want, and he'll let you ride it right into hell.
	Because Satan doesn't care if you call yourself a Christian if you're still playing patty cake with him at the same time.
	He's still got you.
	So, you know, realize, and you don't have to take my opinion for anything that I've said.
	You don't even have to take my testimony for anything I've said.
	Get the Word of God out.
	Look it up.
	Get in the back.
	Look up all the verses that God says about witchcraft and divination and sorcery.
	See what God has to say about it, because that's who you answer to.
	You're not going to answer to me.
	You know, it's what God says about it that matters.
	And if you can read through the Bible and see what God says about it and still try to justify your action, you know, I would open my eyes.
	I would open my eyes because light and darkness cannot have fellowship together.
	You know, Jesus is light and there is no darkness in him at all.
	You can't hold hands with Satan and try to serve God at the same time.
	You can't be of this world and of the kingdom of God at the same time.
	You have to be transformed.
	You have to surrender.
	You have to fully serve and dedicate your life to Christ.
	You won't regret it.
	I promise you.
	Absolutely.
	I promise you, you will not regret it if you do.
	It's like those crystals, those false gods, that magic, all that stuff is not ever going to satisfy that longing that you have.
	The only person that can satisfy that longing is who that longing was always meant for, and that's Jesus Christ.
	And there's nothing that you've done that even if you've bowed down to Satan, if you've participated in witchcraft, if you're addicted to drugs, alcohol, anything like that, I mean, Jesus can forgive you.
	He can set you free.
	But you can't play both.
	You can't have both.
	You know, the world will let you think that you can.
	Satan wants you to think that you can.
	But you can't.
	You can't have both.
	You've got to choose who you're going to serve.
	Now, um, when, I know when one leaves the occult and all that, Satan doesn't like that because he wants to keep you to himself.
	So, uh, what were the backlashes?
	Because I know you got some spiritual backlashes for a while until you really pound him home.
	Like you gotta get rid of all your strongholds, this and the other thing, but you get a little spiritual backlash for a while.
	Uh, did you get any of those?
	Like when you, that day in church, it's like, you know what?
	I'm done with this witchcraft.
	I want to accept Jesus.
	Then you went home and got rid of all that stuff.
	Was there any spiritual problems going on in your home?
	Was there a major backlash?
	There was.
	There were so many times that I was absolutely tormented because Satan doesn't want to let you go.
	He's not just going to say, okay, bye.
	Especially if you were serving him and you were doing work.
	I was dedicated to him.
	There was demonic torment, oppression that came, voices in the night, you know, not being able to sleep because, I mean, I would hear voices hollering for me and saying stuff to me and feel presence standing at the end of my bed and, you know, just utter torment.
	My Bible, you probably can't see on here, but it's got claw marks on it because so many times I've had to pray and cry and just pray and was clawing my Bible to my chest and holding that Word of God as close as I could to me.
	And my Bible has claw marks on it from where I was holding on to His Word so hard trying to go to sleep at night.
	You know, that was something that The Lord had to take me through.
	And was it easy?
	No.
	I mean, it was a battle.
	It was like the spiritual warfare, the battle began immediately.
	Yeah.
	You know, it was immediate.
	So it was like, you get it, you come out of the occult, you get a crash course in spiritual warfare real quick.
	Real quick.
	Cause it starts happening immediately.
	And, you know, thank goodness that I had, you know, a pastor who knew about spiritual warfare and I was, you know, calling saying, Hey, this is going on and I don't know what to do, you know, and they were able to To educate me on spiritual warfare and how to battle it and give me the scriptures on it to say and how to pray and how to rebuke Satan.
	Because to me, when I first got saved, I was like, I don't have no power to rebuke him.
	Because to me, being in the occult, Satan was some kind of powerful being.
	He was to be feared.
	And it's like, now that I'm in Christ, I had to learn that.
	You know, who I was in Christ and had to be taught that.
	And that's something else that's real important for ministers and churches to do, is to make sure people know who they are in Christ.
	You know, they don't have to cower down from Satan.
	They don't have to cower down from this oppression, you know, that you have power and authority.
	It was given to you by Christ to tread on him, to rebuke him.
	You don't have to sit there and allow him to torment you.
	And I didn't know that at first.
	So it was like I said, I got a crash course in spiritual warfare.
	Yeah, I helped my cousin Ron.
	He was deep into Satanism.
	They had a death metal band, the whole nine yards, and he had tattoos and everything, carvings all over him.
	And so when I finally, you know, he's a great guy though.
	And that's why I seen the good in him.
	Yeah, I'm taking you, well actually through Jesus, I'm taking you away from Satan, plain and simple.
	So he came to the cross and all that stuff, and for a while he, well, the spiritual repercussions, because the thing is so he didn't get rid of a lot of his strongholds, he still had ties to the band, he still had ties to different things he was doing, and I'm like, dude, you gotta get rid of this stuff.
	I don't care how much money you spent on it, Whatever the case you do pilot repentance is getting away from it all because you're still allowing a stronghold in your life And that's which caught at the time causing family problems and everything else and so and there's some other problems Yeah, I too.
	I don't want to mention it.
	Yeah, but That was a big part of that And so when I talked to him the last time I told him like when you come back because he's in prison right now and you know, nothing bad he did but he's in prison and I told him when you come back you need to Erase everything the whole new life and you know start walking toward the cross more, you know Get away from all the other stuff.
	so now he understands unfortunately because of where he is so sometimes it takes falling on your face to wake up and the thing is too a lot of people will say oh man if I leave the cult I don't want to get that backlash but here's the thing the cool part about this because when we get out of that stuff yeah you face major backlash but guess what God allows these spiritual warfare to happen because what it does it builds your faith
	it makes you impenetrable because you feel like powerful not that you yourself but through Jesus because these spiritual battles you're going through demons attacking you and when you rebuke these things you feel the true power of the Holy Spirit in you and it makes sure all the attributes Your faith, your spiritual strength, the whole nine yards.
