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May 18, 2013 - Dan Bidondi Show
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DEBATE SHOWDOWN- Dan Bidondi Debates Troy Sexton
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This is Dan Badandi, it's May 1st 2013 and this guy Troy Sexton, this guy from West Virginia he calls the Alex Jones Show, he calls Jason Burmish Show constantly and just like trolls He's been trolling me for the last week or so, and non-stop, you know, calling me every name in the book, trying to get me to call him.
So you know what?
I'm going to give him the opportunity to talk, and I told him, you know, keep it civil, and we'll debate.
You know, he wants to debate, so here we go.
And we're calling Troy Sexton from West Virginia.
Hello?
Hi, is that Troy there?
Yeah, this is Troy, just ain't even on there.
Hey, what's up, man?
Hey, how's it going there, Boxers?
Uh, not bad.
So, yeah, um, yeah, well, like, I don't understand, though.
What do you want to debate, though?
Well, first off, you said there was drills taking place that day.
Well, that wasn't for my mouth.
That's what I was trying to explain to you.
I was told that by the Washington Post.
The Washington Post posted that on Twitter.
And it was even retweeted about 2,000 times.
So, you know, as a journalist, of course you've got to question that, you know what I mean?
You're saying it's untrue.
Huh?
You made it very clear that bomb drills were taking place that day.
Yeah, they were.
It was inaccurate.
I interviewed several people that were there, that witnessed it.
And uh, you know, in the Washington Post confirmed, yes, there was bomb drills taking place.
You're lying to me, Dan.
What's the names of all these people you interviewed about the bomb drills taking place?
No, we interviewed them.
I got them on... I did a report.
It's all on the video and everything.
We just interviewed... You didn't interview anybody, did you, Dan?
Yeah, we did.
You had one coach.
That's all the info was, man.
We got tons of interviews.
There was a coach that even said it.
A coach that was, you know, a coach of these runners.
You had one coach.
You had one person.
Yeah, but why would...
Let me ask you a question now.
Why would the Washington Post post that?
I don't believe they did.
Well, it doesn't matter what me and you believe, man.
They tweeted that.
I even called the Washington Post and asked them why they took the tweet down.
And they couldn't give me an answer, and it was retweeted 2,000 times.
We got the screenshot of that.
That was posted on their forums as well.
The thing is, we're not making accusations.
We're just questioning what we were told.
Local 15 even said that there was announcements made on loudspeakers that, you know, to stay calm, and this is just a drill.
You just lied to me again, Dan.
You know I don't like liars.
You didn't make accusations.
You didn't make accusations, Dan.
What?
I didn't make accusations, Dan.
Yes, I am.
Why don't you go right now?
You on the internet right now?
What?
Are you on the internet right now?
Yes, I am.
I can get on it, Bubz.
Well, why don't you go Google this, okay?
We're trying to explain to you, man.
This is the only stuff we're hearing from the media.
We're not making the stuff up.
You can't make the stuff up.
I don't care what the media says.
I talk to the media.
I don't trust the media.
We don't trust the media either, but they reported this, and of course, as a journalist, I have to ask us questions.
Yeah, you can ask questions, but you're being...
Go ahead and tell me what I need to Google, Bob.
Yeah, just Google Local 15...
Let me check here.
Local 15, just to give you accurate...
Alright, if you go to...
We've got the hyperlinks on Infowars.
If you go to InfoWars, uh, Google, just type in, uh, InfoWars, IWinners, Authorities Announced Drill Before Boston Explosion, and they have the links for the sources, and also the people's names, the coach I was talking about, and, you know, all the information about it.
And the New York Times also said something about it, so we got all the hyperlinks on that.
Okay, so now I need to go to Infowars.
Well, yeah, because Paul Joseph Watson, he's got all the, you know, where the sources are. - I'm sorry?
InfoWars, Marathon, I'm trying to find a tweet.
Oh, no, go to, uh, you know, Google InfoWars, eyewitnesses, authorities announced drill before Boston explosion.
Actually, you know what, are you on Facebook right now?
Alright, let me send this right over to you.
I'll just send you the link now.
Yeah, I'll just send you the link.
And on that article there, there's the New York Times and the local 15 links, that's where the sources are about this.
It says University of Mobile's cross-country codes told local.
I don't understand what you're trying to get at there.
No, just go to the article I just posted.
I'm looking at the InfoWars article.
It says University of Mobile's cross-country coach, Ally Stevenson, told local 15 news.
Yeah, that's the source right there, the hyperlink.
Danny Boy, come on!
You know how many hundreds, maybe thousands of cameras were recording that day?
that this was just a drill and there was nothing to worry about.
