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And welcome everybody to the Denver Dining Show on Spiritual Warfare Fridays.
So I want to welcome everybody in the chat and thank you Tim, Valerie, and Uncle Obvious for moderating the chat room and everything else for those who are watching on YouTube and also those watching on other platforms later on.
So tonight the title of our broadcast is Pre-Tourism, the 70 AD return of Christ's deception debunked and we're gonna talk about this.
We got a guest coming up in a minute here and for us before you get to him, let me get to my Slides here.
We want to thank ShakenWakeRadio.com for carrying the show on that network as well, and also BeForgedNews.com.
Thank you guys so much.
And also this is our guest coming up here, Samuel M. Frost.
He's an author of one of many books called Why I Left Full Preacherism.
So he's going to be joining us, but before we get to him, I just want to start off the show with this verse here.
1 Timothy chapter 4 verses 1 and 2.
It says, Now the Spirit speaketh expressionally, that in a lot of times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils, speaking lies and hypocrisy, having their conscience seared with the hot iron.
So, um, and we got a lot to talk about tonight.
And, uh, so, uh, Sam's going to give us about an hour.
He said he's got about an hour to give us.
And, uh, then we'll, after Sam gets off, I got a bunch of scripture I want to go through as well and everything else.
Then we'll take your phone calls and questions or comments, whatever the case.
So let's get to our guests.
And I want to welcome here.
He's an author, Samuel Frost.
Ross, how you doing, brother?
I'm good.
Thanks for having me on here.
Absolutely, and thanks for being up this late to do this.
*laughs* Oops, let me unmute you.
Yeah, so Samuel Frosty is the author and it's vigil.blog.
That's his website.
The link is in the description.
So first of all, you want to describe yourself.
You're an author, obviously, and, you know, describe some of the books you wrote and written.
I'm sorry.
And also you said you're an ex-preacherism.
And so is it called a preacherist?
Is that the right word for that?
If you want to, you know, Tomato, tomato.
You know, praetorism, it's just the word, Latin praetor means past, and so it's a view that's been around for quite some time.
In academic circles, it's understood, you know, that Jerusalem, the war there from 66 to 70, and then further 135, 138 AD, war of the Romans with the Jews until their final expulsion in 138.
Um, so a lot of most, you know, biblical scholars understand that in like Matthew 24, that Jesus is referencing, you know, that fall that happened just within the lifetime of the original hearers.
But a view has come on down the pike called hyper-preterism or full-preterism that believes that every, every single prophecy that's in the scriptures is all fulfilled in 70 A.D.
That includes end of the age, resurrection of the dead, the whole nine yards, the whole kit and caboodle.
Yeah.
And I was involved in that for several years as one of the main speakers, leaders, spoke at over 20 conferences with all of the major teachers.
I was one of them, published three books under that movement and began to see some serious problems with it that We're not being answered.
And I'm one that keeps pushing the envelope.
So eventually saw my way out of it, you know, by the grace of God.
And now I am very critical, critical of it because of what it is that it purports.
It goes under this, you know, innocence that it's a Bible study and all of the rest of it.
But in the end, when you look at it and you see what damage that it does to the gospel, Then I condemn it as a heresy.
So, I tell people I was a former heretic.
If you have a problem with that.
Yeah, I was a former Catholic, so I hear.
Yeah, yeah.
So, I was asked to write a book by Gary DeMar and American Vision and so wrote Why I Left Full Preterism and that's done pretty good, pretty well.
Yeah, it's up on your website, yeah.
Yeah, vigil.blog.
I write a lot and then I'm on, you and I were talking before the show, following Facebook since, you know, about a year after they came on board and then started seeing what they were.
And so I love all this YouTube and guys like you can get on there and do shows like this.
It's a, this is a, that's what it's all about.
Yeah.
Get the information.
Yeah.
I mean, they can't shut everything down.
No, even though they shut my last channel down here, but it's a tough pill to swallow.
That's like a badge of honor getting shut down.
I've not been shut down yet.
Wait a minute.
Well, they kept giving me strikes.
Here's what they did.
They, um, in other words, just say, uh, today, right?
We talked about space, right?
And just say tomorrow, next week, they made a rule.
You can't talk about space.
Now, instead of just deleting the video, because at the time when you said it, it wasn't against the rules.
They'll hit you with a community guideline strike that you broke the rules, even though you did it before it became a rule.
You know what I mean?
So there's no grandfathering in, they're going to hit you.
And most of the strikes I got were videos from eight, nine, 10 years ago, which ridiculous.
Right.
It.
You know, I mean, the Internet has.
Because I, you know, in the Bible College, I lived on campus for four years and I would hang out at the library, but this is 1985 to 1989.
This is before any, you know, Internet or anything like that.
So the library was the place where you would go to find out anything.
Yeah.
I mean, I still hang out at our library here and then.
But now with the internet, which I loved it, you know, as a scholar, I, I thought this is, this is fantastic, you know, because you can just go to find out all kinds of information.
And I think that many of the higher ups have caught wind of this and like, Oh no, you know, we've let a genie out of the bottle here.
And I've been calling it that for a couple of decades, you know, just, this is the genie out of the bottle because it allows for this freedom of expression of information, which You know, you study American history, this has been going on for, it just went by way of books and newspapers.
Yeah.
And now it's by way of internet.
You know, people, you know, fake news, that's nothing new.
There are really bad books written in the 17th, 18th, 19th century, and they're really bad books.
A lot of misinformation.
Yeah, Germany had that in the 1700s.
When the Illuminati was around, the Bavarian version, they had the thing called the German Union.
What they did was they hired authors, journalists, and all that kind of stuff.
That's where the media was back then.
And they would write misinformation, propaganda, and everything else.
Then it worked its way Eventually to you know, Joseph Goebbels and Nazi Germany to Operation Mockingbird here in America to the CIA with the mainstream media.
And yeah, like you said, it's always been a thing how they push propaganda and misinformation.
Well, you could you you didn't even have a telephone.
So, you know, I'm presenting a lecture here on the history of of Indiana and its founding.
And, you know, like Lincoln's assassination and stuff like that.
People didn't know that for weeks.
Yeah.
You know, the news had to travel out through these circuit riders and the postmasters and all these guys have to disseminate the information.
But that was so.
And then you couldn't fact check, you know, what are the leaders told you?
That was what was.
How was a guy on the frontier building a cabin and, you know, raising a family on a farm?
How is he supposed to know anything other than what these guys coming from the east?
I'm educated.
True that.
We had no access to, you know, and then, I mean, you did have Andrew Carnegie.
I don't know how you think about Andrew Carnegie, but Carnegie went around buying up land and all starting these libraries.
He built up quite a few of them here in Indiana.
And so the library became the, you know, the common for the public consumption where he could go in and read and And so the internet is just kind of piggyback on that.
But we've always wanted information.
And I always thought a good dose of healthy skepticism.
You know, you know, I don't want to bring this subject up of what's going on today.
Yeah.
This is a great example of what what am I?
I'm not there.
So I don't empirically know.
What is going on?
I'm not there.
Yeah.
But I've heard from people that are there, and I hear all kinds of... So, you know, what am I to believe?
You know, I know what documents that I have, you know, .gov documents, and I can go, those are legitimate, I guess, you know, so I'm piecing together information.
But I don't watch much of the media on CNN or Fox.
Yeah, I don't blame you.
That's what we try to do on my news show.
I try to decipher, I mean, get news from all sources, but also pick through the truth.
And they're sitting there denying bio labs.
And it's like, what are you talking about?
We knew about these years ago.
This was public information.
They bragged about them and having biolabs in 30 countries and at first it was a cover to say we made these biolabs in Ukraine to stop the Russians from their biological warfare as a cover.
Now that, you know, the information got released now all of a sudden, you know, takes it off the Department of Defense's website, completely denying everything.
Then if you talk about it, you know, you're a Russian conspirator, you know what I mean?
Well, I don't know how if they're there on one hand and then they're not there and then they're kind of say that the Russians are going to use that as well.
Then if we're going to use it, is it there or is it not there?
Yeah.
You can't have, you know, on one hand, you hear that the Russians are falling apart and their military is completely falling apart and everyone's abandoning it.
And then you'll flip on another channel and the Russians are destroying and constantly bombing and constantly destroying.
And we'll wait.
Wait, are they falling apart?
And I hate all of it that's going on there.
It's the people like me and you, the innocent people that are not caught up in the politics on the higher ups.
Those people are just going through what they're going through and it's horrible.
But this could have been prevented as far as I'm concerned.
All of this could have been prevented.
Absolutely.
That's what I'm most upset about is that this didn't have to happen.
No, absolutely.
You're right.
And that's what everybody should agree on.
You know what I mean?
Regardless of whatever you believe about labs or whatever.
I don't know.
I don't know what's going on.
Yeah.
And then, you know, this whole proxy war and everything else.
We know that, you know, when it gets to the spiritual routes here, we know where this is going.
You know what I mean?
Their goal is to push a new world order.
They're going to use war to do it.
They're going to use famine.
They're going to use all kinds of propaganda and everything else to make you submit and beg for a new world order.
You know what I mean?
Which we know it's the end times Kingdom of Satan Satan's short temporary reign Speaking of that man This pre-tourism man Do you want to describe the history Where did this come from And I was doing some research here And it shows that this was introduced By a Jesuit What's his name Vistagio Yeah Some people bring it to him
If you go back further to Eusebius, you know, the first writer, ecclesiastical history.
You know, he's this again, you can go to to the earliest writers, Irenaeus and Justin Martyr, and they all mentioned 70 A.D.
and the destruction of the Jerusalem temple and Rome's overtaking of And renaming it Palestine, Palestinia, which is that comes from the Philistines.
That's a Latinized version of the Philistines.
And so they were wondering, you know, what are we going to call it now that it's no longer Judea?
And so the emperor said, well, we'll call it Palestinia.
You know, there are no Palestinians.
There was always Palestine.
There's no Palestinians.
There's that was that came from anyway.
So, you know, we know about the destruction and we know that Paul would have known about this.
Certainly the apostles knew about it.
Jesus spoke about Jerusalem being surrounded by armies and an abomination of desolation and all that would be set up there.
And all of that happened.
The problem is, is that they want to with you have full preterists that put everything in 70 AD.
And that's a rather recent view.
That didn't come down the pike until around the very late 19th century and then full-blown in the 1970s with a guy named Max King.
Max King?
Where even the resurrection of the dead is 70 AD.
So they have this spiritual resurrection going on.
It's not a bodily resurrection.
It's a spiritual resurrection.
And there is no end of the world.
The world as we know it will never end.
Yeah.
If you can wrap your mind around that.
Yeah.
Cause he just makes everything new and it continues.
Yeah.
And there's some stuff running around saying we're in the new heavens and new earth now.
And it's just, you, you can see where like Mormonism or something else, you really have to buy into the system to have a perception that looks around the world.
And at the same time being able to say we're in the new heavens and new earth.
So it's, it's purely a cognitive, worldview of this full preterism is.
And it piggybacks on the legitimate, you know, biblical scholarly aspects of the fall of Jerusalem and what that plays in our interpreting of passages like Matthew 24 and other places where clearly it's referenced.
The question is, to what degree is it referenced?
Yeah, this is one of the biggest verses they try to defend themselves on.
Matthew 24, verse 34 says, Truly I say to you, this generation shall not pass till these things be fulfilled.
But when you read this in its context, this is Jesus telling the disciples the signs that will happen before he returns.
And he says, this generation will not pass until all these things be fulfilled.
Now he's talking about a future generation.
Because if he was talking about the generation of disciples, he would have said, your generation ain't gonna pass until these things be fulfilled.
But the generation he's talking about, the future generation, says this generation shall not pass until all these things be fulfilled.
So this is a verse that they, this is one of the heavily used verses they use to defend the faith.
I got a friend of mine, Richard Garganta, he's on my Facebook.
He's got a cable access show.
