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April 21, 2026 - Alex Jones Show
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TUESDAY TRANSMISSION: Is This The End Of Infowars? The Onion Is Fraudulently Claiming They Took Over Infowars AGAIN After Being Caught Trying To Pull Off Same Hoax In 2024! PLUS, Iran War Plunges Trump’s Approval Rating To All-Time Low Of 32 Points! Former Trump Lawyer & Constitutional Expert Robert Barnes Joins The Alex Jones Show To Raise The Alarm On The Increasing Possibility Of Nuclear Escalation With Iran Under President Trump's Leadership! Russian Military Expert Viktor Bout Warns Israel Is Trying To

Alex Jones and guests Robert Barnes, Viktor Bout, and Elizabeth Lane dissect a chaotic April 2026 landscape where The Onion fraudulently claims Infowars ownership while Trump's approval plummets to 32 amid alleged nuclear escalation fears. They expose claims that Tyler Robinson was framed in Charlie Kirk's assassination, citing family recordings contradicting media narratives, and warn of global economic collapse if Iran is attacked. The discussion culminates in urgent calls for financial support via merchandise to sustain operations against perceived globalist shutdowns and biological weapon conspiracies. [Automatically generated summary]

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Participants
Main
alex jones
infowars 01:39:43
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elizabeth lane
17:03
rachel maddow
msnow 05:12
r
robert barnes
26:46
viktor bout
31:13
Appearances
ben collins
02:44
candace owens
02:46
donald j trump
admin 00:58
jp sears
01:11
r
rima laibow
01:16
r
ryan mcbride
00:51
tucker carlson
dailycaller 02:06
Clips
b
buckley carlson
00:10
c
carol baker
00:24
darrin mcbreen
infowars 00:29
g
george stephanopoulos
abc 00:15
jim acosta
cnn 00:05
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naftali bennett
00:23
p
pablo s torre
00:19
u
usman jadoon
un 00:15

Speaker Time Text
Never Be Silenced 00:05:10
darrin mcbreen
Hey, just a reminder if InfoWars gets shut down tomorrow, you'll still be able to find us on X at Real Alex Jones and on Rumble.
Just look for The Alex Jones Show.
We're broadcasting live on both platforms.
Plus, you'll find special reports and breaking news as it happens.
So check it out.
Share the links and let the Democrat Deep State Party know we will never be silenced.
unidentified
News today.
alex jones
Investigative journalist Elizabeth Lane is going to be joining us in the fourth hour.
She's gotten recordings of Tyler Robinson's family from sources at the courthouse, seven of them saying they don't believe he was a shooter and there's a cover up.
But when you tune into national media, control corporate media, and Trump media, they say that they all unified say he did it.
This is huge.
And she's going to break massive news, not just the huge news that broke yesterday.
Coming up in the fourth hour, Robert Barnes, former Trump lawyer, really smart expert on geopolitics, the economy, what's unfolding.
He joins us in the second hour.
Victor Boot, Russian military expert, elected official in Russia, that nobody gets to interview.
He's coming on with us because he was a political prisoner for 10 years here in the United States and listened to my show every day on AM radio.
That's the only reason I'm able to get him.
It's a big guest.
We'll analyze geopolitics, the Iran war, and more in that hour.
But obviously, I'm going to hit a lot of the other huge news.
Trump's approval rating is down an all time low, 32 points.
They thought it couldn't go below 33, another all time low.
And Trump's freaking out over Democrats winning all these different special elections around the country.
Well, Trump, it's attacking your own base.
It's launching an unpopular war.
It's having all the insider trading and Howard Lutnick lying about Epstein.
I mean, people are pissed, man.
We're not like the Democrats that just cult like support anything.
And then you see one of the top trending stories since yesterday, about 1 p.m., when it broke the satirical leftist owned Bloomberg financed Onion is saying that.
They already own InfoWars and are in the building.
I have clips of them saying, We're in the building and we own it.
They did that in November of 2024, 17, 18 months ago.
This time, they've not even had a court hearing.
They're just declaring that they own it.
Last time that happened, it killed the traffic to InfoWarsStore.com by 75%.
And it never came back.
People just think they own it, so they're not going to support them.
Talk about deception, folks.
And they're running around saying that they're going to, they hired a guy that can talk like me and that they're going to say they're me and then say lies to discredit me.
I mean, it's totally, absolutely illegal.
But that's what the left does.
They get away with everything.
So we've got some of that to hit here, obviously, today.
But it is true that we are set to shut down on May 1st.
That's how they scheduled it because they're not the receiver that's trying to do a deal with them at the state court level.
It's unofficial.
He, um, Once those shut down.
And they're not paying the electric bill, internet bill, any of that stuff.
You know, there's plenty of money to fund it and run it.
But they can't officially in the court shut us down because it's on appeal.
So they're doing it the other way and saying they're going to lease it to the Onion so they can come in here and try to confuse people.
I mean, it's going to blow up in their face spectacularly.
Obviously, we can block it in court as well, cut and dry.
But they hadn't even had a court hearing to do it.
They just said, we're doing it, which means Judge Ware Gamble that ran the show trials.
She's done this before where she says, Okay, I'm going to rule however you say, give me the paperwork to the Democrat lawyers.
They write up whatever ruling they want, and they just hand it to her, and then she signs it.
So they think they're definitely coming here to do this.
Hey, but guess what?
We have the Alex Jones Network, AJN Live on X, major news site about to be launched and announced here in the coming days.
But that's why I've been telling you it looked like we shut down the 30th.
We've survived a lot of times, literal miracles.
People start thinking it's kind of cry wool for chicken little.
No, it's more like Muhammad Ali winning match after match after match.
And when it looks like he's going down, rallying, coming back.
I'm not saying I'm Muhammad Ali, but the audience of supporters and activists and info warriors are Muhammad Ali.
And that's what's happened here.
But hey, it's just absolutely insane.
Muhammad Ali Spirit 00:07:13
alex jones
We'll get to all of that and so much more.
Huge developments in the Iran warfront and just big developments domestically with what the Democrats are up to.
Stay with us.
Remember, you're the Paul Revere.
Share the live feeds on X, Roll, Ox Jones, and Rumble on the Ox Jones channel.
Stay with us.
It's Tuesday, April 21st, 2026.
Well, we have a really important transmission with massive guests with incredible breaking news concerning the assassination of Charlie Kirk and more today.
This is going to be earth shaking information, not just what broke yesterday that was bombshell.
The grandfather and other family members of Tyler Robinson saying, No, we don't think he did it, and the ballistics don't match, and we think it's a cover up and a setup.
When we're told they all say he did it, that he all confessed.
And now I've learned seven family members.
Have gone on record about this.
Elizabeth Lane, investigative journalist, lives in Utah, who's been in studio with us.
She will break all this new information in the fourth hour today.
But first, the big elephant in the room Israel is now openly announcing it wants a greater Israel, the greater Levant, Lebanon, you name it.
Now, the Israeli national news is saying that the government wants to hit Turkey.
I mean, this is a crazy town.
John Bounds followed a report.
Here it is.
It's supposedly low IQ to explain that the Israeli intelligence assessment, even though the IDF disagreed, by the way.
tucker carlson
Israeli politician, leader Neftali Bennett explaining Israel's next step.
Here's where they're going next.
unidentified
Watch.
naftali bennett
A new Turkish threat is emerging.
I want to be very clear Turkey and Qatar have gained influence in Syria, are seeking influence elsewhere and everywhere throughout the region.
And from here, I warn Turkey is the new Iran.
Erdogan is sophisticated, dangerous, and he seeks to encircle Israel.
We can't close our eyes again.
tucker carlson
He's sophisticated and dangerous.
It's hardly an endorsement of Erdogan, the Turkish leader, hardly an endorsement of him to say.
When Bennett says he's dangerous, what he really means is he's sovereign.
We can't tell him what to do.
We don't fully control him.
We can influence him, and it's clear that Israel and Turkey did have some kind of relationship in the overthrow of Bashar al Assad in Syria last year, just a guess.
But the real problem with Turkey is that it can't be controlled.
So it is therefore a threat to Israel.
And again, not attacking Israel.
That's true.
usman jadoon
Immediate, full, and unconditional withdrawal from all occupied Lebanese territories.
Sustainable calm requires the full implementation of Security Council Resolution 1701 and unwavering respect for Lebanon's sovereignty and territorial integrity along the blue line.
alex jones
Israel is not just controlling our foreign policy, they're trying to get full control of the media, even more control of domestic policy to ensure on their flank their takeover of the Middle East and to make sure we join them in this.
So, this is the new world war being set up.
We were supposed to pivot to deal with China.
Nope, sorry.
Israel says China can do whatever it wants.
You work for us.
It's a big deal.
And if you talk about it, well, you're just anti Jewish.
What?
Tucker is absolutely right.
This is how big empires operate, and Israel is acting like an empire because it controls to a great extent the United States.
They've got polls in Israel.
The majority of Israelis want a greater Israel, they want half of Lebanon, they want large pieces of the rest of the Middle East.
And if they think they can go take it, well, then that's up to them.
But we should not pay for it and we shouldn't die for it.
And so, when Tucker Carlson recently came out and said that Turkey and Lebanon are next, that's because not just Netanyahu's party, but the other major parties, the other two conservative parties that make up the majority together, they're openly giving speeches.
I played them a few weeks ago here saying yes.
They're even trying to start selling advanced real estate speculative contracts on once it's taken over, who will get first dibs on it.
And so they're carpet bombing Christians in Lebanon, 30 plus thousand homes destroyed.
And when you tune into the Christian Zionist channels that are the dominant channels on cable, there's not a damn word about this, except Huckabee got asked about it a month ago by Tucker, saying, So according to your interpretation of Genesis, Israel can have the whole Middle East.
And he said, Yes, just take it all.
You want to see the clip again?
tucker carlson
What is entirely fair for me, with respect, to ask, What land are you talking about?
Because I just read Genesis 15, as I have many times.
And that land, I think it says from the Nile to the Euphrates, which is once again, basically the entire Middle East.
So God gave that land to his people, the Jews, or he didn't.
You're saying he did.
What does that mean?
Does Israel have the right to that land?
Because you're appealing to Genesis.
You're saying that's the original deed.
unidentified
It would be fine if they took it all.
alex jones
Okay.
So you go take it all then.
And that, and I've seen Netanyahu's deputy and the leaders of the other parties say on Fox News, Turkey is the new enemy after we take down Iran.
Well, it's got the biggest conventional military in NATO.
And they just worked with Turkey, Israel did a year and a half ago, right before Trump got in, to take down Assad and put Al Qaeda in.
So it's just, it's a disgusting mess.
It's a black hole.
It's totally insane.
All right, folks, strap yourselves in.
For this Tuesday, April 21st, 2026, transmission.
Elizabeth Lane is a very well known, respected investigative journalist.
She lives in Utah.
She's been investigating for seven months since Charlie Kirk was killed.
And she has breaking absolute proof that basically Tyler Robinson's entire family, parents, grandparents, everybody says he's totally innocent.
This is a cover up.
And I can show you the news articles and the clips.
They're currently saying it, that they all think he did it.
But they say the official story is not true.
Some of the family members got recorded.
She ended up getting the recordings.
Official Story False 00:03:04
alex jones
I'll leave it at that.
And now she's been talking to folks, and she's going to reveal exclusive information in the fourth hour today.
Robert Barnes on the Iran war, on the economy, on Trump having the lowest approval rating in his history, 32 points now, down from 33 just last week.
And can Trump be salvaged?
This is just a disaster.
Certainly not happy about it.
That is all coming up in the second hour.
Victor Boot, geopolitical expert and Russian military expert, elected official in Russia, exclusively joining us in the third hour.
But the big headline is Is this the end of InfoWars?
The Onion is fraudulently claiming they took over InfoWars again after being caught trying to pull off the same hoax in November of 2024.
Tune in now for the truth.
Plus, Iran war plunges Trump's approval rating to all time low 32 points.
Tune in to Chevrolet feed now.
Now, Before I hit all that, let's talk about InfoWars.
I've been on the air since April 15th, 1994.
So just five, six days ago was the 32nd anniversary of being on air.
I got the URL infowars.com in 1997 when the Austin deputy fire chief, that was a listener and a big John Birch Society guy, was friends with him and his wife, had dinner with him a lot, had him on the show.
He kind of was an unofficial producer.
He was still on the fire department, then retired right after that.
Great guy, Vic Freeland, Air Force Intelligence, before he was a firefighter.
He said, You need to call yourself InfoWar.
Well, I went and looked at the register, and InfoWar.com was taken by some security company, but InfoWars.com was available.
And he showed me how to register it, launched the website, a basic website, showed me how to post just basic articles, links to them.
So I'd post three or four articles each day before my show started, and we were off the races.
Wikipedia falsely says it started in 99.
That's just not true.
But it's a little factoid there.
So the term InfoWars or InfoWars was not really popular in the public.
People didn't know what that meant.
Vic Freeland had been in Air Force Intelligence, so he did.
And we now popularize the term.
It's used everywhere now.
And in 2015, 16, 17, I wasn't really keeping score, but the mainstream media and the CIA did.
And the Rockefeller Foundation, the Documents Republic, recognized that I was the most popular English speaking program, multimedia, audio, video, text in the world for three years.
We're still in the top five.
And I just had my head down fighting the globalists, didn't really pay attention to the billions of views we're having a month on Facebook and YouTube, and just blowing it away with top ratings across the country on talk radio.
Media And CIA Control 00:11:04
alex jones
But we're talking in the top 10 on Alexa in places like the UK.
Just wrecking it in some African countries.
Number one, it was bizarre.
It was popular.
And so they came after me with lawfare and demonization and attacks starting in 2017.
And the globalists came to me in off record meetings and said, We're going to sue you into oblivion.
It's going to start in a few months unless you come work for us.
And I said, No.
And so we've held them off despite the de platforming, the lawsuits, the dirty tricks, the attacks, the target of my family.
They're billion and a half dollar judgments.
Then the Democrat Party, CIA, DOJ declassified, ran the lawsuits, funded the lawsuits, all of it.
They couldn't get the federal judges to engage in their criminal activities, trying to take it away.
And so it got kicked back into state court.
And the judge that ran the show trials three years ago, Judge Guerra Gamble, the Texas show trial, over a year ago, she put a Texas receiver in.
To come in and start selling it off.
He committed suicide a month after.
I later learned people that know him over his wife leaving him.
Don't even, never met the guy.
I'm sad.
I'm not glad he's dead.
That was really weird.
Then they put in a new guy about nine, 10 months ago.
I only met him once.
He didn't really talk.
Came here to the office, him and his lawyer.
And they.
Said, oh, yeah, we're going to do an auction.
We're going to follow the law.
We're going to put it up for auction so people that support you can get it or whoever can get it to be open and fair.
And we said, they're not going to let you do that.
The plaintiffs aren't.
And then we noticed a few months ago, they said, well, we're no longer going to pay the satellite bill, the internet bill, things like that.
And then starting about a month ago, they began to not pay the bills, even though there's money to operate.
Not a ton of extra, but it's there.
And so.
I looked at the tea leaves, as you know, in the last month, and I said, Looks like April 30th, because they're going to stop paying the rent then, and it's due May 1st, and the satellite bill, they've already let us go a month over, not paying.
They said, We're turning you off.
So I said, Well, essentially then, if my satellite's turned off to my radio stations, if I go off the air for a few days, they'll get rid of the show.
That is a hard line that we're not giving up, we're not abandoning ship.
That's a sunk ship.
So I said, we will May 1st launch the Alex Jones network and convert over.
Well, it looks like I nailed it again because it's about 1 p.m. yesterday, and the crew walks in and hands me a New York Times article while I'm taking calls.
And I rarely read articles while callers are talking.
I mean, I listen to you.
That's why I had to go back to the caller and say, What was it you were saying?
Because I sped read the eight page article.
I can speed read pretty fast, about a minute.
And then I got the caller off and then announced what was happening.
Because it's held up on Texas appeal, and because the Third Court of Appeals has signaled they're going to overturn the Texas judgment, because it was so ridiculous.
