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Dec. 1, 2022 - The Adam King Show

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EP003: "Piccadilly Circus"

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	I'd like to welcome everybody to the Adam King show.
	I am Adam King, your host, joined with the one and only Rock Breath.
	Rock, how you doing? It's been a long time since we've had our last show, and I'm excited to be back.
	Yeah, I'm doing really good, thanks.
	I'm glad that I'm back as well.
	What's the weather like on the East Coast?
	Well, today it was really, really, really, really nice.
	Couldn't ask for any better weather.
	70 degrees, perfect weather.
	Yeah, it's been about 75 here in Southern California.
	Perfect weather. Everything is great.
	No complaints. The news cycle's been quiet.
	Not so many things happening, which is good.
	Yeah, it's really unusual.
	They're building up.
	They're waiting. They're waiting to get a little closer to elections before they really dump zombie apocalypse on us.
	You see that 60 minute with Joe Biden where he said, what inflation?
	It's only going up 0.1%.
	No, I didn't happen to see it, but I did see all the comments in regard to what he said.
	I wish we had a...
	He was confused with the 1 % that he's involved in.
	Exactly, exactly.
	He is that 1%.
	I'm going to throw up one meme for us really quick.
	Sure. To describe our economy, I've never seen a better depiction of that than this.
	That's true!
	That's true!
	Hey, there. Excuse me, everybody.
	But this is what America has become right now.
	It's a cesspool of absolute failing companies as the president chastises his enemies.
	What a really nice guy.
	I love the president.
	What a schmuck, right?
	What a really filthy schmuck.
	Am I allowed to say piece of shit?
	You could say whatever you want, man.
	Thank you. Well, you know, I just said it, so.
	Well, on that note, I'm going to bring in our panel.
	And we got a great panel tonight full of comedians, musicians, entertainers, less politics, more fun tonight.
	How do you like that? I'm really looking forward to it.
	Have a great show.
	I'm right here if you need me. Thanks, Rock.
	I'll see you soon.
	Very good.
	All right.
	And as our panel slowly creeps in...
	we have joining us tonight, all the way from New Jersey, the Holy Land, World-famous impersonator Ami Kozak.
	I don't even know which person to say that you're impersonating the most these days.
	It's either Gary Vaynerchuk or Jordan Peterson, but the list is endless.
	I think you can impersonate anybody.
	I think you can even probably take over and be me for the rest of the show.
	We have writer-director Zach Grashin, producer of several films, probably one of the funniest people I know, and lead singer of Robot Nature, Deepak Ramparian.
	How you guys all doing today?
	Great! Very good.
	I thought I was the lead singer of some band and I was like, uh-oh.
	I was like, I'm not prepared to answer any questions, but Deepak, I guess you are.
	I'm not even the lead singer of anything.
	I'm just solo guy named Deepak Future.
	But I mean, I think we're all living in the illusion of being a lead singer of a fantasy world that we could all be in the lead singers together of.
	Maybe this is the band right here.
	World-famous impersonator, I'm not so sure, but in your world, maybe.
	I think by the end of the episode, Adam, I'll have you down.
	We'll see. All five of us will know who you are by the end of this show.
	Good. And all five of us had to correct your descriptions of us.
	Boom. You know what?
	And we'll all be a band, and Adam will be the lead singer.
	Listen, we could put together a song right now, guys.
	We could change the world in a song.
	We got Ami behind you.
	Look at all these instruments. Ami, what do you play most, Ami?
	What's your lead instrument?
	I'm a vocalist and bassist.
	Those are my two main instruments.
	Do you specialize exclusively in canceled mainstream impersonation?
	I guess Gary. Gary's not canceled.
	Never mind. I do feel like the Zoom room is like canceled anonymous.
	I don't know what's going on. Adam's hosting the underground for canceled people, even though none of us are yet, but maybe that's what happens here.
	You know, I didn't get canceled, but I got shadow banned.
	And you know, I'll tell you how...
	As Gary would say, honestly, saying you're shadowbanned, that's an excuse.
	Right, Adam? That's an excuse, right?
	Stop complaining, okay?
	Wait. Gary, I'm sorry.
	That's a real shit. Stop complaining.
	You're not shadowbanned, okay?
	You're lazy. Okay, I'm lazy, all right?
	I'm lazy. Okay. I'll fix it.
	I'll fix it. Jeez.
	What's your marketing budget?
	No, I'm just kidding. But no, seriously, I want to play some clips of you.
	Ami, you just got off of tour with Gary, right?
	Tell us about the tour. Yeah, Gary initiated this inaugural conference for his NFT holders, the holders of his original NFT that he rolled out called VFriends.
	And he put together a conference basically around NFTs.
	That took place a few months back in Minneapolis at the big football stadium there.
	And it was a very cool conference where they basically had all these different, you know, celebrities that are getting involved with NFTs.
	And like Spike Lee was there, Snoop Dogg, Pharrell, Logan Paul, all these people.
	I saw the thing with Tom Cruise.
	That was hilarious. Yeah, that was a different thing.
	But the way I got there was I've been doing a lot of One of my reoccurring bits is Gary V Impressions on TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube. And you do enough of that stuff on TikTok and it's a pretty powerful platform in that it can reach a lot of people and eventually reached his team.
	And we had a correspondence and we basically did a big opening ceremony sketch with me, another impersonator, comedian, and Gary V himself.
	And we did a whole opening ceremony of the conference and kicked things off with a bunch of shtick.
	Go ahead. I'm gonna play that clip while you you could talk a little bit while I find it I gotta figure out where I emailed you a clip but it was it was a lot of fun and it was very cool because I actually I'm not I'm not I kind of follow NFTs just from a distance I don't really I'm not involved in it but as a comedian it was a It was like Purim shtick on steroids.
	And I've been preparing for it my whole life, doing synagogue dinners and whatnot.
	And this was just right up my alley.
	Did you get to meet a lot of the NFT holders?
	Yeah. Yes.
	I actually, somebody made me one.
	Check this out here. I'll grab this.
	I bumped into someone just like happened to be and he We bumped into this one guy who's an NFT artist who drew this for me on the spot, and I'm number 149.
	He was giving out like 200 of these, and it's actually an NFT with a QR code.
	You scan it. So this is the only one I own.
	Because it was a cool experience.
	He got it for free. And he gave it to me.
	I found that clip.
	I'm going to play that clip right now and let the audience.
	It was pretty wild. It was a cool experience, as you'll see.
	Enter the Garyverse VCon.
	I'm going to play the onstage show first.
	Yeah, sure. Here we go.
	Please welcome Gary Vaynerchuk.
	Okay? My name is Gary Vaynerchuk, Series 2.
	I'm just so fucking happy to be the only real, authentic, Gary Vee.
	Right check, one, two, hold on one second, fucker.
	Bro, who the fuck are you?
	I'm Gary Vee, Series 3.
	Who the fuck are you, kid?
	So, bro, like, I'm not the only Gary Vee?
	Nope. There's two of us?
	Yep. Empathy!
	Macro patience! Fuck yeah!
	Perspective! Love that shit!
	When I say tick, you say talk!
	Tick! Tick!
	When I say linked, you say in!
	Linked! Linked!
	In! Open hand fist bump.
	My man. Can I get a hit of that?
	On some real shit. Fucking delicious.
	That didn't show when he came out.
	I love the part when Gary comes out and you say, Daddy's here!
	Yeah, yeah, I think that might be the next clip.
	But if you go to my YouTube channel or my Instagram or TikTok, you'll find all the clips about V-Con.
	I don't want to speak ill of the other impersonator, but positively speaking, you were way superior, in my opinion.
	I know. How does that guy even resemble Gary V? Well, he does it from a different angle, you know?
	He does a more exaggerated, different kind of version, and I do a...
	To Gary Vee.