Danny boy, come on, you know how many hundreds, maybe thousands of cameras were recording that day and you can't produce one of them that has this apparent audio that was said?
Oh yeah, and that's why exactly we got all the videos and footage.
We got the pictures and everything, you know, these things happen.
No, you don't have anything!
You have no audio!
You have nothing over loudspeakers talking about bomb drills.
Well, why was it reported by the media?
Because they took what this one person said as fact.
Well, the media reported it.
The thing is, if it wasn't true, why wouldn't they answer it?
That's what we just want to know.
You know, we want to know if it's true or not.
Now, if it wasn't true, just say you were the FBI for a minute, right?
Now, when I asked the Governor, I mean, if I asked you that, right, and you know in your heart it wasn't true, you would've stood by that and you'd say, hey, that's not true and this is the reason why.
But to ignore that, it shows you up right there.
Actually, you're wrong on everything you just said.
No, I'm not wrong.
I've been doing this for years, man.
There's nothing wrong about it.
I just ask real questions.
That's all I do.
One person made a claim and it has not been proven true.
Well, regardless, how come they haven't proved it wrong?
I mean, if they proved it wrong, by all means, I would be happy.
More than happy to... How can you prove it wrong?
How can you prove that wrong?
All I want is for one out of a thousand video recorders that provide the audio evidence of it.
Well, that's what we want too.
We want the truth.
- Okay, but you have 75% of the people on your side, which means 75% of the people recording are on your side, which means 75% of 1,000 and 750 people have it on their video recorder.
How many times has the FBI been caught red-handed and stuff?
No, this is all to do with the FBI.
How many times have they caught with the hand in the pot?
Tons of times.
I mean, you had the Times Square bombing, the Christmas tree bomb attempt, you know, with the Mall of America.
But I'd rather keep it on the Boston Marathon if it's up to me.
Do I agree that I've proven you wrong over the bomb drill thing?
Well, yeah, that's exactly.
We're openly staying.
Yes, we think the FBI was behind us.
It was a false flag.
Can we agree that I've proven you wrong over the bomb drill thing?
No, you didn't because you didn't prove no documentation.
The thing is, we are documenting...
I didn't get you documentation of something that didn't happen.
Yeah, but we got documentation staying there.
Now, if you show me a documentation that says it didn't happen, I would be more than happy to... I mean, I wish this didn't happen.
You kidding me?
I wish none of this happened.
We don't want this stuff to happen.
There's one person that said something which has not been proven true.
Okay?
Annie, come on!
One per... Listen, I've done given you... You said 10 years prior.
Well, this is a question we want to know.
Yeah, we're just asking.
False claims?
Yeah, then the local media reported this.
and nobody's brought it forward.
Can you please get this through your head, bubs?
Well, this is a question we want to know.
Yeah, we're just asking.
Okay, you're not asking because you're making claims.
You're making false claims.
So can we now agree...
False claims, yeah, then the local media reported this.
You have no evidence of bomb drills.
Oh, there was plenty of evidence of bomb drills.
Well, please give me that evidence.
You said...
You didn't see the videos?
You didn't see the guys in khaki pants all over the bomb site, all over the place the whole day?
Yeah, that was a report about bomb drills on the Boston Globe!
How does khaki pants equal bomb drills?
No, they did not.
Hey, you're lying to me, Scream.
Hey, you're not lying, but you're misinformed.
on that day.
That's where we got this.
No, they did not.
Yes, they did.
We got the screenshots and everything.
That's a fact.
That's not a record.
I'm not lying.
You're not lying, but you're just misinformed.
Oh, yeah, misinformed.
Well, you know, if it wasn't true, then prove it.
You know, if it wasn't true, we'd be more than happy to be trapped.
How did I prove something that used to never happen?
Was you there?
My dog didn't eat my cat.
Was you there?
I don't know if I could eat my cat, so I guess you are of rightness in.
Damn, I can't fly.
I mean, how do we prove something that never happened?
I don't know how to do that.
But here, it's all on a record.
And right here, I got Local 15 News right here.
UM coach, bomb sniffing dogs, spotters on roofs before exposing them.
We got the pictures of the spotters on the roofs.
We got the pictures of the dogs, the bomb-sniffing dogs.
And the governor himself said that they do that in precautionary for the event.
He said it with his own words when I asked him the question.
That they knew about this ahead of time.
He admitted that they did this.
I've seen the bar!
I mean, I was right, like, two feet away from the bomb sniffing dogs.
Like, I seen the whole thing.
I've been in Boston the whole week.
Yes, but, absolutely, but they're running drills.
You want to have security there.
You want to have dogs.
Come on, Dan.
They were there last year and the year before and the year before and the year before.
Probably for the past 15 years.
Yes, but they're running drills.
