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Alex Jones Show: Massive Global Internet Outage, House Votes To Release Epstein Files, Trump’s DHS Launches Historic Task Force To Find & Rescue The 450K Children Trafficked By Biden Admin Into US! Plus, Saudi Leader Visits White House! - FULL SHOW - 11.18.2025
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alex jones
Well, the Epstein files are going to be released by Congress.
And of course, there's endless Epstein files forever.
Because there's always more investigations and more court cases and more tranches of files and grand jury information.
But the public, it's the files, the list, the customer list.
When what it is, it's a giant CIA massage State Department money laundering operation.
And even Mike Benz, who's a great researcher, and has worked for the administration, has access to a lot of that stuff, says, oh, yeah, they need to classify everything at the State Department about him and you'll be blown away.
He was CIA, folks, not just Mossad.
And that's why Trump has done all this and really hurt himself, the American people.
Meanwhile, every file that comes out, it's all the Democrats being bad.
But it doesn't matter because Trump joined himself to saying, oh, just move along.
And I understand why he did it.
I don't agree with it, but I understand the logic.
And I predicted the disaster it would cause.
Big developments on that front, so much more.
Saudi Crown Prince visiting the White House.
And wow, a lot of great stuff Trump's doing.
Stay with us.
Well, a few weeks ago, we had one of the biggest internet outages in history with all the connectivity that means all sorts of infrastructure.
Well, now there's been an even bigger one.
These are both two of the biggest in history.
Internet crashes again, cloud flare outage, unusual traffic spike hack.
Yeah, you think so?
Internet crashes again, cloud flare outage, unusual traffic spike, a hack, question mark.
And this is just becoming more and more of a regular occurrence.
We're putting more and more of our infrastructure into automated internet-controlled systems and AI-controlled systems to the point of where humans won't even know how to operate machinery or do anything or farm or even wipe our own butts, which is planned obsolescence.
We're being phased out.
And that's really the larger 35,000-foot view that we should be talking about more here on air.
I mean, we've trailblazed here on the broadcast with our guests and information the last 30-plus years, warning about the technocracy and the globalists wishing to replace us with machines.
And now there are public admissions of it everywhere.
But this isn't something off in the distance.
Like you hear a train somewhere way off in the distance.
You're not even sure if it's coming down the railroad track that's by your house.
But you know when you hear it close up and then it turns the bend and it's nighttime and you see the light on the front of the train.
Well, now the technocracy is 20 feet away from us and we're tied to the railroad tracks.
And the technocrats are tied down with us and they built the system to make us obsolete.
They built it to dumb us down.
They built it to replace us.
They say they have The vast majority of them, in endless statements in the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, the WEF, the Silicon Valley meetings, they've really written off humanity, most of them, other than Elon Musk and his little configuration of tech people.
And I'm not saying it's little in its power, but I mean, there's not many of them.
And even, you know, Elon himself is at the forefront of the technology.
He's warning about it, though.
And in the areas he's all involved, deploying it in a pro-human direction to a great extent.
I mean, do you like X better than Twitter?
You know, you like Trump better than Kamala?
You like Elon helping ram the issue of the West depopulating itself, collapsing to the forefront, and now major government initiatives being passed to pay Westerners to have children, and it's actually starting to work?
No, Elon Musk has moved the needle for Team Humanity.
And that's what I look at.
Is Trump moving the needle in general in a pro-human, pro-family, pro-freedom, pro-capitalist, pro-expansionist system?
And absolutely.
Do I agree with every angle of what he says and does?
No, of course not.
He's a very complex person, a lot of complex information.
And I'm sure sometimes when I have a different policy idea than Trump, I'm sure somewhere sometime I was wrong, but not many times.
And this whole fighting with Thomas Massey and fighting with MTG and all of that is only going to drive a wedge into the MAGA movement when we need maximum focus and unity on exposing the Democrats and dismantling the deep state and getting the massive tax cuts in that have happened and securing the border and continuing that and stopping the wars and stopping the electronic voting machine fraud, the mail-in ballots.
I mean, we've got a big job to do, but the job of being slaves under the globalists is way worse than taking action now.
But people love a fight.
People love a soap opera.
And that's where we are.
But when I talk about this Epstein thing first, and I'm not going to spend much time on it, I'm going to move on.
There's a lot here.
It's a big guest today.
I'll tell you about in a moment.
This issue of Epstein, you know, I call it a skeleton key.
It opens every door.
Look through the keyhole.
You can see the wider thing on the other side.
Or the Rosetta Stone where they could finally decode the Egyptian hieroglyphs.
They didn't know what it meant until they got it.
There are certain issues that when you really understand them, then you understand the wider systems that surround it.
And remember when Trump first got in and he said, yeah, we could prosecute Hillary, but I'm just going to move on.
She's out of power.
Obama's out of power.
We're just going to save the economy in the country and bring our culture back.
And we're just not going to fight them.
We're going to ignore them.
Well, that's a high road, but they had people inside the government.
They ran all the criminal operations against you.
They tried to get you killed, tried to put your main supporters in prison and did in many cases.
So, see, sorry, you want to be nice.
You want to take the high road.
That's not how this works.
Okay.
And so it's the same thing.
Now, this time he said, no, we're going to throw all your asses in prison.
And now he's in there telling the DOJ publicly and privately.
He's like, no, get them.
We have all the evidence.
Tulsi Gabbard's delivered it all.
And so he's kind of like a guy who's paralyzed from the neck down, where so much of what he wants to get done, he can't, because he doesn't have the manpower and doesn't have the people that will actually execute what he's saying because they're just swallowed up by the bureaucracy and the swamp that, hey, act like you're doing what he says for a couple of years, and then we're going to be back in power and we'll give you a seat at the trough.
And that's what's happening, you know, with Todd Blanch and Kash Patel and, you know, all the rest of it.
I mean, it's just classic corruption.
And the Democrats are so psychotic on such a power trip.
They're not going to let Trump ride off of the sunset.
And they're not going to let any of us do that.
I mean, they're coming for everyone who doesn't sell out to them.
And, you know, I've had the DOJ, I'm just going to leave it at this, you know, reach out and like, well, we want to talk first, but then if you're open to it, meet and find out why you're upset.
Let's be friends.
Oh, sure.
I've already done this before.
And I'm not talking about Ed Martin.
I'm talking about his boss.
And I'm just like, there's no point in that.
I know who you work for.
I know what the different games are.
You either want me to sell out.
You think I'll do that.
Or you want to be able to tell Trump, oh, I talked to him.
It's okay.
We're going to look into it.
We're going to do something.
I mean, I'm not going to waste my time.
I know who you are.
Okay.
So don't try your tricks with me.
I'm just surprised over the last 20 years.
I've been on there 30, but they've been really trying to get me to sell out different arms of the globalists.
I mean, Henry Kissinger wanted to hire me.
British guy in the world wanted to bankroll me before everybody sued me.
And they said, you'll be sued if you don't take this deal.
It's just countless times.
I was offered Fox new show.
You'll be the new Limbaugh.
Turn that down.
Different arms of it try to come and buy you off.
And I just can't believe that they've never figured out that it's impossible for me to sell out to you.
I can't do it.
Now, while I work with people that overall have pro-human policies and are trying to reform things, even though I don't agree with everything they're doing, I mean, look, he's never offered, but if Elon Musk said, I want to bankroll and media operation for you and put you at the head of it, I'm just fantasizing a billion bucks a year.
I'd be like, yes, sir.
And I'd be like, but I'll be able to say what I want.
And sure, of course, that would be the thing.
But that's fantasy land.
The point is, is that I'll compromise on general little stuff if it's going the right direction.
But you can't do it on people that want a post-human world and people that literally want to destroy our children's innocence and people that want to open the doors to the West, which is the hope of the world, and turn it over to the worst elements of Islam.
I mean, this is satanic stuff, folks.
And I tell you that because there's no compromising with the devil.
It doesn't work that way.
Okay.
You can compromise with real, legitimate people that have a track record of thinking they're doing the right thing and having success in it.
And it aligns closely with you.
That's completely healthy and normal.
But you cannot compromise with people that don't compromise in the end.
They always want you to give up what you stand for, and then they'll cut you in on some robbed goods or won't destroy you.
But you get destroyed in the end, anyways, and you lose your soul, your integrity, what you stand for.
So Trump has intense integrity when it comes to not being bought off or pushed around.
Now, when he sees regular legal business deals and things he's doing, he goes and does them.
We've had many wealthy presidents like George Washington.
He continued on.
He was the richest man in the colonies when he became the commanding general of the Revolutionary Forces, and he was the richest man in the colonies when he died.
And that's because he inherited a bunch of it and then used that money, kind of like Trump.
They gave Trump $100 million or something.
He was like 25, out of college.
It was less.
It was like 10 million and made 100 million.
But the point was, George Washington inherited stuff, but George Washington made way more money as a young man leading prospecting teams, carving out what became the new states in extremely dangerous territory and serious end in fighting.
And so he was like kind of like a Davy Crockett guy, but he got really pissed off because they'd never give him a commission in the military as an officer of the British.
And so he was in these other paramilitaries and things.
And boy, he showed them, didn't he?
Kind of like Trump, never runs for office, runs and becomes president.
George Washington, decades and decades and decades.
I mean, he did work under the British, but he was like attached to it, and they didn't give him the promotions he wanted was the point.
And then he sure showed them.
So self-made.
So when they go, oh, Trump's got Bitcoin deals and all this other stuff.
It's all legal.
It's all completely kosher.
It's all above board.
But he's not going to take money.
He doesn't take money and then you get something from him.
If he likes your business and everything, he'll come right in.
And sometimes people have done business when they go, hey, I did business with you.
Now you need to do this.
And Trump goes, no, that's not how it works.
But listen, I'm digressing.
The point is, I know how Trump operates.
I know him well.
He means well.
He's really smart in many areas.
He's pragmatic.
But they came to him and said, this is CIA Mossad, State Department, which is above CIA.
And now Mike Benz is bringing out the documents, the information, and calling for everything else to be released.
You know, the real tranche, exactly.
The real bucket of the Epstein files is where did the FBI go with all the thousands of hard drives and DVDs and VHS tapes.
You notice you never hear that being talked about by the leftist media.
And, oh, what was he being paid secretly and given houses and facilities to use how he saw fit at State Department facilities around the world?
See, the real bosses are at the State Department.
Then they tell the CIA what to do.
So when you look on the paperwork, no, he wasn't officially CIA because he was State Department.
Remember what Hillary Clinton wanted to be?
Oh, I'll just take the State Department.
She was co-president with Obama, and she basically ran foreign policy.
Yeah, national security blocks Epstein file release.
So we got that coming up and a lot more.
I've got the clips, but now no matter what Trump does, they're always going to say he covered it up.
I mean, and he's involved in evidence.
I mean, look at Drudge Report.
It's all innuendo.
Virginia Jufree said Trump was always nice to her, never did anything to her, kicked Epstein out of the club when he recruited her long ago.
But then there's the brother up there being political.
Brother.
And that's the brother of Epstein.
He definitely had dirt on Don.
Total innuendo from the brother of the person that absolutely hates him.
Bondi will use national security claims to scrub the files.
Well, again, I told you this before Trump got back in.
And now everything I told you is confirmed.
Ratcliffe came to him.
I talked to people that were there and said, during the campaign, even you're going to win.
And this is run by the State Department.
CIA MI6 facade under it.
And it's massive money laundering and payoffs of world leaders and payoffs of academic leaders.
That's one of the bad men was Larry Summers, the head of Harvard.
And then it turns out he was with us Fing Fang Fang, another, just like Swalliswell, Chinese intelligence, the daughter of one of the top leaders in China.
I mean, you can't make this up.
I told you, the young girls is like an hors d'oeuvre.
That's not about compromise.
They all go to compromise each other.
That's like peanuts at the bar, you know, beer nuts.
That's just there.
No, the real thing is spies and networks and payoffs and everything.
Larry Summers goes into hiding messages, sought Epstein's advice on cheating with daughter of CCP official.
Cheating, it's not the cheating.
I mean, boy, let me tell you something.
That's the main muscle of the Chinese is their sex operatives.
And they just deploy their daughters 100%.
And I can tell you some stories, but I'm not.
Maybe I should.
No, I'm not going to tell it.
Gosh, I was going to tell you.
Anyways, so notice it's all about Democrats.
Oh, looky here.
Bill and Hillary refused to appear before House Oversight Committee for Epstein depositions.
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alex jones
And they're all over the emails.
They're all over the stuff that the Epsteins turned over.
And this has all been cherry-picked.
Even though it's been cherry-picked, 99% of it makes the Democrats look bad.
There's nothing about Republicans.
You got Epstein with Democrat congresspeople during hearings, feeding questions to the congresswoman and others.
It turns out he was involved with others, having no idea what she's even talking about.
Feeding questions to Michael Cohen.
So you've got Jeffrey Epstein through a congresswoman as a puppet asking questions.
See, this is spy stuff, folks.
This is influence stuff.
And if you think 14 and 15-year-old girls is the bottom of the barrel or is the bottom of the rabbit hole, you're really mistaken.
It's baby farms or assemuation or assembuiate.
Assanguiation, I believe is the proper word, to assenguiate.
When a spider sucks all your juices out, you've been assanguated.
First, it puts blood thinner and tissue thinner, kind of an acid in that liquefies the bug and then finally kills it.
And that's when the timer goes ding and the spider sits there and comes.
You'll see spiders that have a bug wound up.
They'll come and put a leg on it.
I always tell you the story.
It's interesting.
And they're checking for a heartbeat.
And then they'll come back up a little bit later, you know, throughout the next few hours or day, depending on the species of spider.
And then finally, when it comes over and the heartbeat's almost gone, it goes delicious.
That means it's almost been fully liquefied.
Ah, so what Peter Nygard and all of them do is they get women, poor women, rich women, you name it.
I mean, Nygaard was so high in.
He's like, hey, we just have black supermodels because, you know, they've got, you know, Central African genetics is the hyperdominant, meaning not recessive.
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Okay.
alex jones
So the stem cells are the best from pure black Africans.
And so, but you want, and this is old technology, but it's what they're doing because it works.
You have sex.
These old men like to it themselves, Nygaard and the rest of them.
Just come out of court.
But sometimes it's just so industrialized for other men.
They just, the frozen sperm comes into their island of Dr. Maru, Moreau, out in the Caribbean, where Epstein had his island.
They got their islands.
And it comes in the big medical clinic with nurses and everybody.
George Herbert Walker-Bush used it.
You name it.
Worked with Nygaard.
Look it up.
And so they get the woman pregnant, either the old-fashioned way or with the long straw you put up in there and do it with.
And then you got a baby with dominant genes for the stem cells to be like 100 times better, they say.
Just way better.
But it's got your genetics too, so it goes right into your body.
Yeah, look at him like 80 something years old.
So that's high end, folks, okay?
That's the high-end stuff.
And so these are beyond vampires.
These are vampires that kill their own children.
So please, Virginia Guffrey and all this stuff, you think that's the bottom of the rat hole?
No, that's not the bottom of the rat hole.
The rat hole, oh, and Peter Nygaard, way bigger than Epstein.
There's a bunch of these guys.
That's why they want to get P. Diddy out and why they're asking Trump to commute him.
Oh, P. Diddy was run by the CIA.
100%.
And there are too many lawsuits, too many witnesses.
It blew up.
So the FBI came in to indict him with a limited story just to control it.
And then he'll be let out.
And that's not Trump.
That's what he's inherited.
So I'm going to finish up with this in Mumbai.
Got big guests today.
I'll tell you about that when we come back.
But if you're a new listener, and especially on radio and you're hearing this, you go, this doesn't sound real.
The crew just types in whatever I say, they're just pulling it up on TV for you.
You can watch him talk about: we have babies with black women to have the best stem cells, and we drain the baby.
And that's it.
They drain everything, every juice, the bone marrow, everything.
All of it's injected into their veins.
We'll be right back.
Stay with us.
Here's what they're trying to hide about Epstein.
He ran a State Department, CIA, MI6, Mashad operation giving life extension technologies to the ultra-rich and the heads of major universities and government.
And yes, if you wanted to have sex with underage girls, they had that.
If you wanted to kill children, they could arrange it for you.
They would subcontract that.
You know, if you wanted to rape and kill an eight-year-old girl with black hair and blue eyes, I mean, this is the type of orders that go out, according to Ted Gunderson.
And everything he said's basically come out now.
And when he said it, he had most of the proof.
Underground auction centers in Vegas.
I mean, you name it.
And he would give the example of he saw the order and they said, we don't like a seven, eight-year-old girl, black hair, blue eyes, and we're going to torture him to death.
So that was just one case.
I mean, he literally saved like bandloads of kids, saved kids out of CIA torture dungeons, busted the huge CIA command base in D.C. facility with satellite uplink, snuff films, everything.
But the CIA had been given the tip.
He was, the FBI was coming, so they got out about a few hours before.
I mean, this is all the stuff people obsess over Epstein.
He's just one spider web of this.
This is a bigger, bigger webs.
And so it's just frustrating to me to watch the media play the ignorance of the public.
And the public hears the files.
We'll finally know when Congress releases it.
And now when it comes out, they'll go, oh, wait, there's other files.
Yeah.
And there are grand juries, all that.
Democrat judges blocked Trump when that released.
And Trump says, I'm sick of it.
It's over.
Move on.
Horrible response to it.
But the reason I'm getting into this is to understand the bigger picture.
MTG, Trump really started turning on her.
And she said this herself, but I saw it.
Not over her fighting on a few votes here and there when she was compromising with McCarthy and whatever Trump told her up until recently.
And she finally said, hey, come on now.
And she has a lot of power, her and the few of the Republicans with such a small majority.
You know, they can basically veto Trump sometimes.
So that's why he's angry at him.
But she was right to tell Trump in the last 10 months, publicly and privately, listen, you got to just say release it all.
We know you're not in there.
We know they've got a few things they can claim are embarrassing or spin, but just let it come out.
And Trump's response is to her and to us on air: if you don't like it, you're not MAGA.
Well, Mr. President, when you knew they were going to cherry pick all this stuff and play games last week, you say, fine, release it all.
And it's the Democrats.
And by the way, I want them criminally prosecuted.
Now, again, you just did a 180, and you've done them on this before, and I know why you did.
And I told you they'd turn around and stab you in the back.
But this is an example for everything else going on in our government.
Not just with Trump, but the local level, state level, your own personal life, just in life.
It always seems simpler to, you know, sell out a little or okay, you know, not expose all the evil because, you know, it's so horrible.
And plus, the system's run by corrupt people, so they won't even get in trouble anyways.
But you got to keep exposing him regardless because it convicts him in the court of public opinion and it gives courage to other people when you have courage.