	Teepaw, do you pay attention to Gary Vee at all?
	I follow him, yeah.
	I think I follow him mostly through Ami's Instagram.
	I think that's, like, the only access I have to Gary Vee.
	He appeared a lot more definitely when NFT started getting wild, for sure.
	He got rich off of that.
	I mean, Zach, you work for an NFT project, correct?
	Or you own an NFT project?
	I mean, I own a few NFTs and I am building an NFT-based entertainment company, yes. And then, because it's LA, I also work with a company that is building NFT. related stuff that I definitely can't talk about because if this is on the internet, I get in trouble. But definitely what I'm building is really geared to just make artists have more opportunities and way better content than a lot of the shit that we're currently seeing.
	I love your background.
	Can you explain your background to us?
	Well, I am one of the I'm Venezuelans for the Vineyard.
	I have joined the group.
	We're a small group, only 51 of us at this point.
	But, you know, I support whatever journey we take, whether it's from Venezuela to Martha's Vineyard or back to Florida, you know, because I'm a Venezuelan for the Vin.
	That is hilarious.
	Deepak, what was your take on that whole Martha's Vineyard shtick?
	I don't even know if I saw it.
	I gotta catch up what's going on here.
	I appreciate that you're not paying attention to the news.
	It's refreshing that not everybody's glued to their TVs.
	Basically, Ron DeSantis sent 50 illegal immigrants to Martha's Vineyard and the liberals had a shit fit and Sent 125 police, even though Martha's Vineyard is a, what are they called?
	Sanctuary city? Sanctuary, right?
	And they deported them.
	Within about 48 hours of them arriving, they were deported.
	And Ron Asantis was accused of, you know, playing Playing games with these people's lives, even though it's pretty clear that he was sending them to a very safe place versus just allowing people.
	I thought it was a brilliant and hilarious political move.
	Well, to be fair, he was playing games, but both things can be true.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sounds like a pretty smart move to shine some reflection of hypocrisy moves at everybody.
	I don't think the intentions were humanitarian as much as shining a light on the hypocrisy on the left, which he clearly did.
	And also what people, it kind of has a bit of cringe to go around because you're like, okay, but you didn't do this for the reasons you're claiming you did this.
	You did it to play the game.
	And he landed the punch.
	Sounds like part of the shtick even saying it's for humanitarian purposes.
	What's that? Sounds like that's part of the shtick is even claiming it's humanitarian.
	It's clearly sounds like a good shtick.
	Yeah, yeah. The only issue is that if we're all being honest with ourselves, like, you know, I guess, you know, these people in the middle of it are real people trying to figure things out and to be used as political pawns.
	It's a fair critique to say that you did that.
	But it's also equally fair to say...
	You know, but the estimates, they're saying that over 10 million people have come into this country since Joe Biden took power.
	And, you know, that's bigger than the U.S. Army, just to put it into scope.
	U.S. Army has 1.4 million soldiers.
	Right. I'm just curious, when you say they're, who are you talking about, Adam?
	Which they're? You said they're saying?
	The news. Newsmax or CNN? Actually, they said that almost two million have come in this.
	They had a record two million in one month.
	Well, definitely a lot.
	No, no, definitely a lot. I mean, you're definitely right.
	They were they were I mean, these people had cameras in their face and they got carded.
	However, it was like, what else?
	How else are you going to prove the point?
	You know what I mean? I think that was your point is like you got to play both ways.
	But I don't know.
	It's just how else do you even bring people together, Adam?
	Isn't that why we're on this show? You bring people together through comedy and with that said...
	That's true. Everybody look at this meme.
	Have you seen a meme so perfect and poignant as this?
	Is that...
	Ocasio-Cortez?
	That's Ocasio-Cortez.
	They took this picture of her from her time at the southern border and they superimposed it onto Martha's Vineyard.
	The best take actually I saw was Tim Dillon.
	You guys know Tim Dillon? No, well, he always has the best take.
	He said, he was like, listen, people, what he did was disgusting.
	He sent these people to Martha's Vineyard.
	The season is over!
	Okay? It's after Labor Day.
	You send them to Palm Beach.
	You send them somewhere nice during the winter fall season, okay?
	The season's over.
	It goes Memorial Day to Labor Day.
	Nothing's going on there anymore.
	I'll tell you, sometimes Zach actually helps me with some writing for the show.
	And when it happened, I mean, we got on the phone, we were going crazy.
	Zach had the most brilliant idea ever to do a skit of the top five things that migrant Venezuelans can do in Martha's Vineyard.
	Before we even got to the show, they were out of Martha's Vineyard and the joke can't be.
	It was like, yeah, it was the night of the next day.
	I like that your Tim Dillon is also like a little bit Trump, like he's probably in the same family.
	Okay. Trump's a little bit different, folks.
	A little bit different. A little bit different.
	I do the hands. The hands are similar.
	They're a little similar, folks. But not quite the same.
	You didn't know I could do that. You didn't know I could do that.
	But that's okay. It's okay.
	Very... Adam Cakes.
	Who's your favorite person to impersonate?
	It doesn't need to be a marketable impression.
	Like, it doesn't need to make any money, but who's, like, your favorite?
	Because I was a really good Trump.
	Yeah, I think there are better Trumps than me out there as far as impressions go.
	I don't know. I get that question a lot, but I don't have a favorite.
	I guess whoever's the funniest At the time that I'm enjoying doing, because like you do, if you do an impression and then people really like it and you do it a lot, it can get, you can wear it out on yourself and it's not so fresh anymore.
	Do you think that the Gary Vee has worn out on you?
	Once I hit VCon and then some, you got to take breaks a little bit, but it's more about where I can find the funniest bits, because the impression is sort of the sugar on top of the cake.
	I always kind of write sketches and bits with the impression being something that enhances what I'm doing, but it's really like, where's the funny? You know, like, An impression is fun, but it can be a hacky party trick if it's just like, look at me, I'm Donald Trump!
	I know, I'm sick of the Donald Trump impression.
	But if you do it in a funny way, like write it into a bit, I'm much more interested in that.
	Deepak, do you do comedy at all or is it just music by you?
	I mean, I've done comedy, but not, you know, it's just sort of like in the moment, in the fly, like being on, being in sketches or being, you know, being in theater, things like that.
	A lot of it's in the moment, a lot of it's like we're hanging out and stuff like this, jokes come up, you know, it's got to be in the flow, but it's not something I've like actively like, all right, I'm going to do comedy and then go create it, you know, I've just, it's just more organically appeared, you know?
	Guys, I want you to know that this is one of the most talented musicians I've ever seen.
	Deepak actually lost his house in the Woolsey Fire.
	And as like an homage to the fire, he recorded a music video.
	I wish I had that music video to play here.
	And we'll post a link on the YouTubes and the Rumbles and all the streaming channels because it's so brilliant.
	But he's a violinist and he plays this melody.
	And I think that's, Deepak, when I really fell in love with your music.
	And I'm actually gonna play a clip of Robot Nature so that people can understand what Robot Nature is.
	But before I get into that clip, you know, it takes brilliance to truly make art.
	And Deepak is one of the smartest people that I've met.
	In fact, not only is he such a free thinker, but a tremendous patriot.
	He organizes every year a And you guys are like this because you're both Jewish like me.
	A ceremonial reading of the Declaration of Independence on the 4th of July.
	It's kind of like the Megillah of the 4th of July.
	And I went this year and I was so touched by it.
	What started that for you?
	It actually started 20 years ago, and a bunch of friends of mine, we were just kind of joking, like, it's July 4th, like, what is this July 4th?
	What's the purpose of it? Where did it even come from?
	We didn't remember, because, you know, we all went through school and may not have taken it seriously, because, you know, in school, you're just kind of goofing around a lot.
