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Feb. 3, 1997 - Bill Cooper
02:05:40
Buddy Holly Special #3
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I'm going to make a act so funny, make a bad mama, make her feel real loose, like a lone
egg goose, like a girl.
Oh, baby, that's the one I like!
What's that, honey?
Think you a bit late?
Don't be late!
I think you're up to date, and don't be late, but baby, I ain't got no money, honey. Oh, alright honey.
You know what I like.
Sat in Philly, ladies had a pretty face.
On that sail, a-hangin' down, a-wigglin', a-walkin', a-jigglin', so long.
Hey, the world goes round.
Ain't nobody in the world like a big-eyed girl to make me act so fun, make me feel smart, make me feel real loose, like a long-necked shooter, like a girl.
J.P.
Richardson, also known as the Big Bopper.
For those of you who don't know why he was called the Big Bopper, he called himself the Big Bopper.
That was the age of the bop, folks.
He started out when people were doing the bop.
We played a lot of that music earlier on this broadcast, and by golly, we're going to keep on doing it.
It's good for the soul.
Well, by the time most of the tracks that you're hearing tonight were recorded, folks, the Crickets were touring almost continuously, and time for recording trips to Clovis was short.
A couple of quick sessions, including one on the road in Oklahoma City, to complete the Buddy Holly and Chirping Crickets albums were followed by more lengthy affairs between tours intended to produce material for future single releases.
One such session in February 1958, just before the group left for a British tour, resulted in completed masters of Think It Over, Fool's Paradise, which were released as a Crickets single, and two other tracks, which were intended to be a Buddy Holly single.
Well, all right, and take your time.
It was later decided to couple Rave On with the latter title.
There was some time before Well, All Right was released, and then only as the B-side to Heartbeat.
Holly's own preference for quieter, more melodic songs seems to have been overridden by his record company's needs
for commercial up-tempo records that would have instant appeal.
He's got to the riff that looks so fine You've got one part I wish was mine.
Lovely love.
You've got love, anyone loves.
You've got two arms that you could use.
You make me lose my blues.
Love, sweet love.
You've got love, my love.
You've got love, real love.
You've got love, sweet love.
You've got love that is true.
I want only you.
You've got two eyes so you can see.
Your love was meant for me.
Love, free love, God loves us all Love, free love, God loves us all
He's got love, free love You've got love, sweet love.
You've got me in a spin.
I like the spin I'm in.
Got two eyes so you can see.
Your love was meant for me.
Love, sweet love.
This was Buddy Hardy's influence on the recording sessions where he really got into a slow mood.
It lasted a little while.
Where I belong Where hearts have been broken We'll help you find a song And the rest of my day is here Without any care Everyone understands me
In the valley of tears Valley of tears was kind of a slide back in the country
music as this was made famous by a well-known country artist.
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you So sweet and low
But my mind is made up And I must go
Oh, Lord.
the world.
And the rest of my day is here.
Without a penny shared.
Everyone understands me.
In the valley of tears And now you're going to hear another cut of one of the
earliest, Rock Me Baby.
Oh, well, I've been here and all around, and now I'm going to lie in bed, so sweet, and love me, baby.
You know how you end up for me, my baby.
Well, I love it, so here and now, rock-a-bye, rock, baby.
Even though Buddy Holly had been perfecting his own successful technique and his music
Even though Buddy Holly had been perfecting his own successful technique and his music
has become quite sophisticated in its own right, and the word about Buddy Holly was
has become quite sophisticated in its own right, and the word about Buddy Holly was
spreading, he still on occasion slid back into imitations of Elvis Presley, as you can
spreading, he still on occasion slid back into imitations of Elvis Presley, as you can
clearly hear on this cut of Rock Me My Baby.
clearly hear on this cut of Rock Me My Baby.
The End.
I almost knocked the whole turntable right out of the studio here.
Well folks, that loud noise you heard was me turning around.
I almost knocked the whole turntable right out of the studio here, quite by accident,
I can assure you. I hope you're all enjoying this special memorial broadcast in commemoration
of the work of Richie Valens.
J.P. Dutton.
Richardson, also known as the Big Bopper, and, of course, our star this evening, the great Buddy Holly.
I'm all alone here now.
Everybody else has split for other tasks.
Our jobs, our relaxations, and so I am doing everything by myself and I'm loving every minute of it.
It's a pleasure, ladies and gentlemen, to be able to take you out of the seriousness of the moment, and believe me, the moment is serious and will continue to be until constitutional Republican government is restored in America.
But we must take these types of breaks every once in a while in order to get in touch with who we are and our history and to relax so that we can maintain our sanity in these troubled times.
This is, after all, part of what America is all about.
You see, rock and roll is an American product.
It started here.
It is at its greatest here.
The greatest rock and roll stars in the history of the world.
For all America.
And of course, rock and roll sprang out of another original American genre of music.
And that is the black society's contribution Rhythm and Blues.
So, what we're doing tonight is recounting a part of American history.
And it's just as important as if we were talking about the conquering of the Louisiana Purchase, or anything else in American history.
I don't know about you, but when I was a young man, rock and roll music occupied a great percentage of my time.
And some of my happiest moments are connected with an awful lot of the music that you're hearing tonight and on other episodes of The Hour of the Time.
For as you've come to realize by now, I have an eclectic taste in music.
My repertoire, so to speak, covers all genres, types, recording artists.
Because there is not only good music in every type of music that you can find, but there is great music.
And then, as some of you are already thinking, there's an awful lot of trash, too.
But we stay away from that.
In June 1958, a situation developed at Coral that resulted in Holly recording titles specifically at Coral's request.
During a promotional visit to New York, Buddy and Norman Petty found the company in a spin over a record they had released under the name of The Ding Dongs, which concealed the identity of the singer, Bobby Darin.
Darren was under contract to Atlantic Records at the time, but had become dissatisfied with them, and, anticipating the termination of his contract, made a record for Brunswick.
The single, entitled Early in the Morning, had begun to make some noise, and Norman Weisdra, Coral, Brunswick's sales manager, told Petty that Atlantic had discovered that the record was by Darren, and had filed a legal action against them to take over the master.
Weinstore was so concerned to have lost the record that he and Bob Field suggested that Holly should go into the studio immediately and recut it using the very same arrangement.
But he listens to Darren's original and readily agreed.
Within 48 hours, he had recorded both sides and Coral Rush released the record within a week.
The session was Holly's first at the Pythian Temple, a studio owned by Deca, which was actually a small auditorium within a larger building built by the Knights of Pythias.
A Masonic-style organization.
Many of Bill Haley's hits have been recorded there, and instead of separating the instruments and voices with panels, everything was recorded live, with the musicians and vocalists being separated for balancing purposes by sheer distance, as Norman Petty recalls.
The temple wasn't anything to look at, but it had a marvelous acoustic sound.
The orchestra sat on the stage.
Buddy was down in front, and Dick Jacobs had these four colored girls who were in the choir of the Abyssinian Baptist Church in New York up on the balcony doing the backing vocals.
They were gospel singers and just great.
Although a departure from his style to date, Buddy regarded the record as one of his best.
As Jerry Allison remembers, he really thought that was an excellent record.
He liked the idea of having the black chorus singing on it, and when I heard the record I thought, this is the best record so far.
The single may have been a bigger hit than it was in America had it not had to compete with Bobby Darin's original, which Atlantic also rushed released.
A few weeks later, the Crickets were back in Clovis to record another single, It's So Easy, and Lonesome Tears.
This time, they were augmented by another guitarist, Tommy Alsa, who played lead on the session.
Tommy had traveled to Clovis from his hometown of Tulsa to play on a Don Bowman single and met the Crickets there.
Joby Mauldin sums up their reaction.
It was just one of those things where you meet somebody and really hit it off.
Buddy loved the way Tommy played, and he was a very likable person.
It seemed we all hit it off good with Tommy.
And, uh... Here we go, with Baby I Don't Care.
You don't like crazy music.
