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judge andrew napolitano
The government fears Alex Jones, who has the largest audience in the country, bigger than any of the networks, the biggest megaphone in the country.
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The deep state hates Alex Jones with a vengeance.
Alex Jones is the most extraordinary person I've ever met.
alex jones
It's Wednesday.
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We just caught the globals with their pants out.
InfoWars, tomorrow's news, today.
alex jones
Well, we're now entering the 282nd day of the return of the American Republic and the fireworks, and the sparks are aflying.
And we just had the ultra-massive hurricane smash into Jamaica.
And then Cuba, Haiti, the Dominican Republic, that island formerly known as Hispaniola.
A lot of death, a lot of destruction.
Certainly pray for those folks.
Monster Melissa Direct hit Jamaica, hell bit in 185 miles an hour, mass destruction, storm of the century.
And this time it's not hype.
We've actually, since the late 90s, had the slowest hurricane seasons on record, but the media still hyped it up and lied about that.
Said, oh, global warming, record storms.
No, 185 miles an hour is a typhoon.
Now, typhoons are in the Pacific and they turn the other direction, just like toilets turn the other direction.
Water going into a whirlpool all deals with the gravity and the earth spin.
But typhoons get up to 185.
I've never heard of a hurricane hitting 185.
And that was picked up by censors all over the place.
So that is not hype.
That is the big MACDI kahuna.
Now, it's broken up quite a bit and slowed down, but pray for those folks because that is a devastator.
We've got more of the footage of the carnage and all of it, unfortunately, coming up.
But yesterday afternoon, our great morning host, investigative journalist, Fox News, you name it, Breonna Morello, is calling Rob Dew up because she works here early in the morning and leaves by about one.
And she says, hey, I just got this from the DOJ and I was just getting off air.
It hasn't broke yet.
And I just got this from Jim Jordan's committee via Senator Grassley's committee.
And I gave it to her literally first.
That's how dialed in she is.
And Alex is listed in here in Arctic Frost.
Remember, it was the eight senators and members of Congress.
Now it's more senators.
But here's what we did.
I talked to a couple different FBI sources last night and this morning off all the codes that are in this huge hundreds of pages of documents.
This is just some of it.
And it's all scrambled with codes and blacked out.
But FBI agents that are in key areas, because it's all compartmentalized, know how to read what these mean.
So I was told that it meant it was a giant dragnet, not just January 6th stuff, or question the election.
Oh, how illegal is that?
Because they knew we were innocent of, you know, actually trying to attack the Capitol.
They were the ones that did it.
The Fed surrection.
The Democrat staged a false flag.
No, it was for stocks and bonds and money laundering and gambling and drugs.
And it's everything.
They sent these orders out under Jack Smith to all the FBI agents, all the FBI-filled offices of the country.
And they said, find crime.
And in my case, this is the one case we know because I don't know about all these other individuals.
They did not have a warrant for the contents of my, quote, cell phone that is listed they have here.
Now, we know how they got it through their Just Department Democrat Party lawsuits against me and the rest of it, and then handing that over to Smith.
But the point is, is that this broke yesterday through Infowars reporter and Pentagon reporter, Brianna Morello.
Then about an hour later, Jim Jordan indeed released some of the documents and all the documents last night, or all in the new tranche.
And it is a giant illegal dragnet against members of the Senate, the House, Trump's orbit, journalists, you name it.
Just scandal of scandals.
Absolutely illegal.
It'd make Richard Nixon blush.
We'll be right back.
Stay with us.
Welcome to this Wednesday, October 29th, 2025 Transmission.
I am your embattled host, Alex Jones.
This broadcast is going to be particularly historic.
Overhead shot, please.
Look at who we have as guests today.
Investigative journalist Breonna Morello with the latest insanely important groundbreaking bombshell developments in Arctic Frost.
Nick Fuentez on all the big world developments taking place and the aftermath of his gigantic Tucker Carlson interview.
Constitutional lawyer Robert Barnes on the waterfront.
FBI whistleblower Kyle Serafin.
Roger Stone.
That's quite the lineup today.
Now, as usual, and I get it, they're very busy.
The House Judiciary Committee and the Senate Judiciary Committee, Grassley, have come out and said, oh, it's terrible.
Arctic Frost, here's all these new documents we're releasing.
Hundreds of pages.
We have them around here.
Turns out they were spying on Trump's law firms, people in Trump's orbit, in some cases without warrants, in my case.
And then why is it up to us to actually go read the codes in here of what the investigation meant and break this?
I'm not saying, oh, we're so smart.
No, it's the opposite.
It's frightening.
It's worse than what they're saying.
It's not just a J6 dragnet to find us doing something wrong on J6 that, of course, didn't happen, so they could never charge us.
It is a dragnet for stocks and bonds and gambling and money laundering and anything they could find to all the FBI field offices of the country.
That's exactly what Ed Martin months ago said is that Jack Smith wanted to put thousands of Trump supporters in prison.
But obviously, because him being in the Justice Department, they couldn't release that information.
It had to go through Congress, and now we're getting it.
And of course, Ed Martin is all over the document, Steve Mannon, myself.
But so far, and I'm sure there's others, I just don't know the particular details.
I am the only person enlisted here out of 150, and I'm in the main top 40, that are the main targets, score of the document, where there was no warrant to obtain not just phone records, but my text messages and more.
And I remember fighting their subpoena on the J6 fake committee that was ruled to be fake and illegal.
They had to pardon themselves.
They committed all those crimes, falsifying evidence, rigging testimony, all that.
I told them back when I testified to him.
So I'm going to answer your questions.
Taking the fifth, not because of self-incrimination, but because you're criminals.
I looked at Adam Schiff and I said, you're a crook.
You've already been caught faking emails and witness tampering.
I said, you're going to go to prison.
Notice they destroyed my testimony and 90 plus percent of the other testimonies.
They didn't like what I said.
They didn't like it one bit.
I told them, you're crooks.
You're behind the attack.
And of course, it's all come out.
They were.
Nancy Pelosi, all of them.
So I want to go through some of this.
I'm not going to spend the whole day on it, but I'm going to pop in with Brianna Morello on it, who broke it, was first to get it.
And then I'm going to speak some with Kyle Serafin on it, who's an expert, former FBI agent, understands this.
But I called him to get his expertise on this.
He said, listen, that's important.
I'm happy to.
But he said, this other thing that's going on, this is what you need to know.
They got rid of the one FBI agent who was at one level over Arctic Frost.
But his boss is still there.
So we're going to spotlight this creature here today.
And then Roger Stone, so much more.
Nick Fuentes coming up next hour.
This is a broadcast you don't want to miss.
And remember, you're the Paul Revere's.
So be sure and share the live feed from Rumble on the Alex Jones Network feed.
Share the live feed from Rel Alex Jones on X, the backup feed at AJN Live for Alex Jones Network at AJN Live.
We'll put that link up on screen for you at AJN Live on X. And know that they have appointed a month ago the receiver from the state court.
And the receiver was here two weeks ago and here most of the day yesterday and is deciding when to close the doors.
So I don't have any details of that.
I don't know.
He said it could be, you know, two weeks from now is the quickest.
Christmas the latest.
What a Christmas present.
And I don't blame the receiver and the thing.
He's not the corrupt judge.
He's not the kangaroo court.
He's just doing his job.
I'm not going to be mean about that.
Plus, it's like talking to a robot.
So literally, the guy's like a robot, nothing against him.
I'm just like talking to a little robot.
So I'm just, that's where we are.
We fought.
It exposed the corruption of the system.
We're going to go on and fight even harder.
But this is all the Democrat Party, DOJ, that ran this, that controlled this, that did all this.
And they tried to use the bankruptcy process to do a fake auction to sell it to Bloomberg and the Onion and shut us down and all the rest of their crap.
And I can tell you, though, you add this new Arctic Frost information where you have Jack Smith involved with the Sybil case against me and the Democrat Party.
The DOJ was running.
We caught them.
That's how they got the cell phone, which they couldn't get by subpoena because I beat it.
There was nothing in the phone.
Didn't do anything wrong, but I just as a matter of conscience and a matter of honor, I didn't comply with them.
And so I did tell them, if you want me to sign a sworn statement, my lawyers reviewed my phone from that year.
And that there's nothing there.
And I haven't said, if you just want me to pull things that say J6, I said, I might comply with that because there's nothing there.
We didn't do anything.
Oh, us trying to stop people going in the building, all the rest of it.
But I said, no, you're not getting my whole phone and my sources.
It's not happening.
They're like, well, we're going to indict you then.
And they did indict me in D.C. Even the Washington Post reported this a few years ago.
And then Merrick Garland said it's too political and killed it.
Not that he's my buddy.
It was in the Washington Post that, well, he was like, well, Jones is up there on top of truck.
It wasn't a truck.
It was a pile of chairs saying, don't go in the building.
And they killed my indictment.
So that's how intense and how crazy and how just out of control all of this has been.
And the only reason I'm still alive or on air and out in prison is because of your support and your prayer.
And of course, in the final equation, God.
So I'm very, very thankful for all of your prayer, your word of mouth, and your support because we're all in this together.
But it's not just the FBI agents I talked to.
And you can hand put in these codes and find this yourself.
You know, the codes, most of it's blacked out, the latest Arctic frost stuff.
See about 60%.
Still a lot there, though.
But you feed it into ChatGPT and say, what are these codes?
What does this say?
And ChatGPT tells you mass dragnet for any crime of any type, not related.
Alex Jones targeted politically.
Alex Jones innocent.
I mean, it's just crazy to have Grock and Chat GPT saying that.
Because what's nuts is I'm talking to FBI agents.
They're telling me the same thing.
And they're just beginning to process it.
And you can shove it in the computer and it tells you this stuff.
Now, if you ask ChatGPT who George Washington was, it'll show you, at least it used to, a black man.
So it's got its political correctness.
And so does Gemini and Google, but still amazing when it's not being tainted.
So this is beyond a scandal.
And then you've got the auto-pin on top of that on a silver platter, the absolute corruption.
Most of the cabinet officials wouldn't even see Biden, but once a month or so, every few weeks, you had a committee.
That's why Stone's coming on.
He first, we played it a few months ago.
The archivists found it right when Biden was president-elect.
Roger said, from my sources, they got a alternate White House, which they admit they had, headquarters for Obama about a mile and a half from the White House.
And they've got a committee that's going to run everything by auto pin.
And he had that from inside.
And now years later, we have the chief of staff going, yeah, I don't want to go to prison.
Yeah, I was getting $4 million bonuses if I did this.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
We just would go to the committee and decide what bills to sign and what executive orders.
And then this committee of Hillary Clinton and Obama and Jill Biden and a few other chief aides.
And sometimes you wouldn't be able to get Obama or Hillary on the phone.
So their aides would just decide.
Turns out two signatures of Biden in the record have been found to not be auto pens.
So this was an illegitimate coup d'etat.
Well, yeah, they stole the 2020 election.
That's all been proven.
Tried to put you in jail if you questioned it or investigate it.
Ran the hoax over and over again that, oh, no evidence ever found.
None of the courts would hear the evidence.
Bill Barr was running around behind Trump's back, making sure they didn't.
So it's been delivered to them on a silver platter.
So here's Jim Jordan speaking a little bit about how wider this Arctic Frost dragnet was.
He's talking about how wide the dragnet was, but it was a dragnet for any crime.
And again, the massive takeaway is hundreds of Republicans targeted patriots, people that the bad guys know are hardcore.
They can't be bought off, can't be intimidated.
I mean, it is a badge of honor to be listed.
I mean, and to always be on all the list.
I mean, it's just, but I mean, that's what I signed on for.
I said 30 years ago, I want to be like John Hancock.
I'm signing it big and bold, not because I'm looking for trouble, but if you're going to sign your own potential death warrant, why not sign it big and bold?
If you're going to go, go hard.
Well, the universe works.
God doesn't like cowards, folks.
And so my problem is I don't have fear anymore.
I had a little bit of fear when I was a little child of watching a monster movie over your neighbor's house.
I remember being like eight years old when cable first came out and we didn't have cable, the neighborhood cable.
And I'm watching Alien over there with the babysitter.
I'm just like, this is scary as hell.
And then, like, I saw the thing a few years later, and we had a Labrador Triever in the movie, the aliens taking over the Husky, and it kind of transformed him.
We're like, look at the dog at the end of my bed who I love.
I'm like, you're not going to turn into a monster, are you?
But I haven't had fear since I was about 10 years old of any really topics.
It's actually kind of a problem for me because it's good to have a little fear to be on your toes.
But now I just have focus and anger and dedication and anger that I'm not strong enough, angry that I get run out of energy, frustrated that I can't crush the enemy better.
Now, I still have fear at the edge of a cliff or whatever.
They have this awesome place in Big Bend in the park called The Window, and you hike about three miles down, and it's this opening all carved by the water and wind, all like solid granite, marble-like.
You can get right up to the edge and just put your feet down.
They'd be hanging out over that thing.
And that'll give you the willies.
But I'm not saying, oh, I'm tough.
I don't have fear.
I have resistance to failure, resistance to being a slave.
It's worse than fear.
I become disgusted and my brain feels like an ashtray or something.
I feel dirty.
I feel pathetic.
I kind of like fear compared to that feeling.
Instead of just like electricity shooting through my brain, just get you all the time.
I sleep at night.
When I get up in the morning, it's just fight, fight, fight, fight.
Then I see other people that don't even seem to be awake.
I feel sorry for them, but I'm digressing and I'm going to stop preaching.
So here's a clip from Jim Jordan.
Then there's another one.
Representative James Comer demands Pam Bondi take steps to invalidate all of Joe Biden's pardons and executive orders signed by AutoPen because under the U.S. law, it's illegal.
You can delegate that, I agree with this law.
I'm on a helicopter using auto pin.
And they had to create a note of it when it was said, when it was done, and that's attached to it.
You can't just say, oh, I'm at the beach.
I don't even know who I am.
You guys do whatever you want.
They admit it was a committee.
We didn't elect that committee.
We didn't elect him either.
But this is cut and dry.
Here's both the clips.
jim jordan
Then with Jack Smith, what we've learned is it was much broader, much more expansive than we ever thought.
And remember, this is the same Jack Smith who put the gag order on President Trump, who raided his home.
This is the same Jack Smith whose two deputies came in front of our committee and took the fifth 71 and 73 times, respectively.
This is the same Jack Smith, who we already know spied on eight United States senators.
Now we learn all this.
And this is why we want Jack Smith in front of our committee in a deposition format after we get the documents.
And we can ask him some of the same questions we ask his deputies that they took the fifth two.
Like a simple question.
Was this a political operation you guys are running against President Trump?
I exercised my Fifth Amendment liberties.
How many other members of Congress did you spy on?
I exercised my Fifth Amendment liberties.
Those are the kind of questions we want to ask Jack Smith and see what kind of answers we get from the guy who ran this whole operation.
james comer
Yes, and I think that the DOJ needs to take this and run.
John, we've handed this to Pam Bondi on a silver platter.
We've done all the heavy lifting.
We've done the depositions.
We've combed through the emails.
I mean, this is the hard, tedious work of an investigation.
Now it's up to her to bring these people in.
If there's anything in the report that's inaccurate, if there's anything in the deposition that we reported that are mischaracterized, now here's your opportunity to try to defend the other position.
If not, then the report is 100% accurate and the pardons need to be declared null and void immediately.
I would go further, but now this is me, and I would hold some of these people accountable for misrepresenting the president's health and for abusing their power as a bureaucrat in the White House that was essentially forging the president's name on pardons.
I mean, you could ask a lot of questions.
I know some of the people that were pardoned from Kentucky, these are wealthy Democrat donors.
We heard from Jeff Zayat that Hunter Biden was in the room where the decision-making was taking place on the pardons.
Look, I don't think we need to say any more on this show about Hunter Biden being in the room with pardons when people have the potential to maybe be paying for pardons.
We didn't go that route.
We just tried to look, investigate the autopen and the president's health and mental fitness.
But I think the Department of Justice could go a lot further.
I mean, to have Hunter Biden in the room talking about any pardons, I mean, that's pretty bad in itself.
But a guy that we proved, John, and you all have reported on many times, was taking money from our adversaries around the world, peddling access for his father's position as vice president of the United States, having him in the room when you're issuing thousands of pardons with the Autopen.
I mean, that's suspicious in itself.
jesse watters
Have you ever heard of a signing bonus or a performance bonus?
If the president wins re-election, his advisor gets a check for $4 mil?
josh hawley
Yeah, it's outrageous, Jesse, but it really does raise the question, who was making the money here?
Because here's the thing I notice about Comer's report.
Hunter Biden's in a bunch of these meetings.
Now, Hunter Biden doesn't go anywhere where there's not money involved.
So I just want to know, like, how many Hunter Biden paintings, how many masterpieces did Anthony Fauci have to buy in order to get his pardon?
What about Liz Cheney?
Like, what did she have to pony up in order to get her pardon?
I mean, you know that there's an angle on this thing.
Follow the money.
Somebody's making a lot of money here.
alex jones
All right, ladies and gentlemen.
