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March 30, 1995 - Bill Cooper
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Militias & Patriots Terrorized
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*Piano music* This is a movie theater.
Don't speak to the audience.
This is a theater.
See you.
I'm William Cooper.
You're listening to the Hour of the Time.
I'm William Cooper.
Well, folks, it is absolutely amazing.
thing.
Trachman's at it again.
Thank you.
Oh, my God.
At least I'm going to do it.
Oh, yes, folks, I'm going to read you an article from this issue of Veritas.
The reason I'm going to do it, it will become obvious to you right off the bat.
And then maybe you'll get your heads together.
I'm sorry.
You see, we had reports this afternoon from scared people all over the country that a great army was coming from the state of Washington to attack Montana, and that two congressmen of Montana had resigned and left Washington and were on the way to Montana because of this invasion.
Well, we checked with Washington.
Nobody has resigned.
Nobody.
We were listening as the radio programs went along and the same person kept appearing on different radio programs throughout the afternoon and evening.
The story changed from resigned to, oh, coincidentally they're coming back on the same plane, and that's never happened before, so it must mean we're being invaded.
I got one word for you, John Trachman.
Bullshit!
I want to read to you one of our stories from this issue of Veritas.
And I want everybody out there to pull their head out of the orifice and start thinking correctly.
This is from page nine, I believe.
Militias and Patriots Terrorized in Joint United States and British Psyops Exercise Exclusive to the Kadji News Service.
Confuse and decimate.
Divide and conquer.
The core strategy of kings and generals from the beginning of man's manipulation of humankind right up to the present day.
There are no leaks.
No vacations were canceled.
No leaves were recalled.
Rumors abound.
March brought stories of a planned attack by federal agents and military forces upon Patriot and Militia organizations.
The tales spread like a prairie fire in a brisk wind, fueled by phone trees and reams of fax paper, the gasoline of the Militia of Montana and the Patriot fax network.
Cinders wafted high upon a fool's breeze, searching for tender ears to burn.
Calls bombarded radio talk shows.
Airwaves were rife with speculation and predictions of Armageddon on March the 24th and 25th.
The smoke from these fires was fear.
It hung low to the ground and gathered in pockets, crowding minds and affecting judgment.
It stank.
A craziness reached its zenith, a conflagration, when a respected publication, Strategic Investment, Vol.
10, No.
4, dated March 22, 1995, printed the following two paragraphs in the column behind the line by Jack Wheeler.
The slaughter of dozens of women and children in Waco by government stormtroopers under the command of Field Marshal Reno May pale in comparison to what has been planned for late March, a nationwide BATF-FBI assault on private militias as the prelude to a possible declaration of martial law throughout the United States.
All leaves and vacations have been canceled for BATF-FBI personnel and for various state police and National Guard, such as California's.
The Army's infamous Joint Task Force Six, which did the training for Waco, has been training BATF jackbooters with Bradley assault vehicles at Fort Bliss, Texas.
Government agent provocateurs are set to plant fully automatic and heavy weapons like rocket launchers on the property of militia leaders.
Every militia in the country, and there are dozens, many of which are well-armed and well-led, by former or even active duty officers is on a state of red alert.
Should Reno be stupid enough to actually attack them militarily, there is going to be a lot of blood.
The established media is programmed to immediately thereafter thunderously bellow for nationwide gun confiscation and even martial law.
The Senate Armed Forces Committee has been alerted and is questioning key defense and justice People behind closed doors.
Hopefully, Reno's Waco can be stopped in time, but that it was planned in the first place should be a sobering lesson as to what a horrifying event liberalism, the political philosophy of the administration, and the Democratic Party has been converted into a close cousin of fascism.
The editors of Strategic Investment include Knight Templer, the Right Honorable Lord Rees-Mogg of England's MI6, and Knight Templer, William E. Colby of the Central Intelligence Agency, amongst others.
This publication and several others, Soldier of Fortune comes to mind, has been used several times in the past in this manner.
You could say that Strategic Investment is an asset to the company.
Without the ability to gather and assess this kind of information, the sheeple went berserk and insanity became the rule.
A few of us shoveled reason onto the flames, valiantly trying to put them out.
Reason failed.
If this is the response of patriots and militia to obvious rumor, and it is, what does it tell us about our leadership?
What have we taught the enemy?
What can we expect from the militia if we have to fight?
How will we respond in the future?
As an ex-member of Naval Security and Intelligence, the Office of Naval Intelligence, ONI, the Intelligence Briefing Team, and the Commander-in-Chief of the Pacific Fleet, with the Secondary Naval Enlisted Code of Internal Security Specialist 9545, I can assure you that this was a planned psychological warfare exercise produced by several counterintelligence organizations of the United States government in full cooperation with British intelligence.
You will remember they worked together to accomplish the Waco Massacre.
The primary mission was to create terror in Patriots and their families.
The secondary mission was to monitor the preparedness and response of Patriots and militia to the perceived threat of imminent attack by a superior force.
The only militia which reacted properly was the 2nd Continental Army of the Republic.
This was predictable since it is the only militia with a superior intelligence gathering and analysis capability.