You don't like rockin' bands.
I just want to go to a movie show, and sit there holding hands is just a quack.
Baby, I don't care.
I don't know why my heart flips.
I only know it does.
I wonder why I love you, baby.
I guess it's just because it's just a quack.
Baby, I don't care.
You don't know any dance steps, but I do, so do you.
i don't know of course both you recognize another one of those buddy
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july nineteen fifty seven Bye.
It's too late.
My friend is gone.
Wish I had told her she was my only one.
But it's too late.
She's gone.
It's the weak man that cries.
So I guess I'd better turn around.
Guess I will miss her more than anyone, but it's too late.
Yes, I will miss her more than anyone, but it's too late.
She's gone, she's gone, she's gone, she's gone, let me go, let me go, she's gone, she's gone,
I'll let you go.
She's gone, she's gone, let me go.
Once he left me here, it's where it goes.
I need your lovin' Please don't make me wait And tell me it's not too late
you the next one.
I need you love, please don't make me weak and tell me it's not too late, not too late.
1957 Tinker Air Force Base Officers Club in Oklahoma.
Take a look around.
See if you can spot me there folks.
I'm in the audience with that pretty little blonde girl.
And now I know.
What a fool I've been.
She was to me.
We had a date.
A date at seven.
I dreamed of heaven.
We've had a day of day.
A day is heaven, I dreamed of heaven.
Now she waits at day.
She just drove by.
With another guy.
No wonder I had a little surprise.
Wonder what happened to the first try. Fly, I'm flying.
I miss the old days. How we made our day. I miss the old days.
I'll be playing my favorite tune. I'll be in love for a moment there. Oh, oh, oh.
To think she'd never care. Just drag me along.
Now I'm running to the kitchen for love. Is this empty cup?
Just like this cup.
My love is gone. I hit the bottom. Now I'm all alone. All alone.
Ah, now we go back to Clovis, New Mexico for Look at Me.
Now I'm running to the kitchen for love.
Hey, hey, look at me and tell me What's gonna happen to you When you've broken too many people's hearts And can't find anyone new Say, say, look at me and tell me About that twinkle in your eye Is the twinkle in your eye meant for me Or meant for some other guy?
Look at me from now on, and know the love we share.
Look at me from now on, let me know you care.
Hey, hey, look at me and tell me what's gonna happen to you when you've spoken sweet words of love to me and I want to
marry you.
...
Look at me from now on, and know the love we share.
Look at me from now on, let me know you care.
Hey, hey, hey, look at me and tell me what's gonna happen to you
when you've spoken sweet words of love to me and I want to marry you.
...
Did you know that at one time in the state of Texas, almost every young boy was called Buddy?
Well, it's true, folks.
One of them, one of them cultural things, I guess.
And I'm not making fun of them, most of my family's from Texas and Oklahoma.
least that's after the covered wagon ride across the frontier wilderness.
Music playing.
radio like you always wished it could be.
101.1 Eager, Arizona.
This is a song about the unforgettable.
I'm William Cooper.
I'm a citizen of the Church of Amsterdam.
I'm a citizen of the Union.
I was sad to find it missing.
Blinded by a choice I was lost.
I was lost in a fool's paradise.
Fool's paradise.
Good and lost.
Good and lost in a fool's paradise.
You told me that you loved me.
I gave my heart to you.
And I wondered if there could be any truth in love so new.
I was lost.
I was lost in a fool's paradise.
Fool's paradise.
Good and lost.
Good and lost in a fool's paradise.
Oh, well, what's my kingdom?
And you lost again my crown.
And I saw you stand by the needle man.
And my love came to me full of doubt.
She said I'm a foolishness.
And I never let me know.
That one day I'm being foolish.
Because I love you so I'll still get lost.
I'm gonna get lost in a sea of love.
We're a fool's paradise, I'm in love with you.
We're a fool's paradise.
We're a fool's paradise.
They never let me know.
At least I'm being true to fruition.
Because I love you, so I'll still get lost.
I'll still get lost in a fool's paradise.
Paralyzed and lost in you.
He's lost in beautiful paradise He's lost in you
He's lost in beautiful paradise Don't touch that dial back to back Buddy Holly until early
in the morning Yeah, you gonna miss me early in the morning
I wanna be safe, oh yeah, where you gonna want me Early in the morning when I'm awake
And I don't know if you'll be sorry for the sunshine You'll be sorry for the sunlight
Where you gonna be early in the morning Oh I'll be there, oh yeah
I'm gonna be low, low in tone, don't get an applause Ain't got no bricks, can't count on
When you broke my heart.
When you said goodbye.
I had the milk you spilled.
I bet you're gonna cry.
You're in the morning.
And you're gonna know.
That I was right.
Oh yeah.
You're in the morning.
And there's nobody.
For you to shine.
Oh, girl, how you gonna love me?
Hold me fast, you told me.
The best thing you ever had.
Yes, you told me.
You told me.
You told me.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, girl, how you gonna love me?
When this next one was recorded on 19 June 1958, Buddy Holly had a little less than seven
Hold me fast, you told me.
The best thing you ever had.
Yes, you told me.
You told me.
I wanna be good to you.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
When this next one was recorded on 19 June, 1958, Buddy Holly had a little less than seven and a half months to
and a half months to live.
live.
Oh, girl, how you gonna love me?
How you gonna love me?
We don't have to run and hide.
Every time I want to hold your hand, I'm afraid someone won't understand.
Now that we are married, baby, we don't have to worry.
Now we're one.
Well, I want to jump to the moon and yell out loud.
I feel like I'm walking on an empty ground with what I want up to.
And can't you see, hon?
Ever since we had the wedding bell time.
And now we're gone and I love you so.
A moment I never let go.
Makes a feeling run up my spine.
You know I'm yours and you are mine.
Now that she's a black dragon, we don't have to worry how we'll do.
Yeah, I'm going to get to the moon, see her out now.
I feel like I'm walking on a peachy shroud.
We'll put on our fears and kiss and hug.
Everything we've turned to red will not hurt.
Now you're gone and you're my bride.
But we don't have to lie.
Every time I hold her hand, I feel like I'm going to understand.
Now that she's a married lady, we don't have to worry how we'll do.
Now how we'll do.
Now how we'll do.
My friend Alan Handelman knew I was doing this.
He'd just shake his head and smile.
He has one of the biggest rock and roll shows on radio on the East Coast.
And I'd just say, Alan, eat your heart out.
I've seen it on some tears.
The truth is he's probably doing something similar.
I know I've been searching by God.
Lost for words when you left.
The candle set up strong.
Lonesome tears fell all night long.
Yes, you know I know I've been searching by God.
You left me here all alone.
You've been gone for so long.
Something I can give you more.
Now need I tell you more?
Lonesome tears, sad and blue.
I shed lonesome tears for you.
So I know I'm right when you say you found out my fault You left me here all alone
Every time you come back home.
Lovin' like you did before.
Now need I tell you more?
Lonesome tears, sad and blue.
I said lonesome tears for you this year.
No I, no I cried when you said goodbye.
Only on the Hour of the Time, we've got our film on the heartbeat of American musical history.
Heartbeat, why do you miss when my baby kisses me?
Heartbeat, why does a love kiss save my memories?
I know that true love will be hard to keep.
Why do you miss when my baby kisses me?
Heartbeat, why do you skip when my baby lifts me high?
Heartbeat, why do you flit and give me a skippy shrine?
Heartbeat, why do you flinch and give me a gippy shrine?
Tittle me, clap and bring to me love's glory And bring to me love's glory
Heartbeat, why do you miss when my baby kisses me?
Heartbeat, why do you miss when my baby kisses me?
Coming up now is one of Buddy's truly big ones, and for him, it's so easy.
It's so easy to fall in love It's so easy to fall in love
🎵 People tell me love's for fools
So here I go breaking all of the rules It's so easy, it's so easy, it's so easy
Dogs on me, dogs on me, dogs on me It's so easy, it's so easy, it's so easy
When you're just standing by It's so easy to fall in love
It's so easy to fall in love 🎵
It's so easy to fall in love It's so easy to fall in love
I'll shove a penny to your heart.
