The Death Of Comedy | A Bee Interview With Lou Perez
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Yeah, so great of you to come out.
I know I was on a panel with you at Freedom Fest, along with John Cleese's daughter, which was she has a name.
I just know her as John Cleese's daughter, but that was pretty cool.
That was fun.
Yeah, we enjoyed your, I enjoyed what you said to the audience, and I feel like you were like ribbing the audience a little bit too, which was fun.
Yeah, there was one point, I think I forget what one of the jokes was, had something to do with age of consent, something like that, like, oh, you wacky libertarians.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
There's definitely, you know, a booth in the back, you know, where a guy arguing, you know, lower away.
So I missed Freedom Fest.
I was out of town that week.
But so you, I like that you ribbed the audience a little bit because I know, like, in comedy, I think that's always kind of one of my instincts is to not just pander to the crowd.
It's like whenever you find where their values are or what they believe in, it's like you want to go after that a little bit.
Even at a place like Freedom Fest, it's like you want to make them the target or go after what they hold sacred a little bit.
Yeah, I think for comedians, we're often, we often are so like self-deprecating, you know, and it's like, look, if I can make fun of myself, I mean, you guys got to be able to take a joke about yourself too.
Yeah.
And I think that's what's one of the problems.
I mean, you have a whole book here called That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore on the death and rebirth of comedy.
And I started reading it.
It's a great book.
Everyone should check it out.
But, you know, a lot of it talks about the differences in political comedy nowadays.
And I think the sort of echo chamber thing contributes to that when you're just either a conservative comedian doing it to a conservative crowd or a liberal comedian repeating the jokes to a liberal crowd.
It's very hard to do humor in that sort of context, I think.
Well, I think it's sort of, you know, what are you doing, you know, on stage?
Is it, you know, are you just regurgitating what your audience already believes because you want that kind of acceptance?
Or are you out to say something that is going to surprise them and hopefully elicit the laugh?
You know, I think, you know, we need to figure out what our goals are when we go up on stage because I still want to make people laugh.
So do you think, is comedy dead?
I don't think comedy's dead.
I mean, well, I mean, the fact that I'm doing this podcast right now, like Babylon Bee, I mean, the success that you guys have had, you know, over the years is, you know, is amazing.
And I feel like rather than comedy being dead, I think the places where people normally would look to comedy are, you know, either all the way dead or dying very, you know, very slowly and agonizingly.
You know, like late night shows or, you know, shows like SNL.
Yeah.
I don't think people look to comedy there anymore.
Because I remember when I started making videos we put on YouTube, whatever idea we had, we were like, look, we have to shoot this and we have to edit it and it needs to get out by Saturday morning at the latest.
And it's like, why?
Why that?
Because if SNL does it, then we just wasted all this time, all this money, and we don't have the pockets that big shows have.
And I haven't felt that way in a really long time.
Now I'm pretty comfortable with, yeah, there's whatever joke I'm putting out, there's no way that SNL is going to touch it.
Or any of the main, or any of the mainstream.
But now I'm thinking like, oh, is this joke something like the Babylon Bee already did?
Or, man, does Ryan Long have a, you know, does he take on this thing?
Does Kyle Dunigan, has he done this already?
You know, so the competitors where I'm looking are, you know, online competitors and, you know, independent artists rather than the big guys with the, you know, the writers' rooms that seem to all staff the same exact people writing the same exact punchlines.
Yeah, unless we're making a joke about Trump being fat or being Hitler, there's not really that big of a chance that Stephen Colbert is going to do that joke tonight.
We had to cancel our dancing vaccines.
Yeah, we did have the dancing.
Was it going to be break dancing vaccine?
Like, are you guys going to be a little hipper?
Ours was different, but it's like, no, it's still too close.
He beat us.
He beat us to the strong dancing vaccine.
Ours were doing the Macarena, but we figured it was the same jokes.
I'm wondering where we are now.
Are we the Weimar Republic?
Are we Nazi Germany?
Because when Trump was in office, we were like, we were Nazi Germany, right?
But now he's out.
And then I just saw what was there, a tweet by Ellen Barkin said we're Germany 1933.
So now, like, we're doing time traveling.
We went backwards.
Yeah, we went backwards.
Yeah.
I'm like, wow, that's really interesting.
Well, it's always that Trump wasn't so bad.
The previous Republican is always, well, he wasn't so bad.