Thank you again for being here with us today.
Remember, you're the Paul Revere, share the live feeds, tell folks about the local radio stations, tell those you share the feeds with to share it, tell them to share it with those they share it because that creates the chain reaction, which is a big deal, the biggest deal.
Now, I'm going to go to break here in a few minutes, and I'm going to come and get it into the actual documents of the new Arctic Frost information.
This is the coup d'état, another big piece of it against America.
This is the illegal dragnet.
This is the persecution.
And this is the entire FBI turned loose with literal bounties to put us all in prison, including yours truly, and to find any crime.
And they couldn't find anything.
Just like they could never get any Trump official, even low-level, to take money from the Russians.
They tried to get me to take money from the Russians, and I wouldn't report it to the FBI because it was the FBI and CIA doing it.
And that's a sealed piece of information.
The FBI knows about it because we went in there and we told them, stop it.
So this is terrorism against the people.
But they couldn't find one Trump defender, talk show host, lawyer, administration official to be unpatriotic.
They offered me $3 million.
I said, I know this is a setup right there on the spot.
They were shaking.
And they couldn't find one person in the Trump administration to do the same thing.
They even used sex ops, hot chicks on people.
Not even a piece of hot ass could get people to sell up.
But with the Democrats, just wall-to-wall criminal activity.
In the old days, Republicans maybe committed about 10% of the crime.
It was here and there.
It was usually because they were pitos.
Now the new Republican Party, 98% clean.
You got Lindsey Graham with his fat war foundations and gets a bunch of USAI money.
There's a few others.
Mitch McConnell, super corrupt, ChiCom agent with his wife.
The justice is, you know, catching up to them and her sister.
But this is a new sheriff in town.
And the Democrats are totally evil and corrupt, other than like Fetterman who's smart enough to jump ship and a few others.
I'd say they're not 98% corrupt.
And the Republicans are 98% not corrupt, but about 50% wimps.
About half of them are still wimps.
I'll take, though, that over the Democrats.
And we're going to continue to reform the Republican Party.
So what I'm telling you is I need your support.
When you support me, you support your own future, your own rights, your own liberties.
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And it's great to have her here at Breonna Morello on X. And let me tell you, this lady has got the contacts.
She broke yesterday, an hour and a half before the Judiciary Committee released the information, Jim Jordan, one of the biggest bombshells yet.
And there's been so many from Tulsi Gabbard's and from these committees, both Rassley's committee in the Senate and Jordan's committee in the House of Arctic Frost and Cross for Hurricane, but now giant hundreds of pages of Arctic Frost.
Jim Jordan committee released this with Jack Smith, not just going after lawyers and people involved questioning the election, which is totally legal, but going after Steve Bannon, people like Ed Martin, people like yours truly without a warrant, getting my cell phone contents.
And now we fed this into Chat GPT.
I also checked with two FBI agents because so much of it's blacked out.
The codes, though, tell you what it is.
They threw the kitchen sink.
This was money laundering investigations, gambling investigations.
This was insider trading investigations.
This was FBI field officers nationwide told, don't look at January 6th.
They knew they'd staged it.
They knew we didn't do it.
It was find something on them.
And they came up with, again, zero, just like RussiaGate.
They have got a real problem with Trump's Republican Party because you may have some cowards, you may have some dummies in there, but I mean, you know, you got Jasmine Crockett just got caught with secret stock portfolios.
She never declared that she's still running.
Felonies out the ass.
I mean, that's just who they are.
And they keep thinking like, oh, Trump, you're involved in mortgage fraud.
Meanwhile, Letitia James is a master of it.
So, Breonna Morellos, thank you so much for being here.
I want to get your take and perspective on this.
I'm going to show what ChatGPT and Grok both said when we fed this document through it today.
Again, I checked with humans first, and I want to see what they said.
And the AI said the same thing.
This was a giant dragnet looking for everything, including the kitchen sink, and they found nothing.
breanna morello
Yeah, they found nothing.
And they were accusing those within the Trump administration and close Trump allies of being criminals when, in fact, that wasn't the case.
They could have made anything stick.
One would have thought it would have been something like these charges that they were trying to bring about, but they weren't able to do just that.
A lot of these names that were dropped in the Arctic Frost document dump that came from the Judiciary House Committee yesterday, Chairman Jim Jordan's drop yesterday, outline everything we've kind of already heard about so far, but we're learning more about what Arctic Frost was doing, who it was targeting specifically.
alex jones
We're learning it was much wider.
breanna morello
It was much, much wider.
Potentially 111 new names of people they were trying to go after.
I even saw Harmie Dylan, her law firm, was wrapped up into this as well.
A lot of these individuals were getting their financial records grabbed up by this so-called special prosecutor.
Now, interesting enough, Alex, your name was dropped in this.
And I think that's the key point to this.
I talked about it on my show.
Barack Obama, when he was occupying the White House, he targeted journalists to find out who their sources were whenever they were covering something.
alex jones
Well, they say Alex Jones's cell phone contents.
breanna morello
Yes.
alex jones
Target.
It's all a target system.
breanna morello
Correct.
And we're going to find out more about that.
Specifically, what did they send over?
I look forward to digging into that as well.
But it's about, well, were they trying to target your sources?
Were you working on a story and they wanted to see who was Alex Jones speaking to?
Because again, they went around very creatively.
alex jones
Well, I know they tried to subpoena it.
There was nothing to hide, but I checked actually yesterday.
We spent over 20,000.
It took lawyers back and forth hearings in D.C. $20 plus thousand dollars to beat the subpoena.
And I said, because I'm not giving them.
It's not, you know, because they wanted the whole thing.
And I said, no.
So they just somehow got it.
breanna morello
Well, Alex, I actually, and this is a little off topic.
I had the same feeling when I was working for a company and they were being sued by an election systems company.
And they were asking all of us to hand over our personal devices so that they could make forensic copies.
Now, I didn't do so.
And I went about getting an attorney to make sure I didn't have to do so.
But that's what they do.
They do just this.
They try to go about obtaining your records and to bring it into the federal government.
That's what always my gut feeling was on this front.
alex jones
These big Democrat Party law firms, Paul Weiss, all of them, they use other civil cases to vacuum everything up, then they hand it over to the DOJ illegally.
breanna morello
Yeah, that's what they do.
alex jones
Total civil rights violation.
breanna morello
Total civil rights violation.
You can't even defend yourself at that point.
You can't even say, hold on a second, I don't want them getting access to that.
Let me try to put an end to it.
Now, we see this as it was outlined throughout.
Let me just drop some names that popped up in yesterday's document, dump, by the way.
It was Mark Meadows, Steve Bannon, Scott Perry, Rudy Giuliani, Jeff Clark, John Eastman.
And then there were other potentials, like you mentioned, Ed Martin, Jeff Rosen, Bernard Carrick, who sadly is no longer with us.
They were all listed in this new document, dump as well.
alex jones
That's the former New York police commissioner.
breanna morello
Yes, and he was working hand in hand with Rudy Giuliani during their state-to-state election challenge back in 2020.
So I'm sure it had to do with that.
They weren't happy that Rudy Giuliani was hired by the president to go out there and try to defend him on his election stance and all of this.
And Bernie Carrick was by their side and all that.
So that's what they were doing.
They were going after the attorneys.
And this is just not about President Trump.
Again, I want to make this a bigger picture too.
Yes, this was a wide net that they were trying to cast here, but they want to make sure moving forward that if you ever have, as a candidate, want to challenge an election, that you will never find a lawyer willing to do just that.
alex jones
Well, Norm Eisen and all of them when Trump got re-elected said, any lawyers work for Trump, anybody, we're going to take your license and put you in prison when we're back in.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
So they're openly like thugs.
Hey, you Americans, you sit down and you shut up or it's over for you.
unidentified
Yeah.
breanna morello
And they did just that.
I mean, they sadly have bankrupted Rudy Giuliani, and that is just upsetting.
I mean, they even went after his World Series Yankee rings.
I mean, this is the law fair that's unbearable.
And so many people are fighting Ibeka on this front.
But again, it just goes to the great length that they went to.
Now, the key point now that we're learning about all of this is how the special prosecutor's office was also utilizing the FBI field offices.
There were several interviews that were conducted by the field offices.
Now, when you're a special prosecutor, you're not supposed to be doing that.
You're supposed to be handling all that on your own.
But they were, again, using the FBI at their fingertips and they were using it quite freely.
This did cost taxpayers, though, a chunk of change.
For 40 interviews that were conducted, it cost Americans about, well, well over $16,000.
So that's where some of your money went to, of course.
It just highlights the fact that they were doing all this.
Now, I want to also highlight Jeff Clark's case because Jeff Clark was working over the DOJ.
He was working under Bill Barr.
He ran two divisions.
He simply was well aware there were election fraud tips coming in and simply wanted to see if the president wanted them to investigate those.
And they went after him.
He was one of the co-conspirators indicted in Fulton County, I believe.
He is also somebody who received an FBI raid.
They tried to embarrass him by pulling him out of his home.
They did so much to this man.
He's even, they're still trying to go after him through disbarring him in Washington, D.C. as well.
But this document clears him as well because it says that there was a letter that was suggested to potentially go to Georgia, which outlined the alleged election fraud that they had outlined, and that President Trump didn't actually want him to send that letter and stopped it there.
So again, he was listed as a co-defendant, I should say, in that Fulton County case.
They knew all along that Jeff Clark never sent that letter and he wasn't accused of any actual crimes, but they still went after him.
They're still going after him today.
alex jones
Well, here's just a microcosm.
And I'm riding myself into this.
I'm not like Hunter S Thompson where he did it on purpose.
It's because I'm a witness.
I've experienced it.
They subpoenaed all my phone records, all my everything in the fake Sandy Hook lawsuits, never said what they said.
I said I was found guilty.
I gave all my lawyers my cell phones.
They went and grabbed all the data out.
One accidentally sent an ear of a phone.
That's how they later got it.
There was nothing there.
But there were a few text messages from Joe Rogan saying, How's the Sandy Hook thing going?
And I said, oh, it's all a bunch of bull.
It's okay.
It's lawfare.
Now, that was it.
They used that to start trying to subpoena him behind the scenes, harass him, threatening him.
And they basically even said to him, Well, don't have Alex on and we'll leave you alone.
So my point is, this is the DOJ using this whole thing to find any names they can to then harass other prominent people.
It's stalking.
This is all industrial-level criminal stalking.
breanna morello
Yeah, well, they probably didn't want you to go back on Joe Rogan's show.
It has a massive platform.
People that normally might not tune into Infowars will tune into Joe Rogan's show, and they don't want you to reach that audience.
So, yeah, I'd say that it's a massive First Amendment violation as well, the free speech angle to all of this and trying to.
alex jones
Well, just imagine it's 1960 and you're Martin Luther King, and there were cell phones then, and the KKK sues Martin Luther King and gets his cell phone.
What are they going to do with his cell phone?
They're going to harass everybody in his orbit.
That's basically what this is.
breanna morello
Yeah, it's a bullying tactic, right?
Because they're going to say, oh, well, look what we did to Alex.
That could be you next.
And if Joe Rogan wasn't a good friend of yours, he actually might fall for something.
alex jones
You know, you told me about it all and everything else.
But yeah, he was just like, geez, what the hell is this?
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
So they're like literally calling up, threatening him and his lawyers.
breanna morello
It's just so infuriating, right?
Because Alex, they're not doing anything to prevent this from happening in the future either.
I mean, what have we done to make this a preventative so this doesn't happen to others?
The Supreme Court not weighing in on your case either, which was, I think, was actually a disgrace to our country because the reality of it is, is Alex, so much has started with you.
Censorship started with you and they started censoring you and saying, oh, you said some things, and they use that as a valid reason to push forward.
And then everyone else, that net started widening and everyone else who was critical of the COVID jabs.
alex jones
Exactly.
And they said this in 2018.
They said, when they don't stand up for Jones, this is an official white papers from Democrats.
We're going to go after everybody.
But that's another microcosm of that.
Like last year, Aaron Rodgers is on Rogan and says Alex Jones didn't even say the things he said he said about that.
But even if he did, he has a right to say it.
Those law firms went out and said, Aaron Rodgers, we're looking to sue you F around, find out.
So Aaron Rodgers just defended me and they threatened him.
Again, it's pure thuggery.
breanna morello
Yeah, it is.
And it's totally egregious.
alex jones
By the way, the lawyer that did that is the former U.S. prosecutor whose specialty is putting innocent Republicans in prison in Connecticut.
breanna morello
Yeah.
I mean, no surprise there.
These are what these people do.
They're hateful.
They've got the system figured out where they could figure out ways to go after not only you, but those who defend you.
And I think that's disgusting.
alex jones
Oh, but we can't get into it in full record, but you've got a lot of DOJ sources.
They think they've gotten away with it.
They haven't.
breanna morello
Yeah, yeah.
Well, they haven't gotten away with it.
And I think that's the key point in all of this.
You know, we know behind the scenes has been a lot of disappointments in regards to the AG and the deputy AG, Todd Blanche.
Now, again, we've tried our very best to hold the DOJ's feet to the fire on going out there and holding key people accountable.
And so far, we haven't seen much movement on that.
But, you know, Alex, we're not going to stop anytime soon.
We're going to keep pushing for this because this all needs to be looked into.
This doesn't end with you, Alex.
This continues on to others.
alex jones
Well, I agree.
But just imagine Aaron Rodgers.
Well, we all know Alex.
We can play the clip we put on screen.
Alex didn't really even say that.
What they say, he said he has a right.
They're like, watch out, son of a bitch.
We'll get you too.
I mean, it's just pure thuggery.
breanna morello
Yeah, it's free speech too.
He could say whatever he wants to say.
They just don't want him to say it.
Because once somebody like Rogers comes out and says something, he's got obviously a very big platform as well.
People in the sports world love him dearly.
They don't want your message expanding.
They've been able to control the narrative up to this point.
And if it gets any further, if it gets out of control, they can't do that.
So yes, I think that's disgusting that they did that in the first place.
alex jones
Well, who's vindicated on not taking the shot?
Breonna Morello, Aaron Rodgers, or Anthony Fauci?
unidentified
Yeah.
breanna morello
Yeah.
Thankfully, I mean, not taking the jab.
We're all functioning.
We're doing well.
I feel bad for those who didn't listen up.
I tried my best to save people, Alex.
I mean, I literally was citing your work, Dr. Naomi Wolf's.
alex jones
People that don't remember that, that was, you gotta, you got fired over this.
Tell people what happened to you.
breanna morello
Yeah, Fox Corp actually pushed me out.
I was over there.
They had actually moved me down under the phone call that I took a few weeks before.
Well, I went from, sorry, I went from Florida to the New York City office.
I'd moved up technically.
And I was told, no, no, no, we want to get you in.
We'll get you to produce Tucker Carlson's show once the slot opens up.
So don't worry.
Just make sure you're in the area.
We need you here.
And that was the agreement that we had originally had agreed to.
It wasn't until the day I moved in, I got a message forward to me from someone over at Human Resources saying if I didn't take the jab due to the New York City private sector vaccine mandate, that I was going to be put on unpaid leave.
Then it also incentivized me to take the jab for a couple of hundred dollars.
They were going to throw me a bonus if I got the jab by their deadline.
Now, obviously, I didn't do either.
And I had my suspicions because I was.
alex jones
Remember the mayor?
I'll give you a burger.
breanna morello
I didn't go with the burger either.
alex jones
I got a burger.
Anna fry?
So creepy.
breanna morello
So creepy.
alex jones
It's like, hit the clown, stick your arm in here, Georgie.
Yeah.
breanna morello
No, but that's what they, they went to all these insane lengths and you're like, what the heck is going on here?
Now, I wasn't somebody who read that deep into it, but I figured if you're trying to sell me on this, I probably shouldn't do it.
And they didn't have any long-term research into it.
And so I got the call that, you know, you could apply for an exemption if you want to, but I didn't want to apply for an exemption now because I don't think we have to ask our government for permission if our medical background or disclose our medical background or even say what our religion is.
That was always something that you could actually sue for in civil courts if your employer tries to discriminate against you in those cases.
So, and we knew too, the fact that Fox was pushing this private sector vaccine mayonnaise onto me and to others.
They knew that it was illegal because the Supreme Court already ruled that Joe Biden.
alex jones
And now we know it was a purge in the military and everywhere else.
They didn't make leftists to it.
And Congress exhibited itself.
So we only got about 10 minutes left, but I'm waiting to come back soon.
Got to get here more.
You're knocking out of the park with the show.
And the numbers were already great in the morning, but it's huge numbers.
You're just totally kicking ass.
All the great guests you have on because you're not just an amazing talent and pundit and journalist.
You are, I forgot, a star producer.
breanna morello
Thank you.
alex jones
Oh, no.
I mean, my goodness, you know, you got, I'm telling you, you got your finger on the pulse.
So let me just show, I'm going to get after you leave.
I've got lawyers coming on about this and FBI agents and people, but just a quick look.
If you take this document, the latest Arctic Frost stuff, you got to be an FBI agent.
And even most of them don't know this is all compartmentalized.
