MUST-WATCH WEDNESDAY FULL SHOW: Trump Capitulated To Iran To Open The Strait of Hormuz, Enraging Israeli Warhawks! Meanwhile, The Ceasefire Has Already Fallen Apart As The Black Hole Of War Widens, Threatening The Entire Planet! In A Powerful Message To The World, Renowned Author & Talkshow Host, Michael Savage, Warns Israel Is Going To Attack Iran With Nuclear Weapons Soon! FINALLY, Owen Benjamin- The Wizard Slayer- Joins Infowars To Reveal How To Break The Spells Cast On Humanity By The NWO! This Is An Ab
Alex Jones and Michael Savage report that President Trump capitulated to Iran on April 8, 2026, dropping oil prices from $150 to $98 per barrel while the ceasefire collapsed. They allege this "Great Reset 2.0" was orchestrated by globalists like the Rothschilds and BlackRock, prompting calls from Mark Levin for nuclear strikes despite Pentagon warnings of 100,000 casualties. Owen Benjamin joins to expose "wizardry" used by elites to manipulate reality, citing CIA mind control and H-1B visa fraud in Frisco linked to Jeffrey Epstein. The hosts conclude that without stopping this deceptive control, the conflict risks escalating into a global nuclear war involving China and Russia. [Automatically generated summary]
Well, ladies and gentlemen, what an incredible time to be alive.
It is Wednesday, April 8th, 2026.
I am your host, Alex Jones, coming to you from deep in the heart of Texas, broadcasting worldwide.
All right, there is a lot of confusion going on about what exactly is happening with this two week ceasefire between Iran and the United States.
Israel said last night Netanyahu, they're going to keep bombing Lebanon and Iran.
And so Iran started shooting missiles back at Israel.
And then Fox News spun it that Iran had broken the ceasefire deal.
I'm not siding with Iran.
I'm watching this happen in live time.
It's not debated.
But Fox News and others that are pro war are targeting people that are low information viewers.
And it's so ridiculous when you're just dealing with facts and people, not just Fox News, but influencers and people.
They want to just believe whatever delusional crap they want.
Last night, this morning.
Oh, look, Jones, you said Trump was about to commit war crimes, and now they made a deal.
This is a great victory.
Is that why Netanyahu and Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin are freaking out?
No, this is a terrible repudiation of Israel and the war.
Iran has basically gotten everything at once in the agreement because Trump was desperate to open the Strait of Hormuz.
This is a huge black eye to the United States.
That Trump didn't engage in increased war crimes or quote, destroy entire civilization.
But this thing, 39 days in, is a total and complete disaster, and we have been right about it.
But you've got one group of pro war people saying this is a great victory and everything's fine, even though the ceasefire's already falling apart.
You've got other people, the Israel first warmonger, Greater Israel lobby, saying that this is a total disaster, which it is, but it's a lesser disaster.
Then last weekend, calling for Trump.
Well, the Pentagon says it might kill 100,000 U.S. troops to take Iran.
Let's just use nukes.
And then Trump says, I'll obliterate your whole country, your whole civilization.
It'll never come back.
The definition of genocide.
Experts go, that sounds like nukes.
They go, oh, you're crazy.
Nobody wants to use nukes.
No, you just have part of the Pentagon pushing nukes.
You've got Israel pushing nukes.
You've got Israel's top Knesset members and the top deputy of Netanyahu on TV saying days ago, we want to use nukes.
When you say we'll destroy your whole civilization in one day and you'll never come back from it, what is that?
And the Pentagon's like, oh, we got things worse than blowing up your bridges and your power plants.
Well, what is it?
Well, we're not going to tell you.
But believe me, you don't want to know.
And JD Vance saying the same thing.
So I shot a video this morning at 7 30 in post attacks and said the ceasefire is not holding.
This is a major strategic defeat for the United States.
We were induced into this by Israel.
But it was the lesser of evil decisions that could be made.
And then the average American can't even figure out what's real because Trump's all over the map.
And we also have Trump now saying, oh, the deal that Iran put out that we say we agreed to, we didn't really agree to that, but we've got another deal, but we can't let you see it.
I mean, what?
This is disastrous mismanagement.
But it's still time to correct.
We'll be right back.
Stay with us.
It is Wednesday, April 8th, 2026.
I am your host, Alex Jones, coming to you from Deep in the Heart of Texas, broadcasting worldwide.
Now, on this transmission, you are going to get the facts.
This morning at about 7 30, I posted to X what I believe was going to happen.
I said the ceasefire is going to probably fall through.
Trump will start saying that the agreement he made with the Iranians isn't the real agreement, because that's what he's done in the past.
Israel's not going to stop.
They already said that last night.
And then when Iran strikes back, the media will say that Iran's broken the ceasefire.
And because the general public is so low information and so politically, militarily illiterate, everyone will just run around and argue about what's happening when we know what's going on.
So here's the facts.
And I don't say this with pleasure or enjoyment because this is the tree I was born in.
This is the tree I live in.
The rest of the world's got major problems too.
I am all in on America and want us to succeed.
And having Israel tail wag the dog and get us into this 39 days ago, 38 days ago, 39 now.
We predicted everything would happen.
It had been war game by all the major war colleges, by the think tanks.
We knew a spectrum of bad things that were going to happen that go from bad to worse.
And a one being bad but not too bad, and 100 being the end of the world nuclear war, this has escalated up to about a 50 right now.
And when Trump came out and said we have a deal and oil prices dropped the most ever, 24% in just a few hours.
The temperature went down from 50 to about 30.
But as soon as a ceasefire falls through, that's already happening, and the strait gets closed again, which Iran just did minutes ago, confidence is lost and oil will go up even higher.
And again, that is the basis of all inflation.
And we are already in an inflationary crisis globally.
And Trump's recovery plan is based on that.
So here's the summation.
I'll go unpack all the facts and show you all the clips.
This makes America look extremely weak.
This endangers the dollar, it empowers our enemies.
And so people say, well, then why did Trump capitulate?
Which he did.
I'll go through it.
Because the other alternative of keeping the straight closed is even worse.
We were put into a war designed as Great Reset 2.0, as COVID 2.0, to wreck the recovery, discredit MAGA, discredit populism, discredit nationalism operating on its own, to put the globalist New World Order back in charge.
That's at the top 100,000 foot view.
And then it goes down from there.
Israel has its interests, wants a greater Israel, wants to knock out its enemies.
But up higher with the Rothschilds and the central banks and BlackRock, they were the final reason the U.S. went forward with this.
And the Saudis wanted it as well.
And so now we are in a disaster.
Now, Nick Fuentes says, and I'll play a clip coming up, that we've lost the war.
Well, if we can pull out of this, we got a bloody nose, but we haven't lost the war.
But the longer we stay in, and the longer Iran holds on, and the longer Iran wins a war of attrition and keeps the Strait of Hormuz closed.
With riots already starting in Ireland and Southeast Asia and everywhere, with oil running out, Australia, and all that comes with that, Trump either totally escalates with giant ground invasions and nukes, because that's the only way to escalate past this, as Mark Levin and others in Israeli TV are calling for.
That's how this works in escalation.
That top general's on to explain it to you.
And as this escalates, you either escalate into full, absolute, total war, and the Pentagon says it'll kill at least 100,000 U.S. troops to take the country.
And so Mark Levin says, last weekend, we have the clip, well, let's just nuke them.
You see, and that's Trump's brain on this.
But Trump over a week ago began to wake up to the fact that this was a trap and even made fun of Levin publicly and said, well, you're bad, you're an evil person, you need bad advice, but you're nice to me, so I listen to you, even though I probably shouldn't have.
Remember that clip I played about 10 times?
And I'm talking to people that are talking to Trump that are in the cabinet meeting.
Susie Wiles is freaking out.
Vance is freaking out.
Trump's screaming at him, saying, No.
He told Tucker Carlson two weeks ago, Tucker said, This could be a disaster.
You're being set up.
You got to get out of this.
He said, It's going to be OK.
And he said, How do you know that?
Tucker told the New York Times this.
And he said, Well, everything always goes good for me.
That's not really the case.
But Trump perseveres, has good backers.
So God has pulled us through on these things.
But you can't always.
Just expect that just because you've had success most of the time, you're always going to have it in the future.
So that's where we are.
And Vance was over in Hungary.
He was the one getting this deal done.
Trump saw the $150 oil.
All his economists said, sir, if this even continues a week, the global economy is going down.
And so Trump said, fine, make a deal.
And I was told last night by people involved in it, I'll just leave it at that.
I got a call before it even got announced by an insider with Vance that, hey, we got the deal.
It's about to be announced.
If you want to get ahead of it, and I was driving, and by the time I got home, it boom popped up.
I got it like 10 minutes before.
And they said, Look, Trump has agreed to this, and he hasn't even seen it.
And I'm sitting there about eight o'clock at night or whatever, thinking, I should shoot a video on this.
I said, No, I'm going to wait.
But the point is, here's Trump now today, just an hour ago, saying he hadn't even seen what they're claiming he agreed to, and that he has his own agreement.
So that's how crazy this is.
That's why there's a constant flip flopping and all this going on.
So, the deeper we get in, the worse.
As I said at 7 30 this morning in my first report on this, I think that this is going to degenerate, the ceasefire will fall through, and then the war will then get worse.
And I think Trump will then double down, and Israel will double down if we don't put massive political pressure on them.
And the White House is admitting Tucker Carlson, myself, and a bunch of other prominent people going after Trump had a huge effect with the base.
Most of the military is telling Trump it's a bad idea.
It gave them a lot of support.
Susie Wiles, I told you two weeks ago, was asking members of the cabinet to push back on Trump.
Then she leaked it to the news last week.
So there's a lot of people trying to get Trump's brain out from under the control of Benjamin Netanyahu and his little wizard over there, Mark Levin, that literally was controlling Trump's brain.
And Trump said so in repeated posts.
This is what I think.
Listen to him.
That was three weeks ago, two weeks ago.
Last week, oh, you're a really bad person, really evil.
I shouldn't have listened to you, but you tell me I'm great, so I did.
I mean, it's like a stream of consciousness craziness.
So that is the facts.
I got a bunch of clips I want to go to right now.
But Israel announced last night, and yeah, there's a video.
He said, We're not stopping.
We're going to keep hitting Iran.
We're keeping Lebanon and just some of the biggest bombings yet.
Iran fires missiles back all over Fox News.
Hannity, why are they shooting missiles?
They broke the deal, even though Israel had just announced they were going to intensify attacks.
And again, Fox just can't help but manipulate its viewers.
Just can't help but think we've got stupid viewers.
We've got idiots watching.
Let's lie to them.
Now, Iran came out about two hours ago and said, yeah, the ceasefire wasn't abided by.
And Vance had said Israel was going to stand down.
They didn't.
So we're reclosing the strait and we're going to continue attacking.
So basically, there is no peace deal.
Trump just agreed to something he hadn't even read so that it would make oil drop, which it did from $150 a barrel to $98 a barrel.
A $52 drop overnight.
Now, what's going to happen when it becomes clear to everybody and the dust settles that the war is still going?
Will Trump stop his?
We'll destroy your civilization.
You'll never come back.
We'll blow up your water plants.
Genocide talk?
War crimes talk?
Because that's what caused the backlash.
And a bunch of Republican senators saying, hey, buddy, when you do stuff, you can't call it a war crime.
You got to call it something else.
We're all for blowing them up, but you don't give the definition of it and say, I'm going to commit a crime.
