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1992, but it has never been aired.
And, in fact, it is part one of a four-part series that was never aired anywhere.
And, uh, it's pretty old.
It's an interview with Vladimir Terziski, and it's about space and UFOs and all that kind of stuff.
So, once again, tonight's broadcast of The Hour of the Time was originally taped on July 27, 1992, as part one of a four-part series of interviews with Vladimir Terziski.
This series was never aired on the Hour of the Time, or anywhere for that matter.
Nobody has ever heard this before.
So, sit back, relax.
I don't even remember what it is except that it covers tonight's topic.
Oh, yes, and I will be the one to see you die.
Oh, yes, and I will be the one to see you die.
July 27 1992 I am your host William Cooper the quandtronics.
Call us at info.com or at narcosysiopariam1.
Love, Lorraine Lou.
In case you just turned in, ladies and gentlemen, this is a broadcast that was originally taped
in a hotel room in San Diego, as a matter of fact, on July 27, 1992, as a four-part
series of interviews with Vladimir Tsherdzisky.
This series was never aired anywhere.
Nobody has ever heard it before.
And aside from remembering that it has to do with tonight's space topic, I don't really remember what it's about.
So we should all enjoy listening to this tape, and if tonight's is productive, we'll do the whole series for the
next three Friday nights.
So we should all enjoy listening to this tape, and if tonight's is productive, we'll do the whole series for the
next three Friday nights.
I'm going to be with the quiet music on.
Take me there, take me to where the music's loud.
Take me there, take me to where the music's loud.
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the world.
Hey, young love, I want you to touch me by your sweetest side.
Play it for me.
Don't let me go.
Get out of my loving heart.
Wherever, wherever, wherever you are.
Take me there.
Take me with you to your love.
Take me there.
Keep me there, keep me with you.
Well, once again, welcome to the hour of the time.
The only hour that ever was, ever will be, or that ever is.
This is the hour during which you will decide your future, and thus our collective futures.
Tonight we have a very special guest with us.
And we're going to be talking about suppressed technology that was developed many years ago and has been kept hidden from the general populations of not only this country, but the world.
We've talked a little bit about this on other episodes of The Hour of the Time, but tonight we're going to go back to the origins.
We're going to talk about it in depth, where it came from, who's developed it, is it real, is it not real?
By now those of you who have been listening to this show for some time probably have realized that once again we're going to talk about UFOs.
I first met this gentleman during my lecture tours several years ago when I began to notice that right in front of my podium in the first row the same gentleman seemed to be following me around the country and always had very penetrating questions to ask.
We eventually struck up a conversation, got to know each other, and I found that behind the beard was a very good brain that was working all the time.
Some of his research has parallels mine, and he certainly knows a lot more about some parts of this mystery than I do.
And that's what we want to get at tonight.
We want to sort of pick his brain and get to what he knows.
About this mystery called UFOs.
His name is Vladimir Terziski and he is originally from Bulgaria.
And Vladimir, welcome to the Hour of the Times.
Thank you very much, Bill.
I'm very happy to be a part of this great show.
Probably one of the best shows on the West Coast.
Thank you.
Definitely a non-American show without any commercials.
intellectual show that would make people to think something that sort of happened here
more easily than one can find such a show in Europe for example. Well you know a lot about
that because you come from a country that was traditionally you weren't allowed to have any
freedom of speech at all were you?
And that's exactly how we learned to look for good shows.
We'll listen to Radio Moscow, we'll listen to Radio Vatican, to the BBC, to Voice of America, to Deutsche Welle, and we will compare their versions of the story.
And this is how people in Eastern Europe learn the ABC of practical conspiratology.
How the lies are put together with widespread.
Never ever the versions are totally coincidental.
Always there will be a little difference.
How did you...
To be in the United States.
What brought you here?
Well, I came as a political refugee in 1985.
Spent a year in a refugee camp in Vienna.
Studied German at the Vienna University at the time, waiting for my visa.
Arrived in Arizona in 1985.
Studied one year of Sociology at the Arizona State University and continued for two more years at UCLA.
But what brought me here was my dissatisfaction with my own country after spending four years of studies in Japan.
I studied physics and engineering at Tokai University from 74 to 1980.
Coming back from Japan into an Eastern European country, and Bulgaria in particular fights with Romania for the place before the last place in Europe, just ahead of Albania.
It's a highly developed European country, so the shock, the cultural and technological shock would be tremendous for someone coming back from Japan into such a country.
Very good.
