DEBRIEFED - Chris Ramsay - GIANT UAP in The Ocean? - 4CHAN Whistleblower pt 1 + NRO Patch Review - DEBRIEFED Ep. 11
Aired: 2024-11-01
Duration: 01:05:52


=== UAP News and Sighting Report (05:07) ===

[00:00:02]  I'm calling to report a sighting that I had with a friend of mine.
[00:00:05]  I actually just watched, got done watching episode six of Debrief.
[00:00:10]  So I was outside with my son.
[00:00:12]  He actually got my attention and he pointed up to the sky and he said, hey, daddy, what's that?
[00:00:18]  And so I looked up and I saw there's this bright streaking light going across the sky, extremely fast, extremely brighter than everything else around it.
[00:00:29]  I call it the goldfish UFO because it looks like a goldfish.
[00:00:38]  Folks, welcome back to another episode of Debriefed.
[00:00:40]  My name is Chris Ramsey.
[00:00:42]  Some of you may know me for my puzzle solving, others may know me for my magic, and none of you know me for the guy who shows up to your local barbershop because clearly I need a haircut.
[00:00:53]  In Debriefed, we cover a range of topics, namely, especially when we don't have any guests, I like to dive into the UAP subject.
[00:00:59]  Now, recently we did tease you a little bit with some patches that we had, and we're going to be covering one of those patches today, namely the NROL 38.
[00:01:10]  This patch here, very sus looking patch, if I do say so myself.
[00:01:14]  We're going to get into that.
[00:01:15]  We're also going to start a three part series in reading through the entire QA from this alleged whistleblower that came out about a year and a half ago on 4chan.
[00:01:25]  This is deep UAP lore.
[00:01:27]  And what's interesting is that a lot of things that were said a year and a half ago are now coming true.
[00:01:32]  And we're going to read through the entire thing together in three parts.
[00:01:35]  I'll give you the first line here I have intimate knowledge of what the U.S. currently knows about UFOs minus the last two years.
[00:01:41]  This man claims to be a whistleblower.
[00:01:44]  From a crash, UFO crash retrieval program within the US government.
[00:01:49]  And something he said's been haunting me for quite a while.
[00:01:52]  He says, I'm not here to convince anyone.
[00:01:54]  You'll notice yourself coming back to things I've said over time on your own as understanding increases.
[00:02:00]  And folks, that's exactly what I've noticed.
[00:02:03]  Folks, I wanna encourage you to go ahead and leave a like, subscribe, check us out on all the platforms, Patreon for extra content.
[00:02:11]  And we also just launched YouTube memberships.
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[00:02:27]  Without any further ado, let's get into it.
[00:02:28]  What we're going to start with today is just a little bit of UAP news.
[00:02:31]  There isn't much going on as everyone is preparing themselves for the November 13th congressional hearing of UAP.
[00:02:39]  Now, a big piece of news is that this morning I woke up to a tweet.
[00:02:42]  Jeremy Corbell was actually featured on NBC.
[00:02:45]  Now, this is the first time that I've seen an actual credible news source, and I say credible, but an actual mainstream news source talk about the UAP hearing that is coming up.
[00:02:55]  The only other place that I've heard it from is News Nation, who frequently covers the UAP topic.
[00:03:00]  But it was nice to see mainstream getting involved, even though, you know.
[00:03:05]  You know how we feel about mainstream media here on YouTube.
[00:03:08]  Regardless, it was very good to see a familiar face on television talking about this very important congressional hearing that is happening.
[00:03:15]  And I've had a hard time even finding any information on it on the Congress website.
[00:03:21]  I don't know if you guys can link me to it, but is it going to happen?
[00:03:24]  Is it not going to happen?
[00:03:26]  I hope it happens, but it's going down in less than two weeks.
[00:03:30]  Recently, as well, the New Paradigm Institute, which is sort of a conglomerate of UFO researching groups around the world that sort of came together on October 20th, which should have been the due date for any disclosure the United States government had to cough up.
[00:03:48]  But apparently, they pushed that due date back to end of December 2025.
[00:03:52]  Go figure.
[00:03:53]  During that time, you had folks like Lou Elizondo, Ross Coulthard, and Danny Sheehan speak about different topics within the UAP sphere that we should be aware of.
[00:04:03]  And Danny Sheehan actually dropped some bombs.
[00:04:06]  They, in fact, have bases.
[00:04:08]  Here on our planet, many of which are located high in the desolate areas in the mountains where very few people ever go.
[00:04:17]  And beneath the sea, there are, there's a major base in the Pacific that we're virtually certain exists off Baja, between Baja and Guadalupe Island, potentially beneath the ocean floor.
[00:04:34]  This has been monitored.
[00:04:36]  We have hundreds of videos of the vehicles coming and going from that location and plunging into the sea and going down into and coming from this base.
[00:04:48]  Apparently, there's an underwater base below the ocean floor, which has seen hundreds of incursions by these UAP coming in and out of water off the coast of Baja, Mexico, in between Baja and Guadalupe.
[00:05:00]  Now, that's a crazy claim without any evidence, I'll be honest, but very interesting nonetheless, especially once we get into what the whistleblower was saying a year and a half ago.

=== The Secret Underwater Rocket Base (04:08) ===

[00:05:09]  Put a pin in that.
[00:05:11]  But it is nice to know that people are coming forward in troves to talk about the UAP subject, to at least desensitize it to the masses.
[00:05:19]  I thought that was nice.
[00:05:20]  One thing that I did want to touch base on was can we just please collectively stop trying to dress like aliens?
[00:05:29]  You know, if you dress like a Pleiadian, people are not going to take you that seriously when you're talking about Pleiadians.
[00:05:35]  That's all I'm saying.
[00:05:36]  I'll leave it at that.
[00:05:37]  Let me know your thoughts.
[00:05:38]  All right, folks, it's time to review one of these NROL patches, namely this one, the NROL 38.
[00:05:45]  And we're going to go piece by piece here.
[00:05:48]  Drake launch.
[00:05:49]  Okay.
[00:05:49]  What you're looking at here, this is actually the mission patch.
[00:05:55]  This isn't the patch that was used on the rocket.
[00:05:57]  This is the patch that was used on the rocket or the emblem that was slapped on this giant rocket sending, you know, a satellite out into space.
[00:06:05]  Both differ and both have their own symbology or symbolism attached to them.
[00:06:10]  And we're going to go through everything to try and clear things up.
[00:06:12]  Now, some of it may be mystical, some of it may just be mundane, but I'm going to give you all the facts to these patches right now.
[00:06:19]  First off, let's just Talk about the NRO for a second.
[00:06:23]  This was founded in 1961.
[00:06:25]  Pre Cold War, we wanted to find a way to spy on the Russians and just basically dominate the information sector of the world.
[00:06:37]  And it wasn't until 1990 that the NRO, as an organization within the government, was declassified.
[00:06:45]  Think about that.
[00:06:47]  For almost 30 years, they functioned as a Completely secret and classified program within the government.
[00:06:59]  So, next time you think that, you know, these projects, no, that's just conspiracy theory.
[00:07:03]  Like 30 years is a long time to cover something up and have no one know about it, especially rockets, which is why eventually they unclassified it because they even said themselves it's really hard to hide rockets.
[00:07:16]  And ever since then, they've been spying on everything.
[00:07:19]  Okay, let's look at the mission patch first.
[00:07:22]  So, NROL 38, it's the 38th mission.
[00:07:25]  AV stands for Atlas.
[00:07:27]  That is the type of rocket, which I don't think they launch anymore, but that was the type of rocket.
[00:07:32]  V is five, so it's the Atlas V. And this is the 23rd launch.
[00:07:37]  You also have ULA, which stands for United Launch Alliance.
[00:07:41]  And this was formed in 2006 by Boeing Defense and Lockheed Martin Space.
[00:07:49]  They came together to create this sort of supergiant of space tech.
[00:07:54]  Just saying.
[00:07:56]  Just saying.
[00:07:58]  I'm not going to grab my tinfoil hat quite yet, but yeah, just saying.
[00:08:03]  By the way, the ULA, their biggest customer is the DOD, obviously NASA as well, but yeah, you don't have to look very far to understand that these private corporations handle giant government contracts and have been doing so for quite a while.
[00:08:20]  45SW is the 45th Space Wing.
[00:08:24]  This was a wing of the Air Force that dealt with.
[00:08:28]  Space, essentially, especially the ones at Cape Canaveral, but in 2020 became Space Launch Delta, a part of Space Force, no longer part of the Air Force.
