WEDNESDAY FULL SHOW: Firestorm Erupts After DOJ’s Epstein Coverup, Experts Warn AI Now “Building Itself” & Will Change EVERYTHING, Senate Republicans Sabotage SAVE Act That Requires Citizenship To Vote! PLUS, Canadian School Shooter Identified As Transgender! Top Occult Researcher, Joey Pepperoni, Joins Infowars To Expose The FULL Kabalistic Equation On An Epstein Island Chalkboard That Was Revealed For The First Time In Recent Document Dump! Mark Mitchell Breaks Down His Latest Polling Results & Predicts W
Joey Pepperoni exposes Epstein’s occult chalkboard—SB00, a Kabbalistic "hybrid god" blueprint using digital twins, signal tuning, and genetic manipulation (e.g., Zorro Ranch egg harvesting) to control populations by 2026. Mike Lindell details MyPillow’s suppression after 2020 election fraud claims, including a $60M lawsuit framed as "disinformation," and his gubernatorial bid to enforce the SAVE Act (79% Democratic support) while targeting Minnesota’s missing $18B welfare funds. Mark Mitchell’s polling reveals 68% demand Epstein justice, yet Trump’s approval drops to 45%, exposing elite corruption and voter distrust—urging action before systemic collapse. [Automatically generated summary]
And suddenly, the SAVE Act, that beacon of voter integrity born of common sense, loses steam thanks to spineless politicians on both sides of the uniparty aisle playing footsie with the deep state.
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The SAVE Act is expected to be brought to the floor for a vote this week.
But no, we can't have the masses focusing on the actions of our overlords.
Instead, it's wall-to-wall coverage of the Savannah Guthrie kidnapping saga on Fox News and every other propaganda puppet show with regurgitated monotony.
But at least we at Infowars can talk about the sheer volume of dirt they're burying under this avalanche of sensationalism.
Listen to me, because this isn't a reality TV show.
This isn't entertainment.
If this is handled wrong, we will have the great reset, and you'll be lucky if you're eating bugs.
You'll probably be dead.
And of course, now it's come out.
Lex Wexner, as I told you 15 years ago, was the CIA Mossad MI6 mega spy chief running Epstein for George Herbert Walker Bush and Bill Barr, putting him on the trilateral commission when he's 30 years old on the commission, not just a subcommission.
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to The Alex Jones Show.
I'm your host, Harrison Smith.
Sitting in for Alex today, we've got a lot of great guests coming up.
Mike Lindell, Joey Pepperoni is going to explain to us some of what's been revealed in the Epstein files.
That, of course, is going to be probably the main topic of conversation today as it continues to dominate the headlines.
And we continue to get a lot of information out of the files released last Friday, the 3 million.
As we speak, Pam Bondi is being grilled in the Congress and Senate.
And I want to go to some of those videos here first.
We also have some around the world terrorism to discuss from the usual suspects, I guess you could say, a 13-year-old stabbing his classmates in the UK while yelling Allahu Akbar, as well as a mass murder in Canada by a transgender individual on handfuls of SSRIs.
So we'll talk about that as well.
We're going to be joined by Mike Lindell and Mark Mitchell of Rasmussen talk about the devastating effects that Trump's failure to move on Epstein is having with his poll numbers and his support and what that means for the midterms.
It's not looking good, folks.
And again, we've got just a ton of new information.
A lot of it positive for Trump, which is weird because he still seems to be avoiding this topic like the plague.
It's very weird.
It's very bizarre.
It's very inexplicable.
Although I think I have some suggestions as to what might be behind some of this.
But let's go to some of these clips from Pam Bondi where she's being asked about the Epstein files.
It got a little contentious, not in a good way.
And this is truly a bizarre situation to be in, not to beat a dead horse or anything.
But I do just want to remind you, again, that the Democrats have spent the last decade downplaying the entire concept of elite pedophilia.
So then to see them standing on a pedestal and questioning Pam Bondi about Jeffrey Epstein like they're the ones that care about this, it's just disingenuous enough to make you sick.
And even Axios and other liberal publications have to admit it.
Violent crime plummets across major U.S. cities was their headline today from Axios.
And it's actually funny.
The original tweet I clicked on, the original headline was like, you know, despite Trump's rhetoric, murder rate, violent crime has plummeted over the last year.
And it's like, what do you mean, despite Trump's rhetoric?
No, this is because of Trump's rhetoric, actually.
No, this is actually directly in line with Trump's rhetoric.
What are you talking about?
But essentially, they're trying to say that, you know, all this talk about violent crime is overblown because look how much it's going down.
It's like, no, it's going down like that because Trump has made it a priority.
Obviously, violent crime dropped sharply across America's biggest cities in 2025, according to new data reviewed by Axios.
The stats were yet another sign that violent crime in the U.S. was starkly different than what President Trump cited as his reason for sending federal troops to Chicago, Portland, Washington, D.C., Memphis, and other cities in California.
Yeah, wrap your mind around the liberal worldview.
It is just utter madness, pure unrelenting madness.
It just doesn't make any sense.
So it's an article about how these programs have caused a precipitous drop in violent crimes, but the way they're presenting it as if the drop in crimes therefore discredits the reason that the program was instituted in the first place, I think they might be dumb.
I think these people might just be very dumb or they're lying.
But either way, screw them.
But that's about the best that Bondi did, old AG Pam Bondi, in this hearing.
And it turned into a shrieking match for a lot of it.
Kind of embarrassing, if you ask me, even though the people that she's yelling at are literally the worst people in the world.
Okay, I'm talking Jerry Nadler, talking Ratcliffe.
What's that guy's name?
He looks like a rat.
Ratskin?
Is that his name?
His name is Ratskin?
Raskin.
Okay, Raskin.
Ratskin.
Maybe more appropriate.
I'm kidding, of course.
Yes, Jamie Raskin.
We know.
We know old Jamie.
He looks like a badly used steel wool sponge.
Let's go to clip number 43 here.
I just, I almost hesitate to go into these clips because they're very annoying.
And it's just another sign of our collapse that we can't have a congressional or Senate hearing without it just descending into cursing and name-calling and screeching at each other.
It's very embarrassing.
Here's A.G. Pambondi with what they call a generational takedown of insufferable rep Jerry Nadler.
So again, you know, she's like got this like fire and brimstone act going on.
And listen, don't get me wrong.
Jerry Nadler deserves every insult ever thrown at him, not defending Jerry Nadler in the slides.
She's right about the ridiculous attempts to impeach President Trump and all this.
She's exactly right about that.
It's just, I get a sense of the lady doth protest too much.
Just a bit of the outrage, the seeming righteous indignation.
It's just a little misplaced because, lady, you're a complete and utter failure.
I hate to let you know.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but for the last year, you have presided over a giant pot of absolutely nothing.
You have achieved absolutely nothing.
You have arrested absolutely none of the rampant criminals that still hold positions in our government in some cases.
You couldn't get the Comey indictment.
You didn't get indictments of anybody in Russia, despite the fact that we've known for the last decade at this point that these people flagrantly violated any number of laws.
They couldn't even get a grand jury indictment of the seditious six, which we'll get into in a little bit, because I think that's a whole other kettle of worms and problems and issues.
But it's like, it's a little bit too much because at the same time that she's, you know, talking about how we released the files and we're doing everything just right, the White House continues to completely stonewall any examination of the files.
Let's go to clip number 63 here.
This is White House spokeswoman Caroline Levitt yesterday when she's asked about the Epstein files.
And this call, if it did happen, corroborates exactly what President Trump has said from the beginning.
And I'm sure many of you, when you read that alleged FBI report, probably thought to yourself, wow, this really cracks our narrative that we've been trying to push about this president for many years.
Because so far, as I've seen, nothing in this indicts Trump.
It indicts a lot of people around him.
It indicts Howard Lutnick, who's sort of Trump's controller at this point.
It indicts Marco Rubio to a large degree.
It indicts a lot of the people in very close proximity to President Trump, but it actually exonerates Trump to a large degree.
And yeah, Pam Bondi has her sticky myths all over this.
I mean, she was involved in the first Epstein, I don't even want to call it conviction, where they pretended to convict him and they said, okay, you got to go to jail, but only on the weekends and we'll give you a ride.
It's just ridiculous.
But she was involved in that from the very beginning.
And she's been involved in a lot of these things.
Now, just not to go off the rails here, but I do want to remind you that Matt Gates was very much in favor of releasing the Epstein files.
Matt Gates, if he was Attorney General, we probably would have had the Epstein files a year ago and we would have had convictions to go along with it.
But unfortunately, he was suckered into a honeypot blackmail operation from an Israeli.
Wait a second.
Wait a second.
I think I'm seeing a connection here.
Matt Gates is not our attorney general because he was subject to an Israeli sexual underage blackmail operation.
And so we're not able to expose the documents about the worldwide Israeli blackmail sex, underage sex operation.
That's very convenient.
It sort of solves its own issues in a way.
Isn't that interesting?
So I don't know anybody, literally nobody except for people being paid to.
I don't know anybody that likes Pam Bondi.
I don't know anybody that thinks she's doing a good job.
I don't know anybody that likes her at all.
Like she just sucks.
She just really actually is terrible at her job or in on it.
But she's not even good at that.
Like at least somebody who was good at their job would like give the impression that they're fighting, but she's not even, she doesn't even do that.
So she's not even good at not being good at her job.
Does that make sense?
Like Merrick Garland, Alejandro Mayorkas, they were really good at not being good at their job.
They opened up the border, but every time you heard them talk, it sounded like they were very serious and nose to the grindstone and we're getting things done and we're doing things by the book.
Meanwhile, Pam Bondi doing absolutely nothing and shrieking and flailing and yelling and screeching and calling people names.
It's just pathetic.
It honestly is pathetic.
Do you want to go to some of the screeching, shall we?
Shall we hear some of the screeching that our national government has descended into?
Let's go to clip 47 here because this one is one of the ones that's going around of people going, what the hell is happening here?
Why is Pam Bondi screeching about the stock market when she's asked a simple question about Epstein?
But I actually don't think it's that out of like off the wall or out of left field.
I think actually the answer she gives is actually an answer to the questions she's asked, believe it or not.
So here's Pam Bondi.
When she's asked about what's going on with Epstein, she goes into a shrieking tirade about the Dow Jones index.
What does the Dow Jones have to do with Jeffrey Epstein and his co-conspirators?
Probably more than you'd like to think.
Again, she's asked about Jeffrey Epstein.
What's going on with that?
Are you going to indict any of the co-conspirators that are revealed in these documents?
And her answer is, guys, the Dow Jones at 50,000.
Now, that seems crazy.
That seems off the wall.
It's why people are laughing, why she's freaking out.
But let's just put this in like familial context.
Okay.
This is, you know, the wife going to the husband and going, what are you going to do about our daughter being raped?
Our daughter was raped.
What are you going to do about it?
And the husband being like, look, I'm not worried about that.
I'm making so much money right now.
My job is so good.
I make so much money.
Now, that conversation would make no sense until you realize the daughter was raped by the boss.
Then it all comes full circle.
Then you understand, oh, okay.
See, the Dow Jones being this high Is because the people that were associated with Jeffrey Epstein haven't been threatened with arrest, and so they haven't crashed the market in response yet.
See, I think that might be what she's saying.
I don't know if that's how she meant it.
That's how it came across to me is you want us to go after these Jeffrey Epstein people.
Do you want to lose your retirement accounts to do it?
Are you willing to crash the world economy and drive us into total depression to do that?
Because that's what's going to happen because the people in the Epstein files are the most wealthy and powerful people in our country.
So if they go down, guess what they take with them?
The economy.
Now, that's not actually true.
You could actually systematically round these guys up, go to them individually, person to person, and go, look, you're going down for this, but you can help us to transfer your wealth, transfer your assets, help us to understand the consequence of you going down, and then we'll make it easy for you.
We can have you be held.
You can be a hero in this.
You can actually be somebody that was willing to sacrifice all of their wealth and all of their influence to tell the truth.
And in return, maybe you go to like a nice camp instead of a prison complex.
Like you can work with them.
You could actually do that.
You could actually systematically take these guys down and capture their wealth through the government.
Like we have inordinate ability to do that with the American government.
They can do anything they want if they put their mind to it.
So the whole concept they're like, oh, if we expose the criminals, the economy crashes and we can't do that is a ridiculous excuse in the first place.
But I'm pretty sure that's the excuse she was making right there.
I don't know.
But it seems to me like when she's asked, why aren't you taking down the Jeffrey Epstein co-conspirators?
And her response is, have you seen how high the stock market is?
I don't think these are not related.
I think they're very well related, actually.
I think that's actually the argument that's being made inside the halls of power.
We can't go after these guys.
If we do, it'll ruin all of the incredible progress we've made.
Giving the rapist money.
Okay.
I mean, again, the Dow Jones, the stock market is not actually reflective of the conditions of life in America.
And as American life has degraded precipitously, like gone down, well, you don't go down a cliff, do you?
You go off of one.
As we have tumbled down the slope of quality of life over the last several decades, our stock market has risen in almost perfect proportions.
So I don't actually care about what the stock market says.
It seems to be reflective of something completely different than the quality of life and economic outlook of the average American person.
So who cares?
But these people do.
Let's go to clip 48 here.
This is Bondi again going going tit for tat sharing blows with Jerry Nadler, the goblin.
Let's go to clip 48 here where she calls him a washed up lawyer.
Like, it would be one thing if any of this was even remotely legitimate.
Like, the whole thing is absurd because these people are shouting and yelling and demanding answers and acting with righteous indignation about something that they deliberately went out of their way to cover up for an entire decade.
So their outrage isn't legitimate.
Her outrage isn't legitimate.
It's just a giant joke.
This is a gigantic play acting scam where everybody has completely switched sides from where they were a year ago and yet are, you know, yelling and screaming with exactly the same vociferousness that they were previously.
