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July 25, 1997 - Bill Cooper
01:02:16
Pete & Susie Shirlaw – Dogs #2
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Once upon a time there was a boy and a girl.
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You're listening to the Hour of the Time. I'm William Cooper. Ladies and gentlemen,
we're going to continue today with Part Two of Pete and Susie Sherloss' lecture and demonstration
of protection dogs, family protection dogs.
As a matter of fact, I think that you all found yesterday's broadcast extremely interesting.
No matter what you thought you knew about dogs, or how long you've been around or with dogs, I'm sure that everyone learns something.
I always do when I talk to Peter and Susie.
So, without further ado, here's part two.
Peter and Susie Sherlock, family protection dogs.
Peter and Susie Sherlock, family protection dogs.
I didn't want to get them to come, but what I found was a lot of them.
They're a funny machine, but there's people that you want to see, but you don't.
Me and you have two dogs that are so aggressive.
I want a dog that's real friendly.
We're all, we're everybody's machine, but it's not just right here.
It's too common.
Yeah, yeah, sure, I understand.
I think it's okay.
Yeah.
Why don't you come over here?
Why don't you come over here?
Come on down here.
I mean, yeah, we're just employees.
How do you got that?
Come on up here, sweetie.
What's your name?
Okay, look.
Why don't you, uh, why don't you, uh, pet my dog here?
Come on, just pet her.
Don't act afraid.
Yeah, just love her up a little bit.
Yeah, she just wants to love you up a little bit.
Just scratch his ear.
You know, you guys have had this ear scratch a whole lot.
You know what I mean?
You know?
Yeah, this is gay.
She's a female.
You can do the same.
Just go on up.
Yeah, just love her up a little bit.
Have you ever seen these dogs before?
I'm okay.
I'm sold.
Go back to your seat.
T-Sides make a sale.
Are you familiar with T-Sides?
Oh, come here.
He made such an impression on me once I followed him.
Yeah, I can see.
I demand that.
I can trust my God and I'm free, but if I don't, I'm not going to.
And you look like a lot of shit.
Yeah, I can see. I demand that. I demand that.
You know, it's like, other than that, you gotta be in God.
You know, right?
And that's it.
And if there's a purpose for those dogs, you know, they have a place, right, in certain situations.
But generally, you know, if you're not, if you're not under a serious threat, okay, it's probably not a really good idea to have a dog that's overly protective.
If you're under a serious threat, then that's a good idea to have a dog that nobody can come close to.
You know what I'm saying?
But for a general, average person living a nine-to-five kind of life, right?
This is what you want.
You know?
Yes?
Would that kind of a dog be better for, like, an unattended dog that lives to protect a factory as opposed to a prisoner or something like that?
Yeah.
You don't have to socialize a dog that's a sentry dog.
That is not a protection dog.
That's a sentry dog.
Which is a whole other tech term.
Which is a whole other category of dog.
You know?
Most people have no business with a sentry dog.
None.
None.
They're dangerous and they'll eat your lives.
We chose our dog, Crusher, For the reason that he is extremely aggressive.
And that when that dog is with one of us, you can't come closer.
You can't go up and pet Crusher like you can these dogs.
And that's exactly what we want because we've had some very serious threats because of what I did.
And so I consider my children and my wife and myself at great risk.
So I don't want somebody, I don't know, getting close enough to me or my children or my wife without our permission that could turn out to be somebody who wants to harm one of us.
So, you can't do that with pressure.
I'm going to reiterate that again.
If you try, he won't bite you, but he'll make you pee in your pants and run as far as you can before you understand that he might not bite you.
If we tell him to bite you, he will.
If I see you coming or if anybody sees you coming, if you come to sit and stay, He won't do anything unless you make an aggressive movement.
But that's why we chose him intentionally.
Because there were other dogs there that were offered that weren't that aggressive and we didn't want those dogs.
But the dogs for all different purposes And you have to determine what the purpose is for your dog.
Somebody was asking about exercise.
Parker needs so much exercise that we have to drive up in the mountain where he's got literally hundreds of acres to run in.
And he does.
As soon as I open that tailgate and take his restraint off, he takes off.
And he'll run a long way, and then he'll come back.
And before we got him a ball, and it's got to be a certain kind of ball, because he destroys
balls like one every minute.
Until we got him a good ball that he can't destroy, we didn't have anything for him to
play with, because he could only play with it for about a minute, and it was gone.
And he would play with rocks, this big.