[00:08:39]  And the LR, I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure it stands for Launch Range.
[00:08:42]  And it was launched the 20th of June in 2012.
[00:08:46]  So these patches are designed by the crew generally.
[00:08:50]  And I guess sometimes some of these illustrations are subcontracted to illustrators, which is really interesting.
[00:08:56]  If you're an illustrator out there, I mean, you've probably signed an NDA, but give us a wink.
[00:09:00]  Let us know that you worked on one of these patches.
[00:09:02]  That would be cool.
[00:09:03]  I think it's just funny that somewhere an illustrator had a conversation with a government official who was like, Yeah, so our vision is we want the Egyptian god of death hovering over the earth with one of our rockets launching off into space.
[00:09:15]  Kind of looks like it's projecting from his groin.

=== Draco Constellation and Anubis Links (05:47) ===

[00:09:18]  The Egyptian god of death, he was the one who would weigh your heart versus a feather to see if you would be accepted into the afterlife.
[00:09:24]  I suppose that that could represent some type of protection or dominion over life and death.
[00:09:31]  Not exactly sure.
[00:09:33]  Your guess is as good as mine.
[00:09:34]  He does have five stars around his neck, which isn't something you normally find depicted on Anubis.
[00:09:39]  So I don't know what that's about.
[00:09:40]  If you have any clues as to what that might be, let us know in the comments.
[00:09:47]  And then there's that sort of red emblem, which I feel is like a ULA logo.
[00:09:54]  It kind of looks like one of those launch platforms from ULA.
[00:09:58]  That's my best guess, but it is featured on multiple patches.
[00:10:01]  Here's from the NRO's website they have a pictorial history, a PDF.
[00:10:07]  Which I'll link below, which has all of the patches.
[00:10:09]  And they have a brief description, not on the mission patch that people would wear, but on the next one that we're going to look at that's attached to this mission.
[00:10:19]  So, we have this triangle within which we have this three headed dragon looking like it's kind of clawing at and licking the earth.
[00:10:32]  And then the word Drake right over it, not the wrapper, the dragon.
[00:10:37]  And then underneath we have Non Moriaris Bello, which is Old Latin and it translates into Thou Shalt Not Die in Battle.
[00:10:46]  Okay.
[00:10:47]  Very normal things to have on a government patch, by the way.
[00:10:51]  But here's the description that the government gives us as to why they chose all of this.
[00:10:58]  Okay.
[00:10:58]  So the description says the namesake Drake for NROL 38 is rooted in Greek mythology, Old English, and honors a former NRO employee who lost a valiant fight against cancer.
[00:11:10]  That may explain the Anubis connection here, quite frankly.
[00:11:15]  Drake or Fire Drake comes from the Old English for dragon.
[00:11:18]  In Greek mythology, there is a legend of the Draco or three headed dragon.
[00:11:23]  The three headed dragon represents the NROL's.
[00:11:25]  38th strength, power, and fortitude.
[00:11:28]  Okay.
[00:11:29]  We'll get into some more of the meaning of this afterwards.
[00:11:33]  Means, yeah, thou shalt not die in battle.
[00:11:35]  This statement is derived from the Greek myth of the dragon Draco.
[00:11:38]  When a Greek king asked the oracle if he could be successful in war, he responded, win, lose, you will not die in battle.
[00:11:45]  The king was victorious in his campaign, only to be slain by an assassin on the way home.
[00:11:50]  Borrowing from the latter portion of the oracle's statement, it is an assurance to all Americans who battle out.
[00:11:56]  Adversaries at home and abroad, we will carry out our mission and keep our country safe.
[00:12:01]  Okay.
[00:12:02]  Very nice.
[00:12:03]  So that's what they tell us.
[00:12:04]  Let's look a little bit deeper now.
[00:12:06]  This, folks, is a poster, an official poster that was put up of the launch, NROL 38 launch of the Atlas V. Once again, has that quote translated has the rocket blasting off from Earth, very normal.
[00:12:23]  Has the Earth also very normal?
[00:12:26]  Has Snakeskin wrapping around the corners of the poster.
[00:12:32]  Super normal, nothing to see here.
[00:12:35]  And the O is also a triangle made of snakeskin.
[00:12:40]  Very normal indeed.
[00:12:42]  And then there is a constellation, this constellation being Draco, the Draco Draconis constellation.
[00:12:50]  Although this does look like the Draco constellation, it does seem like there are more stars in this specific constellation.
[00:12:57]  So, this constellation, what is interesting and what got me into being interested in this was this program, Immaculate Constellation.
[00:13:06]  Which is some type of secret program that maybe or maybe not we will hear about, or maybe we won't, or maybe we will.
[00:13:12]  I don't know.
[00:13:12]  We'll see on November 13th.
[00:13:14]  But I found it interesting because a lot of these patches featured constellations.
[00:13:18]  Now, although this patch did not feature any constellations, the poster associated to the patch, well, it sure did.
[00:13:26]  And that is the Draco constellation with the snake skin or the reptile skin.
[00:13:32]  By the way, make all the reptilian connections you want to make during this.
[00:13:36]  I'm not going to make them for you.
[00:13:37]  You can go ahead and get down that rabbit hole.
[00:13:40]  That's not what I'm here for.
[00:13:42]  But be my guest, please.
[00:13:43]  So, this constellation actually stems from Hercules and his 12 trials.
[00:13:48]  To his 11th trial, Hercules was ordered to go and take the apples, the golden apples, out of the Hesperides garden, guarded by a snake like dragon.
[00:14:01]  Okay, hold on.
[00:14:03]  An apple, a garden, guarded by a snake.
[00:14:08]  Sounds a lot like another story we've heard before, but this is in Greek mythology.
[00:14:13]  So, the golden apples of Asperity's garden, it was guarded by a ladon or ladon.
[00:14:18]  I'm not exactly sure how to pronounce that, but it was a dragon serpent with multiple heads, sometimes three, sometimes a hundred.
[00:14:26]  Those apples belonged to Hera.
[00:14:29]  So, Hercules then shot this dragon with his arrows, his poisoned arrows, and retrieved the apples, completing one of these tasks.
[00:14:39]  Hera was mourning.
[00:14:40]  She was so sad by the death of this dragon.
[00:14:42]  She mourned it by.
[00:14:44]  Putting it up into the stars as a constellation we now know as Draco.
[00:14:48]  So, about 5,000 years ago, 3,000 BC, the Alpha Draconis, one of the stars in the Draco constellation, was actually used as the pole star.
[00:14:58]  So, it was the North Star before the precession of the Earth.
[00:15:03]  Now it is Polaris.

=== Ancient Stars and Dragon Mythos (14:29) ===

[00:15:05]  You learn something new every day.
[00:15:07]  I learned all this just researching about this constellation, which is really interesting.
[00:15:12]  So, there you have it.
[00:15:13]  That is basically my deep dive into this pat.
[00:15:16]  Let me know what you guys think, and is there anything that I missed during this that maybe you can fill me in on?
[00:15:22]  I would love to hear your thoughts.
[00:15:23]  And let me know if you want another one of these.
[00:15:25]  And during the next debrief, maybe we'll tackle a completely different and insane looking patch that your tax dollars have paid for.
[00:15:36]  Also, if you want your own, your very own Area 52 patch, you can pick this up.
[00:15:41]  These are iron on, right?
[00:15:42]  So you can just take an iron, iron it onto whatever shirt, jacket, or t shirt, or hat you want to iron it onto.
[00:15:48]  And at the same time, you support us here at Area 52, and we appreciate that.
[00:15:51]  Strap yourselves in, grab yourself a coffee, and let's get into it.
[00:15:55]  So, I'm going to read a lot of this, and then we're just going to kind of talk about it.
[00:15:58]  I haven't prepared anything for this.
[00:16:00]  This will come out the way that it comes out, but I did receive some of you requested to look this over after the exposure of that top secret program.
[00:16:11]  A lot of you said go back and look at that document, which I did, and I think it's very interesting.
[00:16:16]  So, how 4chan works essentially, and how this sort of Ask Me Anything works, is that somebody will ask a question and he will answer it.
[00:16:24]  When someone asks a question multiple times, he might be referring to the question that was presented previously.
[00:16:32]  Not necessarily right before.
[00:16:34]  So it might be a little confusing at some points, but I'll try to keep it clear for you.
[00:16:37]  It begins like this I have intimate knowledge of what the U.S. currently knows about UFOs minus the last two years.
[00:16:45]  And the reason for that is allegedly this person no longer works there because he has cancer.
[00:16:52]  And that's something I think liver cancer he mentions towards the end of this.
