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FULL WEDNESDAY BROADCAST: Top Legal Analysts Warn SCOTUS Ruling Establishes Judicial Dictatorship Over America! PLUS, Democrat Leaders Openly Launch Civil War Plan To Drive Trump From Power As Blue States Begin Succession, LA County Declares Emergency To Protect Illegals, And Top Dems Call For Military To Stage Coup Against Trump! THIS IS MUST-WATCH/SHARE INFO! — FULL SHOW 10/15/25
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judge andrew napolitano
The government fears Alex Jones, who has the largest audience in the country, bigger than any of the networks, the biggest megaphone in the country.
unidentified
The deep state hates Alex Jones with a vengeance.
Alex Jones is the most extraordinary person I've ever met.
jacob soboroff
About how it's not just the pro-immigration folks that are in the streets now.
It's the pro-democracy people.
But I think the three of us, if I should have talked about this before, if I'm not mistaken, I think members of the military, if they haven't already, may very well soon start to turn on this administration because of the way that they're being deployed to the streets.
It's not just the Baronco children of Marciso Barranco, the Marines whose father was beaten by ICE as he was cutting bushes at IHOP in Santa Ana, California, but it's the people from all of these communities from which maybe even Texas they are deployed and being asked to stand face to face with people who come from communities just like their own, asked to enforce the law in a way that they would overseas or in a combat zone with people from American communities.
I can tell you firsthand that members of the National Guard that I've talked to are deeply uncomfortable about having to participate in a mission like this.
And we're not talking about a small constituency.
We're talking about the members themselves.
We're talking about their families who, if you don't think they're talking to their families about this, you know, you're wrong, I can tell you firsthand.
I think that there are more constituencies yet to turn on this administration for the way that they're using the military in the streets, not just for immigration enforcement, but in the context of this democracy.
nicolle wallace
Well, and that's, you know, John Kelly's final warning before the election to America was that what he wanted to do and was blocked by people like Kelly and Madison Mille was to put the military on the streets.
And the reason it's bad, it's bad for a whole bunch of reasons.
It's bad for Americans on the street who shouldn't be policed by our own military, but it's ultimately the worst for the members of the military who in a natural disaster show up to help and in a time of war, you know, go far away to fight.
jacob soboroff
The question I would ask, if I was Donald Trump's opponent, is do you really want a demoralized National Guard all in 50 states across the Union because they're waiting to be deployed to hold long rifles up against their neighbors in between ICE detention centers and protests on the street?
That is something for everybody, I think, who's joining the military today, 17, 18, 19 years old, to think about that they may be deployed for that purpose rather than the one that they think is a noble calling to stand in defense of this nation abroad.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, it is Wednesday, October 15th, 2025.
I'm your host, Alex Jones, and there's no doubt that they've launched the Podesta Plan.
They are implying the legal lawful activities of the executive branch using the military in areas that are lawless and out of control, the Democrat-run uprisings to aid federal officers in doing their jobs.
And they're branding it as total tyranny and just absolute, total, and complete evil, as we knew they would do, because in the Podesta Plan, they said that's what they would do.
And then the last ingredient is going to be staged false flags on these communities to be blamed on President Trump, then the country burns down.
Let's put the full live show headline on screen so we can lay this out for folks here today.
Then there's a lot of other information we're going to be covering.
Wednesday live, blue states begin secession.
LA County declares emergency to protect illegals.
Top Dems call for military to stage coup against Trump.
The second civil war has begun.
This is an emergency must-watch share broadcast.
Now, that doesn't mean that they're going to be successful.
But they are certainly trying it.
And this is a time of maximum danger.
They're also getting ready to stage big false flags on Russia.
Wait till you hear this.
The British government claims Russia is going to attack London with drones with no evidence.
It is Wednesday, October 15th, 2025.
I am your host, Alex Jones.
There's your headline up at Infowars.com.
Blue States begins secession, carrying out the Podesta Plan.
LA County declares emergency to protect illegal aliens.
Top Dems call for military to stage coup against Trump.
The Second American Civil War has begun.
This is an emergency.
Must watch, share, broadcast live feeds on Rumble at the Alex Jones Network channel, as well as real Alex Jones on X, Infowars.com forward slash show for now, though we are very close to that being shut down.
As you just saw, the Supreme Court refusing to hear the case after it got to the full judge as it made it past the first two layers of lawyers.
It said, Yeah, this is, you need to see this.
And they said, Nope, looking at it and not responding.
When we had the greatest case, I mean, mainline top lawyers, you've seen them all the news, talk about it.
The literal most kangaroo, insane-rigged trials where I was already guilty and all of it conducted and produced by HBO that anyone's ever seen.
I mean, it's even worse than the stuff they pulled on Trump.
And they just did it to Mike Lindell.
Judge just found him guilty, defaulting him, $1.5 billion.
And I guess the Supreme Court won't hear that and say, hey, just go ahead and selectively destroy whoever you want.
That's tyranny.
But you know what?
The numbers meant to be so big to sound big.
I've never had $10 million in the bank.
So it might as well be $85 trillion.
I shouldn't joke.
They asked for $2.76 trillion.
$276 trillion.
I'm sorry.
It doesn't even sound real.
Yeah, they asked in the case.
He said, Your Honor, we've like $276 trillion.
Or was it $2.76?
I can't remember anymore.
You know, these numbers are so big.
It's just bonkertown.
But it's the great and mighty Oz there to intimidate you and try to blast you into submission.
Yeah, it's $2.75 trillion.
Excuse me.
When the numbers get that big, you can't blame you for it all just kind of swirling around.
The GDP of India every year, 2.75 trillion.
Okay.
Let me tell you what we got on the plate here.
You know, we got lots of interesting videos, Charlie Kirk's wife being honored at the White House.
And we've got Trump again saying that, no, I don't think he'll make it into heaven.
And we've got, you know, all sorts of crazy leftists doing nutty things.
It's all very entertaining, all very interesting, all very thought-provoking and important.
But the Democrat Party, funded by the globalists, have a plan for civil war in America.
And the plan has not been going well.
And this Saturday, they're launching their no-king/slash antifa uprising again.
And we've got Chuck Schumer a few days ago calling for forceful uprising, close quote.
Forceful uprising.
And you've got all these other top Democrats saying it.
You've got them on MSNBC saying we need the military and troops to turn on Trump.
That's a coup.
So there's a lot of this.
But most importantly, you have the blue state secession beginning just as the Podesta Plan said they would.
And then in the movie they produced, Civil War, that's based on that.
And in the statements Newsom made three weeks ago on Colbert, he goes, We're launching the Western Alliance.
That's the name in the Podesta Plan and the movie of the West Coast secedes first, then the East Coast joins.
Then the blue cities join.
And then the U.S. military joins them.
And they march across the country, killing all the white supremacist, literally, because that's the white people are.
And then they kill the Trump figure in the White House, the black female sergeant does.
So this is their plan.
And so he goes on, Colbert, and he says, We're launching the Western Alliance.
We're launching the offensive.
And everybody just yells and screams and just loves it because they've all been told what this is.
You go to Democrat Rally, they said, wait till the massacre of our people happens.
Then the Western Alliance forms and we will overthrow you.
I mean, it's their movie.
They go eat popcorn and this is what they believe is going to happen.
Now they got battle after battle out about how you got to go dynamite and kill all the feds and got to blow up all the federal buildings and got to kill the ICE people because why they got people in concentration camps in there with Leonardo DiCaprio.
So Scott Adams, who's a really smart guy, is like, this no kings thing this weekend's going nowhere.
And I agree.
But you had Tim Walls employee going around killing the state senators and House legislators and then saying, I was doing it to do a false flag so Tim Walls could blame Republicans And my accomplices, you know, didn't do their job, which I predicted it would be.
I mean, people, you don't hear about that story anymore in the news, do you?
Within two hours of it, Trump and I have both been blamed by people on the ground there, his roommate.
So, yeah, they're meant to fizzle.
They're meant to get attention and talk about how we live under Hitler and talk about how Trump's a Nazi and talk about how the white people are all white supremacists and need to die.
And then somebody's going to mow down the illegal aliens or the no-kings protest or blow up a traditional black college.
And remember, months and months and months before you hear anything about black colleges, I said, that's a prime target.
Because in their talking points, they kept saying Tom Holman and ICE and the military are going to kill before they put troops in the streets, are going to kill migrants en masse.
Nobody's going to do that.
You're not going to say it's a false flag.
That's ridiculous.
Then they say, and they're coming to kill masses of black people.
Well, where's the biggest group of black people, traditional black college?
Something like that.
Or, you know, maybe some black festival or something.
And so now you can see it all set up, all prepared, and that's the last piece.
