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Nov. 14, 2025 - Alex Jones Show
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FRIDAY EMERGENCY BROADCAST: MAGA Civil War Erupts Over Epstein Hysteria & Trump Demands Investigation Of Clintons For Their Deep Connections To Epstein! PLUS, Tucker Exposes DOJ Coverup of Thomas Crooks’ Handlers! Max Blumenthal Joins Alex Jones, And Says That Trump's Perceived Mindless Support For Israel Is Destroying MAGA In Real Time! Roger Stone Exclusively Responds To NEW Epstein Allegations Against Trump! FINALLY, Top FBI Whistleblower Kyle Seraphin Chronicles Embattled FBI Director Kash Patel's Bizar
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alex jones
02:08:16
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10:21
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kyle seraphin
26:48
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19:32
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roger stone
17:38
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dan bongino
03:07
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glenn beck
03:54
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megyn kelly
01:23
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tucker carlson
01:18
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ben collins
00:18
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camryn kinsey
00:14
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chip roy
00:14
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chris hayes
00:17
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judge andrew napolitano
00:09
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00:51
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00:08
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00:24
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01:19
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02:40
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judge andrew napolitano
The government fears Alex Jones, who has the largest audience in the country, bigger than any of the networks, the biggest megaphone in the country.
unidentified
The deep state hates Alex Jones with a vengeance.
tucker carlson
Alex Jones is the most extraordinary person I've ever met.
alex jones
I start almost every broadcast by saying, oh, hell's breaking loose because it is.
The quickening's here.
But this broadcast is going to be insane.
Oh, my goodness.
unidentified
InfoWars, tomorrow's news.
alex jones
Today, I am seeking the truth.
Nothing more.
And I 100% call what was going to happen with the Epstein stuff, how it was going to be a disaster in the last 10 months when the clear cover-up began by this administration.
And I had top whistleblowers on, experts, insiders, behind-the-scenes stuff.
And I knew why Trump was joining the cover-up.
And it's because it's all these lawsuits and all these criminal cases, and most of it's innuendo, and it's an old case, and it implicates a bunch of high-powered people.
And the CIA came to him and said, it's massage with us.
We need to just shut this down.
And Trump knew surely that 90 plus percent of the people with Epstein are high-powered Democrats.
And so he kind of wink-wink made the deal.
And then the Clintons and all of them turned around and have been cherry-picking and selecting stuff to put out to implicate Trump.
And it is a hoax that he's done something illegal with Epstein.
There is no evidence.
They would have already used it, plus the witnesses, the victims, I mean, all of it.
But then Trump stepped into the cover-up and became guilty by association.
And if he was going to do that, it's still immoral and bad, but you can see him not having a head in the clouds, trying to have other big issues because you can only focus on so many things.
I could see the thought in that.
I would want to agree with it, but I could wargand the different understandings.
Just like I understand why we need regime change to be good in Venezuela, but I don't trust the CIA and the globalist.
I mean, he'd be walking into a new Vietnam.
So, see, that's nuance.
That's real thought.
Well, I said, no, Trump, you need to release everything that is there, even though most of it's just cherry-picked old garbage.
And I predicted what that would be.
And I said, they're going to double-cross you.
And I got really pissed.
And a lot of the pro-Trump people thought that I was attacking Trump.
No, I was trying to get him to not step into a damn bear trap.
We need him to succeed.
And I told everybody months and months and months ago, have the archivists grab it.
I said it so much, it's hours of it with total precision.
I'm just saying I know what I'm talking about.
Got to have a lot of layers of info and data to be able to have this accuracy.
When the Democrats are dumb enough to come after him with it, he would then order the DOJ to go ahead and just release everything and go ahead and launch criminal indictments of the Clintons.
And that's exactly what he called for today.
He said, well, since you're launching this hoax on me, you need to be specific, which you have before.
You mean it's a hoax that you did something wrong.
Not a hoax.
There is anything there.
You've explained that before.
People went, oh, usually just, you're so pissed about it.
I get it.
You just say the whole thing's a hoax.
A new Russia gate.
Trump now wants criminal investigation of the Clinton.
Trump asked DOJ to approach Jeffrey Epstein dealings with the Clintons, J.P. Morgan, and others.
And we already know the head of JP Morgan and the head of Harvard.
We all know the names.
It's hundreds of them.
And it will be devastating for the country and devastating for the stock market.
But you know what?
That's good.
Let's just, Justice B. Don may the habits fall.
But you could see the next move there.
This is all deduction.
This is all second, third, fourth, fifth order consequences.
That's how a philosopher, historian, futurist brain works.
That's what I do.
This broadcast is 3D chess.
Now, Trump plays 3D chess on issues he knows.
It is not 3D chess on other things.
He's explained that.
He said, I didn't know how DC worked.
I didn't understand how corrupt it was.
I didn't understand that if I shared power with them and had prosperity, you know, that they would stab me in the back.
I've learned a lot.
Yeah, you have learned a lot, but not enough.
So, ladies and gentlemen, we are going to get to that.
And then just so much more.
Tucker Carlson just dropped a hydrogen bomb on the deep state on clear handlers and assistants, accomplices with Crooks trying to kill Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania, and then the current FBI trying to cover it up.
I mean, there's so much more.
Stay with us back in 60 seconds.
All right.
Here's the big news today.
We're covering it all.
Massive gas, so much more today.
The Epstein thing has come to the peak so far of its importance.
And exactly what I knew was in there is in there.
All of it's already been out.
It's all complete innuendo and crap.
And so Trump is going after the Clintons and everybody saying, fine, open the whole damn thing up, even though it's going to destroy the economy.
And I'm not sure it is, but it's going to be really bad because the DOJ and the Comeys and all them that hit all the stuff they wanted to hide, never had anything on Trump.
They left a bunch of innuendo and recycled crap, all this old stuff that's not true, all disproven, or nothing burgers.
But they're still going to continue to bring this out.
So Trump's like, it's a diversion.
It's Russia Gate.
Let's move on.
And they're not going to let him do that.
Even though I can tell you, when they all came and kissed his ass when he first got back in, the deal was made.
So Trump made a deal with the devil, and now the devil's trying to shove a pitchfork up his butt, along with us and the rest of the country.
So not good.
And then they had Bongino and Patel go out there like they're in the headlights, like hostages, and say, oh, Epstein killed himself.
And oh, Crooks acted alone.
And oh, there's no accomplices and nobody else with Epstein.
And the Easter money is real.
And I was like, oh, my gosh, what was that?
Eight months ago.
I said, this is a disaster.
We went and had interventions.
We said, we understand.
This is what's going to happen.
This is how it's going to unfold.
You're being set up, Mr. President.
No matter how painful this is for all these big Democrats, you got to let them have it because A, it's immoral to make a deal with them.
And B, they're going to turn around and stab you in the back.
Well, I guess the president and Bongino and Patel aren't as sophisticated as I am.
Or as Roger Stone is.
But yeah, I love Naked Gun where the building's blowing up, missiles are exploding.
He's like, nothing to see here.
Everything's fine.
What the hell?
I mean, I'm not happy about this.
I'm laughing because I'm really freaked out.
I mean, we need Trump to succeed.
My God, he's night and day compared to the Democrats.
But you see, when you see the Epstein cover-up, do you go, oh, he's screwing the kids?
No, folks.
You see the cover-up of the accomplices with the guy trying to kill Trump and Mar-Lago.
You see the total cover-up of accomplices and helpers with Thomas Crooks in Pennsylvania.
You see the cover-up of Big Pharma.
You see the cover-up by the institutions of the pipe bomber reportedly being a Fed and the CIA and all of that because it's the same institutions and Trump hasn't gotten control of it.
And he can't even get them to go after the deep state who committed their crimes out in the open.
And so, yeah, we've got more traction than we got eight years ago because Trump got some decent Supreme Court people comparatively and did some other good stuff and kind of held off the great reset a little, but they used the COVID thing to derail it.
Our plan, 1776 worldwide plan.
But now, no, no, no, we're, it's night and day how much good we're getting done, but it's still not enough.
And I've been saying this: they're going to try to crash the economy, try to get riots going because that's the Podesta plan.
And they're going to bring this Epstein thing out.
They're going to try to create a MA civil war.
That created the cracks 10 months ago.
Then Gaza peaking and the Israel lobby obnoxiously saying censor everybody, take everybody off the air, shut up everybody from Tucker Carlson to Alex Jones and Nick Fuentez.
All of that has been done.
That's caused a big rift.
And it's now civil war MAGA.
And real pollsters that I respect who've been right 99% of the time, like Mark Mitchell has been hitting the panic button for a few months.
And now you see it everywhere.
And he predicted all this.
And people go, oh, he's just a panikin.
No, it's good when Trump's doing wrong and stepping in it to say, stop that.
We're his constituents.
We got him in there.
We're not a Democrat Party cult that's given talking points.
We are in control if we exercise our will.
So the Epstein thing has peaked.
The Crooks information, I mean, that would take hours to get into.
You already know it, but I mean, totally set up.
100% deep state operation.
Multi-agency.
You guys are total cutout.
When he didn't get Trump, they had the other shooter try from 600, 700 yards out.
We had the trajectory of the bullet, it hitting the bags, the people, everything.
Crooks is shooting this way, the guy, the other person's at this angle.
I mean, this is that all the top experts on 100% clear.
You can see the damn bullet.
And the Secret Service said they shot Crooks.
No, they didn't.
They just stood down.
That a cop shot him.
So it's all going down, ladies and gentlemen.
And they're and they've created a rapid reaction force to go after Tucker at the FBI.
People are really getting it.
Megan Kelly and others have said it's clear they're trying to hype things up to get Tucker killed.
Now they're attacking her.
We'll get to all that.
And look, Megan Kelly is an opportunist.
She's a lawyer, very smart woman.
She's basically on our side now.
And if we ever start losing, she'll jump back to the other side.
It's what she does.
But she's emblematic of the fact.
I mean, Andrew Cuomo tries to sound like us, Fredo.
They all do because we're the populace.
We're the winners.
We're winning worldwide.
But good.
Come on over, Megan.
Come over fully.
She says nice things about me now.
Good.
I'm not going to turn my back on you.
Certainly not going to have dessert with you.
I don't come into town.
I'll get to eat with you and have dessert.
I was just like, come on, lady.
Literally sound like a sex operative on the phone.
I said, I don't usually record people.
I went and found another company phone.
I said, let me call you right back.
I'm just like, bloop, bad.
But I mean, what people will do for their $50 million a year salaries or whatever it was.
So you see the NBC host, Total Devil, now that she's selling to the general public, and it's pretty accurate, good information.
But that's what it is to win.
When people that were previously mercenaries join us, it's a sign of our victory.
Don't be mad at her.
Just don't turn your back on her.
So you're a little too skinny for me, honey.
So getting serious, I apologize.
I was trying to say nice things and I was just mean.
It's what I do.
I'm just, I'm real.
I just can't help it.
So notice she never said she didn't say the dessert part because she doesn't, she doesn't know if I recorded that part or not.
Oh, the dessert.
What dessert is that?
Is that cherry pie?
What is it?
Key lime?
Coconut cream?
All right, sorry.
When I get under stress like I am right now, I start being goofy because this stuff is just top of my head just blew off this morning with the stuff ringing.
So you have the Epstein thing going super galactic Nova.
You've got the Crooks thing blowing up huge.
You got Kash Patel through his surrogates, literal his foundation FBI lawyers suing people that criticize Israel that have never even said anything bad about him or his girlfriend.
They literally admit that in lawsuit.
That's come to a huge head.
We then have Bloomberg's onion running around bragging again that they're going to be taking over Infowars, even though the receiver from the state won't tell us anything and says he's planning to have an auction.
I guess it'll be like auctioned last time where there isn't an auction.
It's just given to them.
So we got that sort of Damocles hanging over our head.
And we have the criminal investigation into all this being killed by Todd Blanche, the Democrat.
But that's the big takeaway is you have not as many, but still in key places, Democrat globalist operatives, and then people that have been co-opted through dirt on them or I don't know what that are totally going along with it energetically.
And let me tell you, behind the scenes, and Congress has released documents, you name it, Bongino is all over the place on the phone telling top journalists and folks, hey, don't you say that we had a White House meeting and told people we're not looking at any accomplices to Charlie Kirk's reported shooter or any foreign governments, even though that's on record that happened.
Stop talking about it.
And now they've created a rapid reaction force.
The FBI has created a new rapid response account on X to respond to Tucker's reporting about the information the FBI continues to hide about Trump's shooter Thomas Crooks, and it got a community note on its first day.
Has any other account been community noted its first day?
Well, the point is, is that they think, and this is what Kyle Serifa suitably said about 10 months ago.
Said they've got people in there, he knows who they are, who are the old PR people that are setting them up with bad PR.
I mean, listen, I have, if you think getting up there like they're in the headlines and saying Crooks acted alone, I promise you, I can't tell you, but I've seen the evidence, but everybody knows it was a cover-up.
It's public.
Epstein killed himself.
I promise you, don't ask questions.
All of this crap and the body language is the most disingenuous.
Like Sylvester caught with Tweety Bird in his mouth, and he's saying, Granny comes over with her umbrella, and Sylvester's like, I don't have Tweety Bird in my mouth.
And then she cranks his mouth open, and there's Tweety Bird inside the mouth with feathers hanging out.
I mean, seriously, we ought to make a, with AI, the famous, just feed it the image, maybe Grock, Bongino and Patel eight, nine months ago on Fox, but they're in the headlights look.
And let's just stick Tweety Birds in their mouth.
And, you know, maybe Granny with the umbrella about to beat them on the head with it because, and that's not a threat.
It's the cartoon.
I mean, it's just ridiculous.
It's like you tell your kids, stop getting cookies out of the cookie jar.
You can have some after you eat your spinach and your dinner.
And then you go out of the kitchen while you're cooking and you come in there and the five-year-old's up against the wall with their hands behind going, and you see crumbs on their cheek.
You go, I told you, don't eat the chocolate chip cookies.
I didn't, I didn't.
And you walk over and they got half a cookie in their hand.
They go, I don't want to have to whoop your ass, but you just lied.
And lying, I ain't going to put up with.
Let's go to the bedroom.
I'm going to whoop your ass.
Get up against the bed.
Take the belt off.
I'm not giving you five here.
Don't lie to me.
This is like catching Kash Patel and Bongino with their hand in the cookie jar.
And you're like, what are you doing in the cookies?
I'm not in the cookie jar.
Your damn hand's in the cookie jar.
You got a cookie in your mouth.
Except this ain't a cookie.
This is covering up for attempted murder of the president and a damn CIA Masad pedophile operation.
And then you're suing influencers that are critical of you.
A, that's un-American.
That's what the Democrats do.
And B, the base ain't going to put up with that, Honcho.
Ombre, Compadre.
I mean, if I wanted to destroy myself, I would do exactly what Kash Patel does.
And, you know, he did good interviews.
He sounded smart about the New World Order, the Federal Deserve.
He did a few good jobs for Trump.
I was like, oh, you know, great.
But I was like, he does look like a sneaky bug-eyed weasel, but I don't want to judge books by their cover because, you know, you got some of these stone-jawed FBI agents and federal prosecutors that are the most corrupt people ever, but they look like Clark Kent.
And they're the worst.
So I'm like, okay, well, maybe, you know, but that, I mean, look at this.
That is not a very trustworthy looking person right there.
And he's gotten more like that since he's gotten in there.
So a little bit of a power trip there, my friend.
So people aren't going to put up with this crap.
But let's get into the Epstein thing first.
I did this yesterday, but then I showed the documents, but I think Glenn Beck did a better succinct job of it.
And I've looked at each piece and everything the Democrats have released.
This is the worst stuff they've got.
They got it from the Epstein family, all his emails, all his stuff they wanted to hand over.
And it's Steve Bannon wanting to interview him and interviewing him once.
And Steve Bannon sending him political emails on his email list about cutting taxes and getting rid of Jerome Powell and all this stuff.
I get all that stuff from Steve Bannon.
Hey, get on this.
I don't even work for him.
That's just, hey, you ought to cover this.
This is an important action topic.
We got to, it's like, we got to get this confirmation done.
He's just spamming it out.
And that, that's the best thing they've got.
But it's like, oh, pad it in there.
Ooh, and all of it had already been out.
Oh, Trump.
Oh, they blacked out the name of the victim.
And it's Jafree because we already had the email unredacted years ago.
I told you that yesterday.
We'll show you an example.
And it's Epstein saying no.
No, Trump wasn't involved.
To Wolf, the writer, asking.
And all the victims said that.
And he kicked them out of the club over it.
But by selectively running this, they've been deceptive.
But Trump asked for it with his behavior since he got back in office.
And the decision was made by him.
Remember, I said this when the cover-up began eight, nine months ago, I said, Trump has given me the order for this cover-up.
And people got so pissed at me.
And we had stations even calling, man.
And I said, it's clear the wording, all of it.
And then it came out two days later.
It was indeed Trump.
And then he starts putting out true social saying, yep, I'm the one.
This is Bull.
I told him focus on the border and crime and arresting Chinese spies.
This is a distraction.
I got a lot of apologies over that.
I appreciate it.
We got a couple of radio stations saying, hey, man, we're pro-Trump and we're going to cut your ass off.
And I had emails sent back.
I said, I'm sorry.
I respect you as a station, but I'm not going to stop.
This is plus, I already had information.
I'm going to leave it at that.
But Roger Stone's on later.
He's one of the sources.
And he said I could talk about this a few months ago, but reluctantly.
And I'll press him on it today.
But he told me when Trump was president-elect, he said, you're not going to get the Epstein stuff.
It's CIA Massad.
You know that because it's going to be covered up.
Plus, they've cherry-picked and they've had the file.
It's full of a bunch of recycled crap.
And I talked to FBI sources.
They said, yeah, that's what it is.
And so Trump heard that.
He was like, okay, yeah, no, no, we're done.
There's none of the real meat and potatoes in there.
But we know the people.
We know who the women say.
And it ain't Donald Trump.
It's 90, like 95% Democrats, bank heads, university heads, politicians, you name it.
And now Trump's calling for all of it and wants the DOJ to go after him.
The problem is they won't because they're part of the same system.
But he should have done this in the last six, seven, eight months because it was the right thing to do.
And your constituents would love you and back you.
Instead, you did the political thing, the Machiavelli thing.
And now you're getting the repercussions of it.
I mean, if you were going to cover it up, like I said at the time, and some people interpreted this and look, he's telling me I'm going to cover up.
No, I said he should have done it, but I wargame stuff.
I said, if I said, if you're going to cover it up, because I know you're not involved, shut up.
Shut up.
Oh, my constituents.
If you want to look at Epstein, you're an idiot Democrat, Mark, and you've been conned by them, and you're not MAGA.
Just like Mark Levin and all of them, if you don't want to have nuclear war, you don't want to have us tell you what to do.
You're anti-Semitic and you're not MAGA.
None of you guys were for Trump.
I was one of the first people to endorse him.
I don't need to hear that from you.
Pro-shot, pro-open border, pro-world government, pro-censorship.
You're not Americans.
You're absolute 100% high-level Mossad operatives.
My God.
I bet Levin's a colonel in the Israeli military.
I mean, I just cannot take it anymore.
And I don't hate you because you're Jewish.
I don't hate you because you're Mossad.
I hate you because you're trying to bully us and get in our face and acting like a bunch of assholes and then energizing the Nazis.
See, because I'm actually thinking multi-level, dumbass, but they're not actually that dumb.
They think they're creating a big crisis and they'll come out on top after some synagogues get hit soon, which I said eight months ago on Tucker is coming.
And I told people that are doing nothing but go after Israel constantly.
I go, you think you're getting all this attention and all this stuff?
What happens when the Democrats use this to blow up MA and they know how much power you got?
They're going to throw you in prison.
I've told Fuentes this.
I said, this is, I said, I know you're tough.
He's not scared.
I said, you should be.
You should be understanding.
Not just, don't be scared to do the right thing if you get killed, but this will lead to a confregation, think second, third, fourth order, that is going to be so destructive.
And it doesn't mean you don't expose Israel and America first.
It's just saying, understand all these other ingredients have been added for the second, third, fourth order events that are coming and it spells out destruction.
And that's exactly what Tucker said last night.
So what are you going to do when somebody truck bombs a Jewish center?
What are you going to do when somebody goes to a synagogue and shoots 30 people?
Because I can see the last ingredient to this.
You'd have to be an idiot not to.
And then where are we?
Now, this has gotten so out of hand and people have turned on Israel so much.
I'm going to warn Netanyahu and I'm going to warn these Mossad agents right now.
And, you know, I'm giving you my real advice.
And I'm known at the FBI, the CIA, everywhere have tried to hire me for my ability to understand this stuff as a top analyst.
I mean, seriously.
But you don't have to be that smart to know this.
You're not, if you actually trigger this, you're not going to get out of it.
You think because you got nuclear weapons, this is going to end up okay?
You're going to get Israel destroyed and probably the rest of the world with us.
So with us, with humanity.
So you've got to stop, ladies and gentlemen.
All of us.
All of us have to come together and realize the bigger picture of these evil globalist forces trying to manipulate this conflagration.
It's got to stop.
I want prosperity.
I want justice.
I want Western civilization.
I want Christianity.
I want freedom.
I want to stop the expansion of cancerous Islam.
And I want to kick the Israeli firsters out of our government.