Some know this document, some know that.
Obviously, they don't teach each area unless you're in that area what it means.
And so we fed into ChatGPT and DeGrock.
What do these codes mean?
I didn't just believe this.
I've checked with FBI agents, it's what it means.
They looked at stuff you'd expect: obstruction of an official proceeding, conspiracy to defraud the United States, okay, mail fraud, campaign finance crimes.
So they're targeting members of the Senate and House and state lawmakers with campaign finance crimes.
So what does this have to do with, oh, we plan to attack the Capitol, which we actually know the Democrats did and set us up.
I was there, folks.
Money laundering, okay?
Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, Bank Secrecy Act, conspiracy against rights.
That's what they're doing to us.
Civil rights violations.
That's what we're about to go after them on.
That's what they're under criminal investigation for.
Summary of key criminal codes referred.
It goes on and on.
Okay, so that's one chat GPT search.
We put in other parameters.
It says, you know, but also gambling, gaming activities and financial transactions, campaign fun misuse allegations.
This is what they're targeting lawmakers for anything they can get, not Jan 6.
Investigative gaps, and it goes on and on.
Pennsylvania Republican primary leadership, Republican Party officials in other states.
This is a total political attack, just like Ed Martin said six months ago, because he was already seeing all this.
Now it's gone through Congress, so it's been released.
This is insane.
And again, what scares me is I'm sick of us always being ahead of the curve.
It scares me.
I don't want to be the guy ahead of the time.
I want to break 10% of the story.
It's not 90, but you and others.
It's just weird.
We keep doing it.
Why didn't others think to stick this in Chat GPT or call the FBI?
What does it really mean?
Because it's got codes all over it.
This is not just spying on their political enemies for J6.
It's a huge criminal dragnet looking for everything with all the FBI offices taking off real crime, human trafficking, fentanyl to this.
This is a damn scandal of scandals.
Holy Toledo, you talk about weaponization.
This is the holy grail of proof here.
breanna morello
Yeah, Alex, it is.
And this is why it's so important for people to be outraged by this.
Because what they were looking to do is to go after these politicians, to say to these politicians, we're going to charge you with all these crimes.
alex jones
They were going to blackmail them.
They were trying to find something.
That's this was.
Sorry, go ahead.
breanna morello
Yeah, no, exactly.
That's what they were going to do.
alex jones
But they came up dry, didn't they?
breanna morello
They did.
Well, because there weren't real crimes committed and they couldn't even cook those up.
You know, I spoke with Enrique Tario once he got out of prison.
And Tario told me that the DOJ tried to slide him a deal where he had to admit that he somehow, some way was communicating with President Trump through someone third party to orchestrate January 6th.
Now, because Tario didn't do so, he was slammed with a 22-year prison sentence.
That's likely what they were doing here.
They were going after all the key players close to President Trump.
alex jones
Oh, they came to Roger Stone and said, we'll drop all this if you just say, you know, Trump was working with WikiLeaks.
unidentified
Yeah.
breanna morello
And that's exactly what they look to do.
And that's the reason why they're stacking up those charges.
They're going after everyone who's close to President Trump.
I mean, people who haven't even actually been near President Trump were indicted in that RICO case as well in Fulton County.
These are people who were just simply door knockers who didn't even know the president.
They wanted everyone.
The law fair to keep in mind, they subpoenaed a lot of those attorneys, their finances.
What were they looking to do?
Well, obviously, see if they could find a crime, but most importantly, see how much they could fight the law fair that was going to come their way.
Like people like Jeff Clark, Ruger Giuliani.
The goal was to bankrupt them, and they want to see how much money they had to fight.
alex jones
It's a multifaceted attack.
And then when they subpoena them, they get everybody else's records and they attack them.
Then they can't get Alexei's records because I fought them.
I've just fought 100% flamethrower attack.
Nothing against Giuliani.
He's an old, smart guy, great guy, but he caved in in bankruptcy in six months.
Three years with us.
I mean, with me, I just say, I just say, literally, lawyers are like, you're spending 95% of the money that you would get.
I'm just total war, attack, attack, because I know the long game's the key here.
But notice everything that's come out now.
More and now they're all under criminal investigation.
Yeah, the investigations aren't over, dumbasses.
And it's, it's, so we're closing in, we're winning.
I can feel it.
breanna morello
Yeah.
Well, we have to win this because, again, it doesn't stop at Alex.
It continues on.
But most importantly, they can't win the battle.
You cannot allow them to win this.
The conquering of InfoWar is what the goal is.
And so they could wave their flag over the building.
But the reality is, the audience has been so incredible over the years, Alex, to support you to keep this fight on and going and funding it.
alex jones
Let's be clear.
Exactly.
The audience aren't an audience.
They're activists.
They are the InfoWar.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
I mean, I'm not just saying the patient on the head, folks.
You're it, baby.
You're trying to put me in the game.
I'm the, I'm saying I'm putting you in the game.
breanna morello
Yeah.
And that's what's so key about this, folks.
If you don't have the funding, Alex, to fight these fights, it's gone.
It's over with.
And then they win.
So the fact that we're able to still drag it on, still keep this ball rolling.
alex jones
Exactly.
They want us shut down.
People say, oh, God, all this money.
They come to me in court all the time.
They'll tell my lawyers, why don't you just give up?
It'll be a user.
Give up and let you rape the country.
We get it's a long war.
George Washington lost the first five years of the war, one and the last.
It's about perseverance.
It's about going to the end.
That's how you win.
unidentified
Yeah.
breanna morello
And all the key players are going to have questions that they're going to have to answer.
I mean, we're getting to the point where we've got some great people on our side who are looking into all of this.
alex jones
Exactly.
People that say it isn't moving quick enough.
It didn't move an inch the first time.
It's moved a thousand miles.
And we got 10,000 miles to go.
But guess what?
It's moving.
breanna morello
Yeah.
And I'm pressing all the key players and all of this to see who can help us out.
So we'll continue to fight.
alex jones
Well, here's the good part about it.
People now realize it's a death battle.
More people realize this isn't like a hobby to fight tyranny.
So that's why they're going to lose.
Good is finally waking up.
It's over.
It's going to be rough for us at the tip of the spear.
They think they can destroy us.
That'll scare everybody else, but they don't understand that when Santa Ana wiped out the Alamo, did that make the Texans give up?
Had the opposite effect.
breanna morello
Yeah.
Well, that's the other key thing here, too, Alex.
I mean, you just talked about too, how Joe Rogan and Rogers, all of them were jumping on board to help you out and just talk about what you were going through.
I think that we've seen over the last few years that people who weren't stepping up to the plate are finally because they realize that this just isn't a fight for Infowars.
This isn't a fight for you.
This is a fight for everyone throughout this country right now.
And so many people who weren't in there from day one, I think, are jumping on board now to help you out.
alex jones
Well, we're all in this together.
I mean, literally, when Trump says they're not trying to get me, I'm standing the way.
They're trying to get you.
That's the truth.
breanna morello
It is the truth.
Yeah.
alex jones
And to me, we know of hundreds of investigations.
You know, there's others.
They've never found anything.
I'm actually, but you know, normal people, there's so many legal, good ways to make money.
I don't even think about how do I run a scam?
How do I get away with something?
That's a criminal brain.
You study criminology.
We don't have criminal brains as Christians and populists.
And so it's like we don't ever realize how evil they are because we think they're like us and then they think we're like them.
It's a weird thing that happens.
breanna morello
Yeah.
Yeah.
And they're trying to take us out.
The reality of it is, too.
I mean, we announced I got access to the, I'm getting access to the Pentagon.
We announced that last week and we made the announcement.
And all of a sudden, all the corporate media heads are coming after me, trying to find any flaw to go after me and to try to get those credentials, yangs.
But this is what they do.
They are evil, Alex.
alex jones
Hold on.
That was the subject I wanted to you on last week, but you're too busy.
breanna morello
I know.
alex jones
You got to come back on the next few days.
Well, let's do five more minutes ahead of Nick Fuentes.
Be sure we post on X that Nick Fuentez is coming on about a bunch of stuff.
I like Nick overall.
I'm taking the woodshed on the style of love.
That's something I didn't know.
I think he's just trying to be contrarian.
But seriously, we're about to go to break.
I want to come back and talk about that because the White House came to us.
We had a correspondent the first thing, but back then they still controlled it so they didn't go to the independents.
Now it's great.
Now you see real questions getting asked.
So they'd already come to us.
Hey, we're going to send a correspondent when you're.
But then the Pentagon obviously respects you.
They came to you separately and want you up there, which is great.
We totally endorse it and love it.
Just hope you're here most of the time.
You can host up there, you know, remotely.
But they flip out, oh my God, we will be inside the Pentagon.
Hey, half the Pentagon's already listening, dumbasses.
We're in the Pentagon.
Yeah.
You idiots.
They think if they keep you out of the Pentagon, that's some kind of victory.
Now, of course, the Pentagon only wants you in there more, I would imagine.
breanna morello
Yeah, and we were breaking stories without access to the Pentagon.
So we'll just keep breaking more.
alex jones
But you're not blocked from the Pentagon.
You're going.
breanna morello
Yeah, we're going.
alex jones
Yeah, it's beautiful.
We'll go right back.
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I love his self-development formula.
I am an acupuncturist.
I have a master's degree in Chinese medicine.
And he's got some really good formulas put together.
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I really appreciate that stuff cake and all of my other stuff that I was taking.
And I just take a lot of you guys' stuff.
I mean, because I love you and I want to support everything you guys are doing.
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katie in ohio
It has like a decent flavor to it.
So the, I mean, the optimal human is like a daily staple.
harrison smith
It's good, right?
katie in ohio
Absolutely, 100%.
unidentified
Yeah.
katie in ohio
And I'm not saying that because just for you guys, but seriously, I've tried so many greens powders over the years and it really is the best.
harrison smith
And are we paying you, Katie?
Did we pay you to call in?
katie in ohio
I would love to work for you.
I swear, Alex Jones' picture is on like my mantle with all of my family pictures.
harrison smith
That's amazing.
katie in ohio
We love Alex.
harrison smith
You know, some people call in this person.
You're paying them.
But like, no, our products really are good.
People really like them.
It's true.
katie in ohio
Well, I accredited him to like the life-changing experience I had when I decided to leave California because I didn't want to bash Trump.
And I listened to Jones until I found him.
And I'm like, I got to get the hell out of here.
And so I moved back home to Ohio.
And three months later, I met my husband.
And I feel like that life-changing event for me was because of listening to all the information that he gives.
He's not like predicting the future.
He's just giving you the information that's hard to find, where they're telling you what they're going to do.
harrison smith
Yeah.
Well, now you have a three-year-old kid.
So your life's going great.
I've said it before, but with a lot of these products, like you really don't know what it's going to do for you because you might not know that you're lacking a vitamin or lacking a mineral.
And it happens all the time with iodine.
Iodine is one of those things where like, as soon as you start taking it, you're like, oh, I'm not supposed to, and I'm not a doctor.
This is not a medical claim, but people experience this.
I've heard it from my friends where they're like, I'm not supposed to be tired all the time.
I apparently just was lacking iodine.
And it's like, you don't know if you're going to feel more energetic, if you're going to sleep better, if you're not going to have chills anymore.
It's like people sort of go around thinking that that's the way their body is, but it's like, no, you're missing a key component.
You're missing a vitamin.
You're missing a mineral.
And you don't even realize it until you start taking something from the Alex Jones store.
So I completely understand that you start taking the Irish CMOS and suddenly something that you thought was just the way your body is, no, turns out you can fix it.
You can fix these things.
Again, I'm not making medical claims, but you can only find out for yourself what effects these things will have.
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Thanks for the plug, Katie.
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alex jones
All right, just to finish up real quick with incredible investigative journalist, Brianna Morello, and host of The American Journal, weekday mornings, 8 a.m.
to 11 a.m., right before my show with The American Journal.
Now, Harris has moved on, doing a fabulous job with the war room.
We could have correspondents in the Quiet House.
They already invited us.
We had them before.
We could have it in the Pentagon.
We are bidding bankruptcy.
We don't have the money.
Okay.
And so when Owen quit, we were able to, with the money, we had, you know, bring another host.
She's doing a great job.
So to the left in the Washington Post attacking everybody else, oh my God, an evil Infowars connected person in there.
The Pentagon, half of them are listening right now.
The White House Situation Room listens to the show.
Everybody's got the show up.
Steve Bannon has it up.
The idea that you guys are keeping us out of something, you wouldn't sign the agreement to stop not wearing badges and wandering into classified areas.
And so it's good for them to bring in new media.
And I'm hearing independent media ask such incredible questions, the Gateway Pundit, Lindell TV, Newsmax, all of them.
And so I can't wait till you're up there.
You're still going to be hosting here, you know, double duty.
But getting into them going completely ape over this and throwing a giant temper tantrum, showing even the Washington Post and others don't even know how this works.
So tell us about it.
breanna morello
Well, they keep calling us like MAGA reporters or journalists or influencers making our way into the Pentagon.
The reality of it is, is I have been actually fair when it comes to criticizing the Pentagon, and they know that.
But I reach out for comment before I have an opinion on something just to make sure it's true.
And there's been a couple of times when the mainstream media has put something out that's been inaccurate.
alex jones
Really?
I don't believe it.
breanna morello
I know, I know, I know, Alex.
It's really hard to believe, but this is what's going on right now in the mainstream media.
And hear me out, too.
The worst part about all of this that I have to say is the simple fact that they have spent more time looking into my background, my credentials.
I mean, they keep trying to call me a conspiracy theorist, even though I've broken some of the most important stories.
And I have a corporate media background, but most importantly, I ditched all of that and was able to make it somehow on my own.
They don't like that.
The fact that I was the first one who had the cojona to talk about Tulsi Gabber being added to a Tara Watchlist, I broke that story, even told her team that she was added to the Terra watch list for TSA.
They didn't do that.
The corporate media outlets had it before me, but they were too cowardly to report it because they didn't want to piss off the Biden regime.
But I went forward and moved forward and reported that.
So I have no problem being critical, though, with the current administration as well.
So they're not doing this to kiss butt with us.
They are doing this because they want new faces in there.
Now, we've been discriminated against when it comes to the First Amendment.
Under the Biden regime, I'd send emails.
They never would respond to my emails.
I actually have two lawsuits I'm personally paying right now against TSA and the Veterans Affairs for how they targeted Jay Sixters and so much more.
I actually just won my TSA lawsuit, so we're almost done.
I'm going to close out that one soon.
But the reality of it is, the Biden regime violated our First Amendment rights when they didn't give us access into the Pentagon, into the White House, and into other agencies.
So they want to sit there and they want to cry about us now having access.
Well, truth be told, we should have had access a long time ago and they never spoke up on our behalf.
Also, to add this, as somebody who worked for Fox and was forced out of Fox court because I refused to hate the Jab, all of the mainstream media outlets, pretty much all of them, took money from HHS.
The Biden regime gave them money to promote the jabs.
They never disclosed that to their audience.
They only had positive coverage of the jabs, never gave them any of the medical background dangers of the jabs at all.
They slanted their coverage.
So when it comes to credibility and journalism, over these last 10 years, I've done a hell of a job so they could piss off Alex.
alex jones
Well, you have, but again, they're the dinosaur media that's discredited acting like they have the credibility.
They say somebody's not credible.
Everybody knows, oh, they say you're not credible.
You must be.
And again, the government has all these factions and groups, some good, some bad, some evil, some lazy.
I get constant thank yous from the White House and the Pentagon.
When I spotlight something I think is a problem, they go, hey, we were putting pressure on this.
Thank you.
Can you do more?
There's good guys in there, good gals.
We're there.
We're all working together for the truth.
People respect you when you expose real corruption that even ferrets out stuff to the Republicans.
That's what we're doing.
We are trying to purify ourselves here.
People understand that.
This isn't about taking score or political parties.
It's about fixing the country.
Yeah.
breanna morello
And I didn't need access to the Pentagon.
Never asked for it, never needed it.
We just now have it, which is great.
I have got that as an independent journalist, and I'm honored to do just that.
But the reality of it is that I've been breaking stories without access into the administration to the current and previous.
And so this is only going to help us out significantly.
alex jones
Brianna Morello, Brianna Morello on X at Brianna Morello.
Incredible job.
We'll see you tomorrow morning, 8 a.m.
Central, American Journal.
Nick Foinde, straight ahead.
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Trump doesn't want you eating bugs.
He wants you eating ribby with lobster with him.
Trump doesn't want big giant wars.
That's stupid.
No, Klaus Schwab and King Charles and Barack Obama want you eating bugs while they eat riby because they're feudalist, greedy, hateful, demonic, trash, and you don't hate them enough.
And you don't support the people fighting for you enough.
I'm not saying that to everybody, but in general, you don't detest these people enough and you don't love the people fighting for you enough.
Because if you loved yourself, you would understand these people have a predatory hatred of you and your family.
Just look at them.
Look at Kiera Starmer.
Look at Macron.
Look at these people.
Look at Hillary Clinton.
Just look at them.
Look at George Soros.
Look at Alexander Soros.
Look.