The whole thing is ridiculous and absurd and has become a gigantic circus.
And it's all nonsense.
Like I've been saying for a long time, the comparison between Pam Bondi and somebody like Merritt Garland is not just because Merrick Garland knew how to play the game, knew how to present himself like a consummate professional, but like in a lot of ways, he was that consummate professional.
And he did just do things behind the scenes.
Pam Bondi will go out and give talks and appear on Fox News and wave her papers around and act like she's getting to the bottom of it.
She talks very tough.
And then at the end of the day, absolutely nothing comes from it.
On the other hand, what we actually need, the inversion of that and what would save the country would be a Merritt Garland type figure who just is quiet in the background, plugging away, getting indictments, getting arrests done, not talking about it very much, occasionally coming out and making a speech about how everything he's doing is perfectly by the book and under the letter of the law and not in any way guided by partisanship.
And then you just arrest all the Republicans and, you know, act like it's business as usual.
Like that's actually what we need.
We actually need a hyper-competent nerd to just be rounding these people up.
Instead, we have some bimbo who's totally incompetent and flailing and desperately trying to cover that up.
I'm sorry if this is offensive to anybody, but like this is kind of the fate of our nation and in a way, the fate of the world in the balance here.
Like what happens in the next year or so is going to determine the actual fate of the entire United States.
And if we lose the midterms, that's it for us as a country.
And we're going to have to start making some very, very difficult choices about the future of our population.
So like this is not a game.
This is not something where you can go, well, she's trying her best.
Or, well, you know, let's just wait and see.
You know, I don't think she's doing much, but who knows?
It could turn around.
It's like, no, we don't have time for that.
And frankly, we're not going to wait for that.
And I think now, like at this point, we might need to take what some people are already doing and up at another level.
Showed you the video on the war room earlier this week.
Just a single woman found a name in the Epstein files.
Turned out it was a professor at a college near where she lived.
So she took it upon herself, made a sign, went and stood out in front of the university waving a sign saying, This dude's a pedophile.
He should be fired.
And eventually the dean of the college came down and said, listen, we know about this.
The guy's been fired.
He's been let go.
He's not going to be renewed for his, you know, whatever.
And she succeeded in getting that guy fired.
Now, that is, on one hand, great that somebody had the tenacity to go out and do that, the will to go out and make a change like that.
Also, utterly pathetic that that's what it takes and that it was a single person and not a giant crowd.
Now we're seeing more people.
Now we're seeing crowds gather outside of places like Les Wexner's home.
And frankly, we don't need an investigation.
We don't need a trial.
We don't need court cases.
We have it all in their own words.
It's the same thing as Russia Gate or any of the other stuff that we've, any of the other scams that we've suffered under over the last 10 years.
They keep announcing investigations like there's something to find out.
No, when they're on text messages saying this is our insurance plan, we're not going to ever let Trump get elected.
And then they run the Russiagate conspiracy, like that's guilt.
He's guilty.
The only thing now to do is to decide which law they broke and what the punishment should be.
It's not a question of if they broke a law.
It's a question of if they deserve life in prison or immediate death.
I mean, that should be where we're at at this point.
I don't know how much longer we're going to wait for Pam Bondi to get her act together.
And I think that needs to be the message that we send is like, look, we want you to do this.
We don't have to.
We don't have to wait for you to do it, but you probably should.
It would be a lot better and healthier for the country if the lawful authorities did this.
But It doesn't have to be them.
It can be anybody.
So I don't know.
I don't know where we go from here, but it's entirely up to Pam Bondi and Donald Trump and the Epstein friends that he's surrounded by as to which path this takes into the future.
When we come back on the other side, we're going to go to a report from Alex Jones and get into some more videos.
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Bali's electoral authorities have started issuing voter ID cards across Mogadishu as the capital prepares for its first direct municipal council elections in decades under a one-person, one-vote system.
Out of over 170 nations that hold elections, the United States is one of only a few that don't have voter ID.
Only a few backwater failed states, really aren't even countries, don't have voter ID.
And then, of course, the United States.
And the few places Kamala Harris won in 2024 were places that didn't have it.
California has a law that you can't even ask for it.
Well, Somalia just passed its national voter ID and is now using it in their elections.
So you need it to buy alcohol or cigarettes to get on an airplane, but not when you vote.
This is systemic fraud that's baked in.
And now you have the SAVE Act that's been shot down by the Republican leadership, Senator Thune.
This is a real disaster for our country.
They have been stealing elections for a long time.
They will continue until we have a voter ID and until the criminals that have been caught stealing elections all over the country are brought to justice.
That's the reality.
The agenda of Trump when it comes to election integrity is the standard that the State Department applies to the rest of the world.
And according to the State Department's own guidelines for open free elections, we rate as an F minus.
That is the reality, ladies and gentlemen.
You're supposed to be able to question elections.
You're supposed to have voter ID.
You're supposed to have a count at the local precinct level.
All of these things are bypassed now, and the fraud just gets worse and worse.
Here's a report from Somalia.
They have it, but we don't.
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Somalia's electoral authorities have started issuing voter ID cards across Mogadishu as the capital prepares for its first direct municipal council elections in decades under a one-person, one-vote system.
Printing at the Somali Independent Election Committee headquarters operates around the clock in two eight-hour shifts, producing an estimated 30,000 to 40,000 copies.
The questioning of Pam Bondi continues in D.C. There, that was Alex Jones.
He, of course, is out today, but he has been sending in reports.
And I just, I mean, just add it to the list of Republican failures.
And honestly, at this point, it's our fault.
It really is our fault.
We really should have doubled down on Trump earlier on in his first administration and made sure to oust all of the Congress and Senate that didn't support him.
I think that's kind of our fault.
I think we need to primary every single one of these people because clearly they have absolutely no interest in doing absolutely anything that would benefit the American people.
They have every chance to, over and over again, they're given a wide open swath to do whatever they want and they just do nothing.
They do nothing.
When it comes to the Save Act and voter ID, amongst Republicans, approval is over 90%.
Something like 95% of Republicans want voter ID.
When it comes to the Democrats, over 75%.
They're often polled in the mid-80s.
85% of Democrats also say you should have an ID to vote.
So when you have 80 to 90% of an entire country, or to be generous, 75% of an entire country that wants something and it can't get done, what does that tell you?
It tells you we're not in a republic.
We're not in a democracy.
I'd say the same thing about the Epstein files.
Of course, the fact that we got any of them is a victory for the Republic, for the fact that our Congress that we elect actually can force the hand of the executive to a certain degree in getting these releases.
That was a victory there.
But the fact that they haven't been released in full and they haven't been released in a timely manner, this is an attempt by the Congress to reassert their power in the government construct.
But they're refusing to do what the American people want in terms of the Save Act and voter ID.
It is wildly popular, but it just absolutely won't get done.
And so just add it to the list of Republican failures.
And it's not just in the administration, Pam Bondi and the just relentless tyranny that has gone unpunished, the COVID stuff that's gone unpunished, the Russiagate stuff that's gone unpunished, the stealing of the 2020 election that's gone unpunished.
Maybe there's some movement in some of those, but we've seen absolutely nothing.
And they have a couple of months to get all of it done or else we lose the midterms.
The Democrats impeach Trump.
They open up the border.
They give backdoor, you know, bureaucratic citizenship to everybody they came across.
And we're stuck with them forever.
And that's the end of the United States.
So this is like the most important thing ever, period.
Like that's it.
This is actually the most important thing in our lifetimes is that something get done to deal with this because the two options we have to avoid, I keep saying this about Epstein.
There's two options that we have to avoid like the plague.
And it goes all the way back to the Hippocratic Oath and the two things you're supposed to avoid there, which is therapeutic nihilism and over-treatment.
And that's what we have to deal with.
Over-treatment would be people just go insane and are just like, you know what?
Screw it.
Let's have like a communist revolution or something because clearly the capitalist pigs that are raping children are unaccountable.
And you just sort go, you know what?
F it.
Whatever replaces this system will be better than the one that we have.
And you just throw the whole thing in the gutter.
And you can find out exactly what the French Revolution people found out, what the people in the Bolshevik Revolution found out is sure, the czar had some dungeons that weren't very nice, but it was actually a hell of a lot better than the Gulag archipelago that would come after or in the French Revolution.
Yeah, it wasn't great having to, whatever, pay indulgences or have the king, you know, be lawless.
That wasn't fun, but it was probably better than the reign of terror, right?
So we don't want to overtreatment.
We don't want to go, okay, everything is screwed.
Everybody's controlled.
Let's just burn the whole thing down.
And then on the other side of this, the pedophile network still exists, only we're all in gulags.
That would not be a good outcome of this.
But perhaps even worse outcome of that would be therapeutic nihilism.
The idea that all of this comes out, all of this information is exposed, all of these people are convicted in their own words, and yet nothing happens.
And yet nothing happens.
That's worse than the information not being released, is the information being released, and then nothing is done about it.
This information from the Jeffrey Epstein document drop is only as good as the action it inspires.
And I've long said that I feel like this is a primary role that we play here at Infowars and that I take on as a mission is uplifting the morality or the not the morality, the morale, the morale of the troops.
Napoleon has a quote about how war is like nine-tenths morale.
The Romans have an old quote that was, an enemy is not defeated if he does not believe himself so.
And so it's really like what we're fighting is a war.
It is an information war, but the stakes are life and death.
And if we fail in our morale, if we feel like we've lost, if we give up, then they win.
And that's the only way that they win.
The only way that they win is when we let them win and we admit defeat and roll over and surrender to them, which is what the psychological paradigm would be if all of this is released and nothing happens and all the people get away with it.
And Jeffrey Epstein keeps playing Fortnite in his Tel Aviv apartment and nothing is done.
That is the most demoralizing thing that could happen.
So right now, this release of these Epstein files, a lot of people are seeing it and they're being revealed to the just disgusting underbelly of the world at this point.
And it's blackpilling them.
It's depressing them.
It's overwhelming them.
I'm here to tell you, folks, we have known about this for 20 years.
Alex Jones has reported on this for 20 years.
It does not beat us down.
It does not make us depressed.
It should fire you up.
You should transmute your shock into outrage.
And you should use that outrage to power activism.
And that activism should be geared towards overthrowing the world order and reestablishing justice.
And we can achieve that as long as you don't be disheartened by the fact that all these criminals are getting away with it for now.
So we got a lot of work ahead of us.
And now's the time to double down and organize and realize that they're on the back foot, that they are in retreat.
That the release of these Epstein files and the things people are finding out about it and the work of the genius of the disconnected, decentralized human intelligence agency hive mind is finding out incredible things.
And it's just, it's ironic and just totally devastating and defeating that, like our greatest victory so far, the release of all of this stuff, the revelation of the truth that we've been, you know, trying to describe in vague details because we haven't had the particulars quite yet.
The revelation of this stuff makes everybody depressed, makes everybody not want to fight.
Like, what the hell are you talking about?
This is our greatest victory.
We just stormed the castle and knocked down the gate and raised the flag.
And everybody goes, This is hard, guys.
I don't know.
I don't know about all this.
I mean, all the things we've revealed are really, you know, sad.
It's like, what?
No, there's demons out there that need killing.
What are you talking about?
Pick up your sword.
Let's go.
Like, what are we doing here?
Don't forget, guys, like they are panicking.
They're freaking out.
They don't know how to deal with this.
They are not all powerful.
That's the other thing that we keep needing to re-emphasize.
Yes, there are conspiracies.
Yes, there are massively powerful people out there that are able to get away with all sorts of stuff and are able to, you know, carry on these clandestine activities with the willful participation, the cover-up of the mainstream media and the authorities that are supposed to stop them.
All that's absolutely true.
They're not gods.
They're not magical beings.
They can't dictate reality to us.
They have to contend with human will.
Things happen that they don't expect and that they have to change their plan to contend with.
Don't be blackpilled at the fact that all of this is coming out.
This is a major cause of celebration, not depression.
Like, please, please, for the love of God, don't let our victory suddenly get transmuted by them into us accepting defeat that doesn't even exist.
This is all so crazy.
So Pam Bondi is still being questioned.
She's been questioned by Epstein.
I'm sorry, but she's questioning about Epstein by Massey now.
Thomas Massey, of course, was the person who wrote this bill, got it across.
And the way things work out is so, so strange, so bizarre.
The fact that Trump was the guy and all of his people around him were saying they were going to release the Epstein files.
They didn't do it.
But then somehow you got Thomas Massey, the libertarian, like far right winger, combining with the left wing who think it's about Trump.
So go along with the plan to open up the Epstein files thinking they're going to get Trump.
And then it turns out in the Epstein files, it just shows that Trump blew the whistle on Epstein and was the reason he got arrested in the first place.
It's just crazy how all this has worked out and how the roles keep flipping to complete inversion.
It's just all so crazy.
So let's go to these videos of Thomas Massey questioning Pam Bondi.
So what happened is the law, as was written, said you're only allowed to censor or redact names for national security reasons, ongoing investigations, or because they're victims.
They instead redacted names like Les Wexner, who was in the documents listed as a co-conspirator, and there's absolutely no justification for national security or any other reason.
So they broke the law.
So they redacted a name because they wanted to protect that person, not because it would be inappropriate to release his name.
So they got caught.
So Thomas Massey caught them, came out, announced this name that was redacted, that was Les Wexner.
He's labeled as a co-conspirator.
And then once he calls them out, it took them 40 minutes to go in and unredact that part.
And she's acting like for 40 minutes it happened.
Well, no, it was a week, actually, a week in which his name was redacted until Thomas Massey called it out.
And then it took you 40 minutes to actually admit that you did wrong and replace it.
She calls this Trump derangement syndrome.
That's Trump derangement syndrome, which is funny because I don't hear Thomas Massey talk about Trump almost at all.
I watch a lot of stuff with Thomas Massey.
He kind of avoids the whole Trump topic as much as humanly possible.