	So we were kind of in our teens, like, in our older, you know, college-type age, and we were just like, What is this Declaration of Independence?
	We decided to read it kind of being funny and we started reading it with funny like British voices and just kind of but then by like halfway through it it started actually hitting us in our bodies as an actual like this is an amazing document and by the end we were actually legitimately genuinely serious.
	We started out literally being funny, doing impersonations and voices of what the colonialists could have sounded like and all this stuff.
	By the end, we were like, this is amazing.
	We just became a yearly tradition to actually genuinely read it every year.
	I've been hosting it really just every year.
	Now that I'm in California, I do it on the beach in front of Gladstones every July 4th at 9.30 in the morning.
	Whoever wants to come, I post it on Facebook, post it on Instagram, and people show up.
	You know, we read it together and, you know, we talk about it.
	Maybe we have conversations, whatever.
	You know, it's different every year. Sometimes we play Frisbee for a while.
	We have people bring music and we jam.
	We sing patriotic songs. Depends on who shows up, you know?
	I'm actually gonna play a clip of Robot Nature.
	It's about a minute long and I want our viewers to be able to get to know the band a little.
	Is this of the two clips I sent?
	Is this the first one? This is the first one.
	I only got one. Don't belong without you.
	Shame me when you want to take me down, down, down.
	One night, take a big love.
	We can celebrate with a feeling of love.
	One night, take an all-star.
	We can make it work.
	Look at what we found Look at what we found
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	I love fusion sound like that.
	Nice. Very cool.
	Yeah, so I mean, I'm pretty much like, since the lockdowns, the band's been like, people have been kind of split up.
	The band's been moving around, so I'm pretty much going all solo now.
	But I still like, you know, all those songs were written, you know, and I can do them.
	I can do them solo anyway.
	So I'm still doing the robot nature, like songs and tons of new ones, a lot more disco stuff.
	But, you know.
	You're working on them in the near future.
	Just rocking. What's that again?
	What are you working on in the near future?
	Right now, the solo stuff's a lot more, you know, disco, dance oriented.
	Still kind of the same vibe. It's more of a one-man band set up.
	I've got, like, a fusion between live looping, multi-instruments, piano, drums, bass, guitar, beats, a little bit of laptop.
	So it's almost like DJ meets live looping meets, you know, one-man band, like, dance kind of dance stuff.
	But some of the same tracks you've heard are being revamped with a little bit more of, like, a future Michael Jackson sound to them.
	And then a bunch of new songs I wrote the last, like, year and a half.
	So if you lost the last three, your other band members, does that mean that there's an open audition?
	Because I see three people right here that want to be a part of Deepak Robot Nature.
	Hey! Well, only if the barber...
	Tell me if the barber for the band is still around, because he looked like he was working hard.
	You guys all had very sophisticated haircuts in that video.
	You know, I've been to one of Deepak's shows, and I'm telling you, they look like they came out of a spaceship crossed with a TV from the 1980s.
	It's epic. The wardrobes are so on point.
	Yeah, I know. It looked cool. It looked like a really fun show.
	And is anything that you're doing Burning Man inspired?
	I know Burning Man is a really big part of your life.
	I mean, I just love Burning Man, you know?
	It's just such a vibe, such an energy.
	I just got back from there, did 33 shows there, just got back like a week and a half ago, and then went to Austin.
	Does that have to do with the Illuminati?
	No. I mean, maybe.
	I don't know. I think everything does. Tommy, you got an Alex Jones for us?
	Everything has to do with the Illuminati. You know what they're doing at Burning Man?
	Look, let me tell you something, Adam.
	He went to Burning Man, and they turned all the frogs at Burning Man gay.
	That's what they're doing. They're turning the frogs gay, and he's going to Burning Man where Hillary Clinton was putting on a secret performance inside of his show.
	That show that you just played, that clip, Hillary Clinton was backstage, and she was organizing an entire thing with the Illuminati.
	I knew it because I was there, and I saw the folks.
	I have a secret camera at his concert at Burning Man from behind the scenes, and I've seen the papers.
	Look, look, I did this stuff in the 90s, okay?
	I'm not making this up. So 33 shows are bringing in.
	That's quite impressive. How do you do 33 shows in like a week's time?
	Yeah, I mean, it's just kind of, Burning Man's a crazy place.
	There's a lot of stuff going on.
	There's 80,000 people there.
	And the thing about Burning Man, it's not like there's, you know, like these other festivals you go to, like Coachella, there's like four stages, like a main stage, this stage. Burning Man's like, everyone's making their own stages, right?
	So you've got, you've got 80,000 people.
	There's a bunch of camps. There's hundreds and hundreds of amazing stages.
	And some of them are on the main playa.
	So, you know, a lot of people just from the community, people know each other and they book.
	There's DJs. Diplo is out there.
	Diplo probably did like 20 sets.
	I jumped on DJ sets.
	I did solo sets. I was zipping around on my e-bike with the wagon attached to it with bungee cords and all my gear, my pedal boards, and just bouncing around.
	I did five, six shows a day.
	In a long day, there's so much activity.
	It's actually not that big a deal there to do that.
	I've done ten shows a day at Burning Man before.
	I had my girl there with me this year, so I promised her I wouldn't do 52 shows like I did another year.
	We zipped around.
	I did like a nighttime show at this one camp and then went to a DJ set, jumped on and played violin and just did some top line singing with the DJ. It was just kind of all over the place.
	Question for you about Burning Man.
	Do they have like a section for masked people?
	Are there people walking around with masks there?
	Like, maybe 1 % of the people.
	But, you know, again, the whole thing is, Burning Man encourages freedom, which I do too, and so I encourage you, if you wish to wear it, go for it.
	I'm gonna probably laugh at you in my mind and puke in my mouth a little bit, but it's all good.
	Do what you want to do. So there was a few people there that probably had him on, and some people had him on legitimately because there's dust storms there, so that's a little different. There are dust storms and people wearing goggles.
	The dust of Burning Man's a total myth.
	That is a total myth. Instituted by the radical left, they have put dust, they are importing dust from Mexico over the border into Burning Man.
	It used to not be that dusty. Why do you think that is?
	Illegal. The dust is illegal.
	Any of you guys gone to Burning Man?
	Zach? Ami? No.
	Never. I actually never wanted to go until like September 1st every year.
	Then I'm like, shit, I should have gone.
	Yeah, you're about halfway through it, and you're pretty much late.
	Monday. Yeah.
	I've been to some good festivals, but I've not been to Burning Man.
	Well, that's the thing. Burning Man's, like, so different.
	I mean, it's hard to explain. I'm sure everyone says it's like, you can't understand unless you go there.
	But that's what Burning Man is.
	It's like an experience. It's not really a festival.
	It's a gathering. It's basically 80,000 people popping up a city in the middle of nowhere, and everyone sort of gets aligned with this sort of parallel philosophy of agreement, self-reliance. Everyone's got their own thing.
	That's why I think it's a big model for everything that we're about here with a lot of freedom and libertarianism and independence because it sort of is a micro-model, a successful model of what that could look like with a bunch of different people that have different styles, different looks, different things.
	People are politically all over the map there.
	But somehow everyone interacts and it's a very peaceful environment.
	There's no arguments.
	There's just radical self-reliance is one of the things, but also radical self-expression, radical inclusion.
	Things I think could work in real society and it's effective.
	There's every type of music. There's every type of food.
	There's vegans and there's meat-eaters.
	There's naked people and then there's conservatives.
	It's like everything you imagine, but it's working successfully.
	So basically a giant orgy is what you're saying.
	I get it. It's a giant orgy.
	That's all it is. You managed to find a band that fits your pronouns appropriately.
	I just want to make sure that was taken care of.
	So I couldn't hear, there's an airplane flying by.
	I was gonna say, you managed to find a bathroom that represented your pronouns appropriately?