He does preaches preacherism there And so this is one of the main verses that they use to defend themselves And but the thing is if you read in this context, which I could do that later We're gonna read the whole chapter of Matthew 24 to go over all the prophecies and yeah the stuff that he lays out before his return and also second Thessalonians Daniel and everything else and
And yeah, it's like unless I I miss something man But I don't remember even any historian talking about when all the stars and heaven fell the Sun and moon Stopped giving off its light, you know, I mean things like that happening.
I don't ever recall that ever happening But anyway, that's what they claim, you know, like you said the full pre-trial so all this stuff happened in you know before 70 AD so Then Jesus returned and everything stopped, you know, whatever the case, but why are we still here?
Why is it still evil on the planet?
Why is our anti-christ system being set up right now as we speak?
You know, I mean, these are questions that none of these people could ever answer me.
And I am, you know, I came at this with an open mind.
So I do answer these questions.
You know, they get mad at you.
They insult you.
I'm like, I'm just asking these questions.
These are the prophecies that were laid out before his return.
You know what I mean?
And there's so many more.
The desolation of Damascus.
Damascus is still there.
You know what I mean?
The Obamacian desolation.
All these little things are drying up the river Euphrates.
It's starting to dry up.
Now, I got an article talking about how it's almost halfway dried up.
And the Tigris River as well.
And all these things started happening rapidly in the 19th and 20th century.
You know what I mean?
So these things didn't happen, obviously, because these would have been major historical events.
And no, I mean, no historians have recorded such things ever happening.
You know what I mean?
And so these are the questions I come at these people with.
And of course, you don't get no answers.
You know what I mean?
And then you get yelled at and whatever else.
Yeah.
I mean, they they try to get around that.
And I certainly tried to.
Using symbolic language, and so the falling of the stars and the moon turning to blood, and they say, you know, believe the moon is literally going to turn to actual, you know, AB negative blood or something like that.
So they'll use that kind of absurdity to bring you back into this as a symbolic, but it's not, that's not really how language works.
Language is usually when using metaphors or moon turning to blood or stars falling There's a literal aspect that's there without there also pressing it so hard in terms of the literal.
We know that a star is not going to fall.
Before a star even gets here, the Earth would explode.
So the idea of stars hitting the Earth, you know, obviously you can't press that literally.
But nonetheless, to go on the other extreme and take it purely as nothing but a symbolic reference, That's the other extreme.
And like my dad always told me, truth is somewhere in the middle.
And so what Jesus is talking about there is, again, in the period of that time, what we call Second Temple Judaism, that's the Second Temple there, the Herodian Temple.
In that period of time, so you got 300 B.C.
to the first century A.D., and so that's roughly that period of time that we call First or Second Temple Judaism.
And in that period, the literature understood the Jews very clearly believed in an end of the world and an ushering in of Messiah and a God making all things right.
And Jesus says this, Matthew 13, he says it.
The end of the age when all wickedness and all that calls to stumble shall be removed.
So that that's typical Judaism.
Paul certainly endorsed it.
And then the idea of resurrection of the dead is a bodily resurrection of the dead.
That's very clearly documented in Second Temple Judaism.
So what the preterist has to do to come back and say, well, resurrection happened in 70 A.D.
is they have to spiritualize everything and symbolize everything and make everything a metaphor.
Because like you said, obviously, literally these things didn't take place.
So how do you get around that?
Well, they get around it through symbolic language.
And I ask one of them myself, my own studies, that Jesus, for example, in Matthew 24, he's quoting Joel 2 and Isaiah 13.
it seems like he's linking because they use that kind of language of the stars falling and and all of that for babylon for the destruction of babylon now if you look at the when babylon was taken by cyrus um it was uh they didn't destroy the city they hardly at all uh the The city was there when Persia fell to Alexander.
Alexander actually housed himself in Babylonia for quite some time.
But yet, according to the prophets, if you read Jeremiah, Babylon was going to be just utterly decimated and destroyed.
by the Medes and the Persians.
And then, of course, that did not happen.
So what's going on here?
Well, what's going on here is that God is making these threats of total annihilation and destruction.
And then he shows grace.
He pulls back.
We see this often.
The best example of it is Jonah, who's told Nineveh is going to be destroyed in 40 days.
And, of course, Nineveh is not destroyed.
In 40 days, and this angers Jonah because he wants to see these Ninevites destroyed.
But yet God shows mercy.
In fact, Jonah says this, the reason why I didn't go there is because you're a God of long suffering and mercy.
And that's why I didn't go, because I know if they repented, you weren't going to destroy them.
So that's an element that's involved when we read biblical prophecy, is that these Threats are issued, but God, the time is known to him when when the full aspect of the threat is going to come to pass.
And so if Jesus is alluding to Isaiah 13, then Isaiah 13, when he spoke, it didn't happen.
And Jesus is saying this is to fulfill this is what the end will look like.
It'll be a this deconstructing kind of of creation.
And.
We have to allow for a lot of mystery and we have to allow for a lot of ambiguity there because we don't know.
That's the whole, see, that's the whole point.
That's the challenge of it.
I'm to obey God in this life and in my family and in my job and surroundings and things that I do, I am to obey God and stay faithful to God.
Yeah, but what about wars and rumors of wars?
Don't be anxious about that stuff.
Well, maybe this is the, well, maybe it is, but again, What does that have to do with you obeying God?
It has nothing to do with it.
So keep focused.
And I think that that's what Paul and the apostles and they all, it's like, get your attention off of this stuff.
You know, Satan wants to get your attention on calendars and clocks and times and dates and all this bunch of other stuff.
And then, you know, you get so focused on that, you're losing the focus of walking silently before the Lord and revering him.
And loving your neighbor.
Yeah, that's been a big issue right now.
We're seeing a huge divide in people, places like, arguing about calendars, arguing about moon settings, arguing about how to pronounce his name, and if you don't say it right, he's not going to hear you.
All kinds of crazy stuff, the Hebrew Roots movement and all that, and crazy stuff going on, man.
And it's so much confliction out there, and it causes so much divide.
It's crazy.
Yes, and a lot of it is unnecessary.
Yeah.
And I empathize with those.
People say, well, don't you believe like in the last days?
Yeah.
The last days was marked by the ascension and exaltation of Jesus Christ, who received all power and glory at the father's right hand, where he said he was going to the right hand of the father.
To receive all glory, power, honor and might and to rule over the nations, which currently he's doing, if you read Psalm 2, Psalm 110 at the right hand of the father and the nations are his inheritance.
He's currently Ruling, and we have this vision of Jesus as the Santa Claus, this big, sloppy, hippie, tree-hugging kind of person, and Jesus is pictured in the Psalms as a ruler with a rod of iron smashing the nations.
Jesus actually says this in Matthew 10, I did not come to bring peace, I came to bring a sword.
Now, when have you last heard that preached on a Sunday morning?
Sure.
And I, you know, it's, it's, you know, this is a, this is a God that rules the nations and he always has ruled the nations to the end of his own, his own purpose and glory, which ends in this new heavens and new earth, which we are not in.
You have to be deceived to believe that this is the new heavens and the new earth.
You have to be completely deceived.
And I, I certainly was.
I came out of it in 2010.
I was heavily involved in it from 2002, 2001 to 2010.
And by the time of 2010, I was raising a lot of questions because I saw in throughout the United States, all these conferences I was going to speak at.
I began to watch this implosion among this group called Full Preterists.
And I started watching this infighting take place Among this group of people, because they're not huge, you know, we're talking maybe 10, 20, 30,000.
So they started like devouring each other inside the group itself.
And this was a small group that was trying to get up off the ground and become recognized as a legitimate evangelical Christian, you know, movement or way to read the Bible.
Of course, it goes against everything of church history.
All the creeds and confessions and everything.
We've always looked forward to the second coming of Christ, resurrection of the dead and the last day.
Now, how you work that out, you know, you've got dispensationalism and premillennialism, amillennialism, postmillennialism, pre-trib rapture, post-trib rapture.
You got all this stuff going on.
That's an in-house debate.
You know, we have these family squabbles, but we all agree that the world will end Christ will return, the dead will be raised and we will be in the new heavens and new earth.
And those, those things are all denied by the full preterist.
And that's where you basically have just single-handedly destroyed Christianity.
There's not much left after that, like you raised immediately.
You know, what do we do now?
You know, if the world never ends and we're here, what are we supposed to, you know, what if evil is always going to be here?
And they talk about the Millennium Kingdom too, which is a thousand years, so if you take 70 AD plus a thousand, that's 1070, you know?
So if they even counted that in, we're well past the Millennium Kingdom, and the scripture says after all this stuff, evil's gonna be banished forever, thrown in the lake of fire, there'll be no more evil, death, nothing like that.
Why are people still dying?
Why is there still wars going on?
Why do we have an anti-Christ system right now setting up a new world order?
Why do we have an anti-Christ system right now trying to Totally destroy anything to do with God.
They spend money out, you know, billions of dollars to try to distort the Word of God.
You have all these false religions and cults out there.
Why is this all here?
If... Alright, which tells me, if preacherism is right, they're calling the Bible a liar.
Because all this is... Of course, we all would love to be in that kingdom.
Absolutely.
But, you know what I mean?
The Bible says all this stuff's gonna be put to end.
Plain and simple.
No more.
It's gonna be forgotten about.
Why is it still here?
Well, I don't know if you're able to bring up scripture verses, but if you could bring up the chapter Psalm 2, that's probably the most quoted psalm for one of them, Psalm 110, and then you have Psalm 2.
Psalm 2 is the most quoted psalm in the scriptures, and it's quoted several times in the book of Revelation, actually, and alluded to several times, and in that psalm, You, yeah.
Well, I mean, why do the nations rage?
Here's the, this is the question, you know, what are we seeing today?
Why do the nations rage?
Why do the people, they plot in vain?
And here's the answer.
The kings of the earth stood up, the princes gathered together against the Lord and Antichrist.
There it is.
And against his Messiah, against his Christ.
Let us break their bonds asunder.
Let us cast away their yoke.
And I love the next verse.
He that dwells in the heavens laughs.
And it's like, this is where I receive comfort in the Holy Spirit with everything going on right now.
That I know that the Lord in heaven is these plans of one world order and our nation thinks we're going to set up all the, and we're going to make everything right.
And everyone's going to have health care.
No one's going to be sick anymore.
And no one's going, and they're making all these promises that only belong to God.
And that's the Antichrist aspect of it.
Yeah.
It's what Rush Dooney called the messianic state.
It's Messiah from womb to tomb.
The state will take care of you if you just do what the state tells you to do.
And that's been going on, you know, Dan, that's been going on since Psalm 2.
In fact, if you go back further, that's been going on since the Tower of Babel.
That's what's in the heart of man that's against God, is that he wants his own world and he doesn't want God to be any part of it.
He wants to be God himself.
And so we see this again and again and again and again throughout history so that Psalm 2 becomes kind of a template to which we can interpret Stalin and Pol Pot and Adolf Hitler and Saddam Hussein.
Any of these emperors and dictators and Caesars and rulers, what is it that they're after?
What are they doing?
Well, to bring about a better world.
All of them say this.
If you just go along with our pogrom, we'll make everything better.
And of course, it never works out.
Well, it never will work out, according to Psalm 2, that your plot, your plans, your Your policies, your legislation is all doomed to failure.
That's what I say all the time, man.
It's like every time in history, right, when man thought he knew better than God, i.e.
this stuff here, it's led to nothing but death and destruction.
Well, we'll keep you safe.
Give us your weapons.
We'll keep you safe.
We've seen how that worked out in the 1900s.
Almost 700 million people died by the hands of their own governments and whatnot.
So we'll keep you safe.
We'll keep you fed.
We'll give you free health care.
Yeah, how's that all worked out before?
It hasn't.
Right.
And you see this, and you can't say that they're not noble attempts.
Woodrow Wilson certainly had noble attempts, you know, League of Nations and what he was, and that sounds all great.
It's like, yeah, all the nations getting together.
That sounds wonderful.