Their actions are pure evil and they look like serial killers or something because they are.
Did you let Alexander Soros babysit your daughter's son?
Married to Uba Abedeen, the pedo handler for Wiener?
He's bad ombres.
El Diablo, that's the bad man right there.
Yourselves.
No, that's an enemy.
Your skin crawls.
And they know your skin crawls.
They hate themselves and they hate you.
They're projecting their hatred of themselves onto you.
Well, guess what?
unidentified
I love myself and I love you.
alex jones
And Trump loves himself and he loves you.
I love you.
They hate you.
Now start loving yourself or start being a slave.
Oh, you can say what you want about Nicholas J. Fuentes, but he's definitely on the cutting edge of culture.
And I think what he does is very healthy because the left and the ADL, the Southern Poverty Law Center has become ultra, super anti-Christian, anti-Catholic, anti-white.
And the answer to that is not grobbling to it.
The answer is saying, I'm not going to kowtow to your brainwashing, and I'm going to call you on what you're doing.
That's the antidote in the Oberton window.
Doesn't mean I agree with every cheeky or edgelord, you know, you know, comment that, you know, Nick engages in, but I find Nick very entertaining.
I've known Nick nine years and liked him at first, thought he was smart, whatever, but I think he's matured a lot.
And so you can't judge him for what he's doing when he is way more polished and less hateful in his delivery than Hakeem Jeffries or any of the Democrats, the ADL, Jasmine Crockett, any of it.
You just can't say, well, this is terrible when he, on a scale of one to 10, they're a 10.
He's like a five.
It just doesn't float.
And the way to counter radical hatred and garbage is not running up a white flag.
That said, I always want to show the rabbit trick here.
Okay.
I'm not a magician.
I show the tricks.
And so in my perspective, and I think Nick's overall agree with it, I know what he's doing.
And I think it's healthy.
But that's not the angle I go with.
I go always with 35,000-foot view.
And Nick's always done that some too, but I've really, because I'm a fan of the show, I watch it, large sections of it almost daily.
Quite frankly, I get up at 4 or 5 a.m.
So I can't usually catch it live.
Sometimes I'm waiting around for it and don't get to see it.
But I am a listener.
And as soon as the Tucker Carlson interview dropped, I sat there and put my year old daughter to bed and then watched two hours of it, watched the next 30 minutes of the morning.
And it was just, it was powerful.
There was a few things in there that I don't want to spend the whole show debating, like Joseph Stalin's good person things, because I'm quite the historian.
Nick's not a slouch, but we'll get to that.
But I don't want to miss the forest for the trees.
I want to cover a lot in the next hour and a half with him.
I've had up all these other big guests we've got.
I want to do his reflection on the Tucker thing and what it's like, you know, after the big beef with those guys, where that's going, and what he thought about visiting Maine.
So cool up there.
And then I want to get his take because I follow a lot of them, but I didn't really know his take on Venezuela.
I totally remember his take on Venezuela.
It's a real estate, not a neocon take.
A lot of idiots don't understand that.
This is American doctrine.
This is back to what we're supposed to do.
I want to look at that.
Not trying to talk about myself in this, but it's a big deal.
We get the Arctic Frost documents yesterday, hundreds of pages, without a warrant.
There I am being totally surveilled by these people, which I already knew.
And that was my point to Nick months ago, because we don't talk a lot on the phone.
We text a couple times a week.
Maybe every few weeks talk on the phone for a few minutes.
He's not a big phone person, just like I'm not.
But I've called him a few times over the years and I've said, listen, the Republicans got their problems.
We got a beachhead there.
I said, the Democrats hate your ass.
They may act like they like you're criticizing Trump.
You've been targeted.
Bill Barr, the documents came out three months ago, specifically on a list of only like 13, 14 people had Nick above me on the list to be destroyed.
Okay.
When he was working for Trump and then after Trump didn't know.
So I'm just simply saying that you know who's really bad who's trying to totally put you in prison.
And so I think we can reform the Republican Party.
At least we have some shot there.
There's no shot with the Democrats.
They are rotting.
They're beyond rotting.
And so we can talk big picture about that.
It doesn't mean we go along with bad elements of the Republican Party.
It means we got pull here to actually turn them the directions we want.
So why not be more optimistic and get what we can get out of something?
It's not a lesser of evils.
It's being a realist.
So there's that.
Anywhere else he wants to go, Nick, great to have you on Rumble at Nick J. Fuentes.
Thanks for joining us on this live Wednesday, October 29th, 2025 transmission.
Hope everybody watching on X on their platform shares the link because that's what's about to be a Paul Revere as we battle the 1984 system with the spirit of 1776.
But I threw out five or six topics there.
What do you want to tackle first?
I mean, maybe we should do Tucker Carlson first.
nick fuentes
Yeah, yeah, that sounds good to me.
We could get into that first.
alex jones
Well, I don't know how I got the credit for setting it up because, I mean, I do deserve the credit, actually.
But no, I mean, I think you, you know, getting in his grill and then, you know, him calling me what your number and then you guys talking and me, you know, me saying, you know, Nick's misunderstood.
I think you're wrong about these things.
I mean, yes, I was the catalyst.
Said you really need to interview him, but I don't know how that was ever discovered because I didn't say that I was the catalyst.
I wonder how that got out.
nick fuentes
Well, you did tweet about it.
You did say a couple of weeks in advance.
You said it's coming.
The interview's coming.
Trust me.
alex jones
So it was trending.
When is Nick on?
And I said, okay, I guess I let the cat out of the bag.
unidentified
Yeah.
nick fuentes
So maybe that's the case.
But no, but I appreciated it.
I think you're kind of the bridge.
You're the mediator.
And, you know, you had just talked with Tucker before, and I know you have a good relationship with him.
And I think you recognized that maybe we were talking past each other.
I think you were uniquely situated not just to understand, but also to maybe, you know, arrange this.
You understood that Tucker Carlson's America first.
I'm America first.
Maybe there's a generational divide.
He's from the institutions.
I'm from the outside.
I'm from the wilderness out here.
And I think that you recognized that there was a big opportunity for us to de-escalate this and not go for the juggular with each other and actually just have a productive conversation about where we legitimately disagree.
And part of that is you need to actually press the flesh.
You need to sit down and get to know the other person and talk and identify what each person actually believes and what you're about, you know, what each person is really about.
And that's exactly what we did.
We got dinner on Sunday night and we met for the first time ever.
And we had talked on the phone over the summer, but very briefly.
So this is the first time that we really sat down, got to know each other.
We spent a few hours together for dinner.
I thought we had a really fun, great conversation.
I think he got an idea of who I am.
I got an idea of who he is.
Of course, things are lost in the transmission when you're in translation, but also in the transmission when you're live, when you're on a show, when you actually get to meet the person, you get the real measure of the man.
As we got to know each other a little bit.
And then the following day, we had our discussion, as everybody has seen and commentated on.
And I think that what took place was a real conversation.
It wasn't scripted.
It wasn't a, contrary to what people say, don't think it was a softball, but it also wasn't a hit job.
It also wasn't an ambush.
I think he asked some challenging questions.
There are areas of disagreement, but we talked about it.
We talked about it openly and directly and where we didn't understand.
We asked for clarification.
And, you know, there were times, I don't want to say it was contentious, but we had some real disagreements.
And I think the conversation was productive because we're able to ascertain exactly what the disagreements were.
And we were each able to kind of say something about it.
So I'm really glad that it happened.
I think that it's a huge step forward towards unity because, like you said, the 35,000-foot few, the big picture, especially after Charlie Kirk was killed.
And, you know, I say this on my show: people can feel however they want about the actual assassination, who pulled the trigger, who was behind it, if there was a conspiracy.
That aside, everybody on the left celebrated this.
So people could say, well, it was organized crime.
Well, it was a foreign government.
Well, it was this, that, or the other.
Okay, be that as it may.
Thousands of left-wing people celebrated that a young guy got shot in the face for talking about his views.
And he was extremely moderate.
And so I think that is really the context where you look across the way at somebody like a Tucker from my perspective, or vice versa, or someone like a Matt Walsh, or maybe even for many people, someone like yourself.
And they say, I think we actually have a lot more in common between ourselves than we do with the left, the neocons.
We really need to unite and stick together.
And sometimes it's going to be awkward and sometimes it's going to be uncomfortable.
And, you know, there's egos and there's differences of opinion.
And that's, that happens.
I mean, that happens when there's men involved.
But I think we're starting to see the contours of a new movement taking shape, which is the legitimate America First movement.
And the timing was interesting.
Tucker did a really big show about that just the other week with Marjorie Taylor Green.
I thought he did a wonderful job fleshing out what the America First pillars are.
And to me, those are going to be the guidestones going forward.
alex jones
So I thought it was a very good idea.
But Green is a microcosm or not a microcosm, an example of what happened to you.
You're just a libertarian, Ron Paul, pro-America guy, and you're working over, you know, at the Daily Wire and all this.
And they come in and try to indoctrinate you into Israel, take you there, make you their slave when you're just mildly asking questions.
And you, you then on a journey become radicalized, as you would call it.
Same thing with Green.
They started bullying her over the last few years and saying you can't ask questions.
And then now she's come over to you because of this behavior.
And then you got to ask, why does Netanyahu do that?
Why does he create so many Nick Fuentes?
nick fuentes
Yeah, which I thought was an interesting question.
And the more that I thought about it, I sort of realized if Nick Fuentes were president or Tucker Carlson were president, he wouldn't like that.
You know, Netanyahu would not want someone like me to be in power or anywhere near power.
unidentified
So you could say that's an understatement.
nick fuentes
Yes, to say the least.
But I heard this sort of this insinuation that maybe Netanyahu prefers someone like me over someone like Tucker, let's say, for example.
And I would say that to the extent that that's true, I seriously doubt that.
But Tucker says that's the case.
I think the reason that maybe the Israeli right sees some benefit out of me is as long as they can control the conversation, as long as I'm on the outside, as long as I'm yelling and screaming from outside the club, and I have no real chance at getting any real influence or power, they're very comfortable maybe with the idea that I could be used as a bludgeon to cancel people, make people look bad, something like that.
But I don't think they realize the gravity of the situation, which is that people like myself are now in the majority in the conservative movement.
As Donald Trump said recently, it's now a liability to be pro-Israel.
And that's largely because I was one of the moral entrepreneurs, in the words of Overton, that was first of the party in saying that we have an Israel problem.
There's a contradiction.
alex jones
And by the way, your statement that you represent the majority of the party is that is not an overstatement.
That is a fact.
nick fuentes
It certainly is.
And especially with the young people.
That's the other dimension to it.
Maybe less so with the older crowd, but with the young people, it is certainly right, left, and center.
The majority share my critique of Israel.
And I get messages from people I know all the time, people in college.
They say, my friend is really left-wing, like he's a Bernie bro type.
He's a socialist, but he loves your clips because he loves what you say about Israel and he thinks you're really funny.
And like, that's that's like a thermometer.
That's taking the temperature.
Because, of course, just a few years ago, well, everyone hated me.
The lefts really hated me.
Many on the right were content with me being canceled.
And so I think now that I am clearly ascendant, it's sort of undeniable that I'm bringing the ratings, I'm bringing the views.
The young people are with me.
Now I think that the pro-Israel side is deeply uncomfortable with this.
And so that's why Mark.
alex jones
I don't know if they killed Kirk, but I've said you need to.
I mean, if Nick Fuentez, God forbid, gets killed, I would then say the first suspect is going to be Israel or some crazy right-wing loon that they brainwash.
And so let's briefly speak to this because I saw you talk about this the other day.
I don't want to spend much time on those people, but we have the deranged left that has the mental acuity and psychological, historical understanding of a goldfish.
But you do have kind of a mindless, as the general public wakes up in mask, there'll be a certain trashy, you know, criminal, mindless undercurrent that wakes up.
And then all they know how to do is act like complete fools, say the most mindless things that actually discredit what you and others are doing trying to move the upper turn window.
And then all they do is then attack and lie and say, oh, how dare you go on Turkey Carlson?
You know, how, how dare you say, you know, that it wasn't Israel killed Kirk.
And now we've said there may be some evidence that we're moving that direction.
We're not sure yet.
No, the left said we're going to kill him.
The left celebrated it.
The left owned it.
Regardless, you do have these Transifa doing things.
So there is all this leftist violence.
So the point is, no, they're like top suspects.
We don't know yet.
And we go there.
And then now they're covering up the trial.
Now it's the biggest gag order ever.
Now Cash Patel shuts down Kirk, foreign intelligence probe, an explosive feud with Trump's counterterrorism chief.
That's coming up.
We're going to get to this because now I'm, I'm getting not just about Israel, but the whole deep state.
Maybe the RNC had motives.
We talked about a month ago.
My point is, we didn't have the evidence yet.
But these people that, you know, I showed up 31 years ago, you've been around over 10 years that I've known of you.
Before that, when you're a little kid, you're doing shows, you know, 15, 16 years ago.
So the point is we have pedigrees.
We're known.
Our names are our names.
You're really Nick Jay Fuentez.
I'm really Alexander Emerick Jones.
But it's this mob showing up.
And I guarantee you, we know a lot of those are bots.
A lot of those are feds.
A lot of those are NGOs.
And I'm telling you, that's who they're going to use to kill you or I or others.
So they'll say it's some deranged right winger.
I'm very concerned about that.
And you spoke to that quite a bit in the last few days because, you know, it's really an issue.
And I don't like Hitler and it was an anomaly and all the rest of it.
But those people need to know, as this happens, and if we don't fix this and we go into another World War II mode, which I don't want to happen, all the scum needs to know there's going to be a nine of the long knives for the SA, for the Ernst Romes, because the street thugs that kind of boil into this, as the aristocracy of a new system sets up, the obvious thing is going to be to cut out the retarded fat.
Now, I'm using a World War II analogy into all this.
Give us your take on that.
nick fuentes
Well, I think what you're saying is totally true.
And it's funny because this has been a conversation.
I'm sure you've been having this conversation on some level for many years, just as I have.
I mean, for the past 10 years, for as long as I've been doing the show, and we've called it many different things in my circles, we called it the optics war.
And there's been all sorts of disagreements between wignets and groipers, alt-right and alt-light, all these different kinds of things.
And I guess the way that I would frame it is I would say that I am ruthlessly committed to realizing America first.
I'm not here to do a show my entire life, although if that's necessary and that's what it takes, then I will do that.
I am here because I actually want our people to have power.
I want real Americans that believe the things we believe to actually have power and actually fundamentally change society.
And I know there's a lot of people that they're not thinking that way.
They're not thinking backward of what does it look like 10, 20, 30 years down in the road where we actually have political power, where we actually are the ascendant dominant movement.
We have to think backwards from that and think practically, how do we get there?
What's the roadmap?
And I know there's a lot of people that are angry.
There's a lot of people that are, they're getting red pill.
They're waking up.
You know, they're getting all these ideas.
And I think that it crosses over into self-indulgence when they want to scream and yell, they want to do their best Hitler impression.
They want to get really angry.
They talk about political violence.
And I get where the emotions come from.
But as someone that's been doing this for 10 years with serious and ambitious goals, we have to put the emotions aside.
We have to put that sort of thing aside and anybody that is not retards run the movement.
Yeah, precisely.
And we can't let them sabotage it either.
Anybody that is dragging us down or getting in the way, they are effectively operating on behalf of the enemy.
alex jones
Well, let's be clear.
Politically, populism, Christianity, reassurance of the West is in ascension only allowing the dumb, mindless scum boosted by the left who the left wants violence and the ultra retarded right wing wants it.
No, we're winning with ideas.
Violence is not the answer.
And they call you a sellout.
You work for Netanyahu.
You're a pussy when they're not out doing age in violence.
No, most of those are feds.
That is a setup.
And that's why they're saying you're an agent of Netanyahu is because on the course we're on, we saved the West.
And these people for low IQ or others who are bad actors, they don't want that to happen.
They don't want us to actually take back civilization.
They don't believe in victory.
They're victims.
They're failures.
They don't have the understanding of the second, third, fourth, fifth magnitude order repercussions.
They don't have destiny.
And so we just have to be, you know, be sad for them, but realize we can't let a pack of scum hijack our movement.
nick fuentes
I totally agree.
I think we need to make it very clear that what we want to do is win.
It's victory at any cost.
That's what we're about is total victory.
And we want victory for America first.
So me, I have no problem.
You know, my goal is not to appease or pander to a crowd of mindless type people like you're talking about.
The goal is victory at any cost.
And that means being pragmatic and being practical.
And it means having, like you said, an understanding of second, third, fourth order consequences.
It means having understanding of how these systems work.
So I'm totally with you.
And that's why I like to say on the interview with Tucker, my interview with Dave Smith, it's like when we take power, we don't want to hurt anybody.
We're not cruel or hateful or weird people.
You know, and I even don't like the word radicalization.
They like to say that I got radicalized because of Shapiro.
I think I'm actually the sensible one.
What's radical is the mass migration.
What's radical is 100 wars for Israel.
alex jones
I use that term as people know that term.
I mean, I agree.