Look into your heart and see what your love will bring.
Thank you for watching.
now. We. Will.
The.
Well we're going to be doing a lot more of this stuff.
I just recently ordered every, every single classic doo-wop tune that was ever written and performed during the classic rock and roll era.
And we're going to be bringing you quite a few fantastic specials on the worldwide Freedom Radio Network.
That's what it's all about, isn't it?
That's why we did this, to bring you the best broadcasting That you can find anywhere, and to take back the airwaves, we've got to be better than anybody else.
And by golly, we're going to be.
Meanwhile, back in the recording studio, Allsup, to his surprise, became a member of the Crickets.
Not just for recording, folks, but on their next tour, which became his introduction to rock and roll.
I was up in Clovis and Buddy says, we're fixing to go on a tour.
It's going to be a show dance tour up in the Midwest.
Why don't you go along with us?
So that was the first tour I made.
That's when Earl Sinks went along to sing with my band.
We had a bunch of musicians out of Oklahoma City.
We played dances and had a stage show, which Holly liked.
It was really an experience for me because I didn't even know what rock and roll was.
I came from the Southern Club in Lawton, Oklahoma, and rode with Buddy on a tour, right out of a western band into a rock and roll band.
But I was playing the same stuff I'd always played.
I didn't change nothing at all.
Also played on two demos Holly recorded of songs he had written with Bob Montgomery and wanted the Every Brothers to record, Wishing and Love's Made a Fool of You.
Although made to demonstrate the songs, rather than the performance, both titles were good enough to be released as singles in the mid-sixties in their original form, and their success owes an awful lot to Alsop's country-style guitar picking.
Allison and Malden did not play on these recordings.
Instead, Holley used Norman Petty's studio musicians, George Atwood on bass and Bo Clark on drums.
Although the Everly brothers were friends, and had expressed interest in Holly's songs, they found themselves unable to record the tunes he offered them, since most of their material was published by Aka Rose Music, whereas Holly's songs were published by Norman Petty's, nor Va Jack Music.
Since their manager and publisher, Wesley Rose, had the final say on what they recorded, it is likely that he discouraged them from recording songs he and his company would be unable to participate in.
Of course, folks, it's money!
That's My Desire was recorded at Bell Sound Studios earlier in 1958 on the same session that produced Rave On.
However, it seems that although Buddy had been quite keen to record the song, no one else shared his enthusiasm, and after a couple of takes, it was decided not to pursue it further.
The Master was not released until 1966, after it had been overdubbed by the Fireballs, but even their efforts failed to bring it to life, and the track remains one of Holly's few uninspired recordings.
For his last session in Clovis in September 1958, Buddy Holly chose to break with tradition still further, perhaps encouraged by the success of his flirtation with the Atlantic-style sound of Early in the Morning He flew Atlantic's session man King Curtis into Clovis from New York to play tenor saxophone on Reminiscing and Come Back Baby.
Curtis had played on many Atlantic recordings that were Holly's personal favorites, and they had become friends when Curtis had toured with the Allen Freed Orchestra, providing backup to other singers on tours Holly had appeared on with the Crickets.
Maria Elena Recently married to Buddy Holler, and making her first visit to Clovis, probably experienced the same disorientation that Curtis felt recording there, and she remembers how it took some time to get the recording together.
She said, when they did Reminiscing, they tried it so many different ways, first with Buddy playing reed guitar, then rhythm, but with King Curtis backing him up.
It was a really different sound.
I think it would have been a big hit at the time because it was so different, but there were legalities involved, and it wasn't released until 1962.
These legal problems, folks, centered around Buddy's split with Norman Petty in the autumn of 1958, at the same time as Holly and the Crickets decided to part company so that Buddy and Maria could live in New York while Jerry and Joe remained in Lubbock.
But he decided that he wanted to make a clean break and start afresh.
He'd already planned to record in New York with the Dick Jacobs Orchestra.
This followed a suggestion by both Coral and Norman Petty that Holly should break away from his rock and roll image and get into the pop market.
It's likely that Holly was more concerned with the possibility of coming up with something fresh and original than with deserting rock and roll altogether.
But he was certainly prepared to experiment with strange Dick Jacobs, who produced and arranged Buddy's last session, takes up the story.
He said, We did four titles on the one session.
I had written all the arrangements.
We had a nine o'clock session booked for the evening, and about 6.30, Buddy came dashing into my office and said, Dick, I hate to do this to you, but Paul Rankin just played me a fantastic song, and we have to do it on the session tonight.
The song was, It Doesn't Matter Anymore.
And Buddy and I sat in my office right there and then, and I wrote out an arrangement and some simple string parts, which I think just happened to result in a great record, mostly because I had no time to write anything but a unison pizzicato thing.
The session also marked Holly's first stereo recordings, although they were not released in that form at the time.
The tapes were made on a three-track machine, enabling them to be subsequently mixed into stereo.
Norman Petty remembers attending a session at the Pythian Temple and finding out afterwards that the engineers had been experimenting with the new equipment.
I was unaware that they were recording in stereo.
Strangely enough, the desk they were using had a four-track board, but everything went into mono and I didn't find out until later that they were also feeding the mics into another room just off the stage where they were mixing everything onto a three-track machine.
Some ten years later, those tapes were used for the first time to produce stereo masters of It Doesn't Matter Anymore and True Love Waves, one of the big ones, and during the production of this set, the three-track tape of Moon Dreams was discovered in the MCA vaults, resulting in the release of a stereo version of this title for the first time.
Raining in my heart has apparently been lost since an exhaustive search of the tape archives has failed to locate a three-track tape of this title.
Maria Elena attended the session at the Pythian Temple and found herself pleasantly surprised by what Buddy was doing.
People used to say rock and roll was just like people shouting and all that, but when I was at the session, I realized that what Buddy was doing was really nice music, and there were really talented people involved with it.
My favorite song from this session was True Love Waves.
That was our song.
Dick Jacobs always said he loved to work with Buddy, because it didn't take him long to really get into it, and this session was like that.
Buddy would listen to what Dick had to say about the arrangements and everything, and they would run through the song.
Then Buddy would say, OK, I have it.
And right away, they'd do it.
But with using the strings, it wasn't like he was changing his whole direction.
Buddy was open to everything that was interesting or different.
If he liked it, or thought it would be something exciting, he would do it.
He knew you had to think of the commercial aspect.
But he was always interested in new things.
Like if you had suggested he go and sing in Las Vegas, he'd have tried it.
But whatever happened, I don't think he would have ever deserted rock and roll.
And all I can say is, well, all right.
Well, all right, so I think we should.
Well alright, let people know.
How about the dreams and wishes you've reached?
And the life and life alone?
Well, all right.
Oh, all right.
Oh, we'll live and love with all our might.
Well, all right.
Well, all right.
Our lifetime love, we all love We're all right, so I'm going steady
It's all right when people say that those foolish kids can't be ready for the love that comes their way.
Well, all right.
Well, all right.
Oh, well, it's time to love.
It's all right.
Well, all right.
Well, all right.
Our life's time to love.
We'll be alright.
We'll be alright.
I see you.
And if you don't cut that out, love's made a fool of you.
Just listen to Buddy.
You'll tell it like it is.
You'll tell it like it is.
You're doing the thing you want to do.
Love can make you feel so good.
Love can make you feel good When you go hard to make it good
When it's so hard to make it good.
Heart is gonna make you cry And I can't wait, baby
Are you gonna make it right back?
When your baby don't see you right.
Don't you see, you're right When you're feeling happy
When you're feeling bad and blue.
You know love can make a fool of you You know love can make you lose a minute
You know love can make a fool of you.
You know love can make a fool of a man.
You don't care if he's gonna try again.
You know love can make a fool of a man.
You don't care if he's gonna try again.