I'm going to rob a bank and I'm going to shoot the tellers when I go in.
I mean, it's bad guy stuff.
It's super villain Marvel comic.
Give it to my demands or I'll destroy your planet.
I am from the Bagugian Empire.
I am from Cycronia.
I am from Mars.
I am here.
Take me to your leader.
You have one hour to capitulate till we destroy the planet.
Tell me where the rebel base is or I'll destroy your homeworld of Alderaan.
Here's Trump.
Numerous agreements, lists, and letters are being sent out by people that have absolutely nothing to do with the USA Iran negotiation.
In many cases, they are total fraudsters, like the official Iranian government.
And then Vance puts it out and says, Yeah, this is the agreement.
Charlatans and worse.
They will be rapidly exposed after our federal investigation is completed.
There is only one group, meaningful points, that are acceptable to the United States, and we will be discussing them behind closed doors during these negotiations.
We were told the agreement was done.
We were told they agreed to open the straight, which they did.
There is only one group of meaningful points that are acceptable to the United States, and we will be discussing them behind closed doors during these negotiations.
These are the points that are the basis of which we agreed to a ceasefire.
It is something that is reasonable and can easily be dispensed with.
It is very much like fake news CNN last night, headline of source.
That had no authority or authority to write a letter claiming great authority, President Donald John Trump.
This was given to CNN, they report by Vance's delegation.
The Iranians put out the same thing.
We heard it was a two week ceasefire.
The ceasefire didn't hold.
Now, what are oil prices going to do?
People are going to wait and see.
They'll probably stay where they are.
And now, when this falls through, and I think it will, wars are like black holes, they suck everything into them.
It's very hard to stop them once they're started.
I hope I'm wrong.
But I think there's a 98% chance that within two weeks, it's even worse than it was yesterday.
And a very good chance Trump's going to double down back to his old Tyrannosaurus Rex, terrible tyrannical lizard behavior.
That's what it means in Latin.
And we're going to be there.
Unless the public puts pressure and sane minds reach out to Trump, which did get him to listen.
That's being admitted to.
So, don't think your voice doesn't count when the neocon bots call you a traitor and an Iranian agent or whatever because you're like, no, you can't destroy our whole civilization.
No, you can't make sure they never come back.
Remember, we're trying to liberate these people.
No, Israel drug you into this and told you to be over in four days.
And then you have other people that, again, are running around celebrating the classic little talk radio hosts and influencers that just regurgitate pure bull.
I'm going to go over the plan that the New York Times got from the delegation and from the Iranians, from the U.S. and the Iranians.
Oh, Mark Levin's saying more things about me.
Yeah, Mark Levin was calling for these Blaze reporters that are warning about the war to all be fired.
And I said, Yes, fire and bomb anyone you don't agree with.
When you die, you're going to share a jail cell in hell with Hitler.
And then says Goebbels, that's the Nazi propaganda minister, I could see you as a camp guard, you disgusting slob.
Have you paid your bills yet, deadbeat?
You mean the fake CIA FBI run show trials that'll be overturned by the Texas Court of Appeals?
There he is defending the left's war on free speech and calling me a deadbeat and a slob.
Hey, buddy, I did hundreds of sit ups and push ups today and lifted a bunch of weights and I hiked five miles yesterday and I am not a fat slob.
I mean, what is this thing?
I am a fat slob.
I've been overweight and kind of slobbish before.
You look like dandruff on the ass of a possum or something that crawled out of Satan's butt.
I mean, I love, like, can you argue with something I said?
I responded to him saying, fire this Blaze reporter that criticized the war.
Fire this piece of crap, this slob, this garbage, get rid of him.
And meanwhile, he's like, you know, blow up and kill everybody we disagree with in the Middle East.
I respond with real facts.
You want to fire people and bomb people you disagree with.
And you're going to share a jail cell in hell with Hitler.
And his response is you're a fat slob, deadbeat, that won't pay the Democrat Party their $1.5 billion fake judgment.
Oh, yeah, he was an ever trumper back when Trump was getting sued by the same people, the same law firms.
He supports the same law firms.
I bet that slob can't even wipe his ass.
I mean, look at him.
It's like a raccoon or something.
It's just, but he's so pissed.
I got clips of him coming up.
Oh, he's so mad.
He was calling for Trump.
Well, if the military says we'll lose hundreds of thousands of troops invading, they'll die.
Then use a nuclear weapon.
So I love having Mark Levin because he attacks me a bunch.
I can't even keep track of it.
I'll just be going around through X, read news articles, and it's just like Mark Levin attacking me, Mark Levin attacking me, Ben Shapiro attacking me.
I love it because you're Jonathan Pollard.
You're an Israeli intelligence asset, in my view.
You certainly operate just like one.
You're a propagandist.
You're the guy that writes the propaganda for Sean Hannity.
So you're the mouth of Sean Hannity.
You're the voice of Sean Hannity, or he's your mouth.
So last night and today, he's like, oh my God, I've got the plan.
He got it from Israel, too.
It's the real plan.
That is a major defeat from what Trump wanted unconditional surrender.
Okay, you can have your uranium.
If it's not enriched at this level, we have inspectors.
Okay.
Reparations.
Okay, you can control the strait and charge $2 million per ship.
You get a million, another country gets another million.
That is a major, major, major, major defeat.
Major defeat.
But it's okay because continuing deeper into it will be a bigger defeat.
You got to know when you've been hoodwinked, Trump.
You got to know when you've been scammed by the Israel lobby and the weird Christian Zionist fruitcakes, Pastor Hagee.
Yeah, there it is.
There will be no deal.
Let me say it in the great and powerful Oz.
There will be no deal with Iran except.
Unconditional surrender.
After that, and the selection of a great and acceptable leader, we and many of our wonderful and very brave allies, Israel and partners, will work tirelessly to bring Iran back from the brink of destruction, making it economically bigger, better, and stronger than ever before.
Iran will have a great.
Future.
Make Iran great again.
Mega.
Thank you for your attention to this matter, President Donald J.
That was back on March 6th, a month and two days ago.
Aged very well.
Then we got this.
Let's do this in Darth Vader's voice.
A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again.
I don't want that to happen, but it probably will.
However, now that we have complete and total regime change, we're different, smarter, and less radicalized minds prevail.
Maybe something revolutionary, wonderful, can happen.
Who knows?
We will find out tonight one of the most important moments in the long and complex history of the world.
47 years of extortion, corruption, and death will finally end.
God bless the people of Ireland!
And then he basically gives them everything they want.
And then that's embarrassing, so he pulls back from that.
Oh, I got the stock market back up, I got the oil down.
Okay, now the war's not over, and now there's no peace deal, and now Mark Levin is back in charge.
The midget riding Master Blaster.
Remember, I use the analogy Munskin and everybody uses it.
It's a popular meme.
Type into X. Trump and Israel Master Blaster meme.
That's beyond thunderdome.
It's a little engineer midget, or dwarf actually, that sits on like this seven foot tall, giant, mentally retarded man.
And so they decide who runs Barter Town, but who can win the Gladiatorial Games?
Well, he's got the Master Blaster, the two together.
Well, the Israelis, for what they know so far with the details in this two week delay in the war, they're not too happy with the details, but they say it's President Trump's decision to make.
The Iranian response was to fire another missile at Israel.
It wasn't five minutes from the time that True Social Post went up.
Our phone is lit up with another incoming missile.
This missile was intercepted over Jerusalem.
The shrapnel came down.
We've got no word of any injuries.
It should be noted that word had gone out through the IDF that we should anticipate a lot of missile fire tonight, and they have not taken that down yet.
So that's the situation right now.
Sometimes we see here in the Middle East that they will fire one just to be defined at the end, but it's also possible that word hadn't gotten out to the rocket crew.
There ain't nobody telling me what the thinker did.
I can't even control myself.
I'm not even going to control myself.
I'm a loose cannon.
That's the assessment of the CIA department.
And you bet your ass it is because you can put a gun to my head and I ain't going to lie.
Not when lives are on the line.
My integrity is who I am.
I don't have integrity.
I am integrity.
And that's why people tune in and they go, Why the hell did you say that horrible thing about yourself?
Because it's true.
I've told you every dirty secret.
I've told you stuff I never told anybody on air.
This is the truth, Sarah.
I get in here and I tell you I've murdered and I am so ashamed of it.
Six children I paid for.
Mad scientists to chop them up and suck their brains out.
The left goes, Oh, look, he's discredited.
He's against abortion, but he admits he paid for them before I got saved, real saved, before I repented when I was 18 years old.
And that's a whole other story I've told many times, but it's miraculous.
And as my dad rebuking me, And kicked me out of the house.
I just graduated high school.
They were already saying get an apartment, move out.
I had jobs.
I was making plenty of money myself.
I've always been an entrepreneur.
And I had this very nice 25 year old lady over who was pretty wild.
And she was all swanking around in the kitchen and kind of said some little bit of flirtation stuff to my dad in front of my mom.
And my mom went to my dad and she said, David, it's time for him to move out.
Get him out of here.
I'm sick of all these women he's bringing in here.
And he comes back in my bedroom and he's waiting.
I'm out and he's in there and he goes, What is this?
What is this?
It was a Planned Parenthood $300 abortion.
And I said, It's an abortion.
He said, Stop killing my grandchildren.
He goes, You're out of here this weekend.
And he went and found me an apartment, got me in it, literally got a U haul and threw my stuff out.
And said, We don't want to have a relationship with you if you murder our grandchildren.
And I started having nightmares about the abortions I'd funded at that point.
And it was just, it was like a black cloud coming in, like a demon attacking Tucker.
But it was something like that, kind of these chills and God coming down on me, and you better stop.
And I stopped it.
I stopped it.
I reproved myself.
And God said, You got a mission.
You're going to be political.
You're already into that stuff.
Go do this.
I had this sudden drive.
And I basically stopped dating for a while and had to cut that off.
And that's how I got on air at 20 on Access TV and on local radio at 21, and number one by 23 in this town in the ratings and then syndicated by 25.
And that's the mission.
That's it.
But I tell you who I am.
Nobody else tells you that stuff.
But if God could forgive me and raise me up to fight evil, but I'm not going to lie to myself about what I did.
I didn't know I was killing them.
I thought it was a blob.
I believe the lies.
But I now know what I did and I repented and God has forgiven me.
I didn't mean to go off into that story.
I apologize.
It's just that the left will air that and say, oh, look, he admits he's a horrible person.
No, I did things that were wrong.
I was lied to.
And then I had already been saved and baptized when I was a kid and went to church and loved Jesus and felt the presence of God and all that.
But I got off track.
Let's say that was backslidden.
But the next time I got hit by God after that, a couple months after I moved out, I was put on a mission.
And then about five years into that, Five, six years into that, I told the story about like the real next level.
This wasn't the Holy Spirit making you cry and the comforter for baby Christians.
This was like having a major general or a general give you your commission and show me the future.
And I've been telling you since then, 25, 26 years ago, 27 years ago, about what was going to happen, how we exposed the globalists and we'd have caused a worldwide awakening and all the things, and how I'd be persecuted for it.
I was told that in a download before I. Signed on the dotted line.
It wasn't a contract, but it was a spiritual contract.
And then my mind and my discernment was upgraded, leveled up, and I've leveled up four or five of the times since then.
It is powerful serving God, it is amazing serving God.
So when I tell you this war would be a disaster, when I tell you it's a setup, when I tell you it's multi leveled manipulation and I'm proven right, know that I'm telling you what I really believe and you've seen it come true again.