Certainly Hitler, if you read deep into what he's doing, he's pro-German nationalist, wanting the best for his people.
He's wanting all of these things.
The greatest Berlin to be the center of the greatest capital of the world so that everybody is working and everyone's making money and prosperous and all of this.
It never works.
And people buy into this again and again and again.
They think that the government's going, but they forget that God is running the government.
God runs these governments.
They're never going to work.
And so if you put your trust in man and put your trust in politics, you're going to be disappointed every single time.
Edmund Burke, one of the many quoted this, for those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it.
Yes, right.
That's that.
That's it in a nutshell.
And I love I'm sure you do.
I have a whole sections in my library on American history and and, you know, the the impact the Bible played on America.
So I love our country and all of this.
But what I've recently in the last couple of years is is distinguishing between the country that I love, and I'm very thankful for being born into, and I see many of the good things that we have done, and I don't want to minimize any of that.
But at the same time, it is a government, and it is doomed to failure.
And I have to balance those two things, and you might speak on that, because it's not easy to do.
On the other hand, I don't want to speak bad about our country, and yet on the other hand, I do speak bad about our country, It does horrible things.
Absolutely.
I mean, like, for example, too, what you talk about, if you go back to Israel, right?
When Israel became a nation and all the kingdoms around all had kings and they were saying, we want a king.
God's like, why would you want a king?
Yeah.
That's a good example.
Why would you need a king?
You know what I mean?
That's a good example.
You know, death and destruction.
They demanded a king because, all right, you've got to get a king and everything that comes with it.
And we've seen what happened with Solomon.
We've seen what happened with a lot of kings that became corrupt and what did God do?
He allowed the enemies to overcome them.
Now, look here in America today.
You know what I mean?
We're supposed to be this nation of God and everything else.
And look, you know, these recent decades, nothing to do with God at all.
We're committing idolatry, sexual perversion.
I mean, it's uncannous what's going on now.
You know what I mean?
It completely removed God out of the schools, out of the entire system.
Now we're getting our asses handed to us, excuse the language.
And because as God said, hey listen, you want to turn your back against me?
This is what happens.
Now we got corrupt leaders in power.
I mean even half the time it's Republicans and Democrats.
Remember the Bushes, the Obamas, the Clintons, Biden and all these people come in power and they promised everything else and all of a sudden they, you know, taking some of your liberties.
They're, you know, we'll keep you safe, we'll give you free health care, and in the meantime they don't do any of that stuff, you know what I mean?
It's just like you said, Joe, history repeating itself.
We're seeing the same exact thing going on over and over again.
And you would think people would learn from history.
You would think this, but no.
No, they, you know, they don't.
And I see, I, you know, like I was telling you earlier, I mean, I'm 54 and I've been voting since when I turned 18.
That was like a privilege for me was to vote.
I couldn't wait to be 18 because I grew up in a house that You know, we talked a lot about politics.
So I, you know, I remember Nixon resigning as a kid.
I remember the impact that was having on my parents and them discussing, you know, this guy named Richard Nixon.
I, you know, was very young, but, um, so that I, I always, I grew up in a house knowing that, you know, people say politics doesn't matter.
And it, it does, you know, what's the two things you're not supposed to talk about in a bar is religion and politics.
And I'm like, well, what else is there to talk about?
You know, So and that's it.
People don't want to talk about it because we do take these things very personal.
You know, these are very personal things.
And just recently, looking back on the corruption of George Bush, and I voted for this guy, and I look back on it now with stuff that I've read and uncovered, things that have come out, you know, and like, man, this guy was going into Iraq.
See, I was behind all of that.
I was like, yeah, let's go in Saturday.
Now I look like that was the big, that was dumb.
That was just dumb policy.
How in the world could we have been so stoked to go into Iraq?
And then the billions and trillions of dollars we spent there.
For what?
For what?
That's when things started really kind of opening up.
You know, for me, a couple of years ago, I was like, boy, I've been duped.
You know something, right after 9-11, I immediately went to the recruiting office, and all of a sudden, they got in and go.
Then all of a sudden, everything's being directed toward Iraq.
I'm like, what in the hell has Iraq got to do with any of this?
What's Iraq got to do with anything?
Absolutely!
You know, like most of these dictators are in the world, and like, you know, it's like, what the hell is going on here?
Then I got friends who were in wars and all that, like, dude, don't bother, half these wars are orchestrated, or proxy wars, you know what I mean?
By the CIA or these globalist organizations, you know what I mean?
And it's nothing to do with liberating countries, nothing to do with our freedoms and liberty.
You know, don't waste your time.
And thank God I listened to them and didn't go.
But man, like, what a mind job, you know what I mean?
It really is.
It's like, well, here we are.
Bin Laden blew up the towers, and all of a sudden, what the hell is Saddam Hussein have to do with any of this?
You know what I mean?
Like, it was crazy.
And if you look into it, then, you know, again, this vast media calls you conspiracy.
So even with the things that are going on today, This look, I was raised in a country where you looked at all sides and you heard from all things.
And I was I was trained in seminary and then receiving my doctor.
So I've been trained.
If you, for example, are investigating atheism, then you go and you read atheists and you read them until you understand their arguments.
You understand where they're coming from.
You can empathize with where they're coming from.
That that creates that dialogue because you become informed.
But today, they just censor it, like with Russian television.
So you can't, so they just cut, and that to me right there, that tells me, it's like, well, that's not the way, that's not right.
I don't care if you like Russian television or not, don't turn it on.
But to those of us that want to look at every single angle, and particularly about war, I want to know everything now because I know and remember when Colin Powell held up that little thimble of anthrax and said that Saddam Hussein is producing this little thimble of anthrax that could wipe out millions of people and it was a load of crap.
So that let me know right there that my government can directly lie to the public.
Directly.
And so those blinders came off.
And I realize that our government leaders lie.
And our media lies.
We know this.
There's a ton of proof of this.
And it's just, you know, for the last couple of years, it's been like this.
But this thing going on with Ukraine and following it, I've been following sort of what's going on there the last year.
But then with all of this happening, it just It's like these blinders came off, and I'm like, this is a disaster.
And look what they're doing to Russia today, RT.
RT.com, Russia Today.
I mean, half the places you go, you can't even get it no more.
They block it.
And you, Russia Today, I love using a lot of their articles.
It talks about China and other countries also asking, demanding answers from the United States on these bio labs.
But anywhere else, it's a conspiracy theory, or you're accused of being part of the Russian mafia or something.
Or, you know, they accuse me of being under the Russian payroll.
I talk to your host here, Rhode Island.
Ridiculous.
Demand and Me, Tulsi Gabbard, Tucker Carlson off the air.
He's a Republican, by the way.
And he's like, all you guys are spewing Russian propaganda.
It's like, what?
It's like we knew about this years ago, man.
This is on public record.
But yeah, that's where it goes.
And I mean, it's like, well, the other thing I thought we were because because again, I obviously collect books.
So we had books by Pat Buchanan written back in 2007.
And John Mearsheimer and others.
These were ultra conservatives, you know, Republicans, but they were writing about this.
And what's uncanny is John Buchanan.
It's almost as if he was prophetic because he was describing if we continue to push Putin, especially in Ukraine.
Now, this is 2007.
If we continue to push Putin, especially in Ukraine, this is what's going to cause what he's going to do about it.
And it's almost as if the conservatives were prophetic.
They were writing about this.
And then after 2014, definitely writing about it, criticizing our policies, saying, don't push Putin into the arms of China.
Don't do this.
And lo and behold, what are we doing today?
And now if you're conservative, you can't say what the conservatives were saying just five years ago.
And this is what's angering me.
I'm like, we have completely flipped the script here.
And I'm like, how in the heck did this happen?
Absolutely.
It's mind-blowing, it really is.
It just stifles me.
And again, it goes against history and people just quickly forget about it.
All you have to do is pick up a book or look at an archive or a document that's well on record.
But yeah, you go, oh, you're a Russian agent, Darren.
But yeah, because I just seen two weeks ago on the Department of Defense's website the full records, the financial records and everything else about the bio labs, US bio labs in the Ukraine.
Yeah.
And all of a sudden it gets taken down.
But I'm imagining that, you know, that was a conspiracy theory.
Unreal, man.
Well, they were saying, I was hearing this on the media, that after the collapse of the Soviet Union, which by the way, no longer exists, the Soviet Union is gone.
Communist Russia is gone.
And that there were promises made not to extend NATO beyond These certain borders and everyone was denying this recently on the miss all that now.
Well, lo and behold, James Baker and all of them were definitely promising Gorbachev.
It's in writing.
You can go to the dot gov, all the documents, all the interviews.
They're all there.
Yeah, they did promise Russia that we would not continue to extend NATO beyond the borders of Germany after the unification of East and West Berlin.
And lo and behold, what has NATO done?
They've done nothing but expand and push.
And so what you're witnessing today is just a really pissed off Putin.
He's just, he's, he's fed up with this.
And I understand that.
I don't agree with what, you know, I hate war.
I hate seeing people die.
I don't, I don't enjoy any of that.
However, the way I was trained was to understand every side of the argument.
And so I understand what he's trying to do.
I also understand what the Ukrainians are trying to do.
And like I said, there was a way about six, seven years ago that all of this could have been avoided.
And we turned a deaf ear.
NATO turned a deaf ear to it.
The United States turned a deaf ear to it.
And then we went through three years where Trump was a Russian spy.
And it's like you people, and that's when I just walked away from Fox and everything else.
I said, I'm done.
I can't do this anymore.
I don't know what you're telling me is true, not true.
I can't verify it.
And that's the biggest problem today is verification.
Absolutely, and I was always told there's three sides of the story.
It's his side, her side, and the truth.
You know what I mean?
Or in this case, the Russia side, Ukraine side, and the truth.
You know what I mean?
So, uh, the truth, you know, is the nitpick of the story, yeah?
So, like, that's the thing with this whole thing.
And also with the pre-tourism and everything else, it's like, you know what I mean?
You gotta hear both sides.
And like with the pre-terrorism, I've welcomed a discussion about pre-terrorism.
My friend Richard, too, he preaches it.
But it's like they can never be civil about it.
And it's like I just want the questions answered.
I want to know both sides.
I would love to hear it.
And where your claims are, what your claims are based off of in the history.
And it's all to do with history.
That's what we're just talking about here.
It's like let's talk about it.
But, you know what I mean, when you bring up the valid questions and they get mad at you.
Same thing here with what's going on in the media, right?
You bring up the thing.
The fact that it was on the Department of Defense's website.
It's on public record through many federal agencies, right?
You bring that up.
And this was a fact.
You bring that up, then you get criticized for it.
I was like, wait, why are you criticizing me?
Criticize them.
They're the ones who brought it up.
There's documents on us.
You know what I mean?
So I'm not the one lying.
Instead, they're the ones who said it forever and bragged about these things.
And all of a sudden, I'm lying.
You know what I mean?
It makes no sense.
And this goes with everything.
Yeah.
Well, the preterism, if you run into the full predators, the hyper predators, they'll try to shut They'll shut you down and use ridicule and use all of these kinds of tactics, which I certainly did back in the day.
You know, Lord, forgive me.
But what you try to do is make your opponent look stupid.
You know, Jesus said this generation.
So, you know, how long is a generation?
Is it two thousand years?
And there's ways to it.
There's other the full preterist.
He's not aware that there's other alternatives.
There's other ways to interpret these things, especially in academia or scholarship.
There's other ways to look at this.
You know, you say tomato, I say tomato.
And so I like a view that allows and that can dialogue and interact with several different theories or interpretative theories that come down the pipe.
And certainly the idea of Jesus coming in the future allows for many different ways to see that.
You know, how that's going to play out or what that looks like.
And we're free to speculate.
I'm not going to shut you down.
You're not going to shut me down.
We can talk about these things.
But with the hyperpreterist, they shut down all conversation.
You can't say anything past 70 A.D.
Because for them, there is no other alternative.
There is no other way to read the Bible.