	And that's why God allows you to go through these spiritual battles, because it's like forging a sword through fire.
	You make a sword, somebody can break the sword, but it's got to be folded and forged through fire over and over again, battle tested.
	Before you become that mighty spiritual sword and you know in this speaking here So yeah, you gotta go through spiritual battles and I still go through spiritual battles But you know what it just makes you that much stronger in faith and everything else.
	It's awesome It absolutely does, because if you think about it, you're a soldier in the army of God.
	Our soldiers, they don't just throw them out on the battlefield and be like, okay, go fight this enemy.
	You're trained.
	You go to boot camp.
	You've got to learn how to be a soldier.
	You've got to learn how to fight that enemy.
	Every spiritual battle that you go through is like part of that boot camp and you're going to get stronger and you're going to be a better soldier and you're going to know more about how to defeat that enemy and what the enemy, you know, has to bring against you, you know, like his schemes and his what he's going to use to try to get at you.
	You know, I mean, each and every spiritual warfare battle that you go through.
	I mean, is it easy?
	No.
	There's going to be times that you're probably going to have to hit your knees and cry out to God with everything that's in you.
	You know, you may have to claw your Bible to sleep at night.
	You know, whatever it takes.
	My Bible's got tear stains all over it.
	It's got, I mean, I've been through some stuff since I've come out, but each and every time that you've went through that wilderness, you've went through that solitary place, you've had to fight, you know, learn how to fight the enemy, you've had to learn how to rebuke, you've had to learn how to stand, you know, you feel like you make it through one and here he comes again with something else and tries to knock your breath out of you.
	But each and every time that God brings you through that, it makes you a stronger, better soldier for God's kingdom.
	That's funny you mention that terminology.
	And you're able, I mean you're a better soldier with each and everything that you got through.
	Yes.
	And that's amazing I should say that you mention that the military because I use that for example all the time.
	When you join the army it does mean you're ready to fight.
	You've got to go through boot camp, then the MOS school.
	Then even before you go to war, you've got to get recon of what's going on.
	They've got to make a plan, a battle plan.
	Then they train you specifically for that specific mission.
	So it's a process.
	You know what I mean?
	Same thing in the spiritual war.
	It's the same thing.
	I'm a Christian now, so I can walk into a place full of demons.
	No, you can't.
	You've got to spiritual train yourself.
	And unfortunately, like I said earlier, the churches ain't doing this no more.
	There are no more boot camps for the Lord no more.
	They're just like, come on, O Lord.
	And we'll sing along, have a concert, and all that stuff, and that's it.
	Instead of spiritually training people to get ready for the war, because especially the end times here come.
	I mean, wow.
	I mean, if you're not ready, like Jesus says, the things that come on this earth, men's heart's going to fail.
	The return of the Nephilim, when the abyss opens in Revelation 9, when these Nephilim-like creatures come on the earth, yeah, people's hearts are going to fail them because of the fright of these things.
	And we gotta be ready for this stuff because there's gonna be a whole new reality after that.
	That's cool how you mentioned that.
	It's so important, too, to be alert and vigilant as a soldier because, I mean, a soldier doesn't let your guard down.
	If they do, they're gonna get shot or blown up.
	So, I mean, you can't just as you're a soldier of God's army, you're in this spiritual warfare battle, you have to keep your eyes open.
	You have to be vigilant and watch out, especially now because look at the amount of deceit that is in the world today.
	How easy it is to get Deceived and even the Bible warned us against that said if it was possible the very elect would be deceived So we better be watchful.
	We better pay attention.
	We better realize what's deceit Mm-hmm.
	And how are you gonna know what's deceit is right here?
	God tells you what to watch out for.
	He tells you what deceit is He tells you what Satan's schemes are what he's going to use what his fiery darts are right here.
	Yep You know, you have to know that or you will be one of the ones who get deceived.
	Person in the chat room, Mellie, she wants to know from you, what were the steps you took toward a personal relationship with Jesus when you repented?
	That's a good question.
	It is a very good question.
	The first thing that I did, the church gave me a Bible.
	And I started reading the Bible and I started praying and talking to God.
	And I'm not like, now lay me down to sleep.
	I mean, it was like, I talk to God like I would talk to my best friend.
	You know, I don't, he knows everything in our hearts anyway and in our minds.
	So, I mean, I tell him, Everything that's in me and you know and try to have that relationship with Him.
	It's like you can't have a relationship with God if you don't spend time with Him.
	Just like you couldn't have a relationship with me if you didn't spend time with me.
	So, I got in the Word of God.
	I started in the Psalms and then I started in the Gospels.
	I would read a Psalm and read a Gospel.
	You know, I went back and forth because I was like, I need to read the red letters and I need something to kind of carry me through and give me some encouragement and everything.
	So I would pick a Psalm and I would pick a Gospel and read out of it.
	I got baptized, which to me was It was just so amazing and such a wonderful feeling because it was like, when I got down in that water, I was, I knew that I was dying to my old self and I, and was being risen new in Christ.
	You know, that, that was something that was very meaningful to me.
	Separating yourself from the world.
	is another step that I took.
	It's like I knew I had these bad things in my home.
	I knew, you know, I couldn't have that stuff in my house.
	Like I can't.
	All that stuff is stuff that I used to invite Satan into my life to invoke spirits into rituals.
	You know, I knew that that stuff had to come out.
	So I got rid of things that was associated with darkness and got all of that stuff out of my house.
	Um, And I found, you know, I went to church.
	It's like a lot of people say, I don't have to go to church to be Christian.
	But it's that fellowship is so important.
	Yes.
	To be around other people who can encourage you, to be around other people who, you know, can pray for you, to hear the word of God taught.
	You know, to hear the message that, you know, that pastor preaches, to be able to participate in that worship service and sing the songs.
	I mean, that's a part of that strength, too, that you're going to gain in your walk with the Lord.
	You've got to have that fellowship with other Christians.