They were running drills all that time.
You have not proven to me.
There were drills.
Well, Local 15, I mean, Boston Globe said there was.
Local 15 does not say there were drills.
They just...
Boston Globe... Boston Globe reported drills on Twitter.
That's on record.
No, I'm not, man.
I was there.
You know what I mean?
name, whatever it was, Nicholson, you're a likable guy, you're going down the wrong path.
No, I'm not, man.
I was there.
You know what I mean?
I was in the middle of the action.
Going down the wrong path, Dan.
This isn't good for you.
You've done such.
You lost your wife.
You lost family and friends.
This isn't good for you.
Wake up and be normal.
I am.
I'm trying to get my country back, man.
Why do you think JFK wanted to abolish the FBI?
Dan, what is the problem with your country?
There is no problem with your country.
Have you been... There's no problem?
Dan, I have been... I have been tortured by my country.
Have you been tortured by your own country?
Yes, I have in many ways.
everybody's has.
No, no, not everybody has.
I have been tortured by my country.
Well, then you should be mad about it then.
You should be up and raging about that.
You know, our Constitution is going down the toilet.
We have police going into people's homes without warrants.
You have the FBI tapping without warrants on people's phones and everything.
This is all on record with the Patriot Act and the National Defense Opposition Act.
Dan, the police have raided my home three or four times.
How many times have they raided your home?
None yet.
I'm off the grid, so...
You've done it to me three or four times, okay?
You think I like, you think I like this shit?
No, I don't.
Well, aren't you... I don't believe in bullshit conspiracies.
Well, aren't you outraged about it?
Did they have a warrant when they did it?
Yes, they did.
And what was, uh, the reason why they raided your home?
I was in handcuffs in front of my kids for an empty beer bottle because I was on probation, okay?
Okay?
Yeah, and I'm sorry to hear that, man.
But, I mean, like, you can't deny the police state.
I mean, it's in the national...
Well, go right now, the WhiteHouse.gov website, right?
I want you to PDF these files.
The Patriot Act and National Defense Authorization Act of 2012.
PDF them, you redo them.
You don't comprehend things like...
Because I don't want to offend you, but you don't comprehend things like normal people.
Just like the bomb drills you think happened.
You don't comprehend things normally.
That's why I want you to seek help.
Go see a doctor.
Just do it.
See, I don't comprehend that there is bomb drills, even though it was reported on the media and admitted by several different people.
The thing about you people is, if the media says something that you want to hear... Well, you know what?
Hey, why don't you go watch my video.
The police commission himself, not the mayor, I'm sorry.
It was the police commission himself that said, yes, they did conduct bomb searches.
When I asked them about the drills being done, and they said, yeah, we do precautionary.
Admitting yes, we did drills.
They admitted it.
It was Monday.
Alright, well, it's on record.
I got the commission right in the press conference and viewed the entire world seeing this.
On CNN, Fox, and everything else.
The entire world witnessed when I asked them this, and he stated that.
Basically he admitted, yes we did, because it's a precautionary measure.
He did too.
This is on record.
It's on record.
Was there any prior knowledge of?
Because according to BostonGlobe.com, they said they were doing drills this morning for the same exact thing to happen, according to BostonGlobe.com.
Now were you guys given any warning ahead of time of this taking place?
As I said earlier, there was no specific intelligence.
We certainly increased our posture around a big event like this.
All of those things happened in preparation for this event, but there was no specific intelligence that anything was going to happen.
Ed, can you check?
Danny, Danny, I don't really like you.
I think you've been brought by.
Rod Nicholson had it right.
He had it absolutely right.
And please, just seek help.
Don't be this way.
Go after the government for the right reasons, not the wrong...
Oh, I am going after the right reasons.
I'm sick of being pulled over because I don't have a seatbelt on.
You know, that's a Fourth Amendment violation.
I'm sick of police busting people's doors in.
Dan, how many times have you had men look up your asshole for drugs?
Okay, Dan, I've had it happen to me.
I've been in a pickle stoop.
I've spent, I've got long, total 10 days in solitary confinement around crazy people.
You know that?
I've been tortured with nothing but your thoughts in an 8x10 cell.
That has happened to me, Dan.
Well, I'm sorry to hear that, man, but you should be a rage just like we are.
Jesus Christ, Dan, have you not discarded my...
Yeah, but I don't get what you... We're fighting the same battle you are, and you don't even realize that.
We are, man.
Dan, are you against the National Defense Authorization Act and the Patriot Act?
I don't even know what that is, Dan, okay?
I guess I'm a dumb sheep.
You don't know what the National Defense Authorization Act is?
Damn!
No, and of course you probably know it or think you know it.