There's no other there's no other possible interpretation like with this generation.
There's only one way to read that and one way only.
And that's it.
And it's like, well, no, there's other ways to, you know, especially in this topic, because this topic has produced probably more theories and ideas than any other topic.
I mean, I don't debate.
You and I are not going to have a radio show over whether Jesus is the lamb in Revelation.
You know, we all agree on that because it's very clear.
Yeah.
Jesus is the lamb in Revelation.
So we're not debating that.
When the lamb is going to return, that one we'll debate on because there's a lot of details and there's a lot of things going on there.
You know, and so that should leave room for discussion.
But with the full preterist, they don't want you to have any room for discussion.
They just want to shut everything down.
You know, that's kind of sad, I believe.
Yeah.
That's the problem I ran into.
That's when I started getting a little aggressive.
I'm like, you know, hey, come on, guys.
Let's try to have a decent discussion.
I'm asking you these questions to prove it to me.
You're not answering them.
You're starting insulting, getting mad, and everything else.
That shows to me there's, you know, you're hiding something.
You're lying about something.
You know what I mean?
And if I was to defend something, I would defend it the best I can and be cordial about it, you know what I mean?
And explain what I believe the Scriptures say.
And that's what I do with unbelievers all the time.
This is what I believe the Scriptures say, and it's happening.
This is what I believe, you know what I mean?
And if your beliefs are different, I mean, talk to me about them.
Talk to bottom and what you don't mean we could learn from each other We could I mean there's a lot of things that come out of that You know, I mean and you can help me I can help you with things and but they don't want to do that You know, it's just like that way.
That's it.
If you don't agree you're you're some kind of hypocrisy or whatever.
You're a Blasphemous, you know person right and I I try to operate it in many as many circles as I I can I don't try to You know, Paul says, try to live as peacefully with all men as possible, you know, try to be a respectable person.
But yet, you know, the balance is, and I wrote a commentary on Daniel and going through the material there for a year and then coming out with this commentary.
Here's this teenager that's taken out of his country and brought over into this just pagan, completely pagan culture.
And he's all about, you know, he's with his couple of friends.
But other than that, he doesn't speak the language, you know, he doesn't know.
And yet somehow he remains a statesman in the administration all throughout Nebuchadnezzar's rather long career.
And he does it.
So here's the question.
Can you remain faithful to God, walking with the Lord in a pagan culture?
And the answer that Daniel says is yes, you can.
You don't have to compromise your values in a pagan culture.
And I think that's the problem the Christian church faces today is they think they have to compromise these values.
You don't.
But you don't have to be, you know, a butthole about them either.
Therein lies the rub because we're supposed to love everyone.
We're supposed to live at peace with people.
We're peacemakers.
This is what we are.
We're supposed to bring peace, even with our enemies.
You'll make my enemies lie down in front of me.
And so that's the hard part, is to be peaceable, but yet true to my convictions, living in a pagan world, obeying God.
Now, that sometimes will bring persecution.
Daniel was thrown into the lion's den.
He made it out.
And his three friends were thrown into the furnace.
And it may involve your being taken off the air.
It may involve you losing friends.
It may involve you losing a job or something.
It might involve that, but remain faithful to the Lord.
That's the message of Daniel.
Remain faithful to God.
You will be rewarded.
It's not easy, but it's not meant to be easy.
So that's the point.
It's not easy.
It's very difficult.
You have to prepare.
Dan, each morning you wake up, you've got to prepare for what this day is going to bring about.
And settle in your heart, I'm going to follow the Lord.
And I don't know what to think about it.
And that's not easy, man.
That's just not easy.
Not in this world.
No, not at all.
And, um, yeah, I've been taken off tier, uh, different stations, whatever the case.
I've been persecuted by my own family.
Half my family turned against me.
Lost a major friends over this stuff.
And, you know, and lost jobs sometime.
It's just like, yeah, it comes with the territory and, uh, but yeah, you're right.
You know, when you wake up, you gotta be prepared for whatever comes at you, you know?
And, uh, and if you're being attacked, it just shows that you're, you're doing your job.
You know, so it should be something that you can commemorate yourself for because you're doing your job.
If they cancel you, they do this to you, you know what?
That means you're doing your job, but the father will reward you, as you said.
Now, do I detect a New York accent?
Are you from New York?
I'm from Rhode Island, so I'm in between Boston and New York, so I get that mixed accent, you know what I mean?
Because people from Boston and New York, they got these crazy accents, so I kind of got it in the middle.
Yeah, well how are things going there?
You're in Rhode Island now?
Uh, yep.
Yeah, how are things going there?
Alright, I mean, considering we got a bunch of tyrants in the statehouse, but yeah, pretty much okay right now.
I mean, the weather's getting better and just got over being sick and everything else.
So, yeah, last few weeks I suffered major attacks, man.
You know, a few relatives died.
I got sick for like two and a half weeks.
I'm still sick a little bit.
I'm like 97% better now.
Right.
Well, I know that my time is up.
I said two o'clock.
I mean, family turned against me, just like one thing after another, you know, and cousin got arrested by the ATF because crazy stuff, man.
And just all kinds of stuff going on, man.
And that's just like, you know, it's like you got to deal with it, you know, stand up and face these trials like a man and, you know, let the Lord prevail through them.
Right.
Well, I know that my time is up.
I said two o'clock.
I've got to get up super early in the morning.
And I do appreciate you having me on the show and would love to do it again.
Absolutely.
It'd be great.
Sometime.
I like the freedom of the conversation.
A lot of shows I get hammered in that, you know, you've got to stick to this thing.
And I, my wife complains about me all the time that I rabbit trill a lot.
And I said, well, that's how you find things out.
Yeah.
You know, I, you know, I'd like to ride the trail and go off in different areas.
Well, that's what I mean.
I like to give my guests some because you want to show so the show is about you, not me.
And I mean, so give me the freedom to talk about where you are.
I'm not going to shut you up about anything and all that stuff.
So, yeah, I would love if you want to stay on later, you can, but I know you're going to get up early, too.
But I would love to have you back on again.
You should let me know where you want to come on and what you want to talk about, too.
We'll do it.
I mean, I will do that.
And I, again, appreciate And I'm sorry that I do have to, it's late here and I'm not, I'm a late night guy.
I could stay up very, but if I have to get up, I'm not an early rising person.
Yeah.
I hear you, man.
When I get up early, I can't stay up.
So if they schedule, you know, at work or something, it's like, well schedule me in the morning.
And then I got my afternoon so I can, you know, but it's like a payoff kind of thing.
Yeah.
It's like, well, let's run to your lunch.
I want neither.
I don't want either one of them.
But anyway, yeah.
Pleasure talking to you, brother.
Yeah, good talking with you.
Thank you very much.
You too, man.
Yep.
God bless you, man.
God bless you.
And that was Samuel Frost, guys.
Check out his website.
It's Vigil.
Let me get to the website here.
It's...
Vigil, V-I-G-I-L dot blog.
V-I-G-I-L dot blog.
about does tie into what we're trying to say with the pre-tourism.
So, yeah, and if you want to know more pre-tourism, we're going to cover some of this here.
Pre-tourism, Wikipedia talks about it.
And usually I don't trust everything from Wikipedia, but this is the basis of it.
It's a Christian eschatological view.
Interprets some partial preacherism or full preacherism, as we just discussed.
And prophecies and the Bible events which had already happened.
And a school of thought interprets the Book of Daniel as referring to the events happening in the 7th century BC into the 1st century AD.
So, we go through it, and it also talks about, um, this is where I started, uh, drawing red flags, too, is this Jesuit, uh, and the thing is, here's the thing, if the Jesuits got involved with this, and, yeah, it predates this Jesuit, yeah, but, uh, this Jesuit, um, a Luis del Carzo, a Pope, and I'm butchering his name here, but anyway, uh, from 1554 to 1613, was a Spanish Jesuit theologian.
So he wrote this manual here about preterism.
So the very fact, okay, if we just end the show right now, the very fact that the Jesuits were involved in this, that's gonna raise major red flags in your head.
Mind you, the Jesuit church was the one who pushed evolution.
People think it was Charles Darwin.
No, Charles Darwin never pushed evolution.
He studied it, he stated it was a theory.
He said, you know, if you can't demonstrate something in a lab and observe it, it's not science.
Yeah, I mean, and so what they, it was a guy named, two guys later, it was Charles Dawson, not Darwin, Charles Dawson, he was a British patheontologist, and a Jesuit priest named P.R.
T. Hodgson.
Them two took evolution and ran wild.
They're the ones that come up with the Piltdown Man, The Missing Link.
They took a monkey's jawbone, broke it off, and filed it down to look like it would fit the human skull.
And they unburied this in front of the press, and it ran wild in the evolution court.
It was a Jesuit doctrine push.
Pushed by the Jesuit doctrine.
Everything sinister, basically, that's happening, whether or not it's pushed by the Jesuit doctrine.
So there are ties to the Jesuits, you know, Jesuits' society of Jesus, they call themselves.
And if you ever see the symbol here, The I-A-H, it's a Jesuit symbol.
And the Society of Jesus, the religious order of the Catholic Church, headquartered in Rome.
So it's basically, if you will, imagine the Catholic Church is two separate organizations.
The same, sorry, two wings.
You got the Jesuit wing, and you got the Jesuit Catholics, and you got the Roman Catholics.
And that's why Pope Francis, he was a Jesuit Cardinal, the first Jesuit Cardinal to become the Roman Catholic Pope.
And by doing this now, because Jesuit Cardinal is going to answer to the Black Pope.
Nobody knows about this guy.
He's the Pope of the Jesuit Order.
So by him becoming the Pope of the Roman Catholic Church, it kind of merges the churches back together.
And if you want to look at nefarious stuff guys, not just the Jesuit Church, but the Catholic Church too.
Rome is full of hell, literally.
I'm going to say it just like that.
And the founder was a guy named Ignatius of Loyola.
That was the founder of the Jesuit Order.
Now, that was back in the 1500s, and he's said to be the first one to create the Order of the Illuminati.
And the popes at the time told him, no, you can't reveal that name because it's to reveal him.
Forgot what the story actually was.
So what he did was he created the Society of Jesus, hid the Illuminati within the Jesuit Order.
So now, over the centuries, when I got to do a show on the Illuminati, Over the centuries, when the Illuminati started getting well known, they had Adam Vysap, happened to be a Jesuit too, he was a professor in canon law in Bavarian, Germany, created publicly the Order of the Illuminati to get the tithes away from the Catholic Church.
And it was a big conspiracy going on.
I mean, it's even to this day.
I mean, it goes so deep.
They're the ones who push these doctrines, these demonic doctrines.
They're the ones who do this stuff.
You know what I mean?
So, let's just go through some stuff here.
The full preterism people, like he keeps saying preterism, preterism, okay?
The full preterism people believe that everything's happened.
Now let's just examine some stuff.
Let's just go through some scripture, right?
What the Bible has to say, the events that took, you know, that's supposed to take place.
Jesus, you know, again, when we get to Matthew 24, now understand where this is at, right?
Jesus has already been crucified.
He rose from the dead.
All right, he appeared to the disciples in the spirit.
Now they're sitting on the mountain of olives.
Jesus is there talking to them.
Now before he sends it to heaven, they ask him, when will these things take place?
When will you, when will be the signs of your coming?
Now Jesus lays out these things in order.
So let's cover some of these here.
And so let me take a drink here.
First of all, start with Thessalonians chapter two.
Now, every time we go through something, ask yourself, did this happen yet?
And all these questions you ask these, uh, preterism people, they can't answer these questions.
Oh, it happened.
Well, where's the proof?
These are major, uh, cataclysmic events that this would have been charted by every historian that was around at the time.
These things would have been, like, just like, like, we all know about World War I. We all know about these cataclysmic events.
You know what I mean?
So these things would have been majorly indented in history books.
So in 2 Thessalonians, Now I beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by the gathering together unto him, that you not be shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter from us, that the day of Christ is at hand.