I don't think that it was good at all to try to negotiate with these people because now they think that they have legitimacy, that they are equal partners at the table, and that they are equals to our negotiators here in the United States.
And I think that that is a grave mistake.
I think that it is a grave mistake to make these terror leaders, these terrorist leaders, these IRGC leaders who are now in charge of Iran.
To let them think that they are legitimate actors.
I think that it's really dangerous for the long term of our own, not just our national security, but the survival of our country and the survival of Western civilization.
I think it was a terrible decision today.
I think it was a terrible decision to have a ceasefire.
And I do believe that whether it's a Republican or a Democrat who we have as president in 2028.
Iran is going to end up having the upper hand because let's be honest, we're never going to have another president with the state of affairs right now in the world, in our country.
We're never going to have another president that's as pro Israel, pro Western civilization as Donald Trump.
And being pro Israel doesn't mean you're pro Jewish.
It means that, you know, you support our ally in the Middle East that is on the front lines of combating jihad.
That'll cause a global depression if it continues.
His economist told him it's a fact.
They held on.
They won the war of attrition.
He has to negotiate with them because they're winning.
She doesn't have a basic understanding.
She reads off a teleprompter what she's told to say.
No need to put her in a straight jacket and make fun of her.
It's sad.
Laura used to be a sweeter girl.
I don't even dislike her.
She's very sad.
It's disgusting.
Zero Hedge is reporting that the Iranian news, and we've got it and it's confirmed, is saying they're planning a strong response to Israel for continuing to just blow up whole neighborhoods.
I mean, five blocks at a time, just everybody's houses just killing everybody.
And the news, little dead kids everywhere.
I mean, this is just terrible.
And it makes the Muslims look like the good guys.
I just cannot stand this, and I don't like being the bad guy.
So I'm not going to support any of this, and I'm going to get more and more hardcore against it all.
112 killed in Israel's devastating attacks across Lebanon.
Yeah, I've seen the footage.
It's just unbelievable.
The entire neighborhood's just vaporized.
Is that what you voted for, folks?
We're supposed to sit here and go along with the new Trump run by Mark Levin, but Levin's getting sidelined for now.
But the way Trump flip flops around, I think he'll be back in charge soon enough.
We're going to break.
I got what Nick Fuentes has to say about us losing the war.
I wouldn't go that far yet, but by staying in it, we lose it.
What a strange game.
The only way to win is not to play.
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Nick Fuentes says we've lost the war because we did this deal, but now the deal's disintegrated and the ceasefire's over.
But I agree, we shouldn't have gotten in the war.
As Michael Savage three months ago said, he's pro Israel.
I'm not anti Israel either, but that this was too much to chew.
That's what all the assessments were.
But now it's happened.
But if we continue with the war and they don't magically fall, which I wish they would, then this could be a Pyrrhic victory that ends up killing the American empire like World War I. Killed the British Empire.
Took a long time to do it, but it did it.
Here's a few minutes of Nick Fuentes.
We'll go to break and join 400 plus radio stations on their side with Michael Savage.
Here is Nick Fuentes.
And I overall disagree with this, but this is more true than some of the fake right wing Republicans saying this was a victory, which already fell apart as I predicted last night.
And what's interesting about that is this is a complete and total U.S. defeat.
This is an absolute, there is no ambiguity here.
It's not debatable.
It's not subject to interpretation.
We lost decisively.
It's like I said, when we got into this conflict, we had about five military objectives here.
And these were the things we were demanding from Iran.
We were seeking an end to their nuclear program, forfeiture of their highly enriched uranium stockpile, restrictions on their ballistic missiles, restrictions on their support for regional proxies, and regime change.
Of course, once the war started, Iran seized control of the strait.
And so the sixth objective became to wrest control over the strait, or at least open it for shipping.
We did not achieve any of those things.
Any of those things.
There is no regime change.
We did not suppress or destroy their capability to build and launch drones and missiles.
So they maintain that conventional strategic capability.
We did not seize or destroy.
In any way, restrict their ability to enrich uranium.
We didn't take their stockpile of enriched uranium.
We didn't restrict their ability to further enrich or make more enriched uranium.
We did not meaningfully degrade or destroy the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, and the regime remains intact.
The only thing that you can say that we achieved from the war is that we dealt a pretty significant blow to their Navy.
Arguably, we damaged a significant percentage of their missile launch platforms.
And probably their stockpile of missiles is less than 50% of what it was before the war.
But it was not destroyed.
It was not annihilated.
And neither was their navy.
They still maintain a pretty substantial navy, which consists in fast and maneuverable speedboats.
They still maintain about 50 tiny submarines, which they use to close the Strait of Hormuz.
The fact is, they were able to keep the Strait of Hormuz closed.
That's the miscalculation of Trump 39 days ago.
And that's what the Pentagon told him a 92% chance that they hang on, they don't fall, and then they will close it.
That is the issue.
And he didn't listen to Tulsi Gabbard.
He didn't listen to the Chairman Joint Chiefs.
He listened to Mark Levin, he admits, who admits he doesn't understand the military.
And Mark Levin, last weekend, called for using nuclear weapons because the Pentagon was saying we could lose up to 100,000 troops taking over Iran.
It would take half a million, probably.
Make Vietnam look like a cakewalk.
And so, Mark Levin, who always says, Well, I don't know the military, but they're supermen.
Let's use nukes.
I mean, folks, this is insane.
In all the war games, the nuclear war breaks out regionally, it goes nuclear all over the world.
So, I'm not a fan of the Mullahs.
Everybody knows that.
If they could have snapped their fingers and successful, as I said 39 days ago when this started, that three hour Saturday show, I said, I want to be proven wrong.
I hope they fall in four days like they think.
I hope the Iranians rise up.
We now know they gave a bunch of guns, Israel and the U.S.
It didn't work.
Stop biting off more than you could chew.
In Venezuela, I said it's in our hemisphere.
They're in our business with Cuba.
If Trump can do it, do it.
It was successful.
I said it's a gamble.
People got mad at me that I was supporting a regime change for the first time in 32 years on air.
But this is different, folks.
This is different.
I'm obsessed with this.
Michael Savage, pretty smart cookie, joins us in 60 seconds.
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Heavily attacked and censored, obviously, is the things he says.
He was on not the last time, the time before last, he was talking to top Israeli generals and intelligence, former intelligence heads, and obviously they're not anti Israel.
And they said, no, Ned, you know, he's out of control.
He's bit off more than he can chew.
Israel has a terrible rating in the Gallup poll, and they're not going to defeat the Muslims right now.
And they've already defeated the ones that were surrounding him.
So just stop and stop trying to get us into a full war with Iran.
He called it.
In fact, I'm going to find that part of the interview and have it added in this in post.
We posted on Rumble and X today from the live interview you're watching at 12 07 Central Standard Time.
But I wanted to get him on at this historic moment, and I really appreciate him giving us the time.
He does do a lot of other interviews to talk about this and then talk about the midterms, Trump's approval rating plunging, where we're going.
Mark Levin, who is the brains, really the guy that writes everything, the wall hanger, as he calls him, Sean Hannity, who I'm not going to be mean to Sean, he's literally retarded, though.
But Mark Levin is the brain behind him, and then Mark Levin completely freaking out calling for a nuclear war.
And, but admitting this is a big defeat so far for the U.S., the problem is we keep staying in there, in my view.
It only gets worse because the Iranians are not vertically integrated, they are parallel.
And they've got thousands of people that are related to Muhammad that can be the mullah.
And each one you get is worse than the next.
And Trump keeps saying, oh, I've got people I can work with now.
And then, of course, he can't.
And now the ceasefire is falling apart.
And so this is a disaster, in my view.
And yeah.
Highest oil, $150 a barrel.
Trump says it's over, drops the biggest drop in history, $52 in one night.
Now they've closed the straight again, as I predicted this morning.
It's all off.
And this is a fiasco.
It's like watching a Three Stooges movie, but they got nuclear weapons.
So that's my take.
That's my intro.
Michael Savage, please give us your very well researched historical take on where we are.
And hopefully you can give us ideas on how Trump can extricate himself from this disaster.
Or do we just double down and go to full war and have a half million troops invade Iran?
I mean, so after the conquest of Persia and the subjugation of Persia and the conversion.
Of the population from their indigenous religion of Zoroastrianism to Islam, they went on to the next nation.
They conquered all of Persia.
And then the Muslim Empire pushed far into Western Turkestan.
I'm reading from my own notes, I don't want to make a mistake here.
And eastward until I met the Chinese.
People don't know there are, when you see regions of China that are Muslim, it's because of those years of conquest.
They then went into Egypt.
And Egypt fell almost without resistance to the new conquerors.
Who, full of their own fanatical belief in the sufficiency of their book, the Quran, they actually wiped out the vestiges of the book copying industry of the Alexandria Library.
Egypt was not a Muslim nation.
So then the tide of conquest then poured along the north coast of Africa to the Straits of Gibraltar and Spain.
Spain, that's interesting.
Spain is a socialist nation right now.
Spain has capitulated basically to the Muslims within.
You say socialist, but you're saying, when you say socialist in Europe today, Alec.
I think you'd have to agree, these are socialists who have knuckled under to the Muslim population that's invaded their nations.
So then Spain was conquered in 710, and the Pyrenees Mountains were reached in 720.
That's over a 10 year period.
In 732, the Arab advance reached the center of France, but then it was stopped for good at the Battle of Poitiers, and then the Arabs were pushed back as far as the Pyrenees again.
So, the conquest of Egypt gave the Muslims a fleet of great ships.
And for a time, I'm almost through, it looked as though they would take Constantinople.
They made repeated sea attacks between 672 and 718, but the great city held out against them.
So, then we see the Arabs conquered a vast swath of territory from Spain to China.
From Spain to China.
And what happened next?
Is a matter of people studying the rest of the history of these nations.
So, what does it have to do with today?
Unless you understand the mindset of the followers, you don't understand what they're trying to do.
They're not fighting for self determination, they're not fighting the evil empire of America per se.
They're trying to take over the whole world and impose Islam on the whole world.
That's their belief system.
It's that simple.
So, where does that leave us?
What role do we play in this?
Well, look at our own cities.
Take a look at New York City.
They already have, in my estimation, a leader of the Muslim Brotherhood as mayor of the biggest financial capital in the United States of America, if not the world, New York City.
How did that happen?
How did the Muslim empire expand into New York City with a vile communist Muslim, by the way?
Not just a Muslim who has peace in his heart.
There are many Muslims who have peace in their heart.
This one has hate in his heart for everyone except his own people.
He's running New York City.
How did that happen?
He's part of the caliphate, the worldwide caliphate.
You think he's going to make New York better?
Take a look at New York.
It got worse, not better.
Putting social workers on the street instead of cops.
Anyway, we know the whole story.
So, what do we do with Iran?
Is the question.
You know, yesterday, Alex, I celebrated because it was coincidentally the day that Trump and I know the ceasefire has fallen apart by now, as we knew the Muslims would not hold to a ceasefire.
They never have in history, by the way.
You look at the whole history of truces with Israel, every truce was broken because they break every truce.
In plain English, and they always have a reason for it.
They hide their women and children in mosques and they say that the Jews blow up a mosque by dropping a bomb.
They put their soldiers inside a school and the poor children get killed.
I'm not a crystal ball reader, but I have to go back to what you're saying.
You're 100% correct.
But what do we do about the Muslim invasion of America?
I know it's an impolite statement to make.
