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Jan. 24, 1994 - Bill Cooper
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Treason #6, Paul's Research
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Bye bye.
The easiest power I've ever tried.
I am the power, the easy power of the dark side. Yes, I am the one who brings the dark side to life.
I am the one who brings the dark side to life.
Hi everybody, I'm Tom Valentine.
to you via Radio Freemasonry.
Just kidding, folks.
Thought I'd give you a little heart attack there.
This is William Cooper, and you're listening to the Hour of the Time.
Tom was at it again tonight, but we're not going to waste any words on him.
People who have been listening to this program since its inception on May 4, 1992 know exactly who is who and what is what.
We have revealed the true enemy.
that Radio Freemasonry continues to deny in our series of thirty-two audio tapes that were aired on the hour of the time, which is thirty-two hours of broadcast, identifying the mystery religion of Babylon, its history up to the modern day, and its hiding place, the cockroaches behind the veil of the secret societies of which Tom Valentine is a member.
Ladies and gentlemen, if you are a new listener to this broadcast, I don't have the time to replay everything or to reiterate everything.
If you're sincerely interested, order the tapes that we have produced.
If you're not, don't waste our time and don't waste Tom Valentine's time.
I'm too busy, folks, trying to save this country to play your stupid, silly little games.
There are, and I'm going to say this again and you better listen, there are people set on bringing about a one-world totalitarian socialist government.
They operate in secret, behind innocent-looking front organizations such as Freemasonry, the Ancient Order of the Rose Cross, or Rosa Cruces, the Knights Templar, The sovereign and military order of the Knights of Malta, and many, many others, at times appearing to oppose themselves, but always moving us toward that one goal through the Hegelian dialectic of political conflict resolution.
They have always succeeded because the sheeple of the world have always believed that their leaders were taking them in the right direction, and could do no And that has been your downfall forever.
For these people have succeeded by creating issues and controlling both sides.
The moment you organize a patriot organization, it is then infiltrated and controlled from within.
If you don't believe that, examine the membership of your patriot leaders in the lodges of the
Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, the York Rite of Freemasonry, the Ancient Order of Rosicrucius,
the Sovereign and Military Order of the Knights of Malta, the Knights Templar, and folks,
many, many others.
If you really want to wake up, you continue to listen to the Hour of the Time, for we
don't bore you with suppositions, and we don't tell you that if you give sustenance to the
symbology of the pyramid and stuff, you're just making it more powerful.
That's bullshit.
They are powerful because they are real, ladies and gentlemen.
And it wasn't the man that Tom Valentine mentioned who put the pyramid on our dollar bill.
It was our founding fathers who created the great seal of the United States of America, both the obverse and the reverse.
It just wasn't used until it was placed on the dollar bill.
That's the truth of the matter.
Make sure you have pen and paper by your side every moment when you listen to this program, because we don't play those games.
We give you facts.
We give you bibliographies.
We quote right out of their own mouths.
We cite the law page and paragraph, and we don't play.
Silly games?
With anybody.
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guests tonight.
Last Thursday, we started our series on treason.
Treason.
The counterfeit government, which calls itself the government of the United States of America, Is not, I repeat, I renounce it, I expose them.
They are illegal, unlawful, unconstitutional, and are, in fact, not the constitutional government of the United States of America, and have not been for a long, long time, and we are proving it on this program.
We are proving the treason, their long history throughout the ages, what they have done in To subvert and destroy this nation and bring about their one-world totalitarian socialism in their own words, ladies and gentlemen, in their own words.
I wrote about all this in my book as I first began to open my eyes and discover what was happening when I was a member of the Office of Naval Intelligence many years ago.
After over twenty years of research, I wrote a book.
In this book, I outlined everything that I had discovered And eventually began broadcasting on May 4, 1992, the hour of the time.
Many people began to listen to this program in disbelief, set out to prove me wrong, and found the documentation that I stated to be in fact in existence to be real.
Many of them joined my intelligence-gathering organization, CASU, the Citizens Agency for Joint Intelligence, and began Operating in secret, digging out information wherever they worked, wherever they lived, in government, out of government, within law enforcement agencies, within the military, everywhere.
And we have put it together piece by piece, point by point, and everyone who has set out to prove me wrong has proved me right.
And we have as our guest tonight, one of those people, a TAGI member.
One of the best researchers in our organization, who has duplicated all of my original research, as have several others.
Whenever we assign research projects, or whenever someone volunteers for a research project, we always assign other CAGI members to duplicate the research.
In this manner, if one misses something, the other one invariably catches it.