That's why I've never compromised or sold out on anything because I understand history.
I understand my mission.
And so I've been very critical of Trump over this.
And for all of you that called me a traitor, long before he called MTG a traitor, for all of you that blew up at me and said, we're done with you.
How dare you not stand with the president?
You know, this is all the Democrats have had these files.
It's fake.
It doesn't matter.
Then meet them head on.
And now he agrees with me.
So see, as usual, I'm right again, print me that article.
All right.
So let me finish up with this, and then I'm going to move on to all the other news.
We have Eric Bowling coming on in the fourth hour to have a discussion debate about all the things that are happening in the world.
We have Patrick Byrne, who's very hooked in and very intelligent on what's next with Venezuela and Mexico.
We have Trump coming to the last part of the green light to start striking Mexico.
The U.S. has already launched a color revolution down there that's very popular and has the people's backing, but you know, the State Department, CIA are involved.
And so is the CPP, working with the drug cartels to wipe out the mayors and people that are capitalists and put in CCP mayors.
And I know with the Grouper folks who I don't attack you and you do some good work and I'm not, when I come out and say CCP in Mexico, and then you flip out and you go, oh my God, you're obfuscating for Israel.
You understand it's on record that China's building giant ports and huge highways and is the main backer of Mexico now and the socialist and communist parties down there.
I mean, you do understand they're shipping in the weapons.
They're bringing in tons of Chinese nationals.
They're the main partner of Venezuela, Colombia, Cuba now.
It's not Russia.
You understand these are facts that aren't debated.
If you go read policy reports at the State Department that are public or the Pentagon, Eric Prince is out talking about it.
I know her name is Sheinbaum, and I know they spray painted, amongst many things on the wall, Jewish whore, Puta Judea.
And I'm not saying there isn't a powerful Jewish lobby in Latin America that tends to be part of the ruling class all over Latin America.
And there's a ton of Jewish names that aren't Spanish names.
And she's from Los Angeles.
I don't know how she's the president down there.
And she is a globalist, WEF, climate scientist.
But it's all the same thing.
It's all interchanged.
The WF, the ChiComs, the New World Order, whatever.
But that's just another microcosm of you've, I'm literally telling you the U.S. is in a proxy war, color revolution.
I predicted months ago, look for a revolution in Mexico next, ahead of the bombing campaign.
I mean, I'm telling you, like the real policies of what goes on in the real world here.
You know, I say we're going into Venezuela because it's to kick China out, and we've gone into Panama to kick China out.
And I see, why are you covering up the Jews?
It's China.
You can learn more than one word, more than the word J-E-W.
And Nick Fuentes has said this, your leader, who is geopolitical and is very smart.
And now Ben Shapiro is all mad at Steve Bannon for saying Nick Fuentes knows his stuff.
Listen, I've been studying this stuff 30-something years before Nick Fuentez was born.
We can disagree on, you know, issues of this or that.
But when it comes to foreign policy and it comes to factoids and all the numbers and the Middle East and all that, he sounds like an expert at the State Department, but from his angle.
And so Bannon has said, when me on air with him, and recently said, man, that kid really destroyed Dinesh D'Souza.
I mean, just annihilated him because Bannon is really smart.
And Bannon has a clear map of all these different sectors.
And even on air, and I think off here, I thought about Bannon.
He's like, man, I couldn't even say it that good because I know all those pieces, but God almighty, there's very few that do.
And the way he laid it out, and they asked permission, of course, I was like, permission to air anything, you know, to air that debate several times on their network because it's powerful.
And D'Souza's smart, but he was just doing talking points.
My point is, is that, is that the big main superpower we're fighting is China.
And you notice I played those rabbis and stuff and Netanyahu, and they write best-selling books in Israel, that China is going to help crush America and that America is the enemy.
And because we're the new Rome and because Rome sacked Jerusalem in 70 AD and destroyed the temple, we deserve to die.
And that is a large sector of rabbinical teaching.
And then you saw Netanyahu endorsing it, saying America's the new Rome and we got to beat Rome this time.
And then who do they say is going to help do it?
China.
Are you using your little ding-dong brains now?
Okay.
China, if you've got to connect to the Jews, it is at that level.
So there, now you can be worried about China.
I know you want to say puto Judea all day, and it just thrills you, you know, to see that spray painter.
How about WEF extermination globalist whore?
The point is, is we need to move into a position of stabilizing the planet, a big tent coming together and not be the young Turks last week saying, we need war.
We need to get rid of Israel entirely.
We knew that's where you were going.
And even if you believe that's the right thing to do, it's not happening.
Live in the real world.
Be adults.
You have the crazies over in Israel that believe that America is the new Rome.
We need to be blown up and that China's going to do it.
And then they look like they're having orgasms on TV when they talk about it.
That's crazy town.
And wanting to blow up Israel.
It's crazy town because it'll trigger nuclear war.
They go, oh, they got the Samson option.
If they get hit, they attack.
Yeah, we have it too.
It's called MAD.
Oh, you're defending him again.
No, I'm just being real.
China has mad.
Russia has mad.
UK has mad.
France has mad.
Everybody's got mad.
They don't call it mad because Israel always does it different.
They call it Samson.
Which makes sense because, you know, Samson brings down the temple because, you know, he's, you know, he's been enslaved in there, running a wheat grinder for 20 years or whatever it was.
The Pharisees or the Philistines or Philistines got a little sloppy.
Didn't trim his hair, so he got his strength back and brings the temple down on him by pushing down the columns.
Well, we don't want to push those columns down and kill everybody.
So that's where we are.
But back to the Epstein thing.
It's now all over the news.
And we got Mike Benz saying, if I get that clip ready, I'm going to play Trump attacking MTG, her responding back, it being used by the left now.
This is not good.
And then a lot of people say, well, Trump will win.
He'll crush MTG.
Oh, like he crushed Elon Musk.
How'd that work out?
It literally stalled out a lot of what Trump was doing.
Now he's figured it out.
I was right about that.
That was bad.
We have to influence the Trump administration or the neocons and globalists and all the different lobbies will.
So for those of you out there that are amateurs that think mindlessly supporting whatever Trump's doing at one moment is smart, you're not even sophisticated.
And you've got to be ultra sophisticated to understand this stuff and navigate it.
And what I'm saying is not even that hard to understand.
And then we'll go into Mike Benz talking about the fact that he's been given the read-in on all this, but he's got, he's had security clearances name it, the top advisor to Trump analyst, you name it.
So he always has to come tell you stuff in general terms.
He's like, if you want the real Epstein files, release us at the State Department.
And it's all Democrats, folks, all Democrats.
And it's bad.
And it's payoffs in the billions and billions a year.
It's bizarre life extension stuff for rich people.
And I told you this about Epstein like 16, 70 years ago, that they had islands and they were doing life extension.
They were doing all these weird medical stuff because it was known by sources that some of it had come out here and there.
And then people go, oh my God, Alex Schultz is right a few years ago.
Epstein was obsessed with cloning and repopulating the earth with himself and having facilities with hundreds of women with his genetics so that they could that was just the cover story.
You know, they had all these women having babies so they could harvest their blood, their blood marrow, everything.
And again, you need a baby in the different studies that has your genetics.
So if you just get some other baby's stem cells, essence put into you, it has incredible health effects, youth, longevity, you name it.
But it can cause all sorts of autoimmune disorders.
There can be problems.
But if you take a Central African black woman and you have sex with them, whether you're black or white, whoever you are, and then you make a baby with them, it makes it, you have to look at the studies yourself.
It overwrites it.
It makes it super clean.
It works way better.
It doesn't have any of the bad health effects.
And it's literally, you know, Cal Dracula feeds and he looks 10 years younger.
I mean, it's the real deal.
I mean, pull up Nygar to get him like 80-something.
Looks like his body looks like he's 30 and in shape.
And that guy was literally draining his own children.
But it's legal because you kill them in eight months.
Harems of black women producing these babies for him.
Now, how sick is that?
So that's all in there.
So the point is that he's flying around on a jet with surgeons all over him with a bunch of black women carrying his babies so he can drain them.
And that all came out in court.
But nobody wants to talk about that.
I talk about it all the time.
No one will pick it up.
No one cares.
It's all God, the emails.
Oh, oh, Epstein.
unidentified
Oh, oh, oh.
Steve Bannon went and had an interview with him.
alex jones
He did an interview with him.
So let's go ahead and go to the clips.
I got to stop because the crown princes arrived from Saudi Arabia.
I don't want to explain what that alliance is all about.
A lot more ahead of these big guests coming up.
But go ahead and roll the clip of Trump calling her a traitor again, her then responding.
And when she says, no, traitors take money from foreign countries over their own country's interest.
And that's an oblique attack on Trump.
Though I've looked at all these deals Trump's done, and they've all helped America.
He'll do a deal with the country if it helps them too.
But I don't think Trump is a traitor.
I don't think MTG is a traitor at all.
But she is going on all the liberal shows.
And I think this is her trying to get out of politics.
I think she's sick of it.
She's sick of all the corruption on all the sides.
She didn't tell me this.
But from what I see, I think she knows the Democrats would destroy her and come after her later.
And I think MTG is pulling the escape cord, pulling the rip cord, hitting the ejection seat, and getting out.
Because she was worth hundreds of millions of dollars, very successful construction company, really nice lady.
And I just think she wants to go to the beach.
That is my gut-level analysis of this.
And but again, what she told Trump to do to release the stuff out of Congress, he got mad at her.
Now he's done it.
So how is she a traitor?
It's just stupid.
No.
The Clintons are all over it.
All the big Democrats, the hedge fund heads, all of them, and they're running scared.
They're refusing to answer subpoenas, any of it.
They have stuff to hide.
So why didn't Trump burn him?
Because it's the State Department.
It's National Security.
And that's why he's so pissed.
He's like, I'm not even in there.
And then I shut this down because of National Security, which they now admit.
And then you turn around and lie about me?
And then he looks to his constituents and says, hey, this is a setup with them.
You're an idiot.
If you listen to this, you mean it's a setup to put you in it.
Yeah.
And then you set yourself up, believe me, they wouldn't stab you in the back.
And I keep going back to this because I was right.
I've been the person that told you this when he got re-elected.
What was happening?
What was going to happen?
The choice he had to make this fake deal.
They stab him on the back or just release it all, which they're not going to release.
So it doesn't even matter because he already cherry-picked it.
So that's why you say release it all because they ain't going to release it because the bureaucracy already destroyed it.
But it would still be the right moral move to say do it.
But instead, they all lawyered him and manipulated him and did all this.
But Mike Benz is right.
What there is that they don't want you to know about is the State Department that he worked for the State Department and the CIA.
And of course, Mossad, but we have the documents here on that end.
And Mike Benz is like, yeah, let me tell you, that's where, yeah, yeah.
So Trump is the president.
I should put this very front of the show.
I say this right now.
I've been right about this all along.
I predicted everything is now unfolded.
Mr. President, you're the right thing to release the files out of Congress, which are just emails, cherry-picked, we know that.
You're the president.
You can order the State Department that Epstein worked for running a CIA operation with Mossad and MI6.
You can order it all released.
And you might send federal marshals in to grab it themselves because we know the State Department and bureaucrats will try not to follow your order.
Marco Rubio seems to follow your orders.
You may have to go oversee it.
They found all these files he said six months ago, my name on it, being targeted with 12 other people.
I haven't seen that release yet, but the point is, go ahead and release it all.
And people already know it's the CIA.
They already know it's Mossad, okay?
And then now they'll know it's not you.
Screw them over, man.
Stand up.
Really give them the devastating right uppercut, a jawbreaker.
You're telling the DOJ to go investigate the Clintons and Larry Summers and BlackRock and JP Morgan.
They're not.
It's all that stuff's already been hidden and destroyed.
You're barking up the wrong tree.
Release the State Department files.
And you got them.
And people are like, wait, it's CIA files.
No, no.
The State Department's above the CIA.
It's where the real power is, okay?
That's the answer.
If you really want to defeat these people, teach them a lesson, bring the guilty to justice, because then it'll unravel the whole thing, and get a higher approval rating and save the country, then attack!
Go to Trump, then MTG, and then Mike Benz.
Here it is.
unidentified
Her life would be a danger because of the rhetoric.
donald j trump
Her life is in danger.
Who's that?
unidentified
Marjorie Taylor Green, he says.
donald j trump
Marjorie Trader Green.
I don't think her life is in danger.
I don't think, frankly, I don't think anybody cares about her.
marjorie taylor greene
I was called a traitor by a man that I fought for five, no, actually six years for.
And I gave him my loyalty for free.
I won my first election without his endorsement, beating eight men in a primary.
And I've never owed him anything, but I fought for him for the policies and for America first.
And he called me a traitor for standing with these women and refusing to take my name off the discharge petition.
Let me tell you what a traitor is.
A traitor is an American that serves foreign countries and themselves.
A patriot is an American that serves the United States of America and Americans like the women standing behind me.
mike benz
When you look at, for example, the close relationship between Jeffrey Epstein, the Clinton family, and the Ahud Barak Israeli Labor Party, it is patently clear that if the Central Intelligence Agency and the State Department were to do a sweep of all of their files, communications, records, a simple name trace of Jeffrey Epstein's name, the voluminous scale of the documentation, I think, would be enormous.
The State Department rented out a physical property to Jeffrey Epstein personally in the 1990s.
You and I can't just get the State Department as our personal landlord after seizing a mansion from the government of Iran, to say nothing of Epstein's work during Iran-Contra with both the U.S. and Israeli side of intelligence through the Adnan Khashoggi link or through what was being done in the 1990s between Bill Clinton and Ahud Barak when he was the prime minister there.
Jeffrey Epstein setting up the Clinton Global Initiative, and she goes on to be Secretary of State.
For some reason, they are not pursuing this lead, and it is maddening to watch from the outside.
alex jones
And now, mainstream headlines: national security.
Yeah, we'll be right back.
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All right, one more thing that's really important that I need to hit on the Epstein hysteria and firestorm.
They're now all over the corporate news saying, when I told you, oh, national security, the State Department, the CIA, they've been asking Trump not to bring it out.
I told you that before he got re-elected.
It was already being talked about.
I told you when he was president-elect.
I told you the last 10, 11 months when he was in.
That's what's happening.
And now Trump's just said, screw it and just release everything everywhere.
He already told them months ago, release the grand jury stuff.
Two Democrat judges blocked it.
So they're the ones blocking it and playing these games until now.
Speaker Johnson, you know, has tried this amendment to block names of the innocent.
That isn't just people they say are victims, but others.
This is how Speaker Johnson plans to protect perverts who went to the rape island from embarrassment.
This is Congressman Massey speaking in Kentucky.
Do not let the Senate add an amendment to avoid disclosing those rich and powerful men who have evaded justice for so many years.
It's Johnson calling all victims non-credible.
This is what he's hanging up on the office doors and putting up on TV, on C-SPAN.
Dangers of discharge petition in the House.
So Johnson says he's for it, but then there's this proviso: victim privacy does not adequately protect victims.
Number two, innocent persons risk disclosure of non-credible allegations, creating new victims.
CSAM fails to adequately protect against the release of child sexual abuse materials.
Four, future investigations can mess those up, expose whistleblowers and sources.
That's really true, but they're not doing anything.
So what's that mean?
Well, now Trump's ordered the OJ to go out from home.
Number five, declassifications require release of information that could reveal confidential methods and sources, and that's State Department CIA right there.
So I told you what it was.
We've known it's not a rumor that he was CIA.
He was above that.
And so there you have it.
Yep.
Smithers says Kyle Seraphin's worried about classified information, which is couched in language that already gives them an out.
Sniveling, weasel behavior, he says.
Yeah.
And so that's why Trump did all of this.
And it was a mistake.
And now he's been connected to things with no evidence that he never did.
And so, for all of you that got mad at me in the last year saying they better get this right and better not use the option of cover-up and backroom blackmail of the deep state to make them go away, they were going to double-cross you, Trump.
And they did it.
And I just hope and pray it doesn't bring down Magazine.
I hope it doesn't make the Democrats win the midterms.
But that's where we are.
But if you think Trump's order to the DOJ to go after the Deep Standers is going to go anywhere, don't hold your breath.
All right, we covered it.
We'll be right back with Trump meeting with the Crown Prince, the leader of Saudi Arabia.
Straight ahead in 60 seconds, stay with us.
So now that the House has passed releasing the Epstein files that Epstein's brother handed over, just tens of thousands of emails, nothing bad about Trump in there, horrible stuff about the Democrats.
Johnson's run to the Senate trying to get an amendment to block out a bunch of the names for national security purposes because Epstein worked for the State Department that was over the CIA, and that's where all the real classified stuff is.
That's where the real Epstein files of what he was really doing are money laundering, paying off politicians, corporate leaders for the State Department, particularly for the Clintons and Israeli intelligence Ehud Barak.
So that's what's going on.
And as I told you a year ago, before Trump even got back in, I said he's going to put Ratcliffe in, and they did this during his first term.
They are going to come to him and say, you cannot release this national security.
And then he watches that very same deep state turn around and try to connect him to it, which we knew they would do.
Now, Trump's gotten a lot more sophisticated than he was his first administration.
He admitted it was all he didn't know.
Well, he certainly didn't understand this.
And I'm not making apologies for Trump.
I predicted this.
I had the sources.
I knew it.
And now I've been completely vindicated again.
I want to finish up with this.
It's got a lot of the news to hit and big guests coming up.
But here's Mike Johnson today talking about, oh, national security.
You mean the security of the deep state?
Here it is.
mike johnson
All right.
Number five, national security concerns, okay?
The discharge requires the Attorney General to release within 30 days, quote, classified information to the maximum extent possible.
This ignores the principle that declassification should always rest and always has rested with the agency that originated the intelligence.
Why?
So that they can protect their critical sources and methods.
It is incredibly dangerous to demand that officials or employees of the DOJ declassify materials that originated in other agencies and intelligence agencies.
alex jones
All right.
We will continue to track this as it unfolds.
But what we have is the deep state trying to cover its butt.
And it's the same thing with the would-be Trump killer in Pennsylvania, Crooks and his whole government background, and that all being covered up, now exposed, or J6 being a Fed surrection and Kash Patel covering that up, or Epstein being assassinated, that being covered up.
It's just massive cover-up.
And they sit there and they play games with Trump on all of this.
And you've got to be really well researched and very sophisticated to even understand how they're doing all this.
But when you are, you see it, you can predict it, and it's all happening.
And it does not bode well for this country.
It does not bode well at all.
Now, I want to spend some time here, though.
And it's a hard job because there's so much to talk about Trump's accomplishments before I hit this on the news.
The Democrats are literally a million times more connected to Epstein than Republicans.
There's nothing there on Republicans.
