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April 28, 1993 - Bill Cooper
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And our agents of the Citizens Agency for Joint Intelligence continue to dig out and reveal the truth of what really happened in Waco, Texas.
And tonight, you're going to hear the sum total of everything that we have learned.
Some of it we have been intentionally holding back until the right time, and folks, this is the right time.
In the beginning, the only thing that the American public knew was that all of a sudden, on CNN and on other networks, we saw a raid taking place against a church in Waco, Texas, a church that was called a cult.
Its leader was said to have several wives and twenty-some-odd children from these seven or eight wives.
He was said to be a child molester, a child abuser.
All of this was told to the American people.
And the reason for the raid, dear listeners, as we sat transfixed by the horror of what we were observing on our television sets, people being killed on both sides, we were told that the United States government, in the form of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, had raided this church based upon a tip from a foreign source, from a source outside of this country, that David Koresh and his followers in the church, Ranch Davidian in Waco, Texas, were about to commit mass suicide.
We have tracked down the origin of that rumor, and we know this much about it.
Number one, it wouldn't have made any difference if David Koresh and his followers were going to actually commit mass suicide or not.
The federal government had no jurisdiction in Waco, Texas.
or anything involving suicide of one person or two hundred persons.
It is outside their jurisdiction.
In fact, the revelation of the plan to commit mass suicide was a propaganda ploy aimed at gathering public opinion on the side of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.
This raid had been well planned far in advance.
In fact, the Cult Awareness Network, consisting of kidnappers and deprogrammers, it's called CAN, the Cult Awareness Network, which has MK-Ultra doctors on its board.
Remember, MK-Ultra mind-controlled experiments using drugs, hypnosis and other mind-controlled techniques.
MK-Ultra was conducted by the Central Intelligence Agency.
Now, remember, the Cult Awareness Network comes right out, right out of the ADL, the JDL, the B'nai B'rith, and all of these were created branches of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry.
All of these.
The cult awareness network, folks, is notoriously mercenary.
and is deployed on a regular basis on behalf of intelligence agencies.
And the original tip, folks, came from an ADL, that's Anti-Defamation League, connected intelligence agent in Australia named Jeff Hasek.
Hasek is paid for by Melbourne-based World Jewish Congress co-chairman E.C.
Liebler and friends.
Hasek had been working for years in investigations of the Branch Davidians, who have recruited heavily into Australia, Great Britain, and Canada, as well as the United States.
And Hasek was an individual who claimed that sect leader David Koresh was about to implement a plan of mass suicide, and thus provided the public relations trigger for the federal police assault in Waco, Texas.
Now, don't get me wrong, folks, as you've heard me say on this program many times, it is not the Jews as a people, the Catholic as a people, the Orientals as a people, the Hispanics, the Blacks, the Protestants, or any other group.
The powerful forces and organizations that are bringing about the change in the world today and orchestrated the murder of an entire church full of people in Waco, Texas, has members belonging to every group and every people and every race that you can think of.
They are collectively known as the Illumined Ones or the Illuminati, Mystery Babylon, the Mystery Schools.
It is the old ancient religion of the worship of the sun outwardly To the esoteric, to the ones who know, it is the worship of the intellect, the mind.
The Cult Awareness Network, the Anti-Defamation League, B'nai B'rith are all organizations created and controlled by the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry.
Make sure you understand those things.
What happened in Waco, Texas, was this.
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The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms obtained a warrant to search for illegal weapons.
Named in the warrant was David Koresh.
As soon as they realized that they were losing the battle The BATF sealed the warrant so that the public could not get their hands on any of these warrants.
The reason the warrants were sealed is that the BATF had no authority under those warrants to make a raid on the church known as Branch Davidian.
In other words, to be able to perform the raid which they conducted, they needed a no-knock warrant.
It is a special warrant issued by a judge.
These warrants were just regular, ordinary warrants.
They are meant to be served by officers of the court or officers of the law by knocking on the door, stating that they have a warrant, presenting the warrant, and then going about their duties.