This phone, ladies and gentlemen, is a man named Paul, who has operated in secret for many months, digging out what you are hearing in this series on treason.
It is a duplication of my original research, and he has produced by far the most voluminous amount of material from his documentation of the treason, the destruction of the United States of America, than any other Cajun member to date.
I don't know if you read my book, did you?
Parts of it.
I haven't had time to finish it.
You've been too busy, haven't you?
A little bit, yeah.
I want to welcome you to the Hour of the Time.
Thank you, Mr. Cooper.
And why don't we start out.
I remember, you know, to this day I don't know if you read my book.
Did you?
Parts of it.
I haven't had time to finish it.
You've been too busy, haven't you?
A little bit, yeah.
Well, I remember sitting at home one day, and you as a CAJI member, of course, had a
phone number to be able to reach me.
And I remember sitting at home one day, and you as a CAJI member, of course, had a phone
number to be able to reach me.
a phone number to be able to...
to reach me at any time that you need to.
And you called me at home and said that you had been listening to the Hour of the Time
and wanted to find documentation for some of the things that I had put out over the
air.
And I told you where this documentation was and what it was and you asked me if I could
furnish it to you and what was my answer, Paul?
Well, we have to dig it up ourself.
That's the way to do it.
So I told you you had to dig it up yourself and of course nobody ever likes to hear that.
What did you do after that?
Well, I had had some trouble trying to find it in the library, and you just kind of guided me along as to, I wasn't aware there was an appendix to the Congressional Record, and you stated that there was, and I went and dug further, and sure enough, it was there.
So most of the people who set out to do research, I know most of the people who set out to find this voluminous mound of material.
have started with the Arms Control and Disarmament Act and as soon as they got to the paragraph
that said that until the law is changed or until there is a treaty made, no provision
of this treaty is to be construed to mean the disarmament of the American people, they
stopped there.
What did you do?
Well, I remember your program last spring where you were discussing the disarmament
and you told the people to go do their homework and look it up and I went and looked it up
and it's so unbelievable.
I kept looking and looking and I kept digging and digging and it's unbelievable what's there.
There's a lot more there that we haven't had time to dig up.
That's true.
Can you take us sort of step by step?
How did you, where did you go and what did you do and how did you I remember one conversation we had.
You said you'd reached a dead end and the librarian wasn't too helpful.
I gave you some hints on how to handle the librarian.
Did you ever use any of those techniques that I gave you?
Definitely, yes.
When dealing with librarians, unfortunately many of them don't know much what's going on in the federal document area.
The nicer a person is and when you work with the librarian and sometimes suggest things
instead of telling them what to do they are a lot more friendly and they really will do
what they can to find things.
And unfortunately I've had to dig things up on my own that they couldn't even find.
It just takes a little common sense and digging to find things.
It's important to work with the librarian though and really show that you appreciate
all the work that they are doing and how they are teaching us to find these things too.
Yeah, a long way.
Do you ever take her a flower or a bag of donuts or something?
Not yet.
That library is quite away from here.
Usually it's a different librarian, so it's kind of hard to work that one out.
But they do want to have access to the information, and when it's available, they've all been very interested in it.
I'm trying to work with them as soon as we get it available.
So it begins to open their eyes also, doesn't it?
Oh, yeah.
They have no idea whatsoever.
Actually, no one does.
Paul, the biggest reason that I wanted you on the program tonight is because I keep getting from people, well, I'm just one helpless person.
I don't have access to the material that you do.
I don't know how to do research.
What they're really telling me is, oh, it sounds like work.
I'm not going to do that.
That's what it translates to in my mind, and I'm not going to let them get away with it.
So I wanted you on the show tonight because when I tell them that every bit of this is in the public domain and anybody that's got perseverance and is willing to work can dig it out, and you're living proof of that, aren't you?
Yes, I must admit so.
with the disarmament program you did, let alone the banking and all the other areas
I've worked with.
But you also gave Mrs. Smith's address at the end of that program to thank her.
I also dropped her a line and thanked her.
Between you and she both, you have walked me through some things because we don't know
much about libraries.
It's hard to find.
And thanks to you and Stan when he was still helping you and Bernadine, I mean all three
of you are. I'd probably win the phone half of what I did if it weren't for your help.
So I mean those guidelines really do help people and they save a lot of time.
Absolutely and the program that we did on Bernadine Smith's material you then through me contacted her and she was able to help you in your research also.
Exactly, exactly.
Well, let's just start out and tell us how you began and what you started to find, and tell us about some of the mile posts, in other words, those times when you just stood there and said, Oh my God!
