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March 15, 1996 - Bill Cooper
59:49
Mike Apante
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Thank you.
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And I'm William Cooper.
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Okay.
Well folks, let's go right straight to Phoenix for the medal report with Frank.
Hi, Bill.
Welcome back.
We missed you.
Well, thank you.
We had some very exciting times while you were away, in case you were.
I'm sure you were catching on the news.
We saw some pretty wild swings happening in the Dow.
One point time, that 171 points drop came back on the following Monday, only to see some very heavy trading the following day plunge dramatically and rise back.
What we've been able to determine is that it's primarily been sell-off by Great Britain.
Most of those assets were sold by, you know, the sales were out of the British Isles, and most of the people that bought up were the amateur mutual funds.
We've talked about it in the past.
There's over 7,000 mutual funds.
Primarily, these have been generated in the last five years.
Most of these have come online.
It's been with a reduction in the workforce.
Of all these brokerage houses on Wall Street, they've been laying off people by the droves by the thousands.
So what do these guys do?
They start growing mutual funds.
It's actually a very simple process to do.
So, that's what we saw them doing.
They thought they were getting these bargains in bottom fishing, and in the meantime the big boys are getting out of the U.S.
market, and the small fry are buying it up thinking it's a great value.
Today we saw some fairly heavy trading on the Dow.
529 million, which is a lot of trading.
You know what, Frank?
Somebody wrote me a letter and said, what's the Dow?
Okay, what's the Dow?
Why don't you explain that right quick for those who don't know.
One more time.
The Dow is the 30 blue chip stocks that are supposed to be representative of the New York Stock Exchange.
What it is, is one share each One stock share of each of these companies added together is $5,584, which it was today.
So it's basically a compilation, it's an accumulation of the value of one share for each of these 30 stocks.
So if you had one share of each of these 30 stocks, you would have made, what, $1,500 over the last year?
Something along those lines.
If we look at dividend yields, though, if we look at dividends paid, if you held one share of each of the Dow stocks, the Dow Industrials, and you went with dividends paid, not with the rises in value, because that's not really applicable, because you've got capital gains and inflation and a lot of other things, but just on dividends paid, it would take you 47 years to get your principal investment back.
That's how poor a value the stock market is.
But this has been a classic.
These last couple weeks while you've been away has been a classic indicator of a market top.
A lot of volume, and ultimately going nowhere.
Gold's been holding very steady.
It's been in a narrow trading range between $3.93 and $3.96, and it's holding right in there at right around $3.96 today.
Some interesting articles, Bureau of Ingredient and Printing was making some comments about The Treasury, it's like, well, why is the Secret Service understating the seriousness of the counterfeiting problem overseas?
Understating it?
Understating it.
That's what Bureau of Engraving and Printing is saying.
The Secret Service is trying to downplay this.
And yet, if you look at the $100 Federal Reserve notes, you will find a lot of them will have a variety of silly stamps on them.
Or, you know, stamps from foreign countries or Chinese stamps.
It is just about a requirement any longer overseas If you are making a deposit at a bank that you stamped your company ID on there in some fashion so in terms of counterfeit they can come back to you for restitution.
Well we did some research on this and we actually called the different banks and we visited some and we called the Federal Reserve and the United States Treasury Department And what we, we asked for specific statistics that we could check.
And we asked for, you know, how many bills come back in, how many bills are destroyed, how many bills are put into circulation, and all this kind of thing.
And what we came up with is this whole counterfeit thing is a lie.
It's a scam.
It's not true at all.
Exactly.
And it's been pointed out, you've got to figure out where and who is, what are they coming, what's their game?
You know, they come up with this lie, this fabrication.
That counterfeiting is a problem.
And then what we start seeing is these other nations start doing it.
Because I mostly keep things that, you know, the things that I do keep, I keep in $100 notes, what I don't keep in gold.
That way I'm able to turn it quickly if I need to.
But I see these stamps a lot.
Okay?
From, you know, from Nigeria fishing and some various Japanese and Chinese.
And just many other nations will all have these stamps on it.
These are just some very interesting articles as to why that is.
So, you know, they're setting a fear factor out in the globe that I find very interesting.
And I don't care who or what Secret Service or Treasury says, to me, there's got to be a devaluation.
If they don't do it, international countries will.
Just by their lack of trust, and they start discounting the sale of these things, it's going to be an automatic the law of supply and demand will take over.
So we're in for an interesting ride.
The new notes are supposed to be issued on the 25th of this month.
So it's going to be very intriguing to see what occurs.
Well, I think all this counterfeit scam scare is to drum up acceptance of the new money.
And number two, to encourage businesses to stop accepting the old money so that people will be forced to exchange their money immediately because it's worthless if nobody will accept it.
Exactly.
And so the government can legitimately say to the American people, well, you know, there's not going to be any currency exchange, and then they're going to force you to exchange your currency like immediately.
