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Nov. 30, 2022 - The Adam King Show
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EP002: America's Most Wanted!
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- Welcome everybody to the Adam King Show.
I am Adam King, your host, and this is my personal Ed McMahon, Rock Breath.
How you doing, Rock? I'm doing very well.
How are you? I'm good.
How was the weekend by you?
Oh, fantastic. The weather was very well here.
So without further ado, I'm going to jump in because we got a huge show today.
We got a packed panel and tons of news to cover.
From last show to this show, we had the Queen's death, 9-11, and a ton of stuff.
With that being said, I am going to get straight into today's news.
So, first thing on our list that I want to talk about, Daily Mail reports, stunning survey reveals almost half of San Francisco's residents have been robbed in the last five years.
As a woke NPR affiliate slams reporters who share videos exposing the city's filth and chaos.
That's Nancy Pelosi and Gavin Newsom right there.
Yeah, you know what? It's funny because that really is a hard-hitting fact.
I lived near San Francisco for a while, so yeah, cool.
It's a disgusting city full of human feces and heroin needles.
Yeah, I don't think I can go back.
Good news, though.
The foreign minister of Dubai, the UAE Abdullah bin Zaid, landed in Israel, visited Yad Vashem, the Holocaust Memorial Museum, and laid a wreath.
Which is a tremendous sign of progress for these two nations.
What do you think about that? I think it's fantastic.
Good news, right? Yeah, of course.
Of course. I love it. I love having good news come out of the Middle East.
I love that. And look at him lay that wreath down.
He's so serious, too.
And I'll tell you, I got a lot of Jewish friends who have moved to Dubai recently, and they're loving it.
They get unbelievable treatment.
The people there are so friendly.
They all go to each other's bar mitzvahs.
It's a really wonderful thing.
Next on our list, Charlie Kirk slams Hillary Clinton.
Since when does Hillary have a problem with young children being flown to unfamiliar islands full of rich white people?
And let's not forget this photo with our former president with his arm up on Ghislaine Maxwell and some underage girl.
Gateway Pundit reports, Ontario high school transgender teacher with unbelievable huge breasts Is defended in his classroom by the school and parents had no recourse.
Look at these. Have you ever seen a woman with boobs like that, Rock?
That's just a vest he's wearing.
They're not real boobs attached.
I think he did get surgery for that.
For real? And some doctor did that to him?
Shame on both of them. I never wished more for someone's back to go out for having too big of a bust.
Shame on both of them.
And into our meme section.
Meanwhile, Martha's Vineyard, the Obamas have become the newest expel them all team.
This one captivated me.
I thought, you know, the McClintocks and this one really encapsulated how I feel about this.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez crying in front of Martha's Vineyard.
By the way, she has gotten uglier and uglier and uglier.
When she came into Congress, she was such a beautiful woman.
I saw her in a hearing the other day, and she looked like a beaver.
I mean, like, what happened? You start telling lies and you start getting ugly.
Well, it's not just that.
You know, she's angry.
And when you're angry for so long, you become ugly as well.
Domestic oil is the new ivermectin.
You can't have it because it will resolve the crisis that they need you to go through.
And one of my favorites, come on, do some domestic terrorism.
They just want their police state.
The IRS released their pronouns this week.
Theirs, theirs, and theirs.
87,000 of them.
And this one, to commemorate 9-11, for all the 9-11 truthers out there who really want to know what happened, we never forget 9-11, but we forget Building 7.
And how to prevent the next pandemic, we burn down the World Economic Forum.
With that being said, I want to jump to our panel, and we will come back to some funny memes later.
Thank you, Rock, for all your help on the show.
And with that, I am going to bring in our guests.
Joining us on the panel today, we have one of America's most brilliant activists, organizer of the Stop the Steal Movement, and many other behind-the-scenes things, Ali Alexander, mathematician from University of Chicago, PhD professor from Duke University, speechwriter to Donald Trump, and presidential appointee to the preservation of American heritage abroad,
CEO of Revolver News, Darren Beattie, and the man who needs no introduction at all, Who is America's favorite political operative, host of the Stone Zone, Roger Stone himself.
Thank you guys for being here.
Be here. So I want to start on...
Roger just got back from an amazing tour.
Did either of you guys see the reawakened speech he gave over the weekend?
That was over the weekend, correct, Roger?
That is correct. I spoke on Friday and it only took me 13 hours to get from Fort Lauderdale, Florida to Post Falls, Idaho, which is right outside of Spokane.
Unfortunately, I also had to take my life in my hands in the Spokane airport when some woke leftist started screaming, hollering, making actual threats against me.
Wow. Then you then go to TSA and say, look, we have a problem here.
And they say, no, no, I'm sorry.
We can't possibly spare an officer to get you to the gate.
You're on your own. Wow.
It's just, it's now part and parcel of the way the American left operates.
Violence, public shaming, this kind of harassment.
Ali can tell you, I mean, it's common day if you get recognized And unfortunately, thanks to the folks at CNN, I'm still universally recognized.
Then you take your life in your hands to go to the supermarket or the drugstore or, God forbid, an airport.
The same thing to a lesser degree on the way back through Atlanta.
Then what happens is leftists take your picture waiting, you know, at your gate, put it up on Twitter and say, if you're at the Atlanta airport, Roger Stone is at gate B-9, go and tell him to go F himself.
Wow. It's very sad.
And people say to me, well, you know, maybe if you didn't wear a suit, maybe if you wore a baseball hat, maybe if you wore aviators.
The hell with that. Maybe if you would just be somebody or not, be a different person, you won't be attacked.