Analysis revealed the source and purpose of the exercise.
The rumors were designed to provoke a readiness response and reveal strategic operational readiness plans of specific militia units.
The Intelligence Service took advantage of this opportunity to assess the response of militia outside the command of the 2nd Continental Army of the Republic and the counterintelligence and psychological warfare capabilities of the enemy.
This analysis was relayed to the command staff, who reviewed the information.
The commanding general ordered the army to stand down and ignore the rumors.
The assessment of the intelligence service and the decision of the command staff was relayed to the listeners of the Hour of the Time.
The flames withered and died, but the embers glowed just beneath the ashes, waiting for a splash of gasoline.
Some bright morning I will enter the office, see a pile of fax paper covering the floor, the large black letters MOM staring up at me.
There will be twenty or thirty messages on the answering machine, and the sheeple will stampede once more, chased by the flames of rumor, fueled by the ringing phones and reams of fax paper, blinded by the smoke of fear.
The End
Oh, yeah.
602-337-2524.
The phone's open, folks.
602-337-2524.
That's 602-337-2524.
Two-four.
Talk about anything you like.
The paper's been put to bed.
It goes to press tomorrow.
Good evening.
You're on the air.
Hello, this is Debra from New Orleans with an update on HCR 13 in Louisiana.
Great, Jeffrey, let's hear it.
Okay, the state of Louisiana legislature is doing the Pennsylvania two-step.
They have adjourned for the weekend after a heavy debate yesterday.
Earth Society members and other groups, libertarians, constitutionalists, etc.
have bombarded the legislature with heavy, heavy lobbying to the point that Pepe Puno and his people were trying to get on the air to try to mollify the opposition, but they failed in Duval and Tavere.
Other parts of the state are really pushing on the legislature, and we're going to have to wait next week until the final results.
Great.
The headline story in this issue of Veritas concerns the council or the conference of the states, and it's really, really going to open a lot of eyes.
Oregon beat it yesterday.
That's correct.
So we're going to keep on seeing what happens in other states, but so far they're really getting a storm on Louisiana.
We'll see what happens next week.
Okay, we've got to hit Indiana now.
Indiana is the hot spot, folks.
If you live in Indiana, you've got to start pounding on your state legislature's desks and on the committee members' desks, and you have to send faxes and phone calls.
And people, tell them what you think, but be polite.
Also on this issue of Veritas, you'll find a clip-out that you'll all want to use in this battle.
It will give you a lot of strength.
Thank you, Jeffrey.
Thank you.
Good night.
602-337-2524 is the number.
That's 602-337-2524.
Good evening.
You're on the air.
Good evening, Bill.
Tom from Indiana.
Hello, Tom.
I had a couple of questions for you.
I've been rereading the protocols in your book.
And there's something in there that didn't sit well with me, and that was that if the protocols were supposedly written in the time around the late 1700s...
It's been written and revised and all kinds of things.
Okay, so the thing that...
It was converted into a play at one time.
The references to Marxism and Darwinism...
Yes.
You know, obviously didn't occur until, what, the 1850s.
That's right.
And so you're saying that it's just part of the revision process.
Oh yes.
It's been revised many times.
The first knowledge of the protocols of Zion, it really should be Sion, S-I-O-N, instead of Zion.
And anybody who reads it who understands the Jewish people and their religion and their culture will see instantly that it was not written by the Jews.
Obviously.
But it has certainly been used to persecute the Jews.
The first instance of any recorded knowledge of any portion of the Protocols was when the Bavarian Illuminati was discovered to be plotting against the monarchs of Europe and was in fact They found complete passages verbatim from what we now know as the Protocols of the Wise Men of Zion.
It really should read the Protocols of the Wise Men of Sion.
It does not have a Jewish origin.
Would you say that it's possible that the writers of that might have also been people known as the Sons of Cain?
Oh, absolutely.
You see, one of the things that really will strike you when you get into this is that the main battle seems to be a religious one between those who believe in the salvation by works.
The other ones are the salvation by faith.
In other words, between water and fire.
One of the goals of the secret societies that they have professed is to pour or cast what they call the molten sea.
Which is the mixture of the two into a homogeneous substance where they will be able to live together compatibly and Lucifer will then be the king.
Well, not only the king, there will be a reconciliation between Lucifer and Yahweh.
Now, folks, I'm explaining something to you.
It doesn't mean you have to believe it.
It doesn't mean I believe it.
It's just what I've learned.
You know me, I don't like to preach religion to anyone.
I believe, and I'll tell you why, because a lot of people ask me, well, if you're a Christian, how come you don't spread the word?
Well, I think God gave us all a free will choice for a reason.
And if you force someone to say that they believe something, because that's really what you're doing when you force someone.
You see, they really don't believe it.
They'll say they believe it to get you off their back, or to get special favors, or to get you to quit beating them.
If you make them say they believe it and they really don't then you haven't done anything except cast a shadow on your own soul.
So it has to be a free will choice.
People either have to accept whatever religion they accept or reject it and they have to answer for that to whatever God there is.
I happen to have my own personal beliefs about that and many of you know what they are.
My last question is what was the name of that song you just played at the 15 minute mark?