We have already seen the communications that they're sending to corporations and chain stores and businesses which clearly says that for your own good as soon as the new money is issued stop accepting the old money because we've been flooded with counterfeit and if you bring counterfeit to the bank we will not accept it as part of a line.
So when you add it all up the only The thing that really makes sense out of it all is devaluation.
Yep, I got it.
And it's for all those people that have Federal Reserve notes, and I've talked to a few of them.
They've got these things buried in ammo cans.
They've got them in their safe deposit box.
Like we pointed out, it's not money.
It is nothing.
It's a worthless security by legal definition.
And what will happen is these people won't turn them in.
They're too stubborn to get it in the gold.
And ultimately, they will have absolutely nothing for their effort.
I can't understand why somebody would rather have a piece of paper than an ounce of gold.
I mean, think it through.
You can take a Federal Reserve note to the deepest jungles of South or Central America.
You can take a piece of gold.
Even a tribal person down there knows that gold has value and doesn't.
What's the deal with some of these allegedly educated people here in this country that they can't recognize the same thing?
I don't know.
Quite frankly, I'd rather have a roll of toilet paper than... Oh, I'd have some, too.
You know, Federal Reserve notes make poor toilet paper bad.
They tend to leave us sane and on a rash at times.
But, uh, Mallory, if you've got it... You're nasty, you know?
That's a reality.
That's a reality.
We won't say how long it's going to happen one time.
But anyway, the truth of the matter is, I mean, people have saved, some people have saved for a rainy day, and they've accumulated quite an amount, and they can't get over the fact that, you know, they think it has value.
They just can't change that line of thought.
And it's sad for all the effort that they put forward to accumulate this, character worked up It's just gonna be wiped away, and, uh, But I guess they're going to get exactly what they deserve for their lack of knowledge and their lack of foresight.
Yes.
But we're in for some interesting time this month.
Hey, like we talked about, what, two months ago, I asked you when is this going to happen?
Uh huh.
March.
It makes sense.
Yeah.
It fits into their pagan philosophy.
That's right.
It all fits.
It all dovetails.
Clinton recently, I was watching television and just like he was reading it out of an esoteric manual on, oh gosh, my brain has just gone dead.
What do you call it when they have their whatever?
Their ritual?
Ritual, that's the word I'm looking for.
Just as if he was reading it out of an esoteric ritual manual.
He said, the spring is coming!
Spring is coming!
He said, let this be a new rebirth, he said.
Oh yeah, when you understand Mystery Babble, when you go through and re-listen, or for those that haven't, when you understand the philosophy and how these people operate, It all makes sense, and they're pretty easy to figure out.
Yeah.
It's real basic.
And the thing is, they think themselves to be so intelligent and not making any mistakes, and yet they make plenty of mistakes.
Yeah, well, I found myself yelling at the television.
Are you talking to me?
Are you talking to me?
I can't.
I hate to watch C-SPAN.
I need to watch it to see what's going on, and I'll watch it for brief periods of time, but then you just get so incensed that you just have to turn it off.
It's disgusting to watch, but they are, at least they are admitting to doing certain things out there that they are going to do to us.
And that's why it is prudent to watch it, but it is tedious at times to get through that program.
Very tedious to watch all these lies and fabrications and knowing that they'd get away with it.
Yeah, Schumer threatened the whole nation on the floor of the House.
No, it doesn't surprise me.
and the rest of the entire nation.
Yeah, he said, if you don't pass this anti-terrorist bill, if you knew what I knew, you'd pass it.
You're going to be sorry, is what he said.
I guess they're going to blow up another federal building.
Maybe a school this time or something.
Don't go to the Olympics, okay?
Oh, you couldn't catch me dead at the Olympics.
If I did go, you probably would find me dead.
Yeah, exactly.
So take it and take it for what it's worth.
You've hit it right on the head.
There more than likely will be another incident.
In fact, I told you that when you were here.
They're going to hit the Olympics.
That's exactly what our intelligence tells us.
They're going to hit the Olympics.
So if you were planning on going, I would change my mind if I were you.
No way.
Not this way.
I wouldn't give them the satisfaction of spending any of my hard-earned resources at that pomposity anyway.
Because all it is is glorifying the rebirth of Atlantis.
Yeah, that's true.
Okay, I'm not going to support that in any fashion whatsoever.
And the disaster that they promulgate will hasten the rebirth, they hope.
Yeah, remember that little chart and graph that I showed you when I was up?
Yeah.
For how to work that?
I'm going to drop you a note as to what I've got, reference some information on that.
I think you'll find it and I'm sure it'll dovetail in with yours.
Okay.
And if you've got any questions on how to work that, just give me a ring.
Okay.
Any specials or parting?
No, not right now.
No specials right now.
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Not a newsletter.
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Okay.
Alright, sir.
Thank you.
You have a good evening.
We'll talk to you later.
Okay, Frank.
Good night.
Bye-bye.