They're the ones that shipped in the 400 plus thousand kids in sex trafficking and slavery on purpose.
They ran it.
They're the ones who made deals with the cartels.
They're the ones that disappeared on purpose.
I wouldn't let the Board Patrol or ICE even know their names, but hit it in HHS.
They're the ones that have done all of this.
And they're the ones on every front trying to destroy this country.
So we can sit and obsess all day on Trump's missteps because I know it's important to you.
I'm giving you my well-researched analysis of it.
That is the best.
But at some point, I cannot spend all my time on the Epstein cover-up and why it happened.
I just spent an hour on it.
And really, with all the fish we've got to fry, we should be spending 10 minutes a day on it.
Look at all this other news.
This is all incredible.
Imminent war with Venezuela, imminent bombing in Mexico.
The Russia-Ukraine thing, just completely out of control.
The EU, all the countries bringing back conscription, preparing for total war.
China making major moves.
Major attempts to crash the economy.
Islam just rapidly expanding, virally expanding.
The AI metastatization.
We've got to get to this.
But I understand the big issues that captivate people that are somewhat awake.
That if you don't address what people want to know about, they will be susceptible to the disinformation.
So this is really prophylactic what we've been doing.
But I want to talk about some of the solutions here in a moment and some of the amazing things that are happening with Trump and the fact that since the Revolutionary War, we've not seen such revolutionary activity against the forces of evil.
I mean, good is really winning a lot of the major battles, most of them.
We are slamming the needle towards liberty.
And that's what's so paradoxical about this is we finally have a somewhat awake population, but they still want instant gratification.
They still don't understand the complexities of all of this.
But I want to spend a few minutes because the Saudi Arabian alliance is very important.
And Saudi Arabia under its current leader, the son of the king, who now runs the country, is seeing real reform.
And I don't trust Islam as far as I can throw it.
But I actually watch the Saudi Arabian TV, their announcements, what they're actually doing in policy.
And I've got leaders of the Saudi government saying the Muslim Brotherhood is cancer.
They control the Democratic Party and parties of Europe.
They will take over.
You must stop all Muslim immigration.
And the Saudis have been saying this for like 10 years.
I mean, like deputy leaders of the government.
And we understand it's the 21st century.
We want to modernize.
We want to move forward.
We understand that if Islam continues to expand like this with the old Muhammad version of it, it's going to lead to total war and death.
And the Muslims are going to get beaten in the end, but it'll probably destroy the planet.
So, and now they're like, women don't have to wear hijibs and women can go to college and women can be, you know, I mean, it's like major reforms.
And the big faction that was pro-al-Qaeda in the Saudi government in the Vegas attack ran that attack.
And they were doing it to blackmail the U.S.
And Trump got together with the Saudi crown prince and sent in U.S. special forces.
And none of this hit the news.
And they killed, I'm told, over 20,000 people.
There's thousands of these princes because, you know, they have multiple lives and huge dynasties.
And they house arrested a bunch of them, killed some of them, turned the Ritz Carlton into a giant torture base, which I'm not saying it's a good thing, but that's what the Arabs do.
And we do it too.
And they literally hung them up by their ankles and stuff.
And they've signed all these deals with us secretly and Trump.
And I've never seen the Saudis when Trump visited after that so wild-eyed when they were dancing around with him.
They were just like, they just love Trump because they've always taken British orders to be expansionists, to be the bad guys and take over countries.
And they were like, they've been actually wanting to get away from that.
They want golf courses and giant hotels and the biggest buildings in the world and AI and all that.
And they have literally made a deal.
And now they're running around trying to get Germany and France and everybody to extradite hundreds of thousands of people that fled Saudi Arabia that are criminals.
And Germany and the UK won't give them to them because they're going to put them in prison or cut their heads off.
So you talk about Trump making a deal.
Say what you want about the Saudis.
Extremely warlike, you know, whole nine yards.
But you make a deal with them.
It's a deal.
So, and the deal is you're going to give us Syria and our old commanders will stop being al-Qaeda and will now work for you.
I mean, it's something else.
So, I mean, Trump told Saudi Arabia, you will cut, you will massively increase oil production.
Even though they didn't want to, and that hurts them, they did it.
I mean, they do whatever Trump says.
And in their news, they go, oh, Trump's our leader.
I mean, like, you know, so, because that's what they get is strongmen.
So they don't want to be the bad guy.
And they're literally saying the Muslim Brotherhood with Obama, they're the main force, which they are.
That's the real sneaky power out there behind the scenes.
That's the ones that get all the Muslims elected.
That's the ones that build all the mosques everywhere.
That's the ones that do all this.
And Saudi Arabia is like, no more mosques, no more Muslim immigration.
Literally in their news, cut it.
They're telling Europe, do not take any more Muslims.
And they're like, you're taking the very worst.
They are Muslim Brotherhood.
They are completely brainwashed.
They're going to take over and we don't want the blame.
I've got a stack of clips of Saudi leaders and Jordanian leaders saying in English, you know, these are guys with PhDs.
They're not stupid.
Nobody ever said the Arabs aren't good at math and science or anything else.
They're not dumb.
And they've been thinking multi-level ahead.
They're like, we got all this wealth, all this power, skyscrapers, everything else.
No, we're going to, the jihad's over.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
And the Muslim Brotherhood.
And Obama's ally with her like, no, it ain't over, bitch.
We're going to have eight kids.
We're going to take over.
So when you see all this Dearborn Michigan stuff and Houston, Texas crap, and the calls to prayers at 5 a.m. and all that, that's the Muslim Brotherhood.
unidentified
Sadiq Khan, Mamdani.
alex jones
Those are the Muslims that are allied with communism.
Goes back even before the Baathists.
And this is a big deal.
Because I don't want to kill the Arabs.
I don't want to kill the Muslims around the world.
You got to have a reformation.
We're not in caveman town now.
Okay.
Caveman time is over now.
And so that's what this is all about.
And it's a big deal.
This is how you shake up the international order.
Go ahead and roll Trump.
Ongoing meeting with the Crown Prince.
Here it is.
donald j trump
Extremely respected man in the Oval Office today and a friend of mine for a long time, a very good friend of mine.
And I'm very proud of the job he's done.
What he's done is incredible in terms of human rights and everything else.
And he's the crown prince, the future king.
And I just want to pay my greatest respect to your father King, who is an amazing man.
I met him early on.
He greeted me at the airport at an age that was pretty high up there.
And it was about 117 degrees.
And he was standing on the red carpet as I came out of the plane.
And he's amazing.
And when I met his brilliant son, it was at the Oval Office shortly thereafter.
You came in representing the country.
And I called the father.
I said, this guy is fantastic.
And I don't know if that helped you or hurt you, but obviously it couldn't have hurt too much because here you are, right?
But we had a great meeting, and the office has changed quite a bit.
And we inherited a mess.
You actually told me you thought the country was in big trouble.
I'm not going to use the exact word that you use.
I refuse to say that you thought our country was dead a year and a half, two years ago.
But our country was in trouble, and now we have the hottest country in the world.
You said that also.
And we do.
The United States is right now the hottest country in the world.
And between the tariffs and the election, November 5th election, we've done things that nobody can believe.
$21 trillion will be the amount invested in the United States or committed to invest in one year.
So I'm here nine months.
We're up to almost $18 trillion.
Biden, as an example, the Biden administration, if you call it that, it's not, to me, it was the Biden lack of administration.
They were less than $1 trillion for four years.
We're going to be $21 trillion for one year.
I think that's hard to believe.
The biggest in history was a certain country, $3 trillion.
We're going to be $21 trillion.
On top of that, prices are coming down.
We inherited a mess with high prices.
The worst inflation in the history of our country.
We had inflation that was a single four years, the worst inflation in the history of the United States.
Gas prices threw the roof.
And that's after destroying our petroleum reserve, which was meant for wars and big emergencies, not to try and win an election.
They opened up the reserve so that people get $3 less in gasoline.
And it didn't work.
They got about 3 cents less.
Because as big as those reserves are, they're peanuts when you're talking about that kind of traffic.
And we're rebuilding the reserves.
We're doing all of this, and we've done a job.
We're also bringing down prices very substantially, and we've already brought them down very, very substantially.
Gasoline is way down.
I think you'll be seeing $2 gasoline, but we're now at $2.50, $245.
Some are lower than that.
It was $4.50, $5, $6, $3.50, $375, underbind, all different numbers, but way high.
And we have energy way down.
But the biggest thing to me, because I know what it means in jobs, is the fact that we're at over $17 trillion, Scott, and we expect to be around $20, $21 trillion in one year.
And that's many times bigger than in history.
The highest number was $3 trillion.
And we're going to be at $21 trillion.
That means new plants, new AI, new auto plants.
We have auto plants coming in from Canada, from Mexico, from Germany, from Japan.
Toyota just agreed to invest $10 billion on new auto plants, all-American workers.
We've never been in a position like this.
You can go back to the beginning.
Our country has never been in a position like this.
And it really is because of the fact that we use tariffs to bring all this money in.
And you're going to see the results in a year when these plants start to open up.
We have more plants under construction now than at any time in the history of our country.
And these are big plants.
These are the biggest plants anywhere in the world.
And I want to thank you because you've agreed to invest $600 billion into the United States.
And because he's my friend, he might make it a trillion, but I'm going to have to work on him.
But it's 600.
We can count on 600 billion, but that number could go up a little bit higher, yes, sir.
unidentified
I don't know.
donald j trump
We'll see.
But we appreciate it very much.
So Saudi is going to be investing at least $600 billion.
And that means investments in plants, in companies, money on Wall Street.
And what it really means for everybody that really counts is jobs, a lot of jobs.
We have a lot of jobs.
So I just want to thank you.
We've been really good friends for a long period of time.
We've always been on the same side of every issue.
I think we've done a great job in wiping out the nuclear capacity of Iran.
Nobody else could have done that.
No other president would have done it.
We had the pilots in the Oval Office right here.
We were celebrating a very successful attack.
So I had them in with that beautiful B-2 bomber that's over there.
And they said, sir, for 22 years, we practiced this attack.
Our predecessors, these were very young guys, so 22 years.
They said our predecessors and us practiced the attack on Iran.
But no president ever gave us the go-ahead.
Three times a year, they went out and they practiced the attack.
Nobody let us do it until you came along.
And I let them do it because it was the right thing to do.
You can't have a nuclear Iran.
And so we put you in a very good position.
But I just want to say it's an honor to be your friend, and it's an honor that you're here.
And if you'd like to say a few words, but thank you very much.
mohammed bin salman
Well, thank you, Mr. President.
This relationship has been a relation for about nine decades, and we've been working together for a long time.
But today it's a very important time in our history because there's also a lot of things that we're working on in the future.
We believe in the future of the Central America.
We believe in what you're doing, Mr. President.
It's really creating a lot of good things, a good foundation to create more economical growth, more business in America.
And also your work for the world peace.
I believe, Mr. President, and today and tomorrow, we're going to announce that we are going to increase that $600 billion to almost $1 trillion of investment, real investment and real opportunity by details in many areas.
And the agreement that we are signing today in many areas in technology and AI and earth materials, magnets, et cetera, that will create a lot of investment opportunities for the US.
donald j trump
So you are doing that now.
You're saying to me now that the $600 billion will be $1 trillion.
mohammed bin salman
Definitely, because what we are signing is to facilitate that.
donald j trump
I like that view.
unidentified
You work hard.
donald j trump
No, that's great.
I appreciate that.
That's great.
No, we're doing numbers that nobody's ever done.
And in all fairness, if you didn't see potential in the U.S., you wouldn't be doing that.
mohammed bin salman
Definitely.
donald j trump
You don't want to lose money.
mohammed bin salman
As I said, Mr. President, it's the most hottest country on the planet.
But what you're creating is not about opportunity today.
It's about also long-term opportunity in the central America that will affect American economy positively in the next coming decades, preparing the light foundation of emerging technologies.
That's a game changer for America in a good way, and we want to be part of it.
donald j trump
Yeah, we're doing really well.
alex jones
And this, you know, you don't see what we're doing so much because we have, although the construction industry sees it, I know most of you understand this, but for those that don't know, the U.S. was done.
The CFR, the globalists have set up where China would be the new century.
They call it that.
Just go to cfr.org, China, the new century, Century of the Dragon.
And he hasn't just gotten Saudi Arabia.
He's gotten hundreds of countries, the vast majority, to say, we're done investing in China and anywhere else.
unidentified
We're coming here.
alex jones
And already like five, six trillion has already come in.
It's up to 20 plus trillion now, pledged in the next year.
And it's happening.
And the globalists are trying to kill the economy, move the money into the EU.
They're not moving into China because they know that's in big trouble.
And Saudi Arabia says, no, you're the hot country.
We're going with you.
And you're like, well, what does that mean?
I mean, it means that they're not going to take orders from the British Empire anymore.
And this, Saudi Arabia was moving away from the dollar and into bricks under Biden.
They're right back in the dollar.
So a lot of people go, well, I'm not in the stock market or I don't own a car manufacturing plan.
Yeah, but people that work at the plant come use your business, your gym, your doctor's clinic, your store, your restaurant.
I mean, come on, people.
So these are all really amazing revolutionary moves because since really the 80s, and Reagan didn't understand what's happening, Trump's talked about this.
He doesn't blame him, but they started under Reagan.
His second term was a transfer out of the country.
That's reversing, as Besent says, we're rebalancing this.
We're not surrendering.
We're not going away.
America's not done if we get this done.
And so that's why this is so important.
I want to go to a few questions, but I've got Patrick Byrne coming in.
But I want to get to the good stuff Trump's done.
And I got enough agents now.
They're launching finally the huge operation to save the smuggled children.
This is huge.
We're right back.
So I knew, I mean, last night when I was reading about the Crown Prince coming, we'd known about this for weeks.
I said, guaranteed the first question is going to be, why'd you cover up Epstein?
Which the system had already done.
He knew they had the files.
He knew they'd already stolen all the real stuff and all the DVDs and hard drives of the Epstein stuff.
That was hidden by the Democrats.
So Trump wants to move on.
He's sick of it, but still, people won't put up with that.
You've got to articulate that.
So I knew one of the first questions he'd get would be about Epstein.
And then Trump responds with a longer answer that's better.
You can't just ignore this.
This is all they've got.
Have their failed government shutdown blow up in their face.
Here's a clip.
unidentified
Why wait for Congress to release the Epstein files?
Why not just do it now?
donald j trump
Well, it's not the question that I mind.
It's your attitude.
I think you are a terrible reporter.
It's the way you ask these questions.
You start off with a man who's highly respected, asking him a horrible, insubordinate, and just a terrible question.
And you could even ask that same exact question nicely.
You're all psyched.
Somebody psyches you over at ABC.
You're going to psych it.
You're a terrible person and a terrible reporter.
As far as the Epstein files is, I have nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein.
I threw him out of my club many years ago because I thought he was a sick pervert.
But I guess I turned out to be right.
But you know who does have?
Bill Clinton, Larry Summers, who ran Harvard, was with him every single night, every single weekend.
They lived together.
They went to his island many times.
I never did.
Andrew Weissman here.
All these guys were friends of his.
You don't even talk about those people.
You just keep going on the Epstein files.
And what the Epstein is, is a Democrat hoax to try and get me not to be able to talk about the $21 trillion that I talked about today.
It's a hoax.
Now, I just got a little report and I put it in my pocket of all the money that he's given to Democrats.
He gave me none, zero, no money to me.
But he gave money to Democrats.
And people are wise to your hoax.
And ABC is your company, your crappy company, is one of the perpetrators.
And I'll tell you something.
I'll tell you something.
I think the license should be taken away from ABC because your news is so fake and it's so wrong.
And we have a great commissioner, the chairman, who should look at that because I think when you come in and when you're 97% negative to Trump and then Trump wins the election in a landslide, that means obviously your news is not credible and you're not credible as a reporter.
So I've answered your question.
You should go and look at the Democrats who received money from Epstein, who spent their time.
Larry Summers was with him all the time.
That creep of the fund guy was with him all the time.
What's his name?
unidentified
Reed Hoffman.
donald j trump
Reid Hoffman.
I don't know Reid Hoffman, but I know he spends a lot of money on the radical left.
Reed Hoffman, in my opinion, should be under investigation.
He's a sleazebag.
And those are the people, but they don't get any press.
They don't get any news.
And you're not after the radical left because you're a radical left network.
But I think the way you ask the question with the anger and the meanness is terrible.
You ought to go back and learn how to be a reporter.
No more questions from you.
Who else has a question?
alex jones
Oh, that's the Donald Trump I love.
Woo, baby.
And it's all true.
But the CIA came to him and said he was a State Department operative with Mossad and MI6, sir.
It's hundreds of our top people, all Democrats.
This is too damaging.
Plus, you know, they've already destroyed all the real files.
Everything they've got is just cherry-picked stuff with no evidence to make you look bad, that your wife's a whore, work for Epstein.
Not true.
And Trump said, all right, fine.
And I'm like, sir, I predicted you do that because that's the political move.
They're going to burn you.
And now he wants them to go to jail.
Now he wants to go release the State Department documents that I've been saying for years and that now Mike Benz is.
And you learn he worked for Democrats and it was a money laundering operation and a high-end life extension medical operation with the bone marrow and blood and juices of women that were factory farmed to have babies to be killed at the eight months to what's legal and injected into their veins.
That's what happened at Zorro Ranch.
They have other facilities that do it in Switzerland and the Caribbean and everywhere.
Peter Nygaard, it's all come out.
Imagine if Trump came out and talked about Peter Nygard and they called it a cloning factory.
It really wasn't a cloning factory.
Again, you get a woman pregnant, they artificially disseminate her, and then the stem cells are way more compatible for you if it's your genetics.
It's real simple.
Like you need a family member.
You know, you hear about the dad that gives his son or daughter his kidney because it's because it's a genetic match.
It doesn't get rejected.
It's guaranteed.
That's the real secret.
And it's so frustrating that we know what Epstein was.
And you see the new FBI that's not new protecting Crooks and his accomplices and his background and protecting the Fed that did the pipe bomber deal.
It's saying Epstein killed himself.
That's the big scandal is that we've still got a Justice Department that's a little better than it was, but not much.
And those that stand for what's right are hunted.
So here's Trump.
Yesterday, Trump on Congressional release Epstein files.
We have nothing to do with Epstein.
The Democrats do.
All of his friends were Democrats.
They were with him at the time.
I wasn't at all.
Exactly.
But say, Epstein being horrible isn't a hoax.
We told him this months and months ago.
He did it a few times, and people loved it.
It was true.
But he just goes, oh, hoax.
No, not a hoax.
He did horrible things.
You just admitted he did.
The hoax is that you're involved.