This is not a benign movement in America when you see them bowing down in the streets on their hands and knees and blocking traffic in New York City and other cities.
Mark Levin went on the radio and said, I got what I deserved.
That's Mr. Conservative there.
So, I don't want to waste my time talking about this empty suit who pretends to be a great genius.
What the hell is he quoting figures from the Civil War for?
Does it sound like he's smart?
He just likes numbers of dead people?
Let's talk about now rather than this empty suit that will be forgotten by history.
The important thing is what do we do as Americans today, not what talk show hosts have to say about it, including myself.
Yesterday I was saying I was celebrating the truce, and it was in sync with.
A profoundly significant holiday amongst very, very pious Jews yesterday.
People don't know this, where they stayed up all night last night reading from Exodus, where God parted the Red Sea and let the Jews escape Egypt.
And then, according to the myth, the Egyptians followed, and then the sea closed in and drowned all of the Egyptian soldiers.
So that's the myth of the, see, the Christians understand that, the children understand that story.
But the fact is, it was celebrated last night.
And I was saying, it's amazing to me how we're living through biblical times.
And I think you, as a devout Christian, despite the fact that we don't know the way out of this at this moment, would have to agree we're living through some biblical history right now.
So last week, let's go back to the airman who, one, was rescued immediately, the F 15 pilot.
The backseater was missing, remember, for three days?
He was alleged to be, he was thought to be dead on Friday.
And then he was discovered and came back to life on Sunday and was rescued.
To me, that was a biblical story.
It was like the death of Jesus on Friday and his rebirth on Sunday.
I was sitting here saying, How much more symbolism do we need that God's hand is involved in some of this symbolism?
So now we come to today.
Well, what does this mean?
We have a truce yesterday.
I celebrate on the air talking about it, saying hallelujah.
The stock market soars, oil drops.
And now today we wake up and there they go.
They did it again.
They did just what everyone feared they would do.
They break the truce.
And we don't know what is going to happen next.
I'm not inside Donald Trump's mind.
However, I think we would all have to agree that Donald Trump, despite all of his flaws, Despite all of his bluster, despite all of his inconsistencies, is a man of steel.
And he will not yield, Alex.
He's not going to yield to them.
So, what do you think he's likely to do?
Is the question.
Will he follow the advice of the lunatics who say use nuclear weapons?
That was part of the deal that they would stop, and Netanyahu said, no, exactly.
Israel's already won.
They've got to stop biting off Iran's too much.
Let's come back and talk about that when we come right back.
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Iran is bigger than ever and Israel is stronger than ever.
Netanyahu, there are still additional objectives and we will achieve them.
We are ready to resume fighting at any moment.
Our finger is on the trigger.
They had an ongoing White House press conference about this.
Iran state media claims the United States has begun violating the ceasefire and is attacking Tehran.
Who knows if that's even true?
We'll track all that as it unfolds.
But again, here's the deal all the economists are clear.
You get oil of $150 a barrel for even a few weeks, and it's already caused major problems lower than that.
It kills the recovery.
That's where they've got us.
But all their forces, all the Middle East of Hezbollah, have already been basically defeated.
And that's what Savage said like four months ago from Israeli sources is that it's just biting off more than you can chew.
And that's what the Pentagon told Trump.
So that's really the problem here is now will Iran go further because they feel like they can do whatever they want with the straight and feel like we're weak because this thing has been initiated.
But Michael Savage, I want to finish up on this topic and get your view on what you think Trump should do, because I totally agree with you and where this is going.
And then obviously, Netanyahu has to stop hitting Lebanon.
He's kind of signaling that, but who knows if that'll actually happen.
And then, big picture, the Democrats, these special elections where the Democrats just won big in Wisconsin and other states, where MAGA goes in the future.
You've looked at your crystal ball.
You say you don't have one, you do, about borders, language, culture, all that.
You really laid out the runway.
Trump admits this that he kind of came in on.
With the main definitions of this fight.
And I've contributed as well, but kind of the old Republican Guard was just really establishment stale.
It was you and myself and others that kind of lost all this.
We're not bragging, it's just a fact.
So tell me then where you see this going in the future, what your advice is to populists, to conservatives, to nationalists, to people that want to defeat the communist disease we have in this country.
The new power center and what you call conservatism or the populist movement is people that focus on Israel.
But now, by Israel dragging us into this, you can debate the reasons.
It's given even more power to that.
And clearly, Candace Owens, I have my issues with her and things she does.
And, you know, Nick, it was interesting we have him on for debates and discussions.
Tucker, I think, legitimately is anti war.
And has thrown his lot in, but he has gotten basically, I like Tucker a lot, become an apologist for Islam in that vein.
So I think it's important to focus on communist China, on Islam, on the left in general that's allied with Islam, and then also look at Israel, criticize Israel when it's needed, but not make it all about that.
Because I have guests on, not even those guys you mentioned, but others I used to have on, they can't even talk about other topics.
They will just go right back to that.
It's like a one trick pony, and it's all they can talk about.
These are shallow people who don't know anything about history.
They're not smart.
They have an audience now.
They found a new pinata to beat up, which is the Jews andor Israel.
It's gotten them huge ratings, and they keep beating it because it brings an attractive audience to them.
They never talk about the attacks on Christians all over the world by Muslims, as I mentioned in Africa, for example, the slaughter of Christians all over the world by.
Fanatical Muslims.
So I think I would rather move away from that.
I think we need to focus more on America right now.
Where do we go from here?
I predicted the other day that if this did not end, it's likely that Tehran would be bombed, if not nuked, by the way.
And I said it would not be us who did it.
I wrote it on my own Twitter feed.
I said it would be the bad boy Israel that does it.
The U.S. is certainly not going to drop a nuclear bomb on an Iranian target.
They'll use.
A pariah nation, Israel.
Israel is now the most hated nation on the planet because the Islamic front has the greatest propaganda ever seen in the history of the world where Americans have taken their side.
Can you imagine a nation that has just slaughtered 10 to 30,000 protesters is now considered the good guy by all of these people who don't see the big picture, don't know history, don't care?
So if there is.
Any kind of horrendous decision to go nuclear, and let's pray to God that there isn't, because the next stage could be China and Russia drawn in on Iran's side.
So it doesn't take a genius to understand that they're an allied conglomerate.
That if this gets to a nuclear level, they're going to enter the fray.
And we could be targeted here in America.
This has to be stopped immediately.
Whoever's doing this in Tehran, I don't know if it's Israel or America, but I told you they're going to use bad boy Israel to drop the bombs on Tehran.
Since they hate it anyway, they figure, let them do it.
Trump's not going to do it.
So where does it go?
You have to stop the war immediately.
No matter how you do it, I don't care what, I don't care what it takes, you've got to stop the bombs from falling immediately.
Until the bombs are stopped, there will be nothing to talk about.
So let me throw this in because what you're saying is historic, nuanced, sophisticated, because this is how the world really works.
I totally agree with what you're saying.
That you kill the mullahs, that makes them more popular.
You bomb all these civilian targets, it makes them more popular.
They're going to hang on.
They're going to play the victim.
They're going to unify a front against Israel and the U.S. That's why this move was bad that I get called an Iranian agent.
But.
That a bunch of other people that are against Israel in the US are now apologists for Islam itself.
So, this is a nightmare combination.
And I can't believe the Muslims are running circles around us.
And then, most of our viewers are super smart.
But when I see videos I post to X or even Rumble, when I'm giving nuanced stuff, they don't even know what I'm talking about because it's either are you for Israel or are you for the Muslims?
And I'm saying it's way more sophisticated than that.
The crusades by Christians were counter crusades against the Muslim invasion and conquest and subjugation, of course, but that's not taught at Harvard, as you well know.
What's the solution to this problem?
The only solution to this, there's only two solutions.
The first one is a nightmare scenario because it'll draw the entire world into a nuclear exchange.
It'll be the end of civilization as we know it.
The only solution is to stop the war immediately and stop the bombing of Iran immediately.
I don't care what in the world it takes.
Who's ever dropping those bombs has to be stopped.
That is not going to end this.
It's going to escalate and bring others into the war.
So, whether it's Israel or the United States dropping bombs on Tehran right now, it's the stupidest thing that you could imagine.
Killing civilians now in Tehran?
That's going to bring the world to peace?
Impossible.
It won't happen.
But you know, you said something earlier that, of course, I've been saying as well for weeks now.
The Japanese would not give in because they believed in Bushido, the art of honor.
They'd rather die than give up, the Japanese warrior.
And I said the Islamists have a similar mindset based upon a different set of principles, a religious set of principles, and they're also not going to give up.
So, how did Japan finally be brought to subjugation?
It wasn't through negotiation.
It was through bombing Hiroshima.
They didn't give up anyway.
What happened?
He dropped another bomb.
Nutruen dropped another bomb on Nagasaki.
Horrible.
How many civilians were incinerated?
100,000 at one time.
Men, women, and children burned up in these paper houses in Tokyo, in Hiroshima.
They were burned alive, incinerated.
So now let's go to Germany under Hitler.
The Germans didn't want to give up either.
They lost their great navy, some of the greatest ships ever built.
They lost their great air force, destroyed by our great American heroes.
What did they do?
Did they give up to Americans?
No, they didn't.
The Russians had to invade on land, Berlin.
200,000, or I think it's 400,000, Russians died taking Berlin after everything else had been destroyed in the military, all of the other military resources had been destroyed of Germany.
400,000 died, Russians.
Russians fighting in the rubble of Berlin until they finally gave up.
So when you're dealing with fanatics, it's very hard for we civilized people to understand how to even engage in a conversation about this.
I'm not a fanatic, and I don't think you are either.
We're strong willed.
We have great beliefs.
We believe in God.
We believe in civilization.
We believe in our nation.
We believe in our borders, language, and culture.
But we're not fanatic about it.
We are dealing with fanatics in Iran, Alex, and we don't understand how they think.
We can only project how they think, but they laugh at us for even trying to think how they think.
They don't think the way we do, they have no regard for human life, whatever, which is why they'll put military targets inside mosques, schools, and hospitals, because they don't care who gets killed around them.
In fact, Netanyahu is pretty much a moderate now compared to what's happened in Israel.
I don't even call it right wing.
It's, like you said, it's very messianic, it's into the world.
And so, just like the mullahs are out of their minds, they've now gotten the most radical are in control, and there's nobody even questioning in these meetings.
Well, not in the meetings, but in the Israeli world, there are four star generals who are war heroes who could step in and save their nation from this path of destruction.
Well, in credits to Tucker Carlson, I don't know if you saw his BB expose, but he interviewed all the former intelligence chiefs and a bunch of generals saying, This is what you said six months ago.
You know, he hasn't taken care of himself like you have.
When you make statements like this, it sounds like a supervillain, which is a gift to Islam.
A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again.
And thank God he backed off of this, which is a lesser of evils, but then it's also harmfully backed off because it looks weak, but that's better than doing this.
Yeah, the way to defend Trump is to have the West come back and Western values shut down our borders, get back to free market and be the pillars of the future.
And win through that and isolate the cancer.
Going to war with it this way has empowered it while the left brings them in in record numbers and turns them into victims.
And they're spending their money buying off our people.
You've got to outlaw that.
We have a horrible Justice Department that won't do it.
Any of this foreign money, I don't care who it's from, needs to stop.
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Well, Owen Benjamin is a really funny comedian, smart guy, very popular talk show host.
He's written How to Slay a Wizard, How to Get Out of the Mind Control.