The radicalization of that, trying to make you hate your country, hate yourself, hate your religion is what triggered you to be to change course.
nick fuentes
Right.
And I understand you're using it in a colloquial way.
I'm just referring broadly speaking.
People like to kind of take my story and say, this poor man was turned into a monster and a villain because he was abused.
And my message is always, I was right.
I was right first.
I was kind of right talking about mass migration, talking about Israel, talking about all these things really from day one.
And it's just taken everybody else a little while to catch up.
And, you know, just as it was then, as it is now, we still don't have time for people that are sabotaging our efforts.
And sometimes they do it through no fault of their own.
I think you're right.
There is a great deal of maybe there's federal informants or federal assets.
I also think there's a lot of people that are social defectives.
I think there's a lot of people that are just very emotional.
Maybe they're just sort of not very bright.
And unfortunately, we don't have the time or the, it's the luxury to take care of them.
Well, we have to decide.
alex jones
I feel powerful.
Take people who have real names, real track records, who put skin in the game.
People come to our houses to kill us.
We've been attacked.
And then you say, no, they're not real.
I am.
It's like stolen valor.
It's like if you go out and wear a Green Beret uniform and try to collect money at a Walmart and you were never in the military.
It's stolen valor is what it is.
And so I don't think, and I'm not trying to say I'm tough and I'm great and I'm wonderful, but I got one hell of a track record.
You've got one too.
I'm the real deal.
I got skin in the game.
I've left blood, you know, on the field.
And then just a bunch of people that are just as bad as the left that want to point at the strongman in the arena and sit there like a critic and claim they're good when we don't even know who their names are.
They're cowards and they need to be addressed and they're anathema and they're one of the biggest problems we face.
And they're the people they're going to send to kill us.
nick fuentes
Yeah, I think that's been the very small minority, though.
I think for the most part, a lot of people that are anonymous, you know, they just don't want to lose their jobs.
And so, you know, I'm not really against anonymity.
alex jones
I'm talking about anonymous people claiming you and I aren't real when the when the results you can't argue with.
nick fuentes
I totally agree with you and that it needs to be said.
But I agree.
It's a small percentage of bad actors.
And the good news is I think most people recognize that's what that is.
They see that I'm on a generational run.
They see me with Tucker Carlson and they say the ideas are being mainstreamed like we are winning.
And it's a good feeling that the ideas are getting out.
alex jones
I'm going to spend too much time on those people.
I want to talk about the EBT cards going out, the left that's degenerated beyond degeneration.
I want to get into Venezuela.
I want to get into Trump.
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alex jones
So I'll tell you a story that just happened Monday.
So I knew that Nick Fuente, Tucker Carlson interview was coming up when I was there weeks ago.
Tucker's like, yeah, you know, it's set coming up at the end of the month.
And then I worked late that night.
And so I was really hungry.
So I pull into Serrano's Mexican restaurant in South Austin.
I go in, put in earbuds, sit there for like an hour.
I'm watching the first hour of the interview.
And then I take the earbuds out, pay, I'm leaving, and I get in my car, roll down the window.
I'm sitting there, and I hear Nick and Tucker Carlson and I go and I pull my phone out.
I'm like, what's going on here?
And a guy in a Ford truck next to me has his windows down with his girlfriend or wife and they're listening to it in the car.
That's when you know you're in the zeitgeist.
Okay.
And that happened, Scott Sauner.
I almost pulled my phone out just to show, but I'm like, it doesn't matter.
I'll tell the story.
But I just remembered that.
So that is illustrative of the Great Awakening and the fact that the overdue window has been moved so far.
It's basically broken.
And you know my critique because communist China is making its move.
It's huge.
There's other globalist interests.
Israel's a big part of it.
It's been the taboo.
It's great that people aren't scared of the taboo.
I overall see that as healthy.
But what happens now that people are so anti-establishment that they don't believe anything they're told?
But also a lot of the public, we were just kind of finishing up with that, have woken up, but they still don't have any depth or context to understand it.
Because like you said, you were a little kid, like I was studying politics, loving it, being attracted to it.
What happens to people that are just now waking up in this?
And how does that paradox work?
Where if we had a giant base of people that had depth, we could really fix things quickly.
But it's also very explosive to have a huge awakening and then a bunch of people not distributed around the world that don't have any political understanding or even how to gauge it.
nick fuentes
Well, it's a really interesting question.
And it's something actually that me and Tucker talked a little bit about.
And I think that you're seeing the pendulum swinging maybe back in the other direction because what everybody recognizes is that 10 years ago, there was a dissent, a consensus maybe that started to emerge, which is that the institutions had no credibility.
The institutions, the media, academia, the government, they were all lying to us.
And they were.
I mean, there was a consensus that we couldn't trust them and that they had forfeited their credibility and legitimacy because they were lying.
They were telling us things that we knew were not true, things that were not common sense.
And when you push back on them, rather than correct the record, they just censored.
They censored or they called you a racist or a vax denier, you know, all those different things.
alex jones
Finally, they indicted you.
nick fuentes
Right.
They did all these kinds of things.
And I think that only hastened the end of their legitimacy and credibility because it showed that there was no ability for them to correct themselves.
And so, of course, then the pendulum swung in the other direction.
And this is why your show is huge.
It's why Joe Rogan is number one.
It's why Tucker is huge.
It's why all the people in this sphere, in this community, comedians, podcasters, conspiracy theorists, extremists, all these people are now gaining so much currency, especially now that there's free speech.
Elon acquired Twitter, opened it up, and now people are flocking to these alternative sources of information and opinion.
But I would say, and I said this to Tucker also at our dinner, it seems that we're reaching maybe the high watermark of that part of the pendulum swinging.
It seems like we're reaching a phase of exuberance and maybe a level of adoption where now it's going to start to swing in the other direction because what you see, and you've alluded to this, is that people seem to be falling for a lot of red herrings and getting wrapped up in weird conspiracy stuff.
I would say maybe the first iteration of that is like the QA non thing.
alex jones
Oh, yeah.
nick fuentes
Like this comes out in 2018.
And I think it catches up.
alex jones
I was about to say Q is a prime example.
nick fuentes
Right.
And that was one of the first ones.
And it was substantial and major.
And it caught on because it sounded correct.
There were a lot of questions the QA non people were asking that were kind of legitimate questions.
They were connecting some dots that were there.
But of course, the whole conceit of it was false.
You know, the idea that Trump is a shadow president or, you know, that any of that stuff was real.
It just wasn't.
And that was maybe kind of like the first big wave of that.
And I could even see with some of the criticism of Israel, it starts getting into theories like the Khazar mafia and it starts getting into the Frankists and like all these weird directions.
alex jones
And the U.S. Capitol is actually 8,000 years old.
And yeah, just total cuckoo tom.
nick fuentes
Right.
The kukeri, the tartari, all that kind of stuff, I would consider in the same, the same vein.
And so I think we're in a position now where either the institutions they have a chance at gaining back their credibility.
And I don't think they're going to take it because you look at the moves being made in media and like TikTok is censoring more.
It got bought by Larry Ellison.
CBS brought Barry Weiss in.
So they're getting worse, not better.
What you tend to see in a situation like this is just classic tyranny, which is that the political movement or the political leader that is the most adept at manipulating the whims of the masses, that is the person that is going to rule the roost.
And so whatever form that takes, I don't actually know if it's going to be left-wing, right-wing, economically populist, if it's going to have an identitarian flavor.
alex jones
You just said, interrupt what you're saying.
What you're saying is totally true.
If the establishment doubles down, that is the wrong course for them.
I'm not even defending.
I'm saying for them, it's bad.
But then you awaken a bunch of people, but they don't get informed about how things really work.
Then it creates a black hole of insanity.
And so that's why most revolutions go bad.
Yeah, we're having a revolution.
Yeah, we're awake to the bad power structure, but then you've got to have a new paradigm.
You've got to have a new plan.
And I think that's our job now to present that.
nick fuentes
I totally agree because there's so much anger right now, but it's sort of, it's like you said earlier, it's sort of just like a mindless anger.
And there's something what they're getting at is right.
Like there is a mass awakening.
There is a lot of truth going out there, but you can feel there's like a deep sense of chaos.
There's like a deep, it really is like an I am legion kind of effect.
When the mob gets stirred up like that, and let's be honest, there is a lot of anger.
There's a lot of hatred.
alex jones
Technically said the number one threat of tyranny is the mob.
nick fuentes
It's true.
And that's really what it is.
It's stirring up an angry mob.
And what I don't like about that is it seems that then the person who is going to appeal to the mob the most effectively, that's the one that's going to drive it.
And in order to manipulate the mob, you need to be a sociopath.
You don't actually have to have real beliefs to manipulate the mob.
You just have to pull these levers and push the buttons in a calibrated way.
You know, manipulating.
alex jones
You can't actually fix things.
You just got to manipulate the mob.
nick fuentes
Right.
And that I guess I'm.
I'm becoming more worried about that in a way that I wasn't a couple of years ago.
Because the way things were a couple of years ago, censorship was so total and complete, and the gatekeepers were so powerful.
It's like you.
alex jones
You were the revolutionary then challenging the enemy.
Now the enemy's falling.
Now you be, which is part of the process if you're actually smart.
Now that we are coming into power intellectually, now we have to be the intellectuals.
Now we have to be the aristocrats that actually try to save civilization.
nick fuentes
Right.
We need to catch the falling knife, you know, because we kind of blew the doors open.
We're in the palace.
You know, it's like the end of Dune 2.
Like we're there.
We're in the throne room.
It's very clear.
But we need to be careful, like you said.
And Tucker even talked about this on his show, too.
It's funny how we're all kind of in sync on this.
He said it's important that the, like an animal farm, that the pigs that win the revolution don't become like the human beings that came before, that you don't just get another iteration of that.
And so how do you kind of have a truly new birth, like a baptize a new, a new country with kind of like a new movement?
And I think I said this on Dave Smith, the responsible and mature people, I consider you to be one of them, myself, Dave, Tucker.
I mean, all these people, the responsible and mature people need to wisely guide the crowds, build something institutional and kind of guide the country through the transition.
It's not, the fight isn't over yet.
We're still very much in the fight, but we have to kind of think about that day after.
You know, that's kind of the buzzword.
alex jones
It's one thing to overthrow something.
It's another thing to then build the new future.
nick fuentes
Right.
And you need to do them simultaneously.
It's weird because, you know, a lot of people have this idea like, well, let's worry about beating the enemy.
Then we'll figure everything out later.
It's like, no, you have to be thinking about that damn.
alex jones
You can't just oppose a tyranny.
You have to have an opposing worldview and idea for others to adopt.
nick fuentes
Yes, a positive vision.
And that's really about what I've been working on is trying to figure out.
alex jones
And then I don't want to get into geopolitics and the shutdown because the Democrats are betting everything on this.
They're going to keep it shut down, folks.
Their average constituent doesn't know you need 60 votes for a spending bill.
Let's just start.
We'll finish your point about what your vision would be and then let's address the EBT snap stuff being cut off Saturday.
nick fuentes
Yeah.
So, I mean, in terms of my positive vision, I like to talk to the younger people to watch my show and say, what actually do you know how to do?
Like, if we want to transform and become the American elite, we have to actually enter into the institutions and gain the institutional know-how.
I know a lot of people watch my show.
They could tell me the history of the Middle East and how Israel got us into every war and this and that and the other.
It's like, but do you know about how government works?
Do you know about how society works?
Do you know the first thing about, you know, critical minerals, about the geopolitical landscape?
Because if we want to create this cadre, this political cadre that is going to run the next regime or be the new elite, you're going to need to know a little bit more than that.
And so I'm trying to get people into this idea that it's not just about taking away and subtracting and being anti and against, but it's about saying, what are we for?
And what I'm for is we want America to produce things again.
We want a tariff schedule.
We want subsidies.
We want to decouple from China.
We want to make stuff in America.
And we want Latin America, the Western hemisphere, to be our periphery.
We want to dominate the landscape here.
And I think that if we can get things strained out at home, and that means law and order, that means safe public transit.
That means cities that are livable, that are prosperous.
It means that we have industry.
It means that we have control over the borders.
We're going to have to remigrate a lot of these problematic people that have come here in the past 20 years.
If we can get things settled at home and produce things and be safe and be, you know, have kind of a predictable society again, then we could project power abroad and we can keep our civilization.
That's kind of the rough sketch.
alex jones
By the way, this gives me faith because I know you're really smart, Nick, because I know a lot of history and I'm pretty informed.
It's all I do.
I know people that know what they're saying, people that act like they know, you know.
And I'm giving you a few speeches on there and a few off.
And I'm on, but obviously what I was saying was, I try to post something about China, 95% rare mineral control, which they've cut off now.
And I'm like, I try to post a video.
All I get is cover up Israel, Israel, Israel.
Only thing, no, we can know all about Israel, oppose that.
But to be real masters of this, you've got to know all of it.
And people can't be territorialized and so mindless where they only know about that.
You'd actually know what Israel was doing that was bad or other groups if you actually knew all of that.
And this is the adult discussion because we are winning.
We're getting rid of an old power structure, but now we have to be ready to intellectually bring in the new one that is not just sustainable, but is prosperous and upwardly lifted and just amazing.
And we are there.
And so many people have been in the underdog position.
They're not ready to actually lead and actually be in power.
And that's where we are.
So looking at the Democrats' plans, I think the best way to go with this, and then I'll get into Venezuela, and your great realist breakdown, which I 100% agree with.
What do you make of the shutdown?
We're in day 29 or day 30, and the Democrats, despite the polls against them, going all in on this to cut off 40 plus million people from their welfare checks and EBT and SNAP on Saturday and all the calls for the Podesta plan to be launched.
I agree with you.
This has got to be crushed.
This is a premeditated insurrection plan.
Looking at the angles, how do we counter this?
How do we message this?
What do you think is coming?
nick fuentes
Well, it terrifies me that they're taking away the food stamps because if that's legitimate and they take away all the food stamps, I mean, you're going to get civil unrest.
You're going to get some serious problems over that because people are going to feel it.
And, you know, in some ways, these types of problems are going to present over and over again because the government is insolvent.
So this is a debate over whether we're going to raise the deficit: $2 trillion, $1 trillion.
We're getting squeezed.
Interest on the debt, the debt itself, inflation, imminent recession.
The government is getting squeezed.
And what do you think is going to happen in the future when there's just no money?
And what's going to happen to all the benefits?
You know, what's going to happen to Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security?
So, but I think that in the short term, I think that the Republicans need to get control of the messaging.
They need to get out ahead of this thing.
It's honestly such a sad state of affairs that they have allowed themselves to be blamed for this because the Democrats have made it very clear that they are pandering to their audience.
They allowed the spending bill to pass earlier in the year, and their base was really unhappy with that because they said the Democrats didn't even put up a fight.
And this is Ezra Klein in the New York Times basically said this.
He said, we expect the Democrats to shut down the government really just on accounta, just on account of the Trump administration is doing things we don't like.
So we're just not going to give them the votes.
We're going to shut down the government just to pander to these radical insurrectionists.
alex jones
The right wing wants to ally with Islam and the left that wants to crash the country.
And so literally Schumer is pandering to Bernie Sanders, AOC, and Mondami.
I mean, this is insane.
nick fuentes
It is.
And what exactly is the end game here?
I mean, what is it actually that they want?
I don't even know that they have clearly articulable goals out of the shutdown other than they just want to, they want to stop the government from functioning.
alex jones
They're in this panic mode.
Everyone, record low approval, record low campaign raising money.
No, exactly.
This is just pure throwing a fit.
Trump should address the country and point that out.
I don't think the Republicans as good, they're not, they should be hardcore on this.
nick fuentes
Well, and they're just so disorganized.
That's what's disappointing because across the board, it's an insurrection.
They're getting in the way of ICE.
They're getting in the way of federal law enforcement.
They're attacking federal law enforcement.
They don't want illegals to be deported from the country.
Now they won't let the government function.
And it seems like there's just not a level of organization or coordination or competence coming from the administration to get control of the situation.
And I'm like getting flashbacks from the first term where it's like the government is incapable of doing anything other than making these like gestures towards its base, other than making videos, other than trying to convince the base that they're trying their best.
We want to see them do it.
Trump won.
It's his vengeance.
Like he wanted a landslide.
He got the man.
alex jones
I thank Governor Pritzker for racketeering for insurrection.
He said, resist, fight, block federal agents doing their job.
People want to see that.
It'll fold like a house of cards.
Indict that fat son of a bitch.
nick fuentes
Yes, bring down the hammer.
Bring down the hammer on all of them.
And you need to be in the media.
You need to have a message and you need to have a whole government.
alex jones
The Republicans are still somewhat awake compared, but they're still in a bubble.
No, there's going to be a national orgasm when the gloves come off.
Because again, I tell you, cash, Bondi, they're not even bad people.
They're cowards.
They still believe the left has power.
Crush them.
They started it.
They want to destroy the country.
You explain this well.
Crush them.
Crush them.
People want them to be crushed.
nick fuentes
Well, that's right.
Because look, as long as the Democrats believe that they have hope in this situation, they're going to resist Trump.
