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Ladies and gentlemen, in Massachusetts State, a bill is coming up for a vote.
It's Massachusetts Senate Bill S-1226.
That's S-1226.
It's coming up for a vote Tuesday, the 27th.
That's tomorrow, ladies and gentlemen.
This bill would ban possession and sale of nearly 200 firearms.
200 firearms!
Grandfather possession of those purchased prior to January 1995, and it would allow the Secretary of Public Safety, who is a political appointee, the very worst person you can imagine, and I don't mean that personally against the person, but as a position, a political appointee is the worst person you ever want to be making decisions like this.
It would allow the Secretary of Public Safety, a political appointee, to add to the list at any time Any weapon that he or she wishes, which means literally just a few weeks, every firearm on the face of this earth could be banned in the state of Massachusetts, depending upon who the political appointee is and what their political agenda happens to be, and for the state of Massachusetts.
Don't we really already know that?
Also, bans magazines of more than ten rounds.
Folks, if you live in Massachusetts, you've got to get busy on this one.
Tomorrow you've got to call everybody.
All of your representatives and state senators tomorrow.
You must do this and you must start early and don't stop.
The State House phone number is 617-722-2800.
That is 617-722-2800.
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Again, that is the Massachusetts State Senate Bill S-1226.
That's S-1226.
Coming up for a vote tomorrow.
Don't go away, ladies and gentlemen.
We have One of my favorite people as a guest tonight, and somebody who has done an awful lot to try and prevent what I have just read off to you from happening all across America.
It's Mr. Aaron Zellman, the Director of Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership.
And we'll be right back with Mr. Zellman in just a moment.
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Aaron, welcome to the Hour of the Time.
It's a pleasure to be with you, Bill.
Well, it's a pleasure to have you, I must say, with all the work that you've done, and now you've done something that I think is excellent.
And I didn't get to go through it and study it as I normally do when I prepare for a broadcast.
As I told you, we had some problems with taking the paper to press, and I actually had to do two press runs, but I did go through it.
And ladies and gentlemen, the holding in my hands, actually it's a comic book, and it's for children.
And it teaches them the truth about gun control and about the ownership of guns.
How did you come up with this, Aaron?
Well, first of all, let me just add that it's for kids of all ages, from 8 to 88.
Well, I sort of thought everybody would take that for granted.
We're finding lots of adults out there who are thoroughly enjoying reading it more than once.
Well, it certainly catches your attention right off the bat, and I don't know anybody who doesn't like comic books to tell you the truth, even though some adults like to pretend that they don't.
Well, you don't have to tell us they read it.
The reason we came up with the idea, Bill, was that JPFO was spent, well, we're six and a half years old, so we've spent the last several years doing some We've been doing extensive research on the Nazi roots of America's gun control laws and doing research on how gun control is the key to genocide.
And there's an audience that enjoys all of that, but we found there was really lots of other people that we're not reaching.
And we think it's just crucially important that we reach the younger generation, the next generation.
Because in four years, every 14-year-old whose head has been filled full of mush and lies will be able to vote.
And in two years, every 16-year-old whose head has been filled full of mush and lies will be able to vote.
And in just a few months, every 18-year-old can do it.
Well, that's really scary, isn't it?
And so it is scary.
And I think that a lot of people have not been focused on what a short period of time we have left in America to get to the next generation.
And to help them understand and help them develop a positive image of firearms ownership.
And help them understand why it's imperative that their parents be firearms owners because it's in their best interest that their parents indeed be gun owners.
And so that's why we came up with this little booklet called Gun Control Kills Kids.
The opposite message of what the schools are telling kids.
The propaganda in the schools, the propaganda from Sarah Brady and the rest of that ilk, is that gun control is just wonderful, and the more we have, the better off you'll be.
Nothing could be further from the truth, as history has shown, that gun control is indeed the key to genocide.
And all we need in America is the right group of hate mongers running the government, and they've already shown that they have an extreme dislike for devout Christians, That's absolutely correct.