I'm not going to get into all the stuff that happened, but just the judge said, I don't care if the Texas cap is at $2 million.
I'm busting it to $47 million, and I'm finding him civilly liable for abuse of elders two weeks after the jury trial on the show trial, where Shorty found me guilty, was over.
She said, I don't care if the Supreme Court doesn't like this, I'm doing it.
Well, it's against the law to then say you're guilty of something or liable for something two weeks after a jury's already come in and just tag that on.
But that's how she thought she'd bust the caps.
So I was in the appeals court hearings a year ago when they looked at their lawyers and said, You can't do that.
And their lawyer laughed at them and said, Doesn't matter, we have the Connecticut judgment, sort of laughing like a witch.
And the three judge panel Democrats went, Hearing's over.
And they've kept a stay on for almost a year, which is unprecedented.
It doesn't let them shut us down.
So you're not supposed to shut us down when there's a Texas stay and there's a federal court stay.
Lopez kicked it out of his court eight months ago because they asked for that, but he kept a stay on.
And they are hopping pissed, okay?
And we've read rulings by the Third Court of Appeals on other First Amendment issues that literally quote our briefings and cases we filed.
My lawyer saw it, looked at it, and said, my God.
This is literally lifted from our filings.
So they're going our way.
And if they don't, definitely the Texas Supreme Court.
Because the judge thumbed her nose at them when she did that.
She said, I don't care.
I'm doing it.
She literally said that.
And we have that in the transcript in our filings as well.
Imagine the judges reading this.
I mean, this is just bonkertown.
So the Onion, Ben Collins, the MSNBC equivalent of Brian Stelter, when he was the censorship czar, they would announce who was bad.
They went on CNN and would say who to censor and who to de platform, starting with me.
He was the counterpart of that at MSNBC and worked for Rachel Maddow, who's we got a clip of her celebrating yesterday, attacking me.
I'll get that in a moment.
And they said, InfoWars is ours.
We now have it.
We're control the studio and control the building, control the websites.
None of that's true.
There's not even been a fake auction they got caught in that the judge said looked like it was illegal and overturned almost two years ago.
Remember that?
Federal judge.
This time, they just say, oh, we talked to the receiver and we read the filing.
He's open to leasing it or selling it to them, but he'd have to have a bunch of hearings.
We can appeal it.
So they just announce that they own it.
And you see the headlines everywhere saying that complete, absolute horse manure.
And so I dealt with that yesterday, went through it all.
They're already selling InfoWars merch on their website, on The Onion, which is, they're totally liable.
Open and shut court cases right there of violations of all sorts of stuff.
They're just maniacs, absolute maniacs.
But I am forced to shut down because the satellites, they told us to turn off midnight next Thursday.
And we've got to go to our 400 plus stations and cable stations.
We have a video feed too.
We have to have that.
It's like $18,000 a month.
So that's all set up, the Oxford's network ready to go, ready to do all of it so we don't miss a beat.
And they could turn us up before then because a bunch of bills haven't been paid for a month.
They already turned off three weeks ago the seven or eight InfoWars phones we use to stream in the field and do reports.
So everybody's reporters and stuff are using their own personal phones.
I always use mine, anyways.
So stuff's already turning off.
So I don't know if we'll make it the nine days until next Thursday night at midnight.
That'll be our last show.
We'll go late into the night, all that because that's happened.
But we'll be in the snowman's land where obviously we're going to go fight them in court, block them the rest of it because.
They say in all these new interviews and the ones they did 18 months ago, 17 months ago, when they fell last time and lied about having control and did the fake auction they got caught in, the judge fired everybody that was involved, including the U.S. trustee from the Justice Department who was running it.
They are saying that no, Alex Jones is a liar, so we're going to copy his lies and make money for the Sandy Hook families, Democrat Party fundraising machine, raise $300 million off my name.
It's just bizarre.
We're going to put out disinfo in his name.
They've hired a comedian that sounds like me and looks a little bit like me.
They've already put out promo videos saying, We're the new InfoWars, the guy that looks a little bit like me with a bald head and talks like me with a deep, grabbly voice.
And they say we're doing this to hurt him and hurt his brand to literally wear my skin.
You can't do that.
I mean, it's just, but see, they're backed by Michael Bloomberg and unlimited funding.
So they've been told to do this.
It's basically a kamikaze attack.
And so we will continue on.
We will fight them.
But the reason the receiver won't sell it to them is he knows it's going to be overturned on appeal, and then they have triple damages for all of that.
So instead, he says he's going to, if the court approves it, lease it to them for six months.
So they took that, the name and all that, they took that and ran with it and said, no, it's ours.
We control it.
So I'm going to go out to break with a little montage of them a year and a half ago saying they had it, which they didn't, and dovetailing with what they're now saying here it is.
unidentified
Yeah.
george stephanopoulos
At first, explain why you wanted to buy this site, what you plan to do with it.
ben collins
Yeah, so we thought it would be the funniest joke of all time, basically, when we heard about it.
And I think that's borne out, frankly.
So Infowars is a clearinghouse for lies and nonsense in a bad way.
Like the garbage that they've put out over the last two decades has really hurt a lot of people.
jim acosta
New this morning, the satirical news site The Onion has just won an auction to acquire the media outlet Infowars.
unidentified
That is right.
The Onion buys Alex Jones' Infowars in a bankruptcy auction.
It sounded like a headline you would read in a satirical newspaper, but this is no joke.
ben collins
The Onion plans to turn InfoWars into a parody, mocking the kind of disinformation that Alex Jones amplified.
We do lies and garbage in a different way.
We have a lot more fun with it than they do.
We're very excited to take it over and, you know, create a new, better path for this website.
george stephanopoulos
Overnight, the judge in charge of this put a hold on your purchase, raising questions about the process, raising questions about transparency in the bidding process.
What do you make of that?
Are you confident this is still going to go through?
ben collins
Yeah, look, we won the bid.
We own Infores and we are very excited about that.
george stephanopoulos
But is it true that you didn't have the highest bid?
ben collins
We did have the highest bid when you take into account the family's concessions here.
They made a concerted effort to make this the best and highest bid for everybody involved.
So we're very excited to take that over.
And look, it's Alex Jones.
If he just handled this graciously and moved away, that would be the funniest part of this whole situation.
pablo s torre
This news breaks.
unidentified
Yeah.
pablo s torre
And it's an enormous deal.
Everyone's covering it.
alex jones
And then this is yesterday.
pablo s torre
It doesn't happen.
unidentified
Yeah.
pablo s torre
So the answer I'm here to find out is like, what the f did happen?
And also, in the process of that, what happened to you?
Focus And Clarity 00:02:52
ben collins
Medicine.
Antidepressants.
That's what happened to me.
So we've come to an agreement with the receiver that we get to take over this asset pretty much immediately in a couple of days.
unidentified
Wow.
Yeah.
pablo s torre
Wait, so just to be clear, then, the actual big exclusive announcement here is that The Onion has finally acquired InfoWars.
unidentified
Yes.
Yes, we have.
ben collins
We've taken over the InfoWars studio and the IP and the website and all that stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
So here I am sitting in InfoWars.
There's been no court hearing.
We can 100% appeal it, block it for six months, we want, win it.
And they're just saying the lie again.
This is what they do.
This is the Democrats.
This is the left hand path.
This is who they are.
Wait till I show you when we come back.
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Scammy Assets Tied Up 00:16:08
alex jones
All right, we're giving you major updates to the future of InfoWars, which is great because a URL, even if they get it, which they haven't got it, they're lying about with this Bloomberg Democrat backed, DOJ backed operation.
You're the InfoWar.
Information warfare, telling the truth, countering lies, or on free your mind.
This will only make us bigger.
There's a Roman saying that you have not been defeated until you tell yourself you've been defeated.
Print the exact Latin parlance on it.
I think the Romans said it better than I did.
Guys, look that up.
We'll come back with it later.
Harrison read it yesterday perfectly on air during the war room.
The Romans saying, You are not defeated until you believe you're defeated.
Well, we don't just have hopium here.
We're more influential than ever.
That doesn't mean me, it means our guests, our hosts, the listeners, the activists.
You are men and women in the arena.
I salute you.
So here's Rachel Maddow with her former MSNBC censorship expert colleague.
That now is over at The Onion with Bloomberg, a year and a half after they failed and got egg on their face, announcing that I'm finally getting my comeuppance for the bad things I did that I never did.
The judges found me guilty before the show trials, wouldn't let us put on evidence, had a fake billion and a half dollar judgment.
And they always say, I won't pay them, I won't give them money.
They have sucked out of the operation over $10 million during the bankruptcy.
They've been paid that money.
And they never even wanted to keep it.
They used it to pay for private investigators, four different firms and international accounting firms to find the hidden money in my criminal activity and to sue my parents.
And then all they found was that I told the exact truth.
The New York Times would admit.
Turns out he had meager assets and wasn't hiding money.
Hundreds of millions of dollars they claimed I had.
At one point, I had $9 million in the bank because I was given a Bitcoin donation and I put it all back into the company because we needed it.
It was perfect.
And the next three years, it turned out that was the exact underage around $3 million a year we needed.
And remember when they had me on the stand in Connecticut, they said, What'd you do with that Bitcoin money?
Which I could have kept, it was donated to me.
And I said, I put it all in the company.
We're going to check with the Justice Department.
If you're lying, you're going to jail.
You want to change your testimony?
I said, No, I did that.
They couldn't believe it because it doesn't matter.
Money to me is just an engine, a funding system to fight tyranny.
It's not what I'm going after.
A nice car, nice house, medical care, nice travel.
Great, that's all wonderful.
I like a nice steak.
But that's it.
Accumulating things is not what I'm doing.
I'm trying to.
Fight tyranny and stand up for humanity.
That's what invigorates me.
That's what empowers me.
So here she is celebrating.
She's the one that, on top of her regular pay, was getting $89,000 per show during the COVID rollout to say if you take the shot, you can't get COVID or spread COVID.
All lies.
Turns out it makes you get COVID more and makes you sick.
She's the monster.
She's the fraud.
She has the imploded ratings.
So here is Mr. Maddow.
rachel maddow
In the vast, weird, really right wing media universe in the United States of America, there's a special and unique place held by an outlet called InfoWars, and it's manic host Alex Jones.
Alex Jones, for decades, has peddled Baroque conspiracy theories alongside a really scammy trade in survivalist merchandise and hilarious supplements that promise lots of things I cannot even say or describe on base.
alex jones
All right, let's stop right there.
Oh, like Methylene Blue, pushed by the HHS secretary.
Oh, and Bovine Colostrum, that everybody knows is awesome.
Everything I sell is sold by Whole Foods, and we sell the highest quality of it.
NAD isn't good.
PQQ isn't good.
CoQ10 isn't good.
Irish CMOS isn't good.
Medical grade B12 isn't good.
Why do you go to any grocery store to just expand it?
Everybody knows.
You go to your medical doctor, they're putting you on it.
Oh, my gosh, so scammy.
We can't, so bad.
We can't even show you.
Oh, then you just imagine.
My goodness.
Is it rhino horns or something?
Is it baby powder like they caught the Chinese selling?
unidentified
No.
alex jones
No, it's not.
It's incredible stuff that works that gets five star ratings.
So again, she just, all of it's lies.
Continue.
rachel maddow
Things I cannot even say or describe on Basic Cable.
Infowars isn't just one more thing in the weird right wing media world.
For all its ridiculousness, Infowars has left a real world trail that is.
Not just toxic, I would argue it is evil.
Specifically, when it comes to Alex Jones's signature conspiracy theory that the 2012 massacre of school kids at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut didn't really happen, that it was a hoax, and the kids who were all killed there are in fact still alive or they never existed in the first place.
unidentified
Is it possible?
alex jones
No, the first year or so when I talked about it, I said it happened.
It looked like there was an accomplice that was reported to a guy in the camo that he got arrested.
They wanted to shut that down.
But a bunch of professors and other people said it didn't happen.
I interviewed a few people and hadn't talked about it for over three years when they sued me.
But they say I made all my money off of it.
I'm obsessed on it.
Then they make $300 million in their charity off of me.
That's the facts.
Here it is.
rachel maddow
Believably cruel.
As Alex Jones.
unidentified
Oh, again.
alex jones
Show us the cruelty.
Show me the evil supplements so bad that you can't show me.
Show me the cruelty.
Where's the clips?
Oh, I'm going to show you later.
Matt House saying if you take the shot, you can't get COVID and can't spread it.
Total lie.
She knew it was.
See, we show you what they say.
Continue.
rachel maddow
Pushed that insanity on InfoWars.
Some of his fans subjected the grieving families in Sandy Hook to years of online abuse and harassment and death threats.
Years into it, in 2018, several Sandy Hook families sued Alex Jones for defamation.
Juries found him liable.
The families were ultimately awarded about $1.5 billion.
But the families have never received a penny of that because Alex Jones declared bankruptcy after the verdict.
alex jones
Look at the court records at least $10 million.
$10 million.
Because they had me audited by the IRS, they'd only gotten like five point something.
And then they had me audited, and the IRS said, Oh my God, you overpaid $4.3 in the last five years and gave them that.
And the IRS is like, This never happens.
$10 million, lady.
$10 million.
You're a lying sack of filth.
Back to her.
rachel maddow
The judge ordered that all of InfoWars' assets, including intellectual property, the InfoWars brand itself, needed to be sold off to help Alex Jones satisfy those debts to the families.
Well, you may remember about your own.
unidentified
Back it up.
alex jones
All eyes.
We offered them $75 million over 10 years, more than I ever made personally.
But I said, they're going to refuse it.
And they refused that.
So they've refused more money than I ever made personally in 30 years on air at the time.
unidentified
Again.
alex jones
Oh, the satisfy the debt.
Continue.
rachel maddow
Alex Jones declared bankruptcy after the verdict.
A bankruptcy judge ordered that all of InfoWars' assets.
alex jones
It bars again.
Declared bankruptcy before because I had no money.
And they were saying I had all this money and I would show them I had no money.
More lies continue.
rachel maddow
Self needed to be sold off to help Alex Jones satisfy those debts to the families.
Well, you may remember about a year and a half ago, we learned that the surprise winner of an auction of InfoWars assets was the satirical news site The Onion, for which Alex Jones and InfoWars would, of course, be a delicious punchline.
The Onion would turn InfoWars into a parody of itself.
alex jones
Opposes us.
rachel maddow
Stop it from.
Doing more harm.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
rachel maddow
Maybe repairing some of the harm that it's done.
You might also remember, though, that almost as soon as The Onion got a hold of InfoWars, they lost it again.
Alex Jones challenged the auction.
It's been tied up in court ever since.
But then today, a breakthrough.
This is the front page of The Onion tonight.
Look, The Onion, InfoWars.
You can see the top story in the upper left there.
At long last, InfoWars is ours.
You see the InfoWars.
Logo with the onion for the O in info on the upper right hand side of the screen.
The Onion today announced that pending final approval by a judge, they have reached an arrangement to actually truly take over the.
alex jones
Hit pause again.
No, they didn't say pending a judge.
They said, it's ours.
We won.
Let me show you the headlines.
Here's ours The Onion has fraudulently claimed again that it owns InfoWars.
And that's right.
That's accurate.
Now, here's the headlines The Onion.
Relaunches InfoWars as a legal wrangling continues.
So here's NBC News saying they have it.
Now here's Bloomberg that's actually financing the attacks.
Actually, it's right.
The Onion aims to seize Alex Jones' InfoWars in lease deal.
Ames.
Ames.
It hasn't happened, but they say they did.
The Onion launches a new effort to turn InfoWars into a parody website to discredit me, to put out disinfo in my name.
Alex Jones disputes the Onion's announcement that it controls InfoWars.
It's true.
They don't yet.
It's Newsweek.
The Onion's bid for Alex Jones InfoWars awaits Texas judges' approval, USA Today.
That's accurate.
They're asking for it.
Alex Jones has shirtless meltdown as The Onion prepares to relaunch InfoWars.
No, I made a joke about you can get my shirt, the website, but you don't get me.
I'm going to make us bigger.