And will they launch false flags this weekend?
I think there's a very high probability of it.
I said five days before the Minnesota attacks by Tim Walls' operative, according to him, were meant to be blamed on Trump and his supporters, which they did within hours of the script.
And then weeks later, the FBI, you know, okay, fine.
He got it out through his lawyer.
He says he works for Tim Walls, which he did work for Tim Walls.
He says he's been doing it for Tim Walls.
I said days before, I said, you know, maybe they'll kill some of their own lawmakers and blame us this Saturday.
Now they'll probably find that guy will have a laptop saying he loves me.
Exactly happened.
So, you know, it's, it's, I'm just sitting here just trying to wargame the next shoe to drop.
And I'll be doing a special live Saturday broadcast.
I'm going to wait a little bit later in the day so there's more developments that have unfolded.
But we'll go on about two o'clock Saturday, 2 p.m. out of the Alex Jones Network backup system that's about to be the system with all that's going on.
So we've got that happening.
But let me be very clear.
I haven't gotten to the big points yet.
And I know most of you already know all this.
You've seen it for yourselves.
You don't need me to tell you.
You're like, yeah, we know this.
We have hundreds of thousands of new people every hour, conservatively, tuning in different ways that are hearing this for the first time.
So I'm talking to the lost sheep out there.
I know you know.
This broadcast is more of an emergency beacon that's flashing warning, warning, warning, warning.
Like if a nuclear reactor had melted down and getting anywhere near its deadly, they just have these alarms going off and they triggers a radio transmission in the area and flashing signs saying, hi radiation, don't enter.
And then there's recording saying, don't enter this area, deadly for humans.
This broadcast is just really just an emergency beacon.
Look out.
Look out.
Here's the plan.
Here's the plan.
And so you already know the plan.
Good.
Go tell other people the plan.
I'm just, I'm finally getting the Pentagon to listen.
I'm finally getting the White House to listen.
I'm finally getting them to understand.
And we literally have the Podesta plan.
It's being implemented.
And Newsom is on TV holding up a sign saying we've launched the Western Alliance and the offense is about to begin.
And then he goes, oh, it's for migrants in healthcare.
And now, what did I say three weeks ago?
I said, now New York and Boston, Massachusetts, they've joined the alliance, just like the movie.
And the Podesta Plan, it begins with an alliance over health care and protecting migrants.
This was written in 2020.
And so, yeah, we're lighting the brush fires.
We're warning the people here.
So you now have the Western states announcing they're launching the Western Alliance.
Now the East Coast is joining, just like the battle plan, just like the movie.
And then you have this.
You have Chicago saying it's time to rise up, fight back.
Citizen militia forming.
And this, LA County declares state of emergency over ICE raids, will pay rent and provide legal aid to illegal aliens.
Now, there are already in California other states giving illegal aliens $30,000 for their first mortgage that citizens don't get.
Free health care, free education, because they want to incentivize them here to be good voters.
And it's already happened.
And for state apportionment in the House of Representatives through the census, giving them at least 13 new seats under what's happening.
So this is their checkmate move.
And Trump's doing what's constitutional and what must be done to save the Republic.
But they're all over the news saying it's criminal, it's illegal, they're Nazis, they're Hitler.
Why?
I'm surprised more illegals haven't been killed with them shooting up the vehicles and attacking ICE and trying to run them over and ramming them and all the rest of it.
I mean, some have been killed in the shooting up of the ICE facilities on a weekly basis.
And so they're on the news.
Why?
When the ICE came, the dog, they don't tell you the police report that the pit bull attacks ICE, so they shoot it.
It's and the family dog was killed by the and the poor California man and California woman who were legal aliens were so sad.
Or there was broken glass and it fell on the baby in the car.
They don't tell you the guy's got 10 felony convictions.
They just grabbed him coming out of the state jail and that they were he was resisting.
And they never mentioned the hundreds of thousands, millions of dead Americans from fentanyl and the tens of thousands dead from illegal alien drunk drivers and tens of thousands dead from murder and rape and all the carnage and our dead reporter and all of it.
No, there's never any humanizing that.
It's just, oh, and then this man was, you know, out in front of Home Depot and he got grabbed in front of his wife and it was so mean and people aren't going to pull up with this.
So we need an uprising and we need the military to turn against Trump and we need to have the Western Alliance.
So now they're declaring emergencies all over the country, not just California.
First they say it's, oh, sanctuary city and state alliance.
Then it's oh, for healthcare alliance.
Oh, yeah, all the things Trump's doing.
The blue states are coming together saying we're going to have our own governance, our own system, and we're going to ignore you.
And Podesta said, first it'll start on Sanctuary City and healthcare.
And that's how, oh, we're an alliance.
We don't follow what the law and under the federal system areas the feds have the jurisdiction, like illegal aliens and healthcare policy and law.
But see, it starts with, oh, it's just an alliance.
And that's how Podesta says it starts in the plan.
And then there's a massacre of liberal protesters, of antifa, of illegal aliens.
That's it.
That's in the plan.
And then in the movie.
And then they give the order to the left to burn it all down.
Then the military is out there getting shot at.
The firemen are.
Everybody else is.
And then there's a real battle.
And then corporate media will be, oh, my God, it's Hitler.
Oh, my God.
And then you'll have the big false flags on top of that.
And so this is set up, ladies and gentlemen, and this is going down.
Now, because we have such hyper-awareness of it, and because we've been warning people so much, they're going to have a problem executing it.
And now they even get it off the ground.
It's like a plane kind of takes off and then the engine goes out and crashes.
I don't think they're going to get it off the ground right now because they're so exposed and so demoralized and that some of their funds cut off.
And we have so many people throughout even their own systems now and whistleblowers that they got big problems.
But or that may make them even more desperate.
They may go ahead with it.
The point is, even if they get this thing off the ground, it's taking off with basically no fuel.
So we're like taking off with a jumbo jet on fumes and the plane gets to a thousand feet and out goes the engines and boom you're doing a big belly flop.
So but it's extremely dangerous and it's on.
And that's why you got Democrats headlining around the country for uprisings and for forceful uprisings.
And you notice the rhetoric is five times more vicious than it was in June.
That No Kings was just a beta test.
And so now they're really going into high gear.
And again, No Kings is just the new name of the Islamic Black Lives Matter, Soros, Trantifoot, Antifa, American Communist Party, Democrat Socialist Party, garbage.
And Schumer saying, I'm keeping the government closed because I want people to be angry.
And then on the other side of his mouth, he says, no, no, no, no, we're not, we're not shutting things down.
The Republicans did it.
Democrats in the Senate are the ones that voted to do it.
It's on record.
But again, that's their disdain for us like we're so stupid.
So imagine illegal aliens are above the law and will pay for your housing and your health care and everything.
LA County, bankrupt California, tens of millions in debt.
But don't you worry.
We're going to give everything free to all of you because you're so precious and you're victims of these big, mean men coming here to get you.
And you've been imported here to lower the wages as a permanent underclass to then be apportioned so Democrats get more seats in Congress and to vote illegally and to be permanent voters.
And the Democrats admit that's their plan.
And then we're supposed to just sit by and watch you do it.
And then you make it all racial because that's what the left does.
And that's where we are.
And it goes on and on.
Pritzker finds his place at the ramparts up on the castle wall of the Trump resistance.
You can walk upstairs.
Blue states are setting up a shadow public health alliance to counter RFK Jr., the Western Alliance.
California now joins it.
Tim Wall signing laws so legal aliens can vote, telling them they can vote.
Remember Obama famously in 2016 told illegals, if you're here, you can vote.
You look at Drudge Report, Chicago fights back.
Oh, yes, they're fighting back.
LA state of emergency ice kills family dog agents hunt Walgreens.
Oh, the best they got is a dog attacking somebody.
Oh, do we hear about the Dead Board Patrol and Dead Ice or the ICE vehicles getting shot up so two illegals die?
Oh, that got shut down real quick.
Some crazy anti-fa-communist up on a rooftop.
But, oh, we got a dog.
Well, you wait till they mow down a couple hundred illegal aliens and truck bomb a black college.
And then they produce the Patsy.
It is coming.
They're certainly going to try it.
It is just the final ingredient.
Now, I want to get into Mondami and how this all ties in and what we can do to stop it.
And then the other side of this, they're now saying that Russia is going to attack London with drones with no evidence.
That's gearing up before the false flag.
But I wanted to play a short report, just a reminder by the facts here.
SB1, the Podesta plan, has launched a special report.
I was talking to Tucker Carlson.
This is very, very important.
Then, coming up today, Viva Fry, Robert Barnes, Roger Stone, your calls, and more.
And so many other big subjects I haven't hit, but I needed to hit this up front because this is one of their last moves.