And then what you did next.
And also, I want to make a point, folks, that this guy, you know, this isn't the only thing he has to do.
This is a very busy, busy person.
He attends classes, he has commitments, he has family commitments, just like everybody.
He has a lot of work to do, and really, to tell you the truth, when he first started
this, he expressed a doubt as to whether he would have the time to do this research or
not.
And he certainly persevered and made the time, and he didn't have any more free time than,
I would say, probably 95% of all of you listening.
So why don't you go ahead and start?
I'm just going to turn it over to you, and I'll tell you when the break gets here, and just tell us the whole story.
Well, there's three things I'd like to start out with, first of all.
First of all, I'd like to thank you for discussing this on Shortwave, because that's the only way I found out about it, okay?
And I thank you for that, and your help, and Stan's help, because he helped me.
He was still helping me at that time.
And secondly, I'd also like to thank your sponsors, First America, for financing your airtime so that, you know, Some of us out here are waking up and we are working on doing things about that.
Thirdly, Bernadine, you gave me your address and I contacted her.
Between all three of you, this work wouldn't be where it is right now.
First of all, that's important that all of you realize how much you helped in bringing this together.
I remember the first program.
I don't know how I tuned in but I tuned in and one of the nights you were discussing this armament and that it was all documented in the federal documents and I just it was unbelievable and I didn't I jotted down some things and my notes were kind of hard to read and thankfully you ran a rerun and I taped that one and I I started going to the library to find out if it was true, because you challenged us to do our homework.
Well, I didn't want to believe it was true, but if it was, it's something seriously we all better face.
And if we don't face it, we're going to regret it.
The local library is pretty small, so I started going to the nearest library that's a federal repository.
It's about 25-30 miles away, and they had some documents, but not many of the older documents.
A larger city quite a ways away and they're a major federal depository and they've had every single document but one and I just started learning how to use the monthly catalogs and picking up federal doc numbers and for doc numbers and I'd copy everything and then I'd bring it home and now when I started compiling this I just it's it's unbelievable it's all there it's just it's unbelievable but the key is is we got to wake up and realize this and when we get this information available, in
order to save people time, all the SUDOG numbers are included, all the page numbers, newspaper
articles, it's always the page numbers included, the section number.
So if anybody wants to confirm it and it's important that they do confirm it for themselves,
this will save them a lot of time in the library so they can get educated and educate other
people and start moving ahead and saving our country because it's getting down to the wire.
And as you get through all this documentation with the public, they're going to start realizing
If they don't act now, they're going to be staring at some AK-47s to their heads.
What was the first document you found where you realized that this was, in fact, treason?
I started, I went right in sequence with the way you did the program, and I believe it was, it would have been the public light 7297.
Yes, and that they were planning a one world government under the United Nations and they were pretty open about it.
And that showed you, in fact, that the United States was operating jointly with the Soviet
Union in order to create a one world government.
Yes, and that they were planning a one world government under the United Nations and they
were pretty open about it.
But the people, from what I have heard, I wasn't that, I wasn't even born then, but
from the people I've talked to, there was a lot of resistance.
The American people did not want this, and that explains one reason why it's so under the rug right now.
It's all there if people would just look, but they're not open about it because they know the American people don't want it.
And they wouldn't want it.
And it's got to be done in secret, otherwise it wouldn't be happening.
But they're getting more and more bold.
Overquiet 7297, a lot of things kind of happened probably through guidance and stuff, but I started finding out where to find out how many times it was voted on and amended, you know.
Fine, it was passed in 1961, well it's in current now.
Through digging and documentation, I've got it all the way to the current date as in Supplement 4 of the United States Code and it's still there and they've even added to it and they've even made it a little bit more explicit.
So, off of that, you know, with the Blueprint for the Peace Race and then 7277, I remember skimming through a section in your book on the One World Government because I mean, if anyone sits down and thinks about it, what is the purpose of a complete and total disarmament?
The whole purpose is a one-world government.
And to most people, that's a new idea.
That's so easily documented, it's unbelievable.
It's just we've got to know where to look.
And that's when I ran into that one problem, finding the appendix from, I believe, 1955.
And different testimony entered into the Congressional Record openly talking about the one that's
found, a one-world government.
And that's when I called you.
No.
If you told me there is an appendix, you just have to dig a little bit deeper and there
are no appendix.
Did you ever get mad at me because I wouldn't really give you the answers you wanted to
hear but made you go work for it?
No.
I've been raised that when you do things yourself, it's far better down the road.
I just appreciated how much help you did give.