The next guy is Hitler.
That's always how it is.
Because now they're saying DeSantis is way worse than Trump.
Wow.
That's the new thing that they're saying.
But, you know, whatever.
I'll vote for Hitler.
Do you have any hope that late night will come back?
Because I grew up loving late night comedy.
That's like SNL, Conan, Letterman.
Those were the shows that I idolized, that I watched every night.
Those were the sketches and the bits and the jokes that my friends and I repeated.
And it's sad to see what's happened to it.
And I agree with you that, you know, sketches as they moved sort of to online platforms, to streaming services, as they, you know, take on this life of their own on social media, it's becoming something different.
But it's like there's this deep part of me that still wants SNL to like re-emerge, you know, with the new cast, new writers eventually had ups and downs, or a new late night host or somebody to come in.
Do you think there's any hope for that, or is it all in the past and shifting to something new?
Well, it's weird to see, like, even when a new host comes around, right?
For it to be the same format, like the same, okay, here's your monologue.
Now here's your desk piece, and here are the interviews, and we're going to have like these sketches.
But now, the way that times have gone, these things are going to live and do much better online than before.
And it's not like we don't have like that must-watch TV.
Like people are like, oh, we got to stay up because we have to catch Letterman tonight.
So I don't know.
I don't think.
Or Jay Leno.
Yeah.
We're talking about comedy fans here.
Oh, okay.
Hey, Jay, I want to do your show, man.
I don't know anything about cars, but I want to do your show.
But so, yeah, I think that there's a, I think a lot of that hope is definitely built on nostalgia.
Yeah.
Like you have.
It is.
Where I'm more interested to see, like, well, what new thing could be done with that, you know, in that space that we haven't seen before?
Yeah, and SNL still shows some signs of life on occasion.
Yeah.
It's a good sketch.
It's just not as consistently good as it used to be.
Yeah, but they've got some good stuff.
Weekend Update, I think, occasionally has some good jokes still.
Yeah.
So.
One of the things that I so I was reading through your book, and I think one of the things that I found interesting, you have a line in there when you were talking about Hannah Gadsby's special and how that kind of took off and the things that were kind of happening in comedy at that time.
And there's a line that I love where you said, comedy used to be used to sublimate trauma, and now it's just used to present trauma.
Can you explain your thoughts on that a little bit?
Because I found that very interesting.
A ghost writer wrote his book, so he doesn't remember that line.
No, we're not talking about your book.
Oh, we're talking about comments.
I'll give him a call.
I'll give him a call.
Yeah, you know, I look at one of my favorite comedians of all time is Richard Pryor.
Yeah.
And Richard had this incredible ability to live an insane life and then present it on stage and make people, you know, just laugh uncontrollably about it.
I would never want Richard Pryor to date my sister, right, or to be in a relationship with anybody, anybody I love because I know how those go.
But when it comes to if there's somebody who's going to present some of the most, the darkest, most messed up things that can happen to a human being, I want it to be Richard Pryor because there is laughter in that.
There's the ability to go to really dark places and find the funny in it.
That I think is just, I call it in my boys.
It's like magic when you're able to do it.
And the stuff with Hannah Gatsby, at least in her first, the first special that I watched of hers, Nanette, there's a big chunk of that special where it's just presenting this horrific sexual assault that she went through and it's horrible, right?
And there's like no light at the end of it.
And in her follow-up special, she talks about it and she had a good line of.
You watched the follow-up special.
I did watch it for you, man.
I kept it.
And she had a good line.
She's like, I watched one Hannah Gatsby special.
I was like, fool me once.
Well, she asked the crowd.
She's like, if you saw that and you're back here because of that, she's like, what's wrong with it?
She's self-aware enough.
And it made me wonder, why would you sort of project that onto your audience?
You sort of trick them into coming in because they think they're going to see a comedy show.
And then instead, you give them this just incredibly awful recounting of what you went through.
And there must be a desire there, I think, to inflict some pain on your audience.
But it's like, where is the laughter out of that?
And one of the things that I found, we do stand-up.
And I don't know if you've ever been on a mixed show where it's like storytelling.
No, I do whites-only shows.
Oh, wait, you're talking about a different kind of mix.
And good, yeah, good idea.
Just stick into those rooms.
Much easier, you know.
But, you know, I do like these.
Black rooms would be easier to do comedy in.