But you can't just go that far.
Release the State Department files.
Burn them to the ground.
Fire weapons in the info war.
Because Trump keeps thinking he's doing all these great things and investment and the border and all of it.
He keeps thinking it's going to go away.
It's not going away.
This is emblematic of all of it.
It's us or them.
Put them in prison or they destroy America and probably the world and us along with them.
Here's Trump.
unidentified
Tomorrow.
I just want to be super clear on your position.
Do you want to see that pass the Senate?
michael flynn
Would you sign that bill if it gets to your desk?
donald j trump
I do want to say: here's what I want: We have nothing to do with Epstein.
The Democrats do.
All of his friends were Democrats.
You look at this Ried Hoffman, you look at Larry Summers, Bill Clinton.
They went to his island all the time, and many others are all Democrats.
All I want is I want for people to recognize the great job that I've done on pricing, on affordability, because we brought prices way down, but they're going way lower, on energy, on ending eight wars and another one coming pretty soon, I believe.
We've done a great job.
And I hate to see that deflect from the great job we've done.
So I'm all for it.
You know, we've already given 50,000 pages.
You do know that.
Unfortunately, like with the Kennedy situation, with the Martin Luther King situation, not to put Jeffrey Epstein in the same category, but no matter what we give, it's never enough.
You know, with Kennedy, we gave everything and it wasn't enough.
With Martin Luther King, we gave everything and it's never enough.
We've already given, I believe the number is 50,000 pages, 50,000 pages.
And it's just a Russia-Russia-Russia hoax as it pertains to the Republicans.
Now, I believe that many of the people that we, some of the people that we mentioned, are being looked at very seriously for their relationship to Jeffrey Epstein.
But they were with him all the time.
I wasn't at all.
And we'll see what happens.
What I just don't want Epstein to do is detract from the great success of the Republican Party, including the fact that the Democrats are totally blamed for the shutdown.
You know, they cost our country hundreds of billions of dollars with that at a lot of inconvenience.
So I'm for any, I don't care.
They can do whatever they want.
We'll give them everything.
Sure, I would.
Let the Senate look at it.
Let anybody look at it.
But don't talk about it too much because honestly, I don't want to take it away from us.
It's really a Democrat problem.
The Democrats were Epstein's friends, all of them.
And it's a hoax.
The whole thing is a hoax.
And I don't want to take it away from really the greatness of what the Republican Party has accomplished over the last period of time.
alex jones
Now, that's what we need to see, and that's true.
Good.
And look at this.
Larry Summers in the emails working for the Communist Chinese with a sex operative.
Total panic mode.
That's the former head of Clinton's operations.
We already knew that.
It's the same thing Trump said 10 years ago.
So good.
Now, we've just spent off and on an hour and a half on this or more.
And now I'm going to get into geopolitical, which is really important.
And we got Patrick Byrne here with huge exclusive news on what's coming up with Venezuela, Mexico, and so much more.
But I want to talk about just some of the new amazing things Trump's doing.
And for all the instant gratification people out there, I want to explain something to you that's really important.
But first, speaking of geopolitical, here's where they go to the questions about geopolitics with the leader of Saudi Arabia.
And then we'll segue here this.
unidentified
Thank you, Mr. President.
The Grand Prince has been instrumental in helping lifting the sanctions on Syria.
Will there be any joint investment between the U.S. and Syria?
And will you visit Damascus?
alex jones
Are you from Syria?
unidentified
No, but...
donald j trump
Where are you from?
unidentified
I'm from Palestine.
Oh.
donald j trump
I'm making a lot of progress, huh?
unidentified
Very good.
They like me.
donald j trump
The Palestinians like me.
The Palestinians are doing very well, actually.
I think we're working very closely with a lot of people that make everybody happy, including Israel, the Palestinians, and everybody.
That's very interesting.
No, I think that I will tell you, the Crown Prince called me, and he specifically asked me if I would lift the sanctions on Syria, because he wants to see Syria make it.
As you know, the leader of Syria was just here, and we had a great meeting.
And he's a strong guy, and I guess you'd need a strong person to run it.
And I think Syria has made tremendous progress.
And we did lift the sanctions at the request of the Crown Prince.
Also, the President of Turkey, Erdogan, called me specifically.
He said, you know, if you don't lift the sanctions, Syria doesn't have a chance.
If you do, they have a very good chance.
And between the two of them and some others, I lifted the sanctions.
And the results so far have been pretty good.
unidentified
Thanks for the question.
Mr. President, President, can I ask you a question about the F-35s that are being sold to Saudi Arabia?
Are these the same ones that are being used by the Israeli military?
And if so, how does that allow for the qualitative military edge for Israel?
And then I want to ask you, because you brought up the plight of the Palestinians, are you aware of relocation flights to South Africa that are taking place right now?
They're relocation flights that are taking place.
Some Palestinians are being charged up to $2,000 for the US.
donald j trump
I'm not going to South Africa for the G20 because I think their policies on the extermination of people are unacceptable.
So I'm not going, so I won't refer to anything having to do with South Africa.
South Africa has behaved extremely badly.
But I will say that when you look at the F-35 and you're asking me, is it the same?
I think it's going to be pretty similar.
unidentified
How will that happen?
donald j trump
This is a great ally, and Israel's a great ally.
And I know they'd like you to get planes of reduced caliber.
I don't think that makes you too happy.
They've been a great ally.
Israel's been a great ally.
And we're looking at that exactly right now.
But as far as I'm concerned, I think they are both at a level where they should get top of the line.
Yes, please.
unidentified
If I could just ask them about direct talking about the defense.
donald j trump
One second.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Have you reached an agreement on a U.S.-Saudi defense treaty today?
And are you going to bring up the Abraham Accords in your discussion?
donald j trump
I already brought them up.
What did you say?
I think I got a positive response.
Would you like to respond?
mohammed bin salman
Yeah, so definitely we believe having a good relation with all the eastern countries is a good thing.
And we want to be part of the Ibrahim Accord.
But we want also to be sure that we secure a clear path of two-state solution.
And today we have a healthy discussion with Mr. President that we're going to work on that to be sure that we can prepare for the right situation as soon as possible to have that.
donald j trump
I think we're, you know, I don't want to use the word commitment, but we've had a very good talk on the Abraham Accords.
We talked about one state, two-state.
You know, we talked about a lot of things in a short period of time.
We'll be discussing it further too.
But I think you have a very good feeling toward the Abraham Accords.
mohammed bin salman
Yes, definitely, Mr. President.
We want peace for the Israelis.
We want peace for the Palestinians.
We want them to coexist peacefully in the region, and we will do our best to reach that day.
donald j trump
And the defense agreement, have you reached agreement on that?
We pretty much have.
unidentified
Mr. President, we have reached agreement on that.
I wanted to ask you about the direct talks between the United States and Iran.
Have you been fully briefed on that?
And are you concerned at all about how this might impact Saudi security interests?
mohammed bin salman
We are a close ally.
We'll be working closely together on that issue.
And we would do our best to help to reach a deal between Russia and Iran.
We believe it's good for Iran future to have a good deal that will satisfies the region and the world and the rest of America.
So we will do our best to see that they happen.
donald j trump
And by the way, Iran does want to make a deal.
I can say I think they very badly want to make a deal.
I am totally open to it.
And we're talking to them and we start a process.
But it would be a nice thing to have a deal with Iran.
And we could have done it before the war, but that didn't work out.
And something will happen there, I think.
they would very much like, I mean, they may say something else, but they would very much like to have a deal.
unidentified
You are going to sell F-35 jets.
You are planning, you said you are planning to sell the F-35 jets to Saudi Arabia.
donald j trump
Yeah.
unidentified
Is it part of the security agreement?
And how you assist the defense partnership between Saudi Arabia and the United States.
And the question for you.
donald j trump
I mean, we're going to sell them F-35s.
That's the only question, I guess.
unidentified
Is it part of the security agreement or no?
donald j trump
No, we're going to have, no, we're going to have a deal.
They're going to purchase F-35s.
They're buying them from Lockheed, and it's a great plane.
We make, by the way, the best military equipment.
You saw that during the Iran little skirmish.
We make the best planes, the best missiles.
We make the best offensive missiles.
We make the best military equipment in the world.
unidentified
For his royal highness, I'd like to ask you about how you see the cooperation between the United States and Saudi Arabia in the technological, advanced technological field, especially AI, and how it will support Saudi Arabia to serve its goal to achieve the vision of 2030.
mohammed bin salman
Well, I will try to answer that in short, but definitely there's a lot of interest in many industries between Saudi Arabia and America.
And we are signing a lot of agreements in different areas that would really add value to the American economy, but also to add value to us in Saudi Arabia.
And AI, it's critical for us because one of long-term problems that we could have is lack of workforce.
As you've seen in the past few years, some of them have reached 30% of the global immigration to Saudi Arabia.
So we know that to assure the Saudi Arabia GDB growing, with the lack of workforce that we have, we need to use a lot of computing power to replace jobs in the long term.
So that's huge demand in Saudi Arabia and we want to link it to American private sectors and getting a supply from America.
So there's a lot of opportunities in that area.
donald j trump
And we're also involved in AI in Saudi Arabia.
So we're working.
And again, we're leading by a lot on AI.
Actually, a lot.
China would be in second place.
But we're leading by a lot.
And I have to say this, and our relationship with China has been very good.
And as far as buying our foreign products, they're pretty much on schedule, Scott.
I'd like you to call them, say if they could speed it up, it would be good.
Okay, but they're pretty much on schedule.
faisal j abbas
I may have a question for both the crowd.
Professor Abbas from Arab New Saudi Arabia, Your Excellency.
donald j trump
It should be a friendly question.
faisal j abbas
Your Royal Highness, just picking up on something you've just mentioned about how some people tried to destroy the relationship between Saudi Arabia and the United States.
Perhaps since the launch of the vision, we've been used to having the bigger picture and that everything fits into the bigger picture.
Might you want to elaborate a little bit about where is the relationship, the bilateral relationship, the strategic partnership between Saudi Arabia and the United States heading?
And what's the big picture there?
mohammed bin salman
Well, I don't think it's a relation that we can replace it from the Saudi side of the American side.
It's a critical relationship for our political attempt, for our economical attempt, for our security, for our military, for many things.
And it has been there for nine decades.
And the opportunities that we have today, it's huge and seems that it's going to be get deeper in the next few decades.
And what we are having today and tomorrow with President Trump, it's really a huge new chapter on disregard that could add value to both of us.
donald j trump
You know, when you think about it, I'm just sitting here.
You're with the future king, a man who's respected by everybody, a man that doesn't have to be doing this, really.
I don't have to be doing it either.
And yet we're sitting here taking questions.
Anyway, we didn't say, oh, you can't talk about this.
And there's never been transparency like this, even in his country, but there's never been.
In our country, that's been acknowledged.
But we didn't put restrictions.
And I'm saying it's sort of wonderful to be taking questions from all over the world.
Everybody's here.
This is just a small group representative of tremendous numbers of media that are outside that are very jealous that these people were so selected.
But they're representing a lot of people that are outside.
I think it's terrific that we could be sitting here being this open.
And, you know, I think it's really a wonderful thing.
alex jones
No, that's really true.
Trump is unbelievably transparent.
He made that point.
They've released everything they got on Kennedy, RFK, JFK.
It's never enough.
He releases it.
He's the one covering it up because there's always something else you can find because there's so much.
Like people think, oh, these were the Epstein files they're about to release with this vote in the House.
That's just emails they turned over.
We know the real stuff.
It's at the State Department, CIA, because he was CIA, MI6, Mossad, State Department Controlling.
But look at this.
As I explained earlier, the Muslim Brotherhood, you never hear about it.
It's the real power Muslim group worldwide.
And Saudi Arabia doesn't like it.
And look, today I designated the Muslim Brotherhood and the Council of American Islamic Relations as foreign terrorists and transactional criminal organization.
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This is what I talked about in the first hour, and now this is broke.
Now, I didn't get time to get to this, but I'll get to it with Patrick Byrne coming up.
We'll spend some time on that.
The Trump successes.
Now, even Nick Fuentes that got really mad and said, oh, the deportations aren't as high as they were in the first Trump admin.
Well, that's because on record, Biden dismantled it, shut down the detention centers, cut the main enforcement force by 80%.
In 10 months, Trump has, it was 5,000 and 10,000, now 15,000 agents dealing with tens of millions of people.
And now it's set to be 40,000 in just a few months.
Massive escalation.
And now they've launched their big task forces.
And I've got all these articles that are in the local news.
It's never the national news, of unprecedented raids, human trafficking, sex slavery, slave labor, all over the country, Michigan, Texas, New York, California, South Dakota, Florida, everywhere.
And he set up, as I said, should be done.
I didn't know they were actually going to do this.
I know Flynn advised me of this, said he was advising them right when Trump got in.
Task forces, joint task forces with state and local police.
And you don't really see it in the news.
It's already been massive because these are minors, so you can't just put their names out or show it.
But we're talking thousands of arrests a day.
I have dozens of articles around the country.
1,000 here, 300 here, 200 there, 800 here, 1,400 there.
I mean, it's just crazy that with this limited force, Trump has gotten this much done.
Look at this headline, Italy Punta.
ICE moves to save 450,000 unaccompanied minors abandoned, lost under Biden's border policies that were shipped in on purpose.
And it goes through it all and the enforcement documents, the information.
It's huge.
But even Dick Fuentez is like, no, actually, I got to say, they're setting up detention centers.
They're ratcheting up.
I mean, if you look at the enforcement, Trump gets in 10 months ago, and here we are.
It's I mean, it's so again, he's not God.
He can't just do things immediately.
But they're doing it.
And you see, I sound they're getting attacked everywhere.
So they're heroes.
All right.
I have not even plugged today.
I'm the worst person ever.
I need your support.
I'll just go back home.
unidentified
All right.
alex jones
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We are now well into our number three of this live Tuesday, November 18th, 2025 transmission.
The great Patrick Byrne is in studio.
So flattered he'd actually come here personally for this.
And I got to tell you, I'm not going to go over billionaire, businessman, you know, tech guy, all the rest of it.
And then it got declassified last year, done intelligence work for the United States for decades at Patrick Byrne, enemy within docu series.com.
We'll get into his new book and the films and more.
But the big thing is, and we've been crushed down, we've lost about half our production crew, but we're about to relaunch, so it's great.
We're sorry to lose them under the enemy attacks.
But used to, I can say, hey, this guest is coming.
He was on two weeks ago.
Get this, but listeners can do it.
Or I'm sure the crew can use the clip, Genie, with AI to find it.
You were here like three weeks ago or whatever it was.
You said, well, Mexico, which we all know is true, if you're informed, is the junior partner of Venezuela.
They're the piggyback for the Democrats.
They're still in the elections.
They're not just shipping in fentanyl.
This is reestablishing the Monroe Doctrine.
And it's on record that Mexico's junior partner, Shinebaum, has openly said, leave the cartels alone.
And obviously, the State Department and the CIA are involved in this, but they're just supporting a popular uprising.
You have a Mexican Independence Day on the 20th coming up.
That's when the next big thing happens.
And then Trump, I got a clip said, oh, yeah, we're getting ready to start taking out the cartels, which the public wants.
This is all perfectly tied.
So does the U.S. hit Mexico first or Venezuela first or Maduro, as you weeks ago said he should do?
He says, I'm ready for a deal.
I'm ready to leave after offering all these concessions, gold and oil.
But that's for cartel light.
We know the CIA, the bad elements, wanted to actually keep the bad guys in.
He's had Maduro leave.
Trump said no to his credit.
So I'm not normally a regime change guy, but that's because we haven't had people in our hemisphere doing something like this.
If you look at the Barbary Wars one and two, the first one with Thomas Jefferson, our third president, he was the big anti-interventionist, but we were getting hijacked by the Islamics and all the rest of it.
And our ships, he went over there and kicked their ass.
So this is completely classic America.
This is not neocon.
So you, because you were heavily involved at the center of exposing the election fraud, exposing Maduro stealing the election, Nicholas Maduro.
And so it's just amazing to have you here because everything you said is unfolding as you predicted it.
Then I want to get into all the other developments, the election fraud, a bunch of clips.
The only problem was you shouldn't fly her to do one hour.
I don't know if we'll be setting him up with Harrison or come back tomorrow if you're all come back Thursday.
No, come back Thursday.
Let's do two hours.
Okay, I'll come back Thursday.
Listen, just to set this up, it takes 10 minutes.
And then where's that other stack of documents?
You sent me a bunch of other videos.
patrick m byrne
I have them here.
I don't know if she.
alex jones
Yeah, I mean, it's on my left.
Where is it?
patrick m byrne
Way left, she says, way left.
alex jones
Just print it all again.
I can't keep track of it.
patrick m byrne
Here you go.
alex jones
A bunch of it fell off.
patrick m byrne
It should look like this.
alex jones
Yeah, yeah.
I got it.
It's just, I'm an information overload here.
So, so, so we'll get to all that, but you got the floor now.
How did you call Mexico?
How did you call Venezuela?
Not just three weeks ago.
You were on six months ago, a year ago, saying, watch when Trump gets in this is happening.
You're on the inside.
What's coming next?
patrick m byrne
Well, I'm, well, I can tell you, I'll tell you my opinion.
I don't pretend to be leaking anything inside.
But I can tell you, you know, in Aliens, when Segourne Weaver fights her way through everything and she gets to the nest, the Queen Bee.
Yeah, Venezuela is the Queen Bee.
You might say Cuba's like the frontal lobe of the Queen Bee.
Cuba was the teacher, but Venezuela is a Fidel Castro creation.
So Venezuelan cartel is really the granddaddy cartel.
The other cartels we're fighting, like the guys from Mexico, they're just the junior partners to the Venezuelan cartel.
So of course we have to hit the nest first, the queen bee first.
We have to hit them first.
alex jones
Perfect analogy.
Continue.
patrick m byrne
Well.
alex jones
Marco Ribio, they're designating the main cartel as a terrorist group, and Maduro is the head.
That's the final piece before the invasion.
patrick m byrne
Well, I'm not going to comment on invasion or not.
I think he, I mean, on what their plans are, I can say I think it's the most important.
And I'm like you, I'm not a regime change guy.
I'm a Milton Friedman.
War is bad kind of guy.
This is the most necessary war since the revolution and probably the Civil War.
This is Venezuela committed not just an act of war against us.
They conquered us.
They overthrew us.
They installed a dope who then lowered the gates of the city and let 10 million military men show up.
We were conquered.
And the padlock on the dungeon door was the election last year.
We got a lucky upper punch in and we got out of it.
But this is the most necessary war we fought since the revolution and the civil war.
alex jones
No, I totally agree.