Well, I'm not going to stop being Roger Stone just to satisfy some woke leftist, but it's a sad reality.
It really is. And I wish I could afford the money for private security, for professional security, but unfortunately I cannot.
So you have to make a choice.
Do you travel and continue to speak?
Or do you just barricade yourself in your own home?
And you mentioned this in your speech on the Reawaken tour, and I thought it was actually amazing what you said, that your grandchildren came up to you and wanted you, asked you, hey, would you retire and live out your days and write a couple books and whatnot?
And your response was...
That you need to fight for this country.
I believe 68 years old.
And, you know, I have to say with that fortitude, you know, America cannot fail, you know, when we have leaders like you.
Another great thing that you said in your speech, which kind of Darren had an amazing interview with Mark Gantz just recently.
You said on your speech, Roger, that we need to develop our own platforms and we need to build each other up.
I really think you hit the head hard here with that.
It's something that that we all need to focus on as conservatives, eliminating our petty differences between each other, fighting together. You didn't choose to be in a trench with these people, and we need to build each other up.
And Darren kind of touched on that in his Gantz interview, especially when he spoke about the differences between Trump and DeSantis.
Everybody's going around saying, Who do we choose?
Trump or DeSantis? Trump or DeSantis?
It's not a matter of Trump or DeSantis.
We've got two great candidates here who need to be working together to stop the common enemy.
Darren, you want to comment on some of the stuff that you were talking about on that show?
Yes. Did we just lose your video?
I think we lost him.
Ali, you want to... He's back.
There he is. I think you got a bad connection there.
I was saying, I plugged in Ethernet, so it should be strong.
But yeah, let me know if it starts getting bad and I'll hear the situation.
No, I think both and DeSantis are excellent.
As I've said in multiple venues, I'm a personal beneficiary of DeSantis' leadership as a proud resident of Florida.
I think, though, that the efforts to kind of inaugurate or coronate DeSantis as the new sort of leader for the right or the anti-establishment sort of populist movement can be a bit premature.
And, you know, some of the reasons for that is I think it's, you know, it's about a lot more than having the right policies.
And certainly operated in 2016, the stakes are so high when you're facing the coordinated opposition of every powerful institution in the world that it really comes down to certain very, very rare personality characteristics that Really have nothing to do with having the right policies as to whether you can withstand that sort of what I call the pain box.
And so I think on these critical dimensions, DeSantis has not yet been tested, but I'm certainly optimistic about his political future.
I feel the same way.
And one of the great highlights from that interview, you were asked if you could choose between one president DeSantis or 10 governor DeSantis.
As you said, I would Without a hesitation, you said 10 Governor DeSantis.
And I think that that's, you know, we need that governor leadership like we have with Kerry Lake, Doug Mastriano, some of these proud American patriots who are stepping up.
And I want to pivot to you, Ali.
First of all, you got so much going on.
You're one of America's most fearless patriots on the front lines doing the good work.
Tell us what's going on in your case with January 6th.
Give us an update on things happening with you.
Well, you know, I wish I was as happy a warrior as my friend Roger and then Dr.
Beattie. I think that they do a great job of giving the constructive case on how we should respond to, frankly, an authoritarian government that's trying to stomp us out.
So kudos to them.
Me, I'm still in kind of survival mode, but actually recently, a couple weeks ago, I traveled to Nebraska The grassroots infrastructure kind of took on the party and won there.
So they took over the state party.
And I went to one of their functions and spoke there.
And it was really...
Therapeutic for me because it actually was my first public appearance since post-J6, you know, in person.
So I've done these events like the Alex's War premiere or other private events where I've done interviews like with you and Dr.
Ben Stein, but I hadn't publicly spoken to the grassroots and it was really Just encouraging to see how many election integrity activists are still out there pounding the pavement, how our movement really was the bedrock and the foundation for this parent rights movement that took on bad school boards and other, you know, weird, bizarre, creepy policies that are being pushed by teachers unions and educators that are trying to pervert the children.
And so it's really interesting.
There was a court document that leaked from Brandon Strzok's case.
He leads the walkaway movement, which confirmed that the FBI did put several of us, myself included, under a criminal investigation post-J6. And we've had a wave of whistleblowers since.
I'm actually very encouraged that we can use some of this momentum to make the constructive case on our side to, you know, why this government is so bad and why, you know, we need the ability to legislate this stuff in the public square because, you know, things are getting awfully spicy out there.
Yeah, absolutely. And I want to take a moment just to pause and reflect on our amazing leadership that we've had as a movement promoting nonviolent strategies to overcoming this insane totalitarianism that we all face.
And one person in particular that constantly constantly beats the drum of pacification is Alex Jones.
He does such a great job.
I watch him all the time.
He does such a great job making sure that the masses don't go to violence, don't give in to what they want.
They want to be able to roll out police to engage violently with the right.
They're looking for that fight.
So, you know, I feel you and your struggle.
All you guys, I mean, Darren excluded.
I mean, he did get fired from the administration, unfortunately.
But at least he didn't have to go up against a firing squad like the two of you.
Roger, what do you have to say to Ali with everything that he's going through?
Well, first of all, and he already knows this, I pray for him every day.
I made this point in my speech.
I'm a political strategist.
And for 40 years, I would look at any problem or any challenge, and I would outline a strategy.
The one strategy you touched on, which is extraordinarily important, it is important to recognize that Trump's election in 2016 was only possible because of the availability of an unfettered, uncensored Internet.
The deep state, the Silicon Valley legacy media Democrat cabal currently running the country and currently controlling all mass communications for the first time in American history, whether it is broadcast television, cable television, corporately owned radio, which is systematically squeezing out the independently owned stations, all print media, newspapers, magazines, and now the Internet.
