CPAC Drag Queens, The January 6 Scam, Christian Music Showdown
Adam Yenser returns to delight Kyle Mann and Jarret LeMaster with outrageous stories about the greatest European country on earth: Finland! Then Adam has to come to grips with America's ridiculous news cycle. Did you know that drag queens are all about CPAC now and that Tucker Carlson has been exposing the January 6 insurrection isn't quite what the media has described it to be? But enough about dumb news. We've got to talk about the Christian Music Bracket! WHO'S GOING TO WIN? (Answer: DC Talk) The Weakly News with Adam Yenser makes its triumphant return and we also dig into the mailbag. Subscribers are in luck for an extended mailbag segment as well as always loveable subscriber headlines. Oh, and Jarret is doing a thing! Go see him at his Easter event in Covina, CA: https://luminate.church/iwfc2023 This episode is brought to you by our wonderful sponsors who you should absolutely check out: Abide App: Text 'BABYLON' to 22433 to get 25% off! Making The Case Conference (Kyle will be there): http://issuesetc.org Allegiance Gold: https://allegiancegold.com/bee/ PublicSq on Apple: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/publicsq/id1573823343 PublicSq on Google: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.publicsq.app&pli=1
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Hey, everyone, I'm Kyle Editor in Chief of the Babylon B hanging out with Jarrett LeMaster.
Hey guys.
And Adam Jenser.
Yeah.
Who has to say hello in Finnish?
You know what?
I did not learn how to say that.
You didn't say hello.
Did you learn how to say anything?
Actually, no, I did.
I heard people, it's funny.
They just go, hey, hey.
Oh, hey, hey.
Okay.
I don't know if that's an actual Finnish word or it's just what they say.
How do they say it?
Would they be like, hey, hey.
Hey, hey.
You walk in a store behind a counter or you're just passing somebody.
Hey, hey.
Hey, hey.
Yeah.
How are you?
That's the intonation and everything.
Yeah.
Hey, hey.
Hey, hey.
But it was great.
Finland was awesome.
Are they very serious?
Are they a very serious people?
They're not, I wouldn't say they're super serious.
I did a stand-up show there and it was awesome.
A bunch of fans came out.
There was 10 comics on the lineup.
I think three performed in English, including me, obviously, because I don't speak Finnish.
The host did half English and half Finnish because some people from the tour group that I was traveling with came to the show.
So there's a lot of only English speakers in the audience.
And then most of the people in Helsinki speak both Finnish and English and several other languages.
But I was interviewed by these two guys.
They were great, Otto and Johannes.
I don't know if they're watching, but they work for a Finnish Lutheran magazine online.
They interviewed me about my faith and comedy and the Babylon Bee.
And we went to take a picture and they told me in Finland, we don't smile for pictures.
And they were serious.
I thought there is just, it's just, you kind of stand there and look at the camera.
It's like all those pictures from the 1800s where they had to stand there for hours.
Yeah.
You just had to look.
Yeah.
Just look.
Hold still.
Hold still for this shot.
Finland was awesome.
Went snowmobiling, dog sledding, got to see the northern lights, ate reindeer meat, ate bear meat.
It was quite an experience.
And you said those are both very tasty meats.
Yes, I enjoyed both of them.
Yeah.
They prepare the reindeer.
They have it sauteed reindeer.
They serve it over kind of cut up like chip steak and served over mashed potatoes with lingonberries and pickles.
It was very good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And they call it something really spectacular, like, what is it, reindeer over sauteed reindeer.
Yeah, sauteed react.
Yeah, that's it.
Again, that's the Finnish word.
This is sautéed reindeer.
Hey, hey.
Yep.
Yeah, we were up near the Arctic Circle for a lot of the time.
So everything was frozen.
It was eight degrees out, but it was beautiful.
We did see the northern lights.
Yeah.
Very cool.
It's great to have you back.
They were green.
They got more and more brilliant as the night went on.
We went out around nine and they drive you up north of the Arctic Circle to this frozen lake and you walk out there and it's about 11 degrees to begin with.
And then there's just this Arctic wind of like freezing rain blowing in your face the whole time.
But you wait out there and at first it just looks like kind of hazy white clouds in the sky and they fade and they come and go and you think, oh, maybe that's it.
Maybe that's all we're going to see tonight.
And then around 11 o'clock, it gets brilliant green and they call it a curtain.
It shimmers and waves across the sky.
It's really cool.
Yeah.
That is so cool.
It's cool that the universe evolved in this random manner to create that beautiful exactly.
That's pretty great.
So amazing.
Did you feel like you're on a planet?
It did feel otherworldly.
It felt like I'm on a planet right now.
Sometimes it occurs to you, you know.
I live on a planet somewhere.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Or a flat earth, depending on.
Yeah.
Yes.
That's right.
A disc.
It's still a planet.
It's just a flat one.
Yeah.
Do the flat earthers still call it a planet?
I guess that's, I guess I don't know.
What do they call it?
Like a shell?
A disc head or something.
It's the shell of a turtle.
It's a very large turtle.
Yes, it's turtles all the way down.
All the way down.
It's turtles all the way down.
Compact disc.
Jared.
Yeah.
You have something to promote.
Oh, yes.
So I'm going to be playing Jesus in an Easter play coming up the week right before Easter.
So it's the week of Palm Sunday.
And I've done this show a long time.
They took about five years off.
So I was doing it for like 12 years.
I played a lot of different characters.
I played the devil once.
I played, you know, I think I played Young John one time.
And then I started playing Jesus and I was playing Jesus for about 11, you know, something like that, 11 years.
10 years.
I don't know the math.
I'm not good at math.
But then they took five years off.
Is young John just John when he was young?
Yes.
So there's an old John in the show.
There's like James the Lesser.
I thought there was a Bible character.
You mean little John from John?
I had a staff.
There was this whole fight.
Yeah, it's good old young John.
There he is.
But man, that is range to be able to play Satan and Jesus.
It doesn't get more wide range than that.
No, it doesn't.
Well, and this show is interesting.
There's like lasers, there's donkeys, you know, there's me in a loincloth.
There's that in Mark, the story of Jesus and the lasers.
Yeah, Jesus and the lasers.
Yeah.
He has wheels and that Anthony Hopkins played Hannibal and he also played C.S. Lewis.
Oh, yeah.
So that's a pretty good.
But I still think Satan to Jesus.
Satan a little bit more.
That's like the furthest points on the Linear Hopkins.
His range is here.
My range is much larger than Anthony Hopkins.
No, it's so crazy.
We, you know, there's crazy stuff happens in the show, too.
It's a lot of fun.
You just never know what's going to happen.
It's a brand new.
We've read the Bible.
We know what's going to happen.
Well, I know, but sometimes one time, this is crazy.
One time I was, you know, all these Roman soldiers, they're all beating me up and stuff.
They throw me on the cross and I'm on the top of this set, which is probably already about 15 feet up.
And there's this point in the music where it all kind of like goes.