People that don't know, Venezuela has some of the biggest role reserves in the world, second biggest, maybe first.
It's on record in the Democrat piggyback.
So take it out of the deep state, you take them out.
patrick m byrne
You know, and you know what?
I've had access to, and because of this intelligence activity, a private intelligence activity I conducted with that now CIA Gary Benson is out there.
Burnson is out there, maybe being a little too public about, but him and another, we ran this.
We have actually acquired the bribes that were paid by the Venezuelan regime.
alex jones
Yeah, you were talking about Venezuela before anybody else was.
patrick m byrne
The Venezuelan regime has paid bribes, not only to numerous domestic American peace activists who have been down there campaigning for Maduro.
Wait till you see who got tens of millions of dollars.
I'm not going to say the name.
I'm going to clear one guy who didn't, Noam Jomsky.
Because he was one of the guys that was down there a lot.
He's one who didn't take it.
But other names you're going to find out.
And in addition, South American leaderships, especially every name you've heard of in the last generation, has taken like, you know, the Kitcheners in Argentina, the husband and wife?
They took $700 million.
The lefty in Ecuador, he took like $300 million.
The guy.
alex jones
Yeah, people are wondering where the trillions of their or hundreds of millions of oil sales went.
It all went to buying everything.
Does Venezuela run itself or does China run it?
You learned it was a CIA above it.
patrick m byrne
Chairman of the board of all of this is China, but this is where it gets crazy.
Since you ask, I believe, and I'm sort of on the outside because I'm such a wild card, but I have an idea of what's going inside.
I actually know that one of the holdups has been for months, and I would not do this other than they're still doing it, is the CIA has been fighting For some alternative other than regime change, they are protecting Maduro.
alex jones
Yeah, people are asking, that's my sources too.
In SETCOM, you name it.
Yep.
In Southcom, they're asking, why are you settling for regime change?
You've never done it because the CIA doesn't want it.
unidentified
Correct.
patrick m byrne
And so what they've been fighting for is there's an ex, the head of military intelligence of Venezuela is Sabine.
They're trying to get rid of Maduro and say, let's just take the general who's in charge of military intelligence and make him, you know, that's going from cartel to cartel light.
The CIA has been holding things up, fighting for that solution.
And that's because they know this woman who's wonderful, Maria Corina Machado, like 85% domestic support.
People love her.
alex jones
They stole the election from her.
patrick m byrne
They stole the election.
They stole the election.
They don't want her in because they know she's going to reveal everything.
alex jones
That was my problem.
You said, well, don't worry.
The CIA is not running this.
The military is.
They're in all of it.
My concern is a Bay of Pigs setup.
patrick m byrne
Oh, my.
I believe there was an attempt to do something like that.
I'm not going to say anymore.
There was an attempt within the government by somebody to lead us into a Bay of Pigs 2.0.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
alex jones
So since I talked to you three weeks ago, was that that group they said they busted?
patrick m byrne
I'm not going to say who it was, but someone got it.
alex jones
I predicted like two days before it happened.
Remember, you were here.
I said they're going to do that.
And two days later, that happened.
unidentified
Well, it is.
patrick m byrne
Well, it is the case.
alex jones
You mean the group they grabbed and claimed it was CIA, but it wasn't.
unidentified
No, no, no.
alex jones
You hired a group and ratted them out.
patrick m byrne
No, I'm saying that I don't want to overstep any lines, but I can tell you that there's been a discovery of somebody within the government who this discovery of somebody within the government who it appears was trying to lead us into a Bay of Pigs 2.0.
And it was not good for his career, but I'm not going to say anymore.
So, yeah, there are traitors within our government.
And when this is all over, I'll let you know.
There was somebody within the government who was trying to, it appears, lead us into a Bay.
alex jones
But remember, I don't know, it was a month ago.
You've been on a bunch lately, but whether it was two months ago or a month ago, remember, I said I'm worried about a Bay of Pigs.
patrick m byrne
Yeah, well, you were right, too.
It was actually being engineered.
It was engineered.
See, we have, you got to understand this is a multi-layer attack from Cuban Venezuela.
Yeah, the chairman of the board is China, but the frontal is the front that we're fighting is Cuba, Venezuela.
They attacked us first by infiltrating us with spies.
Our government has about 20 Marxist communist spies.
And I know it sounds like Joe McCarthy, but they're already getting arrested.
alex jones
I think that's a low number.
patrick m byrne
Yeah.
alex jones
I mean, the mayor of LA was an admitted intelligence agency for him and admitted it.
Yeah.
patrick m byrne
Trained Marxists.
It's like non-security.
Secondly, so they came at us that way, then they came at us with a fake election equipment, and then they came at us with Trenda Aragua.
So this is a multi-level, multi-dimensional war we've been fighting, and Americans don't even understand where it war.
But we are penetrated and we're so penetrated.
I probably can't say any more.
I vote, maybe I would have said too much, but I can tell you that in the process of preparations for this, it transpired.
They found somebody who was trying to lead us into a Bay of Pigs 2.0.
alex jones
Well, I didn't, that was just the obvious prediction.
They want to embarrass Trump.
They don't want regime change.
So.
patrick m byrne
And that person was relieved.
Don't worry.
That person is no longer around.
alex jones
But obviously, they want Maduro to go.
So what do you make of him last week saying, I'm ready to go?
We make a deal.
So obviously the good hope is he just leaves.
But then what happens?
They hold free and fair elections or what happens.
patrick m byrne
Yeah, well, he's offered different things.
Let me stay for three years and transition.
Okay, I'll leave, but we'll put my number two in charge.
But no, we need it to be turned over to the real winner of the last election, who's MCM's man, Bundo.
And he will commit, I'm sure, in like the first six months to hold free and fair elections.
And that's the way you transition.
There is a winner.
A guy won with about 80% of the vote last July.
They canceled.
They just canceled the election by noon.
They just canceled all the transparency.
They normally show results in Caracas as the results come in and they say, oh, well, you know, we won again.
And it's all rigged.
But this time by noon, something happened, as I've described before, to their ability to rig their election on election day.
And so they couldn't rig it.
And the results were coming in 80-20.
So they just canceled the TV show and came out the next morning and said, we won 51 to 49, and they arrested 2,000 leaders.
So we can just put the, I mean, for the rightful president to be installed would not be any big offense to international law or something.
alex jones
It's just yeah, but I mean, three aircraft carriers, the Marines, the Army.
Trump doesn't do that as a bluff.
patrick m byrne
Yeah.
alex jones
And now he says he'll negotiate with Maduro.
I mean, what do you think is going to happen?
patrick m byrne
I think that we're going, well, if Maduro has any sense, what's the point of getting 10,000 people of his own people killed?
He should get on a plane and leave.
They've offered him exit.
He can leave.
I know that China, Russia, and Iran have actually refused to take him because they don't want the heat.
But there is a country.
alex jones
Is this going to look like the first remake two-part of Dune when the Harkonnens attack Iraqin?
That's what it's going to look like in Caracas.
patrick m byrne
It's going to be, yeah, it's going to be over.
It's going to be a war unlike I've got friends in the special operations community and they are studying the disposition of forces.
And they say it's a very unusual force floating around in the Caribbean.
Yes, there's a Marine expeditionary unit, and then there's a bunch of black helicopter guys and snatch and grab.
It's all the 160th and the SEAL Team 6 and similar units in the Army down there.
So it's going to be a very unusual kind of war, as well as a massive air campaign.
But anyway, so if it happens, ideally, they get a look at it.
People have, I don't know if they actually have a conception of the power that is against them.
And their military is set up to shoot protesters.
Their military is not set up.
alex jones
It's all suppressive.
patrick m byrne
Yeah, it has no real ability to fight any real military.
So it's going to be.
alex jones
Well, I can guess, and I don't want to give away secrets, but the communists aren't that stupid so they know.
No, they're going to vaporize the leadership positions, take out the ports, take out the military bases, bomb the main palaces, just as a show that he's done, and sit back and watch.
And if they have to, they'll go in then and grab them.
And then they're going to have diversionary military attacks to draw them out and then hope they shoot Russian missiles at our ships.
And then it's Katie bar the door once we got a U.S. aircraft carrier on fire.
patrick m byrne
Yeah, and it arrived.
The USS Gerald Ford arrived, the biggest and most advanced in the world.
alex jones
There's three now.
Yeah.
And this we don't have to do a Gulf of Tonkin or the Maine here.
You think they're dumb enough to attack those aircraft carriers?
patrick m byrne
I don't think they'll attack, but we're going to press the issue.
We're just going to keep escalating until eventually they break.
We're going to put planes over there.
alex jones
No, I agree.
It's clear the decisions we made.
So what's the timeline, do you think?
patrick m byrne
I hope he's, yeah, I shouldn't estimate on that because hints have been made to me, so I'm not going to say anything.
But it has to happen.
alex jones
I already thought it would happen.
I predicted a month ago, but within a month, so I'm already a rare time.
I'm not right.
I thought it would be happening now.
patrick m byrne
I thought it'd be happening by the time the USS Gerald Ford got within about 300 miles of South America.
I thought they would launch right off the, they didn't.
They've gotten there.
They've regrouped.
Who knows what they're doing?
But I think that Maduro and his regime have been offered an exit.
There's a country they can go to, sit in a resort the rest of their life, not be touched.
And they should take that.
You know, it's a place.
alex jones
Take the Napoleon deal.
patrick m byrne
Yeah, take the Napoleon deal.
It's not a bad place.
Nice sun.
You do just fine.
It's a lot better than what's going to happen to you if you stay in your bunkers.
The war is going to be very short.
And they're hoping to get an insurgency going.
But unlike Saddam, there's, you know, 85% of the people are really against them.
alex jones
Well, plus, that was really a Shiite Sunni civil war over Iraq.
It wasn't even an insurgency.
They were just in the middle of them fighting.
patrick m byrne
Their war went back a thousand years.
We just sort of stumbled into it.
alex jones
Yeah, we just, it's like two pit bulls are fighting.
You're not, you're not, you're actually not actually fighting them.
You're just dumb enough to reach out and try to separate them.
patrick m byrne
You want to hear something crazy that we uh that I've been asked actually to leak to the world or present to the world?
alex jones
Hey, you're the boss.
I want you to come back Thursday for two hours.
patrick m byrne
I'll come back Thursday for two hours.
alex jones
You brought too much here.
The stuff you gave me made the top of my head blow off.
patrick m byrne
Look at some of it.
Look at some of it.
Tell me what you want to talk about.
alex jones
Gover you want.
Go wherever you want.
Well, let's do the next segment.
Let's talk about Mexico because you were on two, three weeks ago, whatever it was.
You said, watch Mexico.
Big things are about to happen.
And it's not just bombing cartels.
No, no, something else.
And I went, oh, color revolution.
He goes, well, yeah, they're pissed off.
And then clearly, we just have to nudge it.
Now that's happening.
They're the junior partners.
So you remember predicting that?
patrick m byrne
I do.
I can also say that I think things are ready to kick off in Europe.
There are places where people have had enough.
And you might see some kind of insurrection as well.
Just like we're seeing in Mexico, where the people are getting together.
And you see what was going on yesterday down in front of the president's palace and such?
alex jones
Yeah, I know.
Millions up all over the country.
I mean, look at this, but I'm saying clearly, obviously, Trump's involved with that at some level, but that's organic.
Her endorsing the drug cartels and saying leave them alone.
So, so yeah, I think Mexico falls to the people on November 20th or Independence Day.
patrick m byrne
November 20th, I think that's too quick.
I think Venezuela will probably go down first.
Once Venezuela goes down, the cartels are headless.
alex jones
I mean, they've like the Godfather, where what's the guy's name?
unidentified
Barzane, the guy who brings in the deal is the traitor, Michael.
alex jones
He like sets up Michael's sister to get Sonny killed.
And then he's sitting there and like and he's calling all his, they're all dead.
And he's like, right.
patrick m byrne
And he's calling.
alex jones
And he's like, they're all dead.
It's like there's no, like, Seinbaum would be calling.
There's like, there's nobody like, nobody's answering.
patrick m byrne
Nobody's answering.
alex jones
Yeah.
patrick m byrne
I think Trump's on a roll, and I really am not.
I regret any pro-war sentiment I've ever had in my life because I think that it's just gotten made things worse on just about everything we've done.
But this is the most necessary war we've had in 100%.
alex jones
Well, I'm the same way, but I mean, we read the Constitution and all that.
We're supposed to be involved around our country.
patrick m byrne
Yeah.
You know, would George Washington have gone to Europe for World War I, or would he have said Europeans commit auto-genocide every every generation or two?
Just what do we have?
We don't have a dog in that fight, but we got dragged into that.
And I'm not even sure that those were necessary.
I know that's an extreme.
They call that paleo-conservative, that maybe we should not have entered World War I.
alex jones
Oh, World War I was engineered by the British, the Black Hand, and then gave rise to Hitler.
And then World War II had to be done.
Hitler was bad.
But 100%, the British Empire engineered World War I.
That was wrong.
That's why Devil Chamberlain and all of them were like not wanting it because they knew they were, and then it got out of control.
But this is 100%, folks, you can't defeat the Democrats without destroying their piggy bank.
patrick m byrne
Yeah, it's also turned out that Soros gets billions.
I think $12 billion he's gotten from Venezuela.
Not only there are lefties on television telling you, don't Venezuela, peace, socialism, who have themselves taken $10 million or more, but all kinds of politicians have taken it through Soros.
alex jones
Yeah, how much money do you think Sean Penn got down there literally slobbing the knob of Hugo Chavez?
patrick m byrne
I know the answer to that, whether or not he took any, and I'm just not going to comment.
alex jones
You certainly worship him.
patrick m byrne
I do.
alex jones
No, no, no.
Sean Penn worship Hugo Chavez.
patrick m byrne
Yeah, I know.
Celebrities like that, you can assume that a fair number of them have actually gotten bribes.
I'm not saying Sean Penn did, who's a friend of a friend, but he's, but a number of those people took bribes, like $50 million bribes.
alex jones
We'll be right back with Patrick Burning to all this domestic news.
Straight ahead.
Stay with us.
unidentified
All right.
alex jones
Patrick Byrne has too much to talk about.
So he's in Houston tomorrow.
He's coming back with us on Thursday for two hours, 1 p.m. to 3 p.m.
And we definitely, I don't know if you guys ask, because every time we have a big guest, it's going to book to other shows.
I don't know if Harrison has room or we can stay, but we need to get him on there because he's got so much to cover and sent us so much.
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The pills are good because it's contained.
Yeah, you got to do it.
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alex jones
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All right.
We're going to get into your new film, Danger Close, everything on Thursday.
We'll mention that today, but finishing up with the Mexican drug cartels controlled by Venezuela, what's happening?
You sent a bunch of clips.
Three years ago, Venezuelan opened its prisons and sent us all of their different criminals.
Here's a quick clip of that.
And then it dovetails playing back to back of Eric Prince a few days ago almost Steve Bannon explaining.
This is on record, by the way, that China is all over Latin America allied.
It is the main force from the Panama Canal.
We're pushing them out there to Venezuela through Mexico.
And Shinebaum is a globalist WUF climate scientist on the ChiCom payroll.
So China is a big player here, folks.
This is all about pushing China out.
Here's those clubs back-to-back.
unidentified
All right, let's go to the Prince Club in a minute.
alex jones
Stop here.
I realize this is in Spanish for radio listeners.
What is he saying?
patrick m byrne
He's saying that that was a Venezuelan gangster in the TV series could see the subtitles.
Venezuelan gangster in the immigration line coming into the United States a couple years ago saying, you know what's coming for you, America?
A bunch of killers like me where they fall asleep on the subway and we'll slit your throat.
You'll find out.
In two years, the country now known as the United States of America won't exist anymore.
This is what they were saying two years ago.
And they sent us tens of thousands of trained killers like that.
That's an act of war.
alex jones
And what did you make of Maduro eight months ago saying, I'll admit it, Biden said send the illegals.
I have the documents, which you know is true.
Why would the Democrats want this?
patrick m byrne
Well, the Democrats, people just have to accept.
We have a party that was trying to overthrow the United States.
It's an inside-outside communist strategy.
They were trying to overthrow the United States.
And there's a reason.
You probably know about Obama in the last year of his term.
He bought millions of AR-15s and a trillion rounds of ammo and scattered around.
But what they learned at the end of the first Trump president that the Latte boys, the barista boys, don't have the muscle to do it.
They needed some muscle.
So when Biden got installed, he brought in 10 to 20 million military-age men.
That was to be the army.
alex jones
And this is the Weatherman presidency.
patrick m byrne
We were never supposed to get out of this, out of this dilemma.
And they were going to cook 2024, too.
And so that was the army that was coming forced.
You know, so that's why Obama bought the weapons.
And that's why Biden, you asked, yes, Bernarduro came out eight months ago and said, we met with them in Panama.
FBI came down and told us, open your prisons, let all people send them to America.
I'd love to ask why, you know, he says, I'll give you the paperwork, the proof.
Yeah, it's because they were overthrowing us.
They were trying to overthrow the United States.
alex jones
Well, that's the original Larry Grathwald, you know, the Rainbere that got in Southern Deal and put him in prison with it.
These were, you know, all the top weathermen, heirs, all of them, saying this plan to use a Latin American invasion.
They didn't make the movie in the early 80s, Red Dawn, out of their butt.
That was off of that documents that came out.
So they've always had this Red Dawn plan.
patrick m byrne
And you know, there's an old movie of Barack Obama where he started his political career, which was the living room of Bill Ayers.
unidentified
No.
patrick m byrne
Did you know that?
That's where he announced for his first run for state.
alex jones
Oh, I met Bill Ayers on the administration.
Obama was his protege.
patrick m byrne
Here's another strange thing about Obama.
Obama, his social, you know, when you turn 18, you have to get selective service number registered.
His selective service number shows that he was living in Connecticut.
There's nothing in his history that says why he'd be living in Connecticut.
However, Bill Ayers was living still underground as a high school teacher in Connecticut during those years, whether the year that so there may their connection may go that far back.
But this was absolutely a plot to overthrow the country.
And listen, this sounds like conspiracy theory, but I'll say again, I worked for them.
I worked for Comey, Brennan, and Barack Obama.
In fact, here's a crazy story.
I don't know if I've ever told this.
alex jones
What was the new thing you said was exclusive you can break today?
patrick m byrne
This new thing.
I was told by Laws I can break this.
alex jones
Well, tell the old story first, are you?
patrick m byrne
Okay.
alex jones
Come back for two hours on Thursday, baby.
patrick m byrne
Well, no, I do want to tell you this story.
Sorry.
So I've insisted and been clear that in my book, I have nothing to do with the CIA.
I don't want anything to do with the CIA.
That was my red line.