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Okay, folks, we have a special guest tonight, and I was sort of bumping around up on the mesa earlier this evening, and lo and behold, there was this little red car sitting there, and I snuck around and peeked inside.
I found my grill Oh, blueberry hill Oh, blueberry hill When I found you
Oh, blueberry hill Lo and behold, ladies and gentlemen, there before me was Michael Aponte and his wife Sharon.
And I scared the devil out of them.
They were locked in a passionate embrace, overlooking the little town of St.
John's.
And so I grabbed Mike and brought him to be our guest tonight.
Mike is the editor-in-chief of our newspaper Veritas.
He's responsible for all the layout and the work.
Well, he's the editor-in-chief.
He's the big boss man.
He's what makes it work.
He does it all.
Welcome to the Hour of the Time, Mike.
Thank you, Roland.
Thank you for the introduction.
Well, you're welcome.
Why don't you tell us a little bit about Who you are, and how you got here, and what this paper is.
I mean, they've heard it from me for a long time.
They needed to hear it from the man that makes it.
Okay, well, my name is Michael Aponte.
I studied at Cal Poly Pomona in electrical engineering for five years.
I worked as an electrical engineer for three years, and well, it wasn't something that I thought it was.
I started hearing the same old thing, and this is probably you'll hear in different companies, different fields, where they talk about We're competing with a global economy and we have to downsize and at the same time with the fewer employees, those fewer employees have to work even harder.
So I was just sick of hearing that and I got to know Bill and then Bill made this offer of starting a newspaper and I was really interested and here I am.
And I'll tell you what folks.
If Michael wasn't here, there wouldn't be any newspaper.
And I'm not saying that flippantly or lightly or anything.
It's the truth.
There just wouldn't be a newspaper.
Mike can tell you, and I can tell you, that I don't have time.
I just don't have time.
I am busy from the time I get up, which is usually around 9 or 10 in the morning until 3 o'clock in the morning.
And I just don't have time.
I'm doing so many things.
And so Mike has taken over and is really doing the paper.
I do some of the editing.
I write a lot of the stories that are in there, whether they're under my name or under Kaji News Service.
They're either written by me or rewritten by me that were submitted by legitimate members of the Kaji News Service.
But Mike does all the rest.
And Mike finds the photographs and finds other stories and handles the letters to the editor And if you don't think it's a hard job, sit down and try to do a newspaper in your home, the quality of the one that we have, Veritas.
And most of you, I know, have seen it.
Some of you haven't.
And just see how far you get and how long it takes you to get that far.
And then you'll understand what a tremendous job Mike does.
Why don't you tell us about the paper, Mike?
Well, Veritas is a 14-page full-size newspaper.
We print articles that you won't find in any mainstream media.
In fact, even our competitors that print the same kind of articles don't even cover the same detail that we have.
In fact, what makes our paper special is that we do cite our sources.
Yeah, sources and documentation.
That's right.
Many times we print documentation verbatim.
In place of writing a story about it, we'll print the actual documentation.
So that you don't have to take anybody's word on it, and you don't have to go research it.
I mean, you can read it right there in Veriton.
That's right.
One example was a Veriton speech.
I had a lot of people calling, and they were very impressed that we happened to be the only newspaper that actually wrote his speech verbatim.
In the whole world?
Yeah.
In the entire world, we're the only newspaper that printed that speech from beginning to end, verbatim, word for word.
Without one single word missing.
That's right.
And boy, you'd think that wasn't a job.
You can thank Michelle Moore for doing the transcribing from tape.
What are some of the problems that you run into, Mike?
Well, my first problem was learning how to use the program.
You see, when you do a layout, you just don't fill the pages according to the articles you have.
It's like a puzzle.
You can only put so many articles for that page, and then you have to save the rest in other pages.
And the reason why is you don't want to fill two pages with one whole article, because presentation-wise, it's just not good, and it's going to lose interest with the readers.
Yeah, you can only have so many words in each article, and there's 14 pages.
So everything has to be squeezed into those 14 pages, and sometimes we have to do re-editing and all kinds of things to make things fit.
But the point I want to make, you know, I had forgotten about it until you made that statement.
You had to learn the program.
Yeah.
Have you ever done a newspaper before?
I have never done a newspaper before.
This is totally new for me.
You've never done a newsletter?
No, I haven't.
So you're producing one of the finest newspapers in the United States of America and you've never done it before in your life.
I never have.
This is all brand new to me and I have to sit down and learn it and at the same time I'm meeting monthly deadlines and you have subscriptions, distributors, advertising, everything's happening.
Yeah, and you're doing it all.
You and Sharon.
That's right.
And I do a little bit, but mainly it's mine.
And what program do you use?
At this moment we're using the Aldis PageMaker version 6.
And that is, that's what?
What kind of program is that?
It's a desktop publishing program.
I have to ask him, folks, because I don't know how to use it.
And that's the truth.
I really don't.
It's not a word processing program.
It's a desktop publishing program.