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Now, I just did 30 minutes of live broadcast and tied in all these big developments and stories together for big picture.
Now I'm going to drill in the actual documents and statements and things.
And then joining us to cover the waterfront, investigative journalist Max Blumenthal.
It's going to be very powerful.
Then Roger Stone on the Epstein hysteria due to the cover-ups and do it being a bellwether, a symbol of whether or not the government can be trusted or not.
And Trump's absolutely horrible handling of it and where this fiasco is going.
I told people 10 months ago when they started unrambling, I said, this is going to be a big deal.
And then when Elon got run out of there, I said, this is just as big.
These are the big cracks.
And then now the Israel stuff, and you add all that together.
I mean, Elon at Doge was killing it.
And I mean, killing the deep state by cutting their funding out.
Now that's slowed down almost to a standstill compared to where it was.
And this is a swap fighting back.
Nobody said this would be easy.
And Trump's got a big job.
You know, he does such a great job in so many places.
It's just that we cannot sit here when Trump's making major mistakes, being given bad advice, and suck our thumbs and go along with it.
All right.
So Glenn Beck did a great job yesterday.
And all the new stuff they released today, same crap.
There's nothing there.
People talking about votes in the House, people talking about the Federal Reserve.
Bannon spamming news to people.
I got my phone right here with him sending me stuff yesterday.
So that's what I do too.
I sent him stuff.
So send him stuff back then.
So that's your, and it was all old.
It was all known.
This stuff was already there.
So my job is not defending Bannon.
I'd already looked into it and said there's nothing there.
And again, oh, the Democrats, oh, the name's blacked out.
This probably isn't Joofree.
It's another woman.
But that woman says Trump didn't do anything to her.
No, it's you free.
And all the others.
But the Democrats blacked it out on purpose so they could act like it was something else.
And then Crockett gets up on CNN and goes, you notice the Republicans blacked out the names.
So I don't think it's Jaffree.
And even the CNN host goes, no.
It's the Democrats blacked it out.
They released it.
And Johnson's like, no, go ahead, vote, release it all.
Now the Democrats are like, yeah, don't release it all.
Just cherry pick.
Get it out of head.
Oh, Trump kicking him out of Mar-a-Lago.
Oh, Bannon, coming and meeting with him once for a TV interview that we've seen clips of.
See, now you get what they're doing.
And I knew this beforehand.
So why did Trump say kill the investigations?
Because all the billionaires came to him and the rich Democrats and the heads of universities and hedge funds and said, listen, this is old and a lot of it's just innuendo.
And we want to work with you.
Can we just?
And then do you think that the Democrat Party would ever abide by a deal they made with you?
I mean, you always tell the snake story of the frozen snake, and the lady picks it up and warms it up and bites her.
She says, why'd you do that?
Well, I'm a snake.
Well, you know, the story of the frog and the scorpion, right?
There's a river.
The scorpion comes over.
The frog says, you carry me across.
The frog goes, no, you're a scorpion.
You'll kill me.
He goes, I promise I won't.
Okay, get on my back.
Swims across, dumps off the scorpion.
The scorpion goes, boom.
And the frog's laying there dying in incredible pain.
He goes, why'd you do that?
He goes, because I'm a scorpion.
And I've been around these scum, you know, their billionaires try to buy me off, all that stuff.
And I said, no, they were off-record meetings, so I didn't expose it because it wasn't criminal.
And then in the after the before the show trials and the mediations in Connecticut, and you're up there with the judge, you know, in the mediation and the head of the law firm and my lawyer, the guy shows up 20 minutes late, and I've gone all the way there to meet with him.
And he just says, we're the mafia, you know, the Godfather, and we run everything and you will be destroyed.
And that's the way it is.
Or I'm going to go talk to your lawyer outside of this room for a little while.
He'll tell you how things work.
The judge was like, that's weird.
Never see anything like that.
He's retired.
We're very respected judge.
I mean, I've flown all the way up there from the, I'm in like a 15-minute meeting.
Most of that was me, you know, talking smack back saying, you'll be defeated.
And he goes and tells Norm, I've told the story before.
We're driving to the car afterwards.
And I go, Norm goes, well, they do would like to meet with you actually in a few weeks and have like a conference with you, you know, about if you change your rhetoric on the Second Amendment and things.
And I said, let me guess.
And there's more.
And he said, yeah, yeah, they'd won a few days with you.
There's more.
And I went, so I can become their minion.
And I was like, Norm, you understand, I was already offered a bunch of money by their bosses before this will start a few years ago.
I'm willing to die for this.
He goes, no, I figured you'd say that.
And I said, well, give them my answer.
No, fuck no to quote Tony Montana.
And ask Norm.
And they go, oh, that's a private mediation.
You're not supposed to release it.
Well, that kind of crap's criminal saying we're the mafia and that stuff.
So I don't care.
Plus, later, they called Norm and my other lawyers on the phone and said all the same crap to him over the phone, not in the mediation.
Then they did it again in Fort Worth after the show trials in a federal courthouse with a federal judge ordered by the federal court two days long.
And I walked out the first afternoon.
And they had the head FBI guy that sued me and ran it all.
He was there running it.
And they'd have these breakaway rooms.
And they came in with the same pitch in front of my Texas lawyers.
They couldn't believe it.
And I said, this isn't going to happen.
They don't want money.
And they said, well, let's go up from $75 million offer to $90 million.
I go, I've never made that much money in my life.
I'm not going to do that.
He goes, and they said, well, let's just see.
And I said, okay, you go ahead and you watch.
Even because they said, no, to 75, we want 90.
And they went and offered them 90 million just because I knew.
And they said, actually, there's no amount.
While they run around in bitch and claim that they're owed all this money and they want to shut InfoWars down for money when this equipment isn't worth half a million dollars now.
On average, it's like seven, eight years old.
Obsolete.
There's 10-year-old cameras in that studio in there, 12-year-old cameras in the studio, six-year-old cameras in here.
These cameras were like $3,000 or $4,000 new.
This set, $400,000, all wired and hooked in.
Obsolete now.
Might get $100,000 for this.
Back when these bought these screens, they cost three times more a screen.
Everybody knows that.
My point is, it's just all crap, all bull, all lies.
So I know how this works.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, Scorpion, get them.
Oh, you're the mafia.
I didn't know that.
Tell me, oh, God, I'm scared now because these people really think like threatening me scares me.
You don't know.
I didn't already know this.
It's why I'm coming after you.
I'm a warrior.
I come from good people that built this country.
You're not dealing with all the trash and scum you come from.
You're dealing with a Texan, bitch.
And there's still some of us left.
And we crush snakes under our heels.
Got it?
You got the tiger by the tail.
You've got the problem.
I am the detonator of the revolution you see around you and you know it.
And my work has just begun.
So feel your hand.
You want a war?
You got a war.
You've been attacking me and been enjoying yourself in your arrogant perks that you're part of the power structure and invincible.
You are scum.
You are losers.
You are retarded gremlins that fed on this country when she was asleep.
Well, she ain't asleep now, bitch.
So let me tell you about the real mafia of populism.
Let me tell you about real power that comes from real people with real guts and real bones and real morals.
If you think hurting and attacking people like me and the American people that are now awake will make us go away, please continue and you will continue to find out.
unidentified
Ha ha ha!
alex jones
And like a boa constrictor, we're wrapped around them and they got us, we got them.
unidentified
And we're just squeezing and squeezing.
alex jones
And we get stronger and you get weaker.
So you just believe your little MSNBC bubble?
You just stay in your little bubble.
You just wear your little virtual reality goggles and just live in your little fantasy land all you want.
But while you're doing that, we are moving.
And we've just begun to move.
And if you think you're in trouble now, you haven't even begun to run in to the next wave that gets here in about a year.
You think you can discredit, remove Trump, and stop us?
That's hilarious.
You think you can take our purity and get us to attack Trump and get him out of the way for you?
That's a symbol of how good we are and how strong we are.
unidentified
Now we're not going away.
alex jones
You see our purity as weakness.
No, it's our strength.
All right, let's start getting the clips.
So here's Glenn Beck.
Did a great job of the documents.
Just want you to go through each one of the emails.
It's the same story.
All misrepresentation, all crap.
This is what the Democrats got.
And now they don't want the full stuff of the Epstein release.
Oh, you wanted to say release it, say you had it.
Johnson say release it.
And then all the stuff you're releasing is the most pathetic recycled nothing.
Here's Glenn Beck.
glenn beck
Why are they trying to cover up that Donald Trump had sex with children?
unidentified
I mean, it's as clear as day in the email.
glenn beck
Let me read what Jeffrey Epstein wrote.
I want you to realize that the dog who hasn't barked is Trump.
Victim, redacted, spent hours at my house with him.
He has never once been mentioned.
New information just released.
Or is it?
Because in 2011, that was released and everybody knew it.
It's been out floating around.
Here's the change.
I want you to realize the dog who hasn't barked is Trump.
Virginia spent hours at my house with him.
Why would you redact a name that is already out in the public square?
Well, because it makes it all suddenly new and shiny.
You see victim and you're like, oh, there's a victim that he was, who was the victim?
But when you know it's Virginia, you know this has already gone to court.
She already testified about this.
And I'm quoting, this is from the testimony.
He didn't partake in any of this, any sex with any of it.
It's true.
This is not new news.
If you remember when the shutdown first started, what did the Democrats say the reason why they did the shutdown?
Why Mike Johnson and everybody else wouldn't negotiate?
Because the heat was on to release the Epstein files and they didn't want to have to do that.
So they shut the government down.
So the government is open.
And what does Mike Johnson do yesterday?
He said the House is going to vote on a bill to release all of the files related to Jeffrey Epstein next week.
Good, Mike.
Release all of it.
If anybody thinks that you're ever going to get the truth on this in the first place, it's madness.
It was in the hands of the Democrats for the longest time.
You don't think it was all picked through?
And if there was anything about Donald Trump, you don't think that would have come up between 2020 and 2024?
There's nothing in there about Donald Trump.
alex jones
And Bongino and Patel and all them did a horrible job and contradicted Bondi.
And I'm not sure who's worse, but believe me, I mean, I need the Justice Department to do a good job.
I want them to do a good job.
I am horrified by all this.
No, it's just like Roger told me when Trump was re-elected.
He said, no, CIA wants it covered up.
He goes, I can't give you the details, but it's nothing that's coming out.
CIA, massage.
He's right.
And so Trump did this.
And it's terrible.
But there you go.
But the Democrats, the ones screwing the girls and all the rest of it.
It's them.
They're all in there.
And now Trump's like, okay, fine then.
Release it.
And the Democrats are like, oh, no, God, no, don't release the full thing.
Just let us release some cherry-pick stuff here.
Oh, my goodness.
I called it.
It wasn't hard to call it.
And I was the bad guy in MAGA.
I was undermining Trump.
Oh, I was, oh, no, we need to shut up about Epstein.
Well, the majority of MAGA has morals, unlike some of you that I noticed people that always say don't criticize Trump had just jumped on the bandwagon.
You're political babies.
You don't know what you're talking about.
And obviously, this is a hot button issue.
I've been exposing it since day one, one of the first.
It could bring down the whole globalist system, and it's got to be done.
And so we're not like you.
We're not like Democrats that'll just cover up evil because it's, quote, our party.
I'm not a Republican.
I'm a populist Christian patriot, and I wanted to reform the Republican parties of the Tea Party and Ron Paul.
We built that beachhead, and we've done it to a great extent.
It's way better than Democrats.
Okay.
But that's all it is is a vehicle to save the country and the world.
Okay.
And if it ain't doing that or people aren't doing that, we'll take them to the woodshed.
That's what we do.
We're in charge, the American people.
Folks always ask, who funds you?
Who are your bosses?
When I get sued, they always ask.
They always go to the emails.
Where's the orders?
Where's the directives?
Where's the plan?
Well, the crew sees it.
I come in here hours before all these articles, videos.
I come on the air.
It's talk radio on TV.
And the left just can't believe it.
That's one of the reasons that they defaulted me in these fake suits.
They said, he won't give us the marketing plan.
He won't give us the news plan.
He won't give us the talking points, the directives, because they don't exist when they depose my dad over and over again.
Seeing it at the headline, there is a plan.
It's in Alex's head.
And only in the end did they figure it out.
I mean, I've been in these meetings at the time.
We're just kind of in the world's lawyers are trying to buy me off.
They got me there under another pretense.
And they're like, are you working with the GS79Q4 group?
Or is it the blue, blue, and the Q didn't go?
unidentified
Q.
alex jones
He said, Q, David Khan's super top secret stuff Q on the OSS from a Fort World War II.
That's why they call James Bond's technician Q. Dumbos.
The point is, is that they're like, are you a GX79 or the Q group?
Somebody's here.
And I'm like, I don't know what that is.
I know it's some classified grouping.
No, I'm Alex Jones.
Sure.
So we checked.
You're not with the Russians.
You're not with the, are you with the, and they're saying terms that are like super classified.
I don't even know.
And I'm just like, no, but I've studied all this and I don't like what you guys are doing and I'm not for sale.
Because they all work for somebody.
They all take orders.
I'm going to say it again.
You know who gives the orders in my life?
You know who gives the orders on the show?
You know where it comes from?
Right here.
This guy's in charge.
And you can be in charge of your own life, too, and have your own views and your own will that you impose on the world.
But that is what spooked them out, because I had other intelligence agency visits and things, too, including foreign ones I mentioned.
Because they went and got the database of my family and some of the stuff they've been involved in, but they never told me anything other than the government's corrupt and evil and you can't trust them.
So I didn't grope around all political science books and military books and engineering and rapid.
I was never told any of this stuff.
I was just told, oh, the world works.
So I was in the right soil with the right mind and the right background to be a futurist analyst expert of experts, the best.
And I don't say that as a power trip.
The enemy already knows I'm the best.
Steve Bannon says I'm the best.
And I don't know.
He's super smart.
But there's a few of us, okay?
But I am the best.
I'm as good as it gets, boys and girls.
And that's why they want me shut up.
Because if you start actually understanding how all this works and get multifaceted understanding and don't just think one-dimensionally, they can't control you.
And you're smart enough that you can learn what I know and more.
So you don't know who's going to save us.
Nobody's coming to save us.
You got to look in the mirror.
Maybe you're a truck driver and you see something, get footage of it.
Or, you know, it's little things.
You're not going to save the world one big swoop.
No, it's lots of little good deeds.
And being an inspiration to others that changes the world.
We got Max Blumenthal coming on with huge news.
We'll hit all the different angles to tie together on this.
And we got Megan Kelly and Tucker saying to the Israel lobby, cool your heels and knock it off.
You're going to get people killed.
This is incendiary.
You're crazy.
You need to stop.
Then there's all this other news, but bottom line, they're calling it the dark days of the dawn.
The globalists are making their move on Trump, and they know that Trump supporters are moral and care.
So they can then misrepresent a bunch of stuff and a few missteps of Trump, blow all those things up really huge and get us all to commit political suicide.
No, we don't abandon Trump.
We rush in and influence Trump and influence the information and influence the lawmakers and stay maximum engaged.
We don't take our balls and go home.
We're not black-pilled.
We're not white-pilled.
We're action-pilled.
We're victory-pilled.
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That's weird.
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I'm not bitching.
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You know, today is the one-year anniversary of the fake auction they had last year.
The judge ordered an auction.
We had groups to buy it that would keep us on air.
We later sued them.
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But tell the judge of the world it was an auction.
Remember all that?
That auction was today, a year ago.
How embarrassing for them.
And a lot more is obviously come out.
A lot more is.
unidentified
The satirical website, a newspaper, The Onion has taken over the website, InfoWars, of Alex Jones, the very platform that Jones used to spread horrific conspiracy theories, including those really awful false claims about the Sandy Hook shooting.
Jones responded on social media today saying this.
alex jones
I don't know what's going to happen.
I'm going to be here until they come in here and turn the lights off.
unidentified
Lights off, buddy.
The website's shut down.
This is what happens when you search for the site.
Quote, unavailable until further notice.
So, Ben, what is your plan for the site?
ben collins
We're going to take it and take the universe that Alex created and just pave it over.
We're going to create a new world where hopefully in a couple of years, if you think of Infowars, you'll either think of this day where we pulled off this very ridiculous joke where we're able to purchase InfoWars as is.
alex jones
And there is an investigation of that going on.
I'll just stop there.
They already know.
They've been visiting, but they don't care.
They just go forward.
And I said, you cancel the auction.
This isn't a real auction.
I'm going to go challenge it.
And the judge was a corrupt and blocked them.
So just remember what we've all been through, all the other stuff.
margot in florida
What would you control?
unidentified
I mean, I really would like to control Infowars.
margot in florida
No, that's a good answer.
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There is a white supremacy problem.
And it's weird, old, elitist white people that are literally manipulating everybody, killing each other so they can stay in power.
And it pisses me off when I sit there pissed off watching this, watching these wild-eyed, crazy people that want to kill me because what color I am, I know who brainwashed them.
I know who wound them up.
I know who sent them.
I don't blame the dumbasses.
No, I blame Carbo and John Podesta and the Clintons and Obama and the rest of them.
That's who I blame.
I know they got whistleblowers out the door at the DOJ.
The problem is they don't have prosecutors with testicles to do the job.
Can you feel the future?
Can you feel the danger?
Can you feel the destruction?
I certainly do.
But I don't think you dumbasses that serve evil do.
See, you're in a new ballgame.
It's a new era.
And you know what Thomas Jefferson said?
The blood of Patriots and tyrants waters the Street of Liberty.
And I don't want that.
And there's a good chance we can avoid a lot of that, but not according to the left.
They are just whole hog, let's get it on.
And so, you know, my view.
I think it's your view.
Not out starting fights, not trying to get in trouble.
But if people are looking for trouble, they came to the right place.
If you want a war, you got one.
If you have some need to be stomped into the ground, well, you came to the right place with the American people because America was asleep and you thought we were intimidated while you pissed on our faces and did all this to us.
No, people were asleep.
The spell is lifted.
It's over.
You need to learn to look at a weather vein and see which way the wind blows.
It's blowing against you.
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The only question is, are you smart enough to understand that?
Surrender is your only option.
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Give up now.
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Ladies and gentlemen, as I predicted, and it wasn't hard to do, MAGA Trumpland is now in a three-front, really forefront civil war.
And when I predicted his handling of Epstein so disastrous 10 months ago, people got pissed at me.
Like I was a party pooper.
And then when you saw all this bizarre Israel first stuff and then added Kash Patel running around, you know, through his proxy suing everybody for absolutely nothing, like Elijah Schaefer.
And then you've got Trump saying, yeah, no, there's no talent in America.
They're going to use that.
And the rest of it, it's a disaster because, I mean, the Democrats, for all the Republican problems, are absolutely a rotten fish from the head down.
I mean, they are just bonker town dangerous.
And so we need Trump to succeed.
But that said, Trump's base is not like on average that serve all Democrats.
They're more sophisticated and they're based on moral guidestones that they expect.
So Trump went down like six, seven points.
We had the pollsters on.
They're very accurate, like Mark Mitchell.
When he said, if you want Epstein out, you believe that.
You know, you're not MAGA.
You're not in our movement.
Well, that's like 95% of your base.
I mean, that's like you've been happily married 10 years and one day you just come home and beat the shit out of your wife and you wonder why she's leaving you.
I mean, that was, I mean, this is like, I mean, maybe you can knock her upside the head a few times.
She forgives you the first time you go to counseling, but I'm like, don't beat us up anymore or, you know, we're going to have to get in the station wagon with the kids and leave.
I mean, that's my analogy.
And then he's got Patel suing people with lawfare and using lawfare liberal terms, like microaggressions.
And, well, you didn't say she's a massage agent, but you did criticize Israel before.
I mean, this is disgusting.
And then we've got Todd Blanch.
It's not enough he killed a criminal investigation, the only ones he knows about into the Democrats, the DOJ suing me and creating the big lie that I did all this stuff to people to raise money for themselves.
He's like, Jones is fringe and doesn't deserve help.
And then he's keeping people in jail that are heroes that expose election fraud in Colorado.
And Patel's up there during the headlights saying, no, Crooks acted alone.
And now they've been caught.
And I don't just have this from sources.
I have it from our reporters.
It's about to break.
Brianna Morello.
He did have social media.
He did have metadata.
And it all got scrubbed and they got caught lying about it.
So now you have Kash Patel and them joining in on the cover-up that went under the Democrats.
And everybody knows what we saw.
And that's a whole nother thing.
We could do 10 hours on that.
But I had that Delta Force, Green Berets, Navy SEALs.
I'm a decent shooter, not a ballistics guy, but Crooks gets off his shots.
Somebody else, when he doesn't get the shot, shoots from way off in the woods or by the water tower.
You see it hitting the bags and hitting people, bigger, higher caliber.
And they're like, nope, nothing going on here.
And his parents are both behavioral psychologists and his house is like a clean room.
And then, I mean, he goes on and on.
And then you got the pipe bomber stuff coming out.
And now they had a rapid reaction force trying to shut that down.
Now the FBS created a rapid response team to go to Tucker.
And you've got all the neocons, probably massage agents, quite frankly, making open threats, kill the fox in the hen house, neutralize it.
And even Megan Kelly figured this out.
And she's like, what are you going to do when somebody busts a cap in Tucker?
This is dangerous, folks.
So that's a lot.
I don't know where he wants to go first because I want him on about the Elijah Schaefer suit because I saw Elijah reading off of it.