Let's get into the subject of tonight's talk.
Where in history have you found the first real technology that may have led to what we now call unidentified flying objects, flying saucers, UFOs, all these different names that people have labeled these things that we see in the air?
Well Bill, just with three sentences, my interest in UFOs was Exploded while I was in Japan.
Japan is an extremely open society about UFOs.
On primetime television, one would see documentary films that would never be shown in the United States.
From all over the world.
From Australia, from the United States, from Europe.
And being an engineer, and being fascinated as a small child with aviation, I developed a very deep interest into the anti-gravity parts of the UFO equation.
How the hell do these I remember the first ever volume of the encyclopedia I picked up when my father subscribed for the Great Russian or the Great Soviet Encyclopedia was the volume on aviation.
This was my first encyclopedic search before I ever went to primary school.
I was 5 at the time.
I've been fascinated with flying contraptions.
So after I developed my interest in UFOs in Japan, that was in the late 70s.
After arrival in the United States in 1985, I started avidly reading books, journals about UFOs, collecting a vast video library.
I have about 200 documentary films about UFOs from all over the world.
I'm fluent in Japanese, Russian, German, English, and I can read technical texts in some other European languages, so I don't have any problem for using documentaries from these countries.
And about a year and a half ago I heard the first rumors that the dreamers had developed some anti-gravity flying machines of a circular or lenticular form that we colloquially call flying saucers.
I'd been fascinated with anti-gravity before that and I thought that I had discovered some of the big secrets of anti-gravity.
Subsequently, I realized that the Germans had utilized all of the secret and very simple engineering devices that took off successfully and were tested before the war ended.
Was there any sense of this going back farther in history?
I know during the 1800s in the newspaper accounts in the United States, There are stories of a giant, basically a giant, nobody really knows how big this thing was, but it was an airship that went across the country.
A ghost airship.
Well, not a ghost, because this thing actually landed.
People got out and talked to people.
It can be found in... Yeah, that's the label they use about them in the UFO literature, but it's a very important question about how technology is generally developed on a planet.
I am of the opinion that sacred societies, hermetic sciences, sacred brotherhood, have been keeping, safekeeping, safeguarding, developing, and using elite knowledge that has not been accessible to the general public for the last five, six thousand years.
So, I would say nothing new under the sun.
It is not the humans that developed anti-gravity first.
The first report about a workable flying anti-gravity machine that I heard was of the American John Keely, a genius of the Tesla and Schauberger type, that lived in the late 1800s.
In 1860, In the early 1860s, he demonstrated a flying, working flying anti-gravity platform to the war ministry.
It was the divisor size of a bathtub with a lever, control lever sticking on top of it.
He put a chair on top of that device, sat in the chair, pulled the lever forward, the device rolled silently, noiselessly, then pulled the lever further forward, and it accelerated at tremendous speed horizontally, then stopped at a dime, came backwards, and landed.
All of it, noiselessly, Kumi never fell off the chair, the chair was not bolted to the device.
Uh, the, uh, guys from the War Minutes, we scratched their mug heads and said, well, now we don't see any reason for, any purpose for this device in the future.
So this is the story of... Thank you.
John Keeley is a genius of a very rare kind.
There's a John Seely Society in Colorado.
Anyone who is interested in this rare literature, I will be glad to provide information later on.
My phone number in Los Angeles is 310-473-9717 and I will repeat it one more at the end of the show.
But the John Keeley Society provided me with incredible information.
Actually, he created a whole science of sympathetic vibration.
Something that has been later expunged from the libraries.
John Keeley, the name is not found in any database.
It's not mentioned in any library.
The guy from the John Kealy Society had discovered copies of some of his drawings that obviously
come from a book.
They have page numbers, but the book, they've never been able to locate the book itself.
The book has been removed by the source police from the university and other public libraries.
They may still be found in some private collections or in some dusty attic.
John Keeley created other things including free energy devices.
He built a 250 horsepower free energy locomotive.
He built incredible tunnel-digging, tunnel-boring devices that were using sound.
We can call him the genius of sound vibration.
Through masterful manipulation of sound, one can attain mastery of the lower classes of energies and of matter.
Obviously, it's my understanding that there are hierarchical levels of energies in the universe.
The few interactions that we know of physics, the four in which we speculate about the fifth, the gravitational, the electromagnetic, the weak and the strong interaction, and now physics speculates about the fifth, the opposite of gravitational force.
These are just a small fraction of A large number of energies in interaction that exist in the universe.