In other words, that they're going to get away with it.
That's really the problem is they know the administration is never going to take it seriously.
They know they're never going to face any consequences.
Why do you think these idiots in Chicago or Portland are attacking ICE and DHS?
It's because they know they're going to run away and there's going to be no consequences.
alex jones
And as this continues to happen, Soros judge will let them out.
nick fuentes
Right.
Even if they get arrested, they're going to get released anyway.
And so there's a word for that.
They're becoming emboldened and this is escalating.
And the more that they're able to get away with it, the more they're going to escalate their tactics.
And the federal government, as long as it keeps meeting them with half half measures, we're just sort of holding hands, walking down the street together towards this escalation between federal and local law enforcement, federal and local authorities, and it's not going to go anywhere good.
And that's why I said with Tucker, you need to get ahead of it and you need to crush it.
And by crush it, that means swiftly and overwhelmingly.
It has to be rapid, fast, and it needs overwhelming force.
And the message needs to be, we're not playing.
You can't resist the federal government.
You can't resist federal supremacy.
We're not playing around.
And if the Illinois governor and Chicago mayor, if they want to try and jam this process up, that's unconstitutional.
That's not the social contract.
You're going to jail.
You can't be allowed to do this.
alex jones
Look at Newsow Monday.
He says the feds have no right to oversee elections.
The feds oversee world elections.
It's in the Constitution.
Anybody can overobserve.
The idea that the feds can't, again, people go, oh, you're being pro-Fed.
No, it's the federalist system.
It's the balance.
It's completely out of balance.
nick fuentes
Exactly.
And it's why it's like with illegal immigration.
According to the Constitution, that is the federal government's purview to enforce the borders, not the states, not anybody else.
alex jones
Pure jurisdiction.
Pure.
nick fuentes
Right.
And they're not military.
So you can send border patrol NIs into the cities and you have to let them do their job.
This is like secessionist civil war kind of talk when they say, oh, we need to resist them.
And you have these press conferences where they're standing together.
That's a straight up insurrection.
And the longer you let this go on, it's just going to metastasize and it's going to be harder to put down later in the future.
And it's just going to get worse.
So that's why I've said the admins got to come down and absolutely crush it.
But it's like you say, they're too weak.
They're afraid.
They won't use the tools that they have.
And this is why it was so critical last year.
It's like deja vu all over again with BLM in 2020 or, you know, Antifa at the inauguration the first time.
They will never take the gloves off and just put it to an end.
And they need to.
Like that's the only solution at this point.
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I agree.
alex jones
I watch your show a lot.
I mean, you do like two, three hours a night.
I probably watch an hour a day, but when I'm driving and stuff, but your analysis is only so mine, but it's the same thing.
It's the Monroe Doctrine.
They're killing hundreds of thousands a year with drugs.
They're funding the Democratic Party on record.
They're manipulating elections.
This is not neoconism.
All the wars last 30 years.
This is realism.
This is what we're supposed to do.
So can you spend a few minutes on because people say, oh, you sold out.
Well, I didn't get a check.
I didn't know that.
No, I know the Monroe Doctrine.
I know Thomas Jefferson, the Barbary Pirates, what he did.
This is actually what you do.
A country like Russia got encircled, got invaded, it fought back.
Not saying Russia is perfect, but it's their backyard.
They have a right.
This is our backyard.
What Trump's doing in Venezuela obviously is constitutional.
I agree with you that the response he could be set up with the CIA Bad Pigs 2.0, and we can debate how it's done.
But overall, his move, we're under attack.
These are equivalent of missiles killing millions of people.
You spoke to that.
Can you recap that?
nick fuentes
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, I mean, people, I say this all the time.
I'm not anti-war and I would even call myself a non-interventionist.
I'm a realist.
I think that the United States has this awesome wealth and awesome power.
And there's nothing wrong with that inherently to use that power to secure the interests of America.
And historically, what has always been the strategic interest of America is to control the Western hemisphere.
And the reason for that is very simple.
We are not threatened by Europe.
We're not threatened by Asia.
A big reason for that is because we have the Pacific and Atlantic Ocean separating us.
So, you know, any kind of invasion from a great power over there doesn't have a direct threat against a homeland because we would see it coming.
They'd have this logistical challenge of crossing the ocean.
That changed a little bit with nuclear weapons and missiles, but that still is generally true.
And so what that means then is that in order for America to keep the homeland safe, what we have to worry about most acutely and imminently is the Western hemisphere.
You know, maybe Iran is not a threat because they're literally on the other side of the world, but Venezuela is close to home.
Cuba is close to home.
And the perfect example is the Cuban Missile Crisis.
You have a adversarial hostile regime in Cuba.
And although the Cuban government is not able to challenge the United States directly or existentially, if they're allied with our strategic competitors like the Soviet Union, they could one day host a nuclear missile that's within striking distance of the United States.
And no ABM system is going to be able to prevent that from happening.
alex jones
Euro has 5,000 Russian missiles he's going to use.
He's allied with China.
He's running his mouth.
He's the piggy bank for the Democrats.
You want to cut the Democrats off.
This is bigger than the USA.
And you cut that off.
Exactly.
So this is America first actually coming back.
You're saying if you were president, you're looking at this, you see why Trump's doing it.
nick fuentes
Yes, there is a vital strategic interest for Americans in controlling South Central America and the Caribbean.
alex jones
Not going to the Middle East to blow up the Muslims and then ship them here for Israel.
This is actually in our interest.
You're saying, in general, but you're worried about how it's implemented.
nick fuentes
Exactly.
Exactly.
It's all the difference in the world.
You go to Iraq to make a democracy.
You go to Afghanistan to make sure women can vote.
This is about making sure that in South America, we have across the board, by the way, it's not even just in Venezuela, it's across the whole board.
All these governments that are doing trade with China, they're doing trade with China, and that's the basis of a future strategic relationship.
China is sending them weapons.
They're investing in dual-use infrastructure, deep water ports, radar dishes.
These are all things that we take over.
alex jones
We're being encircled just like the Russians struck back.
It's literally under rule of law, war doctrine.
This is what you're supposed to do.
This is default stuff.
nick fuentes
Exactly.
This is your vital American strategic interest.
This is, you know, people say, isn't the purpose of the military to protect America?
This is protecting America.
These are the Americas.
These are strategic interests.
And so, and by the way, what's more, this has been U.S. policy for 200 years.
It goes back to the Monroe doctrine.
And, you know, people like to say we shouldn't meddle in their affairs.
We've been doing that since the Spanish-American War.
We've been doing that since, you know, there were these banana republics.
Like, we've always been operating in that way.
And that's for a very good reason.
I think that's a whole lot of people.
alex jones
But to be a finer point, the Monroe Doctrine is we don't meddle.
You meddle.
We come in.
nick fuentes
Well, and more, I would say moreover, that the Western Hemisphere is uncontestable American territory.
You know, I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with us meddling, actually.
And maybe we might disagree on that, but I support meddling.
I don't think that.
alex jones
No, no, no, no, I get it.
When we're opposed, when a force moves in, which China has, it's not even meddling.
I get the meddling.
I'm saying it's a defense.
You have to do it.
nick fuentes
Right.
Yes, I understand.
Yeah.
So if China's trying to come in here and you know why they're doing that, then it's our job to kick them out.
So, and like I said, just a little concerned about how we go about it.
alex jones
But let's talk about that.
We come back in two minutes.
Then I want to get into critiques of the Trump administration and what's going to happen to Netanyahu and so much more.
Stay with us.
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You know, it's so refreshing to talk to Nick Fuentez because I talk to senators, I talk to DOJ people, I talk to you name it off air.
I mean, just today, DOJ stopped behind the scenes.
I'm not going to even tell you about it.
It's the good news.
I'll leave it at that, but I can't reveal it yet.
There are a bunch of a diabetes about to drop.
Trump's not playing around.
He's like in quicksand, but he's so strong.
He's getting out of it.
But I know all this stuff because I'm obsessed with this stuff.
It's not like I want to know it.
Once you get into it, you just, I know these guys that know about baseball, football, all that.
When I was younger, I did too.
I don't know about that anymore.
I know about politics.
And it's so scary that most people I talk to don't know what I'm talking about.
I can bring up almost any subject of Nick Fuentes.
And he knows what I'm talking about.
It sometimes teaches me something.
That's what impresses me.
And, well, I'll just move on from that.
It's only got 30 minutes left.
We got a bunch of subjects.
And we knew this.
Nick called it.
Netanyahu, the peace deal.
Oh, we blow up whatever we want and then call it a ceasefire.
That's coming up.
Arctic frost all over.
But just this brief four minutes to the break.
Then some says, join us.
Finishing up.
Yes, Trump, under the Monroe Doctrine and under what Venezuela's done to us and the meddling and the fentanyl, it has a right and it makes sense and it cuts off China and sends a message.
But that doesn't mean I support regime change because I don't trust the CIA and I don't trust them not doing a bay of pigs like 61 when Trump goes in.
What do you think, Nick Fuentes?
nick fuentes
Yeah, I totally agree.
And that's kind of like the nuance there because, you know, like with you, I got a lot of people criticizing me for this take and saying, you're a neo-gun, you support regime change.
And like you, I think we, it's weird how we totally synced up on this.
We recognize there's a strategic value in having Venezuela aligned with Washington and, you know, broader South and Central America being the same way.
At the same time, we're also extremely wary of regime change because what happened in Trump's first term, Trump hits them with maximum pressure.
They try to do regime change and 8 million people leave the country and many of them wind up in Houston and all over Texas, all over Shepherd.
alex jones
The born of the Middle East, bringing the Muslims in.
nick fuentes
Exactly.
Just like the Syrian refugee crisis is the same thing.
And so that's always the concern is you blow up the regime and do you even succeed?
Like, that's the first question.
Does it spill over into America?
Do you get a refugee crisis?
And there's not a great track record of regime change.
alex jones
Can it be successful?
nick fuentes
Right.
Because they tried it for so long and it never worked because Maduro's people are loyal.
They got Cuban intelligence embedded all over the security apparatus.
And so like nobody's budging.
Trump thought the government would collapse with the $50 million bounty, the stuff he's doing now.
There's not a lot of cracks in that regime.
They've been pushing them for 10 years and it hasn't happened.
So what does that look like then?
Boots on the ground?
Does that look like airstrikes?
You know, what are we really, what are we really in for here?
And I wonder if we could resolve this with a deal.
According to the New York Times, Rick Grinnell had secured a deal where Venezuela was going to give us the gold, the oil.
They were going to stop doing business with China, start doing business with America.
Isn't that what we want?
Isn't that what we're after?
But Rubio, who is this anti-communist, you know, he's a Cuban from Florida.
So you get, there's the baggage there.
Well, that's not good enough for him.
He says, no, we need the regime change.
Maduro has to go.
Well, why?
If it's cheaper, easier, more predictable to just get the deal, why do we insist on going in there hot like this?
And it makes it a lot better.
alex jones
But that'll bring down Cuba for sure.
And then Venezuela controls Mexico, so he's the dominoes.
The CIA wants to put the security chief in, which just downgrades it.
I guess if they give the U.S. full control, then maybe a Maduro left because I don't think we take a deal with Maduro.
That can't be trusted.
If they let the U.S. put all the people in and have free elections, then I would support the middle way.
I think Rubio wants the clearest way to topple the regime to topple Cuba and Mexico.
What do you think?
nick fuentes
I agree with that.
I think there's a far-reaching ambition there.
And I think that Trump wants it to be kinetic because I think he, this is classic Trump.
I think he wants it to echo into the other theaters.
alex jones
100%.
Message of China and Russia.
nick fuentes
Right.
And in Iran also, because that's the other sticky wicket: how do you get Iran to come back to the table?
Well, maybe if they see another regime change, because this is what Trump did, I believe in Syria in the first term.
It's classic Trump.
It's sort of like a Nixon-esque, you know, trilateral diplomacy.
So I think that that's another angle.
But I agree with you.
I don't know that we could trust Maduro, but I'm just so weary.
Is there another regime change war really the best idea?
It depends on how Trump goes about it.
So with a lot of reservation, I have to say I'm not feeling so comfortable with it.
alex jones
Or we can just arrest the Democrat NGOs laundering the fentanyl money and put them in prison.
We can also cut the head off here in America.
Nick, we'll be back in 60 seconds.
Stay with us.
Huge question straight ahead.
So Russia has moved dozens of submarines, probably thousands of nuclear bombs and bombers into the zones of attack in Antarctica and in Western Russia.
You have Trump admitting that Zelensky doesn't want peace, NATO doesn't want peace.
Trump said no to cruise missiles two weeks ago.
So now the northern group, that's an alliance of NATO, headed up by Starmer, the pedophile protector, grandmaster, Lord High Protector, says they're going to start bombing Russia as early as next week.
This is insane level stuff.
So there's that going on in the background.
Nick wants to comment on that, tied into this.
It's important.
But Israel says ceasefire back after strikes kill more than 100 in Gaza.
They launched the biggest attack since the ceasefire.
Massive attacks.
Everybody's like, oh, God, Trump, the greatest peace deal ever.
Isn't this great?
Yeah, he's trying.
I'm not taking it away from him, but they've already destroyed most of Gaza.
They've already got this deal to come take it over.
And there's a trust that's going to be run by Bitcoin, not against Bitcoin, but my God, this sounds like this sounds like a 15-minute city hellhole to me.
That's what they're calling it.
And then, and then, okay, we're not going to ship the Gazans, two million of them somewhere.
They're going to be here, but then it's all blown up.
And then they can say, well, you haven't given us the dead bodies, but it's all destroyed.
I'm not defending Hamas that Israel created.
And so this is just an ongoing Israel pulled its tanks out and bulldozers, but keeps bombing.
And then they call it a ceasefire.
Then Israel says, well, the ceasefire is back on.
The ceasefire is off.
And I just look at this.
It was kind of a joke when Trump was at the Knesset.
They're like, oh, great job.
Oh, you got peace.
Well, Trump has gotten peace other places.
He's trying it, but this just seems like a sick joke that is only going to go south from here.
Nick, you've been predicting this would happen.
You've been right so far.
Where do you see this going?
nick fuentes
Well, the reason that I thought this thing would fall apart is because, of course, Israel has no intention of actually ending the fighting.
I think they're the ones that are really driving this.
And if you look at the history over the past couple of years, the pattern's very clear, which is that Israel is always willing to do a first phase or a short-term ceasefire.
They did one in the end of November 2023.
They did one in January of this year.
alex jones
It's a reload like Russia won't give Ukraine a ceasefire as they say it's a reload.
nick fuentes
Right.
It's a reprieve for their ground forces, which are all reservists.
We're not very experienced soldiers.
And they, you know, very low morale, high casualty rate in Gaza.
So this is a chance for them to regroup.
And it's not also just a reload.
That's a huge part of it.
The other part of it is they are engaged in an eight-front war.
I mean, seven kinetic fronts.
They say the eighth front is the psychological information space, but they're engaged in a seven-front, fully regional war.
And what happened right after the ceasefire, and I said this on my show, is that they're going to reorganize and then go on the attack on the other fronts.
And where we're seeing that manifest first and foremost is in Lebanon.
And almost nobody's paying attention to Lebanon, but you've got our U.S. envoy to Lebanon, Tom Barak, is over there trying to implement what was passed in the Lebanese parliament not too long ago, which is the disarmament of Hezbollah.
And under pressure from Israel.
alex jones
We're predicting what's going to happen.
So what's going to happen next?
nick fuentes
So I think what's going to happen next is Israel is going to step it up against Lebanon.
I think they're going to, in the short term, step it up against Iran.
I think they might re-engage Iran with strikes.
And then I think after they finish the job against Hezbollah and maybe they do something with Iran, I think they're going to go right back into Gaza and resume what they were doing before, which is bulldozing all the cities and, you know, pushing the people into a smaller and more concentrated area to eventually kick them out.
I think there's no scenario where they let them stay there.
alex jones
Well, years ago, Jared Kusher said we're going to turn it into oceanfront property, the new Riviera or whatever Trump said.
They're doing it now.
And it's just like, why are we focused on this?
Like, why are we even involved?
Why are we giving Israel the weapons?
Israel's not going to fall from, they stood down on October 7th.
It's just, it's just why my message to all the anti-Jew people is the same thing to all the pro-Jew people.
Like, why is this our culture?
Like, why do we talk?
Why is it about Venezuela and Mexico?
Why isn't it about fentanyl?
Why is it about getting our birth rate up?
Why isn't it about, we have to talk about us?
nick fuentes
I totally agree.
But at the end of the day, I think the security apparatus is preoccupied with this because they know they need Israel to make peace with the Gulf states.
They know they need Israel and Saudi Arabia to be in the Abraham Accords together because that's the only way that we're going to be able to hand off the Middle East to this coalition in the same way we're trying to do a NATO.
And then we could prioritize China.
So we want out of the Middle East.
We want to leave it to them.
But the problem is Israel has not been integrated with all of the neighbors.
So, you know, now Syria has a new regime.
Lebanon is disarming Hezbollah.