The fact that we had a free open Internet in 2016 allowed for the election of Donald Trump, they have recognized that problem.
They have systematically put the toothpaste back in the tube.
We have a level of censorship now that is hard to fathom.
I had just under 1 million followers on Twitter, banned in 2017.
I had 3.5 million followers on Facebook.
I had 245,000 on Instagram banned in 2020.
So believe me, until you've been canceled, until you become a non-person, put it this way, Fox News' bookers are not calling trying to get on board.
So what we need to do is recognize that they do not own the Internet.
They only own highly influential software that is in wide use on the Internet.
And therefore, as Alex Jones has proven, as Mike Lindell has proven, you can build a sturdy, secure platform on the Internet If you avoid using cheap plug-in software that allows them to take you down.
In other words, don't go build a fine, beautiful mansion on a foundation of sand, parlor. Don't rely on Apple or the Google store, Truth Social, because ultimately they're going to pull the bricks out from under your home and your home is going to collapse.
So what we need to do as a movement is to build our own net-based community using independent servers, using independent non-cancellable platforms to have our own news platforms, our own crowdfunding platforms, our own event platforms, our own live streaming platforms.
This can be done.
Alex Jones demonstrates that not only can it be done, but it can be done at great profit.
Mike Lindell, to a lesser degree, is proving the exact same thing.
If we cannot communicate with each other and with everyone else, then we can never succeed politically.
We can never galvanize and mobilize the people.
So that is the real answer to the challenge that faces us.
And then, going back to the larger point, other than that strategy, which is, I think, the single most important thing to do, I'm praying.
I'm praying. I don't have a strategy.
I believe he has a strategy.
You just hit it on the head, Roger.
Prayer is the most single thing that we could do.
The most important thing that we could do collectively is to pray and to rely on God, especially in a situation like this.
I'm sorry to interrupt. I just wanted to, what you said struck me deep in my heart.
I think people find it odd coming from me.
There is no question whatsoever that I did not always put my faith in the Lord, even though I had been You know, baptized as a Roman Catholic and had my first Holy Communion and my confirmation and was married in the Catholic Church.
I lived the life of a libertine.
I was a willful sinner.
And then in the darkest days of being targeted in the Mueller investigation, I turned to the Lord and I have no regrets about talking about it.
I talk about it openly.
I'm mocked. by Media Matters for America.
I'm mocked on Salon.
I'm mocked by the Daily Beast.
I don't care what they think.
I only care what he thinks.
That's all I care about.
And I'm absolutely convinced, just by reading the Bible, that we know how this story ends.
We may not know how we get there, but we do know that good triumphs over evil and that the godly triumphs over the godless And today's Democratic Party, this is not the Democratic Party of John F. Kennedy and Harry Truman.
This is not an anti-communist, patriotic Democratic Party that just has a different governing philosophy than we do when it comes to spending and taxes.
Both parties are controlled by a neocon duopoly that has run the country for 30 years.
You're talking about the satanic deep state.
Yeah, and Donald Trump is an intrinsic threat to that order.
In other words, Jeb Bush versus Hillary Clinton.
Boys, everything's decided.
It doesn't matter who wins.
No matter who wins, we win.
Their policies really, when you get down to it, are identical.
Maybe their tax policies are slightly different, but other than that, their policies are identical.
Trump is such an antithetical threat to the established order in Washington.
Just the fact that he is uncontrollable, just the fact that he puts America first and that all policies are measured under his presidency on what is best for America, not what's best for our allies, not what's best for our enemies.
What is best for America?
That's an intrinsic threat.
That's why we are where we are today.
I want to get back to what you were saying earlier about censorship and ask the good professor here what he thinks about the Supreme Court ruling that just allowed residents in Texas to sue big tech companies for violations of censorship.
Darren, what do you think is going to be the outcome of this and how do you think People like Alex Jones, who are in Austin, Ali Alexander, who is in Texas as well.
How can they take advantage of this new law to effect immediate change and really stick it to the system?
Well, I think as far as this particular case, it's a bit premature to say.
I'd like to see like a very successful sort of proof of concept in terms of actually outmaneuvering the censorship regime on that state-by-state level.
But I, of course, encourage State governors around the country to make every effort they can just to be on the offense.
It's always better than doing nothing.
I think Roger's remarks regarding sort of parallel institutions, parallel platforms are extremely important.
I think we do need people, and I think that actually Alex Jones is probably the best example of somebody who is truly, and I talked to Alex about this before, when there was another individual that went through the meat grinder of cancellation, a very popular TikToker called Andrew Tate.
And I said, look, this is one of the major examples of Internet cancellation, probably one of the top three.
And Alex Jones is certainly in the top three.
And he was one of the first.
And for somebody who's been that canceled to maintain his infrastructure the way he does and keep up a production value that really Is equal to, if not supersedes, the level of Fox.
Because one problem that we see, I think, on a lot of right-wing media outlets is just extremely low production value that I think is devastating as far as really communicating effectively to a mass audience.
It touches people's subconscious neural circuitry and immediately associates poor production value with something that sort of Just lower quality information and high production value is sort of circuited in people's subconscious as being connected with illegitimacy and authority.
And so I think that's really a model to be celebrated.
And frankly, I would hope that Alex Jones might sort of take on a role more of as a kind of mentor and show people to the extent possible of how to replicate his success in this regard.
That being said, I think there are some important limitations to the sort of parallel institution model.
I think there's no such thing as being uncancellable.