And John Keeley was able somehow to tap to one of these, the magic of sound.
Another report that I know of the late 1800s is, of course, the information coming about Nikola Tesla.
Nikola Tesla was another genius of the Keeley and Schauberger type.
Someone who would receive his ideas in basically a finished version.
All he had to do is put the idea on paper and then the guys in the shop had to put the paper into metal.
And these things were always working.
Cecil was fuming that... I'm sorry, Edison was fuming that Cecil never read it in the shop, in the lab, but this was the nature of his genius.
He was getting his ideas somewhere from the upper floors of the universe.
In a ready form.
Anyway, Tepfer worked extensively on so many numerous fields of physics that we can call him the genius of electromagnetics.
The oscillating electrical current that we use nowadays is probably the first and the smallest of Tepfer's inventions that he did in the 1870s, 1880s.
What Tepfer did after that had been successfully pushed from public libraries His name has been downplayed.
I've even seen photographs of his image airbrushed away from the photograph.
of a group of scientists at the Institute for Advanced Studies at Princeton, where Einstein happens to be in the same photograph.
Obviously, if someone is in the same photograph with Einstein, then he is not just any scientist.
He's a major scientist.
Anyway, my feeling is that the stories about the Gulf airship of the late 1800s and It's probably true that we have seen secret engineering projects, let's call them black projects, financed through shady financiers, private financiers, by the bankers and the Illuminati and the secret societies behind the scenes.
The fictional book Genesis and its prequel Inception by Harbington are, in my opinion, a very true story, in my humble opinion, a true story of how these secret societies develop new technologies that are never divulged to the public, at least for 50 years.
In that story they have the creation of Airships way before the turn of the century.
They even mention the existence of a turboprop biplane that crossed the Atlantic before the Wright brothers' plane flew.
They even intimate that the Tunguska explosion in I think 1905 or 1908, somewhere there, was actually an explosion of a crude nuclear-powered Flying device of a saucer shape that was created by a brilliant American scientist named Wilson.
Of course, two-thirds of this fictional novel is about the research and development in anti-gravity and the creation of a large family of flying saucers in Germany before and during the Second World War.
Excuse me, but is there any evidence that this was Wilson actually?
This may be a cover-up for another real person that lives.
On the other hand, it's a good question to see whether Harbeson himself knows German.
I have a little suspicion that he just published a brilliant book.
He never followed with anything for ten years.
Uh, and if she doesn't know German, then it would be obvious for me that she just got this material as a big, thick file from somewhere, we all know somewhere, and she was asked to write one nice book, probably a bestseller, because this is one Of the many skeletons in the closets of the secret societies and the government black photographs, they won't eventually be taken out to the public.
They want to wash one more piece of dirty laundry.
Do you think genocide may have been something like missing time or...?
Yes, yes.
In my opinion, the book Genesis, because the part of Genesis that I investigated thoroughly, the part about the German flying saucers, turned out to be many times beyond what was discussed in Genesis.
I mean, the Genesis was a gross understatement of the German anti-gravity and intuition development effort.
Let's go there.
One more item.
So, Tesla is known to have developed anti-gravity using an electromagnetic principle.
John Keeley developed anti-gravity using vibrational sound techniques.
And I have a suspicion that both of these anti-gravity devices were free energy devices.
Namely, flying transformers of energy that would transform types of energy that we have not discovered we know very little about yet into energy that we know about a little bit more and we can use it mechanical work I mean electricity or just mechanical work uh so uh I have a feeling that some of these airships of the late 1800s were the first experimental devices utilizing uh the list of
Hydrogen and possibly helium.
And I also have a suspicion that they may have had some hybrid anti-gravity drives installed in them because of the strange designs that I see.
I tend to believe in drawings when I see them in the paper because people's eyes are very good optical image processing and data storing mechanism, in my opinion.
Only at the turn of the century, there have been many reports, fortune reports.
Well, the latest of them I read in one of the latest issues of Faith magazine about flying saucers being noticed in many parts of the United States landing and people talking in plain American English and wearing Navy uniforms.
I have a feeling that these are the first and secret black project anti-gravity vehicles developed with Tesla technology by the Navy for the Navy, financed by the secret societies and the bankers.
So, we see a whole line of secret sciences developed.
These are not all the secret sciences that are developed by secret societies.
This is less than 5%, less than 1% of the secret sciences that are developed in parallel in faraway farms by shady financiers.
Uh, by crazy scientists.