They would pick him up with his mouth, throw him up in the air, bat him with a paw.
I'm not kidding.
I'm not kidding.
And he's a wonderful dog yet, and how great his need is for exercise and play.
And he's the most playful dog I've ever seen in my life.
This dog loves to play, and he's just so gentle with my children.
I don't know how he would be with other children, or I'm not ever going to put him in a position to find out.
You know, but if we tell him to sit and stay, then children can walk around him.
But if he's just there on the leash, and somebody comes near, and we haven't told him to sit down or stay, it's probably going to let him know, get away.
Don't come near.
So, you can't just walk up and cater all dogs whether they're trained or not.
That's my message, you know.
Don't do it unless you know for sure, because you can get it.
Get it.
One of the things that we're going to do this spring is we're going to show you the difference between a dog like Crusher, who is trained not to let anybody close, He's got this young lady down who's never seen stock before.
There's a real difference.
A real difference.
Crusher is a dog not for everybody.
I didn't even want to sell Crusher.
I didn't know if at all.
I didn't know what the situation was.
I didn't know how responsible it was.
How much experience you got with dogs.
You know what I mean?
It still twisted my arm to get a Crusher.
From Crusher to dog is a real serious bit of business.
You know what I mean?
That kind of dog is just not for everybody.
But it's a good place.
You know, I mean, Bill had been threatened, and people have threatened him in his most vulnerable area, which is his wife and children.
And I guarantee you, he's going to take a hell of a hand against his wife and kids.
Before he started training Crush, did you know he was the type of dog that wouldn't end up being like that?
Absolutely, absolutely.
The first time I looked at Crush, man, we had to put one of those cats loose on him.
We had to get him out of the kennel, man, and he was just foaming at the mouth and everything.
I'm serious with this.
I mean, serious.
The dog can't be terrified.
And so we put one of those kits in his arm and drug him out.
And then I, you know... Well, you know, I mean, somebody's got to get bit, you know, right?
So, I told Susie, I said, grab the dog, right?
She said, what?
I said, just get the dog.
You know, right, you know?
And I saw that the dog wasn't a vicious dog.
He's not a racist guy.
He is a serious guy.
And he's been mistreated and misunderstood most of his life.
He's just a good guy.
I have a philosophy with people and with guys.
I think that love It's the most important, powerful force in the universe.
I think it makes the atomic bomb look like a match.
You know what I mean, right?
I mean, love can change things where nothing else can.
And in order for that, in order for that to happen, you know, you really need a good, solid definition of love, what love is.
And it's not some warm, bulky feeling that you have inside.
What I mean when I'm talking about love is I'm talking about the what about you feeling instead of the what about me feeling.
And if you do that with animals, and if you do that with people, I think you're going to see some amazing changes.
Some amazing changes.
It's the most revolutionary thing that I've ever come across, you know, is that definition of love and it's application.
But that's all I'm going to do.
So what I'd really like to do now is... Is there any more questions?
Okay.
What about if somebody wanted to get revenge on you and feed a dog poison to me or something?
Is it possible to feed a dog?
You can poison proof a dog.
You can get a dog.
I haven't poison proofed my dog.
Because I'm out of town a lot.
When you poison proof a dog, a dog will not accept food
from anybody but you.
And if you happen to be in Oshkosh, Wisconsin
and your dog is at home, he's not for you.
He's not me.
You know what I mean?
And so, I just don't find that real practical.
But if I had a dog that was a sentient dog, for instance, that was guarding the perimeter of the property, I would force-treat him.
You know?
So nobody could come up to, nobody could come up to the fence.
I trained the dog.
I just said it.
Go ahead.
In Waco, they, uh, the F, uh, VFDF, they, the first thing they did was use the dog.
Well, that's... Not Waco, but I mean, uh, the other one.
Ruby Ritz.
Ruby Ritz.
Yeah.
Well, number one, the dog wasn't trained.
Okay?
Number one.
Number two, the dog wasn't wrong.
The reason that it's not the dog is the dog was way out by itself.
okay?
sniffing around for whatever right? and they silence the dog
right? so the dog will keep him on, right?
a trained dog would never be out by himself that far okay, number one
number two, I'll just reiterate a story about dogs that got shot
uh, when I first started training dogs, I was in Salt Lake City
married to a wonderful Mormon lady man, and just starting to really do my old
9 to 5 thing, and trying to get back into society and all that kind of stuff
and, and uh the R.V. industry had
just started to mushroom, and there was this fella that had an R.V.
place, and he was getting he was getting burglarized
and they were stripping these R.V.'s and he was losing like a million dollars a year in
inventory and the insurance companies were gonna
cancel his insurance So what he did is he put up a big fence, and he called up a canine security agency and said, well, we need some dogs in here, and they put two dogs in there.