Now, one of the things that I never understood for a long time in my life, and I was probably worse than the average sheeple for a great many years, I had no real understanding as a young man that the world was going to be inherited by me.
And I don't think the children in the world today really understand that any more than I did when I was a young man.
It took me a war and a whole bunch of other things to finally get my head on straight.
How do we get to this next generation?
Well I think that every adult listening to this broadcast tonight is going to have to In the next few days to fall they're going to find a grandchild or neighbor's kids or somebody and they're going to sit down with these kids and they're going to talk to them about that they are indeed going to be running this world sooner than they think they are.
And they're going to be inheriting the mess that we call the world.
Yes, our mess.
Our mess, yes.
And our father's mess.
Right.
Again, it's one of the reasons why we created this little booklet, Gun Control Kills Kids, to help them at least understand what's in this area, that they don't want to be in a society where there is gun control, because it's not in their best interest.
The little booklet gives kids a world history lesson and an American history lesson to help them better grasp why we have a Constitution, why we have a Bill of Rights, and why one should not have blind faith in government.
I think if there's one lesson that adults can give to kids, that definitely would be don't have blind faith in government and don't believe all the lies that politicians are more than happy to tell you.
And they are lies.
I mean, they're not just lies.
They're so blatant and so clearly lies that you wonder how anybody would have the courage to stand up knowing that they were lying and say some of the things that they say.
Why don't you give us some of the, uh, for-instances?
Uh, well, uh, first of all, let me just say, I think this has become a standard operating procedure in the political arena to lie.
That probably explains why they do it, uh, without even blinking an eye.
Uh, I think some of the for-instances, uh, I'll give you an example.
My eight-year-old took, uh, gun control, uh, kills kids to school, and, uh, he showed up with some of his classmates.
I thought I was gonna have some angry parents, but lo and behold, no one called.
And one of his classmates came back to him and said, Eric, what do you mean I have no right to police protection?
So apparently he's been raised in one of these what I call a 9-1-1 household.
And his parents probably naively believe that if they've got a problem and some criminal is at the door that they can just call 9-1-1 and the problem's going to be solved.
The truth is... There's a real blatant lie in our society today.
Yes.
Most of us who have been part of the Freedom Movement understand this, but you'd be amazed that millions and millions of Americans who don't even know something as basic as that they don't, they do not have a constitutional right to police protection.
And the Supreme Court has also ruled and actually said that.
In one case, South v. Maryland, that was the Supreme Court, and in the Court of Appeals, the Bowers v. DeVito, they also made it very clear that no citizen has a right to That's a good example of one of the most blatant lies, because many politicians who call themselves police chiefs will tell the public, listen, you don't need guns, you can just rely on the police to protect you.
That's got to be an incredible lie, and it is.
Yes, absolutely it is, and the truth is that the responsibility for your protection and the protection of your family and your property lies squarely upon your own shoulders and nowhere else.
Yeah, so I think we've made that pretty clear within the little booklet, you know, gun control kills kids.
What I see here, you know, when I read through this real quick, and I tried to read every word, and I did, is you have taken all the research that you've done, literally, and specifically the research that you've done on the roots of gun control in America coming from the actual and specifically the research that you've done on the roots of gun control in America coming from the actual but But throughout history, wherever gun control has occurred,
Shortly thereafter, some form of genocide against some form of perceived enemy has quickly followed.
That's true.
I guess I would just add one small correction.
In the research that we did, we found countries where edicts were issued one day and within a matter of days they were disarming people and then killing them.
In other countries, gun control had been on the books for decades before there was a genocide.
Just waiting for... It's just a time bomb.
You never know when the right person, if I can use that term loosely, comes along and decides they want to have a genocide.
Rwanda is a good example.
Bosnia is a good example.
These countries have all had gun control and, well, you know, the history is there, but the corpses are all piled up.
Have you, I don't know the ages of your children, Aaron, but have you watched any of the children's programming on television lately?