But I did have all these other relationships in government.
In 2006, somebody else in government, somebody else in government took me to lunch and said, would you like to, you've done such nice work for us in this peace stuff that you do for us.
Would you be more, would you be willing to work for some sort of high-speed group that we'd move you under?
And I said, sure, sure.
Well, that woman emerged seven years later as John Brennan's protege number two.
He had two female proteges.
That was protege.
Isn't it the light that's green?
alex jones
Red light right there.
patrick m byrne
Red light is the one that I look at.
alex jones
No, no, it's green.
Yeah, red light right there.
patrick m byrne
Ah, okay.
Sorry.
alex jones
I've been looking.
Why don't you look at them?
patrick m byrne
That that woman emerged as John Brennan's protege number two.
So it's quite, so since 2006, Ford, even though I understood myself not to have anything to the CIA, some of the assignments I got John Brennan, and they never used his name.
And that's why I know the secrets I know, including that John Brennan and Barack Obama in Thanksgiving 2015 started a coup.
It started against Hillary Clinton.
And they had me set her up in a bribe so they could blackmail her.
And then Trump won in a fluke and this whole, it all pivoted to the Russian collusion.
It's all a setup.
And I say that as the guy, I was right in the middle of it.
So anyway, I actually have realized that I think some of my orders since 2006 may have come from John Brennan.
I know a lot of things I'm not supposed to know.
Flynn says he's shocked I'm alive.
He says, I don't know why they didn't kill you and your hand moves.
The stuff you know, Patrick, is the most radioactive stuff I've ever heard.
So anyway.
alex jones
And it's been proven.
patrick m byrne
I'd love to tell you about this.
Oh, do you want to play his?
Do you have it?
You have, he opened, he wrote the preface to my book.
And he, the, we have a clip, I'm told, of the first sentence or two he read in the audio book.
Do you, Daria, can you play that?
michael flynn
Through my work as a senior intelligence officer in the world of national security and special operations, I have known about the courageous work Patrick Byrne has been directed to do on behalf of the United States government.
Most people don't understand the work of national intelligence assets, but that is what Patrick has been asked to be within the opaque world of government-to-government relationships.
patrick m byrne
So you recognize that.
michael flynn
He's been placed into extremely difficult positions.
He's had to use his judgment.
unidentified
Okay.
patrick m byrne
So that's all in the book.
But anyway, the point is when I'm talking this, I know I sound like a nutjob.
alex jones
No, you don't.
patrick m byrne
I'm breaking so many laws.
alex jones
I'm a billionaire guy that was willing to fight.
patrick m byrne
I was.
You know, I blew it all.
alex jones
And you got into, but you got into the intelligence and learned later you were in it.
That's actually how it works.
patrick m byrne
It's, yeah.
Well, anyway, so let me go to this other thing I'm supposed to break today, and they want me to get this out.
It's a big thing.
It's a big deal.
And who's the guy, Tom Finton?
What's his word?
Judicial.
alex jones
Judicial law.
He's a great guy.
patrick m byrne
Great guy.
He got a FOIA response earlier this week that our lawyer, Stephanie, has gone through, who's also Tina's lawyer and such.
And we have found there's an organization we never heard of.
And it's this one shown here.
If you even want to pull up this website.
alex jones
Oh, red shot.
patrick m byrne
Well, we'll play the club.
It's a website.
It's called States Democracy.
I'm blocking the name.
States, Democracy, something.
alex jones
States United Democracy Center.
patrick m byrne
States United Democracy Center.
That's the queen bee of lawfare.
20 Democratic AGs were signed up with them.
And you should see their emails.
It's, oh, look at, okay, so.
alex jones
Jason James targeted me.
patrick m byrne
Yeah, now look at the next image.
Can you put the next image up?
Here's like they're describing the leading democracy scholars and experts warned that prosecution of Letitia James threatens the rule of law.
So you get who they are, right?
Turns out 20 Democratic AGs hired them behind the scenes.
They were running all the lawfare against everyone who fought for election integrity.
And the emails are pathetic.
The Democratic AGs are writing them.
Like the AGs are junior associates.
alex jones
I had show trials that were produced by HBO by the second trial.
Look over the judge.
They have the same script.
Same people.
patrick m byrne
And guess who's behind?
You'll never guess.
Who funds this NGO?
alex jones
George Soros.
Yeah, you cheated.
patrick m byrne
How did you know?
It's amazing.
George Soros funds the organization.
And there's another group we're looking into behind it that the Democratic AGs basically outsource their offices to.
These guys organized the going after Tina Peters, Stephanie Lambert, Matt DiPerno, all the people you've heard, all the lawyers who lifted a pen, who got it was all run out of a center no one had heard of until now.
And it's all funded by Soros.
But what's so pathetic is these Democratic attorney generals, as they're communicating, they're acting like summer associates in a law firm talking to the senior.
They're like, well, we filed this one now.
How long do you think we should wait?
Is it okay if we do this?
They're asking for permission from this NGO about.
alex jones
Oh, I don't, I've probably only had 10 anxiety attacks in my life.
First time I had one in high school, I went home and I said, mom, I couldn't breathe.
I was like, that's an anxiety attack.
I'm sitting there in the second Connecticut show trial after Texas, and I've been sitting there in the Texas show trial produced by HBO, and I've already found guilty, and all these things I've nothing to do.
And I'm looking over in the judges in Connecticut, and I'm looking over.
She's right here, and I remember the exact same rules I couldn't do.
And it was a script.
And I start having an anxiety attack, and the lawyers look at me, they go, they think they got me because I'm under examination while this is happening.
And then I pull myself together, but I knew it was corrupt.
I knew it was bad.
But when I looked over and saw an actual script, I was like, it was next level.
Like these people 100% know they're corrupt and evil.
patrick m byrne
So it turns out that George Soros is funding an NGO we never heard of that's actually advising the state AGs.
alex jones
George Soros is running the states, which was his.
patrick m byrne
He's running the state.
They're his hired guns.
They're his bitches, if I may say.
They put him in power.
It's crazy.
alex jones
And he's an admitted Hillary Clinton CIA cutout.
patrick m byrne
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
He's.
alex jones
The State Department.
patrick m byrne
Yeah, he's State Department.
He's also Venezuela.
It's going to turn out that elements of our government are in league with China and Venezuela and everything that's gone on.
alex jones
Well, look at Larry Summers, Chinese agent.
patrick m byrne
Yeah, did you see that email?
You just put up an email that he was looking for advice from.
alex jones
Yeah, because he's dating the daughter of the deputy head of the CCP.
Again, just like Swallowswell.
And again, the Democrats were dumb enough to try to burn Trump and release this.
Yeah.
patrick m byrne
I think that your analysis is correct.
I think that the Epstein tapes are about is there's several thousand elites around the world from bankers and royalty to politicians and movie stars who are on tape either eating baby brains or having sex with a child.
And they all know that they are part of some elite.
And they may not even be like normally like that, but they got told for you to get your $100 million contract, LeBron, you're going to take one for the team.
Like, did you know LeBron did that with PDP Diddy?
So they've, so they all know that they exist.
And so they know that they're a self-aware elite.
They know they have to dig in and fight what this populist movement are doing.
alex jones
That's why they did this, so they'd be unified.
patrick m byrne
Or they're going to be, you know.
alex jones
The Nazis called it the cement of blood, where they would get them to do horrible things because now you're compromised.
patrick m byrne
Yeah.
Well, they're on tape.
And that's what's actually, I believe, behind all.
alex jones
Yeah, that's what they came and said Trump national security.
Then they double-crossed Trump and tried to connect him with no evidence.
So now he's like, we're releasing everything.
We're going after all of you.
They've got to be panicked right now.
patrick m byrne
He's a great chess player.
He's jiu-jitsu.
He jiu-jitsu them out of their, he takes their attacks and uses it.
alex jones
Well, beyond jiu-jitsu, it's more like judo.
You use their force against them.
Yeah.
patrick m byrne
Did I ever tell you that I was about two months before he was arrested?
First, I was offered after he was arrested.
I was offered to be Epstein 2.0.
They offered to set me up with something and I declined.
But I'll tell you that story a different day.
However, but I was offered.
No, Epstein put a real thing on me to get me to come visit him about two months before he got arrested.
And I was supposed to come to the island.
And I knew that they were doing that.
And like I went to, I went to a conference and somebody came to this conference and found like three opportunities over the course of a weekend to tell me, oh, Jeffrey, Jeffrey really wants to meet you, Pat.
Would you go to his island?
Don't believe what you heard.
He's a wonderful guy.
He's got the greatest trading room.
He's the most advanced guy.
He's good friends with Bill Gates.
He's on the phone all day with Bill.
He's a fabulous guy.
You're going to know he really wants you to go.
I knew they were getting me to go so they could compromise me to keep me quiet about secrets, the secrets that are in that book.
They were trying to compromise me.
So, but I got thinking, the ethically right thing to do is probably to go out and find a way to murder Jeffrey Epstein.
Did I ever tell you this story?
alex jones
You want to strangle him in the pool?
patrick m byrne
Oh, yeah, I just want to strangle him in the ocean.
alex jones
Yeah.
patrick m byrne
But then I found out.
alex jones
The point was, is that most people fighting corruption are trying to get a payoff.
So they thought you were that.
That's the normal thing.
patrick m byrne
No, they were, well, they knew that they already had figured out that I was giving things to Congress, to John Radcliffe, which turned out to be the biggest joke in the world.
I was giving Congressman John Ratcliffe the information about the deep state.
alex jones
And then Radcliffe goes, you got to shut this guy down.
patrick m byrne
Yeah, well, whatever.
But I picked up from certain people that they had figured out what I was doing.
And so they went to set me up and get me out there.
And then, and I declined, and then he got arrested.
alex jones
Let's play this clip you sent us.
Remember Hillary going Stasi, you know, talking about what she wants and what they really stand for.
Here it is.
patrick m byrne
And look at the Christiana Annapore's lack of response.
This should end her career as a journalist.
alex jones
Here it is.
hillary clinton
Isn't this little tale of extremism waving, you know, wagging the dog of the Republican Party as it is today?
And sadly, so many of those extremists, those mega extremists, take their marching orders from Donald Trump, who has no credibility left by any measure.
He's only in it for himself.
He's now defending himself in civil actions and criminal actions.
And when do they break with him?
You know, because at some point, you know, maybe there needs to be a formal deprogramming of the cult members, but something needs to happen.
patrick m byrne
Do you see how she laughed at that?
That should be any legitimate journalist's career should be over for letting her slide.
They were trying to predictive program the American public.
alex jones
A coup.
patrick m byrne
Well, that was during Biden's presidency.
They thought they were never going to lose power.
So they were moving us.
They were getting people accustomed to the idea that there was going to be persecution.
alex jones
So what do they do now?
Because they're major disarrayed.
They're trying to create a MAGA civil war, connecting Trump to Epstein with his missteps.
He got involved.
But it's ours to lose at this point.
Their funding's being cut off.
They're disarrayed.
What is your advice to President Trump, the American people?
patrick m byrne
Well, you know, in Vietnam, the people most often got ambushed as they were walking back to the base and they click away from it or something.
It's like, don't let your guard down.
We have fought a heck of a fight for five years.
We're almost there.
We definitely have to power through and not let this election a year from now take it from us.
But we're not, there's one last ugly thing that has to be done.
We cannot, we have found the cancer.
The cancer that needs to be excised is the Shavista, the Bolivarian government of Venezuela.
And none of this, we've just delayed things if all we do is we let that exist.
We have, so I'm, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm full, this is the most important war we have had to fight since in 160 years.
And so I hope we see us go take change Venezuela.
I hope we do it with as little bombing as possible, but we can't let that.
alex jones
I think Venezuela is key because it's money laundering.
But also Ukraine.
That's how the deep state is still funding itself.
Trump's cut most of the funding.
What about Ukraine?
patrick m byrne
Well, Ukraine.
So I was raised politically by hardcore right-wing, like World War II guys, guy, General Jack Vesey, who was Reagan's chairman of the Joint Chiefs twice.
Like, you don't get any more hawk than this guy.
And back, he took me to see George Schultz back in 2015, and they were in full agreement that there is no reason we should be starting World War III over Ukraine and that we, the United States, should not take it into NATO.
unidentified
These were guys who were as and that's the Baker group.
patrick m byrne
Yeah, yeah.
Well, yeah, that's the baby.
And there's that, you know, he did say not an inch further.
alex jones
That's even the old school, you know.
patrick m byrne
But even the way to view it, the idealists want to say, well, why should Putin be able to do this or that?
The realistic way to view the world is there are three great nations, the U.S., Russia, and China.
Each has special prerogatives.
And what we need to do is get those three into some kind of agreement.
And then each of them sort of runs their block.
That's the way to peace.
And the idea that we can do it with just international organizations and this liberal order that we've been fighting for since World War II, I think that theory is on its death knell.
alex jones
And the EU's plan to stay relevant by defeating Russia is insane.
patrick m byrne
And by taking Ukraine into NATO, that is provoking.
That's something, if you view the world in terms of three great powers, we don't do these things to each other.
We shouldn't be taking Ukraine into NATO.
We should have kept it neutral all along.
We've essentially lost, you know, we're lucky if Putin doesn't take 85% of it.
He doesn't want the Catholic part, but he wants 85% of it.
If we can keep him to taking the 20% he's already taken.
alex jones
That's a win.
unidentified
So when NATO started it, so when NATO started it.
alex jones
I'm worried about the attempted MAGA civil war, the corporate media giving attention to people that attacked Trump, not from a legitimate place to get him to course correct, but just to create a fight.
I'm really concerned about that.
Where do you see that going?
patrick m byrne
Well, that's a good point.
And it is splitting MAGA.
And it's on, you're talking about all this stuff on the Israeli question or the Charles Kirk question.
alex jones
Kirk, Israel, and Epstein.
patrick m byrne
Well, I think Epstein's going to come back.
I think the Epstein does a lot more damage to Democrats than the Republicans.
alex jones
Yeah, you're informed, but that's because you're informed.
unidentified
Yeah.
patrick m byrne
Well, what do I think of that?
You're better tied into this whole sphere.
What do you think of that?
Let me throw that on you.
What do you think is the reason?
alex jones
I think Trump should give sophisticated answers like today and yesterday that, no, it's not that Epstein's a hoax.
Me being involved is a hoax.
And he shouldn't get mad at supporters that are under attack.
And he should just ignore Massey and Green and just move forward.
patrick m byrne
Yes, I'm sorry that he goes after Massey like he does because I actually like Massey.
I think he's a you don't like him?
alex jones
No, I do.
No, I'm saying it's exactly.
I'm saying it's a bad move.
patrick m byrne
It's the wrong time to have a to be bayoneting our own wounded.
We've got lots of wounded.
It's been a crazy five years.
We shouldn't be bayoneting our own wounded right now.
alex jones
I agree.
So when you're back on Thursday for two hours, we're going to do your book, your film, but how do people find you, Patrick Byrne?
patrick m byrne
Twitter or I do something on X as Patrick Byrne at Patrick Byrne.
I'm on locals as well.
alex jones
EnemyWithin, docu series.com, Americaproject.com.
And what are we going to cover on Thursday?
patrick m byrne
Well, we'll work out, there's clips from, we have some Venezuelan defectors who have gone under oath in a courtroom in Florida and given some testimony about how SmartMatic and Dominion is the same stuff, how none of this can be trusted, everything's rigged from Serbia.
These are little clips out of testimony given under oath that is now part of an indictment that we have public that are quite, you know, watching.
It's just a minute or two long, most of them.
See if any of them interest you.
alex jones
Our last question.
I know you don't have any secret info, but you've been in the center of this.
I predicted it.
When does the Maduro doesn't leave, what, two weeks, the U.S. strikes ports, and then they overrespond, we have an excuse to go in.
patrick m byrne
I'm going to put it this way.
However this is, I'm confident that it will be all resolved one way or another by Christmas.
That whatever direction things go would be kicked off before Christmas.
And I'm being quite conservative there, I think.
alex jones
I agree.
So America's long surrender is over.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
patrick m byrne
Oh, yeah.
We're on our teal.
We're no longer on our heels.
We're on the balls of our feet, and we're moving.
alex jones
All right, Patrick Byrne, thank you so much.
We got another big guest coming up.
Eric Boeing, straight ahead.
Stay with us for AT-2025 Transmission.
Coming up in about 53 minutes from now, I'm going to be live with the great Eric Bowling, known him for many, many years.
You know, great former Fox News host, top host over there at Newsmax, other shows he does, best-selling, two-time New York Times, best-selling author and host of the new YouTube show called The Edge.
I wanted to get him on, though, because he invited me on his show.
I said, I'll go on yours.
You got to go on mine.
To talk about 10 months in Trump, where we are, the Epstein thing.
Trump's not connected to anything.
It's all the Democrats.
Now they're releasing this latest thing, like Trump said today.
He goes, it's not going to end now.
They just keep demanding more stuff.
It's just crazy what the Democratic Party does.
Now they have the lowest approval rating ever, the lowest fundraising ever.
This is ours to lose.
And this MAGA civil war that's happening, which I get the different groups fighting with each other and things, but at the end of the day, the left's promoting this.
This should not be our main focus because Trump is nine and day compared to the Democrats.
So, Eric, we've got so many topics and things to cover with you here today, but front and center, what is the state of the American Republic?
And what is the state of the Trump administration right now from your view?
Because we know you're dialed in at the White House and Mar-Logo and you're talking to the whole world.
You're talking to everybody.
Are we still winning as much as we were when Trump got in 10 months ago or are we starting to stall out?
eric bolling
I think we're in a great position.
I think we're in a wonderful position.
There are things I, you know, let's be frank.
I'll be very transparent.
I was the original MAGA.
I'm an OG MAGA.
Steve Bannon will tell you.
They brought me in in 2016 to become their commerce secretary.
I was brought to Trump Tower.
Bannon brought me up, put me in a conference room, said, we want you for commerce, Secretary.
And I said, Steve, I love you.
And Ryan's Priebus came in.
He's like, we're going to give Trump your name for commerce.
And I said, guys, I'm in the center seat on the five right now.
I was doing this every day on the five, doing very well.
I loved it.
I said, I respectfully going to have to decline the offer, but thank you very much.
And my point is, I've been MAGA, OG MAGA, since day one.
I think Trump is doing a phenomenal job.
I think he saved this country from a slide into socialism twice, not once, but twice.
And this time he's doing it more aggressively than the first time.
There are certain things I don't love about Trump, but here's the rub right now.
MAGA is becoming bifurcated.
It's becoming a split in MAGA because there's a certain core MAGA base that just wants to believe everything, every single thing Trump does is the right way to do every single thing.
I just don't live that way.
