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May 13, 1994 - Bill Cooper
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Home Schooling with Doreen #1
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White power, white power, this is our ultimate power. White power.
I'm going to go through the door and see.
I'm going to go through the door and see.
Welcome to the Hour of the Time. I'm Carolyn Nelson and this is the Wake Up Call to the
Women of America. Today is Friday, May 13, 1994.
As we reclaim living in the freedom of those who came before us in freedom as stated in the law of our land, the Constitution of the United States of America under God, we must keep our children at home for homeschooling.
We must keep our children near so that all move together as a family in thought and action through the long hours ahead, the years Even possibly generations.
War has been declared on us, our children, and our land.
It is up to us to determine how much longer the flag of red, white, and blue flies over our 50 united sovereign states.
The enemy would like it very much if you would take our American flag of 50 sovereign states, fold it neatly, and store it in a trunk in the attic, or better yet, bury it in the soil, or Burn it!
Our voluntary removal of the flag of sovereign states would tell them, our enemy, that we accept the slavery they are imposing on us daily.
Today, and on this coming Memorial Day, Tuesday, May 30, 1994, may your decision, women, mothers, grandmothers, and great-grandmothers, Today, for America under God, fly our flag of freedom now.
Do this even today, tonight, wherever you are.
Keep our flag flying at full mast, every day, symbolic of the presence of an American.
We do not want a new flag, or a new constitution, or even a new money.
With us today is one of our moms, a mother, Doreen, who, with her husband Dan, As in 1994, we turned to the homeschooling style of early America.
May her story and your columns tonight with information and questions over the next few Fridays also touch all of your hearts.
Welcome, Doreen, to the hour.
Thank you, Carolyn.
Everything pretty much started out for us last year.
We happened to be driving down the road and we saw a billboard that said, Man's law or God's law, which will you obey?
Well, that one really got us thinking about it.
And it wasn't too long after that, our son, who's thirteen, started having problems in junior high.
It was his first year and his second semester, and he had always been on a roll for the past five years and never had any problem in school before he got into the seventh grade.
His attitude changed, his grades dropped, and we were pretty disappointed and didn't really know what to do.
We tried different things, trying to work with his school and trying to work with the principal, and their suggestion was, oh, fill out this form and tell us more about what's going on in your home and your private life, and we'd like your son to be in group counseling.
Well, that was pretty much the last straw.
And we decided that we were going to start homeschooling.
We started checking into it, and I would encourage all of our listeners to get your pen and paper ready so that you can jot down some of the names of the organizations I'm going to give you and their phone numbers.
Now, it wasn't too long after we started homeschooling, we went over to our good friend Tim's at Surplus and stuff, and he told us, you guys have got to get a shortwave radio and listen to The Hour of the Time with William Cooper.
Well, let me tell you, that's when our education really began, and we have been listening ever since, our whole family, and it's really been an eye-opener.
There are several different steps that you need to take if you're going to homeschool.
The first one is you need to be committed to that, and the second step you have to do is to find out your state law.
Every state has different laws, and so you need to get a copy of your state law.
In Arizona, the second step is to file an affidavit of intent with your county supervisor, and then after you do that, then your child has to be tested every three years, either by an academic evaluation test, a private test, or a state test, and the latter one is free.
There are different directions that you can go in for homeschooling.
There's a lot of information out there for people that are looking at families in the
state of Arizona can write to Arizona families for home education.
That's a F.H.E.
P.O.
Box four six six one Scottsdale Arizona eight five two six one four six six one and they
have a toll free number it's one eight hundred nine two nine three nine two seven one eight
hundred nine two nine three nine two seven.
You can also get a free information pack from the Homeschooling Legal Defense Association and these people are very helpful.
They'll send you a copy of your state law and also a list of homeschooling organizations around the United States.
Their phone number is 703-338-5600.
703-338-5600.
And please get a hold of them.
They're there to help.
One of the magazines that we got into and Home Schooling Legal Defense Association sent
us a flyer on that.
It's a teaching home magazine.
I find this a very valuable resource of information and tips.
It has teaching tips, how to schedule your time, how to get organized, how to do field
trips, science projects, associations, conventions, all kinds of information.