I don't know.
No, honestly, I love doing black.
I'll do any room out there.
Black rooms are very fun, mixed crowds.
But no, that's not what he's talking about.
The J-Spot.
I've never done the J-Spot.
That's been a good one.
I'm saying like mixed shows where you have stand-up comics and storytelling.
I've never heard of this movie.
Yeah.
So I can't tell you how many shows I've done where I've had to follow like somebody talking about a horrific experience, like similar to Hannah Gatsby.
Like a real heavy, like I was health issue or assault or just raped down.
And then I found out that I have kidney cancer.
And then I have to follow that and be like, whoa, dating's hard, isn't it?
And it's like, oh, it's rough, man.
It's rough out there.
Where does that dating hard joke go?
Dating is a hard joke.
Where does it go?
Is that a real joke?
Is that a real setup for one of your jokes?
Is it?
I don't know.
I don't know.
It's a real setup for 90% of open microscopes.
So dating is hard, you guys.
Dating isn't hard.
Yeah, I don't think dating is hard now.
Because you're married now.
Yeah, yeah.
It'd be hard for my wife.
It would be hard on her.
Yeah.
If I just insisted, like, look, I just need to go buy dinner for other women.
That's really what I need to do.
Dating is harder when you're married.
So did your wife mirror you knowing you were a stand-up comic?
Or did you spring that on her later?
No, no, no.
No, she knew everything about it.
She actually wanted to talk with her ahead of time.
Yeah, yeah.
She knew what she was getting into.
And she moved out to, we were dating, I think, like three weeks.
And I told her, you know, I said I was bi-coastal.
I'm actually moving to L.A.
So we moved to L.A. and we did long distance for a year, which when I look back, I'm like, I have no idea who that guy is.
I have no clue.
That sounds insane.
A long distance for a year, someone you just met.
But eventually she moved out and she would come to all of the shows that I hosted and all that.
So she was a really big supporter.
And so she actually got a taste of all the material that I was doing.
And it was like, all right, you sure about this?
She was still interested.
She was still interested.
But I think that that's, I don't know if we're talking about relationships.
I think honesty is just so important in relationships.
It's like if you're a devout Christian and imagine hiding that from someone who you want to start a family with.
It just doesn't, like, that's just insane.
It's like, no, this is who you are.
This is your part of your being.
You need that to be out there.
And I've saw a similar thing with comedy.
It's like, no, like, I'm going to be doing material.
I'm going to be talking about terrible experiences that I had, you know, dating with other women and all that.
And it's like, just, you know, be prepared.
And she's been so cool about it for sure.
Okay.
Fortunately.
Now, you got two kids, right?
And they're young.
Has that changed your perspective at all in life and comedy?
And I mean, for me, my kids just brought me so much joy and such a constant source of humor.
Well, one thing that I found was Or are they just terrible?
Well Well, for one, early on, I was a little upset because my oldest wouldn't laugh at anything I did.
It was a tough crowd.
Yeah, man.
But mommy, he was all about mommy.
Like anything that mommy did.
And obviously she has the breasts.
That's a bit of an advantage.
Yeah.
Audiences never outgrow.
No, no, no, no.
I've been to open mics where I'm like, that girl's not funny.
She has breasts.
You can get those giant ones.
That shop teacher.
The Canadian shop teacher.
Yeah.
Canadian shop teacher now has like a completely different picture in your mind.
No, I think I, well, I, I, we had our first during during the pandemic.
So we had ours, our first in March of 2020.
So the first like few months of his life and my life with him was a lot of like me being paranoid that, you know, basically the plague was going to destroy our family and, you know, and take out, you know, take out all of us.
So that was a drag.
You know, and, you know, fortunately, though, I think comedy definitely helped me, you know, get over that or deal with that, deal with that stuff.
Again, like being able to take like some of the dark stuff and turn that into some light.
But now it's just sleep deprivation.
You know, like I, my son, my oldest is two.
The youngest is going to be 11 months.
Dudes don't like to sleep, man.
Like they, it's just, it's incredible.
It's like torture.
It sounds wonderful.
Yeah, man.
That's a delight.
It's the last experience.
Well, that's the thing, too.
And, you know, sometimes I was coming on, you know, preparing myself for this and I was just like, the audience doesn't care if I haven't slept.
The audience doesn't care if whatever I'm going through in my personal life, I got to perform.