Learning how to dig up these documents is something no one can put a price on.
When I go into a library now, 95%, if not more, I can put my finger on it instantly because I know how to find it.
I probably wouldn't have known that if you just would have told me how to get the number.
I appreciate you not telling me.
Well, you're a rare individual because most people do get angry.
But in this process, you have in fact become an expert library researcher and in fact are better at finding things in a library than probably 99% of all librarians who do this as a profession for their entire life.
Unfortunately, yes.
We would hope our librarians would know.
There are some really good librarians out there, and they really try to help.
Yes, there are.
We certainly don't want to take away from them.
There are some excellent librarians out there.
But unfortunately, in that socialist mentality, there are a lot of them who don't care, and they don't have the foggiest idea, and they let you know that, too.
Yeah, and a lot of them are indeed, in fact, socialists, aren't they?
Oh yeah.
And could account for the disappearance of some books from some libraries, although I'm not accusing them of that because we don't know who in fact is removing certain books from libraries, but this is happening across the country.
Have you discovered that in your research?
Yes.
Every single document I've looked for, I have found.
But sometimes you've got to come in from a different avenue.
And the one main library I do most of my research at, I sent down For the State Department document 7277 and they couldn't find it.
I asked the librarian, I said it was an important document, if she could go look and she went
and looked personally twice.
And she came back up and she said, all I can tell you is that it was either stolen or it
was mis-shelved.
And I thought, well isn't that a coincidence?
But I was able to get that one through the library loan so I just came in from a different
angle and thankfully it wasn't stolen at that library or disappeared.
Now since then we've done a library search and found that as far as we can tell on the
library search computers it only exists in two libraries in the country at the present
time.
We are not going to name those libraries because we do not want them to disappear from those
libraries.
However, it is for sale in the John Birch Society bookstores across the country.
So if you have a Birch Society bookstore in your town you can get a copy 7277 from them
or you can just wait until we finish the publication of this entire set of documents.
The entire research project will be published as a complete set of documents with total and complete references and sources and everything.
I mean, it will be the most incredible evidence of the treasonous destruction of the United States of America that's ever been published in the history of this country.
Now, Paul, during your research, you at some point found, as I found many years ago as a member of the Office of Naval Intelligence, that it was not coming to world government, but in fact, the world government was already instituted and in place, and we are subordinate to the United Nations Charter at this time, and are, in actual fact, a state of the United Nations.
What did you think when you discovered that?
To tell you the honest truth, all of this stuff that I have found and documented and with your help found, I still shake my head.
I know I do believe it because I've gone and I've dug it up and I've copied it and I've read it.
It's so unbelievable that some of our political leaders, in fact most of them, either out of Just because they believe in this would sell out our country.
I mean, that is really hard to believe and it's really hard to accept.
And that's one of the main reasons I documented this.
I mean, this stuff is far out.
And I had to go, I mean, dig it up.
And if it is true, it's something we've got to face up to and be responsible and deal with it and move ahead.
And if it isn't, well, so be it.
Unfortunately it is true and I've told you at times too.
There's times when it's just like a dream.
I'd wish someone would prove me wrong and I'd wish someone would say wake up.
It's just a dream.
Unfortunately it's not.
That's right, it's not.
And all of this documentation comes right out of the congressional record, right out of the United States code books, right out of the records of the United Nations, right out of the newspapers of the world, right out of State Department documentation.
This is not conjecture at all.
It is actual fact, and according to the Executive and Judicial Department interpretation of Article VI of the United States Constitution, the United States of America, in fact, does not exist anymore, but is a state of the United Nations under the United Nations Charter, and they are, in fact, in the process of disarming all nations of the world to bring into reality their one-world totalitarian socialist state.
One interesting thing I'd like to throw in is that it's very clear in the State Department Document 7277, word for word, it states specifically that states, meaning the country's armies, will be reduced and they cannot.
Their forces will be reduced in such a small number where there is no way they can challenge the U.N.
Army.
And that is a serious thing that the people must realize is that If we do have somewhat of a military left, it is only for policing at a national level.
It's not challenged in the U.N.
in any form.
Yeah, and the real reason for it will be to police us.
Yes.
In fact, not to protect us from some outside force, but to subordinate us to the United Nations dictates.
And one interesting thing, too, about the United Nations that I worked I don't know how many people really realize this.
I wasn't aware of it until I started reading this, but when this is compiled, you'll get copies of it.
We hear a lot about human rights, which is one of the United Nations conventions or charters and treaties.
And what's interesting is if a person would read the Human Rights Convention, right from the United Nations, which was co-authored with Mrs. Roosevelt, and also read the Russian Constitution, They will find that many of the articles are word for word.