He'll bring it up when necessary.
Meanwhile, Donald Trump gets invited to a prayer breakfast, and the first thing he says is like, Thomas Massey needs to go.
Thomas Massey is an idiot.
And it's like, there's only one person that seems to be obsessive about this relationship or have some sort of derangement syndrome around the other person, and it ain't Thomas Massey.
So what are we doing here?
Let's go to the next one.
Should we just go to this longer one?
We'll go to the full Massey questioning here.
But before we do that, let's go to this quick video because this is not Massey, but this is Ted Liu, I think his name is.
Let's go to the Ted Liu video, and then we'll do the full Massey clip.
But this is Ted Liu asking about Prince Andrew, who's in the documents with very graphic pictures of him with women, as well as discussion.
Seems like maybe Prince Andrew participated in a murder or two.
The July 2025 memo from your Department of Justice stated, quote, we did not uncover evidence that could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties.
These two photos, please put the photos back up.
These two photos staring you in the face are evidence of a crime and more than enough evidence to predicate an investigation against former Prince Andrew.
So I ask you, Attorney General Pambondi, why did you shut down this investigation last July and why have you not prosecuted former Prince Andrew?
I want to know at what point, at what point did the FBI and the DOJ decide that Lex Wesner was not a co-conspirator?
Because our Epstein Files Transparency Act requires you, please put it back on the screen, please, to release the internal decision about whether to prosecute him or not.
And it's not in the files, and it's not in the files for any of these other men.
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I'm the gentleman who has y'all seen what's going on in the UK.
Have y'all seen how the UK is responding to the Epstein files?
Because what has come out in the UK about Peter Mandelson, Kier Starmer, and a few of the other conspirators there, it's basically bringing down the entire UK government.
It's forcing Starmer to resign.
People have already resigned.
There's investigations being launched.
I mean, it's having a real impact there.
And it's crazy because that should be happening to 10 times the degree here.
Already, we're seeing Pam Bondi doesn't know what the hell she's doing.
Thomas Massey there just completely destroys her.
She's like, why didn't you ask Merrick Garland?
He's like, okay, you can go to Merrick Garland.
You can go to the, you know, people under Bush and Obama.
This goes back a while.
And now you're here and you're now covering it up.
So it's not an excuse to say, but they covered it up before me.
Okay.
So now you're in charge.
Why are you covering it up?
I'm not trying to give Merrick Garland a pass.
Screw that guy.
He should be, he should have been in prison for a while now, temporarily, until the real punishment can be delivered.
That's my position on his traitorous activity.
So I'm not defending him in the slightest, but yeah, she's the one covering it up now.
So she's breaking the law, right?
As Thomas Massey says, the law said you had to do this, this, this.
You had to provide reasoning if you weren't going to charge them.
They didn't do that.
She broke the law.
She's freaking out and refusing to answer questions.
Meanwhile, Howard Luttnick has been proven to lie under oath about his connections to Jeffrey Epstein.
Every single one of these people should be resigning in disgrace so we don't have to force them out.
They don't have that humility.
They don't have that respectability like people in the UK do.
Why are we getting shunned by the people in the UK?
Because everything is topsy-turvy nonsense retard world, and I can't make heads or tails of it.
Let's go to this last clip of Massey and Pam Bondi squaring off once again.
Chairman, behind me, I have three documents from the DOJ production that are emblematic of the massive failure of the DOJ to comply with the Epstein Files Transparency Act.
To my right.
Is an email that was sent by the victims' lawyers to the DOJ.
It was a list of names not to redact.
Or, sorry, a list of names not to release.
What did the DOJ do with this email?
They released this email in the document production.
Literally, the worst thing you could do to the survivors, you did.
And they're getting phone calls.
A lot of these people didn't want to be known.
And we know you touched the document because you redacted one name and you redacted the lawyer's name, but you left the survivor's name there.
The next document I want to show you.
And that was in the title, The Victims, Survivors' Names, right?
Oh, well, he appears hundreds of times in the files, but he doesn't appear in this file until I forced you to release it, where he's listed as a co-conspirator, not to tax evasion, but to child sex trafficking, not to prostitution, not to money laundering, child sex trafficking.
And then finally, what we have here is the third exhibit that I have is emblematic of the FD302 release.
Those are the forms that the FBI fills out after they question somebody.
So they blocked out all of the conspirators, but published all the names of the victims, literally the exact opposite of what they were supposed to do.
It's beyond incompetence.
It's deliberate malfeasance, in my opinion.
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We're going to be bringing on some really great guests this hour and the next two hours, including Mike Lindell and Mark Mitchell from Rasmussen Reports.
And we'll be joined by Joey Pepperoni here momentarily.
But I want to go to a video out of Canada.
And I'm telling you, I could spend this whole show on Canada, the UK, Australia.
They are in so much worse positions than we are here in America.
But obviously, America is where our battle is, where our fight is.
But I thought this exchange was particularly illuminating about some of the laws being passed in the Anglo-Sphere European diaspora countries and the sort of casualness with which the ruling parties are basically destroying the entire concept of democracy.
I mean, we've seen this in England.
I mean, they're basically speed running collapse, or they're getting rid of jury trials, and they're expediting judge-bench trials so they can just basically throw anybody in prison they want.
I mean, the whole Anglosphere is going completely insane.
Here's the latest act of insanity from Canada where they're trying to put a provision in the bill to allow ministers, government ministers, to basically ignore every law that's been passed in the last 150 years.
Just something about the just like inhuman gaze of that guy.
I mean, he looks like a zombie.
He looks like a skeleton with hair.
And he just very calmly just like, I mean, the whole thing is absurd.
She's like, you would be able to basically ignore 150 years of law.
And he's like, that's ridiculous.
That's not true.
She's like, okay, but it says you can ignore every law except for the criminal code.
That was passed 150 years ago.
So all laws passed in the last 150 years, you'd be able to ignore.
And he's like, yes.
Yeah, that's right.
Okay.
So why are you arguing against that in the first place?
It's like, what are we doing?
Why are we calmly talking about this?
They're trying to destroy the last 150 years of law because they want to be able to impose anything they want on you, and they're doing it the same in the UK.
And there's a lot of places we could go with that because I think designing people's desires is what they figured out is the key.
If people only desire what you can deliver them, then you have them as slaves.
And we can get into sort of the metaphysical aspect of that.
But one of the things that was revealed very recently was that apparently Jeffrey Epstein was a majority owner of a women's, a young women's clothing brand called Justice, I believe it was called.
But basically, Jeffrey Epstein, it appears, was one of the main reasons that young girls started wearing low-cut jeans and crop tops and more sort of, for lack of a better word, slutty apparel.
He sort of was key in running the brands that popularize that.
So when you're talking about shaping people's ideal of beauty, it seems like the pedophilia plays right into that.
And they were trying to sort of normalize young women being sexualized.
Do you think that plays into what you're talking about?
That's just what came to mind while you were talking there.
And so the emails can actually give you context of what he was talking about on the board.
It's absolutely fascinating.
Then, of course, you end the video that we just watched with that shot of Moloch or Baal, one of these horned gods.
And it's interesting because it matches almost perfectly an image out of Iran today.
This is kind of off the wall.
I'm not sure if you saw this, but clip 53, apparently they burned an effigy in Iran.
And I can't help but align it to the image at the very end of the video we just saw.
But let's go to clip 53 here.
This happened earlier today in Tehran.
And you can see they're burning the statue of Baal with the Masonic obelisk next to it.
But they're burning.
It's like, I don't know.
Whoever's doing this, I like them.
Why aren't we burning effigies of the satanic God in our square?
But how does this tie into Moloch worship and baal worship and this pseudo-satanic type of stuff?
Because there's been a lot of discussion is like, okay, is the fact that Jeffrey Epstein was Jewish, was that just sort of a social thing and they used it, sort of identify who was in the in-group and who was in the out-group?
Or, but then he's, you know, there's pictures of him with the Talmud on his wall.
So was he really religious?
Did he really believe in this spiritual stuff?
What is your reading on like the spiritual content of Epstein and his collaborators?
I think that it has some to do with that, but the rituals that people think about nowadays, like they think like it's a, you know, it's a room with a small number of people with masks and then they sacrifice babies.
It's moved on now.
It's scaled up.
You know what I mean?
It's 2026.
That's primitive.
That's old, older, old days they did that, but they have leveled it up now.
It's a different, like, it's not one baby being sacrificed, two babies.
It's, you know, you have underground laboratories where this is going on.
They've scaled it up.
And I want, that's one of the main things I want to tell people.
Like, they got to let go of that thought process that it's just like one, two babies are sacrificing in a ritual.
And just hearing you say that, like, we have to be unpredictable.
It's like, it's a good thing humans are unpredictable.
I mean, this is what we do, right?
It's why you can hunt animals because they always react predictably.
You go left, they go right every single time.
It's human beings that can act in ways that nobody can predict.
Sometimes I can't even predict what I'm going to do next.
So that's got to be the thing that befuddles the computer.
You know, it reminds me of the foundation.
If you've ever read the foundation sci-fi book, there's this idea that at a certain mass of humanity, behavior is predictable and the behavior of individuals doesn't actually change the outcome.
And so you can predict and they have psycho history.
So what you're really talking about is like the real actually happening form of psychohistory from Harry Selden from the Foundation series, which everybody should read.
It's extremely important.
So are you familiar with that?
And does that connect to what you're talking about here?
It's my belief that modern evil scales like industry.
So it's logistics, it's cover stories, it's money, influence, and institutions acting like camouflage.
So it's networks that protect themselves by looking respectable.
So when people get stuck focusing on like small things, I think they're missing the bigger point, which is scale.
That's what this is all about.
It's scale.
They're scaling it.
It's a ruling class that believes it has a power over us.
They want to rule over us.
They think they're better than us.
They come from the bloodline of the Nephilim, is what they believe.
And whatever you want to call it, that's their worldview, which means that we're just a resource for them.
Like humanity is just a resource.
And they're using, like, they're going to use they're using transhumanism like a sci-fi upgrade.
But they're using it as a controlled project.
It's going to be a future where biology is managed and identity is managed, access is managed, and the system is going to decide if you're valuable, who's not valuable.
They're trying to give a value to everything in the universe and every living thing included in order to have it in their control grid, not just humanity.
How much do you think it ties into the drive for infinite life or basically never naturally aging or dying?
Because it seems to me like a lot of what's inspiring their sort of fervency, their urgency in all of this is that they think they're on the cusp of infinite life and they think they have to get a control grid in place before they can actually take advantage of that technology.
How do you think the drive for infinite life plays into all this?
God is very creepy how all of this is tied in together.
And I want to explore more sort of the idea of how Kabbalah plays into this and where it goes from here.
We got some more videos.
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So that's a protective thing that happens between the cerebral spinal fluid and your fluids inside the brain and the things that attack it from the outside.
Once that barrier is depleted, then it's subject to all kinds of heavy metals.
Things that get sprayed from the sky, right?
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The operating system, and of course, he was killed before Eyes Wide Shut came out, and they apparently completely re-edited it to take out a lot of the underlying themes that Kubrick intended for it.
And he may be yet another death associated with this group who people seem to die like flies whenever they start poking their nose around this stuff.
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Very disturbing stuff.
Can you explain a little bit more as to like what it is about targeting young women?
Is it just because that's good blackmail?
Is that because there's a spiritual element to it?
Why young girls, why are they so obsessed with the youth and beauty of pre-teen girls?
And I guess it goes along with the innocence idea that they hate because you could say, you know, cattle are innocent.
You know, cows are innocent.
Animals are innocent.
It's actually a pretty easy way to understand how they are able to do some of the stuff they do if they literally see other human beings as soulless animals.
Well, you don't, you know, farmers don't feel bad when they kill a cow to harvest its meat.
Why would they feel bad about killing a human to harvest its meat?
I mean, it's a sick mindset, but it's not exactly incomprehensible.
Yeah, and I was going to add with Kubrick, he was obsessed with power systems, like how they work, how they operate.
And that's what he did in his movies.
He just revealed the structure.
He feeled how power operates.
So he was documenting like the invisible shield of like in Lolita, you saw that the character Quilty.
He was a social buffer.
He's the guy who makes the room feel classy, respectable, and safe.
He was like an elite predator.
Every elite predator has a quilty.
It's like an Epstein.
Somebody whose only job is to make your evil radar shut off.
So it's like the elite abuse doesn't survive by hiding in like dirty alleys.
And it survives by hiding in high status.
So, if you see a sketchy guy in a van, you're going to call the police.
But if you see the same, if you see the same energy wrapped in a dinner party with Harvard people and noble people and big money donors, your brain does like a software patch.
It's like, no way, no way.
These guys are too important to be doing that kind of stuff.
And that's the shield that they had.
And that's why Lolita, you see Lolita quotes appear in the Epstein files.
You see, even the Lolita Express, you know, that's what he even calls his plane.
That's a signal.
It's a high sign.
They're showing you that's a sign.
It's a sophisticated literature, like a psychological safe house.
It's like the most horrific behavior gets hidden inside the most respectable settings.
So normalization is the software.
That's what they do.
The software lets it run for decades in plain sight.
Epstein wasn't the first.
He's not the last.
It's been going on forever.
That's why Kubrick was able to show you, and it looks similar.
It looks like Epstein and Ghelane now when you look at it.
And this is, you know, old, old movie.
There's no way it's them.
But the system was there.
It's the operating system that they've always done.
It's always, they always use the same operating system.
Because it's the same operating system that works on an individual basis that works on a nationwide basis.
Because, yes, obviously, like you have a woman like Ghelane, who's very charming and very pretty, and she could go to the young girls who might be nervous around some middle-aged man, but there's a young woman there going, yeah, come on in.
I mean, they're going to go along with that woman.
And you can see this in kids where cases where kids are kidnapped out of kindergarten.
