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Dec. 29, 1998 - Bill Cooper
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Meaning of the Rose
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White Owl on the run.
I think I know.
I think I know.
Yes, I think I know.
The world needs a better world, a safer world.
The world needs a better world, a safer world.
You're listening to the Hour of the Time.
I'm William Cooper.
Well, folks, last night, I don't think we had too much of a listening audience.
They had an Aurora Borealis over Maine, where the transmitter is, and I think the signal was skipping from Monticello, Maine to Kinnebunk, Maine, and that's about as far as it went.
Normally, they can't get it in Kinnebunk very well, because if you're close to a short-wave station, it sort of skips right over you.
But last night they were getting the broadcast really well in Kennebuck, Maine.
So apparently it was going straight up and coming straight down almost.
An aurora borealis is a tremendous magnetic disturbance around the Earth and in the atmosphere.
And also across the country in the northwest United States, all across from border to border across the top half of the United States and portions of the East
Coast and some of the Southeastern states were having some pretty bad weather.
Pretty bad weather.
And so it's questionable whether many people heard the broadcast last night at all.
And so I'm just here to tell you that it was a good one.
And you can call Annie at this number tomorrow and find out how to order the tape if you want to have it.
Tonight, I'm going to start off by opening the phones and asking a question.
I want somebody to answer who or what Is the Bright and Morning Star.
Who or what is the Bright and Morning Star?
The number is 520-333-4578.
It has everything in the world to do with tonight's broadcast.
So if you think you know the answer, give me a call right now.
520-333-4578.
The question is, who or what is the Bright and Morning Star?
Good evening, you're on the air.
Bill, this is John David.
The Bright and Morning Star is fading.
Well, you're close, but you're not right.
Lucifer?
No, you're not right there either.
If you have a Bible concordance, look it up in the Bible concordance and go to the verse.
You'll find it in the New Testament.
But anyway, that's the incorrect answer.
In a way, you're right.
Okay, we're going to check it right now.
Okay.
Thank you.
5-2-0-3-3-3-4-5-7-8.
Who or what is the bright and morning star?
Good evening, you're on the air.
Yes, Bill.
Yes.
I would say, is it ISIS?
No, it's not ISIS.
It's not ISIS?
Nope.
Well... That's a good try, though.
It's in the military.
The last call was... I would have said the last call was two choices, but it's not ISIS, huh?
No.
Nope.
I'll let you know how close you guys were and all that kind of stuff as soon as we get the correct answer.
Bill?
Yes?
What are you going into this evening?
Well, it has a lot to do with this.
If you're asking a question like that... Well, not really, no.
No?
Nope.
Stay tuned!
Bye, Bill.
Thank you.
Bye.
Thanks for calling.
520-333-4578.
Who or what is the bright and morning star?
Good evening, you're on the air.
Yeah, hi Bill.
Hi.
I need you to talk a lot louder.
Hi Bill.
Yeah?
It's in the last chapter of the Bible, and that's Jesus.
You're right.
Alright.
The bright morning star is Jesus!
Ha ha!
Yes sir!
Um, how did you know?
Well, I've been reading it.
Okay.
I'm looking for it right here.
I've, uh, um, uh, chapter twenty-two, this is new scene, yeah, verse sixteen.
Fantastic.
You see, there are some people out there who've been paying attention.
Thank you very much.
I really appreciate it.
Okay, now, why was David, why was John David half right?
Has anybody got the answer to that?
Why was John David Half right?
Who has the answer to that?
Why, when he said Satan or Lucifer, was he half right?
Or, could he have been right if he had been listening to the wrong, or at the wrong time, or misinterpreted something somewhere along the way?
Anybody got the answer to that?
that? 520-333-4578. Come on, you've got to know the answer.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Hey Bill.
Hey.
The question was, uh, why was he half right?
Yeah.
Because, uh, Lucifer, or Satan, is referred to, I believe it's in the Psalms, as the son of the morning star.
Yes, that's correct.
The son of the morning star, and Lucifer, or Satan, is the great deceiver.
Right.
And he masquerades as who?
Uh, the source of light.
The source of light.
He masquerades also, in many instances, as Jesus, doesn't he?
Beg your pardon?
He has masqueraded, in instances, as Jesus.