But you don't care, you're gonna try again I'm so sorry it's a passing flash
You don't care if he's gonna try again.
You think you love the man from that flash But you're flying by, you're gonna find
Baby love, I had to save your mind When you're feeling bad and blue
You know love can make a fool of you You know love can make a fool of you
Love can make you feel good When you go hard to make it good
Heartache can make you cry, when you really don't see right.
We can be the new brand new. You know love is real.
This is the Voice of Freedom.
This is my daddy's station.
I'm Poop.
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Whoops.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Now, here we go.
Don't even touch the top.
oh Darling, darling.
Darling, darling.
Take me with you to the land of the free, To the land of my birth and the dawn of my death.
Take me with you to the land of the free, Now that you're gone, I've been all alone.
All my life that I've been on my own.
Oh my dear, who's on your way?
Take me with you, wherever I may go.
I don't know what I do, but I'm sure I'll find my way.
I had a dream, a dream of a dream.
you I've never been afraid of my own heartache.
Oh, God, oh, my God, oh, my God.
Ricky Bowers, who died along with J.P. Riggs.
Richardson and Buddy Holly on the plane crash flying from Clear Lake, Iowa to another I don't remember which, but it doesn't make any difference.
This broadcast is going to go on until we have played every single recording that Buddy Holly ever made in his very short life.
And as you've already learned, his work was prolific, much more than you ever dreamed.
And you've heard some recordings on this broadcast this evening.
that are hot, that you never heard before in your life.
So, let's go back and listen to the real thing.
The great Buddy Holler.
I can't hold you tight, wishing that the time would come tonight. I've been hoping all along things would just turn
out right. If I could find a wishing star, then I would spend the night wishing
And then I rise to see you every day wishing.
That I could steal your heart away.
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♪ I've been hoping all along
Things would turn out right If I could find a wishing star
Then I would spend the night Wishing
That I could see you every day Wishing
That I could feel your heart away ♪
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I'm just sitting here in my living, wondering who you've been kissing, baby.
Oh baby, oh baby. I've been wandering all around the busty, old, new, dry town.
Don't love me anymore.
I'll get over you soon, baby.
Although my heart is still sore.
Well, you know my heart still soars.
When I think of all the lies you told.
When I think of all the lies you told, you just made my heart chew so good.
And the mean things you said, when I think of all the fun we had, kinda makes me feel so sad.
I'm longing for your love, and the longer day I live, it's only you that I'll be thinking of.
You know I'm thinking of you.
Well, I'm thinking of you.
So the most fantastic music that was ever performed.
You're hearing tonight, right here on the Hour of the Times.
Worldwide, Freedom Radio Network.
I'm William Cooper.
Baby, won't you come back?
Come back, baby, to me.
Now I know why all sad hearts cry.
Baby, did it come to me?
Oh, well, I cried all night.
Ever since you left, nothing has gone right.
Nothing has gone right.
Who will own me on these streets?
I say come back and finish this.
Baby, won't you come back?
Come back, baby.
Now you know how I feel.
Oh, baby, baby, come to me.
When you left me all alone To sing the blues I waited but for To get used to you
Now you know I love you so Baby, baby come to me
Oh come back baby to me .
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We're going to make this the best radio network in America.
We're going to make this the best regular network in America.
That's my desire.
To spend one night with you.
In our old Broadview.
Time never misreads.
That's my desire.
I'm going to make this the best regular network in America.
That's my desire.
I'm going to make this the best regular network in America.
That's my desire.
I'm going to make this the best regular network in America.
That's my desire.
I'm going to make this the best regular network in America.
That's my desire.
I'm going to make this the best regular network in America.
That's my desire.
I'm going to make this the best regular network in America.
That's my desire.
I'm going to make this the best regular network in America.
That's my desire.
I'm going to make this the best regular network in America.
That's my desire.
I'm going to make this the best regular network in America.
That's my desire.
I'm going to make this the best regular network in America.
That's my desire.
I'm going to make this the best regular network in America.
That's my desire.
I'm going to make this the best regular network in America.
That's my desire.
I'm going to make this the best regular network in America.
That's my desire.
I'm going to make this the best regular network in America.
That's my desire.
I'm going to make this the best regular network in America.
That's my desire.
I'm going to make this the best regular network in America.
That's my desire.
I'm going to make this the best regular network in America.
That's my desire.
We'll sit for a while.
I'll wait in line.
To hear you whisper love.
Cause we have to go.
Every day I love you so As the boys pass by with each other
We'll drift a little like the water I'll gaze into your eyes, desire to fill the circle you're
in And see your heart to heal
To hear you whisper love to me until you're gone.
I love you so, that's my desire Buddy married a girl named Maria Elena
and this next one, True Love Ways, was their song You know why, why you wanna hit that
You know why, why you wanna hit that You know why, and why
No true love way Sometimes we'll sigh.
Sometimes we'll cry.
And you know why.
Just you and I go to a party.
So I'll take the pain, I'll do what I want to do You'll bring us joy to share with those we care
Sometimes we decide.
Sometimes you cry.
And you know why just you and I are two in one.
And you know why just you and I are two in one.
And throughout the day our joy will arise.
They'll bring us joy to share with those who nearly care.
Moonbeams, moonbeams, rings of stintlet sky.
And through the night our love will rise.
Moonbeams, moonbeams, rings of stintlet sky.
And through the night our love will rise.
Where in the rings can we keep our sensation?
Hmm, dreams may be fascination.
Oh, can be our destination You and I can share this dream Wishing for you in my moon dream.
As the lonely and loveless hours go by Will do until you can share all my dreams
Moon dreams Moon dreams
Moon dreams brought by moonbeams in the sky Moon dreams and that was a little far out even for Buddy
Hollens.
you you
But who cares?
The sun is out, the sky is blue There's not a cloud to spoil the view
But it's raining, raining in my heart Little adventure in the pop music, folks!
He didn't quite really pull it off.
Buddy Holly was at his best, rock and roll.
Sounds sort of like a Disney tune, doesn't it?
You can hear the little fairies dancing in the background, you know, with the... There they go.
Sounds more like something Peter Pan would have sang, while Tinkerbell flittered around sprinkling pixie dust everywhere.
But it's raining, raining in my heart.
It's raining in my heart.
And it's raining, raining in my heart.
Oh, misery, misery.
This record was so uncharacteristic of Buddy Holly that most people who heard it didn't know who it was
until somebody told them.
I tell my blues they mustn't show but their neat tears are bound to blow clouds raining.
It's raining in my heart.
I do.
Whether it was good or bad, really doesn't matter anymore.
Anything done by Buddy Holly now is good.
After this cut, we're going to open the phone.
Get your fingers on your dial, folks.
After this cut, we're going to open the phone.
See how you like this special broadcast and see if you've got anything to give us as an
input on Buddy Hollis.
Maybe you attended one of his fantastic rock and roll shows.
The number is 520-333-4578.
I've done with everything in line.
I'm sick of trying.
I've thrown away my knife and waited all my days over you.
Well, you go your way and I'll go mine, mine forever to be.
In your time I'll find somebody new, baby.
We'll sail with you and it won't matter anymore.
Thank you for listening.
We're going to open the phones, folks, and take your calls.
Good evening.
You're on the air.
Good evening, Bill.
This is Bill in North Carolina.
I knew the answer the instant you started the... The Big Bopper.
This was a ritual a college roommate and I, we celebrated.
They celebrated.
We remembered every year.
The day the music died, February 3rd, 1959.
And like you said, when we realized what it was, the question was, we would be kicking ourselves.
And I did.
I have enjoyed it immensely.
Well, I knew it was going to be tough for many of you to catch on to what I was going to do because a lot of people think that's out of character for me and they really don't know me very well because it's very much in my character.
The disc jockey in you sort of comes out, I think, in moments like these.
Well, it's been a lot of years since I've done it.
I did it when I was 16 and 17 years old As a high school student in Japan for the Armed Forces Radio Network.
And the only reason I did it is a friend of mine was doing it, whose father was in radio.