My feeling is that probably all the films that, science fiction films that we've seen about crazy scientists and flanking tiny rats are exactly about secret black projects financed by, uh, these racial secret societies.
So, by the time the Germans came to power, I have found at least five instances of anti-gravity craft developed on this planet.
The latest instance is the lenticular aerodyne by Henry Coander, Frenchman.
I have an engineering drawing of this device.
And I repeat, anyone who is interested in more information can give me a call, write me a letter, and I will send full information, faxes, I mean, zero copies of the drawings and so on.
I have several videos on the topic.
Coanda-22 Aerodyne utilized a hybrid helicopter-propeller lift and anti-gravity lift.
It was powered by a turbojet and ramjet.
It was an invention that preceded its time with at least 10-15 years.
So, by the time... What time frame are we talking about?
1930s.
Okay.
Columbus, lenticular, aerodyne.
And my feeling is that by that time, well, Hitler came to power.
It was well established in the scientific community.
of the secret society that anti-gravity is extremely easy to obtain.
That simple spinning of an object would produce anti-gravity.
I came in a roundabout way to the research of German flying saucers.
Initially I started a Should I call it an anthropological study of anti-gravity?
Simply collecting stories, myths, and legends about anti-gravity flying constructions from different places and times.
From academics, from tabloid sources, from ancient astronauts, stories from modern day contemporary accounts, from revelatory books, and so on.
What's been your most interesting story that you've collected?
Actually, the most funny story that I collected was about, it came from a Russian officer, a Russian lieutenant major, two-star officer, who met an extraterrestrial while walking past a Siberian lake.
They invited him for a joyride, popped his brain without any pain.
It was a joyride experience, not a forceful abduction.
He consented to that and was extremely happy.
At the end, they wanted to delete his brain because this is, well, the code of the universe.
You do not leave any traces of your vegetation.
He didn't want to part with this pleasurable experience, so with his typical cunning Russian deceitfulness of a
cunning Russian president, She started desperately to try to find a way to deceive them.
And she came with a very usual thought.
What else but Vodka?
So she said, you know guys, upon parting we have a very well established custom.
We always drink with our friends.
Great, so what do you drink?
Well, we drink Vodka.
What is Vodka?
She had a hard time remembering the chemical formula of alcohol for his high school days.
Then he wrote, they told him he can write with his finger on the wall of the craft and use it as a blackboard.
He wrote the formula, they quickly synthesized the liquid.
Came back with a strange looking cup, only one cup, and gave it to him.
He asked him, well, aren't you going to drink with me too?
And they said, oh, no, no, no.
If we were to drink this liquid, we would have never reached this level of evolution that we are on right now.
But he can drink it.
So he quickly drank the liquid.
When they put him on the bench to delete his memory, they figured, ah, seeing the puzzled voice of the operator of the consul, he said, I don't know what to delete.
All his centers of brain activity are brightly lit obviously because of the vodka so he just deleted whatever he thought were the memories of his abduction experience and they were mistaken they deleted parts of his childhood experiences he forgot some missing months of his army service and so on but he remembers this whole abduction and the whole joyride
And the answer to his question, well, how do flying saucers fly?
He said, oh, very simple.
It's a spinning nuclear reactor.
By dipping in and taking out the control rod, you control the lift.
It's one big reactor that spins along a vertical axis that creates the big lift that Take that away from the planet and another small reaction that rotates on a horizontal axis that creates the horizontal propulsion to move us across the horizon.
And many other stories, but this is probably one of the funniest stories of a failed, how should I say, mind delusion, of a failed missing time experience.
My anthropological study of Myths and legends about anti-gravity spanning over several thousand years of racial history have found one common denominator of all stories about anti-gravity myths, namely that simple spinning would create anti-gravity.
One does not need fancy alien hardware, incredible software.
Spinning of any material body fast enough would reduce its weight, When a certain critical revolution rotation of velocity is reached, the body flies away.
Then the question is how to better achieve the spinning with the existing engines of the time.
And this is exactly the question that the German engineers were confronted with.
And basically they use every existing engine of the time.
I have discovered drawings, sketches, and stories of flying saucer devices powered by gasoline engines with propellers, powered by Vanco engines with propellers, I even have a suspicion that the very ventral engine itself was created to power a tank.
Sorry about what we call a vehicle.
So, Van't Hoff, yeah, so Van't Hoff.
And...
...
...this rotational symmetry...
It can be used to spin the craft one way while the piston inside spins the other way.
There's a question of balancing that I haven't figured out yet, but this is just a suspicion of mine.