Oh, that was Watermark.
Okay, who's that by?
Enya.
Okay.
I liked it.
I don't know what kind of music this was.
Nobody called today and left a message or anything, but do you know what kind it is?
My brother has one of Enya's CDs, but I haven't listened to it.
I'm not that familiar with Enya.
Well, you know, a lot of people out there ask if you know what this is.
Do you know what this is?
and a lot of them claim that this is the superior music because it comes from the superior race.
This is Celtic music from the Celts.
So I thought everybody would find that interesting and I like to you know I have an eclectic taste for music and like to play all of this stuff.
But anyway back to the original subject.
The people who are really practice the lies and the deception and the manipulation claim that they are Christians.
If you were to ask them, they would say that they are Christians.
Or if you were to challenge them that they're practicing the occult or that they worship Lucifer, they would point to their Bible on the altar and they would say, we're really Christians.
And it's a lie.
They're really not Christians.
But it wouldn't matter if they would be open with it.
I believe everybody should have a free will choice, and that that is a personal thing between them and God.
And they have to answer for whatever wrong choice they may make.
Maybe we made the wrong choice.
Nobody really knows until they're gone, until you die and you find out, see?
That's right.
So that's why religion is based upon faith, and people spend their whole life trying to justify their faith, and that's where theology and dogma comes in.
That's the result of this lifetime endeavor to justify whatever faith they believe in.
But these people, they claim outwardly that they are the sons of Adam and that they believe in Christ and that they are Christians.
The truth is, in secret, they openly admit that they are the sons of Cain and that their God is Lucifer.
Yeah.
Well, I have never talked to any of them, but reading the protocols and having read the Bible somewhat, it became obvious to me that that's who was probably doing the writing in those protocols there.
Yes, and it would surprise you to find out that it has more of a Christian-based origin than anything else.
The thing that was really a tip-off to me was the fact that they do not imbibe alcohol.
Yes.
And if you look at the 35th chapter of Jeremiah, I don't want to turn it into a Bible study, but there's also reference to that in the Bible.
Right.
That's correct.
And folks, you'll find that Jews do imbibe in alcohol.
It's a part of their ceremonial dinners on their holidays and all kinds of stuff.
Remember, our enemies practice deceit.
And it's a dreadful deceit.
And even the elect shall be swallowed up in this.
If it were possible.
Yes.
Alright, well it's been a pleasure talking to you Bill.
Thank you for calling.
And folks, regardless of what I may say religious-wise in here, I'm responding to the questions of the callers.
I'm not in any way trying to preach to you or tell you what to believe.
I think that we've all seen what that leads to.
Just take a look at the history of the Dark Ages.
Good evening.
You're on the air.
Hi.
Hi.
This is Tim in California.
Hi, Tim.
Hey, what's going on with the OJ symptom trial?
I don't know.
Why is everybody but O.J.
on trial?
Why is what?
Why is everybody but O.J.
on trial?
I don't understand what you mean.
I'm not kidding.
I'm not trying to throw a curveball.
I don't watch it.
Well, all I gotta say is that everybody that takes the witness stand is on trial.
You know, their credibility, their... That's that way in any trial.
Yes.
Whoever the opposition is has to discredit the witness in order to get the jury to believe whatever their side is, whether it's the prosecution or the defense.
It doesn't make any difference.
That's the part of the adversarial system which, by the way, is all screwed up.
Yes.
Why is everybody having to put up with that?
I mean, this is a trial.
Everybody doesn't have to put up with it.
The truth is everybody loves it if they wouldn't be watching it eight hours a day.
Well, you know, that's a big misconception because the trial is now on national television.
This is supposed to be some type of a trial that everybody in America is supposed to be watching to see... I got news for you.
An awful lot of Americans are watching it.
Exactly.
But not for the reasons that you think.
They're watching it because it's the greatest soap opera they ever saw.
They don't give a damn about justice.
Well, people in America think that is justice.
That's what they're seeing on American TV right now.
You're exactly right.
And that's not the way it should be.
200 years ago... You're right about that, too.
200 years ago, our forefathers wrote a constitution... What?
Did you say forefathers?
You're out of here, bud!
Hey, did you know if you were going to the university that Donna Shalala was president of that you would have been suspended for just saying the word forefathers?
No, you can say it all you want on this show.
It's food for my ears.
I love it.
Well, isn't that crazy?
Yes, it is.
Everything is crazy today.
Everything's turned upside down and backwards.
Yeah?
Wrong is right and right is wrong.
Yeah.
Well, I think it's wrong that the American people out there watching the trial on television are distracted from the fact.
That's exactly what it's designed to do.
No, who designed it?
It doesn't matter who designed it.
That's exactly why it's happening.
Well, you said it's designed.
Well, who designed it?
How long have you been listening to this broadcast?
Well, you know, it's time that things... Wait a minute, wait a minute.
You didn't answer my question.
How long have you been listening to this broadcast?
Well, probably only about two weeks now.
Oh, that's why.
You see, we've covered that over and over and over and over again, and I'm not trying to insult you or make you feel bad, but I cannot Teach the basics to the new listeners every night.