In the past, when warrants had been presented to David Koresh, And there was no reason to believe that the situation would have been any different on that Sunday morning of February the 28th.
But instead of doing what they were required to do by law, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms pulled up in speeding trucks pulling cattle cars loaded with armed flakjacketed agents who immediately disembarked, running and screaming and yelling at the top of their lungs with ladders and placed them against the side of the building, began breaking out windows and shooting indiscriminately.
David Koresh stuck half his body out the front door yelled at them to stop.
He yelled, Let's talk!
There are women and children inside!
For his efforts, he was shot.
And it wasn't too long after that, when he went back inside and closed the door, and the people in the church took up weapons to defend themselves, that David Koresh was shot again.
Altogether, there were only thirty men in the building who took up arms to defend the members of the church.
We do not know if all thirty of those men had weapons or not, but we do know that they were good shots, for they killed four of the ATF agents and wounded sixteen others.
Which, in my book, is a pretty good showing.
Pretty good showing.
The ATF regrouped, retreated to what they considered to be a safe position.
Those trapped behind cover near the buildings were told by the Branch Davidians to leave.
Go!
But they were afraid to come out in the open and leave.
They thought they would be shot.
The people in the church told them to go.
They had no interest in shooting them.
They were only protecting themselves, defending themselves from an attack.
The federal authorities called for a truce to remove their dead and wounded and allow those who were trapped behind cover within killing range of the church to retreat to a safe position.
The Branch Davidians agreed and asked them to remove their dead and wounded also, and to bring them food and water and medical supplies, which they did not need, by the way.
But the ATF said that they would and did not.
They removed their dead and wounded, allowed their agents to escape to a safe position, did not bring out the dead or the wounded from the church, and did not furnish the church members any food or water.
With the first exchange, when the first people came out from the church, David Koresh sent out $1,000 to purchase milk for the children.
The $1,000 was never returned.
No one knows what happened to it.
The milk was not furnished for the children until eventually the local sheriff furnished milk for the children inside the church, and it was sent in, and the containers were bugged with listening devices, all of which, according to Rita Riddle in our one-hour interview with her, And this is the only media in the world that managed to get a one-hour interview with anyone who came out of that church.
And so far, we're the only ones who have dug up the truth and are revealing it to the people of the world.
You might ask the media why that is so.
Then, the ATF publicly denounced The members of the Church of Branch Davidian as terrorists.
This was announced on the news.
The reason for the raid has now changed from the fact that they were going to commit mass suicide to the fact that they were terrorists.
And the press was told that David Koresh and the church members and stockpiling arms and ammunitions, which included .50
caliber machine guns, with which they were going to attack the city of Waco, Texas.
And the American people bought all these lies, one right after another, bought them all,
Not every single one of them.
Somewhere along the line, the charges changed from the reason they attacked was that they were going to commit mass suicide, to the fact that they were terrorists, to the fact that they were child abusers and child molesters, to .50 caliber machine guns, hand grenades, and rockets.
And, folks, all of these were lies from beginning The people in the church were told on the telephone that if they would send some people out, they would be treated well, they would be allowed to make phone calls to talk to their family, to their legal attorneys.
They would be allowed to call back into the church at Branch Davidian and tell the others how they were treated and what was going on on the outside.
So some of them came out, one of whom was Rita Riddle, and you heard her testimony on this broadcast the hour of the time where she was betrayed.
She was taken directly to the county jail and locked up, and then to a halfway house and held prisoner by the Salvation Army.
Can you believe this?
And she was not allowed to call back in to the church to tell the other members what had happened to the ones who'd come out.
Every promise that the FBI and the ATF made to the people in the church was not held to.
They did not keep their promises, so the people in the church stopped believing them.
Stopped believing them.
Rita Riddle told me That if she had known before she came out what she knows now, and she said this before they were all murdered, that she would never have come out of the church.
She told me, and the others who have come out have reached us with their stories, that there was no promiscuity.
That David Koresh did not have seven or eight wives, that there was no child abuse, no child molestation, and that all of the weapons in the possession of some of the members of the church were legal.