Yes.
He does that.
As a matter of fact, I think that there's a scripture that says, I observed you being cast down from heaven, son of the morning star.
And I think there's also a scripture that says, in reference to Yes.
And today they call themselves what?
The Illuminati.
The Sons of Light.
the creation of the Messiah, but the sons of the...
You might say it's a tentative name, but it says the sons of the morning stars saying praises or something.
Yes.
Something to that effect.
Yes, and today they call themselves what?
That would be the Illuminati.
The Illuminati, the sons of light.
Yes.
Angels cast out of heaven, the angels of light cast out of heaven, represented in mythology as Prometheus,
Who, what?
Gave man the gift of light, fire, intellect?
Yes.
Follow me?
I can't quite hear you too well.
The connection isn't that great.
Okay.
Well, I'm sorry about that.
But I thank you for your call.
You were right on the money.
Okay.
So, John the First Caller was right.
If he was referring to Lucifer or Satan impersonating himself as the Bright and Morning Star.
And of course, Jesus is the Bright and Morning Star.
But Satan likes to deceive and likes to impersonate.
But I wanted everybody to understand that because as we start off the broadcast with a particular song, I'm playing that Because yesterday I discovered we were going to lose $2,000.
And we were going to lose it really quick if we didn't do something like immediately.
And so I said a prayer.
And I wished upon the bright and morning star in my prayer.
And my prayer was answered today.
And I'm going to talk about that during this broadcast.
It is a most remarkable occurrence.
You've all heard me tell you that I just trust in God and do what I believe to be right.
And if I'm wrong, I get smacked back real hard.
And if I'm right, God puts in my path whatever it is that I need to complete my task.
And one of those miracles has just happened.
When a star is born, the first of the gifts are two. And one of them is this. It has the power to make a woman come
true.
The power of the star.
When you wish upon a star, make no difference who you are, anything your heart desires, We'll talk to you.
If your heart is in your dreams, your wish must be fulfilled.
When you reach upon a star, as demons do, they will come.
It is time to love.
Let's reach for the end of this secret love.
I don't want to know the truth.
There's nothing in us we can do.
We have promised our pure dreams come true.
Faith is kindness.
She gives to those who love The sweet fulfillment of this season of life
Like a golden avenue Face the street and see the view
When you look upon the star You're dreaming of me
Well, I bet you're all just dying to hear this story.
And, um...
Thank you.
It's quite a story.
I've told you about our television project, and donations have been trickling in.
And by trickling in I mean really trickling in.
There's a lot of you out there who really should be ashamed of yourselves.
Who partake of the work that we do but never ever ever contribute.
And that's something you have to work out with your own conscience.
All I can tell you for sure is that if you don't support your own cause Your cause is not likely to be successful.
In our television project there is a new technology out that CNN is already using.
It's the first time that top-of-the-line broadcasting technology is available to people like you and I for a price.
What would normally cost around a half a million dollars now you can get for between six and fifteen thousand and I'm not joking ladies and gentlemen when you watch CNN tonight you're seeing the same technology being used on CNN as I am talking about right now over a year ago Pooh and I went to a video
A video expo in Los Angeles.
And all of the newest, greatest, most expensive, most beautiful, fantastic television and video equipment was there on display.
And the thing that caught everyone's eye, and caught my eye, and caught Pooh's eye, and caught just everybody was drooling over this, was something called Trinity.
And as we watched the demonstration take place in front of our eyes with the most beautiful video pictures and overlays and artificial sets automatically created behind the person who was doing the talking.
For instance, on CNN, when you see someone standing in front of the White House and the dome, the Capitol Dome, or the White House Dome, or the Capitol Dome, I guess it's the Capitol Dome I'm talking about, when you see somebody standing in Washington DC and you see the Capitol Dome
right behind them, you're looking at Trinity Technology. When you see on C-SPAN and in other
places people talking and then all of a sudden the bar across the bottom with their name
and their affiliations and all kinds of things, that's Trinity Technology. When you
see CNN and you see a television or a stock ticker going across the bottom, that's Trinity
Technology.
It can be done with other things that cost like a half a million dollars to set up a studio to be able to do these things in what's called broadcast technology or broadcast quality television.