	Yes! I found, and there was so many choices of bathrooms with different pronouns, it didn't take long to find it.
	27 bathrooms.
	I put a QR code on the bathroom I wanted, and then I scanned it with my e-bike, and I found it every time.
	Guys, I'm gonna turn to something a little bit serious and something we can make fun of a lot.
	The Queen's funeral has been a nonstop source of entertainment for myself.
	I don't know why.
	Well, you know, like, this clip I'm gonna play for you guys really summates everything.
	These people that, you know, whether it's her son being involved with Jeffrey Epstein and her covering for it, I personally think the Queen was the one who killed Jeffrey Epstein.
	I don't think the Clintons had that much reach.
	The royal family, they like to hide that they're like this remnant of the past with like a $3.5 trillion inheritance.
	They say, oh, we make only $800 million a year that the British taxpayers give us, but really their art collection alone is worth trillions.
	Do you really think she killed Jeffrey Epstein?
	I speculate. I really speculate, you know.
	I speculate. Do you know that Jeffrey, fellas?
	Got a lot of young slave girls.
	It's quite preposterous.
	I do like it. What can we do about that?
	I want to play.
	You know, and let's be real.
	Charles is extremely involved in The Great Reset.
	Deepak, you and I were talking about this before the show a little bit.
	I like to level set, Adam.
	The Plandemic. Plandemic 3.
	What do you think, Charles? What do you think, Charles?
	Suicide in a jail cell?
	Sound believable? Yes, yes.
	Andrew? I'm gonna play a clip from The Queen's Procession, and I think it's quite entertaining.
	It's sad, actually, but She has one of her guards pass over in the middle of the session and have a seizure on the floor.
	And you have to ask yourself, is this vaccine related?
	I'm gonna play the clip.
	That's the first question I had.
	Sorry. Face plants.
	Watch that. Oh, shit.
	Oh, jeez.
	And this was her...
	Damn, WorldStar Presents.
	Definitely vaccine related.
	Definitely vaccine related, right?
	So many of those.
	It's like there's an infinite amount of clips just like that, and it's all just...
	I encourage anybody that did take the vaccine, we're not here to hate you, but... Check out the work of Dr.
	Carrie Madej. I'd love to get her on the show because she's doing vaccine detoxing.
	And, of course, she was canceled.
	She's getting people unvaccinated?
	She's unvaccinating people, exactly.
	She's unvaccinating people? But Adam, here's the question, though.
	How do you square being so anti-vaxxed with also being a hypochondriac?
	Well, that's a good question.
	Say better. Are you saying I'm a hypochondriac?
	Slightly. I remember when this thing was rolling out, you were like, get away from me.
	You were the guy with the toilet paper.
	I was. I was the guy with the toilet paper.
	He's at the very least a chondriac.
	You were the guy. I'm going to ask you a question.
	You've got to be honest with yourself and with the panel.
	If Trump won...
	In 2020, would you have gotten vaxxed?
	If it was a beautiful vaccine, it's working great, folks.
	The jab is amazing.
	Get the jab, folks. I don't take flu shots.
	I don't take prescription medicine.
	I didn't agree with Trump on the vaccine, to be honest with you.
	That's the one part Okay, fine.
	I lost respect for Trump.
	I'm having a hard time being on Team Trump.
	Actually, our last show, we had Roger Stone on and Darren Beattie, who was Trump's speechwriter.
	And, you know, there was so much Trumpism on the show.
	And all I wanted to do was say, hey, you know, this guy fucked up.
	The reason why we're in this situation and lost our country was because of Trump.
	And the reason why everybody's vaccinated and we're still in an Emergency Authorization Use Act It's because of Trump.
	He should have ended the emergency use authorization when he left and forced Biden to restart it.
	Yes, but do you think he would be as hostile towards vaccines if Trump won?
	I've always been hostile towards vaccines, my whole life.
	Do you think that a lot of the sentiment and distrust of the medical apparatus and the vaccine push has to do with tribal or political Ideology more than medicine.
	The only reason why I ever was open to the possibility of potentially vaccinating my children was to get girls.
	Vaccinating your children?
	Yeah, I don't want to vaccinate my children.
	Especially after this pandemic and seeing how the vaccine technology rolled out and the deep dives that I've done.
	I think I'm completely anti-vax now.
	You have children I don't know about, Adam?
	I wish I was unvaccinated.
	Tune in to Maury Povich next week.
	Adam King is on and we'll find out Adam's children.
	But my point is this. I think a lot of the sentiment has to do with the fact that people felt a certain betrayal or calling into question the legitimacy of 2020 is directly tied into being so Hesitant about a vaccine.
	If Trump had won, then it would be like, we're going to defeat this COVID vaccine.
	You would have seen a lot more non-hesitancy towards the vaccine.
	I'll say two things I saw, Ami, in this ridiculous journalism that I found very comical as well.
	It was like, specifically with the vaccine was, you know, Trump got it, was like, you know, endorsing its beautiful vaccines, the best vaccines, you know, it's everything.
	And then, you know, Kamala, Biden, all those people were like, don't take that vaccine.
	Don't take that Trump. If Trump doesn't take it, I'm not taking it.
	Yeah. And then the second he was out, it wasn't even that you should take it, it was that You are to be a good American.
	You should take the vaccine like they literally literally that was the narrative and I was like whoa that was a huge shift in like two days and and so that same applies to them.
	I'm saying we got to keep each other always on.
	Yeah, no, no, for sure. No, I agree.
	That's why I say they became very pro vaccine upon his losing and then they wanted to kind of that you know there was a credit to be had by the medical apparatus under Biden.
	But I think the same aversion to the vaccine was a political reaction.
	I agree.
	And I think they played it that way.
	They shouldn't have gone from don't do it to forcing you to take it when it was obvious that Pretty much everyone in this room, more or less, like, we didn't need it.
	You know what I mean? Unless, obviously, if someone here has a condition, like, that we don't know about, but it's, like, generally speaking, we didn't need to be first in line to do it or lose our job.
	You know, like, that was, that was, like, a little bit over the top.
	The other thing I noticed, and Adam and I have talked about this, is, you know, in the height of, like, the, just the mask wearing and the, and what was called the pandemic.
	I don't call it the pandemic. I mean, when people were dying, you know, from COVID. Still.
	And then there were the protests that turned to riots and, you know, whatever was going on in various cities.
	Even the Democrat riots of 2020?
	Sure, sure.
	Whatever you want to put them.
	But looking at it just from a narrative perspective was like, you know, anyone who went to like anything Trump related or any sort of like or work, they were like super spreaders.
	And then literally in CNN, and I think it was the LA Times, it was, you know, COVID spikes in large cities with protests, but not Because of the protests at the same time that it was saying that people of color were were inverse or, you know, way more disproportionately impacted by the virus.
	And I was like, so how are you telling a bunch of young people to go out and scream in by the thousands?
	And that in that community, things are going up, but not because you're telling them to go scream, you know, by hundreds and thousands of people.
	And I was like, I wasn't...
	I think people had the right to go out and protest just like other people had the right to do whatever they want.
	But don't lie to people and, like, pull them out of their house and, like, you know, and take a really salacious, horrible event that was caught on camera and then, like, use that as, like, oh...
	All the protests for BLM were outside Zorba.
	I totally understand.
	I think that's when the whole campaign of social distancing and you're gonna kill grandma if you go out and socialize lost all its credibility from a public health standpoint was when all of a sudden you started to see mass protests and not a word From the same medical apparatus and the same public health officials that were condemning people for getting together for weddings and funerals of loved ones and family members, the second the protests fit a certain narrative, All of the sudden, you didn't hear a word about it.
	And that's when I think all the credibility about it...
	I remember I had to go to a Zoom funeral.
	Yeah, I'm saying that's when the credibility, I think on the whole, was completely lost.