With a word processing, it's something where you would type letters, resumes, but with a desktop publishing program, you're actually doing newspaper layouts.
And you could do a magazine?
That's right.
You could do brochures?
And you can do the best that people have ever seen if you want.
And if you have a color process, a color printer, you can actually do what they do in the finest magazines with that program.
That's correct.
Wow.
That's impressive.
I wish we had all that color.
We can only do black and of course the blue on the front page, which is our trademark.
But how did you...
Learn how to lay out a newspaper like you have.
Well, what I would do is I would look at major newspapers and I would just compare their layouts and I would just try to match something close to theirs.
Like the front page, for example, if you look at our first few issues and compare it with the current issue, you're going to notice that the format is different.
It's a little more exciting.
You're going to have more articles in the front page compared to the previous issues.
That's because that's what the major newspapers do.
They want to attract your attention and just show that each issue is packed with information.
And you tried to pick the best of the layouts that you've seen.
That's right.
I've had people call me and tell me that our paper is the best paper in this country.
And they weren't talking about content.
They were talking about the layout and the way that the paper is presented.
And I was amazed because I'd never done this before and you'd never done this before.
The most I'd ever done is do a, you know, off of a printer from a word processor, a little newsletter, which was like writing a letter was basically what I was doing.
And so you've certainly done a tremendous and very wonderful job.
What, you know, People out there don't understand where we get the information and the things that we put into the newspaper.
And basically it comes from two organizations.
Right.
CAGI, the CAGI News Service, and we have I think about 800 members of the CAGI News Service.
And we have the other, I'll tell you, the most in-depth and the most well-researched and the most unknown Information comes from the intelligence service and I can't tell you how many members of the intelligence service nor can I tell you anything about them and won't.
But you will see things in our newspaper that you won't see in any other newspaper in the world simply because we have an intelligence operation that is gathering information that's not available to anyone else in the world.
And we have the organization that's able to get that information and get it to us, and we're able to verify it and then print it.
But we also accept articles.
They don't have to be professionally written, but they have to be, what?
Tell us.
Well, it has to have, first, good content, and they have to definitely cite their sources, because what I get is a lot of opinion articles, and that's fine, but we want something that also is good, hard facts news.
That's right.
But we do accept opinion articles, and we do accept guest editorials, and we run those all the time.
But we do demand that anything that's stated as fact has to be sourced and are documented.
Both is better, but one or the other is what we absolutely have to have.
Right.
That's something that we do demand because I get phone calls where people actually, they have questions about the article, and I just have to say, well, read the article and look for the sources that are cited.
And we have to do this because we're going to get flack for it if you don't do it.
That's what makes us a solid newspaper.
That's right.
And, you know, it's amazing.
We'll cite the sources in the article and rather than go to the source and verify the information, people will call us.
Right.
Now that's insane to me.
I mean, we put the source in there so they can verify it from the horse's mouth and go and do the research and discover whether the information is true or not.
And they call us and all we can do is say, here's the article, here's the sources, we gave you everything that we know, go for it.
Yeah, I had this one case.
This is regarding that IRS, BHS criminal fraud headline article.
Well, they were showing this to their friend, and that person called me up and asked me, is this true?
And I also had people also do the same article.
They're showing this to their friend, and their friend just wouldn't believe it, and they don't know how to present it to their friend.
I would say, well, just have them read the article, because the sources are there.
Just have them go through with it.
And it was obvious to me that Both people didn't even read the article.
They just were asking me.
Yeah, well, I think they read the article but they don't understand what a source is and they don't understand how to do research.
And they don't understand that they can go to any federal depository library and get the sources, if they're government documents, and look up and we give them the publication, the chapter, The subsection, paragraph, and sometimes right down to the very line of where to look.
And they'll call us and say, you know, is this true?
The reason we do that, folks, is so that you can go check it and verify it for yourself.
Right.
And see if it's true or not.
Now, there's some articles that we do where we can't cite sources.
We can document things, but we can't cite sources simply because the sources are afraid.
Or they would be subject to ridicules, such as the last headline article We ran on the cattle mutilations.
This is something that's been occurring since about 1964 in this country.
And it has unfortunately been connected with flying saucers and UFOs and the UFOlogists network.
And so people do not like to have their names connected with it.
So all you can cite is where it happened, and then people have to go and check the local newspapers and publications and look up the sources for themselves.
Gallup, what can we... Oh, letters!
We've been getting letters to the others, and we appreciate each one.
Let me see.
How do they go about sending a letter to the newspaper?
Or to the editor?
Or to you?
What you have to do is just go to page 2 and what you're going to see is in a shaded box you're going to see instructions of how to write to us and you just merely follow those instructions and you send it to our address.
And if you've been reading the newspaper, folks, and you've been paying attention to the letters to the editor column, you know that we print all the letters.
And we try to print, if we get bad letters, we try to print them, make sure that they get in there first.
Right.
We try to be fair.
We show the good and the bad.