And you can get a year's subscription for $15 and I'll give you their phone number.
It's 503-253-9633.
five oh three two five three nine six three three five oh three two five three nine six
three three. Now under the Constitution under the 14th Amendment which is the right to liberty
and privacy you have the right to educate your child at home.
The First Amendment also gives you the free exercise of religion.
And so, you guys, you need to fight for it, you need to use it, and don't let it go.
Don't lose it.
There's a lot of information you can get through your library.
You can also get a copy of your state constitution at your library.
Just go there and do your homework.
Any of you that have read Bill's book, Behold a Pale Horse, know that preschool and public school by our government has created an artificial womb and artificial parents.
Kids are often taken from their parents voluntarily at age three in preschool, and the school raises them and teaches your children their values.
They end up spending oftentimes more time at school than they are spending with their parents, and you need to get a handle on that.
You need to find out what it is that they're being taught, and you have to be very careful.
There's a lot of different teachings out there right now that we ran into.
Some of the things that we found out that was being taught in Nathan's school was leaning towards the occult, and it was definitely designed to subvert any kind of religious teaching that you were teaching at home.
That was the other straw that broke the camel's back.
You need to teach your children about survival.
Over at Surplus and Stuff they have several good books.
Our son's in junior high school level and we had him tested and he ended up testing at second semester 11th grade level and a 12th grade level which we're very pleased about.
We've been homeschooling him since January and that's also about the time we started lifting to Hour of the Time.
Some of the supplemental reading that we do is Behold a Pale Horse by William Cooper.
And after looking through vultures and eagles' clothing, that's going to be his next required
reading.
I think that would be good for all of us.
Also, all of the documents that we have in, we work at home, so sometimes we don't always
have the time to spend to read them.
So Nathan will sit down and read them to us, and he'll get the dictionary out and go over
everything.
It's been a big help.
There's a lot of curriculum out there that you can use.
You can design your own if you'd like.
There's a lot of good Christian curriculum out there also.
You kind of have to pick and choose.
There's videotapes, but I don't like my children spending that much time in front of the video, even if it is educational.
So, it's pretty much up to you how you want to do it.
The main thing is to be flexible and try to be organized.
It doesn't take much time to homeschool, depending on your grade level and how many children you have.
For younger children, you can do it in half an hour to an hour.
With older children, you might spend four to five hours on their education every day.
A lot of the parents that I know teach year-round, and that's three weeks on and one week off, all year-round.
so they don't have that three months of summer that they forget what they learned the few
months before.
It's easy to teach several children at once.
They can be taught together.
Older students usually will help with the younger ones.
I know my son enjoys helping our three-year-old with writing her name and learning her ABCs.
And a lot of people will ask you if parents are qualified to teach their children.
You don't have to know everything in order to teach.
Your example and your enthusiasm and learning will motivate your children and encourage them a lot more than appearing as if you know it all.
A lot of people also ask if homeschoolers are accepted into colleges.
There's more than 200 institutions listed on the Home Schooling Legal Defense Association and they have surveys of colleges and universities which have welcomed home educated students.
You should also have a thorough transcript of high school level work and award a diploma, specify an actual high school graduation date, And occasionally GED tests may be required by a college or employer for additional verification.
Some employment situations also require 15 credit hours of college work.
Okay.
Do we have any callers yet?
I think we can open up the lines, but while we're asking the women out there to call us with their suggestions and their questions for Jolene, I'll just remind you of a little poem.
School days, school days, dear old golden rule days, reading and writing and arithmetic, talk to the tune of the hickory stick.
The call in number is 1-602-337-2524.
We look forward to hearing from ladies all over the country with their experience in homeschooling or with their
questions.
So, thank you.
We were told that the third grade level are the ones who get taken to the St.
John's Water Department to see the St.
John's happens to have particularly good water.
We have here two storage tanks above ground and two wells that go down.
One goes down 600 feet and they both go down 1,200 feet, but they draw the water at 600 feet at this time.
The number that you're going to be calling is 1-602-337-2524.
We're going to be having Ladies Night every Friday night and Doreen will be with us for
two or three sessions so that we can really get into the subject of homeschooling and
of the problems that you may be having and that you want to share across the nation.