And Jesus's cross gets like slammed into the ground and it looks like he's like, you know, and it's for a dramatic effect.
And so anyway, one time.
You say blah.
I'm like, I'm like, yeah, that's exactly whether it's religious to portray Jesus as going, ugh.
No, no, no.
So anyway, these guys forgot to put the, so the pin on the right-hand side is, you know, I'm holding on to these two pins.
Obviously, they don't really crucify me.
You don't do the Philippines thing.
Yeah, they usually nail you up.
Or that one's that one movie with Christian.
Yeah, anyway.
So, but they, they kind of catapulted me.
They didn't put the pin in on this side.
So they, they just threw it up.
These big cops, like they're usually all the Roman soldiers are cops, they're really strong guys.
And they just like threw me up and I like flew off of the cross.
Like, I was already like 20, I was already like 25 feet in the air, and I just flew off the cross.
And everyone was like, I was like flying through the air in my loincloth.
I had my wig on.
Like, I'm just like, and I land on the ground and I did this, like, I did this like ninja roll.
That's so stupid.
But I like landed and rolled, you know?
I'm like, I got to break my fall.
I was, you know, so I was like, do, whoo, and I landed like on my, you know, like a surfer.
Surprise.
Surprise, Satan, I'm back.
I'm back.
The crowd gasp, we didn't see this coming.
No, the crowd gasped.
Literally, they were all like, Jack can fight CD.
Jesus isn't supposed to do that.
He's just supposed to go blah.
So I stood up and I'm looking at the whole scratch.
The scripture says blood.
The cast.
Okay, none of the people in the cast that are extra.
They're not actors, so they don't know what to do.
I don't let me know if you're an actor, if you'd know what to do if Jesus got catapulted.
But we land on the and I get there and everyone's just silent.
Like the entire place is just looking at me, staring.
And I'm staring at everyone else too, because I was very surprised by the whole experience.
And so I look out at the congregation and I was like, I'm okay.
I'm okay.
And I turned around and I climbed back up because nobody could climb back up on there.
Nobody knew what to do.
And so I was like, okay.
I just like threw my arm around.
It was like one side, one side didn't have a pin and I couldn't hold my shoulder up for that long.
So I was just like, oh, wow.
And this was a live performance.
Seriously, this wasn't a.
Yes, no, this is a live performance.
We had an audience.
Is this on tape somewhere?
You know what?
There might be a tape of it.
We've got to get this.
Oh, gosh.
There was one other time.
Okay.
There's this massive six-foot stone that they roll away.
So like, you know, and it's made out of styrofoam.
It's not light, super light, but it's, you know, it's light enough.
So we were walking, there's a healing scene.
So I'm walking through and I'm healing everybody.
And there's this guy that's sitting right in front of the stone.
And he's like, he's from Sri Lanka.
He's like an immigrant.
He moved here.
He's a nice guy.
He's really cool.
Not an actor.
And he's just like going, oh, for the blind.
Almost for the blind.
And I'm like, I'm walking over to him.
And one of the Roman soldiers accidentally hits the top of this thing.
Right.
And so it like falls.
And he's like, alms for the blind.
Alms for the like.
Wow.
He just went blood.
And it's like, and the whole, this big rock, this big, like, it's like a six and a half foot rock like lands on this guy.
This poor guy.
And again, no, he's an actor in there.
I'm the only one.
So I walk over and I'm like, I just lifted up the rock.
I'm Jesus, you know?
So I'm just like, I put it back.
That's how Jesus sees, and everyone's like, and he's like looking at me and he goes, lifting the Indiana Jones rock off.
He just, yeah.
And he's just like, I could see.
I could see.
He literally didn't know what to do.
And it was awesome.
And I was just like, just bless you, my child.
Oh, man.
I've corkscrewed into the ceiling.
Like, there's like one time they crossed it, and I was like, like up through the ceiling.
You really don't know what's going to happen.
Dude, the flipping donkey died.
Okay, one time the donkey died.
Like the night we're real dumb.
Really God stayed.
No, no.
Yeah, right before, though.
And so her name was Maggie.
And she, I was, you know, I'd get on her.
I'd been riding this donkey for like nine years.
You know, she's supposed to be a cult that had never been ridden.
She was like 60 years old.
So it was like, wasn't biblically accurate.
But anyway, so I get on this.
You know, the night before she kicks the bucket.
We get a brand new donkey the next day.
And like, it was like the biggest donkey I've ever seen.
And so I jumped on this donkey to ride in for the great triumphal entry.
And like, there's all these like little kids with tambourines and stuff running around.
The donkey got confused and started like bucking and then ran out, like ran out.
Wow.
I like jumped off.
The donkey ran past all these little kids.
And I'm just like, like, I'm Jesus, you know?
Like everyone's like, Jesus, what do we do?
And I'm like, I'm just an actor.
I don't know.
I have no control.
And so, anyway, so you should come see the show.
It's great.
It's a great time.
Now I'm going.
I wasn't planning on it before, but now I'm going to be there.
No, the other side of it is, you know, it's so, there's, there's all this like CCM music from the 90s.
It's like totally nostalgic.
Like, you know, it's like a lot of, you know, Stephen Curtis chapter and stuff.
But it's weird because I have this, you know, Jesus, God uses the cheesy things of the world to shame the cool sometimes.
And like a thousand people come to Christ every year.
And so people are just like, I want to follow Christ.
I want to follow Christ.
So if you guys get a chance, it's called Luminate Church.
They changed the name of the church a few years ago.
Anyway, so it's called Luminate Church.
It's in Covina.
The show is called I Will Follow Christ.
Come check it out.
My friend plays the devil.
We have a great time.
So it's a lot of fun.
Awesome.
And you never know what you're going to see.
That's it.
This is awesome.
Might happen.
You never know.
That's wonderful.
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah, we'll have links to all that in the show notes.
So go check it out.
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All right, we're going to get on with the show.
CPAC happen.
We're going to talk Christian music.
We're going to look at the weirdest website you've ever seen.
And we're going to talk to Paul Cox from Reftunes.
Let's hit it.
Hey, Mr. Postman.
What's in the mailbag?
All right.
So now we have a really special email.
And this is something for Adam.
Oh, great.
Does he know about this?
I don't think so.
Unless he's.
I didn't know this was happening on this one.
We got an email like this before, right?
Yeah.
So this is someone named Team Martin03.
And he says, so you read my question on the podcast.
So I'm here to update you on this amazing girl for Adam.
She fits nearly all of your conditions.
My conditions.
He has my conditions.
Except that she's a five-hour drive north of you in Santa Cruz.
But we can take care of that.
They're going to give me a car.
Here's the rundown.
She's in her early 30s, maybe 33 or 34.
Yeah.
They don't know how old she is.
Haven't asked.
Never been married.
That's good.
So is that one of your conditions?
It's always better if they're never married.
So 33 or 33.
It's fitting my list of demands so far.
33 or 34.
Check.
Never been married.
Check.