We don't want to show people that we're only presenting the good opinions.
I mean, that would be biased.
We also want to show that there are people out there that, for example, they get offended with some of the symbols that we use, like Nudas Veritas on the front page and our sheeple graphic.
Why don't you talk about that?
Why do we have this nude lady as the I in Veritas?
Veritas is spelled V-E-R-I-T-A-S.
And the I is a tall letter I, which within that letter has a nude woman.
Believe me, folks, it's presented in the best of taste.
There is nothing there that is obscene or could be considered to be rude or insulting.
and the top of the torso is covered by the woman's hair, and in the pelvic area there is absolutely nothing there, period.
It is no different than a doll that your daughter plays with every single day.
And I know that these people who call and complain about it have daughters who have dolls who look just exactly like this, and they're hypocrites, is what they are.
But tell us what this is for, what it means and why we put it there.
Okay, well, that lady represents a universal symbol for truth.
She's a make of truth.
And that's all that is.
It's not pornographic.
It's just a symbol.
And you've all heard me, ladies and gentlemen, tell you that if you want to know what's really happened in this country, go in your bathroom and look in the mirror, the truth will be staring you in the face.
And this is what she's doing.
She's a naked woman looking in a mirror that she's holding in her hand, and there she sees the truth about herself.
And that's what it really means.
Right.
She's just a symbol.
I mean, if you look through our newspaper, we have a lot of information there.
Don't brush our newspaper just based on that symbol.
I mean, look.
The sheeple cartoon represents the sleeping American people who really don't know what's going on.
And with the captions that we put there every month, it's to somehow get them excited, whether they're angry.
It's just to get them excited and let them know that this is not what they should be.
Right.
It's a wake-up call.
Right.
It's a, hey, this is where you're at.
And if you don't like that, if it insults you, if it makes you angry, then you need to do something to change that.
Right.
Because, to tell you the truth, that cartoon is never coming out of this newspaper until Americans are awake and there are no more sheeple to write about.
And if you talk to an intelligent person who understands what's going on with this country and you refer to that graphic, they'll just laugh and they'll say, well, it doesn't apply to me.
It doesn't even offend me whatsoever.
I understand the purpose of that graphic.
Right.
You know, throughout my life, I found it very amusing that if you walk down the street and you stand in front of a bank and you all of a sudden scream, Stop!
Bank robber!
Stop!
Catch that man!
I find it extremely amusing that anyone would take offense to that or come up and say, Why are you calling me a bank robber?
Because you see, if they're not a bank robber, why would it concern them?
Why would it make them angry?
That's right.
It's like when I talk about the sheeple on the radio.
Sometimes I get letters from people, ladies and gentlemen, that rave about the fact that I called them, personally, a sheeple.
When in truth, I didn't even know that they existed until I got their letter.
I wasn't talking to them.
Don't know anything about them.
But they recognized, in their own mind and in their own heart, that they were a sheeple.
That I was talking about them.
And they were insulted because they didn't want to hear it.
And that's the truth.
You see, if I'm talking about sheeple, or if we're talking about a cartoon in the newspaper that represents the sheeple of America, it's not going to insult you unless it is hitting you in the bread basket.
Unless it applies directly to you.
I can be walking down the street and somebody could say, Hey Blankety, Blankety, Blankety.
I don't even turn around because I know they're not talking about me because I'm not Blankety, Blankety, Blankety.
That's right.
Now let's, oh me, we need to do something here.
Okay.
We've been yapping on and yapping on and missed a break.
So let me, let me do that right now.
So hold on folks.
We're going to do a little break.
Mike works so hard that sometimes, especially when we're close to deadline, he actually sleeps at the office.
And sometimes this is what we see of Mike.
Oops, that's the wrong one.
Maybe I've got it all botched up here.
I don't even know where I'm at.
Is this it?
Let me see.
Nope, that's not it either.
That's not it either.
Well, I think I messed up the music here completely.
Yes, I did.
So we won't do that at all.
What we'll do.
Oh, I know why I did it.
I know exactly why.
Folks, this is why.
I had the music all set out and all queued up to play.
And then Sharon, Mike's wife, came to me and asked me to play this dedication just for Mike, because the show is for him, and he is our honored guest, and she loves him very much.
Mike doesn't know anything about this.
Mike doesn't know anything about this.
Feel it.
Oh, got to feel it.
Feel it.
I've got to feel it Feel it Babe, I've got to feel it Come here, baby I want to hold you in my arms.
Just let me kiss you, I love you, I feel you.
All the time.
no the the the
Who are you?
How they are, who are, who are.
Touch me, love the way you touch me, the way you touch me.
Just love me, I love the way you love me.
You know I'm young, I'm young, I'm young, I'm young, you're not a good bitch, I'm a good bitch. you're not a good bitch, I'm a good bitch.
Oh, baby. baby.
Basically, that's what they were doing.
I caught them up on the rim.
That's okay, folks.