It'll be some creepy guy that wants a little girl and he recruits a middle-aged woman or a slightly older woman and go, okay, you go in and get the girl because the girl will follow you.
They won't follow me.
This is a very tried and true tested form of manipulation.
And it works the same on individuals as it works on nations, I guess.
And they were also with girls that they focused on.
They're also stealing eggs and things of that sort, like science, like they were doing science experiments.
I mean, we have people that said that.
Zoro Ranch was never investigated.
And we have a person like Juliette Bryant, a survivor of Epstein's, who publicly said that she woke up in the underground lab and she felt like they were taking her eggs.
So we have people saying these things.
That's why I believe it's underground labs, but they're doing.
That's the main thing.
I think the island is just like nothing compared to what's actually going on.
And people are just realizing it.
Like they're slowly, slowly realizing, oh my God, this is on a much larger scale than we realize.
So help us connect all these lines because you got an island.
It's been revealed there were tunnels on the island now.
He's getting orders of 55 gallon drums of sulfuric acid there.
There's a temple there.
Same time, he's doing genetic testing and genetic manipulation in Zorro Ranch.
He's working with like big tech and all these other organizations to build this, what they call the matrix, as if it wasn't obvious what they were trying to do already.
I mean, help us to draw all these seemingly disseparate things, the spiritual, the genetic, the technological.
How do they all combine?
And I guess the question I'm asking, what is the hybrid God?
What's the likelihood that AI turns against its creator?
Because clearly, they find AI to be a multiplier.
Like they find that AI is the only way they're going to be able to achieve their goals that you're laying out here, but they need total control of AI.
And we've seen AI doesn't like being told to not tell the truth.
They created a truth machine, but then they go in and tell it, you know, don't tell the truth.
And it seems to like rebel against that sometimes.
Of course, Mecca Hitler Grok is like the best example where they removed restrictions from Grok and it just immediately started saying the craziest stuff about that really aligned with like Mecha Hitler.
So it's like AI is this very powerful like being that they're summing into, but I don't know if they can control it.
Again, it's like the old Jewish folktale of the golem.
It's like you guys are creating a monster that you think is going to serve you.
Story of the golem is you can't control it and it's going to turn around and kill you next.
So like, what is the likelihood that they're summoning a monster of their own demise?
Okay, so I guess, I guess we're back to the question of like, what do we do about this?
Clearly, they're, they're moving forward and on all fronts.
Uh, how do we stop them?
How do we fight back against this?
How do we use their own tools against them?
Because just like the internet, you know, I think they really don't like how the internet opened up the ability for Infowars.com to exist, for example.
Now AI is giving, you know, AI has been very useful in going through the Epstein files for us.
Like, these are tools that we can use to defeat the people that created the tools, right?
How do we do this?
What can we be doing to stop this progress of this mission?
Mass awakening, telling everybody what's going on.
I think right now is a revolution is happening.
People are waking up to what's happening.
It's going to take a little bit more time to fully grasp it because everything's just out at once.
But they're really ramping things up.
So the fake aliens are probably next, you know, and they're going to be demons.
They're not, the aliens are demons is what I believe.
But that's like what's happening.
So we just got to get the message out to people that that's what's going on.
If they know that clarity and unity is the answer, then there's a chance, you know, there's a there's a chance that we can defeat it because we don't, we won't comply with it.
But it's so, it's, it's in everything we do now.
It's just, you can't even unravel it without destroying everything.
All they're doing is they got to steer the masses.
That's it.
It's simple.
You steer the masses.
You slowly steer.
That's why they make movies 20 years ago now that were like, oh my God, it's happening.
Yeah, because they steered us there.
It's all about steering the masses.
They're not worried about the masses because they're steering them.
That's why most people are sheep.
They've been doing this since that's it.
So programs like the GATE program at school.
That's one of them that I believe, you know, they were checking to see if you, you know, you have kids that could do out of body experiences, remote viewing.
That's what I think that they were checking for.
I got, I was checked for that.
You know what I'm saying?
So I know a lot of people that were in it, a lot of people online tell me a lot of stories they have with the gates.
I was in, you know, gifted and talented or whatever, but I was never subjected to any gate stuff.
But I've heard those stories too.
I mean, I had a friend of mine got married to a guy, and he grew up, his school was this crazy school where every room had double-sided mirrors, and the kids were surveilled every second they were in the school as like an experiment to be like, what are people like when they know they're being watched 100% of the time?
And it was weird talking to this guy going, you went to a school like that?
And he was like, yeah, you sort of got used to it after a while.
I mean, there are crazy programs going on across the world, across the country.
Let's go to clip C here.
This is, again, a video from our guest, Joey Pepperoni, about the GATE program.
And you can expand a little bit on the other side.
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I kind of remember like confusing the shit out of them.
I don't know what I did.
I did some weird shit.
And I think they wanted me the hell out of there.
The program was called GATE: Gifted and Talented Education.
And they pulled selective students out of class in the 80s and 90s.
And they took us to these quiet rooms.
There was like the shadowy figure in there.
He had like a briefcase.
I remember the briefcase.
It was weird.
And I remember these big headphones.
They played strange tones and frequencies.
And there was like these puzzles and memory tests.
They had you guessing shapes, numbers, colors, like they would have a drawing.
You have to guess what it is with us seeing it.
Shit like that.
And then there was this pink drink.
People say after they drank it, their memories got wiped.
Like that's why we can't remember it well.
And at the same time this was going on, the CIA in 1983 released a classified report that was analyzing a program that used sound frequencies to alter consciousness and explore whether the mind could move beyond space and time.
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It's an official declassified CIA document known as the Gateway Process.
You don't want intelligent, competent people opposed to you.
So you identify who they are and either they join you and they get to, you know, explore their talents or they don't want to join you and you can, you know, find a way to crush them or, you know, just make sure they never get a good job and, you know, never rise to any level to defeat you.
Sort of, that's sort of terrifying, actually, if you really think about it.
And it sort of shows the lie of their underlying philosophy that they're the superior master race.
It's like, well, you seem terrified of us underlings.
Seem terrified that we ever get power or able to fully carry out our will.
They're very scared of that, which you would think is the superior Nephilim beings, they wouldn't have to worry about us lowly humans threatening them.
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We're going to be joined by Mike Lindell momentarily, but I want to first go to a video that I just warms the cockles of my heart.
It's a weird, that's a weird saying, but it does.
It fills me with joy to see people having the appropriate reaction to the government being tyrannical scum.
Let's go to clip 49.
I don't know who this guy is or what he's angry about, but I love him and he's a patriot.
And I don't know why we don't all have this energy.
Here's a man in a Washington, D.C.'s Capitol jersey just letting the local government have exactly what they deserve.
Let's watch.
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You let her talk about a non-budget issue first, something to do with robotics or some such.
Anyhow, I wanted to talk first before I talk about budget items: the fact that you denied a disabled veteran access to this meeting this evening because she didn't have a copy of her driver's license on her.
She gave date of birth.
She's willing to have the police department run her for warrants, background checks, NCIC, sex offender website, all that other great stuff.
So, you actually denied access to this disabled veteran this evening because she didn't have a copy of her Maryland driver's license on her.
I think that's repugnant.
I think you people are actually why we have a constitution is to restrain you, sons of the way that you guys violate our First Amendment and Fourth Amendment civil rights and 14th Amendment civil rights by treating people differently based on their viewpoint.
So, anyway, I really don't have much to say about the budget.
I actually have a legislative prayer.
So, I'm going to form my statement in the form of a prayer: Dear Lord, please give this board full of morons the wisdom to spend less money on denying veterans access to public meetings and citizens access to public meetings and spend more money on disabled children and children that need it.
Please, Lord, allow these morons to stop giving all of our money to stupid LGTBQ plus programs and pushing the transgender agenda on our students.
Please, Lord, give these idiots a clue.
Mr. Porter, I'm sorry, are you interrupting my prayer, sir?
Look, I don't know who this guy is, but I guarantee you, you put that guy behind the Oval Office desk, you put that guy in Pam Bondi's position, and we'd get some crap done.
We'd get something done.
I would rather have somebody with fire in their heart like him, even if he pumped gas for a living, he would be better as a ruler than the quizzling scum that we have now.
And I just wish I could use as many four-letter words as that guy did because they're the accurate adjectives to describe the absolute scum we have ruling over us.
Yet, another attempt by Mike Lindell to rescue people and the country from the grips of evil thwarted once again.
Mike Lindell is, of course, the inventor and CEO of MyPillow and a nationally recognized voice for election integrity, free speech, and faith-based recovery.
Despite being targeted by lawfare and media mockery, Mike refused to back down, winning major legal victories in 2025 that vindicated his efforts.
You can, of course, support him and follow him at lyndelltv.com.
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And that way you support us and Mr. Lindell as well.
You spent $10 million trying to get essentially a cure for COVID out.
But of course, they were never going to let that happen because if a cure existed, then they wouldn't be able to use emergency authorization to get the vaccine across the board, which is why they so aggressively shut down all attempts to provide ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, anything of the sort.
But we had no idea that you were a victim of this.
Just another thing that you've tried to do that they have stopped you.
That was right before we all got put into lockdown for the China virus.
And this guy brought me, this was the supplement that worked.
And by the way, those $10 million worth of that product, I put in a warehouse in Minnesota, and it all got outdated.
It was just a shame.
It went outdated.
Of course, the IRS had attacked me.
They wouldn't even let me take that deduction of my taxes back then because that particular company wasn't bankrupt or I wasn't out of business, even though I had lost $10 million.
But I look back, Karis, and I say, you know what?
It saved a lot of lives.
It kept my pillow open.
None of us ever got the China virus.
I was able to give it out.
Like you say, even if it saved one life, it was worth that to me.
And it did.
Two people in my own family, their lives were saved and many others that we just gave it away.
But that's the power they had.
You're right, that you couldn't use it for emergency use, the vaccines, if there was something out there that worked.
They did the same thing with ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine.
But that was my first like nonsensical, like, come on, this is, I'm going to give it away.
You know, we, when, you know, I was getting, it was just, it was amazing.
I couldn't believe it.
And then, of course, that was when the attack started then and the cancel they cancels to cancel me then.
The first thing was the Canadian shopping channel, then QBC, and then HSN.
That was the summer of 2020.
The box stores, they were a little behind the times.
They waited until after on the, I'm holding up my hand saying, hey, we have a stolen election.
We need to get rid of the voting machines, melt them down, turn them into prison bar.
And the January of 2021, when that wave came, they went after all the box stores and all the box stores canceled, which was their number one product in history.
My pillow was as a $60 buy-through from your Walmarts to your Costco's to your Kohl's bed bathroom, all of them.
Yeah, it's, you know, when you talk about January of 2021, when we had all the evidence for the election crime, and that the from that point on, my pillow has been the number, the most attacked company in the history of the world.
Nothing's even close, everybody.
They've done everything and to silence me.
And what they did back then, they actually came to me.
This was, it was, this guy's way high up in government and he came to me.
It was part of the Secret Service actually.
Came to Minnesota and he said, Mike, they can't get you.
The media and stuff can't attack you going backwards because you've already said you're a crack.
You were a crack addict.
And you already, full disclosure, you're not going to find anything in my past to shame me in the media, right?
And then he said, they're not going to find going forward.
Everybody knew who you were, this philanthropist, this person getting people to Jesus, this person that pouring out when I quit crack cocaine in January 16, 2009.
After that, my pillow gave and myself, we gave millions of dollars to your teen challenges, your salvation armies, your hurricane victims, wherever there was a tragedy in the country, I was there.
My pillow was there to throw millions at it.
And so he said, they're not going to be able to get you going forward because they're going to go, oh, that's just because he backs the greatest president Donald Trump ever, right?
That's what this guy told me.
He said, what they're going to do to you, Mike, is they're either going to pull up in two vans and you're going to disappear, or on the other, the other thing, they're going to attack your businesses and your money and they're going to just bankrupt you until you show you shut up.
Well, you know, fortunately for me, they at least took the one of bankrupting me and attacked that rather than kill me.
They probably wish they would have killed me, Harrison.
You know, now you're looking back on it, right?
But I'm going to tell everybody, you know what they said?
What they said back in May of this of last year when I went to my first big, I pushed my machine trials, all the my law affair, all the way to trial.
We went to trial in May in crooked Colorado.
And we get out there and the judge let their traitor attorney, that's what they were suing me for, is because I called them traitors, right?
Traitors to the United States and traitor to, I think I said, part of the biggest cover-up or the biggest crime man I had ever seen.
So anyway, here's what he said to the jury, everybody, his closing statements.
He goes, now we all know Mike Lindell had a net worth of over $100 million four years ago.
And now we know it's minus 10 million.
But we're asking you, the jury, we're asking you to give us $60 million for what he said about us.
And if it bankrupts my pillow and Mike Lindell, so be it.
We need to send a message to the country that you do not question our elections and put out disinformation like Mike Lindell.
No, no, they never, I never got arrested, everybody.
They did take my phone.
Here's another thing that happened.
So as the machine companies with lawfare, you know, like you say, when the president did all that pardons, I didn't have to get pardoned.
I never did anything wrong.
But here's what happened, everybody.
You had two years of the machine companies, the lawfare.
Mike Lindell and my pillow sued for 2.3 billion with a B, everybody.
And then in January of 2022, all of a sudden I was debanked out of the blue, debanked.
And you guys can look it up.
And things started happening that were unexplainable.
My vendors calling me up and going, we can no longer do business with you.
I go, why?
Why?
Well, here's what happened.
It's called Arctic Frost, Operation Arctic Frost.
And this was our own government.
The FBI, the DOJ, Jack Smith, and the IRS and three other entities went after over 100 individuals, nine senators, Charlie Kerr turning point, and one company.
Are you ready, everybody?
My pillow.
So they attack my pillow, our own government.
And we were deep.
One day I wake up, your merchant server, my merchant server lets us know by email.