But now an enterprising young corporation called Play Incorporated has created this technology that equals and in many respects is even better Then this $500,000 studio that you would have to have previously to do it has created a technology to where you can do it for between $06,000 and $15,000.
You can spend more on it if you want.
But that will do us just fine.
And so we had planned to purchase it.
And just a few days ago we realized that they were having a promotional sale Where we could buy the basic system, the basic system that would give us the most beautiful television capability, put it right in our hands, in our lap, so to speak, that we ever imagined we could ever have for $2,000 less than it would have cost us the day before, and that it will cost us again January the 1st and after.
And I look for a price raise, too, in the near future as people begin to discover this fantastic technology and begin to purchase it for major television networks and television stations across the country.
CNN is already using it, as I've told you, and several others.
But we didn't have the money.
And I knew that even when we got the money, It would be neat if we could save $2,000, save our listeners $2,000, be able to purchase it for less than what we had counted on having to pay.
And so we tried to lease it, and because of our peculiar situation, which you all are aware of, no leasing company would touch it with a ten-foot pole.
And so we had to have cash, and we had to have cash tomorrow.
And that was yesterday that I was thinking of all of this stuff.
So yesterday it was the day after tomorrow.
Today it's tomorrow.
The cash has to be in their hands tomorrow.
But I was thinking of everybody in the world who might help us with this.
Because the contributions had trickled in for the TV fund, we only have $625.
Long way from the money that we needed.
Long way.
Bye.
You see, what we needed would have cost us, ladies and gentlemen, $8,000.
If we could get the money to them tomorrow, it would only cost us $6,000.
Now, when I'm saying only $6,000, compared to $8,000, only $6,000 is really, really good.
And around here, I've got to tell you, $2,000 is an awful lot of money.
So I was thinking of one particular person who might have the money, who might help us out, and I had asked Annie for the phone number and she was running around the house frantically searching for the phone number.
That was today.
Last night, when I went to bed, I stayed up quite late worrying about this, thinking about it.
What are we going to do?
Are we really going to have to pay $8,000 for this equipment?
Dear God, it would be so wonderful if we could get it for six and save that two thousand dollars.
And then last night I finally went to bed with no solution in my mind and I said a prayer.
And I said a prayer to Jesus, the bright morning star, and I wished upon that star with all my might that today I would have an answer.
And Annie was running around frantically today looking for that phone number, ladies and gentlemen.
The phone rang.
I picked it up.
And guess who it was?
It was Rick.
The person that I had thought of that had come into my mind that Annie was frantically running around looking for his phone number and could not find.
We found his address and his fax number, but we couldn't find his phone number, and our fax doesn't work.
He called right at that moment.
And I said, thank God.
Thank God.
I said, you'll never guess what's going on here.
And he said, why?
And I said, Ann, he's running around looking for your phone number.
And you called right out of the blue.
And he said, oh really?
Well, I was thinking of you because Here's what he said to me, he said, we're putting together an internet site, a network if you will, that will carry audio and video broadcasting and we want your show to be on it.
I said, you mean the audio show, the hour of the time?
He said, both!
Audio and video!
I said, you know Rick, this is just incredible because I was trying to call you because there's a piece of equipment that we absolutely have to have To make our television project come to pass, to work.
And we need $6,000 and we don't have it.
He said, when do you need it?
I said, we have to have it in their hands by tomorrow.
Which means it has to be federally expressed overnight.
He said, let's do it.
He said, I'll get my office on conference call and we'll do it right now.
And he did.
And so the company called me and said that Rick's office had called him and assured them the money was on the way and that the unit had been ordered into production and should reach us sometime during the last week of January.
So now you know how things work around here.
If God didn't want us to do this television project, that would never, ever in a million years have happened.
But if God wanted us to do this, He would have to make it happen.
And if God wanted us to do this, He would have to make it happen.
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Let me love you, I'll be loving you,
Day by day, Day by day,
Day by day, Oh dear Lord,
We sing the prayer, To keep you close to me,
Love you more dearly, While you are near me,
Day by day.
Oh, dear love, we sing the same.
You'll see me more clearly.
I wanna be with you, wanna be with you baby Day by day, day by day, day by day
Oh, you are the single ray You see the love we need
Oh, dear love, if we stay the same You'll see me walk with you, love will always be near me
You're the one we need Why don't you love me?