They're married.
Why don't we talk about the distributorships?
We've got a good plan for people to make money selling our paper.
Go ahead.
That's right.
With distributorship, you have two choices.
Either you can actually make money out of it or distribute copies for free to friends, relatives, and any other loved ones.
Or at cost if you want.
But this paper sells, folks.
When people see what's in this paper, it sells.
And if you're looking for a way to make a second income, This is one of the best ways that you could ever have.
You can distribute it to bookstores and magazine racks or go to conventions and trade shows and all kinds of things and sell this newspaper and make a pretty decent piece of pocket change.
Not pocket change, you could actually make a living if you did it full size.
Tell our listeners about how they can become distributors and what the price breaks are and what they have to do and all that stuff.
Okay.
To be a distributor, you just send a check or money order and have that payable to image 1216.
You send it to our address, which is P.O.
Box 3390 at St.
John's, Arizona.
8 5 9 3 6 I would recommend that you send it before the end of the month before we actually go to press so that I can actually have a account to take to the press.
And now let me give you the price breakdown.
The minimum quantity would be a 25 quantity package, which is $28 and that includes shipping and handling.
The next package is for 50 quantities.
That's for 49.
And that also includes shipping.
Well, actually all these prices include shipping and handling.
Again, for a 50 quantity, it's $49.
For 100, it's $92.
For 500, it's $385.
For $100, it's $92.
For $500, it's $385.
If you have any other, if you have a quantity larger than that, you can give me a call, and that's at 520-337-2878.
If you want to purchase larger quantities to resell, then Mike will give you a better price break.
But what's the price of the paper?
What's the retail price?
The retail price per issue is $2.
And so, you're making 100% on your money, aren't you?
That's right.
In fact, you're making more than 100% if you sell all your papers.
That's correct.
Is that correct?
That's correct.
Let me give you an example with a 25 quantity package.
Where you would spend $28 and the profit per package would be $27.50.
And that's for the lowest quantity.
That's right.
So you're not making 100% on the lowest quantities, but you are on all the rest.
That's right.
It actually goes over 100% at the 50 price break.
That's right.
Where it costs you $49 and you're going to resell them for $2.
You can resell them for less than that if you want to, but we don't recommend it because there's no reason that you have to.
How many distributors do we have right now across the country?
Across the country?
I wouldn't know right now.
Can you take a guess?
Probably at least 20.
20 distributors across the country?
And they're taking quite a bit of newspapers.
That's right.
And how do people subscribe?
For people to subscribe, again, you send a check on money order.
It's for $35 and that's for 24 issues.
Send it to PO Box 3390, St. John's, Arizona 85936.
And your subscriptions will start with the next issue, which would be issue number 12.
And they make check or money or payable to?
Oh, it's payable to image 1216.
Image 1216.
And the address is Veritas PO Box 3390 St.
John's, Arizona 85936.
And the address is Veritas, PO Box 3390, St. John's, Arizona, 85936.
Now, when we say 24 issues, folks, we're putting out an issue once a month right now.
If we ever get to the point where we can afford to hire a staff of people we'll try to come out sooner than that and even sooner than now and down the line.
But right now it's once a month because basically we've got two people creating and producing a paper that it takes a hundred people to produce every other paper in this country that even remotely comes close to.
Two hours.
I'm exaggerating on 100, but I would say it would take at least 25 people to produce a paper of our quality.
And with the information that we have, it might even take 100 people of any other paper.
And when we're talking about 24 issues, that's what we're talking about.
But it doesn't mean once a month, folks.
It means when the issue goes to press and is sent out.
So right now everybody is getting a paper once a month.
You might in one month get two papers.
You might get one paper in two months.
It's never happened and I don't anticipate that it will ever happen.
But if Michael got real sick, it might happen.
So I've got to tell you that 24 issues means 24 issues.
It does not mean 24 months or 24 weeks or 24 years or anything like that.
And we've been sticking real close to our deadline and have been getting the papers out on time.
And folks, this is way beyond anything that I ever thought we were going to be able to do.
In the first place, I never dreamed that we would be able to produce the quality that we're producing.
Our full-size newspaper, I always thought when we started that it was going to be something like a tabloid size, but I wanted to do a full-size newspaper, and we sat down and talked about it, and what happened?
And we stuck with a full-size newspaper.
By the way, with the material we have, and considering our competitors, they do not go with a full-size newspaper.
They stick to the tabloid type.
Yeah, that's right.
So we're breaking new ground with a full-size newspaper.
We sure are.
And we're also experimenting with a lot of cost-cutting measures and all kinds of other things because, to tell you quite frankly, we barely made it for a while and we were in the hole.
And our subscribers came to the rescue by Paying a steep initial charter subscription price and then later when we came out of the red, we were able to lower the subscription price.
But if it had not been for those charter subscribers willing to pay $55 for 24 issues, the paper would never have gotten off the ground.
That's right.
At the beginning we just had steep, steep costs.