Hang on, it's sick of me.
And let no man deceive you by any means, for the day shall not come, check this out, he's saying, this day will not come except there be a coming or falling away first, and the man of sin be revealed, the sudden perdition, that's the Antichrist.
Now could anybody honestly tell me Now we know, we understand, we have many anti-Christs in history, but this is talking about THE anti-Christ.
Like the many false prophets.
There's millions of false prophets, but THE false prophet, THE anti-Christ we're talking about.
The son of perdition.
There's not many, there's one.
And can anybody ever tell me right now that he's coming?
People say, well, Nero, he was, yeah, Nero hated, oh, you bet, he hated Christianity.
He used to stage things to blame the Christians.
Like fires and attacks and blame Christians for it, just to get people to roam against Christians.
He was a bastard, excuse my language, but no, he was not the Antichrist.
Because if you look at the traits of the Antichrist, talk about the mock of the beast and all that.
Nero's mock, he had some certain mock.
Not everybody got it.
People didn't be beheaded.
They wouldn't be beheaded.
Nobody got beheaded for refusing his mock.
And the Antichrist rules the whole world.
Rome and some of Europe, that's where Rome ruled.
They didn't rule the whole world.
There wasn't one world religion at the time.
And there's many other stuff, and we're going to go through it.
The gospel is preached from all corners of the earth.
The gospel didn't even start getting to the earth until the recent centuries.
I mean, when we had the ability to translate the Bible into different languages.
You know, hundreds of countries all over the world, and languages.
And today, that's now, you know?
We have the Bible that's literally translated to every language across this world.
It wasn't like that back then.
I mean, heck, the gospel didn't even leave Europe yet.
It was still spreading through Europe and the Middle East.
Anyway, who opposes and exalts himself about all that is called God, all that is worship.
So that he as God sitting on the temple of God.
Nero didn't sit on no temple of God.
Nero didn't show himself that he is a God.
Or anybody else back then.
So remember not that ye that was with you, I told you these things.
So he's talking about a future generation because he's like, he's been, you know, being recorded obviously to talk about this, but you guys remember these things because I told you these things.
Referring to people of us in the future generations.
And know not that withholding that he might be revealed at this time.
For the mystery of iniquity does already work, and only he who liveth will let until the day be taken out of the way.
Until he be taken out of the way.
So this is talking about the Restrainer.
The Restrainer is going to be taken out of the way.
And when the Restrainer is taken out of the way, you think things are better now, okay?
When the Restrainer, we believe it's Michael the Archangel.
But when the Restrainer is taken out of the way, all hell is going to break loose.
Christians are going to be butchered and everything else, like never before.
And then, okay, after the Restrainer is taken out of the way, right?
And then shall the wicked one be revealed, the Antichrist.
And whom the Lord consumed with the spirit of his mouth and shall destroy with brightness of his coming.
Even him whose coming is after the working of Satan, with all powers and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness and unrighteousness, and them that perish, because they receive not the love of truth, that they may be saved.
And for this cause God shall send them a strong delusion that they should believe in a lie.
And that's all these doctrines out today, guys, these false religions and beliefs.
That they might be damned who believed in not the truth, but pleasure and unrighteousness.
But we are bound to give thanks always to the God, your brother in love, through the Lord Jesus, because God, I'm sorry, God has from beginning chose you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and the belief of truth.
And it goes on glorifying our Savior.
So, um, could anyone, you know, preachers and people out there, could you at all tell me where, where was the Antichrist?
Cause especially by now, come on, the Antichrist would be well-worshipped, right?
We would have idols.
I mean, if I was even talking about Jesus, I'd probably be hunted down and killed right now.
When did this happen back then?
It didn't.
And there's not one shred of history to even say that did.
None.
Slavius, all these different historians in the ages, never recorded anything like this.
Never.
You know what I mean?
And they said, some of them will lie, say they did, but when you call them out on it, they can't show you.
And if anybody's ever read some of these books, you would understand.
You see, there was nothing ever like that to happen.
So let me get back to the scriptures here.
And, uh, this is, um, I think this here will be the nail in the coffin.
Now, granted, Matthew 24, right?
Like we said earlier.
Matthew 24, this is one of the biggest verses preterists use to defend their faith, their belief, I should say.
Matthew 24, 34, "...truly I say to you, this generation shall not pass till all these things be fulfilled." We just talked about this a little while ago.
Let's look at this in context.
Is Jesus talking about the generation of the disciples?
Or a future generation?
So if you read actually Matthew 24, what you're going to, you're going to see he's talking about a future generation to come.
And in those days, I say, I think he says it several times in those days.
In other words, the future.
Not now, guys.
Those days.
He says it several times in this chapter here.
So let's go see what it says here.
And Jesus went out and departed from the temple, and his disciples came to him to show him the buildings of the temple.
And Jesus said to them, Ye not see all these things verily I say to you?
There shall not be left one stone upon another that shall not be thrown down.
Talking about the temple.
And he sat upon the Mount of Olives.
The disciples came to him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall all these things be?
What will be the sign of thy coming and the end of the world?
And Jesus' answer to them said, now, now mind you, they're asking, when will these things happen?
This is talking about a future tense, not now at this point.
And Jesus' answer to them said, take heed that no man deceive you.
For many shall come in my name saying, I am the grace and shall deceive many.
Now, has anybody in the, you know, in the first century Has many people came to say they were Christ in the first century?
No.
The gospel is just starting, you know, it's still brand new.
And half the books weren't even put together yet.
And he's talking about, you shall hear of wars and rumors of wars, and seeing that not be troubled, for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
Now yes, all through human history there's always been wars and rumors of wars.
And for a nation shall rise against nation, a kingdom against kingdom, this has always happened.
And there shall be famines, pestilence, and earthquakes in diverse places.
Now we know obviously there's been pestilence, there's been famines, there's been earthquakes and all that.
But nothing like this.
And he says, these are just the beginnings of sorrows.
The beginning of sorrows.
And now, he says, then they shall deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you, and you shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
All nations.
It's not just talking about Rome and a couple of nations and, and, uh, Europe.
All nations.
Were people delivered and, uh, killed?
Somewhere, yeah, but not everybody.
Then they shall be offended and shall betray one another and shall hate one another.
Tell me now, okay, you know, the last couple years, guys, everybody's offended by everything.
Never seen that in my whole life, guys.
And they're ratting each other out.
I mean, you tell me when in your lifetime you have seen anything like this that's going on today.
They cancel culture and all.
You can't say that.
The last few years, guys, you've seen all this, these pansies out there, they cancel culture, they woke mom and all that, offended by everything.
You can't say you've seen that back in the 80s.
The way it is today.
And it says, many false prophets shall rise and deceive many.
How many false prophets really arose in the first century?
And how many people could they possibly deceive?
Because again, the gospel is just still spreading.
So that didn't happen.
And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
But he that shall endure to the end, the same will be saved.
Talking about you have to endure through all this.
There's no pre-tribulation rapture.
This covers so many different things.
Matthew 24 is like the nuclear bomb.
Literally, if you take Matthew 24 right, it is literally the nuclear bomb against many false religions and beliefs.
Literally.
Even though all these false religions believe they'll use one, maybe two verses from Matthew 24, but they take them out of context.
If you take one verse, you can make it sound like anything.
Ten different people read it, ten different interpretations, but you're reading it in this context, it's a paragraph, a chapter, there's no room, I mean, no need for interpretations, clear as day.
And all ten people would have the same interpretations.
So, and check this out, right?
This is another thing that's gonna happen.
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all of the world for the witness unto all nations.
All nations.
And then the end shall come.
So back in 78 AD, could you tell me the gospel was preached unto all the world?
It says all nations.
Rome didn't rule every nation in the world.
And all nations wouldn't even close to getting the gospel yet.
So, one of the two things is wrong here.
Either the Bible's lying here, and the Pre-Truism people are right, or it simply didn't happen yet.
Because this is one of the key prophecies before the end.
And surely back in 70 A.D.
the Gospel was not preached into all the world.
Then they'll defend it and say, well, the world at the time was just Europe.
No, it wasn't.
There was great civilizations long before Europe.
I mean, civilizations going back thousands of years before this time.
It literally says the gospel shall be preached in all of the world for witness unto all nations That didn't happen back then it's just started happening last couple hundred years Translating the Bible and the Bible is now going all over the world officially And when you shall therefore shall she see the abomination and desolation spoken by Daniel the prophet stand in the holy place whoever reads it and understandeth
Okay, so let's go to Daniel, the Abomination of Desolation.
And Daniel 9.27 says, He shall confirm the covenant with many for one week, and in the midst of the week shall cause a sacrifice to the oblation to cease.
And for the overspreading of abominations ye shall make desolate, even unto the consummation of the determination shall be poured out upon desolation.
And 1131 Daniel, and I'm shall stand at his part and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength and they shall take away the daily saint of sacrifice.
I'm sorry.
And they shall place the abomination that make it desolate.
Could you tell me this happened back in 70 AD?
And if you say yes, you're a liar.
Then there's another thing, uh, you know, we'll go talk about in a minute here.
Let me get to finish the rest of Matthew.
And Jesus says, when you see the abomination of desolation, let them which be in Judea flee into the mountains.
And let witches on the housetop not come down to take anything out of his house.
And let him not turn witches in the field turn back to get his clothes.
And woe to the people who have children in those days, who give suckling to those days.
And pray that your flight not be in the winter, neither on the Sabbath day.
And here's the other thing too, people.
This right here, just, again, the book of Matthew, chapter 24, just obliviates all these false claims.
I mean, you got the modern-day dispensationalists, right?
I don't mean to sound like I'm jumping all over the place, but they say, oh, the Sabbath is just for the Jews, the Sabbath, uh, it's been abolished.
So why would Jesus here in the end times be telling you?
Pray and not be on the Sabbath.
Why would he emphasize the Sabbath day?
See, you see, that's why I love the Book of Matthew.
I love it, because it decimates the Catechism.
The Book of Matthew is the nuclear bomb to the Catechism.
It decimates it.
It's a nuclear bomb to the Watchtower.
It's a nuclear bomb to the Book of Mormons.
It's a nuclear bomb to this Preterism stuff.
The Book of Matthew is so powerful, it's a nuclear bomb in a spiritual sense.
I love this book, man.
And especially these modern-day dispensationalists about, oh, the Sabbath's no longer required.
It's Sunday now.
No.
Not at all, guys.
Check this out.
And this also goes for the pre-tribulation people, too.
Check this out.
For then shall be a great tribulation such was not sent at the beginning of the world to this time, nor shall ever be.
And except those days should be shortened, there should be no flesh saved.
But for the elect's sake, those days will be shortened.
So why would Jesus call Those days are short for the elect if we're all raptured before that.
Then you got the people.
Oh, it's the people left behind.
There's no people left behind.
He's saying the Great Tribulation is going to be shortened for the sake of us.
And he warns us.
and if any man shall say it to you he has the Christ and believe it or not whoops Yes.
Did any of this stuff happen back then?
and false prophets and shall show great signs and wonders as so much if possible they shall deceive the very elect behold i have told you before yeah does did any of this stuff happen back then no wherefore i shall say to you behold he is in the desert go forth now and Now this is, uh, I think the Baha'i faith.
It's a sect of Judaism, I believe.
Uh, but they believe that, you know, he came from the desert, knowing few people have seen him.
And he says right there, Matthew, if they tell you I'm in the desert, don't believe them, don't go forth.
Behold, he is in the secret chamber, believe it or not.
How many religions out there said the same?
Oh, he came from the desert, or he came from here, or there.
This is Jesus saying, don't believe that.
Blatantly telling you.
Again, this is a nuclear bomb against all these religions.
It's great.
Now, check this out, right?
If anybody in pre-trism could tell me this happened, alright?
You gotta be smoking something.
And you surely don't know history, you surely don't know the Bible.
This is right here, okay?
For as a lightning comes out of the east and shines into the west, okay, so shall be the coming of the Son of Man.