I love what he's doing.
I think he saved the country.
However, I don't like the idea of tariffs.
I'm a libertarian through and through.
I have since the day I understood what money was about.
I don't like tariffs.
I think they mess with the free market.
I think you're seeing volatility in our markets because of it.
Other than that, I would like him focusing on pricing, cost of goods here, and stop worrying about some of the stuff overseas.
I will tell you, we are blessed to have Donald Trump in the Oval Office right now versus Kamala Harris, God forbid Joe Biden, or really, God forbid, Michelle Obama, which I think she's going to want to make a run for in 28.
alex jones
But then I believe we're not in the cult, but we know it's light years better, so we defend Trump.
So Eric Bowling with the top show on New America's Voice is here with us right now talking about this MAGA Civil War.
I know when I'm on your show coming up a little bit later, you want to talk about this with MTG and the rest of it.
I just think that when Trump disagrees with somebody that's been in his base, just move on because it's only destructive to it, you know, because he's saying MTG's wrong to want to release these Epstein emails, but suddenly he's now for it.
He just admitted she was right.
Why create this firestorm?
eric bolling
Well, I think you realize He clearly didn't want it released.
No one knows really why he didn't want it released.
I've been calling for it to be released, not because I'm against Trump or I have anything negative to Trump.
I just think the victims deserve their day in the spotlight, so to speak, this and in fact, find out who the donors were that were part of the whole Epstein issue.
So I'm in favor of it being released.
I think when Trump realized that there were four Republicans that were going to jump in and vote to have it released, he said, well, we should just release it.
And he's taking kind of this tact that I'm okay with it going forward.
I don't know what's in it.
Alex, I know we'll know why it was so difficult to get this thing released.
Remember, they ran on it.
Trump ran on it.
Also, Kash Patel and Pam Bondi, the minute they were appointed in their Department of Justice, said we're going to release the full file.
They had those little packets they gave away to some influencers.
And then they walked it back at some point.
I think that really kind of messed with people.
I just wanted to, I've said this on my show, Alex.
No matter what's in that file, Trump can't be reluctant.
He's term limited to becoming the 48th president of the United States or continuing his term at 47.
He can't do it.
We're not going to get a constitutional amendment.
The Supreme Court's not going to allow him to do it.
So I wanted to just release it.
Just release it.
No one's going to prosecute an 82-year-old guy for things that happened 25 years ago, right?
So just release this stuff.
I don't think it's going to affect the midterms.
I think this game that they're playing back and forth may have an effect on the midterms.
Right now you have MTG take sniping at the president, the president turning around, calling her Marjorie Trader Green or Marjorie Taylor Brown, because when things die, they turn brown.
And it's just not healthy for the Republicans and certainly around 2026.
I don't know what the game is.
There's something, Alex, you know, we've known Trump a long time.
I've known Trump for 30 years.
I was at before Celebrity Apprentice, I was at the Apprentice.
I've known the guy.
I've never seen him reluctant about something like this.
Remember when he said I could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue?
He was running for president.
I could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and they'd still vote for me.
He was right.
Or John McCain is a loser.
I don't like losers.
He was right.
I don't know what's in it, who is being protected.
I just have a hunch there's high profile, very wealthy donors on both sides who are being protected.
And I just want to see it.
I want it out there.
I don't think it's going to have to be a significant thing.
alex jones
Well, that's it.
eric bolling
It's going to have an effect on someone.
alex jones
I mean, we know that.
Trump is not involved.
All the victims, all of it, totally, the emails they release are exculpatory for him.
But we know now from my sources, Ratcliffe came to him.
Now they're saying it.
Speaker of the House, you know, today, oh, national security, that's why I want the Senate to try to block a bunch of these names.
No, exactly.
It's a bunch of high-powered establishment bankers, university-eds politicians.
And so Trump went along with this because he knows the FBI is not going to prosecute him with DOJs, not anyways, but somehow then turned it into him.
How does he get out of that?
Because it's a big issue with voters.
eric bolling
I don't know.
I don't know.
The only thing I can think of, Alex, is, and I noticed a couple of days ago, Trump called on Pam Bonnie to investigate some Democrats, right?
Some Democrats that they're rumored to be on this list.
And the only thing I can think of is that if she does open up investigations into these folks, you could technically probably find a reason to redact some names, specifically with those investigations, which may include the sensitivities that someone seems to be worried about.
I don't think Trump inherently is worried about this.
He doesn't worry about those types of things.
He's being told, he's being directed to push back on this for a reason.
I don't think it's a little cat and mouse game.
He says he was playing because he just wanted them to go crazy and he was going to turn it over and it was going to be a big nothing burger.
I think there's a lot that's going to be in this that is going to have people kind of rethinking who they support.
And I don't mean Trump.
I mean other politicians.
I mean other titans of business.
I think there will be a lot of ripple effects to this going forward.
So, I don't know why Trump needs to feel he's protecting.
So, it just doesn't, it's not adding up to me, but I'm sure once we see it, if the Senate, if the Senate does agree to release it, they should now because Trump said he's okay with it.
And then we'll find out what that's right.
alex jones
They've named who it is.
And the victims have done paintings literally of George Soros.
We're just showing and others.
So, but if you pull back from this, they've had Johnson, they've had others come out and say it's national security.
So, I think we know the answer there that Trump's own intelligence community is saying, Don't bring this out.
eric bolling
Are you saying Israel?
Are you saying, I mean, there's a growing belief that there are some Israeli officials on there that the United States is going to try and protect?
Israel is becoming, for whatever reason, Israel is becoming the really bifurcated issue that's ripping MAGA apart right now.
alex jones
No, I agree.
Absolutely.
That's the Civil War in and of itself.
So, I have a clip of plan a moment where they're you have Mike Ben, super smart, you know, working with Trump administration, ex-pro State Department, explaining, no, the real documents for the State Department that Epstein was State Department that's above the CIA, which we know.
So, it's bigger than Mossad.
It's State Department, the Democrats, Mossad, MI6, but absolutely, and he took over.
eric bolling
Yeah, but why would the Trump administration hold that back?
Why would Kash Patel and Pambondi say, well, we're going to release this at the 11th hour say, Well, we're not going to release it after all.
If it is, as you point out, or as Mike says, and by the way, brilliant guy, I agree that the State Department, it's got to be both sides.
There has to be sensitivities on both sides.
Remember, Biden Department of Justice has had that for four years, and they didn't nail Trump with it.
If he was as bad as the left would like to think he is in this list, they would have been out before the 2020.
They did everything.
They do everything they could to make sure he wasn't president in 2024.
That would have been an easy one to siphon some votes off, and they couldn't get themselves to do it.
There's sensitivities, and I don't know.
I think we deserve, we all deserve to know, and certainly the victims deserve to know as well.
alex jones
Well, I mean, I don't think it's speculation now.
We have Speaker Johnson today saying we want the Senate to block with an amendment releasing a bunch of these names for national security.
And then we have Trump saying there's a bunch of innocent people, it'll hurt national security because these aren't convicted people, but still.
And then you've got Mike Ben saying, no, I've looked at it.
I'm not allowed to tell you, but this is all State Department stuff, which we know.
I mean, the State Department was financing this guy for decades.
So that's what this is.
And it goes back to the FBI is covering up Thomas Crooks and all his background saying it was no football.
eric bolling
Let's play that.
Let's play that a little bit.
Let's play that.
You and I. Let's game that out, right?
So back when Clinton Clinton presidency, I guess, would be the State Department under Clinton, maybe that's where this allegedly.
alex jones
And then Hillary Rand under Obama.
eric bolling
For what end, though?
For what end?
Okay, so you're using Epstein to get high-profile people in bed with young women and have leverage on them to get them to do what you want.
Who and why, right?
Okay, so if that's the case, then by all means, let's find out who, right?
alex jones
No, I agree with you, but it's larger than that.
It was an official State Department operation.
The girls were like a side issue.
They were like, you know, you go to the bar, they got a thing of peanuts there.
I'm not putting down what happened to him.
It's saying it was the money laundering.
Epstein had up to $2 million a month going through his bank account, Eric.
So I'm saying they were using him as a clearinghouse like Soros.
That's why this is happening.
eric bolling
Well, great, great.
Well, let's find out, right?
So why would Trump hold back George Soros laundering billions or however many dollars laundering through Epstein?
alex jones
No, no, I totally agree.
I agree.
It should all come out.
eric bolling
I agree.
alex jones
It should all come out.
I'm explaining why from, I said this before Trump got back in.
This is what I was told.
Roger Stone told me right when President Trump was elect election, he goes, you're never getting Epstein.
Ratclow came to him.
And Roger Lee admitted this.
I didn't give up the source.
He said I could talk about it later, but he kind of got mad.
He was told, this ain't coming out.
The CIA says you can't do it.
And I agree.
Trump should override them and release it.
eric bolling
He can release it.
He doesn't even need a congressional.
He doesn't need a bill or law.
He can have it released.
He can instruct Pam Bondi to just release the full entirety of whatever the Epstein file is or isn't.
alex jones
You're right.
Only the president can do that.
eric bolling
You're right.
He can.
He doesn't need Congress.
He doesn't need the Senate.
If he wants it released, he could have had it released.
My concern is that there's some shenanigans going on to hold back.
If you redact one document, Alex, just one document, the whole thing's garbage.
The whole thing is garbage, in my opinion.
Either release the whole thing or just eat it and say we're not going to release it.
alex jones
I see him today.
I'm going to debate with the leader of Saudi Arabia to say, I want everything released, but I'm not in charge of it.
Because, you know, the Democrats say release it.
Then both judges blocked the grand jury stuff.
It's really the real meat.
And so Trump's thing is, I don't control this.
Quit telling me to release it.
He said, I ordered JFK files.
I ordered MLK.
He's like, I'm not the one that killed RFK.
He literally said, did you see that?
He's like, so just quit bitching at me.
eric bolling
He can have it.
He can have it released.
I mean, a judge can block it temporarily, but those will go away.
I mean, this is constitutional right there.
He's the commander-in-chief.
He's got the executive power to instruct the Department of Justice, who works at the behest of the executive branch.
He's the top of the executive branch.
He can say, Pam, release the whole darn thing unredacted.
This goes away unless there are ties.
And we're going to.
alex jones
Well, let's be clear, Eric Bowling.
Let's be clear.
eric bolling
Whatever it is, though, the world will get over whatever's in that thing at some point.
And is it he wanted to wait till after the midterms?
I don't know.
That would say Republicans are at risk.
Maybe there are a bunch of Republican names on that list that he would lose the House in midterms.
That's a possibility too.
And he's only thinking, and he's not thinking of himself.
He's thinking of retaining the House.
And that may have been part of the game.
But we'll never know.
We'll speculate, but we'll never really know.
My guess, it's their names on both sides of the so high profile, which only tells you we need to know these things.
Because we don't want to hold these people in high esteem if their pedophile creeps, right?
We want to remove them, right?
So eat it.
I mean, it could be a cleansing moment.
alex jones
All right.
Eric Bowling with Real America's Voice.
Be sure to check that out, Eric Bowling on X.
And I want to be clear.
I'm not defending this cover-up.
I've been exposing it, predicting it.
I'm just trying to put out the questions to Eric, but I totally agree with you about this fiasco.
Let's go to two clips.
Here is Mike Benz, who's dead on, because we don't need to just believe him, though.
He's seen the documents.
He's been read into it.
All this is classified.
Works for the president previously and currently doing some work.
But this already came out that it was a State Department operation with the CIA Mossad and he was being bankrolled.
And then with Bill Barr's dad that ran the girls' school and the CIA and all of it.
So Trump needs to know they're going to frame him.
He's got to release it all.
But here's Mike Benz saying, no, the State Department thing is a smoking gun.
That's the real files of who he really worked for.
Go right to the top.
And then we have Mike Johnson going, oh, national security, we need to have a Senate bill that blocks this to cover this stuff up.
That's Mike Johnson right there doing it.
Then we have Trump at the Oblival Office today and yesterday saying, no, release it all.
Here it is.
mike benz
When you look at, for example, the close relationship between Jeffrey Epstein, the Clinton family, and the Ahud Barak Israeli Labor Party, it is patently clear that if the Central Intelligence Agency and the State Department were to do a sweep of all of their files, communications, records, a simple name trace of Jeffrey Epstein's name, the voluminous scale of the documentation, I think, would be enormous.
The State Department rented out a physical property to Jeffrey Epstein personally in the 1990s.
You and I can't just get the State Department as our personal landlord after seizing a mansion from the government of Iran, to say nothing of Epstein's work doing Iran-Contra with both the U.S. and Israeli side of intelligence through the Adnan Khashoggi link or through what was being done in the 1990s between Bill Clinton and Ahud Barak when he was the prime minister there.
Jeffrey Epstein setting up the Clinton Global Initiative.
She goes on to be Secretary of State.
For some reason, they are not pursuing this lead, and it is maddening to watch from the outside.
mike johnson
All right.
Number five, national security concerns, okay?
The discharge requires the Attorney General to release within 30 days, quote, classified information to the maximum extent possible.
This ignores the principle that declassification should always rest and always has rested with the agency that originated the intelligence.
Why?
So that they can protect their critical sources and methods.
It is incredibly dangerous to demand that officials or employees of the DOJ declassify materials that originated in other agencies and intelligence agencies.
alex jones
So they're in full panic mode, Eric Bowling at Real America's Voice.
How does Trump extricate himself to something that wasn't his disaster, but he is in many ways telling his supporters, if you questioned many times last few months, Indie Epstein, it's all a hoax.
You're not MAGA.
He's clarified.
No, no, Epstein's real, but I'm not involved.
That is a hoax.
What should President Trump do?
eric bolling
I don't know.
I don't know why.
And clearly, Mike Johnson's been instructed to create a little bit of a smoke screen.
Maybe it's so that Pam Bondi can pull and redact some documents to protect some people.
I just don't understand why.
You know, you have to ask yourself, and Benz is brilliant, but what was Epstein doing to so the girls were used as honeypots to get influential men and people, I think women too, in bed with these girls so that they so they would shut up if they ever wanted to talk.
And while they knew that Epstein was running a money laundering operation, maybe seems very convoluted.
You can launder money a lot easier than implicating a bunch of people who may or may not be on board as well.
There's easier ways to launder a billion billion dollars, especially if you're Mossad or the United States deep state actors.
And then why would Pam Bondi and Kash Patel promise the full release of everything they have?
Everything.
They didn't say, well, give you partials and here's some.
They said, we're going to give you the whole thing.
And then when they started digging into it, they decided, well, maybe we couldn't or we shouldn't release this.
And they started walking it back.
At that point, it's just cleanse, cleanse MAGA right now.
Cleanse MAGA.
Take this away from the Democrats because you know they're going to use this.
They're going to use the bifurcation.
They're going to use Marjorie Taylor Greene against Trump.
They're going to use Trump against the folks that are pushing to have it released.
It's so unhealthy for the party, especially going into a very long time.
He's lame duck, Alex.
He's lame duck if he doesn't get the house in 12 months.
He's lame duck.
I mean, he didn't want that either.
So let's figure it out.
Let's get through this now, right?
I'm sorry, I cut you off.
alex jones
No, you're totally right.
I need Trump to succeed.
I know he's unwalled.
And you look at Pam Bondi and Kash Patel and Bongino, and all the responses are the very perk, like hole-in-wands, but reverse.
The worst thing you do to act guilty when there's no evidence.
So obviously behind the scenes, there's a lot of pressure going on here.
And they need to understand you should fear the people and the election more than the deep state.
Just go to full war.
I think it's what you're saying.
eric bolling
I'm saying, you know what, you got to throw, you drank too much.
I don't know if you drink.
You drank too much when you're a young guy.
You drink too much.
You know, you got to throw.
And you're miserable.
You're just horrible.
You're miserable.
And you just don't want to throw up.
And you finally throw up and you feel better.
alex jones
And you're not.
I've done that.
eric bolling
It wasn't as bad as more than a few times.
And then you heal.
You get better faster.
Otherwise, he needs to get through this.
Just release it.
No matter how bad it is, unless he'll say somehow.
alex jones
I don't know if it's censorship's happening or what, but Eric, we just lost your audio.
Hold on, we got to go to perfectly.
A break was already said.
Not a conspiracy to shut him down.
We always go to break at 28.50 for 28 years.
So did the same senior show for 28 years, but we're not censoring Eric Bowling.
I promise he'll come right back.
We'll hear what he has to say.
Dannyaho just made the call.
unidentified
He had a sound like, shut that down.
alex jones
Ben Shapiro, hold on.
Ben, shut it down.
All right, I'll shut Eric Bowling down.
unidentified
I walk along the avenue.
All right.
alex jones
Well, I love the fact that Eric Bowling's microphone cut out and we had to go to break at the same time.
People are going to say, whoa, Jones or Netanyahu called, they shut that down.
We do not want you to hear this information, but Eric's back and top host over at Real America Voice.
So looking at this, you were saying right when your audio cut out that no matter how bad it is, Trump's got to release it all.
Well, I've already studied this.
First person to break it almost 20 years ago.
There's nothing there.
It's all Democrats, as Trump said.
So I agree.
He has to release everything now.
What else does Trump need to do to ensure we win these midterms coming up, Eric Bowling?
eric bolling
I think the other, by the way, the thought that just got kind of clipped towards the end, I'm not sure if it was our side or whatever, is that when you're sick and you just you're worried about throwing out, you finally get sick and you start to heal once you get sick.
alex jones
I've been drunk plenty in college and stuff and you finally puke, you feel better.
eric bolling
You can start working on getting better.
They need to get that through.
I think right now, I just personally think Trump should drop all his foreign policy stuff.
Stop bombing boats in the waters coming over from Venezuela.
Just focus on getting prices down.
We've got a real gift here.
Oil prices are $60 a barrel.
They averaged $92 a barrel under Joe Biden.
It's 50% or 33% cheaper.
Now, that means prices should be coming down.
The White House, the administration, has to get into these companies and say, guys, your input costs are coming down.
The cost for fuel is one of the major inputs onflation to cover the gouging.
They're going to get a shatter profit.
alex jones
Correct.
eric bolling
Alex, they're keeping their prices high, and it's costing them less to produce, and they're fattening their profit margins.
Get the administration to say, we have anti-gouging laws in this country.
Get your prices down.
Your input costs are going down.
Pass it along to the consumer.
Because if you go into the midterms with inflation where it is right now, you're going to have a hard time.
I don't care what the number is.
It's what Americans are feeling right now.
If you bring these prices down for food, not just energy, but for food, you will go a long way totally agree.
alex jones
He's going after the beef monopoly.
He also blasts big, fat, rich insurance companies that literally wrote Obamacare as a screw job.
More of this, right, Eric?
eric bolling
100 million percent.