[00:16:55]  So we'll put that in there at the top.
[00:16:57]  He says UFOs are primarily unmanned drones, UFOs are built to spec each time they are deployed.
[00:17:04]  UFOs are created by a mobile construction facility that hides in the ocean.
[00:17:10]  The construction facility destroys anything that comes close to it and will disappear for days when approached aggressively.
[00:17:16]  U.S. believes the facility has been active on Earth for at least 100 years or much longer.
[00:17:23]  And he does acknowledge that it probably is much longer.
[00:17:27]  And the reason for that is because there are depictions of this very base that he's referring to in.
[00:17:36]  Like drawings and depictions of the past, like hundreds of years ago.
[00:17:40]  He starts by saying, and I assume he's referring to the program, but he says it doesn't officially exist, and I won't use the internal name on here either.
[00:17:50]  Someone asks, Amuamua?
[00:17:53]  No.
[00:17:54]  Someone asks, Is there a working theory on the origins?
[00:17:58]  If so, care to elaborate?
[00:18:00]  Quite a bit, but we think the construction facility has been around since at least 4000 BC.
[00:18:04]  See sightingsslash paintings from the early eras of history.
[00:18:08]  He does later mention that some of these look like burgers and others look like hammers.
[00:18:16]  So I don't know if maybe we'll take a look into past paintings to see if we can see any flying burgers.
[00:18:24]  I don't know.
[00:18:25]  Has any form of intelligible communication been established?
[00:18:29]  Yes.
[00:18:30]  It also depends on your viewpoint.
[00:18:31]  They mostly want very little to do with us until we start to talk about war and nuclear options.
[00:18:36]  It's one of the reasons why you don't see them often, why you do see them often at critical events.
[00:18:41]  This is something obviously echoed throughout the UFO community.
[00:18:43]  It's been echoed since they've been doing nuclear tests.
[00:18:46]  Is that yes, they do show up at these nuclear test sites, but they also show up during, like, the meltdown in Japan of the nuclear reactor and other notable natural disasters.
[00:19:01]  Do they know who or what is creating these crafts?
[00:19:04]  Yes.
[00:19:04]  As mentioned earlier, the mobile construction unit is responsible for their deployment and construction.
[00:19:10]  Any potential that they are made by a higher branch of the U.S. government?
[00:19:14]  He answers absolutely not.
[00:19:18]  What allows them to fly so fast?
[00:19:19]  What technology?
[00:19:21]  He says gravity manipulation and the materials they are constructed from.
[00:19:25]  Now, that is really interesting.
[00:19:26]  That's something we have not really heard before.
[00:19:28]  We've heard of the gravity manipulation.
[00:19:30]  Obviously, look at Bob Lazari, look at many other work like what Hal Putoff is doing.
[00:19:36]  What was mentioned recently, which I thought was interesting in Lou Elizondo's book, he was talking about the skin of the craft, something to do with the skin of the craft being part of the technology.
[00:19:48]  And, you know, maybe this has something to do with it.
[00:19:51]  He says, We think the government construction unit is driven by AI.
[00:19:56]  The response time to threats is almost instant and usually very calculated and well thought out.
[00:20:00]  Okay, so some type of AI is controlling this.
[00:20:05]  He says, You should all pay attention to this.
[00:20:07]  The majority of UFOs, as I mentioned previously, are built to spec and purpose.
[00:20:14]  This is why they are always different sizes.
[00:20:16]  The contents and equipment usually mimic the intended purposes, too, meaning.
[00:20:21]  They are built individually for the specific mission that they are launched for and then deployed.
[00:20:27]  They're built and deployed for the respective missions.
[00:20:32]  Is it related to that one under the rock in that one Scandinavian country, the one that deploys within tectonic spaces?
[00:20:41]  No.
[00:20:42]  This one almost never leaves the Bermuda Triangle.
[00:20:46]  So now we have some type of, as I mentioned before, with Danny Sheehan mentioning, in between Guadeloupe and Baja.
[00:20:55]  Mexico, you have some type of underwater base, which he says, maybe construction facility, who knows.
[00:21:03]  And now we have this one in the Bermuda Triangle, which would explain a lot of the wild stuff that happens in the Bermuda Triangle.
[00:21:11]  Okay.
[00:21:12]  Someone says, bullshit.
[00:21:14]  Governments have, and have had for a while, advanced anti gravity crafts.
[00:21:17]  He says, you asked if the particular UFOs we study are the results of a foreign government, not if governments have shittier versions.
[00:21:26]  Speed alone tells us what we are looking at.
[00:21:29]  Sorry for the expletives.
[00:21:31]  This is uncensored.
[00:21:32]  Do UAPs return back to the manufacturing unit?
[00:21:35]  Yes.
[00:21:36]  Some come in and leave the planet, but very rarely.
[00:21:39]  Usually the same number that comes in goes out unless special circumstances arise.
[00:21:44]  It feels more like a carrier, but with construction capability.
[00:21:48]  Okay, and I think he touches on this a little bit later as well.
[00:21:51]  What are the purposes of the UAPs?
[00:21:53]  Surveillance of humans?
[00:21:55]  The U.S. believes they are not here to harm us.
[00:21:58]  They only seem interested in us once they realize we are destroying things.
[00:22:03]  Around us, including each other.
[00:22:06]  Again, this is very on par for them showing up.
[00:22:10]  One of the officials in charge said something that stuck with me.
[00:22:14]  They act like keepers of a zoo, uninterested in the daily life of the wildlife until there's a problem.
[00:22:20]  Now, that stuck out to me.
[00:22:21]  You're mainly there to make sure they're not destroying the place and that they're well fed and taken care of and not killing each other.
[00:22:26]  That's kind of, I think, what he's saying here.
[00:22:30]  Anyways, that's what they've deduced.
[00:22:33]  Someone says, I can approach that facility without being attacked.
[00:22:36]  And he writes, LOL.
[00:22:38]  Funny that he says LOL.
[00:22:40]  Um, The last unit we saw approach the facility didn't even have time to communicate they were being attacked before it was over.
[00:22:47]  One thing I will say here's maybe a clue onto the validity of this, but he does use LOL.
[00:22:54]  Now, I realize that at this point he might have been out of the program for two years, but I think it is common knowledge, or at least what was imparted to me, was that when you're within the confines of a secret organization within the government, you're not allowed to have Facebook.
[00:23:16]  That makes total sense to me.
[00:23:17]  You're not allowed to have even like a hidden profile on Instagram or LinkedIn.
[00:23:24]  You are invisible.
[00:23:25]  And that's how you live your life and you sign a contract for that.
[00:23:28]  You become invisible.
[00:23:28]  You're not watching this video.
[00:23:31]  That's just the way it is.
[00:23:32]  You're told to stay away.
[00:23:34]  Now, for somebody to use LOL and be familiar with 4chan, I mean, maybe in the last two years, this guy got caught up to speed on what the internet was.
[00:23:42]  But for me, that's a little bit of a red flag.
[00:23:45]  I don't know.
[00:23:46]  Maybe I'm wrong.
[00:23:49]  I call it like I see it.
[00:23:50]  Somebody says, What's buried under the Mesa on Skinwalker Ranch?
[00:23:53]  Is that show even legitimate?
[00:23:54]  It seems like some of the most legitimate research on anything paranormal that I've ever seen in my life, and I'm very curious about what they seem to be finding.
[00:24:01]  He says, No idea.
[00:24:02]  That project, if any, is likely kept separate.
[00:24:05]  There were two rare elements found fused together that were under the Mesa, and I'm very curious what's going on there.
[00:24:11]  He says, No idea about that either.
[00:24:12]  These crafts we recover are built with numerous elements, some aren't even obtainable here.
[00:24:18]  Okay, I'm not going to read that.
[00:24:20]  Maybe this podcast is a little bit censored.
[00:24:23]  You can read it for yourself.
[00:24:25]  I'll leave the link.
[00:24:25]  Someone wrote, Are they friends?
[00:24:28]  He writes, They cut their losses when crashes are recovered.
[00:24:32]  Same with personnel.
[00:24:32]  Zookeepers aren't friends with the animals.
[00:24:35]  Maybe some zookeepers are friends with animals.
[00:24:41]  Just saying.
[00:24:42]  Someone says Do you know if the entities behind the UFOs are native to the Earth, like an older civilization, breakaway civilization, or a civilization of humans that escaped a previous cycle of cataclysm due to their advanced tech?
[00:24:55]  It's a great question.
[00:24:56]  He says Limited expertise since my role is more craftslash analysis.