And who was working with the Armed Forces Radio Network.
And he said they were looking for a teenager to do a rock and roll show.
And you know, I loved rock and roll, so I jumped at the chance.
And of course I made a lot of mistakes in the beginning, but I had a real good time.
But I really haven't done it since then.
But, you know, I'm just really having a blast tonight.
I'm really enjoying it.
A similar situation back then.
You probably didn't get paid much.
You don't get paid much now to do it.
I didn't get paid anything, Ben.
It was the prestige.
I did it every evening after school.
And on weekend it was 12 hours on Saturday and 12 hours on Sunday.
And the music was piped to all the teen clubs.
And of course it went out on on the armed forces radio on my after school stints but on
Saturday and Sunday they just broadcast two hours which was gosh I forgot the name of
that show on Saturday and Sunday but it was a different kind of show all the teenagers came
and they danced and it was just a great time.
I guess I got more aware of Buddy Holly and his music from the movie and I was listening
to things that you were saying and the music that was played versus what I remember of
the movie and there were some similarities and I'm sure there's some discrepancies but
not enough to worry about but you're right he is an American.
An Abenom.
A legend and you look at the people who have recorded his music.
From Linda Ronstadt to the Rolling Stones and everybody in between.
So it's that fact and the fact that he was only, we'll say, in the mainstream music for
two and a half, three years before he died and got all that done.
So that's really amazing.
Yeah, that's true.
He really wasn't a hit for very long.
He wasn't even recording for very long.
And most of his real hits were done in Clovis, New Mexico, a place nobody would ever dream
that big, super rock and roll hits would ever be recorded.
And if you ever drive through Clovis, New Mexico, even today you would never think that anything like that could ever happen in that sleepy little New Mexico town.
Exactly right, sir.
Well, carry on and, uh, we've got the tapes rolling and, uh, let somebody else get in.
Great.
Thank you for calling.
Bye-bye.
520-333-4578.
We're going to take calls for a little while and then we're going to go right back to our buddy Holly.
Back to back.
We're going to play every record that he ever recorded in his entire short little life.
One of the things that I find absolutely amazing, ladies and gentlemen, is that here's this young man with this fantastic sound.
And you can hear it tonight.
You can hear he started off with country and western.
Then he went into bop.
Then there was a period of time when he tried to imitate all of the other people who he was hearing that he liked.
Not all of them were famous.
Elvis Presley wasn't famous then, but Buddy Holly sure picked up on Elvis and imitated him quite a bit.
You see, Buddy was really trying to figure out who he was and what his music was.
And he wasn't settled into that groove yet.
But you can hear it develop slowly but surely.
You can hear the Buddy Holly coming out of all the imitations in the background in the country and western and the bop songs.
And then one day, he had it.
And when he had it, that's what made him a star.
I've always known this all my life, ladies and gentlemen.
The only way to be great is to do what's in your heart.
Not what you hear somebody else doing.
Not what you see somebody else doing.
Not what you think somebody else wants you to do.
But what's in your heart.
It's what makes you different than anybody else who lives on this earth.
It's what made Buddy Holly different.
And pretty soon, This man was one of the greatest rock and roll stars in the history of music, and he remains to this day.
No one, no one, no matter how hard they try, has been able to up one on Buddy Holly or any of the other real greats for that matter.
Chuck Berry, oh my, you talk about a great rock and roll artist.
Chuck Berry is the heart and soul of rock and roll, and that's why I opened up this second session of tonight's broadcast with a little bit of Chuck Berry's Johnny B. Goode.
The number is 520-333-4578.
I'd like to hear what you think about this.
If everybody really likes this, we're going to do this a little bit more often.
As we expand the network and expand our programming, we want to make sure that our affiliate stations have something to broadcast.
And we want it to be the best.
Always.
And I think this is one of the ways that we can do that.
We're furnishing you with some of the best broadcasting available anywhere.
And folks, we sincerely hope that you like it.
Because if you don't, we're going to not succeed at this, and that's something that we've just absolutely got to do.
So, give me a call.
Tell me, what do you think about this kind of Is it a special?
I don't think it's a special.
I think it's a... What is it?
It's a special presentation, is what it is.
It is special.
But it's a presentation.
It's not a special.
You know, I've got music here that you guys just absolutely wouldn't believe.
It's amazing.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Yes, Bill.
Brought back memories and it's nice to throw a little positive in on it once in a while.
I hope you do it more often.
God bless you and keep up the good work.
Well, thank you.
I really appreciate that.
You know, I heard a phone ring when that call came in and there's not supposed to be any other phone on this line, so I'm going to have to play something while I go track down whatever that phone But Ring was, because it's just not good for the broadcast.
So, I'll be back.
Listen to this.
This is, uh, you know who.
Hello, baby!
Yo, this is the Big Momma speaking.
Oh, you sweet thing.
Mr. Big Muffin speaking.
Oh, you sweet thing.
You want one?
Will I want one?
Oh, baby, you know what I like.
Chantilly lace and a pretty face and a pony tail.
Hangin' down, wigglin' a walk and a wigglin' talk.
Big world around, ain't nothin' in the world like a big-eyed girl that makes me act so funny.
The number is 520-333-4578.
In our memorial program commemorating the works of the Big Bopper.
From your listening to net, Richie Vallance.
And of course, the great Buddy Hollett.
But, oh baby, you know what I like.
I'm standing here in the lane, I got a dirty face, I got a fawny tail, I'm hanging down.
I wiggle as I walk, and I wiggle as I talk.
Lord, baby, the world goes round, round, round.
There ain't nothing in the world like a big eyed girl.
It makes me act so funny, makes me spend my money.
I feel real loose like a long necked goose, like a girl.
Oh baby, that's the one I like.
What's that, honey?
you Think you of the race?
And don't be late!
But baby, I ain't got no money on it!
But baby, I ain't got no money on it.
Oh, alright honey, you know what I like.
That silly lady had a pretty face.
On her tail, a hand down.
A wiggle and a walk, and a giggle and a solo!
Say, the world goes round.
Ain't nobody in the world like a big-eyed girl.
Makes me act so smart, makes me feel smart.
Makes me feel real loose, like a long-legged shooter, like a girl.
Oh, baby, that's the one I like!
Nobody could do that like the Big Bopper.
That's what made him famous.
I mean, he really was a disc jockey.
He came from out of nowhere.
Nobody ever heard of him except the people who listened to his rock and roll shows down in Texas, Beaumont.
And I had a great aunt and her uncle that lived there.
And I heard J.P.
Richardson many times, known as the Big Bopper, because the dance craze at that time was the Bop.
520-333-4578 is the number.
Let me hear your input.
I'm really interested in how you're enjoying this broadcast, if you are.
If you're not, then I'd be interested to know that also.
And if everybody thinks that this is good, then we'll try to do a lot more of it.
Or at least a little more of it.
Or maybe some more of it.
Or maybe not any of it.
Who knows?
So, anyway, let's do this in memory of Ritchie Valens, and then if there's no more calls,
we'll just go on and complete the rest of this memorial broadcast.
O Rana, O Rana, O Rana, O Rana, O Rana, O Rana, O Rana,
Anywhere can you be? Now that you're gone, I'm all alone.
All by myself, I'm on the meadow, But I know my daddy's gone away.
Anywhere can you be?
When the sun is shining strong, I'm all alone.
O Rana, O Rana, O Rana, I know you're gone another day.
Anyway, I'm never in the same, Cause I love my daddy gone away.
Anywhere can you be? O Rana, O Rana, O Rana, Ritchie Valens and one of his biggest hits, Rana.
He also did La Bamba, for those of you who might remember that, and quite a few others.
Unfortunately, I've got a couple of them, but not that many.
And doing the Buddy Holly thing is going to take a long, long time, folks.
It already has.
We've got a long way to go.
This coming up is what's known in the Buddy Holly life as the New York era.