And I have to thank all of you who were charter subscribers for being willing to take a chance On Veritas and I know that all of you were richly rewarded and you can also be rewarded in the fact that if it had not been for you it would not have survived.
That's right.
We also do something else that nobody else does.
Oh, we hand deliver issues to representatives and major news and print bureaus in Washington DC.
Every member of the House of Representatives, every member of the Senate, every member of the President's Cabinet, the Vice President and the President receive copies of our newspaper and from what I understand the special messenger tells us that the President has actually requested and gets three copies every issue.
And the Vice President also.
Three copies every single issue.
So they want to know what we're doing I guess and we're telling them.
That's right.
And we're providing it to them whether they like it or not.
That's right.
A few have called and asked to be taken off our list, and we tell them, no, you are public servants, and we're going to deliver this paper to you whether you want it or not.
So they do get it.
I don't know where it goes when they get it, but... That's a different story.
That's a different story.
But we can assure you that they do get the paper.
Every single one of them.
And if you call your representative or your senator and ask them about it, and they say they don't get the paper, We can prove that it is delivered to their office.
So if they're not actually seeing it, that means one of their staff members is keeping it from them and you need to advise them to tell their staff to make sure that they get to see this paper.
But whether the senator or representative or cabinet member actually sees the paper or not, the people around those people see it and read it and we know that it's making an impact in Washington, D.C.
because we have Actually caused things to happen after the BATF IRS criminal fraud article appeared.
It caused such an upheaval and such a stir in Washington DC that the IRS actually immediately stopped performing random audits.
on American citizens across this country and began an investigation into their own historian, from whom we got a lot of the information that was published in the article.
And what came out, because they began to investigate their own historian, their own historian went to the press and spilled the beans on what they're doing and how they're hiding the truth of their origin and their records from the public and how they've been disobeying their own historian went to the press and spilled the beans on what they're doing and how they're hiding the truth of their origin and their records from the public and how they've
So that there could be a permanent record on file.
And the director of the National Archives has now ordered the IRS to conform to the law and deliver up their historical records and their records each year to the National Archives so that there can be a permanent record.
So, folks, you know, we're just people just like you.
I'm no different than any of you.
Mike is no different than any of you.
We're just normal ordinary people who care.
So if you think that you can't make a difference you're wrong.
Tell them Mike.
You can make a difference.
That's absolutely true.
You can make a big difference.
All you have to do is decide how you're going to do it and do it.
And you don't have to be an expert.
I mean, we didn't know how to produce a paper.
That's right.
We started from scratch and it took a lot of hard work, but we're actually getting the hang of it.
Yeah.
And how many times have you had to sleep in the office?
Wow.
We've all slept in the office at different times, but Mike, I think, has slept there more than You shouldn't even say sleep.
Actually, I've lost sleep.
That's true.
I mean, if you're going to sleep in the office, there wouldn't be any reason for being there, would there?
I mean, there were times where I didn't even sleep and I was just, you know, worked all night through and come nine o'clock, we're ready to go to Gallup and go to press.
Yeah.
We got a little time.
You want to take some calls?
Okay.
If any of you want to talk to Mike and ask him anything about the newspaper or Or whatever you want to do.
I'm going to open the phones right now and we'll go the rest of the hour on the phones with Mike.
It's 520-333-4578.
So the phones are open.
520-333-4578 for all of you who may be new listeners or never wrote it down.
Good evening.
the phones are open.
520-333-4578 for all of you who may be new listeners or never wrote it down.
Good evening.
You're on the air.
My name is Ray from New York City.
Hello, Ray.
And we love you up here.
I just want to keep it short because there isn't too much time.
I didn't hear if the House bill passed or not.
Are you talking about the anti-terrorist bill?
Correct.
I'll tell you quite correctly, I've been busy all day and I don't know.
Okay, well, I don't want to take up any much more of your time, but I just want to say keep up the good work.
God bless.
Godspeed.
Thank you.
520-333-4578 is the number.
If you have any comments or questions, you want to direct them to Mike.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Hi Bill, hi Mike.
Hello.
Hi, this is Dave in Albuquerque.
I just had a question about the publishing software you use.
Uh-huh.
Which one do you use?
It's Aldis PageMaker version 6.
Okay, so that's the Windows 95 version?
Yes.
Are you using Windows 95?
Yes.
And do you like using that?
The PageMaker, I mean?
Yes, I'm comfortable using it.
Right.
Okay, well, that's kind of what I wanted to know.
Thanks a lot.
Okay.
Bye.
Thank you.
I can tell you that, from my experience, it's not easy to learn.
It takes time and hard work.
And Mike has devoted all that time and hard work, and he's our expert.
Good evening.
You're on the air.
Thank you very much.
This is Daniel from Houston.
Is there a possibility of reprinting the article about the Soviet military man who was present at the demolition of one of our SAC silos?
Is that a candidate type of article for the newspaper?
I think this happened a while ago.