Beyond the internal combustion engines, the Germans used any other engine that they had.
They tried turbojet engines, pulsejet, ramjet engines, and rocket engines.
They tried them in an outboard configuration and on You're listening to the Hour of the Time.
I'm William Cooper.
We know from the history of German aviation...
You're listening to the Hour of the Time. I'm William Cooper.
This is a broadcast originally recorded on July 27, 1992, in a hotel room in San Diego, California, where I was
speaking, and where Vladimir Terziski, the person being interviewed,
came to hear me speak.
And I actually taped four broadcasts, which were never aired, ladies and gentlemen.
Have never been aired.
You're hearing this material for the first time.
Nobody's ever heard it before.
I'm hearing it for the first time since it was taped.
I have not played these since they've been taped.
I can't remember why they didn't air, and it's fascinating.
It's interesting, and I don't believe all of this stuff, and neither should you.
Remember, listen to everyone, read everything, believe absolutely nothing unless you can prove it in your own research.
But it's interesting, and I happen to know that Vladimir Shklovsky is a very, very intelligent, very, very highly educated young man.
And so here's part two of tonight's hour.
Well, the person inside seems the other way.
There's a question of balancing that I haven't figured out yet, but this is just a suspicion of mine.
Beyond the internal combustion engines, the Germans used any other engine that they had.
Heinkel, I think, two eleven people's fighters.
It was built hastily in few months and it had the engine sitting on top of the fuselage.
So, hasty outboard engine attachment is nothing new to anyone who is well aware of the advanced research and development in aviation, end of aviation.
Later on they developed inboard engine.
I would mention several of the models that were built by the Germans.
Actually, the first model that they built was the flying saucer built by Schriever in the early 40s, 40-41.
It was a hybrid model between a helicopter lift And apply an anti-gravity lift.
The thing looked like a giant ferris wheel, 15 meters diameter, about 45 feet diameter disc, spinning along a vertical axis.
The cabin was in the center of the whole creation, gyroscopically stabilized so that the powers would not spin into insanity with The whole class.
And around that cabin, we had this huge disc spinning.
The disc had multiple helicopter propeller blades that could change their pitch in order to control for the lifting power.
And the information that I have is that at a time of takeoff or sharp angle high G maneuvers, the needed RPMs were around 1500-1600.
Well, at a steady state, horizontal speed or hovering, it could get by with only 600 RPM per minute.
This wheel was spun into action initially by turbojet engines.
The Germans utilized the standard Messerschmitt 262 jet fighter engine, developed by... One of them was developed by BFW, the other one was developed by Junkers, the Jumo 002 engine.
Three engines were spinning the disk around the vertical axis, and two more engines, attached under the stationary cabin, were propelling the whole device forward.
Later on, of course, the first attempt crashed because of tremendous wobbling and vibration.
They were not able to fine-tune and illuminate the vibrations with this huge spinning construction.
Later on, they solved the problem and the first disc reached a speed of 2,000 kilometers an hour, about 1,300 miles an hour, almost 5 kilometers an hour.
The rumor is that Stephen A. Marshall-Gerling rode one of the disks.
Later on, the Germans attached rocket engines, particularly the Baltar rocket engine, and several variations of it, that increased the horizontal speed to 3,000 and, successfully, 4,000 kilometers an hour, which is more than three times the speed of sound.
Probably, these were small bursts of speed because My feeling is that these initial prototypes were probably made of the same duraluminum that they were using for the ender.
Turbojet plane.
So if they were to push the craft too hard, they would have simply melted it in the atmosphere.
And what year did this occur?
The silver disc was tested from early 1940-41 until 1944-45.
is 40-41 until 40-45. Later models dispense entirely with the helicopter lift and rely
only on the anti-gravity lift created by the spinning house.
The very hull of the saucer was spinning.
Only the cavern in the center of the craft was kept stationary by gyroscopes.
When you say anti-gravity, Vladimir, are you talking about something that really, another force that actually opposes or negates the force of gravity?
Or is it just creating another energy force?
You're talking about a steady mass.
creating some force that allows this to rise and hit the air.
Well, gravity, anti-gravity, energy, electron, mass, these are all labels.
Physical variables, but these are just primitive labels that we attach to things in nature that we are trying to understand.
Higher and more advanced races will probably heartily laugh at our primitive attempts.
More or less wrong.
But still we are trying to have some clarity.
My feeling is that all these labels are just convenient metaphors and tools of our mind.