I will be loving you, baby Day by day, day by day, day by day
Day by day Day by day
Day by day I'll be there when we reach the day
Oh, dear love, if we stay the same You'll see me walk with you, love will always be near me
You see me more clearly When I think of you
See me more clearly Love me more clearly
See me more clearly Love me more clearly
Love me more clearly Day by day
Day by day Day by day
By day And what is the rose, ladies and gentlemen?
What does the rose represent?
Anybody got an answer to that?
What is the representation which is symbolized by a slowly opening American Beauty Rose.
520-333-4578.
There was other good news today also.
Craig Smith called.
He wanted to know when we're going on the air with television because he wants to help us out by sponsoring the show.
You see how these things work?
Good evening, you're on the air.
Um, uh, to answer your question about, uh, the American Judy Rose and Red Rose?
Yes?
It has many meanings.
Um, um, one that comes to mind is, uh, naturally the, uh, uh, the, uh, plural symbol of the International Socialist, uh, Society.
But it, but it, uh, also, I believe, uh, personified perfection.
That's correct.
And what was the goal of the Lodge of the Illuminati?
The perfected man.
The perfected man.
And what did they call themselves?
The Illuminists.
The Illumined Ones.
The Illumined Ones.
But before that became their handle, so to speak, they called themselves the Perfectibilists.
Oh, oh, okay.
Yes, that's right.
I remember that now.
Yes.
The fangled red rose, the bud opening up slowly, stands for, represents perfection.
Do I win a prize?
Thank you.
the perfection of the human race, the ultimate evolution of man into God, the apotheosis
of humanity, or international socialism.
Yes, you're absolutely correct.
Do I win a prize?
Well, you certainly win my respect and admiration.
Thank you. You've always had mine.
As you probably are getting the gifts of it, we don't have anything around here to give anybody.
I know, I was just teasing you when I said that.
Otherwise, there would be a prize.
But actually, that's the best prize I could ask for, to tell you the truth.
Well, thank you very much.
Thank you.
Thanks for calling.
So, you see folks, it also stands for the secret destiny of America.
because those who created this country created it to topple the kings and queens from off
their thrones by giving the common man liberty and if the common man proves worthy and could
keep his liberty his freedom then that would be the new world order if he could not then
it would mean he would have to be controlled to be literally re-enslaved because he would
be a danger to himself and to the rest of the world and so the Illuminati are doing
that now because the common man has proven that he more or less is exactly what they
say that he is.
Thank you.
Sheep or cattle.
Here's their tenet.
A nation, a world of people who will not use their intelligence are no better than animals that do not have intelligence Such people are beasts of burden and stakes on the table by choice and consent.
We are the wolves, and if they will be sheep, someone will eat them, why not us?
They are our legal and lawful prey.
So you see, they gave us the most precious of gifts Liberty and freedom, and said, here, in the words of Benjamin Franklin, when he was asked, Ben, what have you wrought?
He said, a republic, if you can keep it.
They gave it to us on a silver platter, and we have given it back.
If you really want to know what's wrong with America, If you really want to know what's happening to our country, if you really want to know why, go in your bathroom, close your door, and look yourself in the mirror.
The reason I told you to close your door is so that nobody will see the consternation on your brow when you discover what the problem really is.
In the immortal words of Pogo, we have found the enemy.
as they are us.
Some say love is a river that runs a tangerine.
Some say love is a river that leads your soul to sleep.
Some say love is a wonder, an endless pain I say love is a flower, and you can feel its only heat
It's the heart that fears the breaking That never learns to grab the hand that holds it.
It's the heart that fears the breaking That never learns to grab the hand that holds it.
It's a dream afraid of waking.
I could never take the chance.
Mr. One, you won't be fading.
Who cannot see the end And the soul afraid of dying
Who never learns to live When the life is easy and lonely
As it always has been through the long you
When you think of love, it comes to me.
Oh, the laughter.
And for the song.
For the time, just remember In the winter
Far beneath the silver stars I'll be the tree
That lives across the sky We can grow.