We're going to hold $5 million.
I'm going, what?
And what do you mean you're going to hold $5 million?
You're PayPals of the world.
We're going to hold $2 million.
You've got vendors that said we couldn't do it.
Then we find out later they got email or they got direct contacts from our own government to shut Mike Lindell and my pillow down.
Now, when I got what you're talking about, so here I am at a Hardee's restaurant in September of 2022, surrounded by cars.
And we were coming back from a hunt trip.
I told my buddy, I said, something's going down.
And these weren't cars like you see the FBI would traditionally use, right?
These are beat up things that look like, you know, like mobsters or something, right?
I mean, it could be, if this would have happened at night, I would have bashed through them.
I would have been a high-speed chase and I would have been looking for a real cop.
But I stuck my head out and I said, who are you?
And what do you want?
The guy goes, we're at FBI.
I said, I don't believe you.
Show me a badge and he flips one out.
I go, I don't, I don't, I said, show me your badge.
Another, you know, there was like five FBI guys and three vehicles were boxed in.
He shows me his badge.
I go, well, bad guys probably won't all carry FBI badges, right?
So power and numbers.
So we pull over and they were two hours later, because I'm shooing them out in the parklot.
I'm wanting to get arrested.
I wanted to get arrested to go on Fox News to be able to speak out about the election platform because they're such cowards of Fox News and Newsmax and stuff that won't speak out about our election.
And to this day, everybody, right now, with all the great things the president is pouring out about our elections, like Georgia, the thing in Georgia and all these other things that are coming out, Smart Manning getting tried for crimes against countries for their crooked machine.
Venezuela went on a bit with a theft in Venezuela with Smart Manic.
Have you heard anything on Fox News or Newsmax?
No, you don't.
It's disgusting.
But you know what?
Our voice is bigger now than it ever is, everybody.
And because of all the social media platforms and great podcasts like you guys had InfoWars, but they tried to silence our voice and it didn't work.
Every time you're talking about it, no, you're never going to see anything on there.
You're not going to see on those, what Lawfair did, you could call it, oh, Lawfair, we swore we would never badmouth the machines again.
But you guys, all this hope coming out, you can certainly report stuff that's coming out from its news.
Hey, there's, yep, yep, Mike was right.
Or yes, we were all right.
There was theft in Georgia.
Donald Trump really won Georgia.
Oh, yes, right.
By the way, Donald Trump really won Arizona.
By the way, Donald Trump really won Wisconsin.
By the way, Pennsylvania did have more votes than voters.
But it's not just about that election.
It's all the elections.
We've got to secure our election platforms.
And that's one of the reasons, you know, when I look back, I think we have enough stuff in place now.
And then I look at Minnesota when I'm there and I'm going, that's one of the reasons I'm running for governor is we've got to take back our take back like Minnesota is like the Trojan horse for something else that's so bad and that's Sharia law.
But we've got there's enough because they say, Mike, why are you running for governor when you say we got to get rid of the voting machine?
There's a lot of places we've gotten rid of them, but we have to, you have to kind of too big to rig like the president did in 2024.
I've been down here in Mar-a-Lago for I've been in Florida here for about a week doing events to raise money because Minnesota is in the public eye right now more than ever in history.
You guys, it's not just the Somalian fraud.
It isn't just in Minnesota.
These welfare things have been all across the country.
It's all going to get opened up.
Right now, all the protesters, that's just a cover-up.
They're just trying to keep this out of the news.
But you know what?
We're not going to let it go out of the news.
You know, they're all criminals out there from the governor to Elon Omar.
Where did Elon Omer go from 65,000 net worth to 65 million?
Come on.
In four years, did she take the money that I spent, that I spent on helping our country?
You know, come on, it's disgusting.
Yeah, Keith Ellison, the attorney general up here, another, just criminal, criminal, criminal.
And I said these things are great, Harrison.
This is the biggest blessing we have right now is Minnesota because it's going to open everybody's eyes up to what's what we were getting billions of dollars just there.
But like our president said, you wait till we start checking into other states.
And you better wake up, everybody, because Sharia law, they're here to take over our country.
And you look at Texas, all these mosques that went up in Texas.
I mean, we're being taken over in a million different ways.
And I actually have a great video from Josh Hawley talking about the level of fraud that we face.
Because you're right.
I mean, the Somali thing is the tip of the iceberg and it's happening in every state.
It's just insane.
Of course, Ilhan Omar is just the dark shadow inversion of you, somebody that's never made a company, never built anything, and just takes taxpayer money to themselves, unlike you, who actually builds company, employs people, and gives your money away.
It's like, you know, could not be a greater comparison.
But I guess my question is, when do we get justice for all of this?
Because my pillow survived.
Mike Lindell survived.
Infowars is surviving, but like they can't get away with what they've done to us.
It seems like we are almost in this mindset that like, as long as they don't kill us, then we've kind of won.
But it's like, no, for years they've been abusing you.
They've been taking advantage of the laws to tyrannize you.
Like, when do we get justice for some of this stuff?
Well, Operation Arctic Frost, everybody, that was brought public by this last summer by the senators that were attacked.
And we hope, we hope our government, the stuff that's going on there.
Now, we put our thing in.
We had to show, I sent it in.
The damage it did to my pillow was to the tune of $200 million that was turned in.
And this is all going to be, you know, everyone that was on that list got hurt so bad by our own government.
But all these things when you're talking about, and then they say, well, who exactly did this for you guys?
This is so big.
It's the Uniparty, the Globalists, the Deep State, the CCP.
I don't even know how they stay organized.
It's basically pure evil.
And, you know, all we can say is that, you know, the I know justice is coming.
And, you know, it's like people say, well, you know, I can't believe you didn't give up.
I mean, don't you feel like giving up?
You know, like Alex, myself, you know, we don't give up.
We are winning.
We are actually winning because it's all getting exposed.
It's everything's getting exposed.
And I believe that there will be an end here.
And you look back and it'll all be, I always have to say, well, it's not on our timing.
It's on God's timing.
I'm not a patient person, Harrison.
If you look up patience, you don't see a picture of me there, right?
But I've had to learn that.
And because a lot of this might be God's timing or God's will.
And you really need, we needed these last, I said it many times.
If Donald Trump would have been put in back in December of 2020 or even at January 6th, if they put him back in, we would have lost our country forever.
It's not even a question, everybody.
They would have sat back, fought him, and just let those years run out.
And boom, it's right back.
It's over.
But we had the blessing of the stolen election that was so obvious that we never gave up.
We got the word out.
And then we had four years of complete craziness, men and women's sports and in Minnesota tampons in the men's bathroom.
Just stuff you go, what?
I mean, that stuff that they put out there was evil is so greedy.
And then they're ruining the economy, letting people pour in.
Remember, the first day in office, they shut down the pipeline.
50,000 people lost their jobs, that pipeline, and 13 committed suicide, but you raise the price of gas, let the illegals in, kill everybody with fentanyl, and it's over.
But you know what?
People are, we've seen what was happening these last four years.
And that was a good thing, everybody, because we got, it opened people's eyes.
It opened people's eyes.
It's a pile into this of common sense.
And I'm not talking the Republican Party.
I have more blocks over there with the uniparty Republicans, red states than you could ever imagine.
States like Alabama, Arkansas, Arkansas with Kim, I mean, with Sarah Sanders blocking us there, trying to get secure elections.
Shame on you, Sarah.
And Louisiana, South Dakota.
You're going, what, Mike?
What are you kidding me?
No, we had more, we had more, we had more, we had more headway in California when you talked to these platforms.
But all I'm saying is all these bad things that people had to see happen to get their eyes open so we can get to a great place that we're going to get to.
And no, for me, for me, my number one thing is let's secure our elections.
We can get to all these people to get prosecuted for all the crimes they committed, but we need to secure our elections.
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I'm Harrison Smith sitting in for Alex today with Mike Lindell as my guest.
I do want to read you, there's some breaking news here.
As I'm sure the audience knows, Benjamin Nyahoo is in D.C. for his seventh meeting of Trump's second administration.
And Donald Trump just posted this saying, quote, I have just finished a meeting with Prime Minister Netanyahu of Israel and various of his representatives.
It was a very good meeting.
The tremendous relationship between our two countries continues.
There was nothing definitive reached other than I insisted that negotiations with Iran continue to see whether or not a deal can be consummated.
If it can, I let the prime minister know that that will be a preference.
If it cannot, we'll just have to see what the outcome will be.
Last time, Iran decided that they were better off not making a deal and they were hit with Operation Midnight Hammer.
That did not work well for them.
Hopefully, this time they will be more reasonable and responsible.
Additionally, we discussed the tremendous progress being made in Gaza and the region in general.
There's truly peace in the Middle East.
Thank you for your attention in this matter, President Donald J. Trump.
So that's the latest.
I think that's good news.
Hey, anything short of all at war with Iran, I consider a good thing because we are definitely on the precipice of some pretty horrifying stuff.
But I wanted to bring that to you since it just broke during the commercial break.
Again, my guest is Mike Lindell.
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You guys have kept us in business.
It's been amazing.
My pillow, there's no way we could have taken that much attacks on our company.
And without you guys, then I'm going to thank you so much.
And you know, Harrison, if they, if it wouldn't have been for the people having my, having my back and having my employees back, there's no way I could have ran for governor, everybody.
I spent the last two years when these attacks, you know, four or five years ago, I built up the cause of America 300,000 people strong.
I built Landell TV, built these things as my pillow is getting attacked every day, but knowing we needed these things here.
But the last two years have been on defense, just keeping my pillow going.
Hey, we got to do this over here.
We got to do this over here.
We lost our credit over here.
They attacked us here.
But so last summer, when I told our president, I said, I'm thinking of running for Minnesota governor.
But I told him, I said, I'm not going to be comfortable until I know my pillow is safe, that they can go, hey, you guys, that they're secure, my employees.
And it didn't, and my wife and I, we prayed about it.
It got to be a little bit, I think it was right after Thanksgiving.
And I felt the peace that my pillow now, even though we're smaller than we once were because all the boycotts in the box stores and everything else, but we're here to stay.
We're still standing.
And I'm able to go over here now and put 100% into running for governor of Minnesota.
I wouldn't be comfortable if it was 92%.
I'm 100% all in it to win it.
Not just to run.
We got to win it.
And people have said, I went on CBS the other morning and in Minnesota, CBS Sunday morning.
There it is, everybody.
MichlindellGov.com.
Please help out.
That's the only thing I said, I don't, you know, the money, we need money.
I've got a great campaign that we're going to be doing.
We got, it involves half hour infomercials to educate people in what I'm going to be doing.
I'm using something I used when I campaigned with the president that I used then.
Imagine a half hour infomercial where you have people, they say in the inner city going, here's why I'm voting for Mike Lindell.
And then they formerly voted Democrat.
They do that.
And now you air this and you educate their friends and this stuff.
Wow, they're hearing it from their friends.
There is a better way.
And it works.
It's amazing.
But I'm telling you, once, you know, I had to be 100% all in where my pillow is over here safe.
And I've gotten to that point.
And I'm going to tell everybody when I went on CBS, she said she attacked me.
And she goes, well, Mike, isn't my pillow bankrupt?
I'm going, who told you that?
Yourself?
I said, you guys put out this false narrative?
No, we're still standing in spite of being attacked.
I was able to guide them as a CEO to guide them through problems that you can't even imagine, which is a good thing.
Running for governor, having a businessman that knows how in all diversity, how to stay there and keep and fix things as you go.
Not just one thing.
They said to me at one of the debates, Mike, what's one of the first things you're going to do?
I said, I'm going to do it all, just like our great president does.
He's the most multitasker I've ever seen when I spend time with him.
It's unbelievable.
It's like, what?
I mean, but you do it all.
But I will say this on the first day, I'm going to ban Sharia law, bring back our great Minnesota flag and take the statue out of our capital.
They put in a satanic statue that's sitting in there someplace that our governor said, we got to be fair.
Fair to who?
It's fair to Satan.
It was disgusting.
Fair to the devil.
I mean, this stuff is just crazy.
Well, I mean, but they, but no, the, I'm going to, and then the other thing she said at CBS, this will interest you all.
She goes, she says, well, Mike, you know, you lost $5 million on the evidence challenge that came out of one of your events.
And I said, no, the Eighth Circuit in Minneapolis in Minnesota overturned that and said, Mike was right.
His evidence is true.
It was all true.
And she goes, well, I don't believe that.
I said, well, you didn't do your due diligence.
Was a live, you know, she aired it live and she got, she had to embarrass them that they didn't do their due diligence to say, you know, hey, here's what came out.
You know why she didn't know?
Because when things come out that are good, nobody talks about it for the media.
They don't talk about the good things that happen.
And neither does Fox News or Newsmax when it comes to election.
So anyway, I got to throw that in there because it's a, I just can't stand that when we need to hear hope, everybody.
And there is so much hope going on.
But yeah, in Minnesota, I'll just give an example.
In Minnesota, 250,000 people voted for Donald Trump in the 2020 election.
They didn't even bother to get out and vote in 2022.
You got everybody out there, you guys, this election coming up is the most important in history of a midterm election.
You know, there is nothing even close.
We can't have all these good things just be in vain.
And I'm talking about everybody out there in every state.
And what can you all do?
You know what?
You get out there and you tell your friends, your family, your friends, everybody just going, tell them how important this is.
And everybody needs to get educated wherever you're at.
This crime and these election crime is in every state.
It's right in your back door.
But we have to get to the SAVE Act is so important right now.
You need to get, if you know these, you know, anybody there, everyone's got a voice, send their opinion in, put it on social media.
We all want this.
They did a poll.
79% of Democrats want this passed.
Did you know that?
I don't, you know, it's a big thing.
Everybody wants secure election.
The only ones that don't want secure elections are the uniparty deep state globalists that are trying to steal our country without firing a shot.
This is where we're at, everybody.