She's very recently reformed, still reforming Pentecostal.
Got it.
Okay.
It's not Lutheran, though, right?
She started attending our church during COVID because she was impressed with how courageous Calvinists can be.
And she was not impressed with her Pentecostal buddies.
Our church is C-R-E-C, pretty similar to Lutheran Church Missouri Synod, except that we're crazy enough to let everybody who's baptized take communion.
Is that different from?
The Lutheran Church Missouri Synod is very strict about they read the confession of what we believe about communion prior to communion every week.
And you're only invited forward if you confess also that Christ is truly present in the bread and wine.
Now the ELCA is more like this where they'll let everyone who's a baptized believer come up.
Got you.
As long as you wear the rainbow pin, you can take communion.
Truly Linda in the ELCA.
Liberal ELCA ones, yeah.
In the last two and a half years at her church, she has single-handedly started a weekly homeless outreach, which her whole church has become involved in and volunteered to disciple our junior high girls who all think she's amazing.
That's great.
It is a more condition.
Checking off.
That's my other demand is junior high girls have to approve of her.
How do the junior high girls feel?
And we think she's amazing too.
And if you think this is all just to cover up the fact that she's not attractive, you would be wrong.
She's super cute, fit.
Okay.
Gorgeous, which is about the best description I can give you as a 40-something pastor's wife who's been married for 20 years.
Got it.
And if that whole description doesn't do it for you, her name is Christian.
Wow.
What?
Amazing.
You have my email, and here's my number.
We will arrange an all-expenses paid trip for a setup date if you're interested.
True.
You're really offering me an all-expenses paid trip to Santa Cruz.
I've always wanted to go to Santa Cruz.
This sounds like a rom-com.
You don't have to answer right now, but I'll think about it.
Yeah.
You know, we've got the contact with you.
I like that they have my list of demands.
Okay.
How Paul wrote letters to all the churches in the Carissan Mediterranean.
I sent a list of my romantic demands to every church in California.
To every Lutheran church.
I don't know.
This one's CREC or something.
Oh, right, right.
CREC.
That's right.
You know, I would love to see this as I wish we could document this experience.
I think it would be so good.
If I decided to do it, we would definitely have to.
We need to document it.
Yeah.
I would love to see the rom-com version of this.
I think it would be awesome.
Yeah, looking forward.
What I'm curious about in all this, I don't think they've mentioned in either email whether they've told this girl about this.
I was wondering the same thing.
Because that should be one of the conditions that she knows that you're coming.
Yeah.
I show up there on my all-expenses paid trip and they're like, there she is.
Go surprise her and tell her what we did.
Go talk to her.
Go talk to her.
Tell her your name.
That's crazy.
That is wonderful.
I wonder, like, maybe I don't fit her list of demands.
Yeah, she might have conditions too.
Yeah.
So, all right.
Well, thanks for that offer, and we'll keep you posted.
I'll consider it.
I think we should get the picture first.
Yes.
See, I didn't want to say that.
I don't want to say that because I don't want to be mean because I'm sure they're telling the truth.
But it's always a little suspicious when they say she's gorgeous and beautiful.
No attachment.
There's no attachment.
Oh, and I'm a 40-year-old wife of a pastor.
I'm sure.
Maybe I'm sure she's beautiful.
Maybe we'll get the picture and we'll let you know.
See, the other bad thing is that if they send the picture and then next week, we're just like, no, we're not doing that.
We never bring it up again.
It's horrible.
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What's in the news this week?
Speaking of Christian, we're going to talk about what's in the news this week.
And this is my favorite news story.
It's not really a news story.
But who's the best artist in Christian music?
There's a Twitter account named whose name, the guy that runs the Twitter account, is Eric McClanahan.
And he has been doing a painstakingly research Twitter bracket of Christian music, of a Christian music tournament like the March Madness basketball tournament, where Twitter users are voting for the best artist in each bracket.
And it's currently on round two.
I think this is going to go all month, depending on how long the voting holds.
It takes wow.
And yeah, so let's weigh in here.
Let's look at the we'll put the bracket up on the screen there.
There were 64 teams or was it 50, yeah, 16 in each division.
And he's divided this by Pioneers and Crossovers, Rock, Alternative and Metal, Youth Group Music, and CCM Radio.
Oh, I see.
So there's like four divisions or two.
Because what I thought was difficult is already in the second round in the, what is the first one?
Pioneers.
Pioneers and crossovers.
You have Switchfoot and POD against each other.
And I feel like they're two that made sort of the biggest mainstream.
Yeah, they made big mainstream splashes.
It's hard to see them against each other that early.
Well, it's a weird, I mean, you've got Amy Grant versus Sixpence.
They're not in the same category.
I didn't even realize Sixpence and the Richard was a Christian band.
They were kind of that borderline.
I always told them, always riding the fence.
In my heart.
Yeah, the Supertones versus DC Talk, that's not even a thing.
I mean, I have this.
Do you want to predict who you think is going to be the best one?
So I really want Switchfoot to get at least into the semifinals.
I don't know if they're going to beat Amy Grant.
I think Amy Grant has a lot of name recognition.
And she's number one seed in that bracket.
I really will pull for Switchfoot.
Also, you got Keith Green, who a lot of people that follow Christian music are going to vote.
And this next round might be Keith Green versus Larry Norman.
Larry Norman.
And they were the two grandfathers.
They weren't married to each other, not like gay grandfathers.
But they were like the two grandfathers of Christian music in a lot of ways.
Yeah.
You got Striper.
I have a tendency to think on the right side, you're going to get a Jars of Clay versus DC Talk matchup.
And I think, you know.
I feel like DC Talk will definitely go far.
I'm hoping they get to the semifinals because I really liked them.
There's some pretty big early competition.
There's some big first round eliminations.
Yeah.
If you look at some of the ones like Delirious, they were a big worship band in the late 90s.
They got knocked out by the Supertones in round one.
That's crazy.
The Newsboys got knocked out in round one.
Oh, wow.
They were seated six because they went up against.
Yeah, they went up against Five Iron Frenzy.
Five Iron Frenzy knocked out Newsboys because I feel like the Newsboys have had a much longer run.
Yeah, they have.
Five Iron Frenzy did.
And Five Iron Frenzy are communists now.
But they retweeted.
Five Iron Frenzy kept retweeting the poll and getting their fans to vote for it.
So there was a little bit of the interaction there.
Oh, I get it.
Hillsong is like probably the most popular Christian worship group right now.
Hillsong United.
And they got knocked out in round one.
Hillsong Worship also got knocked out in round one.
Well, and Bethel Music would be the other one.
Stephen Curtis Chapman.
Bethel Music?
Yeah, Bethel.
We're talking about Christian bands here.
Yeah, so for King and Country, like versus Jeremy Camp, I'm like, whatever, dude.
So I guess King and Country for sure.
If I'm going to make a prediction, I'll say Michael W. Smith is going to win this division.
DC Talk.
DC Talk is going to win this division.