And I called him and I said, Elijah, have you posted the suit?
I go, I believe you.
Because he did similar stuff to me.
This is even crazier.
He goes, oh, yeah, maybe I should post it.
I'm like, yeah, you might want to post that lawsuit.
So he gave it to us.
It's worse than he said.
I mean, this is, they go, well, it's true.
He didn't ever say she's a massage agent, but he did criticize the Gaza War.
So he deserves to be shut down.
I mean, what?
And then it's his PR firm, his charity, his law firm, FBI lawyers.
People are like, is it a proxy?
It does a bear shit in the woods.
So I'm going to shut up now.
We only have like 30 minutes, 35 minutes.
Max Blumenthal, great journalist, really smart guy, thegrayzone.com.
He broke the Elijah Schaefer stuff.
And he's, again, joins us right now.
Really appreciate him coming on with us.
I'm going to try to shut up because I've kind of already thrown out my wad there.
But this is just, this is wild.
Where do you want to start?
Do you agree we're going into MAGA Civil War?
You want to start with the Elijah Schaefer suit?
You want to start with the Epstein stuff?
Because it's all interconnected.
Where do you want to go?
max blumenthal
I don't even know if we can call this a civil war.
It's like the base against the donor class and all the phonies that the donor class has just put out there.
It's the 99% of MAGA against the 1%.
alex jones
That's a literal class war.
The real populist movement that took over part of the Republican Party is now at war with the Republican establishment that's Uniparty holding on by its fingernails.
max blumenthal
And something I do want to talk about at some point, but I think we should cover everything.
alex jones
No, you got the floor.
I'm going to shut it right down.
max blumenthal
But Donald Trump is being pushed by Marco Rubio, one of the co-authors of TPS, to attack Venezuela.
He's about to destabilize South America and cause another massive migration wave and a civil war in South America.
They're lying about Venezuela being a narco-cartel government.
The cocaine and fentanyl is not coming from there.
It's coming from the West Coast, from countries that are allied with the U.S.
And they are going to bring real cartels there from Colombia, flooding Venezuela.
It's going to be a disaster.
They're lying to you about that.
They just, they've lied again and again and again.
And I think people are starting to wake up to being sold out on all of these promises.
And Trump saying he was going to fight the deep state.
Kash Patel said he was going to fight the deep state.
He started a foundation to take on the deep state with legal action.
And now he is using the chair of that foundation to sue Elijah Schaefer and other America first personalities, including a former FBI agent, Kyle Serafin, who is a conservative FBI agent, someone who wasn't part of the so-called liberal deep state.
Because Kyle Serafin, what did he do?
He embarrassed Kash Patel by exposing that he was taking the FBI's jet on, you know, our dime as U.S. taxpayers to go on a date night with his girlfriend, Alexis Wilkins, to see her sing the national anthem at a pro wrestling event in Pennsylvania.
I think he was flying out from Las Vegas.
alex jones
And he basically ran for FBI Director years ago against Ray saying he used the private jet.
And then he uses it way more than he did.
max blumenthal
Yep.
I mean, way more.
And so, first of all, I don't know why Kash Patel, it would be much more convenient to move in with his girlfriend, but he's still living with his male roommate in Las Vegas.
And he's now filing a $5 million lawsuit against Kyle Serafin as well.
And he's suing someone named Sam Parker, who, as far as I know, I mean, I haven't even heard from him.
So he probably can't even afford legal counsel.
alex jones
Why go after because Seraphin said a little bit, but I don't think it's defamatory.
He just covered what was being said.
Maybe she's honeypot.
You're allowed to say that.
He'd say maybe she's a Martian.
Maybe the moon's made of cheese.
But now going after Elijah Schaefer, I mean, they actually say he didn't say anything.
This is crazy.
max blumenthal
Right, right.
He posted a photo of a real photo of Kash Patel and his girlfriend quote tweeting a quote about Mossad honeypots in Iran.
And it was obviously tongue-in-cheek.
It was obviously humorous to me because a lot of people in the MAGA base, from my point of view, are wondering what the hell happened to Kash Patel.
He was promising radical disclosure on Epstein on the JFK files.
And now he's claiming he sounds like Epstein's lawyer when he's testifying before Congress, claiming Epstein trafficked women to no one.
He actually said no one.
What he meant was no one but himself, but this sounds like something Alan Dershowitz would have said.
alex jones
And then his partner in crime, Epstein, is in prison for trafficking and abuse, but it doesn't exist.
max blumenthal
Right.
And so he signed the joint memo with Pam Bondi in July to basically suppress the Epstein files.
Trump is bringing Lauren Boebert into the situation room, I think with Patel and Bondi, to intimidate her against signing onto the petition to release the Epstein files.
Everybody in Congress knows, all the GOP members of Congress know it's the kiss of death to go against this petition.
But Donald Trump is obviously afraid of something.
He's afraid of being exposed further.
And Kash Patel's role is not only covering him, but he's using his own foundation, his own personal lawyer hiding behind his girlfriend as proxy to sue the voices of America First, who helped make Donald Trump's comeback possible, including Elijah Schaefer, who I think has been your co-host and been a guest on your show.
They're attacking you by proxy.
alex jones
Well, I mean, I have a lot to cover with you, but smart guy, let me ask you this.
If I wanted to destroy myself, I would do the things Trump, Patel, and Bongino have been doing.
I mean, it's perfectly done to make themselves look like villains and create megastries and effects.
What the hell is going on here?
max blumenthal
Yeah.
I mean, this all, it started, I think, in July where Trump lost his mystique, but Epstein's a symbol of something much bigger that I saw coming when Donald Trump was running for office.
And Miriam Adelson, the Israeli warlord, the Israeli Likudnik warlord, who is an American citizen, but couldn't really tell you, probably doesn't know the rules of NFL football, couldn't really tell you where a good steakhouse is in Denver.
She's basically an Israeli who's here to manipulate the U.S. government and is the heir to the fortune of casino Baron Sheldon Adelson.
And she and Sheldon have kicked in $230 million into Trump's campaigns, and she was one of the top funders of Donald Trump.
And so I knew that his brand of America First was going to be turned into Israel First as soon as he became president.
And then when he fails to release the Epstein files, people start asking questions about, for example, I don't know, Mossad honeypots.
What was Jeffrey Epstein?
He was clearly working with the Mossad.
His closest friend was former Israeli prime minister.
alex jones
He took over the family business from known Mossad asset, Maxwell's dad.
It's ridiculously obvious.
max blumenthal
Right, right.
I mean, Robert Maxwell ended his life.
I mean, his final chapter was really in Israel, and he was basically given a state funeral in Israel.
And Jeffrey Epstein, he's a bipartisan figure.
You can see from these emails.
He's like the epitome of deep state.
You know, he's hanging out with Larry Summers one day.
He's hanging out with Donald Trump the next day.
Donald Trump used to covert with Bill Clinton and hang out with Playboy bunnies with Jeffrey Epstein.
So that was all well known, but now it's pretty obvious Donald Trump doesn't want it coming out.
And now we see Donald Trump as a creature of this duopoly who's taking money from basically a foreign billionaire in order to enact measures on behalf of an apartheid state that just committed genocide right before our eyes that is undergoing right now in Israel.
They're having a huge scandal because soldiers have been caught on video raping Palestinian prisoners with batons in Israeli torture dungeons.
And the Israeli army lawyer who sought to expose it attempted to commit suicide and now she's being prosecuted.
And this is the country and Donald Trump.
alex jones
And the Arm Knesset members on TV saying they deserve it.
We should make this an official law to rape people.
max blumenthal
Yes.
And that they just passed a law on the Knesset to execute these captives.
It's that kind of savagery that makes people question why we have to, in the words of Kash Patel, why in December 2024 in an FBI interview, America must prioritize Israel.
That's what Kash Patel said.
Why does America have to prioritize Israel?
I mean, some people watching this might have some pro-Israel opinions or might not be sympathetic to Palestinians, but why do we have to constantly prioritize that country?
alex jones
I'm not some Islamic lover.
I don't want to blow up Israel, but the classic stereotypes and all this of what people said about Israel is definitely happening.
Netanyahu is openly trying to take over the Republican Party from the beginning.
He sees weakness in the Democrats.
And then you've got their spokesman openly making threats, getting very vicious, trying to bully America, which is the perfect storm to make people completely turn against Israel.
So I think it's important to expose bad things Israel does.
My issue is it's become the giant zeitgeist, and it's only getting worse.
And Israel is completely losing the propaganda battle.
And so what do you think the thinking is there?
Just arrogance or what?
What the hell's happening, Max Blimenthal?
max blumenthal
I mean, what we see, they've clearly gone too far, and they've had control over the Republican Party lockstock and barrel since there were these battles in the 1980s and early 90s in which Pat Buchanan and figures below him like Joseph Sobron at the National Review were basically kicked out of the movement.
And the party started taking in tons of pro-Israel money.
And then they created this kind of Christian Zionist movement, which was fueled by pro-Israel money that Nixon warned of, and Buchanan was just his protege.
alex jones
So Buchanan was just a hangover of Nixon, which part of the reason they removed him was because he was trying to stop the Israel lobby takeover as well.
max blumenthal
So now we see the same thing playing out then, but on a much greater level at the Heritage Foundation, which is like the outsource brain of the Republican Party.
It's really where the conservative movement's ideas get turned into policy.
And their president, Kevin Roberts, said, we should just be able to have a debate over Israel, over U.S. policy towards Israel as Americans.
And he was sort of referring to Tucker Carlson being able to host whoever he wants on his show.
And that caused the biggest freak out.
And a donor threatened to pull half a million dollars from the Heritage Foundation.
Kevin Roberts was treated to two hours of ritual humiliation from members of his own.
alex jones
It was a liberal malice struggle session.
max blumenthal
Yes, yes.
It really looked like that.
Other members of his staff who agreed with him, there should be a debate on this, were asked to go to a Shabbat dinner that Friday.
And obviously, if they didn't show up, they were going to be suspect.
It's the same thing that was happening in TPUSA in the weeks before Charlie Kirk's death, where he was losing donors like the aptly named Robert Shillman, who pulled $2 million out because Charlie Kirk said, I want to focus on America and not this other country.
And Kevin Roberts is about to, he may lose his job and he had to retract everything.
And now the top target is Tucker and Megan Kelly.
The Babylon Bee, which is supposed to be sort of the America-first conservative onion, but really is an Israel-first publication run by Seth Dylan, who's heavily involved with all these Israel lobbyists, just put out a joke claiming Megan Kelly just got rid of her old pager, referring to Israel's pager terrorist attack in Lebanon.
So basically, a death threat to Megan Kelly.
alex jones
And all she said in the video we have, we'll play when we come back.
max blumenthal
Yeah.
alex jones
Is look, Levin, you guys are turning the heat up.
If somebody kills Tucker, you're in big problems.
Let's turn the heat down.
She's not anti-Israel.
And so I forgot the Charlie ingredient.
So you have the Epstein cover-up, you have the Iran thing and Israel trying to totally exert open power, bullying of any conservatives or populists like myself, saying I work for Qatar and all this ridiculous crap.
Never even talked to him, got dollar one.
All of that pisses people off.
Then Charlie makes all these statements about I'm America first.
Israel isn't bullying me.
Then he dies.
Then Patel gets caught.
We first broke it, confirmed now, saying no foreign involvement.
You're not allowed to investigate it, getting in Tulsi Gabbard's face when they said they found Intel of possible foreign involvement and domestic groups.
So there's a cover-up there.
And then you have all these threats coming out.
I mean, just open threats by Josh Hammer and by Levin and by all of them.
And people are like, whoa, like I was on the fence.
I didn't want to come out and implicate Israel.
I don't think they're, I still don't see real evidence, but they're certainly like trying to do that, trying to be the villain.
What is going on here?
max blumenthal
Yeah, what did Josh Hammer say that Tucker has to be neutralized?
alex jones
Like a fox in a henhouse.
max blumenthal
And you wonder why people believe the conspiracy theory that Israel killed Charlie Kirk.
I mean, look at how they're behaving.
In addition to the global assassination ring that Israel's Mossad runs, look at how they're behaving towards America First personalities.
Megan Kelly gets basically a pager threat.
Okay.
I never said that there was evidence that Israel killed Charlie Kirk, but many people believe it.
And you wonder why.
Do they care about anything else?
Like, do they care about the precepts of America First, the original branding and ethos of making America great again, of bringing American jobs back, of closing the border and those kinds of things that got Trump elected?
It looks like they only care about Israel, and yet they have this powerful donor class behind them: Adelson, Bernard Marcus, Pearl Mutter, Robert Shillman, and they're able to control and manipulate organizations.
And then they start to seem like anti-Semitic stereotypes, which to me, being an American Jew is really dangerous because this is what so many people see as the image of American Jews is Ben Shapiro saying that youth in New York shouldn't be able to live in the place that they grew up if they can't afford it.
And this is what America is all about.
alex jones
Well, and saying, screw Venezuela having family values.
Family values don't matter.
But it gets worse.
Have you seen Levin in a weird way when he read Tucker Carlson's text messages about, hey, debate me?
Said nothing about his stepson.
And he goes, you just threatened my stepson.
I see you in person.
You're going to get it.
And then he's up on a stage at one of these APAC groups.
And he's a week and a half ago and he's like, you think your little show?
You got to get through us.
Yeah, we're going to take you off the air.
That's how, I mean, he literally sounds like an Italian gangster in a stereotypical movie.
I mean, whoa.
max blumenthal
Well, he sounds like, he sounds like Meyer Lansky, who was who did the Jewish gangster, who did the books for Lucky Luciano and Crisa Nostra.
And Meyer Lansky actually helped set Sheldon Adelson up with the Sands in Las Vegas along with Bugsy Siegel.
And that's where Mark Levin was speaking from, wearing a gold tie.
So he's basically like the PR agent for the mafia, threatening everyone saying, you think your stupid little podcast can succeed?
You think anyone cares about your radio show?
We'll destroy you.
Basically saying there's no democracy.
It doesn't matter what the people think.
We have this donor class behind us.
alex jones
Well, I was told by a very important, powerful billionaire.
I'll leave it at that.
Just a few months ago, he said, listen, this is very dangerous.
He goes, we know.
We're trying to keep it out because it'll blow everything up.
We just want stability.
But he said, this is Myron Lansky's group.
It's the same group.
He said, it's not like they just come from that.
It is that mafia.
But what you just basically said is they say, no, this is Meyerlansky, Bugsy Siegel's, you know, grandkids and kids.
Absolutely.
max blumenthal
Absolutely.
And, you know, where did Myrlansky try to flee when he was kicked out of Cuba?
He tried to go to Israel where they have a non-extradition policy.
It's filled with mafia from Eastern Europe.
The guy that just got rung up in this huge scandal rocking Ukraine, who is considered Zelensky's wallet, has just fled to Israel.
It looks like he embezzled like $100 million of taxpayer money, which is our money going into Ukraine.
This is mafia stuff.
alex jones
Max Lumenzo, stay there.
We've only got like 15 minutes left with you.
I want to come back, give you the floor on these other issues, how it ties together, incredible analysis.
It's just true.
And is it chutzpah?
Is it arrogance?
I mean, because Napoleon said, never interrupt your enemy when they're making a mistake.
Well, I don't think Israel is my enemy.
I mean, and I can think ahead.
This is going to be explosive.
We got Tucker talking about it.
We got Megan Kelly too.
We'll play those clips when we come back.
Stay with us.
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Trump's approval rating is also down, according to Real Pulsters.
And I see on the street, and I got my finger on the pulse, meeting with the leader of Al-Qaeda, the dictator of Syria.
I understand he inherited that, but you don't have to slobber all over him.
It's just all real bad.
And again, some of my listeners are like, well, we need Trump to succeed.
Stop talking about it.
No, we have the White House's attention, okay?
And we've been able to fix some things here.
So I'm trying to salvage things, but this is going downhill fast.
But let me just say it this way, and we'll go to our guests and let me get to all the other topics.
He's got to go here in about 12 minutes.
I study second, third, fourth order consequences.
And so everybody that wants to blow Israel up, I think this is so cool.
I mean, I saw the young Turks yesterday from the day before literally say, yeah, we do want to get rid of Israel.
We want war with Israel.
So there is that camp, okay?
And that's where this goes.
And everybody's got to get more anti-Israel to prove they're the purists.
This becomes the only issue.
And it's an important issue.
And then Israel behaving like this does make it a central issue.
And it's just, it's disastrous when all these different factions aren't thinking further ahead.
Israel has all these nuclear weapons.
The whole world, it's the most unpopular country in the world down Gallipoles.
So with the way Netanyahu wants to cling to power by crisis creation and management, and then that supercharges all the other factions, including the left and the Islamics and all that, and the Mamdanis, this just gets worse and worse and leads to a very bad place.
And then God knows what the Lekudniks will do.
A false flag on a synagogue, something.
I said that eight months ago on Tucker, he agreed.
He warned that, you know, obviously they're teeing that up.
This goes to a very, very bad place.
It's like a game of chicken, but we all lose.
So here's two short clips.
Here's Megan Kelly.
She's being attacked and basically death-threatened for this.
Oh, get rid of your pager sweetheart because she's like, knock it off.
You know, stop.
Tucker's not, you know, quit escalating, Mark Levin.
She knows them both.
And then they come back and threaten her.
And then here's Tucker just straight up.
And I know Tucker well.
He's so excited.
He's the happiest he's ever been.
He came to apologize to me 15 years ago for being a neocon, pledge he never do it again.
I was like, we don't have to come apologize to me.
And he goes, well, you woke me up, my kids, with your videos.
And we come really good friends over the years.
And I hang out with Tucker quite a bit.
I mean, he is bouncing off the walls happy.
And everything he says on air is what he says behind the scenes.
And he's like, I don't hate Israel.
Like eight months ago at his house, he's like, Netanyahu was just calling up, threatening me.
He's like, I hung out with him for days.
He's like, he's like, they're all after me.
And he goes, they don't understand.
They're going to destroy themselves.
This is insane because he can think out.
He was stationed in the Middle East for years, blown up by terrorists with a CIA dad on a jumbo jet.
They barely survived.
And his dad had the thing covered up because they didn't want to know the assassination almost worked.
And he didn't even know until later.
But the point is, is that this is hardcore dangerous.
So here's the two clubs.
We'll go back to Max Blumenthal and talk about where he sees this going and how does Trump extricate himself out of this?
Or if he doesn't, what does he predict is going to happen?
Because this is a disaster, folks.
And people, oh, not even God can sink this ship.
The second term of Trump on this trajectory will be like the Titanic.
Okay.
And we've got time to turn away from the iceberg, but not long.
Okay.
And believe me, the Democrats want to put me in prison.
So I need Trump to succeed.
What you're getting from me is, oh, you got Qatar.
I put another turban on my head.
Oh, Jones is doing this because of Qatar, this imaginary bull.
All right.
Here's the clips.
megyn kelly
I know Tucker and Ben both.
They are both under serious threats.
unidentified
Like, to be honest, I am too.
megyn kelly
Like, it's, it's, this is a very volatile time.
I don't like to talk about it.
I'm not going to talk about it, but I'm just saying I know both of them are under serious threat.
So just put a lid on it, Mark Levin, because I guarantee you, the wrong people listen to that, and we could have another powder keg on our hands.
And you don't want that.
You don't want that on your conscience.
Just have a debate like a man on principle.
And why don't you show up at the turning point event and debate him?
Just debate him.
That would be so good for this conservative movement you claim to love so much.
You know who's at the turning point events?
Future conservatives and current conservatives, young people, young people.
This would be a chance for you to influence somebody under the age of 70.
You should show up there and debate.
Why wouldn't you debate?
He's so disgusting.
You can't debate him.
I'm like, I can see not debating Nick Fuentes, to be honest.
I can.
But Tucker, he's so far outside the mainstream.
All the Jewish friends I have in my head who text me all the time, like this is their, this is my father.
They would all debate Tucker.
They would love to debate Tucker.
They've got their facts ready to go all day.
Why won't he do it?
And why is he sounding like a leftist shill with his rhetoric, just trying to dismiss people as like these horrible bigoted people who I need to be?
You can't even stand next to them on a stage.
This is not good for America First or the conservative movement.
And it's mana from heaven for progressives.
tucker carlson
You want people to follow you?
You want to sell your ideas to them?
You want to convince them that what you're saying is true?
Show some love for them.
Demonstrate that you love them.
You care about them.
Why are we doing this?
Because we think it's better for you.
Shapiro and all of these guys, they don't make an effort to do that because they don't feel that way at all.
Shut up, cattle.
You're a Nazi.
Give us the money for our preferred little country or else we're going to denounce you.
Man, those attitudes are incompatible with leadership and, in fact, with democracy itself.
You can't have a country of 350 million people governed by boutique goals and concerns.
I really care so much about this thing.
And you better care about it too.
Or else I'm going to attack you and deplatform you.
It doesn't work.
It's illegitimate, actually.
And if you keep it up, you're flirting with, you know, a real backlash, like a real one, not Nick Fuentes, like a real one.
So cool it.
Listen to other people.
Don't treat them like cattle.
Treat them like human beings.
alex jones
Meanwhile, Levin put out audio yesterday.
He's like, I don't care about podcasts, the internet.
I'm on talk radio.
I'm the biggest.
Sorry, you're not in the top 20, dumbass.