We then interviewed the county sheriff who told us that he had personally, him and his people, had personally inspected the weapons held by the members of the church of Branch Davidian And had even taken those weapons from them, and that they were all legal and had been returned to their owners.
We went to the child welfare people in Waco, Texas, who told us that they had been asked by people who had made allegations that child abuse was being carried out against the children of the members of the Church of Branch Davidian, and that these people who asked them to make these investigations were connected with the Cult Awareness Network.
They thoroughly investigated and found no proof, not even a hint of child abuse or child molestation.
They interviewed every one of the children who all denied that they had ever been abused or violated are molested in any manner whatsoever.
Every picture that we were able to see of the children of the church, of the members of the church, every time we saw a picture of these children, the children were smiling and happy and hugging each other and their parents and the other members of the church.
They were not afraid.
They were not unhappy, they were not depressed, they did not exhibit any of the trauma or characteristics or personality traits of children who are abused or violated.
It was all a lie.
All of it.
Janet Reno blatantly lied when she said that the cult, as she called it, had fifty caliber machine guns.
And I believe that I told you on Monday night what a .50 caliber machine gun can do, its maximum effective range, its maximum range, and what a good machine gunner can hit at what range.
We examined the vehicles and the trucks and the tanks and everything that was there, folks.
I fought in Vietnam.
I used .50 caliber machine guns.
In fact, had three of them on my boat.
I was a river patrol boat captain.
I know what they can do.
I know the damage that they do to vehicles and to trees and to people, and there was none of that damage there anywhere.
None of the wounded or dead on the government's side exhibited any, any kind of wound that could even remotely be attributed to a .50 caliber machine gun.
None of the vehicles had marks, scratches, or ricochet signatures of a .50 caliber bullet None of them had holes the size of a .50 caliber bullet, or even approaching that size.
And indeed, if they'd been hit by .50 caliber bullets, none of them would have been driven away, I can assure you.
Also, the Federal forces would have suffered many more casualties than what they did, had those people in the church been using .50 caliber machine guns against them.
There were no wounds of shrapnel from hand grenades, there were no signs of the use of hand grenades, nor rockets of any kind.
Rockets are very effective against vehicles, and none of the vehicles had been hit by a rocket.
Rockets have a pretty good range, folks.
The Federal Forces, and even, even The facilities where the press conferences were held were within range of both rockets and .50 caliber machine guns, and if they had had rockets and .50 caliber machine guns, the BATF, the FBI, the Texas Rangers, none of them would have been located as close as they were, and the press would never have been permitted to attend press conferences within range of .50 caliber machine guns or rockets.
All lies.
All lies.
And the American people bought these lies.
They swallowed the hook, the line, the sinker, and some of them even swallowed the pole.
Despicable, ignorant, stupid sheeple.
Nobody cared the legal reasons why they were there, what was happening.
Nobody challenged their jurisdiction when they said they were there to investigate allegations of mass suicide or child abuse or child molestation, none of which was within the jurisdiction of the federal government, but was strictly a local jurisdiction legal matter.
And all of these had been previously investigated thoroughly by the local officials and had found no Verification or evidence to support any of it?
And that's despicable, that the American people are so stupid that they didn't question any
of this.
Instead, because the federal government made allegations of child abuse and child
molestation, I heard many people say that the members of the Church of Branch
Davidian were weirdos who deserved to die.
you No justice, no trial, no jury of their peers, no chance to defend themselves or to confront their accusers.
Weirdos who deserved to die, and the topper was when the United States government announced that David Koresh, called himself Jesus Christ, something that we were not able to substantiate anywhere.
nobody in Waco, Texas had ever heard David Koresh call himself Jesus Christ.
And Rita Riddle, a member of the church, denied it in our one-hour interview with her, stating
that David Koresh had never said any such thing in the two years that she had lived
and attended and studied with him and the Church of Branch Davidian.
I warned you on my broadcasts that these people were going to be murdered unless we stopped
what was going on, for I knew the real reason that they were there, and it had nothing to
do with any of the stated reasons, nor because of illegal weapons, which they already knew
did not exist.
Thank you.
Don't go away, folks.