Thank you.
you Doreen can you think of a question to ask some of the women out there that they might be thinking of calling in about?
Well mostly if any of you have any comments or suggestions we'd sure like to hear from you.
There's a lot of different approaches to homeschooling and I know with some of you you probably don't think it's a very popular idea but it is sweeping across the nation and I've talked to several people that are doing it and one of the things that surprised me the most is how many public school teachers I've talked to that go home from work every day and then homeschool their own children because they know their children are getting a substandard education.
They're worried about the violence in schools, they're worried about gang activity, drugs, sex, and a really below standard education that kids are getting.
Most of the children that are doing homeschooling are being tested and they're ranking about 85% higher in the same test that the public school children are.
So that says a lot for homeschooling.
My husband and I, we work at home.
We have a home business, and so it allows us to have enough time to do this, which is a real blessing.
We try to be flexible with our schedules, and we also try to be somewhat organized, sometimes not as much as I'd like to be.
But I try to plan my lessons in the evening time after the kids have went to bed, and I have time to think.
And some of the books I'm using are the Abeka system, and I have the math, the science, world history, and literature.
And then I supplement this with all kinds of other information.
Do you know any women in your area that are homeschooling, or are you pretty much alone?
Yes, there's several.
We have a caller now.
What?
Hello?
Hello, you're on the air.
Hello, I just had a question.
I hear that public schools...
Yes.
Could you turn that off?
I would dare to take one to the 13 year old mentality only.
That's the name I just wondered.
That's true.
Do you have your radio on by any chance?
Yes.
Could you turn that off? We're getting a lot of feedback.
We appreciate your question, Meljie.
Doreen, can you repeat the question?
Well, a lot of the children that I have seen myself, I've noticed a lot of 17-year-olds that don't know how to use a dictionary.
They don't know how to use a phone book.
They don't know their way around a library, and it's really too bad.
They need to re-educate themselves.
Now, I don't know if the problem is that the parents thought that they were learning this in school, And the school thought that they were learning it at home, but somewhere along the lines, the kids were lost in the shuffle.
I've also seen a lot of kids shuffled right through the system.
I have a friend that has a picture of the principal of the school handing the diploma to this fellow I know, and he graduated from the 8th grade with straight F's.
Interesting.
Alright, we'll ask the callers to call in again.
The number is 602-337-2524.
I'm sorry, we lost the lady who was with us, but her radio was causing too much interference.
Hello, you're on the air.
Yes, I'm a regular listener.
I'm sorry but we don't have time.
Alright, I'm sorry we have to hang up and we're welcoming the calls from the women in the audience out there who are calling in talking about their children on Friday evenings for the next few Fridays.
We're sorry fellas, we have to give the ladies some time here so that they can get their ideas together and encourage each other.
We appreciate hearing from you, but not on Ladies Night, okay?
Great.
Hello, you're on the air.
Yeah, thank you.
I was calling to find out what kind of advice you might be able to give to single moms, or even single parents in general, that want to give their children the benefits of a home education, but yet, you know, we're living in a society where we have to go to work every day.
We have to make a living.
So I thought maybe you'd have some suggestions on how we can work out creatively homeschooling our children as well as meeting our obligations in the workplace.
Well, how many hours do you have every evening with your child?
About five.
Okay, that's a good start.
Most homeschooling will only take two to four hours with any curriculum.
And you know, our Bible instructs us to teach our children at all times, whether we're waking in the morning or on the road with them during the day and when we lay down and go to sleep at night.
So we always need to be instructing them however we can and helping them to shape their morals and their ideals.
Have you come across anyone who is trying to homeschool that might be a single parent?
you know, either widowed or divorced, and what do they normally do with their children during the day?
Well, it depends on your circumstance.
I know some tight-knit families that are fortunate enough where they can leave their children with a relative
if they don't have them in daycare or something like that.
But really, if you can just get a hold of some homeschooling people in your area
and talk to the Homeschooling Legal Defense Association, and there's some other people, too, that will help you out.
The Homeschooling Legal Defense Association will send you a list of homeschooling organizations and support groups in your area.
Those are the people you need to get in touch with.
And do you find from your own experience or perhaps others in home educating that as long as the test scores are at or above the local or national average that they pretty much leave you alone?