I'm going to say Switchfoot, but that's probably my hopeful.
Probably Amy Grant.
Yeah, that's my hopeful.
You know, whatever.
Amy Grant's like Nashville.
Skillet's on there too, still?
She's like Nashville Royalty.
Let's go MXPX for this division.
Yeah, you're probably right.
That's wishful thinking on my part.
But then the final round, I think DC Talk is definitely going to be crowned Lord of the Dance.
I agree.
Yeah.
On the bank of the Tennessee River.
So this guy has some interaction.
Demon Hunter retweeted his tournament.
Derek Webb retweeted it.
Who's Derek Webb?
He's somebody.
Derek Webb, Cademan's Call.
Oh, Cademan's Call.
He's also, I think, a progressive Christian now.
He wrote a bunch of like actually really thoughtful music back in the day.
It was really good.
Yeah, it's right.
I remember that.
And a member of Reliant K voted against his own band to vote for Five Iron Frenzy.
That's funny.
In this one.
Rhys Roper of Five Iron Frenzy says, help Five Iron to become the champions in this meaningless poll.
That's funny.
Yeah, so lots of cool interaction.
Jars of Clay Says that they demand an inquiry into the way the tournament is being run.
Yeah, because they didn't make it past the first, right?
Five Iron is sharing it on.
No, they did.
Yeah.
Oh, they did.
Oh, wow.
Five Iron is sharing relentlessly on Facebook and Twitter tracking.
They really wanted to fire up their fan base.
Sanctus Real was upset that they weren't even included in the tournament.
Oh.
See, that's what I don't know all the Christian rock bands and music bands as well.
But are there any major ones that were left off that you?
I know he tweeted a list of some that got left off.
I think there are some major ones that got left out.
But I mean, you got to pick 64.
You know, I think he probably picked the right ones at the tournament.
Cutlass got eliminated in round one by third day, and they responded with eyeball emojis.
Is this a serious?
I mean, this is a particular period of time, right?
It's not now because Maverick City would probably win now.
This is like classic CCM.
I mean, well, some of those are modern bands like Hillsong.
You know, this is just all-time greats, I think.
Well, I don't know.
I think Maverick City's moving into that category, but I don't even know.
Curtis Chapman.
He's got the eyeballs here.
Yeah, he's like, what's going on with me, guys?
Because he did not.
He is actually, he wrote The Lord of the Dance, and he's not going to win the Lord of the Dance.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Is Johnny Cash ever considered in these things?
He's older, but he made a lot of.
So that's more modern kind of contemporary Christian music.
He's like, yeah, this would be the modern contemporary.
He was not even really a Christian artist until later, but he never really comes around.
Yeah, and in the early 2000s, before his death, he released a lot of Christian folks.
He did.
He did.
He was just classic country.
He's not considered as Christian music because he's good.
I see.
That's it.
Yeah.
All right.
So that was great.
Best of luck to all the artists.
Best of luck.
Yeah, that was great.
And Five Arm Friends, please stop being communists.
You're my favorite band.
I know.
Gosh.
That and Derek Webb, please come back to the Lord.
My goodness.
Okay.
This week in Drag Queen News.
All right.
We need a graphic and a music for that.
This week in Drag Queen news.
We got to play the scissors.
This will be the last time I ever do your hair.
All right, so is this conservatism?
The RNC announced the Pride Coalition.
Okay, this is a recent thing.
A partnership with log cabin Republicans ahead of the midterms at Mar-a-Lago.
So the RNC chairwoman, Rona McDaniel, said RNC is committed to working with the country's largest group representing LGBTQ conservatives and allies.
Are those Republicans?
Really?
I think you buried the lead.
This is all about CPAC.
Did we mention CPAC?
I did say it's that CPAC.
Conservative drag queens showed up at CPAC.
Yes, they are going to be showing up at so the log cabin Republicans are the gay, like the gay Republicans.
The gay Republicans.
How do we feel about it?
How do you guys feel about that?
Yeah, that's a great question.
It's kind of an interesting question because it's like you can maybe see if some people can share certain values being able to.
I personally think generally that it's a good thing politically and for the country.
But I think there's a big divide between people's motives for conservatism and their own political beliefs.
Because I think a big portion of evangelicals see faith and religious values as a huge part of their political views.
Now, I think it's valid to have those debates in terms of theology and your religious beliefs.
But as far as politics and the future of the country goes, I know this will be controversial with some of our viewers, but I do think I meet gay people, even a few transgender people, who are very pro-free speech, who don't like the way wokeness is being forced in culture.
And I think in terms of having allies supporting liberty in general and the Constitution, I think it's good to have those allies.
But I do think we need to be wary of not letting that cultural impact influence religious beliefs.
And I guess I worry a little bit about the slippery slope.
Like if it's locked cabin Republicans today, is it like drag cabin Republicans in 50 years?
Right.
The question to me is like, we bring this into the center of kind of the conservative movement and then it normalizes it even more.
Then, you know, does it then become normal in our public schools even more from the conservative side?
Is it just the liberals pushing this agenda?
Yeah.
Or are they really pushing an agenda?
Like my I have a tendency to agree with you, Adam, that pluralism is a good thing.
I think a variety of people having opinions that are conservative and free speech advocates is a really good thing.
I think having those voices and having a conversation with folks in a political sense, really a great thing.
But I also think, you know, religiously, you know, forcing people to believe certain things or shaming people for not believing that these things are good or not.
I mean, like, I'm always going to think it's perverse.
Like, you know what I mean?
Even if I like the people, like, I'm always going to have a hard time with what they do because it's just not, you know, it's not.
Anyway, probably shouldn't.
I think we have to be wary of what their motives are in promoting this at a political level.
Yeah, this is a Trojan horse.
Like, that's the question.
Is it a Trojan horse?
Well, Matt Walsh had an interesting Twitter comment.
He said, absolute embarrassment.
You're not a conservative if you're a fighting conservative perversion.
That shouldn't need to be explained.
He was sharing this picture of a drag queen entering CPAC, a drag queen who calls himself Lady MAGA.
Lady MAGA.
I guess this person, this drag queen person has been seen at multiple conservative events.
Like it's kind of a thing.
I don't know.
Now, do we know how Lady MAGA feels about things like drag queen story hours?
Should kids be exposed to it?
Because, you know, to your point, I think as a Christian, I am certainly confident in my religious faith, calling certain behaviors perverse, saying that doesn't fit my values.
In terms of liberty for the country, until they started pushing drag queen story hours and it's on kids, I am, even if I disagree with it morally, if they want to have a drag queen bingo night at a bar or something like that for adults, I don't necessarily think the government should be stopping that or it should be out.
It's okay, that's something I disagree with or I have moral objections to.
But in the sense of a free society, they have a right to do that.
Right.
Yeah.
And yeah, it's a challenging thing.
You're talking about this.
I don't know if Lady MAGA has ever read books to children at libraries.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a great question.
I mean, honestly, that is the question is like, are we trying to tell kids that it's okay?