And so it's just, it shows this insane bubble.
Levin just wants the attention.
He's literally making Israel the villain.
Max Plimenthal, Gray Zone, thegrayzone.com.
Speak to whatever you want about this.
And then those two powerful clips, but also the danger of what Tucker's talking about, where this does lead if this continues.
max blumenthal
We're seeing the danger of it.
The U.S. has become the eighth front in Israel's war.
And Israel will be in a continuous war as long as it embraces this colonial model known as Zionism.
It's been at war since its inception.
As long as it insists on occupying millions of people, it's going to have a PR crisis and people in the U.S. are going to speak out and it's going to use its cutouts to try to crush them, which is why you're seeing this battle taking place.
This started actually in Trump's first term.
He came into office with hundreds of millions of dollars from Israeli cutout Miriam and Sheldon Adelson, and he proceeded to kill, assassinate a figure who had posed no threat to the United States, who actually worked directly with the U.S. military in Iraq to destroy ISIS, the second most important official in Iran, Major General Qasim Soleimani.
And that started a war with Iran, which was going on today.
Netanyahu asked Trump to do it, pushed him to do it.
He did it.
And what did Trump do this week?
He welcomed in the Oval Office the founder of the Al-Qaeda branch in Syria, the co-founder of ISIS, formerly known as Mohammed Al-Jolani, who is in a U.S. prison, Camp Buka in Iraq, who is now the president of Syria, not through any election, but through force.
He welcomed him in the White House and sprayed Trump perfume on him and his foreign minister.
This is after demonizing Zorhan Mamdani, claiming there was going to be a jihadist takeover of New York.
He welcomes the head of al-Qaeda in Syria.
So what's going on here?
Al-Shara, that's his real name, has promised to basically stand down before Israel.
And in exchange for doing whatever Israel wants as the Syrian president, Donald Trump is willing to spray perfume on you, even if you were an al-Qaeda mass murderer.
So what is going on here?
Israel is dictating so much of Trump's agenda, and now it's starting to tear Donald Trump's very base apart, demoralize it.
And you ask where this is going to go.
Well, it's going to poison the presidential campaign of JD Vance.
JD Vance, as far as I know, he's not like the most zealously pro-Israel guy like Marco Rubio is, who's a creation of the Israel lobby and the neocons.
And he wants to chart a middle path.
But if you try to chart a middle path, people like Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro and Benjamin Netanyahu and Josh Hammer, they're going to see you as the enemy.
You have to either be all in with their mafia or you're out.
And they will try to destroy him the same way they're doing his friend, Tucker Carlson, and Megan Kelly.
And that spells disaster for the Republican Party.
alex jones
I agree.
In closing, looking at the cover-up of Epstein, now you've got the FBI covering up Crooks and people helping him.
You've got this rapid response team, and it's all unraveling.
Turns out they did have all this internet data and metadata on Crooks, said they didn't.
That's all coming out from our own reporter.
And she's coming on later.
I mean, this is disintegrating very, very quickly.
How do you expect the Democrats to play this?
I mean, what are the different possible outcomes of this?
Let me ask this.
How does Trump extricate himself from this?
I think going further than Vanced a few weeks ago, where he says, we're not against Israel, blah, blah, blah, but we're America first.
And we run this administration.
Well, then we need to see real action on that repudiation or this or Israel will become the number one issue.
It already has and will completely, I guess, have a battle with Trump for control.
I mean, what's going to happen?
max blumenthal
I mean, I think the young people that are speaking out on both within both parties who are calling out the leadership on TPUSA's tour, for example, asking tough questions of Trump's children about the $230 million from Miriam Adelson, they're doing the right thing.
They're not going to be psyopt into falling back in line.
And we're seeing the same thing with progressives.
And let's be real.
The Democrats sell out their base constantly.
That's what they do.
They just sold out their base on the ACA, and now they're focused on the Epstein files.
If they were in power, they'd probably be suppressing the Epstein files too.
This is about the people against the 1%, and it goes beyond any party.
So it's important to keep the focus on these issues.
alex jones
No, you're right.
This is true populism.
max blumenthal
Yes.
alex jones
And my issue with Israel is how did Net does Netanyahu care that he's made Israel the main battleground and that he's actually losing it?
And does he care the whole world turned against Israel?
max blumenthal
He only cares about himself.
And you talk to most Israelis, they'll understand that.
But there's no opposition there.
And as long as he keeps Israel in a state of war, then people have to rally around the flag.
And that's why he's preparing another war against Iran, in which Donald Trump said he was fully on board from the beginning with Israel's unprovoked attack on Iran, which wound up.
How did it wind up?
A communications center at the key U.S. airbase in the Middle East was hit by Iranian ballistic missiles at the end.
It's going to be more intense and more violent.
And so Israel's preparing to drag the U.S. back into another war with the US.
alex jones
Well, John, I was about to say the U.S. is building bases in Lebanon and Syria right now.
What do you think those are for?
max blumenthal
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
max blumenthal
The U.S. is building a base in Damascus.
The whole point is war with Iran.
But here's another thing that's happening in Congress.
It's called the U.S.-Israel Defense Partnership Act.
And all the APAC tools in Congress are going to sign on to this.
And it will force us, the U.S. taxpayer, to pay an additional $335 million to buy emerging technology and weapons on behalf of Israel.
And that's why it's so important to see what's happening to Thomas Massey, one of the few members of Congress who's actually standing up against this.
And what is happening?
Trump is targeting him in his own rural district in Kentucky with $20 million from Miriam Adelson, the Israeli warlord.
And this is America first?
This is disgusting.
alex jones
All right, let's start again.
max blumenthal
People on the right are against it.
alex jones
Absolutely.
It's people come together.
This is the ultimate symbol of insiders, outside power, special interests.
It's become the, you know, I wish China was the main focus, but okay, Israel wants to do it.
Here we are.
But looking at this, what about the Republican congressman out of Randy Fine out of Florida and all the rest of these guys literally saying, we're going to censor you.
We're going to control you and all these legislation they're passing that ends the First Amendment.
The left's been the guys doing that.
I'm totally against it.
But now this, I mean, what about the whole censorship angle?
And are you concerned about maybe a real crazy attacks of synagogue or something at stage?
But I don't see Netanyahu wanting to lose this.
So if I was him and he's Mr. False Flag, heavily involved 9-11 right through, I smell a red, wave the red shirt event.
Israel needs that.
max blumenthal
Yeah.
I mean, Randy Fine and all these characters are the biggest advocates of hate speech laws, laws to define whatever they don't like as hate speech.
And this is something you traditionally associated with the quote-unquote woke left.
Well, now it's the neocon Likudnik right that's really actually getting real action on this.
And you're right to bring up the specter of false flags as well as manufactured anti-Semitism in order to create hysteria in order to lock down the public speech and our ability to organize according to the First Amendment.
And New York will be ground zero.
They're freaked out about Zorhan Mamdani.
They want to discredit him.
There's so many ways they could approach that.
The recent spray painting of swastikas on a synagogue in Brooklyn, we don't know who did it, but it's very suspicious.
And I think everyone needs to look at what's happening with a skeptical eye, including the Michigan terror plot that Kash Patel claimed to have busted when they didn't even know what the plot was.
alex jones
It's just like the Whitmore kidnapping.
So final point.
I keep holding you.
I got to go.
max blumenthal
Yeah, and that's what we.
alex jones
That's the last thing.
max blumenthal
The Whitner kidnapping plot.
It was an FBI-manufactured plot.
So be skeptical.
Don't be psyoped into submission.
This is about the people against the 1%, and it goes beyond parties.
And we know what the problem is here.
And it's great to see people, young people who are in the America First movement, who are on the right, finally waking up to what the problem is.
alex jones
Well, I was going to say, I'm proud of Trump's supporters and not just the young ones.
They're the main ones.
I'm proud because I've got older families concerned that are Trump supporters.
I'm glad that we're not like the Democrats, that we actually are trying to be moral.
I mean, I think that shows this is the right wing is the main populist movement right now.
It's not even right wing.
It's just rebelling against it.
But when you said Mamdani 9-11, I hadn't even thought of that.
Oh, if I was the Lakudniks and their branch in our government, the Defense Department, that's just as bad as Israel wanting wars.
Ooh, a new 9-11 to blame on Mamdani.
And I'm on the Mamdani defender, but that makes perfect sense, Max.
max blumenthal
Yeah, I mean, Trevor Aronson, the terror researcher, wrote a book called The Terror Factory showing that over 90% of the so-called ISIS and Al-Qaeda plots in the United States during the Obama era were cooked up by the FBI.
Just look up what happened in Garland, Texas.
Watch the 60 Minutes report on that.
The FBI actually followed the shooters to the site of the shooting and made sure that they did it.
So we need to be prepared for that as well.
And I think people are not trusting the official story.
They know that if Trump attacks Venezuela, it's on the basis of lies.
They know that the cartel that Nicholas Maduro is said to be in charge of cartel of the Sons was actually created by the CIA in the early 90s in order to ship drugs into the United States on behalf of the DEA.
There was a 60 Minutes report on that as well.
They know the WMD stuff and the false flag stuff, it's not going to work anymore.
And so we're seeing more and more desperation as everybody on the left and the right realizes that the enemy isn't the guy in the barroom.
It's the guy in the corporate boardroom who exists in an air-conditioned office behind closed doors, unaccountable to the public, firing off emails to Jeffrey Epstein asking him for dating advice.
alex jones
Wow.
Impressive.
Max Blimenthal, thegrayzone.com.
I must visit Max Blimenthal next.
Thank you so much.
max blumenthal
Thanks a lot, Alex.
alex jones
Oh, man.
You know, everything he said is true.
And that's what I love about it.
He's really smart.
He's informed.
He just calls balls and strikes.
I am extremely upset.
This is a total disaster.
I told you a month ago, Trump's losing support in his base because I got my finger on the pulse.
I don't need to see polls.
But the polls show it.
And then for my listeners that get pissed at me and say you're being a killjoy, no, I'm not.
I understand that here's the deal: Israel's not going anywhere.
I don't want to blow up Israel.
The young Turks say they want war with them.
I meant to get that club to the crew from two days ago.
That's where this goes.
And the worse Israel acts, the more those people get energized.
And they are as happy as a pig.
And you know what, right now.
People just say, well, why do you want Israel to exist?
I'm not against Israel.
It's done a lot of bad things to expand.
It's done.
They got nuclear weapons.
They ain't going nowhere.
They're not going anywhere, and you're going to end up causing a conflagration.
And I see the Israel lobby rushing in, doing everything you do to make this as bad as possible.
And then I guess Netanyahu and Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin get to be the heroes for their group and all of this while you're exacerbating and supercharging all of it.
I want peace and security and stability in the future.
The world is so dangerous.
We've got so many problems.
And I have really tried to get people to focus on all the other big issues because those are big issues.
There's plenty of people that just spend all day on Israel.
I am forced now to spend half the show on Israel because I'm trying to get our government and the Israeli government to correct what they're doing.
So it may feel good for Mark Levin to beat his chest and put these threats out and that idiot Josh Hammer.
And it must feel good to just be a one-trick pony and have one issue and you don't have to worry about anything else.
You just do whatever you think and you're right.
You can cause all the problems, make all the threats and censor people and all this crap.
And then you don't think about any of the repercussions.
I mean, there are a lot of people in my life that it was people I've known that a society totally collapsed and Road Warrior.
There's no more whatever.
And they, you know, eye for an eye that, you know, I saw them on the street, they'd have a problem.
But I got to think about what would happen if I did the thing I want to do.
I can't do that.
Plus, they're not even worth it.
But it just must feel good to be Mark Levin sitting up there saying he's got the biggest audience when he's not even the top 20.
I mean, I've been number one English speaker in the world, not just news.
I've been number one.
I'm in the top five.
But it's not like some, it's a responsibility.
I'm actually glad I'm not number one now.
But then I got to see somebody that's never won the ND 500.
It'd be like if you never won a Super Bowl ring and I've won like five of them.
He's talking about how he's the best football player.
I'm like, dude, you ain't got a Super Bowl ring.
I got five.
It's like some guy that never even made the NBA telling me he's Michael Jordan.
I'm just like, dude, shut up.
You are pathetic.
It's like a little kid.
You got the biggest show.
It's just like, what?
You sound like, you know, 10-year-olds in the boys' bathroom showing each other their dicks.
I mean, it's just like, dude, think a little more about what you do, you schmuck.
Seriously, man.
God help us.
Oh boy, there's still time to get out of this.
But we've got to make as much noise and get as upset as we can.
Blame me.
The White House is watching right now.
And there's a lot of people who agree with us there.
And we've got to stop being afraid of Netanyahu.
And we got to just tell it like it is.
Because Netanyahu has made himself stay in power, the issue.
He knows exactly what he's doing.
With all the problems in the world, I'll ask the Jews this: do you want to be stuck in the middle of all this?
Like, you're the only issue?
Because that's what you've done.
That's what your leaders have done.
And I don't blame you.
I'm just saying you need to be heard from and not just instinctively line up with Netanyahu and get under his black wings.
Coming with Danzick under her black wings next segment.
All right, I'm going to go to break.
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alex jones
Well, President Trump will put how many days in office up on screen, has done superlative work securing the republic, getting jobs back, getting out of the carbon taxes, shutting down the human trafficking.
C minus on finding the kids, but that's been happening, but they're minors.
So it's not allowed to be on the news, but it's just big.
I go on for hours, the great things, but the coming in and covering up Epstein or looking like he is when he's not in there and all the nothing burgers that we predicted.
We'll get into it with Roger Stone.
He's the expert, wrote books on it.
When I was vetting Trump, you know, interviewing him 10 years ago.
And then the appearance of mindless support of Israel.
And then the neocons come in trying to bully Tucker Carlson and everybody else and say they're going to be platformers of Kash Patel suing MAGA people for literally nothing.
And then it coming out that Kash Patel, and I was told this by people in the meeting back in late September, say, we're not looking at any accomplices, foreign or domestic, even though there's six trannies saying Kirk will be dead tomorrow.
All of that makes Trump look like he's the establishment.
I know in Trump's mind, he's like, I'm not trying to stop World War III.
I'm trying to get factories back.
I don't have time to deal with this.
It's Jeffrey Epstein's a hoax.
Well, remember, when you corrected it, you mean you being involved is a hoax.
And everything they've released is old stuff, blacking out the names.
The names weren't blacked out before.
We'll explain this.
But Mark Mitchell is a great pollster, but I see it on the street and I see it online.
Trump six months ago was riding high, highest approval rating ever.
Now it's in trouble.
We need him.
And by sitting here sycophantically going along with all this, we're going to destroy this recovery and the West.
So I want to get into all the details.
Obviously, defense of Trump.
I've already done it.
There's nothing there.
The point is, is bigger than that, how do we influence Trump?
Because now we know the DOJ and Todd Blanche, not just killing investigations into me and making mean comments about me.
Oh, he's friends.
He doesn't deserve any help.
That's emblematic of all this, and people see it.
And so it's an optics issue overall.
Roger, we're two minutes to break, but just give me a prelude, stunzone.com, on where you describe where we are.
I think there's really a battle going on between the Republican donor class and the consultant class and the 99%, as Max Blumenthal said, of his base.
I think the base wants to hear.
He's like, I'm helping internationally.
People like, why do you care about international?
Because it affects us here.
He's totally right.
But it's the optics.
I think he needs to stroke the cat, stroke the dog.
Tell it.
I mean, am I wrong here?
We only got a minute to break.
Roger?
roger stone
Alex, anybody who underestimates Donald Trump does so at their own peril.
This is a president that has closed our southern border, which was completely porous, who has undertaken the greatest single deportation of illegal immigrants in U.S. history, dangerous illegal immigrants.
This is a president who gave us the largest tax cut in American history.
No, he's not perfect.
We never said he was perfect.
And yes, we might need some course corrections in various areas.
But overall, stop and think just for a moment.
Where would we be if Kamala Harris were president right now?
alex jones
In total hell.
roger stone
So, look, this Epstein thing just aggravates the hell out of me because I've researched it.
I've probably written more about it than anyone alive.
And it is a hoax.
The idea that Donald Trump has some untoward or inappropriate relationship with Jeffrey Epstein or that he spent Thanksgiving of 2017 while he was president of the United States with Epstein is absurd.
They've cherry-picked these emails.
alex jones
You're absolutely right.
Let's come back.
All right, front and center, the Democrat Party mouthpiece, drudgereport.com, tells you everything you need to know.
And I predicted this the last 10 months with the mishandling of the Epstein stuff PR-wise by the Trump administration.
Dark days of the dawn.
And then they go into all this garbage.
Now Trump asked DOJ to probe Jeffrey Epstein dealings with Clinton and J.P. Morgan because they're the ones all implicated.
Well, then why has Trump then just said it's a hoax?
He means them saying he's involved is a hoax.
So this is good.
Go after them.
Use it.
That's what I said.
People don't want this to go away.
Trump is losing his grip on MAGA.
That's what Newsweek and all of them are saying.
But here's going back, brief flip over to Roger Stone, because I covered this yesterday to show this, but Beck does a really good job here.
And I've gone through the Steve Bannon stuff and this on Trump.
It's all, oh, Steve Bannon met once.
Yeah, for a TV interview.
Steve Bannon sent him emails.
Yeah, hey, let's get rid of the fellow reserve head, spamming people.
I get the same text.
This is all the Democrats have.
Now they don't want it released.
Johnson says release it.
It's stuff they got from the Epstein family.
That's why Trump got pissed when he learned what all this was.
Innuendo, recycled crap.
And that's why I said, don't just release everything.
Instead, the mistake was, and I don't know who told Bongino and Patel to do it that they're in the headlights thing, you know, six, seven, eight months ago.
And they say, oh, no, he killed himself.
And oh, no, he didn't have any accomplices.
And oh, no, like, why?
And now, oh, the pipe bomber, you know, it isn't a Fed and they're trying to, and oh, Crooks acting alone.
All this is unraveling.
It's not Trump.
It is the bureaucracy.
And Trump says, look, I got a country to run.
But he said, okay, we'll go after Bill Clinton, Reid Hopman, Larry Summers.
Exactly.
Do not protect them because they will lie about you.
You have to destroy them.
They're the ones at the island.
They're the ones at Zorro Ranch, not you.
So whoever convinced you to move on, we got a bigger fisher fry, they're not going to let you.
They set you up.
And I said months ago, I said, when they double-cross Trump, he's going to call for frying them.
The difference is, does he have a DOJ that'll even do it?
Because at every level, Todd Blanch has his foot, not just on Ed Martin.
He's not my only source.
In fact, Ed only talked about my cases.
I want to be clear.
I've got a, I mean, we got Browna Morello coming on sources that there was all this data from Crooks, and the FBI said there was none.
That's coming up.
I'll get Roger Stone's take on this in a moment.
But first, Glenn Beck knocks it out of the park.
Here it is.
glenn beck
Why are they trying to cover up that Donald Trump had sex with children?
unidentified
I mean, it's as clear as day in the email.
glenn beck
Let me read what Jeffrey Epstein wrote.
I want you to realize that the dog who hasn't barked is Trump.
Victim redacted, spent hours at my house with him.
He has never once been mentioned.
New information just released.
Or is it?
Because in 2011, that was released and everybody knew it.
It's been out floating around.
Here's the change.
I want you to realize the dog who hasn't barked is Trump.
Virginia spent hours at my house with him.
Why would you redact a name that is already out in the public square?
Well, because it makes it all suddenly new and shiny.
You see victim and you're like, oh, there's a victim that he was who was the victim.
But when you know it's Virginia, you know this has already gone to court.
She already testified about this.
And I'm quoting, this is from the testimony.
He didn't partake in any of this, any sex with any of it.
It's true.
This is not new news.
If you remember when the shutdown first started, what did the Democrats say?
The reason why they did the shutdown?
Why Mike Johnson and everybody else wouldn't negotiate?
Because the heat was on to release the Epstein files and they didn't want to have to do that.
So they shut the government down.
So the government is open.
And what does Mike Johnson do yesterday?
He said the House is going to vote on a bill to release all of the files related to Jeffrey Epstein next week.
Good, Mike.
Release all of it.
If anybody thinks that you're ever going to get the truth on this in the first place, it's madness.
It was in the hands of the Democrats for the longest time.
You don't think it was all picked through?
And if there was anything about Donald Trump, you don't think that would have come up between 2020 and 2024?
There's nothing in there about Donald Trump.
alex jones
All true.
So, Roger, why then did Trump go safe from release it?
I know it's a whole bunch of suits and crap and bull and everything.
I get it.
It's not a case, it's not a file.
It's not a list.
It's a bunch of stuff.
Why then move to the deer in the headlights and all the stuff that made everybody pique their interest and created the Streisand effect?
And where do you see this going?
Because I'm sure you know now the Democrats now don't want to vote to release it.
And Democrat judges want to block it being released because we know who's in there, the Democrats.
roger stone
Yeah, Alex, I think you sum this up.
When the president said this is a hoax, he's not saying the fact that Jeffrey Epstein, charged by the Trump Justice Department in 2019 on one count of child sex trafficking, on the second count of conspiring to engage in child sex trafficking is a hoax.
What he's saying is that any involvement on his part is a hoax.
Now, I personally interviewed Virginia Roberts Juffray for six hours, two three-hour sessions for my 2015 book, The Clinton's War on Women.