I'm alive and still too hungry I'm alive and still too hungry
I'm alive and still too hungry I'm alive and still too hungry
Just remember in the winter How the heat is to the core Like the sea that with the sunsets in the spring
It comes back around I'm alive
Okay folks, time for more questions.
You heard the song.
Now let's break it down, find out if you are listening and pay attention.
In the song, it says That love is reserved for the lucky or the strong.
What are they talking about?
Who is the lucky or the strong?
520-333-4578.
You're going to learn an awful lot tonight.
And you're going to learn to pay attention to what you hear on the radio from now on.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Good evening Bill.
Do you know the answer?
The lucky are the strong?
No, no, no, no, no.
No.
The adepts are the initiates, are the sons of light, are the brotherhood of men.
That's the answer to one question I'm going to ask you tonight, but that's not the answer to this one.
This is oppressed humanity crying out because they feel they've been wrong.
And love, they can't have love.
Love is reserved only for the lucky or the strong.
Okay.
Does that give you a clue?
Uh, a better lesson.
Okay.
Thanks.
Thanks for calling.
Thanks for participating.
520-333-4578 is the number.
If you know the answer or think you know the answer, call.
It doesn't hurt to be wrong, but it's wrong not to participate.
Because remember folks, when we open the phones on this broadcast, it's a participation thing.
Without your participation, we can't make this work.
I'm doing this to help open your eyes so that you will see.
And by golly, all through a lot of the classic literature, and I'm not talking just about the Bible, it makes reference to let those who can see, see, and those who can hear, hear.
And if you can't see or hear, You're pretty helpless in the flood of those who can.
520-333-4578.
What are they talking about in this song when they say, love is only for the lucky or the strong?
Hello?
Anybody home?
520-333-4578.
520-333-4578.
Call me up and take a guess, you know?
I can wait for you for a long time.
We have another hour and a half to go.
520-333-4578 is the number.
It's an easy question.
What does it mean when it says love is reserved only for the lucky or the strong?
Remember what we're talking about.
Remember the subject of the song.
The title is The Rose.
Good evening.
you're on the air.
Yeah, so, uh, would that be the leaders? Those who, uh, lead us?
I need you to talk a lot louder, please.
Yes, that was a symbol to the rest of the world that he is a socialist.
I need you to talk a lot louder, please.
Yes, that was a symbol to the rest of the world that he is a socialist.
That's what he was telling the world when he posed for that picture holding one red
American Beauty Rose.
And it wasn't an open rose, it was a rosebud.
And so the lucky and the strong, are they those who would need us?
Well that's one thing you could call it.
How about the wealthy?
How about the middle class?
How about the people that have more than me and I want it but I'm too lazy to work for
it or for some reason I can't get it?
Maybe it's not even my fault, but I want it, and I'm jealous of them, and I don't think they should have all of that.
I think they should give some of it to me.
How about that?
I remember seeing in the book, Scarlet and the Beast, they showed an old issue of New Age magazine, which was the Freemasons magazine, and the cross with a red rose around it.
Well, there is an English history.
By the way, John of the Bible, who wrote John and the book of Revelation,
Yes?
did you believe that he was an idiot?
Yes, there's no doubt about it.
If you ever study the mysteries and you read the esoteric concealed message in the book of John and in the book of Revelations, there's no doubt about it.
Paul as well, yes.
In fact, Paul is even more blatant than John.
Paul just, he just comes out and just admits it to anybody who knows anything about the
symbology of the mysteries.
Q. Have you seen the information put out by a guy named Al Neal for the Prophecy Club?
A. No.
Q. He's put out some mind-blowing information about the Bible, such as in Psalms 118 and
Psalm 109.
A. No.
Q. And he's also been in touch with the people who are in the Bible, and he's been in touch
with the people who are in the Bible, and he's been in touch with the people who are
in the Bible, and he's been in touch with the people who are in the Bible, and he's
been in touch with the people who are in the Bible, and he's been in touch with the people
who are in the Bible, and he's been in touch with the people who are in the Bible, and
available, such as in Psalms 118.
It's the very center of the Bible. It's kind of like the whole Bible is a pyramid.
The very center is the mention of the cornerstone in Psalm 118.
Yes.
The cornerstone could be the top of the pyramid.
Well, who else is... what else is the cornerstone?
Well, it's... oh, Jesus.
Jesus.