We're winning, folks.
But if we don't keep our head on the swivel and if we don't expose how bad our enemies are and what they're capable of, they can hit us with our pants down.
Here's the report, and we'll be right back.
Stay with us and share the live feeds.
tucker carlson
What is the Podesta plan?
alex jones
Well, when I talk about this, I get chills because in August of 2020, Reitbart wrote about it.
The Daily Caller wrote about it.
But the New York Times wrote about it first.
And Podesta does this big Democrat Party war game.
tucker carlson
Which Podesta?
John?
alex jones
John Podesta.
tucker carlson
Former White School of Staff.
alex jones
Yep.
Absolutely.
And then later, the climate czar for Biden or giving up the climate money, stealing it.
He comes out of this huge report.
They publish the whole thing.
And I'm reading like this, like 70 pages or something.
And they say, if Trump wins in 2020, this is in August, months before, which they were able to steal it, so he didn't.
He said, we're going to have Western states secede.
We're going to have blue cities secede, but we'll start with the Western states, California, Oregon, and Washington.
And we'll call it over migrants and sanctuary cities and healthcare at first, which they're now doing.
I'm getting chills because it's all happening.
Like you go to a play and you're reading, oh, the next act is this.
And Romeo and Juliet.
I mean, it's all right there.
And they say, if he wins, we will say it's illegitimate.
We will have blue states first secede and that they're going to be sanctuary cities for the illegals.
Then when there's civil unrest, which they'll furnish, Trump will send the National Guard and then there'll be a massacre of the migrants.
And then we will kick off a civil war.
Then all the blue cities across the country will secede.
Then New York, Massachusetts, and others will secede.
And we'll form what we call the Western Alliance.
And we will then, the U.S. military will be with us because they control the generals, people that don't think otherwise.
That was Trump's big mistake.
He found out.
Most of them are globalists at the top, not your enlisted.
They're great people.
And that they would then form a military alliance if Trump did to stand down and they would march on D.C. And then they made a movie produced two years ago they released last year called Civil War that is the last act of the Podesta Plan.
That's in a two-plus-year Civil War race-based.
At the end, they go and, you know, the black female sergeant kills the Trumpian figure in the White House.
And that's because evil white people are not massacring brown people across the country.
So the U.S. military reconvenes under Gavin Newsom's command.
And then they come in and then they take over the country and then they re-educate all the evil right-wingers and evil white people.
And then I saw Gavin Newsome on Colbert about three weeks ago and he said, oh, we're forming and they hold a map up, the Western Alliance.
rob dew
Western Alliance, Western Alliance.
alex jones
And it's for migrants and healthcare.
And we're getting ready to go on offense.
And the whole crowd goes, because they're all red in on this.
They all know it is the Podesta Plan.
They all know it's the Western Alliance.
They all know it's the Western offense.
rob dew
What do you call this?
tucker carlson
You call it West Coast offense?
It's a Western Alliance.
alex jones
And so you had the Soros NGO-funded No Kings events.
We now have Schumer on Monday went on MSNBC and said, we need to have a forceful uprising.
We need to have a forceful uprising.
chuck schumer
Every American, I don't care if you're Democrat, Republican, liberal, conservative, moderate, people should be forcefully rising up against this, speaking out against it, and making it clear how inimical this is to what our democracy has been for, stood for for more than two centuries.
alex jones
This is chilling.
And he said he wants to keep the shutdown going at least until next Saturday, the 18th, to get the maximum amount of anger that they can get.
You have Hakeem Jeffries saying similar things.
So they're not even hiding any of this anymore.
tucker carlson
So the idea is to whip their supporters into a frenzy, basically do BLM five years later.
alex jones
Yes, but on a much wider scale.
peter navarro
So why don't you just keep your mouth shut?
unidentified
Oh, because you showed up.
margot in florida
Is that the way to talk?
peter navarro
You showed up.
unidentified
You voted.
peter navarro
You can extend it right now.
hakeem jeffries
Permanent extension of massive tax break.
unidentified
Is that right?
90% of Americans take the standard deduction.
margot in florida
If you had your way, the standard deduction would have been cut in half.
peter navarro
That would have been a massive tax increase on Americans.
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The left, the top Democrats openly calling for forceful uprising, close quote.
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I want to walk through the rest of the Civil War plan that I cannot believe is the official Democrat Party plan since August 2020.
I don't know.
They said they implemented it 10 months ago when Trump was getting in.
You played the clips many times.
And now they're following the rollout exactly like the plan in the movie.
And they say it's their plan.
And we have their plan.
So if some of you are sick of hearing me talk about it, well, I'm sorry.
I got so many incredible clips, so much amazing news, and we'll get to it.
But this is happening.
And when you turn on the news and a truck bomb blows up a sports stadium, say at a black college football game and kills a thousand black people, and there's footage of babies blown up with their arms and legs blown off, like we saw outside Oklahoma City, it's going to be real bad.
And if we don't get out ahead of this, people are going to buy it.
So, or you're going to be driving home from work and hear, oh, did you hear about the mass shooting in Chicago or Denver or Austin or LA?
And you're going to hear 300 shot, 100 and something dead.
Trump supporter opens fire with automatic weapons.
The man in the MAGA hat was shot and killed by police, something like that.
So the fuse is lit on this thing.
I'm sitting there trying to put it out with enough attention on it.
That's how you do it.
But it's about to go right into the pile of dynamite.
And there's not much time.
It's going pss.
And I've been sitting there in the last year going, look at it.
They lit it.
Sir, Plimps.
This is a board.
And now the fuse is about an inch long.
And I'm watching it.
unidentified
Go.
Boom.
alex jones
And then we're in a whole nother ball game, boys and girls.
And the globalists always produce these plans, war games, then make movies about what they're going to do.
And it's for their own constituents to feel powerful and know they're all part of it.
That's why we caught all these videos of Democrats at demonstrations going, you just wait till you mow a bunch of us down.
That's when it all goes down.
And then the Civil War starts.
We're going to kill all of you.
They're red in, folks.
That's why you heard on Colbert with the Governor Newsom, Patrick Bateman.
He was like, yeah, we've launched the Western Alliance from Western offense.
Everybody goes, woohoo, yeah.
And Colbert's like, because he's best buddies with Podesta.
hang out vacation together.
unidentified
Oh, they got a blend, don't they?
Woo, boy.
alex jones
Real funny.
Couple American psychos up there.
And remember the UN and HOTES and Fauci said, we got to round up the anti-vaxxers.
We got to have martial law next time there's a pandemic.
And now Fauci says there's about to be a new pandemic.
And they're going to have to lock things down during it.
So they're going to have that piggy backed in.
And that's also part of the Western Alliance is their own database, their own systems that they're not going to follow whatever Trump says to do.
So they can bare minimum just lock down all the major cities.
They control all the major cities and some of the most populous states.
So it's got that COVID or some new virus 2.0, which the UN and the globalists have said they would use disease X's for domestic control if there was ever uprisings against the globalist.
The EU, it's been leaked a decade ago that if there was ever an uprising or countries pulling out of the EU, yeah, look at the faces.
That's demonic possession right there.
Colbert.
And when he gets with Podesta, in videos, they always make these faces together.
And just so people that don't know about Satanism, I do.
That's demon.
Put it up.
That's the face you see when you're strapped down on an altar and somebody comes in with a dagger to start slicing you up, just so you know.
That is the Joker.
And if you look at the full photo, most of them are making that face, and they do it in a lot of them.
That's Jack Nicholson out right there.
unidentified
That's El Diabolo.
alex jones
That's why he's best plays with Obama.
These people are Satan worshipers.
110%.
And I know most of you never run into this, so you don't understand it.
I have run into it.
And that's a whole other long story I've told before.
But you never got lured into a satanic ceremony or anything.
Most people got hoods over their heads, but the high priest and other people known.
And that's the faces they're making right there.
I mean, I mean, that's it.
So, you know.
That's like in the remake of the Twilight Zone in the 80s, where he picks up the hitchhiker.
He says, you want to see something really scary?
Want to see something really scary?
That's what it is.
You need to understand, ladies and gentlemen, what you're dealing with.
Pull up Brian Stelter demoning out.
unidentified
Pull up.
alex jones
Pull up Brian Stelter doing it.
Jack Nicholson made hundreds of millions of dollars because he can make that face.
Ugh, that's what you're dealing with.
And that ain't a human right there.
The lights are on, but no human is home.
That is an interdimensional gremlin.
Yeah, the Martians don't come in tin can flying saucers, folks.
They come interdimensionally.
Yeah, there you go.
Not a very nice creature.
Yes, John Podesta, we will have the seven, eight, and nine-year-old delivered for your entertainment and pleasure to the hot tub in the wooded area.