We don't allow our kids to watch.
Much of that.
We spend a fortune on videos.
We spend time reading to them and they've become very good readers as a result.
Well, we have a daughter, five, and one that is just a little over five months.
But the five year old has been reading since she was three.
She started reading when she was three and started doing pretty good.
And then for some reason slacked off and it was almost like she'd forgotten it all and then couldn't read for a while and now she's reading again really well.
And we try to be very selective about the programming that she watches when she's allowed to watch it.
But there are times, I've got to tell you, when I'm busy and her mother's busy and she turns on the television and we don't know what she's watching when she does that.
And I suspect that that happens in a lot of cases across the country and when children go to visit other children at their home.
I've taken the time to sit down and watch some of this stuff and it is just blatant.
They don't even try to mask it.
It's just blatant propaganda and they're brainwashing the children.
Well, I'm trying as hard as I can.
Again, I think it's important that kids have more conversations with adults who care.
Absolutely.
And again, the little book that I think that we've created makes it easier for adults to start a conversation with a kid.
Well, that's what I'm trying to lead into.
Because this caters to the kind of thing that children like to read and like to look at and are interested in.
And to tell you the truth, it appeals to me, too.
I was an avid comic book reader when I was a kid, and it didn't really matter what kind of comic books it was, although my parents tried to steer me to the classic comic books, which really, when compared to the real works, are no better than Tales from the Crypt, to tell you the truth.
But you have put this together.
In a way that leads children from basically something they really understand.
It starts out right in the beginning talking about what they hear from their teachers in school.
All the propaganda.
And this is basically a conversation between the children and a character named Grandpa Jack.
Grandpa Jack saves them.
Sarah Brady, I guess that's one way to put it.
I love the way you characterized MTV. - And we will not, I don't know.
I can tell you right now, Bill, we sent this out to several hundred editorial page writers throughout America, and aside from a few obscenities from the New York Times directed towards us through email, the rest of these folks have remained stone silent, as have some of the people in the electronic media.
So I think that we've hit the nail on the head here that they can't handle the truth.
And they don't like the idea of children having the truth put before them in an entertaining format.
I think it's just amazing that there's an establishment of liars in place that even when they see the truth, haven't got the guts to admit it and say it and say, this is the truth of the matter, I was wrong.
You know, that tells me that there is something incredibly, incredibly, terribly wrong in the psyches of those people.
And if we allow them to capture the minds of our children, we're liable to have a nation of crazy people here pretty soon.
Well, I think another way to put this is that, quite frankly, we have people who have an agenda here, and their agenda can be summed up in one word.
Yes, without any doubt.
And they really don't care about the end result.
They're elitists and they have what they want and they think they'll have even more of what they like.
They don't care to what extent they go.
I think the end result is maybe the only thing that they care about.
In my research that I've done, don't they have a philosophy of the end justifies the means and if to reach the end and they believe the end is good, they're justified in doing whatever is necessary including Murdering billions of people if they have to?
One of my members who was a reformed liberal, now a conservative, said the best way to understand the liberal mindset is to think in terms of the Ted Koppel and the Charlie Schumers of the world, don't care how many eggs they have to scramble to make their perfect utopian omelet.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, that pretty much says it in an eggshell.
Did you just sit down and think this up, or did somebody suggest this to you, or was it sort of a committee decision or what?
I try to avoid doing things by committee.
I'm not a communist.
That's good advice.
I will tell you that I must say, Fred, I did come up with the concept of Grandpa Jack and then I did share it with other people to help them or have them help me polish and grind it and to perfect it.
Who did the artwork?
We had a professional illustrator, Dick Haver.
He's brilliant at what he does.
He's been doing these types of booklets for years and he's done them for people who were running against Michael Dukakis and Ted Kennedy.
He's even done artwork, booklets for donors of America.
So the guy truly is top-notch.
We're already working on the sequel, by the way.
I love the way that you put this on a level that anybody who reads it can understand it.
And it really makes gun control proponents look pretty silly.