It's time for our break.
I'll be right back after this very short pause.
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How could that be when he could sleep and they could all run out the door?
Well, we know that that was a lie also, simply because everyone who has come out from the church has stated that they were there of their own free will.
Not a one of them will admit to having been held hostage by anyone.
They said that they could leave at any time that they ever wanted to leave, but that they stayed on principle.
They had broken no law.
Under Article One of the United States Constitution, they had a right to practice whatever religion they choose, whether you or I or anyone else likes it or not.
As long as in the practice of that religion they broke no laws.
Under the Second Article and Amendment to the Constitution, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed if they have the right to own and maintain whatever weapons they chose.
We have been lied to from beginning All the way through, all the way to the end.
David Koresh said that he would come out after he wrote a book or a series of chapters explaining the seven seals and the opening of the seven seals.
Now, don't ask me what all that means.
You heard what Rita Riddle said about it, that the seven seals were really the Bible in David Koresh.
was one who was able to interpret the Bible correctly, better than anyone else, and thus open the seals.
I am not a member, nor have I ever been a member of Branch Davidian.
I don't know anything about what he taught, nor do I care.
He has a right to teach whatever he wanted to teach, and they all had a right to believe whatever they wanted to believe under our system of government, under our Constitution in the United States of America.
That is our right.
So, it really doesn't matter what the seven seals are, whether or not he could open those seals, or what the people of the church believed that he could or could not do concerning the seven seals.
And, in fact, if you want to know the truth, if you all got so riled up because he was supposed to have seven or eight wives and twenty-some odd children, all of which was a lie, Why don't we have every federal agent that exists in this country in the state of Utah right now?
Why aren't they raiding the Mormon Church for polygamy?
Polygamy, although not discussed publicly very much, is still practiced by the Mormon Church in the state of Utah and elsewhere, and there have been TV documentaries about it.
You all know about it.
Why were you so upset because David Koresh was supposedly sleeping with seven or eight women and had twenty-some-odd children by these women?
What the hell do you care?
And if you do care, why aren't you persecuting the Mormon Church?
Thoroughly investigated by the Texas authorities.
No substantiation?
What?
ever was ever found by anyone.
All of the children have always, and continue to deny to this day, the twenty-one children who managed to get out and were not burned up in the fire, still, right now, right this moment, deny ever having been abused or molested.
In fact, they are incredibly sorrowful that they survived.
Several of them have stated that they wish they had stayed in the church and died with
their parents and their friends, which they call family.
Incredible, you say?
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No, these people exhibit more loyalty, more togetherness and more love as a group Than most people I've ever met in my life.
It takes a great commitment to principle and your religion and your family and your loved ones and your friends to be willing to die for them.
How about you?
Would you die for your family, for your principles, for the Constitution, for your friends, for your church?
I doubt it.
I doubt it.
We'll find out.
Because you're next, you stupid sheeple!
You're next!
And you haven't even got the common sense or the brains to understand what is happening.
And that makes me sick to my stomach.
For now, you're going to hear what happened on that last day, the 51st day.
The hospital in Waco, Texas.
We talked to a nurse who worked there who received the telephone call and she was asked what facilities they had that would be able to handle large numbers of burn victims.
Parkland Hospital in Dallas, Texas was placed on alert.
Its burn unit and its emergency facilities were placed on alert to receive large numbers of burn victims.
And that, folks, that, folks, was broadcast on CNN.
On CNN.
And we have substantiated it.
The FBI claimed that it lost patience, that it didn't have replacement people to come in and replace the people who had been there for fifty-one days.
All lies.
All lies.
that their people were so tired that they couldn't continue.
They lost patience.
At the press conference they stated that an M60 tank with a derrick attached to it was
poking holes into the building and through hoses they were pumping tear gas.
Large amounts of CS gas, tear gas, which everyone who's ever been in the military service has experienced, seen, smelled, We've all been through the tear gas training in Vietnam.
On occasion, we used it.
Tear gas produces, whether from a canister or from a bomb or a shell or whatever it happens to be contained in, a large, initially dense, white, foggy cloud.