And the guy says, well, okay, everything's wonderful.
Right?
About two weeks later, man, the guy came up, stripped the fence, docked the van to the fence, and went, poom, poom, right?
And stole the parking lot again, right?
So the guy heard about me, and he came to me, he says, listen, can you do anything for me?
He says, I don't care what it costs.
He says, man, I just need you to cancel my insurance, man.
You know, my life is visible.
I got this problem.
I gotta just solve it.
What can be done, right?
So what I did is I turned to Edward Doberman for it.
You know, I trained two dogs before me.
The first thing I did is I took them to the vet and I had their vocal cords done.
These are barkless, stomable sounds.
And I trained them never to come closer than 40 feet to the fence.
Ever.
And if somebody approached the fence, if they were to go underneath, An RV and hide and not approach.
And it was like a dead zone.
You train a dog to be a dead zone.
Right?
Forty feet in advance, the dogs were not to go near.
So what happened is that Herb Chase, man, climbed over, rattled the fence, right?
Now, again, you know, we all know who shot those dogs, right?
You know?
Last week, somebody killed a dog.
He rattled the fence, man.
No dogs show up.
No dogs are barking.
Over the fence they go, right?
They're in the dead zone, right?
40 feet, right?
No dogs.
Well, man, we must be all right.
Forty-one feet, out of the night, from two one-and-a-half pounds over this, right, looking for lunch.
You know what I mean?
That's all there is to it.
That's all she wrote.
Isn't the guy liable for a warning sign or something?
Oh yeah, you gotta put warning signs on him.
You know what I mean?
You gotta put warning signs on him, you know?
I had an offer to purchase two or one dog for the train to Baja.
So the other one was trained out to Baja, but he must be a Baja teen,
the person in the eye of the beholder.
Yeah, yeah, we can do that.
Dogs work in teams.
Yeah.
Well, let's take a cigarette break for all the smokers, and we'll gather outside, and we'll just begin to show you,
you know, some of the things, some of the things, man, that these
dogs can really do.
All right.
Well, folks, we're outside at this time, outside the barn on the ranch grounds,
and Suzie is holding Hulk on a leash.
Here she is in the parking lot or in the car, where, anyway, you can find yourself, right?
I'm going to show you what Jim is doing.
Hey baby!
How are you doing?
Good.
Look at this.
Are you moving around here?
Yeah, I'm just out walking my dog.
What?
I'm just out taking my dog for a walk.
I'm kind of a stranger here.
Yeah, I can see that.
I was kind of wondering if you knew where the bus station was.
Oh, I'm going to go all the way down to Solo.
Really?
Yeah.
That's a long walk.
I'm going to get pretty thirsty down here.
Otherwise you can spare me a dollar.
No, you can get out of your way.
I don't want to get out of my way, lady.
There's a train of cat dogs.
I'll get them.
Don't look like a train of cat dogs.
Yeah, but don't come any closer.
I just want to bark, lady.
What?
What's going on?
He's not there.
I don't think he's out there.
He's not. He was.
He's not. He was.
Ah! Ah!
Ah! Ah!
Ah!
What did you do to my man?
Same thing again, folks.
So some people just never learn.
I've got my sticks!
Ha ha ha!
Oh, yes, yes!
Oh, yes!
Oh, yes!
Ha ha ha!
I'm going to go down the floor and stand in the middle of my seat.
So, you move your body back.
Suzie placed the dog in a watch position and told the assailant not to move.
If he moves, the dog will instantly attack.
I'm slowly inching away from the dog.
God Bless.
Now he begins to run.
And the dog has him.
Back there.
The dog has him, and if he were not wearing protective clothing, he would be seriously, and I mean seriously injured.
Those are the general commands when the dog is told to do something.
How come he didn't go after you earlier on?
I made damn sure he didn't get it.
Stand by me, Susie.
Now I'm going to show you some control and some automatic reaction with the dog, right?
I come up to Susie and I'm talking to her Right?
And I'm going to make an aggressive move on Susie, and Susie's not going to open her mouth.
All right, watch what happens.
drop that line.