Or if you're doing too good of a job, do they like to harass you for that reason?
Homeschoolers are never really left alone.
Our federal government and our state government, it's a constant battle with them to keep our right to homeschool.
February 15, 1994, a fax was released, and this was H.R.
6, House Resolution 6.
Which was going to demand that all homeschooling teachers had to be teacher certified.
Now Congress was overwhelmed with calls and letters and at times the calls totally shut down the switchboards on the Capitol Hill and we did win that battle.
But it is a constant one and the main reason they don't want us homeschooling is because they don't have control over our children.
Right.
Boy, thanks so much for taking the time to share all that with us.
Well, thank you.
Thanks so much.
Good luck.
All right, the number is 602-337-2524.
Hello, you're on the air.
Oh, yes.
Hello, my name is Diane and we're just north of Houston.
And I want to make a couple of comments to you.
We were talking tonight on homeschooling.
Yeah.
And I just wanted to let your viewers know that there's another book that they might want to get some information out of.
It's called Christian Educators Curriculum Manual by Kathy Duffy.
And she has it for both elementary and high school children.
And there are a lot of good resources in that book that would lead people to good curriculum.
And another thing that I wanted to suggest is if People would contact Homeschool Legal Defense.
They would also find out about organizations in each individual state that would be for support groups for homeschoolers.
Yes.
And they would be able to find out about conferences and things that are in their area where they could go and view many different curriculum suppliers at these conferences.
They have their curriculum for display.
I know here in the Houston area we will be having one June 10th and 11th.
And a lot of the suppliers and vendors would have their curriculum available for people to view and make their choices and selections and talk to the actual, sometimes the people who develop the curriculum.
And that's a good help if you can talk to them personally and share, you know, maybe what your particular problem with your child is.
Well, thank you very much.
Those are excellent tips.
Thank you very much.
And thank you.
Goodbye.
Bye.
We might add right here that we in CAGI, the Citizens Agency for Joint Research, are having a convention from August 1st through August 5th, and we will be having some of the homeschooling information available then, and we hope to see many of you here.
All right, we'll welcome another caller.
602-337-2524.
That's 602-337-2524.
Just a little bit.
Some people really lack confidence and they're worried about how you get started.
You might doubt your ability to teach, but after you do it a little while, you'll gain confidence.
Some people are afraid of being able to work with their own children, but having discipline and having an orderly household is absolutely a must.
You have to have your children's respect in order to get their cooperation.
Inadequate time and energy is something a lot of mothers are concerned with.
I don't have that much time, but if you can have a daily schedule and your lessons planned out and a chore list so that your children can help you with their chores, it really helps a lot.
They need to know the responsibility of doing these things.
They can help you with the cooking, the laundry, household chores.
Our kids help a lot at our house.
Hello, you're on the air.
Hi Carolyn, Marsha from St.
Petersburg.
Hello, Marsha.
Are you going to address a question to Doreen tonight, too?
Well, I wanted to make a comment on homeschooling.
Good.
I want parents who are thinking about homeschooling to be very, very careful about even choosing a Christian quote-unquote curriculum because they really are getting just as bad as what's being taught in the public schools.
They're using the same theories, the same types of books, Now, what my daughter does is we go around to all the used book stores, and we even have found books from the 1800s that were used to teach children in literature, in grammar, and they are far superior to anything you'll find today.
Now, of course, your science is you need more modern books, but be very careful of any of these curriculums put out, especially You know, you think you're safe with Christian ones, and you're not.
You're not.
We've looked them all over, and they're using the same methods the public schools are.
That's true, and you do have to review what your children are reading, even in a Christian curriculum.
Absolutely.
There's times when we have to review what we're reading and then discuss it, because we don't always agree with everything that's in our son's textbooks, either.
And it leaves it open for a lot of discussion.
I might also add that today I went over to a thrift store and I found a whole bunch of good textbooks.
Many of them were older and they were all 25 cents a piece, so I really felt like I needed a bargain.
Right.
That's really where we've gotten our best bargains are in the used stores.
You'll find a lot of old school books even from maybe 30, 40 years ago that were not As politically correct or as brainwashing as they are today.