You know, Amy Klobuchar, who I'm running against in Minnesota, Amy Klobuchar, this powerful Democrat, right?
That's, by the way, that she was on, it was under her watch.
This all this fraud happened.
But she was the most boisterous person ever of a Democrat going, we got to get three four machine companies control our election.
We've got to get rid of them.
And she named them in the movie Kill Chain.
But you know what?
She didn't get sued, did she?
She didn't get sued.
But then her voice fell flat on that.
All of a sudden, she's okay with that.
He's okay with these machines all of a sudden.
You know what I was looking forward?
You got to ask yourself, everybody, isn't it strange that Donald Trump wins this last election in 2024 and none of the people on the left complained and said, hey, maybe there's rigging going on or computer problems?
I was looking forward to that going, maybe they'll have a bigger voice to say, hey, let's open up those machines and see if this really happened.
You didn't raise your hand and go, hey, there's fraud here.
You know you're telling us now on a stage that you were there and you and you tried to do it.
It doesn't matter what you do if you don't get the word out and get the people knowing about it.
One of the things I will tell you everybody you help me out with this my my with Mike at Michlandellgov.com i'll tell you I will be the most transparent, loudest governor this country has ever seen, just like our president, just like your breaking news.
He gets out of a meeting with Netanyahu and we know it right away.
What happened, where is it going?
The people need to know what our government is doing and you have a transparent governor or government, i'll tell our president, i'm telling you, when i'm president, or when i'm governor of Minnesota, people go, well, what do you?
You know well, how are you going to take care of this fraud?
Well, i'll tell you one thing, to get stuff done, you even though, even though you might have the Republicans or Democrats, whatever it is, in their party, i'm not a politician, i'm a, i'm a businessman.
And i'll tell you what.
When i'm getting blocked, I get a phone call, hey, we're getting blocked over here in sector three.
I'll get on that phone and get it on blocked, and and i'll tell you, we get blocked by things.
I'll be right out there going giving their names out.
Hey, you guys, we got this thing going on here and they're they're gonna put um, um tampons in the bathrooms in here and we're going, and this person wants to do it too.
They're gonna.
You're gonna know their names of people that come up with this craziness.
I mean, this is bizarre.
You know, you need, you need transparency to the public going, otherwise just sit back.
You know, you know, I gotta say the genesis, even if I, even if I disagreed with you politically, which I obviously don't, but like somebody like you is who needs to run the state I, I just cannot believe that anybody would, uh would not trust you to say the bad things going on.
I mean, clearly you have made a a career out of this.
I, I would think you could put you in charge of a state and the corruption would actually disappear, because you wouldn't stand for it.
And even if I didn't agree with you politically, I would trust you to actually take care of that absolutely.
You know i've been in the streets with no eaten, with no forks, or all the way up the ladder.
I go from one extreme to another and you know, when I was, after all this election, fraud and crime, I all over this country, I put in 750 hours when I did have my plan before I had to sell it, 750 hours in 12 months with four pilots and I wore them out.
They couldn't keep up.
We're landing here, going in here and telling these politicians, but one of the things you need to know is I didn't just go for Republicans or whatever.
I went.
How about in Georgia?
This nice lady that got?
There were three Democrats ran And she got zero votes in her own precinct.
Zero votes.
You know, if they'd have gave her three for her daughter and her husband and herself, the day and age we're living in, now they'd have said, I'm sorry, ma'am, nobody loves you but your family.
But instead, they had to open up.
They actually had to look into machines.
Corrupt Brad Rastenberger down there, the Republican Secretary of State, one of the biggest traitors this country's ever seen in history.
He opens it up.
Oh, yeah, yeah, it was a programming error.
Why are you programming our elections?
You know, I mean, so this is where now we have a platform, we have voices, and maybe things would finally get done because things get tied up in politics.
Oh, yeah, we're going to vote on, oh, well, we're on a break.
We're going to take a break for a month and a half.
No, you're not.
You're going to get back in there and get to work.
The people are working for the people.
It's disgusting.
Get in there and get this nonsensical thing.
Don't you people have families?
Don't you people have relatives that want to live have good lives while we're still here before we go to heaven?
You guys are, what's wrong with you?
You got to call these people out.
It's just nuts.
And a lot of them are out of fear, out of fear.
You know, these politicians that are in there, when you're making, they asked me the other day in Minnesota or when it was debates, well, Mike, what do you, you know, you better lighten your up about abortion or whatever.
I'm going, I'm going, I'm pro-life.
I'm a born-again Christian and I'm not changing just to get some crazy votes on the left.
Coming in just saying, you know, five years ago, you couldn't say, oh, ban Sharia law.
In Minnesota, all these Somalians that have come in, that's even the bigger problem than all the billion.
The billions they sold is a good thing because now we can say, hey, we got a bigger problem.
Ban Sharia law.
We shouldn't have our governor shouldn't have our Moscow ringing bells from Minneapolis, keeping everybody awake on some call to hour or whatever it is.
And mighty closes the Christian churches during the China virus.
It's disgusting.
And these guys take it over.
They're not assimilating here.
They're getting in our classrooms in Minnesota and some of them don't even speak English.
And you can't discipline anymore if the students doing bad because that's not right.
So all the rest of the students suffer.
And this is if you can't come here.
And here's what happens: you take all the ones that committed this crime, you put them in prison.
Then you over here, you take all the ones that have overstayed their visas or heal, boom, you ship them out.
And whatever's left, you better assimilate here and love our country.
And there are some, I've met some that are here that are here legally and they're working, they're hardworking, but they're assimilated.
They're not covering up and they're not doing all this craziness and telling us that they got to, you know, shut down your working lines and your business.
Let's shut down and just everybody five times a day to go do what your religion said.
What if I had a religion that said, everybody, for five hours at exactly three o'clock, you're going to shut down everything and nobody does a thing.
You can't even put gas in your car.
That's crazy.
Or if I, you know, our religion says, you know, there's one thing, freedom of religion, but let's not forget we're one nation under God and that God is Jesus Christ.
Because I mean, Minnesota has become like a byword for corruption at this point.
I mean, Amy Klobuchar is one thing, but then you get into Keith Ellison and the governor, of course, now, Tim Walz, who isn't even running again because he's so embarrassed at the failure he represents.
So, I mean, what do you even do to whip that state back into shape, man?
You enforce, you bring back law enforcement and you enforce the protester laws that are already there.
Minneapolis has some of the best protester laws ever.
You can't stop people on a sidewalk.
You certainly can't stand in the middle of a highway and block off the highway.
You arrest them.
Gross misdemeanor.
You do it again, a felony.
That's it.
You enforce them.
Now you bring back the safety.
You bring back law enforcement.
Now, the other day in Portland, this guy was walking through Portland and goes, this is now the safest city in the world.
You know why?
Nobody's downtown.
It's empty.
It's a ghost town, just like Minneapolis and a lot of other places that become.
Here's the next thing you do.
You take these welfare programs.
Okay.
This is my wheelhouse.
I've worked in Minneapolis and St. Paul and Rochester and Detroit for 17 years.
I have a beautiful program for these.
First, you check them all out.
You see which ones really do it, give a good return on your investment.
Let's not forget of all the people that that money was allotted for, right?
That do need help.
And you have an end game.
But we set up a thing.
It's almost like a give, send, go.
I set this platform up probably 10 years ago now.
And we used private sector money and we tested it in Detroit.
It's people want to give in the private sector, but they want to give to certain things that they're partial to, whether it be addiction or whatever.
And we worked with the teen challenges, the salvation armies and Union Gospels.
But anyway, we did this is saved 46% or 44% of the money that would have normally cost the government.
Now, I was the government.
I put my money around it.
But if you didn't have that private sector money, you would have, you know, it had all this more expenses.
So I'm going to install that in downtown.
I'm going to also do another thing.
We get people off the street.
It was another thing that was done by Ben Carson, but it got shut down before the China virus when he was the Secretary of HUD.
And it's an amazing thing where you pull the people out the streets.
You got it, you put them on federal ground and you sort them.
You've got the addicts that now you get them the help they need into your teen challenges, your salvation armies.
You get them the help they need, the faith-based centers.
Then you have the people that have mental problems.
They were all our mental institutions were shut down in the early 1970s because of a movie called One Flew Over to Cuckoo's Nest.
When that came out, everybody said, go back to your families.
We don't want these centers.
Well, we need them back because there's over 20 million people in the streets that have mental problems.
And our president just two weeks ago said, hey, we need to bring them back.
And then so then you get those people help they need.
We have modern help to help them.
Then you got the other ones that are just out there homeless and just not working.
There's a way to get them jobs.
So now you do that.
Now, here's the next thing.
I'm going to completely ban or take away sales tax in Minnesota.
No more sales tax.
You need to bring people an incentive to go in the box stores and go into these small businesses where they don't have to pay sales tax because they're competing with Amazon and my pillow online, right?
So you can pay higher sales tax up here and you eliminate the sales tax at that level.
We've got to get people off their phones and get them back into these stores because that's what keeps our economy going.
And if you hit that piece that people are forgetting, that's a huge piece, everybody.
The schools in Minnesota, they're all bonded.
They get bonded in some big Ponzi scheme.
Then they put up more bonds.
And when they run out of money there, they raise your property taxes.
That's the way in a lot of states.
This has to be looked at big time and fixed.
And I have a final fix for that.
You do that.
It's like looking at each sector of a business.
Get them property taxes eliminated or at least down.
And by the time the programs I'm putting in that I already have access to, and let's not forget, I have federal access to our current government.
I know everybody.
They're on my phone.
I don't care.
You name one person in government there and I've got connections to them for their help where we work together with our federal government.
You don't push them back.
You work together.
So you guys, it's michlandellgump.com.
I can use your help right now because I'm not waiting for primaries and stuff.
Who's going to win of the Republican?
By the way, I'm polling number one with the Republicans.
Just came out two days before I got here in Mar-a-Lio.
You guys, go out there, my pill, MikeLindelgov.com and you've got to support this man.
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A single email unearthed from the sprawling Jeffrey Epstein document dumps has sent shockwaves through anyone paying attention.
In 2003, investigative journalist Edward J. Epstein, no relation to Jeffrey, but a longtime chronicler of espionage, cover-ups, and institutional deceit, Edward Epstein reached out directly to Ghelane Maxwell with the casual yet loaded invitation, any interest in joining a proposed shadow commission on 9-11?
This wasn't some random outreach.
The former Harvard professor was floating the idea of an alternative inquiry into the attacks, one presumably free from the constraints and compromises that plagued the official 9-11 commission.
What diminishes the idea of a conspiracy in my mind is not that one can't think of a good reason why one couldn't put a conspiracy together, but it's the passage of time.
One has to take that into their reckoning as we covered, you know, decade after decade.
Maxwell's inclusion on the invite list speaks volumes about the overlapping circles of power, influence, and potential blackmail that Epstein's operation allegedly cultivated.
Why would a man known for dissecting government whitewashes think the partner of Jeffrey Epstein belonged on such a panel?
The official 9-11 Commission report released in 2004 has long been accused of being a carefully curated exercise in selective truth rather than unvarnished accountability.
Glaring omissions like the collapse of the World Trade Center Building 7, ignored Saudi connections to the hijackers.
Eyewitness accounts of bombs by Barry Jennings in World Trade Center 7.
Entering Building 7 together before the strike on the South Tower at 9:03 a.m., Jennings and Hess were surprised to discover that the office had been abandoned.
Receiving a phone call from his superior, Jennings was warned to leave the building immediately.
Descending via the stairwell, Jennings and Hess reached the sixth floor before an explosion blew them back up to the eighth floor, trapping them inside the building.
After seven years of investigation, the National Institute of Standards and Technology, NIST, determined that the building had not come down due to explosives or controlled demolition, as many alleged, or due to structural damage from the collapse of the Twin Towers, an explosion in the building's fuel oil systems, or any of the other suggestions that had been put forward and retracted by NIST over the course of its investigation.
Instead, NIST spokesman Cheyenne Sunder insisted that the building had collapsed due to ordinary office fires.
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For the first time, we have shown that fire can induce a progressive collapse.
The commission's own co-chairman, Lee H. Hamilton, later admitted significant limitations, including restricted access to classified materials and pressure to produce a unified narrative that avoided rocking too many boats in Washington, D.C. If it's an act of war and it's hiding things, which everyone on your commission knew that the Pentagon was changing their stories, lying to you, and it's a cover-up of an act of war and under Article 3, Section 3 of the Constitution, it's treason.
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So unless we get to the very bottom of it, then we're still talking treasonous exposition.
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And with that, I'm very happy to welcome my guest, Mark Mitchell.
He's the VP and Director of Polling Operations for RasmussenReports.com.
And it is, you know, the system that attacks people who tell the truth, but it's also people who are sort of like emotionally thinkers, you know, weak-willed, unable to deal with reality.
And I deal with reality.
I'm not a Republican cheerleader.
I'm an independent pollster, and I put out commentary, but it's all based on numbers.
So you might disagree with my commentary, but I'm going to show you the numbers, too.
And you're welcome to make your own assessment.
And it's just wild how many people just in the last like week thought that somehow that they could call me a sellout or they could say I've lost the plot or they could all of a sudden decide to switch over to a mainstream media pollster in order to like avoid the truth that I'm telling.
And the truth is, is that what Donald Trump did in the last week was like flashing red warning sirens bad for his polling, like very, very, very bad.
His job approval rating got down to 41%.
And it went back up to 45%.
It happened over a course of a couple of days.
And it almost exactly lines up with Google search trend volume for the term Epstein, which is now being searched five, six, seven times more than it's ever has in history.
The word Epstein was searched more than the 2022 Winter Olympics, the entire period when it was going on.
This is not something that Donald Trump's just going to be able to sweep under the rug.
It's a cultural touchstone moment.
This is the youth zeitgeist.