I just want to show you that the dog is not sleep happy.
you Right?
That the dog is not a perpetrator and won't wear one of these.
Get a volunteer, Pete!
We want to make sure that the dog doesn't go off if the bad guy doesn't have a sneak.
Put the dog on me.
What you doing?
Well, we can try it, but even though
the dog seriously wants to bite me, I'm ready to stay.
Stay.
I'm going to go and get some more food.
you He just walked up and pets the dog, and the dog is fine.
Can we have a volunteer?
I guarantee you're not going to get hurt.
Yeah, sure.
Would you like your body sent home?
Sure.
Okay.
Come on. Okay.
I don't want you to hassle her.
What do you have to do?
I don't care.
I just need to remove the egg, huh?
Right.
Okay.
Here you go.
Thank you.
Thank you.
She'll just freak up.
I think she really hates it.
These dogs are not mean dogs.
They're trained dogs.
The interpretation is that you're mean.
Not true.
Yes.
I'm going to have a few of these demonstrations and then I'll be out.
Why do the MPs, the internment shepherds, they like to kick some head and if you can
try to catch their dog, it should come about ten.
Ten.
Ten cutty MP dogs.
Let me tell you guys, you've got about ten keys in your dogs, right?
Oh yeah, right.
No kidding.
You're turning down a Lackland Air Force base, right?
Right?
The training system sucks.
They suck.
They don't know how to train doctors.
They don't know how to operate doctors.
Right?
That's really the truth of it.
Never was a well-trained EMV, though.
They don't have the time, the energy, or the information to do it.
Do you want to hold that?
Yeah.
This is the only thing that's really secure. I'm sending this crystal.
I'm sending this crystal.
It's going to go off inside.
Now, folks, you're going to hear I'm sorry that you can't see, but you're going to hear a demonstration.
Pregnant female German shepherd that actually gave birth to eight pups just a few days after the demonstration took
place.
They were sized in a juvenile court system, and they were dealing with a lot of these 18-year-olds that weighed 250
pounds.
Yeah, yeah, they couldn't carry a gun.
Now, I'm not saying you guys ever went up against one of those 18-year-olds that went down.
I won't.
So... And so the king, he asked me if I could bring himself a doctor.
I said, yes.
And so I used one doctor's name to be sure to get a good result.
Hey, sweetheart.
Really good.
Thank you!
I was kind of worried if you were busy.
Yeah, I am.
I'm very sorry.
How busy are you?
A little busy.
A little busy?
Yeah.
Are you done?
You ever been here?
Yeah.
Are you married?
Yeah.
No, not today, thanks.
No?
Get out of the way.
Get out of the way?
Yeah, it's a private show, though.
Oh, wait a minute, lady.
You know, I was here first.
You took my jacket.
I was here.
What the hell did I wear?
Well, it's in Fort Lauderdale if you come any closer to me.
Yeah, this is all for being jealous, I guess.
Yeah, no, sorry about that.
Huh?
Get back.
Get out of your way.
Get out of the way.
You hear Pete yelling, but he's not hurt.
He's wearing real thick protective and armored sleeve and clothing.
You all right?
Come on!
Get up!
He walked up and pretended to be very nice, petted the dog, walked around Susie and grabbed
her from behind and of course the dog took him down.
That's basically, that's basically what they do.
No, but for a general family that's what they do.
That's basically what they do.
And you can ask the guy, he can talk to you in sign language.
Then...
... laughter...
The point is that dogs love me.
Husbands the same way.
I'm playing a game between Doug and me right now.
That's Doug.
Oh, true.
It's not like Doug or the team.
Doug doesn't play this one.
The point is that Doug loves me.
And I'm his man.
I'm the guy that feeds him.
I'm the guy who takes care of it.
Well, Christ sees.
I'm going to teach you how to see with a bottle of beer.
You got me?
You want a bottle of beer?
I'm going to put it in your trunk.
You get too far away coming up the street, and my dog, he ain't going to like you if you got a dead oar.
I don't like it.
Okay?
Now, if you have a dead oar, for several reasons, you know, you could be concerned with my hand,
or you're concerned with me, and I love you, or you get so good, or your wife is dying of cancer.
You know?
Annie, use the hand signal if you want him down, not up.
Stop.
Thank you.
See?
Now, I would not suggest anybody come near Annie.
This is Annie with our dog Crusher now.
And she's in the process of learning how to handle the dog.
Annie, I don't want that dog to move.