It's just what layer they have to attack you on in order to cancel you.
And so there's, you know, these mass sort of platforms that benefit from real profound sort of network effects that really are the most conducive to mass communication.
And that's, you know, the Twitter, the YouTube, the Facebook, all of the things that conservatives typically get deplatformed from.
But I think part of the reason that we think that parallel institutions are the effective route is that parallel institutions and alternative platforms haven't yet reached the stage of impact such that the regime thinks to go after them.
And so I think that can provide sort of a false confidence to a certain degree that this is the actual viable long term solution, because ultimately the bottleneck is not any specific platform.
It's not even the Internet.
It's the regime.
The regime controls the Internet.
And I think a lot of the discourse surrounding the Internet on the right that has sort of relied on ultimately false dichotomies of characterizing these tech companies as private companies.
But really, when it matters, these tech companies are extensions of the national security state.
And we've seen example after example of this.
And in fact, just recently, there is a website which, frankly, I'm not endorsing it, you know, harbored a lot of information.
Like doxing, which I think is a very wrong thing, but I do believe in free speech.
And there is a site called Kiwi Farms that was basically attacked on a different dimension, and that is they lost their cloudflare protection.
Now, CloudFlare basically protects websites from DDoS attacks, which is a specific type of attack that can take any website basically clean off of the Internet.
And there have only been like two or three cases in the history of the Internet of CloudFlare withdrawing its protection services to a website.
And this recent case of KiwiFarms is precisely that.
There are other sensitivities to the infrastructure of the Internet and what allows a site to stay online that the regime hasn't really leaned on yet because they haven't had to.
But I think even as we sort of build these parallel platforms, which is important, I'm not saying this to dissuade any of that, I advocate a full spectrum approach to this.
But I think we should also keep in mind that The bottleneck is ultimately the regime.
And as soon as an alternative tactic becomes effective, that same bottleneck will come into play and will pull on levers that they haven't really exercised up until this point because they haven't had to.
I'm going to ask you the same question, Ali.
What do you think about the Supreme Court's decision?
And do you agree with Darren's position on this?
Yeah, Adam, I'm going to try not to filibuster here, but I could talk about this issue for probably 30 minutes without stopping.
You know, what's interesting about my career and Roger Stone's career, which is sort of an anomaly to most Republican operatives or conservatives that work in In the think tank space or the C4, C3 space is that we kind of went reverse.
We were professional operatives, consultants that went the activist route.
Most activists aspire to become professional consultants and activists.
We've kind of done it in reverse.
And so what a lot of people...
don't know about my career, unless you followed it for the 15 years I've been in politics, is I was basically part of the first, we called it the second wave, but in retrospect it was part of the first wave.
I was the first 15 or so operatives in the GOP digital space, or back then we called it new media.
You know, we did what was online media, new media, we tried modern media, went back to new media, and now it's just called this ominous digital.
And so, this is actually how I made my bread and butter.
It wasn't through commentary or punditry or, you know, I'm the Fox News Black Republican.
It was through, you know, pioneering conversion rates with petitions and email marketing and social media and all that other stuff.
So I got into politics to solve a very specific problem, planning to only be in it for three years and then get out.
And I've just never been able to get out.
They kept you here.
They chained you to say, no, we're not going to let Ali go.
We want to send him to the floor.
I'm still trying.
So the recent decision by a federal court was, I believe, to remove a stay on the Texas law that is a lot like the Florida law that prevents big tech platforms from censoring political candidates.
And so it's interesting because the Florida law has basically been knocked down.
This Texas, the federal court, one of the federal courts in Texas decided to remove the state.
So this is going to be appealed all the way up until it eventually, I believe, does reach the Supreme Court.
And because I'm a lover of politics, law and technology, This is why I can nerd out on this issue is that conservatives think about the legal space regarding speech online entirely wrong.
It's, you know, it's recently why you saw, you know, Laura Loomer's taken multiple stabs at this.
And unfortunately, I think that she's just gotten some bad legal advice.
You know, Donald Trump, he's taken a stab at this.
Again, bad legal advice.
The way conservatives are approaching the big tech issue is on free speech when we should be attacking it as a liability.
And so the better way of thinking of how do we Not diminish the First Amendment while giving big tech platforms and other corporations enough liability to where they're equally enforcing their terms of service.
So it's equally intolerable for all of us or equally allowable for most of us is that, okay, there's the free speech angle, which we're always going to lose.
There's the defamation angle, which is what is what namely Section 230 is about.
Section 230 is basically where it says that if a user engages in a tort or defamation, then you can't see the platform as a party.
So you can't see the user and the platform.
The platform just provided the space.
What's really interesting now, and we saw this with, what's his name, Alex Brennison or whatever his name is.
He went to California, so he chose the right jurisdiction, right?
Most conservatives choose the totally wrong jurisdiction.
He went ahead and ceded jurisdiction, goes to California, sues Twitter, and gets his Twitter account back.
Why? Because he says, look, I'm a part of a contract.
This is contract law. I signed up for a terms of service.
Twitter was supposed to provide me these services.
And by the way, they're not providing me these services and they're not equally enforcing this.
I believe I was targeted.
And by using California consumer laws, he was able to get his Twitter account back.
And then it was later outed that the Biden administration Participated in this censorship.
And so then we get into the state actor stuff, which is a total separate cause.
And so what I would say is...
With the FBI and Facebook.
Yeah, I'm very encouraged that we can live in a future where we can coexist with the First Amendment, Section 230, with minimal changes, and also giving the companies enough liability through...
Consumer protections and whatever we do with tort.