When I say anti-gravity, let's say that I just mean the ability to negate the pull of gravity.
The ability to... Without the conventional methods that we're used to, such as an airfoil or helicopter blades or something of that nature.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Still, I have to repeat that the first model These are all hybrid models.
Always when we create something new, it would be a hybrid and it would incorporate features of the old and preceding model or technology.
But later on they got rid of the helicopter aerodynamic lift propeller blades entirely for the spinning heavy mass of the fuselage of the body of the craft that was creating this anti-gravity lift.
My feeling is that when a heavy, massive object is turned around a vertical axis, it probably drags around itself the fabric of space-time.
Modern physics would stay away from the word ether, because my concern and more to prove that ether doesn't exist.
But the word fabric of space-time would be used.
Or vacuum, vapors or energy from Well, we know there must be some fabric space, because physics agrees that space can be there.
If you can follow space, there must be something to follow.
Yeah, correct.
Even in very serious physics journals, like Physics of Lazy Letters and Nature and other journals, you will see little by little articles about getting energy from vacuum, which is probably from the fabric of spacetime, which is probably from engines.
Anyway, convenient labels.
Well, my feeling is that working anti-gravity drives probably drag and spin around themselves the fabric of space-time, creating an aesthetic vortex, a whirlwind.
You said something that I find very interesting.
You said the fabric of space-time.
And it's always been my contention that these machines are time machines.
Very good point.
They may introduce little distortions in time that an accurate atomic time clock would measure.
An artificial satellite that has an atomic time clock on board would measure a little delay in time.
Even an atomic time clock spun around the globe on a standard passenger jet plane would show a little delay.
They do interfere with space time.
But if you're talking about a practical time machine that would take us backwards or forwards in time, it would take a little bit more hardware and gadgetry.
But is it still My opinion is that these are technologies that were obtained by both the Germans and this country's government almost half a century ago, but this will be a topic of entirely different discussion.
So, coming back to the German flying machine.
The next, an important model that was built was probably one of the most famous of all models, the so-called Kugelblitz.
Or the Kraut Ball, as it was jokingly called by the Allied pilots.
Or the Kraut Meteor.
Or the Foo Fighter.
Foo Fighter.
The name came probably from the way these machines were swooshing by Many times faster than the speed of the lumbering bombers.
A bomber would make 3, 400 kilometers an hour.
A Messerschmitt would make 6, 650.
A full fighter would make 1,500, 2,000, 2,900 kilometers an hour.
For them, bombers were sitting ducks.
Even fighters were sitting ducks.
So the name full fighter is a very good name.
just conveys the image of the idea of the situation, how fast these machines were pushing
by.
Renato Vesco, who is the, let's call him the Italian Werner von Braun, the research and
development boss of the Italian Air Force before and during the Second World War, and
his brilliant book that was also kind of removed from the libraries and has been stopped from
publication, the book is called Intercept But Don't Shoot or Intercept UFO, originally
published in Italian and probably shortened in its British review.
Even more shortened in its American relief.
I have a copy of the book where he says basically the same thing that you're saying.
Exactly.
In his book, he trades the whole development of anti-gravity in Germany, but he's cut short of many interesting developments.
He's basically talking about the lower 1, 2, 3 levels of this research and development pyramid, omitting the most interesting top levels, top tiers of research.
Don't you think that in the position that he occupied with the Italian government, that
it was probably wise of him to do that?
Maybe he couldn't write more.
What he wrote about was incredible to me.
And he documented every bit of it.
He listed... He knew what we were talking about.
Yes, absolutely.
And he's a brilliant physicist and engineer.
This is a highly technical book written in a popular language by someone who is a physicist and engineer, no doubt about that.
And there he mentions about three dozen accounts of attacks of two fighters on airline bomber formations with devastating consequences for the bombers.
I mean, it was no matching game.
Oh, let me know.
But the swoop, I didn't really shoot at the ball.
Well, they were so advanced, they didn't have to shoot.
What they did was totally annihilate the electrical system.
Exactly, exactly.
At the beginning, they were just following the bomber formation.
The Germans were ironing out the tracking, the following tracking, the techniques of following a bomber formation without getting too close, without staying too far away.
It was a remote-controlled weapon platform, vertical take-off.
They had remote television navigation.
Remote sensing, acoustic, electromagnetic, infrared sensing.
That were 10, 15, 20 years ahead of their time.
They could automatically escape when fired upon.