What's happening in this country is being brought about by a brotherhood.
A brotherhood of adepts who practice an occult religion that goes all the way back to the ancient city Babylon and has nothing to do with what you believe about God or religion or anything else.
If they believe it, it will affect you.
And that's what you have to understand.
And it's not a conspiracy.
Nothing is hidden.
It's all out in the open, but you've got to dig for it.
Yeah, and that's a bad truth.
Yep.
Bad truth.
Hey, that's my two cents, okay?
Okay, thank you for your two cents.
Have a good night.
I hope I gave you two cents back in change.
602-337-2524.
Good evening.
You're on the air.
Bill.
Yes.
Tom Russell.
Yes, sir.
How are you doing?
Good evening.
You're on the air.
Bill.
Yes.
I'm Russell.
Yes, I'm in North Carolina.
How are you doing?
I'm doing good.
Brenna Roberts gave you a plug on his show the other night, by the way.
Who?
Brenna Roberts on Full Disclosure Live.
He broadcasts at 8 o'clock on WWCR on Sunday nights.
And anyway, can you tell me about the John Birch Society?
The John Birch Society was founded by one Robert Welsh, who was a Freemason, which is very difficult to dig out, but we dug it out.
The John Birch Society keeps everybody stirred up and spinning around chasing their tail.
However, if you attempt any action whatsoever, you will be slapped down hard by the John Birch Society.
People like me and Linda Thompson and others who are active in trying to change things other than through the voting system are constantly attacked by the John Birch Society.
Their philosophy is that all could be solved through the vote.
Yes, that's what I've come to conclude from speaking with them.
I don't know how you dug this out, and I'd be interested to find out.
I've talked to the Scottish Rite of Northern Jurisdiction, Southern Jurisdiction, the York Rite of Freemasonry, and the Grand Lodge of North Carolina, and I can find no record of a Robert Henry Wimborne Welch ever having done a mason.
Oh, they don't want you to know it, but you can dig it out if you dig hard enough.
Unfortunately, I don't have the time to.
To do it again for you.
Can you give me a starting point?
No, you're just going to have to go out and dig.
And you also have to remember.
Listen to me carefully.
Yes.
You have to remember that it's not just the name Freemason.
All of these occult secret societies that call themselves Brotherhoods or fraternal organizations are the same at the top, even though at the bottom they appear to oppose each other.
And there are many, many of them.
They go by many different names and many different occupations, and at times they appear to oppose each other, when actually in reality they are of the same mind.
They practice the Hegelian dialectic of political conflict resolution, and they are all Freemasons.
No, that I don't know.
Okay, because I cannot find anything reverencing him.
You weren't listening to me, were you?
Yes, I was, but what I found out was he was in the candy manufacturing business until 1958 when he founded the John Birch Society because he believed that Bavarian Illuminati had infiltrated a certain part of Freemasonry.
But I never could find any attachment You weren't listening to me.
You're still not listening.
I don't understand what you're saying.
I know you don't, but I haven't got time to teach you tonight, so you go and figure it out, okay?
Okay.
Good night.
Thank you.
This broadcast has done many, many hours, ladies and gentlemen, many, many hours on the subject.
And I cannot repeat it every night.
We have the tapes for sale.
If you'll send in a self-addressed stamped number 10 size envelope and $1, we'll send you a tape list and a whole bunch of other information.
And you can pick out the tapes of the subjects that you like or that you need to know if you're starting from square one.
and I'm not sure what I'm doing.
You're on the air.
Yes, Bill.
I'm Vic McGee with the Constitution Party in South Carolina.
series is the best ever done in history on the subject.
And there are a few mistakes in there, but not many.
I guarantee you, if you can find a body of work that extensive anywhere else, I'll give you a set free.
Good evening.
You're on the air.
Yes, Bill.
Yes.
I'm Vic McGee with the Constitution Party in South Carolina.
All right, Vic.
And I've got a good question for you, Bill.
Sure.
Are you going to run for political office with the Constitution Party?
Never, ever.
Never, ever, ever, or never, never?
Never, ever.
I am a messenger.
My job is to educate and deliver a message.
That's where my skills are.
That's where I am at my best.
That is what is needed probably more than anything else in this country.
Your listeners are knowing to North and South Carolina that we're going to be having that meeting in Rock Hill, South Carolina, and the North Carolina state organizer, and the North Carolina state organizer, and I'll be there also.
Both states can come to it in Rock Hill, South Carolina on April 1st.
They can call my home phone number 803-684-3155.
Say the phone number again slowly.
803-684-3155.
That's not slowly.
Do it once more.
I'm sorry.
803-684-3155.
Okay.
Thank you very much.
All right.
Thank you.
There was another famous person who founded a religion in this country who was also a Freemason, and that organization has taken great pains to hide it.
But if you study the beginnings of the organization, if you read the speeches that this man gave, if you go and look at the memorial that was made to him near the site where he was buried, you'll see that he was also a Freemason.
And the organization is Jehovah's Witnesses, and the man's name is Russell.
Good evening, you're on the air.
I've got an interesting statistic for you.
I went into Barnes & Noble the other day with a friend of mine.