	But that doesn't mean that when people were dying in droves in New York City, there were people who were irresponsible, taking elderly people out to events that then died because of it.
	Both things can be true.
	Or putting COVID patients in nursing homes.
	What's that? Or putting COVID patients in nursing homes.
	Yeah, I'm just saying, clearly, we can all agree that for older senior citizens, I mean, we can't blame Andrew Cuomo for killing all these old people when they say at the same time COVID wasn't a real problem.
	I mean, for them, it was.
	So it would have been much, much nicer if from the get-go we could walk and shoot gum at the same time and say, okay, if you're 65 and up, Stay home.
	You don't have to work anymore anyway.
	You can get meals delivered to you.
	If you're under that, you know, do what the Nordic countries did.
	And they basically had comparable experiences, if not better.
	And we all kind of can see that in hindsight, that argument seemed to hold the most water.
	But at the end of the day, because it wasn't nuanced and because everything you would say about COVID was couched in, wait a minute, are you a Trump supporter?
	Because it sounds like you're being, you know, like everything was couched in political suspicion as to where you stand.
	It became an impossible conversation to have.
	That's the thing. A lot of people I work with from the beginning, everything that's now being agreed upon now, from the beginning, people were saying this was a disease of the elderly or the immunocompromised or people with pre-existing conditions and that stuff was coming up.
	But even if you mention that, Like you just said, you'd be like, oh, it was attached to politics instead of just being truthful about the information.
	Like you said, they can all happen at the same time, walk and chew gum.
	I mean, it was older people percentage-wise.
	And it was, at the same time, pretty much less than or weaker than the flu also for this age group.
	And those facts can exist at the same time.
	But to even say that, you would get immediately canceled to even claim that it was related to the flu for certain age groups, even though it clearly was. I actually got suspended from Facebook because I posted the FDA, just a link to the FDA walking back their claims on hydroxychloroquine.
	And I didn't say any commentary.
	I just posted the link and the headline to the news article was, FDA now says that hydroxychloroquine can help you.
	And that was enough for Facebook.
	And turning to other news, I don't know if you guys saw the Facebook Joe Rogan, Mark Zuckerberg interview.
	Did any of you guys catch that? Yeah, a little bit.
	Bits and pieces. Where he pretty much says that the federal government told him what to do.
	So we got a notice from the FBI that said that there would be disinformation coming down and we have to take a look at that because we are concerned that I don't have a perfect mark but it's something like that.
	Tries to be normal and human and you know at Facebook we're trying to connect people around the world and we have to be here.
	You just have to stay in a perfectly still plane.
	Your voice is pretty spot on.
	I think he did become a cyborg.
	And what we have to realize is, Yeah, I did see where he admitted, basically, to shadow banning dissenting information.
	The government came to him and said, we're going to get this.
	But, like, no one's surprised. It's funny how, like, Fox News acts so surprised about it.
	Like, whoa, it was a story.
	It's like we all, like, literally everybody knew it because even the truth of how this whole frickin'...
	Pandemic started was a conspiracy that got censored and then was the literal truth, you know, like it was just I mean, so it's just it's I mean, it is what it is like.
	It's annoying and hopefully it will change.
	But we kind of know. I mean, I think the problem is, like, it's never been sexy to tell the truthful thing.
	It's never been the popular vocal thing.
	Unless you're Alex Jones.
	Alex Jones tells the truth, and he's sexy as hell.
	Not on Sandy Hook, though.
	You know, I'll tell you, if you want to go down that path, I've been watching the Alex Jones trial, and this guy has been apologizing for six years for Sandy Hook before he even got sued.
	I understand. Yeah, I'm just saying, I actually think before this trial came out, like, Alex Jones, you know, in some way, I felt like public perception of him was shifting more towards, like, less taking him seriously as a political commentator who's controversial and more like, oh, this guy's just a funny goofball.
	Like, him being on Rogan, he was sort of going through a brand evolution of being just like, hey, look, I'm, you know, he even said to Rogan, like, there's a quote, a meme where he goes, I'm kind of retarded, okay?
	Yeah, I saw that. In other words, like, this is just a crazy, kooky guy.
	It's episode 1255 on Rogue.
	And I'm like, I don't know how he's doing it, but over time, it seemed like Alex Jones was evolving into just more of an entertainment piece.
	And then the Sandy Hook trial more recently, in the very recent months, has kind of put him back into that context.
	Let's be honest, guys. And Deepak, I want your opinion on this, too.
	Because, you know, you've really studied the Constitution ad nauseum, we'll say. Why is it a crime to question if an event took place or not, if it was a conspiracy or a hoax?
	Like, does that mean that the moon landing people now can all be sued by those who are defended by it?
	Well, so you're asking a very loaded question because this is a very specific thing to having a bunch of kids shot and killed, which is a very distressing matter.
	So if the, I don't know what the charge is, but if the charge is about- I'll tell you, there was a 20 minute clip.
	It was a 20 minute clip. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	I know, I know, I know like the background, but what I'm saying is in this very particular case, the ability to create I don't know what would be considered like undue stress and damages in this case is very it's like I mean you basically just need to flick someone you know what I mean?
	Let's take the New York Times for example.
	Can veterans who lost arms and legs from the Iraq war The New York Times said that they have weapons of mass destruction and cost us five trillion dollars and millions of dollars.
	You're asking a group of ignoramuses about law.
	I want to hear Deepak's opinion on this because he's not such an ignoramus.
	No, no. As far as the law is concerned, you're like, what's the legality of this?
	Because there's a lawsuit now.
	Okay, I don't want to talk about the law, but are we going to be...
	Okay, let's not talk about the law, but let's talk about culture.
	And I really want to hear Deepak's opinion on this.
	Like, is this...
	Like, culturally, socially, is this the path that we want to go down as a country?
	What do you think, D? Well, no, I mean, this is all gray area.
	That's why there even is a case, because it is on that line of, like, what is appropriate versus what is law?
	What is technically considered liable?
	What is gonna cause stress?
	What words can actually create harassment, right?
	And is it compelling violence?
	Like, just like, you know, like, If Trump's giving a speech and he says one thing and it leads to this, people are gonna have a debate of what aspect of it actually can theoretically lead to something.
	And I think that's where I would lean.
	Personally, I would lean towards as much free speech as possible, but you gotta just see where the line is where physical harm actually starts to get caused, right? And do you think that that is a part of the plan?
	Because, I mean, as you saw that Alex Jones was the first to be censored off of all media, now this kind of lawfare that's taking place where they're going to war against conservatives through the courts.
	I mean, if you look at the presidential election in 2024, the Republicans have two candidates.
	Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis.
	And now both of them are under investigation by the DOJ. And I think there really is a blatant targeting, you know, it's a one-sided targeting going on for sure.
	And I think Alex Jones is being made an example of so that they can set a precedent to do more censoring and canceling.
	Alex Jones is not being made an example of as a conservative.
	That's not why they're coming after Alex Jones.
	We can, you know, I think we're talking cross purposes here.
	Yes, is there political targeting of political dissidence from the left to the right when the left is in power?
	I think it's pretty obvious.
	And is big tech and even most mainstream institutions leaning to the left and therefore putting all the, pooling all the resources into trying to sway the culture?
	Against conservative ideas?
	I think so. And you're seeing a response to that in the Daily Wire Plus and PragerU and Young Americans for Freedom and young people.
	There's a tug of war going on there.
	In the case of Alex Jones and Sandy Hook, We can all agree this is low-hanging fruit.
	Kids got murdered in broad daylight, and he just decides to call that into question.
	We can all say, that's not right.
	Look, I'll be honest with you.
	On this show, I will say it right now.
	The Uvalde shooting, a lot of weird shit went down.
	Was it... I don't think these are false flags, but the question that I have is, does the government do these...