You understand?
I don't want anybody to be in trouble.
Okay?
I don't skate.
I really needed water, but I don't think I'm hungry.
She's a bitch!
I'm going to show you what happens when I make food for a family. I want you to yell,
rock, remember this, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock,
rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock,
rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock,
rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock,
Thank you for watching.
He likes to take the whole arm.
more than you just did.
Oh, I love it, love it.
Yeah.
What the?
Oh.
What the?
I like it, I like it.
Come on.
Come on, get it, get it.
What the?
Oh, what the?
He's getting the lunch.
That's how most curse fish.
I should get some.
She'll come up to you, trying to relieve your fear, and then out of the blue, she'll do something.
Okay?
That's what you got.
You need a dog that's going to react.
Annie had no idea I was going to do that.
And when I did that, She was so frightened and so startled that she couldn't holler.
Crooks countered her.
That's why women are victims.
She don't need to say a word.
The dog does all the work.
She doesn't need to tell the dog.
You know?
I'm ashamed. I'm ashamed. I'm ashamed.
I'm ashamed. I'm ashamed.
Would anybody like to go up and get this done?
Yeah.
Would anybody like to, we have a volunteer here, to go push Annie?
I'm willing to pay a buck a push.
It's a little over 100 pounds of dog that just hit feet.
It doesn't take too long for that kind of thing to wear you out.
The crusher always takes the whole arm.
Unlike the other dogs, Crusher will not let go until he has the arm.
So gentle. Thank you.
Now we're going to show you something.
Pooh, come on.
Mark's the dog. Make this out of sheet.
To demonstrate how gentle the dog is and how good he is with the family that he belongs to,
Pooh is now going to handle the dog.
Back to front and to back.
Pooh has Crusher on the leash.
She told him to heel.
He's walking with his snout at her left knee.
And he goes wherever she goes.
He has plenty of slack in the leash.
He could run quite a ways out if he wanted to.
She stopped and he sat automatically.
She, of course, praised him.
And now she's walking him again.
He's at the heel.
Poo is 7 years old.
I just turned 7 at the time that this demonstration took place.
Poo weighs maybe 50 pounds soaking wet.
The dog is over 100 pounds.
If he wanted to, he could just really do some terrible damage to Poo, but he never would.
She's had him sit, told him to stay, and she's walking quite a ways away and all around him.
He's just sitting there watching her.
Good boy.
Here you go.
Good boy.
Put him in his shade, fool.
Take him over by your dad.
He had a little problem getting him to sit there because he's on some hot gravel.
Every time she would command him to sit and he would put his rear end on the gravel, it would burn and he would try
to stand up again.
If he's in the house and you come to the door And he knows we're all in the house.
And even if he doesn't, if I come to the door, if he doesn't know it's me, you know, like when I go home late at night after sitting around his campfire, I walk up to the door and there's that little square window.
If I don't say anything, he doesn't know it's me.
I rattle the knob and look in the door and all I see is a hundred pounds sailing at that door and he hits it with his full force.
And he is, you've probably heard him if you're sleeping over there.
Have you heard him, Ren?
When I come home, I mean, he barks really loud.
He wakes up everybody in the house.
If we're asleep, and he senses that something's not right, he'll jump up and bark real loud and wakes everybody up.
Instantly.
I noticed that your wife walked up to you and said, you know, you're so good and so fast, you know, because the
dog didn't see you.
No, I was sitting there.
Yeah, I know, but I didn't see the idea that you were coming to us.
No, what it was, was Annie told him to sit and stay.
That's the command.
You tell that dog to sit and stay, and he's not to move.
He's hiding, he's not going to get off that grass.
Unless you make a threatening move.
Yeah, unless you threaten him.
You don't want a dog that's just going to inch through and bite you.
You know, you don't want a dog that's just going to do his job and do it right.
You know, he's got to do it.
Let's ask the other dog.
Your wife was killed, and your dog are there.
How would they be retrained, or what happens to them when they lose their controls?
That's kind of a good question.
Number one, if I'm dead, I don't care.
That's not my problem.
You need a real expert.
You need a real expert.
You need somebody that understands dogs totally to retrain and re-bond with this dog.
I got the dog from the pound.
They were going to put him down.
The dog catcher called me and said, man, I got this beautiful Rottweiler, but it's just a nasty, nasty, nasty dog.
Would you be interested in it?
Yeah.
I was trying to give me a lesson.