No one else will be there for your entertainment.
They're well-trained children, but remember, they're still children, but they will follow your directives.
So liberal.
It's also in there about, oh, oh, another little smiley face.
He's not, you know, fully pumping it out.
He knows how to control himself a little better.
Can you imagine when Newsom turns on the full demon?
That's a scary face right there.
And we all archetypically see it and know it because in your DNA, you know.
Newsom can't even get the look off his face, but it's just a shadow of what's there behind the scenes.
Give you an example.
You ever seen that 80s movie Fright Night when the guy, the vampire turns fully into the vampire?
What looks like that?
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
It gets a lot worse than just what they're flashing to you.
And I'm just spending some time on this.
You know why they're so evil?
Why are they so bad?
Because they're demon possessed.
unidentified
So.
alex jones
That's what we're dealing with.
Yeah, no, that's not the head vampire.
You got to get the head vampire transforming.
You want to get the look I'm talking about.
But it's just, just get him off the screen.
I can't look at these things anymore.
So, excuse me.
Now, getting back to where we were, Fauci has crawled out from under his rock.
Hadn't really been seen a year to say, oh, the new pandemic is coming.
You will learn.
So is Bill Gates.
And so, how'd they deal with Trump the first time?
Release a new virus that was novel, that didn't make people sick, that was man-made, so it freaked out everybody.
Then they have the shot that actually triggers, you know, 100 times worse, the destruction of people's bodies and immune systems.
And so you got Hotez and the rest of them saying Trump will be challenged by a new pandemic, and we need to round up and arrest the people that aren't for the new lockdowns or forced injections because they're terrorists.
And I'll show you again when they said that.
So it's not just blow up a black college or black football game.
It's not just shooting about an illegal alien administration or a no-kings event.
It's also release a new virus.
And I mean, look at these guys.
I mean, Hotez is like a Renfield demon.
I mean, there's different ones.
You learn how they are.
That's a.
Oh, please, master.
May I have some rats, some rats?
I want a child, Master.
And you got Dracula boss right over here to the side.
But I mean, these are ultra-evil people.
That's what Fauci's name means in Italian, Grim Reaper.
Or the sickle.
So they're getting ready to make this move.
And they got cyber attacks they can launch to and blame it on the Russians.
And that's coming up.
The British government says, oh, the Russians are about to hit us with drones in London.
Told you that was coming.
Oh, they're going to hit European cities.
Oh, the Russians have sped snatched in all the cities, and they're getting ready to do mass casualty events, truck bombs, mass shootings, and drones.
Imagine a group backed by the Russians hit 10 Downing Street with high explosive drones.
We go into full nuclear war.
The Russians don't want to go to war with the world.
They want NATO off their porch.
But that's all the other big thing we're dealing with.
So we've entered the house, the time, the zone of the false flag because the globalists are losing on every front.
And now this is the only move they've got left.
Here's Fauci just a few days ago.
A new pandemic is coming.
Watch.
anthony fauci
And then there's the transformative, if I might use that word, experience that we've all had now in year five of COVID.
So the thought that we won't have another pandemic, I think, is naive at best and just completely unrealistic at worst.
So to rephrase your question, I'm convinced that there will be another pandemic.
And that's the reason why we have to be perpetually prepared to prevent the terrible impact of a pandemic.
alex jones
So translated, give us all the power and we'll protect you.
Now here's Hotez.
California announces coalition of governors forming a new alliance to protect public health from political interference and say they're going to do lockdowns, they're going to do forced injections.
They're just going to ignore that.
That's called secession.
And then remember what he said.
Vaccine scientists warns anti-science conspiracies, this is the guy that said it was 100% safe and effective, have become a deadly organized movement.
And the head of the UN program says we need to all be arrested.
He says this too.
So that's what Hotez is pushing.
Anti-vax activism, which I actually call anti-science aggression, it's aggression, not letting input stuff in your body, has now become a major killing force globally and needs to be outlawed.
And that's what Newsom says.
There's all this disinfo and all these groups, and we're not going to let people in our Western alliance be part of that.
See how it works?
See how it works?
LA County declares a state of emergency over ICE raids, will pay rent and provide legal aid.
Los Angeles County has declared a state of emergency over ongoing ice raids, and it's going to pay for legal aliens' rent and will provide rent relief for tenants who have fallen behind as a result of the enforcement actions targeting people living in the United States illegally.
And they're going to pay for their legal and more with taxpayer money.
Pritzker finds his place at the ramparts.
That means up at the top of the castle in the war with Trump and the resistance.
Blue states are setting up a shadow public health alliance to counter Trump and RFK Jr.
Giving all the illegals drivers' license and telling them to vote.
ICE is cracking down on Chicago.
Some Chicagoans are fighting back.
Oh, with militia patrols.
Everyone's welcome in the businesses, but ICE.
Federal judge orders ICE to take down security fence at Broadview, Illinois facility.
You can't even have walls around your own facility.
Starting to figure it out.
They're making their move.
They captured the blue cities through election fraud and they don't want to give it up.
I want to play a clip here.
Dealing with Antifa.
I got a whole bunch of clips on Antifa I'm going to be getting to.
you Let's play Mike Ben's clip 19 dealing with cutting off the funding.
And he's absolutely right.
And now we have the Treasury Secretary saying the same thing.
They're now actually taking action.
Here it is.
mike benz
Is USA doing any of this stuff in America?
It's all supposed to be foreign.
What they'll do is they'll fund an organization to do global work, but then it also does domestic work.
Like, for example, take something like the Tide Center, which is this big international NGO.
It's closely associated with George Soros.
The Tide Center operates domestically with these Soros prosecutors and BLM and all these different groups, antifa-related groups, climate-related groups, all these groups that do like street paramilitary action.
But they get all this money from USAID.
I think they got $27 million worth of grants.
Of that, like $22 million were for grants to, quote, secure concrete commitments from foreign governments on civil society matters.
They're basically being paid as an intermediary for the U.S. government to do shadow diplomacy on behalf of the U.S. government.
So that's like funding their coffers.
That allows them to essentially hire people, have institutional clout, have these giant network connections, and then they can leverage that in an in-kind way when it comes to all their little housed domestic products.
alex jones
I'm going to have the Treasury Secretary clip when we come back.
Then we're going to go to our special guest to cover the waterfront, obviously attacks on InfoWars, Viva Fry.
But we're not funded by the NGOs.
We're not funded by USA.
We're not funded by George Soros and your taxpayer money.
The left takes your money and gives it to illegal aliens, gives it to the criminal groups, all of it, as you just saw.
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unidentified
Wasted.
hakeem jeffries
You're not going to talk to me.
Because you don't want to hear what I have to say.
Oh, and listen, why don't you just keep your mouth shut?
alex jones
I've been on air for 31 years, but 28 years ago, I launched InfoWars, and it's changed the world thanks to all of your support of the operation.
People like Hakeem Jeffries want us to shut up.
unidentified
Can you like, shut up?
alex jones
That's what all their lawfare, all their lawsuits, all their attacks have been about.
And they're passing anti-free speech laws in Canada, the UK, Europe.
They're arresting people for even criticizing the government.
And they're trying to bring that here.
And that's why it's so important to try to keep InfoWars on the air.
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But wait, there's more.
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We're not going to shut up.
unidentified
The tree will get you nowhere.
hakeem jeffries
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Hold on and continue fighting, and we will win.
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Here is Treasury Secretary Vascent talking about targeting Antifa and their funds for their criminal activities and going all the way up the chain of command to the top globalists.
This is the way you do it, and it's actually happening.
They've been declared domestic international terrorists.
andrew colvett
I want to play a clip here that's really important because you're working on a very important piece of this.
I wish we had more time for this.
So let's just get right into it.
1:36.
stephen miller
Let me tell you something.
I'd not share with anybody, but the last message that Charlie Kerr gave to me before he joined his creator in heaven was he said that we have to dismantle and take on the radical left organizations in this country that are fomenting violence.
That was the last message that he sent me before that assassin stole him from all of us.
andrew colvett
So that is a powerful clip.
Stephen Millius said something similar when JD hosted the show on the Monday after he was assassinated.
And Treasury, I come to find out coming to D.C. that Treasury has taken an active role in an aspect of this dismantling of the financial networks that are supporting some of these radical left violent groups.
Share with what you can.
I know it's an ongoing process.
scott bessent
So it's an ongoing process.
And I will tell you that after 9-11, Treasury became the driving force behind tracking down the networks of terrorist organizations, how they were financed.
How could this have happened on U.S. soil with these international terrorist organizations?
Where did the money come from?
Who were the ultimate funders?
And that was on the international side.