Like, are we trying to tell kids it's okay versus, you know, as some person dressing like a lady?
Yeah.
You know, it's like, whatever, you can dress like what you want.
CPAC, have you guys ever been to CPAC?
No.
I've never been to CAPA.
We were supposed to go this year.
Oh, really?
Yeah, at some point.
We were supposed to go to see Lady MAGA.
Yeah.
We actually were invited at one point, but I don't know what happened.
Yeah.
We got busy.
I always see those big political events as just being giant circuses, and I'm not really interested.
Yeah, I don't mind going there and meeting fun people like Lady MAGA.
I want to be part of the Drag Queen bingo night now.
I don't know.
In other news, Tucker Carlson got January 6th tapes from House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, and he is playing them for his audience.
The question is, do they tell a different story than what the January 6th committee was telling us January 6th was?
Kevin McCarthy defended releasing the tapes to Tucker Carlson after media said Tucker used the tapes to whitewash what happened, made it seem mostly peaceful, and downplayed Officer Brian Sicknick's death, who was seen walking around on the footage, seemingly okay after he was attacked and pepper sprayed by MAGA supporters.
Tucker said the J-Six committee added audio to silent CCTV footage, inserting screens and other crowd mayhem sounds to make it seem more ominous.
Now, I read that.
See, that's the thing.
I don't know if that's true.
I feel like that's a big scandal if it's true.
It's true.
He's claiming that.
And that's true.
They're putting the wheels in the middle of the middle.
I have an exact...
Somebody jumps through the window.
I haven't watched any of this, but they said that the shaman was being led around by the police officer.
I did see some of Tucker Carlson's footage of it.
It does show the shaman being led through the interior of the Capitol building with two police officers at least who are walking besides him, who are talking to him at points, who open a door for him at one point.
When he's in the House chamber at the end, he prays for the, he gives this public prayer where he prays for them for letting him inside and stuff.
And he seems like sort of a weird guy, regardless of whether you think he's bad or not.
I think what's always hard for me with this is because of how politicized this has become, it's so hard to just speak about the January 6th thing with nuance.
I think it was terrible that it devolved into a riot.
I think the violence that did happen was bad.
And I don't ever want to hesitate from condemning that.
I do think there were a few isolated groups there that had nefarious plans, these militias and stuff that showed up.
But I do agree that the vast majority of people came there.
They were peaceful.
The activity that took place when they were in the Capitol did not seem particularly violent.
And it was not this narrative that the J-Six committee and the Democrats made up where it was a violent insurrection planned by President Trump and his followers.
So yeah, I think it's a good idea to release all the footage.
There's a debate over whether all news outlets should get all 40,000 hours and it should be made available publicly.
I think it's good to let people see what happened for themselves.
According to this poll, over 80%, 78% of Democrats, 86% of Republicans say that all the videos should be released.
Yeah.
It's like everybody pretty much wants to see it.
What happened?
And what's suspicious about it is it does seem now it says 78% of Democrats publicly want it to be released.
It does seem like Democrat politicians and media figures are the ones who are most opposed to not releasing it.
And I saw CNN has already run articles trying to debunk and downplay what Tucker Carlson is saying, but it's right there on tape.
You can't deny what you're seeing.
Debunk the actual footage.
Debunk saying, don't believe this.
Don't accept what you're seeing with your own eyes.
Senator Chuck Schumer stated Tuesday that Fox News should prevent Tucker Carlson from airing more January 6th video footage of lies.
Like footage of lies.
Actual footage of footage of lies.
What actually happened?
They're just footage.
Oh, that's so crazy.
And the Brian Sicknick thing, it's so sad that that officer died, but his death has been politicized in a weird way because the official medical examiner report said that he died of natural causes of medical conditions, but that it was exasperated by the events that took place that day.
But what I think is always weird about it, if you look up the Wikipedia article on January 6th, they always refer to it in the media on the left as the deadly insurrection.
They say there's these four people that died.
If you look at the four people that died, it was Brian Sicknick who died a day later.
According to the medical examiner of natural causes, there was someone who overdosed on drugs near the riot.
And then there was two other people, I think, that died of natural causes, either during or after.
There is no other tragedy or riot where they count casualties as people who died of natural causes nearby or after it took place.
That's right.
It's a ridiculous thing where they try to spend.
Yeah.
She was two states away, but it counts.
Norm McDonald's tweet on January 6th, 2021.
Let's hear Norm from Beyond the Grave.
Okay.
I loved when the violent terrorists made sure to respect the velvet ropes in Statuary.
That's a great picture there.
I'm just picturing.
He's got a way of saying things.
I don't know why that tickles me so much.
But he gets me.
Oh, Trump had things to say.
Here's Trump's response.
He says, Congratulations to Tucker Carlson on one of the biggest scoops as a reporter in U.S. history.
The new surveillance footage, all capitals, of the January 6th events, Capitol, sheds an entirely different light on what actually happened.
The unselect committee was a giant scam and has now unequivocally been stamped as criminal fabricators of this most important day.
Pelosi and McConnell failed on security.
The police story is sad and difficult to watch.
Trump and most others are totally innocent.
Let them go free now.
So Trump is saying to let Trump go free?
I feel like Trump's nickname game has really gone downhill in recent years.
Like the Unselect Committee was his parody with the Select Committee.
Ron DeSanctimonius was the worst.
So bad.
So bad.
Ron DeSanctimus.
I think he'll get it back again.
He's gearing up for campaign mode.
He'll be whipping out the hits again.
It's seasonal.
Yeah, it's seasonal.
We've got one more truth.
I guess this is a truth, social, truth.
Oh, okay.
When you post something on truth, it's called truth, social, it's called a truth.
And when you share it, it's called a retruth.
A retruth.
And it says to post your truth.
So I don't even, it doesn't even make sense.
And it's all capital.
This one is every single word is all capital.
Let the January 6th prisoners go.
They were convicted or are awaiting trial based on a giant lie, a radical left caught in job.
Thank you to Tucker Carlson and Speaker of the House, Kevin Mc There's one lowercase letter.
The Mick Carthy.
Oh, yes.
He did bother to bother to lowercase that.
Mick Carthy, for what you both have done, new video footage is irrefutable.
In 2011, Sizzler introduced a food truck concept called ZZ Truck, not to be confused with ZZ Top.
I'm sure it was a take on that, a play on words.
The menu included items such as sliders, $1 cheese toast, red velvet ice cream sandwiches, and their signature sandwich, the Mitatarian, a veritable pile of tri-tip pulled pork, jalapeno bacon, and jack cheese, slattered with chipotle sauce, all stacked unceremoniously between two slices of cheese toast.
That looks delicious.
That makes me hungry.
Yeah, that looks just sad.
That looks really good.
I feel like I would die of natural causes the next day, exacerbated by that.
The ZZ Truck is based around the Santa Ana, California area.
If you would like to visit the ZZ truck, you cannot.
They have been non-operational for about a decade.