I went down and looked at the dog.
The dog was in a small cage, frosting at the mouth and going... You know what I mean?
So I told the guy, I told dog head, he's got an older guy.
I said, bring him out.
He said, what are you crazy?
You're the only guy with snare poles.
Stared your dog.
Dropped your dog out at the cage.
Your dog is jumping up all over the place, man.
Trying to bite him and all that kind of stuff.
He made a judgment call.
Good boy.
I looked at the dog, I saw it was not a mean dog.
What it was, was a mistreated, frightened dog with a rotten mouth.
Okay?
That's what I saw.
Alright?
So, the guy's got the dog, alright?
So I told my wife, I'm talking to the guy, I told my wife who's there, who's an expert dog handler.
I was not an experienced dog handler.
I trained to bite.
Alright?
I knew that I was probably going to have a problem.
Good.
Wait.
Because there's not everybody, there's not every family that has a need for a dog of this type.
So, I was kind of glad about that because I wanted to keep a dog.
My German Shepherd now is getting kind of old and I thought, man, I should give it a sweater, a sweater to replace it.
That would be a hell of a dog.
And then one day I got a telephone call.
It was this guy, Bill Cooper.
He says, I'm looking for your dog.
I said, well good, I got a young German Shepherd.
I'm going to show you.
So I came over and I showed him the young German Shepherd.
He said, oh yeah, it's a nice dog.
He's been dogging all night.
I told him that it was a black female.
He made it the right female, man.
He said, what about that dog?
I said, oh, I feel like he's probably going to like this dog.
I said, yeah, it's a nice dog.
He said, well, bring your dog over.
So I went and brought the dog over.
Bill reached out his hand and pet the dog.
The dog went, RAWR!
I said, well, that settles that.
That's the one I want.
Then he said, yeah, that's what I want.
And the first couple of days Bill had it.
What am I supposed to do?
I can't talk to you?
What am I supposed to do? I just can't talk to my secretary.
That's true.
Ducks. Annie took Doc out for a walk and the little baby started crying and hollering and making a fuss.
The way babies do, you know.
It's like Drucker went over there and pulled a diaper down, man.
Jesus Christ.
You know what I'm sayin'?
These children are now just dog puppies.
If a child makes a fuss, the dog gets real alert.
You know, what's goin' on with the kid?
And, that's the end of that.
Thank you.
Ladies and gentlemen, let me acquaint you with the new offers from our sponsor, Southwest International Trading.
If you want to help yourself and help the Worldwide Freedom Radio Network and the Hour of the Time continue to expand Our programming and be able to, you know, do all the things that we would like to do with this network and be able to bring you the kind of information and news and programming that you really need.
Then you need to call Southwest International Trading and get your hands on some real money.
Real money, ladies and gentlemen, is not what you think it is.
It's not what you have in your pocket.
The coinage that you have in your pocket has been debased.
That's actually against the law.
The law specifically states that a dollar is a specific weight and measurement of purity of silver coin.
And, you know, to have real legitimate money then you have to have that silver coin or a piece of paper that's backed by that silver coin that you can take to a bank and turn it in and get That many silver dollars or gold coin in exchange.
Because money has to have an intrinsic value within itself.
If it does not, it cannot be money.
Now if you really want to try and exercise in absolute ridiculousness, put a $1 bill down on your coffee table or anywhere in front of you alongside of a $100 bill and tell me the difference between the two.
I dare you.
There isn't any.
And if you take either the $1 bill or the $100 bill, or both, to the bank and say, I want to exchange this for whatever it is that's backing it up, they'll laugh at you.
They will laugh at you, ladies and gentlemen.
You see, we don't have any money anymore.
We've been fooled, big time.
And because we don't have any money, we can't really purchase anything.
That's why you don't really own your house or your car.
That's why you have a warranty deed for your house and a certificate of title for your car.
You don't have the real deed for your house and you don't have the real title for your car.
If you had paid for them in real money and you took the proper steps through the legal system to obtain the proper ownership papers, then you would actually own them.
And anything that you actually and truthfully really own cannot be taxed.
That's why you still pay property tax on your home even though you may think you have paid it off and you think you own it free and clear.
You don't.
And the property tax is the rental payment to the true owner.
And that's why you have to register your automobile every year and get plates for it because you don't own it.
You do not own it.
The plates are the control that tell the police or anybody who may be involved in recovering the vehicle for the true owner In case that ever has to happen, and the registration fees are the rental payment that you're paying to the true owner for the use of that car until such time as it disintegrates into dust or the true owner decides to come and claim it.