	That's why I created the show and the chat room is a blessing because we're all the remnant of Jesus so we all get together from all over the world and everything that we could participate in the chat and just fellowship with each other and it's awesome and we take phone calls and everything else and it's great to hear testimonies and pray for people and it's a blessing.
	Because you know just like Sometimes we, we, we, sometimes all the time, we, we need each other.
	You know, even like we're talking about soldiers, soldiers get weary, they get tired, you know, and you got to have somebody else come up behind you to kind of watch you back and pick you up and help you along.
	And that's why that fellowship is so important and not, you know, to try to, Be around each other and support each other and love each other and edify each other.
	That's so important because when we're weak, then somebody else can come behind us and help pick our arms up and help lift us up.
	Help lift us up in prayer and encourage us in God's word and you know, show us even a testimony.
	They could tell you something, you might be going through something and they can say, Hey, you know what?
	I just went through that.
	Let me see what God did.
	You know, we can encourage and uplift each other.
	And that fellowship is so important because Satan wants us divided.
	He wants to separate us because if he can separate all of us from each other, then When you're weak, that's going to be the time he's going to be all over you.
	You know, if we stay together, you're a lot harder to take down if we're together.
	Then we're all, we're easy prey when we're apart and we're alone and you know, we're all by ourselves and we don't have anybody to come alongside us to help us fight.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	It's a, it's a blessing to tell you that.
	So, um, you got this, is this your friend of yours who wrote this book here?
	It is.
	It's a tower.
	And it's also, it's got other testimonies in it.
	There's 11 or 12 of them all together.
	This is the second edition.
	There is a first edition to it.
	The second edition is one that has my testimony included in it.
	But it really is wonderful because You get to read testimonies from others who also came out of the occult.
	They, each one of us, you know, came out of a different path of the occult and each story is different.
	So you get to see how this person got deceived into it.
	And then this person, it was something totally different to drew them into it.
	And it's very eye opening to see how each one of these people ended up in the occult.
	And then it's, it's so, Inspiring and such a blessing to read each testimony and see how God reached out to them, how they came to know Jesus.
	It really is a wonderful book and wonderful testimonies in it.
	And it also addresses some things.
	That kind of the church needs to know.
	Kind of different schemes of the enemy that we as people who come out of the occult is trying to bring attention to so that people in the church doesn't get deceived.
	Exactly.
	Now, you were in all these cults and everything else.
	So could you give like a testimony of how, did you ever go into New Age at all?
	Because you know how the New Age, they're infiltrating a lot of Christian churches out there?
	The New Age is completely infiltrating the church today.
	And the thing about it is, is what they call New Age is witchcraft practices.
	It's like, to say I participated in the New Age, oh absolutely, because it's part of the witchcraft.
	That's where that comes from.
	You know, the belief in the crystals, the belief in your Third Eye and the Reiki healing and all of these things here, it's all part of witchcraft.
	So the New Age and the witchcraft is all one and the same, and they want to call it by some other name, but it's still witchcraft.
	Yeah, and they teach, uh, then, you know, conscious, uh, Christ's conscience, uh, you know, all that cosmic stuff.
	Uh, you know, ascended masters and all that.
	We did like a lot of shows on that stuff.
	And, uh, but yeah, if people could see how this is all connected, like I say, a lot of times when you look at the occult, yeah, one sector of the occult might seem different from others, but overall it fits that one giant puzzle of Satan.
	You know, Satan's got many pieces of that puzzle that you can take part.
	These, this piece could not possibly have anything to do with that.
	But it's all part of the same puzzle, you know.
	It's like if you can take it and Satan wants to repackage it and shine it up a little bit and call it new age, you know, or call it spiritualism instead of calling it witchcraft, you know, but it is all the same.
	And like I said before, Satan doesn't care.
	He still has you.
	As long as you're not calling on the name of Jesus Christ and serving Jesus and dedicating your life to God, Satan doesn't care what you call it.
	If you want to call it New Age, if you want to call it Spiritualism, if you want to call it Witchcraft, it is all in the same because you're putting your trust in something other than Jesus.
	I mean, you're putting your trust in a stone.
	You're putting your trust in a tree.
	You're putting your trust in a goddess.
	You're putting your trust in an idol.
	You're putting your trust in yourself because now man is supposed to be some kind of like little demigod and you know, they're making, telling you, oh, you can manifest stuff and you can do all this stuff.
	And will it, will it work?
	Oh, like I said before, a little bit.
	Yeah.
	Because if it didn't, how could Satan get you?
	He couldn't keep you if some of his little smoke mirrors didn't work.
	That's his trick.
	So, I mean, he can package it any way he wants.
	The world can call it whatever they want, change its name a hundred times, and shine it up to make it seem more innocent, make it seem like it's something else.
	Oh, but you're just believing in yourself and manifesting stuff, and you have this power inside of you, and you know, you're this little demigod, and no, you're not.
	You're deceived No Sister max in the chat room.
	She's asking Might sound like a weird question, but she goes could you ask her if?
	Bicycle has anything to do witchcraft.
	There's a neighbor down Down here.
	That's a creepy children bicycle fence line.
	So it makes us a made a fence out of bicycles or something I don't know if you can see in the chat room.
	It's Himalaya max.
	Yeah, I don't see the chat room.
	Oh, okay No, not that.
	Anything that I participated in, I had nothing to do with that.
	Might as well be the Wicked Witch and the Wizard of Oz.
	They might be very eccentric.
	I got a question for you.
	So when you were in the craft, did you use any Stoshon spirits, elemental spirits?
	Elementals?
	No, not in the ones that I participated in.
	There are different, because there's 900 different paths in Witchcraft.
	I mean, there are so many.
	Some people just do it solitary and they just do whatever they want and combine all these different things Into it.
	So there's no like set rules.
	Okay, you've got to follow all this and this is the way it is Okay, but it's like in witchcraft.
	You know, you can incorporate there.
	There'll be one.
	It'll do some you won't find two wishes and They're practicing exactly the same.