I wore shorts.
I didn't realize what I was getting into.
Do you think the audience, do people generally know that there's this taboo against wearing shorts on stage when you do stand-up?
Like you've heard that before.
Yeah, I've never heard that.
You've never heard that?
As a stand-up, like you will, other comics will notice and talk about if someone did stand up wearing shorts.
Yeah, it's just this.
I don't know if it makes the set go bad.
Is it a luck thing?
I mean, it's not about luck.
I don't know where it came from, but it just became like don't wear shorts on stage.
Is it a leg thing?
Like, are people insecure about their legs?
Like, growing up, I was always insecure about my calves, the size of my calves.
Yeah.
And I've gotten over that.
I'm like, look, you know, I'm a dude with, you know, I don't have grapefruit calves.
Yeah.
I'm just going to live my life.
So I wonder if that has something to do with it.
I feel you there, but no one can tell because I didn't wear shorts.
I could have beautiful calves under here.
Yeah.
To the imagination.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, then what would that be like, though, if you go to a stand-up show and there's a guy with just like the most amazing legs.
And you're like, dude, I couldn't, I couldn't.
I wasn't laughing because his legs are scary.
If you would laugh more like the way they laugh at the attractive women because they're breasts, they'd be like, oh, this guy's really funny.
Look at those great calves.
Look at these great calves.
Legs are the breasts of men.
But yeah, I messed up.
I wore the calf and I wore the calves.
I think it's okay to wear shorts for an interview.
I've never heard a taboo against that, but I've definitely heard over and over again.
I mean, to be fair, I wasn't given the shot list.
So I had no idea what was going to be here and what wasn't going to be here.
Yeah.
Now, another part of the body you mentioned in your book is the fupa.
There's a reference to a fupa in there, and I got excited because Bettina, one of our co-workers here, she's also a nurse.
And we discuss fupas a lot.
Are we allowed to say what a fupa is?
Kyle?
Depends on what it is.
What was it?
The front upper.
See, there's two, I think there's a dirtier.
The one I've always heard is the fat upper pubic area.
Yeah, I'd use a different P-word for that.
He didn't say what it is.
If you thought it, that's your fault.
You know what that word is.
No, I didn't.
Christian over here.
Yeah, now I'm trying to remember.
You know, I guess I have multiple references to fupas throughout the book.
Oh, yeah.
There are little Easter eggs in there.
Buy the book and just, you know, it's a little Easter egg hunt.
Find all the Fupa references.
Yeah, because where's Waldo?
Yeah.
Find Fupa.
Find the Fupa.
And then with some of the pages, if you twist it, you could actually see a Fupa.
Oh, really?
Like a magic eye if you stare at a Fupa popping up.
I put a lot of thought into this.
Yeah, I kind of see a Fupa as sort of emblematic of the comedy times that we're living in.
It's probably not necessary to bring that part of the book up, but Bettina and I were talking about Fupas all day yesterday, and then I went home and read your book, and I'm like, ah, there was.
Do you have an all-day conversation about fupas?
What?
Because what came up?
Tina is a nurse.
Oh, we've been calling Fupupupupa.
And she frequently has to lift fupas.
And, you know, there's a lot of like in the same way, there's that sort of morbid, gross fascination with like pimple popping.
So do only fat people love them?
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't really think you could get the flap of front.
It's like they call it front button.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's like, you know, when you see a fat person, sometimes they have that like extra bulge here, and you're like, what is that?
What part of it?
That's the fupa.
It all makes sense now.
It's kind of like a human, like a version of like a bulldog, you know, like the flaps.
You got to get in there, you got to clean that.
Yeah.
Clean that out.
But I guess I reference it in reference to a woman who started some trash with me on the street.
Yeah, she yelled at you for not wearing a mask for not wearing them.
But outside in public.
And I'm like, should put a mask on that fupa.
You know what I'm saying?
Mask up.
I feel like you're punching down in that situation.
I might be.
Well, yeah, because the fupa is lower.
You have to punch down.
You got to change levels.
Yes.
So, yeah, punching up, punching down.
Is that a thing?
Or do you care?
Well, I think, you know, you often hear about the punching up versus punching down.
And I think there's something so condescending to say like, I'm sorry, but I can't make fun of you because you are below me.
So have it, you know, have, you know, go about, you know, go about your day.