That's coming up.
But right now, I want to just hear a few minutes of myself this morning, kind of predicting what was happening.
The ceasefire has fallen through.
They're now saying UAE, United Arab Emirates, Barrage, 200 N9 fighters have been bombing their oil fields all over Iran.
The whole thing's disintegrated.
Israel's blowing up Lebanon.
Promises to continue on.
Trump is not in control.
This is a complete disaster.
You just heard Michael Savage, no fan of the mullahs, saying this war he's in right now.
Israel's getting ready to probably nuke.
I mean, this is bonker town.
And I saw the neocons on X this morning.
Well, then attacking me, going, You don't know what's going on.
You don't know what's happening.
Buddy, you don't know anything.
And you've shown that, okay?
This is all I do.
It's so ridiculous.
I've called this all.
It was so easy to call.
It's all been wargamed.
Do you even know what a wargame is?
Do you know what the RAND Corporation is?
Do you know what the Army War College is?
Do you know any of that?
No, you know how to sit there and get us into a disaster, you idiot.
You moron.
Let's go to a clip of me this morning.
So, did the United States lose the war with Iran?
Did Israel lose the war with Iran?
That's what Iran's saying.
That's what a lot of analysts are saying because Trump accepted this ceasefire for them to open the Strait of Hormuz.
I'll answer that question.
Iran's saying things that aren't true.
The U.S. is saying things that aren't true.
I just spent a couple hours last night and today making calls, reading over the documents.
JD Vance back channel through Pakistan was able to get them to tacitly accept some of Trump's points.
Trump accepted some of theirs, but it's only a ceasefire for now.
Now, Fox News tried to deceive everybody, low information viewers, many of them, and so do the bots and influencers on X, that, oh, This is a great victory.
Iran accepted all of the points.
No, they didn't.
They're also spinning it that Iran violated the ceasefire because they're still shooting missiles at Israel and some of the other neighbors that have U.S. bases in them.
That's because Israel said last night, Netanyahu said last night, you can look at it on X, that Israel's going to keep bombing.
And so the ceasefire is only that the U.S. will stop bombing Iran for now and that they will open the Strait of Hormuz for now.
So Iran did not win.
The United States did not get its objectives.
And I would imagine, I hope it's not the case.
That this ceasefire will fall apart very, very quickly.
But Trump had such a disastrous response to the polling numbers and from even Republicans in the Congress when he was saying, We'll destroy your civilization tonight.
And clearly, the definition of genocide will never come back.
There was such a backlash that Trump listened to Vance and Tulsi Gabbard and pulled back for now.
So, this is a pause in the insanity.
And bottom line, the Iranians can keep a straight close indefinitely unless there's regime change.
Trump now knows he was lodged with Mark Levin.
Now, for all the neocons, Declaring victory and saying Trump played 85,000 D chess and that we got a peace deal and that's why he threatened him and everything.
Mark Levin was beside himself last night.
The clips are on X. I'll post it.
We're all shown saying we basically lost.
This is a capitulation.
This is terrible.
We've got to fight for the last American because, you know, he's Jonathan Pollard 2.0 and he's just totally freaking out.
And so are the neocons and so is the Israel lobby.
So for all of you declaring, see, Alex, it was good to say we'll destroy their whole civilization and why we'll use nukes.
See, they gave in.
No.
They came a couple steps forward, but Trump made the main step forward, and now they've opened the Strait of Hormuz for now.
So this is just a pause, just like the other Korean War.
The war never ended, just became a ceasefire.
Well, it's held for 60 plus years.
So we will see how long this holds forever.
But this is far from over.
So obviously, oil hit $150 a barrel yesterday.
There was a few more minutes left, Seattle next.
I couldn't predict it.
I think the ceasefire would fall apart.
By the time I got out of the car, it's 7 45 in the office, it had already fallen apart.
And the Iranians have closed the strait again.
That's official, but Caroline Levin says they didn't.
I mean, I've never seen such disinformation on the White House.
But this, at the higher level, the 100,000 foot level, is about the great reset.
It's about derailing the global economy.
It's what BlackRock wants.
It's COVID 2.0.
I'm the first to say that.
Many other economists are not saying that.
Catherine Austin Fish, you name it.
Joining us for the balance of the hour, maybe even longer into the fourth, we can hit some other topics as well.
Maybe take some calls if he does that.
Owen Benjamin, known him a long time.
Used to be in movies, a bunch of other stuff.
Got sick of it.
Moved up to North Idaho.
He's a popular comedian.
Podcaster.
He's got a new book out that I can't wait to read as soon as I get some time.
And we'll show you that right now.
It's How to Slay a Wizard, not just How to Slay a Dragon.
And he's talking about a literal Gandalf.
He means the globalist manipulators.
And so it's available for free on Amazon.
Well, that's nice.
And ladle.tv, owenbenjamin.com, ladle, L A D L E.TV, and at owenbenjaminonx.
So a lot to talk about.
Obviously, we should get your take up front.
On the Iran crisis, Trump, what he's turned into.
I mean, he wasn't perfect before, but man, he's really in the last eight months like a fruit rotting on your table, has worms all over it now.
Then you want to get into NASA and the moon mission, Artemis II, nuclear bombs, what makes science special, how it relates to Christianity versus the Phariseeism, what is a wizard, tools a wizard, hypnotic language, weaponized tension, three stage response, the one lie, psychological prediction.
Wizard spells in plain sight, what is 4D chess, words and other definitions, people's names, and the Wizard of Oz, and why Owen's book, How to Say a Wizard, is number one in rhetoric.
And I think my take on all this right now is it's the best time to talk about wizard spells and word magic because what you were just talking about Trump kind of falling apart, that's the inevitable outcome of wizardry.
The lies overtake people and then they become complete inversions of themselves, where it's actually structured like a joke, which is why my comedic background is kind of interesting for predicting and talking about world events.
Yeah, what I find so strange is the normalization of this wizardry as far as like the art of the deal.
Like, I'll point out how insane he sounds, and people will say, Oh, it's just a negotiating tactic.
He's just moving the anchor price, the Overton window, and all that stuff.
And it's that comfort with wizardry leads America down the road of low trust, where liars won't work anymore.
It becomes actually very tedious, they become very hated.
And my father was a professor of rhetoric, and I studied tyrannical government takeovers in the Czech Republic.
Like, that was my major in college.
Like, I've been very interested in this stuff my whole life.
And my dad taught, he did a keynote speech once in Hiroshima, and we can talk about nuclear bombs.
I think that's a great topic to get right into.
And I was taught that nuclear bombs have this fallout radiation for billions and billions of years and thousands of years, and it'll poison the lakes and the streams and it ruins the world.
And I remember being terrified that my dad was going to go give a keynote speech in Hiroshima about rhetoric.
And everyone was like, no, it's fine now.
It's fine.
There's no problem.
But isn't what about the nuclear bomb?
And that kind of led me down the road of how spells control countries and people's minds and this constant threat of terror of like someone can hit a button and the world ends.
It just becomes extremely manipulative.
And people actually get really mad at you when you break the spell because their identity gets so tied in with the fear.
Yeah, uranium is extremely threatening to the global order, and it's very valuable because it threatens the oil, petrodollar, and all that because it's phenomenal.
Nuclear power just boils water and turns turbines.
But, like, take, for example, Japan, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki.
I saw the wizard, I heard you talking about Mark Levin.
And, guys, you can pull up graphs showing the power of Fat Man Little Boy.
Just pull up graphs showing the power of Fat Man Little Boy versus modern hydrogen bombs.
If you look at, and I've seen the graphs, So, overhead shot, I'll just give you, since they can't pull up a graph, I'll be able to do it in a minute myself.
And then the circle of a modern hydrogen bomb, depending on the size, would be a circle all around this entire building.
That's how much more powerful.
Now, these were also built to be clean atomic bombs in the fission process.
And most of the ones we have are clean now.
They have a thing called a dirty bomb or a doomsday bomb where you jacket it in something like cobalt.
And then it is a trim radioactive.
That's why Hiroshima or Nagasaki is nothing compared to a Chernobyl or a Fukushima, because that's a meltdown in a reactor.
And I knew a guy who was a submarine captain that ran the government's submarine rescue boats.
And they just had a small leak and it killed a few years later, killed a lot of people that were around it.
With horrible cancers.
But yeah, here's a graph.
Give me an idea.
So yeah, they definitely use the fear of this to get us in line.
But here's the deal.
You know why, in the studies, even with above ground, there's not a ton of radiation even a few days later, other than some fallout.
When you detonate an atomic bomb or hydrogen bomb in an air burst, when the chain reaction is happening, that's the big white ball you see, and then the blast goes down and destroys the ground.
That's just a fire blast, and then it rises up into a mushroom cloud.
That is because there's no metal that it combines with.
But if you drop a hydrogen or atomic bomb on the ground, Every type of metal it combines with, not just cobalt, but a bunch of others, creates.
I mean, just a few pounds of cobalt in a hydrogen bomb going off is like dozens of Fukushima.
So I think that's where the confusion here happens.
Nuclear weapons are very clean compared to nuclear reactors.
Like everything you just said, where'd you get that information from that cobalt, you know, mixes with all this stuff and gets filthy and magnifies into the mega blast and all that?
That's how they can tell where something was made, what it was done, what's melting down.
That's how they know when a reactor in France is having problems.
Private scientists can show it.
They know what the fuel is, they know what's going on.
Max Planck, by about 1895, wrote the equations for atomic bombs.
And then later, quantum mechanics and physicists picked it up and got popularized as the inventors of it.
But that was taken from theoretical to action with the Manhattan Project.
But these equations is how we have all the other science.
And really, the atomic systems are tinker toys compared to all the fission fusion and superconducting supercolliders and the particle research that has been done.
So people can argue with the theoretical mathematics of it, but it's been expanded out and duplicated in much of the sciences we see today.
See, this is the thing I see that you're touching on what I consider wizardry because science, the miracle of science is that you can independently verify things for yourself.
It's very similar to what Jesus' message was to the Pharisee, where you don't need a special boy hat and bloodline to connect or commune with God.
It's where two or three gather my name.
Science is like that, where you make empirical observations, you get a hypothesis, you set up a controlled experiment, you theorize, and then you encourage your friends and people you respect to rip it apart.
To see if it works.
And over time, it may or may not become a law.
The whole trust me, bro science, where it's like, trust the science, Max Planck, he scribbled nonsense on a chalkboard.
I was raised by academics.
My father went to Oxford.
I've been around these people my whole life, and it's about manipulation.
And you can see it with trust the science of transgenderism, trust the science of global warming.
And so, you know, the trauma rituals of being under your desk.
Because what they figured out is when you survive bombings, you actually get stronger.
You know, they figured this out with the Blitz in London, where when the Germans had dropped a bunch of bombs, the most psychologically traumatized people would be over the hill from it, where they could kind of invent these stories in their head.
If you actually survive war, many times they would lose the fear of death and they would become actually very hard to conquer.
And so this has been a, this is kind of like how you get someone docile to the point of giving up a Before there's even a fight.
Yeah, a wizard, by the definition, is they require concealment and they thrive on keeping the audience from seeing what they're doing versus somebody that's just doing rhetoric.
Rhetoric is just the emotional component of a message, but wizardry creates a whole fake world of lies upon lies.
And they borrow power with credibility, with charged words.
Like they'll take a word and they'll charge it kind of like science.
Like science is an amazing miracle, you know?
And then they'll start using that word to do their nonsense.