The Onion signs a new deal to take over InfoWars, New York Times.
There's no deal signed.
Satire website The Onion launches a new bid to take over InfoWars.
Yeah, it's a new bid.
So that's it.
Lies upon lies.
Back to Rachel Maddow.
rachel maddow
InfoWars page, like the original, is chock full of scammy ads.
The scammy products include a Demon Guard patch, 24 hour.
alex jones
You'll say, pause it again, back it up five seconds.
So she wouldn't show you our scam products t shirts, ball caps, badass knives, silver coins.
She wouldn't show you the scams we're doing, but oh, here's the scams they're doing.
And they want Infowars.com to do this with a guy that sounds and looks like me to then, they say in the New York Times, to discredit me.
unidentified
Wow.
alex jones
Truly terroristic.
Let's go back.
rachel maddow
So, pure O oxygen capsules, as well as an offer to quote, learn to float, discover the secret.
This is all meant to do some practical good as well.
Proceeds from the new onion run Infowars will go in part towards.
Starting to pay off Alex Jones's incredible debts to the families of Sandy Hook.
Joining us now is my old friend, Ben Collins, CEO of The Onion.
Ben, congratulations.
alex jones
Yeah, old friend.
He used to work for Mad Al.
Her old friend.
This is MSNBC trying to take a show off the air that has more viewers than their old network.
unidentified
Continue.
rachel maddow
Thank you so much for making time to be here tonight.
ben collins
Oh, thank you, Rachel.
It's quite a day.
rachel maddow
What didn't I say about this that you want people to know, or did I say anything about it that I got wrong?
ben collins
No, you got everything right.
I do want people to remember that it was nine days after the election, the 2014 election, where we saw the burning building known as the Infor's auction and walked directly into it, knowing.
That likely no one else but Alex Jones is going to bid on that thing.
And we won that auction, and then it was held up in court for reasons we still no one understands.
alex jones
And yeah, no, the judge said it appeared to be criminal fraud, but he wasn't going to go that far.
But he said this can be seen as criminal.
And it's because he ordered a public auction for money, for cash, and then you guys behind the scenes, the day before the auction, canceled it and then gave it to you.
For fiat currency off of my future earnings.
He goes, for reasons we don't know.
Oh, you know full well.
Continue.
ben collins
Threatened by Alex Jones with the long arm of the Trump government, where he had a lot of friends.
And, you know, thankfully, these families, my family.
unidentified
Pause again.
alex jones
20 families, only three families sued me.
And two of the families run the big foundations that raise money off my name saying I'm harassing them, 300 million at least.
But yeah, the DOJ was criminally investigating them.
On their own, Ed Martin, and then Todd Blanch, deputy head, killed it six, seven months ago.
And now Ed Martin's been removed from that position.
And now Todd Blanch is the head of the DOJ, and Trump is using Sandy Hook to attack me and has endorsed this.
Isn't that nice?
Even though the Paul Weiss law firm is above this, also involving the Epstein cover up at the heart of it.
And they did a $40 million settlement with Trump, but now Trump is with the Paul Weiss law firm celebrating this, saying, I deserve it.
I'm supposed to go, oh, that's wonderful, Trump.
You've joined your old enemies to celebrate going after people.
That just criticized you being set up by Israel to go to this war, and we've been proven right.
So, just again, I'm stopping and starting because everything he says is a lie.
Let's continue.
ben collins
Saw it through, and we're about to take over this thing and do something really fun.
rachel maddow
Can you tell us more about what your plans are for InfoWars?
I mean, obviously, you've got the InfoWars website, but what else do you get, and what should we expect you to do with it?
ben collins
Yeah, you know, we'll get everything inside of it.
alex jones
We'll pause again.
We'll back it up to the seconds.
Notice you just said we're about to take over.
I have the clips, I'll play them.
Clip after clip of him on other shows yesterday, podcasts, and news articles saying, We have taken it over.
We're in control.
We're there.
No, you're not.
People are warning him, Hey, Ben, you need to stop lying so obviously here.
Oh, we're about to take it over like a year and a half ago, right?
No, you're not.
Now, the receiver could turn the internet off and kick us out of the building.
That's happening.
But you got a big fight on your hands and then a civil rights lawsuit after that, pal.
unidentified
Okay?
alex jones
Back to him.
rachel maddow
Can you tell us more about what your plans are for InfoWars?
I mean, obviously, you've got the InfoWars website, but what else do you get?
And what should we expect you to do with it?
ben collins
Yeah, you know, we'll get everything inside of that way too vast studio in Austin, Texas, where I think we also get like a rowing machine or something.
There's something in the inventory list that's a little ridiculous.
But we're excited to find out what's actually in there.
Most importantly, though, we get to, you know, take over this name and.
Look, you know, Rachel, the way people get their information now has changed.
They get it from people who think, who tell you that you're like one enema away from solving world hunger or something.
That's not actually true, but no one has really made fun of these people professionally yet.
unidentified
And I think they do.
Let me pause again.
alex jones
Not once have they shown a clip of me saying something.
Not once have they shown proof of the bad products.
Not once.
Did I ever say take an enema and save world hunger?
What is this?
The way to get around disinfo is to say you're a comedian.
That's what they're doing.
No, he's a propagandist at MSNBC who ran the censorship operation against America of the elections, everything.
This is spook, folks.
Selling Poison Products 00:04:57
alex jones
Guaranteed.
Continue.
ben collins
Special comedian Tim Heidecker to take over this thing.
And we look forward to infesting your social media feeds with caricatures and grotesqueries of the very people who have ruined our media ecosystem over the last 10 years.
rachel maddow
I have to ask, just because I've been obsessed with it for so long, are you getting all the supplements?
ben collins
I think that's still up in the air.
The first time around, we definitely were, and we were going to boil it all down into one big pill.
Now we're not so sure.
But we will be selling supplement adjacent stuff, maybe water that cures everything.
I believe that we're selling omega 3 fish oil from exclusively conservative fish.
That's a big important thing for us.
rachel maddow
Ben Collins, CEO of The Onion, now at least one of the masters of the InfoWars universe.
Ben, congratulations.
You have definitely bit off more than you can chew.
There's nobody I would rather see do it than you.
Thank you so much for being here, my friend.
Good luck.
alex jones
Yeah, one of our former producers.
Okay.
Oh, yeah, we do sell the highest grade omega 3 fish oil, which heart doctors tell people to take.
Yeah, we're such kooks.
At long last, InfoWars is ours, and it hasn't even had a court hearing.
But it's like magical thinking by these people.
And it goes on and on and on.
But notice they say, Oh, do we eat the supplements?
unidentified
No.
alex jones
The receiver hasn't let us buy a new product for eight months.
So basically, InfoWarsStore.com had no product to sell.
We shut the site down today.
You can't order stuff at the InfoWars Store.
It's still up.
Everybody's going to get their orders.
They ship out in a few days.
We're shut down in like nine days.
Site's over, folks, for now.
It comes back, some miracle, fine.
You'll get all your orders.
It's all there.
TheAloysiumStore.com isn't owned by me.
It's in Arkansas.
That's where you go to get the products.
That's where you go to get the supplements and the evil fish oil that they're making jokes about.
Oh my God, omega-3-nobody needs that.
Man, fish oil is poison.
These people are crazy.
What you need is a COVID shot.
What you need is an experimental gene therapy mRNA, which erases your immune system in their own studies and triples your chances of getting other viruses.
So everybody's sick during the summer now and mad all lying and saying, if you take the shot, you're protected.
You can't get COVID, you can't spread it.
She was paid $89,000 every time she said it on record by Pfizer.
That's the one selling poison.
That's the one.
Oh, I'm selling fish oil.
Oh, and krill oil.
Oh, I'm a bad man.
I apologize for selling fish oil.
No, I don't.
It's excellent.
I sell fish oil.
She sells poison coven shots and blood clots and cancer and infertility and death and miscarriage.
Yeah, viewers demand apology from MSNBC Rachel Maddow for previous COVID vaccine comments.
She needs to be indicted for the conspiracy against humanity, along with Fauci and the rest of them.
So here's Maddow actually saying it.
I don't just tell you she said it like she does about me.
I show you it.
Here it is.
rachel maddow
And I know this sounds like an incremental piece of news, but sit on this for a second enough to absorb what this means.
What this means is that we can get there with vaccines, we can end this thing.
It means that instead of the vaccine being able, excuse me, it means instead of the virus being able to hop from person to person to person to person, spreading and spreading, sickening some of them, but not all of them.
And the ones that it doesn't sicken don't know they have it.
And then they give it to even more people because they didn't recognize they were.
unidentified
All right.
rachel maddow
Instead of the virus being able to hop from person to person to person, potentially mutating and becoming more virulent and drug resistant along the way, now we know that the vaccines work well enough that the virus stops with every vaccinated person.
A vaccinated person gets exposed to the virus.
The virus does not infect them.
The virus cannot then use that person to go anywhere else.
It cannot use a vaccinated person as a host to go get more people.
That means the vaccines will get us to the end of this.
alex jones
So, they lock you down in their own documents for psychological warfare and fear, derange the children, put poison masks on them, lower their oxygen intake, and say, Don't worry, take these shots that they admit is the biggest genetic disaster in modern history.
And the military going around shooting people with rubber bullets who came outside their house.
Vaccines End The Virus 00:07:04
alex jones
The left love that.
Arrest illegal aliens and child molesters.
Oh, they're evil.
And that's what she's selling, that's what she's pushing.
Now, we're going to start the next hour.
I'm actually going to play some COVID clips at the start, the first five.
We're first going to play the CDC head, Carol Baker, clip 12, saying the white people are evil.
We need to kill them all because then we'll take the shots.
We'll play clip 12 when we come back.
We'll play Tucker talking about it, clip 18, the death caused by the shots.
And then we'll play Bob Moran on the mass injection and death.
I want to start the next hour just to remember what these people are up to.
Coming up the start of the next hour.
And then I'm going to go to Robert Barnes and more straight ahead.
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Steal My Identity 00:14:56
carol baker
The solution.
Every study published in the last five years, when you look at vaccine refusers, I'm not talking about, well, hesitants, most of them we can talk into coming to terms, but refusers.
We'll just get rid of all the whites in the United States because Washington is the most diverse city in the entire United States.
There are seven Asian languages spoken in the world.
The solution.
tucker carlson
Sit with him because I'm so upset about it.
It's just killed too many people and it made too many women infertile.
And that's just the most evil thing ever.
And it's still on the schedule.
And this is so immoral.
It's hard to believe this is even happening.
But he did exactly the same thing.
Again, it's my fault for not being like, whoa, that's a red line.
I can't cross it.
But he did the same thing he did on the Iran war.
When I talked about the Iran war, you say, well, like, this is hurting all these people.
He's like, you don't believe in the polio vaccine?
Like, that was a good vaccine, don't you think?
It's like, I guess I believe in the polio vaccine.
I don't know.
I mean, but that's not what we're talking about.
unidentified
It doesn't.
tucker carlson
The polio vaccine is a totally different thing.
I mean, I don't even know enough about it, even though we grew up next to the Salk Institute.
It's like, what does that have to do with it?
You mentioned Iran.
He's like, do you think they ship nuclear weapons?
No, I don't think, not for nuclear weapons in general.
But it was a non sequitur designed to shut down the conversation.
buckley carlson
And the same tactic that's been employed by his political adversaries his entire political life.
tucker carlson
Exactly.
buckley carlson
So it's like, really?
You're going to misquote, you're going to misdirect, you're going to.
unidentified
Yes.
tucker carlson
Construct a straw man.
buckley carlson
Yes.
tucker carlson
There we go.
Well, you're an anti Semite?
You're racist?
Do you think Iran should have nuclear weapons?
Are you pro Islam?
unidentified
No.
I'm an Episcopalian.
tucker carlson
Leave me alone.
unidentified
The mass injecting of more than half the world's population with that drug is the worst thing that has ever happened in the history of our species.
And it has happened now.
And I know that's very, very difficult for a lot of people to accept, particularly people who've had it.
But we are now living.
In the aftermath of that.
And the repercussions are going to go on, I'm afraid, for a very long time.
It's not like, oh, lots of people died and now they've finished dying.
And obviously, we want justice.
People will keep dying, keep being extremely ill, probably be infertile, affected in all kinds of different ways for years and years, I'm afraid.
And people have to kind of accept that that thing, Took place, and anybody who was involved at any kind of high level with making that happen is not your friend.
alex jones
If you think the awakening we've seen so far is big, this planet and the globalists have not seen anything yet!
We're aware of your activities, trying to muzzle the American people and gaming your search results.
Google is evil.
We now take the challenge, not to censor like you do, but to stand against you and to fight even harder for our birthright that you are trying to steal!
Remember this.
You killed your profession by becoming nothing but mercenaries for the globalists, and people know that you're fake news, many of you.
Now, with you trying to kill the First Amendment, you're making yourself true villains.
You've declared war on the First Amendment.
unidentified
You've declared war on free speech.
alex jones
Since when are hundreds of doctors unable to have press conferences in America?
And they take it off YouTube, they take it off Google, they take it off Twitter, they take it off Facebook.
There is a giant crackdown that even the New York Times calls it a crackdown on conservatives and a plan to de platform conservatives.
From the internet and communicating with each other.
Just like communist China.
I'm here to expose this fraud.
unidentified
I'm here.
alex jones
Just like Congress has hearings about me, I go there.
And I get in their face and I expose the truth, and that's what I'm going to do.
We had over 40 million subscribers on Apple.
That was our biggest thing with my three podcasts.
Those were all banned.
unidentified
The most banned man in America, Alex Jones.
alex jones
I said it yesterday, and it got picked up in headlines all over the world.
The Bloomberg Democrat Party backed Onion attempt to hijack this operation, just like they did a year and a half ago, that failed through fraud, is like atomic nuclear testing in the Pacific Ocean in the famous fiction films of Godzilla, Awakening Godzilla, and the lefts and the globalists are Tokyo.
I am just energized by this.
And I've now talked to my lawyers and others, cut and dry.
The Onion's already selling InfoWars products.
There's no judge ruling, no agreement.
It's all lies like last time.
It's like Oprah Winfrey's secret.
They just think if they say that pigs fly and the moon's made out of cheese, it makes it so.
So I've been trying to get Barnes on for a week about the Iran war, Trump, the flip flopping.
There's even more since then.
The midterm numbers, Trump at 32 points.
Can we salvage Trump?
What's all his inside baseball?
He's got even better sources than I do, and I got him right inside the White House.
But now that he's here, because he was a lawyer and advisor of mine, and what he predicted came true.
One of the smartest historians I know, not just a lawyer.
I want to get his take on this because, as you know, six months ago, Todd Blanch, deputy AG at the time, now head of the DOJ, attorney general, killed Ed Martin's weaponization investigation into the cut and dry DOJ CIA declassified running lawfare against me.
And there were six letters in investigations that went out, not just the one everybody heard about, but they also killed the auto pin when they had that chief of staff come and spill his guts, open and shut, and dozens of other things.
That's why there's no indictments.
For hundreds of billions, the Department of Energy shoveled out in the weeks when Biden was leaving, and the hundreds of billions at the EPA and throwing gold bars over the Titanic.
Remember all that?
And Elon being run out.
That was all Todd Blanch.
And there's no doubt that Todd Blanch is out there saying there is no Epstein, it's all over.
This has destroyed Trump in the polls.
Iran's taken it even further.
I have breaking Charlie Kirk information in the fourth hour that is exclusive.
Not just the one recording came out yesterday.
But more.
Seven members of the family saying none of it's true.
He didn't do it.
It's a setup.
Well, they tell you the whole family says he did it.
Elizabeth Lane joins us.
And again, everybody said it was a cover up up front.
The tranny said they would kill him.
I said it could be, but we got to have evidence.
I wasn't covering up everybody's instinct that it was Israel or whatever, or the Trump admin, because he had Trump's ear, which he told me.
Good job fighting the Iran war back during Midnight Hammer.
He called me and said, Keep pushing that and keep exposing Epstein.
Call me twice on those subjects.
I was like, Well, okay, thanks.
You're having a big effect.
But now we have the smoking gun.