I had ordered your book, and he couldn't wait for me to get it, so he wanted to see if Barnes & Noble carried it.
So we walked in, and we went to look for your book, and we went to the section that they supposedly kept it out.
We couldn't find it.
So we asked the guy where it was.
New Age.
No, we asked the guy where it was.
He went and got it for us.
And we said, why don't you have the book?
I mean, why don't you have it out?
He said, well, this is the most stolen book that we carry.
I couldn't believe it.
That's why I figured I wanted to call you and let you know that.
The most stolen book, huh?
That's the most shoplifted book from Barnes & Noble.
I couldn't believe it.
I also picked up those books that you had recommended last week on the other Freemason books, Knight's Temple and all that really good stuff.
Yeah, it is.
Oh my God.
You've really, really got to dig through that stuff.
What I like about it is that some of it, they talk about it from the perspective of the Masons and of the secret societies.
Not all of it is written against it.
So, you know, you kind of see the handwriting on the wall.
Yeah.
You have to remember that after Robinson wrote Born in Blood, he was inducted into Freemasonry and now speaks on their behalf and doesn't expose them anymore.
Did you mention that?
That's pretty amazing, actually.
Oh, it's not amazing at all, you see.
They gain a lot of their converts when you try to deal with the public and find out that they're right about most of the public being sheeps or cattle.
No.
Not literally, but figuratively.
Once you're dealing with the public and you find that out, you're fair game to be recruited by the enemy because you don't want to be on the losing team.
I've been approached many times by them.
I've got to tell you the truth.
Many times I was sorely tempted.
All I've got to do is look at my family or my daughter or somebody that I really love and it brings me right back.
Well, it's always very seductive.
Like you said, everybody loves a mystery, but it's not just a mystery.
The problem is that there are so many people that are preoccupied with owning and controlling power over other people, not just personal powers in their own lives.
That's right.
If you're one of them, they make sure that your life is easy and that you are rewarded.
If you have talent, you go right straight to the top.
There's one thing that the Masons forget, though.
Historically, the people that put Hitler into power, for example, Hitler turned right against them as soon as he had power.
So did Stalin.
You know why?
Yeah, because they put him in power.
They know how he got there, and they have all the juice on them.
They knew how they got there.
They understood the Hegelian dialectic.
They know synthesis, thesis, antithesis, and synthesis.
And so once they got there, they turned around and got rid of the people who put them there because they didn't want to be threatened by the same organization.
The same thing happens with socialism.
When socialism comes to power, the first people they get rid of are the people who put them there, and they're usually the intelligentsia, the university professors, the people who can think and write and do great things with their mind, are the first ones to go.
And unfortunately, they haven't realized how to use their mind enough to read history and figure that out yet.
All these university professors that are help bringing Marxism and Socialism into America will be the first ones that the Marxist Socialists destroy once they come to power, because they know that those people, the intelligentsia, will be the first ones to figure out that it's all a scam when they see it in action.
Absolutely.
I've got another question for you.
I'm also doing some research into the ADL.
I ordered the book, The Ugly Truth, about the ADL.
I'm hitting a brick wall, and I'll tell you why.
The material that I'm coming across... You know how you say not to believe you, and I agree with that 100%, but I have the tapes.
I taped your series on the ADL.
The only thing is, I'm hitting a brick wall as far as referencing it.
A friend of mine is Jewish, and he gets very offended when I even talk about the ADL.
Whatever they do.
That's because he's a victim.
Victims like to be victims.
They don't like anything that threatens them.
Agreed.
I can't come up with any proof though.
In other words, I know what you're saying and I've heard the stories of them painting swastikas on Jewish graves to try and foment racial tension and all that.
See, he's got all kinds of books that link the A's with all kinds of benevolent, good chords.
Oh yeah, that's like Freemasons.
The first thing that happens when you try to expose them is they point to the Shriner's Hospitals for Children and say, see, we're not bad guys.
Exactly.
But that stuff I could link up.
I have all the literature.
Most of this stuff is very well documented.
But unfortunately, what I've been able to... maybe you can point me in the right direction.
Yeah, I sure can.
Go to Dope Incorporated.
Go to The Ugly Truth about the ADL.
All your leads are in there.
All you have to do is follow them up.
If you're having trouble, go to the Executive Intelligence Review, which is one of the best research organizations in the world.
Forget about their politics.
Well, I agree.
And they will help you also.
And how do I get in touch with you?
Once I get my book... The address is right in there.
Listen, you are doing a fantastic job and I really enjoy listening to your program.
I actually videotape the audio on your program because I don't have enough cassette tapes to put the information on.
Okay, when you play it back will you call me and tell me what you see?
It's a joke!
It's a joke!
No, I'm just kidding.
Listen man, seriously, keep doing what you're doing and keep the faith and if you're ever in New York City, look me up.
I gave my address and my phone number to one of the people in your offices.
And if you ever need anything, if you ever need any kind of information out of the city that maybe only can be gotten from the city, I don't know, or you need a place to stay forever down here.
Can you send me some sleep?
That's what I really need.
Send me some sleep.
Sorry, I can't help you with that.
Well, I'm going to get it tomorrow.