No, I want you to do me a favor, okay?
I want you to look, research these for yourself.
You can go to the .gov website, okay, to get it officially from them.
The NDEA... It totally isn't true.
They're not coming after us over this.
Hold on, let me finish here.
It's not?
You're on mine right now?
You're on mine?
Go to Army Regulations 210-35 HR 645.
This is all on record.
HR 645 Army Regulations 210-35.
These are government documents openly stating this stuff.
You had the first question and it was the Boston frickin' bombing.
How did that happen if what you say is true?
It is true!
Wake up, man!
Don't go after the government for the right reasons!
We are.
We have a legitimate government that's trying to take our civil liberties.
It was not an inside job.
The Marathon bombing was not an inside job.
Sandy Hook was not an independent job, nor was Aurora, Colorado.
Go after them for the right reason.
Yeah, you know what's on Aurora, Colorado?
That was the only movie theater that was a gun-free zone.
You think that wacko would have pulled that off in a non-gun-free zone?
Assuming what you're saying is true, it's the only gun-free movie zone in Colorado.
What does that mean?
Let's go to statistics.
FBI.gov admits this.
States that have little to no gun control have far less crime and murder rates than states that do.
Now you have New York and Chicago who pride themselves on gun control, but guess what?
They have the highest murder rates and crime rates with guns in the entire country.
Okay, now you're quoting gun control laws, which I don't necessarily disagree with you about.
But some crazy lunatic went to a movie theater and killed a bunch of innocent people.
What about the government?
You have to believe everything Alex Jones says.
Psychotropic drugs!
Blah, blah, blah!
You have to believe everything Alex Jones says.
Psychotopic drugs, blah, blah, blah.
No, it's on record.
I mean, it's stupid to not even look at it.
You know what I mean?
It's like, how could you not question things?
Don't you want to question things as a human being?
You know?
I found a father's...
Listen, I want to know why that goddamn police chief went on the phone.
on the news and lied about my kids.
I want to know, while my daughter heard them say, which is proven true, we can't find bruises.
Yet, everything I read in the papers is about bruises.
Listen, I want to know those answers.
Well, you know what, we can help you get those answers.
What I'm talking about personally is so, unintentionally, .001% of a marathon bomb in your 9-11 or a Colorado student.
or any other massacre.
Well, we can help you get those answers.
I mean, I'm sorry what you've been through and my heart goes out to you, truly, you know.
But you've got to understand...
God damn it, I struggle making fun of you because I've done it, because you're a good person.
I just think you're something...
Yeah, but I'm over here giving you the facts, okay?
I'm giving you government documents.
It's in government documents.
Let me... You're online here.
I'm gonna give you these government documents.
And anybody listening, because I know you're recording this, go to Google right now and type in Army Regulations 210-35 HR 645.
Type those two documents.
Okay, and that right there will debunk anything that you think FEMA camps are not true.
And also, if you don't think the gunning stage is false flags, I want you to do this.
Operation Northwoods.
Operation Gladio.
Okay, FM 31-20-3.
Dan, Dan, do you want to debate your thoughts or not?
Well, shoot, go ahead.
What do you think we're lying about?
That they plan to kill all these people.
All these innocent Americans in Operation Northwoods.
That they plan to kill all these innocent people with Operation Northwoods.
Is that what you think, Dan?
It's right in their own writings.
What?
It's right in their own writing.
and watch you PDF the file for yourself and read it for yourself.
And that is not true.
This is why you should quit listening to Alex Jones.
I'm not listening to Alex Jones.
Say that's the thing, you won't... You won't?
Yeah, but... Do I see you going on Google challenging us?
Oh, about flying planes into buildings?
And even if it did, no Americans would be killed.
I'm not defending this document, or what they even brought up.
I'm not defending that, but there was nothing there about killing Americans or anybody else.
Nothing there.
Oh, about flying planes into buildings?
That's right, in Operation Northwoods.
So there was nothing about flying planes into buildings?
Yes there was.
Anybody?
I challenge anybody right now.
I challenge you right now.
Go look up the document.
Read it for yourself.
I had to read it three times to actually believe that this was real.
Okay?
I don't want to believe it either.
You think I like doing this?
I challenge you.
Go look for yourself.
That's all I have to say about that.
Well, let's find out here.
What?
You can look it up on the internet, you're not going to find it because there's nothing in there about killing innocent civilians in Operation Northwood.
Oh yeah, flying planes into buildings, not killing people.
Operation Northwood, there's nothing in there about killing innocent Americans to hand.
Flying planes into buildings and not killing people?
There's nothing in there about killing people but flying airplanes into buildings, Dan.
So, please, please.
Be a good person.
I mean, live a normal life.