This is a grand Hollywood entrance, the whole world's gonna see it.
Not just a few people over here, the entire world's gonna see this.
This is gonna be like a cataclysmic, world-shocking event.
He's not coming in secret over here like the Bluff Behind movies or any of that garbage, no.
He's coming like as lightning shines in the east, then that means everybody's gonna see him.
Because when the lightning strikes, everybody sees it.
You know what I mean?
This was gonna happen.
It's a grand Hollywood entrance.
And he says, where the cock is called, there will be eagles gathered together.
And check this out, right?
For the pre-tribulation people.
Immediately, check this out.
After the tribulation of those days.
See the word, those days?
So this is a preacher, the preachers and people, oh, Matthew 24, truly I say to this generation of our past unless these things be fulfilled.
Saying this is a generation of disciples.
No!
Those days!
Those days!
He's talking about a future generation to come.
Not the generation of the disciples as they're talking to him live, right there.
He's not, because he said your generation will not pass.
Simple word reading comprehension your generation if that was the case he says this generation the one he's talking about Now once again immediately after the tribulation of those days Shall the sun be darkened and the moon shall not give off her light and the stars from heaven shall fall and the powers of heaven shall be shaken And I believe this is a literal event guys because we know especially of us who believe in biblical cosmology
And people, you know, we believe in biblical cosmology that these stars are not balls of gas and stuff like that.
They're actually heavenly beings and they're angelic figures and whatnot, you know what I mean?
So, yeah.
This is literally gonna happen.
And again, immediately after, the tribulation wasn't back then.
Why is it so close?
Can anybody tell me?
There's been times in history when God stopped the sun in the middle of the sky.
I do a lot of different biblical events, yeah?
But, yeah, can anybody honestly tell me this hasn't happened already?
No!
This would be, you kidding me?
Some of you tell me, oh, you know, back in 70D, all this stuff happened, but the stars went back up there again.
You know, it makes no damn sense.
Even people say, well, it might be metaphorically speaking.
No, I truly believe this is real, because we know, you know, if you believe in biblical cosmology, this makes sense.
If you don't believe in Biblical Cosmology, this doesn't make sense.
How could stars fall from heaven and it'll destroy the Earth and all that?
Like, yeah, I understand if you don't believe in Biblical Cosmology, but if you believe in Biblical Cosmology, this makes a million times perc- uh, Uncle Obvious, uh, yeah, you know what I'm talking about.
Um, yeah, we talk about this all the time.
Uh, so, yeah, and, um, this makes 100% sense for those of us who know Biblical Cosmology.
This sticks out like a sore thumb, man.
But anyway, and there shall appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven, and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of Man coming in the clouds of heaven with great power and glory.
Did this happen back in 70 AD?
Did the whole world see this?
This says all the tribes.
This doesn't say just Europe or Rome.
All the tribes of the earth.
All.
All.
All of them mourned.
Not just Europe.
All the tribes of the earth.
They shall see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great heaven and power and glory.
This didn't happen.
When did this ever happen in history?
None.
And they shall send his angels with great sound and trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heaven to the other.
This is a great gathering, what people might call a rapture or whatever.
Tell me when this happened.
In history, in the Preterist people, tell me when this happened.
This would have been, you know what I mean, historically bounded.
This didn't happen yet.
Then he goes on about the parable of fig tree.
Which is basically talking about Israel becoming a nation again.
Um, Israel didn't become a nation until when?
It was in 70 A.D.
which, you know, the temples were being destroyed.
It became a nation again when?
In 1949, right?
So how could this take place when, you know, when it wasn't a nation again?
And now here's the verse right here.
Now listen to this verse, right?
The verse that the Preterism use, of course, out of context.
But now read this verse, as we, you know, go through the context.
Verily I say unto you, this generation shall not pass till all these things be fulfilled.
Now does that make sense?
See, the thing is the Preterism people, they won't read that in the context.
Like we just did.
They'll take that one verse and he can make it sound like anything.
This is Jesus talking about in those days.
How many times he say those days?
This will happen then, you know, in those days.
He's not talking about the generation of the disciples.
Because he would have said, your generation will not pass until these things be fulfilled.
He said, this generation, referring to the one he's talking about in those days.
And it says, heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words will not pass away.
But at the end, he has another one too.
But of the day and hour knoweth no man, even the angels of heaven know, but my Father only.
Nobody knows.
And surely this didn't happen yet.
That's obvious this didn't happen yet.
But as the days of Noah, and this is where the pre-trism people don't understand what the days of Noah are like.
They have no clue what the days of Noah are like.
At all.
They think it's all just corruption and all that.
No, it's genetically corrupted.
The Nephilim.
All this genetic material.
It's a horrible genetic mess.
And it's happening right now.
You know, I can't say too much because of YouTube, yeah?
But yeah, we did tons of shows on this.
But as the days of Noah so shall be also the coming of Son of Man be.
For as the days before the flood they were eating and drinking and marrying and giving in marriage until the day Noah entered the ark.
And they knew not until the flood came and took them all away so shall also be the coming of the Son of Man.
We are now just entering what the days of Noah are like.
With the grid and signal technology and all this other stuff going on the revealing of these You know that they talk about aliens and UFOs all the time, which we know the principalities and everything else Biblically, they're not from Mars or something.
But yeah, that's that stuff was that back then now it's happening again And watch therefore, you know, not the hour of the Lord you'll come You don't know the hour It says watch but you don't know the hour of when your Lord's coming.
I don't know why it keeps doing this here But know this if the good man of the house knew about the if one thief would come he would wait up for him So and you know talks about yeah, if you knew of Trying to summarize it here If you know when the thieves come you'll be home ready for him, right?
So obviously you don't know when thief would come he said he's gonna come like a thief from late not saying he's a thief.
So And therefore also be ready, for in such an hour as you did not, the Son of Man comes.
So when you did not, you know, oh yeah, and bam, he's gonna come.
before you even know it.
You know what I mean?
So, if you could go through all these prophecies and everything, and yeah.
And there's another one here, from Isaiah.
The burden in Damascus, behold Damascus is taken away from Bena city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.
And as cities of war are forsaken, they shall be for flocks in which lie down, and now shall be make them afraid.
So this talks about Damascus that's in Syria, right?
Being totally decimated.
It's gonna be a ruinous heap.
What could do that?
Tell me what could do that.
What could make a city a ruinous heap?
Completely taken away.
Wiped off the face of the earth.
What weapon in the world could do that?
Surely not the bows and arrows and things they had and swords back then in the first century.
Talk about nuclear annihilation here.
Why is Damascus still standing?
If all these prophecies came to pass in the first century, why is Damascus still here?
The Bible says it'll become a ruinous heap.
Why is it still here?
Because the prophecy hasn't happened yet.
And Jesus didn't return yet.
And look at what's going on in the news all the time.
Every time you turn around, you hear about Israel, Damascus, and them fighting rockets at each other, all this kind of stuff going on.
And Damascus is on the brink.
I mean, that's like the central land.
You got Russian troops there, United States troops there, troops from all over the world in Damascus.
That place is a ticking time bomb.
And it's not even done yet, man.
We got some revelations, prophecies.
When the trumpets are blown.
Could you tell me any of this stuff happened back in the first century?
We'll go for one for example here, right?
And this is a future event.
The sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates and therefore was dried up in to make war away.
I'm sorry for the kings, these might be prepared.
Now talk about the river Euphrates being dried up.
Could anybody honestly tell me the river Euphrates dried up in the first century?
And if you say yes, you're a liar.
Here's news articles right here.
Talking about Iraq's mighty rivers, the Tigris and Euphrates, will soon dry up.
They're already drying up.
Euphrates River is already like halfway done drying up.
They said within the next decade or so, it's gonna be no more.
That's the way it's going.
This is real.
Here's the thing, too.
These people don't understand.
I could take scripture, I could show you historical things.
I could take scripture and bring up new stuff and all that.
You can't do the same for the preterism stuff.
I debated a lot of these people a lot.
They can't do this.
Tell me when, you know, when did the Euphrates River dry up?
In the first century?
You can't tell me that because it didn't happen.
I mean there's so many prophecies guys.
So many.
So many prophecies that just started unfolding recently and whatever.
And you know what I mean?
So yeah.
So guys I don't know if you want to give a call in.
I know a lot of people are tired.
So I'll take a couple calls and if you're a preterist please call in.
Please.
I would love to talk to you.
And if you get out of control I'll just cut you off.
You know what I mean?
I'll just keep it civil.
But yeah, otherwise guys, if you want to call to talk about this or whatever the case, or open topics, we'll give you a little while.
I still got some left in me, so we'll take some calls, guys.
There's the phone number there.
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What's happening, bro?
Not much.
How you doing, man?
I'm doing good.
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Another thing he was touching on earlier, he got on it a little bit, man, but it really stuck out to me about how, like, the church I left and, you know, my old preacher, still love him and all that, but how they would totally manipulate and distort
What God says in His Word to uphold the doctrine, you know, not the other way around, is like, you know how they do, like, oh, yeah, it's Sunday because it says here they met on the first day of the week.
Like, little stuff like that drives me crazy.
Like, if you read your Father's Word and you know it, and you know the context, you know No man will be able to deceive you.
You'll be like, no, that's, uh, in left field.
That's out of context.
That's not, that has nothing to do with what he was saying.
Let's see.
People don't, uh, get in there.
They, they believe these people every Sunday and on the TV and how many, uh, billions in America are living their best life now, bro.
That Joel Osteen crap.
Yeah.
But, uh, But I've seen many people twist the Word of God to uphold the doctrine and just not have to conform to what He wants us to do, like forsaking the pagan holidays and keeping His Sabbaths and feast days.
Oh, no, that was just for the Jews.
Jesus did away with all that.
Oh, Jesus destroyed half of his self when he died on the cross.
Since he's the word, he did away with half the word.
Yeah, and we just read in, um, uh, this was Thessalonians, uh, uh, let your, your flight not be on the Sabbath.
You know what I mean?
Expressing the Sabbath.
And he's talking about the end times.
Yeah.
And, um, Oh, by the way, um, guys, if you call, like, uh, somebody's calling out 440.
If I'm on the phone with somebody, I'll call you back.
So, um, so go ahead, Tim.
I'm sorry.
Oh yeah, what you're saying.
Yeah, he said when you start seeing all these things, fear not.
Hey, the end is not yet.
Still got a ways to go.
Yep.
Like, has the sky and space rolled back like a scroll with blinding white light of glory that we can't even imagine?
It's gonna burn centers and destroy Satan just with the brightness of his coming along?
Yeah, I'd like to know when that happened in history.
I mean, that's a cataclysmic event, man.
These people are insane, man.
Yeah, if Kericho says, bro, you're going to be seeing the cosmic boogie-woogie first.
That's when you know, oh, OK, it's seconds now.
Or like James asked in the chat room, is pre-tourism and pre-rapture people believing the same?
No, the pre-rapture people believe that we're not going to be here for any of this stuff.
We're not going to be here for the mark of the beast.
We're not going to be here to see Satan when we read in Matthew chapter 4 when he says immediately after the tribulation, 2 Thessalonians, that he's going to return.
Immediately after the Great Tribulation, says it specifically.
Right.
You know, pre-Tribulation Rapture, people, they go off the dispensationalist doctrine and believe that we're going to be magically beamed away, and Marty McFly's school bus there, you know, like David Carrico says, Marty McFly's going to beam us away, Before this happened, which, that's not what the Bible says.
Yeah, the nuclear bomb for the, you know, rapture?
It's where Jesus prayed to the Father.
Yeah.
I don't pray that you take them out of the world, but, you know, you keep them from the evil one and see them through to the end.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, doesn't that kind of say it all right there?
Yep.
But anyhow, But, okay, you want to touch on news, nuclear war, okay, we know they're going by Albert Pike's, you know, blueprint, whatever they put together for the three world wars, but one thing that, now, if you go and research, you know, their website, they tell you their plans, what they want to bring in, how it's going to run, da-da-da-da-da.