	Is the CIA, MKUltra type...
	Are they involved in these school shootings for gun control?
	And that's something that I think about all the time.
	Every time I see a school shooting, I think, is the government involved?
	Are they trying to take guns? That's a strange impulse you may want to check.
	Without wasting a breath.
	Yeah. The second a child's blood hits and spills the ground, every Democrat is up there saying, you gotta take the guns away from everybody.
	And nine times out of ten, it's an illegal gun that does the school shooting.
	How bad is it when it happens that he's questioned it?
	This whole case is because he questioned it in a 20-minute segment and then never spoke about it again.
	But if that's the case, and the government's so powerful, why don't they strategically, the Republicans, place a school savior at every school to shoot the gun, to shoot the shooter, and prove that guns also save people?
	I mean, there are motivating...
	I think this goes back, like Ami was talking about, you know, how... Both sides got to be accountable.
	And I think like, in this sense, you know, there's, and I would agree with Deepak, like, free speech has to, it's, we're the only country really that even pretends to have it as a value.
	And sometimes we are pretending that it's a value.
	But, um, however, Like, you can't...
	You may have a question as to whether or not the government was involved in Sandy Hook or Uvalde, but, like, for you to attack a parent of a kid who was murdered because you have...
	You never once said the victim's name.
	Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
	What... All I'm saying is that...
	It would be different.
	That's not the case in this situation.
	And now I'm not allowed to the party.
	You know what I mean? Those are two completely different things.
	And that's why it's important to say there are cases that are worth Evaluating with a level head, with justice in mind, not as a witch hunt on either side, but to say just because the left is overzealous about it, that it should never happen.
	It's like, well, sometimes it should happen because sometimes people are doing the wrong thing.
	Is it being misused now?
	I mean, I think it's very obvious.
	But Adam, also...
	I'll get to you on me in a second.
	I'm very involved in Senator Mastriano's campaign for governor in Pennsylvania.
	Been working on the campaign the whole time as a quasi-official Jewish liaison to the campaign.
	Now, his opponent, Josh Shapiro, won't stop calling him an anti-Semite.
	Even though I show up...
	- Can't stop, won't stop.
	- Exactly. - Get hyped on the anti-Semite. - They make these salacious stories, they write it, they call them an anti-Semite, a bigot.
	Is Mastriano entitled now to sue the Shapiro campaign for damages?
	Again, you're asking, in one sense, you're asking a very particular legal question.
	In another sense, I would say one should be able to, I don't know what the state, the conditions for libel are in this country.
	I don't know the law in that way.
	So I'm gonna completely, you know, plead the fifth on that one.
	I don't know what the law is on If something is illegal to say, you know, I know that in the clear, the clear and present danger, what is it?
	Flailing a fire in a movie theater?
	You can't cause whatever. I'm saying, so I don't know what the legality is.
	The question that I think, what I think you have to realize and just be aware of, Adam, is like you're conflating a couple of different things here.
	So you're conflating the idea that political Like censorship or the targeting of people and the regulations of, you know, like you can make a fair assessment that there's foul play going on in certain ways, but there's also a sense of not saying that just because something is politically incorrect Doesn't make it okay to say heinous, horrible things to people just because you can, legally.
	That's what I'm trying to get at. I was trying to clumsily get my way there.
	It's possible Alex Jones said some horrible, heinous things that he should be held accountable for, not necessarily should be thrown in jail for or maybe even press charges for, and you can hold both opinions.
	Well, I think it's pretty clear that they want to take him off the air, and that's what they're trying to do.
	Yeah, yeah. I don't think they're trying to get reparations for a 20-minute segment.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah. He didn't go on.
	I'll tell you something. I watch Alex Jones every single day.
	For three hours a day.
	And there's some stories that he talks about all the time.
	Hunter Biden, Jeffrey Epstein, all the stuff with the vaccines and COVID. These are things he speaks about every single day.
	He spoke about Sandy Hook for a brief, brief moment, and then it was a dead story.
	And it didn't even happen until years later, after he apologized.
	He apologized six years ago.
	Are there not multiple segments going on about him?
	He said that he was wrong, and he walked back his comments.
	Now, has the New York Times walked back any comments?
	You know, I mean, what is worse?
	I think we're getting way too caught up on Alex Jones right now, honestly.
	What's that? I think we should be talking about what Ami's talking about, which is the idea, not the Alex Jones-specific thing.
	Like, this isn't about him.
	Like, we're getting very caught up on him as a person, and I think there's an underlying idea that, Adam, I think, like, Ami brought up that's important.
	I will say, well, I don't know if we want to move on.
	I had a very interesting thing happen today that I realized that was a very California Very California thing.
	I was doing this sexual harassment course that I had to do for my job, not because I was told I needed to, you know, rebuff my sexual harassment education.
	Well, one of the questions was, you are legally protected from discrimination against your sexual orientation.
	Your religion, your race, and your political views.
	Your political views and all of the above.
	And I put all of the above, but you're not actually protected for your political views.
	Like, you can be discriminated against for your political views in California.
	Oh, yeah, and we saw that.
	Well, I mean, legally. Are we talking about private...
	Private businesses? What are we talking about?
	I mean, we got three people. This is a public company.
	This is a public company.
	They would have known how their political feelings were.
	It's a public company with a California-based education, you know, online thingy. It was just interesting.
	I just found that very, very interesting that you're legally able to be discriminated against for it.
	For holding opinions that the company doesn't like, that doesn't surprise me at all.
	I mean, it doesn't surprise me.
	Like, those are things, the argument being you can't control the other things.
	They're like, they're immutable, what's the word?
	Characteristics that you're just born with.
	But one of them is a particular temperament and position that you take.
	But Adam, one thing I have to point out is like when you bring up things like, Whenever I see a school shooting, I can't help but think the government might be involved.
	I don't know how you feel about this particular issue, but that sounds to me very similar to when 9-11 truthers say, hey, George Bush and Halliburton, these companies benefited from getting into the Iraq war.
	It's pretty clear that there must be a link to the government being involved in 9-11 causing the towers to come down.
	Or I see a lot of Jews in media.
	I see a lot of these protocols of the elders of Zion type ideas and then just jumping to these things.
	It doesn't mean that Democrats don't take advantage Pfft.
	Never mind. That's where you stand.
	Oh, God. Now, it doesn't mean that...
	I'm with Adam on some of these things, too.
	I mean, every time I see a school thing...
	Why can't we question things?
	I mean, it's so bizarre that Building 7 fell.
	Why can't I question that?
	Why is it that I... Why is it that we...
	You asking questions, you've already come to conclusions.
	You have a presumption that the government is involved.
	If you're asking honest questions, you should ask, but just be aware.
	Okay, I have a real question for you.
	Is the government involved in any of these things?
	Any of these things?
	Any conspiracy, 9-11, school shootings?
	Is our government, are they puritanical with us?
	Are they good to us always?
	Do we trust our government all the time and our 87,000 additional IRS agents?
	Our answer is Kamala Harris.
	Our government is here to govern.
	And in the governing of the people, it's important to keep the governance well-governed.
	Because when you govern, there are governors and governees.
	Exactly right. And now we're governed.
	I don't trust our government.
	I think 9-11 is shady.
	I think the pandemic is shady. I think a bunch of school shootings are potentially false flags.
	And we should have the right to at least speak about it.
	Yeah, for sure. And you should have the right to face, by the same token, face judgment and scrutiny if you say things that might have no basis in reality or evidence.
	I'm not saying you are. That's all we're doing.
	If you're going to make a claim, the onus is also on you.
	Is the government squeaky clean?
	Of course not. Are some conspiracies turn out to be true?
	Yes, that does happen.
	But that's a very different line of thinking than correlation causation.
	Hey, it's very dangerous to say, I see a lot of this, therefore this must be true.