And I often find like instances of that online, on like Twitter, and people are coming at me.
And it's like, look, this is a really good example of punching up because this person is just so low and beneath me.
But I think those rules in comedy, the whole punching up versus punching down, seems like a really sneaky way to protect people from criticism or ideas from criticism.
And you guys must, you know, you see it all the time where it's like, you know, how can you, you know, how dare you say that to a woman?
You know, and it's like, well, but whatever she's saying, that's what I'm responding.
That's the vice president of the United States.
Exactly.
Yeah.
But whatever their most oppressed intersectional class is, that becomes their entire identity.
Right.
Like you can't make fun of them, even though they're way more powerful than you.
Yes.
You're the powerful one punching down.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
And yeah, and Kamala is definitely an interesting, you know, not that we ever make fun of Kamala, but as an example.
Yeah.
But no, but it's, yeah, it's totally bonkers where, you know, you would think like, like, say you were following that rule that it would be used, you know, like, okay, so-and-so is homeless or so-and-so is, you know, crippled, or I don't know if you could say that word.
But no, then it ends up being used against, you know, leaders of the country.
And I remember seeing that during the Obama administration where if I was making fun of Obama, people were saying like, oh, you must be doing it because either you're a racist or you're a racist with hate in your heart.
And it's like, no, I just, I don't like his foreign policy.
Like, that's what I'm trying to, you know, to make fun of.
You're literally treating him like you would treat any other politician that you disagreed with on that issue.
Exactly.
And when it comes to groups, especially when they claim you're punching down if you make fun of this group, in an era where sort of oppression and identity has become a currency, that is a form of power they have.
And they're wielding that power.
When they say they can, you know, get you fired from your job if you don't agree with us or you don't speak the words we want you to speak or adopt the ideas.
They are in a position of power there.
Even if they're a minority of the population, even if in some aspects of their life they see themselves as underdogs or an oppressed class, when you're able to wield that power to influence other people, you're not punching down by attacking them, trying to force their beliefs or their political power over their people.
No, I agree.
Like the example that I've always given with that is like there's the backlash against Chappelle over the transgender jokes.
And there's been other comedians, including myself, where I've talked about the transgender stuff and joked about it in stand-up.
I, when I started stand-up, had no interest in doing transgender jokes.
It wasn't like I went on stage.
I was like, I'm going to go after transgender people.
And if you look at stand-up from the 90s, early 2000s, it wasn't a common topic.
You maybe hear some hacky jokes about like cross-dressers or it wasn't like a problem.
But they were like body jokes.
It wasn't a pointed joke at that community.
The only time you started going after them is when they started wielding political power because it's not punching down anymore.
It is punching up at people that are trying to wield their identity as political power over other people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's, I think it also shows, you know, one of the goals, I guess, you could say about comedy is to take on sacred cows.
Yeah.
And which is definitely changing year to year or now week to week.
And it's like, well, okay, well, what's the thing we're not supposed to make fun of?
Okay, why aren't we supposed to make fun of that?
Okay, let's see if I can make fun of that.
You know, let's see if I can craft a good joke about it.
And yeah, and I guess with the hope being, you know, it's like, well, I don't think anything should be off limits when it comes to comedy.
Definitely nothing should be off limits when it comes to discussion.
Yeah.
And it's sort of like, you know, that's sort of, I don't know, that's kind of been weird too with comedy where it's sort of like it's been given the same import, importance as, you know, debate, you know, about like policy and stuff like that.
And it's like, it's like, don't hold me to the same standards as you would, you know, your representative.
Yeah.
Did you have any kind of political journey arriving where you are now?
Or were you born with these principles as an infant?
I was, let's see, I think I always had kind of an anti-authoritarian streak to me.
I think a really corny example of that is like, I didn't really like mall security or like security at my college.
Punch up on the mall.
Yeah.
Who do you think you are, bro?
But I think my journey, my journey politically has sort of gone from liberal and then probably to a libertarian sort of thing.
And then now I'm sort of like and cap some days and stuff.
But even that, I kind of feel like the labels are just so limited as far as what they can say about you.
Because I know so many libertarians who are conservative libertarians who live a very the complete opposite of a burning man that you could possibly live while still adhering to these principles.
But I think one thing that being like a libertarian has done for me is that every four years, no matter who wins, I'm going to be unhappy.