And as you said, when you come upon a chapter that there's things you do not agree, this does open up discussion.
Why you can tell a child violence, why it's wrong, and why you feel it's wrong.
So, I just wanted to warn people to be very careful of getting any set curriculum from anybody.
That's a very good idea.
And the main thing is to be flexible.
You can review all different kinds of curriculum.
You're in control and you need to check out what you want to teach your children.
Absolutely.
And you'll love it.
You will absolutely love, you know, maybe the first month or so while you're getting on a schedule or whatever.
But after a while you will just love it.
My grandchildren have been homeschooled for three years now.
They will never set foot in a public school ever, ever again.
Well, that's the way I feel.
They'll have to drag me kicking and screaming and take me to jail before I'll do it and I'll fight to my last breath before I'll take my children.
That's how my daughter feels.
I'll let somebody else get on now, okay?
Thank you.
Thank you.
Bye-bye.
Bye.
Alright, we're going to take a small break here and I think she's got it!
I think she's got it!
My Lord, she's got it!
My Lord, she's got it!
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On the plain, on the plain.
And where's that foggy plain?
It's plain, it's plain.
Plain, plain, plain, plain is the plain.
Plain, plain, plain, plain is the plain.
In the park, Harris looks anxious.
Hurry, they've caught me, Captain!
How kind of you to let me come.
Now once again, where are the slaves?
On the plain, on the plain.
Oh, this place is the place of love.
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Doreen, I think we have another caller waiting to talk to you, and I'm going to ask ahead of time if everyone will be sure to turn off their radio before they call in so we won't get the feedback.
Hello, who's there?
there.
There's some days when everybody has spring fever and that's a good day to get out and take a nature hike, go walk in the woods if you still can.
And also, go to the zoo, go to a museum.
St.
John's has a wonderful museum here and they have a constitution room.
You should bring your children down to check this out.
There's a lot of things that you can do on these days when your kids are antsy.
We also have field trips as a reward when our son is doing his best and ahead of all of his studies.
Attitude has improved quite a bit since we've been homeschooling.
It took about two weeks for him to adjust to it and for us, too.
But after those two weeks of adjustment time, it has been a blessing, and I encourage all of you people, if you can, try homeschooling.
You won't have to worry about the peer pressure.
All right?
Hello?
You're on the air.
I do.
I want to say that I appreciate the show you're having on homeschool.
There's really nothing more important than our children, and I appreciate you, Carolyn, and I appreciate Doreen for sharing her knowledge with us.
I'm not a homeschooling mother because my children are too old before I learned that that was the best thing to do, but I'd like to share a little information with you because I'm a teacher and I do realize the importance of reading and teaching children to read correctly, which most homeschoolers find out real soon is to teach them by a true phonics method.
But I'd like to share with you a resource or one of the best that I have found through With children and that is a wonderful way to teach children to read.
And that's called The Riding Road to Reading by Ramalda Scalding.
Many high schoolers are already familiar with it.
I've worked with a number of them in teaching classes in this.
And if you'll permit me, I'll give your listeners an address where they can contact the Scalding Education Foundation That would be wonderful.
Okay.
And it is the Spalding Education Foundation.
The address is 5930 West Greenway, Suite 4, Glendale, Arizona, 85306.
Would you repeat that?
Yes.
It's the Spalding Education Foundation, 5930 West Greenway, Suite 4, Glendale, Arizona, Greenway, Suite 4, Glendale, Arizona, 85306.
Fine, thank you.
I know I got it.
Yes, and there are courses taught across the country, and they have a listing of courses that are available.
They're sold by instructors in many states in the United States.
In most of those classes, homeschoolers are welcomed and it's a place where you can learn a successful way to teach your children.
I know many people, teaching reading is the most important thing that you're going to address first of all.
That's a fundamental skill.
That's true.
And it's very frustrating when there are problems in that area.
But this method is one that works.
It reveals the logic and organization of the language.
And the method fits our English language beautifully.
And it reveals how wonderful our language really is.
And Mrs. Balding, who wrote the method, her philosophy coincides very much with that of most homeschoolers of wanting The best for the children and she emphasizes the use of quality literature and quality techniques which is what we all want.
Absolutely.