	Just like, I don't know, Adam, do the protocols of the elders of Zion have some merit?
	They're just asking questions.
	You know what? I'm still waiting for my membership.
	I deserve to be in this club.
	Let's be real. If there's one person who deserves to be in the elders of Zion, and I'm speaking to you, Chairman, you send me my invitation, dammit!
	I'm just saying, like, there needs to be a standard.
	There needs to be some kind of standard.
	And I agree with you on that.
	I think that causation is not correlation.
	That whole phrase makes sense.
	I think scientific method is important and all that kind of stuff.
	So, but... That said, I think a lot of times when a lot of pieces are in place that might lead to scientific method and you're not even allowed to talk about those, that's when you start going, okay, maybe there is an intentional suppression of the actual information that could be blatantly leading to that, too. And it comes from the left, too.
	You saw it with COVID and a lot of questions that needed to be asked that were squashed.
	The left trusts the government indiscriminately.
	But the one thing that conservative ideas that have merit, the conservative idea that we shouldn't take it for granted, that you could say, oh, America's shady. It's like, yeah, compared to what?
	Like in terms of what country you would rather live in?
	That's one of the I'm not I'm not just doing, you know, a conservative.
	Don't get me wrong, Ami. I'm being honest with you.
	I would rather be nowhere but America.
	I'm an America-obsessed, loving, you know, American patriotism.
	I'm not considering the media America.
	I'm considering information beyond.
	That's beyond. That's a global thing.
	We're talking about the deep state, folks.
	Very deep. There we go.
	Now we're talking. I think this is a global thing, not an American thing.
	This is all over the planet. Do you have a Joe Biden yet?
	Not really. Not something I'm happy with.
	But there's a little bit of a... That's what we're doing.
	It's because America's, there's nine, there's eleven and nines.
	There's lots of elevens in numbers.
	There's planes and they're flying around.
	That's what we're doing. We're flying around here.
	Look, look, number one, number one.
	You're making a claim.
	There's no idea. You made a preposterous claim.
	That was way too sensical.
	Way too sensical. Out of a rooted oppression and ism.
	Because we're going to get it back.
	Guys, I want to pivot a little bit.
	By the way, I appreciate this conversation.
	I appreciate the back and forth on conspiracy.
	This is something that we have to have this conversation.
	There's a reason why conspiracy is a federal felony and that it's a crime.
	It's a crime to commit a conspiracy.
	So when people go around and they say, are you a conspiracy theorist?
	That's only aiding and abetting criminals, that type of behavior.
	If somebody makes a valid claim like, why did buildings seven fall down, but brick buildings that were next door that were...
	200 years old, why didn't they fall down if the earth was shaking?
	Building 7 was built to survive a plane crash.
	All the buildings there were built to survive.
	How did Building 7 fall down?
	And it was the one with the gold vault underneath.
	That's a little bit strange to me.
	I'm allowed to question that without having my opposition say that I'm just a crazy conspiracy theorist.
	Or ivermectin, obviously.
	Like, ivermectin's been literally one of the most amazing things to help people for, like, the last, like, year and a half.
	And we had to, like, have underground protocols to help people that actually had COVID. You couldn't get it from overseas.
	You couldn't even get it. We've helped. A lot of our crew, a lot of our medical crew, people I'm connected with in Texas have literally helped hundreds of thousands of people and weren't allowed to talk about it publicly.
	But it literally was with ivermectin.
	You know, which was called a horse dewormer, which is clearly not, you know, things like that.
	Yeah, yeah. I hear that.
	I mean, how could Rachel Maddow be so, such an idiot and everybody at CMSDNC to go around and say that over and over again, you're not going to take a horse Horse medicine are you when it clearly has a human, human brands and human applications, you know?
	I mean, I think, I think it's pretty simple.
	It's like, respect, you know what I mean?
	Like, you're allowed to question whatever the hell you want about 9-11 or this.
	But what I notice is the people who are questioning.
	Well, no, no. Well, okay, that's a different, like, systemic corporate issue.
	I think the issue is, and this goes back again to talking about being accountable on both sides of the coin, is like, just because you don't believe in vaccines or you think that there is a government play into this, all of a sudden, the people that did die completely innocently are completely forgotten about in the agenda of whatever political talking point You on social media or they on news media want to talk about and they completely,
	like, just, you know, sweep them under the rug and they're like, oh, 3,000 people died.
	Maybe there's a government behind it.
	And maybe, you know, it's like all of a sudden they don't matter.
	And that's to me where I think that happens on both sides where it's like now anyone who takes a vaccine is an idiot or a pussy or this.
	And it's like, well, no, like a lot of people had completely legitimate...
	No, no, no. So what I'm saying is it's just like it goes from maybe there's a gray area to no, no, no. I'm here. You're there.
	There's nothing in between. And why should we even talk about it?
	Because, you know, you're an idiot and I'm just dumb even trying to listen to you to explain.
	And it's like, no, no, every issue should be looked at as an issue, maybe, or dismissed.
	But you can't just, like, base it off.
	It's not binary. People get lost in binary when there's nuance.
	There's every single thing has infinite shades of detail.
	Yeah, sorry.
	Keep going. That's about it.
	Just the whole binary thing.
	On the point of nuance, I mean, the confirmation bias you have to watch out for is pretty apparent.
	For example, when you're talking about something like Something about when we were talking about 9-11, which was such an unprecedented event, there's going to be all sorts of phenomena that seem unexplainable, that seem very curious and raise a lot of questions, but it was also such an unprecedented event that we had nothing to compare to.
	There's going to be all sorts of strange things that have happened around it.
	Ivermectin's been around for 40 some odd years, treated people safely.
	So, suspicion and skepticism of policy is valid in some cases, and in some cases it's less valid.
	Or, I mean, you could still have the suspicion, but it's less credible.
	So it doesn't mean, so it's not like it's one position.
	I'm just suspicious of all things government tells me or all government events.
	It's like, well, then you're not being honest with yourself.
	It's like, Ivermectin calling it horsey warmer, obviously nonsensical mainstream.
	The second the government starts telling me something, I start questioning its legitimacy, especially when the government's trying to sell me something.
	I understand, but it's apples and oranges in some cases where they're so not comparable.
	I understand, and these are all great points.
	I want to pivot. There's one subject that I want to talk to you about, and we're running out of time, and I really wanted to get to this subject.
	I just have one really funny thing before you introduce it.
	I just thought of a hilarious TV network.
	I thought of a great TV network.
	I think the White House should have their own infomercial network where they're just trying to sell you whatever the most recent bullshit like policy or product or government agency they're just trying to convince you is actually doing a good job.
	I think that would be a great like C-SPAN meets like home TV network.
	Hello, I'm Dr.
	Anthony Fauci and I want to talk to you about Remdesivir.
	Order now and try for your five-month trial.
	That was a good one. Okay, guys, I'm gonna pivot.
	Adam, you got my message right?
	I gotta dip in a sec. More easy boosters of 1099.
	We're gonna finish up really soon.
	I just want to share the screen really quick.
	The Queen's funeral.
	Is this a sign Biden sits 14 rows back at Queen Elizabeth's funeral?
	This picture right here.
	Is this a sign of America in decline?
	Look at him all the way in the back.
	When have you ever not seen a president of the United States in the very front row at any world event?
	And we're gonna close on this.
	And I want the panel to everybody have a final thought and then we'll close because people gotta hop off.
	And we'll start with you, Zach.
	What's your thoughts on this?
	I mean...
	He made it to his seat or to a seat.
	That's pretty good. It's impressive for him that he actually made it for me.
	They put him in the back in case he had run to the bathroom in the middle of the ceremony?
	Yeah, well, my bet in Vegas was 50 bucks.
	He wouldn't make it, so I lost money.