And when somebody who doesn't understand that they're being lied to actually sees the truth compared to the lies, This is incredibly eye-opening.
For instance, when they make the statement that over a thousand kids a year die in gun accidents, and talk about how terrible that is, and wouldn't it be wonderful if they could save all those children, and then you find out the real numbers are nowhere near that.
Well, what they say, really, is if only one life is saved, then all guns should be banned.
Isn't that correct?
Of course, but you know, I think as the kids point out, since more kids die in automobile accidents than swimming pools, then I guess that means we have to ban all swimming pools and automobiles.
Right.
And even the kids say, that's pretty silly, Grandpa.
They really wouldn't believe that, would they?
But indeed there are folks out there that do that.
I call them the dangerously stupid people.
There's a lot of them out there.
Now according to their statistics, how many kids carry guns to school?
Well according to those statistics it's just hundreds of thousands but the bottom line is perhaps I think around 12 to 14 thousand a day.
No one really knows for sure.
I didn't think that would be a high estimate because I've got to tell you the truth.
Remembering the way we were back in school when I was in school, in a school where I didn't know any juvenile delinquents and I never knew a girl the entire time I went to school that ever got pregnant.
If one got pregnant boy they sure kept it secret from me.
Yes.
But I can remember back then how we were and how we like to carry a little chip on our shoulder and every once in a while we'd get in a fist fight with somebody and it was more or less just trying to gain some self respect and be bigger than what you really were.
If there were really that many kids taking guns to school, don't you think there'd be a lot more dead people laying around schoolyards?
Well, I'm sure there would be.
In other words, again, no one really knows the numbers for sure.
We just did the best we could with the research that was available.
But I think the bottom line is, and again, this is something that just shows you how dangerously stupid many of the people who are running our schools are.
As Grandpa Jack points out, the problem in the schools is that the schools let all these bad kids come in there.
Yeah.
The solution is quite simple, but you've got people who don't want to solve the problem.
That's true.
And in fact, they've made it almost impossible for the problem to be solved.
By the school, the teacher can't discipline the child, the principal can't discipline the child, and the parents have become so unworkable with their own children that if you suspend a child from school, you've got parents screaming and yelling at the school board.
You dared to suspend their child for doing something as crazy as bringing a gun to school and shooting a hole in the wall or something.
Don't you think that they've just gone beyond the point where discipline in school is even possible unless the parents rise up in some kind of a rebellion and restore discipline to the schools?
Well, I think that's part of the problem.
I think the other part of the problem is that there are many criminals.
You've got young punk criminals who are 10, 12, 14, 15 years old who think they can get away with whatever they do.
Yeah, but that's only because they can get away with it and there's no consequences for their actions.
When I was young, if I had not had strict discipline by my parents and by my teachers and heaven help you if the coach ever caught you doing anything wrong, I mean you just almost wouldn't survive that incident.
And getting suspended or expelled from school was about like what people would think if a girl got pregnant.
But there are no consequences today.
I mean, these children are born hoodlums and criminals.
If they had had the proper upbringing, I don't think that they would be what they are today.
And if they had the proper discipline and the proper attitude from their teachers and the environment in school, I don't believe that they would be doing the things that they're doing in school.
Well, I'm glad to tell you here in Wisconsin that they've passed some new laws.
And one of them is that a 14-year-old can be tried as an adult.
And they are sending 14-year-olds to prison in Wisconsin.
Now, that's got to make some kids.
stop and think about what they're doing.
Some of us punk kids sort of get the message.
Yeah.
Unfortunately, we have a police chief in Milwaukee who likes to sit down and have tea and crumpets with gang members.
That doesn't help.
You're the history.
But if you're going to end up in Bariola applying to be a police chief in your city, Speak up quickly and loudly and say no thank you.
Go someplace else.
They do have a tendency to move around don't they?
Well, I haven't moved around in a while.
Well, that's unusual.