This has been Sizzler Facts.
Sad.
We actually have a Sizzler review now.
And now, a review of Sizzler.
This is from the Avenue 65 de Infantaria Kilometer 5.4 Carolina 00985 Puerto Rico Sizzler Escorial location.
And Renee Rivera wrote, this is a review that he posted of, or she, I don't know if Renee, of the Sizzler.
Went for lounge.
And really and really surprised with a Z to enter a restaurant totally differentes to all sizzles.
Differentes.
To all sizzles.
It looked out and organized different.
Well, the food tasted good, but the service was slow.
Tables to beer each other and kind of noisy.
It has free parking.
But I'll rather not visit this one again because I feel like I am not in Sizzle.
I am not in Sizzle.
I want to look that up on maps and see if it's actually a Sizzler or if it's just a different restaurant with a similar.
This is not Sizzle.
What did this Sizzler?
It was a Burger King.
Well, speaking of sizzling content, now it is time, for the first time in a few weeks, weekly news with Adam Jenser.
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In a new interview this week, Prince Harry said that psychedelics are now a fundamental part of his life and help him deal with trauma.
Specifically, he said mushrooms have helped him alleviate anxiety, accept his own self-worth, and realize the rest of the royal family are interdimensional lizard people.
A family in China raised what they thought was a mastiff puppy for two years before discovering it was a bear.
They realized it was a bear because it, quote, tasted too gamey.
Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot lost her bid for re-election last week, and she was so sad her face just sank.
What's that?
Oh, never mind.
It was like that already.
Chris Rock performed a live Netflix comedy special where he addressed Will Smith, Megan Markle, outrage culture, and why he supports abortion, after which a newborn crawled on stage and slapped him.
Michael Moore has called for a nationwide boycott of Walgreens because it stopped selling the abortion pill at some stores.
Michael, this makes no sense.
You're not pregnant.
The only thing that's going to get rid of that bump is diet and exercise.
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis traveled to California this week where he criticized rival Gavin Newsome, who, like DeSantis, is also expected to lose to Trump in 2024.
Upon returning to Florida from California, DeSantis checked his shoes to make sure he wasn't tracking any poop in.
Two illegal immigrants from Honduras were charged in Nebraska for hunting and killing a bald eagle in order to eat it.
They were given a hefty fine and banned from the zoo for two weeks.
Walmart is closing its last remaining stores in Portland, Oregon, due to record-breaking thefts and crime.
Disappointed customers say they'll now have to start robbing at Target.
While driving back from a date in Beverly Hills, Pete Davidson crashed his Mercedes into a home.
And just like his stand-up, he failed to bring the house down.
It was revealed this week that many Chuck E. Cheese restaurants still use a floppy disk to program their dancing characters.
A spokesperson explained that Chuck E. Cheese hasn't updated their computer system since the last time they cleaned the ball pit.
That's it for weekly news.
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Oh, that was great.
I'm glad you do that every week.
That was a breath of fresh air.
I do it every week, except not some weeks.
Is this the most insane website of all time?
Is this the most insane website of all time?
We found a website that looks like it was designed the same year as the King James Bible in 1611.
We got to see here if the King James-only folks are all right.
So this is a hardcore King James-only website.
You might have seen this before.
This makes the rounds now and then, but it's Jesus-is-savior.com.
And we just kind of wanted to peruse.
Are we able to zoom this in at all, Dan?
You know what's funny?
Our producer Dan found this web, stumbled across this website.
And the same week that he brought this up, I had stumbled across a, it's one of the links.
It's very hard to navigate this website.
Yes.
But I was looking up something regarding Billy Graham, and there was a link to it.
It was just called Why Billy Graham is in Hell.
And it was one of the links on this website.
So we first got a comment on the Starfield background, like kind of a nebula.
And it's like very tessellated.
Like it's the same image kind of tessellated in the background there.
That's a great word, tessellation.
Tessellated.
You say tessellation.
I don't even know about that word.
That's a great word.
A tessellating object is like when any object that can interlock in a pattern.
You know, like triangles can tessellate, hexagons can tessellate, squares can tessellate.
A tesseract.
Like a tessellate.
A Pentagon cannot, I think.
This sounds like information you would have gotten by doing a lot of board gaming.
Well, yeah, like hexagons.
That's why board game maps are squares or hexagons.
Tessellating.
Because they tessellate.
That's a word board gamers use.
So, you know, we got to look.
It does look like a 90s screensaver kind of background.
Yeah.
You would just copy and remember that star field that would come at you and like that was really cool.
I do remember that.
And you would just watch it because there was nothing else to do back then.
You just watch it on your computer.
Remember those like triangular shapes that would like bounce around on the screen?
And you'd try to watch it hit the corner.
You got like a Sizzler logo that would just bounce.
Did you guys ever have the one with the pipes?
Oh, yeah.
They would wiggle around.
That was really cool.
I had a dream with those.
And then there was one that it looked almost like you were walking down hallways in the original Wolfenstein game where it was just like a turnover.
So down there, I'm zero zero to no Wolfenstein.
And that was amazing.
Groundbreaking.
This has so much information on it.
So bright yellow links and way too many just haphazardly all over the place.
It's like different categories that one person came up with.
It's like 666, you know, Bible study two, not Bible study one, dead churches, pharmageddon, hail Mary, hail Satan.
These are all categories and pages, though.
Yeah, soul winning.
I like this search bar that just kind of flashes on and off the screen.
What about Bohemian Grove?
Right next to Alcohol Kills is feminism.
Harry Shavo murdered.
That's what I'm hell vision.
Hell vision.
I'm going to read through the links that he saw fit to kind of put along here and just real rapidly.
Go ahead.
Transgenics, divorce sin, DCFS monsters, G-A-D-D, abortion murder, U.S. bankruptcy, Illuminati, witchcraft, homosexuality, Donald Trump, Homeless.
I wouldn't know what to click on if anything.
Yeah.
You know, want to get involved.
Click here.
He's got this image.
This might be from Chick Tracks, but we have the Pope, probably Billy Graham or something, actually.
I thought maybe it was an anti-Jew thing.
I would imagine there's, I'm sure if you look, there's anti-Jew stuff on there.
It just seems like that kind of a website.
It could be either that.
And it says, we hope you like our Bible.
And they're holding up the NIV.
Yes.
New international.
Oh, and then there's, of course, that Blake 9-11 was an inside job.
What truly happened on 9-11, period?
The solid evidence against some of our highest leaders is very disturbing.
Wake up, America, because we're all losing our nation and freedoms.
Liberty isn't free.
Watch 9-1-1 video.
9-1-1 was an inside job.
And then we've got the inside job.
Now in archives.
And I love how there's a picture of the guys taking Ilien Gonzalez out of the class everybody from the evil days.
90s, yeah.
And then a rainbow blog thing is his blog.
Well, it's funny because there's Facebook.
All these small, all this small font, and then you've got this massive B-L-O-G blog.
