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July 19, 1993 - Bill Cooper
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Billy Goodman
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For during this hour, you will decide your future and thus our collective futures.
I'm your host, William Cooper.
How many of you out there used to listen to the Billy Goodman happening on KVEG out of Las Vegas, Nevada?
Did you ever wonder what happened to that show?
Well, stay tuned, folks, because my very special guest tonight is Mr. Billy Goodman.
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Those of you who remember the Billy Goodman happening on KVEG would recognize the signature of that show anywhere.
You never knew what was going to happen and there was usually something always about Elvis connected with it.
In fact, Elvis Presley Jr.
was a guest a couple of times and there was always raging conjecture as to whether Elvis Presley was really dead or really alive.
Aside from that, folks, there were some very serious subjects discussed and talked about on the Billy Goodman Happening.
It was a pioneering radio show.
He talked about things and his guests talked about things that were not allowed to be discussed anywhere else.
Ladies and gentlemen, I used to be a guest on the Billy Goodman Happening and now we've gone full circle.
Billy Goodman tonight is my guest.
Well, here's our real switch, ladies and gentlemen.
Welcome to the Hour of the Time, Mr. Billy Goodman.
Well, thank you, Bill Cooper.
It really is a switch.
How do we all begin?
At one time, you're calling my radio show way back when, and now look at this, all the way full circle, like four years later, you're interviewing me, and it's a pleasure to be here this evening.
Well, thank you, Billy.
It is a pleasure, I can assure you, to have you as a guest on the Hour of the Time.
When I first heard of you, you were broadcasting really late at night.
I think about midnight or one in the morning or something.
Later you switched to an earlier time, but in the beginning you were late night on KBEG in Las Vegas.
That's correct.
At that time you didn't call your show The Happening.
I forget what it was.
What did you call it then?
The Thing.
The Thing.
That's right.
It was Billy Goodman's Thing.
And people kept telling me that you were talking about things that nobody talked about.
And to me, who talked about things that nobody talked about, this was extremely interesting.
So I played with my AM radio, and I lived in Ports in California then, to see if I could get your show, and I got it when it was really hard to hear.
But I got your show, and I listened, and I heard your telephone numbers put out.
So I called a couple of friends and asked them what they thought.
Should I call you and talk to you?
And they said go for it.
So I did and the rest is history.
Tell us about it.
It is an impact on our listening audience.
I'll never forget it.
That happens with talk shows, especially call-in type talk shows.
I have found that over the years certain people That's right.
I don't know what it was and that is what you wound up with, your own following.
To the point where they said, hey Billy why don't you bring this man to Las Vegas.
We would like to meet him.
Bring him somewhere we can all get to meet him personally and then we brought you over
to the showboat.
I remember that in Las Vegas.
That's right and before that I had been traveling sometimes as far as a thousand miles to speak
to free people if we could get free people in the living room somewhere and of course
I had to pay my own expenses and everything.
They would put me up for the night but not too often and of course nobody contributed
anything to it.
You got treated fairly well with the promoters in Las Vegas didn't you?
Absolutely.
But that was really something Billy.
When I went to Las Vegas and looked out over that audience and there were two people.
That's correct.
there and there were so many people showed up they had to be turned away from the door
and so I had to do another three hours back to back so I stood up there for six hours
talking. And you know they still talk about that at the showboat in Las Vegas because
there was no advertising done other than on the Billy Griffin happening. That's correct.
That was it. I remember talking to a man's name off hand but he used to call me and say
i cannot believe it the phone calls are coming from all over the country
Can they hear you in Virginia?
I don't know, but the tapes were being sent out all over the country.
Not only the country, Billy.
No one else was doing it, I guess, and they heard the name Bill Cooper.
It was quite a list of guests.
We had, what, you and Bob Wright, and we had that young man, Brad Kleitz, and we were talking about the Cashless Society.
We called it the VIP panel.
That's what it was.
VIP panel.
What a lineup.
The turnout was phenomenal.
As a matter of fact, I talked to one of the girls who worked at the showboat, and she said she had worked at the Hilton Hotel back in the heyday of Elvis Presley.
She said that was the only time she could remember such an immediate response from the announcement that this was going to occur at the showboat.
And it should be noted, folks, the showboat is not one of the best places in Las Vegas, let's be honest about it.
It's off the strip.
It's not easy to find, but it was totally sold out.
They all came out to see Phil Cooper.
The rest of the gang, it was a wonderful, wonderful night.
But KVEG was a 50,000 watt station, wasn't it?
Yes, it was.
And you did go out to about, what, 10 or 11 stations?
10 or 11 stations, Bill Cooper.
Can you imagine that?