Brad Edwards, a very able attorney who represented Virginia Roberts Juffray, has said publicly that the only major public figure that would help her in her lawsuit against Jeffrey Epstein was Donald Trump.
She says in her sworn testimony, not just there where Glenn Beck highlighted it, but elsewhere, that there was no evidence that she saw no improper conduct by Donald Trump.
alex jones
And all the other victims said the same thing.
roger stone
And if one will simply go to the Federal Election Commission records, they will say it was Chuck Schumer who took giant contributions from Jeffrey Epstein.
alex jones
Whose protege is Wiener with the Clintons and Uber Abedin?
roger stone
Precisely true.
So again, let's go through the facts because they're important.
Jeffrey Epstein was cut off by Donald Trump in late 2004.
alex jones
That was Wolf that and said that he dropped the dime on him, which you said a decade ago on my show because I was vetting Trump and how'd you want about it?
roger stone
Exactly true.
So again, prior to his even being exposed in Florida, because Epstein makes an improper advance on Virginia Roberts Guffray, who's then underage and working in the spa part-time, he cuts Epstein off.
Norma Federer and Rona Graff, both assistants to Donald Trump, both of whom have become very good friends of mine, tell me that Epstein at the time, Epstein is barred from all Trump properties.
Epstein is creepy.
Those are her exact words.
So these emails prove nothing.
First of all, they've all been out there in some form or another.
This is a hoax, but who really is guilty here?
Who was on the island?
Bill Clinton, Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell, Treasury Secretary Larry Summers, all Democrats.
Go to the Federal Election Commission records.
Who was taking big bucks from Epstein?
Schumer, the Democrat Senatorial Committee.
You won't find any money to Republicans, and you won't find any Republicans on the edge of the United States.
alex jones
And the IT leaks, seven, eight, nine-year-old children for John Podesta's entertainment are being libred to a secretive house in the woods in northern New York for his entertainment and for Aleister Crowley time.
So it's all over them.
It's constant.
There's never, exactly.
This is insane.
So I said Trump 10 months ago when this all started.
He has to damn the torpedoes and go out for the Clintons, but he didn't.
How good is it now that Trump says he wants the DOJ to go after them because he knows they're guilty as hell?
This is what I advise, Roger.
This is what I advise.
What do you say?
roger stone
Well, as you know, Alex, it was right here on your show that I recommended that the first step was for the president and his Justice Department.
And they did this to move to release all of the grand jury testimony against Epstein in the 2019 indictment.
alex jones
Democrat judges blocked it.
roger stone
Right, both in Florida and New York.
Yet the Democrats say that we're the ones standing in the way of full disclosure.
Alex, one other important thing I want to say, and I was just came, I just came back last night from Washington, D.C., and it was cold.
Let me tell you, it was so cold.
The exhibitionists were describing themselves to people, to use an old joke.
It was bitterly cold.
But I went there, first of all, to honor General Michael Flynn, one of the greatest American patriots and leaders.
It has ever been my pleasure to know.
He was honored at a veterans parade, Grand Marshals dinner.
It's one of the main reasons I went to Washington to honor that great statesman, that great American.
But he and I were also there working on something very important that people don't know about.
Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas seeks to shift the declassification authority currently lodged in the office of the Director of National Intelligence over to the FBI and the CIA.
Yes, you heard me right.
He wants to give declassification authority to the two agencies that were up to their ass in the Russian collusion hoax.
Now, there have been several iterations of his Senate plan to do this.
And Congressman Crawford, who's the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, thank God is resisting this.
But whether it is a change in the structure that makes the deputy directors of the FBI and the CIA subject to Senate confirmation, that's one way he seeks to do this.
Or whether it is just the transformation, or I should say, the transfer of that authority to those two agencies.
Senator Cotton is a deep stater.
This is an extraordinarily dangerous move that would take authority to declassify away from a presidential appointee and put it in the hands of the Senate, who could obviously blackmail any nominee over the release of vital information.
This is an important fight that Americans need to be aware of, and they need to let their elected officials, their senators, their congressmen know that they are opposed to any move to make these changes.
alex jones
Absolutely.
So looking at the poll numbers, though, regardless of what's right or wrong, the perceived Trump control by Israel thing is a hot issue.
The neocon war of the Never Trumpers against Tucker and others is really blown up.
That's the issue the young people that were in massive numbers in support of Trump is causing a major issue.
How do you think Trump should handle that?
roger stone
Alex, look, I hate to steal a line from James Carville, who I never had that high a regard for, but it's still the economy stupid.
So yes, food prices have come down.
Yes, gas prices have come down, but food prices are still not as low as they were in the final year of Trump's first term as president.
So although things are better, they're not so much better that the American people are yet feeling the incredible job this president is doing.
It does take time.
It does take effort.
Take the tariffs, for example.
Back in June, we had the first month in which the American people had an actual surplus, meaning the government took in more money than it paid out.
That is an extraordinary accomplishment.
But the president can't turn around an ocean liner in less than a year.
He's been president for less than a year.
And these things do take time.
I find these attacks on Tucker Carlson to be repugnant, particularly when they're coming from people who were never MAGA, people who supported Ted Cruz for president, and then they supported Nikki Haley for president.
Now they're trying to tell us that we're, we're, you and I, and people like us who were from Donald Trump from the very beginning, that we're not MAGA, people like Tucker Carlson.
That is outrageous.
alex jones
I agree.
And so we need, I'm telling you, five-point boost just on this alone.
Trump has easy to come out and say, I support the First Amendment, I support Tucker Carlson, because you have Kash Patel suing Elijah Schaefer, suing Kyle Serafin, and Serafin's on fourth hour.
Serafin just covered news.
People said maybe she's a mossad honeypot.
I don't see any evidence of that.
He has a right to say people are covering it.
It was a big news story.
But then Schaefer didn't even say she was.
He posted a picture of the two together, and then they sued him and said his law firm, FBI guys, and said, well, you criticize Israel here, here, and here.
There's a lawsuit.
So you deserve this.
This is the next level.
And they use political correct terms like microaggressions.
People are freaking out because, oh, don't have time to get the Epstein files out, but we got time.
And he's encouraging all these FBI just to sue other people.
And you got Todd Blanche up there.
We're seeing more of the same lawfare killing Ed Martin, investigating my persecution, InfoWars, and then over here running around in lawfare.
People are really pissed about this.
And I want Kash Patel to succeed.
I don't know if he's a good guy or a bad guy, but man, if he thinks suing people because they're making jokes about his girlfriend makes it go away, I'd like to explain how the media works to cash.
I mean, it's hard to believe he's that stupid.
I don't think he is.
What the hell is going on here?
You're the NCI director.
Your girlfriend's a popular country music singer.
You're a public figure, dude.
Grow some skin.
roger stone
Yeah, if you and I had a dollar for everybody who's attacked us, and we have no recourse because we're both public figures.
I would urge cash to focus on the mission at hand and drop these lawsuits if he asked for my advice.
Look, I think he's a good man.
I like him.
I supported him for that job.
I don't quite understand what's happening here, but there's a larger mission here.
And I don't think the president is getting enough credit for taking on the globalists.
I don't think he's getting enough credit for shutting down the border.
I don't think he's getting enough credit for the efforts in places like Chicago and Washington, D.C. Let me just stop you.
alex jones
I know you do dozens of interviews a day.
You're a workhorse.
Trump wouldn't be in power without you.
Our audience knows the great things, he's kind of.
This is a major, this is really on average, very informed people.
I'm asking you, big picture, what Trump can do PR-wise to not let the leftist media focus on schisms and then make those distractions the bigger issues.
I'm asking you, strategy, if you were talking to Trump about better ways to energize his base.
roger stone
If you watched him in the last 24 hours, I think he used the key word.
He used it over and over again.
It is affordability.
He was smart to take on the head of the Federal Reserve.
He was smart to try to fire the Federal Reserve officer, a board member, who very clearly engaged in mortgage fraud.
That would have given him the votes for a deeper cut in interest rates.
The American people will end up voting on the economy and their own pocketbook.
Now, he isn't influenced by the.
alex jones
I agree with you that he got inflation down on energy big, but other stuff overhang.
Inflation slowed 85% or so compared to almost 90%.
But still, it's super high.
I get it.
You don't turn the ship around quickly.
So maybe he needs to explain that because stuff like I'll turn it around the first week, I'll end the Russia war.
We get it.
It's campaign stuff.
But exactly, it is the money issue.
roger stone
There's no question about that.
Look, his record as a peacemaker is extraordinary.
I've said publicly, I say it yet again, that the head of the Venezuelan resistance, who I think is a good woman and a freedom fighter, she should accept the Nobel Peace Prize and she should immediately send it to Donald Trump, the guy who actually earned it and deserves it.
But the American people have a long history of not voting on foreign policy issues, the Vietnam War being the only exception to that.
So despite the fact that he's made peace, that he's ended eight international conflicts and he will end the conflict between Russia and Ukraine before long.
I have no doubt of that.
The American people will still vote their pocketbooks in the final analysis.
And that's where the focus has to be.
That's where people are still hurting.
And they don't recognize that things are down.
They are better.
There's no question.
But they're not as good as they're going to get.
He needs to stick to his domestic agenda.
He needs to replace this chairman at the Federal Reserve as soon as he possibly can.
And he needs a deep cut in interest rates.
alex jones
No, I totally agree.
And we've got to remind the voters and everybody, where would you be with Kamala?
Stop being babies.
Everything Trump's doing.
I can spend hours a day just every issue I look at.
exactly what I would do talking to economists, things I know they inside baseball on, like ranching.
Since the 90s, Clinton credit, you know, helped them create a oligopoly with four meat packers that are screwing everybody.
And then the Democrats blame ranchers.
They're going bankrupt.
And Trump's literally going in and shutting that down.
It's like each little point is the exact thing to help the people.
So I know how great he is.
That's why I get pissed when on the messaging, because I understand the messages on Israel is a side issue.
But if his constituents want it, he's got to give them what they want.
roger stone
Well, let's be very clear, though.
We have a beef shortage in this country because of the radical environmental policies of Joe Biden.
And I understand that the cattlemen are unhappy that he's increased the quota of beef from Argentina, where we have a pro-freedom ally as the president.
But if you wanted to get more beef in the United States, it simply doesn't exist.
The herd sizes are down.
alex jones
They don't get real business.
The way to undercut the meatpackers is to bring it out of other countries in the stopgap and then break up that monopoly.
No, I know the beef business.
What Trump's doing is the exact right thing.
People just don't, they're not, I'm not being mean to listeners.
I mean, some of you might be a brain surgeon.
I don't know how to do that, but I do know about the beef issue because we've dealt with it on a lot of top ranchers in the country.
Absolutely.
In the interim, to buy beef from our allies that are putting tariffs on us is totally reasonable, lower prices, but that's only a stopgap.
He needs to get the regulators off of the problem is you got to scale up.
It'll take years because you can't even set up a major meatpacking operation because in the past, the Democrats owned the inspectors, Roger.
They would come shut you down.
You have one violation.
If you're not the big four, you're shut down.
Big four can be as dirty as they want.
That's the problem.
That's the artificial bottleneck.
That's why they make the majority of the money and they're the reason beef costs so much.
Same thing with chicken and Tyson.
roger stone
Well, also true that we, because of this screw worm epidemic in southern and central Mexico, Mexico, which used to supply quite a bit of our high-quality beef, is kind of off limits.
Now, there is still quality beef being produced in northern Mexico.
And if there is a way to test that and prove its purity, it could be brought back into our markets.
But Alex, think if you or I went out and we couldn't get a big juicy steak.
I mean, good God, I can't think of anything worse.
alex jones
There's only one thing better than a good piece of ass, and that's probably a ribeye.
I'm sorry to be bad, folks.
It's just, I mean, like, I literally sit there like, what's better, pussy or steak?
It's a hard choice, Roger.
Which one do you like the best?
roger stone
Alex, you know what?
This is a hard week in Washington, D.C.
I got to say this.
You don't pay me to say it.
You didn't urge me to say it.
You didn't tell me to say it.
This methylene blue stuff is great in terms of your energy level, your focus, just your mental balance.
This is the greatest product you have ever produced.
I'm glad you turned me on to it.
I saw the video of RFK dropping it in water and drinking it.
That made me inquisitive.
Then you send me some of the very best.
This is pharmaceutical grade.
This stuff rocks.
Again, you didn't tell me to say this.
You didn't ask me to say it.
You didn't prompt me to say it.
I'm saying it because it's true.
alex jones
People are not saying, I apologize, Family Show.
I mean bad.
Roger, we got a little bit of time left with you.
When we come back, what are the other big issues we should hit?
roger stone
Look, Alex, I think that I, too, am disappointed by the fact that we're hosting this guy from Syria.
I do really do not understand this.
alex jones
I think the president's foreign policy is-oh, yeah.
roger stone
I mean, you were virtually weeping about it online, and you should have been.
I just do, I do not understand this.
I just don't understand it.
When I make inquiries, I'm told that this is the brainchild of Sebastian Gorka.
I don't know if that's true.
But I've heard it, and I think it is a horrific idea.
alex jones
Oh my God, the gay whale is involved.
roger stone
That's what I hear.
alex jones
The man has the fakest voice on planet Earth.
roger stone
Where's his monocle?
There's the real question.
alex jones
You could, let me tell you, the CIA torture people with Skinny Puppy.
The one thing that would break me would be locked in a room listening to Sebastian Gorka's voice.
I'm just giving my secret away.
I mean, God almighty, the fake is the gay whale.
Let's go.
We'll be right back.
jen in georgia
Real quick, I just wanted to plug the methylene blue.
I'm a new supplement buyer from Alex Jones' store, and I keep hearing people talking about the methylene blue.
And I'm like, you know what?
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And what I noticed is I didn't get the sensations that a lot of other people said that they got, you know, like the tingling fingers and like this, you know, euphoria.
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And I really think it's the methylene blue that's been giving me the energy.
And it's so funny because now like my silly husband's calling me a meth head, which is hilarious.
But yeah, so I'm going to stick on that.
And I actually have some bovine coming in today.
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But yeah, I just thought, I just thought I would tell you guys about my experiences.
breanna morello
Well, Jen, thank you.
That's amazing to hear.
And we love to hear that, honestly.
I mean, that's the reason why Alex has created the shop so people can get, you know, get healthier and not be relying on big pharmaceutical companies, but instead take control of their health.
So that's good to hear.
You know, I fluctuated weight-wise too.
And so finding something that works is really important.
And not to get hips hooked on those like high caffeine, insane chemicals, energy drinks, which so much of us have relied on over the years.
I literally was getting anxiety from one of them.
And so I too am on the blue these days.
So I guess your husband would call me meth head, but it's good to hear from you, Jen.
I love it.
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alex jones
All right, Roger Stone's our guest.
We've got huge breaking news on the FBI's typical cover up of any accomplices of the crooks.
And we'll have the big guest lawyer that went through it all on Sunday or Monday.
I was just talking to Brianna Morello during the break, but that's coming up.
Look, I'm proud of constitutionalists, of Christians, of conservatives of populists that have fought through all this tyranny and intimidation and gotten Trump in really three times.
They stole the, obviously, 2020.
And it's healthy that we're critical of Trump because that means we're critical of the bad actors and lazy people and cowards and others in the administration.
But this new administration's light years better than the last.
But to be blackpilled and say we're all doomed, that's not a good thing.
But I think it's very healthy to criticize the problems that we see.
And we see a lot of times, most of the time, response from Trump.
And I've had mixed feelings on this.
I don't like Maduro.
He's a common stick tattoo.
The Democrats have used it as a piggy bank for election fraud.
That's the real reason to go in there.
But I don't trust the CIA that's been giving intelligence to the Pentagon.
Trump's had him there for months to launch this operation.
They're saying it's days away.
They're giving Trump options.
Now, are they saying this to make Maduro leave?
Because he says he's ready to leave.
Hopefully that's the case.
Hopefully it's all a bunch of saber rattling.
But the country's bigger than Texas and it's got all sorts of mountains, you name it.
And Colombia says it'll come into the war.
And I get it's in our hemisphere.
So I get academically that Trump has the right.
Thomas Jefferson would have already gone in there, like the Barbary Wars, but I still have big concerns.
So Pentagon briefed Trump on military options against Venezuela for coming days.
Roger, what's your take on this inside baseball?
I mean, to me, this doesn't look like just bluffing with all these three carrier strike force groups and all the Marines and Army brought in.
This looks pretty serious.
Maduro said to America, let's have peace and all the rest of this.
What do you think is about to happen?
roger stone
Alex, look, God knows I'm no neocon, but we cannot put up with encroaching communism in this hemisphere.
Situation in Honduras is particularly vexing.
The Biden Justice Department essentially framed the pro-U.S., pro-Trump president of Honduras, Hernandez.
They framed him for drug trafficking.
It was a joke.
Those who testified him were convicted drug traffickers who were let out of prison in return for their false testimony.
And today, Honduras is basically a staging ground for the Marxist narco-trafficking of the Venezuelans.
So it's not just Venezuela.
It's not just Cuba, which continues to be a vexing problem and a major spy center.
alex jones
And it's Venezuela that props up Cuba.
roger stone
And the Chinese who prop them all up.
I mean, right now, China is a targeted.
alex jones
This is really about a move on China.
roger stone
Yeah, absolutely.
I think it's, again, my good friend General Flynn, who I would definitely bow to on any mattle having to do with military or intelligence, has pointed out that Cuba is being used as a major and very sophisticated spy center by the communist Chinese, and that there are missiles on the surface of Cuba that may technically be defensive missiles, but with an hour of technical touch-up can become offensive missiles.
alex jones
Yeah, retro-fitted to liver nuclear weapons.
So Cuba Missile Crisis 2.0.
roger stone
Absolutely.
And therefore, I kind of applaud Marco Rubio and President Trump for the hard line they're taking against communism in this hemisphere.
Maduro has to go.
This guy is a Marxist narco-trafficker.
alex jones
What about the trap?
What about the CIA doing a Bay of Pigs and setting up the military?
roger stone
Look, I don't think Trump's going to fall for that.
He understands overwhelming force.
And if we are going in, we will go in with full force and we'll be successful.
From what I understand, you know, at this point, Maduro is constantly looking at the sky, waiting to be hit by a drone, worried about being hit by a drone, because that's kind of mentally worried.
alex jones
He said three days ago he's ready to leave if a deal can be made to Europe or to Russia.
So maybe this will happen, but then who gets put in?
I mean, obviously an election.
roger stone
Yes, and I think there'll be a fight over that.
I mean, you presume you have some transition government.
There's some people who do not want the, what's her name, Machado, the head of the resistance, to be involved.
I think she can rightfully claim that she was elected.
She should certainly be part of any transition government.
Of course, you have Chevron very worried about their oil leases there.
And I think that may be interfering with foreign policy here.
So I applaud the hard line in this hemisphere.
I'm not looking for some endless foreign war in which we get into a long, protracted struggle.
But if we have to take out Maduro, I think we should do so.
alex jones
Yeah, well, let's be clear.
This is not neocon stuff.
This is realism.
But look at this.
Here's an example.
This is not in our hemisphere.
And we all heard this, but it happened.
South Korea has fallen to pro-China, pro-North Korean communist.
The president says if you criticize communists, the Chinese, or anybody, you'll be put in prison for five years.
So this is an example.
Communism is on the move.
This is no game.
roger stone
Well, I think maybe people maybe missed this, but there was an incredible, essentially a surprise coup within the Japanese parliament, which the Conservative Party teamed with a smaller libertarian party to overturn the left-leaning and Chinese communist-infiltrated Japanese government and elect a new pro-Trump, pro-America, anti-illegal immigration.
alex jones
So the good news is, the good news is Trump and Tulsi Gabbert and others are moving behind the scenes to counter this.
roger stone
I think that's exactly right.
Just this past week, the Chinese communists threatened to cut off the head of the new woman prime minister of Japan because she's pro-freedom, because she's pro-U.S., and because she's on to their infiltration.
alex jones
By the way, is that the first female prime minister of Japan?
roger stone
It is indeed.
It is indeed.
She's amazing.
alex jones
So I know everybody wasn't obsessed over Israel.
Don't worry.
We did two hours on it.
There's other things going on, isn't there, Roger?
roger stone
Well, this is a great democratic small D development in Japan.
This is a game changer.
Japan is very rich with rights to rare earth minerals, which the Chinese have designs on.
They're very rich when it comes to gold.
And now you have a pro-U.S., pro-Trump, anti-illegal immigration, anti-globalist government in Japan.
alex jones
Well, they're also some of the smartest people in the world and probably the hardest working.
So it's good to have them on the team.
roger stone
This is an important breakthrough in Asia and a huge setback for the communist Chinese.
unidentified
All right.
alex jones
In closing, I don't know if you follow this yet, but we already knew this.
It takes hours to get into it.
We know Crooks was just a cover guy.
He did fire shots, was another shooter.
By the grace of God, Trump lived.
We know there was metadata.
We know it got covered up.
We have Bongino and Kash Patel and all them saying there's no data.
Now we have whistleblowers, people that got into the files that got it.
It's all going to come out that indeed.
So we knew the Democrats and the corrupt director of the Secret Service, the deputy director, covered it up and stood down.
We knew the FBI threatened investigators that went to look into it with Jack Pesovic.
Now we have a task force being set up by the FBI to counter Tucker on his movie, which will just make the movie 10 times bigger.