Absolutely word for word.
And that's what the people have to realize is that a one world government under the U.N.
is welcome to the fourth Reich.
I mean, it's cut and dried.
And I'm trying to get my hands right now on the new Russian constitution to compare it to the old one and the U.N.
human rights.
And when we get that compiled, you know, we'll get it available through U.N.
stuff.
The people have to realize, I mean, if they've sat down and read the United Nations Charter, it has nothing to do with our Bill of Rights.
It's exactly opposite of our Bill of Rights.
And I just received in the mail today, Buccio Scali's book, An Agenda for Peace, right from the United Nations.
And we'll have to try and get that available with the documentation.
It's unbelievable.
He said the League of Nations unfortunately failed and now, you know, we're going to do it through the United Nations.
I mean, they're pretty clear as to what they're doing.
That's right.
And folks, old Mr. Tom Valentine tried to make you not listen to me by trying to connect me with UFOs.
The truth is, is Tom Valentine wanted me to talk about UFOs in his show, and it wasn't until I linked UFOs to the New World Order that he all of a sudden cut me off and said that he wasn't going to continue with me on the second hour.
That's what scared Mr. Valentine, because Mr. Valentine is involved in this.
If you listen to his show long enough, you'll see that he is covering up the real information that you need to know, and that you will only hear on the hour of the time.
Nowhere else.
Paul, what else can you go into that can enlighten people out there?
Are there any shortcuts in research?
Any things that you found that people normally would not know where to look that they can go and will help them find information faster?
Well, if a person has a Federal Food Act number, that will take hours and hours of time.
Okay, now why don't you explain to us exactly what that is?
Well, according to the federal documents, every federal government document from the United States Government Printing Office has a federal SUDOC.
The Library of Congress has its own number, so the SUDOC number doesn't do much good, but you can find, the librarians usually can help you find the Library of Congress number.
But in all the other libraries which are federal depositories, you can simply, with the SUDAC
number, go to the federal depository area and give them that SUDAC number and they will
pull up the document instantly for you.
Great.
Now hold on, because we've got to take a break.
I'll be right back.
We've got to go.
I'm going to be back in a minute.
I'm going to be back in a minute.
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Okay, Paul.
and you continue where you left off.
Sure.
When we were talking about the Federal Food Act numbers, the key issue is that the library is not a federal depository.
You can ask any librarian if your local library is.
If it isn't though, all you need is that Federal SUDAC number and you give them the number and the title with it and they will transfer that document in.
Either they will copy it for you or they will transfer it in where you can copy it or study it.
So that's why when I compiled all this, every single page has a Federal SUDAC number or a Federal Stat number.
I got to the point where I get leads from different people or I see copies of different
so-called Patriot stuff and it was rather annoying because I never gave page numbers
and usually just dates and unfortunately I did find a lot of typographical errors and
there are some documents that I never did find.
There are in fact a lot of documents floating around the Patriot community that are frauds
isn't that correct?
That's what I would say yes and unless people go document it themselves they'll never know
if they're being deceived or if they know what's actually going on.
That's why when we get this available, the page number, the section number, everything is included so anyone can go look it up themselves and find it.
Now, there's one thing is if you want to go look up any type of federal document and there's thousands of them out there and they're still being published currently, There's a government publication called the Monthly Catalog.
Some of these are published just monthly, and you'll find them in the library monthly in a paper soft cover.
Some of the libraries, the larger libraries, will actually find these in the books usually by year.
By yearly, it depends how many, how fast the books are for each month.
But if you want to look up like State Department 7277, you simply look up the title in the monthly catalog
in the index.
And sometimes you got to dig and look under different subject names.
But you should probably find that one under Freedom from War.
But you're not going to find it the date that Anthocya was released September 1961.
You probably won't find it until October or November, sometimes even five months later in the monthly catalog.
So sometimes it takes some digging through different monthly catalogs,
finding that actual federal document as to when it was printed in the monthly catalog.
And in the monthly catalog, you will be given the federal SUDAC number.
And from there, you simply show the library that number, and they'll pull up the document,
or they'll transfer it in from another library.
And not all libraries will have the monthly catalog.
So you'll have to find a library that has the monthly catalog where you can look it up.
Or all this documentation that we'll make available, they won't even need access to monthly catalogs.
They'll just have a doc number and they can send it in for library loan or whatever.
It'll save hours and hours of time.
Unfortunately, it's rather annoying when, not on your end Bill, but on other people's end, that they would have certain citations and they don't exist.