As a matter of fact, in California, the Los Angeles Daily News, they are special because
they took some kind of a rating and I was rated number three in the Los Angeles market
with about 33 million listeners they said.
I would listen to talk shows out there and even KNBC came up from Los Angeles and USA
Tonight and they all followed through on it because it was such a big story.
The main theme of the Billy Goodman happening was UFOs.
UFOs, plus you talked about a lot of other things too.
It wasn't just UFOs.
That was the main theme.
We were getting all the reports from all over the world on UFO sightings.
It was almost like a nightly dream.
And of course it spun off into the government conspiracies, the New World Order.
Nicola Tesla?
Another main theme.
Let's not forget that.
Nicola Tesla was a big one and I still follow that one very, very closely because I think that's one of the most important topics of the day right now.
Very popular subject.
I don't know, Bill, where you are.
Are you having any trouble with the powers that be feeling they have to turn off the lights in certain sections because they can't afford the electricity bill on your area?
No.
Believe it or not, here on the East Coast, they've already done it.
They're actually turning off lights.
Because they can't no longer afford to pay the electricity bill.
Wow.
On main highways, for 20 mile stretches at a time, no lights.
That's incredible.
That could be something that could spread across the country because it's just too expensive now.
We're in the area that except for the drain of the power that's sent to California is having over abundance of dams and rivers and power.
California takes a lot of the power from our area.
And of course Phoenix uses a lot in the summertime because of the 120 degree heat and all the air conditioners.
But no, we haven't had that problem here.
I understand that a lot of areas in the country are very, very hard hit by this economic, as they call it, a slump.
It's really a depression for those of us who have studied it.
And I predicted, as a matter of fact, that this would happen way back on your show on KBEG, that there would be a depression.
By the end of 1993, and I believe that by the end of this year, it's actually going to be worse.
Well, I've talked to some old-timers, Bill Cooper, and they have told me they think it's worse today than during the Depression.
Because, at least during the Depression, they had jobs waiting for them.
When they reopened, now the jobs have left.
That's right.
Even if things get better, where are you going to go to work?
That's absolutely true.
It's worse than it was then.
People don't even realize it.
I see it every day.
When I do my radio show, I'm on every day Monday through Friday from 3 to 6 p.m.
in case you folks are listening in the area.
3 to 6 p.m.
on radio station W.A.L.E.
in Providence, Rhode Island.
Where we broadcast from, we look out this window and you can see the homeless.
They seem to gather in downtown Providence and they wait for the bus to take them to the shelters.
Bill, I see them every day.
Well, you know, people are hurting.
According to Rush Limbaugh, that's no problem.
Oh, boy!
Rush!
Bill Cooper!
You know, I announce on my show, by the way, I guess you know I do a show every Sunday night now on the same radio station you're on.
Every Sunday night from 11... Is it Sunday or Saturday night?
Sunday night.
Sunday night, okay.
11 to 1 a.m.
East Coast time.
And a lot of listeners I've been calling, you know, they call because I give them my phone number and I tape some of the conversations.
And we're talking about Some of what we can do to improve things and one thing that came up in a lot of the conversations and I said Bill Cooper and I have to get on this case and that is we have to get rid of Flush Lumbaugh because as far as I'm concerned he is a paid political announcement.
That's exactly right.
But you see, he has admitted that.
In fact, he's even gone farther than that.
I've heard him say three times that he's just an entertainer, that you shouldn't take him so seriously, and that if he could get a bigger audience and more money by switching to the liberal point of view, he'd do it tomorrow.
So the people who are listening to him and taking him seriously after having heard that Really, the problem.
Because he's been honest with them.
And I've heard him say this three times with my own ears.
I think that's a cop-out, Bill.
I believe it sincerely.
I know what happened here.
He can come on my show, and I'll go on his show.
I know how he got where he got.
I know all the details behind it.
Because I was somewhat involved in the movement.
We all do.
The National Association of Broadcasters went to their main meeting.
and presented this man to all of these radio stations across the country
to put them in midday not night time like they used to be for all syndicated
talk shows midday
if they were to pick him up they were going to look real nice to the fcc
because this man was established we're talking during the bush administration
now in the senate let's never forget it
Millions of dollars were put behind him.
Millions of dollars of advertising and promotion.
They picked this man and picked this man.
That's true.
Because what he is doing has not changed.
And believe me, he has an agenda and the agenda is to tell you American people out there everything is fine.
That's right.
Don't listen to people like me and Bill Cooper and others who tell you that there are problems and we try to enlighten you.
And more or less we tell you what they really don't want you to know.
But they're facts, and that's the problem.
He'll never tell you these stories.
He won't tell you.
Electromagnetic fields are dangerous to your health.
He will not discuss it.
That's right.
But we know it.
That's right.