Right.
I was the one that called up and said that at the beginning of the show, right?
Preachers hate to talk to me.
Missionaries hate to talk to me.
Because I ask them questions they can't answer.
And I point out things that they never knew.
And it drives them crazy.
I don't mean to hurt them.
I don't want to hurt them.
And I'm certainly not trying to tell them that they're wrong.
All I'm trying to do is point out to them that in their ignorance, they have no right to preach to me.
By the way, your signal from Maine is fading out very rapidly.
And I'm right in Connecticut.
I'm only a few hundred miles away from Maine.
Well, that could be because of the skip.
I've heard someone say that the word Monticello, uh, this signal comes from Monticello, Maine.
Yeah.
Does Monticello have some esoteric meaning to it?
Well, it does, yes.
But that's not the subject of tonight's broadcast.
OK.
Thanks for calling.
So, they're talking about oppressed people who feel that they don't get any of the love.
And in all of these things, if you listen to John Lennon's song, Imagine, He's painting a picture that to someone who is ignorant and doesn't understand how life really works, they would think that the world that John Lennon is painting is the most incredibly beautiful, wonderful world that you can imagine.
No responsibility.
No duties.
You don't have to work.
There's no religion.
You don't have to answer to any moral code or anything.
You know?
But they don't bother to think it out.
Who's going to take care of them?
And if somebody's taking care of them, don't they then become their daddy?
And don't you have to answer to your daddy?
And when you're at home, what was the thing that you most wanted to do in your whole life?
Even though you loved your daddy, you wanted to get out from under his control and get out on your own.
Socialists don't think these things do.
They equate wealth with love.
Love in this song is wealth, ladies and gentlemen.
Wealth.
They believe it's life itself.
And so they call it love.
It appeals to people.
They fall in love with the song and the words to the song and they have no idea what they're listening to or what it means.
The lucky are the strong.
Those are the people who have made it in life.
They've struggled.
They've conquered.
They have made a place for themselves.
They have a home.
They have a meal on the table.
They are the lucky or the strong.
From a socialist point of view, that's a very bad strata of society because they're keeping you from having it.
See, these people never follow it through.
They don't understand nobody's keeping them from having it.
The fact that someone goes out and works hard and makes a place in this world and establishes themselves And is able to bring home the bread for the family and put a roof over their head and clothe them and have a car and a television if they want to?
That's not depriving someone else of having it.
Because they have the same opportunity.
The same opportunity in this country today.
Everyone has exactly the same opportunity.
I don't care who you are.
I don't care what your story is.
I will not listen to any white.
I'm black.
My parents were poor.
I'm just poor white Christ.
I never had a chance.
Bologna.
It's a lot.
I'm handicapped.
I'm handicapped.
So what?
I got one leg.
I can show you paraplegics who are making their own way in this world, earning their
own money, doing quite nicely, thank you.
Because they would not accept being told that they were helpless and that they were going to be somebody's dependent for the rest of their life.
They figured out a way to make a living.
Yes, holding a pencil in their mouth, pecking on a computer, the rest of their body dead, lifeless, useless, but not worthless.
And if you really want to take a look at somebody, look at Stephen Hawking, one of the greatest minds in the world,
teaches in Oxford.
Read his book.
.
Read his books, I should say.
And then tell me how helpless you are.
It is a lie.
It's all in your own mind.
It is the wine.
It is the wine.
Wine.
And I don't mean W-I-N-E that comes in a bottle.
I mean the wine.
W-H-I-N-E.
of a lazy person who does not want to pull his or her load.
Children, if you will, what is the winter?
What is the winter that they're talking about?
520-333-4578.
520-333-4578 In the winter, far beneath the bitter snow
what is the winter they're talking about?
520-333-4578.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Hey Bill, I had to leave a short wave.
Did you get an answer for the question about the rose?
Yes, now we're asking what is the winter?
What is signified by the winter in the song?
Oh dear, that I don't know.
I was going to say as far as the rose is concerned, Rosicrucianism.
Well, no.
No, those are the rows impaled upon the cross.
That stands, well that's another thing that I've covered before in the Mystery Series, but we'll talk about that another night.
Right now I need to know, what does the winter signify in the Song of the Rose?
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Participate.