Either it's a typographical error or it's an honest mistake or it's an intentional mistake.
You never know unless you go dig it up.
That's crucial, especially with a lot of these far-fetched ideas coming out in the so-called patriots.
Did you ever go look for one document that I ever cited that was not in existence?
Let's see.
Run that by me one more time.
Did you ever hear me cite a document on this show or in my book and go look for that document and not be able to find it?
No.
Every single document that you have talked about I have been able to find.
I want to take a moment here to talk to the audience for just a second.
Many of you fax us newspaper articles, information, newsletters.
Some of you send this stuff through the mail.
And I've got to tell you right now, anything that we get that does not specifically state the source, the location, the page, the section, all of these things that we're talking about here, we never use.
You're wasting your time if you send us something that we cannot find.
If you just send us a page with writing on it, or you clip out an article in a paper, and you don't write the name of the paper, the date that the paper came out on, the page that this article appeared on, or the section in the page of the newspaper, it just goes into the trash can because we can't use it.
Everything that's ever sent to us, we farm out to a CAGI member, or else I do the research myself, or Carolyn does it.
And it must be duplicated by us so that we know it's genuine before we ever use it.
If you are not willing to do that for us when you send these things to us, then don't bother sending them.
Recently I got several pages Xeroxed from a book.
Whoever sent these pages to us had very carefully cut out the page numbers and the name of the book on the pages before he sent them.
Why he would ever do that, I don't know.
However, since I've read The Two Babylons, I recognize that these were pages from the book The Two Babylons, and since we have the book, we didn't need it.
But why would anybody do something like that?
Why would anybody send us information that would not reference the source?
Well, folks, sometimes it's because you don't know to do that, and you think you're doing us a favor.
And sometimes it's a completely fraudulent document with the intention of getting me to use it in order to discredit William Cooper, Kaji, and the Hour of the Time.
It'll never work, because if we can't duplicate the research, folks, it's never used by Kaji, by William Cooper, or by the Hour of the Time.
Paul, you recently took a trip.
Where'd you go?
I was in Washington, D.C.
You were in the mouth of the beast.
And did you have some interesting experiences while you were there?
Yeah, very interesting.
Would you like to recount some of the more interesting?
Yeah, I'd like to throw one other thing out real quick on our research and stuff.
What still I find astonishing is that I did rather well in school and I went to a private school thankfully because my parents sacrificed for that.
But what surprises me is that I have not met one person to this day Who knows what exists in the libraries and how to find it in person.
I find it so fascinating that there are thousands of government documents.
They have years and years of government documents on weather control and all these different subjects that exist.
That astonishes me that we were never taught any of this in school.
I find that very interesting.
It was really frustrating at first.
I remember one of the first nights I was in the library.
I used my calling card and I called Stan and I asked him.
I said, you know, I'm having difficulty finding this because we have the Newer United States Code.
He told me, he said, look in Title 22 and he kind of walked me through it and sure enough it was there.
At first it was really frustrating.
It was a lot of hard work but I believe we have to know what's going on and we have to have the facts when we talk to people.
The more a person works with it, the easier it gets to be and now most things I can walk I put my finger on things pretty easily, but ironically in Washington, and this is nothing against librarians at the Library of Congress, but there are some exceptional librarians there.
Unfortunately, they don't work every day.
It was really interesting in the law library section.
I was asking them actually what is a charter and how it's issued by Congress and what are the rules and how a person can find that and they didn't know.
That's something I had to pursue on my own.
I had another lead from a friend and I had to go through the Judiciary Committee on that.
It's just because a person may not find the answer they're looking for at that time.
You've got to come in from different angles, different perspectives.
You've got to keep digging until you find it or until you prove that whatever lead you're going on is not an accurate lead.
That was interesting.
It was interesting, too, as everything was shut down conveniently for the weather.
Up here, we just had a week of 35 below, and it's cold.
But down there, they're a bunch of socialists.
They're more than willing to get a free day off.
But when we were down there, we paid a little visit to the House of the Temple, which is ironically 13 blocks directly north of the White House, and in a perfect square with Washington, real bliss, with the Capitol.
And it's a very interesting Very interesting building.
Now, many of our listeners don't know what you're talking about.
Some of them are new listeners.
Just exactly what is the House of the Temple, Paul?
The House of the Temple is the head building of the Supreme Council of the Southern Jurisdiction of the Scottish Rite of the Thirty-Third Degree.
I didn't know it existed.
I lived out in Washington for a while, and until I started tuning in to you, I had no idea what the Secret Societies were, and obviously the Masons.