In the state alone, they said that they have to bury the wires.
Big deal.
That'll solve the problem.
What they should do is eliminate the wires totally.
We don't need wires.
Look, Tesla proved it many, many, many years ago.
The only reason we have wires, Bill Cooper, is because that's how they collect the money off of us.
Sure.
You can't meter something that doesn't travel through a wire.
That's right.
And so you can't charge somebody for it.
And what's even worse to these people is you can't control it.
You can't shut it off.
You can't shut us off, could you?
If we didn't have any wires, they couldn't shut us off.
We'd have all the lights we need.
We could run all the appliances we want.
and we'd be healthier. That's right. And they don't want that. They simply don't want us to be healthier.
We live through that fact. Now, Billy, your show is on from what time now? Sunday night from 11.
to 1 a.m.
Pacific Daylight Time, that's 8 p.m.
until 10 p.m.
I think that's 0300 UTC to 0500 UTC.
I'm just now learning that, Billy.
I never was a radio person.
all over the world. It's all different time zones.
That's right. Pacific daylight time, that's 8pm until 10pm.
And I think that's 0300 UTC to 0500 UTC. I'm just now learning that, Billy. You know,
I never was a radio person. When I was 16 years old, I don't know if you even knew this,
but I was a disc jockey on the Armed Forces Radio Network in Japan and I had my own show
I love you.
But that was a lot of years ago and it was a lot of fun.
But I had forgotten everything that I had learned and certainly they didn't have UTC time then.
That's why I'm having difficulty hooking up my show.
People don't understand this.
We are doing our own thing, Bill Cooper.
This is a really innovative type thing we're doing.
We do my show like you do your show right from our own home.
That's correct.
This is unbelievable and days gone by you couldn't do this before.
And I'm trying to hook up the telephone line so that people can call in direct, and that's not easy to do.
You know, we're doing the same thing, and we'll be on satellite, back up on satellite.
We were on satellite when we came off, and we'll be back up on satellite pretty soon.
Let's talk network.
Right.
And we also are going to be broadcasting live soon.
Right now, these are taped shows, and my audience knows that.
Right.
But we will be broadcasting live soon.
And the Hour of the Time will also be taking calls from listeners, but we're only going
to do it maybe once every two weeks, simply because the vast amount of information we
have to put out.
Your format is more of an interchange of information between you and your listening audience.
Well, the biggest thing I'm getting on now, Bill, that I don't know if you've been following
is that shooting in San Francisco.
No.
Have you followed that story at all?
No.
His major complaints were against the FDA, the legal profession, and the one thing that put him over the top was monosodium glutamate.
He says that made all of it come to a head according to this typewritten letter.
He says he was one of those people of a 5% of the population.
of the population, that's 12.5 million people, where that poison, he called it poison, monosodium glutamate,
has reached such high levels in their cells that just a minimum amount of more could kill them.
Now, back here in Providence at Radio Station W.A.L.E., we have a doctor, Wynn Jansen, who's on just before me.
It's called the Wellness Workshop, and just yesterday I interviewed him, which I'm going to play on my
international broadcast, You have to hear this one Sunday night.
There's something wrong with taping.
You never know when it's going to come on eventually.
But he makes a statement saying he feels monosodium glutamate is a mind-altering drug.
He developed and said this straight out.
Over the years, I have heard people tell me, including Dr. Evan Johnson Mannequin.
You've heard me talk about him over the years, I'm sure.
A man who was put out of business by the FDA.
He says, be real careful.
MSG and other flavor enhancers because it could affect the cells. This is what this
man is saying in his typewritten letter. It's time someone investigates that. First of all,
are you familiar with MSG Bill? Yes sir. Okay, you know what I'm talking about.
All I know is that several years ago there was a big flap about it and people started cutting back on it and taking it out of food and things like this.
I don't remember exactly what the flap was about but yes there was something attributed to MSG.
I don't remember what it was and maybe what you're talking about now.
If it is true that it is a mind altering drug then that can have far reaching consequences.
Dr. Jensen believes that is why a lot of people are going crazy.
Because the food itself, people would not eat this type of food because it would taste so bland.
You wouldn't want it and it is not good for you.
But when they add the flavor enhancer then of course it takes the palate out.
And then it goes down to the stomach area and then races through the bloodstream without even realizing what is
going on.
That is what he claims anyway.
I feel like I'm interviewing a...
Let's get back to the radio, Cooper.
This is what happens when you're on the radio.
Well, that's okay.
On my show, when I have a guest on the show, the show is for the guests.
I want my listeners to hear what the guest has to say.
They listen to me every night.
They know pretty much what I have to say.
I remember a long time ago on KVEG I was a guest on your show and I was telling people
where they could go to see the spying craft out in the desert near the test site known
as Area 51 at Groom Dry Lake.