It's likely that Buddy Holly's music would have been affected by his move to New York in the autumn of 1958, for even if the feel of the city didn't affect his songwriting, there were other influences to be reckoned with.
In Clovis, New Mexico, Norman Petty had encouraged a relaxed studio atmosphere, which he felt was the opposite of his own experiences in New York studios.
When I was signed to a major label, I was granted a three-hour session.
I was not really satisfied with what we had done within that time, but the company said, that's fine, we'll put it out.
However, creativity does not come by the hour, and in Clovis we adopted a different approach.
When the boys came over, we would just work as inspiration hit all of us.
We'd work for long periods of time.
Then, if we felt a dry spell of creativity, we'd break and do what we wanted.
Some of us would go and watch cartoons at the local theater.
Buddy would play pool, or chase the girls, or whatever.
And it was more or less a fun thing of when you felt like doing something, do it, and when you didn't, don't force anything.
In severing his relationship with Norman, Buddy must have taken this into account.
He must also have realized that no matter how good the session musicians were in New York, for enthusiasm and sympathy with what he was doing, they just couldn't compare with the Crickets.
Which may explain why Holly hadn't recorded since his October string session with the Dick Jacobs Orchestra.
After nearly eighteen months of intensive touring and recording, It's possible that he was glad of the break, but it's tempting to speculate that he was hoping the Crickets would join him in New York eventually.
But one thing was certain in Holly's mind.
If he was going to consolidate his position as an entertainer, he would have to spend most of his time in New York, where he was close to his record company and publishing company offices.
He also had Maria Elena's feelings to consider.
Buddy had planned to build his own studio in Lubbock, but having spent most of her life in New York, Maria was hardly likely to take to Lubbock, Texas, even if Lubbock had been prepared to take to her.
So Buddy and Maria set up home in a modest but comfortable apartment at 11 Fifth Avenue in New York's Greenwich Village, and it wasn't long before Buddy began recording demos and ideas of songs in the apartment.
Good evening, you're on the air.
from Norman Petty who remembers.
Buddy had suggested he get himself a professional tape recorder.
So I suggested the latest model and he said, no, I want the one that Peggy Sue was recorded on.
The one you carried to Oklahoma City.
This was a portable but professional machine and that was the recorder that Buddy had in his apartment
in New York City.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Hi Bill.
Hi.
This is Jackie.
I recognize your voice.
I'd be happy to my dear.
We could have the next dance together.
I'd be happy to, my dear.
That's why I called.
Well, of course you can.
When the next record plays, I'll dance with you right here, and you dance with me right there, and we'll waltz right
through the universe.
That's cool.
This is fun tonight.
Great.
I'm glad you like it.
And thank you very much for not preempting my program.
Well I would have except for the fact that you were being picked up for the first time
by a couple of affiliates, one of them pretty large as your leaders, your listeners, the
word I'm groping for, as your listeners discovered.
A 90 watt station is not something that we want to lose out on.
Actually he's 95 watts.
That's true.
He's getting out 15 miles, 10 miles strong, out to 15 and people are picking him up 20
miles away.
Oh, sure.
When you get up to 90 watts, 5 more doesn't make any difference.
Okay, well, I'm the stickler for, you know, bags.
That's powerful stuff.
I'd venture to say that he's getting out a lot farther than that, because I'm hitting... They can pick me up in Greer.
Which is, and I'm only 25 milliwatts, but I'm broadcasting from the top of a mountain, too, which makes all the difference in the world.
Uh-huh.
They can pick me up in Greer, which is, I think it's 15 miles away.
Right at 15 miles.
Oh, that's wonderful.
It's exciting, isn't it?
It is.
It's very exciting.
Our antenna went up on the roof today.
Uh-huh.
So, I did my first program tonight, hooked up to all of that equipment.
I know and your sound was just wonderful.
Was it?
It has improved so much and you sounded so good and for the first time your music sounded like really good professional music.
Well I wasn't holding a phone up to a tape recorder.
And I was proud of you.
Thank you.
Well I just want you to know that I love and I'm so proud to be on this network.
And I don't know how it's going to happen, maybe what you're doing tonight, you know, filling the in-between time, but you have to be the DJ, you know.
Well, we can't do that all the time.
I know, I know, I know.
But it would, you know, if you could, it would be incredible.
But I think filling the dead time is very, very important so that our affiliates don't have to keep switching channels.
Well, we'll do that as fast as we can gather programming and we'll try to do as many specials as we can within reason because this is very expensive.
None of us who do any of these things to try to save this republic are making any money.
In fact, we're causing our families to go through great sacrifices and of course, I don't know about you, but I don't have Any personal fortune coming to me from any of this.
But it's fun, and it's worthwhile.
If you know you're doing the right thing, and you trust in God and just do it, then that's reward enough.
You know what I'm enjoying about tonight so much?
You.
Me?
What?
I didn't do it.
Because you're having so much fun with it.
That's true, I am.
You and I talked, you know, before I decided to You know, go on the air with you.
And I was critical of myself, and you said, well, it's going to take a while to develop your radio personality.
Yes.
Well, tonight, you aren't a radio personality.
Tonight, I feel like I'm hearing Bill Cooper.
Really?
Yeah, Bill.
And I'm enjoying it with you, and I'm feeling it with you, and sometimes I'm one of your greatest skeptics.
And sometimes I'm one of your greatest fans, and tonight I'm your greatest fan.
Well, great.
I appreciate that.
Okay.
Thank you.
Good night.
And keep it up.
Oh, I will.
Okay.
Well, that was a nice call.
Let's go back.
Let's go back to New York.
Buddy Holly had also recently obtained a new Gibson acoustic guitar.
And he used this on most of the tapes he recorded in his apartment, although in many cases he was just trying out ideas.
Buddy would spend hours getting the songs right before putting them on tape, as Maria remembers.
And I'm going to go right straight to the music, folks, because I've got to tell you something.
It smells like something's burning here, and I've got to check out and see what in the world's going on.
So, here we go.
Well, folks, I was almost about ready to lose my mind.
I could smell electrical wires burning.
At least, that's what I thought it smelled like.
And I could just see my whole broadcast studio going up in smoke.
It turned out that Annie was cooking plastic!
You see, every once in a while, she has to sterilize Allison's milk bottles.
And they're all made out of plastic.
So she puts them in this big pot and fills it full of water, and turns it on and lets it boil for a while.
And every once in a while, she forgets that they're boiling, the water evaporates, and the plastic cooks, and we have to buy a new pot, and that's what happened tonight.
or does it stick to the ground
Do you recall a girl I've known nearly every time
This is what I heard Of course the story could be wrong
She's the one I've been told Cause she's wearin' a band of gold
They used to jog there Not long ago
you Peggy Sue got married and now
Buddy's crying, waiting and hoping that he'll find another Peggy Sue
Crying, crying, waiting, waiting, hoping, hoping, you'll come back I just can't seem to get you off my mind
Crying, crying, waiting, waiting, hoping, hoping, you'll come back You're the one I love and I think about you all
the time Buddy's crying, my tears keep on falling all night long
Waiting, waiting, feels so easy I know it's wrong.
Cause people cryin', cryin', waitin', waitin', hopin', hopin'.
You'll come back, maybe some day soon.
change and you'll be mine.
Thanks for watching.
I hope you enjoyed this video.
If you have any questions, please leave them in the comments section below.
I wish I was not doing this now so I could go outside and get some fresh air.
you Burnt plastic is the most foul smelling stuff in the world
besides a skunk sitting on your nose.
I've got a great deal of love that comes through, these great words that you've been through.
When you love her and she doesn't love you, your whole life is changing.
When she says that we'd be fine together, when you find that you are possibly mistaken,
I see you in the mirror and you are the one I need, I confess that you're a game.
I'm a game.
the it
bin the
the them
okay the
Keep building murders in the game.
Angel of her, and she loves me, loves me so You're only love in the game
Hurt me sometimes, that could be wounding Still never lost, in the end I could say
But the worst that's making me blush Feeling things bad, and you're all I need
That's the real love in the game Angel of her, and she loves me, loves me so
Hey folks, I went and put on my gas mask and I checked the filters and I found out that
They're ABC, which is the best.