I would love to live a normal life, okay, but until we take our country back, that's not possible.
Our Founding Fathers, and if you listen to the writings of our Founding Fathers and the Federalist Papers especially, that's why they're never brought up in schools about the Federalist Papers.
Our Founding Fathers strictly warned us of this stuff.
Yeah, but I'm giving you documents.
You're not giving me no documents.
here today because everything I've said to you is fact and you cannot prove it to me to be false.
Yeah, but the thing is I'm giving you documents.
You're not giving me no documents.
You haven't given me one.
And there are no FEMA camps.
You are not going into a FEMA camp.
I am not going into a FEMA death camp.
You are misreading that!
You are misreading that.
Alright, let's go to USA Today.
Okay, let me pull up that article right now.
Let's go to the San Francisco Chronicle while we're at it.
No, let's go.
USA Today.
How Howard Burton was given a contract to build these internment camps.
Dan, Dan, look, Dan, Dan, use your head real quick.
Why does Alex Jones tell you the mainstream media lies all the time, yet you're doing what he does and you're always...
Think about this, Dan.
Think about this.
Think about this, Dan.
Like a cusser and all these crazy ones.
I wasn't feeling bad about making fun of you, but you're a good guy.
And it's been a good time.
I'm sure if I upload this to YouTube.
You know, okay, listen.
I've followed you people for seven years.
say Homeland Security detention camps, how Burton gets a multi-million dollar contract to build them.
This has been announced on USA Today as well and many other publications.
You can Google this right now if you want.
Okay, listen, I've followed you people for seven years.
I know how you operate.
Yeah, but I'm giving you documents.
You really think that FEMA camps don't exist?
They do not.
And you're not going to a FEMA death camp, and neither am I. So there's no FEMA camps in the United States?
Is that what you're saying?
Can you name one person in a FEMA camp?
I can name you a bunch of FEMA camps, or you can go there right now and look for yourself.
Listen, Dan.
Dan, sweetheart.
I've been there.
I've seen them with my own eyes, okay?
You know what I'm saying?
Remember the World Trade Organization protests in 2010?
The hundreds of people rounded up?
Guess where they took them to?
They took them to Sand Point in a tournament camp in San Diego.
It was right on record.
There's three of them in Massachusetts.
I've seen one with my own eyes.
You think you saw a FEMA camp.
Did you see any people in these FEMA camps?
No, I couldn't get close enough.
But we see these kids with our own eyes.
You are wrong, like you were about the bomb drills.
HR645 anybody wants to research that.
And if I'm wrong, which I'm not because that's what the document is.
No, you are wrong, like you were about the bomb drills.
So am I wrong about HR645?
Answer that.
Yes, you're wrong.
I'm wrong about HR645, right?
You're also wrong about the SEMA deathcams, about HR453.
You're wrong about bomb drills.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
I want you to go to, uh... Alright, if I'm wrong, listen to me, okay?
Go to gpo.gov, okay?
HR 645, okay?
The Establishment of Internment Camps.
This was approved.
This is on record.
The White House damn website has this.
Okay.
So, am I wrong now?
Please, uh, people listening out there, I challenge you to do that.
and the dumb right here on the damn government's website i wouldn't even know i don't know what person in jail never mind a fema cap That's a stupid question to ask, really.
That doesn't excuse the fact that they exist when I got the damn government document right here in my face.
January 22nd, hold on.
January 22nd of 2009.
I used to debate Alex Jones until he got scared of me and told me not to call him anymore.
January 22nd, 2009, right here.
And I know you're not going to do it, but I know everybody listening has got to do this.
Again, go to the gpo.gov website, HR 645, January 22, 2009.
in 2009. There was establishing construction of internment camps by Homeland Security.
Oh no, I'm wide awake.
So let me ask you a question.
So that document doesn't exist?
Is that what you're saying?
Oh yeah, I'm sure the document exists, but you don't know how to read it properly.
Oh no, it just says internment camps.
There's somebody in an internment camp!
There's somebody in a FEMA camp!
Damn!
That's not the question, okay?
You were saying that internment camps don't exist.
I just proved to you they do.
And if you all, here's the kicker, yeah.
Go to GoArmy.com, and the National Guard, they were advertising for internment specialties, and it says right out, to house American citizens and POWs, right on the Army, GoArmy.com's website.
And also there's, here's some more, okay?
army document called army regulations 210-35 okay dad listen whatever you believe it's not true there are no people in a deterrent camp I'm not sitting here debating if there is or not I'm debating that these camps exist.
These camps are built, they exist.
I don't know.
Personally, I don't know if there's people in there.
I can't tell you that because I would be lying.
Okay?
I don't know.
I mean, I can't tell you if there's people in there or not.