I remember an elderly gentleman called and really got on your case for having me on the
show with this nonsense.
I interrupted him and asked him where he lived and he said Las Vegas.
I said instead of doing this why don't you get in your car and drive up there.
It's about 140 miles.
I told him the exact road to take, Highway 93 and turn left on 375 and go up over Hancock
Summit and down in the desert and just look toward Groom Dry Lake and you'll see for yourself.
He was really irate.
He said, No, it's a waste of time.
There's nothing out there.
I wouldn't waste my time.
You hung up the phone.
Well, after that interview that night, I guess starting the next day, you began to receive phone calls from the listeners who took me seriously and really wanted to go.
Why don't you tell our listeners what happened from there?
Unbelievable response.
They all wanted me to put some kind of a field trip together and bring them up to Area 51.
We did.
Well, let's take it step by step.
First of all, we called the powers that be, Lincoln County Sheriff's Department, or they had heard rumors we were talking about on the radio asking people if they wanted to come and sign up with a fax to call in and let us know.
And Lincoln County Sheriff's Department called and warned us not to come up there because we'd be arrested.
And that, of course, just turned me the other way.
I said, well, really?
We're coming.
That fueled the fire.
That was it.
That was the end of that story.
I told the people, we're going.
We're going to fill a bus up, we're going to have people following us up in cars, and we're coming.
And believe this or not, I'll never forget this, when we arrived there, we didn't know what was going to happen.
They escorted us.
They stood with us.
They stayed with us.
They didn't bother us at all.
They thought we were nice people.
And we sat out in the middle of the desert, and we saw some very, very strange goings-on.
That's all I can tell you.
Because you can't see anything because you're so far away from this place.
You can't get any closer than that 29.5 mile marker there on that dirt road.
But what we saw happening up above our heads, seeing these zig-zagging motions of lights in the sky, we had never seen anything like it.
The only other time I've seen anything close to it recently, when I say recently I'm going back to the Iraqi war, I remember watching it on television.
Those lights look familiar to me.
Those lights look familiar to me.
I look at the stuff I saw up in the desert and I can remember them talking about some of these planes that could stomp and go and maybe that's what we saw.
So we'll never know.
You know we'll really never know what we saw but we know that we saw something and we reported it and we had a good time and people still go up there.
As a matter of fact there was a place called I am going to be able to do that. I am going to be able to
do that. I am going to be able to do that. I am going to be able to do that. I am going to
be able to do that. I am going to be able to do that. I am going to be able to do that. I
am going to be able to do that.
I am going to be able to do that. I am going to be able to do that. I am going to be able
to do that.
I am going to be able to do that.
real good optical binoculars and lenses for your cameras.
You can actually see, as I have done, and film these things, and take photographs of these things, and you can see clearly through good optics that they are disc-shaped, they are non-traditional type aircraft, and they do real crazy things.
The best one I've seen on video is the one that Nippon did, the Nippon Television Network.
They did a fantastic job.
They were right to the gates.
They were the only ones, had to come from Japan, to challenge these people of Area 51.
They went right to the gates.
The local television stations, all the ones that came up in the current affair, everybody would come up there.
They'd go just so far and back off from the walk and hunt people.
But not Japan.
They rushed up to the gates.
I loved them for it.
Well, I've got news for you.
We challenged them also and went to the gates.
Wait, did you go to the gates?
Oh, yeah.
We had some real close run-ins with those people.
It really got to be pretty dangerous at a couple of points.
Anyone who knows me knows that if I am within my constitutional rights and within the law, I won't back down.
And I didn't.
In fact, when they finally got the sheriff to come out, because I wouldn't listen to these guys.
I wouldn't do what they were telling me to do.
The sheriff came out.
I berated him for representing these goons from Wackenhut in the United States government when he should have been representing the citizens who voted for him and put him in office.
I've always wanted to ask you, Philco, this is my opportunity.
I've got to have you on the scene right now.
You're taping it.
You have to stop it.
You come from a military background.
That's correct.
I've always wanted to ask you Bill because this is my opportunity.
I'm going to have you on the scene right now.
You're taping it.
You have to stop it.
I've got to buy the spot.
You come from a military background.
That's correct.
And over the years you've become anti-military.
That is also correct.
Not actually anti-military Billy.
I believe that we need the forces necessary to protect us from invasion from someone else.
I do not believe that we should be in Somalia or in the Middle East.
Our Bosnia, our Vietnams, our Koreas, or any of those places because none of those were fought to protect the security of the American people or the United States.
I'm against this tremendous curtain of secrecy known as the National Security Act.
I'm against organizations like the CIA and the National Security Agency.