We did a study on police departments, police officers, and police chiefs, and we find that there's an awful lot of mobility between police departments and chiefs moving from one city to another city.
And in many instances, bad cops, I don't mean really bad cops, criminals, get to actually wipe the slate clean and start all over again and actually move up in a police department somewhere else when they've been canned in another one.
Because of that.
Because if you have a history of being a police officer, nobody really checks.
But anyway, that's not what this broadcast is all about.
You go through this Grandpa Jack comic book, and it is a comic book, but it's also serious.
It's very serious, but there are some funny places in here, too.
What are some of the most important lessons that this teaches people?
Well, I think that it teaches both adults and kids a little bit of American history.
It's amazing to me that the number of people who think that the government can do no evil, and yet when you look at the American government, it's capable of doing great evil to its own people.
And not just Waco or Ruby Rich.
If you go back during the Depression period, there was a group of people known as the Bonus Marchers.
These were World War I veterans.
Who were destitute, were losing their homes, their kids were hungry.
And they came to Washington pleading for early payment of a bonus that had been promised to them if they lived to be paid to them in 1945.
And this was during the Depression in the 30s.
And they said, just give us less money and we'll forget the rest.
But we need money now.
And they set up a shantytown in Washington, D.C.
And General Douglas MacArthur ordered George Patton and Dwight Eisenhower to turn on these World War I veterans and they turned on them with tanks and tear gas and burned down their shantytown and some of the veterans were killed.
And this really happened in America where the U.S.
government decided to kill veterans.
These men were not armed.
Oh no, they were not armed.
Some of them had their families with them.
They were no threat.
They were just peacefully assembled and protesting as the Constitution grants them the right to do.
And this actually did happen.
Patton and Eisenhower were young officers and MacArthur was in command of this fiasco.
They did exactly that.
They ran over their shanties with tanks and set fire to them and killed, I don't remember the exact number.
I think it was only two or three.
But the point is it shouldn't have happened in the first place.
No.
And these people were literally driven out of Washington D.C.
with nothing but the clothes on their back.
Now what's interesting is the following year when Franklin Roosevelt was brought into the presidency, the bonus marchers came back, and he treated them much more kindly.
He gave them good food, and he greeted them warmly, but no money.
Hold on, Aaron.
We've got to take a short break here.
Hold on.
We'll be right back, folks.
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In the back of your book, Gun control kills kids with Grandpa Jack.
You also have another book here called Lethal Laws, Gun Control is the Key to Genocide.
Can you tell us a little bit about that Eric?
Sure, I'd be happy to.
That's a book we published I think in 1994.
It contains the actual gun control laws from different countries that have had the southern major genocide since the turn of the century.
As well as an historical overview as to what was going on in each of these countries.
And it helps people get a better picture of the historical aspects of all these governments that have come and gone, who thought they had the right answer to ruling the world, to making the world a better place, as long as people were naive enough to listen to the rulers and not think as long as people were naive enough to listen to the rulers and not think clearly, and of And so the historical documents are there.
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And you also have another book called Gun Control Gateway to Tyranny.
How about telling us a little about that?
Bruce, that's a book that's a side-by-side analysis of two infamous gun control laws.
The Nazi Gun Control Laws of 1938 and the 1968 Gun Control Act here in the United States.
Our research shows that the reason there's so many parallels between the two laws is That the author of the 1968 Gun Control Act in America, the late Senator Thomas Dodd of Connecticut, physically possessed the 38 Nazi gun control laws.
And he gave them to the Library of Congress and asked them to translate these laws for him.
And they did!
And we have all that documented in the book, the actual transmittal letter from the law librarian, Lewis Coffin, back to Tom Dodd, saying, just under Dodd, and in so many words, We're returning the Xerox copy of the 1938 German Gun Control Law that you asked us to translate for you.
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It also helps people understand where we're headed if we don't Destroy gun control.
What I like to tell people is, you don't want to fight gun control.
You want to destroy it, because it's a cancer.
Absolutely.
Oh yes.