That's how we got to kill this bird, is that the GOP state legislators ought to do what California has done with electric vehicles, with big tech.
What Germany has done with big tech is if we pass aggressive laws and we have enough users in these big states like Florida and Texas, then it becomes essentially a universal law, an international rule that all companies operate under.
And unfortunately, Well, I guess, fortunately, that's why a lot of former constitutional conservatives like me are giving up our conservatarian cards and leaning into nationalism, because this has just got to be a patchwork.
Like, the Republic and these companies ought to be responsive to us, the citizens and the users.
And we can't just have a hands-off approach and say, well, the corporate actor is going to follow where the market is.
The market's rigged.
It's always been rigged.
We've got to wake up to it.
And I'm very encouraged by at least Conservatives are being exposed to what the real issue is.
It's not the First Amendment.
It's all about liability.
And we ought to think about this in terms of risk management, not ideology.
Also, the corporate actors have an ulterior motive.
I'm a big Instagram user, even though I've been shadow banned out of existence.
And, you know, I get all my best memes from Instagram.
And lately I've noticed that my feed doesn't show all the memes and instead It suggests things like street fights and violence and overt sexuality.
You know, it's like bombarding the system because it's trying to brainwash the general public, specifically the younger generation, to become normalized to such things like street fights and overt sexuality and whatnot.
On that note, I want to also say that I started this show to combat media censorship.
I obviously didn't have a 3.5 million following like you, Roger.
Who knows how long I've been censored and shadow banned, but my censorship, I'm the type of person that if you try to shut me up, it's only going to make me talk more.
And I think all of us are kind of on that same wavelength.
That being said, I think that this panel that we have today is very unique.
It's a panel that would rival any television network panel.
Tucker, Sean Hannity, all those guys.
It's a very high level panel.
And it's important that we work together and uplift new media voices because when our media voices are silenced and shut out that we come together like I believe it was you Darren or Roger who said that Alex Jones is doing a great job and needs to foster some of his business model onto the rest of the movement.
And I will not shy away.
As Roger knows, and Ali as well, I have also gone into actual physical print to avoid censorship, which the newspaper will be coming out very shortly.
And as you were talking about the layers and substructures of canceling, You know, it's very interesting that the First Amendment is the right to the press.
And yes, they're talking about the media press, but also the printing press.
And to own our own presses and to own our own media sources makes it more and more difficult to actually go and cancel us.
That being said, with censorship, I want to turn to a completely different subject and get your guys opinions on it.
The United States in this quasi war against Russia in Ukraine, Owen Troyer, and I'm going to play this video that Owen had on Friday, and it struck me so heavily.
Owen Schroer is uncovering this story.
He's one of the only people doing it about American involvement in the war.
And are we fighting a war in Ukraine against Russia?
Or is Ukraine fighting?
I'm going to play this video clip and let you guys talk about it.
Then there's this.
Folks, this is footage out of Ukraine where they're promoting Ukraine pushing Russian troops back.
Now you tell me if you notice anything from this news clip from Ukrainian news showing how they're pushing Russian troops back in clip seven.
Next up. Hey, they're falling back all the way.
Yeah. Keep moving.
Hey, roger there. Move.
Let's go. That was wild.
Didn't even get their bar closed.
Since when do Ukrainians have an American Southern accent?
That's funny, isn't it? Since when do Ukrainians have a Southern American accent?
I'm going to play one more video.
That's Owen Troyer's recent take on it.
The other one that I want to play is one that's being pushed all over the internet.
I don't know if you guys know what this is behind me, but that's a Russian tank.
Let's take it out.
Welcome to America.
Welcome to America! How you doing?
Welcome to America! Welcome to America!
Thank you! Welcome to America!
Heavy, heavy shelling again today.
Constant, non-stop.
A lot of them very close to me.
I don't know if you heard that, but there goes another...
This schmuck over here.
And one more video I'm gonna play for you guys before we get to the panel.
It is the ABC running...
...group of American veterans, some former special forces, medics now operating near the front lines.
Are cameras with them as they prepare for a top-secret mission?
ABC's foreign correspondent James Longman is in Ukraine.
Tonight, an elite group of U.S. veterans take us inside a life-saving mission in Ukraine.
Dark Horse is a group of former U.S. Special Operations personnel.
They include Special Forces and Navy SEALs, and they're here in Ukraine to provide expert medical support.
So this is the operational command center in the bunker under the house.
Everything here can be stripped out at a moment's notice if they need to get out quickly.
And the intelligence they're discussing here has been fed to them by Ukrainians.
Then they're off, heading out towards the front line.
So ABC's running cover on these American soldiers, and I want to get your guys' take on this.
What do you think? Is this a secret war?
Is America sending troops in, former retired Navy SEALs on special contract under the table?
What's your thoughts on this, Roger?
It occurs to me that operating within the aegis of NATO, we probably have far more American soldiers in Ukraine than we're being told.
I also think that they're being given drone technology, switchblade drones specifically, that may actually be turning the tide of the war in Ukraine's direction.
If you try to tell the truth about the situation in Ukraine, the fact that in 1994, We signed a treaty in which we essentially agreed that Ukraine would be a neutral buffer, that we would not put NATO missiles pointed at Russia in Ukraine.
At that point, we didn't even anticipate the bioweapons labs that I do believe are there.
And this is, if you just listen to what Putin is saying, these are his two objections.
The idea that he wants to occupy Ukraine to restore the fated glory of the old Soviet Union is not even economically feasible.
That's not what his interest is.
His interest, just as we didn't want Russian missiles 90 miles from the United States and Cuba in 1962, he doesn't want Western missiles pointed at his country from what was supposed to be a neutral buffer.