From what I discovered when I was attached to the Office of Naval Intelligence, I'm totally against any secrecy whatsoever.
Secrecy is an anathema.
In fact, it's against all of the principles of a republic such as ours, a constitutional republic, where the citizens have to have information in order to be able To be the government, we the people, as it was originally planned.
And what all this secrecy does is it hides the actions of these internationalists and allows them to do covertly what we would never allow them to do in the open if we knew about it.
I understand.
And they're not accountable.
Let me understand you even better because I always wondered about that.
I was talking to someone, one of my listeners who called and I asked that question.
The thing I can't I can't totally ally myself with as someone who was in the military because I refused the military.
I was right at the point where at the draft board where the guy said, you got to go.
I said, I'm not going anywhere.
How's that?
You move.
You do what you have to do right this second.
It'll be you and I against the world.
You're not going to convince me to go to Vietnam.
You can forget about that.
I said, I think what you're doing is ridiculous.
And somehow or other, I don't know what it was, but I went out and I became, I think a one why.
whatever that meant or for why I forgot what it was. They said, well we'll get you later on buddy,
get out of here. They never got me. They never got me because I think they knew full well that
you know it was going to be a showdown. I just would not accept the fact, I cannot accept the
fact Bill, or you taught how to kill someone that looks a little bit different than you.
Well not only that Billy, when we were trained and during all of my military training we were taught
that they were not only different from us but they were subhuman.
They were animals.
They were not humans like us, and they deserved to either be ruled by us or die.
And that's what we were taught.
And we were taught to call them gooks and slopes and slants and all of this kind of stuff.
And all of that was wrong.
You see, in those days, I was stupid.
I was asleep, like most of the sheeple in the world.
I was very stupid.
I was reared in a military family.
I was taught that all of this was right and not to question.
Your country could never do any wrong.
Well, the country can't do any wrong, but the people running it can because they're people like everyone else and they're basically flawed and they have their own agendas and the greed factor creeps in and all kinds of things.
And then you have these secret groups that are trying to destroy the sovereignty of nations
and bring about a one world government.
All of these are working to destroy everything that is good.
They use those of us who are stupid and who are sheep and were taught the things that
I was taught as a boy to go out and do their dirty work for them.
Once my eyes were opened and once I understood how foolish and how stupid I had been, I made
a vow to myself that that would never happen to me ever again and I would spend the rest
of my life trying to open the eyes of the other people who are asleep that I call sheeple.
And you did a good job of that.
Boy, I sure hope so because it sure is hard.
The message has to be, I think what you're stating, is to let the people know exactly how the military operates because I don't think people really understand it.
No, they don't.
This is a very devastating type of thing for a young man to go through.
Yes, it is.
Boot camp is actually a brainwashing procedure that strips everyone who goes through it, completely strips them of their previous identity and personality and gives them a symbolic death and then the symbolic rebirth.
It's the same thing as the secret societies.
They are then initiated into an organization To which they become attached by this initiatory process and they don't even realize it for the rest of their lives and that's what makes veterans groups so close together and so special to the veterans is that they've all gone through this initiatory process.
They've suffered a symbolic death to their previous life.
They've been reborn into the life of a warrior and that sticks with them for the rest of their life because in truth they have been brainwashed.
Well, it's time to take our break, folks.
Don't go away.
We'll be right back with Billy Goodman after this very short pause.
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And this is how they coerce whole generations into keeping quiet about the crimes of the generation that went before them.
Isn't that incredible?
Believe me, every time I was interviewing a next Vietnam soldier, I remember how he described it to me.
I'll never forget it.
He says, when he finally arrived in Vietnam, he says, well, if I was stupid enough to wind up here, now what I have to do is protect myself.
That's all he could think about.
Because I'm stupid enough.
And that's the exact word he used.
I was stupid enough to put myself in this position in so many words.
Now I have to do something to get home.
That's right.
And he had to kill and he had to protect himself and he had to be part of the gang.
He was describing how they would sit around in the trenches and discuss how many they killed or how many they wanted to kill.
And I asked him straight up, did you ever, ever see the enemy?
No.
And the way he described it to me, it was almost like a game.
In other words, they would go out into this fire zone And they would push the North Vietnamese back a little bit.
They would go back to the rear.
Another guy would go up in the fire once a month, I guess it was.
He'd be up there for about a week.
I forgot how to describe it.
Sure, and when you left, they all came back.
Exactly.
That's exactly right.
In other words, they never came to the rear.
I said, how come they never attacked the rear?
If they really wanted to destroy the American soldiers, so to speak, why didn't they try to come in and go Through the fire zone, I think they were trying to attack the rear.
They seemed to stop there.
Well, that's not really true.
In some places they did attack fire bases and home bases and airfields and things like that.