[00:25:01]  US believes they are foreign to our world.
[00:25:03]  A previous cataclysm could make sense.
[00:25:05]  They also show up in times of strife, such as natural events.
[00:25:09]  Again, he's really bringing home this idea of they show up when things go wrong.
[00:25:16]  He's like, we see them deploy quite a bit when things go wrong.
[00:25:18]  Also, I think the other guy who was talking about approaching the area without being attacked is a remote viewer.
[00:25:24]  Interesting.
[00:25:25]  He said, I lurked on other boards, but haven't really been into this.
[00:25:28]  I was comfortable with the answers I had, I wasn't aware that was a thing on here.
[00:25:33]  There were rumors among my coworkers that they had psionic abilities, but honestly, it rarely comes up in conversation.
[00:25:40]  In conversation, give it a shot?
[00:25:42]  Have you ever tried sending in a raft of hippies?
[00:25:45]  The AI may not recognize them as a threat.
[00:25:48]  Just kidding.
[00:25:49]  He said, based on previous disappearances and acts of hostility, we believe the construction facility or the carrier has learned what is and what isn't hostile.
[00:26:00]  Usually it will just move away or stay deep under the water.
[00:26:05]  It doesn't fire upon civilian boats, for example.
[00:26:07]  Exceptions apply when we've seen one or two go missing, usually.
[00:26:13]  After sharp turns, etc.
[00:26:16]  Now, there is an infamous case which I won't be talking about right now.
[00:26:20]  Maybe in the future we'll talk about it, but obviously that video circling of the MH370 with those orbs circling around it and making it disappear.
[00:26:32]  If I'm not mistaken, didn't that flight, didn't the flight log see a rather sharp sort of U turn happen over the ocean with that plane before it was engaged allegedly by these three orbs and disappeared?
[00:26:49]  I don't know.
[00:26:49]  Completely separate conspiracy.
[00:26:51]  You guys can look into it.
[00:26:53]  Maybe we'll do a deep dive eventually into that stuff, but I feel like it's a deep rabbit hole.
[00:26:57]  Any relation to Antarctica?
[00:26:59]  He said, my section monitored just this craft and any interactions it attempted.
[00:27:04]  All right, so.
[00:27:05]  Maybe implying that there are other sections devoted to the other crafts that they found.
[00:27:10]  Obviously, if there was something lurking under there with the technology that we have, especially with the NRO and everything else, we'd know about it, right?
[00:27:16]  He said a previous co worker did mention something in passing of Antarctica at one point, but I ignored it if I'm being honest.
[00:27:22]  Talking about other projects is considered career suicide.
[00:27:27]  How about the destination of the space orbs?
[00:27:29]  Is Jupiter a potential destination?
[00:27:31]  I believe they are keeping a massive orb inside of the gas giant, though I have no evidence but many dreams of it.
[00:27:40]  Okay.
[00:27:41]  He says, no idea.
[00:27:42]  If this is a project, I haven't seen it.
[00:27:44]  No orbs out of the construction facility, just UFOs.
[00:27:46]  How are we doing here, folks?
[00:27:48]  You guys enjoying this so far?
[00:27:50]  If you're still here, I appreciate you.
[00:27:53]  Another question What units have been lost approaching this construction machine?
[00:27:56]  Why have they not sent a seawolf to investigate the Jimmy Carter with its nanotech?
[00:28:02]  I'm looking into a seawolf.
[00:28:04]  What's a seawolf?
[00:28:05]  It's a submarine.
[00:28:07]  Oh, a nuclear powered fast attack submarine.
[00:28:13]  He says everything you can think of, really.
[00:28:15]  At one point, nuclear missiles were being toyed with again, and we deployed fighters and a sub with some serious intent.
[00:28:24]  Everything except the sub was lost.
[00:28:27]  How have they not come to the conclusion the UAP being released are extraterrestrial if they don't know what the UAP are to begin with, or if there is nothing inside them?
[00:28:37]  It's a pretty big jump to go right to ET because he did mention at the top that these are mainly, he said, mostly unmanned.
[00:28:44]  He said they crash sometimes, parts fail, and gravity engines near the surface of the planet can be like crossing an intersection.
[00:28:52]  This point I find really fascinating because Bob Lazar, when, and bear with me here, Bob did say that when it was, is it the Omicron configuration or one of the three configurations that the craft had, the one that allowed it to travel slowly?
[00:29:07]  He said that was the most unstable form of travel for these things, that they would often like oscillate flying over the terrain because the amount of Electromagnetism, you know, would shift.
[00:29:18]  I don't know.
[00:29:19]  I'm not a physicist, but like something would happen that it wouldn't be stable.
[00:29:23]  And that's what he's saying here.
[00:29:25]  We recover these and sometimes find passengers.
[00:29:27]  We mostly see drones now.
[00:29:29]  Back in the earlier days, we saw a lot more piloted craft.
[00:29:32]  Okay.
[00:29:33]  Why do you not know anything about the last two years?

=== Craft Crashes and Pilot Illusions (16:05) ===

[00:29:35]  Just curious.
[00:29:36]  He said moved on from the project because of new management that didn't trust older proven methods.
[00:29:41]  Somebody asked about the details on the ship that approached that got absolutely decimated.
[00:29:46]  He said normal approach details, pilot responsive and actively talking.
[00:29:52]  The feed cuts out, pilot still talking, suddenly nothing.
[00:29:56]  Poor guy likely had no idea it was likely a suicide mission.
[00:30:00]  Based on what we've seen, the construction facility has far superior weapons than the UFOs do.
[00:30:06]  The weapon destroys the matter it hits entirely.
[00:30:10]  He says it also shits on anything electronic in the vicinity.
[00:30:13]  All right.
[00:30:16]  Terrifying.
[00:30:17]  None of this is reassuring, by the way.
[00:30:20]  The contents and equipment usually mimic the intended purposes, like the equipment share a pattern specific to its purpose.
[00:30:26]  This is a question.
[00:30:27]  He says, yes.
[00:30:28]  Usually we find a thinner model, for example, would have no pilots and a lot of sensory hardware.
[00:30:36]  So when he says these things were built to spec, the thinner models, the ones that would have like a thinner shell, would often not house any biologics and would simply be for some type of like, Sensory reconnaissance.
[00:30:49]  My favorite is finding one that is fitted for research.
[00:30:53]  If we are lucky, we find things that we've never seen before.
[00:30:55]  Before I left, we were looking at what we thought was a lab of some kind for genetics.
[00:31:02]  Not going to get into that one, but there is a deep well.
[00:31:07]  I'm currently reading David Jacobs' The Threat.
[00:31:13]  If you haven't read that book yet about like abductions and like the whole hybridization genetic stuff, it's a wild ride.
[00:31:20]  So he's asking if they're burger shaped, the ones that are built to spec, and he said, or pear shaped.
[00:31:27]  And he says, the size, shape, and speed are usually factors that we use to determine what the purpose of the UFO is.
[00:31:34]  We get it wrong sometimes.
[00:31:36]  They can be quite large, and both pear and burger shapes are known builds.
[00:31:40]  So pears and burgers.
[00:31:42]  Okay.
[00:31:43]  Somebody writes, I have had two orange orbs approach me to within 100 feet one night, glowing, translucent, but rather dim like the setting sun seen through smog.
[00:31:52]  They were flying in 45 degree formation, about 50 miles an hour.
[00:31:57]  He says research slash science vessels sometimes have mobile light producing cameras.
[00:32:03]  And he puts cameras into quotes used for multiple purposes from scouting to keeping threats contained or at bay.
[00:32:11]  These are shaped like hammers.
[00:32:14]  And we got burgers, we got hammers, we got pears.
[00:32:18]  And when operated, they are extremely bright.
[00:32:20]  Red lights are a sign of hostility or caution to deploy weapons, orange lights are usually for spotting minerals or living things.
[00:32:26]  Okay, so if anybody sees flying orbs that are orange, they're scanning for like living beings or minerals.
[00:32:34]  If you see red, red is not a good sign, apparently.
[00:32:38]  They're going to deploy weapons.
[00:32:41]  He said, As soon as I blinked, this is the guy asking the question, my flashlight at them, they accelerated to several thousand knots and disappeared over the horizon.
[00:32:49]  Searched YouTube and found several videos of the same objects, mostly near San Diego.
[00:32:54]  He said, I'm not surprised.
[00:32:55]  The range on those is quite large.
[00:32:57]  The UFO was likely somewhere above you, quite high up.
[00:33:01]  Up.
[00:33:02]  Is the underwater base near Catalina Island creating these?