It's like you guys are real rocket scientists.
I'm not trying to tell you how to cover up, just geez.
Tucker Carlson knew who is Thomas Crooks, May documentary, has the FBI creating a rapid response force going completely ape.
Trump said, I want to know what happened here.
What happened here?
Because it's confirmed.
Cash said no looking at any accomplices with Charlie Kirk's murder.
He had all these people bragging, they'll be dead tomorrow.
Then you got this going on.
I'm sorry, Roger.
This is not good.
roger stone
No, it's evocative of Dallas, Texas in November 22nd in 1963.
Smells very, very much like it.
I'm sorry, but I don't believe that Thomas Matthew Crooks acted alone.
I'm not even sure that he's the actual shooter.
It's impossible for me to believe he had no accomplices.
The FBI told us that they can't unencrypt his phone.
I'm sorry, but the most basic IT guys say that's an impossibility.
So I haven't seen Tucker's movie, obviously, yet, but Tucker Carlson remains the epic truth teller of our time, a fearless and out there on the cutting edge of just telling the simple truth.
I'm very anxious to see this because it smells just like Dallas to me.
alex jones
Well, that's right.
And, you know, every time Apple gets asked an encrypt thing, it's a PR thing, the FBI does like unencrypted or Droid.
And they go, sorry, we won't.
And it's all a kabuki dance.
All this stuff goes over servers.
It's all stored.
And they also have backdoors and all the apps.
And I know FBI forensic agents, you name it.
And I've known this forever.
I'm not a tech guy.
I just know what they tell me.
The FBI can break into any device in five minutes.
The CIA can do it even quicker and the NSA because it's all been stored.
Again, people think, oh, there's encryption.
It gets unencrypted when it hits the servers at the cloud.
Nothing you've done is secret, boys and girls.
You think that's deleted when you went to Pornhub?
It's all in the record.
Every email, everything, it's all recorded.
So this, oh, you know, Bongino and them, oh, yeah, there's no internet activity.
And now we have people that have gotten into the court cases in the middle of it.
They said now it's there and they're trying to tell us this.
Why would, and I get it, Bongino and them are in over their head.
I've got 50 employees.
I can't imagine having 50,000.
But just to take what their underlings are taking them and just say, oh, no, remember them 10 months ago during the headlights?
Epstein killed himself.
Crooks acted alone.
Like, no one's buying that, Roger.
roger stone
Yeah, look, I mean, as you know, Michael Badden, probably the most respected New York medical examiner in history, one of the most respected pathologists in the country, was hired by Epstein's family to inspect the body and said that the fractures and various bones in his neck were completely inconsistent with him hanging himself.
Badden, who did the autopsy in over 1,000 hanging cases, says there's no way that Epstein killed himself.
Yet we're expected to believe otherwise.
It's vexing, to say the least.
alex jones
Do you have any idea why?
Because if they're going to cover it up, okay, I'm not defending it, but why come out and then Streisand affected?
Like, is Bongino and Patel retarded?
roger stone
Look, I like both of them, and I'm confused by it.
I really is.
I read Kash Patel's book, Government Gangsters, terrific book, knows exactly who the bad guys are and how they conduct themselves.
So I am vexed by the whole thing.
I'm not going to denounce any member of the administration because I don't think that's beneficial, but it's not adding up to me.
The whole Crooks thing does not add up to me.
alex jones
Well, I just want to be clear.
I want them to succeed too.
You think they wanted to put us in prison before?
If they get kicked out, we're screwed.
I'm trying to get the lifeboat I'm in to not poke holes in itself.
roger stone
I'm with you on that.
alex jones
Stonezone.com, Roger Stone, incredible job.
Thank you so much, my friend.
roger stone
Thank you, Alex.
alex jones
God bless you.
Amazing.
All right.
So in the last 48 hours, Thomas Massey releases the messages and letters.
Whistleblower being targeted for exposing the pipe bummer, Portland Capital Police, now CIA, and major damage control there.
Then you got it being released.
The FBI creates today or yesterday a rapid response account to respond to Tucker Carlson saying they're claiming there's no metadata on this guy, Thomas Crooks, the main shooter, Patsy, in the Tempit assassination in Pennsylvania on July 13th, 2024.
And then Breonna Morello, who is not just a great talk show, it was weekday mornings, 8 a.m. to 11 a.m., and not just a Pentagon reporter on her own side.
She's got a lot of great sources.
I've seen this information.
And she's getting the lawyer on for us.
He can come on today.
We don't have time.
He's going to come on Monday who's gone through all this.
Here's what she posted on X.
And now the report's out.
Incoming report, I've been provided with intel review regarding Thomas Crooks and his social media.
My source says the FBI was given every opportunity to use the information, but did nothing.
I've reached out to the FBI for comment.
We're going to get to it now.
Here's the report.
Intel report, Thomas Crooks, alleged social media dump.
And now we're seeing it come out.
So they told us there was no history, no nothing.
His house all scrubbed, no utensils, any of this.
Both parents, behavioral psychologists, it gets weirder and weirder.
And then now this is coming out.
So Brianna Morello, thank you so much for joining us.
Explain to us exactly what's happening.
breanna morello
Hi, Alex.
Thanks for having me, of course.
Well, we're learning a lot about the social media footprint that wasn't supposed to exist, but somehow now does exist.
Just so your audience knows, we actually received this information, the same information that Tucker has been given.
We've got a little bit more, it looks like.
So we're sifting through it.
But this is what we've learned so far.
Again, they told us there was nothing really out there, but we're finding his Snapchat, the emoji that he was using to do that.
And then also we've got a well-outlined timeline of his YouTube comments.
And his YouTube comments are very, very interesting.
They go from he's obviously a Trump supporter, and then they transition into someone who is going along with the COVID pandemic lies in the narrative.
And then he goes after those who use the term deep states.
And then he goes after anyone who is against mail-in ballots.
And so he made quite a bit of a test.
alex jones
So this is a hyper-leftist.
breanna morello
This went from someone who was originally against Ilhan Omar, the squad, threatening to kill them, to all of a sudden, yes, a leftist.
The transition itself doesn't make any sense.
And you can't really tell us to why all of a sudden his political views shifted.
If you just look at the timeline, though, it drastically changed right at the beginning of the pandemic.
And that's when his views start to shift.
He was very anti-immigration.
He even said, issued death threats to those he viewed as socialist Jews and then threatened to kill them.
He threatens to kill Ilhan Omar and send her body back to Somalia.
He also threatens to kill other members of the squad as well, illegal aliens.
alex jones
Remember, we first heard with no evidence, oh, it might be a Trump supporter.
Whoever was controlling the account was creating these breadcrumbs.
The issue here for me is that the FBI claimed there was none of this social history and testified to that pre-Trump and then now with Trump.
To me, the issue is, how are they claiming that they had no information?
And now we know this was out there.
breanna morello
Yeah, that's the concerning part because YouTube took down his page on the 14th, the day after the shooting.
They took down his page and they said it was due to violence.
That was their reasoning behind taking down that page.
So although the FBI answered to Tucker Carlson saying that, well, how do you know that this is all authentic and this is him?
The reality is, is how do they know?
I mean, they were the ones who have had this.
Now, according to my source, too, they tried their very best to give this over to the FBI, but the FBI wanted no part in this.
They didn't even look into the information is from what I'm being told.
So, you know, I've reached out to the FBI for comment.
I did give them a hard deadline, though.
They were supposed to respond back to me within 50 minutes ago, it looks like.
So they haven't yet issued that response.
I'm waiting to hear back from them as to why they didn't take this in when this was handed to them.
alex jones
Well, sure, they already had it then.
So that's not good.
And then we've got Kash Patel and Bongino eight, nine months ago on Fox saying, Crooks acted alone.
Just trust us.
We could all watch the other shot come over from a different and hit all the bags and clothes and hit people and all the witnesses.
And we, I mean, the whole story wasn't true.
So, I mean, wow.
How did to me, it's like, why, why is the FBI joining in on this now?
breanna morello
Yeah, we don't know.
We don't know.
And just to give some background too, I knew Dan Bongino before he went into his position, and he was someone who obviously went into this role with the best intentions.
But due to people I've spoken to over at the FBI, there's a lot of people around them trying to sandbag them.
And so I can't tell if they are just being given bad information at this point.
And it's just a bunch of people who are trying to discredit them publicly.
So I'll give them that ounce of grace for right now.
But they haven't really responded on this front.
You know, last night they also took the time to begin the launch of their FBI rapid response Twitter account to go after those who do pushback against them.
So one could only assume that there's probably something there that they're trying to just push that narrative that they currently have, but they don't respond when you request for comment on most of these instances.
I mean, obviously, I told you before, I've asked them for responses on other previous topics, and you don't really get much in the way of substance back from them.
And it's also important to note, too, I know Tucker outlined this, and we put it up over on independentnewsroom.com.
That's where I allow anyone to view this information for free.
You could go over there right now because there's one of the YouTube comments by an individual whose username is Willie Tepps.
And when you trace it back, I know the individual who handed this over to us also traced this back.
It looks like it belongs to an individual who might be affiliated with an Antifa group, a foreign Antifa group.
It's the Nordic Resistance Movement.
They are actually listed on the State Department's website as well as being a known terror organization.
They were communicating back and forth with this individual.
alex jones
So that's where things are going to go next.
We heard at first there were foreign connections.
Now we're told by Bongino and Patel, no, look at nothing.
Yeah, this is crazy.
breanna morello
Yeah, it's crazy.
And there's obviously Discord chats that we're looking to see if we could get our hands on.
Obviously, those are extremely hard to do.
That's where a lot of these individuals are taken offline and radicalized.
So if there is something there, it's very likely that it wouldn't be on the comment section, obviously, but it would happen behind an encrypted.
And I know you guys and Roger Stone just discussed it.
It's not really encrypted.
So the FBI likely has copies of all these discussions, but it'd be taking place on a private server that they think is encrypted, I guess I'd say.
So again, we're looking for more.
We've got way more information.
I'm sifting through it because I just got all of this a couple of hours ago.
So we're kind of going through it, running it through PI right now to figure out more information, all of this.
But there's several social media pages that he had.
alex jones
And so what Tucker has been working on for months and just dropped with his documentary.
breanna morello
Yeah.
So Tucker got this back in September.
We just got this, and we're working on this also with an attorney who you're going to have on the show on Monday as well.
So we're going to keep sifting through this, but there's a ton more.
I mean, this is dozens and dozens of pages of social media accounts that allegedly belong to Crooks.
And so we're going to continue to sift through all of this.
But again, it creates more confusion because how does someone go from being a Trump supporter allegedly from their YouTube comments to then all of a sudden be a radical lefty who goes out there and tries to kill the president?
Now, we do know that he was someone who publicly posted, and this is another great point, Alex, because he publicly posted death threats to elected officials.
How does someone who's posting over the span of 2019 and 2021 multiple death threats to political, like political officials all across the spectrum, not get a call or knock on their door from the FBI?
It's really hard to think that not a single federal agency had this guy on their radar, even though it looks like, according to his YouTube account, he might have been communicating with somebody who was associated with the foreign Antifa organization who is on the State Department's radar potentially.
So none of this seems to make a lot of money.
alex jones
That's just like Kirk was six cranny saying he'll be dead tomorrow, celebrating the day it happened.
See, I told you, and now we know Cash Pell said, kill that investigation.
I mean, this doesn't look good.
breanna morello
It doesn't look good for the FBI, unfortunately, right now.
There's a lot going on that people are just scratching their heads and wondering why is this happening right now?
You know, obviously, many people within the Trump circle, Trump's his family, his son, Eric Trump, has not been happy with the investigation thus far.
They still don't know any information.
But it's very, very clear to us that these things, these social media posts have intentionally been withheld from the public.
So they can't understand.
alex jones
Yeah, so they've been caught alive.
That's the big news.
So where do you see this going now?
breanna morello
I think we're going to create a lot of pressure for the FBI to start releasing more information.
You know, they don't like to verify these things.
They make us put this out there first.
And then they have to forcefully verify it, of course.
So right now, I think there's going to be a lot of public pressure.
I think the president is going to be really fired up and angry, probably get a call.
Probably Cash Pell will be receiving a phone call probably relatively soon.
And there will be questions asked.
He needs to go out in front of the American people and make a comment, a public comment about this.
alex jones
And then Majel hopes Trump, who's busy, just forgets.
I've been told for the last admin this one.
He gets mad, he gets focused, but he's so busy.
They just go, he'll forget.
Let's just move on.
breanna morello
Well, I don't think he's going to forget because he almost got hit in the head with the bullet.
So I think this one's going to be a top priority for him.
And I hope it is.
Listen, the American people deserve answers here because it looks like there might have been some radicalization done online potentially by an Antifa organization.
And again and again, we keep talking about this and they host roundtables, but there's nothing being done to stop these radical left-wing groups that go out there and radicalize Americans online and go after those who are mentally ill.
And then obviously we saw what happened to Charlie Kirk.
So again, they just continue to create these so-called conspiracies that they like to say, oh, you don't know if this is true.
Like they told Tucker, you don't know if this is true.
This is authentic, but they won't actually put the information out there for the American people.
alex jones
Yeah, that's key.
They say Tucker's full of crap.
And then you have all the evidence come out.
It's all true.
And of course, it goes, we all saw it happen.
He obviously probably wasn't even the shooter.
You had all this forensics.
It's crazy.
Maybe Cash and them are just total amateurs because, I mean, this, if I was a villain, I would do a better job at this.
It's like they just do the worst job possible.
breanna morello
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I know we just couple seconds, but I want to get out there too that Tucker did a good job at vetting this.
alex jones
Hold on, do five more minutes.
We got call server from the big NBA whistleblower and all those coming up, but just do five more minutes, Brianna Morello.
Here with us, she hosts weekday mornings.
She's out of town right now covering stuff, but Rob did a great job this morning.
She's back Monday, 8 a.m. Central, American Journal, Infowars.com forward slash show.
Brianna Morello, great investigative journalist, back in two minutes.
Stay with us.
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unidentified
deliberate, deliberate, premeditated, premeditated, premeditated.
alex jones
Well, I've been a fan of Brenna Morello for three or four years watching her.
Been around longer than that, but Fox News, you name it.
Man, getting to know her, working here at the office, she is just knocking out the park.
Very hardworking and amazing accuracy record.
We have Thomas Massey saying a whistleblower is being targeted by the FBI.
We have Bongino flipping out about it, turning the pipe bomber and J6, reportedly being allegedly a capital police and CIA.
And that story's off the radar now, partially.
And now you have this.
Everywhere I look, the Justice Department and the FBI particularly is in crisis.
We got four minutes until we end this.
Just in general, I know you have a lot of DOJ sources.
What is the state of it?
It looks like a civil war is going on inside of it.
breanna morello
Well, I mean, keep in mind, Alex, remember just a couple of weeks ago, we had breaking news and it came straight from the FBI director's Twitter account when he said that there was allegedly a terror plot that was that they caught and they broke up in Michigan.
And then we later learned that this was apparently ISIS inspired.
Now, the thing is, is Kash Patel put out that information prior to the criminal complaint being completely drafted up by the DOJ.
And it was right when your next guest, Kyle Seraphim, was putting out his jet logs and all of his information out there.
And that was causing quite the PR nightmare.
But also keep in mind that we now know that he announced all of this on social media prior to all of the individuals who were allegedly involved in this ISIS-inspired terror plot being arrested.
They had only arrested two of the individuals.
It later came that another two, and then I believe another individual was also arrested.
There's apparently 10 characters listed in the indictment.
One is actually a minor, so we don't know their details.
But the reason why I say it is Kash Patel came out before these people were even arrested and announced it on X.
And he put it out there, which caused one of them to bump up their flight and was getting ready when the FBI caught them and arrested them, was getting ready to leave the country.
So we have an FBI director who likes to put things out there prior to it being 100%.
alex jones
He's literally jumping the gun for PR purposes and promoting his girlfriend's country music job.
It's total edgelording, total Hollywood wannabe stuff, which is very sad.
FBI director just put this out, Kash Patel.
He said, oh, 480 FBI agents, we did the investigation.
A repeat of Fox News, you know, eight, nine months ago.
We investigated it.
That's the way it is.
And just, you know, he acted alone.
This is only to put fuel on the fire.
breanna morello
Yeah, yeah, it is.
It is because they won't be transparent.
You know, they sat here and told us they were going to tell us all the information and put it out there, and they didn't.
And they also got really strange and were just being very vague.
And so they couldn't give us stuff during the notorious interview that Dan and Cash did with Maria Bartaroma on Fox.
And the both of them looked like there was someone behind the camera with a gun to point it directly at them because the way that they were speaking just wasn't natural.
And it sounded like they were under a lot of pressure to come out here and hit key talking points.
So I think that they're creating a lot of these so-called conspiracies that they like to pretend and dismiss are conspiratorial or they're not true.
We all know that there's a lot of issues with the FBI.
And these were the two men who were supposed to create a transparent FBI for us and give us the answers that they said we deserve to see.
And unfortunately, that's not the case.
alex jones
Now I know I don't see how either one of them, and Patel is obviously the problem.
I don't see how they're there soon.
I think Bontino was smart months ago trying to leave.
I mean, this is a disaster.
And Patel jumps on everything, attacks, sues journalists for no reason.
I mean, good God, this man is a train wreck.
breanna morello
Yeah, well, my word of advice would be get off Twitter.
That'd be the first thing because they seem to be very consumed about what those say on the on Twitter, which is strange.
But, you know, I was encouraging Dan to leave the FBI so he could still at least have a podcasting career because I think it's very obvious that they are doing their very best to try to discredit both of these men here.
alex jones
Yeah, absolutely.
All right.
Thank you so much.
And I guess you're going to have more of this in the coming days.
breanna morello
Yeah, we'll be posting this.
We'll be posting it all over Twitter, of course, at Brianna Morello and over on independentnewsroom.com as well.
alex jones
All right.
We'll cover it all here at Infowars.
Thank you, Brianna.
breanna morello
Thank you, Alex.
alex jones
All right.
Carl Seraphin, not just the number one FBI whistleblower in the current time.
Nobody's ever done as much as this guy.
He's batting almost a thousand.
I say almost.
Maybe there's something I found where he was wrong.
I didn't find it.
I don't want to see batting a thousand because maybe he's been wrong about something I don't know about.
But what I know about batting a thousand, he'll cover the waterfront and where this crisis in the Trump administration goes.
We're covering this to fix it.
All right.
Because we have power to change things.
We're doing this to change things, not to attack Trump.
unidentified
Do you know who's gone full steam ahead with the wrecking ball at the White House?
President Trump bulldozed a third of the White House last week.
breanna morello
It's all being replaced by a massive ballroom.
chris hayes
He's ripping up the East Wing to build a grand gilded ballroom.
unidentified
Construction workers yesterday began tearing down a portion of the East Wing of the White House to build President Trump's new ballroom.
You guys, I don't think he's planning on leaving in three years.
chris hayes
The entire East Wing of the White House is now gone, irreparably.
unidentified
Happy to announce Operation Big Balls.
Hi, society.
God's gift to ballroom notoriety.
And I always fill my ballroom.
The event is never slow.
The social pages say I've got the biggest balls of all.
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And he's got big balls.
And she's got big balls.
Cranes and bulldozers are tearing up the facade of the White House's east wing, clearing the way for President Donald Trump's new ballroom.
You hear that sound?
roger stone
Oh, that's music to my ears.
unidentified
I love that sound.
It's going to be bigger than the White House itself.
The demolition sparking outrage today.
chris hayes
That is more destruction the White House has seen since the troops for the British Crown burned it down in the War of 1812.
And Donald Trump is tearing down the White House.
unidentified
It's all part of the president's new ballroom project.
roger stone
Operation Big Beautiful Balls.
That's what we're going to call it.
alex jones
I don't remember asking for a ballroom.
unidentified
Trump continues building his multi-hundred million dollar ballroom, and we're now at $350 million.
Barry tore up the White House and spent $400 million in taxpayer money during a recession.
And what did he have to show for it?
The basketball court.
alex jones
And Trump's using donor money to build all of it.
unidentified
Trump's spending less.
$300 million on a big, beautiful ballroom, and you're not paying for it.
roger stone
The government's paying absolutely nothing.
The ballroom is going to be glorious.
unidentified
But I made the balls a little larger as a tribute to my manhood.
roger stone
The biggest and most beautiful balls of the law.
unidentified
Oh, we've got big balls.
alex jones
No one elected big balls.
megyn kelly
Big B-A-L-S, big balls here.
alex jones
Personally, I voted for big balls.
All right, we've got an incredibly accurate FBI whistleblower who exposed the Democrats.
It was such a hero to the right and the Bongino and Patel and everybody.
And then as soon as they got in, boy, it was ice age.
And you've got the Thomas Crooks bomb show.
They had all this metadata in this social media and covered it up.
Obviously, that's all being confirmed.
We got the Epstein fiasco coming to a head.
You've got Patel, not just suing Kyle Seraphin, who's on with us, the FBI, former FBI agent, but also Elijah Schaefer that we covered.
And they say he never talked bad about her.
He just posted a photo of her.
And so he's anti-Israel, so he needs to be taken off the air.
And now this is just now breaking.
I mean, total fear, total hysteria in the FBI.
Absolute disaster.
Kash Patel, Wade polygraph screening for Don Bangino.
We've got how the FBI's massive search for the pipe bomber stalled.