We'll all be...
Well, you don't want your newspaper for this issue, right?
I've got to start on the next issue.
Oh, come on.
You said you were going fishing yesterday.
I am going fishing.
Well, okay.
So go fishing, relax.
Tomorrow I'm going to sleep where the boys take the paper to Gallup to get it printed, and I'm going to sleep.
And you know I don't want to tell you to not forget about your wife and kids.
You've got to spend some time with them.
Yes, that's right.
By the way, I saw a picture of your family in your book and you have a beautiful family.
Thank you very much.
Alright, thanks a lot and I'll talk to you soon.
Thank you for calling.
I love those kind of calls.
I mean, that was a pleasant conversation.
Even if he had been critical, he was a pleasant guy.
It doesn't matter what you say when you're pleasant.
I don't understand why people can't do that.
Good evening.
You're on the air.
Good evening, Bill.
Hey, we are happier and clams to see your book on the shelves at Login Books in Pennsylvania.
You're kidding.
Unbelievably so.
Yes, as a matter of fact, a friend of mine in the military found it and said, you know, this is the stuff you're always talking about.
And I said, wait a minute, what book is it?
And he said, behold, a pair of horses.
And I said, wait a minute, Coopers?
And he said, sure.
So I wasn't able to get away at the time, so he ran in and got another copy.
Well, I'm flabbergasted.
You know, when that book was first printed, everybody called me a nut, some kind of a CIA saboteur, a liar, a conspiracy wacko theorist and all this kind of stuff.
And nobody would touch my book with a 10-foot pole.
And now I'm hearing that it's the most stolen book from Barnes & Noble.
I heard that, too.
That's interesting.
I love the book.
I'm about a third of the way through, and I'm going to tell you what, it's an eye-opener.
Every page.
Well, what saved the book and what saved me was everything that I wrote about in there that nobody believed could ever happen happened.
Absolutely.
That's another scary thought.
And there's a lot I said would happen that hasn't happened yet.
One other matter.
There was a newspaper article in the Harrisburg Patriot regarding the rally at the state capitol on... Yeah, they think it was for Monday.
And when we found out that they adjourned the legislature, we changed it to the following Wednesday.
So the stupid reporter showed up on Monday and then wrote an article saying that I was a wacko conspiracy theorist nut.
And since nobody showed up, so much for shortwave talk radio.
Right.
Well, you know, we kind of tracked that down a little bit.
She's normally the police reporter.
Don't let her bullshit you.
She's a wacko socialist.
She wrote that article from her head intentionally to discredit everything.
She did no research.
Nothing.
She claims that someone gave her about a five minute segment of a tape of yours.
Oh, I can show you five minutes of anybody talking and make you think they're crazy.
In fact, I can take five minutes of you talking without your knowledge and make everybody think that you're nuts.
Oh, sure.
What I was trying to say is that we up here think that that tape and that story was either planned ADL-wise or else it came from someone within the police department.
Well, I don't know where it came from, but it definitely has the ADL slant to it.
Absolutely.
There is no doubt about that, that there was somebody who works for the ADL involved in that.
What you should do, all of you in that area, is as soon as you get your copy of Veritas, take it in there and say, you know something?
You have the audacity to call yourself the Patriot Newspaper?
This is a real newspaper.
Absolutely.
You've got nothing but trash.
And give them a copy.
Absolutely.
I am in love with your book and I'm using it to dispute the naysayers right and left.
I'm just glad you wrote it.
It was definitely a surprise to see it and see all the things that you've been talking about, or at least a good portion of them, come to life right on the pages.
You have the sources there so that I can go out and look it up and even pull copies of the documents that you use.
It's very hard for somebody to refuse your argument when you have that kind of material there.
Yeah, that's true.
Well, keep up the good work.
Does there going to be a sequel?
I'm working on two books.
When they're done, I'll let you know.
Super deal.
I look forward to it.
Good luck to you.
No, I've been snitching it from a friend, so that means I've got to subscribe.
You've got to support us, man.
You got it.
If we don't get enough subscribers, it ain't going to last long, because we're sending out thousands of copies to people who don't pay, who we know have to see it.
I agree.
Oh, you've got another one here, so I'll be calling your offices in the morning.
Thank you.
Thank you, Bill, and good night to you.
Good night.
602-337-2524 is the number.
Boy, this is a nice pleasant evening for conversation.
Good evening.
You're on the air.
Good evening.
Can you tell me what number of the Veritas that you just put to bed?
Is that the third or the second issue?
Second.
Okay, good.
I was worried.
I got the first issue and I've been wondering or afraid I'd miss the second.
Oh, no.
If you got the first one, you know you're going to get the second one.
Well... The only ones who will have a cutoff are CAGI members who will run out after number four who are getting it simply because they're CAGI members.
No, my concern is with the post office's ability to mangle and mutilate.
Oh, I understand that.
Well, thank you very much, sir.
You're welcome.
We've been very lucky so far, folks.
We haven't lost anything through the post office so far that we can tell.
We've had some people who didn't get theirs because of mistakes we made, and we rectify it, and we got it out to them, and that's no problem.