[00:33:06]  He says no.
[00:33:07]  This one has only left the Atlantic Ocean twice.
[00:33:10]  Both times were before I arrived.
[00:33:12]  Interesting.
[00:33:13]  Interesting.
[00:33:15]  What a weird answer if you're making that up.
[00:33:20]  I mean, could be a lie, though.
[00:33:22]  It's just a strange.
[00:33:25]  I wouldn't have thought of that lie.
[00:33:26]  That's an interesting one, but then I'm not in this guy's head, you know?
[00:33:30]  Somebody said, Are aliens human or humanoid?
[00:33:33]  He said, Humanoid, very humanoid, whatever that means.
[00:33:37]  Someone says, Do you know anything about abductions, forced breeding programs, etc.?
[00:33:42]  He said, Bodies are removed before we are allowed to perform work.
[00:33:46]  We definitely see some passing by, hence changes in quote unquote older proven methods by new management.
[00:33:53]  So the new management likely didn't like other personnel seeing these bodies if they had no need to see the bodies.
[00:34:01]  Keeping it airtight.
[00:34:02]  Someone says also real true disclosure anytime soon?
[00:34:06]  He says the Air Force is extremely frustrated with the lack of progress on their end.
[00:34:13]  We felt similar, but are unable to share details with them.
[00:34:16]  Everything's compartmentalized.
[00:34:19]  So, I'd assume this was some sort of AI design that seems to be advanced yet already prepared for the get go.
[00:34:25]  He says, Can you rephrase this?
[00:34:27]  Basically, when designed to, let's say, be a miner, you will usually see hardware dedicated to resource collection on the vessel.
[00:34:34]  If the vessel is something scientific, you may encounter things like tools and, as previously mentioned, something akin to a lab.
[00:34:41]  We thought of it more as I need to go hiking, so the construction facility builds you a quote unquote car and packs it full of hiking supplies and even adjusts the shape to fit what was packed.
[00:34:52]  Right.
[00:34:53]  So if you needed, like, I don't know, hiking shoes, there would be like a little slot to fit those hiking shoes perfectly type deal.
[00:35:01]  Do you think there are fewer piloted crafts because the population of the facility, if any, is declining?
[00:35:07]  No.
[00:35:08]  The common consensus is that they are just being careful.
[00:35:11]  I've heard recovery of living pilots usually doesn't go well for either of us.
[00:35:16]  We suspect they piloted a lot of initial craft due to early complications.
[00:35:21]  We also saw more crashes.
[00:35:25]  Any bodies recovered show any ranges of aging we can recognize?
[00:35:28]  I wonder if most of the inhabitants are either old or dead at this point, though younger bodies would disprove that, I suppose.
[00:35:36]  He says, No idea about age, not my specialty, and asking about it would have been a net negative, especially now, he says.
[00:35:44]  And he probably says, Especially now, because of the sort of disclosure.
[00:35:48]  This is post 2017 New York Times bit, you know.
[00:35:53]  Previous higher ups were getting better about being open with information since discovery.
[00:35:59]  Happened quicker.
[00:36:01]  Again, previous higher ups.
[00:36:02]  This is before the management sort of shifted again.
[00:36:05]  What do the passengers look like?
[00:36:06]  Are they biological or Android?
[00:36:08]  He says bio.
[00:36:09]  Someone says, Do you know anything about people such as Stephen Greer, Lou Elizondo, or whatever, et cetera?
[00:36:14]  Are these people in the know, or LARPers, or controlled misinformation, et cetera?
[00:36:20]  He says, This is interesting.
[00:36:24]  No idea.
[00:36:26]  One name sticks out you didn't mention mentioning Bob Lazar by name.
[00:36:31]  Would likely have you taken out back and put down like a dog.
[00:36:34]  Do the math on why.
[00:36:35]  All right.
[00:36:41]  Let me do the math real quick.
[00:36:44]  Ah, because he was telling the truth.
[00:36:46]  I don't know.
[00:36:46]  Are both these guys lying?
[00:36:48]  Are both these guys telling the truth?
[00:36:50]  Again, I'm just really invested.
[00:36:53]  Something I like to mention to friends of mine who ask me about the UFO stuff, who are not necessarily in the know, is take it as fiction and it'll be extremely compelling.
[00:37:03]  Take it as facts and yeah, it'll be obviously twice as compelling.
[00:37:07]  Or 100 times more compelling.
[00:37:09]  But if you just take it as fiction and not as, you know, bullshit right out of the gate, take it as a story.
[00:37:19]  And now we're like uncovering these extra pieces of the puzzle.
[00:37:22]  We're creating this story right now that's happening and we're kind of a part of it.
[00:37:27]  And it's almost this, yeah, this like real life story that's playing out.
[00:37:33]  I don't know.
[00:37:33]  That's just kind of how I consume this.
[00:37:35]  I'm not committed one way or the other.
[00:37:38]  I'm just very invested in the amazing story that I'm hearing right now, and it's just very entertaining to me.
[00:37:45]  Now, if this is real, obviously this is very scary, and this is not entertaining to a lot of people.
[00:37:49]  So I do get that, and I acknowledge that as well.
[00:37:52]  But for the life of me, until I'm aboard one of these things, I'm not going to be 100% committed.
[00:37:58]  Out of everything you've ever found regarding UFOs in general, what is your personal favorite?
[00:38:03]  He says, quote unquote, new engine was deployed with a very large model that I'd never seen before.
[00:38:09]  We usually see three to five gravity producing engines.
[00:38:13]  This one had seven favorite object or find?
[00:38:16]  Probably the quote unquote lab, since we never fully understood how it worked before it was destroyed.
[00:38:21]  Now, the gravity engine, the three, the five, the seven.
[00:38:25]  Am I right in assuming that the sports model craft that Bob worked on had three amplifiers?
[00:38:32]  Is that what he means by engines?
[00:38:35]  Not sure.
[00:38:36]  He's not really using any physics terms here.
[00:38:39]  So I really wonder what his job is.
[00:38:41]  Is it just like.
[00:38:42]  I know he gets into like.
[00:38:45]  Stripping the craft and this type of thing, but how much of it is like he says analysis, but he's not really using any, you know, analyzing jargon.
[00:38:57]  Maybe because he's dumbing it down for the audience, or maybe because he's lying.
[00:39:02]  I don't know.
[00:39:03]  Somebody asks, makes me wonder whether a meaningful distinction between scientific study and amusement still exists for them, or if it ever did.
[00:39:12]  He said, This was before my time, but they talked about a quote unquote bus UFO.
[00:39:19]  That had more occupants than hardware.
[00:39:21]  Most of the intended purpose appeared to be for physical viewing.
[00:39:24]  I wondered if they ever just wanted to look at the animals.
[00:39:29]  Giant UFO bus.
[00:39:31]  Interesting.
[00:39:33]  How long until we can hang out with aliens?
[00:39:35]  I'm going to omit a word here.
[00:39:39]  I'm going to go Do you have any cousins that destroy everything they touch?
[00:39:45]  When do you want to see them again?
[00:39:47]  If you have a cousin breaking stuff, when's the next time you want to hang out with that person?
[00:39:52]  Question This is a strangely recurrent theme.
[00:39:54]  At a minimum, They have psychotronic devices of some sort.
[00:39:58]  This is interesting.
[00:39:59]  He says, This reminds me of something in my first year.
[00:40:02]  UFO crashes.
[00:40:04]  They remove the bodies well before my team arrives.
[00:40:07]  We start to look, and the craft is unpowered at first.
[00:40:11]  A few minutes later, the craft powers on and starts to close up.
[00:40:15]  We radio out and get a response from the unit removing one of the occupants, alien, that they are working on it.
[00:40:22]  The ship powers off, and the other team asks if we are good to go.
[00:40:28]  No mention of how access was possible.
[00:40:30]  I suspect the pilot may have interfaced with the ship by remote or psionic ability.
[00:40:37]  Now, psionic ability, remote control, are those two different things?
[00:40:42]  I don't know.
[00:40:43]  If you put a neuralink in my brain and I can open my garage door using my brain, is that psionic ability or is that remote?
[00:40:52]  Someone says not really translucent, but maybe the outer shell was.
[00:40:55]  They definitely had inner core that wasn't see through.
[00:40:58]  He's talking about the orbs that were over his head.
[00:41:01]  This guy says, lots of tools they use produce light.
[00:41:03]  If this is still about the orb, the shell you may have seen was just the light around the device, I call the hammer.
[00:41:09]  Okay.
[00:41:10]  Someone suggests that the ones with the beings in it may be some sort of projection illusion.