In order for Saudi Arabia to come aboard, they're going to need Israel to wrap up this Palestinian thing.
And so for everybody, it's just become like a major inconvenience.
And I know that sounds horrible, but that is how they look at it.
For Trump, he's like, all right, let's just wrap this thing up.
Okay, are you done yet?
Because we need Abraham Accords to go through Riyadh so we could do IMAC and we could get out of here and then we could build up in Taiwan.
alex jones
I think that's really manipulating our internal policy.
It is getting in the way of our overall strategic plans.
That's a fact.
Like, why doesn't Netanyahu even think about the larger picture?
If the West falls, Israel's screwed.
But he doesn't even think about that.
nick fuentes
They're going for broke.
I think they recognize, and they've said this in their magazines.
They've said this in their think tanks.
They say that the situation in America is changing.
America is becoming an unreliable ally because of the political climate, because of the progressive left, because of the so-called anti-Israel sentiment among the younger generation.
And they know that if they're relying on America for their security in 10 or 20 years, there might be a question mark there.
And so I think this is their go for broke.
This is their once and for all push to decisively defeat Iran, all of its proxies, roll up Palestine, and kind of figure out all their strategic problems in one go.
In one, it's going to be tough.
They're going to be under a lot of pressure.
They're going to engender a lot of hatred.
But Netanyahu's basically said it's worth it.
He says, everyone's going to hate us, but we're going to win.
And then they're going to get over it.
And we won't have these problems anymore.
And then we can really take control of the security situation for the whole region.
And so from their point of view, it sort of makes sense, I guess.
It's just that the United States maybe doesn't recognize that they're kind of holding us up.
They're totally set against our foreign policy here.
alex jones
So it would be good for the United States to Israel ally with the future.
nick fuentes
I think they'll be allying with China.
I think they'll be their belt and road, just like Saudi Arabia is.
The Chinese credit will come into the Gulf countries.
The Gulf countries will spend their money.
You know, they have these facilities.
They'll spend the money in Israel.
And I think that, you know, Israel, like every other country, they'll become a middle power and they're going to take what they could get from both sides.
They'll take what they get from America.
They'll take what they can get from China.
And, you know, they'll kind of double dip.
And this is what a lot of countries are doing now.
Under Biden, this exploded when Emirates and Egypt joined BRICS.
Argentina was going to do the same thing.
Brazil is doing this.
You know, security from the United States, credit from China.
So I think that Israel, they're getting ready to ditch us.
That's the thing.
It's like now that we've made them this power, now they're going to say, thank you so much.
They're going to cut the cord.
And then they're going to be able to engage in a region without any real threats.
alex jones
Totally.
And then you've got the pathetic Christian Zionists, as Tucker said with you, that is the most disgusting group.
They don't know anything.
They don't understand anything.
And they just literally worship whoever's in power in Israel.
Shifting gears the time we have left.
Arctic Frost documents came out months ago.
Tulsi Gabbard all of it.
Spying on U.S. senators, spying on Congress, now spying on me without warrants, getting my cell phone, all confirmed.
I talked to FBI.
They looked at the codes that are on this.
It was a total dragnet.
Find money laundering, find gambling, find insider trading, find anything.
Every code is there to all the FBI field offices, get the American people.
I'm actually honored to be at the top of this list with what Jack Smith's doing.
But now this has been released.
We put it through Chat GPT.
It had the same findings.
This is a major scandal.
And will the Justice Department continue to protect itself?
And Todd Blanch, who killed criminal investigations into my persecution?
Will Trump continue to have his blind spot to have Democrat Southern District New York people like Todd Blanche in there from all my sources is the problem?
I mean, what is this thing Trump has about Bill Barr working against him?
He now knows.
Won't even criticize him.
Todd Blanche, all of this.
What do you make of Arctic Frost, these new documents that just came out?
nick fuentes
Well, it doesn't surprise me at all.
You know, those Bill Barr documents came out not too long ago, and it seems just like a rehash of that.
And this has been going on since the Obama.
You're in those.
alex jones
Let's explain that.
You're in those.
Pull up the Bill Barr documents, guys.
Let's put them up.
You and I are at the top of the list four or five years ago to get, and we get more documents.
Same story.
Like, what else does America need to know?
Here are the bad guys trying to get us.
Why?
And then, yeah, back to Arctic Frost.
josh hawley
Right.
nick fuentes
Well, and I was going to say, this goes all the way back even before Trump won the election.
In reality, this goes back to the FISA warrants that Obama sought in June 2016 to spy on Trump Tower.
And it's amazing because Trump is always trying to relitigate this kind of stuff and say, you know, they spied on my campaign and got caught.
Wasn't there a big report that came from the DNI a few months ago that said Obama broke the law?
alex jones
They released the documents that Obama ran CrossFire Hurricane when Trump was president.
So, yeah, we have their ass.
nick fuentes
And yet it seems like nothing ever happens to these people.
alex jones
We've seen the congressman that heads the committee, Representative James Comber, deliver, he said on a silver platter, total proof to Bondi of all their criminal activity and the auto pin and buy to the running.
Just total proof, nothing's being done.
So, yeah.
So, but here's the good news, Nick.
Trump is the pressure's on.
Remember that tweet a few months ago against Bondi?
He's not going to put up with it.
What do you think is going to happen?
nick fuentes
I think they're going to blow it.
I mean, I'm a little more pessimistic than you are, but I think they're going to blow it because for whatever reason, and like you said, it's sort of inexplicable.
He doesn't want to talk about it.
He's not going after these people.
He had no drive to do it in the first term.
I don't honestly see it in the second term.
And he's going after James Comey and John Bolton for this nicky nat kind of stuff.
You know, James Comey lied under oath, John Bolton classified documents.
This is nothing.
I mean, I really am disagreeing with you.
alex jones
I agree with you, but what I have seen is when we light fires under their ass, then we get results.
So it's up to us.
How do we light fires out of their ass?
Who do we need to go after?
nick fuentes
Well, it's Pam Bondi.
It's Cash Patel and it's Trump.
The problem is I don't know even who's listening because there's so much pressure, for example, on like the Epstein files, and then they're not going to do anything about that.
And there's so much pressure about the deportations, and they're not doing anything about that either.
It's like, so I wish, I mean, I would say, of course, you talk about the DOJ, he'd go for the FBI, he'd go for Trump himself, maybe Vance, maybe Vance might listen if everybody loves him so much.
You know, he seems to have his ear to the ground.
He's got his finger on the pulse.
I think he's a very good politician.
Maybe you talk to him.
But honestly, I just, where do you think the motion is in the administration?
Who do you think is maybe has the most?
alex jones
From my sources, Vance is fully awake.
That's why when you've been critical, I get your points, but he gets it.
He knows he's going to prison if we don't do this.
I mean, look, Todd Blanch is a goddamn piece of shit.
So excuse my French folks, but I mean, he is from all my, he is blocking everything.
Pam Bondi just is literally on TV, dumb bond, Barbie 2.0, not trying to be mean.
Patel's just flying around having fun.
And Trump's just got to get rid of these people, man.
I mean, this is like, we're doomed.
I mean, it's so simple.
I mean, I got an FBI whistleblower coming on in about an hour.
Did you know the guy that ran Arctic Frost is still at the FBI?
nick fuentes
Really?
alex jones
Yeah.
nick fuentes
Wow.
We're going to name names.
alex jones
No one even knows this.
Yeah.
nick fuentes
Well, I'll be watching that.
It doesn't surprise me.
This is like the first term all over again when they said on the front page of the New York Times, I'm in the Trump administration and I'm sabotaging it and making sure nothing happens.
It's like, you know, I said it last year during the election.
This is one of my huge hangups and criticisms: that personnel is policy.
And I was not convinced last year that Trump had learned his lesson from the first time, which is you need to gut the deep state.
You need to gut the permanent bureaucracy.
Most importantly, in the intel agencies, most importantly, in federal law enforcement, how can you have, because there was a conspiracy from the top in 16, in 20, throughout the Biden administration.
alex jones
Arctic Frost documents proving a total drag death.
Not about J6, any ground they could find.
The FBI's main mission, find Republican lawmakers in campaign finance or something.
This is literally them hunting Congress, total weaponization.
We need national addresses from Trump.
We need to go to war on this.
nick fuentes
I totally agree.
It's always been like this.
And now we have all the evidence for it.
Everyone always suspected that.
And the evidence has been coming out for years.
And now this is just like the smoking gun.
But where's the messaging?
Again, you know, I just don't, it's very frustrating because I feel the same way that you do about it.
I mean, I'm furious about the whole situation.
We have both gotten the brunt of it, you more than me.
And yet, Trump, who purports to be our defender, I'm your voice.
I'm your vengeance.
Where's the revenge?
alex jones
What do you think his problem is?
nick fuentes
To be honest, and I don't know the sources as well as you do.
I'm kicked out of the administration.
They don't want any of my guys in there.
But to be honest, I think it's him.
A lot of people are afraid to say that because they don't want to cross him.
I think it's him.
I think he's incompetent.
I think he's disorganized.
alex jones
I think that he works really hard.
He has great, I agree, though, economic ideas, but he has 4 million employees.
I know it's true.
He doesn't know.
He doesn't do the research.
We're young.
We can do it.
He just works all the time.
These people kiss his ass.
He doesn't know.
So it is Trump at the end of the day.
So where's the family?
Where's all his other people?
We know they're trying to tell him.
Stop.
They were scared to tell him the first admin about the traders.
I would.
That's why they targeted me.
Folks, we got it.
We got to get the information to Trump because I can tell you how many insiders I talked to go, oh, no, you're right about Tom Blash.
Oh, you're right about this.
Oh, my God, this person, that person.
They could, but if we talk about it, they're going to kick us out.
Well, who fucking cares?
Fire the if you're a sentry on the parapet and the enemy's attacking.
You raise the alarm, you fire, you know, the rocket, you light the watchtower, do your job.
nick fuentes
Well, and where's the turnover?
You know, I mean, this cabinet's totally failing us.
Pam Bonnie should be, she should have been gone a long time ago.
Cash Patel, same story.
In the first term, at least you had some turnover.
At least they were moving people around and firing.
alex jones
Everybody Congress tried to block is who should be the AG like an Ed Martin.
Oh, they let Patel in because he purgured himself in the testimony.
I mean, like 10 times.
He literally, I know if he said, he said, I don't know who Stu Peters is.
He was only interviewed by a dozen times, thousands of text messages, like best buddies.
He said, I don't know who Stu Peters is right there lying to Congress.
Why'd they approve him?
Because they think they got dirt on him.
nick fuentes
Yeah.
Well, and there's a lot of shady stuff going on over there.
alex jones
And I'm living with a billionaire in Vegas.
nick fuentes
Well, and how they handled that in that other situation in Nevada not too long ago.
I mean, it's clear that they're talking about.
alex jones
Oh, let the Israeli go trying to pick up 14-year-old girls.
nick fuentes
Right, exactly.
So, you know, this whole cabinet, the whole personnel, you know, some of them, some of them are better than others.
There's some, like you say, I mean, there are some good people in this administration, but this is not the vengeance cabinet.
Like, let's just say it that way.
This is not the golden age cabinet that we were promised.
And it's not getting better.
So, you know, I think they should go.
I think Pam Bonnie should have been fired.
And it's interesting, by the way, that Laura Loomer changed her tune on that.
You remember there was so much pressure to get Pam Bondi fired.
Everybody wanted her to go.
And now they're saying, well, you know, she's doing a good job.
So this is a lot of nonsense.
A lot of this political stuff going on.
It's just a lot of garbage.
And nobody has time for this.
So, I mean, if I were Trump, I would fire Susie Wiles.
I would fire, honestly, Heg Seth.
I would fire Cash Patel, Pam Bonnie.
I'd let a lot of them go because none of these people, I think everybody realizes this.
This cabinet's kind of a joke and they're not delivering for anybody.
alex jones
Nobody's happy about this.
nick fuentes
I think that Heg Seth is just not solid.
I don't think he's ideologically anything.
What I've been told is that he's basically manipulated.
He's got his alleged some people have blackmail over him.
He had his whole staff purged over Signalgate.
He let that guy, Dan Caldwell, go and a few other really solid people.
So he seems to blow with the wind.
I don't have a ton of confidence in him.
And a lot of this goofy stuff, that whole speech that he did when they rallied all the generals.
I think that was in Washington.
I thought that was ridiculous.
Some of these few cheeky little videos he's doing with the drones.
I just think he's not serious.
I think he's kind of a goof.
And that's not personal, but I just think he's not doing a good job.
alex jones
Well, compared to what we had, I liked this speech with the generals, but we'll talk about that.
Well, you got to come back again because we've run out of time.
We've got to talk about, well, just briefly.
I know you have a lot of history, and I know Joe Stalin compared to Lenin could be seen as a good guy because Lenin was the real persecutor of Christians.
And the Russians saw Stalin as a savior when he came in and killed Lenin.
He claimed he died of a stroke.
But the Russians are smart to give the credit for Russia expanding under this.
I love the woman you're on.
Like, oh, he's from Georgia, Georgia, the country.
You know, all of that.
Come on.
I know you like strong men, but you like Joe Stalin?
nick fuentes
Well, look, you know, I said it on my show.
I think he's an evil guy.
He's obviously an evil, ruthless person signing the death warrants of millions of people.
But what I've always said is he is like the archetypal great man of history.
And the reason being is because he runs a dictatorship within the party.
The party totally controls society.
It's all on him.
The buck stops with him.
And when you look at where he started and where he ended, he gets total power in like, let's say, 1928.
He dies in 1953.
Over this 25-year period, he takes Russia from a total peasant country failing, you know, wartime communism, new economic plan, and he transforms it to this industrial nuclear superpower, bigger than ever.
He's taken all of Eastern Europe.
He's defeated Hitler.
They get the bomb.
I mean, so this is somebody.
alex jones
There's no doubt Stalin was a great man.
But you say Mao Se Tong was or Genghis Khan.
They're going to make the Nazis man like Stalin, too.
nick fuentes
Yeah.
Well, and I think that's kind of a fun reversal because everybody expects me to be the Hitler guy or whatever.
And I tell you the truth.
I mean, I don't even really like the winners.
alex jones
You like the winners?
nick fuentes
That's one way to say it.
Yeah.
I always have.
alex jones
Set up by British intelligence.
All right, Nick.
People find you at Nick J. Fuentez on Rumble.
Thanks for coming on with this.
Amazing, super viral top interview of the last month with Tucker Carlson.
I'd love to come on your show as soon as you're ready.
Come back on ours.
Thank you so much for the time, Nick Fuentes.
nick fuentes
Thank you, man.
Great to be with you.
alex jones
Thank you.
Powerful interview.
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Who's up next?
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We've got my good friend, constitutional lawyer, former Trump lawyer, great historian Robert Barnes on with us, and Kyle Serafin with huge exclusive news on big scandals in the FBI and his response to Arctic Frost documents that were released yesterday by Jim Jordan's committee that he got from Senator Chuck Grassley's committee that was first broke by Breonna Morello of InfoWars yesterday.
But I wanted to get Barnes on about the auto pen information, all of it, the current state of the union.
But I love the idiots out there because it makes them feel official and powerful and go, Jones is a Fed.
Jones is with the all I get sued, attacked, demonized because I'm promoting the Republic and common sense ideas.
And here I am in the Arctic Frost documents released yesterday, the only main reporter where they didn't have any warrant, but they have my cell phone content.
And then you look at the codes I've shown to FBI and I put it through ChatGPT.
They're looking for sports gambling, campaign finance, donations.
They're looking for money laundering.
They're looking for anything.
So what's incredible is they put their own codes.
Jack Smith sending this out in 2022 to all the FBI offices.
Don't find J6 stuff.
Find anything on Trump, his lawyers, and Steve Bannon and Alex Jones and a few other people.
So I'm honored to be on this list.
And I've certainly been given proctology exam to proctology exam.
I'm very straight.
I don't even touch money.
I got CPA, lawyers.
I just do my show, live in a modest house, drive an okay car, you know, eat a steak when I want, but I ain't hurting, but I'm not like, I'm not Daddy Warbucks.
I ain't into cash.
To me, ideology is victory.
Ideology is currency.
But after all the audits and all the attacks and all the stuff, here it is again, front and center, but bigger than me, hundreds of Republican key people.
White House chief of counsels, head Republican Party in multiple states, dragnetted, nothing found, just like Russia gave.
What does that say about Republicans?
I mean, Republicans were never perfect in the old neocon era.
Some were corrupt, but it was always Democrats with the grand champions.
Look at Crockett, you know, with the secret bank account, secret stock portfolio.
She lied.
That's a felony.
Said she didn't have it on its face, insider trading.
These people like project on us that we are them.
Whereas Barnes has been my lawyers off and on for years.
He checked all my stuff.
I mean, it's like, I don't have time to cope with corruption.
My brain doesn't work like that.
Like, here's the system.
Here's the thing.
I don't break laws.
I change laws.
I don't overthrow governments.
I elect new governments because that's the best, steadiest way in history to do it.
So, Barnes, there's a lot to cover here with the auto pin, with Arctic Frost.