But it only once, didn't it?
During that Tet Offensive or something?
It was the only time that they really did any of that, I understand.
Well, as a concerted countrywide effort, yes.
But there were small actions everywhere.
There was a guerrilla war and there really was no front and there was no rear.
Where I was at, we reached the same conclusion, myself and my crew members on my patrol boat, We got to the point where we were fighting to keep each other alive and to hell with everybody else.
We would go up river every night and fight these unbelievable battles on this river.
We had one particular unit that was our arch enemy, and I forget the number of it, but it was the Sapper Regiment that was headquartered just across the DMZ, a North Vietnamese Army NVA Sapper Regiment, Naval Sapper Regiment.
Their job was to interdict the river traffic that took supplies from Da Nang up to the
DMZ and then up to Takon River to Dong Ho Quang Tri.
These supplies ultimately ended up supporting the effort at Kaesong and everybody who was
attached and stationed along the DMZ and on the Takon River.
Our home base was Kwa Lian.
We would go up every night and fight these incredible battles on this river.
Then every morning we would go back in and leave the river unguarded.
It was insane, Billy.
Everything that we did there was absolutely insane.
We were forbidden to fire toward the South Bank unless we had permission to do so.
That's right.
And we could fire at anything that moved on the North Bank without permission.
And so the enemy knew this so they would cross the river to the South Bank and ambush us.
That was the game.
Yes.
That's right.
And I finally figured out how to deal with that.
There is a Navy regulation that says if an independent unit commander is separated from
communication with his immediate superiors, he may take independent action to save his
vessel and his crew.
You turned it off.
No, I didn't turn it off.
I would shoot my own radio right off the boat.
And then we would take the action necessary.
You said when you were a soldier and a warrior you wanted to destroy them, correct?
Well, not destroy them.
We wanted to survive.
You see, when we were attacked we couldn't leave the area because they...
You couldn't leave the area because they were not letting you around, could you?
No, they would put mines in the river and then the next night we would have to go up
the river and we would be blown out of the water.
So we had to stay and fight.
It was a catch-22 situation.
If you leave, they mine the river.
When you come back, you get blown up.
So we had to fight.
There was no way around it.
If we didn't fight, we died anyway.
And mines were a terrible thing.
I certainly cannot speak...
I was not there.
I can only relate stories that were told to me.
Every time I've asked, and I'll ask you the very same question, did you ever see the enemy?
Yes, we did.
You actually saw them eye to eye?
No, not that close.
We could see them.
No, when we saw them... You saw them moving in the fields or something?
Yeah, you have to understand, we always fought at night.
I never fought a daylight action except once and that was in the Da Nang Harbor in what was called Isabella Cove.
They were trying to interdict the railroad tracks there and I had that section of patrol on the coast and we discovered them and took them under fire.
Now we could see clearly that they were Vietnamese and what they were doing and everything.
That's the only daylight action I ever had.
All the other action I ever had was at night.
And we could see them through starlight scopes and we could tell that they were men and they were carrying weapons and that they were not on our side because of the way they were dressed and the weapons they were carrying.
Were they men or children?
Well, a lot of them were boys and some of them were men.
We never found any old men, but we did capture, and this was very interesting, we captured two tiny... I think the fact remains though, they had a legitimate beef against us.
Well, the beef wasn't even against us.
We came in in the middle of their beef.
What they wanted to do was unite the two separate portions of their country.
And all of a sudden we come in and say, uh uh uh, we don't want that.
Yeah.
And they wanted to hold nationwide elections and elect their own government, their own leader.
And here we were over there stopping them from doing this.
And I had great respect for the Viet Cong and the NBA.
They were terrific fighters and they used They had very little equipment.
When you would capture someone or collect the bodies after a firefight, they had just a little rice pouch on what served as a belt, which sometimes was a rope and sometimes was a piece of leather.
What they were doing would be the very same thing we would do if we were invaded.
That's correct.
That's the difference.
I'll never forget what Fletcher Crowdy told me one time in an interview.
He said, at the end of the war, he remembers seeing all of this equipment.
and he saw it, some of it was being sent over, instead of shipping it back to the United States,
a lot of it was being shipped to two places, he found out.
North Korea and Vietnam.
This is the end of the Second World War.
I don't know if he's ever told you that story.
It's almost like they pre-planned the next two wars.
I read somewhere that the United States government, at the end of World War II,
actually turned over a lot of arms and ammunition to Ho Chi Minh.
Yes, I said, as we say, it turned over to them and the other guy over in North Korea.
Yeah.
For future war, I guess.
I don't know what the reason was behind it.
Well, we know what the outcome was.
Oh boy, oh boy.
I was going to tell you something that most people don't know and it never made the press.