They'll be like, well, it's just the science that COVID that you have to have your mask on while you're walking into a restaurant and then you get to take it off to eat unless you're gay.
And then you get to go on a, or a long lives matter.
Bro, the funniest wizardry out of Fauci is AIDS because, like, people always forget that Fauci was the AIDS guy.
And if you look at the mascots of AIDS, dude, this is when it just becomes comedy.
It's like you have Magic Johnson, which literally means like wizard penis, like a magical Johnson, and Greg Lou Ganis.
And people forget that.
And so while they were rolling out AIDS, people also forget, and I have this on Ladle, I documented all of it.
There was a diet pill called AIDS.
That would, it was A Y D S that they would play simultaneously as they're scaring the world about AIDS.
They're like, look at Magical Johnson.
And then they'd be like, the next commercial would be like, hey, Deborah, you look really thin.
And she's like, it's AIDS.
And so I named that polarity seating where you get these two hyper contradicting things in the zeitgeist at the same time because the whole point is to get your mind to kind of start spinning the wheel like on a computer so you buffer.
And then, like, the whole goal is to detach the living man from his own senses and his own soul, and then seek authority in whoever is messing with your head.
And that, because a wizard has no power without the living man choosing to give them power.
When you do abracadabra, when you start just creating things with people's emotional reactions, you manipulate trust.
Because what made America great is the high trust, high charity, high logos, high logic, where people trust each other enough where they can help each other when you're down and you work through problems.
And I know usually when I come on the show, I talk about farming and I can.
It almost seems idealistic, and I'm this optimistic guy.
It's actually very dark.
I mean, it's like what I see possibly coming is absolutely horrifying.
I just try not to jack people's cortisol.
Wizardry leads to absolute famine, and that's what I studied in Eastern Europe in college, where lies get to a point when you're not bringing in the fertilizer.
Lies get to a point where there's so much corruption that there's no food in the stores.
And most genocide isn't by, um, You know, most genocide isn't these bombs or AIDS.
That's why, because when you have that ability to hear something that goes against your identity, because I piss off a lot of people because their identity gets tied to a wizard spell.
And it's not even that I'm going at them, I'm going at the spell.
One classic spell to get someone docile is this is the greatest achievement that's ever happened, and you'll never do it again.
And we'll go back in the future, just hold tight.
And so, I'll make fun of the moon landing and call the moon lander like a meth heads tree for it or just something funny.
And people act like I'm attacking their grandfather, you know, kind of like a second ago when you were saying, you know, I have relatives that worked on the Manhattan Project.
I mean, one of my best friend's grandfather helped build the moon rover and worked with Werner von Braun, you know, and it's like, And it's like, I'm not interested in that.
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The information war is accelerating.
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In the heart of what was once the rugged, unyielding Republic of Texas, Governor Greg Abbott stands exposed as a willing participant in the quiet handover of the Lone Star State.
Abbott's recent directive freezing new H 1B petitions for state agencies and universities now rings hollow.
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Governor Abbott made the announcement directing all public universities and state agencies.
To freeze new H 1B visa applications.
Governor Abbott was on the Mark Davis radio show talking about his plan.
What job is it in our public schools in the state of Texas that these H 1B visas personnel are fulfilling that we can't fulfill here in our own public schools?
I mean, those are exactly the types of questions that we're looking at.
Now, I wanted to come to this area because as you guys can see, behind me, this is a residential area and you have this very large, very intricate temple that is, um, in this location where you quite frankly would not expect it.
And one of the first things I saw when we got here was a huge pile of shoes outside because you cannot wear shoes inside the temple.
So you have a lot of people that are walking around this area barefoot.
And I actually went inside myself because I wanted to go check it out.
And when you get inside, you see people worshiping multiple deities.
And the one that did stick out to me was the area where people were going to pray for, uh, Blessings of health and also for work visas.
Now we're in Frisco, Texas, and going back to that changing demographic, back in 2010, you had about 10% Asian or Indian population in this area.
That has since surged to over 30%.
And on top of that, Texans telling me as well that some of these school districts now primarily are made up of demographically Asian students.
So this is one of the ways that the culture is changing up here.
You have multiple Hindu temples all over the DFW area.
The H 1B program landed in Texas with the 1990 Immigration Act.
Sold as a narrow fix for specialized skill shortages, what followed was a flood, especially from India, turning tech corridors and booming suburbs into outposts of chain migration and wage arbitrage.
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I came here on H1B 2004.
Everybody was Americans.
But the fast forward now, you don't see any Americans.
Where are you from?
Hyderabad.
I'm from India.
Where in India?
Hyderabad?
Why do you think Frisco became such a big hub for Indians?
Well, the higher you go up in the wizard pyramid, the more hollowed out, vacated, and pathetic they get.
So, and what you were talking about, you know, what's coming down the pipe during COVID, instead of do not comply, I was always saying do not rely.
Because the thing that the wizard always relies on is you needing them for something.
And that's how, you know, we saw that in Gaza.
Like what happens when a group of people is completely reliant on another group that doesn't like them for their water, their food, and everything.
And so the key is to not allow yourself to get to that point.
And it starts very simply where that's why I have ladle TV and a well and I grow my own food is because I realize that the only thing they have over you is fine.
Then you don't get to use PayPal.
Then you don't get to be on Twitter.
Then you don't.
Get to come to our fun sodomy parties.
And I'm like, all right, I'm done.
I don't want to go to any of your things.
And so it's kind of, it can be tiring.
It can get intense, but it's a lot more exhausting to live in cognitive dissonance and live a lie and just always be a little nervous and scared that the person driving the car that you rely on hates you, you know?
But that's what I'm saying is, and I do think it's interdimensional.
For really the first to say that on a big platform years ago, decades ago.
But now Congress is saying that although they come here interdimensionally and they now have a confirmed DMT test, private firms, government, where people are having the same DMT hallucinations at the same time, the laser test, where you see the code of the matrix.
I mean, there is a lot of wild stuff happening.
And regardless, there's about to be a lot of disclosure, but I think a lot of fake disclosure mixed in with it.
And so, I think a lot of times what people call schizophrenia or some of these mental illnesses are there, like, you know, their tuning fork is a little tweaked so that they're kind of picking up on these other realms, you know?
Like, the higher echelons of these demons would give.
Uh, would give their victims something that would profit them in this world, like some kind of uh technology or information that would get them short term money.
But long term, they hate people, you know, and they they want your destruction, it never ends well.
But they'll they'll juice you up in order to try and get people to humiliate themselves.
And they love trauma because you know, an embodied man or woman, like someone that has coherence, like they think they say and they do the same thing.
Yeah, you were criticizing Israel like 10 years ago and it wasn't popular and it wasn't safe to do.
I've noticed I watched your show some.
You've kind of gotten away from that, but I've heard you say it's because it's already everybody else is already doing it.
Plus, there is this thing where all these other low IQ people come in and they then just ascribe everything to it, and it just becomes like a mindless one up thing.
Or I'm trying to quantify what I've heard you say.
Where are you on the whole situation with Israel?
Because I mean, I never thought Israel ran everything, but now it's trying to run our foreign policy and it's openly trying to censor us and coming after me.
And it seems to get more power the more opposite.
Like Iran gets more power the more they get attacked.
It seems like Netanyahu knows what he's maneuvered Israel into.
But yeah, I mean, my thing forever has been I want people to be able to make their own choices.
And when people weren't aware of AIPAC or the Sackler family or Teva Pharmaceuticals or Israel's role in the government or quote unquote Jewish liability shields, the permanent victim stuff, I was trying to wake people up to that.
I wasn't trying to get people to blame their problems on Jews or Israel.
You know, it's because it's kind of like America.
It almost makes us feel, it makes us seem like we're the child and Israel's the father, you know, and they're not.
And so I don't blame Israel for anything.
I just wanted people to be aware of that.
And that's why I got so much backlash because, as I said earlier, the wizard requires you to not know that there's not really a rabbit in the head.
And so I think what we're seeing out of the Israelis and the Zionist stuff.
Is a panic because their influence requires to be hidden.
Like you can't do it in public or else it doesn't work.
Like it has to be, you know, it has to be the whisper.
Well, that's what Tucker said reading all the different Epstein files.
People, of course, sack him.
Oh, now you're covering for Israel.
It's like, no, it's the Rothschilds and then some other big rich people and Epstein telling Israel what to do.
That's what I kept explaining, folks.
It's like Israel's like this detonator for all this.
But then you got the Rothschilds that are anti Netanyahu at one level, but really aren't.
But you read that, and it's like Epstein was the trilateral commission in the chair of David Rockefeller that created it and literally was way more powerful than I even thought.
I mean, a lot of these Israelis that we, that a lot of the people see as these all powerful, you know, people, they're, they're, they're the lap dogs.
They're the, the dogs on a leash, you know, and they're very easy to control because their, their appetites are so low.
And I got a theory for you.
This is not like a fact.
This is just a theory.
I think part of this might be a civil war in the Rothschild family because there was, you know, the references to the Rothschilds in the release, you know, there, there has to be someone.
In the Rothschild family doing that because they wouldn't allow that, you know?
And so, well, like you said, though, they're not all powerful.
People don't know the Rothschilds took over the British Empire.
They already controlled all the major banks in Europe.
Excuse me.
At the Battle of Waterloo in 1815 or whatever it was, they said Britain had lost, that Lord Wellington had lost, the stock market crashed 99%.
They bought it up.
That's historical mainline history.
So they now controlled the British Empire that was the dominant force in the world.
And so then they got mega powerful.
And so it really is.
A powerful inbred Jewish family that is the most powerful still.
But it even shows at the end, they're so inbred and so down the line that their manager, their emissary, was Jeffrey Epstein.
And because he worked at that pedophile school with Bill Barr's dad, who wrote the books about raping kids and how great it is science fiction books about planets of slave children kidnapped from Earth, he then was brought in as a manager.
And just like he was brought in as David's stand in, trained by him in.
1990, when he's 30 something years old, he's brought in and he talks about all this.
It turned out it's in the documents, and a lot of it was public.
We weren't looking at it.
He wasn't just working for David Rockefeller, he became the legate or the spokesman of him.
And as he got older and older, and it just turns out once all the Rothschilds are inbred and been rich for dozens of generations, and same thing with the Rockefellers, Epstein was just, he was like the butler for these guys, but because they were all so decadent, he actually became them.
He actually became the guy.
It's wild.
Like you said, the higher up you get, I know people, a lot of them, but also a lot of people that know a lot of people.
And it's come up the Depots, how they're all decadent and crazy and rich.
They're almost all trannies or devil worshipers.
Most of their kids commit suicide.
It's like that for all these so called elites.
They are in hell.
They are trying to project their own demonic sickness onto us.
It's not just they want to hurt us, which they do, they're just trying to get us drink the same poison they did.
And it's like the love of money is the root of all evil.
They're so inbred because they don't want to lose any money.
That's why they marry their cousins and nieces and nephews and become like such freaks.
And yeah, I think the elites would disappoint a lot of people.
Like if you actually talk to them, they're not as smart as you think.
They're not as, you know, powerful.
They have crippling addictions.
Their kids hate them.
They're cursed.
A lot of them are very, very cursed.
And speaking of wizardry, think about how funny it is that Barr and Epstein, like that's what the herpes virus is called Epstein Barr.
And I always just think little things like that are like little winks.
There's comedy in this that you can't write, like Bernie made off with your money, Ellen Degenerate, you know, Magic Johnson.
It's like Epstein Barr.