And Andrew, I will tell you that Charlie's death is like a domestic 9-11.
That we are going to find it has alerted us to what Charlie knew, that these organizations are working within our borders.
And look, we believe people have a right to free speech.
They have a right to organize.
They have a right to protest, but they have to do it peacefully.
They cannot embrace violence.
And we have seen it.
We've seen it since the terrible day two years ago.
The anti-Semitism and the bias that came out after October 7th, 2023.
And many of these organizations have been financed by nonprofits.
And it's going to stop.
And we are going to, as they always say, follow the money.
When you see these groups where all the signs match, they have hundreds of the same umbrellas that they're using after they close the mayhem.
They have the same lasers that they're using to blind our police force.
How are they constructed?
Because this takes a lot of money.
It takes a lot of organization, and we are going to do that.
We have started to compile this, put together networks, and there's a long record here.
And we don't know how much of the support's coming in from overseas.
We don't know how much being supported by U.S. nonprofits, C3s that give money to C4.
But this is mission critical for us now.
Just as after 9-11 and Osama bin Laden, the ultimate culprit was captured.
We are operationalizing this here at Treasury, and we are going to track down who is responsible for this.
So Charlie's death has set this off, and we are determined.
We are determined not only to honor him, but to keep our country safe and to ensure freedom of speech on both sides.
We can't, as conservatives, we can't be afraid to go out and speak.
I know people are canceling speeches.
They're having to bring down the size of the rallies.
President Trump was millimeters away from death, and he was not deterred.
alex jones
All right, ladies and gentlemen, even if this didn't happen to me, if this ruling happened yesterday to somebody else with the same ruling, I would be talking about it a lot.
And I'm not going to spend the whole hour with Viva Fry, really smart lawyer, talk show host, journalist, patriot, good friend of mine.
I've been wanting to get him on for a few weeks about all the other issues he sees and the left and antifa and the buildup to violence and the Ukraine war that is entered the phase of NATO hyping that Russia is going to sneak attack with drones and terrorists and spit-snap troops on the streets of London.
The British government is saying prepare for Russian kamikaze drones to swarm Britain's skies.
I mean, come on, people.
This is what you do right before you false flag.
And the Russians have been warning of that because they've won the war conventionally.
NATO started it.
And I want this war to stop for everybody.
Now Trump says, oh, I think I'm going to send cruise missiles.
And we'll give you Russia's response to that.
unidentified
This is insane.
alex jones
Now, me will be, Jones turns on Trump.
No, I support 95% of it.
But it is kind of a deal killer if Trump starts a nuclear war.
And this is not, you know, art of the deal.
Well, they're not giving up.
Well, NATO and Ukraine aren't making the deal.
And now Trump's like, oh, you get all the land back and maybe more.
So I want to look at that.
I want to look at the indictments and more coming and the other criminal investigations that are going on that has spurred Schumer to say we need a forceful uprising, close quote, because of Letitia James being indicted.
I told you when these indictments started, and I told you it'd be Comey and then James and then Down that they would escalate the calls for violence out of desperation when that happened.
And now you got Blue State saying, we're going to pay illegal aliens legal fees, pay for their houses.
We're forming a Western alliance, an offense.
We're basically seceding, which is the Podesta plan.
And in the Podesta Plan, they slow roll it out like this.
But they're getting you used to the secession.
So with all that going on, Viva Fry's been a practicing lawyer, so he can speak to this in a more eloquent way than I can, but it's very simple.
You're supposed to default people in civil issues if somebody owns a bank and they run to another country with $50 million and they won't show up.
You still got to go before, have a jury on the damages, show what's happening so you can then seize whatever property they had in the U.S. to try to pay people back that were invested in the bank.
That's an example.
Eben Harrison Smith asked ChatGPT, and ChatGPT got it right, but only part of what was right.
Yes, we were defaulted because they said, give us your marketing material from your sponsors on how you made money off Sandy Hook.
So they say I make billions of dollars, literally.
Never made, never had more than $10 million in the bank myself.
Yeah, we've sold $10 million of water filters in a year.
We only make 30% on them.
I mean, it's this idea.
Oh, gross sales, 50 million.
Yeah, we made 20 million and then had to pay the crew and pay all the stuff.
I mean, it's crazy.
So they get up with this false narrative, whatever they put in filings, and then the judges say, You must give us the Google Analytics.
We rarely use Google Analytics, had nothing to do with that.
I don't sit here with news I cover and couple it with what I'm selling.
You just, you're your regular listeners, your viewers.
I came out, I covered news last hour, and then I said, Here's our great sale: 25% off store-wide, a free hat with every order, fundraiser.
It had nothing to do with the topics of the Democrats accelerating a violent uprising last hour.
Nothing.
But they sued me under unfair trade practices as if I was involved in fraud, not even really defamation.
And then they just kept saying, give us the marketing material.
I mean, I personally never went on Google Analytics.
Some of the writers would want to see how many clicks they got, so they would look at it.
That's all they had was like a Don Salazar looking at how many, you know, some articles he wrote.
That was it.
I've never walked in there to the writers and said, write this story to promote this product.
Never.
It's all completely transparent.
I've been on talk radio for 30 years.
Well, Access TV 31, talk radio 30.
I'm just talking radio.
I get clips.
I get articles.
I get guests.
I didn't talk to Viva Fry before he came on.
We told him some of the topics and the text messages we wanted to talk about.
It's not like, and let's talk about the marketing we're going to do.
I mean, it's absolutely insane.
We don't even really have sponsors.
We have like a gold sponsor.
And I'll see that gold's up or silver's up or some big move happened.
And I'll text Kirk and say, hey, Kirk Elliot, when can you come on the next few days and talk about the market?
That's the extent of the planning.
So this is talk radio on TV, folks.
But they said, no, it's all scripted.
When they sued me, they would ask, who does your talking points?
Who fills your teleprompter?
Who funds you?
I'm like, a shopping cart.
They sued my dad deposing probably 10 times.
And they would always ask, who gives Alex the orders?
And my dad would say, well, I'm just on the supplement side.
I mean, it's all in his head.
Alex just comes in and a bunch of articles and news, and then the crew just sits there and they give him ideas and stuff, and they go, so I was defaulted for not giving them made-up evidence that didn't exist.
And my lawyers are like, the judge is going to default you if you don't give them something.
And I said, all we have is the sales sheets we do that I write or Chase writes now.
And it just says what the sale is.
Here, here, here it is.
So we gave them years of these.
And the judge went, You have tried to deceive me.
You know what the talking points for Viva Fry are today?
Here it is.
It's his bio and his website.
See?
Ooh, the premeditation here.
Look at it.
Oh, my God.
So premeditated.
I'm going to stop because I want our guests to speak.
But the other thing they defaulted us for was the foundation suing us and that the DOJ was funding, was working with Hillary Clinton.
The woman in the deposition said, Yeah, no, Hillary Clinton's involved.
And so my lawyer said, Well, we're going to try to depose Hillary Clinton.
The judge went, That's it.
You're totally defaulted.
You can't talk to Hillary Clinton.
So that's all this is.
Meanwhile, you should have given him the evidence, you filthy dog.
Then I'm found guilty.
They have show trials on how guilty him.
And notice, federal judge, Mike Lindell, suing him for questioning electronic voting machines.
The judge says, you cannot hack machines.
No evidence.
Of course, all of them are hackable.
And I find you guilty $1.5 billion.
But now we're going to have a jury decide that if you do it with malice, even more.
And then they said, remember with me, they said $1.5 billion is not enough.
We want $2.75 trillion.
All right, I'm going to go to Viva here.
I don't want to spend all day on this.
We only got 45 minutes with them.
I apologize for going in late.
But this is a big deal for everybody because they said when they got the default three years ago, they said, we're now going to do this to everybody, including Tucker Carlson.
And they've done it to my pillow.
They've done it to they've done it to Rudolf Giuliani.
This is their new thing.
And then you have the Justice Department running it, admitting it with the documents on the stand, undercover and in documents.
And the deputy head of the DOJ comes out and kills an investigation.
Ed Martin had it going into it when this is the most cut and dry weaponization ever.
So, yeah.
It's a big deal to have the Supreme Court because it went past the first two layers of lawyers.
They thought it was important enough.
95% get kicked out the first two layers.
It went to the Supreme Court.
They sat down and looked at it and said, no comment rejected.
And then, isn't it funny?
Just a few weeks ago, Mike Lindell, 1.5 billion.
A judge found him guilty.
No more juries.
No more Magna Carta, folks.
All right, I'm going to shut up.
Viva Fry joins us.
The Viva Fry show, F-R-E-I, vivabarns.locals.com.
Love them to death.
Thank you so much for being here.