I've had several teachers recommend the Spaulding Method to me also for reading and they really think it comes highly approved.
So you might try contacting those people and get some more information on them.
Right.
there are a lot of trainers and people using the solving method there in Arizona
and you're right in a good area to find people who do that well thank you thank you bye-bye bye-bye
yes reading is very important and you don't really want your kids absorbed in comic books
when there's good literature out there when there's important documents for them to read
You know, you just have to kind of pick and choose between their grade level And what you want them to learn.
Doreen, I think once in a while a good video tape is useful.
Don't you?
We saw the first cut of the new Luxor tape tonight.
Oh yes, that was incredible.
And we're a little bit spellbound.
The color, the showing of outside of the Great Pyramid, this vibrant light that's coming out of the peak, and the inside of the pyramid, all of it is just spellbinding and you don't talk very much when you watch it.
No, the symbology and the imagery is incredible.
It'll make you stop and think.
The number that we want you to call is 602-337-2524.
That's 602-337-2524.
I know there are a lot of people out there waiting for their Luxor tapes and it's well worth it.
You're going to be glad you waited.
They say that you can see the light coming out of the top of the pyramid From the air, from Los Angeles.
It's just an overwhelming experience.
My goodness.
The number is 602-337-2524.
There are a couple of addresses here I'd like to give for our Arizona listeners.
There's the Northern Arizona Home Educators, and their PO Box is 30082.
Flagstaff Arizona 860030082 Get a hold of them and they'll let you know what's going on in your area.
The number to call is 602-337-2524.
Carolyn, one of the big benefits that we've noticed through homeschooling is not only is our kid getting a good
education, We're going to pause there and for Poole, I will say, I'm not a kid.
I'm a young lady.
That's right.
And Nathan is a young man.
So, continue.
Oh, we have a caller.
All right.
We'll continue later.
Hello, you're on the air.
Yes, I am Karen from Orange, California.
Hi Karen.
Hi.
I wanted to just let the Orange, California people know or even just any Southern California know that there's a big TIA convention at Disneyland Hotels.
TIA is the Christian Home Educators Association of California and what it is, it's a workshop on Saturdays and Sunday and even on Friday with all curriculum.
I have never gone.
This will be in my first year attending, but my fourth year of homeschooling, and I hear it's really wonderful, but it's got Rebecca and Backyard Science and Bob Jones University Press, and so there's just tons and tons of information.
You almost feel overwhelmed, but I hear it's really wonderful, and I have an address, because you have to, it's better to register ahead of time, And so I'd like to give that if that's okay?
Yes, that'll be nice.
Okay, it's Chia of California, and it's P.O.
Box 2009, Norwalk, California, 90651-2009.
90651-2009. And it is, the dates of it are July 8th, 9th, and 10th, and it's at Disneyland
Hotel. Well, thank you.
And Peter Marshall and Michael Smith and Michael Ferris I'm sure are probably, you may be familiar with too, but it should be really good.
I'm really excited and there's just tons of workshops to go to.
Well that sounds wonderful.
I hope you can have a chance to go and I hope a lot of other homeschoolers will make it to that.
Okay, thank you very much.
Thank you.
Bye bye.
I might also add that Jenny Saki at the Titus Woman's Potpourri has a lot of good used books.
Sometimes her books are up to 50% off of the selling price and her phone number is 206-822-7337.
206-822-7337.
two oh six eight two two seven three three seven two oh six eight two two seven three
three seven.
Give her a call and see what she has.
And in the meantime call six oh two and talk to Doreen six oh two three three seven two
602-337-2524.
We'd also like to hear from anybody that's had problems with their kids in public school.
I know there's a lot of information that's coming home for the parents to fill out, questionnaires.
Some of them are pretty personal.
They want to know more and more about what kind of home life you have and how you relate with your children.
We heard one news report, I believe it was on Paul Harvey, and he was talking about a public school that had sent home contracts requesting the parents to fill them out and return them to the school that said that they would lock up their weapons in an approved safe.
I wonder what comes next.
Are they going to demand to enter your home and see whether or not you've complied or perjured yourself?
Then what?
Parents, you'd better be involved enough to know what your children are learning and being taught and asked at school.
You'd better study your history of how Hitler controlled the schools.