That was a lot better now.
Thank you for your attention.
Thank you for watching.
Time goes by, I'll still remember you.
That makes it tough.
What's the time when you tell me you don't love me?
You don't love him.
That makes you sad.
What's the time for it?
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Please, please don't give up.
He's no more.
you The moon will follow me forever, ever and ever.
Though I know my dreams cannot come true.
All those precious things we shared together.
Time goes by, I still remember you.
And that makes it tough.
Oh, so tough.
When you tell me you don't love me.
That makes it tough.
Oh, so tough.
When you say you don't care for me no more.
You, you, you, you, you, you.
And I first started getting a little worried.
What if it's really a midnight snack she's fixing?
See if it works.
I'm in trouble!
One, two, three... What to do now that you need us more than you ever thought possible?
What to do?
What's the point of me?
What's the gain?
What's the use in keep on feeling lonely?
What's the wrong with me?
What's the gain?
The rocket launch, the moon, the night, the moon, the stars, the stars
The third shot, the last miscue, the heartbreak, the straddle What to do? I think I'll have a service
the photo shop who wants the food i'll make you a straddle to take the day i do my holiday shavings
me so
me do
I know you guys don't know what I'm doing here, but I'm relating ammo while I'm doing
i know you guys don't know what i'm doing here but i'm relating you more well i'm doing this broadcast
this broadcast.
What they tell me, that's what they say.
I'm living here in the sand, I'm in love with that kind of thing.
I'm living on the...
Hello, you're on the air.
Hi, I just want to tell you I'm listening and I think it's real fun.
Here's your party.
Well, thank you.
That's great.
It feels like it was just an unplanned party and we're all sitting in on it and it's a really good time.
Is this Retha?
Yeah.
See, I recognize your voice.
I thought I don't know if I'm calling too soon, but I'm really having fun and I wanted to tell you.
Indiana.
What do you mean calling too soon?
Well, I don't know.
I called, you know, not that long ago and I thought I don't want to call too often.
Let other people call in.
Oh, you can call any time you want as long as it's not, you know, two or three times on the same night.
Well, I'm sure having a good time.
I love this music.
It's really fun.
Oh, yeah.
Well, you're right in there where, you know, a few years behind me, maybe, but you're right in there.
Lots of happy memories in that time zone.
Wasn't it great?
Oh, it was wonderful.
Those were the times.
I mean, you know, when they say that was an innocent era, it really was.
Right.
You had to be there to really understand, I think.
Yeah, I can't imagine.
It's hard to tell our children, isn't it?
Well, it's hard to tell them because they live in a world that we had no part of.
Right.
We didn't know anything about at all.
And so, you know, we had a longer and probably more innocent and, I think, much better childhood than most children have today.
They lose their childhood.
Yes, and it was so much, you felt so much safer.
Oh, yeah.
And the security was just something our children can't know about now.
It's just not the same anymore.
The entire time that I was growing up, and I'm talking about until I was 18 and left home, I only knew one woman who had ever been divorced, and she was married at that time.
I never knew a girl who got pregnant out of wedlock.
I never knew a girl who got married before she graduated from high school, or a guy for that matter either.
Didn't know any juvenile delinquents.
The worst thing that I ever saw was somebody slip my bicycle tire.
I mean, kids today laugh at that.
That was a big tragedy to me.
Passing notes or throwing trash on the floor.
That was horrible then.
Sure.
Little things like that.
Now it's not the same world.
Yeah, in high school it was really a big deal to take a transistor radio and drive up to Moriyama Park.
Remember, I went to high school in Japan.
And take a case of Heineken's for about 20 kids.
And just, you know, dance in the moonlight.
That was really wild.
That was as wild as it got.
I remember Jim Short fell in the honey bucket well one of those nights and he had to ride all the way back to the base standing on the back bumper of the car because we wouldn't let him inside.
You know what a honey bucket well is, don't you?
It's a fertilizer pit, and I don't mean ammonium nitrate or any of that stuff you put on your gardens.
It might be worse than plastic.
Well, come to think of it, it wasn't very good.
I felt so sorry for Jim because you know how that kind of thing gets around in high school and what kids do with it?
Never hear the end of it.
Oh my gosh, he just never, he never ever got through that.
Couldn't live it down.
No, I'm afraid he couldn't and I was just as guilty as the rest.
It was funny, it was hilarious.
Except for him.
I wish our children could know, you know, a kind of world like we knew then.
I wish they could too because it would be a much healthier, much better world for them.
I'm trying as hard as I can to give my children some innocence before they have to go out and step into this awful sewage that surrounds us.
But, you know, eventually they have to or they'll be taken advantage of and destroyed because they don't know how to cope with it.
I used to try to teach them to beware of strangers and I thought, I don't remember we had to worry about that much.
I heard you talk about staying out all night.
We had neighborhood gatherings.
All the children would get together and sing under the street light all night.
Yeah.
I mean, it was common.
You just roamed the neighborhood and played until the wee hours.
Yeah.
Kicked the can.
Remember that?
And it was safe.
You didn't worry.
I think the only thing I ever heard of when I was small was gypsies, and I didn't even know what a gypsy was, but it might, you know, be a stranger in the neighborhood or something.
Yeah, I remember one time when the Russians launched the Sputnik, everybody, and I mean everybody in the entire world was out in their backyard Lying on the grass, looking up and counting Sputnik's revolutions, you know, until they either fell asleep or the dew fell and they got sunken wet and had to go now.
But, you know... It was a wonderful time.
They sure were.
Well I just wanted you to know I'm listening and I think this is a great idea.
Well thank you Rita.
It's nice to have some fun.
You know Pooh really loves those letters that you write to her.
I'm having a good time with her.
She can't wait to get your letters and as soon as she gets them she sits down and writes a reply.
She spends hours just you know.
Oh I can tell.
I can tell.
Everybody, well we call it Pooh mail when we get mail.
This is a real big deal.
Everybody can't wait to see what she wrote, you know.
Well, it is Pooh Bear.
Yeah, and I'll show my mom, and she just says, I can't believe she's sick.
Look at this writing.
It's incredible.
She keeps saying, are you sure she's sick?
I said, yeah, isn't it amazing?
And mom loves her handwriting, the way she writes her letters.
Really, they don't teach that anymore.
No.
Well, they teach it here.
In my school.
I'm the teacher.
You're the one, aren't you?
Yeah.
Every once in a while she brings me an apple when we have home school.
Well, she sure is a wonderful child.
She's a joy to know.
She sure is.
And tell her she may get something tomorrow.
Because it went out today.
Oh, great.
Yeah, I'll tell her.
She'll be just tickled to death.
That's something she can watch for.
You know, she's about halfway through Grimm's Fairy Tales.
Oh, that's wonderful.
And she's not reading the children's version.
She's reading the actual adult classic, Grimm's Fairy Tales, which, by the way, were never really written for children anyway.
And she has told me that the next book she's going to read is going to be Jane Eyre.
Oh, wonderful!
So, I can't wait until she gets into that.
Oh, that's wonderful.
And she chose that all by herself.
That's the book that she wants to read.
I know that's the most important thing.
I've heard that you can give your child the love for reading.
Yes.
Because it'll open all kinds of doors for them.
That's true.
But you know what's amazing to me?
I know adults that can't read Jane Eyre.
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
So this is, you know, it just makes me glow with pride.
I'm just so proud of her and so happy that our efforts with her have all been fruitful.
It's your example, too.
She knows you love to read, too.
Oh, that's true.
I know how you love books and everything.
That's a wonderful, this is just a wonderful thing when a child falls in love with books.
Yes, it is.
And it opens up a whole new world.
Everything, every bit of wisdom and knowledge That has ever been garnered by the human race is in books.
Oh, wonderful.
And that's the only place that it is.