Let's spend some time on this.
And then I want to shift gears and everything else that's happening.
Thanks for being here.
viva frei
Well, no, my pleasure.
Listening to you explain it again, it's insanity.
And people really have to understand this.
And I highlighted it yesterday with Harrison, like defaulting into liability.
Hypothetically, let's just say they sued you for 10 years.
A hypothetical example where someone's suing someone for 10 years of salary.
And they say the defendant was so bad, they defaulted him into a liability finding.
So they give the judgment over to the plaintiff.
But if the plaintiff had showed the contract, it would have only been for a year of salary.
Let's just say that.
They basically gave a lottery ticket to the plaintiffs because they did not allow them or require them to even prove the elements of their case.
Going into your profits, Alex, is only relevant if you've been found liable for defamation in the first place.
So to default you into a liability finding because you didn't provide evidence, which doesn't exist of profits that you didn't make when they didn't even prove the intentional infliction of emotional distress or defamation in the first place.
So they default you into liability and just hand over a judgment where they didn't have to prove actual malice.
They didn't have to prove issues of statutory limitations.
They didn't have to prove their case.
And then the only trial you have, trial put it in quotes, is on the quantum, which is insane.
I wanted to refresh my memory because I think, you know, the survivors of the Armenian genocide were asking for $3 billion by way of reparations.
So they think your words, the few words that you spoke over a decade that amounted to a 16-minute montage is worth half of what the survivors of the Armenian genocide were seeking by way of reparations.
That's how insane it is.
And it is extremely disappointing that the Supreme Court apparently hasn't taken it, is not taking it up.
And I don't know, does it just end there now?
Is this injustice ratified where defendants are defaulted into liability findings?
Plaintiffs are absolved of the obligation to prove their case.
And they did, as you astutely observed, do this with other players afterwards, Lindell, denying people of their defenses, Giuliani, Bannon, Navarro, Trump.
And the MO has now gone from being the extraordinary one-off with Alex Jones to being the new modus operandi with politically disfavored opponents.
And the Supreme Court says, well, everyone hates Alex Jones.
So nobody's going to give us a hard time for not taking this particular case up.
Well, the standard's been set for everybody.
And it's already been done right up to the highest levels of office, including the president of these United States of America.
alex jones
Well, that's exactly what's happening.
And you do have these older people, I've noticed, these judges who are in their own bubble.
They don't understand the world's moved on.
The court of public opinion, almost no one buys this.
That's why they had to turn off the YouTube comments that millions were watching in the Texas show trial and the Connecticut show trial that over four years of lawsuits, they all coordinated both of them back to back in two months, right before the midterms.
And when 99% of the comments were against them, they turned the comments off because people could see it was totally rigged and wasn't real.
So this is so dangerous.
And now they're just doing it everywhere.
And so Trump and his administration really need to do something about this.
And I don't know why Todd Blanche, you know, killed an investigation into this because it's so cut and dry.
But I guess he's protecting his own agency because they ran the attack.
viva frei
I don't want to rail too hard against Todd Blanche, but there's been a number of areas where some players of the Trump administration have been seemingly running contrary to certain promises of Trump himself.
But set that aside, I mean, there has to be some sort of congressional or legislative remedy to this.
But the only problem is there was already legislative and judicial protections in the first place.
Sullivan versus the New York Times requiring actual malice to be proved when it comes to media outlets.
And then they say, well, you're not a media outlet.
You have statutory limitations for these issues of defamation.
They bypassed all of it by not just defaulting you from defending, but defaulting them into a judgment, which is, it's unheard of.
And people need to understand this.
People were outraged at the trial that they thought they were watching in Texas with that judge.
I forget her name now.
And not even appreciating.
They're like, they're not even proving their case, let alone damages.
I was like, well, they don't need to prove their case because they were defaulted into their victory on the case.
And now they've had a hand-selected jury pool who are not going to be against.
issuing a ridiculous judgment.
And you have a show trial on the quantum.
alex jones
Well, it's worse than that.
You know, I got lawyers, Ben Brooks and Shelby Jordan.
My other lawyers were great, but these guys are workhorses.
They actually went and got the whole record.
We paid for it, went through it all, went through all the evidence, and they went, oh my God, they would find the quotes they said and they chop down like two seconds and leave off.
I believe kids died.
People are saying it's synthetic, didn't happen.
How incredibly, and it was all given to the Supreme Court with the video links and showing that what they said I said wasn't said, but the judges would read pleadings into the record or news articles as if they were findings.
So I didn't even do the things they said I did, which were protected if I did them.
So you have to understand, my lawyers were stunned and they showed it to top law professors, you name it.
They said, this is unbelievable.
I went to like, they showed the clips to other law professors.
They went, oh my God, where I would say, no, I believe kids died, but these people are saying they didn't.
They believe it's totally synthetic.
They would cut that out, show that, and then put it in a filing.
And then the judge would say that was that.
And then we weren't even allowed to put on evidence, which we tried to do, showing that it was incorrect.
And the judge said, no, you're already guilty.
viva frei
Alex, you couldn't say that you were innocent.
You couldn't mention that you would apologize and retract.
And you couldn't mention that you couldn't assert innocence.
And you have these basically manufactured judicial findings.
First of all, even if you had said what they said you said to the extent they purport you said it.
So now suggesting that certain things are false flags for whatever that means, because that term has never been defined, is going to be tantamount to lawsuits in the orders of billions of dollars.
So everybody suggesting that Trump wasn't actually shot in Butler, billion dollar judgments.
Everybody suggesting that Charlie Kirk, whatever crazy theories they have about that, billion dollar judgment.
I mean, the issue.
alex jones
There's a big talk show saying Charlie didn't die, which I believe he did die.
You can't fake that.
I mean, that was real, the spine being severed.
The point is, is that they have a right to say the moon's made of cheese if they want.
Exactly.
viva frei
And not just that.
You have these judges.
And people need to go back to Judge Kaplan in the E. Gene Carroll case, where even when they don't get the findings they want from the jury after a trial in front of a jury, which at least Trump had, the judge then goes on to manufacture literal rape, where the jury verdict form in the Kaplan-E.
Gene Carroll case, the jury said, no, Trump did not rape E. Gene Carroll.
And then the judge comes out and says, nah, close enough.
What he's alleged to have done in terms of battery or assault, it's digital rape, he calls it.
So he's an adjudicated rapist.
And then the media runs with that.
alex jones
Everybody couldn't say he was innocent.
That's what he was found liable for.
Can't say you're innocent.
viva frei
Yeah, Alex.
And then nobody's up in arms about this.
But how do you think we got there?
It's like, you know, it happens very slowly.
Then all at once, when they have a judge, an activist judge literally manufacturing a verdict that didn't occur of rape so that the media can then come out and call Trump an adjudicated rapist.
It's, you know, I don't even know that you were the first person.
They've probably been doing this on people throughout the history of the judicial system.
alex jones
Absolutely.
But it gets worse.
Under Texas and Connecticut law, you have to, in defamation, say the name of someone.
I said the name of one person that sued me.
viva frei
Alex, people understand that the FBI agent who didn't, and not say he didn't suffer trauma that day, I'm sure he did.
He didn't suffer the loss of a loved one, which you acknowledge, by the way, despite what everyone says.
$90 million in damages to an FBI agent because people online were suggesting he was a crisis actor, putting it in quotes and wearing a uniform.
alex jones
By the way, I never saw that coverage.
I never even, I didn't create the coverage.
We asked him on the stand, Alex Jones ever say your name?
And it was crew?
unidentified
No.
alex jones
Well, what happened to you?
Well, somebody called my office, wants to see if I was real.
And then it was a local reporter I talked to later.
viva frei
No, but Alex, appreciate that.
You never said his name.
But by that point, when people are discovering that that was the absence of evidence in the case, you had already been a liability defaulted into liability.
I shared the anecdote in my practice of law, which I'm no longer, I relinquished my license up in Quebec because I don't ever want to practice again because this is enough to deter people from practicing.
You know, one case where a defendant was defaulted into not defending, but the plaintiffs still have to build their case and make their case because they might not have the evidence for their case, or they might have all the evidence in the world, but it's just time barred.
And then they have to prove why it's not time barred or why they circumvent statute limitations.
None of that in this case.
It was just, here's a blank check lottery ticket.
Now let's go hand select your jury to come up with the 1.5.
alex jones
Well, we would absolutely say, so who came to harass you?
I don't know.
Did you see him?
No.
Well, I heard about it from a neighbor.
Well, who are they?
I don't know.
I can't say.
Well, it's those people, Peter on the Graves.
I heard that.
Who told you?
I don't know.
It's all just made up.
And they could just get up there.