So, when the attack began, the Scuttle Blitzes were using extremely strong electromagnetic radiation to try the amplifiers, the receivers of the Allied bomber radars to blind them so that they couldn't find their goals.
Later on, they mounted even more powerful krypton chips that were creating such monstrous electromagnetic fields around them.
They were comparable to the electromagnetic pulse of a nuclear bomb.
These fields were powerful enough to dampen And to nullify the electrical currents in the electrical circuitry of the bombers flying nearby, so that their engines would cut out, because there's no more sparks in the start line.
As long as the... and the moment the cooler blades would separate and fly away, the engines would restart.
They will come again, the angels will die.
This is actually how the book Genesis tells.
We hear a crash of an allied bomber after an attack by a crew member.
This is well-documented.
It's not by pilots.
I think the Kugelblitz is one of the most, besides the B-2 bomber and the fuzz bomb, is probably the most well-documented.
It's a secret weapon.
There's no doubt that they had these.
Kugelblitz and the fur bomb.
The two sickly-flying balls that were hanging like Christmas tree ornaments, like glowing orbs in the skies of Germany, before they started attacking the bombers.
They had a man version of the Kugelblitz.
And the funny thing is that it's a very simple weapon.
It was a kerosene-burning, turbojet-powered device.
I'm not sure whether they carried their oxidizer on board or not.
They were either air-breathing, breathing air from the atmosphere, or carrying the oxidizer on board.
But, basically, they used the same materials, the same tools, the same navigation as they were using for their fighter tanks.
Although with incredible speed.
The ionization layer around the Kugelblitz was effectively negating the aerodynamic resistance of the atmosphere, bringing it down to almost zero.
That's why they could attain these incredible speeds even inside the atmosphere.
Was the ionization layer what caused this brilliant light?
Yes, exactly.
They were using some additives to the fuel that would increase the ionization coefficient.
And the ionization wood we use, it would work as a lubricant around the craft, almost reducing to zero the head's hydrodynamic resistance.
We can talk for hours about occultism.
I've collected so much information on it.
I even think that I have a very good photograph of occultism.
The funny thing is that the photograph was taken in 1952 over Mount Rainier in Washington State.
And my suspicion is that this Kugelblitz may have been tested, a test flown out of the secret British research and development facility.
A huge city for 50,000 people that was built in... Western Canada.
Western Canada in British Columbia.
And this is the direction from which the first big Boeing Saucer class came from, the Boeing Saucers.
The formation that Canada almost saw.
And Renato Vesco in his book even mentions that when some of the sources of King and Arnold's show crashed, some porous metal was found at the crash site.
The porous metal, what the Germans call the Luftschau, the air foam, It was exactly the porous metal with these microscopic micron size, or whatever size, miniature size, pore holes that were actually... Beehive.
Thinner than that.
Smaller than that.
I didn't mean to say beehive.
I meant to say honeycomb.
Yeah.
It was actually one of the first composite materials made with, sintered with powder metallurgy.
The Germans were not only advanced aviation designers, but they developed all the metallurgy that was ahead of its time, and metals that were ahead of the time.
More than 100 years.
The so-called metal, the imperium, that was harder than diamond, was developed by them in using these machines later on.
heard stories that a piece of imperium was held towards a diamond grinding wheel,
put on an electric, not an electric, diamond grinding wheel, until the wheel started glowing
red hot because of the frictional temperature coming out of the friction between the imperium
and the wheel. But the imperium never melted and never ever was anything grounded away from it.
So these stories about carbon and diamond, so these stories about crash burning process where
they couldn't cut the metal and they couldn't burn the metal, that doesn't mean that it wasn't made
here. But you got this, you got this, you got this. I don't want to say that all crash cracks on this
planet were made by the Germans. I don't know where either because.
We don't know that.
But we do know that we have developed this technology.
But the whole set of technologies needed for a crash disk scenario or even a little grey abduction scenario were created by the Germans six years ago and have been in the government arsenal of all superpowers for half a century.
So going back to the German disk, After the Kugelbriss and the Feuerbahn, which is the second version of the Kugelbriss, and it was the main version, the Germans developed their first enlarged drone, the megaproject that belongs to me, the Schiebergriff, which was their first operational fighter saucer.
It was a standard turbojet craft.
Well, turbojets also used low-grade aviation kerosene.
At the end of the war, the Germans had a very low-grade gasoline.
I mean, they were running on octane numbers that few Allied machines would ever move.
Well, it turned out to be a boon for everyone because jet fuel, because of that, eventually turned out to be nothing more than a version of Cherokee.