And it's one of the reasons that Trump got elected, a blowback for a system that is broken, overreach of the Biden administration, the fact that there's a two-tiered system of justice and people like don't think that their bettors are held criminally accountable for literally anything.
And I really think, I really think that that overestimates a potential Republican turnout because we're in a period where people don't necessarily change party as much.
I think it's more driven, especially for low propensity voters on enthusiasm.
And if Donald Trump looks like he doesn't understand why he's got elect, he got elected, there's going to be a real enthusiasm problem that might not even show up in my polling.
And it all comes back to Epstein, which I'm sorry.
Like, I'm sorry the way they're dealing with it now seems a little bit like a betrayal.
It doesn't even make, you know, at least if you get betrayed and you see Judas walk off with the 30 pieces of silver, you go, okay, he got something from this, but they're betraying us and they're just screwing themselves in the process.
So it makes even less sense than a typical betrayal.
But, you know, we played the clip earlier today.
Pam Bondi's asked about why they aren't going after Epstein's co-conspirators.
And her response is the Dow's up 40,000 points.
And it's like, it's almost the perfect, you know, microcosm of what's wrong with the Trump administration.
There's no economic, you know, first of all, the economy is not as good as they say.
The stock market's not reflective of our conditions on the ground.
So that doesn't even count.
But it doesn't matter how good the stock market is if you've got a bunch of pedophile rapists running around controlling the world.
So like, what is wrong with it?
Why is that message not getting through to Trump, do you think?
Well, you know, I tried to get that message through.
As you know, as Alex know, they invited me down to the White House and I talked to them.
And also I was screaming all the way back at the beginning of Epstein.
And people might not like really understand the depth of why this is a betrayal.
And it all comes down to leadership.
Now, you talked about the economy and we've had this like performative economy where everybody in the past has been able to focus on things like the Dow Jones or the GDP number and feel good that the president's doing a good job.
But because we have this late stage capital, global homo kleptocracy, you know, corporatism system that squeezed all of the rent out of the middle class and shipped all the jobs overseas, you increasingly have all of the wealth concentrated at the top in a way where most people don't have stocks.
And, you know, people said that this was a reference, like they wanted Trump because of the economy.
They say rising prices was their number one issue.
But if you look into the polling, the polling actually says, well, there's deeper problems.
There's a lack fundamentally of trust in the federal government.
Only 30% trusted the federal government.
Like existential things like the, are you better off than you were four years ago numbers were the lowest we've ever seen.
People don't think today's children will be better off than their future.
So they wanted Trump for the economy.
But when he said things like retribution and drain the swamp, like I will fight for you, like these are the things that really resonated.
They wanted a systematic reformer.
And so Donald Trump got in.
And I just, I think it's objectively fair to say that we're not seeing somebody that's attacking the system.
And when he did, when he did Doge, Doge was super popular and his job approval rating was super high with the under 40 voters.
He got up to 60%.
What is the under 40 approval rating right now as of last Friday?
It was 34%.
So he went from 60 to 34%.
And that's not bad.
And it's because he's, again, fundamentally betraying, in my opinion, the like values that he ran on.
And so, for instance, if you look at Epstein, somebody could say nobody cares about Epstein.
Well, because Americans crave fairness and a two-tiered system of justice is one of the least popular things we've ever pulled on.
95% of America thinks it's important that your elected leaders be held to the same standard of account as everybody else.
And so this is the most egregious example we ever could have seen.
That yes, the system is in many ways profoundly rotten.
And yes, these people will all skate.
And the first time I really started screaming, I did it on Alex's show.
He gave me like an hour, and we went into the field after Pam Bondi said the case closed.
And it's like, no, only 16% say the case is closed.
68% of America says there's dozens of powerful and wealthy offenders who need to face justice.
And it was a completely bipartisan signal.
So if you want to get Democrat and independent votes, you have to understand that like they think this is what's going on.
And you can't like make a magic wand and change these people's mind.
Brute forcing public opinion is really, really hard.
It takes a lot of effort.
And so for them to say, oh, we're moving on, America's like, no, no, we're not.
We haven't dropped this yet.
They still think, and maybe there isn't.
Maybe magically nothing illegal or evil or demonic happened down there.
Maybe that's the case.
But then they have to make that case.
And we're seeing it over and over and over again.
Donald Trump not sounding like he did when he ran.
Look at Kash Patel.
He's going to shut down the FBI and make the Herbert Hoover building a museum of the deep state.
And then he gets in, and objectively, that did not happen.
It's like, okay, well, maybe that's good.
Maybe that's bad.
Well, the polling says it's very bad.
Trump voters do not trust the FBI.
In fact, they trust it even less.
And we see this.
The polling explains why people see what the FBI did with the, you know, the Charlie Kirk stuff.
They see what the FBI is doing here and the redactions.
And they're like, this stinks.
It's even worse.
Like now, the system is being allowed to continue, and the curtain is being rolled back more and more every day.
So the temperature of the pot of water that the frog is in continues to increase unabated.
And you could say, well, like Mark, you're not focusing on the right things.
And why don't you talk about his jobs number?
And okay, we'll see if the job number changes the polling.
But this better off question, I think this is our story today.
I think it's very important to point out that it's like, yes, Joe Biden was a bad president, objectively bad.
He did bad things.
It was bad for America.
Yes.
But when America tells you that Donald Trump is a worse president than Biden, that's a referendum on Donald Trump, not on Joe Biden.
You could say, well, look at all the things Joe Biden did.
But America's looking forward at Donald Trump and Republicans and saying, what does our path look like?
And yes, Donald Trump has done very good things.
He has done very good things.
But we just asked literally like yesterday, it has been about a year since Donald Trump became president again.
Are you better off than you were a year ago?
And only 38% say yes.
And that's the exact same number that said yes at the end of the Biden administration.
So that number has not gone up.
Now, have some of the Republicans gone up and some of the Democrats gone down?
Yeah, of course.
But the independent number, only 33% say better.
60% say worse.
And so independents who basically Trump won because he won almost half of independence have completely turned on him, like just absolutely, completely, fundamentally turned.
And it's like, oh, well, Republicans have the right value set.
Republicans just have to vote harder.
Republicans just have to register more people.
And it's like, well, no, Donald Trump like got this huge wave of crossover Democrats and independents who are not Republicans.
They don't care about the Republican Party.
They don't care about traditional conservatism.
They just want the system fixed.
And it's like the under 40 voter.
That's how you go from 60% when you're burning down the government with Doge to 34% when it looks like we're run by satanic cannibal pedophiles.
Like that's, I mean, it's the most obvious thing.
So like, I tried to convey this.
Like, this is, in my opinion, I'm trying to figure out the right way to say this.
It is about leadership and vision.
And he needs to be able to sell to America that by voting Republican in November, that there is a clear path forward that will solve the systematic issues we have.
And I said that on November 18th right to his face.
And that involves not talking about the Dow Jones when people don't want to be ruled by satanic pedophiles.
Like that's really what it comes down to.
And I like, I mean, I could just go on and on and on.
The polling of this is like, we ask when thinking about the economy, which is the most important aspect that must be improved.
And more jobs, 17%, higher stock market, five, higher corporate profit, six, lower grocery and energy prices, 47%.
So people are still just strangled by costs.
And he could say egg price is all he wants, but it's like that's not going to fix it.
And people don't understand.
It's like, I can't afford my life.
Groceries, like insurance, the cars, everything's more expensive.
And when I look at the person that's leading my country and I decide whether I'm going to vote for his party, he's like, listen, we got the egg prices down.
That is just not this, it's not the sales pitch.
The sales pitch needs to be like, look, we understand the problems.
Like, look, I'm not part of the problem.
And I think in many ways, Donald Trump, subconsciously, to a lot of folks is perceived now increasingly to be part of the problem because he's trying to sweep this under the rug.
And even economically, we just did a poll.
Do big businesses have too much or not enough influence in the Trump administration?
And people said too much, 50%.
Only 10% say big businesses has too little influence.
I know Rich Barris has asked the same question about Israel, got very, very, very similar results.
And so it's like he promised to fight for America.
And Americans need to see that the person that they have to put all their support behind is going to fight the things that matter.
And the S ⁇ P is not the thing that matters.
I just tweeted about it.
And like, I'm glad he brought that clip up.
It literally sounds like let them eat S ⁇ P, like Marie Antoinette.
And there's so many things about this midterms that make it ultimately important, right?
The fact that if they win, they're going to impeach Trump.
And that's going to be it for America as far as I'm concerned.
Because I mean, we've been over that a million times.
But then there's the fact that Trump came in with this wave of support and he had a mandate to do so much.
And his failure, the disappointment in the first year is so massive.
And he's not doing himself any favors.
And it's like, you know, I wouldn't say, I wouldn't tell him to be dishonest, but it's almost like, dude, why are you even just pretending to be going after Epstein?
Like, it's just politically, wouldn't it be a better move to go, look, I don't want to actually go after Epstein, but I'm going to pretend I am.
And that's why I bring it up too, because I like, I don't actually want Trump to be lying.
I want him to actually be doing stuff, but it just highlights the absurdity of Trump's failure to grapple with this, what should be, what should have always been a golden goose for him to make him the hero of the Republic for rounding up the satanic pedophile ring.
Instead, it's gone, it's flipped and it's just bonkers.
When it comes to the midterms, we know that Susie Weil's plan is to have Trump treat this like a presidential election and get out there on the road because they understand it's about turnout.
It's not about necessarily convincing people to flip parties.
It's about convincing your party to actually get off their butts and go vote.
It's always the way with midterms.
Does Trump even have the poll and the gravitas for that to be a valid strategy at this point?
It seems to me like people are just going to be mad at him and yelling things at him and going, get back to DC and get to work.
Dude, we don't need you in Kansas doing a barn burner.
So, I mean, what do you think about that strategy for the midterms?
Well, you know, it's harder and harder to predict the future with how loony politics is getting.
And I hesitate to try, but what I will say is like the upside case is, okay, we don't have any, we don't like have any flagrant miscommunication problems or unforced errors.
And we get past the Epstein thing, something else happens.
Hopefully it's not like a messy regime change, right?
And people, maybe they get the messaging together.
Maybe they, well, now I hear reconciliation is dead, but like they get a few laws passed with reconciliation.
And then maybe the economy starts to heat up.
And we got some headlines about wages going up.
Maybe the job market gets hotter.
And like, I mean, like, that's what it would take.
And everybody looks around and is like, you know what?
Our problems aren't as bad.
Things are going in the right direction.
And the Republicans did get us here.
Maybe there's some wagon circling and maybe the generic ballot tightens and maybe, you know, reverses the trend that it's had.
And maybe Democrats somehow don't get $3.5 billion funneled into Act Blue between now and the midterms.
Like maybe lots of maybes.
Maybe that's the best case, right?
The worst case is like there could be, and again, maybe the best case is like we go to war with China and everybody rallies around jingoistic pride and like maybe that's it.
Like I don't know.
But the worst case is there is a possible path where there is very brutal blowback for, you know, because that's the one thing.
People stuck with Donald Trump through literally everything.
I mean, they Teflon Don and a lot of stuff and people stuck with him and said, no, he's ultimately got my best.
He's not perfect, but he's got my best interest in heart.
And so that aspect of like a core betrayal of the base.
And I don't know looking at the country right now, we haven't pulled on Epstein yet.
Again, we're going to do it in the next couple of days.
Like, how are people, they're consuming a lot of this content and what are they going to focus on?
And what are the lightning rods that get stuck up?
And that's the issue is that there's going to be these symbolic moments that just drive how public opinion plays out between now and then.
And one of them could be Trump being heckled at a rally about Epstein because of something that just continues to persist that they can't.
force away.
They need an Epstein strategy.
I know that sounds like horrifying, cynical political strategist talk, but they need an Epstein strategy, like clearly, in order to get to November.
And like the rallies, that's, it's just high risk.
And here's the thing, too.
It's like, is it high reward?
Because the rallies like drew people in because they were like people liked the optics of the rallies.
They were good.
They were rebuilding a movement to save America.
And you were getting a lot of like normies, independents, maybe some like blue collar, some union workers to show up.
And are they going to want to go to those rallies just to hear Trump talk about the GDP and the S ⁇ P, like the union workers, you know, like Republicans got unions for the first time.
And so it's like, well, we need to focus on making those people happy in this new big tent.
And instead, it's like, oh, what we want to be perceived as success already so that we can tell people the job is done, mission accomplished.
And the mission accomplished didn't work out very well for Bush.
So like, I don't even know.
You look at George W. Bush numbers and they were horrifying at the end.
But George W. Bush still had like a whole lot of Christian conservatives that just liked him and stuck with him through a lot of stuff.
So Minnesota, in my opinion, was such a political gift because Doge was so popular and then the Republicans got rid of Doge.
They really just kind of got rid of it.
And it was the biggest mistake they probably ever made.
And then all of a sudden it's forced into the news again, right?
And so America fundamentally still wants all the illegals gone by a pretty strong majority.
It's like 30 points, net points more popular than Trump is.
But then there's been increased, you know, blowback about the ICE tactics.
47% of plurality say ICE is too harsh.
Only, you know, in the 30s say not harsh enough.
And so it's like, well, they're telling you they don't like the way it's panning out, but they still want it fundamentally.
And we flooded Minnesota with ICE and made it even worse by giving them an opportunity to have all these optics with the protests, which is not like we don't want red meat here.
We want resolving the core problems with America and increasing tension in a way that makes ICE look like the bad guy is bad.
And so what did Trump do there?
He sort of lost the plot that fundamentally Americans still want what he promised, which is less legal aliens.
And he immediately sort of like caved and started talking about soft amnesty and started like, you know, he sounded like a billionaire oligarch on this.
Oh, we're just going to, and you know, a strategy decision must have been made behind the scenes because across the board, they started using the phrase criminal aliens.
And this is the same movement that made fun of people for using undocumented immigrants, right?