Yeah, it's like blog when it's all these different colors.
Very strange.
And there's an anti-evolution link with a picture of a monkey growling.
I feel like I stepped into somebody's brain that is not very well organized.
I feel like I'm inside his brain.
It's like there's a very stream of consciousness.
Did he start out with like five or six links and then he kept thinking, oh, I got to have this.
And then he just kept it going.
This is what it looks like to me.
He doesn't sleep much.
This person.
There's a lot of writing.
Yeah.
It's very.
United States is in deep doo-doo, isn't one links.
And also, the Roman Catholic celibate priesthood is full of whoremongers.
And then I like right in the middle, for some reason, it says, Wake up, America.
You need to listen to Alex Jones.
And there's a link to Alex Jones's show somewhere here.
Tell your priest the most personal and pure thoughts you have.
He's eager to hear them all.
The Antichrist slideshow.
Wow.
Yeah.
I mean, it's like, I don't think he understands the.
Oh, and we haven't even scrolled down.
I'm looking at the navigation bar.
We're about 10%.
I've scrolled down less than a quarter of the way through this.
I mean, this is just crazy.
There are literally thousands of links on here.
This is a little strange.
It says, click and drag my website's fave icon from the address window onto your links bar.
You should see a heart because I love you and there's nothing you can do about it.
Wow.
That's scary.
That's a little.
I don't want your love.
Don't send your kids to church.
Please don't.
Oh.
Jesus never changes.
Protest gay day.
Protest gay day.
And then this is a picture of Rudolph Giuliani, I think, in drawing.
Oh, yeah.
Maybe Rudolph Julian.
Was he really in drag?
He did dress and drag for some comedy sketch or something.
Oh, I thought it was years ago.
Fridays at the Blue Oaks.
I've never dressed and drag in a comedy series, so he'd come back and haunt me later.
I've only done that once.
It's a shame.
But you did fling yourself on the ground.
I'm just wind up on this website at some point.
Adam Jenser dresses.
I have thousands of millions of links.
So, yeah, I don't know if there's anything else that we really need to look at here, but I'm not sure any of this.
It's funny.
There's so many links, and you keep scrolling past, and then eventually the same things start coming up again.
There's another 9-11 Truth link.
Oh, there's the dead churches.
I wonder if you click the link at the top and it brings you down here.
Maybe.
That's interesting.
Dead churches.
I think he has all these sub-pages.
Like, if you click.
Do we know is this one person that runs this site or is it a collective thing that links to a bunch of other pages?
So on his My Facebook page, it links to somebody named David Stewart.
So I don't know if that's the guy who runs this.
I feel like this feels like a manifesto from a person who would send bombs through the mail.
Yes, it does.
Doesn't it?
You know?
It's like a ransomware.
I'm not accusing him of doing that.
No.
But it's like a ransom.
But it is that kind of.
It is when they carry the suspect away and they say something like full of indecipherable content.
Indecipherable content.
And then they show some of the highlights from the most egregious stuff.
Oh, I guess that illustration top was not a chick track because he does not like chick tracks.
Oh, he's anti-chick.
Beware of chick tracks.
Oh, yeah, that's evil.
So when gospel tracks kill.
Oh.
So he's gospel tracks.
Surround your life.
He thinks that they're not.
There are just essays and essays of stuff.
I wonder if he writes all of these or if they're like other essays that he finds.
Yeah.
Boy.
Whoever is the pastor for this guy, if he goes to somebody's church, that pastor knows all about this.
You know he does.
Well.
And the premise of all this for the website is that the King James Version is the only version of the Bible you can trust.
I think he, yeah, so he is a King James only guy.
He has these like anti-NIV.
Listen to the Alex Jones show.
There's a picture of Alex Jones.
And there's it Terry Shaiva.
Yeah.
There's a lot of Terry Shaiva links on here.
Wow.
Unshackled, the end of the world books.
Wow, he just keeps adding.
It just goes on.
It goes on.
All right, well, I guess about street preaching there.
Street preaching resources.
Says this Mary J. Grimm.
Versus Timothy.
That's not him, is it?
I don't think that's him.
That's not how it is.
That's not somebody that he supports, though.
That's one of the first pictures I've seen that he seems to be in favor of.
He's like, I like this guy.
Yeah.
Wake up, America.
Listen to Alex Jones.
Do you like Ray Comfort?
The font choice is pretty interesting, too.
We transition into Comic Sans.
Comic Sans.
Some italics.
I didn't say that.
The Comic Sans Bible is the only one you can trust.
What was that?
And this says don't click on this.
So I'm going to click on it.
And it says, you're just like Adam and Eve.
Oh, he got me.
Because I was commanded not to, and I did it anyway.
Don't click on that.
That's pretty clever.
I do like that.
That's very clever.
Yeah.
I'm not seeing papyrus in here anymore.
There's a meme with too many words.
I'm fucking the Titanic.
Not to use them.
All right, we'll land here.
We've got to finish with this meme.
So we have the Titanic sinking, and it's labeled Ship of Fools.
And it's also labeled Harvest Baptist Church on Guam.
And it's also labeled Bob Jones University.
As one of the steam stacks on there.
And it says, we struck an iceberg of lordship salvation.
I warned you not to use those modern Bible versions.
I don't know what dispute is.
Oh, what is lordship salvation?
Is that Christ's Lord?
No, it's people that say you have to repent and believe.
And there's that argument of like, are you saved just by that initial intellectual ascent?
Or do you have to repent and Christ must be Lord of your life?
Or is there a world in which you're saved, but Christ isn't really, you know, you're sinning and you're off, but you did pray the prayers that you are saved.
So you're okay.
That was a simplified version.
You're all set.
All right.
Well, we've made it to the bottom.
Wow.
You guys made it.
So we made it.
All right.
Great.
Check out Jesus Savior to come.
Maybe there's some good information there.
All right.
There's a lot to read.
Wow.
Well, now it is time to talk to someone who knows how to design a good website and good books, Paul Cox of Reftoons.
He has a new illustrated Westminster Catechism and a lot of other good cartoons, books, stickers, all kinds of good stuff you can get.
So let's talk to Paul.
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Yes, everybody, we are talking to Paul Cox, who is the man behind Reft Tunes.
If you haven't seen these online, go check them out, especially if you are into Christian theology and whatnot.
There's lots of great illustrations.
And early on, I know you were kind of just illustrating quotes from, you know, the old dead white guys.
And I know you've moved into more longer form stuff like the book that we'll talk about, but that's pretty cool.
How has Reft Tunes grown and changed in the last few years since you've been doing it?
Well, yeah, it started out mainly just drawing the old dead guys, the old dead white guys, as you as you say.
But yeah, I mean, I would just get quotes from these old dead guys and found more and more things in the public domain, like catechisms and confessions and even children's books like Pilgrim's Progress.
I illustrated that as well.
And I'm just, it's grown in that, like, I'm kind of expanding the different types of things that I'm trying to draw and illustrate because I see these as helpful resources for the church.