I really can't.
But I'm just telling you...
I'm just telling you that these camps exist.
I just proved it to you beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Beyond a shadow of a doubt that these camps, Halliburton, they're making researches, they got a multi-billion dollar contract to build these camps by Homeland Security.
This is all on record.
The USA Today reported that.
Yeah, I'm not lying.
This is what they're doing.
You can go to the government's website, the White House's website, and find all the stuff for yourself.
From the Horses Mob.
Don't listen to InfoWars.
Don't listen to any other media.
You go to the White House, okay?
Their own documents from the Horses Mob.
No, I'm just saying, don't listen to me.
I don't want you to listen to me, okay?
I want you to challenge this information.
You go to the whitehouse.gov website, or the .gov website, and you find this information from yourself.
From the horse's mouth, then still deny after that.
I mean, to deny it then, you would have to be Mass asleep.
You know, and Alex says the same thing all the time.
Don't listen to us.
He says, don't listen to us.
You will challenge the information and find out for yourself.
And that's what we're telling you.
I gave you the documents.
H.R.
645, which was passed.
Okay?
Army Regulations 210-35.
Here's the thing for you too.
Alright, if you don't believe false flags exist, it's called FM, which is Army Field Manual, FM 31-20-3.
It teaches high level military how to stage false flag attacks.
That's right in the military's website.
Right from the horse's mouth.
So it's not from Alex Jones, it's not from Dan Bodondi, it's not from Infowars, or any other media source.
It's from the United States government.
Okay, I have to concede, you owned me there.
What's our biggest issue?
Well, the first responders, for one.
And I know, personally, a first responder.
And the first responders, as you know, you should know, the 10th year anniversary, the first responders were not welcome to the 10th year anniversary ceremony.
And they've been under scrutiny by the feds for the last 10, 12 years now, whatever.
And the first responders, that, you know, who do you think started the 9-11 Truth Commission?
It wasn't conspiracy theorists.
It was the New York firefighters, the ambulance people who seen the bombs in the building.
They seen the explosions?
Absolutely.
Yes, the firefighters came out to say that.
The police came out to say that.
They're the ones who started the 9-11 Truth Commission.
If you research the roots of it, it was started by some of the first responders.
And right now, on record, the 6 out of 10 of the 9-11 Commission reporters all now don't believe in official reports.
And you think, let me ask you a question, you think jet fuel melted the steel in those buildings?
No.
When steel, um, jet fuel, I'm a pilot, okay?
I've been in the aviation business for...
I've been in the aviation business for over 10 years, okay?
And, um, jet fuel only burns at a maximum of 1,500 degrees.
And when you put it at 1,500, it doesn't even weaken steel.
It doesn't even touch it.
To melt steel, you need over 3,000 degrees.
And plus, when you put a steel structure up, they spray a fire-retardant foam on the steel, which increases the temperature to almost 4,000 degrees.
And jet fuel burns at a maximum of 30 seconds of 1500 degrees.
Not even enough to weaken or even melt steel.
No, not 1500.
Anybody that knows steel, that's worked in the steel, I mean, we interview people from steel plants, I know them.
No, and it's not true, because when I was doing the practice at the fire department in the airport, every year we had to take the test.
They used steel beams, curved steel beams, to put the jet fuel on, they ignited it, and we had to learn how to extinguish the fire.
No, I'm not lying.
You could call... Why don't you call anybody that works in the fire department that teaches these classes.
They used a piece of steel, a dent piece at that, to make the jet fuel.
And I had to use a fire extinguisher and know how to put it out.
And the different techniques.
Did they use silent explosives or was it thermite?
No, it was... I mean, we definitely know it was thermite.
I mean, that's... I mean, you could see that.
The building was just melting down.
No, it's not.
But there was explosives in the foundations of the building.
And also, how do you explain Building 7?
Right?
Why do you think Building 7 is not mentioned in the official report?
And if you watch the videos, not from my mouth, watch the videos, the hundreds of home videos and what not.
5 minutes telling people what.
Get back, they're gonna blow the building.
Do you hear that?
The building is about to blow up.
We'll be back.
Alright guys?
We are walking back to the building.
Larry Silverstein on TV said, you know what, we suffered much loss, he's the owner of the complex, we suffered enough loss, we decide to pull Building 7.
I remember getting a call from the fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were going to be able to contain the fire.
I said, you know, we've had such terrible loss of life.
Maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.
And they made that decision to pull it.
And then we watched the building collapse.
And anybody in the devil's team knows it's exposed.
Silverstein never said that.
Maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.
Yes he did.
And I... You could chop out...
Yes he did.
No he did not.
Yes he did.
You're on your computer now.
Why don't you go play it.