I didn't even know that place existed until I ran into someone who said that, and I made it a point to visit there the next time I went to Washington, and we did visit.
Ironically, when you see the outside of the building, there are two sinks in front.
One has its eyes wide open, and one has its eyes semi-closed or semi-open.
According to the tour guide, they're symbolic of power and knowledge, and you can't have
one without the other and vice versa.
And the temple is shaped...
Now, wait a minute.
Did you hear that, folks?
Power and knowledge, and you can't have one without the other.
My people perish for lack of knowledge.
Go ahead, Paul.
Okay.
And you'll notice that the temple is shaped on the top.
It's a pyramid without a capstone on it, but there's 33 columns on the outside, and they're
all 33 feet tall.
And the walls, as you go in the temple, on the front door on the knocker, the lion's
head, okay, on each door...
And as you go in the walls are 8 feet thick of solid marble.
I believe it's marble or granite.
8 feet solid thick.
And what's interesting is as you go in there, the tour guide had an interesting comment.
He said that what the Mason's teach is freedom of thought, freedom of speech, and freedom of action.
Which is an interesting freedom that's added.
That's right.
Very interesting because you and one of your guests, Ralph Epperson,
Hey, Ralph Epperson, we're on.
You very clearly pointed out the freedom of action.
And as you go in, they are willing to let you take photographs.
They're willing to let you actually do a movie or a video camera.
There's one room they won't let you do that in, and that's J. Edgar Hoover's room, who was a 33rd Degree Antonite Templar, among other things.
But they show different pictures of major people who were Masons.
The symbology, they come across like they're a very benevolent group and I've documented in Albert Pike's book, Morals and Dogma, he has his own special room there and his body is buried at the temple.
That's right, his body.
General Christopher Albert Pike is buried in the house of the temple.
Exactly.
And what's interesting is I did find Morals and Dogma at a library but conveniently some of the pages have been cut out.
But besides the point, it's very clear that the first three degrees, he's very clear in his book about that.
They don't know what's going on.
The tour guide and the few masons I meet, they come across like they're a very benevolent, charitable organization.
If a person didn't know the secret underlying truth as to what the 33rd degrees and higher know, They probably would be awestruck with the whole temple, but thankfully, the symbology is everywhere.
The serpents, as you look on the outside of the temple, looking in on three sides, you'll see the rising sun with the double-headed eagle, which is the new symbol of the coat of arms for Russia.
It's on their new coin, the double-headed eagle.
And you'll also see the serpents.
What's fascinating inside, Sometimes, Bill, maybe you should have someone go into a video and then you can make that available like the Hotel Luxor.
Luxor, yeah.
Yeah, because I think people, I mean, it confirms everything that you've said about the secret societies, but one of the most astonishing things, it's no matter where we turn, we keep finding these people.
They were rather excited because they have a Masonic apron and it's a very special Masonic
apron.
The picture that we see of the man standing on the moon in the space suit is conveniently
holding this Masonic apron.
Now wait a minute, let's go back.
Which photograph are you talking about?
I'd have to, I'm trying to remember which one it is.
He's just standing there facing the viewer.
Is he holding the flag or anything?
I don't recall if he's holding the flag.
All I know is he pointed out he was holding the Masonic apron, and you can see it clearly in the photograph that's going in the compass, if you look.
And that's what blew me away, so I didn't even notice.
All I noticed, it was, you know, when I grew up in school, that is the common picture.
We saw the man standing on the moon.
And what floored me was his letter was there.
He's a 33rd degree Mason, and I'm not familiar with... That was before my time.
If you mention the name, I'm sure I can tell you exactly who it was.
He had a letter there.
He was a 33rd degree Mason.
And I don't know what the big deal was.
Maybe they exposed it to the moon atmosphere or something.
But it's clearly visible in the picture.
And they have it on display, the picture showing this.
And they have the actual apron there, too.
They also have President Bush's, some of his cufflinks with Vice President Quayle.
They had a couple letters from Mrs. Bush.
Albert Pike has his own room just like J. Edgar Hoover, and he supposedly has over 400 or 500 actual writings or works, and morals and dogma were everywhere in that room.
The library is open to the public, and the library is just loaded with Masonic literature, and anyone can go read this stuff and find it for themselves.
It's clear.
Now can you imagine how much power they had in the United States and in the world?
With J. Edgar Hoover, a 33rd degree Freemason, hand-picking the agents for the Federal Bureau of Investigation, digging up dirt on all the people in office throughout this country, and then paying them a visit and telling them, hey, we got this, this, and this on you, and if you don't go along with us, you're sunk.