In any case, it's always the state, ladies and gentlemen, and if you do your research, you'll find out that that's absolutely true.
We've given you the documentation and everything else in past broadcasts of the Hour of the Time.
If you're really interested in doing that research, you can order those tapes and pursue that documentation, or you can do it another way through other sources, because there's lots of people out there who teach this.
Southwest International Trading, in conjunction with the Worldwide Freedom Radio Network, it's not really a partnership, but it's not a standard Sponsorship either.
You see, most sponsors pay a set fee for a set number of minutes of advertising during a program.
What we've done with Southwest International Trading is we've made an agreement that we will advertise their services and the product that they have to offer, which is real money, and in exchange They will give a certain percentage of any money that they make above their costs to the Worldwide Freedom Radio Network.
So every dollar that you spend with Southwest International Trading helps the Worldwide Freedom Radio Network and all of its programming to expand and become the best that it can be.
Remember, folks, we're just people like you trying to do something good.
And we need all the help that we can get.
The Worldwide Freedom Radio Network, the Hour of the Time, have never made any money in their history.
And we don't ever intend for it to do that.
But we do, we do hope someday to at least break even, because this is a terrible burden, I've got to tell you.
So, we try to do things that help you, as well as help us, and help our sponsors.
So, Southwest International Trading can provide you with some real protection for your assets what you've worked so hard to obtain all your life up to this point could be wiped out in one fell swoop literally overnight if the stock market were to just take a tremendous dive and not recover or if the economy were to collapse due to the fact that people suddenly woke up and found out well there isn't any difference between a one dollar bill
Or a $1 Federal Reserve note and a $100 Federal Reserve note.
This is a phony system.
It's fake.
It's a house of cards.
It's counterfeit.
And sooner or later that's bound to happen.
All counterfeit paper systems have always collapsed eventually in the history of the world whenever they have been implemented and used or foisted upon a people.
And this one is no different, ladies and gentlemen.
So call Southwest International Trading at 1-800-295-2432.
That's 1-800-295-2432.
Right now, they're offering an MS-64 Morgan Dollar, PCGS rated and sealed and enclosed in plastic so that rating cannot be changed or tampered with, for $45 apiece.
It wasn't too long ago they were wholesaling for $300 apiece.
Or you can get 40, 90% silver quarters for $40.
That's 40, 90% silver quarters for $40.
Or you can get 190% silver dimes for $40.
That's 190% silver dimes for $40.
And that's pretty close to the actual figure, ladies and gentlemen, that silver is now valued at on the commodity exchange.
So, and actually it's a little Better price than that because you get 190% silver dimes for $40.
It may be a little less than the spot price for silver on the commodity exchange.
Anyway, check the price and figure it out for yourself.
You know, check other other sources and see if you can get a better deal.
And if you can be sure to let us know because we don't want to be, you know, we don't want to be high.
We want to be the lowest and we're doing everything we can to make sure of that.
So 40 90% silver quarters for $40 or 190% silver dimes for $40 or you can get an MS-64 Morgan dollar PCGS rated and sealed in plastic for $45 and they're sealed in plastic folks so that once that rating is made and and it's it's engraved upon that plastic holder that the coin can't be tampered with it can't be changed the rating can't be You know, it can't be substituted for a lower rated coin or anything like that.
That's to protect you.
And when you're dealing with numismatic type coins like this one, then you certainly want to make sure that that you have a coin rated by a nationally accepted rating service and that is sealed so that there can't be any tampering done with it.
And if you don't, then, you know, who knows what the true rating of the coin is and what the true value is.
So the number is 1-800-295-2432.
That's 1-800-295-2432.
We also have some slots still open for our Groom Lake trip, but they're going, folks.
They're going.
We can only accept 21 people for this event.
We also have some slots still open for our Groom Lake trip, but they're going, folks.
They're going.
We can only accept 21 people for this event.
It's $250 each for members, $300 each for non-members, $400 for a two-member family
which has a family membership, or $500 for a family with three or more members which
has a family membership.
If you don't know what that is, you don't have it, so don't be concerned about it.
If you do have it, then of course you get this special rate.
Transportation is not provided to and from Rachel, Nevada.
You have to fly into Las Vegas and then rent a car.
And drive approximately 135 miles northwest of Las Vegas to the city of Rachel, Nevada.