You'd better find out how the U.N.
Treaty and the rights of the child will affect you and your family.
Article 29 of the U.N.
Treaty, Rights of the Child, states, It is the goal of the State to direct the education of the people it governs toward the philosophy of the New World Order as enshrined in the Charter of the United Nations.
And this excerpt is from the Teaching Home Magazine, January and February of 1994.
The number is 602-337-2524 and we might take this opportunity to... We have a caller.
Hello?
You're on the air.
Oh, yes.
Well, I just wanted to mention that just recently my son came home with a form and that every week he had a check-off daily.
Did your parents ever leave you alone?
Do you brush your teeth how many times a day?
you brush your hair how many times a day do your parents argue and I just wanted to bring
it up that I feel that the schools are becoming very intrusive in our lives.
They are and for a reason and parents whether you decide to homeschool your children or
not you must do one thing. You must teach your children that they have the right to
refuse to answer any question that they feel is too personal or not anybody's business
and you have to back them on that.
I'm going to go ahead and close this out.
I'd like to mention one other thing.
My children go to a folklore school and they have a dance troupe and President Clinton was going to visit our city and because the dance troupe is an exemplary troupe Oh my goodness.
organization to stand outside and wave flags when the President's border
brigade passed this one building that he was going to appear in and the flags that
they wanted the children to wave was the flag of the U.N.
My goodness, aren't they getting blatant about it?
And several parents were upset about it, but no, that's the absolute truth.
It's from the city I'm calling about, because I don't want to get my... Can you document that and send it to us, please?
Can I document it?
Oh, yes, I can.
Absolutely.
Well, great.
We'd like to have that.
I don't have... Do you give the address out?
I'm almost the first time listener.
This is the second time I've ever listened to your show.
Right.
The address will be repeated at the end of the show, but it is...
P.O.
Box 1420, Show Low, that's capital S-H-O-W, capital L-O-W, Arizona 85901.
on. Eight five nine zero one.
That's catchy see a J.I.
Post office box one four two zero. So low Arizona eight five
nine zero one.
Okay, I hear that.
Fine.
Thank you.
Well, thank you for listening and we sure appreciate your call in and do keep listening and keep us informed also as to what you're seeing out there.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Any of you that can get a copy of the New World Order UN Treaty, Rights of the Child, you definitely need to read that.
It has some information that will blow your mind.
They're trying to take our children away from us.
And you need to read your history books and see how Adolf Hitler controlled the schools.
The same thing is happening again, folks.
All of you out there can begin preparing your questions and your contributions for next Friday.
Doreen will be with us again.
And I know it's not easy on the first night when, unexpectedly, you want to call in.
But do call 602-337-2524.
We're waiting for another call.
We probably have time for at least five or six more calls.
There's a lot of social pressure that some homeschoolers feel from well-meaning friends and relatives.
You just have to inform them the facts, and I had a lot of questions posed to me from my family, and they wanted to know why we were thinking of homeschooling.
Especially my sisters.
I told them, you know, with the violence, it's a daily threat in some schools.
Some kids have to go to school and worry about what's going to happen.
We have a caller.
Oh, good.
Hello, you're on the air.
Oh, hi.
I just wanted to add that famous little quote, if you didn't mention it, because I missed the first five minutes of your program.
Alright.
And that was about Mr. Quentin's Arkansas school.
Okay?
And that was Mr. Haggard's statement that he wanted to get the kids away from overbearing religious conservative training at home.
Did you hear that?
No, I personally didn't hear that, but it doesn't surprise me.
Uh-huh.
Especially since a lot of homeschoolers and people that have taught their children with religious trainings are being lumped together under the cult heading.
Uh-huh.
Well, I had a little question for you also, and perhaps you touched on this.
Some development happened in New Mexico lately, and I only heard a fragment about it, and I wondered if you could fill me in on that with the homeschoolers there.
No, but perhaps some of our callers outside either this week or next week could call with that information, or if you research it between now and next week, will you call us again?
I will if I can find it.
It's a little obscure.
I'm in Connecticut, and it's a little tough to get the New Mexico data, but I will try.
It has to do with periodic testing of the homeschool kids, I think, relating to how they're progressing in terms of their attitudinal changes.