If you sent your money in late or something like that, don't call me and say, Well, you didn't get mine.
You didn't get yours because you sat on the fence waiting to see what it was going to be like before you sent your money in, and there weren't any left.
At first, printing.
It went to the last copy, folks.
I've never seen anything like that before in my life.
I mean, usually, no matter what you print, you have some left over.
We didn't have anything left over.
Good evening.
You're on the air.
Yeah, Bill.
In regards to a corner that you had a while ago where he was doubting Robert Welch being a Freemason, let me tell you what happened.
Back in 1980, I was living up in Cheyenne, Wyoming, and a friend and I, Charlie O'Brien, wrote Robert Welch.
And I told Welch at the time, who was of course still alive in 1980, I said, you know, you've done a great job over the years of exposing the Trilateral Commission and the Council on Foreign Relations, but why haven't you... Now, by the way, I am an ex-Mason.
I got into and out of Freemasonry in 1980 when I saw what was going on.
But I said to Welch, I said, why is it you haven't exposed the working class arm of the conspiracy, which is Freemasonry?
So he had his assistant, Gary Handy, write me back a letter making all kinds of apologies for the Masons and saying, oh no, they're definitely anti-communist and this and that.
So then Charlie and I turned around and sent him a Xerox copy from Mackey's Revised Encyclopedia of Freemasonry, dated 1929, where under I for Illuminati and under W for Weishaupt, they told you what a wonderful guy Adam Weishaupt was, And what a wonderful organization the Illuminati was, that it was designed, you know, to combat moral evil and all this other garbage.
And I asked Welch and Gary Handy to explain to me how can you tell the whole world how Weishaupt and the Illuminati were basically the foundation of modern-day communism from May of 1776, and then on the other hand make excuses for the Masons who try to tell us what wonderful people Weishaupt and Baron von Knieg were, and what a wonderful group the Illuminati was, well, he never could or never would answer the question.
So I would think you might say in a de facto way that Robert Welch answered to me back in 1980 the fact that he was at least an apologist, if not an outright mason.
Of course.
And that's why the John Burke Society doesn't expose any of that now.
And I was in the Birch Society also for a few years before I woke up to the fact that although they have a lot of great educational materials, a lot of great books and things like that, you know, to really get you up to speed on a lot of things, what they seem to do at the meetings, the only thing they seem to do at the meetings is have letter writing campaigns like, that's going to solve our problems.
You know, write a letter to your congressman, write a letter to your senator, and meanwhile this guy is pitching them in Final 13.
The reason for all that is it makes the people who could do something think that they are.
Well, also, I think what it's doing, whether most people realize it or not, is getting a lot of good patriotic names on a centralized list and making that list available to whoever, whenever the Night of the Long Knives occurs in this country, as it did in Nazi Germany in 1934.
Don't ever worry about that.
There's only one list, and if you're not one of them, you're one of us, and that means you're on it.
Well, I'm on the list, I guess, so, you know, who cares?
But I think it's nice for people to know exactly where Robert Welch came from.
And, of course, Joseph Smith was also, you were mentioning that Jehovah's Witnesses were Masonically inspired, and so was Joseph Smith, and so was his successor, Brigham Young.
Smith had been a Mason for years whenever he was asked to start forming Masonic lodges there, you know, to get in with the Mormon Church.
No, wait a minute.
That's not quite true.
Joseph Smith was not a Mason before he founded the Mormon Church.
His brother was.
He became a Mason later.
Are you sure about that?
Because it seems like in the Book of Mormon, he's got a lot of phrases in there that are Masonic.
I mean, a lot of so-called inspiration is very, very definitely Masonic.
That's true.
But there's enough wrong without making things up.
He was not a Freemason himself, or at least we cannot find any record of it.
Until much later.
His brother, however, was a Freemason before and during the time that Joseph Smith supposedly met the angel in the woods and found these tablets.
Yeah, well, you know, because one of the references there under Christ in the Book of Mormon, Smith has a liking referring to Christ, basically comparing Him to the serpent, and of course the serpent is Satan, not Jesus.
But look in the Book of Mormon, you can find some pretty weird things there.
I have, but you have to understand what I'm about.
I'm not about tearing down somebody else's religion.
I don't care what anybody else believes.
I only get involved when they're trying to either force their belief onto me or other people and we don't want it, or they're trying to manipulate us or change our form of government or take our liberties away from us.
If they're not bothering us in any way like that, then I don't really care what they worship or how they worship or anything else.
And we've explored the Mormon angle on here and specific relationships of Bo Greitz running around the country lying about his religion and telling people he was a Christian and getting in with Christian identity groups when the reality was he was a Mormon.
There was nothing wrong with him being a Mormon if he had been honest about it and told people.
But he didn't.
He lied about it.
He is always in short supply these days.
Besides that I know an awful lot of good people who belong to all these different religions who are not trying to hurt anybody and just trying to live like me and you and everybody else and have a good life.
They are leaders that are doing all this crap.
No matter what it is.
You know, my basic philosophy is, no matter what the religious beliefs are, is basically I try to avoid any religion that allows its members to become members of the Masonic Temple.