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And if you get it wrong, you should not be embarrassed.
Most people in this entire world don't know the answer to this question.
But I know that some of you in this audience do.
If you've been listening to this broadcast for as many years as I've been doing it, you know what it means.
The winter.
The winter, ladies and gentlemen.
What is the winter?
The winter of our discontent.
The winter could be said to be the dark ages.
The winter could be said to be a capitalistic society that crowns upon socialism.
The winter could be living under a king or in a republic.
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Hi, yes again.
Um, I believe that the winter here refers to being obscured.
They have to remain in obscurity to achieve their goals.
You got it.
That's exactly right.
Okay.
It means living in a society that will not accept socialism.
Does not accept it.
So you have to go underground.
And where is underground?
You got the answer to that too.
What's the rest of that verse?
Um, can you repeat the verse please?
In the winter, far beneath the bitter snow.
Oh, what's the bitter snow?
Yeah.
Mmmmm.
What's the bitter snow?
Coldness.
Cast them out.
The fact that they're ostracized?
Yes.
But what is it that's doing it?
What do they refer to as the bitter snow?
The coldness that will not accept them?
Well, there's the people that they wish to win over or dominate.
Yeah, they don't ever believe they want to win anybody over.
The whole goal of socialism is domination.
It is not equality of the masses.
No, but as we see the pattern develop now, they do try to win people over through the buzzword of love, the people who love.
Only we have the compassion and the loving compassion, but it's only a use or a route to eventually dominate them.
Who do they hate more than anybody else in the world?
People who think.
you People who think, yes.
But not on an intellectual level.
Well, you're kind of on the right track, but you're sort of off of it also.
It's individuality.
Okay, very good.
I like that answer.
Individuality.
Republican government.
Yeah.
As a matter of fact, I was reading an article today.
Ray Harrison of New York Post, he said something about America being a democracy.
It just goes to show you Well, you can get away from it.
Come to my house.
It's never, never mentioned here.
Well, neither at my house either, but, you know, but, but, and, and, you know, you're so right when you say, whenever you hear Bill Clinton talk about, you know, anything, it's always about democracy.
And, um, I posed a bet to a friend one time that it would be interesting to see that if during all, you know, he, you know, during every major speech he makes that's not required of him, the State of the Union address or his report, Well, no, let's stick to the problem at hand here.
Thanks for calling.
Thank you.
Okay, who has an explanation for the bitter snow?
What is the bitter snow?
I was wondering if anybody has any thoughts on that idea.
Well, let's stick to the problem at hand here.
Thanks for calling.
Thank you.
Okay, who has an explanation for the bitter snow?
What is the bitter snow?
The bitter snow.
Remember when somebody, I don't know if all of you ever used this or not, but we certainly
did in my youth, or in my younger days I should say.
If somebody was trying to fool you, they were giving you a snow job, weren't they?
A snow job.
So what is the bitter snow?
Anybody got an answer for that?
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Somebody was trying to fool you?
They were casting over the truth a layer of snow.
The snow hides things, doesn't it?
The whole world looks different after a snowfall than it did before, and than it will afterward.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Yes, Bill.
The bitter snow would really be social to socialists.
Socialism.
The bitter snow is socialism, yes.
And it's covered up with a deception, isn't it?
And underneath this deception is the secret, the real secret, that they're hiding from the rest of the world.
Which is extremely bitter.
Yes.
That's my comment.
Okay.
Thank you.
What is the seed?
In the midst of winter, beneath the bitter snow, lies a seed.
Lies a seed.
What is the seed, folks?
The bitter snow is the fact that they have to exist in secrecy behind a veil of deception.
It's bitter.
They don't like it.
It's hard.
They can't live in their perfected society.
But what is the seed?
What is the seed, ladies and gentlemen, that they're talking about?
In the winter, far beneath the bitter snow, lies a seed.
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Who's got the answer?
Who has even what they think might be part of the answer?
Give me a call right now.
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What is the seed, ladies and gentlemen?
What is the seed?
ladies and gentlemen. What is the seed? The seed. Remember in the mysteries I gave you all this before.
What does Osiris represent?
Osiris represents the doctrine.
Isis represents the church.
The mystical union between the doctrine and the church produces the what?
Good evening, you're on the air.