	Yeah So basically, I know there's certain feasts you guys do certain different rituals on the other Covens, too Oh, yes Yeah, because I knew, wow, 900.
	I didn't know that was that many.
	I knew it was a lot of different sects of it.
	It's awful close to that.
	I mean, not in an exact number, but it's awful close, because I mean, you can go through and look at that.
	Even like in the book, all the different testimonies there, it's like no two are the same.
	It's like no two practice the same thing, no two believe the same thing, but it's like it was all deception.
	We'll look at the modern-day Christian churches.
	What, 40,000 different denominations of Christianity?
	Yeah, I mean... And people ask me, which one are you?
	I say, I don't follow any of them.
	I follow the scripture.
	I'm gonna follow Jesus Christ.
	That's what I have.
	I'm like, I follow the Word of God.
	Yep, amen.
	I mean, that's who I follow.
	And if I go somewhere and they don't follow it, then I will no longer be there.
	Yeah.
	That's what I follow.
	I follow the Word of God.
	Amen.
	So you want to stick around for some phone calls?
	I know you said you were tired for four o'clock in the morning.
	You woke up.
	I could probably do a morning take around.
	I've been up since four o'clock this morning, y'all.
	I'm so sorry.
	It's been a long day.
	Let me put that screen up here.
	So guys, if you want to give us a call, we'll put the number on the screen in a second here.
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	So just call now because she's tired.
	We used to start our shows at midnight years ago.
	Oh goodness.
	We went for like 4 in the morning sometimes.
	Hey, how you doing, brother?
	You there, Tim?
	What's up, man?
	Yeah, what's up?
	I can't hear you.
	Could you hear me?
	Yeah, can you hear me?
	I can't hear you.
	All right, hold on a second.
	Let me double check this phone.
	I can hear him a tad.
	Yeah.
	Let me see a microphone.
	Hang on, Tim.
	There we go.
	Could you hear me now?
	Yes.
	That's fine.
	I had the microphone hooked up to the system.
	I was just going to say another great show and thanks for your testimony.
	And who you don't expect.
	Or DJs, man.
	DJs all across the nation.
	You're coming in choppy, brother.
	Huh?
	See, you're coming in choppy.
	How about now?
	Yeah, you're like... I tried to listen as close as I could, but I can't understand you.
	Still choppy?
	I'm sorry.
	Yeah.
	Alright, well, it was great to show you anyhow.
	Alright, thanks brother.
	Alright.
	Shalom.
	So, a 719 number called, so... My system's choppy today, too.
	It's Timmy.
	Hey, what's up, Tim?
	Alright, is it better connected?
	I think so, yeah.
	Okay.
	I want you to think good shit.
	Thanks for your testimony.
	You're still breaking up?
	Yeah.
	I can hear him a little bit better.
	We'll try another time.
	Later.
	Later, brother.
	Yeah, my whole system is running choppy today.
	Let me shut one of these windows down.
	I was trying to see if I could find my earphones.
	I might be able to hear him a little bit better if I put them on.
	Oh no, it's not you, it's the system here.
	The system is like, my phone system is connected to the microphone and all that here, but it's not corresponding with the Google meeting.
	So I'll have to turn the speaker up.
	Let me try one more phone call here.
	Yeah, this is all running choppy, so.
	I'm trying to get a little closer to the speaker thing.
	So we call people back.
	Yeah, it's all acting choppy.
	So guys, I'm not going to be able to take phone calls tonight because I don't know what's going on here.
	My whole system's, like, all glitching, so... Yeah, so it wasn't... If you're listening, Tim, it wasn't you, it was my system here, so... I don't know what's going on.
	It's crazy.
	So, yeah, well... Yeah, thank you, Carrie.
	That's been an awesome interview and everything, so... Um, if you don't mind, you wanna say a prayer?
	Absolutely.
	Heavenly Father, I come to you in the name of Jesus, Lord, thanking you and praising you for this broadcast, for every person that was here to listen to it, those who will see it later, Lord.
	I thank you, Lord, that your light has shined in the darkness, Lord.
	I thank you for setting me free.
	And Lord, I ask that you open the eyes of each and every person that will hear this, Lord, and let your word go forth.
	And Father, I ask that you help us to be bold.
	When we spread your gospel, that we will be witnesses to this lost and dying world, Lord.
	Help us, Lord, to edify each other and to be forgiving and loving of each other as brothers and sisters in Christ, Lord.
	That we will not be distracted by the enemy, that we will be aware of his schemes and be vigilant of what he's doing, Lord.
	And we will work together and love each other and go out to reach the world and to reap the harvest, Lord.
	For I believe, Lord, this time is drawing near that Jesus is coming back, Lord, and we need to get to work.
	Lord, help us to be strong soldiers for your kingdom, Lord, to shine that light in the darkness.
	And Lord, that we will go after souls and we, Lord, just give us that boldness and that courage, like in the book of Acts, Lord, that we will stand and we will speak your truth to this lost and dying world.
	And Lord, I thank you and I praise you again for tonight and for this broadcast and for every person that was here to listen to it, Lord.
	And I thank you, Lord, in Jesus name.
	Amen.
	Father, I want to add, thank you for pulling Sister Carrie out of the craft, out of the darkness and into the light.
	And what a great testimony, what a great witness she is.
	And that's why Satan wanted her, because Satan knew you had a great plan for Sister Carrie here.
	And, um, thank you so much Lord for sending that pastor to her to tell her that you love her, Jesus.
	And, um, thank you so much for that.
	And I pray that you could just bless us to carry here and bind any and all evil spirits that seek to harm her and anybody here watching.
	I pray for it to comfort everybody here to bless us all and protect us all from the forces of evil.
	And please protect us, uh, this show.
	This is your show, not the damn Madonna show.
	This is your show, Lord.
	Protect this platform and everything else, and, uh, to continue it going, to bring witness and testimony and, um, fellowship and everything else here.
	For your name.
	In your name, love you, amen.
	Alright, so, yeah, so, um, thank you for joining us here.