They stated that they were pumping vast amounts of CS gas into the church known as Branch Davidian, yet through none of these holes in the building, of which there were a large number, I can assure you, because I saw them, They were pumping large amounts of CS tear gas, yet no, no clouds of tear gas emerged from any of those holes at any time, ever.
And if you don't believe that, you examine the tapes for yourself.
Talk to the witnesses who were there yourself.
Examine it yourself.
Don't take my word for it.
Examine tapes and film made of other Incidences where tear gas was put into a building and you can clearly see clouds of white gas coming out of the windows, the doors, wherever it could escape.
None of that happened at Branch Davidian.
We sent caddy members downwind to see if they could smell any tear gas.
the wind. In the vast amounts that they stated they were pumping CS tear gas into that building,
we should have been able to smell tear gas clearly three miles away with the breeze blowing
as it was. No tear gas was detected, but they did detect something else, folks. On the air
was the clear and unmistakable smell of petroleum products.
When the tank continued to poke holes over several hours, pumping in what they said were
large amounts of CS tear gas, we knew that something was wrong because nobody could stay
inside a building with that much tear gas, being subjected to it for that long a period of
time, would have been many people rushing out of that building,
but no one, I repeat, no one emerged.
We watched as the tank burst through the front door of the building, many hours after they
had started their supposed pumping of tear gas into the building.
Thank you.
And we watched as the tank backed out a fire start right there and spread rapidly as if igniting gasoline or some Super-inflammable material spread throughout the church so quick that, folks, this was not the fire, the product of several small little fires started throughout the building.
It started at one point and spread like lightning.
Almost immediately, the entire building was engulfed in flames, dark red flames, the signature of a petroleum fire, and thick, Huge, billowing, dense clouds of black petroleum smoke.
And still the American people watched, and even though they know that a wooden building
burning does not produce thick, billowing clouds of black petroleum smoke, they watched
and believed what they were told.
Now, I'm going to tell you, ladies and gentlemen, right now, I don't know what the United States
government was pumping into that building, but I can tell you it was not CS-3.
Tear Gas.
I can tell you that there was a heavy smell of petroleum products on the air downwind from the church.
I can tell you that that was a petroleum fire, and anyone who's ever had any experience in firefighting or with petroleum fires knew it at first glance.
It was not the product of a little bit of kerosene spilled from hurricane lamps around in three or four different places to start a fire.
These were thick, dense clouds of black petroleum product smoke burning.
These were not yellow flames from a paper or a wood fire.
These were the dense red scarlet flames of petroleum burning.
If you don't believe it, you get the tapes and watch them for yourself.
Watch the tapes yourself.
Yeah.
Take them to people whom you know are experts on fires, as we have done, and ask them what they see, as we have done.
And everyone that we've taken the tapes to has said that it is a petroleum fire.
These people were murdered exactly as I said they would be murdered.
They were burned alive, cremated.
The most horrible, terrible, painful death.
And the reason they didn't come out, because it was obvious that they were going to be murdered from the beginning.
They had nowhere to go, folks.
Nowhere to go.
And again, they were standing upon principle.
They were willing to die for their God, their family, their friends, and their principles,
their beliefs, their ideals.
They were more American than most Americans.
You Even though you may not agree with their religious teachings, you may not like David Koresh
They had a right to be treated humanely.
They had a right to be given the chance to open their door and say, yes, come in and search these premises.
We have nothing illegal here.
They had a right to confront their accusers.
They had a right to a fair trial with a jury of their peers.
They had no right to be raided, attacked, and burned.
There's no right to be lied about.
President Clinton, in a press conference, made this statement.
David Koresh was having sex with children.
Is there anyone here who would dispute that?
He said.
No one in the audience raised their hand to dispute it, and that is the first and only time that charge has ever been made against David Koresh.
We have not found anyone who ever has said that David Koresh had sex with children.
The Child Welfare Department in Texas has never heard that charge from anyone.
Why did President Clinton deliberately lie to the American people and say that David Koresh was having sex with children?
It was for your benefit, sheeple.