We'll get into that with Robert Barnes' little prelude, a little foreshadowing of that.
And so much more with the also popular podcaster.
Just type in Robert Barnes on X or anywhere else.
One of the top podcasts out there.
He does his own, also on Viva Fry.
So, Barnes, I don't want to spend too much time on this, but I always know you follow everything.
We didn't talk before you came on.
I talked to you briefly during the one minute break.
So, you cool to cover this first?
He said, absolutely.
But I don't understand the psychology.
When they got caught running a fake auction, the judge basically said, well, I'm not going to say it's criminal, but it looks criminal.
Firing the U.S. trustee, firing people when they did this a few years ago.
Now they're back doing it again.
And we call the receiver, we call everybody, and it's not even an agreement.
It's not even done.
They said, We'll listen to that idea.
Yeah, we'll look at it.
A judge hasn't approved it.
They're out announcing they own this place and they're selling merchandise.
When they did that a few years ago, it knocked down sales 70 plus percent because people thought they owned it.
So that way, it's to shut us down.
And they say in all these articles and podcasts, We've got a guy that talks like him, looks like him, which they do.
He doesn't really look like me, but he's bald headed.
We're going to misrepresent and tell huge lies to discredit Jones.
So, this is a new level.
When they censor you, they don't just censor you, they then steal your identity.
But, this is a new level in this.
Give us your analysis of what you think we should do.
robert barnes
Yeah, I mean, I thought their claims didn't make a lot of sense because if, in fact, there had been a legitimate legal sale of what is effectively just the URL, just the internet address, it's not the content of anything.
Substantively, it's not the because you've given that away all these years.
You never asserted copyright over anything that you produced.
So that is not owned distinctly by InfoWars.
Anybody can produce or replicate that anywhere, anywhere.
So they don't own that.
They can't own that.
They don't own the physical studio.
They can't own your likeness, despite their efforts to try to steal your identity, steal your identity off of X, steal your identity into perpetuity, steal your identity to pretend to be you with an AI version of you.
And those AI ops are out, you know, they're all over the place with somebody pretending to be somebody they're not.
You can kind of tell if you pay close attention, but they're getting better and better.
But so all of those were legally denied.
And for them to come out and claim they already own the web domain and the brand name, which was always dubious to begin with, didn't make any sense because that's got to be judicially ratified.
And they had previously attempted but failed to get any judicial ratification.
I think what it does represent.
Is the complete collapse of The Onion.
The Onion was a great parody satire site.
I remember being introduced to it from Madison, Wisconsin, where it started when I went to law school there in Madtown.
alex jones
And it used to be funny, it used to be good, and then it became ideological and got bought three years ago with Bloomberg funding by the MSNBC censorship czar.
Ben Collins.
robert barnes
Exactly.
I mean, this is all Bloomberg's obsession.
This is further affirmation that Bloomberg and his gun control freaks and the other lawfare nuts were behind this attack on your free speech and their efforts.
But it tells you where they're going, right?
Just as the efforts to censor you off Instagram and Facebook and X and YouTube and everywhere else was a sign of where they were going towards the president and towards the rest of us, they're going to use AI to try to usurp our identities.
To try to pretend to be us, to have a new level of freedom.
alex jones
Remember in their June 14th thing two years ago, they said the 13th Amendment doesn't apply to Alex Jones.
We own his name and likeness.
And of course, Elon had to come in and block that, not to even defend me, but to defend everybody.
robert barnes
And for those that don't remember, the 13th Amendment is what bans slavery and involuntary servitude and indentured servants.
So they were trying to say that they could make someone their personal slave because, don't worry, it's their AI version.
It's a fake version of them, even though they have.
They're operating under that person's name, that person's identity, that person's physical address, that person's internet address, that person's social media accounts.
I mean, it would be a blue check.
alex jones
By the way, I told Patrick Bang David that like four months ago in Miami.
He usually believes me.
He goes, that's not true.
His crew was so good.
See if you can do it.
His Bloomberg had a post of the filing because I was in the court when they said it.
And it said, the 13th Amendment does not apply to Alex Jones.
He's a special case.
We will own his name, likeness, and we will exactly.
I mean, this is like insane.
robert barnes
Not only that, they could get an injunction to prevent you from speaking on your own behalf in your own name.
That's where they were going.
That they had the exclusive right to your identity.
Take all this law that has developed about celebrities, that, you know, even their estates, like people like Elvis and others, Michael Jackson and others, they get to control their use even after that.
alex jones
And let's be clear, though, they do 360 agreements.
That's why Prince had to be, say, the artist formerly Prince.
I never did that.
robert barnes
Exactly.
But their goal was to get that right to exclude, effectively, completely censor you under the guise of enforcing their.
Trademark law because they would effectively own your identity, own your image, own your social media.
So if you tried to counteract that by sharing your actual viewpoints and from your own self, they would get a legal injunction to preclude it and prohibit it under the guise that it's a trademark brand injunction.
So, I mean, that's how nuts it was that, you know, they're trying to misapply this law.
And with the new emerging technology that allows them to create fake images of people in a very way that will fool most people, this is becoming increasingly dangerous.
And the Constitutional amendment that prohibits that is the 13th Amendment.
All forms of indentured servitude are precluded.
You cannot force somebody to speak on a certain behalf.
You cannot steal their identity.
alex jones
And you should have seen the judge when they got on the stand and they defended that filing.
He was just like, normally doesn't make any faces.
He was like, what?
He was like, what?
I mean, yeah, there it is.
robert barnes
It would have been one of the most precarious precedents ever set.
It's the ability of the government to not only censor you, but create a fake version of you and get buy in from the authentic.
Viewpoints.
I mean, at times you would think we got a simulated version of President Trump at the moment.
You know, that's how that can go.
These sort of fake versions could convert somebody and convert somebody's audience into thinking they're getting an honest opinion from that individual they've come to trust, not realizing that isn't their opinion.
alex jones
And here's an example let's say you're a famous music star, opera singer.
You die, you give your wife your estate, she gets in debt, and they grab it, and then now they have an avatar of you forever.
Like you can go to Vegas for years and have a 3D thing of Elvis dancing.
robert barnes
Oh, exactly.
I mean, and you could imagine other things too.
Have you saying things that are illegal?
Having you say things that can get you individually into difficult situations?
unidentified
Well, that's it.
alex jones
Once they take over your identity, which they're saying they're doing, they're going to say things they say in the New York Times in my name to discredit me.
They're admitting that.
Steal my identity to misrepresent me.
robert barnes
Correct.
To contaminate the audience, to breach the bridges of trust and confidence that have been built up over long periods of time, to allow the public to be miseducated about key facts and issues.
By being misdirected and misguided by this fake version of you that they don't know is a fake version of you that you can't contest because they literally own you.
Simulated Version Of You 00:03:47
robert barnes
I mean, that's what that was.
That was a 13th Amendment claim of ownership.
Except it was even worse because if somebody physically owned you, you could always try to resist.
How do you resist the AI fake version of you?
They don't know it's you, that that's not you.
So it was a new form of public ownership.
unidentified
Because that's the key.
alex jones
Like in body snatchers, they put the pod down to you, you die, the new one grows.
The body snatcher has to get rid of the real thing, the counterfeit has to get rid of the real thing.
robert barnes
That's exactly right.
I mean, it really is, you know, the movie where you take the glasses off and you realize they're aliens.
Their goal was to take away the glasses so that you wouldn't know that that was an alien version of Alex Jones talking to you, speaking to you, misleading you, misdirecting you.
You can imagine the psyops.
I mean, that coming down the line.
alex jones
Well, look at the whole Watts law firm, top Democrat, the top, involved in the Epstein cover up.
Trump did a $40 million settlement with them.
They're the ones that came up with this.
Who are they?
robert barnes
Well, I mean, you're talking about one of the most, yeah, Wall Street, deep state connected firms.
You look into these firms, you'll find.
Big overlaps between the military industrial complex, big Wall Street hedge funds, funds invested in foreign investments like in the UAE, in Saudi Arabia, in the Arab royals, in the European royals.
Indeed, you dig in and you'll find one long list that overlaps heavily with the Epstein list.
That's who these people are.
In fact, you can look it up.
There are people connected to Paul Weiss that are on the Epstein list.
So that are in the Epstein file.
alex jones
The Paul Weiss law firm in the news at Harvard and MIT covered up the Epstein cases.
robert barnes
Correct.
Exactly.
That's who these people are.
These are the Epstein files folks getting to try to control your public image and the public's access to your public viewpoints.
alex jones
Which tells them I'm not trying to brag.
Why are they so scared of my image?
Why are they obsessed for a decade?
robert barnes
I mean, this all started with the, you know, they thought that you were inconsequential or on the margins until you boosted President Trump from, you know, 3% in the primary polls to leading in the primaries.
So it's all started then.
That's when all of a sudden they realized you had far more consequence than they anticipated and understood.
And thus their objectives with World War III, their objectives with global economic collapse, their objectives with global pandemics, you know, two of the three we've witnessed some version of in the last 10 years.
Became at risk that people would be red pilled and white pilled away from the reality of what they were trying to create.
And from that point, beginning the summer of 2016, they realized they had to take you out.
They thought they took you out, they took the movement out.
And that became the goal and the objective to censor you.
I mean, they created a caricature version of you on TV shows like Homeland.
And there are people, I mean, you even met some of these people who really believed some of the nonsense that was in those shows.
The goal was to discredit you, destroy your reputation, try to shame and censor the audience, and then literally censor you by removing you from using the lawsuits.
People forget it was the lawsuits that they used as their pretext to remove all your channels from YouTube, to remove all your Instagram and Facebook and Twitter access, to try to block you from.
They were trying to block bank accounts from being able to process any payment in support of you, trying to block IPs.
From even being able to, for people being able to access your sites online.
They had, you know, 10 years ago.
alex jones
What are they going to do now that the understanding and awakening's proliferated and all these other hosts are just as bigger and bigger now?
And now Elon's basically is awake.
What are they going to do?
And I noticed as soon as I really came out against Trump three weeks ago, with the 25th Amendment, suddenly all the leftist groups started attacking in.
I believe he's made a deal to throw the midterms.
Sociopath Shot Deal 00:08:10
alex jones
He's not that stupid.
The numbers show it.
I believe he's made a deal with the deep state.
robert barnes
I think increasingly that what we're seeing is a Trump that is kind of like the simulated version they wanted to make of you.
This is not the Trump we've known.
This is not the Trump we've watched for 30 plus years.
He clearly has, in my view, early onset frontal lobe dementia.
And that's why you're seeing a guy who suddenly loses all empathy, increasingly apathetic, increasingly repetitive, has complete delusions of grandeur, has wishful thinking on a constant basis, thinks things that are true that are not.
Thinks that are not true, that are, is betraying his own base.
And what it is, is they've sort of worm tongued their way into a mentally deficient, mentally declining President Trump.
And what it is, is his form of mental decline doesn't show up principally in cognitive capacity like Joe Biden's did, or in memory loss like Reagan's did at the end of his term with early onset Alzheimer's, or like what Woodrow Wilson, when his wife ran the White House the last six months, his is emotional and psychological.
And so that's why, I mean, President Trump was notorious.
I mean, you know all the stories, Alex, for big tipper, would help people out quietly, anonymously all the time.
Now he's the guy who tells Marjorie Taylor Greene it's her fault if her son dies from a wrongful statement made by President Trump.
Now we see a President Trump who shrugs his shoulders about American shoulders dying, shrugs his shoulders about Americans dying, shrugs his shoulders about gas prices going through the roof.
alex jones
Well, you know, 20 years ago, they said the Pentagon had a shot to cure PTSD.
But really, it's a viral shot that attacks areas of the brain with empathy to actually make you not care anymore.
Quote, it would cure depression because you don't care anymore.
Basically, it's a sociopath shot.
How do we know they didn't put that in his drink?
Because they have it to be delivered that way.
robert barnes
Well, they don't have to do it through his drink.
They can do it through all the COVID booster shots he's been taking.
So remember, this is a guy who's been bragging about how he's taken every single COVID booster shot.
And who knows what else was in that shot?
All we know is since he took that shot about six months ago, there has been an acceleration of a decline.
You have from the Wall Street Journal confirming what I had already heard, but they confirmed it publicly.
So now I can talk about it.
The President of the United States was removed from the Situation Room, physically removed during the pilot down episode in Iran because of how nuts he was.
The Pentagon physically removed him from the room.
As Larry Johnson, longtime former CIA analyst, he's been on your show, still has a wide range of good, strong sources.
I know because he'll confirm stuff that I find directly, literally from the source.
And that this past week, President Trump wanted to play around with preparing a nuclear weapons use against Iran.
And General Kane said, No, we're not going to do that.
I'm going to exercise my Article 92 powers to do it.
alex jones
Let's just stop there and start over because we saw Trump in the last month say, Listen to Levin tonight.
Levin pushes dropping bombs like on Japan.
The other surrogates push it.
Israel starts pushing on their TV shows, drop nukes.
So we don't even need to believe sources.
We know that.
Then we learned last week the head of the Air Force stormed out of a meeting when Trump was wanting them to prepare nuclear weapons.
Let's explain that.
robert barnes
Exactly.
I mean, what we, two weeks ago, when we went into detail about the threat that the president was talking about using nuclear weapons, talking about ending their civilization, talking about a massive Nazi war style war.
alex jones
Ending them in one day.
That's nukes.
robert barnes
Absolutely.
I mean, we were all over the place.
You know, Scott Jennings over at CNN, Mitch's bitch, said he didn't understand what hat I was wearing.
Well, it's called a working man's hat.
We've been having it around for about 300 years.
If you knew a little working class history, he knew that.
But thank God that you went public, Tucker Carlson, others went public.
Public, it led JD Vance and others to step up and step in and stop him from doing that.
But now he's back to wanting to do it again.
And that's why you have the Pentagon is terrified of his mental state.
They are increasingly do not want to execute and are considering not acting out Trump's orders in the coming days because they recognize he has lost it mentally.
He makes up things that never happened, he claims things that did happen did not happen on a regular basis.
That's why you have him on this morning.
Talking to CNBC, saying he would have, that Vietnam War was no big problem.
He would have got it done in 30 days.
He would have got Iraq War done.
All of a sudden, all the wars were great.
He's all for the wars.
He just needed to be the one in charge of it because he would have won it in 30 days.
This is delusional thinking.
This is a sign of frontal lobe early onset dementia.
alex jones
And let's be clear 28 times he said the war is won, 10 times he said the strait was open.
He says, Israel, I order you not to attack.
Israel doubles attacks.
They make a fool out of him.
And then he turns around with a true social saying, Israel doesn't tell me what to do.
robert barnes
Yeah, I mean, look at this last Friday.
Look at all the seal clappers running around saying, Look, we've got a peace deal.
Iran has completely capitulated.
The strait is completely open.
None of that was true.
Vance had got a deal.
alex jones
Oh, they were like all over me.
Oh, you're disproven.
See, it worked.
And I said, It'll break within hours.
unidentified
And it did.
alex jones
I said, Israel attacked Lebanon.
They did.
Because Israel did.
Vance does.
robert barnes
I mean, I can tell you what happened.
Vance did have a deal.
It looked a lot like the JCPOA, but who cares?
Let's just get out of this thing at this point.
And told Trump he had a deal, and Trump convinced himself it was a completely different deal.
He convinced himself it was a capitulation deal when it wasn't.
The deal was they would give up the enrichment for a period of time and they would reduce their current enriched materials to 20% or less.
That was the end.
And they would keep the Straits of Hormuz, and we would give them sanctions relief, and there would be complete cessation of hostilities, and we would codify this into a treaty before Congress and a proposal to the UN Security Council.
The Vance tells Trump this.
Trump begins to convince himself that they signed a capitulation deal instead.
You know, he fantasizes this.
He takes wishful thinking, possibly.
alex jones
He said, he said, he said Friday, they've given up everything.
And they're like, that's not true.
robert barnes
None of it was true.
But he really believed it.
That's why he was calling people up talking about it.
That's why he's telling Maria on Sunday, oh, we already have the deal.