Now, we know that happened because It has been revealed throughout the years that that's exactly what J. Edgar Hoover did.
And this, ladies and gentlemen, accounts for a lot of the actions of the Federal Bureau of Investigation in recent years.
And with Randy Weaver, with Gordon Call, up on Whidbey Island, with the MOVE With the Sibbenese Liberation Army, which by the way was created in a mind control experiment in a prison system in California, which was documented, folks, by the Napa, by the Napa Sentinel, and the most recent debacle, the massacre at Waco, Texas.
What else did you find, Paul?
At the Masonic Temple or the Library of Congress?
Anything!
I did find a couple books at the Library of Congress with the 13th Amendment stated word for word.
They were in the rare book collection.
So they have, in fact, taken the real 13th Amendment from the Constitution and substituted it with something else.
Exactly.
And what's interesting is that You know, the problem I have with that is the Constitution, in my eyes, is the highest document in the land, and it's nothing to be tampered with.
And all the research we've dug up on that, it sure looks like it's been tampered with.
And what's fascinating is very few, if any of us, knew anything about it.
That's right.
These people are, in fact, traitors.
Exactly.
And the people have to realize, they better look up the word treason, and they better learn.
When I grew up I used to respect Americans for having a backbone and standing up for what's right and being brave and courageous and all I can say is they better look up the word treason and they better start realizing which politicians and I've talked with a lot of them personally and there are very few unfortunately that are on our side.
They know exactly what's going on and they've been part of it.
I mean in the documentation you'll find the most current records we have found on the Updates on Public Law 87297, which is talking about a complete and total disarmament.
Conveniently, some of the voting records don't exist.
But the people better realize how their own representatives in the House and Senate are voting on these things and make them accountable.
And if they're selling out the country, get them out of office and get some decent people in.
Because this is flat-out treason and they're getting so bold.
You know, you go through all this documentation, Bill, the people are going to start realizing how bold they are.
A lot of these newspaper articles, I got leads from other people, and some of them I just ran across skimming through the papers, and they are very bold.
I should just mention to you, it's on its way.
On front page, Washington Times, December 15th, the new army manual that comes out next month shows our troops literally under the United Nations.
And it's about time people realize that.
You know, our troops in Desert Storm, Desert Shield, whatever they want to call it, there were no insignias on those vehicles.
Desert Scam is the real word.
There they go.
That's exactly what it was.
And I have George Bush's exact quote from the weekly compilation I just got back, where he said that Desert Storm, whatever war you want to call it, that was implementing the New World Order, was the word from a government printing, government printing office document.
And the people, I mean, The documentation is all available.
The key is now we've got to start moving ahead and start realizing that traders, they have to be taken out of office.
If they're scared about doing that, they better reflect back on it.
Russia and Communism and Socialism, they better understand what it is in their mind, and they better start reading Gorbachev's own book called Terror Striker, which some of it's in the documentation, where he is openly a socialist, he is openly a communist, and he just happens to have an office on the Presidio, the oldest running military base in the United States in San Francisco.
And anyone can go get his phone number out of the library, They can write him and find out who's on his board, which is interesting, as a bunch of congressmen, ex-congressmen.
And ex-high officials of the United States government, I might add.
Yes, very high.
And he is listed as an official advisor to the President of the United States of America.
And in his book, he states, don't be fooled by the dissolution of the Soviet Union.
And one interesting comment I might add, when you get into the State Department document with us, when Gorbachev and Reagan signed the INF Treaty, you'll find in the fine printer that Mr. Schultz even says he read Gorbachev's book.
That's right.
So he's very aware of what's going on.
That's right.
And he's conveniently on the advisory board.
But the people better realize, I mean, Gorbachev is more than clear and open as to what he's doing.
It's the one world order.
If they think this is painful, well they better project themselves into the future into a socialist, communist, police state.
This is heaven compared to what they're going to start facing down the future.
I'm not leaning on anybody's parade.
When they start reading the actual government documents and start digging for themselves, it's a rude awakening, but it's true, and we've got to wake up.
That's right, and we're out of time, Paul.
I want to thank you very much for being our guest tonight.
I want to thank you so much for all the work that you've done, most of it unsung, in libraries, at tables late at night, and the sweat that you've put in for this country.
I think it's going to go a long way to help liberate us.
For our Bill of Rights.
Right.
Ladies and gentlemen, form your militia units.
There will be no political solution to this, ladies and gentlemen, and you will not find relief in the courts.
Good night, and God bless each and every one of you.
God bless you.
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