This is all coming out.
There's a big new development in the Jan 6 pipe bomber story.
This is all just completely wild.
And then huge scandal suing Kyle Seraphin for just saying, hey, the internet thinks she might be honeypot could be.
That's just free speech.
And then I just chaffer even less, drawing massive attention to it.
And then you've got Trump plunging in the real polls.
This is coming to a head very, very quickly.
And the big question is now, will Kash Patel bring down the Trump administration?
Because he is just running around wild-eyed.
They've created this rapid reaction force to counter Tucker with the whistleblowers, the information that they had all this stuff on Crooks.
The main shooter, Patsy, in Butler, Pennsylvania, July 13th last year.
Everything they're doing is like a hole in one, but in reverse.
It's what I would do if I wanted to destroy myself.
Just like eight, nine months ago, the Deer in the Headlights interview on Fox.
Epstein killed himself.
Crooks acted alone.
You know, now we know when I first reported back in September from the White House, the Pattel screamed at Tulsi Gabbard and said, even though she's commissioned by Congress by law to do it, I don't want you involved looking at us.
We don't want to look at any accomplices, even though you had six trannies saying Charlie Hurley will be dead tomorrow.
We don't want to look at foreign involvement.
I mean, this is so surreal, I can hardly believe it.
So I'm going to try to shut up.
I got so many questions.
But Kyle, where to begin?
How would you describe where we're at right now?
I mean, I think clearly we're watching the complete meltdown of Kash Patel in real time.
And then what comes next from this?
I mean, we had all these other issues, but this is now front and center because of the just bizarre behavior of Kash Patel.
Kyle Seraphin, thanks for being here with us.
People can find all your work at the Kyle Seraphin Show, dot locals.com at KyleSeraphon on X, KyleSerapherShow.com, rumble.com, Kyle Seraphin.
Kyle, thank you so much for being here at the tip of the spear.
So nobody's more dolled in than you from all your sources, your own research.
What is going on?
kyle seraphin
I think we start with the Tucker story.
Did you watch that?
Have you guys kind of talked about the little stuff?
alex jones
We can roll some B-roll of that.
Yeah, who is Thomas Crooks?
kyle seraphin
So he does this bit on who's Thomas Crooks.
And what's really damning, and I sent you guys a clip over there.
And I think if they get to it, it's video number five.
It's the last one I sent over.
But if they can get a chance to, we'll play it.
It's actually in Tucker's little documentary.
And what it is, is, and I didn't key in on it previously.
It was the Maria Bartaromo interview.
That's the one where they look like they're doing a hostage thing.
And that's what Brianna was talking about just a moment ago.
They're sitting there.
They're on camera talking to a Fox lady, which is a friendly, easy interview to do.
And Dan has the most uncomfortable, ridiculous statement.
He says, we've been briefed on all the files.
And I'm riding my bike like an hour ago watching the Tucker thing.
And they played that.
And I went, holy crap.
I bet they didn't even review it themselves.
And that makes sense.
Like when you're the deputy director, you got a lot of things going on.
When you're the director of the FBI, you got a lot of things going on.
But what you're trying to tell us is that the people who worked at the FBI that did all the things in the FBI that these guys claimed was a problem, they just took their word on it.
And, you know, let him say it in his own words and we'll go back and dissect it.
I'll see if you hone in on the same thing, but it doesn't sound like they even did the review themselves.
And then he says things that are not real.
Like, I don't know what a tendril or a nugget of a story is, but that's a Dan Bongino thing for saying, I don't know what's going on.
So I just make up words.
alex jones
Let's remember, let's see.
There's no internet files of Thomas Crooks.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, he legitimately says there's no there there during this particular interview, but he also says that if I'm hearing him correctly, he didn't actually review it.
alex jones
And I think Tucker's bigger point is there are no files, but we reviewed the files that don't exist.
Here's a club.
Club five, guys.
dan bongino
Cash is not kidding.
We have been personally briefed extensively on every single detail, nugget, tendril of this case.
One is actively in court right now.
So, out of respect for the case, it's probably more appropriate that I stay quiet on that.
However, I'm not going to tell people what they want to hear.
I'm going to tell you the truth.
And whether you like it or not is up to you.
If there was a big explosive there, there, right?
Given my history as a Secret Service agent and my personal friendship as a director does with the president, give me one logical, sensible reason we would not have.
If you can think of one, there isn't.
There isn't there in some of these cases, the there you're looking for is not there.
And I know people, I get it.
I understand.
It's not there.
If it was there, we would have told you.
alex jones
Horrible body.
So describe what we're seeing here.
kyle seraphin
Well, the thing that I've key in on, both of these guys have the same tell, and they've both been using it basically since they've moved into this role.
They both refer to prior credibility, and then they don't answer a question.
They actually ask a question.
And so it goes like this: Alex, you ask me a question and I say, Alex, based on all you know about me, would I ever lie about this thing?
They don't say, I actually reviewed all the files.
I sat down there and I looked at the evidence myself and I went down to wherever the evidence locker is in Pennsylvania or whatever that is.
I don't know if they should do it.
alex jones
And he goes, Listen, trust me.
Yep.
kyle seraphin
He did the same thing on Rogan.
Like Patel did it on Rogan.
He's done it a couple of times.
He steps out and he always does this.
He says, you know, based on who you guys know I am, would I ever lie to you about this thing?
Can you imagine if I was going to hide the idea of a child trafficker getting away with it and hurting some kids?
And you go, I don't know.
Would you?
That's the follow-up question.
He's like, would you?
Because you don't get to just ask a question and let me answer for myself.
But that's what they both have done in the same scenario.
And then we find out this bit that Tucker had.
So Tucker's documentary is very, it's damning in so much as there's a lot of questions that are not answered.
And he pointed out the roadmap on how to get to the answers.
He said that there's something like 11 or 12 or whatever the number is of internet personality profiles.
They were on various different websites.
There was a Snapchat.
He had 700 plus comments over on YouTube, which was suspended right after the shooting.
They had stuff over on like Quora and a couple of others.
And he had some online gaming accounts and he had some contact with some guy who was part of a German antifa movement.
And then Tucker also does a pretty good job, assuming that he's accurately assessing the movement of these comments.
They go from very pro-Donald Trump to very anti-Donald Trump.
And as they do that, it has to do with maybe COVID and lockdowns.
And you can imagine that would have a big impact on people.
alex jones
Tucker has got it.
And she said it's all there.
Now, did he really post this at Crookstew or somebody else?
The point is, this is no longer speculation.
Whoever did it, we have it.
So again, why is Bongino, which we have a clip of, earlier telling Congress it's so weird there's no internet background on this guy.
Now we know the Biden FBI ignored it.
Now the new one's ignoring it.
Why would you do that?
kyle seraphin
It's a hell of a question.
What my guess is, is just based on listening to him and taking him at his word, he got briefed on it.
And the FBI is in the business of not giving the FBI any bad press.
So the story went out.
There was no footprint.
That's what Paula Bates said in front of Congress.
You know, this is the official narrative.
We're going to go ahead and craft that out there.
And then theoretically, we put a couple of skeptics in who said the FBI needed to either be burned to the ground or completely dismantled and rebuilt in the image of proper constitutional law enforcement.
And then they didn't do it.
And why would you go in and do the one?
I swear to God, Alex, I warned these guys of this personally.
I've said it.
I said it to Cash.
The first thing these people will do is bubble wrap you.
And bubble wrapping is a tactic.
And we've talked about it with different names and different agencies.
But essentially, you come in and you give them all the scare tactics and you wrap them up and you have them go out there and do the politics and you tell them how cool this job is.
And look at the jet and here's how nice it is.
And here's where you can go.
And we've got your itinerary lined up.
And why don't you fly out here and see these people in San Diego?
That'll be cool.
And now you got to go to League At London and all this stuff.
So they fly you all over the place and they get you really excited about the job and the perks and all the things that go along with it and not doing the job.
And don't worry about the FBI.
We'll run the FBI.
It actually reminds me of that scene from, I think it's from Dark Knight or from Batman, one of the Batman beginnings, where they say something about, don't worry, Mr. Rain.
You know, it's very complicated running this company.
We've got that under control.
You just go be a playboy and a billionaire and why don't you go have fun?
And of course, that's the joke at the end is that he takes control of the entity, but they didn't do that.
They didn't go in there with a skepticism.
These people would come and lie to you.
You're going to take a brief from people that work at the FBI about the story that was like theoretically going to go kill your friend, the current president.
And then you get scooped by Tucker Carlson because he actually went and did the work on it.
I've got some insight that the New York Post may have a story coming out pretty soon as well.
And it's going to be even worse because this information has been shared with a couple of folks.
And Tucker's documentary is one.
And there's additional information that needed to be run down.
And it's going to look really, really bad.
Now, my buddies tend to think it looks like what we call the playbook, which is where the government sets up somebody to do something.
But inevitably, they've been really successful at taking these people down.
Inevitably, they're going to set up somebody who's going to kind of escape containment and they're going to go do the thing that they weren't supposed to do.
Maybe they don't take the fake gun that the FBI gives them.
They take a real gun from their dad or something.
We've been waiting for this to happen for a long time.
And I've always wondered if that was what was going on there.
We've got another clip of him talking about it.
Bongino used to be a skeptic and suddenly he got in there.
Now he's like the biggest cheerleader for this organization and he's just shredding his credibility, especially when he says, I took the word of the FBI on this.
Who would do that?
Where did podcaster Dan Bongino go that was out there railing about total personnel warfare and said it needs to be dismantled and it can't be redeemed?
It blows my mind.
alex jones
So I don't know what you're talking about.
It's a minute before.
Here it is.
dan bongino
I with our boarder worked in the Trump administration.
You've seen it all and you've been a real patriot to the country.
A lot of people out there in my audience are definitely afraid that once we find out who this person may have been working with, we don't know that and I don't want to get ahead of anything, but there's a lot of suspicious factors here.
How did a 20-year-old manage to clean his digital footprint forever?
It seems odd.
Like we haven't seen any leaks at all.
You know, I said to the audience as an old investigator myself, if this was a 60-year-old guy, you could say to yourself, okay, you know, he grew up most of his life without social media.
Maybe by his 40s, he decides he's going to plan an assassination in 20 years.
All right, crazy story, whatever.
And he says, I'm going to go dark on social media.
A 20-year-old?
So you're telling me at 13 years old when every kid's on Snapchat, this kid decides he's going to commit an assassination seven years later and has no detectable social media footprint ever.
It is, it is so beyond calculating in the normal brain.
Something's up.
alex jones
So let's unpack this.
This is him before Trump gets in.
Yep.
And here's him after they try to kill Trump in Congress with Chip Roy.
And so we know the deputy director was doing the cover up, the stand down of the Secret Service.
We know all that.
And so it's not one clip, it's two clips.
He comes out and says, oh, no, there's a cover-up.
I can't believe he doesn't have metadata or doesn't have internet data.
Now we learn it was given to them by whistleblowers that have now gone to Congress, who my reporters have talked to with their lawyers today.
So they're telling us, just like, Cash, we should get rid of the FBI main building in DC.
We should turn it into a museum.
shouldn't be involved in all this investigations and intelligence.
Then he says, it told you, Aberdeen, shut down all your intelligence.
I only do intelligence.
It's all 180s.
And then now there's another clip.
And then now suddenly we know they were given this and didn't want it.
So to me, you could say who killed, who tried to kill Trump?
Who was Thomas Crooks all day long?
We have a clear cover-up here, folks.
Here's Mongino to Congress.
chip roy
And importantly, that his digital footprint is completely MIA, that his digital footprint is missing.
And that how can a 20-year-old in today's time have no digital footprint?
So do you have any thoughts on that?
Any comments on that?
And that'll be my last question.
dan bongino
Well, four years of doing protective intelligence investigations with the Secret Service interviewed probably hundreds of people who have credibly threatened our protectees.
I've never seen anything like it.
If you would have told me it was a 60-year-old guy who lived most of his life without a computer for the last 10 years had been planning this, hard to believe, but digestible.
You're telling me a 20-year-old kid who's grown up in the digital era figured this out when he was, what, 13 to never get an online presence?
We've seen nothing.
Nothing.
We're now six weeks in.
There's not a Facebook photo.
You know, it's incredible.
We know every single thing about these shooting incidents when there's a political narrative to be had by the media and the other side.
We do.
You know who the high school girlfriend was.
Sadly, you know everything about these people.
We know nothing about this guy.
And sophisticated explosives, we have this massive law enforcement bureaucracy.
No one's got him with an online search history at a library saying, how do I build this?
He's 20 years old.
It just, again, it just defies logic.
I can tell you, again, four years doing these exact investigations, never, ever seen or heard anything like this in my life.
alex jones
And then six months later, he goes on Fox as the deputy director and says, trust me, there's nothing there.
And now we know they've been given it all.
I mean, this is smoking gun, not of what happened, but smoking gun cover-up.
Call servants.
Am I wrong?
kyle seraphin
Well, they wouldn't have given it to Dan.
So this is the problem.
And I think, like I said, language means something.
These guys are precise communicators, or they should be.
And I'm fairly confident that he didn't do the, he said, I'm an old investigator at one point in there.
And I heard that and I went, oh, okay.
Yeah.
You know what an investigator does?
Day one, you sit down with the file and you read it.
When you get a new case and you don't know it and you're inheriting it from somebody else and you don't have them to brief you up on it, or even if you do, don't you want to know?
alex jones
I don't say tell me about an email or tell me, I say, give me the thing.
unidentified
Right.
kyle seraphin
You tell me, fine.
You tell me what the blurb is.
Why do I care?
And then I go read all the documents.
Look, I've had new cases assigned to me that had been active for years.
When I first got into the bureau, first thing they do, they give you a bunch of garbage and you got to read them.
I had eight cases in the counterintelligence division.
I read all of them, the hundreds and hundreds of pages.
You just read through it.
You go, okay, what's what was done at this time?
Okay, what year are we in right now?
Okay, kind of like what do we do?
Okay, now here's another year.
We're going to do all the background checks.
We're going to do all the financials again.
Okay, got it.
I'm tracking the pace.
I'm tracking the structure.
I know what has been found.
I know what has been different.
If you don't know what's been done or what hasn't been done, how on earth can you make a comment about it?
You're going to take a briefing from somebody in the FBI that you don't know and theoretically don't trust because they've actually got a vested interest in hiding things from you because they're going to do the same thing they did.
And that's good enough.
alex jones
But if that's the case, these guys are massively included.
I got a briefing.
I buy it.
Right.
kyle seraphin
And there's only one way you do that.
You don't have enough information or you bought into it and you basically are completely overwhelmed.
Maybe they, you know, I don't, this is, this is not a like somebody threatened his family in their compromise scenario.
This is a person who is prideful, who thought they were ready to come in and do something and found out that the job was actually more than they could handle and all they could maybe handle is the briefs.
At the end of the day, I'm incredibly disappointed at re-listening to this because it's really, really bad.
And all of that actually goes along with some of the other stuff that's been going on this last week.
We had a, you know, a breakthrough that my buddy Steve Baker put out there in the pipe bomb case.
And what have they done?
You guys don't see this behind the scenes, but stuff behind the scenes has been an incredible effort by the FBI not to have natural curiosity.
Imagine if you had a case that you're working on, and you don't even have to be an investigator to think if you were working on something for five years and someone brought you a novel theory that had significant pieces of it that lined up.
Like the person was in the area, the person was the right height, the person had the right sort of limp and gait, the person might have the right sort of ideology to go along with it.
The person had the right build, that person is unaccounted for during that timeframe.
Wouldn't you be like, wow, I'm highly curious.
alex jones
They gave me a question.
To one of the NSA subsidiaries to run the gate biometric scan, and now they want to fire those people.
So it's not like it's not like they just said, oh, it looks like the same walk.
This used U.S. government AI systems.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, well, actually, outside of U.S. government systems, but yes, that like high-level next generation, you know, gate analysis stuff was what was being done.
alex jones
I was not saying government, the contractors are the government.
kyle seraphin
Exactly.
unidentified
Yeah.
kyle seraphin
Well, that's right.
Okay.
So all of that being the case, would you not have a natural curiosity and try to say like any answer is a good answer, no matter how, who comes up with it?
I used to have a rule on my surveillance team.
It's like, I don't care who comes up with the best plan for what we're going to do.
When we have an assignment, we're going to attack it.
If somebody has the best idea, that's the one we're going to do.
It's not about credit.
It's about mission.
And if these guys are more interested in credit and they're not interested in what the actual mission is, the end result should be the actual, you know, the thing they seek, then we're kind of screwed.
So I've got some additional things that are kind of bothering me as well.
In addition to this jet story, which we could talk about a little bit further, the jet story lines up with some actual international problems and some story that just came out of the New York Times that I had shared with me.
And even more than what they had in the New York Times story was given to me like day before yesterday.
And we had a new whistleblower come forward.
And the first thing they did was deploy Julie Kelly, the great Julie Kelly of the January 6th stuff, to go out and do just nothing but hit jobs on Kyle Seraphin.
If you guys are curious, go to her Twitter feed, go look through it.
And it's about 85%, you know, Kyle Seraphin derangement syndrome stuff.
And nothing about natural curiosity is like, can we find the answer?
If we found a pipe bomber, wouldn't you be excited about that?
Wouldn't that actually prove the thing that she's been saying for years?
alex jones
Guaranteed.
I mean, look, if you're going to go to the bottom.
kyle seraphin
He's getting it directly from Dan.
alex jones
You got to be happy.
Yeah.
You got to be happy, though.
They are all over your ass.
This is just making you bigger, more people pay attention now.
kyle seraphin
Streisand, big time.
They've got, they've made a terrible decision.
alex jones
If I was a bad guy and Kyle Sarah was at me, I would just shut up.
That's like rule number one.
These people are dumb.
I mean, I got their egos.
I mean, I'm serious.
Like, I know.
If you started after me, I'd be like, zip.
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All right, folks, I'm not a drama queen.
I want Trump to succeed.
But I told you weeks ago, his poll numbers are way down.
Now it's out everywhere.
And you've got this pipe bomber cover-up and Grassley's on it and Massey's on it in the house and reported whistleblowers being threatened by the FBI.
And then Bongino, who's the guy that goes in on anything.
I mean, I know major talk show hosts that just mentioned, yeah, there's a cover-up of Charlie Kirk, which has been confirmed that Patel had that fight with Tulsi Gabbards and said, don't look into it when that's her job.
And then Bongino calls up and flips out on people.
Well, then he calls up and flips out on Congressman Massey, sends him a letter.
And they're so scared of this pipe bombing thing.
This is a big deal.
So this is beyond a crisis at the DOJ and the FBI.
And we now know that Patel did lie in his confirmation hearing on a bunch of stuff.
They let him through because they believe he's compromised.
And so I think Trump thinks it's an embarrassment.
He's waiting to get rid of him.
I don't think he can wait very long because we want to have an FBI director.
We can back the Missouri AG, the one we're told to lined up for that.
Now brought in as the deputy, dual deputy, the first time in history with Bongino.
We heard Bongino just wants an exit out of this.
But I got to tell you, Bongino, from all my sources, is very energetic on people's asses to do the opposite of what he said before he got into power.
And so you can try to analyze what's behind it all day.
But when I see 180s, folks, and people look like deer in the headlights, it's disconcerting, actually.
I mean, this is so cartoonish.
This is so pathetic that I don't take pleasure in it.
I'm going to be 100% clear.
I need Trump to succeed.
Kyle, on the pipe bomber information, we talked over the weekend.
You said, no, no, it's real.
It's a cover-up.
It's a system protecting itself, reportedly Capitol Police, now CIA.
And then all these threats went out behind the scenes of myself and others, just even covering what was being said by Glenn Beck.
Glenn Beck's very careful about stuff he puts out.
He didn't see denials now the last weeks.
We just saw behind the scenes threats, now a crisis management center flipping out on members of Congress.
This looks pretty damn bad.
So why would the new FBI, if it is new, want to cover up what really happened on January 6th and something that would devastate the Democrats, Kyle Seraphan?
kyle seraphin
It's the same FBI.
It's like, this is the whole point.
Why would you take a briefing from people who worked at the FBI if your entire podcasting career was based on saying something otherwise?
It's really wild to watch it.
And again, I don't, I, I'm not going to opine on the on the motive because I don't know what the motive is.
I actually don't, it's, it's surprising as anything.
alex jones
No, I agree.
These people are destroying themselves in lifetime.
kyle seraphin
You're, we're watching, like, so anybody who saw the, the tweets that were put out, Bongino went on this sort of like scream, cry, you know, scorned girlfriend thing.
These are the things that I called you and you didn't call me back.
And this other kind of like nonsense.
And it's the opposite of tough guy.
It's just whining.
And he did this about Tom Massey, who just dominated.
What it did do, though, is it actually confirmed that the FBI got the notice that Massey was putting out that the FBI was looking to destroy whistleblowers.
And so I'm connected to the attorney and he's been on this program.
In fact, when I sat in your chair, I had, I interviewed Kurt Suzdak.
Kurt Suzdak coordinates pro bono for whistleblowers that want to get information to members of Congress out of the FBI.
It's not an easy thing to do.
He's a retired FBI agent.
He's also an attorney.
So that's great.
So he does that and he helped coordinate this thing.
And all we saw was an immediate, not like, great, that's good stuff.
Like, thank God people are coming forward.