[00:41:15]  The response that is given by the person posting is one of my favorites.
[00:41:19]  He says, genuinely curious what the f you were on about.
[00:41:22]  So there you go.
[00:41:23]  They're not projections or illusions, according to this guy.
[00:41:26]  Are there more than one construction facility?
[00:41:29]  You mentioned one in the Bermuda Triangle.
[00:41:30]  However, there are lots of USOs off the west coast of the Americas as well.
[00:41:35]  Any insight?
[00:41:36]  He says, I suspect there may be, since we only watch the Atlantic Ocean and the UFOs we track normally don't stay far from home base.
[00:41:43]  Asking about it would have been a bad move, right?
[00:41:46]  So, what he's saying is that the ones associated with that particular one wouldn't go across country.
[00:41:52]  You would likely have another one on the West Coast.
[00:41:54]  I'm talking about the MCUs.
[00:41:56]  This is the mobile construction unit.
[00:41:58]  Are you talking about the ones in the Pacific or the Arctic?
[00:42:01]  He says, Atlantic.
[00:42:02]  I don't know of others.
[00:42:03]  The mention of something in the Arctic was weird and brief when it came up.
[00:42:07]  Is the mobile construction unit you're talking about a burger shape or a pear shape?
[00:42:10]  Need to know.
[00:42:11]  He says burger ish.
[00:42:13]  I misunderstood and thought you meant the UFO is not the carrier.
[00:42:16]  So, this is replying to an earlier question about the shapes of it.
[00:42:19]  But yes, the construction fleet or the construction unit is shaped like a burger, a hamburger.
[00:42:27]  Okay.
[00:42:28]  Someone says, I read somewhere some UFO navigation systems require an ET whose own personal wavelength has been specifically attuned to the neural network of the craft.
[00:42:38]  All right.
[00:42:39]  He says, This tracks somewhat for me.
[00:42:41]  When we look at the craft, we usually have to force certain things to work.
[00:42:45]  Two teams come behind mine, so that could be dedicated to understanding the craft.
[00:42:49]  Can you tell us what they look like physically?
[00:42:52]  Usual gray type or big ears?
[00:42:55]  Those are the two options, by the way.
[00:42:57]  He says, Imagine the typical grays you see on TV.
[00:43:00]  I've seen two corpses, so maybe they're a different species, but I'd never laid eyes on another.
[00:43:05]  Anything about their culture or name, etc.?
[00:43:07]  He says, rumors mostly.
[00:43:09]  They almost never want anything to do with us.
[00:43:11]  Mentions of destruction or warfare apparently change their attitude pretty quickly.
[00:43:16]  So someone asks, another massive problem is determining which aspects of encounters is physically real.
[00:43:22]  He says, we rely on our biological and technological sensors too much to be able to truly understand the phenomenon, in my opinion.
[00:43:30]  This is his own opinion.
[00:43:31]  Someone says, That's a hell of a claim.
[00:43:33]  Any particular incident?
[00:43:34]  I assume you're referring to the various nuclear site incursions.
[00:43:38]  We're talking about the appearance of UFOs near, you know, conflict.
[00:43:44]  He says, I guess global conflict wasn't a good term.
[00:43:47]  I meant more of tension.
[00:43:48]  The nuclear site incursions, the airspace violations, have also been increasing tensions.
[00:43:53]  From what I understand, the Roswell incident increased tensions between U.S. and Soviets.
[00:43:58]  There's security tensions behind other countries gaining access to information or materials surrounding the phenomenon.
[00:44:05]  There has been great domestic tension within the U.S., intel agencies, military disinformation campaigns, etc.
[00:44:11]  So, tension's not just, you know, floods and tornadoes and hurricanes.
[00:44:17]  I found they usually monitor us.
[00:44:19]  If approached at an uncomfortable distance, they flee.
[00:44:22]  When cornered, it doesn't end well.
[00:44:25]  Their tools can do harm to us even for just scientific purposes.
[00:44:29]  We think they just don't care.
[00:44:32]  It's scarier that they don't care to me, I feel.
[00:44:37]  But, like, we don't matter.
[00:44:38]  That's not a good feeling.
[00:44:41]  Do you believe we are under their control in some way or were sometime in history?
[00:44:47]  Possibly, but I have no way of knowing.
[00:44:49]  The higher ups I worked for seem hellbent on discovering more about them, usually not a quality found among controlled beings.
[00:44:56]  That's a good point.
[00:44:57]  What were the main reasons for the crashes?
[00:44:59]  I'd think random lightning or freak accidents, seeing at how advanced they are.
[00:45:02]  And this is something that comes up quite a bit.
[00:45:04]  A lot of people ask, well, how do these things crash if they're coming here from a distant galaxy?
[00:45:08]  First of all, we don't know that.
[00:45:10]  Second of all, Let's not assume they travel like we do in a straight line.
[00:45:13]  Their technology might be far different than ours, and maybe Earth somehow messes with that.
[00:45:19]  He says, You'd be surprised how many mistakes they make, especially the further back you look.
[00:45:25]  One area they seem to avoid, like the plague, we suspect is due to issues with gravity and flight.
[00:45:29]  Before they figured it out, we collected quite a few mishaps there.
[00:45:33]  They've tried to shoot some down, mostly over nuclear incidents, but failed miserably.
[00:45:39]  Okay, so a few things here.

=== Unreplicable Alloys and Crash Mysteries (14:44) ===

[00:45:40]  They said there was a spot that these guys would fall down.
[00:45:43]  Would crash a lot into where they found a lot of them, where gravity was affected.
[00:45:48]  There's probably a reason for that.
[00:45:50]  And then they said they also tried to shoot some down over these nuclear incidents, but failed miserably.
[00:45:56]  This somehow to me, you know, recently at the Langley Air Force Base, there were incursions which lasted 17 days of, they called them UAS, unidentified aerial systems, whatever you want to call them, UFOs, dude.
[00:46:12]  We don't know what they are.
[00:46:13]  Langley Air Force Base did experience incursions of unauthorized unmanned aerial systems last year in December 2023.
[00:46:22]  They're hovering above the bases where the F 22s are housed, and they're not shot down.
[00:46:29]  One of two reasons they're not shot down one, they're ours.
[00:46:33]  Two, you can't.
[00:46:34]  You can't shoot them down.
[00:46:35]  You tried, but you couldn't.
[00:46:36]  And that's maybe what this guy's saying.
[00:46:38]  Did you ever see written symbols in the craft?
[00:46:40]  He says, yes, usually marked by doorways and key objects.
[00:46:44]  Written language appears frequently on tools and critical items.
[00:46:47]  This is something we have seen actually in many, many cases of abductions as well.
[00:46:51]  Bob Lazar talks about that.
[00:46:52]  Another question.
[00:46:53]  Also, it reads like their objective is to observe and preserve.
[00:46:56]  He says, I agree.
[00:46:58]  The idea was pitched that they are waiting for us to mature, or perhaps something bigger to arrive, and they don't want us to ruin the planet in the meantime.
[00:47:06]  That's a scary thing to think about.
[00:47:08]  You know, that those are our two options.
[00:47:11]  Either they're waiting for us to grow up and they're protecting it in the meantime, or they're taking care of it and waiting for whoever's coming, whoever owns this place.
[00:47:23]  I mean, terrifying.
[00:47:26]  What do you believe the reason for the uptick in sightings?
[00:47:29]  And he says, once again, my knowledge was cut off by about two years ago.
[00:47:32]  If you mean very recently, my guess would be the Russians and the U.S. having a little secret dance amongst themselves.
[00:47:38]  When nuclear anything gets involved, we see large deployments for long periods of time.
[00:47:43]  Strife seems to be the catalyst.
[00:47:46]  Also, what is your scariest experience while engaging with the phenomenon?
[00:47:49]  And what was your favorite, if any?
[00:47:51]  He says, Doors closing on us, as mentioned above, made me wish I had brown pants.
[00:47:56]  Still fascinated with the lab we found.
[00:47:59]  It was damaged by accident, and I never really got much time with it.
[00:48:02]  Question Are you aware of any foreign tech that was successfully reverse engineered?
[00:48:07]  This is interesting.
[00:48:08]  He says, Yes.
[00:48:09]  We used to laugh at Russian and Chinese designs.
[00:48:12]  We stopped laughing at China when they produced an operational, but buggy, Version of their mining equipment still stumps most of our engineers.
[00:48:20]  China also lies out of its ass, but from what we saw, we deemed it operational and working.
[00:48:26]  Countries listed above have flight capable craft, just not very good ones.