And the result of our pursuing this war in Ukraine has been to drive him into the hands of the Iranians, with whom we should be allied with the Russians against Islamic terrorism, and instead we are pushing him into the hands of our worst enemies, people who have no problem destroying us, even if it means destroying themselves.
So I do think that we're not being told the truth about the war.
We're not being told the truth about the wars I think the number right now is $110 billion that we've actually sent there.
And I heard reports that over 70 % of that money did not make it.
Only 30 % made it to the front lines.
Well, you have to wonder why the U.S. Senate would defeat an amendment by Rand Paul to have an inspector general keep track of where the money is going.
Right. How could you possibly vote against that if you were any member of the US Senate?
Why wouldn't you want to know where the money is being spent?
These people, this administration is driving us to the brink of World War III. I don't think it's this administration, Roger. I actually believe that there's a satanic death cult that is operating inside of American government.
And you see this with people like Marina Abramovich hanging out with all sorts of fancy politicians and celebrities and whatnot.
And you see companies like Reebok and Nike coming out with satanic shoes and really pushing this satanic death to the world agenda.
And if you want to kill off the world and bring about the apocalypse, the best way to do that is to start a war with the greatest nuclear power in the world, which far outnumbers our nuclear capability.
Russia has nearly double our nuclear arsenal.
But this is something that...
I agree with everything you just said.
This is something that, you know, is very personal to me because I don't, you know...
The War Powers Act of Geneva, the president's allowed to declare war for 90 days.
Now this administration is a loophole administration.
They look for every way to go around You know, the law.
I think calling it a loophole administration is being awfully generous.
I mean, we had this resident in chief say, well, you know, I know the Supreme Court's gonna knock down what the CDC is doing with rent collection by homeowners, but we'll buy them time.
I mean, this is a lawless regime.
You're right. And I appreciate you correcting me on that one.
It's not a loophole regime.
It's a lawless regime.
They look for loopholes when Democrats are watching and they break the law when only Republicans are watching.
Darren, I want to get your opinion on this too because you were in the administration.
I don't know if you had any experience in Ukraine, but what do you take about this?
If you're a Russian soldier and you're shooting back and forth and the people across from you have American flags on their On their military uniforms, do you think you're at war with Ukraine or America?
Yeah, it's a good question.
I mean, it's very clear that our interest in Ukraine amounts to a kind of at least de facto proxy war with Russia, and that's always been the significance of Ukraine.
Ukraine is important to us because it's essentially a playground for It's a playground for, you know, America doesn't really exist anymore.
I call it the globalist American empire, which is a term that I've coined that has gained purchase because it describes our reality.
And Ukraine is very important strategically as a playground for the globalist American empire, as a center for various influence operations, as a cauldron for Or color revolutions that we've been conducting that have been elevated to one of our favored vehicles for regime change.
And so in that sense, it is actually the case that for the specific corrupt and illegitimate ruling class that controls the country, Ukraine is of supreme strategic importance.
And so it makes sense in that perverse way that they're so Interested in the regime there and in protecting their safe space in which to operate and conduct their various operations.
I like that word that you used, Darren.
You said Imperialist American?
Globalist American Empire, which has a nice acronym as well.
The question that I have for you is do you really feel it's a globalist American empire or is America one branch of this Klaus Schwab overreaching World Economic Forum empire that seems to be very interested in the Ukrainian space?
That's a good question.
And I mean, there are a variety of stakeholders globally, but as far as what's driving the interest in Ukraine and what's driving sort of wokeness, which I addressed in a recent speech at the National Conservative Conference, I really do think it is fundamentally an American thing.
I think wokeness is fundamentally an American disease that's exported throughout the globe.
It's not imposed on America by supranational institutions, by EU bureaucrats, by the WEF, or by the UN, or any of these other things.
I think there is truth to, you know, these are definitely nefarious organizations, but I think maybe Underneath it all, there's this sense of wanting to pass the buck.
There's a psychological difficulty with acknowledging the fact that America is where the poison is coming from.
I think in terms of the strategic interest in Ukraine, this is absolutely the case.
There are various dimensions to it, but just one dimension is if I think if Germany were actually a real sovereign country and not essentially a vassalage of the globalist American empire, its posture toward Russia would be very different.
Like, Europe's actual interests diverged pretty considerably from those with...
The United States when it comes to policy with Russia, but Europe doesn't exist in any sovereign sense.
Europe since World War II is a functionally a vassal state of the United States when it comes to these important geopolitical matters, and so you have the result of that, which is that Europe is facing a severe energy crisis for geopolitical interests that aren't even their own.
The short answer to this, and again, I acknowledge there are many dimensions, many nuances, and countervailing factors, but I think at the end of the day, ultimately, the United States, or what I prefer to call the globalist American empire, and the stakeholders in that empire's position geopolitically, that is the driving force of interest in Ukraine and in Basically,
in this bizarre prioritization of Russia and Europe geopolitically, which doesn't really make sense when you look at what's going on in China, but it does make sense when you look at the interests of the specific stakeholders involved.
Now, Roger brought up a great point.
I'm going to get to you in a second, Ali, on this point about the bio labs that are happening inside of Ukraine.
Now, Darren, I absolutely loved what you said.
I think Yes, these are nefarious actors, but one of the things that they are nefarious about is their movement of transhumanism, and Ukraine seems to be the epicenter of transhumanism.
I've been to Ukraine four times actually, and it is by far one of the most corrupt countries I've ever been to.
And the corruption index is through the roof in Ukraine.