We captured two Chinese communist officers who were acting as advisors to this naval sapper regiment that was always trying to
interdict our river and destroy us.
And we sent them down to our headquarters, Naval Security and Intelligence, which was
Camp Carter and they became gardeners there.
I don't know what happened to them, eventually whether they were repatriated back to Communist
China or whether we left them there when we pulled out of Vietnam or what.
It was really strange to walk into Camp Carter to confer with my commanding officer and see
these two Communist Chinese officers taking care of the flowers and the lawn.
It was surreal.
It was like this isn't a war, this is Disneyland.
I mean, what's going on here?
Really strange place to be.
And Billy, the worst part about it was coming home.
Coming right out of that war and coming home.
Almost everybody that I knew, including me, you have a tendency to almost lose your mind because the transition is so great from there back to here.
It is actually like being in fantasy land.
Like none of this is real.
Don't these people know what's happening?
But anyway, let's talk about your show.
Who are some of the people you're going to have on your show, Billy?
Well, Travis Walton has stopped by already.
Yeah.
I just interviewed him.
I went to his hometown and we sat in the park and had a nice interview for an hour.
Who are some of the other people you planned to have?
I'm planning on bringing on Fletcher Prouty.
If you don't know who Fletcher Prouty is, Fletcher Prouty is a man.
He played X with his wife in the JFK movie.
He was also the Chief Operating Officer for the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the Kennedy administration.
He has a lot to talk about.
Going back to the Kennedy assassination and how some of the people were told not to show up in it.
Fascinating story.
We'll bring him on board.
Eustace Mullins will be stopping by.
I was with Eustace at Wembley in London.
You're right.
People should hear his story because he believes the same way I do.
It's time for a total collapse of the status quo all over again.
Get rid of the Federal Reserve System and start with monopoly money and see what we can do with it because that's the way it is anyway.
I would caution everybody against a total collapse.
A total collapse results in anarchy and we don't know what kind of a government would arise out of it.
We've got to be very careful about how we handle what's going on.
Absolutely.
If it takes that, I'm willing to give up to get rid of the Federal Reserve System.
We've got to get rid of them.
I'm going to have to wipe out this IRS.
Well, that would go with the Federal Reserve System.
Or at least get it straightened out to the point of making them understand.
The way I understood it, and I want to do a special happening on it, is the initial Reason for taxes was in time of need.
That was it.
Where they had to raise some funds in time of need.
And the monies would come from individuals who made money off of others.
That's the way taxes were supposed to be.
Which simply means, I guess, corporations.
Or businessmen.
If they make money off of others, they would take those withholding funds and they would send them into the IRS.
That's how it's supposed to be working.
Now it seems though, every single way you turn, they're taxing us.
That's correct.
A lot of it is illegal because they're direct taxes.
Direct taxes, that's the word, direct taxes are illegal.
Direct taxes, well, they're not illegal.
They can be opposed upon the states, but not upon individuals or businesses or people within the states.
I think.
But they can... There's a lot of questions that have to be answered, so I hope to bring on...
I did an IRS special in Las Vegas.
I'll never forget it.
Within an hour, they ran out of the studio.
They ran out of the studio.
The IRS ran out?
We had a revenue officer, a public affairs director, a consumer protection division, and the questions that these listeners were asking them, they could not answer.
Certain things that come out of their actual handbook, it says that Income tax is based on voluntary compliance.
That's correct.
Voluntary compliance.
That's right.
That means to me, if I volunteer and I wish to give you something, fine.
Here it is.
I comply.
Here you are.
As opposed to making a mandatory compliance.
Right.
And that's what it has turned out to be.
We are going to do a special on that.
What I wanted to say is that we are getting down to about the last five minutes of the
show and I want to make sure that something comes out because people are always asking
me, you had a huge audience when you were on KDEG.
According to the size of that audience, you should never, never have been taken off the air.
You should still be there now.
In fact, that station management I should have done everything in the world to keep you and promote your show because it had the potential of being the number one rated radio show in the United States and maybe even eventually farther than that because you were reaching up into Canada and down into Mexico.
Everybody wants to know why.
Why is Billy Goodman not still on KBEG?
What happened?
Is that right?
That still comes up, huh?
It still comes up all the time.
Well, I'll tell you the story behind the story.
One afternoon I received a telephone call.
And I'm saying somewhere in the area between 12 and 2 o'clock.
And I was preparing for my show.
I forgot exactly what I was doing.
And they said, you have to come into the radio station.
I said, I can't.
I'm preparing for my show.
I just don't have time.
Well, you better come in.
Because we're making some changes.
So I took a ride down.
I got in there around 2 o'clock for the meeting.
Sat down.
I said, we're changing our format.