We just have to finalize it.
Vance is still in D.C. We're not even there.
alex jones
How many times can he say the straight is open before the stock market doesn't listen?
robert barnes
Well, I think part of it is motivated by the stock and equity and oil markets, but part of it is his delusional thinking.
They've been asking him, quit going to truth to talk about this.
And he'll agree, it would be okay, I won't do it.
And then he goes and does it again.
They'll ask him, do not call up reporters and talk about this.
alex jones
And he's posting My Way videos and Slipknot videos.
robert barnes
And him as a Roman emperor?
A Roman emperor?
I mean, the guy is completely lost.
alex jones
And don't forget Jesus.
robert barnes
Well, exactly.
He's Jesus, but with a ball behind him.
He had the demon ball behind him in that Jesus image.
So, I mean, he's literally losing it.
And nobody, once people started telling me this three months ago, we started talking about it offline several weeks ago when it became clear this was happening.
That's when we put out the warning, Paul Revere warning sign.
And people better keep doing it because he will use nuclear weapons.
He will create a massive war crime.
And if he does that, Iran will take out all the Gulf oil and infrastructure, and we're screwed for 10 years.
We got a global depression, not a global recession.
We got a total global recession.
alex jones
By the way, Iran says they're getting ready if things don't work out to bring out their real weapons.
You think that's a bluff?
robert barnes
Oh, no, no, not at all.
Not with Trump, nor on Iran.
If Iran goes down, the whole world goes down.
That's where their mindset is.
So, you know, Advance has been doing everything possible to avoid this disaster, but President Trump keeps wanting to jump right off the cliff.
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alex jones
We'll be right back with Robert Barnes talking more about this.
Stay with us and Charlie Kirk, the new bombshell information.
Stay with us.
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If you've got one that's better, you said you've taken it before.
Did you feel the same thing with the other Bethlehem blood?
jp sears
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Have a perceptible difference.
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alex jones
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So you're saying you've taken, we didn't talk about this beforehand.
I would just ask you.
You've taken others before, though, did not feel like this.
jp sears
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jp sears
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Now, one of those sources has summoned the governor.
Alex Jones says he knows how they plan to depopulate.
Alex, you sounded urgent.
alex jones
There's an entire agenda afoot to force the population to undergo different types of medical treatments, namely vaccines.
We're seeing a medical tyranny being set up, not just in the United States, but worldwide under the UN and the world.
Health organization.
unidentified
Who's behind all this?
alex jones
The Bilderberg group.
They want a planetary dictatorship so they can carry out their forced depopulation agenda.
And they want to do it through the medical system.
And that's why vaccines are so important.
We know that many of these vaccines turn out to have serious adverse reactions.
That this is being done by design.
They kill you slowly over time.
That's why they're called soft kill.
And I've got an insider I think you should really talk to Dr. Rima Labo.
But she doesn't live inside the United States because she's so concerned about all the police state developments that are taking place.
But if you can get her to come up here and talk to you, she's a medical doctor, she's treated heads of states, and she really understands what's happening on the inside.
unidentified
Dr. Libo, how are you?
I'm fine.
Thank you, Governor.
I'm Jesse Ventura.
Thanks for coming.
Now, you've left the United States of America.
rima laibow
Yes, sir, I have.
unidentified
Why?
rima laibow
I do not feel safe living in the United States.
unidentified
Really?
Do you want to come in and sit down?
rima laibow
No, sir.
I'd rather not.
unidentified
You'd rather just be here so you can make a fast exit?
rima laibow
As soon as you and I finish, I'm leaving the country again.
unidentified
Why?
rima laibow
Because in a very short time, not today, not tomorrow, but very soon, we'll be facing compulsory vaccination under the mistaken term of voluntary vaccination.
unidentified
Are you talking to me now about the current swine flu?
I am.
Now, what is it about these vaccinations?
You think that they're bad?
rima laibow
Well, first of all, let's start with the fact that the World Health Organization.
Has decided that we have 90% too many people.
The World Health Organization has been working since 1974 on vaccines to create permanent sterility.
unidentified
Doctor, the response is going to be, and you're crazy.
How can you say this stuff?
rima laibow
I show them the documentation.
unidentified
Now, this is pretty shocking.
rima laibow
This process has already been ongoing.
To make matters worse, we know that the vaccines that were illegally approved by the FDA contain a substance called squalene.
unidentified
Squalene, an organic compound used in vaccines to stimulate the immune system and increase the response.
rima laibow
If I inject you with squalene, your immune system will attack the squalene, but then it starts attacking.
All of the parts of your body.
What does that look like when you meet a person to whom that is happening?
It looks like Gulf War syndrome.
It looks like every joint in the body swollen and intolerably painful and immobilized.
alex jones
Again, she was told by insiders they were going to do it that way give you a shot, erase your immune system, then hit with another weapon.
I wanted to play that clip from 2009 just to show you we know what we're talking about.
Back to Robert Barnes, constitutional lawyer, historian, former Trump lawyer, totally dialed into the inside.
Let's go back and spend some time on this.
From your sources, because we know they're pushing nuclear war.
Trump's been pushing it, total destruction of society, the mouthpieces of Israel saying use nukes, which would instantly turn the world totally against us and cause a world depression.
It wouldn't make Iran give up.
Totally crazy.
It would turn us into instant war criminals.
Get into the chairman of the Joint Chiefs from your information saying no to nukes.
Why did they have the Air Force storm out?
That was in mainstream media.
What is going on, Robert Barnes?
robert barnes
So essentially, Trump is delusional and routinely imagines and fantasizes things that aren't happening.
Pretends that he can do things or we can do things that we can't do, pretends the Iran has agreed to things they never have agreed to, goes public with this, and that sabotages ongoing peace talks.
That's why the peace talks haven't happened.
He did the blockade, even though he was advised not to do the blockade, because the problem with the blockade is one, most of the ships are going to get through because we have to stay so far away from the shore that we don't get hit by Iranian missiles or drones, either the ones from the air or the water.
That means there's, and we don't, it's not a big enough, we don't have enough ships out there to have a meaningfully effective blockade.
So most of the Iranian ships have been getting through the blockade.
Then, if we decide to stop one and we're able to stop one, then we got a second problem on our hands, which is China has made clear they will not accept that.
And if it continues, they're going to start sending their subs and frigates out to meet us.
And then we've got the possibility of World War III.
China has long been wanting to test out whether they're going to stop it.
alex jones
We're talking a Cuban Missile Crisis confrontation.
robert barnes
Exactly, on steroids.
And we, by the way, we have a risk of a Cuban missile, Cuban confrontation crisis as well.
Russia continues to send its ships right through our blockade of Cuba.
And so we've got an issue there too.
So we've got the Ukraine using their drones to take out Russian troops.
alex jones
Last week didn't get much attention.
The Russians, literally, our ships try to block them.
The Russians don't stop and our ships move.
So they're not blinking.
unidentified
No, not at all.
robert barnes
And so everybody in the world is tired of Trump's insanity, and more people can see it than Trump's own base.
Even though Trump's own base should be the first to be alert to it.
Trump becoming unsympathetic, Trump becoming a warmonger, Trump becoming, let's conquer the world, Trump saying Mark Levin is God's gift to humanity, Trump hanging out in the Straight or Hormuz, Trump straight.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, I mean, well, you saw he's literally building a 50 foot gold statue to himself in the Trump library that is modeled after the North Korean dictator.
I mean, this is not normal, folks.
The reason why we're seeing a Trump that a lot of people think has betrayed him is because we're seeing just a different Trump.
This is a mentally declined Trump who is being exploited by the Lord.
alex jones
And the first one, thousands of pieces of gold apparel and artwork.
It's like so gaudy, it's like a joke.
And the White House is literally just like gold everywhere.
robert barnes
He's becoming the caricature of himself.
And it's because his mental capacity is rapidly degenerating and declining.
That's why his empathy is no longer present.
Apathy is increasingly present.
His delusional thinking is off the charts.
And the problem is that he thinks he can do things that he can't do.
And that he thinks other things that he could do won't have blowback.
That's why he convinced himself that there wouldn't be any blowback from attacking Iran.
Now he's convinced himself, like, take the use of nuclear weapons.
alex jones
Aside from the moral world, start over with your intel and what is admitted.
Go back to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs saying no to nuclear weapons.
Let's flesh that out.
Give us more intel.
robert barnes
So, over the last two weeks, first, Trump was removed from the Situation Room when the pilot went down.
There's some talk that it was really a special op that went bad.
But he was literally physically removed, the President of the United States, from the Situation Room and told not to be present when they made every critical military decision.
How did that work?
alex jones
I mean, they're like, they admitted he was living there.
So, what did they say?
How did they tell him to get out?
robert barnes
They said, We need you out now.
And he left.
And he actually did leave.
And so the concern is what happens if he says, No, I'm not leaving.
Or he starts firing everybody.
He starts firing the Pentagon.
Correct.
Well, that's the thing.
The Pentagon was so concerned about his declining mental state.
They started to figure this.
I was told this three months ago that people close to the White House.
alex jones
He was saying it on there three months ago.
robert barnes
Correct.
That he was starting to lose it, that he would lose his temper at a drop of a.
He would lose his temper over nothing.
Trump's always had a quick fuse.
But now he's losing his temper over nothing.
Anybody that's been around somebody suffering early onset dementia would see the signs.
And when I started talking about it, some people who have been around that said, here's what you're describing.
And then I started using it as a predictive filter and it became very explanatory.
But the second time it really got bad was when he was in a situation room, he'd start screaming at everybody.
He would start saying, hey, let's do this or this, things that were delusional to do.
They're like, we can't get this done if you stay here, Mr. President, please leave.
And so he left.
Then last weekend, He calls everybody in after he tells everybody on Friday that we have a peace deal.
He actually blows up the peace deal by announcing terms that were not agreed to, that antagonize Iran.
Then he comes in, he goes, Okay, well, let's hit him.
He brings everybody in.
He says, Hey, let's practice using nukes.
I want to practice using the nuclear codes.
And General Kane says, No, we're not going to do that.
We're not going to go down that path.
That's why Kane's head is down when he's leaving the White House.
He was like, Oh my God, this is getting off the charts insane because it's dilute.
You know, Biden's cognitive limitations were less of a risk.
Because it wasn't accompanied by delusions of grandeur and wishful thinking.
That's what Trump is suffering from on a regular basis.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
alex jones
Trump's really been the president.
He's always in charge looking at everything.
So if he's breaking down, he's still involved in everything.
But with Biden, he was just milling around the whole time with a whole other shadow government, which was bad enough, but that's better than having a person with dementia in charge.
robert barnes
Exactly.
Someone who really believes a bunch of things that are just not true.
Things he can do, things that are just not true.
It's so, you know, he's now been told no twice in two weeks by his own General Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Kane.
That's a guy he handpicked.
He said, no, you've got to stay out of this.
That's twice.
And I had heard these stories coming out ahead of time.
Vice President Vance alternates between crying and laughing.
Because of how insane it all is.
alex jones
And let me just mess you up.
I talked to multiple individuals, formerly Army Special Operations, let's just leave it at that, who called me this weekend.
They said, You're dead on.
He's out of his mind.
And already at CENTCOM and Army Special Operations in Florida, they're already going down even to mid level people and saying, Hey, get ready for a big problem.
And again, the Democrats a year ago were like, Don't follow his orders to round up illegals.
That's all constitutional.
We're like, Hey, that's Bull.
That's the programming for the movie Civil War.
They wanted their own coup.
But it kind of foreshadowed it because now it's nuclear war.
Now it's real.
robert barnes
Exactly.
And so you've got big risk number one is nuclear war.
Big risk number two is that he does try to bomb all the bridges and power plants.
Iran will respond by taking out all the civilian infrastructure and oil and energy of the Middle East, potentially could take out the desalination plants, which means you'd have a massive refugee crisis because they can't survive without air conditioning and 125 degree heat in the Arab summer.
And they can't survive without desalination plants.
alex jones
Not to mention a war crime.
robert barnes
Oh, massive war crime.
I mean, you got those problems.
Like, if he uses, here's one of the biggest problems using nuclear weapons.
If you look at where the air tear, you know, Professor Robert Pape has gone through great detail.
Other professor, Professor Postal from MIT, the same thing.
All the nuclear in the air, all the radioactive air would go into the Arab Gulf.
You'd have half a billion Muslims at major risk.
I mean, you're talking about the refugee crisis of all refugee crises.
alex jones
And now, as the war games predicted, Pakistan's threatening nuclear weapons.
unidentified
Correct.
robert barnes
Pakistan has said if nuclear weapons are used against Iran, they will use nuclear weapons themselves.
And so you could have a whole, you got a nuclear holocaust.
So that's risk number one.
Risk number two is you just try to take out all their infrastructure, and they take out all of our infrastructure, all the Gulf infrastructure.
And all of a sudden, we have a global economic catastrophe on our hands.
You're talking about a third of the oil and gas offline, potentially for years, not just weeks or months, but for years.
Because of how long it would take to get it back online.
You're talking about a third of the world's fertilizer offline for years.
You're talking about a third of the world's helium that goes into making semiconductor chips offline for years.
That's an economic catastrophe when people that have modeled it out said it would be a global depression for at least two years.
alex jones
So let me stop you there.
Even if the war ended today, it's baked in that it kills the recovery, but it only gets worse.
You mentioned this, and I'd love to show something we mention it.
Here he is today calling into a TV program, it was at CNBC, saying, Oh, I would end Vietnam in a few weeks because look what did Venezuela.
Snatching a leader, making a behind the scenes deal with them to make a deal with us is totally different than Vietnam when we had up to 600,000 soldiers there, 15 years there, 10 years official, 7.3 million bombs dropped.
You've hit Iran with 20,000 bombs.
Again, it shows he doesn't have military understanding.
To say that Iran or Vietnam is as easy as Venezuela is cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs.
Here's the club.
donald j trump
And when it's over, and it will end, when it's over, you know, they want it to be over immediately.
And I just looked at a little chart World War I, four years and three months.
World War II, six years.
Korean War, three years.
Vietnam, 19 years.
Iraq, eight years.
I'm five months.
Okay.
Five months.
I would have won Vietnam very quickly.
I would have, if I were president, I would have won Iraq.
alex jones
Listen to the delusion, folks.
No, Trump, we're not two months in yet.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
We're 53 days in.
That's not even two months, bro.
Now he says we're five months in.
I mean, play it again.
donald j trump
Vietnam, 19 years.
Iraq, eight years.
I'm five months.
Okay.
Five months.
I would have won Vietnam.
Very quickly.
I would have, if I were president, I would have won Iraq in the same amount of time that we won because essentially we've won here.
unidentified
Okay.
donald j trump
I mean, people can play games.
The Democrats can say, well, we should have done better no matter what.
If I did it in one week, they should have said, they'd say, we should have done better.
Trump Loses Clarity 00:09:03
donald j trump
Look at Venezuela.
I took it over in 45 minutes.
It was basically a 45 minute.
By the way, a very strong military country.
And we took it over in a day, but let's be nice.
But we basically took it over in 45 minutes.
We took it over during the attack in 45 minutes.
alex jones
Let me inform Trump of something.
Trump, the Germans paid off the French command, bought off about 85% of their generals, so only 10 or 50% of the French fought, and it still took the Nazis a month to kick out the people that fought and then kick out the British expeditionary force at Dunkirk.
So actually, study this for you, okay?
Yes, no, the CIA and the Pentagon bought off the Venezuelans.
The blockade worked, so they rolled over because they left the communist.
Vice president in and made a deal with them to let their dictatorship continue.
That was because they calculated that, yes, we could take them.
That was a completely different enchilada because the communists were unpopular there.
Not the case in Iran.
You want to explain to the president, Bob?
robert barnes
Yeah, I mean, there's absolutely no comparison.
And some of us warn the vice president directly that the great risk of Venezuela going the way it did, given what people were describing as President Trump's declining mental and emotional state, he lacks emotion.
So you'll see him, he'll talk very articulately.
That's not his problem.
His problem is delusional thinking and lack of emotional self control and declining empathy.
He's convincing himself he's a Roman emperor.