But the reason they're having this problem, to get back to when you first opened up the broadcast, the reason they're having all these problems in Massachusetts, that's a great example of a state where they've been fighting gun control, but they haven't been making the effort to destroy it.
And now they're paying the price.
What people also don't understand is our government somehow has come in control of liberal socialists and what they don't understand is that all of these socialists try to make people think that Nazis are right wing in some way but the truth is Hitler was a socialist.
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We have people who are National Socialists in America today.
Yes, we do.
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I was amazed to find that the definition of peace, according to Karl Marx, is this, and I'll quote it directly.
I think you'll find people in the U.S.
socialism, end quote.
I think you'll find people in the U.S. government who admire that type of philosophy.
I think so, too, and it might be one of the keys to why the United Nations calls their forces peacekeepers.
Wherever they go...
Isn't there something in the Bible somewhere when you hear the peace, peace, and there is no peace?
I think there's a definite correlation here.
No matter what religion you belong to, it certainly makes a point.
If you run the U.N.
over the years, you've probably read George Orwell's books multiple times.
You think they read Orwell's books, or do you think Orwell, because of his connection with the intelligence community, had a handle on really what was coming?
Probably the latter.
Probably the latter.
Just like Alvin Toffler's The Future Shock and his other books.
Yes, which, by the way, Newt Gingrich... You know, he's one of the elitists, and he understands what the agenda is.
Yeah, he really promotes those books and puts Toffler up on a pedestal as the expert in what's coming in the future.
If you read his books carefully, they're chilling.
Literally chilling.
Are you still there?
I'm still here.
I was just listening.
You know, I think everybody should have as many of these as they can and hand out to children and other people.
I think they should be on tables at gun shows.
I think that I wish I had a whole bunch of them wherever I go and all kinds of stuff.
How do we get hold of large quantities of these little comic books?
Fortunately, we're making them available by the bundle and that keeps the price way, way, way down.
A single copy is $3 postage paid, but a bundle of 50 is just $20 postage paid.
How much for like 100, 200?
That is $38 postage paid.
For 100?
50 is $93 postage paid.
On and on and on.
But I can tell people where they can reach us.
JPFO for short.
For $100?
$93 postage paid, on and on and on.
But I can tell people where they can reach us.
JPFO for short, the address is 2872 South Wentworth Avenue.
That's W-E-N-T-W-R-T-H.
That's 2072 South Wentworth Avenue.
City is Milwaukee, Wisconsin 53207.
And I'll give you our phone number.
It's 414-769-0760.
That's 414-769-0760.
That's 414-769-0760.
Now let me just give that to everybody one more time because I know that some of you didn't get to that pin quick enough.
It's J-F-P-O.
But it's J-P-F-O.
I'm sorry.
J-P-F-O.
Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership.
I do that all the time.
I constantly say J-F-P-O.
It's J-P-F-O.
Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership.
J-P-F-O for short.
2872 2872 South Wentworth Avenue that's in Milwaukee Wisconsin 53207 JPFO 2872 South Wentworth
Avenue Milwaukee, Wisconsin 53207 and the phone number is 414-769 0760 414-769 0760 Now, I know this for a fact but there's a lot of people out there who don't.
You don't have to be a member of the Jewish faith or to be Jewish in order to belong to Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership.
Is that correct, Aaron?
That's very true.
We have people from all walks of life and from all around the world who join our organization for one reason.
We're extremely aggressive.
We understand that gun control has to be destroyed.
One doesn't just fight it and make a career out of fighting it and fighting it year after year.
People have to make the commitment to destroy this cancer and there can be no exceptions to that.
What do you recommend that people do in order to get involved to the point where this might become possible?
Well, we recommend people do First of all, they have to make the decision, the commitment, that they're going to no longer just fight gun control.
It has to be destroyed.
They have to come to accept that.
And two, they have to have the tools to do it.
And the two really is knowledge.