Because having been in that organization and knowing what an evil organization it is, you know, when they ask you things like, are you a royal archmason?
I think that's 26th degree.
Are you a royal archmason?
And the guy answers, I am that I am.
Which is a blasphemy.
Uh, and then in the, uh, Rose-Coy degree, you know, he confirms the order by order in the heels of deck, uh, like he, you know, he's God, uh, confirming Jesus.
And, uh, then, of course, in the Entered Apprentice degree, which everyone has to go through the first degree, what was then told you, that my throat will be cut from ear to ear, my tongue torn from its roots, my body buried a cable-toe's length from shore with a tight ebbs and flows twice in 24 hours.
Should I ever attempt to reveal any of the secrets of Freemasonry, unlawfully to anyone, so help me God and keep me steadfast?
If that isn't a pagan ritual, I don't know what is.
Well, of course it is.
Well, if you go back far enough, with every religion there is, you'll find paganism somewhere in it, and that includes the Christian religion, specifically after the Council of Nicea in 300-something A.D., when Constantine merged the Sun worshipers with the Christian Church.
But, anyway... And, of course, you know, the best exposé I think I've ever seen on the About Freemasonry was an Ed Bradley report on 60 minutes years ago when they showed about the kidnapping and murder of Roberto Calvi, who had embezzled $3.2 million from his bank, Banco Ambrosiano in Milan, Italy, for the Masonic P2 Lodge.
And when he was out on bail, he mysteriously disappeared from Milan, and when he popped up again, he had called his wife from London.
They found him hanging from Blackfriars Bridge?
Yeah, well, the night before they found him hanging, He called his wife and said, you know, well, I'm having some difficulties, but I think it's going to be all right.
You know, I'm going to be able to get out of this thing and this and that.
Don't worry.
I should be home soon.
And the next morning they found him hanging from the Blackfriars Bridge where the tide went up to his knees twice in 24 hours.
It was a ritualistic Masonic execution simply because he had become an embarrassment to the Order.
Right.
You're absolutely correct.
So Bill, have a good one.
Thank you very much.
Thank you, sir.
And good night.
602-337-2524.
Well, that's a man who's done his research.
That's for sure.
Not many people recognize the hanging of Calvi from the Blackfriars Bridge as a Masonic execution.
And, of course, you wouldn't unless you had studied it.
But all of you who haven't, go back and look at the way that he was hanged, and you'll see.
Good evening.
You're on the air.
Say, I was just down in your neck of the woods there a couple weeks ago, passing on Interstate 44 going west.
You were talking last night about the Waco raid.
I think that really shows a weakness in the Patriot movement that should be looked at.
And that is that they're prepared for the confrontation.
I think they tried to propose both psychologically and everything else, but they didn't have any tactics.
Well, that's because they were millennium in their thinking.
In other words, they were thinking that they had to die because that's what the book of Revelations predicted.
Then why did they arm themselves?
In other words, they were just waiting to die.
Well, that's a normal human reaction.
If you read everything that they say, if you look at the tape that we have here, if you listen to how they talk, it's very clear that they did not expect to ever leave that place.
Very clear.
I would have thought that on the first day during the attack, that had Koresh pushed out any flank, left or right, at an angle... If Koresh had shown, and this is my opinion, I believe that if Koresh had known
Any basic military tactics, and specifically the philosophy that no defense can be justified in the face of a constant attack, that all defenses can be overcome.
And if he had mounted some kind of attack, there would have been terrible casualties on the federal side.
Oh yeah, it was obvious.
And that's kind of what I've been looking at.
I hear a lot of people talking, not necessarily you, I know people, and they're talking about getting their military stuff together and they're talking to themselves and they're ready to do it, but I think they're very short on tactics.
Well, they may be and that's something they have to deal with.
We're certainly not.
Well, I would certainly hope that you guys have looked back in your military history and are starting to look at things like small unit operations during the Well, I can't tell you what we're prepared to do or what our tactics are, but I can tell you that we are not only prepared supply-wise, but we are prepared in every other way.
I'm glad to hear that.
May I make a suggestion?
And that is to look into things like, in general, Sherman's rate through Georgia.
And some of the resistance he met, how he dealt with that, because it's also, I think, very important for people to know what type of resistance they're going to come up against.
You know, just what will the government do?
Will the government just ignore Northeastern Arizona, basically?
You know, just cut you off.
You know, that's what Castro does.
But he used to have rebels.
Well, you have to understand that you're talking to two things here.
You're talking to the militia of Arizona.
I belong to the Second Continental Army of the Republic.
No, it's not the same.
It's not the same thing, believe me.
Well, they're two different organizations, but how they're going to treat you guys will be all about the same.
No, I don't think that it'll be about the same.
I don't think that there's going to be... I don't think that anybody's prepared for what the 2nd Continental Army of the Republic is prepared to do and can do, and for the... I don't think that they have any conception of the brains that are on our command staff.
But anyway, that's all I could talk about with you, and we're out of time.
Thank you for calling.
Good night, folks.
Sorry we've got to end now because I'd love to stay and talk to all of the good people that have called tonight and the ones who are probably trying to dial in.
And God bless you all. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen.
Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen.
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