I'd never even been to Connecticut.
For a couple of years, I never even said that it didn't happen.
It became a big internet thing that didn't happen.
So I did a few interviews.
This is why Elon Musk put it back on X. We explained to him that I was banned for all this other stuff that I didn't do.
And he went to the logs and saw it all and noticed I never said anything.
He'd see every tweet I ever did.
He searched it and looked at it.
And he said, oh my God, there were like five tweets on these years about Sandy Hook.
And all of a sudden, it was real.
He's talking about an interview with me and like a two-plus hour interview we did.
Roll me right back on X. He was like, this is incredible.
He found it was the same PR firm and law firm suing him that were doing all this.
He was just blown away because he was told I was taking off Henry Sandy Hook.
My name was never associated with Sandy Hook until Hillary Clinton in 2016 attacked me and brought out this narrative.
And then for two years, they do fundraising and raise hundreds of millions of dollars through the Sandy Hook Foundations of the minority of the parents that do go out and fundraise off the tragedy.
And that's when the narrative, and people are like, why are you talking about Sandy Hook?
Why are you making money off of it?
I wasn't.
They were making money saying I was making money.
And then I was sending people to do things to them and none of it ever happened.
I mean, this is pure victimology.
It's so dastardly.
viva frei
We've lived through it.
And those who paid attention know how bad it was.
And credit to Elon Musk because I do remember him saying, I'm not bringing back Alex Jones, you know, when you exploit the death of children and it's something that's close to me.
And he realized, A, that's not what you were yeeted from X for in the first place.
And B, it's not what you did in the first place.
And whether or not you said things that were wrong.
alex jones
Well, it's just like everything you do on X or Twitter before, for the managers, everything you ever did was there.
So he said, to people that I talked to, Maury said, no, he went.
Elon Musk is a very busy guy.
I went and spent an hour.
He said he double checked it.
There was like four posts and it all said it happened.
viva frei
Yeah.
Alex.
alex jones
When he saw that, he was like, oh my God, this is like, because it's crazy.
viva frei
What's crazy is also that they will stifle any legitimate, but let's just say they've mischaracterized what you did in fact say.
You said some things which were false.
Okay, fine.
When you're on air for a decade and you do not entertain, but rather discuss prevailing theories, because I remember the theory was going around then.
It's still going around now.
I still get emails from people saying Sandy Hook never even happened.
I'm like, okay, let's agree to disagree on that because I'm not entertaining that discussion with you.
But the mere idea now of countering or negating official narratives, the true false flag of Sandy Hook might very well have been the absence of the administration to take proper protocols to protect the kids from that type of incident in the first place.
It might have been, you know, the identity of the shooter himself and what political leanings he might have had.
It might have been a number of other things where the event occurred and not many rational people, I think, deny that.
alex jones
Well, exactly.
Well, now there's such a loss of credibility in the system.
No one believes anything anymore.
viva frei
We're seeing it right now with the Charlie Kirk theories going around and everybody who thinks that this can't come to them for the theories that some people are floating about Charlie Kirk assassination.
You're all now.
alex jones
Well, let's talk about that.
I mean, people say like the security guard shoots him.
He's got a phone under his arm.
People are cutting dry.
Here's the killer.
I never did anything even approaching that.
We'll be right back with Viva Fry.
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All right, I want to finish up on the subject of Infowars and the First Amendment, which if I was covering this happening to somebody else, I wouldn't believe it.
I mean, they just did it to Mike Lindell.
I already covered that yesterday.
I got all the articles.
Judge finds him guilty.
$1.5 billion.
The interest I owe them is $400 million right now.
So it's almost at $2 billion.
Though the Supreme Court of Connecticut reduced it by $300 million, so I guess it's at about $4.7 billion.
It's meant to scare people.
And folks ask, well, what's going to happen next?
I have a non-dischargeable debt, even though the bankruptcy law is set up to not do that, even though America was founded to get rid of debtor prisons.
They lied to the federal court and said it was non-dischargeable.
At that point, it wasn't.
They got that through.
Judge Lopez washed his hands and paunched his pilot and literally sent me off to be crucified.
That's fine.
The good news is I'm not a high roller.
And with Texas laws and things, I can have a house, a car, whatever, sponsors, all the rest of it.
I'll be able to travel working and covering things.
I'll be an employee.
I'll be the news director of the Allison's Network.
They're going to attack that, but it's all 100% real companies, real money, real people, not me.
And they'll just run into a brick wall and they'll depose me all the time and harass my family and everything.
And that's fine.
I know you're scum.
I know you're globalist.
And so quite frankly, this morning when I was doing my sixth set of deadlifts, six reps with a heavy poundage, I was just thinking about how you want to crush me when I did 500 setups two days ago on top of the hour-long workout.
I was doing them for you because you want to take me down.
You want me to be weak?
So that's the opposite.
You're going to get my full force resistance because I know we're critical in this fight.
We got people counting on us to stand up to the tyrants.
But in closing, I want to shift gears here with you, Viva.
This is so oppressive and so draconian and so un-American.
And like you have similar laws in Canada, it's all out of British common law.
This really overturns the Magna Carta that's a thousand years old.
You're supposed to get a jury trial.
I mean, they finally came to the king and said, we're going to have juries, dude.
You're not all powerful or we're going to cut your head off.
So in the UK is getting rid of jury trials to a great extent.
This is a real crisis.
And they want to set precedent.
They've said with my name demonized, believing that a bunch of insulated judges that still are in the corporate bubble think, well, Alex Jones is so demonized, we're not going to defend him.
What needs to be done about this?
I mean, this is a big deal.
People need to put pressure on the Trump administration, not just for us, folks, but for everybody, because this is happening.
viva frei
Well, I'd say interesting point, actually, just not to ignore.
This is the way for corrupt judges to bypass jury trials.
It's as if it wasn't already easy enough to stack a jury to take these cases in jurisdictions where you can make predictive guesses as to how a jury is going to lean.
This is how judges now have found the method to just bypass jury trials altogether.
We've seen them do it in defamation cases, but now it's like, all right, well, we don't need a jury because there's a default judgment.
Lindell, Giuliani, et cetera.
People do need to get mildly outraged about this.
And the Trump administration needs to get involved in this because I do wonder whether or not there's anything for Harmeet Dylan to potentially look into when we're talking about effectively constitutional violations that, you know, unreasonable fines.
I mean, it's just, you know, we say like, oh, it's a new standard.
It's inflation.
This is not just unheard of.
untethered from reality that you can just issue these orders of hundreds of millions of dollars in damages, punitive damages, 90 million.
alex jones
Wasn't it the Oxycontin settlement that killed hundreds of thousands of people around this number?
viva frei
I think it was less because I remember Rogan was talking about that.
And I think it was less, but even if it's the same and even if it's within the same ballpark, it's untethered from reality.
And like you say, this is a way of creating an indentured servant for the rest of your life.
And I'm reading some replies on Twitter where people are like, yeah, that's what you deserve.
That's what you get.
People with no principles don't object when injustices are carried out on their political adversaries.
And then they cry that nobody's defending them when they come to their front door because they will.
This is not about only the Alex Joneses.
This is a right about now about making sure everybody bites their tongue when challenging official government narratives because you might get sued.
You might get the FBI or maybe not this FBI, but maybe another FBI.
It's total.
alex jones
It's a total chilling effect.
So moving in now to the other law areas.
I told everybody it'd be Comey and then James.
And it wasn't just sources, but it was a lot of information.
Now it's looking like John Bolton and Jack Smith are next from all the intel I've got.
This is now where the Democrats openly call for, quote, forceful uprisings, violence.
They're everywhere.
Chuck Schumer, you name it.
Where do you see them going next?
That this is not the first Trump administration.
Yeah, it's still moving too slow, but it is moving.
viva frei
Well, and like I say, I've given Pam Bondi legitimate criticism on some cases where I think that she was too slow to get to the, you know, too slow to the ball.
Roger Veer, they've finally come to some deferred prosecution agreement.
That's Bitcoin Jesus.
Why the DOJ was even pursuing a Biden-era prosecution is beyond me.
With Douglas Mackey, they didn't get involved, but they got the right case for they got the right judgment from the Court of Appeal.
That was Ricky Vaughn, the meme master who was convicted for violation of election rights because of a meme.
Dr. King's.
alex jones
Think about Hillary Clinton.
viva frei
He made a joke that other people have made about texting in your vote.
Other people made the same joke.
It's still online.
They didn't get prosecuted.
Why?
Because it's capital D different.
Dr. Kirk Morse, she finally got involved, you know, a week into the trial, better late than never.