And the knowledge that you can share with other people so they understand that one can no longer just, you know, go along with the politicians and try to just fight gun control and hold the Second Amendment hostage, which sadly hasn't been done for so many years.
And the true big knowledge is some of the knowledge that we put out, what we call intellectual ammunition, to challenge those who support gun control and show them just how dangerously stupid they are.
Now, recently you discovered some machinations and some wrong statements and things by two of the large so-called firearms proponent organizations, and you wrote Well, we're talking about the National Rifle Association and two individuals in particular, Tanya Metaxa and Neil Knox.
we're going to have some more answers.
There's been some more letters since you published.
Well, why don't you talk about that, because I found it extremely interesting.
Well, we're talking about the National Rifle Association, and two individuals in particular, Tanya Metaxa and Neil Knox.
And I think this is a good example of folks who've made a career out of fighting gun control.
They have steadfastly refused to accept our research showing the Nazi roots of America's gun control laws, and also utilizing the research that we've put together on how gun control is the key to genocide.
Let me ask you something, Aaron.
If they are really who they say they are and they are really Pro-gun ownership.
Why would they deny the absolute facts and the proof that's documented and lay right in front of their eyes?
Why do they do that?
Is there any answer to that?
I honestly can't speak for you.
I haven't been able to walk in their markers, so to speak.
They must have been.
They're right, but I will tell you that if gun control were to end tomorrow, There are some people who'd be looking for work.
I mean, there may be a more complex reason, you know.
Well, that's true, but I don't think it's much work.
The one you gave is probably the right one, and it just always hurts me so much to hear that that's the reason.
Very briefly, it's really tragic when I say the Second Amendment is being held hostage.
If you take any cause and you want to make money on it, you politicize it.
And you get the politicians making money off of it, and then you get organizations who are, you know, who are keeping the problem alive, making money off of it.
Oh, sure.
It's just like... And the Second Amendment is being held hostage.
And JPFO is saying, no, this is wrong.
It is evil.
It can no longer be accepted or tolerated.
Yeah.
Well, the same thing applies to racism.
There are leaders of different races who only have a job because racism exists, and so they must somehow promote this conflict and keep it going.
Well, we don't have a great deal of time to develop the issue.
I would say the anti-definition league, the ADL, as far as I'm concerned, the last thing they want to see is an end to anti-Semitism as an example.
Yes, I think you're right, and I think it's also incredibly coincidental that there will be an anti-Semitic incident somewhere where the perpetrators are not caught such as swastik is painted in Jewish cemeteries or on synagogue doors, and it's and I think it's also incredibly coincidental that there will be an anti-Semitic incident somewhere A fundraising letter from the ADL is in the mailbox of everybody in their community.
I'm curious.
Extremely curious.
But let's get back to these letters with the NRA.
What's going on now?
What's the...
Well, you know, we're...
We've been going through these letters with the NRA and we've been getting into the song and dance routine as to why they don't want to use our material, why they don't think it's useful, why it's not timely, why people in Capitol Hill just aren't interested in hearing it, which to me is incredible.
If we've got politicians who don't want to hear how gun control is the key to genocide, isn't anybody at the NRA astute enough to realize we've got a very serious problem on our hands?
That certainly deserves to have a spotlight of truth put on it, but not the NRA.
They're uninterested in doing that.
We have a message from Neil Knox saying that Charlie Schumer would laugh at the information JPFO has put out concerning the Nazi roots of America's gun control laws.
I think there's something wrong with the folks at the NRA when they let Charlie Schumer call the shots.
I think that's an understatement.
You almost threw my brain out of whack with the statement that would even imply that they would.
Do they really do that?
Absolutely.
I'm serious.
We're going to be publishing some of these letters in our upcoming spring issue of the Firearm Sentinel.
Which we publish three to four times a year.
Tanya Metaxa insisted that we reprint all of her letters.
Well, we're going to, along with our response.
So the people see both sides of this.
Well, Senator Malone does.
With your permission, we'll do the same thing.