So we don't see where you fit in our format.
So it affected immediately your show and canceled it.
Period.
That was it.
End of story.
No more discussion.
People remember at that time, though, that for two weeks they had absolutely nothing on that time slot.
That's right.
It was dead air, folks.
Dead air.
We don't know.
What the real reason behind it was, but we do know today that they are an all sports network.
If that was their intent, we don't know, but today they're an all sports network.
As a matter of fact, they're heard all over the country with their sports shows.
That was what happened and that's how quickly it's done in this industry.
We've done an investigation, Billy, and we've found that this has been happening all over the country.
Ron Engelman, who was the only AM talk show host who seriously and truthfully covered the Waco Massacre, was just recently In Dallas?
In Dallas, Texas.
Wow, that's funny you bring his name up.
They changed the format, just like they did to you.
And they put him in a position where he had no choice but to leave, just like you.
And this is happening all over the country.
Anyone who begins to tell the truth on an AM or FM station is gone very shortly and
the excuse is usually that they are changing the format.
Sometimes they sell the station and sometimes the station is sold for an amount much greater
than what it was ever worth.
Which means somebody with big money is making sure that these things take place.
I wonder how many Americans out there understand how many local radio talk show hosts who used
to handle hundreds of calls in their local area on a regular basis have been bumped off
the air by Rush Limbaugh who spouts nonsense.
He has to be taken off the air.
As far as I'm concerned, I would tell him.
As far as I'm concerned, he can say he's entertaining, he can say he's only fooling, but the verbiage and the dialogue that he puts forth, people believe.
Yeah, they believe it.
People believe it.
People believe everything's just fine.
But I'm the person... There are no problems.
And let's not forget, he was the man that backed President Bush.
He was the man that spent the night in the White House.
He was the man that believed wholeheartedly there was no way in the world that President Bush could ever lose.
He backed a loser, and everybody forgets that.
He backed a loser!
That's right.
That makes him a loser.
Ladies and gentlemen, when you back a loser, you're a loser.
That's correct.
You put your eggs in that basket and that man put every single one of his eggs in that basket because he was in the position he was in because of the Bush administration and the people behind it.
And he backed the loser.
He's lucky he's still hanging on.
Well, he's hanging on because he has this powerful interest behind him, including Warren, and he's still doing a good job for them.
The point I want to make, Billy, is I cannot let the people off the hook.
I cannot accept nor condone the sheeple factor.
People have an obligation to themselves, their family, and the nation to find out what the truth is and not listen blindly to somebody tell them what they should believe or what the truth is.
When they do that, they are, in fact, in my estimation, fools.
are helping to destroy everything that we need to be protecting and building up and bringing back.
Well, the part of the Constitution that says it's not only our duty, but our responsibility.
That's correct.
To make sure that the people in power are doing the proper thing.
In so many words, I don't know the exact verbiage, but it's our responsibility.
We have the right to redress our grievances.
Nobody does this!
I don't understand.
I've been urging people in the state of Rhode Island to do this.
Demand accountability.
Demand!
Let them know what they're doing.
They work for us.
America, you know, let's not forget what Bill Clinton said.
I'll never forget the first week when he was in office.
He says, we are your servants.
That man, actually, I couldn't believe when he said that.
That's the first time I ever heard a president say that.
We are your servants.
We are working for you here in Washington.
And I only hope he really means it.
If he does, we could have the right person there.
Well, I think if he meant it, he'd be keeping the promises that he made.
But he's been breaking, darn near every one of them that he ever made.
Billy, we're getting down to the wire here.
I want you to tell people where you're at in Rhode Island.
I want to tell them about your show on WWCR and how they can get in touch with you.
And I need you to do it real quick.
Appreciate it.
Yes, I'm on every day, Monday through Friday from 3 to 6 p.m.
On radio station WALH 990 AM.
If you'd like to call Live On The Air someday, the Live On Air number is area code 401-621-9253.
It'll be live on my local talk show in Providence.
I'm heard every Sunday night worldwide on WWCR and on whatever radio you have out there.
All over the world from 11 AM, 11 PM rather, to 1 AM.
That's every Sunday night.
And you can call me.
We have a special office number.
And as I signed the call between 10 a.m.
and 1 p.m.
East Coast time, we taped the conversation, we played them back on the radio.
And that number is area code 401-724-7441.
Area code 401-724-7441.
If you'd like to write to us, you can write to the Happening Worldwide Network.
Post office box 40035.
I'd like you to write to us.
You can write to the Happening Worldwide Network, Post Office Box 40035, Providence, Rhode Island,
02940.
Thank you, Billy Goodman.
We wish you luck on your new show on WWCR, and I encourage all of you listening to tune in Sunday night, 8 p.m.
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