I'm telling you, if they're telling you nuclear war, that you ought to be getting ready and fearing nuclear war, it's probably not going to happen.
When in history do they ever tell you what's really going on?
Yeah.
I don't think that now's the time.
I mean, it could be.
What do I know?
But, uh, seems like they still have a lot of building to do yet.
Absolutely.
You know, uh, anyhow.
Well, yeah.
Thanks for the call, Tim.
Thank you, brother.
Okay, man.
Have a good one.
Bye.
Take care.
Alright, so, uh, 440 number calls.
I'm gonna call you back.
I think I know who this is.
So, we're the show that calls you back.
So, guys, if I'm on the phone, try calling.
If I deny the call, I will call you back.
I can promise.
I know it shocks people sometimes. .
Thank you.
Well, at least I tried calling you back here.
So, you guys, if you want to call in, I'll be open for another couple hours.
Another few minutes here, whatever.
A couple more calls I mean.
So... Yeah, and uh... There it is.
0.
You're on here.
What's your name?
Oops.
Hey, if you call, turn the volume down on your computer.
I call you on here.
What's up, Dan?
Hey, tell me.
Could you turn the volume?
Could you mute the YouTube video?
Yeah, bro.
I did.
I didn't mean to interrupt him at all.
That's all right.
Shout out to Tim.
Shout out to Harold.
Shout out to Mountain.
Shout out to Elle.
Shout out to everyone.
Every single one of them prayer words in the chat, man.
You really do have some faithful out there, dude.
You're an awesome guy.
And like, for real, man.
You know, what it really all comes down to, at least in my humble opinion, Dan, dude, y'all all really, you're warriors for Christ, bro.
You really are.
But in the end, does it really matter?
I think we should rejoice.
I think we should be happy.
We shouldn't be gloomy.
We need to be out on the streets.
We need to be evangelizing to people.
We're sitting here in the bubble.
We're all talking to ourselves.
But the reality is, what would Christ do?
We need to be out there.
We need to be out there.
The poor.
We need to minister.
We need to save souls, dude.
At least, you know, and I'm not really good at all this, but I'm just saying, in my mind, I think we need to be like Jesus.
Pick up your cross, follow me, get out there.
Forget your life.
Forget your worries.
Get out there and get it.
Get it.
We need to be happy about this.
Not just, like, downtrodden and all the world's going to hell?
Well, yeah!
For sure it is!
But, uh... Sorry to rant.
That's alright, that's why you have to show less.
Two times, baby!
Love you, Dan!
Love you too, brother!
I really love you always calling me back.
Absolutely, man.
And I appreciate your call and support, brother.
Always, Dan.
No, uh... You actually turned me on to... I don't know if it was Rumble or if it was...
Another one.
Rumble, yeah.
I did subscribe.
I did subscribe.
Awesome.
I'm on it.
I'm on it, baby.
You stay on it.
You stay on it, brother.
Awesome.
Thank you, man.
I love it.
Hey, I actually did see the thing you did with David Carrico with the Antarctic.
Oh, yeah.
I watched the show.
Great, phenomenal show.
And I love it.
I like the depth.
We need it.
But, like, honestly, we need to get out of the bubble.
We need to get to these people out here.
And I honestly do believe the main objective of spiritual warfare is to evangelize to the sinner.
I'm a sinner.
You're a sinner.
We all do.
But damn, man, I just sometimes I feel like Christians sitting in a little box listening to one guy, it's not enough, man.
We need to get out of that paradigm.
I mean, Christ was going city to city with thousands following Him.
I mean, I'm not proposing that Maybe that's the solution.
I just, I think to myself sometimes, I'm like, I'm not doing enough, man.
I'm not saying for works, but out of faith comes works.
You do it, you do it from the heart.
You believe, so you do as he did.
And, uh, I don't know, sometimes I'm a little bit disturbed by it, but love you, Dan.
Love you too, brother.
God bless you, man.
God bless you.
Always.
Peace.
Peace.
And that's why we had the shows last week, guys.
You know, about pumping people up.
He has some disturbing news a lot.
You know, sometimes it's gloomy, but don't be gloomed out about it.
It's like, these things have to happen.
And he has a thing.
He has bad stuff, but remember, he says these things need to happen before he returns.
So if something happens that's part of processing, man, be rejoiced.
You know what I mean?
Because that means he's coming back that much sooner, you know what I mean?
So that's the cool part about it.
And there's some verses here I wanted to bring up, too.
More verses about... Where is it?
Yeah, there it is.
About Scripture and about false doctrines and everything, which applies to this here.
It's applicable to this whole preacherism crap.
Yeah, and 2 Timothy 3.16 and 17 says, All Scripture is given in inspiration of God and profitable for doctrine, For reproof, for correction, and for instruction in righteousness, that man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped to every good work.
So this is telling you, he wants you to challenge it.
He wants you to challenge it where he wants you to question it, and he wants us and him to answer it as well.
269, you're on the air, what's your name?
Hey brother.
Hey, how's it going man?
Good.
You know, just want to talk about You know, people really need to think about the Father nowadays and quit thinking about themselves and what their jobs and things.
We really need to get together, you know, all people together.
You know, people just, this Christmas stuff and Easter, you know, they need to live by the laws of the Father, not what the churches are preaching.
You know, the churches are just leading people astray.
And, you know, I was a Catholic for a long time.
I was over 50 years old before I found out the truth, and it just shocked me beyond control for a while.
And, you know, now I just devote myself to the Father.
You know, great show.
Keep up the good work.
Thank you, sir.
And thank you for your support.
You have a good day.
You too.
And amen to that, man.
Yeah, that's what it's about.
Some people wake up after 50 years old, some people wake up right away, whatever the case.
The point is, you woke up.
That's the good thing.
I'm a recovering Catholic.
I was a Catholic half of my life.
Well, not half, but the first part of my life.
Then I got to other religions and all that, and yeah, thank God, you know, the gospel showed me to stay away from all religions.
You know what I mean?
Plain and simple.
Not just pulling on one religion, I pull on every single religion out there.
Cause, uh, this here, we don't need a religion to tell us how to read this.
Because religions want to put a religious lens over it, so you read it only their way.
You take the religion out of the way, you read this for itself, and you'll learn more Bible in like a month or two than you'll learn in a year in a regular church.
Literally.
You know what I mean?
If you, you know, pray to the God for discernment, pray to God for discernment, you know, ask Holy Spirit to reign upon your heart, confess your sins and get right with God and read the scripture and ask Him to help you with this, you'll learn this so quick and fast and better than you would do in the church.
I don't care what religion it is.
I don't care if it's the 40 different denominations, thousand denominations of Christianity, the Catholic Church, the Preterism people, the Jewish Church, all these other churches out there.
Episcopal, whatever the hell you want to call yourself.
Yeah, I don't follow religion.
I follow God, plain and simple.
I don't need a middleman.
I don't need none of these religions to tell me how to read the scripture.
I read it for myself and with the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.
That's all I need.
That's all you need.
You know what I mean?
And yeah, it says, but speak though the things which become sound doctrine.
Titus 2.1.
And again, this verse here says, yeah, the scripture is inspired by God.
And basically saying if people challenge you, and they do all the time, they're gonna challenge you and you need to know the word.
I get challenged all the time.
I love being challenged.
Here's the thing.
Don't get discouraged from being challenged.
You gotta get trolled out there who throw things up all the time.
You need to understand this, okay?
God's allowed that to happen to keep you sharp.
You know, you gotta get trolled with, oh, well, Christians killed people in the Middle Ages, and how could you call that a good religion?
Number one, I'm not a religion.
Number two, Christians didn't kill people in the Middle Ages.
It was a Catholic Church that killed Christians in the Middle Ages for possessing Bibles.
Literally.
You know what I mean?
And, you know, the Inquisition, you know?
So you need to know your stuff, okay?
And, uh, so when people do try to reproof you for correction or anything like that, you need to know your stuff to be able to correct them and show them what the gospel actually says, like we just did today.
Like with, um, this verse here.
The praetorism uses to defend their faith, but yet, when you read it in this context, it goes against their faith.
So you need to know your stuff, and you never stop learning.
And the Bible tells us to speak through the things which become sound doctrine.
In other words, through the scripture.
In 1 Timothy 4.1.2, we just read this at the beginning of the show.
Now the Spirit expressly says that, and a lot of times, it's the end times, yeah?
Some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons.
That's exactly what preterism is.
Speaking lies and hypocrisy, that's exactly what they do.
Having their own conscience shared with a hard iron.
That's all these faiths out there.
And for the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves.
Teachers have an itch in their ears, and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and they shall be turned into fables.
2nd Timothy 4, 3 and 4.
And if you get what that's saying, guys, and this is happening now, Look, you got the Mormon Church, right?
They got the Book of Mormons.
That's not sound doctrine.
Catholic Church.
Oh, yeah, we use the Bible too.
Well, we use the Catechism more than the Bible.
That's a doctrine of demons.
That's not sound doctrine.
The Watchtower for the Jehovah Witnesses.
The Book of the Dead for the Wiccans.
And the Preterism, they don't know what the hell... They can't even get history right.
Galatians 1, 6-9 says, I marvel at you, so soon removed from him that called you into grace of Christ and to another gospel, which is not another, but there will be some that trouble you and will pervert the gospel of Christ, but this is exactly what they're doing, the preachers.
They pervert the gospel of Christ.
But though we, an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
So he's saying, anybody that preaches another doctrine, let them be accursed.
The Catechism, let them be accursed.
The Watchtower, let them be accursed.
The Book of Morons, let them be accursed.
Preacherism, let them be accursed.
The Book of the Dead, let them be accursed.
The Naragati, let them be accursed.
The Quran, let them be accursed.
And here's the thing too, you know, um, the, um, the doctrines I spoke of in, um, the, even, uh, the Quran.
They recite some Bible verses, but again, way out of context.
Then later on, they end up bashing the Bible in the first place.
You know what I mean?
So, you know, these are doctrines of demons.
They're not sound doctrine.
And as the angel said, let them be accursed.
Titus 1, 9-11 says, Holding fast and faithful word as has been taught, that he may be able to sound doctrine both to exhort.
Sound doctrine means the Bible only.
And to convince the gainsayers, for there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, especially they of circumcision, whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not for filthy lucre's sake.
That's people going around teaching all this other crap of preterism, and we're gonna focus on that today.
That's what this is.
They subvert truth.
And Revelation 22, 19 says, And if any man shall take away from the words of this book, of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life and out of the holy city and from the things which are written in this book.
And that's exactly what preachers do.
They manipulate words from the Bible.
So guys, yeah, when they all preach another Jesus, you're right, Marky Marky, you're right on that.
They all preach another Jesus.
And so thank you guys in the chat room guys and Harold McCain.
Thank you for posting all these awesome Bible verses Thank You James John Paul, what's up, man?
And none of them shall teach his neighbor, nor the brother.
You're right about that.
Uh, Joanne Wheeler, what's up, man?
Miam, not Miam.
Joanne, what's up?
So we got another call, 912.
What's up, your idea?
What's your name?
Hey, it's me again.
What's up, man?
Yeah, before you, uh, cut off here, I just wanted, uh, about, uh, pre, what's it called?
They call it, uh, predestination.
Yep.
The church I left, they're reformed Baptists believing in predestination.
You're either predestined to be saved or to go to hell, one or the other.
God already knew.
The trouble I had with that, I just wanted to get your take on it.
Jesus came to die for the whole world.
Yeah, the whole world won't accept him, but the whole world has an opportunity.
They're not some that just predestined to go to hell and that's just it.
Yeah, and it doesn't say...
Is this what I'm...
Yeah, and the scripture doesn't say, oh, you know, salvation is offered only to predestined people.
It says all.
Salvation is offered to everyone.
It doesn't matter your race, color, creed, anything like that.
So it's offered to anyone who believes in it.
It says anyone, John 3, 16, anyone.
It says anyone, not predestined people.
You know what I mean?