Type in Larry Silverstein admits blowing up Building 7.
Go ahead.
I challenge anybody right now.
I will pay you.
I will pay you.
Okay?
A thousand dollars.
Okay?
If he did not say that.
You go and pull it up right now.
Anybody can go to YouTube or any source.
Whatever you want to go to.
Larry Silverstein admits blowing up Building 7.
Maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.
No, type it in, go ahead.
Oh, listen, you tell me the quote you just said for a thousand dollars.
He said, we suffered much loss and we decided to pull Building 7.
I said, you know, we've had such a terrible loss of life.
Maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.
You suffered a bunch of loss and we decided to pull Building 7?
Yep.
No, you didn't, Dan.
Alright, no problem, you're right, because even though the TV said it.
I said, you know, we've had such a terrible loss of life.
Maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.
You know, I'm making this stuff up.
I'm making this stuff up, you know what I mean?
Even though it was live on CNN, when I interviewed FEMA, because after the incident Tuesday night, and I interviewed FEMA, you know, these guys are doing such a great job, and FEMA says, oh yeah, we were very prepared for this, we got here late last night.
Search and rescue, it's part of FEMA.
To be honest with you, we arrived on late Monday night and went into action on Tuesday morning.
Not until today did we get a full opportunity to work the entire site other than the spot of church and day to which we would deploy You know No, FEMA admitted they were there the night before I On National Live TV and people just overlooked that.
BBC reported Tower 7 coming down live on the air.
This is all over the internet.
Now, more on the latest building collapse in New York.
You might have heard a few moments ago I was talking about the Salomon Brothers building collapsing.
And indeed it has.
Apparently that's only a few hundred yards away from where the World Trade Center towers were.
And it seems that this was not a result of a new attack.
It was because the building had been weakened during this morning's attacks.
We'll probably find out more now about that from our correspondent, Jane Stanley.
Jane, what more can you tell us about the Salomon Brothers building and its collapse?
Well, only really what you already know.
Details are very, very sketchy.
There's almost a sense downtown in New York, behind me, down by the World Trade Centers, of just an area completely closed off as the rescue workers try to do their job.
Live on the air, Tower 7 collapses, blah, blah, blah.
It's still up in the background.
And all of a sudden they go to a fuzzy transmission when they realize that Tower 7 was still up and they reported it too soon.
There's nothing about a fuzzy transmission.
Oh, there is!
Perhaps on the radio earlier today, were completely flabbergasted by it and just couldn't comprehend it.
I mean, it almost sounded too far-fetched.
I was wondering what it felt like for you being in Manhattan.
Well, unfortunately, I think we've lost the line with Jane Stanley in Manhattan.
I researched it all, Dan.
- I've researched it all day.
- No, I know you're recording this, so, you know, when you calm down, okay, when you calm down, and I want you to, I challenge you, okay, to research everything I said.
All this stuff is on record, it's all documented.
- I've researched it all day.
- No, you did not, because it's on record.
Hey, you're talking like Alex now.
I wish to God this wasn't... And you talk just like Alex Jones, Dan.
from all the sources saying the stuff.
I mean, you can't make the stuff up.
I mean, I wish to God that...
I wish to God that the stuff wasn't real.
Okay, I wish...
You're talking like Alex now.
I wish to God this wasn't...
And you talk just like Alex Jones, Dan.
You are like so deep into him.
No, because we question our reality.
We question our illegitimate government.
He's your God, and he's ruined your life.
The only reason you don't have your family or your friends, Dan, is Alex Jones.
Alex Jones is a great friend of mine.
I love that guy.
My God is Jesus Christ.
That's my God.
That's the person I serve.
I'm just saying, man, like... I'm just saying, why don't you challenge this information, man?
That's all I'm asking you.
Challenge these people.
I'll send you all the documents, if you want.
I'll give you the links.
I'll give you everything you need.
Okay?
I challenge you.
Okay?
I've been here for seven years.
Yeah, but have you done the research?
Have you done the research?
Have you done the research?
Yes, I've done the research.
Yeah, if you've done the research, then you would know.
It's plain sight.
I mean, a kid could understand this.
Hey look man, plain sight.
That's another Alex Jones catchphrase.
No, it's just common sense.
You know, it's common sense.
It's right there in your face, and you don't even see it.
Yeah, they lie all the time.
on national TV he said Iraq has weapons of mass destruction then he went back as the Dick Cheney said we never said that even though Larry King says yes you did it's right here I never said that you know we gave them those weapons of mass destruction you know whatever weapons they have you know it's just like and you know this whole bin Laden thing it's all It's all a hoax.
They invited work for the CIA in the 1980s as Timothy Osmond.