I mean, that's the mind.
This is not something that everybody wants.
alex jones
I mean, when Hitler had Iron Cross first class and second class, it was like an Audie Murphy hero, but he still lost the war because he ordered generals around.
Trump has no understanding of saying he's the greatest generals ever lived.
robert barnes
Oh, no doubt about that at all.
I mean, when he is really convincing himself of the true delusions of grandeur, you convince yourself that these things are true that are just patently false.
And it's a warning sign to everybody around him.
Okay, he no longer has objective clarity.
So he can't make good decision making.
He will not make good decisions.
What we said two weeks ago is absolutely the truth.
Trump needs to be removed from decision making authority.
And you don't have to go like full 25th Amendment or the rest.
You can just start to ignore him.
Do your own thing.
alex jones
But with the war powers, Congress using its power over the parts to declare war, it only fell by one vote.
Isn't that a mechanism?
robert barnes
Well, in fact, several members of the House, Republican members, Nancy Mace, Lauren Bobert, Congressman Davidson from Ohio, Had agreed not to vote against, vote for immediate removal from Iran because they understood that Vance was about to get a deal.
Vance did get that deal, but then Trump blew it up.
So the next time it comes up for a vote in the House, they will say, get out of Iran now.
And then, if by June, Collins has said she'll be off.
Murkowski says she'll be off.
Curtis has said he'll be off.
So the Senate will also vote that we have to be out by actually by May.
So basically, he's got 10 days to get this done until the House and the Senate say you have no authority to go forward.
Now, under Article 92, the generals can ignore any illegal order.
In order to use nuclear weapons, it would be an unlawful order.
In order to attack civilian infrastructure like bridges and electricity, it would be an unlawful order.
Their legal obligation is to do it.
unidentified
I agree.
alex jones
So, why is Israel publicly pushing him to do it?
I guess they just want to roll the dice and commit us to full war and then use the ensuing insanity for Trump to do a counter coup against the constabulary and then set up an Israeli controlled dictatorship?
robert barnes
Well, the other people you have that are just crazy for other reasons they're not crazy because they're in mental decline, they're crazy because they are morally depraved and have an exaggerated understanding of their power.
Megalomania.
Is Israel and the UAE.
For Bibi Netanyahu, if the war is not ongoing by October, he loses the election, goes to trial, spends the rest of his life in prison for corruption.
So for him, his only chance to avoid prison for life is to have the war still ongoing by October.
unidentified
Exactly.
robert barnes
For the Emiratis, they grew up playing Call of Duty games.
These guys are crazy.
They're delusional.
Now you see Trump talking about bailing them out publicly, saying he'll provide whatever currency swap lines they want, any kind of economic return.
That's because the UAE.
Is deeply tied in to corrupting the entire Trump family.
Don Jr., Eric Trump, Jared Kushner, Steve Witkoff all have deals of different kinds with the Emiratis.
And so they basically bought off the president of the United States.
So they can just do that.
alex jones
And then I want to bring up Melania.
What is your intel?
I just looked at the facts.
He attacks me and a bunch of others two weeks ago, an hour after that happened.
She comes out.
He said he didn't know she was going to do it and says, I'm not with Epstein.
I'm not part of this.
She knows the Ludden cover up all of it.
That looked to me like Melinda Gates breaking with Bill Gates.
robert barnes
That's exactly what it was.
I mean, because she completely blindsided the White House.
They had no idea she was going to make that statement.
They knew a statement was coming, but not the content of it.
And then she completely rebuts the president.
She says these victims should be granted full immunity and allowed to testify in front of Congress.
So, which is not what the president wants, not what Lutnick wants, not what some other people in the current guy up for Fed chair, Warsh, he's in the Epstein files.
So, that's not what that guy wants.
So, the, and notice, Remember, she was really close to him almost every other day.
You'd see a photo of her and Trump.
Now you haven't seen any such image of that since that statement.
alex jones
Over two weeks.
robert barnes
So, I mean, think about it.
Who would know better than anyone else whether the president is suffering a mental decline?
It would be his wife, it would be Melania.
alex jones
I'm told by people very close that she'd, quote, detest him now.
unidentified
Yeah.
robert barnes
And it's a combination of fear and concern for where the country is going.
And the trigger, from what I heard, was the Easter event.
When you had Trump standing next to a guy in a bunny outfit in front of a bunch of kids and started ranting about war.
That's when she realized he was just gone.
He was just lost.
He's like the king from Lord of the Rings with Wormtongue whispering in his ear, who's mentally declining and doing all these insane things that are against his core character.
That's what Trump has become.
This is not the Trump we know, but this is a different Trump because literally mentally it's a different Trump.
alex jones
So what do we do?
robert barnes
And she's trying to warn everybody.
I mean, that's what she's really doing, she's trying to warn everybody in the most Diplomatic way she can.
The General Kane is trying to warn people.
The people that warned me to warn people were trying to warn people.
So people just don't want to pay attention.
They don't want to connect to the situation, it's really bad and it's getting really, really worse.
And they've just got to start to ignore the president, is the bottom line.
alex jones
Yeah, what do you make of all these white pillar influencers attacking all of us delusional?
Like you said, seal clapping last week every time he says we won the war and then the next day it isn't.
I mean, what's wrong with these people?
robert barnes
It's people that are so personally invested in Trump that have taken so many sacrifices for Trump that they would rather believe the most insane version of events in favor of Trump than recognize that all of their capital that they've invested personally, professionally, and politically in Trump has turned sour.
alex jones
They, you know, that's it's like anybody's talking about not saying, Hey, we got some good out of him before grandpa's gone crazy.
They just can't bring themselves to that.
In fact, I got a bunch of text messages and, you know, or stuff on X, they're like, You're following ideology over loyalty.
Well, you better believe I am.
I mean, I stand for something.
When Trump's doing the right thing, I'm for him.
Yeah, you bet.
Loyalty to somebody that's not loyal to our mission, they don't even hear what they're saying.
robert barnes
Well, it's very much like the remember what the first response to any public trauma is it's denial.
That's the most because that's psychologically built in.
So, what we're seeing with a lot of these people that are attacking us right now, I understand why.
I even empathize with them.
They're people that are going through the denial stage of trauma.
Recognizing that grandpa has lost it.
And that puts us all, I don't even judge Trump for it.
alex jones
Then they'll start bargaining, then they'll go into grief.
robert barnes
Correct.
That's exactly right.
That's the stage you'll see core Trump supporters take.
The ones that are the most attuned and they're the most committed to ideas, like yourself, like Tucker Carlson, like Marjorie Taylor Greene, like Thomas Massey, they'll come to terms with it much quicker and much easier.
But for the people that went down, especially for people who had given up on American politics, had said, you know what, doesn't matter who I vote for, we get John McCain.
They're all a bunch of liars and cheaters and thievers and deceivers.
So I might as well give up.
And then Trump finally convinces them don't give up.
Get involved in the game.
Get invested.
To see Trump turn sour is very bitter.
alex jones
And that's another reason they're lightweights.
They're not really politically savvy.
robert barnes
Right.
Oh, yeah, correct.
The wise people are people that just want to believe and their desire to want to believe Trump's what he's saying.
alex jones
So how do you reach those people?
Because I really care about them too.
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alex jones
But I mean, you know, they literally say, I'm getting money from the TAR.
No, I'm not.
Trump's completely out of control.
robert barnes
Correct.
Well, one, we've got to call it like it is.
Recognize that when grandpa has lost it, you've got to take the keys away.
As much as you want to help grandpa, you can't let him drive the car.
That's step one.
And then step two, support the people that are really sticking.
People like Thomas Massey's got a big house race.
Get Lady Lindsey Graham out by supporting Mark Lynch in South Carolina.
Some of these big, big races where we can.
alex jones
We got Vidra Boot from Russia joining us, but do five more.
I want you to plug your show.
We'll do it right now.
We'll do it after a few final comments.
But how do people find your great work?
robert barnes
Oh, that's at viva barnslaw.locals.com.
alex jones
And they can find you on X. We'll put that back on screen.
Just type in Robert Barnes.
You can't miss it.
Back in two minutes, a few more minutes with Barnes, and then Victor Boot.
Stay with us.
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20 minutes later.
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Barnes underscore law, not a smarter guy in law and history than him.
Because I know my stuff.
He teaches me stuff all the time.
We're out of time here, but I want to recap that everything the Wall Street Journal and in the past they had to lie about Trump because I know the issues.
99% was lies.
Now, Trump's all over the map every day telling different stories five or six times.
They reported what I was told.
Barnes started getting this three months ago.
He's got a lot of sources, some of the same ones, because they're scared to go public.
They give it to me.
And I had Charlie Kirk calling me up before he got killed saying, expose Epstein, expose Iran.
They want to go full war.
The text messages are public and statements, you know, that happened.
But I got people, you know, up there telling me, hey, don't go bad on Wiles.
She's trying to stop him going to full war with Iran.
Now she's publicly doing it, saying challenge Trump.
Not that she's perfect.
She just wants to make money, a lobbyist, basically.
You know, Bondi's out, so they put somebody even worse in.
Todd Blanch.
But it's confirmed they threw Trump out of the situation room.
Notice he hasn't challenged that in a week since that came out.
AOL, New York Times, Washington Post.
That happened because he's just yelling and screaming and freaking out and in there constantly because he does care.
But he's like a little kid.
And so it's just absolutely amazing to watch all of this.
But going back to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who's not some shrinking violet, he's not some dove, or neither is Eric Prince saying this war was a terrible idea, or the Pentagon's own assessment, and Israel lying to Trump, which is all confirmed.
But Trump coming and saying, ready the nuclear weapons, prepare them, load them, give me the strike profiles, and because some of that came out, but give your inside baseball more on that.
So, we can add it to the report because that is so important from your intel exactly what happened.
robert barnes
Yeah, Mark Levin was encouraging the president to use nuclear weapons in Iran as the ultimate solution.
And so, this past weekend, he asked General Kane to bring him the profile of practicing using the nuclear codes, how he would use them to strike Iran, where they would strike in Iran, what the options and choices were to strike in Iran.
And he wanted that as part of the discussion in the Situation Room this past weekend.
And General Kane, exercising his duties and obligations under Article 92 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, Which says you cannot obey an unlawful order, knew the use of nuclear weapons would be an unlawful order, knew the president made public statements about wanting to destroy the entire civilization of Iran, providing genocidal intent, which would make that order unlawful as well, both under our statutes and under our Constitution and under the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
Instructed the president, you can't, no, we're not going to go there.
I'm not going to give you that profile.
We're not going to go through the code discussion.
We're not going to go.
We're not going to practice the nuclear menu.
unidentified
That's right.
alex jones
He called for the nuclear menu, and Newsweek says no evidence of that.
We had all the surrogates and Trump saying it and saying, I'll destroy you in one day.
Then he backed off and said on True Social, okay, I won't use nukes.
And then the stock market went back up and oil went down.
And now he was back at it.
What is your intel that that really happened?
robert barnes
That is absolutely what really happened.
Larry Johnson has some of the best sources in the country.
Larry Johnson's a longtime former XCIA analyst.
Just go back and look what he'd been talking about this war.
He, I mean, he was telling us things were going sideways before we knew about the war.
alex jones
He predicted everything as it happened.
robert barnes
Absolutely.
Talked about.
There are various places getting hit before it was public knowledge, certain planes getting hit before it was public knowledge, certain disasters in Western Iran when we had the pilot recovery disclosed a lot of that information.
So he's been ahead of the curve.
It's also completely consistent with what has been happening over the last three months and what just happened two weeks ago.
When he was talking about what happened in the Situation Room, people were like, oh no, a couple of weeks ago.
Now the Wall Street Journal confirms it.
Now the AP confirms it.
Now a whole bunch of sources confirm it.
So, this has been happening on a regular basis.
alex jones
Yeah, Trump is asking for the nuclear strike menus.
robert barnes
That's exactly right.
And again, folks, just go to what Mark Levin was talking about two days before that.
He was saying, look at how we use nuclear weapons against Japan.
So, I mean, he was promoting it.
alex jones
And Trump said, tune in tonight to hear what I'm thinking.
All right.
People can find your show, all your great work.
Barnes, thank you so much.
I want you on the last day.
We're on air, the 30th.
Promise me you'll lock that down.
In fact, I want to end the broadcast with you.
I'm going to go late into the night.
Thank you so much.
God bless you.
And let's try to fix this.
unidentified
Absolutely.
Glad to be here, Alex.
alex jones
This interview is sure to go viral like the one two weeks ago.
Let's get it out, folks.
You're the Paul Revere's.
We're handing in the ball.
Victor Boot from Russia, military expert, geopolitical analyst.
Stay with us.
We'll be right back.
So, Victor Boot's been joining us once a week, and I really appreciate it.
He was on last week with our guest host, Matt Bracken, but he was on the meet two weeks ago and said his intel was the U.S. was preparing strike options for nuclear weapons.
We've now confirmed that Trump has been asking the Chairman and Joint Chiefs of Staff for strike options for nuclear weapons in Iran.
And I can tell you that down even into Central Command and into Army Special Operations, they are now openly, and these are loyal Americans, not leftists, about what are we going to do with Trump?
He's gone insane.
So I'm very upset about this.
I have to report the truth to you.
We see Trump on a daily basis.
We've won the war 28 times, 10 times the strait is open.
Israel attacks Lebanon to keep us in the war.
He says, Israel, I control you.
You're ordered not to do it.
They double the attacks below 34,000.
Christian homes, tanks driving around, just mowing down, blowing up churches, pulling down statues of Jesus, smashing them.
I mean, Israel is just trying to be as provocative.
Israel's putting videos out of them doing this.
Israel says, we're going to go after turkey necks.
And I mean, just mad dog craze.
So we know Trump's got frontal lobe dementia.
That's what all the signs fit.
But what does Israel have?
I mean, this is megalomania.
Iran says, if it's not over in two weeks, they've got.
New cards for the battlefield, a bunch of weapons they haven't used.
All my analysis says they have got a bunch of stuff they've got up their sleeve, and they've proven they can close the straight as long as they want.
So, Victor Boot is a high level elected official of a regional government in Russia, former famous businessman, soldier, and really geopolitical analyst and expert.
I call him kind of the Eric Prince Russian version.
Eric Prince, by the way, here, founder of Blackwater, was totally against this war, predicted everything would happen.
He spent 10 years in the infamous CMU unit, United States Penitentiary in Marion, as a political prisoner.
In December 2022, he was exchanged in the prisoner swap with Brittany Griner.
He is now deputy in the region, and we'll get into all that.
Real Victor Boot.
He just launched a few weeks ago on X. Real Victor Boot, B O U T, on X.
So it's great to have him here with us.
But obviously, things are deteriorating quickly.
The Wall Street Journal reports, and I have sources already said this, so I can tell you it's accurate.
That Trump is beside himself being trapped in this war, but just basically gyrates between thinking everything's going to be okay to not knowing what to do, and that Israel's got basically full control of his brain.
And then we've got major articles that tie into this.
Talk about the end of the First Amendment.
The U.S. government has announced anyone that criticizes Israel in any way, and even the war, will be banned from entering the United States for the World Cup and then other events.
Now, translate that.
It means NSA technology, not just Palantir, there's a whole scope of it.
Is watching everything you say.
And if you criticize this war, we're going to get you.
The ADL called for this a month ago.
So this is a whole new level of tyranny.
So, Victor Booth, thank you for joining us.
I always end up asking the questions, but you've got a lot of points you'd like to make.
Would you like to start with an update on the war?
Both, it's all part of the same war globally, a new world war, call it what you want.
In Iran, where that's going, how it ties into Ukraine.
What's happening there, and just any other angles or ideas of how to diffuse this situation?
Victor Boot, thanks for joining us.
unidentified
Hi, Alex.
viktor bout
Well, you're absolutely right.
It's getting every time more crazier and crazier.
You can't even give a proper name, how to even name it.
It's really out of the old limits.
It's craziness, whether it's dementia, whether it's a global plan to really do the new reset.
But definitely, it doesn't go very well for everybody.