It just happens over and over and over again, where it's almost like, you know, the Federal Reserve is started by a guy called Warburg.
You know, it's almost like you get more wizard points if it says what you are in your name and people still agree with you, where it's like, oh, that's less her magic.
And so I think, yeah, I think if your name says what you are, where it's like, you know, Bernie made off with your money, it's like, I think that they get more.
And then I figured out that there is a sexualization to wizardry where to get these images and these words in your head where you don't really realize it.
Like right now, two of the astronauts in Artemis are named Cox and Glover.
And it's like Cox Glover.
It's like, you know, you're like saying Cox Glover, you know?
Like the bull and the bear is some ancient, ancient pagan stuff, you know?
It's like, here comes the bull, here's the bear.
And as someone now, like doing animal husbandry has changed the way I see everything because the wizards view us like animals and they're farming our consciousness with word spells and they're doing crop rotation, our feed, you know, you have a feed trough.
Our feed is Twitter.
Here's your feed for your consciousness, you know?
And I think we're in a revelatory state, and the cards are being laid on the table, and everyone's seeing who really was wearing underpants and who wasn't.
And kind of like what you said earlier about how I was warning people about this stuff 10 years ago, I feel a lot better now because I used to be, I felt a lot more like ostracized.
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And now I don't have that tension as much.
And so I just feel a lot more comfortable, you know, even though we're facing a lot of problems, I don't feel like there's as much tension with the world at work.
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I'm going to hand the baton over to him.
I'll be listening while I take care of business around here, but I want him to be able to run with some of the stuff he sent.
He sent compilations of showing how crazy NASA is and how they're full of it and got caught destroying all the evidence, what they really did at the moon and more.
It ties into Artemis, too.
I also want him to get into what is 40 chess in his definition and more coming up with Owen Benjamin.
Owen, big picture, what do you make of Trump?
Because all I got was lawsuits and hell for supporting him.
So I thought, well, he must be good because I'm being attacked by the system.
I came out of the CIA Justice Department.
Ran all this fake lawsuits against me, all of it.
And I knew he wasn't perfect, but overall, it was good.
But now, this new administration, soon as Elon Musk left, I could go on for hours all the bad decisions.
And now it's just totally insane.
I mean, what did he think saying, I'll destroy you all, I'll kill you all, open the effing straight, a la Akbar, a whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again, which is bad enough.
Then he backs off, and then it's a total screw job deal, which makes us look like fools.
But that's better than continuing deeper into the war.
It just looks like we already talked about a total trap here.
What happens, do you think, with the midterms?
And just because, as much as we all get mad at Trump for his betrayals, the Democrats and the left worldwide is the leading edge of the wizards, I'd say.
No, I mean, yeah, I mean, what I see happening with Trump is it's almost like when the system was coming at him, it was for nonsense reasons.
And I'm with you.
I was kind of like, I was backing him for those specific things because I felt like they were gaslighting him.
They were doing wizardry against him.
They were trying to reframe his words into something he didn't say.
And now that he's actually doing a bunch of monstrous stuff, it's almost like they don't have any more ammunition because they already did all that stuff.
And so, yeah, I thought that that was insane.
As a comedian, I mean, he's kind of like a comedian in a way.
And you can't talk that way as a president, it just doesn't work.
We were defending the truth because almost all the time he was telling the truth and trying to do something good.
They were lying about him.
Oh, he hates all the Mexicans.
Oh, he says the KKK are fine people, speaking of wizards.
He didn't say any of that.
So we would defend him because they were lying.
But it was almost like not like he was involved, but a setup the way they did it to get us to Pavlovianly defend him because it was wrong so he could then do the double cross.
And I think narcissism really builds as a defense mechanism because he was getting rocked.
And just being in any lawsuit, you learn how stressful that is.
And it's like, When you're getting attacked that much, sometimes people do create this delusion bubble where they don't let anyone around them that they think is a threat.
And so everybody starts being a yes man.
And then they plunge into insanity.
And then you have all these, you know, these warmongers just whispering everything he wants to hear in his ears.
And he's probably, he probably had a lot of trauma from that stuff.
Yeah, because you start, that's how, that's what creates delusion bubbles and narcissistic personality disorder.
It's not just out of nowhere.
It's because you just get so hammered.
You're like, okay, I have to believe in myself no matter what.
Like the truth comes from me.
Anyone who criticizes me is a threat.
And then you start, that's what King Lear by Shakespeare is about.
It's about not, you start not realizing who your real threats are and who your friends are because you can't have anyone around you that you think could do these things to you.
And that's why, you know, he was kind of brainwashed.
Over the last eight years, where, you know, people came at him so relentlessly that now we're seeing this like partial dementia come from it.
Well, it's like when you drop nuclear bombs on Godzilla, he goes crazy.
And I'm not even trying to defend Trump.
That is what it is.
He's not a bad person.
But at the end of the day, he went crazy.
I mean, I would be 10 times crazier at 79 when he's been through him.
It's just, it's true.
I mean, it's just, he's not Superman.
And he has gone, I don't give an F cuckoo.
And we'll sit back in 60 seconds.
William Shakespeare wrote King Lear.
And I haven't read it in decades.
I saw a movie about it decades ago, too.
But when you describe Trump, this is it.
King Lear is a Shakespearean tragedy about an aging king who divides his kingdom between his two flattering daughters, Goneril and Reagan, banishing his honest youngest daughter, Cordelia, for refusing to flatter him.
The play follows Lear's descent into madness as his daughters betray him and then the kingdom just gets destroyed, basically.
And that's what's happening with Trump.
They just literally.
Like a cartoon in front of him.
And then the people that won't, Tulsi Gabbard and people, he almost fired her last week.
Now he figured, oh no, now she's good.
It's once the man, twice the child, to quote Shakespeare again.
I think we're having early onset of dementia here.
If he took some time off, got out of sleep deprivation, I think he can pull back.
He is a bull, he has incredible stamina, but this is a disaster if he continues to degenerate.
Any ideas about how to get through to Trump or get him out of this, or is it just too late?
And if you just look at King Lear and the flatterer, and that's why in the past, when I was trying to tell people the truth, and you face this as well, and they get really mad at you, and I'm like, this is how I show love.
Like, you don't want me to just say what I think you want to hear, because that's actually how you ruin somebody.
That's the tyrannical mother, that's the tyrannical feminine, you know?
And when you talk about Saturn worship and Saturnism, the smothering mothers.
You know, I know top Trump advisors that told me, Hey, what you're doing is great attacking him, but I'm going to have to attack you just because they've asked me, Hey, I'm friends with you.
That way I still get access.
But then they buy TV ads just in Mar-Lago on Fox and in D.C. You know, she don't have to pay the national rates, like a one-hundredth or whatever, just to target political ads because that's what he believes, whatever he sees on Fox.
They're Saturn eating his son.
So, so on screen.
So, a Renaissance painting.
So, that's literally what this is is that now, because used to Trump like to be argued with and stuff.
Now, the new one, he does not want to hear anything contrary.
Five minutes of you're the best, you're wonderful, you're so incredible.
He'd call my wife up and tell her that.
And that was like my payment was this ego thing.
Well, I'm not into that.
I'd be like, sir, this person's bad.
They're doing this, sir.
Can I send you this?
And he would listen sometimes, and I'd send him reports.
Then they got really upset about it.
It was in the news.
But he got to this point where he told someone that's close to him a couple of years ago, he says, I don't want to effing hear from him again because he keeps bringing up the COVID shots.
But it was with everybody else, he would just scream at people if they brought up the COVID shot to him.
And Shakespeare couldn't write this stuff legally or you'd get hung, but he was compositing real stuff going on.
I mean, take the Sun King's court in France or whatever.
It was just total courtiers groveling, backstabbing.
And once this develops, this megalomania, if it's not transactional and if you're not doing this and if you're not getting something back, then he does, he thinks there's something wrong with you.
Louis XVI, what, 15% of Paris and France had their heads chopped off.
You know, it's like it ends really bad, you know, and that's why the truth will set you free.
And it's like, even if it hurts, you know, and that's why I say I might be wrong, but I'm not lying because I might be wrong, but I'm going to tell you what I think is true at that moment or else I'm poisoning you.
I always tell my crew the one thing you'll get fired for, the best crew ever, super hard work and put up with me, is don't keep bad news from me.
Don't glaze me.
Like, I want to be told when I say something wrong.
I want to be told when I'm out of control.
I want them to give me their opinion.
It may not be totally right.
They usually are, but I want that.
I don't want a bunch of yes men.
You know, Julius Caesar, when he became the emperor and everything, he had, this is in their books, it happened.
He had his aide.
Walk around behind him every hour or two saying, You're not a God, you're just a man.
Remember, don't let the power go to your head.
When he would ride in for the big triumphant deals after military victory, everybody's worshiping him, he had a person right behind him saying, You're not a God, you're not a God.
Remember, this is bad, you're in grave danger.
The more power you get, the more danger you're in.
Because he told him what to say, but he literally needed to be constantly reminded of it.
And one thing that happens to these guys is they're so used to the court.
They're so used to the wizard court where everyone's like praising and slathering and they want power that they don't, they forget about other social structures.
So, like, Caligula was killed by one of his Peturian guards because, like, Caligula would just be mocking everyone and lying and doing all his things and banging everyone.
Anything you want, just humiliation rituals, wizardry, all that stuff.
And one of his guards was like, Stop making fun of me.
Like, he was just like, his culture is honor culture.
And honor culture, that's why the stand up comedian is a very interesting position right now because we were the day walkers.
It's like, yeah, I've been in movies and TV shows, but my bread and butter is on a stage with like a crowd and I can't lose the honor, you know, or else I get eaten alive.
It's more gladiatorial than court.
And so, someone like me doesn't like if I'm getting slathered or if I'm like trying to kiss someone's ass, I feel like awkward and, and, Like, uncomfortable.
So if you show hesitation, like if you show that you're afraid or you're not in the flow state, they'll eat you alive.
And it's like that with, With honor culture.
And so that's like the military.
The military, that's why a lot of times these tyrannical kings that get sick in the head, usually a coup is what takes them out because the military isn't like the military's bread and butter is battlefield honor, physical strength.
And so they don't care if like Benny Johnson follows you on Twitter.
Like they think that's all ridiculous.
Like, same with stand up comedians.
Like, I think like a lot of these actor types are.
Absurd buffoons, you know, because they're like, they're like, you know, like obsessing about their skin tone and their abs and their tight jeans and stuff.
And I'm like, you haven't even thought about entertaining anybody.
Well, well, the sacred cows are just getting slaughtered and slaughtered because women deep down want stability and these things don't appear stable anymore.
Like, being anointed by the king doesn't mean anything like it once did.
Well, that's the last straw of why I don't go to Marlaga or the White House, I'm not afraid to be attacked by the establishment, but I go around, they come after whatever, they don't want me to be anointed, which I don't want to be either, but that somehow with the people that are anointed, they don't want that.
They still think that's the.
Like I see CNN, I saw all these clips on CNN going, Tucker Carlson's not very big, Alex Jones isn't very big, and I can go look at the numbers, we're way bigger than them.
I don't even care about that, but they're literally on all these TV shows with Democrat and Republican.
I saw like five clips this morning without even looking, saying, Oh, they're not important.
You know, the fact that they went after Trump, and this is CNN defending him, and the fact that Trump, you know, is backing off, he shouldn't listen to them because they have no power.
Because in the past, I've believed the spells before where I'm like, am I full of hate?