We printed your last two letters in full size in Veritas and it goes to every representative, every senator, every agency head, every member of the president's cabinet, the president, the vice president, at my expense, every issue.
Hand-delivered by special messengers.
We really have to get the truth out that the NRA certainly has done a lot of good.
I hope they'll do a lot of good in the future, but I think under the present leadership, they're floundering.
Well, that became obvious to me when the voters in California had an opportunity to make the second article and amendment a part of the Constitution of the state of California, to actually pass it into law and make it a part of their Constitution, and the NRA helped defeat that effort.
I think that's incredible.
I think that NRA members, particularly if they live in California, They should be demanding a very clear answer as to why this was done.
Oh yes, they certainly should.
And some people have tried to get answers as to why it was done and the NRA has just beat around the bush.
In California, you have an absolute right under the Constitution to fish, but you don't have that right to keep and bear arms.
And they wanted to make that a part of their Constitution and the NRA became a part of the opposition and helped defeat it.
They've made compromises that they should never have made.
They have opposed legislation in other places, not just in California, that would have ensured the citizens' right to keep and bear arms.
And they say that it's politically expedient because they get concessions elsewhere.
And I don't believe that those are concessions.
I think they're sellouts.
Well, if they consider that a concession, then I think that...
The question has to be raised.
We'd be better off without the NRA.
Something else that I was amazed to discover also in a land in this country where everyone who belongs to the NRA pretends to be against the registration of guns.
For many years, I don't know if you still can today, but for many years you could buy the NRA mailing list for $75 as a copy.
Did you know that?
I started with more money now, but there was an incident, oh I guess perhaps a year ago, I'm not positive, but perhaps 14 months ago, where the NRA was selling the names of people who were no longer members.
Yeah.
That has since stopped, as I understand it.
And I would bet you anything that the BATF was a customer.
Well, I hope they're still.
Don't we think so?
We can take that to the bank.
Yeah.
Aaron, we've only got a couple of minutes left, maybe even less than that.
If you had a chance, and I'm giving you that chance right now, what would be the best words of wisdom that you could impart to me and to all the listeners out there on this subject, or any subject you want as far as that's concerned?
Well, I'll stick to destroying gun control.
I think the American people and all of your listeners have to realize that we've got to get to the kids.
This next generation is our really best hope of turning this country around.
There seems to be a sense of some interest in becoming more conservative.
Maybe the kids have some intuitiveness to it that adults don't have.
They see that liberal socialism doesn't work very well.
And so we've really got to spend our time getting to these kids and helping them any way we can to realize that the big government is not necessarily better and instilling them a history of how this country came about and the things that have been done to make this a great country.
I would hope that folks will find time and make the effort to use some of our Grand Project booklets as a teaching tool.
To get to these kids and get them to realize that you never ever want to tolerate a government that supports gun control or that wants to disarm the citizenry.
I think that's what I'd like to share with people.
Well, Aaron, I certainly thank you for that and I thank you for all the work that you've done and for the organization that you've built and for this wonderful comic book and the other books that you've done.
Mainly for the fact that you care enough to do it and for all the research that you've done that nobody else has done and without it we wouldn't know an awful lot about gun control and the results of it that we do today.
I appreciate your interest in JPFO.
And thank you so much for being our guest tonight.
Sure.
And ladies and gentlemen, we'll see you tomorrow night.
Good night, and God bless each and every single one of you.
If tomorrow all the things were gone, work for all my life.
And I had to start again, with just my children and my wife.
I'd thank my lucky star, to be living here today.
Let the flag still stand for freedom, And I can't take that away.
And I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free.
And I won't forget the men who died, who gave that right to me.
And I gladly stand up next to you, when they take us to the gate.
But there ain't no doubt I love this man.
God bless the U.S.A.
From the lakes of Minnesota to the hills of Tennessee.
Across the plains of Tennessee.
I'm pleased to have anything.
Thank you.
Well, Detroit down to Houston and New York to L.A.
Where there's pride in every American heart and time we stand the same.