	And I don't know why my system's acting all choppy for.
	It's weird.
	It's weird, it's like every time we do shows like this, something happens.
	It's like the enemy doesn't want us to talk, you know?
	All right.
	So anything you want to disclose?
	Where people can find you?
	You still there?
	Uh oh, I think we lost him.
	You still there, Kerry?
	Huh.
	Oops, I think we knocked out though.
	You still there?
	Hang on a second, let me... Are you still there, Kerry?
	Hello.
	Yeah, I think that phone system doctor though.
	What the heck?
	Hello?
	That's weird, it muted the phone call.
	Alright guys, so I guess I'll be there on the show.
	So, thank you all.
	I don't know why my system is acting all quirky here.
	So, thank you all for joining us on the show.
	So, next week we got David Carrico coming on.
	Hang on one second guys, let me say bye to her.
	And if you want, we'll stay on for a few more minutes.
	Just got extra stuff I want to cover.
	My system cut out.
	So, let me see if this works.
	Hey, what's up brother?
	Hey Dan.
	Hey, how you doing?
	Shalom.
	Shalom brother.
	Brian Reese.
	Yeah, shalom everybody.
	Yeah, I was just calling in to see if the glitches was I know you were having trouble there.
	I was wanting to see if I was coming in clear.
	Yeah.
	Is it coming in clear now?
	Yep.
	It was weird because I don't know, was the Google Earth doing that?
	Yeah.
	My face was like freezing.
	I like that.
	Yeah.
	Am I on the air?
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	Yeah.
	Hello everybody.
	I will be back next week.
	I didn't mean to interrupt you Dan.
	I know that you was I'm talking about the broadcast for next week, but I'm looking forward to it.
	This was a great broadcast, and I thank you for having us carry on.
	I got the tail end of the testimony.
	I started listening around 10 o'clock.
	I'm sorry.
	I had some things with family and stuff, fellowship, and we'll travel them back, but it was a good broadcast.
	Brother Dan.
	Oh, thank you man and uh drive safe man.
	So, uh, hang on a second though.
	So I say, uh, uh, sister carrie Thank you for coming on and um, I know you're in the chat now So I don't know what happened the goo thing got cut off because when I got the phone it cut off the mic I don't some technical thing whatever but I think that's just the enemy trying to just um discourage us.
	So Oh yeah, absolutely.
	But overall I think everything went well.
	I think the phone line, Brother Tim called me and it was a little glitchy and stuff.
	you know so um last week we had the fire alarm go off too there's nobody else in the building the fire alarm goes off you know it's crazy so you something hot brian oh yeah absolutely um but overall i think everything went well i just uh i think the phone line brother tim called in it was uh a little glitchy and stuff but i think overall it was a good broadcast it always
	it seems like the the powers that be when we're trying to do a good broadcast it seems like things just go south sometimes, but Especially when you're quoting scripture and the stuff that y'all, this witchcraft topic tonight.
	It's a big topic, and I know that that's how the enemy is, so I understand.
	But hey, all is well.
	It was a good broadcast in my opinion.
	Oh, thank you.
	Yeah, I appreciate it, brother.
	Yeah, I'm sorry I left this week, but we will be back next week on the 27th for Brother David Carrico.
	Oh, it's going to be a good show.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah, so me and Brian here will be interviewing David Carrico next week.
	Trick or treat, the culture of fear.
	So it's always a hoot with David on.
	So it's going to be a good show.
	Absolutely.
	Well, yeah, thank you for the call, brother.
	Yeah, I didn't want to hold you up.
	I just wanted to see if I could help you with the glitches or whatever.
	Try to see if I could get it to come in clear.
	I think it was the Google doing that because now it's like fine.
	My face was freezing halfway in the broadcast.
	Oh, okay.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Well, hopefully everything will work out.
	It'll get lined out for next week.
	I know how that is.
	Me and you try to do many broadcasts together and it completely frees up on us.
	Yep.
	You too, brother.
	Drive safe, bro.
	Well, yeah.
	Tell the wife to drive safe.
	Oh, man.
	Shalom.
	Have a good night.
	Yeah, to tell the wife to drive her safe.
	Yeah, we got about another hour and a half.
	Oh, man.
	But, yeah.
	But, yeah.
	Shalom, Dan.
	Shalom.
	Have a good night.
	You too.
	All right, guys.
	So, before we go, actually, I want to do, I want to show some symbolism with the Bible house, I'm sorry.
	I got a lot of verses because I still have the slides from my other show I did on Witchcraft.
	So I just want to show what the Bible House has to say because Carrie was saying what's important is what the Bible House has to say about it.
	So we're going to show you some stuff, but before we go, Uh, I want to thank everybody for joining before you get to that.
	I'm sorry.
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	So, I got a lot of scriptures.
	So, what does the Bible say about witchcraft?
	So, let's find out.
	So, we go to where we mentioned familiar spirits earlier.
	So, if you remember the story with Saul.
	It was the account, not a story.
	I hate when I say stories, they're accounts, they're historical accounts.
	So, King Saul, he wanted to seek, summon Samuel the Prophet, because Samuel the Prophet had already died.
	And so, he wanted to summon him.
	So, here's the I'll shut up, I'll bug my tongue.
	But why, okay?
	You have a direct, especially the kings back then, you had direct communication with the father.
	Why would you go consult a familiar spirit with a witch or anything like that when you know Donwell more than anybody, all right, witchcraft is forbidden.
	But anyway, for whatever reason, King Saul decided, all right, I'm going to go, I want to talk to Samuel the prophet.
	Instead of talking to the father, you know, it just boggles my mind really does.
	Instead of talking to the father, he decided, so I'm going to go summon Samuel the prophet.
	So he goes and for Samuel 28, he goes and seeks the witch of Endor to summon up the spirit of Samuel.
	But it was come to find out it was a familiar spirit.
	So Saul died for his transgressions.
	Which he committed against the Lord, even against the word of the Lord, which he kept not, and also for asking counsel of one that had a familiar spirit to inquire.