And why not add illustrations to them?
Yeah, and you're a phenomenal artist, man.
What are some of your influences from an artistic perspective?
Oh, definitely Bill Watterson from Calvin and Hobbes.
He was like a huge inspiration for me.
I grew up just reading all of the Calvin and Hobbes books.
And when it was actually in the newspaper, I remember sitting at my grandparents' house reading through their Sunday papers and see the big old colored Calvin and Hobbes page.
Yeah.
I haven't read the funnies in so long.
I felt like they were actually funny when I was a kid.
I don't know if that's just that I changed or I don't even know if they still do funnies, but I remember last time I picked up a funnies.
It wasn't funny.
So sad.
They've become more serious.
And they were definitely more funny when I was younger.
I don't know if my taste in humor was good at the time, though, because I was like, I thought Garfield was the funniest thing in the world.
And I go back and I read them and I'm like, okay, maybe it wasn't the funniest thing in the world.
But I don't know.
There's still something fun about just the standard tropes that you go to when you have a long-running strip.
Like Garfield hates Mondays.
Yeah.
And I don't know.
There's something kind of comforting and familiar about it.
So, yeah.
You know, maybe there's too much criticism of Garfield.
Right.
Well, when you run that long, as long as Garfield did and does it, I mean, probably still running, right?
I mean, I don't, does he, I wonder if he still draws it or if he's got ghost riders and stuff now.
I don't know.
He probably has people working for him.
Underlings.
Yeah.
And Watterson was so cool because he didn't sell out.
You know, he was like, he never sold merch.
He was, he was just so into it and then just gave it up, you know, 10 years in and he just, and he just called it quits because he didn't want to milk it.
He didn't want to be under the under the under the gun all the time with the deadline.
Didn't want to take into this big merchandise empire capitalistically, which let's talk about your new book.
Yeah.
You've got the Westminster shorter catechism now illustrated.
You did the, I know you had the Baptist one, didn't you?
Was it the Baptist catechism?
Yeah, I illustrated the Baptist Catechism and then I decided I would illustrate the Westminster since that's what the Baptist Catechism is based off of.
Yeah, so you get to just recycle like 95% of it and then you just change out one question and you're good, right?
Right.
The infamous baptism question.
So did you convert?
Are you dunking your kids now?
No, we wear rain.
We put them in raincoats when we visited our Presbyterian brothers.
That's good.
So this is just to cash in to make money off the Presbyterians and get them together.
That's right.
Transfer money to the Baptists.
That's right.
Build our empire.
So what's next?
We got the Catholic Catechism coming up next.
Well, you know, probably not.
No, okay.
I don't know the history of the Catholic Catechism.
Was that done?
And Dan can knock on the wall to confirm or deny, but that was done in response to the Reformed Catechisms, right, Dan?
He's knocking three times.
That means I'm correct.
That means you're correct.
Okay.
Yeah.
I'll take his knock for it.
Well, the funny thing to me is I think of catechism and I think of Catholicism, you know, because we didn't grow up in like confessional churches.
And any of my friends who were Catholic, they would tell me about catechism.
Like, oh, that's a weird ritualistic thing for Catholics, but it was actually a Protestant tradition first.
So yeah, I mean, what is the value of catechism, especially these, you know, cartoon Bill Watterson style illustrations, illustrated versions of the catechism?
I mean, yeah, I always thought it was Catholic growing up as well because I had friends who would go off to there's like a separate bus for kids at school who would like go to like their confirmation classes and things like that.
I don't know if that's Catholic or what, but yeah, I always thought it was just a Catholic thing until I started digging into theology and church history more.
And but yeah, I guess the the benefit of the catechism is that it's it takes all of the basic doctrines of the Bible, condenses it down into question and answer form.
And when you when you go over these with kids, I mean, kids will soak up so much information.
And it's, it's like, I heard someone say one time that it's like it's like learning your ABCs.
Like you learn the basic doctrines of the Christian faith.
And it's like, it's like learning the ABCs.
It's like the foundations of the faith.
And when the kids get that in their heads, as they grow, they grow more and more with these doctrines and learn them even more as they grow older.
Well, so we've got the Westminster Short Catechism.
Everybody check that out.
What are some other books and such that you've been working and putting out recently?
Well, The Westminster, certainly.
And actually, Kind of a little announcement: the Westminster.
I'm actually working with PNR Publishing to produce the West Illustrated Westminster Catechism in modern English.
So the one I have is Old English with KJV because it's in the public domain and I'm self-publishing.
But they're going to produce it in modern English with the ESV instead of the KJV, and they intend to release that in August, just in time for churches to get their fall programming started.
But I'm also working with them on a four-volume graphic novel.
And it's a graphic novel version of John Calvin's Institutes of the Christian Religion.
Wow.
Wow.
I do not know what a graphic novel version of the Institutes will look like, but I can't wait to see what that will it have.
Will it have him executing heretics?
Is that going to be that might come in volume four?
Volume four.
Okay, I can't wait.
That's that is awesome.
All right, where can people check out your work and buy our stuff and check out the catechism?
Yeah, definitely go to reftunes.com.
That's where that's my shop.
I've got decals, prints, books, calendars.
And also, I'm on all the social medias: Facebook, Instagram, Twitter.
I recently started YouTube and I do a lot of live drawing on there.
And that's it.
All right, PopQuiz.
I'm going to quiz you on three questions from the shorter catechism and see how many you get right.
Oh, no.
First one: What is the misery of that estate wherein to man fell?
Hmm.
Let me cheat.
He's cheating.
No, I don't.
What is the misery?
What is the misery?
Say that again.
This is like a question in the middle of a series.
What is the misery of that estate wherein to man fell?
Question 19.
Question 19.
Mankind fell into a state of sin and misery.
I'm getting my catechisms confused because my kids are going through the wrong.
The correct smaller one.
The correct answer is: all mankind by their fall lost communion with God and are under his wrath and curse and so made liable to all miseries in this life, to death itself, and to the pains of hell forever.
And then I'll do two more.
What offices doth Christ execute as our Redeemer?
The offices of prophet, priest, and king.
Beautiful.
And what is the chief end of man?
To glorify God and to enjoy Him forever.
We'll give it to you.
Two out of three.
Not bad.
Thanks.
Yeah.
I was thrown off by the old English speak.
We grant you the rank of wait.
We grant you.
I'm trying to remember the Star Wars line.
We do not grant you the rank of Presbyterian, but you are not on this council.
I don't know.
Whatever.
That would have worked better if I had prepared.
All right.
Well, thanks for coming on, Paul.
And please, everybody, go check this out.
Pick up the catechism.
You can get the Baptist one or you can get the 95% correct one, the Westminster one.
And please check that out.
It's a great way to.
I'm starting to do more family devotionals with my family, and I may grab one of these to do with the kids.
So that's awesome.
Thanks for having me.
Oh, that was great, Paul.
And Kyle, you did a great job.
Good job, Kyle.
Thank you.
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