Not just beef, though.
Do it everywhere.
Go into Kellogg's to say, reduce your cereal prices.
We got the price of energy down.
It costs a lot.
There's a lot of energy that goes into cultivating corn for your cereals, wheat.
Get all these prices down.
Go to Pepsi-Cola, go to Coke, go to all the places, go to Apple.
Hey, Apple, I know you promised to do your thing here in the next couple of years.
You may or may not actually do it.
In the meantime, why don't you reduce the price of an iPhone thanks to Trump, right?
alex jones
Eric, you just hit something key here.
I don't know if you saw this, but six months ago, a bunch of reports came out that were buried only in consumer reports and in industry reports that corporations were piggybacking on this and saying we're going to hurt Trump by not lowering prices and fattening profits.
And there were also examples like Hallmark, based in the Midwest, sent out messages to all their customers and to their employees to tell people, sorry, Hallmark cards are double priced because of Trump.
They have nothing to do with tariffs.
All their products made here.
So definitely, definitely they're working corporations to keep prices high to set Trump up and kill the recovery.
eric bolling
Well, you know, it's twofold.
Yeah, to set Trump up, kill the recovery, threefold, kill the recovery, but also they're using the high inflation under buy-inomics, the prices, they're called sticky on the way down.
I've been doing this my whole life from Wall Street.
Prices move up real fast with costs.
You know, you have input costs, whether it's fuel or insurance or labor, whatever the cost of an input to produce a great prices go up fast.
Raw materials and labor goes up fast.
Rent, whatever it is, goes up fast.
On the way down, when prices, it's called sticky.
So they price input costs go down, but their pricing comes down at the retail level much slower.
That fattens their profit.
They use that as a shield to make bigger profit.
Maybe they're not political.
Maybe they're just greedy fat cats that want to make more money because their stock prices will go up when they report earnings next quarter.
But they're using it.
alex jones
But if the company of the country is coming.
But if the company of the country tanks with 20 trillion investment coming in, then they screw themselves.
eric bolling
Let me throw something here, Alex.
I'll do something for you on your show.
Howard Luttnick is the worst.
He's the worst person in the whole Trump administration, number one.
Number two, the worst commerce secretary in the history of America because he should be doing this thing.
He can only think of how can I tax more by getting more tariffs.
That's his only game.
He's got no other game.
What he should be doing is going to every single industry, every single sector, food, power, electricity, insurance, housing.
alex jones
And they listen to the president.
They'll do what he says.
eric bolling
Tell them, reduce your margins.
They're too high.
You're using, and it's hurting the Trump administrations.
So we have our eye on you.
You want to play games with us?
We'll play with you.
But Howard Luttnick isn't smart enough to do it.
alex jones
No, I know you're a smart economist.
We should mention.
I'm not a former professional baseball player and a top Fox host.
So I study economics, not like you, but you're absolutely right.
Saudi Arabia, when Trump snaps, they do what he says.
Oil companies do what he says.
But we've got to go down to all the hundreds of other sectors.
eric bolling
Hundreds, hundreds of sectors, companies, products, one by one.
You got 2 million people working in the government.
You probably have 30,000 people in the commerce department.
Have them banging the CEOs of every one of these major corporations to lower your margins.
They're too fat right now.
You're going to do great for your constituents, but we're not happy with you.
The American people, we risk losing.
That's where you need prices to come down.
I don't care what you say at election time, especially midterms.
alex jones
No, I agree.
I said that.
I said that.
I said that last Friday.
I said, it is all about $35 cheeseburgers and 50-year mortgages.
What a horrible idea.
eric bolling
Again, he's being advised by the worst commerce secretary in the history of commerce and maybe one of the worst economists.
I mean, you need someone who understands business in the commerce department, running the commerce department.
I think Scott Beston is fine.
Hassard is fine.
They're fine.
They're playing the game.
But where the rubber hits the row with this one, especially is commerce.
You need these industries to start reducing their profit margins.
They're too fat because we need to win the midterms.
Are you going to get a Democrats?
You're going to get a socialist in there and then they'll really get a profit.
alex jones
Give us the message that Trump and his service should be giving to the Fortune 500, the Fortune 2000, really.
It's a very simple call.
It's all going to collapse.
You're going to lose everything.
You want a place to spend your money.
Here's what you're going to do.
And historically, these corporations actually listen to the president.
I mean, he should even say, how about profit for stockholders, no profit for executives this year?
Take one for the team.
What does the president say?
It's not to bring money in and have them build factories.
That takes a few years.
He has to go in now and say, cut prices.
eric bolling
Yeah, it's the whole idea of this tariff situation is going to bring manufacturing back.
There are a lot of CEOs who I'm sure are telling Trump they're going to build a trillion-dollar plant or half a trillion, $500 billion plant as soon as possible, which would happen after 2028, most likely.
And they can pull the plug on all those ideas.
They're just trying to curry favor with the president.
I would say, take your Commerce Department.
I would get 500 employees dialing, speed dialing every one of the CEOs of the Fortune 2000, whatever it is, the biggest companies in the world who are producing goods and products for the United States consumer and say, the president wants you to drop your margins.
Not asking you to lose money.
Just drop the margins to the level that he's created for you.
In other words, lower energy, lower input costs, lower energy prices costs means it's cheaper to develop food.
alex jones
Yeah, we're not stupid.
We've cut the main inputs.
You're cheating.
We've cut the main inputs.
Absolutely.
eric bolling
And it's either you're doing it too much and it could be some sort of illegal activity of gouging or you're not doing it to a gouging level, but you're going to piss off the president.
We're going to lose the midterms.
And by the way, you lose the midterms.
You might lose the presidency in 28.
You might get a socialist in the office because that's the way the Democrats are going straight to socialism.
And what happens then?
Then socialism takes over.
Your free market's cooked.
Your consumer is cooked.
There will be no more profit margins for you and the economy will probably tank.
So wake the hell up.
You're being foolish to pull a profit in in the next quarter or two and you might sacrifice the rest 20 years to do so.
alex jones
This is the smartest thing I've heard much.
You're absolutely right.
And I know the corporations I talk to, they're not getting any messages and they're using this as an excuse to make big profits where they're going to kill the golden goose if they don't do it.
This has to happen like right now.
eric bolling
Clip the segment, send it into the send in the admin.
They'll get it to Luttnick.
Maybe he'll wake the hell up.
alex jones
Well, what is Trump's deal?
I mean, Luttnick's a likable guy, but you're right.
Why is he the golden boy?
eric bolling
New York billionaire.
Trump's known him a long time.
I've known him for 30 years as well.
He's not a good guy.
He's a greedy, cocky, self-centered, couldn't give a crap about anyone else besides Howard Luttnick.
And if you need to figure that out, if you don't believe me, just go back to what happened after 9-11 when his company, Cannon Fitzgerald, was at the top of the World Trade Center, came down.
He wasn't there, but refused to come up with the health benefits for the folks of the 200 or 300 employees that died working for him in the World Trade Center until he was forced to.
alex jones
Did that include his brother?
eric bolling
His brother, I believe, passed away in that accident as well, if I'm not mistaken.
alex jones
His brother was there.
I'm just asking, did he deny his brother's benefit as well?
eric bolling
Probably not.
I mean, I'm sure he didn't deny his own benefits, but the families of the people who lost in the World Trade Center that were working for Canada Fitzgerald had to sue, and they won to get Howard Luttnick's company to pay for their funeral costs and health benefits, which is insane.
If you remember back that, I mean, I had friends that worked at Canada.
I had friends that worked in the World Trade Center.
We were doing everything we could for those poor folks that lost loved ones in that moment.
alex jones
I'd forgotten.
I saw that.
I know you were there.
Luttnick tried to divide basic insurance for the dead people at his company.
unidentified
Yeah.
eric bolling
No, he was until he was forced to.
You know, and then, you know, and people forget.
People have short memories.
It's fine.
Maybe change.
Maybe he's a great guy now.
I don't know.
I will tell you, I think he's a terrible commerce secretary.
I would just tell you, he's never been good at anything except what's in it for himself.
And this is him.
Tariffs became his baby.
Trump likes him.
And he's riding this wave, but do something because tariffs, tariffs are, they may not even get to keep the tariffs.
Who knows?
But help fix the.
alex jones
What do you think the Supreme Court's going to do on tariffs?
eric bolling
You know, if the Supreme Court ends up calling him a tax, which a lot of people call them taxes, then they won't be able to keep it because only Congress can levy taxes.
They have the power of the purse.
If they call it some sort of, you know, executive authority to enhance trade in America, it depends on how the Supreme Court reads it.
Personally, I just wish it would go away because you mess with the best market, the free market in America.
It created the most wealthy nation in the history of the world by 10 or 20 fold.
And why are we messing with that?
Just let it happen.
Yeah.
Does it cost more to send a good over there to China than here?
Yes.
But in China, they can pay a worker $500 a month and they sleep in barracks.
I mean, we don't have that luxury to do that.
We don't have that.
We have rules against that.
So yeah, it's going to cost more in different directions, but the free market always figures out a way.
If there's a cheaper way to do it, free market will have competition come in and do it in a cheaper way.
The bottom line is conservatives hate taxes, right?
Tariffs are taxes.
Let's just call it what it is.
But they want to call it a tariff so it doesn't sound like a tax, but it's a tax.
Taxing goods coming into the country.
I'm against all taxes.
alex jones
Well, you're definitely a smart guy.
I'm about to be on your show on Real America's Voice, Eric Bowling on X. What are you asking me?
eric bolling
Same thing.
Let's do this.
Let's do it over again.
Let's do it in reverse.
And I'll get the Alex Jones, the live Alex Jones opinion on all these things.
But you can't use any curse words on Real America's Voice because we're still cable.
We're digital cable and satellite, but we have a couple of rules.
unidentified
Don't worry.
alex jones
I don't care.
eric bolling
I hope I need to curse.
All right.
It's always, Alex, it's really good to be with you.
We've been hanging out for, what, 20 years or so?
I remember seeing Alex in the Trump Hotel a bunch of times and coming on shows together.
Really good working with you, my friend.
alex jones
And listen, you're coming to Trump with a place of love.
You know, MTG, I think she overall means well.
I think you overresponded, but I think she's looking for an exit out.
I think she's scared of the Democrats.
They get back together and try to put her in prison.
My gut level, she hasn't told me this.
I think MTG is trying to get out.
eric bolling
You know, I think MTG and I can kind of feel for where she is.
And she was really, really super pro-Trump.
When he was looking for folks, and there were times where there were some dark days after 2020.
She was always there.
She was always there.
And so maybe she feels a little abandoned, but I think both of them are taking it a little too far, to be honest with you, Alex.
alex jones
Yeah, no, I don't think she's a traitor.
eric bolling
She's not a traitor.
She's not a traitor.
And you can disagree with Trump and not.
I disagree with Trump on tariffs.
I'm not a traitor.
I love him.
I'm thrilled he's the president.
I'm thanking God he's the president.
You can disagree with policy and still believe, you know, in the mission, America First, MAGA, you can still believe in that.
And I do.
So I think her issue with Epstein, it got a little blown out of proportion, especially if this thing gets released.
I mean, he's going to turn around and say, well, we're going to release it anyway.
So why are you fighting then?
Guys, can you please kiss?
alex jones
Well, yeah, she's calling her a traitor for saying release this latest crap because he said today there's never an end to the Epstein files here with all these suits and criminal cases and emails.
And so he's like, release it all.
I don't give a crap.
But then he's calling her a traitor for saying release it.
And now he's endorsing releasing it.
Why not just, you know, look, it hurt when they ran Elon out because he was making such giant cuts.
The Republic establishment did it.
I told listeners, I said, this is going to hurt Trump.
They're like, oh, no, you need to, you need to just stick with Trump and be an occult.
I'm like, no, it was dumb.
Now he's trying to bring Elon back and Elon doesn't even want to come back.
And it was just like, stop running off the champions.
They're going to tell you the truth.
eric bolling
So I'm saying, is she going to join?
Is Elon going to go through that?
The America America party, the American Party.
alex jones
No, he's dropped this.
He's back with Trump.
I mean, you know that.
eric bolling
But no, I mean, is she going there?
I don't know what her end game is, right?
So I hear Laura Loomer wants to primary her in Georgia.
Laura's pro-Trump, but she's had issues with Trump too.
alex jones
Listen, it's just not healthy for the stereotype.
It's true.
And it's Laura Loomer.
And I know Laura forever, known her 15 years, whatever, but 10 or 12, whatever it is.
She's the reason this happened.
She goes to Trump.
She got the fight going.
She has a hard on for MTG.
And she's just the ultimate drama queen.
And she is just, it's just completely mindless.
eric bolling
I don't know if she's drama queen.
Obviously, one of her big issues is Israel.
Israel seems to be the, for whatever reason, both sides are using Israel to further their cause.
So there's, you know, on one side, there's Tucker and Fuentes and Candace Owens.
On the other side, Shapiro Bill O.
And so Laura took issue with MTG because she felt MTG and Tucker were being too tough on Israel at some point, and they just blew up.
The two of them just blew up over Israel.
alex jones
And now anything that they can find, you know, that divides the two of them, they're taking the main issue other than Epstein and people should be more concerned about cost of living and World War III.
I agree with you.
And Trump keeps saying that's what he's so focused on.
He is.
But you have Shapiro like, how dare Steve Bannon, if I get the clip ready, how dare Steve Bannon say Nick Fuentez defeated Danes D'Souza in his mid-lease debate?
Doesn't mean we agree with what Nick Fuentez says.
Everybody agreed he won that debate.
Oh, now, now Ben Shapiro is like biting off World Against You.
Now he's moved on from Tucker and MTG.
And now he's moved on to Steve Bannon, who's pro-Israel.
That's what I'm saying: there's this neocon, old guard Republican attempt to try to take over the Republican Party, which only turns people against Israel.
I'm not anti-Israel.
Israel should not be a central issue here.
I mean, do you get my take on that?
eric bolling
Yeah, no, I agree with you.
And it was, it's almost becoming a little, I want to say, it's not becoming okay to be anti-Semitic, but it's now becoming okay to be anti-Israel.
You may not like what they're doing in Gaza and Hamas, but now if you're not okay with it, now they're all of a sudden becoming the new Hitler.
Everything gets blown up.
alex jones
Let's just say it.
It is now very safe to be Hitler.
It's worse than just it's okay to be anti-Israel.
It is now the obsession, which, I mean, I literally talk about China manipulating Venezuela and half my people go, you're covering up for Israel.
Like, no, China's a major power, guys.
The only thing in the universe is not Israel is my point.
eric bolling
Yeah, it's, it's, I don't know, it's bizarre how Israel has such a huge impact on people's emotions here, especially it's dividing the right.
Can you, I mean, for a long time, it was the right supported Israel.
The left could give a crap about Israel.
We realize on the right that Israel's a huge ally in the Middle East.
They keep your eye on Iran, Saudi Arabia, some of the other radical Muslim countries in the Middle East.
We wanted them to be strong and pro-American.
Now it's like half the right doesn't agree with that.
It's getting, it's good.
It's going to be a tough.
alex jones
And then Israel lobby comes in and tries to bully people, making themselves the villain.
That's my point is we can criticize Israel or whatever all day long.
Exactly.
It should not be the main central truth.
Here's Ben Shapiro.
Now you get ready for your own show.
Ben Shapiro is now crashing out on Steve Bannon.
I remember the full interview.
I saw this because he asked to air our debate.
He just said, I don't remember what Nick Fuentes and a bunch of stuff, but he knows the Middle East.
Boy, he schooled D'Souza.
They cut it there and make it look like it's again.
Now Ben Shapiro wants to take on Steve Bannon.
Like, dude, stop.
Here it is.
ben shapiro
Here was Steve Bannon over the weekend, for example, praising Nick Fuentes.
Again, the reason this is happening, we should point out, is because there is an attempt to glaze pretty much everybody who is on the anti-Israel.
And yes, I mean, Fuentes is just an anti-Semite, anti-Semitic side in order to shift policy priorities away from what President Trump is attempting to do.
steve bannon
Alex Jones had a debate with Nick Fuentes and Dinesh D'Souza.
And you cannot, you see right there the laziness, the lack of argument, just their attitude that they just own this.
Fuentes takes this guy apart brick by brick.
It's a full takedown.
It's a full takedown because the kid shows up.
He's prepped.
He's ready.
Not only is he on point and he's always on attack.
He happens to have something called facts.
And he just overwhelms Dinesh.
Dinesh goes back and it shows you this old guard who has nothing.
alex jones
And that was out of context.
So in closing, Eric Bowling, this is not a good place to be.
eric bolling
No, and it's kind of our fault.
The talking heads on the right right now taking shots at each other.
Instead of, you know, agree to disagree on Israel and Epstein, it's like, if you are not my side, you either hate Trump and you hate everything he's about, or Trump's a radical or the other side saying Trump should be perfectly able and capable of doing anything he wants in the world.
There's no middle ground and there's no, you know, I don't disagree with where I disagree with where he is on these certain topics, but I still believe in him.
No, it's either you got to hate him or love him.
It's no, I agree.
alex jones
It's worship Trump and question nothing, even though most of his administration, or he's totally bad.
It's retarded.
Thank God he's in.
Imagine 30 seconds.
How do you get ready for your own show?
What will we under if Kamala was in power right now?
eric bolling
We'd have Kamal and Para.
We'd have socialism raging, ramping up throughout the country.
We're fortunate we have four years of Trump and hopefully four years of whoever takes over for Trump.
I don't know.
I'm not even positive it's JD Vance yet.
There's others that could be smart.
But we need to win.
Alex, the only thing matters right now, one year from now, midterms.
Only thing.
alex jones
I agree.
All right.
How do people find your show coming up in just mere medicine?
eric bolling
America's voice.
Find Alex Jones, a real America's voice.
You can find it everywhere, digital, on some cable networks, on some satellite networks, but it's a real America's voice.
I know you're on Alex.
alex jones
We'll talk to you soon.
Eric Bowling, thank you.
eric bolling
All right, buddy.
Talk to you.
Bye.
alex jones
A real discussion.
His frustration is mine.
It's like you're either total Trump or you hate Trump or you talk about Israel all day and it's just like, I'll talk about Israel.
I need to, but holy Toledo, folks, there's a lot more going on than just that.
And look, I'll take Israel to the woodshed all day long.
Anybody else, our own government, you name it.
It's just whenever I talk about China that is the big thing we're dealing with, they're cutting off all of Rara's minerals.
None of the computers, cars, nothing works for that.
I mean, we got big stuff going down here.
So we're going to spend our time, some on China.
That's because I work for Israel.
Get your channel.
All right, seriously, going to break, ending the transmission for me.
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