That's on record.
The CIA funded...
They fund Al-Qaeda.
They created Al-Qaeda.
Did you call the Boston Marathon press conferences to be, like, put on hiatus?
No, but there was a false flag.
The FBI was definitely involved with that.
No doubt...
Hold on.
Listen, no, no.
There were the press conferences.
The UN Infowars calls, like, press conferences to be put on hold.
They had to change their stories.
Absolutely, they did.
They were going to go after the Patriot movement.
Monday night, their goal, their number one goal, that's why they had their first suspect with the beard, they named my friend Dave Kopass, okay?
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on!
Okay, my friend Dave Kopacz, okay?
He's a huge patriot movement leader in the state of Massachusetts.
They called him Monday, the FBI.
They called him Monday, asked him where he was, and they wanted to meet up with him.
They were gonna set him up as Apache, but that first guy you've seen all over the news with the beard that everybody forgot about...
They were going to set him up as a Patsy and go after the Patriot groups.
But thanks to what we did, we stopped them from doing that.
And they had to go to Plan B with these two innocent Czechoslovakian kids that had nothing to do with the bombing.
They were set up as Patsy's.
And after they... Listen, why do you think they just shouldn't turn themselves up?
Wait a second, here we are, we didn't do it.
Why do you think they didn't just do that?
Would you?
You?
No, would you if you... And the thing is, here's common sense.
Just say, all right? - Yeah, wait a second.
You got my pictures all over the freaking country and the nation.
Hold on a second.
I did not do this.
I wouldn't go around throwing bombs to people and stupid and innocent cop upside us back in the head.
- No, let me ask you this, okay?
If you just blew up the Boston Marathon, now, the next day, where's the place you want to be?
Far away from Boston as you can.
You wouldn't be the next town in Watertown over.
You know what I mean?
Not a climber of that significance, no.
If you just pull up...
If you pulled off a massive attack like that, you know, that hit world news, you'd be far away from the state of Massachusetts as possibly can.
You'd be in another country.
I know, if I was to do something like that, I would be going out of New England, period.
If you're that sick and twisted, you would pull off a stunt like that, you'd probably think you're super.
Alright, why don't you watch the video footage, right?
Now, after the bombs went off, you see the two suspects leaving the area, and guess what?
They still had their backpacks on, and the 19-year-old kid had a white backpack.
Now, everybody could agree right now, the backpacks that blew up were black vinyl blackpacks with a white little patch on the back.
The same backpacks those contractors in the khaki pants and the khaki boots were seen with.
You're making me mad now, Dan.
You're going after innocent people and making them complicit in this heinous, freaking... These guys were seen on scene.
We got pictures and video of them all over the roofs.
They were given police orders.
They were caught in the whole event.
This is a false flag attack.
Okay, Dan.
I'm trying to help you.
No, the thing is, if you show...
I'm done.
Well, hold on a minute.
If you show me documents... I'll do this later after I put this on the internet and make fun of you.
You can do whatever you want, but I'm asking you a question again, alright?
If you show me...
I can't ask the real quick, Bubs.
If you show me documents, okay?
You show me stuff to refute and the documents are legit and all that, hell, I'll retract what I was wrong on.
But so far, you haven't provided one document.
I gave you scores, Doc.
Those motherfuckers putting those fucking backpacks there.
It's going to come out.
I 100% guarantee you.
I will bet you this.
I will give you $3,000.
You're giving me $3,000.
This time, bitch.
I just got back up.
$3,000.
$3,000 to $300, man.
It will come out in trial, and it will be broadcast for the world to see.
Oh, absolutely, you're right, it's going to come out that way.
You think it's going to come out any other way?
You think they're going to say, oh yeah, we did it?
They're not DC suspects?
The video will come out with those motherfuckers putting that shit on the sidewalk, okay?
Well, there's no video of it right now.
You gotta remember what happened.
What happened last year.
What happened in Boston.
Let me ask you a question.
What happened in Boston last year?
Homeland Security got granted a giant contract, 50 million dollars, to put cameras all over the city of Boston.
Now this is the United States freaking government you're talking about.
They could pinpoint an ant from space on ground.
Well, I don't know what you're talking about, but man, you're a cheetah.
This is all on video.
People seeing us.
Home videos everywhere.
This is the 21st century.
Everybody's got video cameras now.
Well, I don't know what you're talking about, but Dan, you're a cutie pie.
I love you.
It was good talking to you.
You too, man.
I'm asking you to do the investigation.
God bless you.
Sorry you had to go do that stuff with the police in front of your kids and all that.
My heart goes out to you, man.
I'm just asking you to do the... I'll send you the links, okay?
You can do it to Will with them, but I'm just showing you the door.
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