Exactly, and it's non-explosive.
It's a lot less explosive than gasoline.
Otherwise, we would have had a lot more Hindenburg-type crashes, airplanes.
So, the Belong to Me Toshiba disc was, again, a disc about 15 meters in, about 45 feet diameter.
At the beginning, they tried eight turbojet engines of the Yumo, I think, 002 type, the standard jets used in the Mechserschmitt 262 fighter plane.
And the benefit of our listeners was the first fighter plane.
Turbojet.
Right.
Operational turbojet fighter plane.
Actually, the Hangar 179 was the first turbojet plane that ever took off.
It happened in the summer of 1939.
Three, four years before the start.
This is incredible.
The first jet-powered aircraft took off in 1939, but operational jet aircraft weren't in the air actually fighting until almost the very end of the war.
Let me ask you something.
I mean the fighter planes of the second world war, the Mechserschmitt, they've been developed
for ten years before that.
But look at the Japanese.
I bet the Japanese if they'd have had that they wouldn't have spent time for research
because they were sending pilots up in the air to go to their death as the guidance system
for bombs.
The pilot actually was the guidance system for flying bombs if they would just fly right
into our ships.
I agree, but still they had the tactics just before the war too, and they got a lot of information from the Germans, including after the very last months of the war, even after the war ended in Germany, they were still getting, with the huge German transport submarines, These are flying constructions, including disassembled flying saucers that were assembled according to an eyewitness account of a Japanese engineer that worked for a Mitsubishi aircraft factory.
They assembled the same device, pushed the button, it flew away, they got so scared they
dynamited the other device or that's what they said, said their prayers and this was
the end of the Japanese.
That was the end of it.
Anyway, so, uh, I can't see the Japanese getting scared and running away, but that's okay.
You can keep watching.
You're raising a very valid question, why it took so long for the turbojet to be developed.
You know, I mean, the first turbojet plane was probably a ten minute flight, ten days
repair situation or maybe a month of repair.
But I would say the biggest problem was being able to carry enough fuel to stay in the air
for long enough to get there.
Not only the fuel, I mean everything would be leaking, the gas turbine would wear down very fast, the ball bearings would melt and so on.
These things could probably stay in the air for 15 minutes without developing any trouble, while the piston fighters could fight for hours without major failures, because they had already from, well, first World War, 19, whatever, 1914, about, what is it, about 25 years of extensive history.
I've got to interrupt.
You know, this is fascinating.
I've got to tell you, this is absolutely fascinating, and I know that our recruits are just as fascinated as I am.
And I know an awful lot about this, but still... Well, there's a tip of the iceberg.
That's right.
We haven't even cracked it.
And what we're going to do is, would you consent to come back and do maybe one or two more shows and then so that we can... Oh, very nice.
That's great.
I can't tell you how happy it makes me to have someone who has this kind of knowledge on this show.
It's something that everybody needs to understand.
From the common man, for so many years, that a lot of... Well, for instance, in the United States, right now, every year, the United States government spends $90 billion, that's billion with a P, dollars on research.
Where?
On Black Project Research.
Another $30 billion on Black Project Research.
And where is the result of all of this research over the years?
And how much of the drug money proceeds go to Black Project Research, too, and the printing press funding money going to Black Project Research.
That's one of my favorite subjects.
Well we can't continue it on tonight so as always dear listeners good night and God bless you all.
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Wow, folks.
Why didn't I hear that five years ago when it was taped?
I should have.
I can tell you that right now.
That was incredible, interesting stuff.
And there's three more hours of it.
I think we're just going to plug that in for the next three Friday nights.
Now, don't get Vladimir wrong.
He does believe in extraterrestrials, and maybe some of that will come out.
I truly don't remember, ladies and gentlemen.
Whatever comes out will come out, and I guarantee that whatever it is, you will be held spellbound, fascinated, and will be entertained and educated all at the same time.
Remember, ladies and gentlemen, listen to everybody, read everything, believe absolutely nothing unless you can prove it in your own research.
That goes for what you hear from me, your mother, your priests, your teacher, your professor, the President of the United States, The local police chief, I don't care who it is.
You prove it yourself.
There are so many people telling so many lies that it's absolutely pathetic.
I think what you've heard tonight is closer to the truth than anything you've ever heard regarding advanced technology and UFOs and flying saucers and all of those kinds of things.
Until Monday.
Good night, folks.
God bless each and every single one of you.
God bless you.
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