Yes, you do have to cooperate with your state's laws on that, and they do vary from state to state.
I have a organization here from New Mexico, if you'd like to contact them and find out.
Ah, well.
We might need your help, so go right ahead.
Yes, I will do.
I was looking for a pen.
Okay.
I have it.
Okay, this is the New Mexico Christian Home Educators, 5749 Paradise Boulevard.
Say that again?
5749 Paradise Boulevard.
Say that again.
5749 Paradise Boulevard.
Uh huh.
Albuquerque, New Mexico.
Uh huh.
And just run that first title by me, the four words in the first title.
New Mexico Christian Home Educators.
Thank you so much.
Thank you for calling.
Keep up the good work.
Bye-bye.
Thank you.
The number is 602-337.
2524.
Doreen is here with us tonight and she'll be back next Friday to answer questions and to share with the listening audience items about homeschooling.
Yes, you have to remember people this is your right to teach your children as you see fit.
The time that you have with them is precious time.
It should be cherished.
You'll only benefit, and so will your children.
I know parents that were maybe, their children were two months behind on schoolwork, and they pulled them out of public school because they weren't getting the help, and that was my case also.
I was already spending anywhere from two to four hours every night, seven days a week, to help my son get caught up in public school.
I finally decided I'm doing this on my own already.
I might as well use a curriculum that I approve of.
I might as well have the control of the input that he's getting in homeschooling.
And it's really been a blessing.
We'd like to hear from any of you ladies that have any more comments or questions.
The number is 602-337-2524.
In the state of Arizona, you have to, you're required to fill out an affidavit of intent.
Now, I read recently that this can even be a non-form.
It just has to have your child's name, their date of birth, current address of the school that your child was attending, the names, the phone numbers, and the addresses of the parents or legal guardians And a statement that the child will take a standardized test.
We have a caller.
Hello, you're on the air.
Uh, yes, I'm on the... Brief.
Sorry, it's ladies night.
The number is 602-337-2524.
We have time for about one more call, Doreen.
Uh, fellas, if you can just get back with us on Bill's call in, I'm sure he'd appreciate hearing from you.
Uh, and we do have another caller.
Hello, you're on the air.
Uh, yes, I need to know, um, about these books.
It's What Your Second Grader Needs to Know, and it's by E.D.
Hirsch, Jr.
And, uh, I just need to know, would it be good to homeschool with these?
Uh, actually, I'm not familiar with that curriculum.
Do you know any homeschoolers in your area?
Okay, what area are you in?
Vermont, Texas.
Texas, okay.
Okay, let's see if I have a list here.
Again, if you would just call or contact the homeschool legal defense.
Okay.
Let's see, we have several here.
Austin, Blue Box, Dallas.
Any of those close to you?
Uh, probably the closest would be Austin.
Austin?
Okay.
Just, do you have a telephone number?
We're running out of time.
Uh, no I don't.
Okay.
I'm speaking to Doreen.
Yes.
Here's the telephone number for the Home Oriented Private Education for Texas.
Area code 502, or 512-280-4673.
502 or 512-280-4673.
512-280-4673.
512-280-4673.
Give them a call and I'm sure they can help you out.
Okay, thank you.
Thank you, Holly.
Thank you, Doreen.
We'll go off the air for this evening.
See you next Friday.
Thank you.
Bye-bye.
What in the morning is up to you?
The gig is big and the gold is new.
American music and cycle man.
Just a hard-cornered man.
Working a minute right on the wall.
I don't know what day it is.
The guy behind me up in the old hall.
Ring, ring, don't forget me.
The gentleman's not your best man.
You're not sure who's your best man.
You're lucky you think you have all the music.
The guy behind you over your book.
Keep it together, don't know how many of you know.
Don't hesitate to come around.
If I ain't here, you're burning down.
Don't forget about the guy behind you, please.
I'm the home of the music.
Up to the corner of the bed.
Right into the bottom floor here.
Drop the corn on the low top.
The guy in the corner, let's see him hop.
For those of you above, you're looking all right.
All the time, you're talking to me.
Leave the music and let's go.
Round and round and round and round and round and round and round we go.
Go, go, go.
Go.
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