And it just kind of puts me in like this natural, this natural place where it's like, okay, well, whoever's in power, I'm ready to make fun of them.
Before Trump won, which was a huge surprise.
I don't know if it was a surprise for you guys.
It's shocking.
We had articles prepped for Hillary's win.
And that night we're like, what are we going to do?
We have no content for tomorrow.
Dude, exactly.
I was working at Ellen at the time, and it was like a funeral the next day when I walked in.
It was just like, I was happy.
I didn't even vote for him.
I voted like third party because I didn't want to vote for Hillary or Trump at the time.
I later became more of a Trump supporter, but at the time I was a never Trumper, but I was glad that it was him and not Hillary.
And there was also something just fun about that upset.
And I came in and yeah, the tone was just so morose and it was like, it was so dark.
And what was so odd to me about it was, now I wasn't a libertarian.
I was always, as soon as I became sort of politically aware, I was always more conservative.
But I honestly don't think any candidate I've ever voted for has won.
Like it's usually somebody else.
And so me, to me, that's just a normal feeling.
It's, ah, that guy I didn't vote for won.
But for them, it was like they were just down and dark.
And I'm like, get over it.
Yeah.
What is this?
Yeah, I mean, I definitely experienced a lot of Schadenfreude.
Yeah.
Where I remember I was just texting back and forth with a buddy of mine.
He was in California.
I was in Brooklyn, Brooklyn Heights.
And he's a gay, conservative Republican.
And as we got closer and closer to the final polling, he's like, darling, go have a drink.
And I was like, what is going on?
So I went to my local bar in Brooklyn Heights and the hysteria in there was insane.
It was just, I don't even remember if it was cold out, but like, I just remember all the guys having like scarves and like the scarves just as like the polls came in, just started constricting more and more.
And it's like their whole world was just crumbling around them.
It was just, it's like they were, it was biblical, you know, like their.
what they were going through.
And I think for, you know, for a lot of people, watching, you know, others, you know, especially in the other political, on the other side of politics, just have breakdowns and go insane was really joyful.
Yeah.
And, and, and I think, I think that's probably why a lot of people, you know, kind of let a lot of Trump's stuff just slide where it's like, yeah, but he's, he's making everybody I hate miserable.
Like, yeah, give me that just for just for a, just one term of that, you know, and then we can get back to, you know, politics as usual.
Yeah.
Now, I knew you back in when you were living in LA.
I know you did sketch comedy at the time.
You used to do, was it called We the People, that panel show?
We the Internet TV.
We the Internet TV.
What was the panel show?
The panel was Unsafe Space.
Unsafe Space.
So you had Unsafe Space out here, which was a sort of bipartisan, like balanced kind of political discussion with comedians.
You're on We the Internet TV.
I know when you started, you were doing sketch comedy in New York.
When you got into comedy, did you want to be a political comedian or did you want to just kind of do general comedy?
Like, how did how, because I always wanted that too.
Like, I talk about politics a lot now, but I didn't go into comedy wanting to be a political comedian.
Yeah, I did not see myself doing that at all.
And I think, I don't know, I don't know if it was like this for you in your journey through comedy where I kind of go where the gigs, where the gigs took me.
And with We the Internet TV, I hadn't done any political stuff leading up to that.
I think I did the closest I got was, I think Obama was running for reelection and I did a video about, you know, we need to re-elect Obama, not just for four years, but for the next 4,000 years, because without him, everything is just going to go, you know, it's just going to go terribly wrong.
And that was the closest that I ever got, you know, to doing something politically.
And then with We the Internet TV, it was an opportunity to sort of bring together 13 years of sketch comedy with some of my politics that I hadn't really talked about.
And, you know, so it's sort of like when that fusion happened, I think it surprised a lot of people too.
A lot of people who had done my shows and stuff, and they just knew like, oh, yeah, that's Lou.
And he's a nice guy.
Yeah.
Wow, he's a really nice guy.
And he always has a smile on his face.
And he tries to pump the crowd up and really get the show going and all that.
And then when they find out, you know, where I, where my stance is on guns, they're like, how can, wait, but you're a nice guy.
How can you believe that?
He's not computing.
It does not compute.
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I got up on stage and I thought, I'm a comedian.
They're all black.
They're going to love this one.
And the first line I said was, man, I got to tell you, I feel like President Obama right now because I have the opportunity to disappoint so many black people and there was nothing.
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