	So that's 1 Chronicles 10, 13, and 14.
	So it wasn't actually Samuel that she summoned, there was a familiar spirit.
	Again, a demon masquerading as something, you know, like seances, right?
	They'll say, we're going to do a seance to get your Grandfather to come tell you information where you left the safe or whatever information you're looking for, right?
	So they'll do a seance and if the spirits are real, it's a familiar spirit.
	It's not your grandfather.
	But in this case here, it was Samuel.
	It wasn't Samuel.
	It was a demon masquerading as Samuel.
	But anyway, so God... Yeah, he was beyond ticked off.
	Especially the king that he appointed for God's Israel at the time.
	Why, you know, and that's why I'm lost for words now because why, why?
	When you got a direct communications, like saying, right, I got the boss's number direct.
	So why am I going to go to these morons out there when I get the boss's number?
	To seek counsel, you got God for counsel.
	Why would you do that?
	No wonder why God says, you know what, you're done.
	And he literally killed him and took his kingdom.
	Why would you—and like Solomon told, the same thing, it just boggles my mind.
	King Solomon, why he was granted great splendor and wonder, wisdom by the Lord.
	Then he decides to go down this path of darkness and It's like well, all right.
	Yeah, it's always bothers me man And you know the whole thing too when they left Egypt the boundaries of Egypt, right being enslaved Traveling across the desert, right?
	They got this pillar of fire at night to keep him warm They got this cloud over them to keep him shield from the Sun all these miracles okay going on and they're still bitching and moaning complaining about it and Turning away from God.
	So when they get to the Red Sea, you think this, right, when you see a freaking ocean split up, you get to go across and see all your enemies get crushed.
	That alone should have been the deal breaker right there.
	Right there.
	Bang.
	Okay.
	I'm trusting you, Lord.
	I don't care what happens after this.
	I am trusting you no matter what, right?
	You think that would be the deal breaker?
	Nope.
	So they got to Mount Sinai, and just because they got impatient because Moses was on the mountain too long, they started worshiping Bel and made a golden calf.
	It's like, wow!
	You know, what does God have to do?
	Seriously, and it applies to us.
	I'm not just criticizing them.
	It applies to us too.
	What does he have to do?
	Especially back then when they witnessed these powers.
	We don't witness that stuff today They witnessed that they lived to it and they still doubted him It just blows my mind guys.
	Sorry for the rant, but wow, and so King Saul Obviously King.
	Yeah Yeah, King Saul and the Witcher and them wanted to seek Samuel the Prophet and yeah, the Lord destroyed them because it was transgressions, which is a violation of the laws that he set in Deuteronomy 18, which we'll get to in a minute.
	And then Saul said unto his servants, Seek me a woman that has a familiar spirit, that I may go to her and acquire of her.
	And a servant said to him, Behold, there is a woman that has a familiar spirit at Endor, which is known as the Witch of Endor.
	So, 2 Kings 21, 6 says, And he made his son pass through the fire and observe times and use enchantments and dealt with familiar spirits and wizards.
	He brought much wickedness in the sight of the Lord to provoke him to anger.
	So why would you do this stuff when it just blows my mind really it does And the thing is these are people of God at the time These were just normal people, you know all over the street.
	This is a king that God appointed To run his kingdom.
	Well, yeah It's crazy, man.
	It really is.
	And, you know, we just discussed that here.
	You know, Saul seeking his familiar spirit, which really angered God.
	And you can't blame him.
	God's like, why would you do that?
	You could have just talked to me.
	Makes no sense, man.
	So Exodus 22, 18 says, you shall not suffer a witch to live.
	That's a time, like I said, even in this country here and in the UK, witchcraft was extremely forbidden.
	If you caught being a witch, they would kill you.
	Now granted, yeah, we understand in the Sandwich Trials, there are many innocent people that did die.
	Because they had something weird going on, whatever, had nothing to do with witchcraft, they would think they were a witch, whatever the case.
	And it was like, oh, if the person drowns...
	Then they're not a witch, but they're already dead.
	It made no sense, right?
	But yeah, regardless, but especially back in the kingdom of Israel back then, yeah, a witch was, they were not tolerated.
	At all.
	So Leviticus 19, 31, 34 says, Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards to be defiled by them.
	I am the Lord your God.
	You shall not rise up before the hoary head and honor the face of the old man.
	So I'm saying, don't seek after these things.
	Why you gotta seek these things when you got the Heavenly Father?
	Leviticus 27 says, A man, also a woman, that has a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death, and there shall be stoned them with stones, their blood shall be upon them.
	So that was the old ordinances.
	Now people don't understand there's a difference between ordinances, laws, statues, and commandments.
	That's where the dispensational churches come in.
	Oh, the Ten Commandments were abolished.
	No, they were not.
	Paul said the ordinances were nailed to the cross and bled out, not the commandments or the laws.
	That's why Jesus says, I'm not here to abolish these things.
	It's all backwards today, man.
	But yeah, and this is why some of these churches, you know, these people, I'm sorry, claim to be Christian witches, because they don't know their butts from their elbows, spiritually.
	So yeah, in this case, since today, you'll be put to death, and that's the second death.
	So right now if you're a witch obviously you're not gonna be put to death, right?
	But when your time comes, now it's concerning the spiritual death.
	The second death.
	So that's hell.
	Then after judgment you go into the lake of fire.
	Second Chronicles 33 6 says and he caused his children to pass through the fire and what this means is because passing through the fire at the valley of the son of Hinnom now what that means is uh the old malik statues they had he had a set of hands the statue and they would light a big fire under the set of hands so this the stone where it would be so hot that anything you put it would automatically burst the flames and melt and it's disgusting so
	What these people would do is they would take the newborns and or children and put them right into the hands of the malak that would pass it through the fire.
	And it's a sacrifice, a child sacrifice.
	And after these rituals, they would have giant orgies and all that to impregnate people for the next coming ritual.
	It's disgusting stuff.