Like, I can be so open minded sometimes that a wizard will say something to me and I'll think about it.
Like, and then if I start changing that way, or if I'm like, because for me, my issue was like, I would feel threatened when I wasn't really threatened.
And then I could almost come across as more antagonistic, more volatile.
It's a computer program you've decided to stick in you.
And what I understand is when you make it all about the Jews, the ones on top have set it up where they get persecuted and then they get more power because the low level Jews don't know it.
And it's the same in every group.
It's like the black leaders literally trying to get blacks persecuted or hyping it up so they can play victim, so they can feed off them.
They're farming your victimhood, is what I'm saying.
He's supercharged like science, what we just talked about.
So science starts getting credibility and then the science becomes like the COVID rollout.
And the same thing is with the Jews.
I bet they jumped into the Jews because they were known for being like really literate or they were like pretty stable for like holding on to someone's gold a thousand years ago.
You know, there was something where they jumped into that group to then pace it, mimic it, and run it off.
A cliff, and that's how evil actually works.
And as soon as you think it's the Quakers or the Portuguese or whatever, it's always that's why these empires all come and go, then they get they come and go, they come and go.
It's like the you know, before the Rothschilds, it was the Habsburgs, and they were so incested that their jaws got insane.
And it's this idea that's why the Bible talks about you know them by their fruit, and also the love of money is the root of all evil.
Like, well, take the Rothschilds, they didn't want to be Jewish anymore when they crashed the British economy at the Battle of Waterloo, saying that the British had lost the war.
People looked that up, it's incredible history.
They got breeding rights to breed into the British family.
And they wanted to breed into the Saxe Coburg Gothas, a Transylvanian German inbred line of lunatics, the madness of King George III, literally.
They wanted, that was the ultimate goal to be British lords and breed into inbreds when they're already inbred themselves.
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The Ben Shapiro sister, the Dave Levin, Larry Loomer, like all these freaks, they just slather and butter up and praise the king.
And what does it allow the king to.
Not have their trauma triggered because of, you know, New York's district courts that have just been kind of trying to terrorize them for a long time.
Because kings have a very terrifying job.
You know, say what you will about the son, King Louis XIV, but unless you've seen a peasant revolt back in the day when people would hack each other into pieces, you really can't judge.
And so the narcissism is actually like a soothing agent.
It's almost like Novocaine for the soul.
There was a song by the Eels called Novocaine for the Soul where you kind of hit your max where you don't want to feel any of that anymore.
You don't want the fear, the pain, the doubt, the self doubt, the regret.
And so you switch it off and you just turn on like everything I do is great no matter what.
And that's a coping mechanism.
And it's actually extremely dangerous because it's like that disease where you can't feel physical pain is one of the most dangerous diseases you can have.
It sounds great, you know, like, oh, you fall down, you break your arm, you don't feel any pain, but you don't know when you're injured.
And when you're in that position, your injuries just get worse and worse and worse until you're, you know, until you lose the Strait of Hormuz.
It's Scotty, which is slang for Cheesehead Wisconsinite.
And we recently moved kind of like you did.
And I will open a new X account to talk to you about farming and greenhouses and all the like.
But what I really wanted to talk about was cancel culture and using humor, such as you do, and also Gavin McGinnis and JP Sears and even Hecklefish.
People get annoyed with the orange hacklefish and Wi Fi's.
Well, that's how you get your video as a parody not taken down, hopefully.
And I remember when they were going after you like crazy.
And what I admire is you mentally rope a dope people.
Someone gave me crap about using the term rope a dope.
Come on, that's Cassius Clay, Muhammad Ali, who said that first.
But you're mentally doing it.
And I appreciate your use of humor and very well word crafted etymology.
And I look forward to purchasing your book.
And I wanted to actually just ask you I know when you were going through some rough times, my brother said, I don't know what's up with Owen, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I said, Well, he's getting pummeled from all sides.
And it's like when Gavin McGinnis did How to Fight a Baby.
Oh my God.
It was hilarious.
Or something about Virgin on some video and how to be a man.
It's funny you bring up JP because JP's really turned up.
He's really escalated in a lot of really cool ways.
I showed him love on Twitter.
Because what happened to him is what kind of like what happened to me, where he did a joke, kind of like the rope it up thing you were just referring to.
And the people with that narcissistic wizard disease that me and Alex were talking about, they get furious when you make fun of them.
And so, you know, Erica Kirk, in my opinion, is in that position.
And so when they came at him, you have two options you either completely fold or you just keep going.
And he kept going.
And that's always what I wanted to see out of these comedians.
And so, thanks for the love, my friend.
And I hope you really enjoy the book.
And my mom is from Wisconsin.
It's a great place.
And thanks for calling in.
I got to get to a couple more callers, but you sound like a funny dude.
I have a question for the both of you and also a comment, or rather, I suppose it's a lead specifically for Alex.
So, just with regard to the comment briefly, Alex, I know back in 24 and 25, you were talking a lot about the FBI in New York sort of being the locus for where this Epstein cover up was really being run out of.
And so, I just wanted to let you know that there's a DOJ file that I mentioned in the Epstein files, which Contains an internal FBI email from some people in the counterintelligence unit.
They're in New York discussing how to handle the problem at Harvard and MIT.
So I just want to give you that file number so that you and your staff can be aware of it.
Congressman Massey has the file as well.
The number is EFTA00038124.
And again, that's an important file because the DOJ redacted the names of the FBI agents.
So if we can get those names redacted, we'd be able to figure out who in the FBI in New York was covering that up.
My question is given the fact that Bondi got fired last week and was supposed to testify on the 14th, it's just backed out.
Bill Gates has been subpoenaed as well.
So it seems like there's a lot of movement going on with this Epstein scandal.
So, you know, Owen, I would just be interested in hearing your view about what's going on with this scandal because it just doesn't seem to go away and it's not really behaving according to the way a lot of these psyops ordinarily do.
I mean, the psyop in this, there's psyops in this all over the place, but it's a real thing.
And something of this scale that gets revealed, because that's what we were talking about earlier.
Wizardry always ends at some point.
Like that, that, that, that, uh, something for nothing, abracadabra, you know, fiat, I create as I talk, that borrowing of credibility, the manipulation of emotion, that will always run out.
And eventually the Piper gets paid.
And so, What we're witnessing with this Epstein situation is such a massive thing that they couldn't stop it.
It has that feeling of a revelatory situation.
And so all the psyops we're witnessing, kind of like Trump being like, oh, you're still talking about that loser?
What are you, stupid?
Like that's the psyop, that's the manipulation.
And so I don't know where it's going.
I don't know which elements are absolute facts and which are lies.
I'm not behind that curtain, but from what I'm witnessing, we're just seeing a lot of, you know, bending and twisting around these black hole centers of narcissistic King Lear personalities.
And that's why I always just recommend people stay focused on what they can control, what they love, their local environment.
And that isn't running away, that isn't idealistic.
It's a survival mechanism.
And I think that, you know, even just planning a small amount of, Just having a small garden, it will give you that feeling of empowerment and that connection to the act divine that will help you get through anything.
Yeah, No, it feels like improv because in comedy, when you're doing improv, it's called yes and, where if you said something, the other person has to go with it no matter what.
It's like you're reacting.
You're reacting.
It's not like some of these things in the past, you'd see these well thought out scripts where this is this character and this is blah, blah, blah.
This feels very reactive.
And I think that what we're witnessing is just almost like a satanic.
The thing that's so striking to me is that typically, as you know, they seem to enjoy it like they're mocking us, but it doesn't seem to me that they're deriving any kind of enjoyment at all from this.
I'll make it kind of brief, but I just wanted to point out something very quickly for an idea for Alex, if you could pass it on.
On the side of the hat, okay, on the side of the hat, he should have the American flag, and on the other side of the hat, he should have the Betsy Ross flag in order to commemorate our 250th Republican anniversary of the United States of America.
One side, the small American.
Patch on the side of the hat, and on the other side, the Betsy Ross flag for 1776.
I just wanted to point that out, and I'll get to my point.
Thank you for having me on your show.
The thing is, Betrayus, about 15 years ago, was, I think, something to do with the army.
Commemorate one would be Betsy Ross, and the other one would be the United States of America now to commemorate our Republican anniversary of 250 years.
But as far as mushrooms go, the one that looks kind of like it, but is poisonous freaks me out so much that I have to get a lot better at it before I do it myself.
But I was listening to the show while I'm out here walking, and I just got to say, you know, I believe in wizard magic.
You're 100% on with that.
But I feel like Trump's been in on this from the get go.
I feel like the attacks were planned.
I feel like everything was staged.
It's nothing but a WWE show to get us all enticed and behind the candidate.
And it's like I told Harrison the other night.
They build us up.
They get all this hopium built up, and then they just pull the rug right out from under our feet, trying like crazy to get civil war in this country, whether they get it from the left or they get it from the right.
And I feel like we got to start a new plan.
This whole Democrat Republican Party is corrupted from the top down.
Even in Ohio, I mean, like our local chairman and stuff, it's a good old boys' club.
We need to flood this system with independent candidates.
And we need alternative media to get behind an independent candidate to where they stand a chance.
I mean, we've seen what RFK did under the independent ticket.
Trump was so scared that he was going to lose, he had to pull him into his administration.
I mean, that's how you get, that's how you actually do change is you have to get people excited about something like what you're doing with mushrooms right now.
It might sound crazy, but that's actually the way to do it.
So to get these like kind of more scripted WWE type people to, To see you as, I wouldn't say a threat, more like competition, something that they have to deal with.
It's all about productivity and not needing anything from them.
Because when you need something from them and you're committed to their script, they don't have to think about you.
The greasy wheel does get, you know, does get the most attention.
And as far as everyone being in on it, I wrestle with this all the time because I just always wonder how much of it is consciously aware.
Or are people like going with these scripts without even thinking about it?
And I've been trying to figure that out for so many years.
And because you're right, it looks like this vacuum cleaner of attention and louche and just like these scripts to get us hooked.
But like on what level?
And then you get into the spiritual realm and it's like, how many people are just kind of like just going along with whatever character they've been assigned?
No, no, I'm on board because I think that's how synchronicities can work.
When you're operating it, A similar frequency as someone else, things will just kind of like spontaneously happen to both of you in ways that I haven't, I don't have any other explanation except for just the concept of frequency.
Stream of consciousness and authenticity, as you were saying about where people will read you in a room when you're doing stand up.
It's authenticity and being honest with yourself and not just accepting something that's presented as a fact, but you don't know it for yourself through true science, as you were saying earlier.
No, authenticity is where it's at because that's all we can do.
Don't have perfect knowledge.
So it's like, that's why I always say I might be wrong, but I'm not lying because I'm not holding myself to the standard that I always have to be right because that's not possible.
So I'm just like, whatever I actually am, I try to stay coherent.
Like what I say, what I do, and what I think is all in line.
And when you do that, like you actually connect with other people versus when you're trying to do that wizard manipulation, there's like a cut.
There's like a It's like a break, and like in an electrical circuit, it would stop working at that point.
And so, yeah, I went through the school hard knocks with that with stand up comedy.
And oddly, it also is like the father with young kids, where if you're just kind of flowing with them, you just, I don't know, it just everything works.
But if you overthink it and you're always just because they're like little kids, they're just pure flow state, it doesn't work as well than when you're just totally yourself, you know?
And so, I think.
I think that whole realm is, we're going to learn more about it in the future because I think that the lies aren't working like they used to, you know?
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