I want to share with you guys a quick article from Newsweek.
If I can find this, here we go.
This Newsweek article, Russia claims Soldiers are made into monsters by secret experiments.
This article was from July that Russian soldiers are reporting that they're coming into warfare with monsters.
I don't know if this is real or not, but it certainly fits the transhumanism agenda that is being purported regarding these biological weapons facilities that have largely been invested in by Seneca Holdings.
Rand Paul gave an expose detailing 11 biological weapons facilities that are in Ukraine.
And when I hear a report like this coming out of Newsweek, I don't rush to give it credibility, but I certainly don't take it with a grain.
I certainly, you know, wonder and speculate in the transhuman agenda What is actually happening?
And I don't want to pontificate, but on Netflix, if you watch every show on Netflix, it has some sort of transhumanism.
There's a new show called The Imperfect Ones on Netflix.
And it's all about transhumanism and biohacking and creating super soldiers.
So, Ali, you're one of the brilliant minds in America.
I want your opinion on what you think about what Roger was talking about with bioweapon labs in Ukraine and it being a hotbed of transhumanism, and that's what this war is really about.
You know, I really try to stay in my lane on most issues.
So I'm really concentrating on Election Integrity Office, obviously, and then the loss of due process.
And so I'm actually going to be doing a lot more writing of editorials and even some podcasting on Lawfare Against the Republic.
But what I will say is that, and let me observe this, the genius and the brilliance of what's happening right now with this livestream, Adam, is that we're all systems thinkers.
And the right doesn't usually think in terms of systems.
It's kind of antithetical to a lot of the ideologies that occupy the right wing, but also a lot of people, frankly, who are interested in right-wing politics aren't qualified to be systems thinkers.
And so what's interesting is, like, if this is resonating with you, it's because, you know, the four of us, you know, approach things in a system, a complex system, and we're looking for feedback loops, be them positive or negative.
You heard at one point Darren mentioned network effects.
I mean, these are all these are all important And not just like terms of jargon.
They are concepts to understand, you know, how do we exercise power or not?
But I think you're right, Adam, is that As I've come to understand it in my regression from consultant to activist, is I've also gotten more, I've leaned into my faith more.
And when I look at Ukraine, I can't help but feel that it was a Hillary Clinton administration and Syria is where this was supposed to be taking place.
And because Donald Trump had No years, but four years on paper inside the White House, we're actually dealing with Ukraine.
And Catholics, faithful Catholics, might be familiar with Our Lady of Fatima.
And so I think about this domestically.
What are the implications domestically?
And that's that they are torpedoing the US dollar.
They are torpedoing the budget.
They are laughing in our face.
I think, what is the international order?
And this is more about the technocracy that is taking place by this satanic cult that eventually wants to turn the earth into a microchip, wants to turn the earth into one legal jurisdiction with several provinces.
I mean, this is their goal, and it's been their goal, you know, since the foot of the cross.
And then, essentially, the spiritual implications.
And that's that, you know, if you look at the Nazis or you look at what the claims are by the Nazis in Ukraine, it's that the occult is mysterious, but they're always the technocrats as well.
The technocrats pretend to be secular.
The technocrats pretend to believe in the scientific method, but these people are actually always occultists, and this goes back thousands of years, thousands of years, and so I think that, you know, I try to stay in my lane.
I have friends who are involved in humanitarian efforts in Ukraine, and I hear about some things that the Russians are doing that aren't being widely reported, but I also am not on board with Zelensky or Ukraine, and I, you know, like Roger mentioned, you know, we are being sold the bill of goods In the United States.
I've last observed this.
In Soviet Russia, everyone knew the propaganda was in the national interest and went along with it.
In the Soviet States of America, most of the public is unaware of the propaganda and it's entirely against our national interest.
We don't even have the luxury of being dumb and kissed on the mouth.
Instead, we're dumb and we're kicked in the ass.
Very well said.
And Ali, you made a really fantastic point about the collapse of the American economic system.
While this is congruent...
Oh, it's coming. We're hurling towards the Great Reset.
I know, you know, Adam, you're a very positive thinker.
When I'm talking to Alex Jones, he's a very positive thinker.
You know, Roger and I, when we get to enjoy each other's company, which isn't often because, you know, the FBI doesn't want me talking to him.
The FBI doesn't want him talking to me.
I mean... You guys are more than welcome to meet on my show anytime.
Well, you know, that's part of it, right?
Not only is there lawfare against all of us, but they also sow paranoia into our movement so that we can't reach network effects.
And I've watched this with great sorrow.
But what I want to say is that you, my friends, are usually the optimist and I'm the pessimist and I hate being accused of black killing, but the Great Reset is coming.
There's nothing that we are doing to offset this.
This is all about hurling us towards that.
So that they can make, again, a more legal distinction where we're under one jurisdiction.
This is what WHO is about.
This is what the UN is about.
And I think that sometimes our movement, you know, isn't articulate in describing We're great about talking about the occult nature of it, but we need to talk about it in secular terms and legal terms.
I didn't mean to interrupt you, but we're hurtling towards the Great Reset still.
Well, what I wanted to say on that, and then I'll get to the rest of the panel, is with the American collapse, I found a picture over the internet that speaks a thousand words, and this is it.
This is the result of the Great Reset.
And if you look at these men, looking at the Prime Minister of India, this is the new future Federal Reserve, is the China, India, and Russian Axis.
Now, our war in Ukraine, while simultaneously collapsing the Federal Reserve, is creating this new monetary system in the world that not only do we not control, but we're disfavored at.
And I want to get your guys' points as we close out this show.