First of all, Apart from we are in the age when this, you know, truce will expire several hours, and we're expecting what would be the next decision made by Trump.
Basically, he has three choices whether he's gonna again attack Iran, you know, bomb it, but it definitely will not bring anything new.
It would be the same result.
Regime and Iranian people are rooting for their own independence.
It would be impossible to do anything with them unless.
They decide to launch the ground operation, which is a, you know, I doubt that Trump has the guts to go for the ground operation, especially after that disastrous attempt to go and dig for the enriched uranium near Isfahan.
And the third one, which would be no war, no peace situation, which is again, you know, he will manipulate the stock market, making every time, you know, additional half a billion dollars, one billion dollars, because somebody having inside information.
Either they're going to predict that the price of oil will go up or will go down or something on that matter.
But what is I have just recently, about half an hour ago, it's a very interesting update.
Finally, Iranians, maybe for the first time, telling that, hey, if the United States attack us again, we will be ready to shift the military action on US soil.
Think of this.
And that was not just rumors.
Apparently, I can even tell the name who said this.
This is a deputy of their parliamentary commission for national security, Abbas Mokhtadi, sorry, Mokhtadi, who actually says if they're threatening to us, well, this is a direct word.
Now they won't again come to us and attack us.
We don't want war, but if they attack us, what?
We have to sit and do nothing.
So this will lead to a situation where there would be our response on the streets of the United States.
And Trump must know that.
So, do Iran have the missiles which can reach the United States?
Well, maybe not yet, but they definitely have enough drones.
And think of this there is a bunch of the ships in the Atlantic or Pacific, which can be a perfect launch basis because one container opens up and there is a swarm of the drones which goes and definitely starts inflicting the damage to the United States.
Not even a critical one, it's just political.
alex jones
Let's look at the Sharan statement that we got a lot of cards we haven't played yet.
viktor bout
Correct.
That's exactly.
And this is one of these confirming.
And look, in this situation, Iranians have been playing very responsibly, especially we know what's happening with this negotiation in Islamabad.
Apparently, GD Vance was not allowed to go.
Kushner and Witkov, so called negotiators, are still in Washington.
So basically, again, eventually, Trump used this as a pretext to just continue the war.
If they've been negotiating in the good faith, We don't know yet.
There is not much leaks going from the American side.
But one thing is very clear that we are very, very far from a peaceful resolution.
And the situation is really, as you said, maybe half an inch now from going into the nuclear stage.
alex jones
You hit my key question, but only from an angle.
I want you to get into it deeper, Victor.
Clearly, Trump is a different Trump.
He's all over the place.
He's saying things that are wrong constantly.
He said the war has been going five months just today, just all sorts of things.
Clearly, he's degraded, but that's what my point was.
Israel's not degraded and is stoking all of this, even though every outcome is horrible, even for them down the road.
I know because Netanyahu by October will be in prison if he doesn't stoke this war.
So we know his motive and then some of his controllers.
But either way you slice it, it is insane.
I mean, even if someone has full mental capacity, it's still not even rolling dice here.
This is not in well.
It's been proven as the Pentagon, everybody else told Trump.
Now he's mad at everybody.
Now they had to throw him out of the situation room.
I've confirmed that.
And they just told him, please go.
And he did finally listen because he's yelling and screaming constantly.
And I've confirmed this for months.
It's getting worse.
And so I'm just wondering how far this goes.
But what about the mindset of Israel?
What is wrong with them?
viktor bout
Well, it's difficult to say.
It's definitely something on a fanatical level where it's more now, you know, going to these religious zealots who decided their chance.
We know there is a, you know, cause for this.
Messiah to appear very soon, that they are, you know, soldiers openly wearing a great Israel, you know, insignia, telling, oh, this is time from, you know, one river to Euphrates River and so on.
alex jones
So basically, you got the red herring and you got the third temple, and Trump's going to read about the third temple tomorrow.
No, tonight.
Did you hear he's going to read about the building of the temple tonight on TV?
viktor bout
Yeah, correct.
And look, it's not only this, they're looking for pretexts.
How to destroy the Ayaksa moks?
You know, they are talking openly about the completely demonstration of the Mosque.
alex jones
The head of Israeli intelligence said a month ago we should shoot our own missile at the mosque at the Temple Mount and blame it on Iran and blow it up, which is the third most holy sign.
Ignoring Obvious Facts 00:11:49
alex jones
The Muslims will go completely ape if that happens.
viktor bout
Well, that's it.
They're just trying to ignite, you know, all out war.
And think of this no reasonable military expert would say that if all Arabs, all Muslims will definitely unite and declare Israeli like enemies because they destroy Ayyaksa Mosque, how long can Israel withstand that?
alex jones
And by the way, we know in the war games, they'll just drive across in Jeeps and Humvees and trucks and, you know, all of it.
And they've done enough munitions that the U.S. or Israel has to stop millions of Muslims.
Just driving across in their vehicles with handguns and rifles.
It's over for Israel then.
viktor bout
That's it.
That's like, I don't know whether they're deciding, you know, it's an equivalent of committing suicide by cop.
Maybe, you know, these elites deciding to commit suicide of the entire country.
Let's create the war and let's, you know, as a result of this war, we killed ourselves.
Who knows?
Because we see recently they're committing economical suicide very easily.
Now, why not, you know, Bibi deciding, let me commit, you know, a Entire country suicide this way, by calling aggression or by attacking Iran.
unidentified
Who knows?
viktor bout
But there's definitely, as you said, not only the Trump issue with the dimension, but I think there is something also there the specialist psychologist or psychiatrist has to look and think what is and why Israeli leadership behaving like that.
Because no reasonable leader of its own country will act in this situation on such.
Disregard just to the obvious facts as a, okay, can you really withstand this?
Can you afford to have this damage?
Can you see any future?
Because look, if you are starting the war without thinking how you want to end this war, if you're starting the war without your clear political objectives, so you are in a situation right now.
Look, it's very now confusing even to listen what was the objective for Trump to start the war.
You know, that Iran cannot have nuclear weapons anymore, or that, you know, international threat, international terrorism.
alex jones
He said again on Fox today the war is won.
viktor bout
That's it.
How many times he already declared that the bloody war is a war?
But why he not backing off?
That's the problem.
And the problem is a question for me, like for anybody, at least I know.
Look, America was bragging for so long that they have this check and balances in the government, that the president cannot take any stupid decision without Congress, put brakes on him.
But apparently, there is a Congress, there is a, you know, All the other chambers, but nothing happened.
Nobody trying even to press on these brakes or eventually brakes not working.
So, what are we going to do?
If tomorrow Trump gives this order, go and nuke Iran.
So, I mean, then it's very difficult to predict what's going to happen next.
And this is now becoming a mess because it's not only Trump shut down the oil supply, he cut off critical other material.
There is a shortage of aluminium, shortage of fertilizer.
Shortage of the gallium gas for the microchips, which cause shortage of the precursors and the raw material for petrochemicals, which means all that sophisticated plastic, carbohydrate stuff, all will be very soon in the short supply.
Population of many countries will face hunger because there is not enough fertilizer.
So every person on this planet will say the name of Trump and course him for maybe several generations, and we are lucky to survive.
unidentified
That's the issue.
alex jones
Well, that's right.
And it all started changing nine months ago.
And just looking at Israel's psychology 34,000 homes, that's an international assessment, blown up in the last month by Israel.
They blew up the only bridges from southern to northern Lebanon.
They're blowing up ancient churches.
The Israelis then go in and tear down the crucifix, Jesus, everything, and broadcast it, and then say, oh, we're sorry.
They're clearly trying to cause a provocation, which is like suicide by war.
Because you're a military analyst, I'm a layperson, I study it.
There's, this is like, there's no good way here.
It's like, let's be evil.
Let's be crazy.
And Israel didn't used to be this bad.
I mean, they are totally, and I see on Israeli TV, we're going to nuke everybody.
We're God, the third temple leaders.
We're unstoppable.
We rule the earth.
It's like a demon has possessed Israel's leadership.
unidentified
Correct.
viktor bout
They only bring it to the world destruction, bombing, you know, and Trump deciding, or he also drank this Kool Aid of suicide cult, going exactly with the same.
Let's go to bomb, you know, in Iran hospitals.
Let's bomb their power station.
Let's bomb all their bridges.
Let's bomb, you know, everything else.
alex jones
All their universities.
While people, during the day, they blow them up when they're full of people.
viktor bout
Well, they don't care.
And that's where the problem is.
You know, what we do if the person who can press this famous big red button are completely unfit and crazy?
What the mechanism now the United States have to stop it?
Whether the, you know, somebody at the top military leadership of the United States have enough guts and courage come and to say, hey, it's in legal order.
You know, we're yet to see that.
But the problem is.
alex jones
I'm told the chairman basically, I'm told the chairman told him that.
Over the weekend.
viktor bout
Yeah, the idea is look, either this would be cool right in the White House to prevent the complete destruction of whatever we understand of the normal, peaceful life.
Because right now, as we speak, the consequences of this attack on Iran, of Israel and United States already will be re vibrating at least for one and a half years if we stop today and try to repair the damage.
So, the question is think of this if the new stage of this conflict will start tomorrow again, then we are coming into the eventually, if not nuclear winter, but definitely a very deep economical crisis.
alex jones
Economic winter, exactly.
So, this pulling back here, imagine you know what the Russians are doing, what the Chinese are doing, where everybody else is going to get very prepared what do you call belligerent, just ready to fight.
And then you know.
The subs, the weapons are all, the locks are off, the fingers are on the dials now, because you would expect that.
Russia's encircled with high speed missiles that could be loaded quickly with nukes for a sneak attack, as Putin said.
We see a large aeronautical attack, we got to commit to hit, we got to get our missiles off.
That's our doctrine, too.
I mean, this is, you can feel that, you can cut the danger in the air with a knife.
unidentified
Correct.
viktor bout
This is why even that famous Doom Days clock is now what, 80 seconds?
It's never been that short to the end of it.
Look, there is no even way to really say, okay, how to find the off ramp for this situation.
Because look, there is no diplomacy anymore left because nobody will trust the way the United States, by its behavior, destroyed all rules and principles of diplomacy.
While you're having a negotiation, you're attacking and killing some other leadership, and then you're sending the same team of negotiators back to Iran and thinking, oh, they must surrender, they must give.
And you're flipping your demands every time, and there is no clear desire really to find the settlements, whether it's the United States, whether it's Israel's.
And Israel behaving like, you know, completely a bully of the blog who said, look, I don't care.
I just go and, you know, start the fight, whatever consequences will be.
alex jones
Because they think that your brother America is going to be there.
viktor bout
That's right, but the underlying question is very simple.
Look, what Trump is doing is really destroying, first of all, the international finance system based on petrodollar.
You see, you know that the recently UIE, what was yesterday or the day before yesterday, when they came to the United States and said, hey, because we've got this so huge damage, please pay our bills.
You know, we should not bail ourselves.
alex jones
And if they don't, exactly, Trump is weakening.
The petrodollar, that is the source, not our military.
The real source is the petrodollar.
viktor bout
Correct.
Now, what the UAE is telling is either you cover us, whatever we lost because of this, because we are not anymore exporting the oil through the hormones trade because of the shutdown by you, we will be forced to switch to trade into the Chinese yuan or other currencies.
And if this UAE stops trading, and they've been the biggest.
Traders in the diesel, in the gas, and all other products, not even crude.
This is basically the end of the petrodollar dominance.
How are you going to force then the Saudis, then the Qataris to sell anything into dollars?
alex jones
And again, the Pentagon told Trump that Iran would hit the UAE and everywhere else, spaces were.
And it happened.
That's why Eric Prince couldn't believe he did it.
I blame Israel again because Trump is a mental midget when it comes to military, even before.
He doesn't.
Israel, I have to say it.
I mean, Israel is psychotic.
Israel's leadership literally should be locked up.
They are demons.
I mean.
viktor bout
Well, I don't know whether you put them on suicide watch, you know, kind of a country, or what you do, you know, strip them of all clothes, you know, make sure they're not wearing anything to harm themselves.
But the problem is they're trying to harm the entire planet.
And that's the issue.
alex jones
What do you think of Israel's new plan?
They're all pushing to hit Turkey next.
They have the biggest military in Europe, conventional.
viktor bout
Well, that's why, look, if you see insanity in its pure form, what are you going to do?
If somebody is going to be berserk or completely crazy, how are you going to stop them?
Call the special ambulance to pack them and bring them to some safe place?
unidentified
I don't know.
viktor bout
We need to find the answer for this.
But very interesting points.
I just recently saw the statistics of the attacks.
Apparently, Iranians attack UAE.
Like 3,000 and whatever, you know, over 600 missiles was attacked or whatever, drones altogether, you know, attacks on military sets on UAE and only 2,800 to Israel.
Think of this and why it's happened.
Apparently, the Americans use the UAE territory to stage an attack against Iran.
So, Iran responded.
And what kind of craziness you will be when you're attacking from even residential areas near Russell Heimer in UAE, near other, you know, stuff.
Intentionally waiting that there would be damage for civilian infrastructure and then blame Iran.
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viktor bout
That's really out of any problem.
alex jones
By the way, guys, pull up maps of Iranian strikes versus U.S. Israel strikes.
And it was even in The Economist magazine, I saw an online data point.
The Iranian strikes are incredible precision.
And they go, oh, look, they're better than Israel and the U.S.
No, they're not better than ours.
They're 30 years behind.
We're bombing civilians on purpose.
It's not misguided, it's terrorism.
Not in our name, folks.
Victor Boot is on fire.
He's my guest.
unidentified
Follow him on exit.
alex jones
Real Victor Boot.
I'll be right back in a few minutes.
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Victor Boots, our guest, elected official in Russia, former political prisoner, geopolitical military expert, international businessman.
I've been asking a lot of questions and interrupting quite a bit, but it's been powerful information.
I'm going to give you the floor the next 10 minutes or so to go wherever you want.
Then I've got some other questions and just give you an update of what's happening here because even though Trump's got a lot of issues, some of this is conscious.
He's throwing the election for the Democrats.
I've talked to folks during the meetings.
He has a 32% approval rating.
He took the Justice Department investigation off of what happened to us with the previous administration with the CIA and FBI running the attacks on us.
That got declassified.
Even by his administration earlier, over a year ago.
And now, since I've been really going after Trump the last month, you can see it all over the news.
All the known Democrat Party operatives at MSNBC, CNN, you name it, New York Times, that we know are spooks, okay?
So it's the CIA, it's Obama's people, actually.
Now, Obama's known operatives have opened up on me.
And it's not about making me the story, it's just a fact.
Hundreds of articles again today, dirty tricks.
As soon as I did that, they opened up on me, which I've already seen.
Trump didn't understand this the first admin.
How the CIA controlled Operation Mockingbird, modern systems, under the Countering Foreign Disinformation Propaganda Act, where they call you a Russian agent or something else, they do this to you.
But now, what they did to me starting 10 years ago, they've now relaunched in earnest the minute I came out and said 25th Amendment him.
So that adds into this whole constellation, what you warned up a few weeks ago, that they're going to start coming after the people that are exposing this.
And I can now tell you they are moving very fast, Victor.
You've got the floor.
donald j trump
Yeah, correct.
viktor bout
Look, because we have now to think about two facts.
Whether Trump was really a Trojan horse using all these talking points about MAGA, make America great again, why we need foreign entanglements, endless war, we need to mind our business, reconstruct, make America beautiful again.
And then the people trust him.
That's how he was able to really win the last election.
But then I don't believe he just changed his mind.
You know, after the election, whatever.
I think this was a get go plan from beginning.
How they let him win this election.
Why the Ababa operatives and all that, you know, forces and troops who've been ready to create a riots and panic after the election result was announced, apparently was very quiet.
There was no, you know, riots.
Nobody burned anything when Trump went to the election.
So eventually somebody said, okay, keep it down, keep it down.
And plus, You know, we know that they all belong to the same Epstein coalition, basically.
All those actors, all those names of politicians, all those, you know, people, whoever goes, how you call it, movers and shakers of the present day politics in the United States are in Epstein files, including Trump himself.
So this is a starting point, you know.