But to me, this is so huge, not just because I'm in it, but because this hasn't really hit yet.
We learned this last night this morning.
Even ChatGPT and Gronk run through and they see the codes that are on there.
Most of it's blacked out.
It's every crime under the universe and they're not paying your taxes.
You name it.
How's this a J6 investigation run by the party that ran the J6 Fed surrection?
To me, this is just spectacularly horrible.
Instead, they're talking about, well, you know, they targeted more than just these senators.
And I was watching Fox during the break.
I went out some coffee and they were still talking about, oh, a few more senators got targeted.
No, this is a giant dragnet that was totally tyrannical and then found nothing.
I'm actually very proud to be associated with the Republican Party.
We have literally had proctology exams.
They're arms up our asses and they haven't found anything yet.
This is crazy, Barnes.
robert barnes
No doubt about that.
It's dangerous at three different levels.
One level is just what they decided to criminalize is also terrifying.
The second level is how they used that pretext to do a mass surveillance campaign and secret spying campaign on populist leaders all across the nation.
The third aspect is what was long suspected and what Todd Blanche wrongly shut down is that all of this was a part and parcel of the law fair.
Because look at the name next to Alex Jones' cell phone.
It is the plaintiff's lawyer, Mark Bankston, from the Sandy Hook cases.
So he appears to have been complicit, involved in a conspiracy against federal civil rights using the civil lawsuits that, by the way, how is it they had the cell phone?
I thought Infor's never turned over any records.
Isn't that why they issued a default judgment?
Another lie that was debunked by all of this.
But so just that aspect shows you how all of this was part and parcel of the same thing, to silence and suppress an entire movement to systematically and systemically violate everybody's civil rights, which, by the way, that means every jurisdiction in the country has jurisdiction and venue to pursue a case against all of this.
alex jones
Hold on, this is key because I'll show the documents in a moment.
It says total jurisdiction nationwide, and they investigated civil rights violations and conspiracy against rights, exactly what they did.
robert barnes
Absolutely.
So that means every U.S. attorney's office in the country has jurisdiction to bring a criminal case against all of those that were complicit in this, whether it's Christopher Wray whether it's Jack Smith, whether it's John Brennan, whether it's any of them.
They're all complicit in systematic mass scale.
alex jones
I mean, this makes people a star lawyer like you, because I barely get it.
Explain slowly what you just said, what these Arctic Frost New documents mean, why they're so huge.
Explain that.
robert barnes
So the government systematically violated pretty much everybody's federal civil rights at some level in every part of the country because they sought records, seized records.
I mean, this also reveals, I'm sure Kyle Serafin will get into this.
You had every major FBI office in the entire country complicit in this.
They were all signed off on this.
They all partook in this.
This shows the necessity of a mass purge of the FBI, if not shutting it down all together.
This was illegal activity where they said it was a crime to simply challenge an election.
They said it was a crime to file a civil rights lawsuit about an election.
They said it was a crime to contest an election.
They said it was a crime to petition for people's voting records, like voting files that you're supposed to be under FOIA Open Records Act.
If somebody made an open records act request to get things like the ballots in Georgia, they were put under criminal investigation.
alex jones
And how pissed must they be when that's totally legal and lawful that, and I go back to the first point.
I'm surprised they never found any Republican would be a Russian agent.
You know, they tried to hire me.
I'm surprised.
I said, no, they never, I'm actually, wow, the Republicans are pretty clean.
They've been washing their ass.
robert barnes
Well, this is the populist wing that was under investigation.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
alex jones
We're the people that go against the system at our own detriment.
Obviously, we're clean.
robert barnes
Exactly, exactly.
The deep state crowd, the bill that was complicit in this, people like Ratberger and others from Georgia, they were not put under investigation.
They were pointing fingers at their political opponents.
Literally, the political establishment on both sides, on both parties, used this case to put their political opponents under criminal investigation and further used it as a pretext to mass spy on all of their emails, all of their phone calls, all of their financial records.
If you made a donation anywhere in the nation to anybody doing any research on the elect, whether it was cyber ninjas, whether it was Sidney Powell, whether it was Brad Pascali, whether it was Matt Pack Matt, whether it was any of those people, you were put under investigation.
That literally means everybody was civil rights were violated in literally every single jury.
alex jones
So what do you make?
I think so far, because I'm not all the people targeted, so I don't know, but even the media is saying, even Congress is saying, I'm the only person where there wasn't a warrant.
They were dragnets, but sure, warrants.
With me, there's no warrant, major civil rights violations.
This is a can of worms here.
robert barnes
Well, no, it appears that Mark Bankston provided this information that he took all of your cell phone records that purportedly were for the purpose of Sandy Hook, never had anything to do with Sandy Hook.
I mean, anybody watching that, seeing that could observe that.
And it appears that Banks then turned it over to the federal government and was conspiring with the federal government.
That's a reasonable inference from these documents.
So that means the Sandy Hook lawyers were neck deep in this.
So Blanche, by shutting down the Alex Jones investigation Ed Martin was trying to look into, is covering up for Arctic frost criminality.
That's what he's also doing in that same process.
This reveals, I mean, I agree with Kyle Serifin and the other FBI whistleblowers.
This tells you almost every lead office of the FBI, the special agent in charge and assistant special agent in charge and the local legal counsel all signed off on this.
alex jones
And that's where let's go further.
We have the documents.
The DOJ legally funded it.
That's what Todd Blanche killed.
Now this is a cherry on top of Todd Blanche protecting now Arctic Frost.
robert barnes
Exactly.
And not only that, it raises questions about what the Treasury Secretary is doing.
Scott Bessett, who is he the protege of?
George Soros.
Who is he the benefactor of?
George Soros.
Who made him rich?
George Soros.
We have ties between George Soros and the Sandy Hook funded lawsuits.
We have ties between George Soros and all of the NGOs engaged in riot campaigns, including the so-called no kings movement.
So you aggregate this, but why isn't George Soros being looked at?
Is it because Scott Bessett got rich through George Soros?
He's now doing Soros' bidding in his war against Russia and trying and suckering Trump into getting further involved in that conflict and supporting money for Ukraine.
alex jones
And let's talk about that, but let me ask a selfish question because I don't think I'm that important.
Why are they every damn investigation turns out I've been targeted?
And every time they find nothing, they just double down.
What is their obsession with me?
robert barnes
Oh, it's very, it's what YouGov confirmed 10 years ago when YouGov did a survey and looked at New York Times, followed it up a few years after that, and they looked at what was the number one inspiration for the populist movement in the United States.
And it was Alex Jones.
YouGov showed over 30 million Americans had a very favorable view of Alex Jones, higher than Rush Limbaugh, higher than anyone else.
So that made you a threat.
And then the New York Times asked Republican primary voters, who do you consider a more reliable source of information?
The New York Times or Alex Jones and Infowars.
The Republican primary voters said Alex Jones and Infowars by a large margin.
And that made Infowars a target.
And what they did, kind of like with the COVID mandates, where they used it to rat out and smoke out whoever was an independent thinker inside the government, inside the military, at any level, that's what part of the vaccine mandates were all about.
They used anybody who challenged the 2020 election to target as the excuse and pretext to try to take out the entire populist movement, doing a dragnet, macroscopic, microscopic investigation to try to find any allegations that they could mount of criminality.
And the problem was the populist movement, as you know, is so clean, is so on the up and up, is so honest and ethical that they couldn't find anything of credibility.
alex jones
Because there's literally the people ready, they're almost all Christians ready to go to war, even though they're attacked.
I mean, it's true.
We've been proven.
It's crazy.
That's how God works.
So we've been shown who is the pure.
robert barnes
Oh, no doubt about that.
This confirms that beyond any doubt.
And it shows who the bastards are, to be blunt about it.
The FBI should be called the federal bastard investigation agency.
That's who and what they are.
They are, they expose that they use, they literally try to make it a crime for lawyers like me to file a federal civil rights suit.
This is insanity.
alex jones
I've never seen, even who said when Trump first got re-elected this year, last year they said, any lawyer helping Trump, we will take your license and put you in prison.
robert barnes
Exactly.
And if you even simply made a donation to any voter rights organization, any civil rights investigation concerning the 2020 election.
alex jones
Let's be clear.
You were putting it off as a civil rights lawyer.
You still are.
You're not even what you call a classic right-winger, a classical liberal.
They've come after you.
robert barnes
Correct.
I mean, and I've represented people literally all across the political spectrum in the political and electoral and other spaces.
And they're saying what I do for a living is a crime.
They want the, that's what's unbelievable here.
I mean, this is shocking at so many levels, but it isn't just the mass illicit surveillance.
It's that they were saying challenging an election is criminal is now federal fraud.
It's now a concern.
alex jones
Meanwhile, they're openly saying Trump's going to suspend the election and steal it.
So they're allowed to say it, but nobody else is.
robert barnes
Oh, completely.
I mean, it was all reverse engineering.
It was all confession through projection and multiple layers and levels.
But it reveals how the idea, the entire FBI is rotten at the core.
This is not an agency that has a few bad apples.
It is an agency where the agency itself is the bad apple.
And this proves it, Bion.
Look at all the people who signed off on this.
Look at all the internal emails.
It's literally, nobody says boo.
Nobody challenges it at all.
alex jones
Let's be clear.
It's a total look for any crime you can find, go after lawmakers, campaign finance, gambling, hookers, anything, destroy them.
robert barnes
Exactly.
And what was the basis?
If they ever challenged the election, if they ever raised questions about.
alex jones
They only list people that were fighting for Trump.
And then they literally think those of us that are doing all this are corrupt like them.
robert barnes
Yeah, exactly.
There was a lot of confession through projection.
They assumed that there'd be all kinds of criminality that they would find.
But just the idea that the Justice Department didn't say, hold, they're supposed to have all these internal rules for a sensitive investigation.
They ignored and violated it.
alex jones
Ed Martin intelligence, I've known him for 25 years, people know him.
He's up there 18 hours a day.
His wife understands he never has a key core 18 hours a day.
Like they're trying to investigate him.
This guy's literally a soldier.
But they cannot imagine there's people like that.
They just can't imagine.
robert barnes
Exactly.
And what it reveals is the need to have a mass purge.
There need to be major policy changes.
This needs to never be able to do that.
alex jones
What is the answer?
What should Trump do now?
And let's just say it.
Who are the worst actors?
Is it Todd Blanche?
Who is it?
What do we do?
robert barnes
Yeah, you got to remove Todd Blanche, send him somewhere else.
He's stonewalling and side.
But like, why is this information coming out from Grassley?
Why didn't this come out from the Justice Department?
Why didn't this come out from the FBI?
Why did they hide and sit on these files like they did the Epstein files?
Like they're still doing with the Epstein files.
Why did we need Jim Jordan to give us this information?
It should have come out from the FBI right away.
They should have disclosed how outrageous this is.
And everybody who was, anybody who signed off on this should have been fired for cause.
Anybody.
This was the FBI who's charged with protecting civil rights, being the lead agency violating our civil rights.
alex jones
So where does this cut evolve?
I mean, do you think?
I can get all Trump.
I need to.
It'll take me a week when he'd call me.
But he's exhausted.
What do we do about this?
Because this new documents is just insane.
And we have the cross for a hurricane and the new stuff from Tulsi Gabbard, where Obama ordered it.
We always knew that.
I mean, this is smoking gun.
robert barnes
Exactly.
Trump should tell Cash Patel, everybody who signed off on this is fired, fired for cause immediately.
This was systematic violation of federally protected civil rights.
alex jones
So Sheriff is coming up.
Maybe hold on with him.
He pointed out to me this morning, he goes, you know, the actual head of Arctic Frost was still there.
They just got rid of his deputy.
The son of a bitch is still there.
robert barnes
Not only that, all these local offices that signed off on this, every local office had an obligation to say no, to say this is a civil rights violation.
We're not going here.
Look at how many of them are refusing to prosecute James Comey.
How many of them are protesting the prosecution of John Bolton?
How many of them are protesting the prosecution of Letitia James?
And those are legitimate criminals that had legitimate criminal referrals.
Here, they didn't object a single moment in the internal documentation to any of this mass violation of federal civil rights.
So Kyle Serifin and the other whistleblowers are right.
Anybody that's on that list that didn't object, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire.
This is cause to be the fire.
You've got to have a mass purge of these rogue agents who have co-opted and taken over the hierarchy of the FBI.
alex jones
If we're ever going to do that, what is the Deep States playbook with Trump in America?
robert barnes
Just to play it out, just to keep dragging it out.
Keep them dragging into Ukraine, drag him into Venezuela, drag him into Israel, drag him into these foreign policy conflicts, and slowly, steadily sabotage any effort at reform or remedy with your easy.
alex jones
Look, I get it's within the Monroe Doctrine, and Trump has a right to do it.
I'm not for it compared to all the other wars.
If he does it, I see why he did, but I'm afraid of a CIA setup, bad pigs.
What's your take on Venezuela?
robert barnes
Exactly.
And that's what it all looks like to me.
Fentola doesn't come in from Venezuela.
That comes in from China through Mexico.
I'm not a fan at all of the Venezuelan government, but we got a country that's the size of Texas.
The idea that we're going to easily conquer that's filled with left-wing radicals, right-wing radicals, revolutionaries, paramilitaries, drug cartels, that looks like a disaster inviting President Trump in.
And Narco Rubio of Cocaine Cowboys fame, that's how his family got wealthy, was through the Cocaine Cowboys connection in the 80s and 90s.
We're going to let this guy run foreign policy?
I mean, it just screams disaster.
And for the ordinary American who's struggling to make ends meet, they see all this money and effort spent overseas.
They're like, where's me?
Where's America first?
So it's a big trap.
Trump should avoid the big trap.
There's other ways to deal with Venezuela, other ways to deal with Maduro.
alex jones
I respond to you, and I get it's one that is perview, but so you're saying, well, what does he do about Venus well, then?
robert barnes
To continue to, I mean, Grinnell actually got a good deal.
He got Maduro to capitulate on everything.
So as long as Maduro gets to keep the figurehead of staying in charge, he signs off on everything.
China out, Russia out, all the oil back into the U.S. Just like we just did with Panama.
alex jones
That was what do you think?
robert barnes
What's the deal we got done there?
alex jones
I like Hag Seth.
What do you think?
robert barnes
I like Hag Sith.
I just think he doesn't quite have the cajonas to stand up to the deep state.
And I think Rubio and Bessett have co-opted a lot of Trump's foreign policy.
You can't trust Bessett because of his deep Soros ties, and you definitely can't trust Narco Rubio with all of his neocon ties.
And I think they're leading the president down a primrose path of peril.
I mean, they have him giving a speech today in Korea where he's saying how everything is great.
The U.S. economy is great.
All the costs are down all the way.
It's like, well, that's not the reality.
He's got some things under control, so they're not as bad as they were under Biden, but we're still under Biden's depression for working classes.
alex jones
So what do you make of the EBT shut off Saturday and the no-kings and the podesta plan?
What's threatening America right now?
What's the big.
robert barnes
They're the same people who are behind this.
They've given us a roadmap in Arctic Frost at what we should, what they should have been doing, what we should be doing to them, because they are the criminals who they suspected, they were accusing us of being.
alex jones
And so T.J. James, a master of mortgage fraud, whatever they accuse us, like you said, you said this years ago, and I was like, I knew you were right partially, but no, they only have their knowledge as criminals.
So we have to understand these are real criminals.
Whatever they accuse us, that's their blueprint.
robert barnes
Exactly.
So look at the blueprint of what they were accusing people in Arctic Frost of.
That's what they are guilty of.
That's what the Soros NGOs are guilty of.
That's who really fixed the 2020 election, who really corruptly influenced that election, who's trying to corruptly influence our politics right now.
So look at the Soros NGOs as Mike Ben's details, their connection to the hedge funds, their connection to Wall Street, their connection to these corrupt organizations that are trying to kill the Constitutional Republic of America, and do the roadmap of the real criminality using their roadmap because it's confession through projection.
Just like if you took the allegations against Donald Trump, applied it to the Biden family, you had a roadmap of Hunter Biden and Joe Biden's crimes.
So the same thing here.
Take what they tried to allege about an Arctic cross.
It is true of them.
alex jones
Yeah, because normal people work with a system.
We're trying to change laws.
We don't like them.
The left is all about not following laws.
robert barnes
Exactly.
Mark Bankston should be under criminal investigation for conspiring to deprive people of the federally protected civil rights.
alex jones
Conspiracy against rights, right?
Conspiracy against rights.
robert barnes
Exactly.
Because that's what they're doing.
That's what the Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871 is about.
It's about when public and private participants collude and conspire to deprive ordinary people civil rights.
That's what I believe Mark Bankston was part of in the Sandy Hook Law Affair.
That's what I believe we see with the Soros-related NGOs concerning Arctic Frost.
So we should revolutionize the people.
alex jones
I can tell you they're scared, and this is about to break, so I can say it.
The criminal investigations were not killed.
And it wasn't just, that was a red herring.
There was a whole nother group doing it.
They all know it now.
It's about to break.
But they were all tricked into that.
Isn't that funny?
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