Yeah, hi Bill.
Hi.
Would the seed be socialism?
No, the seed is not socialism.
The seed is... Well, did you hear what I just said about Osiris and Isis?
No, I had the radio turned off.
Okay, well, Osiris in the Mysteries, if you listen to my series in the Mysteries, you know that Osiris represents the secret doctrine.
Isis represents the church or the lodge.
When the secret doctrine is revealed and practiced in the church or the lodge in secrecy,
it is a mystical union which produces what?
What is the child of Isis and Osiris?
Uh, Horus?
Horus!
And what does Horus represent?
Uh, the lost word of prehistory?
It represents the Adepts.
The Illuminati.
Okay.
The children who are working behind the veil of a thousand points of light in the winter, far beneath the bitter snow.
Lines of seed that with the sun's love... What is the sun's love?
Do you know that?
Spelled S-U-N-S.
Right, well, okay, then the seed would be all that come into fruition?
No, the seed is the Illuminati.
They're the seed that has been planted with the mystical union between the doctrine and the church, Isis and Osiris, from which will sprout the New World Order.
Their work will bring it about.
They are the seed.
They are the children of the light.
You got it?
Okay.
You're welcome.
God bless you, too.
What is the Son's love?
In the winter, far beneath the bitter snow, lies a seed that with the sun's love... 520-333-4578 What does the sun represent, ladies and gentlemen?
What does the sun represent?
You all know the answer to that.
What do we call the Illuminati?
The philosophers of what?
And what does that what stand for?
What is the sun?
The representation of the sun in the heaven?
Hello?
Anybody home?
520-333-4578.
I can't believe I've been teaching you for this many years and nobody knows the answer to these things.
These are basic questions that were covered in every episode of the Mystery Series.
Somebody chickened out.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Yes, Bill.
This is Annette in Barnesboro.
Annette, I need you to talk a lot louder.
I can barely hear you.
I'm sorry.
The sun represents the light, doesn't it?
The light?
But what is the light?
Well, Lucifer.
What did Lucifer do?
What is the metaphor in the Garden of Eden?
What was the like?
What did Prometheus give to mankind?
Well, I don't know about Prometheus.
Prometheus is Lucifer.
It's just another metaphor for Lucifer.
I see.
Well, he, according to my understanding, Lucifer produced Eve and produced Cain.
Nope, that's wrong.
Remember, we're talking in the mysteries.
We're not talking about what you believe in your personal religion.
Uh-huh.
Well... We're talking about the people who follow the teachings of the New World Order.
They don't believe in God or Lucifer or the Devil or any of that.
They believe that these are all metaphors for secret esoteric truths.
Well, then I must say that that is a layer below the higher address, because the higher address No, they don't.
They believe that man is God.
That's their whole premise.
Man is God.
And through the use of what this Son's love represents, man will conquer the universe and will live forever.
That's the promise of Lucifer in the Garden of Eden.
Ye shall be as God, then ye will not surely die.
You're trying to mix the teachings of the Mystery Schools with what you believe in your personal religion, and the two are not synonymous.
Well, as I mentioned earlier today, it's just a counterfeit of the real thing.
No, that's what you believe in your personal religion.
And you're entitled to believe that.
But in their writings, that the world that they are going to bring into being, Annette, what you believe in your personal religion has absolutely nothing to do with the teachings in the mystery religions.
It has absolutely nothing to do with the world that they wish to bring about.
Annette, that's what you believe in your religion!
You must keep...
That what they teach at different levels is not the same thing.
What I am revealing to you tonight is what is taught at the very highest level.
Well, this is not the place to dispute that, but I would like to mention something.
When you had said that they brought us the Republic as an experiment, what you were indicating is that the Illuminati gave us America.
And I would disagree with that.
I believe that there was a time... You're entitled to disagree with it.
Well, I mean, I believe that... But this is not the subject of tonight's broadcast.
I see.
I see.
Alright, then.
Ladies and gentlemen, let me say this again.
I've said it a million times.
I'm not here to argue your personal theology.
Do you know how many churches there are in this world and how many different religions?
And all of them claim that all the rest of them are wrong and only they are right.
What I'm talking about to you tonight has nothing to do with any of those religions.
And I have done the research.
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