I don't know, was that in the newspaper?
Was that in our newspaper?
I heard it, but it's on your press.
No, we've done a lot of broadcasts about the disarmament agency, about State Department Publication 7277 and the fact that there are Russian officers and representatives of the Russian government here to supervise the disarmament of the United States of America. about State Department Publication 7277 and the fact that there And it's, you know...
What you said is all correct.
Yeah.
The verbal description of the article, and you had read it on one of your programs, was from the personal interest of a man who is not a national of our country, talking about what he's accomplished.
And it really had impact the night I heard you read that article.
But anyway, thank you very much.
You're welcome.
We try to put what we consider to be the most important information and articles in each issue of Veritas.
And sometimes it's a hard choice, folks, because you have no idea, no conception of the amount of paper and information that flows into us every month.
It is absolutely incredible.
520-333-4578 is the number if you want to call in and talk to Mike for the rest of the hour.
Good evening.
You're on the air.
turn off your radio Yes.
Yes, I'm enjoying your program very much, and I think you do an excellent job every night.
I'm calling from Miami, Florida, and we have had very serious problems in the state of Florida with our legal system.
We have close to maybe 800 lawyers now that have joined together toward the Bar Association.
It is so horrible down here in Miami that I mean, people just don't believe in the system.
A little while back, the U.S.
Attorney came in and he nailed five judges for taking close to $300,000 with a kickback from undercover FBI agents.
People just don't believe in the system.
I mean, it's sad, but I guess we have the best system of justice that money can buy, and there's an awful lot of judges being bought these days.
What's your question for Mike?
Well, I just feel I wanted to see if you had some concessive opinion.
We strongly feel here in the state of Florida, and probably other cases, that the lawyers in this country have got a stranglehold on every single American citizen out there today, and that the average person is one frivolous faucet away from bankruptcy.
Do you care to make a comment on that?
Well, the reason why the attorneys have such a stranglehold is because a lot of Americans are pretty ignorant with the law.
It's just something that they don't want to deal with, and that's why they hire an attorney.
And the attorney will just mention all this.
The attorney rigs it, so the amyokia of all your money, and then when you don't have any more money, he'll let you hang out there on a limb, and you might win a little bit back, or you might go to jail, or you might end up with nothing.
But I guarantee you that the wealth of everybody that walks into court is transferred into the hands of attorneys eventually, and some of it goes into the pockets of judges.
Right.
We have four big trucks running up and down the highways in Florida.
You hear big signs in the back of the trucks that say, Restore the Constitution.
Don't vote for lawyers and others.
Don't give these people a chance to destroy us any more than they already have.
So I thank you for your program.
Thank you for calling.
Thank you.
520-333-4578 is the number.
And we've got time, I think, for one more call.
Good evening, you're on the air.
Yes, good evening, Charlie from New Jersey.
I have a question.
You say you print the paper using your Aldis software.
How do you get from the computer to what do you bring to the printer?
Good question.
Well, what we do is we do a manual paste up on the layout paper and we deliver those layout sheets to the printer and what they'll do is they'll just run copies of that layout sheet.
What comes out of your printer?
Standard 9x84?
Or is it oversized, full size paper?
What will come out is an 8.5x11 tile.
And we just manually paste those tiles together and we come up with a layout sheet.
And it's not easy.
I mean the tiles don't always fit together.
There's a lot of work that goes into that.
We had to build a special table with lights under it.
And we have to use a special paper that's extremely white and bright.
Because when it goes to the printer, they have to photograph the layout and make the plates and then run the presses and the paper comes off the presses.
Some of them come off half-fold and some come off quarter-fold.
That's right.
Okay, thank you very much.
You're welcome.
And it is a long, drawn-out process.
It's an awful lot of work, time-consuming, meticulous.
And then there's a long, long drive to the printer with the layouts and then we have to stay there all day.
And sometimes Annie and I have done it.
Most of the times Mike and Sharon have done it.
And then sometime in the late afternoon rolls off the presses and you load up the truck and then there's a long drive back.
And then you have to label every paper and then we have to sort it into zip codes and then we have to go to the post office and we have to pack special boxes for the distributors.
So, you know, now you know why I get extremely angry when somebody tells me that they're only one person and there's nothing that they can do.
Right.
Because we're only... This newspaper is handled by a staff of four people.
Yeah.
And not only that, but this broadcast.
The Intelligence Service, the Citizens Agency for Joint Intelligence, and we do a lot of other things that most of you don't even know about.
That's it, folks.
Thank you, Mike, for being the guest tonight, and thank you for all the wonderful work that you've done.
Without you, there wouldn't be a newspaper.
Thank you very much.
Good night, folks.
Good night.
And God bless you all, and this is what we think the world should be.
And by the way, I really like old Louis Armstrong anyway.
Is that him?
That's not him.
Well, I got screwed up again.
See, that request just got me all off.
Here we go.
Good night.
We're good to go.
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