	But, um, uh, no, I mean, it's pretty frickin' obvious.
	Well, okay, I think the world right now is, uh, going down a scary path.
	Like, Europe is in a scary place without power.
	And, you know, like, real, real, real things are happening.
	Um, so it isn't trivial at all, I don't think.
	But, um, It's really hard without leadership and it's really sad that we went three elections in a row with, you know, I'm not gonna say Trump was a bad president, but he wasn't the best leader of the entire country, you know, and we were left with him, Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden for the last 12 years and it's like, It's hard because we're so inundated with media that it's unfortunate that people do give these leaders so much,
	like, you know, agency over their own lives because they really shouldn't have any.
	But this is a sign.
	I mean, we have a guy who doesn't know what's going on.
	And worse, his vice president is scarier because she kind of knows what's going on but doesn't know how to do anything about it.
	And it's like, so yeah, they're like, here, let's just push them in the back.
	They're not going to say anything. Trump would have just walked up to the front and, like, kissed the open casket.
	I would have been like, I missed it.
	She was such a good game. Grabbed the open casket right by the wooden handles.
	Deepak, what is your thought seeing that picture?
	Does that make you feel that America's in decline?
	I mean, I don't really make that much meaning out of certain things like that.
	I mean, I look at each leader has a different level of energy and power.
	I look at, you know, Trump as someone who had a lot of charisma, a lot of energy.
	And so I don't see him doing that. I see him being more of a front kind of person.
	I see Biden as more of like a kind of a shadow puppet and kind of walking dead kind of guy who's not necessarily like making his own clear thoughts.
	So it is what it is. And like kind of the joke that Sachs said, the fact they made to his seats, you know, a miracle.
	You know, but I don't really think of that as, like, a big...
	I don't make a huge meaning out of that just one image.
	I think there's other things that we can use to make meaning about what's going on.
	But I wouldn't necessarily go too...
	I wouldn't get too deep on that image necessarily myself.
	Tommy, your thoughts?
	I'd have to agree with Deepak on that, mainly because maybe a few years ago I would have been, like, all about, yeah, piling on on that point.
	But respectfully, There's this conversation that's going on as to why we're so divided.
	Why are people not able to talk to each other?
	And I recently turned on Fox News like this morning for the first time.
	In years and you start to see how a lot of these conversations you know in the age of podcasts when people are having actual conversations and Rogan's the most popular podcaster and 11 million listeners are tuning in for long form in-depth conversations you start to see that you can have a really good point to be made that gets uh that gets muddied by like focusing in on on Stuff that maybe is tongue-in-cheek and silly.
	It could be very true. America's in decline.
	And it is true. There's a lot of weakness in Biden.
	And I think there are substantive cases to be made for that.
	But when you point to pictures like this, if I'm taking it as a serious point, It means that anyone you're trying to persuade won't take you seriously because then it's like when you watch Fox and Hannity goes, Obama golfing again for the, you know, you're just like, is that the issue or is that just like a distractive point you're making to point to, to point out real critiques and real criticisms and also the refusal to give credit where it is due.
	And I'm not, I'm not here about to give Biden credit for anything.
	I'm just saying that If we focus on these things and we're not clear that we're being tongue-in-cheek and funny about it, we lose credibility with anyone who's maybe able to dialogue with us in a constructive way.
	And we've lost that ability to have constructive conversations around real issues.
	And I know it's fun to have these kibitz-y conversations and I'm all about it, but I just think it's also something to be aware of that one of the reasons the conversation And the dialogue between different people and the marketplace of ideas is so in decline and toxic is because, you know, we're memeing each other to the point to oblivion.
	Because then we're like looking for something to point the finger about versus actually having a real conversation.
	It's like now we're like looking to be blamey people.
	And that's not where you want to be. You want to be on the, like again, like we talked about, you want to give credit where credit's due and you want to hold accountability where accountabilities do.
	But if you start like just looking to blame and it becomes one sided, then you're doing the same thing they're doing, you know?
	And to give credit where credit's due, I want to say, even though she does it for the most selfish purposes ever, you know, she doesn't want to lose her investments in Taiwan.
	I do think at certain points, Nancy Pelosi did impress me a little bit with her pushing back on Taiwan, on the Taiwanese issue.
	Little bit stroking the war with China, and I would have been much more comfortable if Trump pushed the war with China.
	Nonetheless, I give credit where credit is due, and I think that's a very fair point.
	Yeah, I mean, you follow that stuff more closely, but I just think in general, the image...
	Yeah, is this the sign that America's in decline?
	Probably not, but that is certainly a conversation well worth examining.
	And when we point to this, my only concern is that people see that point being made and being like, you guys are not.
	You guys are just looking for anything to support a perspective I do think that.
	Benny Johnson, I think, looks for anything.
	I watch his Instagram, and he'll pull out these things like, you never believe what Biden said.
	That's how people get clickbait.
	All right, guys, I'm going to wrap this up.
	This was a great show.
	You guys are all welcome back on.
	We could continue the same exact panel, the three of you guys.
	We could go deeper again, but we only have about an hour segment.
	I want to point everybody out to where they can find you, and then because we have such a talented musician with Deepak, I'm going to Allow Deepak to play us out on a brilliant clip.
	So if the panel...
	Ami, where can people find you?
	You can follow me at Infowars.
	No, you can follow me at...
	AJ-Comedy on Instagram, aka Ami Kozak Official on Instagram, YouTube, TikTok. I have a band called Distant Cousins.
	We also make a lot of music and have a lot of fun.
	You guys should mash it up with robot nature.
	Distant Cousins is an unbelievable band.
	Hi, you're in Distant Cousins. Yeah, I know you guys.
	That's nice. I know. So you can follow me there.
	I'm also the host of the Buckle Up podcast with Mike and Ami, where we do similar things to this.
	Conversations and having a good time.
	Where can they find the Buckle Up Podcast?
	At Buckle Up Pod on Instagram, YouTube, and TikTok.
	Zach Grashin, famous director, writer.
	Where can they find you? You can check out my movie, KnifeCorp, on Amazon Prime.
	That's like Knife Corporation.
	It's a fun, ridiculous horror movie.
	Otherwise, I've got a couple other projects coming, but they are large in scale and will take time, so can't really talk about it, but you can find me in LA, sometimes playing beach volleyball.
	And Deepak, what's on the horizon for Robot Nature?
	Any shows coming up? It's just Deepak Future, man.
	There is no Robot Nature.
	Again, it is Deepak Future.
	I am solo. You can find me at Deepak Future, spelled D-P-A-K, Future.
	If you go to RobotNature.com, it will forward to Deepak Future.
	For all the old fans.
	Robot Past.
	Robot Past. Robot Past.
	Robot Past. On that note, I am going to play out a video from Deepak Future.
	And again, my name is Adam King.
	Thank everybody for coming into the Adam King Show.
	This was a really great show.
	Thank our great guests, Ami Kozak, Zach Grashin, and Deepak Ramparian.
	Thank you, everybody. Have a wonderful night.
	Deepak Ramparian.
	Put your arms in the sky for freedom It's not for anything, let it go It's not the real thing, don't you know?
	Let me find it, don't deny it.
	Cause it's always been a story.
	Turn and face it, can you make it?
	Take a chance now, this is who we are When you find it, you'll deny it There's always a big story When it plays it Can you make it?
	Take a chance and now listen to who we are.
	Take a chance and now listen to who we are.
	Take a chance and now listen to who we are.
	Turn and race it, can you make it?
	Take a chance now, this is who we are.
	Let you find it, don't deny it, cause it's always been a story.
	Turn and race it, can you make it?
	Take a chance now, this is who we are. Let you find it, don't deny it, cause it's always been a story. Turn and race it, can you make it? Make some noise, Los Angeles, everybody!
	Thank you all so much.
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