It was so that you would not question what they were doing down there.
It's so that they could have permission to kill those people because they were politically incorrect, and not because they had broken any laws or had been tried and found guilty and was sentenced by a judge, but simply because the United States government wanted them to die.
They wanted to give an object lesson to the sheeple of the nation, and to patriots in particular, and in Christians in general.
And that is this.
If they can convince the American people, and all that takes is a statement to the press, that you are a child molester, or a child abuser, and that you have illegal weapons, they can kill you.
And that when they continually pass their laws, Restricting even further gun ownership.
And when they come for your guns, you had better not resist.
And Christians, you were targeted from day one.
I hope all you sheeple are listening, because you're next.
You are next.
And you're just stupid enough to let it happen.
To let it happen.
I'm watching incredible things happen in this country that just 20 years ago could never have happened.
But they're happening now, aren't they?
I'm going to go back to the car and get my car.
So you have an entire country that allowed a whole church to be destroyed and murdered, and the few who managed to We're all in jail, having committed no crimes, simply because you were willing to believe all the lies that you've been told.
And where you would demand due process of law, in your own instance, you denied it to them.
Oh, here's a child abuser, child bluster.
Had seven or eight wives and twenty-some-odd children?
Had illegal weapons?
Fifty-caliber machine guns?
Yeah, those lunatics deserve to die!
And did you hear, Clinton?
When you stated publicly in a press conference, if you are thinking of joining a cult, or if you are already a member, you had better take this as a warning.
There's more to come, folks.
I said it a long time ago.
We'll escalate like wildfire across the country.
Who's next?
You'd better look around.
You'd better look around and you'd better get ready.
You'd better exercise all your rights.
You'd better have food and water.
You'd better be prepared.
Or, you'd better get rid of all your guns.
Just throw your rights out, make a public statement that you welcome the New World Order, reach down and put the shackles on your own ankles.
And I know that many of you will do that.
Starting tomorrow morning, you will be announcing to your neighbors how attractive it would be to have a one-world government.
And you will justify it and rationalize it in many different ways.
And you will fool some of your neighbors, others of your neighbors you will not fool, and you will never fool me, because I will always know that you are just a bunch of hypocrites, liars, and cowards, and that you were never real Americans to begin with.
Most of you don't even own a copy of the Constitution and know nothing about it.
And frankly, my dear Scarlett, you just don't give a damn.
And except for the real patriots in this country, I am sick to death of most of you.
You make me sick.
Being in Waco, Texas, watching the FBI and the ATF strut their stuff, knowing what really happened there, understanding how easy it was to convince the rest of the country to accept what they were doing, all of it illegal, Listening to the FBI say that when they put in the tear gas, they had no idea what was going to happen.
They stated that the Branch Davidians started the fire, even though it's clear on tape when and where the fire started.
You can see it for yourself.
They stated that the Branch Davidians started the fire, and they had no idea in the world that these people would ever contemplate mass suicide.
Well, folks, they had never contemplated mass suicide, but this statement coming from the FBI was really strange, considering that the first press conference that they gave on the 28th of February was that the reason for the raid was that these people were going to commit mass suicide!
And none of you put it together, none of you even remembered what they said in the first
press conference, and that's why commercials on TV are no longer than thirty seconds, because
that's the normal attention span of the average American adult.
Despicable sheeple.
Thank you.
Who's going to help you when they come for you.
Go back and look at the history of Nazi Germany.
Look at how it all came about, and look at how everyone turned their head and ignored it.
It's coming again, just as I said it would.
And you are all doing exactly what the Germans And everybody else in the world did when it began happening in the thirties in Germany.
You're not under the law of the Constitution anymore.
You are under international law.
The United Nations Charter is taking charge of the world.
And most of you don't even care.
Don't give a damn.
Some of you do.
Some of us do, but not enough, not near enough.
You'd better think about the consequences of all of this, dear listeners, because you are now entering a world where the method to stop a group of people from committing mass suicide is to murder them.
And of course, that really wasn't the reason for any of it, anyway.
Good night, and may God have mercy upon your soul.
I don't know.
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