Second one, okay.
Where is logic?
If Trump behaves like this, either he perfectly knows and has this scenario where somebody on his closest cycle says, Hey, there will be no election, don't worry.
unidentified
How?
viktor bout
We will call, we start the war, we call the emergency, we put, you know, shut down everything, we put FEMA concentration camp, activate them, we put those who dissent at this concentration camp, shut them down.
Well, we need, we have a couple voices, we need definitely those independent ones whom we cannot buy, whom we cannot shut down.
Let's close them down.
And then the remaining pillar of the American system, independent courts, would be also completely demolished and removed.
And then you have 100% dictatorship.
And then Trump will be bluffing and laughing.
Now I am an emperor.
And this would be the end of everything for the last 30, 40 years that you guys have been trying and pushing.
And not letting American people lose their hope would be done.
We know perfectly well that the main reason that the globalists decided that they are too tired to play with the democracy since, what, maybe 60s, 70 years ago, they said, look, let's go back to the feudal time.
We need to bring every population as a servant, and those who want to fight for us, maybe they will have a little bit more.
unidentified
That's right.
alex jones
The club of the 60s said, we want to go back to feudalism.
viktor bout
Yeah, correct.
They call it neo-federalism.
And all this transnational corporation, all this, so it's the end of any middle class as we know it, and it's practically happened.
Everybody is going to live very close or beyond the poverty line, and only very few rich and wealthy will enjoy the real life of the land and the slave owners.
That's their plan, in fact.
Of course, they decided there are so many countries with so many populations, they need to starve to death.
So let's close a great energy lockdown, food lockdown.
alex jones
Which is why Larry Fink, exactly, the real target isn't Iran, it's the world.
And that's why Trump definitely thought he was going to be a hero with this and thought he would win, the Israelis told him.
But at the end of the day, Larry Fink is so happy at BlackRock and the British intel that runs him to the Rothschilds because they're laughing, saying finally they're getting their great reset.
Just like COVID doubled the wealthy's money.
Cut half the wealth of the middle class and poor.
Now this is about to do it again.
viktor bout
Well, this may be the last break which can stop them to go into the nuclear stage because I don't believe that the Black Cross wants to see all their wealth evaporate if the nuclear war starts.
But in this crazy game, when you have basically the cult like, suicidal kite like Satanist people who are there completely uncontrolled, it's hard to predict because they are not only playing one against another.
There is a within.
The Satanists, everybody fights against each other, you know, and they try to kill us all.
And this is an issue.
It's difficult even to wrap our minds around this idea how it's even possible.
alex jones
It's the opposite of a social contract.
I remember Elon Musk last year at the World Government Summit.
They used to deny that.
I think it was in Dubai.
He said to them, he said, listen, at the end of a reset, we always start wars to get control.
He goes, I've done the numbers.
We can't, even if you were for your evil plan, A bunch of countries are going to fight.
It's going to cause a giant war.
We're all going to get killed in it.
The elite has to get out of this cycle, bring prosperity to everybody, or we're all dead, which all the numbers show.
But instead, they're going with the old model where the British king will get with the French king, their cousins.
This is in the history books.
They say, We're having uprisings in both countries.
Let's have a war to kill off our peasants.
But you can't do that with all the nuclear and biological weapons and other nasty stuff.
And that's what Elon Musk told them.
And a lot of elites are listening to that, but not enough.
viktor bout
Yeah, not enough.
And another issue, which I think would be interesting fact look, right now, technologically, we're very close to having robots do the fighting.
You know, if now we see what Elon Musk is doing and other startups in America, how the Chinese advance in these robots.
So somebody said that Trump entertained this idea that, you know, his solution will be to start with the what, 50,000, 60,000 robots, send them through.
You know, when it works, that's why you need to do it.
alex jones
Yeah, no, they admit Ukraine's secret weapon is, I can tell you, this is actually in the news.
My sources confirmed it.
They are building all these factories, claiming it's for civilian use, but they've got the AI ready.
And they think the secret weapon, while they want to drag the war out, is going to be deploying, that's what I was told, up to 100,000 ground robots.
You think of bipedal folks, they're actually little tanks mainly that actually launch drones and things.
But yeah, they're preparing hundreds of thousands of robots to attack Russia.
Well, China will just supply Russia with robots.
viktor bout
Well, it's not only this.
We are quite also advancing kind of the different robots, and we are also, you know, testing them.
So it's not like we would be on the wrong side.
alex jones
I know Russia has great robots, too.
I'm just saying China can mass produce them.
viktor bout
Correct.
China can mass produce it.
At least right now, Russia, you know, producing all, you know, drones and the majority of the system we are using in this war by ourselves because there is a lot of startups.
Our old big holdings also be very efficient to scale its own production of all kinds of new weapons.
That's not the issue.
alex jones
And those are just flying robots.
I know Russia's got me saying, regardless, whatever the U.S. scales up, Russia's triple producing.
unidentified
Correct.
viktor bout
The problem is, Ukrainians became just a proxy element of this war.
And definitely, next stage will be as last week, Russian Ministry of Defense.
Already published the list of the targets.
It's all Ukrainian factories on the territory of Poland, Finland, Norway, Denmark, UK, France, Italy, Spain, Turkey, and all these considered legitimate targets because they belong to the enemy.
unidentified
Stop, stop, stop.
alex jones
Go slow because I forgot this happened.
I saw that.
Russia's now saying, look, you're supplying the war, you're using it as a proxy, a hybrid war.
So, Russia is now publishing legitimate military targets.
The West has already hit inside Russia.
That's a big line to cross, but Russia is saying on guard, declaring it.
Start over and explain that.
viktor bout
Okay, look, it's very simple.
So, the Ministry of Defense is saying that they are, hey, since Ukraine decided to move their military production lines to safety to Europe, and European countries have been bragging about, oh, we have the Ukrainian missile factory open in Denmark.
Here we're producing propulsion models of these rockets.
Here we're producing engines for this rocket.
Here we're producing drones.
Here we're producing ammunition.
It's all not to the Europeans, it's Ukrainian factories.
So guess what?
Now Russia's saying all these legitimate targets, we targeted them.
So don't be surprised if you get warning, remove your, you know, evacuate the workers.
We don't want, you know, people to be killed, and we just demolish this.
Look, what the United States will do, or any other country, this situation, it's completely logical, especially in the war, because this is the enemy factories.
We don't care where they're located.
We need to fight and destroy them.
Think of this if, for instance, Iran decides to move their enrichment plant to Afghanistan.
Did the United States say, oh, it's not in Iran, it's Afghanistan?
They're going to bomb it.
The same truth for them to Russia to do exactly the same thing.
alex jones
So, what is Russia's message to Europe?
You better stop.
But Europe's not going to stop.
They've been trying to lure Russia into direct conflict to trigger NATO articles.
viktor bout
Well, I don't believe now the United States is going to step in for Europe if there is a conflict.
On my opinion, that for the United States, Europe is a more serial threat than Russia or China combined.
Okay, everything was.
alex jones
Yeah, Europe is directly trying to shut down our industry, shut down our speech.
I agree.
It's the new Soviet Union.
unidentified
Correct.
viktor bout
And this already Cold War going, you know, between the United States and Europe for the what, at least several, you know, several years minimum.
So, what would be the solution?
The only solution will be to make sure that Europe cannot compete with the United States because they're both, you know, European civilization and what they can do?
They can do nothing.
Now, then the Ukraine, right now, not on the focus of this conflict, but The Europeans, especially the British, will use this as a final, you know, Trump card to throw in this, you know, fire.
Oh, let's go and start an all out war, global war.
In this case, as we said, it's very difficult to really calculate carefully.
alex jones
So, how does Russia accelerate this and end it?
Because Trump tried, but he hasn't, though he's pulling resources to Iran.
What do you think Russia is going to do?
viktor bout
Well, first of all, Trump promised a lot during the Alaska meeting to Putin that he's going to make sure necessary to stop it.
Apparently, there was a change of heart.
Trump decided, why I need to stop it?
Why I need to stop it?
Look, I'm selling the weaponry to the Ukrainians.
I'm providing them the intelligence.
I'm still interested that let's Ukrainians weaken Russia.
It would be not bad for the United States.
alex jones
He adopted the neocon statement about the Ukrainians are killing the Russians, so it's great.
He went from caring about the 30,000 dead a month to loving it.
viktor bout
Yeah, but the problem is there will be all this Ukrainian factor will now become not only the always the serious headache for Trump, because look, for all these two terms of Trump, while he was the president, the Ukrainian factor was always cause of his impeachments, cause of the scandals.
Ukrainians have been always in bed with the Democrats.
So basically, they are globalist agents.
And, you know, it's difficult to deny that Zelensky now.
Openly bragging, look, I just will hold on till the midterm election.
Trump becomes the completely limited, what you call it, when he loses the majority in both chambers.
alex jones
Yeah, yeah, lame duck.
viktor bout
Lame duck.
And then Democrats will, again, want all the assistance to our side.
Sure, well, here's my question.
Kill Putin Plan 00:07:50
alex jones
I have no doubt that Russia couldn't have killed Zelensky as much as he's out and about.
Why isn't Russia taking up?
And I'm not calling for that.
I'm asking a serious question.
Why is Zelensky still above ground?
viktor bout
Well, I guess there was a certain, I would say, agreements made at the beginning of this war that would be no liquidation of the leadership of Ukraine.
And to give all credits due to Putin, if he gave his word, if there was an agreement, he's going to stick to the last.
alex jones
But they've been trying to kill Putin.
viktor bout
Second of it.
alex jones
But they've been trying to kill Putin.
viktor bout
Well, that's another one.
unidentified
But.
viktor bout
Since we are living in the war where there is no rules, no agreements, no any words, worse, nothing, especially when the United States and Europe destroyed all international law and they brag about this.
They destroyed all tradition of the normal war and they brag about this.
The Israelis now destroying just a remaining decent human sense of any army.
How on earth you go and start chopping the Jesus sculpture?
Of the Christianity.
And then you said, oh, we are sorry, we're going to investigate, which something is going on.
alex jones
It's not going to happen.
So let me ask you this.
viktor bout
Correct.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
I'm not a Russian expert like you, but I have studied it.
Am I wrong to say that if NATO or Zelensky, same thing, was able to kill Putin, isn't he more moderate than the hardliners?
And wouldn't that energize the Russians?
Like they're trying, they admit they tried to kill Putin.
They've called for it.
Once he said he'll be dead soon, Lady Graham has called for it.
I mean, what would happen if Putin was killed?
viktor bout
Well, listen, Putin is trying to, I would say, balance, especially keeping in check our, you know, also, you know, the part of society, which is eventually the major part of society.
He wants a very active end of this war to put all the might and, you know, not to have this sweet talk with them or negotiation or sticking, since they are not sticking to any arrangement.
alex jones
Like World War II, the Russians just roll into Germany with artillery and flatten everything.
viktor bout
Correct.
Correct, correct.
So I think Putin right now, he is the most moderate and most liberal president Russia would ever have.
And he is present trying to balance interest, and he is very pragmatic.
So all the calculation was made for keeping in the picture not only desires, emotional, I would say, background, but also very coldly calculated.
Situation geopolitically.
And he is a great master to very, very carefully think through all consequences.
And he's very, very cautious.
And everything Russia does is not because Russia wants to do it, but because now they have to do it at this moment.
alex jones
No, I agree.
It's been extremely restrained.
So I don't even like to talk about it, but if they killed Putin, which they've been trying to do, which is even more insane, what would happen?
I mean, it would not be good.
viktor bout
Well, first of all, I think Russia has a very efficient service which is protecting him personally, physically, and emotionally, at least for the last 20 years.
alex jones
No, but it's hypothetical because NATO has been trying to kill him, which shows how crazy they are.
Because I know what your answer would be saying.
It would be a major escalation, right?
viktor bout
Well, it would be immediately a beginning of the nuclear war.
If any attempts to kill our president, we consider it an attack on our sovereignty.
So we answer with all mights and we will start destroying all those decision centers and all those concentrations.
alex jones
So, London will be.
As soon as Putin hits the ground, missiles go to London.
viktor bout
Definitely.
Not only to London, but goes to all over Europe and eventually also go for the United States because without United States permission, that can be happening.
alex jones
Well, do you disagree with me?
I mean, it looks like NATO has attacked his house a bunch, attacked the Kremlin, attacked the bases.
I mean, they've been trying to kill Putin.
The point is, that's crazy.
viktor bout
Well, let's be also a little bit about the facts.
Just to say, yes, they tried to attack the Kremlin once, and it was one in 2023.
Well, several drones hit the Kremlin, but they never damaged anything.
It was with clipper repair.
It was mainly, I would say, Ukrainian tried to launch some attacks.
In that, the air defense was properly organized.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
So, what were they doing?
What was Ukraine doing?
Trying to get Russia to overreact?
viktor bout
Correct.
That's exactly what they tried to do.
And the Zelensky, you know, Hysterically pushing his people just to blow up something, just to go.
If you cannot attack Moscow, attack St. Petersburg.
We need you attacking Hermitage.
You need to attack some museum, destroy something.
We need a very big picture to show that you can't do it.
alex jones
Blow a passenger train up, which only pisses the Russians off.
viktor bout
That's what they're doing.
They are purely terrorists.
But the problem is that Ukrainian terrorists, okay, it's clear, they are like the stooges, you know, in the hands of their handlers.
But the problem is right now that we're talking about Israel becoming a terrorist state and America becoming a terrorist state, just attacking and killing like a terrorist.
What are their motives to destroy the hospitals in Iran or to helping Ukrainians to destroy the country?
unidentified
No, I agree.
alex jones
But let me give a message to Russia, and I know I'm on the ground.
Almost every Trump supporter I talk to, including high level military, war heroes, you name it, current, former people on the street, the polls show it 80 plus percent are against this Ukraine war, 80 plus percent are against the Iran war.
And so just know not that it matters, but the American people do not support any of this.
viktor bout
Well, that's exactly.
And you see, because of people like you, Alex, you've been trying to talk truth to the people.
And you cannot cheat all the people, you cannot lie to them for long.
They themselves feel where the right word is wrong.
Even now, because it's, by one hand, it's very difficult now to cut off any nation from any information.
They're going to go and do their own research, they're going to find right sources.
You know, you cannot now shut down the internet and create an information gulag in the United States so the people understand what's going on.
That's why mainstream media lost its credibility.
Nobody watching CNN, nobody watching, you know, all these, you know, alphabet soup, you know, channels because they are just a propaganda tool.
alex jones
And so while the only person watching is Trump, he still believes it.
unidentified
Right.
viktor bout
But this entirely purpose, this, you know, Fox News, you know, Fox and Friends at morning, it's just made for the one single viewer.
And him, Trump, because he's watching, they're enjoying and start, you know, erratically posting the post in the, you know, X. You saw the CNN poll that 100% support him.
Yeah, that's hilarious.
You know, even in North Korea, they would not put 100%, they maybe will put 90%.
Yeah, exactly.
Propaganda Tool Only 00:05:21
alex jones
Not even Providence would say 100% support the Kremlin.
unidentified
Correct.
Yeah, yeah.
viktor bout
Well, he becomes, as you said, it's worse than the.
Just a cult of personality, because even in a cult of personality, at least there is a certain rule.
There is a team who are working, they know, hey guys, this is too far.
Let's go a little bit, you know, creating more human image.
Here, as you said, Maglomaniac who lost every control, and there is nobody who tells him, hey, break down, please stop.
This went too far.
You're going to lose your support.
Again, whether we like it or not, eventually, if Trump behaving like this and we're thinking that somebody pushing him, eventually they already have a plan.
It would be no election.
Eventually, there would be a plan.
There will be no freedom of speech.
alex jones
I know it's late in Russia.
I know it's late in Russia.
I promise I'll be gone to five minutes.
I'm going to get closing comments from you in two minutes.
We'll be right back.
But let's put on screen.
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alex jones
But I noticed without even looking, and when I say that, I mean, it must be 10 times more, that I saw four different so called Army Special Operations people, we all know are actually CIA, in the last two weeks on national TV saying, I'm demoralizing the troops.