Once you have secured your reservation with payment, we will send you directions and a map and all that kind of stuff.
Everything that you need to get there.
You need to get there Friday night of Labor Day weekend.
Because everything is going to start Saturday morning.
We'll go through Saturday night and then you'll be sleeping Sunday morning and we'll start again Sunday afternoon, go through Sunday night, have breakfast on Monday morning, and then everybody will leave back to their respective homes and jobs and all of that kind of stuff.
If you really want to make sure that you have a spot on this trip, get your money in now if you want to attend.
You can call Connie at 520-333-4578.
Monday through Friday 9 a.m.
to 1 p.m.
for information and if you want to really ensure that you're going to be on this trip send your check or money order now.
Don't worry if we're full, we'll send it right back to you.
We're not going to cash it if we've already got a full trip.
Make your money order or check payable to Harvest Trust and send it to the Harvest Trust P.O.
Box 2470 Pinetop, Arizona 85935 That's Harvest Trust P.O.
Box 2470 Pinetop, Arizona 85935 Let me give you our website folks for those of you who have a computer and are looking for an interesting place to go on the World Wide Web.
It is http://www.telepath.com believer
For those of you who haven't been paying attention, the new address for the Harvest Trust is PO Box 2470, Pine Top,
Arizona, 8800-427-3155.
For those of you who haven't been paying attention, the new address for the Harvest Trust is PO
Box 2470, Pine Top, Arizona, 8800-427-3155.
That's Harvest Trust P.O.
Box 2470 Pinetop, AZ 85935.
All other addresses no longer apply.
The phone number for the office is 520-333-4578.
That's 520-333-4578.
Office hours are between 9 a.m.
and 1 p.m.
The phone number for the office is 520-333-4578.
Office hours are between 9 a.m. and 1 p.m. Monday through Friday.
The number to order Oklahoma City Day One by Michelle Marie Moore, 640 pages of the
most unbelievable, documented and sourced proof of what really happened on April 19,
1995.
Call 1-800-888-9999.
You can order with any credit card.
make you cry. Call 1-800-888-9999. You can order with any credit card. The price is $34.95 postpaid. That's 1-800-888-9999.
Once again, 1-800-888-9999.
That's to order Oklahoma City Day One by Michelle Marie Moore.
The reason it's so high is the shipping, folks.
This book weighs two pounds and it's shipped by UPS, so you have to give us a physical address.
unless you want it shipped by the U.S. Post Office.
And I gotta tell ya, that's a crapshoot if we do that.
So if you wanna order it, you can use any credit card, 1-800-888-9999.
Let me see, the other thing is we can lower your long distance telephone rates, ladies and gentlemen,
from whatever they are now.
We have one plan that's nine cents a minute from 7 p.m.
until 7 a.m.
if you don't mind making your calls during that time.
It's six second billing and you know, what better could you want?
And we also have, if you need to make calls like all the time and you can't select a time that you need to make a call, we have a 10 cents a minute plan, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 52 weeks a year, like always.
Every time you pay your phone bill, you're helping the World Wide Freedom Radio Network.
So, what better way to do things?
We help you, you help us.
Everybody's happy.
I think on Monday, We're going to start some really fantastic programming again on the hour of the time and get away from the conference for a while.
We'll be letting you know very soon the price of the audio and videotapes of the conference.
Not only of the conference, but of the event that was held in Porterville, California, which was pretty good.
It's one of my best talks, I think, that I've ever done.
And you're all going to want a set of those audiotapes.
So we'll be letting you know all about that next week and how you can obtain the audio or videotapes from Porterville, California, or from the 97 conference that we just held here in Arizona.
And it's an awful lot of information.
What you've heard on the hour of the time from the conference is just a very, very minuscule amount of what really happened there.
So until Monday, folks, I hope you have a very, very wonderful weekend and we'll see you next week.
Good night.
God bless each and every single one of you.
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Ladies and gentlemen, the home satellite radio show with Dan Morgan will not be broadcast on the Worldwide Freedom Radio Network again.
We had problems getting them to pay their bill every month, and every month when they did finally pay their bill, it was always short of the proper amount.
When Last night it became obvious that they had not paid their bill that they owed for the month of July, and it was almost the first of August when the new bill for August would have to be paid, and I could see us going around and around again trying to pull the teeth to get the bills paid from the home satellite radio show.
I decided to pull the plug.
So that broadcast will not now be heard on the World Wide Freedom Radio Network.
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