Roger, I see you chomping at the bit to get in on this one.
I want to make two points.
Point of personal privilege, since I'm very definitely the oldest person on this podcast.
having celebrated my 70th birthday two Saturdays ago.
Congratulations! I want to say two things that are important.
First of all, we have driven the Russians into the hands of the Chinese and into the hands of the Iranians by our misguided policies in Ukraine.
But secondly, a personal point, and I think most people, many people know that after my full presidential pardon, almost immediately, my wife of 30 years was diagnosed with very, very aggressive stage four cancer.
And I think I want to express to you, Adam, my deep appreciation for your help in that situation, because not only were you a great source of very valuable information regarding the treatment of cancer with cannabinoids, but also helping us get the all natural supplements that led to the fact that today my wife is cancer free.
Could never have gotten there without your help, Adam.
I wanted to say this publicly.
I am deeply, deeply grateful for your friendship and your support.
That means a lot to me.
That was a galvanizing event that really solidified our friendship.
We were acquaintances before that.
But as an American patriot, after watching everything that you went through, I could not sit there and watch you go through that.
And it means a lot to me.
And to anybody listening to this show, reach out to the show if you want our cannabis cancer protocol.
It has had tremendous results for a lot of people and we certainly are passionate about it and like to help.
So off topic, but it's something I had to squeeze in here in the time we had left.
That's very kind of you, Roger.
Thank you. Is there any closing words that you want to say, Roger, before we go on to Darren's closing words?
Only I remind you of Ephesians 6, 12.
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
That says it all.
That is what we are up against.
The answer lies in faith, our faith in God.
Only our faith in God will save us.
It's very hard to get to the point where you can abandon all fear because you put all your faith in the Lord.
You have to pray fervently.
You have to fast.
You have to contemplate.
You need to reflect to get to that point.
I've successfully gotten to that point, so I live today without fear.
I don't know what tomorrow will bring.
I really don't. But my faith is in God, and I believe he will deliver us from our persecutors and from the evil ones who seek to destroy our entire way of life.
And I, myself, am a religious scholar and a man of faith, and I will say that it is always darkest before the dawn.
And that is the darkest moment of the night, is right before the sun rises.
And I think that we're there.
Darren, any closing words on the dismantling of the international order and the collapsing of the Fed, building up the new financial system with Russia, China and India?
Well, it's difficult to address it briefly, but I'll only say that really the financial Type of censorship you see, which is another dimension of censorship and cancellation that we haven't discussed, but it's deeply integrated into the overall sort of de-platforming strategies.
It's one of those layers of censorship.
But the domestic version of that is really just a recapitulation of the sanctions regime that we use geopolitically.
All of the sanctions tools that we use against Russia, that's just a Broader version of the type of censorship tools and financial censorship tools that the regime exercises domestically against dissidents.
And so the question is, how long can the United States lean on the global dominance of the dollar not as a financial tool, but as a political tool?
And I think they can lean on it a bit longer than a lot of us would like and would hope.
There's a lot to be done for, you know, China or even China partnering with Russia.
Really, India is an essential partner there, and there are a lot of competing interests.
And so I think it's not as easy of a lift as it might seem.
But I think things are starting to look in that direction in the medium term, say, in the next 20 years or so.
And that will have profound consequences for the geopolitical position in the United States.
And I'd simply say, as a kind of provocative closing thought, that of course our first instinct is to say this is a horrible thing, that America's geopolitical position would plummet, at least if these trends continue.
But again, it goes back to what I suggest is that is America the epicenter of wokeness?
Is America the chief incubator of the poison that we're all trying to fight against?
And if that's the case, could we say that the strength of wokeness globally and perhaps even domestically is somehow inextricably connected with the prestige and geopolitical strength of the United States?
And if that's the case, would the relative diminution of American prestige actually create some interesting opportunities that haven't existed for a long time politically?
And so I think these questions, you know, the answers to these questions remain to be seen.
We have to be extremely resourceful over the next several decades if we want to actually come out of this in a strong and victorious fashion.
Thank you for that, and I want to echo both Roger's comments prior to that.
regarding faith, I definitely think we have to be strategic in the next several decades, but if there's one thing That can get us through this.
It is faith. And seeing, and normally I don't talk about faith on the show or any of the shows.
I like to keep it, you know, about the relevance and I like to keep my faith private.
But since we are on a panel with Ali and Roger and Darren, and I imagine you're also a man of faith, but I've had lengthy conversations with the two of these gentlemen about faith.
I encourage all Americans to really take a step back You know, the Jewish holiday of Rosh Hashanah is approaching.
And that is when God decides who will rise up and who will fall, who will be rich and who will made poor, who will have power and who will be weak.
And so I encourage us all to take a step back and look within in the coming days and really do some introspection and come together.
You know, Roger, you said that in your youth you were a libertine and now you're a man of faith.
There's no one that God loves more than the one who has repented and come home.
That person stands on a higher pedestal and sits on a higher throne than the one who has never sinned.
It takes a tremendous amount of humility to admit one's flaws.
And that's the purpose of creation.
So I wanted to thank you all for your transparency on this show.
This was a wonderful show.
Thank you, Ali Alexander.
You can find him on True Social at Ali.
Do you still have your give, send, go?
Yes, I do. What's the Gibson go?
Just Ali or Gibson? Ali Alexander, and that's a legal defense fund.
It gets routed through the law firms and never touches here.
And yeah, we got several things on the congressional front, the civil front, both offense and defense.
So thank you. I encourage all of my rich friends, go give to Ali and help this guy out.
He's one of the leaders of our country and he needs your help.
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