You're right.
Yeah, so I mean, if it was predestination, where do they come up with this stuff?
Because if you're predestined to go to heaven, why keep any of the laws or worry about sin?
Yeah, and that's insanity, and they don't get that.
It's like if you're predestined, then why bother?
If you're predestined to go to hell, then just go do whatever you want, or you're going to go to hell anyway, right?
That's the mentality that these people have.
And you know, if you're predestined to go to heaven, you're not going to follow the rules, because I'm already going to heaven, so I can do what I want.
So that's the destruction that leads people down.
And so I guess where they're pulling this from is that verse where he said, You know, they repeat this a lot.
Who I foreknew, I also predestined.
You know that verse?
How's it go?
It's something about... Alright, he knew us before he formed us in the... Oh, what's it, Joshua?
And who he foreknew... Who he foreknew, he also predestined.
But I take that as... Like, if you have a... If he's predestined, that's not like...
Salvationist you that's right.
Well, I've chosen you to do this and this and this, you know in his Kingdom, I would think it leans more towards that.
What do you think?
Oh, yeah, it's our Jeremiah 1 5.
Let me put that up on screen Let me get to this here Jeremiah 1 5 It says before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee before they came out or forth of the womb I sanctified thee and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations so that's not really a God creates people.
I mean, yeah, he knows like from now until the end of whatever, you know what I mean?
But the thing is people still got choices, you know what I mean?
He knows what's gonna happen but people still have a choice and it's not saying it's predestined about God created because of his bloodline and everything else.
He created it because he knew that Jeremiah was gonna grow up to be a prophet.
They're really stuck on that and I kept asking the preacher, I was like, You know, if some people are just predestined to go to hell, then why did Jesus say, you know, what did our father say?
He's not willing that anyone should perish.
That he died for the sins of the whole world.
That's all-inclusive there.
Yeah.
Sounds like an open invitation.
Yeah, let me get to this, yeah.
I think this will set it all right, yeah.
Go to John chapter 3, 16, 18.
Right?
Ready?
For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whoever doesn't say predestined people "...that whoever shall believe in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.
For God sent not his Son to the world to condemn the world, but that the world through him might be saved." The world.
So he's hit the world and whoever.
So these are people predestined.
Who's he talking about for whoever?
It says anybody who believes in him is not going to perish.
And he that believes in him is not condemned, but he that believes not is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the one begotten by the Son of God.
So whoever shall believe in him shall not perish.
Doesn't say... Let me ask... Go ahead, finish.
I was gonna say, it doesn't say, yeah, only certain people.
Like in the Black Hebrew Roots movement, they believe that only them are going to heaven.
And no white people, no oriental people, nothing.
Only they're gonna go to heaven.
And then you got the KKK version of Christianity.
They believe only white people go to heaven.
You know what I mean?
It's totally hypocritical.
You know what I mean?
Because your bloodline, your racial color, I don't care if you're related to King David himself.
I don't care if you're a direct descendant of Mary herself.
If you don't believe in Jesus, you're not going to heaven.
You're not guaranteed a spot in heaven.
You have to believe and repent and everything else.
You know what I mean?
Go through the blood of Jesus Christ.
It doesn't matter your bloodline, your color, your skin, nothing like that.
Because Jesus says neither Hebrew or Greek or Jew.
There's no Jew, no Greek.
No male, no female.
You know?
No color.
Your bloodline doesn't matter.
That's all counseled out.
Yep.
It's all faith, belief, and repentance.
Okay.
So, you know, John Calvin didn't have everything right.
He wasn't, aren't there a lot of things?
Cause I know they're, they're, they're Calvinist too.
Kind of big time.
So is that, is that straight up and okay?
Or are there flaws in that?
I think I forgot.
It's been a long time since I started Calvinism, but I think, I mean, there's a lot of flaws in Calvinism.
That's for sure.
That's why I don't follow religions, man.
No beliefs or religions.
I follow, like, we're the remnant of God.
You know what I mean?
We follow Him directly.
No middleman.
No religious views.
No religious dogma.
Religious dogma destroys the Bible.
It really does.
They take bits and pieces, choose how they want to pick it.
And what they'll do is they'll tell you one thing, right?
They'll string together a bunch of verses to make it sound like what they're talking about.
And they know 99% of the people read these things.
They're not going to challenge them.
They say, well, the Bible says this.
Here's all the proof, right?
And they'll show you 100 verses right down the middle.
And they know nobody's going to read those verses.
Oh, it's from the Bible, so it must be true.
But the people who do read those verses, you end up learning the verses are out of context.
They have nothing to do with what they're talking about.
They do the strategic.
Every religion is guilty of that.
That's why we follow sound doctrine.
That's what I was saying earlier.
I've seen them do it over and over again.
They will twist the word of God to uphold that doctrine.
Yep.
Just totally, you know, Clip, copy, paste, rearrange, and to fit and make that doctrine be the most holy thing above everything.
The doctrine.
The doctrine.
Anyway, okay, yeah, I just wanted to ask you about that.
Oh, no problem.
The predestination.
They are really big and hung up on it.
I went to this place all my life, and I don't remember them being like that a long time ago.
I guess a lot has changed over time.
I just never heard.
Yeah, it's a big mess, and here's the thing.
Every one of these religions, right?
Every one of them, they get one, you know, something right.
They'll get something right, absolutely.
And they work off that one thing right and mix it with, it's like the occult.
Uh, with the, you know, this occultic numerology crap, you know what I mean?
They get, you know, they'll get some stuff right, alright?
But they'll take that one part truth and mix it with 99 parts garbage to lure you in, you know what I mean?
It's the same thing with religions, though.
You know what I mean?
The Bible doesn't do that.
The Bible is a hundred parts right.
There's no dogma involved.
There's no religious lenses involved.
It's you directly, like, it's like the Holy Spirit talking to you directly.
Without the false interpretations of religions.
You know what I mean?
Because a pastor will read a couple of verses that tell you his dogmatical meaning of those verses when it's nothing to do with what does end.
You know what I mean?
So that's why it's important for us to read our own scripture and read them in context and break down and see what these really things understand, you know?
Understand what these things are about.
Fred, whenever your preacher is putting together a sermon, constructing a sermon, instead of just reading what the word says.
Yep.
All right, brother.
I know it's late.
I know you're tired.
Hello to everyone in chat.
And a big woo to you.
I will tell you good night.
And remember, tinfoil underwear keeps rainbows out of your butt.
Love you, Tim.
God bless you, man.
Love you, bro.
Bye.
Bye.
Lf10 he's awesome.
I call my chatroom cheerleader.
Whoo Yeah, so yeah, and I think James is asking to explain Moses how he came about as a deliverer of prophecy 400 years prior Yeah, the thing is God's got plans for people, you know, I mean and if you notice to all these people who have plans you know noise of God raises you up to do something and if you're a target just say I He wants you to accomplish something, right?
When you're grown up, Satan will try to target you.
All your life, try to target you to draw you off that path.
He doesn't want you fulfilling what God's promised you.
And I don't know if that's a predestined or not in that case.
And I think you were saying about, um, what's his name?
Oh, that betrayed Jesus.
Yeah.
Let me go back to the comment.
comment, yeah.
What's his name that betrayed Jesus?
Hang on, I'm just trying to get to the comment here.
I'm sorry if I didn't find the comment.
That if they don't have the light and truth in their heart, you know, they could, it's not that they're predetermined.
Okay.
It's because, uh, if they don't have the light and truth in the heart and they're deceived by Satan, Satan's already set up a plan for them.
So that's why God wishes me a man.
Oh, man.
That deceived Jesus.
Uh, uh, yeah.
I'm dumb.
Like a brain is farted today, guys.
Yeah.
I can't believe.
Let me see.
Judas okay.
All right.
I can't believe his name.
So judas, right?
Remember, uh, he he told um judas that he's gonna see he's gonna um Deny him three times because the thing is the truth was never in his heart to begin with So when the truth is not in your heart, it's not like necessary predetermined Um, the thing is the truth is not in your heart So therefore if the truth's not in your heart satan's already set a plan for you He's already trying to push you.
He's already got a plan for you, and he's gonna cause you to go in that direction.
So that's why he deceived, you know, he sold out Jesus for 30 pieces of silver.
Jesus knew that.
Because the truth wasn't in his heart.
He didn't allow the truth to change him, and, you know, in the spirit.
You know, Judas, yeah, he could have, at the end, who knows?
Yeah, I mean, at the end, right before he died, he probably, like, completely repented of everything, and maybe he is saved.
You know what I mean?
But Jesus knew at the time he was gonna be betraying him, right?
And who was it too that denied him three times?
I'm sorry guys, I'm just like off today.
It's been a long day PETA, alright So, Jesus told Peter that you gotta deny before the cock crows tonight.
You gotta be at the cock, the chicken, whatever.
He crows tonight, you gotta deny me three times.
And he did.
Because he knew, okay, what was going on.
He knew Satan was going to set up obstacles in his way for him to do that.
You know what I mean?
Not that it was predestined.
It's just because he knew and Peter later on regretted it.
You know what I mean?
And same with Judas.
You know what I mean?
He knew Judas was going to turn from him because Judas didn't have a heart for Jesus.
You know what I mean?
He really didn't.
And that's why he could see through him and knew the plan that Satan had established for him to do this stuff.
You know what I mean?
I don't know if it's predestined or not, but the thing is, when you're born, you still have a choice.
You have a free will to still have a choice to follow God or not.
God knows everything.
It's beyond our human comprehension.
He knows what we're going to do five minutes from now.
You know, I could walk off this door, I could take a left in the hallway, or I could take a right in the hallway.
That's my decision to make.
But he already knows that, but we also have a choice to make that decision too, you know what I mean?
So it's complicated, you know what I mean?
It's not to say that you're destined to go to hell, you know what I mean?
You still have a chance, if you willingly accept Jesus, okay, you're not gonna go to hell.
You know what I mean?
No matter who tells you, well, it's complicated, it really is.
And it's hard to wrap your mind around because here's the thing, we humans at this time and age, we think we're smarter, stronger and all that, we're not even near that.
We never were.
You know what I mean?
People were smarter back in those days.
Much smarter than us.
They could actually comprehend these things.
Today, because the world's been blinding us, we can't, you know, humans can't comprehend such things.
I mean, us in the faith, we can, a lot.
Even us, we've still been indoctrinated by this crap today.
So it's hard to understand sometimes, you know what I mean?
And you've got to take the limitations of humanity out of your head.
Because God doesn't have limits.
So when you understand that, you start to understand God.
And how it works.
But even that, you're still not going to fully comprehend God.
Until we're in the spirit, you know what I mean?
Because our minds would just explode.
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It doesn't... I'm not driving around in limousines or flying in land jets like Joel Osteen's all these fake prophets out there.
You know what I mean?
Well, I'm out here just trying to preach the word of God and, you know, I gotta work a full-time job to support my family.
So, you know what I mean?
And it's great to spend Friday night going to the Shabbat with you people.
Oh man, so, I'm tired.
Alright guys, thank you so much for joining us.
Uncle Obvious, Tim, and Valerie, thank you guys so much for moderating our chatroom.
I'll talk to you guys in a few minutes, yeah.
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So that being said, we are out of here.
And good show tonight.
It really was.
And I thank Mr. Frost for coming on the show.
Samuel Frost.
And I hope to have him back again.
It was a pretty good conversation.
I thought it was.
Alright, let me get to my outro and we will see you Monday on our new show and we're gonna be doing a lot more on Rumble too, so please I pinned the link in the description In the chat room, I'm sorry, subscribe to my Rumble guys because YouTube took my main channel down They could do it to this one So please subscribe to my Rumble channel because we're trying to direct everybody over to that and also create an account on Rumble This way you could take part in the live chat So thank you Carlo.
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And he says, even if pre-destination is real, you still have a chance to follow God.
Absolutely.
Anybody, that's what it says.
Anybody.
Anyone who believes in him will be saved and have everlasting life, so...