They want to get the answers.
What we saw was, and I'm telling you, Julie Kelly's name only because she seems to be the right-hand woman of Dan Bongino.
I unaffectionately refer to her as the official, unofficial spokesperson of the FBI.
She goes out there and she starts calling them quote unquote whistleblowers, which is exactly what Democrats did.
And, you know, she's given like $100,000.
alex jones
I told you the story privately, but I'm literally sitting there with a top journalist and they have to wait on the interview because Bongino is chewing the producer an amount for simply saying looks like a Kirk cover-up, which is confirmed.
Like, I'm not a criminal, okay, but I can think how they think.
I can study criminology.
If I wanted to, I'd call up and kiss a journalist's ass and tell them some cover story.
I wouldn't call up and scream at them.
Like they act completely guilty.
Like this is, they've gone from, they're the whistleblowers, they're the guys that are going to clean out the Aegean stables to the like, like more aggressive than liberals were when they were in power, like with the official story.
kyle seraphin
Well, based on the story you told me and then based on what people can see now online and then the reaction last night, just and I think it was twofold.
People said, you know, they created a rapid response team for the FBI, which I think is just Dan Bongino.
And this account is just to debunk things in real time so it can be extra fast or something.
It's the same speed as all other Twitter.
alex jones
And it always tries in and everybody mobbed it.
kyle seraphin
That's it.
So it did the same thing to Tucker.
And then the second tweet they did, what they were trying to basically poke up was this crazy gal that I've had on, you've had her on to.
And we've had this like ongoing beef about it.
She basically thinks the thing she's discovered is much bigger than it is.
And she thinks that its national prominence or international sort of relevance is way higher than it actually is.
And then the FBI went and boosted that.
This is a former OnlyFans model who's now hunting down like child pornography.
I was talking to Steve Friend this morning on my podcast and he goes, he goes, just for your awareness, 100% of the child pornographers that you get an excuse from say that they were doing research on child pornography.
It's a super dangerous thing to touch.
That's why they let federal law enforcement do it.
And if you want to go out and find child pornographers, go into law enforcement.
There's actually a role for it that you can get dispensation to go find bad guys.
If you're a private researcher, you're walking on a line that's going to end up in a federal prison if they do their job.
So that's my caution.
alex jones
I'm trying to try to set us up with child porn.
I told the truth.
We're not looking at it because we're not even going to defend ourselves.
This is the FBI.
I was like, we're not touching this.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, no, it's totally radioactive stuff.
And why would you go near that if you're not, if you don't have a charter and a mandate?
I mean, they have all these safeguards that go on where people who are working on that for the FBI, they get interviewed every six months and they do like a mental check and make sure they're okay.
Because it's really damaging to see, you know, small children get destroyed and their lives be ruined.
And you're seeing it on video or something.
So I have friends that have worked in those departments for a long time.
One of my buddies was their, you know, one of their top analysts for something like eight years.
alex jones
I don't know how they do it.
kyle seraphin
And I don't know how he does it either.
He's the most even keel guy you've ever seen.
He's got little kids and he's just like super mellow.
And you must have a certain kind of grace given by God to be able to do that.
To have somebody that was just looking for attention is gross.
And that's what the FBI went out and tweeted.
So they're melting down.
We're seeing it in real time.
And this pipe bomber reaction behind the scenes, it's very similar to what you saw in front of the scenes because the whistleblower that went to Congress was sharing information about the pipe bomb investigation going back almost five years now.
And the answer should be, yeah, we want to know where we screwed up.
We're like, that's about normal humility.
And every time you do an investigation, you have certain assumptions, you have certain beliefs, and then you go and you investigate.
And as you find evidence or you have to broaden your scope, you may have to reassess what your underlying assumptions are.
alex jones
And if your underlying assumptions, I have a hunch from all my knowledge.
And a lot of times I'm right, but I don't scoop my views.
A lot of times I'm wrong.
I go with what's there.
kyle seraphin
I'm going to pull something up here because I wanted to read it.
alex jones
And you saw a couple of videos.
Yeah, go ahead.
kyle seraphin
Well, this is something I'm just going to read off.
This came from Laudermilk's summary from January of 2025.
So this was the committee that Lautermilk was putting out there.
And this is a direct quote.
One of the followers on X clipped it for me.
It says, by early February of 2021, the FBI had identified 186 phone numbers of interest derived from the FBI's analysis, from the geofense warrant they got, probably Google, and then also the tower dumps from the cellular towers.
Okay.
And then they broke down for the committee what they did.
36 of these numbers were assigned to agents and they had follow-up interviews.
98 of these were given additional investigative steps, which means they needed to find more about what it was.
Here's one for you, Alex.
51 of these numbers were identified as not needing further action because these phones belong to law enforcement officers or persons on the exclusion list.
Now, that is based on an assumption.
And the assumption is, is that somebody who's in law enforcement didn't do this thing.
Now, if you have to start broadening your scope and you have five years of goose eggs, maybe you start changing some of your underlying assumptions and say, is it possible that somebody in law enforcement was the problem?
Now, Steve Baker's subject that they've identified is someone in law enforcement and lives with someone in law enforcement, particularly the Capitol Police.
alex jones
So it's that.
Someone who shot people first on Jan Six River Bullets and testified.
kyle seraphin
And so we know was in the area, was in the area of the Capitol on that day, had proximity, lived in Falls Church.
So would have had access.
It's only about a 20-minute drive during COVID or maybe even less to get there.
And then there's some significant sort of information that leans towards this being a female, including the way that the subject spins.
And then the gate analysis is significant amounts of video of this woman on January 6th, after January 6th, before that walking around the Capitol with a right leg limp.
Can I, can I pull you to a, this is kind of going out of sequence from what I told you guys about.
alex jones
But tell us about the Washington Post article.
What is it?
kyle seraphin
So there's a, there's a Washington Post article entitled How the FBI's Massive Search for the DC Pipe Bomber Stalled.
It just came out this morning.
alex jones
Yeah, she had that much stack.
Hold on.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, you do.
So Aaron C. Davis is the writer, and he's promoting his book called Injustice.
And he and another woman from Washington Post wrote it.
But if you, if you roll down to the middle of the story, what you saw, they go through kind of like the analysis of what they did and what's going on with this subject has been named and so on and so forth.
And if you get below sort of some of these pictures, they show you some alleyway footage and this kind of thing.
You can even do, you could probably even do like a targeted search for the word gate.
And suddenly you realize last week, several Republican lawmakers latched onto a claim and they published in a conservative news outlet, The Blaze, that a quote unquote gate analysis suggested the person captured on the security videos was a former Capitol police officer.
And so that's kind of interesting.
And you say, okay, fine, that's what happened.
Then you find out that the actual investigation being done in 2021 landed them on somebody very specific.
And that person had a peculiar, what they called an odd gate, which was seen on the security footage to the point where they actually went after a gym employee.
And it says the process led to agents to a gym employee who lived in the zone that the FBI had pulled cell phones from operating the night before the attack.
The person came under further scrutiny when he initially lied to the agents about a leg injury.
alex jones
According to Legacy, let's be clear.
They're able to take gate analysis, cross-reference medical records or whatever, who has a gate problem, go to the gym employee.
But because they couldn't look at law enforcement, the AI was blocked from looking at who else had the gate.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, I don't know if they just excluded law enforcement from the beginning.
Like I said, once your basic assumptions are incorrect, but the funny thing is blocked on law enforcement.
On the phones, yeah.
And so did they also exclude any of these other things?
But the fact is, is the woman that Steve Baker has identified has a pronounced gate.
She has a right leg drag on the right side from an injury that happened while she was a professional soccer player.
alex jones
And notice they tried to say it's not true, but they're not publicly responding a week later.
Right.
kyle seraphin
And what they've tried to say is that gate analysis is not a good, is not something that people use, but we know that it is because you can actually read this story and find out that, in fact, they honed in on people based on owning a pair of shoes.
alex jones
I remember gate analysis in like 2003 that had studies of like 99%.
Now they're saying it's 94.
Did it get worse or better?
kyle seraphin
No, that this particular match because the person was wearing obscuring clothing.
But yeah, it's used in every airport in America right now as a biometric.
It's used on battlefields.
It's used by the Defense Information Systems Agency, which does all the biometrics for the Pentagon and it does it for DOD assets.
And the idea was, is, are there things about you that are not your fingerprint?
alex jones
It's not better than your fingerprint.
Like, yeah.
kyle seraphin
It's specific to the length of your different bones, which are going to be unique to you, the hip flexion that you can do, which is going to be your cumulative kind of wear and tear in the chassis.
Yeah, your length of stride, your variability and cadence, you know, and all these other kind of little things, the bend of your knee and so on.
And so if you have injuries or if you have wear and tear, if you're a certain age, if you're male and female, you move differently through time and space with a specific form and figure.
alex jones
And if you can see that, then you can measure it.
I walk like a gorilla.
kyle seraphin
It's just, it's just, you know, that's factually true.
unidentified
You do walk like a gorilla.
kyle seraphin
Everybody says, I talked to Chase the other day.
He said exactly that.
So long and short of it is, is we all have this particular gate.
And the idea that somebody would say, well, gate analysis is not something that the FBI would use or law enforcement use.
It doesn't mean it's the only thing that you would use.
But then you start evaluating.
Okay, if someone has a gate match and they were in the physical space of the, I mean, this is not like a gate match and somebody was in California.
You could throw that out.
But this person lives in Northern Virginia and works at the Capitol and was at the Capitol the next day and may have some interest in this.
alex jones
So let's move into the big issue.
How long can this last?
Where this is going?
You got all these Congress people.
I don't know.
You got a rapper reaction force set up.
What's just?
kyle seraphin
It's getting worse.
Yeah yeah, it's getting worse.
And a new thing just came out today that I think is actually going to make all of this way worse.
alex jones
Tell us about that.
kyle seraphin
So this is all fun.
So uh, PRO Publica put out a story.
I talked to the uh reporter who does it, his name Will Will Turton, and he was working with Chris Bing, and they wrote a story that said essentially four of some of the top people in the FBI and that's um Bonginho, And I'm going to, did they say Bongino and Patel?
I have to double check here.
Patel.
unidentified
Okay.
kyle seraphin
Patel granted the waiver.
Bongino and two other people.
So I think Patel also didn't get a background check in the same way.
They skipped the polygraph part of their security clearance, which is highly unusual.
And they skipped them for two people.
One's name is Nicole Rucker.
She used to work for Stephen Miller.
And so she didn't have a background check polygraph or it came back inconclusive and something weird.
So they reported on this.
And the other person is a guy named Marshall Yates.
And here's where I find that interesting.
Marshall Yates is a former congressional staffer.
And he used to work in Tom Massey's office.
And now he is the congressional liaison for the FBI.
He's the assistant director of congressional affairs.
So he's the go-between between the FBI and members of Congress.
alex jones
Why would you want a polygraph if you got something to hide?
kyle seraphin
There's no great reason for it.
I mean, polygraphs are famously a pain in the ass for anybody who's done them.
If you've ever had to sit for a poly, it's, it's not fun.
It's like a, you know, it's like getting a root canal.
You don't look forward to it.
But at the end of the day, you say what you have, you tell them your dark secrets or whatever it may be.
You just out whatever it is.
You know, you got away with a cashing a check twice or something, or maybe you walked out with a heart full of groceries and nobody ever caught you.
Whatever it is, you just say it and then you just move on.
And they don't generally care.
When I did it, I told them I used to break into buildings when I was younger and sneak into like abandoned buildings.
And they're like, dude, did you ever rob a bank?
And I was like, no.
They go, did you ever kill anybody, get away with it?
I go, no.
And they go, that's what we care about.
It's like, dude, I just told you what I did.
You asked me what I broke the law.
That's the laws I broke when I was a teenager.
alex jones
And so, you know, it's, it's not as far as my crime was stealing beer out of golf carts of 11 or 12.
And then I did sneak into abandoned buildings a few times.
kyle seraphin
It's super fun when you're a young guy.
Marshall Yates, who's now the congressional liaison for the FBI, he works at FBI.
He's an assistant director.
He's a special executive service member.
And he tells Congress what they can and can't have from the bureau.
He used to work for Tom Massey on the same committee that generated that report I was reading from.
And he was the pipe bomb expert for Tom Massey.
And he didn't get a polygraph for some reason.
alex jones
Yeah.
So they're contacting him to get intel on what Congress knows.
kyle seraphin
And he's not, he's been stonewalling them.
He's been part of the problem behind the scenes significantly.
And I've been hearing about this for literally months now.
And then the story breaks.
I think there's going to be another story that is related to that that I can't quite display yet.
But over the weekend, you guys will see there's some whistleblowers coming forward on this stuff.
Because when Tom Massey said, if you have something to share about what's going wrong in the FBI, you can reach out to Kurt Suzedak.
You can reach out to my office and we'll get you in touch and we'll get you protection.
And they actually are running top cover for the first time because the Bureau tried to go hunt these people.
We're seeing some disclosures come forward that are incredibly damaging.
alex jones
And they're trying to get the old manager that would know where the bodies are buried.
kyle seraphin
Well, you just want people that know when something is not normal if you've been doing it.
And if you got punished for asking a question, it does make you ask some more questions.
alex jones
Well, it's your 35,000-foot view.
We're trying to.
I know your view, I'm not speaking for you, but in my, I've talked before, we're trying to help Trump.
He's got to clean this up.
This crisis every week just gets worse.
I mean, where will we be in two weeks at this trajectory?
This is insane.
I mean, it's getting frenzied.
Kash Patel is a disaster.
kyle seraphin
So I gave your guys a New York Times story, and this is something that broke at the beginning of the week.
And I didn't even realize how bad it was until I got to the bottom because some of this stuff is professional incompetence and some of it goes to a deeper problem of personality.
So 35,000 foot view.
I think Kash Patel loves being FBI director.
I think he does it because it makes him feel good about himself.
And he's fully affirmed that he's one of the cool guys right now.
And he acts like a complete dickhead when he does it.
And I'm just going to be very blunt about that.
Bondino, on the other side, I think he hates the job.
I think he's miserable.
And I don't think that he's going to be able to do it.
I don't think he's good at it.
And so he's destroying his credibility just by proxy to this other guy who's acting like a buffoon.
alex jones
Well, yeah, who's getting every FBI person and scream at journalists that just question that's what happens when your reputation is going into flames?
kyle seraphin
Imagine you spent a decade building up a media persona and you were out there, you know, set yourself up.
I can't imagine he's happy with the way that Patel has just left him with all the work and is screwing it up.
But this New York Times story, I want to, I want to skip to the end of it.
I'll kind of give you guys the quick and dirty.
Patel flew to London and he had a meeting, which is common with what's called the five eyes partners.
So there are five closest intelligence partners.
alex jones
You're saying you don't broke a pledge.
kyle seraphin
What the pledge was is apparently they had a person that MI5 was used to working with and really liked.
And they ended up supplanting that person.
I believe that was probably the League at in London.
That's the FBI's legal attache.
And I'm not 100% sure on that.
So don't hold me to it, folks, but I believe that's the position.
And they didn't get rid of that person.
They put in a new person.
And what I found out is that the person that they got put in there is a woman named Judy, what's her name?
Judy Cohen, Jody Cohen, sorry, J-O-D-I Cohen.
And Jodi used to be the special agent in charge of the field office in Boston, was apparently asked a favor.
And she said, sure, director, I'll do you the favor, but I want League at London.
And I know that because she was bragging to people in human resources.
She was bragging to people that were in the sport crew and in the, you know, like she was just bragging to everybody.
Kash Patel asked me a favor and I did it, but I got League at London out of it.
And that's why I have to have all this transfer paperwork because I'm moving to London.
So she got in there.
But it's even worse than that because that's just kind of like crappy, you know, bad managerial tactics.
He showed up to meet with MI5, a guy named Ken McClellan, who's the head of MI5, who's a Scotsman and is apparently very reserved and had a good relationship with Chris Ray, which doesn't say one thing or another about you.
But you can imagine the Brits in the Intel services, they wear suits.
They're professionals.
They show up.
I've worked with them before.
They're very dapper looking people for whatever it's worth.
Kash Patel showed up in a hoodie and he showed up with a trucker hat on.
And he wouldn't let his agents that were his bodyguards like remove their weapons because even though it's against British law, he was just flexing on these people.
And then the craziest thing is he brought his girlfriend, who's the one who's been doing all these lawsuits on the jet to London.
And I'm told that she actually went into the meetings in MI5.
alex jones
So it's a total clown show.
We're classified meetings.
kyle seraphin
It's insane.
alex jones
Yeah.
kyle seraphin
What do you like?
You have a non-governmental employee.
Like imagine if I wanted to bring my wife on a case for an interview of something sensitive.
When would that happen?
Never.
It's just, it's insane.
They always tell you.
alex jones
It's like ultra unprofessional.
kyle seraphin
But it's a great flex if you want to show your girlfriend how cool you are because you're not married and you're in your late 40s and heads of the national branches with your girlfriend.
I'm told that they actually told him, like, hey, we dress like professionals here.
And apparently Cash has shrugged it off and kind of big timed him.
So he's doing this kind of Donald Trump routine, but he's more like Vladimir Zelensky, as far as I can tell.
He's shown up inappropriately.
alex jones
He just, he doesn't really seem a power is he's so oblivious to the train wreck he is.
That's kind of the superpower that he's so stupid.
Not even stupid, I guess.
Arrogant?
What's the word for it?
kyle seraphin
Yeah, I call him kind of like a, like a Timu Trump.
You know, he's like a knockoff version.
He sees that Donald Trump does it and it's effective.
alex jones
And so he's like, let me ask you this.
And he used to be your, talk to you all the time.
Then he threw out of the bus.
How does Trump extricate himself out of this?
I mean, what's the exit strategy here?
And then, of course, you've been sued by Kash Patel's girlfriend now through his law firm.
Now, nothing on you, but the Lodge of Schaber, they say he didn't even say she's an agent of Israel, but he's criticized Israel.
So we are.
It's like a joke.
This has been a big scandal.
People totally turned on him over this.
Even the left's asking, why does this make him mad?
Bigger than the Jet.
Why would he think I'll shut people up?
They post a, I mean, well, he sued you.
He sued Elijah Schaefer.
What's happening there?
kyle seraphin
Yeah.
Just a complete disconnect from reality.
Like someone's not telling him how awful it looks, or he doesn't seem to care.
Like he thinks that he's, you know, I'm the FBI director, so I can do whatever I want.
I, I lied to Congress and got into this spot.
And so therefore I'm untouchable.
You know, if I'm Donald Trump, I acknowledge with a humili, you know, sort of humility.
The FBI, the DOJ has always been Donald Trump's weakness.
It was his first turn as well.
So just get rid of him.
Just cut bait now, sooner than later.
That would be the right answer.
It's like, well, I agree with that.
I thought this guy's going to be a little bit more.
alex jones
So what's he going to do next on this trajectory of self-destruction blindly?
I mean, again, I know you don't know about yourself, but now Elijah Schaefer, I'm sure you've read the suit, literally go, he didn't say she's an Israeli.
kyle seraphin
It was a picture.
He posted a picture in context that they decided was implied.
And so it's a wordless tweet that got him a lawsuit.
alex jones
So obviously that means more lawsuits are coming.
kyle seraphin
I would imagine so.
I don't know who's going to get them, but anybody, I mean, Tim Dylan went out the other day and did something and made a song and made fun of her and that.
And so maybe there'll be a lawsuit from the song.
And I just don't know.
I mean, but as you said, the left is now picking it up.
I watched guys over at the bulk where they picked up and they ran and they were like, this lady and her litigious nature is driving MAGA people nuts.
And they're mad at Kash Patel because she's suing conservatives.
She's suing people that hold the same values in theory.
You know, this girl supposedly represents some sort of foundation that is supposed to make America strong again.
And you're suing grown men with wives and children.
And here you are, you're 27, you got no kids, and you're in a dating relationship with a man twice your age.
alex jones
Yeah, but you're a public figure and you're suing people that he didn't.
I posted a picture of you.
kyle seraphin
Yeah.
And you posted the original picture.
So all of that is real crazy.
And I see it everywhere.
Like you said, Strystan effect.
I've just been sort of laughing about how often it pops up in my feed now.
It is nonstop.
And in the meantime, they've got this other thing that's going on.
They basically have a perfect storm.
They had a jet scenario where we exposed that he was using the jet worse than Chris Ray, by the way.
John Solomon went out to run cover for Kash Patel and he said that Jim Comey used the jet 2.58 times per week.
Kash Patel uses it 2.48 times per week.
And Chris Ray used it 1.98 times per week.
So Kash Patel, who called for it grounding, has actually used it more than Chris Ray by about 25%.
alex jones
What's the other issue?
kyle seraphin
So the jet thing is one.
The pipe bomber scenario is another.
And the rumblings behind that.
And then lastly, now you've got the Crooks thing.
And I think there's going to be more piled on the Crooks thing very shortly.
And so if all that's the case, it's like, you guys look utterly incompetent.
You're making a fool of the guy that put you there.
So he needs to step up and just say, hey, you know, dad's had enough this nonsense.
You guys are gone.
You know, promote him to the, whatever, to the ambassador for some country, Micronesia.
Get him out of here.
alex jones
Here's the postal inspector for Antarctica.
All right, brother, we appreciate you.
You got your own podcast weekday mornings.
I watch it a lot.
Thank you so much.
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