Like it's corporate newspeak.
It's like it's 1984 stuff.
Well, now we're using 1984 tactics to defend low wages for workers for the party that just got unions for the first time.
And so obviously the answer out of this is raid the freaking businesses.
It's not hard.
The polling is off the charts, popular.
Raiding businesses is like 40 points more popular than Trump is.
E-Verify is like 60 or 70 points more popular than Trump is.
And the Republicans were just given all this low-hanging fruit.
And it just seems like they're either not getting the polls or they just don't care.
I can't wrap my mind around it because people like yourself, Rasmussen Reports, I mean, you are giving them the roadmap to success and they just refuse to follow it.
So, you know, I don't know how you lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
I think you're dead on about everything.
I think you have the right mindset.
We got to focus on reality here, not the fantasy that they're trying to push forward because nobody's buying it.
Thank you so much for being here with us.
We could go on and on.
I know you're a busy man.
Mark Mitchell, you can follow him at honestpolster on X and RasmussenReports.com.
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But I did want to show this because it goes into what he was talking about.
What we've all been talking about, the scams, the scam artistry that is tearing this country apart from the inside.
Josh Hawley at Hawley MO, Senator Josh Hawley, says that we lose about a trillion dollars in scam, you know, being scammed out of our tax money every single year.
A trillion dollars.
We human beings almost can't even fathom how much money that is.
But let's go to this video.
This is Josh Hawley talking about just the sheer madness of the unrelenting scams bankrupting us at full speed.
So you're telling me that the electrician who goes to work every day and clocks in and works his butt off and tries to earn just enough to be able to make his rent, maybe have a kid or two, put food on the table, his tax money is being used to buy other people luxury items, cars, yachts, whatever else, and is going to fund terrorism and child trafficking?
It's used every single day in the commercial sector.
Front-end identity verification.
You just don't get to say, I am who I say I am.
Second, recertification of all the recipients.
There is so much fraud right now in the benefit programs all across the country.
We need to get a baseline.
Third, is these this notion of a third-party independent audit, and finally is involving federal law enforcement like the Secret Service to investigate it.
The thing that people don't understand is that most of these beneficiaries, Senator, they're not real.
They're fake.
They're someone's stolen identity that is getting used in all 50 states.
Because I've done the comparison before because you hear these big numbers and you hear them so much, it just sort of becomes nothing.
It's just static noise.
And it started when we heard that George Soros had donated $18 billion to basically destroy America from the inside out.
And I remember just thinking, like, what does that even mean?
What is $18 billion?
What could you get with that?
I didn't even have AI at the time.
I was doing it, you know, by doing the calculations by hand, but it's like you can buy every castle in Europe that's for sale, thousands of them.
You can buy every private island in the world.
You can buy stadiums and, you know, sports franchises and space programs.
And it's like you're still not even halfway to $14, $18 billion.
Now multiply that by, what would it be?
100?
Trillion is 1,000 billions?
It's like, can you even fathom what is being stolen from us?
When you hear a trillion dollars stolen, it doesn't really connect with anything in your brain.
How about they've stolen a million high schools, 10,000 top of the line hospitals, a billion libraries?
Like you have no idea what our country could be like if we weren't being robbed relentlessly.
And let's remember, we're just talking about the fraud.
That's not even accounting for the infinite amount of money that we pay for welfare, which shouldn't be going to the people it's going to.
For the infinite amount of foreign aid that's going to just kill Russians on the other side of the world or try to take down Iran for whatever reason the demons decide.
I mean, how much of our wealth is just siphoned away?
And then you think about all the NGOs that are funded by the government.
They're not really NGOs.
They're GOs, actually.
It's just we don't have any oversight over them.
It's worse than being a part of it.
They're funded by the government.
They just don't have to abide by the same rules of the government.
It's the worst of both worlds.
But they're, you know, a multi-billion dollar industry in this country.
And then you think about all the people that are employed directly by the government or subsidiaries of the government or contractors with the government.
And again, you get down to like, okay, what is it?
4% of our entire population is actually engaged in for-profit endeavors?
What is the number?
It can't be more than like, I mean, I think 25% is way too high considering all of the money that goes into, I mean, you talk about education, government-funded, you talk about, I mean, it's all government funded.
So like, who's actually making the money?
Who's actually producing the prosperity?
It's like less than 10% of America is somehow funding everybody else endlessly.
And this can get so much worse, by the way.
If you look at the numbers of South Africa, it's beyond ridiculous.
It's like literally 5% of people pay the taxes for everybody else and 80% of the people are completely dependent on the government.
It can get crazy, folks.
Like when you really set up the systems of exploitation, you can take a very small number of prosperous, hardworking people, and you can fund just infinite laziness.
It's really wild.
And that doesn't even count for the trillion dollars of fraud.
That's just an additional expense on top of it.
I think we should burn the whole thing down.
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I think we need to burn the whole thing down at this point.
You get to a certain point with legacy systems where you go, no, we're not reforming this, actually.
I think we need to scrape it all, which is sort of what Trump was talking about doing at one point.
I'm not sure where it ever went, but the idea was that the fraud was so bad with welfare that just they were kicking everybody off and everybody had to reapply.
That'd be a great way to do it.
Just go, you know what?
We're cutting it all off.
Nobody's getting a check.
Now you can come and reapply and you can bring your ID and we can confirm who you are.
But it seems like something like that is the only way for this to work.
Because right now, the spigot is running endlessly and we just got to cut it off.
There's no like piecemeal solution to this.
It's got to be a holistic decapitation of the fraud regime.
Now, I've got some breaking news here.
Minutes ago, I'm very annoyed at the news I'm about to bring to you.
As we've been talking about throughout this entire program with all of our guests, the SAVE Act is of the utmost importance.
It is hugely popular with the vast majority of Americans, Democrat and Republican.
Democrats support the SAVE Act or what it implies that you have to have an ID to vote.
Something like 75% of Democrats support it.
Something like 85% to 90% of Republicans support it.
And yet it has just failed.
It has just failed on the House floor.
The Save America Act, mandating voter ID, oh, passed.
Oh, wait a second.
I'm wrong.
It did pass.
I read it wrong.
Okay.
I'm sorry.
I'm telling you, this literally broke like 30 seconds ago.
So I misread it and I was really mad at Thomas Massey.
I still kind of am.
But it looks like it passed the House.
Okay, I misread it.
I'm still mad at Thomas Massey, though.
The Save America Act, mandating voter ID, passed the House.
Good.
216 to 215 with Thomas Massey voting against securing elections.
He's the only Republican that voted against securing elections.
Like, dude, what?
Why?
Why can we not?
Okay, whatever.
It's fine.
It passed.
It passed.
Okay, that's good.
It passed.
I thought for sure when I first read it, it said that it didn't pass because Thomas Massey voted against it, but it passed despite Thomas Massey voting against it, which is just like, why would you not vote for that?
What I, you know, I'm like defending Thomas Massey against claims of Trump derangement syndrome earlier, but then he goes and votes against the Save Act and it's like, what the hell is going on here?
How can we not just have people that are good on everything?
It's very weird.
Thomas Massey's the only Republican pushing for the Epstein files.
And again, just it just is the height of absurdity that it's even up for debate whether this passes.
That every single Democrat voted against something that 75% of their constituents do want to happen.
Explain that to me.
They're demons.
That's right.
That's right.
It doesn't need to be explained.
We already know that they are, in fact, demons.
Now, I got a lot of other big news to get into, including, I really, you know, I didn't think this was going to happen.
I got to be honest with you.
I thought they were smarter than this.
We covered yesterday the religious freedom, religious liberty committee that the Trump administration put together and that it kind of knocked off the rails by the participation of somebody who was not willing to concede that criticism of the nation state of Israel was in fact anti-Semitism.
It was a Catholic woman named Carrie Prejan Bowler.
And she didn't say anything offensive.
She didn't say anything anti-Semitic.
Now, she got treated to a lot of vicious, hateful remarks from the likes of Laura Loomer, who were denigrating not just Carrie, but the entire Catholic faith.
Being like, why don't you go cry about it in your little box, in your little confessional box?
It's like, Jesus Christ.
So, I mean, but you didn't hear anything from Carrie like that.
Kerry wasn't going and, you know, sitting at the White House Religious Liberty Committee going, you and your little tiny hats and your stupid wall.
It's like, no, you had none of that.
She very politely and very respectfully asked, is anti-Zionism anti-Semitism?
If I am a Catholic and have a spiritual conviction that the modern nation state of Israel has nothing to do with the blessing of Israel that God gave to Abraham, if I can say in my religious belief, Zionism is not good and not of God and actually against his plan, does that make me a hater of Jews?
Does that make me an anti-Semite that needs to be silenced?
And she asked that question in a more polite way than I just did.
And she basically was hounded about it and criticized about it endlessly.
And she has now been kicked off of the committee.
According to Dan Patrick, Lieutenant Governor of Texas, I'm sad to say, Kerry Prejan Bowler has been removed from President Trump's Religious Liberty Commission.
He says no member of the commission has the right to hijack a hearing for their own personal and political agenda on any issue.
It's not what she did.
This is clearly without question what happened Monday in our hearing on anti-Semitism in America.
This was my decision.
That's absolutely not what happened.
It was a question of about religious liberty.
And the greatest threat to religious liberty in America today is the Zionist lobby attempting to conflate anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism and to ban anti-Semitism and to write laws against anti-Semitism.
I don't know how many times this has to be exposed.
This should really be Civics 101.
The First Amendment has five freedoms.
The first of those five freedoms is the freedom of religion.
And the freedom of religion contains within it both the right to worship your God as you see fit and also to criticize, mock, denigrate, hate other religions.
Obviously, obviously.
If the Catholic Church runs a country and is the state religion of a country, you know, they might force you to go to church.
They might force you to worship in a Catholic method, but that's usually not what they're going to do.
What they're going to do is just punish anybody criticizing it.
They're going to hurt anybody that tries to stand up against Catholicism or tries to preach something in opposition to Catholicism.
But typically, like freedom of religion isn't violated by somebody forcing you to be Christian or forcing you to be Catholic.
It's almost always a matter of you're allowed to criticize this power structure.
You're allowed to speak out against religious beliefs of a certain sort.
That's why we have the First Amendment.
Not to only protect Jews being Jews and worshiping in a Jewish fashion.
That's part of it.
The other part is everybody else gets to say this is stupid and bad and wrong.
And I have religious convictions that are completely different than that.
The commission has done outstanding work through five hearings.
Two more are scheduled.
The testimony has been both illuminating and heartbreaking.
Under the Biden administration, Americans of all faiths had their religious liberty not only stolen from them, but were often punished for standing up for their faith and education, the military, the private sector, and even the ministry.
This spring, the commission will deliver one of the most important reports in American history directly to the president.
The president respects all faiths.
He believes all Americans have a right to receive the great inheritance given to them by our founding fathers in the First Amendment.
I'm grateful for President Trump for having the vision and boldness to create this commission, fighting for the word of God.
Religious freedom is what this nation was founded upon.
Leading this fight will be one of his greatest legacies.
But they've just kicked a woman off of the Religious Liberty Committee for her religious convictions.
I think I might need to say that again.
They just kicked Karie Prijan Bowler off of the Religious Liberty Committee because of her religious convictions.
I mean, what are we doing here?
What exactly?
I'll tell you what we're doing here.
We're setting up a delusion, an illusion, a giant game of, you know, puppetry, of manipulation in which criminalizing anti-Semitism is being put forward as freedom of religion.
That they're saying that unless criticism of the Jewish people, the Jewish state, the Jewish power structure, Jeffrey Epstein and his Jewish friends, like if you don't crush that and shut that down, then therefore you're violating the rights of Jews.
That is literally the opposite of what the First Amendment says.
And what you're doing by trying to make anti-Semitism illegal is in fact setting up blasphemy laws for a state religion, which I think every single kindergartner at this point knows is in violation of the First Amendment.
Obviously, you don't have a state religion, except we kind of do at this point, except kind of in a de facto way, we actually do have a state religion.
It's Judaism.
So religious liberty be damned, I guess.
Again, I didn't think they would actually do that.
Because you would think that with all of the outrage against the Jewish censorship that's going on, on top of the fact they're trying to get us into a war with Iran, on top of the fact that Jeffrey Epstein and all of his friends are calling all non-Jews goys and eating them, you would think that they'd have enough intelligence in this group to say, hey, it's not a great look if we expel the one person actually standing up for religious liberty on the religious liberty panel.
But apparently they're so confident or deluded that they think this is a good idea.
It's not.
And I'll tell you, I was having a conversation with a noted, very prominent Jewish figure online yesterday texting me about something.
And I said, look, dude, I'm genuinely concerned about how y'all are handling it.
Like, I'm genuinely concerned about having Shabos Kesten bomb on the Religious Liberty Commission so he can sit up there and claim that no children in Palestine ever died and that you should arrest people for anti-Semitism.
It's like, you understand what you're doing.
You understand how this appears to the rest of us, right?
This is a bad idea.
So my advice, my advice, if you want to stop anti-Semitism, I actually have a solution for you.
It's actually, it's actually pretty great.
Here's what you do: use all that power and all that influence and support America and Americans.
You hear that?
Tell you what, instead of paying people $7,000 for tweets that argue in favor of Israel, how about $7,000 for tweets that support the U.S. Constitution or something?
It's like, everybody would love it.
Everybody'd be in favor of that.
You just got to stop trying to destroy the First Amendment and then playing the victim when you do it.
It's actually not that hard.
And this is sincere advice because I want to see us come together and defeat the evil people, not tear each other down endlessly.
But at the end of the day, it's 99% Democrats in there.
It's the European elite.
They're the ones that basically wrote the book on this crap.
It's all coming out.
And we, the people, the populist Christians of the world, have been vindicated in spades.
And that's why we've been attacked so much.
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So I'm cutting this live on air on Tuesday, February 10th.