When you mentioned how if it's not on video people tend not to even, they don't even bother.
It's like they don't want to strain themselves.
I thought that was so true.
Yeah, it's like everybody wants it now.
They want to wait until it's on video and they can just lay back and stare at something to tell them.
They want it now and they want it with no effort.
It's the age of greed and selfishness and fast food, which means fast everything.
Yeah, and they're missing so much.
They sure are.
They sure are.
Well, it'll catch up to them because soon they're going to be missing everything if these new world order people get their way.
Yeah, that's true.
I find myself groping for words tonight and I've never had to do that before.
Maybe you're getting tired.
Well, I am tired.
And the plastic might be.
A little bit toxic.
Yeah, well I had my gas mask on for a little while.
I know, I was tired laughing.
I could tell.
When the records are playing, I turn on the exhaust fan in the studio and so it's a little better.
Nobody will hear it.
Yeah, it's a little better than it was before.
So, anyway, how's Dennis and the boys?
Well, everybody's cracked but me.
Oh really?
Yeah, everybody, they're doing fine, but everybody got sleepy and nobody's left up now.
Well, I know what sleepy means in your house.
They can only go so long.
Sleepy means out.
It means dead.
I saw how you had to carry one of your boys.
Really weird.
You couldn't wake that boy up with an atomic bomb.
No way.
They get to a point where you can steer them if you can get them up.
That's about all.
Yeah, that was funny.
Dennis is just like the boys too.
I knew that.
He'll never admit that to me, but I know it.
Same way.
I guess it's really funny because they all talk in their sleep too and they'll even talk between rooms and answer each other and nobody knows what, they don't remember it the next day.
Oh, that could be dangerous.
That is really weird.
That could really be dangerous.
One time Dennis said, he just got up and sat up in bed and said, fresh off the hoof and on your porch.
And we never get to tell what that was about.
Fresh off the hoof and on your porch.
On your porch.
Maybe sometime in his life he was a meat truck man.
Makes you wonder, but where on earth did he get that one?
I don't know.
Really?
Well, I'm sure enjoying this, and I love this kind of music.
I just think it's a really good time, and when we didn't know you were going to do it, then it's like a party unexpected.
You know what?
I never know what I'm going to do anymore.
That's fine.
Continuity.
I am doing so much now, Retha, that I don't have time to prepare like I used to prepare, and I find myself walking into the studio to do a broadcast with absolutely no idea what I'm going to do.
You're so comfortable with it, though.
Now you've done it for so long.
Yeah, you could probably do it in your sleep just now.
It's still very uncomfortable to have to do it that way.
Yeah, yeah.
But, you know, I just am doing so many things.
Are you still writing your books?
Yes, I'm doing that.
I thought you probably were still working on that.
You know, sometimes I sit down and reflect on all the things that I'm doing and I'm absolutely amazed that I'm doing them.
Yeah, it is an awful lot to do.
Number one, and number two, I'm amazed that Annie hasn't hit me over the head with a sledgehammer in a long time.
And, you know, she might.
I mean, maybe, just maybe, she was cooking that plastic on purpose.
Did you ever think of that?
Well, no, I heard, I was worried about you when you said that because I thought, now, I heard Teflon, if you leave your Teflon skillet on, Are real highly poisonous.
Well, none of this stuff is good for you to be breathing.
Plastic isn't good either.
And when your wife starts cooking it... I mean, you know, who knows what's going to be for breakfast tomorrow?
I certainly don't know.
Well, I'm sure having fun here.
I wanted to be sure and call and tell you because this might be your New Year's Eve party.
Yeah, that was a lot of fun.
That was fun.
And that was a lot like this too.
And I thought Jackie was right.
I hope I get to meet her someday.
I think she was right in that talking to you is what is the fun part.
The songs are fun but you're more fun.
Oh really?
Because you do have a fun personality.
It's fun knowing you and that's the best part.
Well I'd much rather be doing this kind of stuff all the time.
I really would.
In fact I wouldn't be doing any of the other stuff that I'm doing if we weren't in such dire I mean, we're really in deep trouble, deep trouble, way beyond most people's even inkling of a conception of what kind of trouble we're in.
With the book and all that stuff, too.
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
That was a great gift to your country, going out on a limb like that.
Well, we're still out on that limb.
You're the only one who, I mean, you and Michelle together, and everybody with that, your family, but that was the only way that information could happen.
It never would have come out.
That was the position you were in, and you knew you could do that.
You were the only one who could.
Yep.
I hope everybody appreciates what I do.
By the way, we've identified John Doe No.
2 positively, with no doubt.
We know where he lives and who he is, the whole works.
We're not going to tell the world yet.
But we did communicate that to the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and right after we told them, and told them that we have solid witnesses, they then withdrew the work for John Doe No. 2.
John Doe number two was a government agent.
John Doe number two and coerce the witnesses in Oklahoma to lie and change their minds
and say that it was some sergeant out at the military base.
But you know, they're just digging a hole for themselves.
It just keeps getting deeper and deeper.
John Doe number two was a government agent.
How about that?
Well, this just gets thicker and thicker, doesn't it?
It certainly does.
Well, I'm sure glad you're there, Dagan.
I sure am.
And I think everybody, another thing I have been wanting to tell you, if everybody could ask at their libraries to get the books there, sometimes they can do it without even spending the money themselves if they can't afford to get a copy for the library.
I think that would be a good idea for everyone to do.
Yeah, they can go to the library and ask the library to get the book.
At our library they have allotted funds and they will first choose the books that people at the library will request.
So the money is already allotted to be spent and so we've been doing that, contacting different libraries and requesting that they purchase them, also your books.
Which our library now has and if he's checking on computer he can see what's in and out.
The book's always checked out and always with a new due date so we know it's going around.
Well that's great.
Being read.
So we're real happy about that because he's the one that requested they buy it.
You know my book was published in Germany?
It was!
Just a few weeks ago and I just got my first royalty check today.
Wonderful!
And it is unbelievable how many books that they've already sold.
That's wonderful.
I was flabbergasted.
I just was floored.
And so we've sent them a copy of Oklahoma City Day One to see if they'll publish that.
Also, my book Behold a Pale Horse is being put out on Audiobook.
It's going to be in every truck stop in America pretty soon.
I guess who's doing it?
I have no idea.
You are, I hope.
No, not me.
I'll tell you in a little while.
Okay.
I'm not going to tell you right now.
I'll tell you in a little while.
Who's putting my book out?
You're not going to believe it.
When it was first published, nobody would touch it with a ten foot pole.
And when it first showed up in bookstores, they started hiding it in the New Age section.
I understand it's still there.
Some bookstores wouldn't even put it on the shelf.
They'd put it under the counter and you had to ask for it.
And in New York City, in, I forget the name of the bookstore, it's, oh, Barnes and Noble.
It's the most stolen book they've ever had on their shelves, and so they don't put it
on the shelf anymore.
Well, now it's at Waldenbrook here, in our town.
Yeah.
And that's where I got my first copy.
Well, pretty soon it's going to be on the highways of America.
Oh, that's wonderful.
And in the hands of all the blind people.
Oh, that's wonderful.
I'm thinking talking books, is that what you're talking about?
Audiobooks.
Audiobooks, okay.
Yeah, the same books that, you know, you can go into, you know, along the highway.
Oh, I used to get them, they called them talking books if you're legally blind.
Uh-huh.
And you could get, that's why I wondered if that was the same thing.
Yeah, it's already been recorded for the blind and the blind can get it for nothing just simply by going through their service, whatever that is.
But this is audio books.
When you're traveling on the road, when you stop at a truck stop for gas and get something to eat, you go inside and you see this big book rack.
At first you think it's books and you go pick one out and it's a plastic case and inside it has audio tapes.
That's what it is.
Oh, wonderful.
I love the way you read stories, too.
Oh, really?
The way you read a book, I just love the way you do it.
And when you read Michelle's, I love the way that you selected the music that went with it that set the mood.
How did you know I was going to read my book?
I am.
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