[00:48:30]  I'm honestly surprised no one has asked about the energy source or internals.
[00:48:35]  Heading out for the night, but we'll be on tomorrow to answer more.
[00:48:38]  He had mentioned that when we capture biologics that are alive, it usually doesn't end well for either side.
[00:48:45]  And someone wrote why.
[00:48:46]  And he says, One example was shortly after I joined.
[00:48:49]  They said one was downed, but two occupants were alive.
[00:48:53]  The first team couldn't get close without being attacked.
[00:48:56]  Aliens never seem to recover their lost UFOs for whatever reason, so they just waited a few days until they died, then recovered the UFO.
[00:49:06]  Hostility is usually their last option.
[00:49:08]  It's like they don't even care about themselves.
[00:49:11]  Somebody asks, I guess, like how to get in.
[00:49:14]  He says recruitment isn't something easy if that's your goal.
[00:49:16]  They usually recruit people with extremely clean background checks, and I never saw anyone under 35.
[00:49:22]  What is the energy source?
[00:49:24]  You mentioned Bob, so I think I know.
[00:49:26]  And he says, correct ish.
[00:49:28]  The power source is element 115.
[00:49:30]  The one thing no one talks about is that it usually seals it within the craft because it produces its own gravity field.
[00:49:39]  Bob Lazar handled element 115, which was already pulled out, which is rare and weird.
[00:49:46]  Protocol now is that only one person is allowed to handle E 115.
[00:49:50]  I was forbidden from touching or interacting with it.
[00:49:53]  We still have trouble producing the shit, too.
[00:49:56]  Okay, interesting.
[00:49:58]  So he's not saying Bob wasn't right, but he is confused at how Bob was able to handle the element 115.
[00:50:06]  How do UFOs travel in the context of those tic tac reports and Bob Lazar's report video where they seemingly jump through space time and light to appear in a new location?
[00:50:15]  Notice how it just phases to a new location, like it staggers.
[00:50:19]  And he goes, This is common when moving at high speed from a standstill or slow speed initially.
[00:50:24]  Gravity distorts time, and the object inside the field can stagger when traveling.
[00:50:29]  Someone asks, I've heard the craft can detect the presence of a camera when someone is filming them.
[00:50:34]  He said, not unless these crafts have put into a mode to detect a lens, no.
[00:50:38]  If the UFO is standing still or hovering, though, they won't miss you.
[00:50:41]  You can see a face like you're standing in front of someone a couple miles out.
[00:50:45]  Doesn't look like a camera, though.
[00:50:46]  Their eyes are different.
[00:50:49]  Huh.
[00:50:50]  So within the craft, you can see.
[00:50:53]  I'm confused by what he means by that, but apparently, yeah, their eyes are different and they can zoom in.
[00:51:00]  How are you able to talk about any of this?
[00:51:02]  Didn't you swear to secrecy?
[00:51:04]  And this he says, yeah, yes, liver cancer sucks.
[00:51:08]  That's his answer.
[00:51:10]  He said, wouldn't the government already have their eye on you considering you could turn out to be a loose end?
[00:51:14]  And he goes, I'm not going on national TV or radio, I'm on 4chan board.
[00:51:19]  I'm sure they look at stuff like this, but cancer makes you feel a little different.
[00:51:23]  Also, did you or your coworkers experience strange things outside of work that could have been related to what you saw?
[00:51:29]  That's a question.
[00:51:30]  He goes, No, usually most people working there had no prior interest in UFOs or at least feigned not having interest.
[00:51:37]  Someone writes, Not true.
[00:51:38]  Most zookeepers love their work and love the animals a great deal.
[00:51:42]  And he goes, I wondered if some of them do like us.
[00:51:44]  They definitely have the ability to destroy us.
[00:51:47]  Question The spheres are a type of unmanned surveillance drone.
[00:51:50]  He said, shaped like a hammer.
[00:51:52]  But when activated, yes, they appear like spheres due to the intense light.
[00:51:56]  They see light differently, and looking into the sun for them isn't an issue like it is for us.
[00:52:01]  I can't speak for psionic abilities, if any, since I've only heard rumors in passing.
[00:52:06]  We believe the lack of communication was inherent to their personal beliefs about us, as mentioned previously.
[00:52:12]  But active, serious discussions about destruction get them going.
[00:52:16]  Do you think they're playing some type of role in stopping rogue entities and dangers from space hurting us on a large scale?
[00:52:22]  That was a theory, yes.
[00:52:23]  We think they are more interested in keeping the planet safe from us.
[00:52:26]  Two main suggestions are that we don't spoil the planet before they arrive and take it from us, or they are letting us evolve and grow while preventing devastation.
[00:52:35]  Which is so interesting because this literally covers both sides of the UFO spectrum.
[00:52:40]  If you look at within the UFO community, people who do believe in this, they're pretty much split down the middle between it's something benevolent, spiritual, religious, Pleiadian, full of love and kindness.
[00:52:55]  And the other side is.
[00:52:57]  It's a hybridization.
[00:52:58]  They're taking over.
[00:52:59]  There's reptilians.
[00:53:00]  They're going to eat us.
[00:53:01]  They're leeching our louche, all sorts of like dark mystery stuff.
[00:53:06]  So it's interesting to see that they're also either waiting or it's both.
[00:53:14]  I don't know.
[00:53:15]  Your guess is as good as mine.
[00:53:16]  But it is interesting that this covers both of the things that we're kind of on the fence about.
[00:53:21]  What do you know about this claim?
[00:53:23]  He's talking about the remote viewing.
[00:53:24]  He goes, sadly, not enough to give a good response.
[00:53:26]  Remote viewing is a very strange thing.
[00:53:28]  It's shown to work at times, but most of the time it doesn't.
[00:53:31]  As for the interdimensional aspect of it, I don't believe there's anything actual interdimensionally happening.
[00:53:36]  This gets a little heavy now.
[00:53:38]  This is like the one time he does get a little heavy.
[00:53:40]  It's just our best way to try and grasp or perceive what's going on behind the veil.
[00:53:46]  From what I understand, whatever is behind the phenomenon has the ability to manipulate matter or energy in similar ways that we can manipulate information.
[00:53:56]  We create 3D realities and manipulate them via our understanding of machine code and linear algebra.
[00:54:03]  So, what he's saying is that they can build these craft the same way that we build things in a 3D engine.
[00:54:13]  Essentially, what Luigi's doing for Project Gravitor and building the craft in S4 is what they can do in real life, right?
[00:54:21]  So, we can take information from in here and apply it to like 2D and create a 3D model in a 2D environment.
[00:54:29]  Where I guess, you know, they can take it a step further and create something using, you know, different types of information.
[00:54:37]  I think that's very, very interesting.
[00:54:39]  And that would also, I think, explain a lot of the metamaterials that have been studied, where it isn't necessarily the elements that baffle us, but it's the arrangement of the atoms within the elements that baffle us.
[00:54:51]  Like something, this had to be constructed in, couldn't even be done in the vacuum of space, basically, how perfect this material is made on an atomic level, from what I gather.
[00:55:03]  He continues.
[00:55:04]  It also seems to be able to play around with space time, almost as if we are sitting on or perceiving time that has been homogeneously transformed into projective space while they are free to move about homogeneous space.
[00:55:22]  Okay?
[00:55:24]  If they haven't entered the projection space, then they could freely move about our space without interacting with it until they collapse their spaceslash coordinates into our projective space.
[00:55:36]  Normalizing their position with their homogenous coordinate.
[00:55:41]  Not sure what any of that means.
[00:55:43]  Maybe it makes sense to some of you out there, but essentially traveling outside of space time until they decide to just appear in our space time.
[00:55:52]  Why does image analysis by someone competent on the original UFO always show weird stuff?
[00:55:57]  And he says gravity and the reflective nature of the craft usually.
[00:56:00]  And that is an answer I can live with.
[00:56:04]  Am I right in assuming that disco lights are just air absorbing radiation and being completely saturated by it?
[00:56:09]  No.
[00:56:11]  What materials are these UFOs made of?
[00:56:13]  And he goes, That answer gets complicated quickly.
[00:56:16]  Short answer is an alloy that we cannot reproduce but only repurpose.
[00:56:20]  This alloy is kind of like a film that fits over the frame of the craft.
[00:56:24]  I mentioned that they were built to spec.
[00:56:26]  That's exactly what I mean.
[00:56:27]  The shape is always efficiently designed.
[00:56:31]  The actual frame itself is heavier and composed of more elements.