	But yeah, and this is what the Bible talked about, warned about.
	And again, and he caused his children to pass through the fire in the Valley of the Sun of Hinnon.
	Also, he observed times and used enchantments and used witchcraft and dealt with familiar spirit and with the wizards.
	He wrought much evil in the sight of the Lord and to provoked him to anger.
	So you see all these people that doing the stuff and God's provoking the Lord to anger.
	And Deuteronomy 18, and this applies to today too, now understand this, right?
	This here, alright, at the time was talking about the Kingdom of Israel.
	At the Kingdom of Israel, you were welcome, if you lived in another country, you were welcome to come into Israel, to become part of Israel, you were welcome to that.
	But, it was a strict rule, you had to leave out the abominations, because all those other nations had tons of abominations.
	The rule was to leave those abominations out of this country.
	Now, how it applies today, now today it's called spiritual Israel, being part of God's Israel, right?
	So you can't bring these abominations into the kingdom of God and expect to get to heaven.
	It doesn't work that way.
	So, this is both applying to then and now.
	So, it says, when you come into the land which God has given you, you shall not learn to do the after the abominations of those nations.
	Now, it doesn't say sin.
	It says abomination.
	Abomination is worse, a higher level of sin.
	So there shall not be found among you anyone that makes his son or daughter go through the fire, that's child sacrifice, or uses divination, that's Ouija boards, crystals, the whole nine yards, or observer of times, you know, these so-called people with astrology and everything else, or an enchanter or a witch.
	Or a charmer, or a castle to a familiar spirit, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
	For all you do to these things is an abomination to the Lord.
	It's not sin, abomination.
	That's a- you don't get any worse than that.
	It's an abomination to the Lord because of these things, these abominations, the Lord will drive you out from before you.
	So again back then it was you they would drive you out literally out of the out of Israel now today in a spiritual Israel Yeah, yeah, you are not even getting to the gates basically if you do the stuff Hint for those people out there who call themselves Christian witches.
	Yeah.
	So, Galatians 5, 19 and 21.
	And now the works of the flesh are manifest.
	Which are these?
	Adultery, fornication, uncleanliness, Leviticus.
	Adultery.
	I can never say that right.
	Leviticus.
	Sorry.
	Huh?
	Leviticus.
	No.
	It's not the book there.
	But, um, idolatry, witchcraft.
	Yeah, witchcraft right there.
	Hatred, variants of immolations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envians, murders, drunkenness, revealance, such as, like, of the witch I tell you before, as I didn't pass, as I told you, that which do these things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
	So this is the New Testament.
	So how many, how many commandments do we see in there?
	Adultery is the 7th commandment, right?
	Yeah.
	So... What else do we have?
	Let me see.
	Idolatry, that's the 2nd commandment.
	And... stress, sedition, everything, murders, that's the 6th commandment.
	Yeah, so you got 3 to 4 commandments in there, okay?
	And I know a few dispensationalists out there that say, oh, the commandments are abolished.
	Bruh!
	Now, who's he talking to?
	There's four commandments in there that... Yeah, these people drive me crazy when they say that.
	But regardless, it's witchcraft.
	That's the highlight today of the show.
	So, if you practice witchcraft, you are not getting into the kingdom of God.
	Unless you repent.
	Yeah, you gotta repent.
	That means to turn away.
	Literally, to turn away.
	Disembowel yourself from that.
	That's what that means.
	So 1 Timothy 4.1 says, Now the spirits speak expressly that in a lot of times, which is the end times here, some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits in doctrines of devils.
	What is doctrines of devils?
	Anything but.
	Yeah.
	Any book that tells you to seek after other gods or false prophets or anything like that, Yeah, that's a doctrine of devils.
	That's the Quran, the Book of Mormons, Watchtower, the Catechism, I can go down and write down a list.
	The Mahi-Gagi, I can't pronounce, I write the Hindu version, the Bible, whatever the case, all those doctrines, those doctrines are devils.
	Plain and simple.
	Witchcraft, the Book of the Dead, the Satanic Bible, the Necronomicon, even though it's science fiction, but people still revere it as some kind of a doctrine.
	But yeah, don't give heed to these seducing spirits and their doctrines.
	Sound doctrines are supposed to go by.
	Revelation 21.8 says, "...but the fearful, and the unbelieving, and the abominable, and the murderers, and the whoremongers, and the sorcerers, and the idolaters, and the liars, shall have their part in the lake of fire, fire and brimstone, which is the second death." And that's what he was talking about in Deuteronomy.
	Back then you got killed, but now today you, yeah, you die spiritually.
	In other words, when you do die, yeah, you're going to hell.
	And again, look, this is Jesus giving the revelation to John, right?
	On Patmos.
	So, how many commandments are we seeing here?
	Again, murder, the sixth commandment, You know, adultery is the seventh one.
	Abominable murderers, whoremongers, it's the same thing.
	So you see a couple of commandments in there as well, so I just wanted to point that out too.
	But yeah, for without are dogs, and sorcerers, and fornicators, and murderers, and adulterers, and whoever loves and makes a lie.
	Revelation 22:15 So you've just seen these descriptions about witchcraft right?
	And there's many more, but if you're involved in these things, this is either not directly witchcraft, but some of these things, it's just like, it's a conduit to witchcraft.
	It's an opening way.
	Okay.
	And I'm not saying if you're out there stretching, doing yoga and all that, which I highly condemn, but it is a gateway to witchcraft.
	You know, a few out there with the horoscopes.
	Oh, I gotta look at my future.
	This is the most dumbest thing I've ever heard.
	Even when I was little, I didn't understand any of it.
	But, I always found how stupid that is.
	Because how many people in the world that, you know, I was born on June 26th.
	So, they would call me a Cancer.
	I don't have any of those signs, but they would call me a Cancer.
	So, you know, the star constellation Cancer.
	So, you got millions of people.
	Millions of people in the world that were born in that time frame.