[00:56:34]  Both of these alloys have a lot of elements we cannot reproduce.
[00:56:37]  One of the main problems when repurposing these alloys is getting them hot enough.
[00:56:41]  They absorb heat very well.
[00:56:43]  And shaping the metal is a tedious process.
[00:56:46]  Interesting.
[00:56:47]  And this kind of echoes a lot of the stuff that Lou said in his book, Imminent.
[00:56:52]  If you guys haven't checked that out, read that.
[00:56:53]  But it does talk about the skin of the craft, different types of alloy.
[00:56:57]  Can you quickly walk us through the process of identifying the contents of a UFO, a crashed UFO?
[00:57:02]  First team leaves that deals with occupants and initial discovery.
[00:57:05]  We arrive and meet with an external member of the team who can touch and examine parts we are not allowed to interact with.
[00:57:11]  We never have to cut our way into the UFO.
[00:57:14]  We enter the first order of business, is checking for element 115, then leaving the ship together to send it away.
[00:57:21]  We return and look for any tools and loose objects that can be extracted.
[00:57:26]  We then start to strip any specialized components on board, such as sensory equipment or navigation.
[00:57:32]  We leave, and a third and fourth team arrive, likely to remove the bulk of the craft.
[00:57:37]  Last page.
[00:57:38]  Tell me about the mobile construction facility making them.
[00:57:41]  Shaped like an extremely large UFO, but as one mentioned before, more of a burger design.
[00:57:48]  All right.
[00:57:49]  All right.
[00:57:50]  Almost never leaves the Atlantic Ocean.
[00:57:51]  In fact, we'll sit through hurricanes and only move elsewhere to release or receive a UFO.
[00:57:56]  No visible weapons or cockpit from satellite footage.
[00:57:59]  It also does not use any lights, unlike other UFOs.
[00:58:02]  Now, he says satellite footage.
[00:58:03]  We now know about, you know, Immaculate Constellation possibly having access to the satellite footage in conjunction, probably with the NRO.
[00:58:11]  Are there no other things making UFOs?
[00:58:13]  Yes.
[00:58:14]  UFOs arrive and depart Earth, but very infrequently.
[00:58:17]  These UFOs are usually quite large.
[00:58:19]  The U.S. has been itching to get its hands on a freighter.
[00:58:23]  Quote unquote, UFO, when inbound or outbound, but the chance has never presented itself.
[00:58:28]  Leadership openly stated securing one would result in a promotion.
[00:58:33]  Of course it would.
[00:58:34]  Of course that's what they want to do shoot down a freighter UFO.
[00:58:38]  What is wrong with us?
[00:58:40]  This is insane.
[00:58:41]  But yeah, so they do leave into space.
[00:58:44]  Some of them come and go.
[00:58:45]  I don't know.
[00:58:46]  Is this a gas station?
[00:58:47]  Is that all we are?
[00:58:49]  Who knows?
[00:58:49]  Someone says that makes sense for the ones like in the military videos, but what about the saucers with multicolored lights?
[00:58:54]  I highly doubt those are drones or military, except for the triangle kind.
[00:58:58]  He said, never seen a triangle UFO.
[00:59:00]  Lights are usually on bigger vessels and are sensory in nature.
[00:59:04]  They are usually also used to spot each other.
[00:59:07]  Kind of like some type of weird air traffic control that they need to.
[00:59:11]  Yeah.
[00:59:12]  Because I guess UFOs can crash into another UFO.
[00:59:16]  Last comment, and this is what got me coming back.
[00:59:18]  Someone says people you wouldn't trust to work on your car engine claim that they are the go to guy for UFOs.
[00:59:23]  This seems very unlikely.
[00:59:25]  And the answer here is one that kind of haunts me.
[00:59:30]  He says, I'm not here to convince anyone.
[00:59:33]  You'll notice yourself coming back to things I've said over time on your own as understanding increases.
[00:59:39]  Now, on that note, I am very much looking forward.
[00:59:43]  To seeing what goes on with this UFO briefing happening in Congress.
[00:59:49]  Will there be more connections into this 4chan whistleblower, or will we just get a lot of fluff?
[00:59:59]  Likely is the latter, but hopefully we get a lot more out of this than we expect.
[01:00:05]  This was a year and a half ago.
[01:00:06]  Why mention Bob Lazar multiple times and Element 115 multiple times?
[01:00:11]  If you're familiar with the UFO space, Mentioning Bob Lazar as some type of proof or some type of conjecture to or connection to the UAPs that you worked on isn't a good idea.

=== Fake Messages and Whistleblower Fluff (05:26) ===

[01:00:25]  Most people know that mentioning Bob Lazar, I mean, 50% of the audience is going to say he's fake, he's a liar.
[01:00:32]  You know, there's a lot of people who don't agree with that story and who found, you know, their own flaws within the story.
[01:00:41]  Knowing that, why would you name drop Bob if you're lying?
[01:00:45]  You'd want more people on your side to believe you, right?
[01:00:48]  I guess, if that's the point of this.
[01:00:51]  So that's one thing to me that stuck out is like, huh, that's very, very interesting.
[01:00:56]  The next thing that sort of stuck out to me is the made to spec.
[01:01:01]  Even Bob Lazar's craft was sort of made to spec.
[01:01:04]  There were no toilets, no beds, no kitchen.
[01:01:07]  And a lot of descriptions of these little gray beings is that they have no little lump in their pants and that they don't eat and they're kind of just this biological drone, this soulless drone.
[01:01:22]  When I start to think about this mobile construction unit, almost as if it's been placed there, and this is completely off the rails here, by the way, but it's almost as if it was placed there by another race who put this here.
[01:01:38]  The grays are just sort of these things that you can buy.
[01:01:41]  You can buy the muscular, you can buy the more psychic, taller, shorter.
[01:01:45]  And you place the grays in these little bases, and they sort of, it's kind of like playing Sims or SimCity.
[01:01:54]  Yeah, they're kind of like this biological AI that you just use for mundane tasks.
[01:01:59]  I feel like the more we go into the future, the more we use AI, the closer we're getting to that reality as well.
[01:02:06]  That eventually the more optimal AI will be the one that's biological.
[01:02:10]  And we'll eventually maybe get past the idea of things having a soul, or maybe we'll find how to control what has a soul and what doesn't.
[01:02:19]  And we'll create these beings and it'll be done in an ethical way.
[01:02:23]  And again, this is off the rails.
[01:02:27]  But I love that this is getting my head spinning, especially when we talk about USOs, unidentified submerged objects.
[01:02:34]  There was one video I seen recently on Twitter, which was a wave cam.
[01:02:41]  I'll put that up now.
[01:02:43]  And you clearly see this object flashing in the water, exiting the water, and then sort of flashing up in the sky.
[01:02:53]  I think eventually it takes off.
[01:02:55]  But this is from one of those 24 7 surveillance cameras that someone has, like a live stream type thing.
[01:03:02]  Very hard to fake.
[01:03:03]  And obviously, then there's the Aguadilla video that was made famous, which is a FLIR video of this craft coming in and out of water, moving at high speed, seemingly, and not being affected by the fact that it's leaving water and going into water.
[01:03:22]  We're seeing more and more of these crafts over water.
[01:03:29]  And that's what made me come back to this article or this QA session or whatever the hell this was.
[01:03:36]  I don't think the talk of underwater space bases and that type of thing was really happening a year and a half ago.
[01:03:43]  Obviously, it was, and people familiar with the UFO space already knew that, you know, water was one of the keys.
[01:03:50]  And this is no secret.
[01:03:51]  This is probably for the last 70 years we've been saying this.
[01:03:53]  But I think recently, even mainstream has picked up on, hey, this is becoming a thing.
[01:03:58]  So just really interesting.
[01:04:01]  I would love to hear your thoughts below.
[01:04:05]  Have you ever heard of this?
[01:04:07]  I'll leave the link, by the way, so you guys can read it for yourselves.
[01:04:11]  You know, it takes a whole lot more than an article to convince me of anything.
[01:04:17]  But I will say if real, this is terrifying.
[01:04:21]  If real, this is interesting.
[01:04:23]  If fake, I don't know.
[01:04:26]  Why would you do this?
[01:04:28]  Seems like a terrible thing.
[01:04:29]  I mean, you get people talking, I guess.
[01:04:31]  I guess there's a reason for that.
[01:04:32]  Some people just want some type of attention, even though they're anonymous.
[01:04:37]  I don't know, I guess.
[01:04:38]  Really leaves you guessing and thinking and questioning a little bit more.
[01:04:42]  And I think that's what I enjoyed about it.
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