	So, you mean to tell me that one astrology thing whatever is going to speak for millions of people that were born in that area so dumb really is and that's how what occultic astrology is guys is the biblical of the bible teachers in genesis right to use the stars for seasons and things to come prophecies and all that stuff right but what the occult do is that's called biblical cosmology
	the cult take their twisted version called occultic astrology and use it for perverted and disgusting evil things so it's a mirror image of what god tells us to do but they take it to a whole new level which is evil horoscopes yoga chakras uh which is um new age stuff the kundalini we're going to do a show on that soon again uh the kundalini which is uh used big time and uh you see these people like benny him and all that
	and uh when he waves his hand half the congregation goes flying that's not the holy spirit The Holy Spirit doesn't make you balk like dogs.
	The Holy Spirit doesn't make you laugh hysterically.
	The Holy Spirit doesn't make you kvoltz like you just gotta, um, wire it up with some, uh, 50,000 volts of electricity.
	And certainly the Holy Spirit's not gonna make a pastor wave his hand and the whole congregation goes flying.
	That doesn't work that way.
	That's not the Holy Spirit.
	That's the Kundalini Spirit.
	You see this all the time down in the southern, some of the southern churches.
	Oh, you're healed!
	And half the time it's all fixed in the first place.
	It's the money-making scheme.
	And I'm not saying God can't heal people because he does.
	But these people take it to a whole new level.
	Hypnotism, acupuncture, tarot cards, astrology, Ouija boards, sacred greetings, numerology, rosary beads.
	Yes, rosary beads.
	Because you don't pray to Mary, first of all.
	God bless Mary.
	She's a blessed mother.
	Not disrespecting her, but you don't pray to Mary.
	You pray to Jesus.
	You don't need an intercessor.
	You only got Jesus.
	That's it.
	Jesus is the only intercessor.
	That's it.
	Not Mary.
	There's no way in the Bible even remotely says to even pray to Mary.
	Palm reading, fortune cookies, superstition, dreamcatchers.
	I don't know what that feng shui is, but reincarnation, spirit guides, Halloween.
	Yeah, all that's a sign of witchcraft. - Feng shui is when you're constantly ripping your burdens into your mind and it's like a chock ball lightning or something like that. - Oh, Feng shui?
	Oh, so when you move your... My brother's telling me... What the heck?
	What the heck?
	Oh, Jason was saying the feng shui, I can pronounce that, but it's feng shui.
	It's, uh, they move their furniture around in a house to align with chakras or something.
	It's like, yeah.
	Would you say it's an Asian thing?
	Oh.
	I know a lot of Spanish people put boots in the ceiling.
	Remember?
	Yeah Why?
	Yeah, put a boot in the ceiling and they do these all these superstitious things stupid stitches They think it keeps away Holy Spirit.
	I mean, um, it keeps away our evil spirits.
	How do you use evil to keep evil away?
	You guys what you're doing is like you're replacing a smaller demon with a bigger demon.
	That's all you're doing And it's all witchcraft.
	It's different forms of it.
	And people don't even understand what they're doing.
	Especially in yoga and all that.
	You're doing these certain poses to these Hindu gods.
	And people go, it's just innocent stretching.
	No, it's not.
	Yeah, I mean, it's all literally witchcraft if you put it together.
	So, trust the plan.
	The only plan that's the Bible, guys.
	And our plan's simple, so...
	So guys, yeah, thank you for joining us here we're gonna cut loose here so we'll see you next Friday actually Wednesday we got a Breaking new world order show.
	It's gonna be awesome.
	So we got you know, we talk about the news and everything that's going on and all that stuff and But we all the stuff going on Israel.
	So I want to point out guys.
	Listen, right?
	It's very important to understand us What the media is doing, alright?
	They are using fear-mongering, and they're using emotions.
	No matter what you see or hear on TV, guys, first of all, don't believe everything.
	Because, a lot of it, they're saying the baby's being headed, which possibly, uh, uh, fake.
	I don't know.
	Nobody's seen pictures with nothing or in the hospital being blown up.
	So on both sides of playing propaganda So what the media does and this is another form of witchcraft.
	Oh, they use emotions Okay Psychological warfare in you so you emotionally get involved now.
	Here's a issue, right?
	Everybody's like, oh we gotta go blow up Palestine then the Palestinians like we're gonna go after Israel.
	Oh They want you to get involved because out of war, they want everybody to encourage and support war.
	Because out of the war comes this fake world peace.
	Peace treaties are going to be done, and everybody and their mothers are going to be like, this is a beautiful thing.
	For the first time ever, we got the Palestinians and Israel getting along together, and Muslims and Christians getting along together, all that stuff.
	But it's fake.
	You're playing right into the hands of the Antichrist.
	And remember Jesus said, what'd he say?
	I'm not, I didn't, I'm not here to bring peace.
	I'm here to bring a sword.
	So when the real Messiah comes, not this fake Messiah coming out of this third temple, the real Messiah comes, he's come with a sword.
	He's not coming back to make peace or nothing like that.
	He's coming back to kick some butt, plain and simple.
	So, understand that.
	Don't get wrapped up in emotions, guys.
	Don't say, I support Israel, I support whatever.
	No, you support God's Israel.
	That's us, the believers of Jesus, who are grafted in God's spiritual Israel.
	Don't get wrapped up emotionally into the stuff.
	Half the stuff's a lie on both sides both sides are playing the game of propaganda Because they everybody they want you to support this war because they have to have a war to bring them forth a peace deal They can't just put a peace deal and we mean nothing The war has to happen.
	It's part of prophecy, too It has to happen and they want you to get emotionally involved with this that's that you know how they beat you and Alright guys, so love you all.
	God bless.
	Shalom.
	And again, if you want to support the broadcast, we got these donation pages to choose from.
	And also the best thing you could do for us is pray for us.
	That's better than anything.
	Let's pray for this broadcast and everything else.
	And I'm sorry if the broadcast is a little glitchy.
	I don't know what's going on tonight.
	So love you all.
	God bless.
	Shalom.

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