They've made some advances on finally, you know, indicting James Comey, not for his, what I believe to be a threat against the president, but for his other leaking classified information, which, again, dead to rights in any normal and perjuring himself, saying I never leaked.
alex jones
And then later he went, he went, I went after Trump.
I did the leaks.
I gave it to other people to leak.
That's like a mafia don telling a capo, tell a soldier, kill somebody.
He's just as guilty as the soldier.
viva frei
They were proud about it when they were handling the reins of power.
Now they're pretending they never said that they did what they said they did and what they in fact did.
And it wasn't the Harvard, not the Harvard.
It wasn't the Columbia law professor.
This was him authorizing leaks to the media during the Trump investigations back in 2016.
He did it.
He's a liar.
We all know that he did.
The only thing is, I think he should have gotten charged for inciting violence or threats, whatever with his 8647 nonsense.
Leticia James, again, dead to rights.
These are so people don't confuse the issues.
This is a case where she bought a secondary property for $100 and some odd thousand dollars and lied, or at least at the time, seemingly lied that it was going to serve as a secondary residence.
And then she turns around and uses it as a rental property.
So she gets beneficial interest rates from the mortgage company as a secondary property.
She gets cashback credits of whatever, a few thousand bucks, and she gets a more favorable insurance rate because it's a secondary residence and not a commercial rental property.
Then I think we found out that it's her criminal niece that might have been living there.
I might be wrong on that.
alex jones
Oh, no, no, it's packed full of absconders, people on the run.
viva frei
It's, it's, um, you know, it rights itself because it's so comedically stupid, but she is dead to rights because she lied on the document.
And when she took to Twitter to say no one is above the law, if you lie on a mortgage application, expect to have the book thrown at you.
And now these scumbag SOB double standard hypocrites are crying foul.
No one's above the law.
Let me say what Nancy Pelosi said.
Leticia can prove her innocence at trial.
I say tongue-in-cheek because guilt needs to be proven, not innocence at trial.
But these are the same scumbags who arrested Trump, arrested his lawyers, arrested anyone in his entourage, denied them of defenses, went after lawyers for actually just giving legal advice.
Now they're crying foul that this Leticia James, corrupt to the core, ran a campaign for attorney general on prosecuting an individual.
She would find the crime.
And remember, everybody, like I've said this a number of times on my channel, when she first ran, her theory of Trump's criminality was that he had to be laundering money from foreign governments because domestic banks wouldn't lend to him.
Well, that wasn't true.
So then she had to pivot and shift.
And then it was, oh, domestic banks are lending to him only because he lied.
alex jones
We forget.
She goes, I'm going to find the Russians doing it.
And then, of course, Trump has a great lending record.
And Bar-Lago, he said, was worth $220 million.
They say $18.
Now it's worth a billion.
I mean, it's just ridiculous.
The loans were paid off.
viva frei
And so everybody understands this as well.
These are not comparable situations.
Leticia James is alleged to have lied to a Fannie Mae-backed mortgage institution.
That's government run.
So by her default, by her defrauding Fannie Mae out of proper interest rates, she's defrauding the people.
The bank with Trump were two sophisticated private actors coming to their own decisions.
No one was defrauded.
alex jones
Yeah, let's be clear.
Let's be clear because I've had mortgages before and you get an assessment, you bring it, and the bank, both times I got mortgages years ago, they're like, yeah, that's that's right.
Boom.
Because I didn't bring them a fake thing.
They could look at it.
I mean, it's like they accepted it.
I mean, of course, Mar-Lago was worth $200 million.
viva frei
Not just that they accepted it, but if they decided to take less profit because they wanted to do business with Trump, which they did, which was what they said, that's between them.
But Fannie Mae, a government-backed institution, if you deny Fannie Mae of profits, you're denying the government of profits.
And so that is something that actually impacts the people.
So they're not even analogous in terms of the accusations.
But Fannie Mae is, in my humble opinion, she was a corrupt criminal from when she started running for AG on the basis of prosecuting an individual.
She got away with it.
She got elected and she did it.
And then they went and manufactured a crime out of thin air.
alex jones
And by the way, let's be clear.
The Virginia thing is the low-hanging fruit where they had a prosecutor ready to go and had the indictment.
The New York stuff, all of it, like, oh, it's a single dwelling.
There's five apartments in it.
I mean, the fraud just skyrockets from there.
unidentified
Yeah.
viva frei
Well, the issue might be statute of limitations on those and other defenses that she might be able to raise.
But like, this is what you scratch the surface with these criminals and you'll find, you know, criminality everywhere.
What's his face?
Adam Schiff doing the exact same thing.
Lisa Cook doing the exact same thing.
And I'm sitting here.
Like, I'm not a, I'm not a millionaire by any means.
So like 20,000 bucks, which is what she's alleged to have benefited from the lies.
I mean, it's a lot of money, but what's the price of your soul?
They don't, you know, my revelation is they don't do it for the money because, you know, she is corrupt to the court.
She'll find other ways to get money.
They do it as a as a power flex.
Like, I can get away with it.
Therefore, I'm going to do it because I'm that powerful and nobody is.
alex jones
We know why you went after Trump for real estate fraud is because she's a master of it.
She knew.
viva frei
I mean, this is the, you know, they say the iron law of woke projection.
The way she was describing in elaborate detail what Trump, she alleged Trump did, which he didn't do, she only knew it because it was off the back of her hand because she had done it.
Lisa Cook declaring two primary residences, Adam Schiff declaring two primary residences.
You don't need to be a lawyer to know you can't do that.
alex jones
IU CPAs and lawyers, none of them will even do that.
I mean, it's like, it's like the idea they'll just like CNN said, everybody engages in mortgage fraud.
No, we don't.
viva frei
No, we don't.
Not necessarily because we have a fear of God, but we might have a fear of the government.
And like, it's the easiest thing to, if they want to find a crime, and this is where they're going to find it.
But it is just totally ironic that she knew exactly how to do it because she was doing it.
alex jones
Well, I'm not going to put on IRS forms.
I've had two houses at a time, a lake house in the house.
I didn't go say both were my primary residents going to tax write-off.
I mean, I just don't engage in fraud, but plus it's completely obvious.
viva frei
But listen, like, also, she's lucky there wasn't a claim in the property because an insurance company will deny coverage.
Oh, I'm sorry.
You said this was a secondary residence.
You have apparently potentially criminals renting this out as a commercial rental property.
We're not covering you anymore.
Enjoy your $118,000 loss.
I mean, it's from a mere liability perspective, you wouldn't do it, let alone from a morality perspective.
But they have no morality and they had no fear of liability because they were in control.
alex jones
Well, they're also, I'm too busy to even come up with fraud.
Like you said, every one of them, you look at it says he's involved in fraud on, it's like they just, they love it.
They just, it's like, I guess it's a criminal brain.
They like learn, how do I break the law?
How do I even, you know?
viva frei
To me, it's just a matter of principle.
It's a matter of power to them.
Like they, they, they do it because they can get away with it and it's a sign of their power.
It's like, sort of like with Hillary Clinton, you know, the true power is not just your ability to lie.
It's the fact that you know other people are going to lie for you in your defense.
That's power.
And these people had the reins of power forever from Comey to Schiff to who's going to be next?
Bolton?
I mean, Bolton.
When he comes out and talks about the value of not disclosing classified intel, the MoFo was doing it himself knowingly.
And it's just like they see this and accuse others of doing it because it's.
alex jones
Oh, that was the best part of sir.
This is weaponization.
How dare you?
And they're all sent when meanwhile, they're like saying we are going to weaponize.
We're going to find something and put him in prison.
So, so what do you make of all their pushes?
LA County and others declaring emergency saying they're going to legally defend illegals, pay for their rent, give them money, and that they're now in an emergency.
They're announcing a Western alliance.
They're going to rise up.
They're going to fight.
Where do you see this going?
viva frei
Well, I mean, I see it going to a political disaster.
They've made it clear that they are, they being capital D Democrats, they have a greater interest in defending literal illegal aliens, literal criminals than their actual constituents.
They don't mind if the fire hydrants are running dry and they don't have fire equipment because they've donated it to Ukraine while the palisades burn.
They don't mind that, but they're going to fight tooth and nail to go get Kilmar Brego Garcia back from El Salvador and elect Zohran Mamdani who's going to go defend Leticia James.
So continue doing it.
alex jones
That's right.
They come up with the craziest worst PR you could as well.
viva frei
Well, on the internet, there's a thing called audience capture.
And it's a dangerous thing because A, you end up with a very concentrated type of audience that is not there for any loyal purpose.
They're there because they expect something from you.
What these politicians are going to end up with very quickly is an audience capture or a constituents capture where the only people who are going to be supporting them anymore are the most violent, virulent, vitriolic loons out there.
And the second they don't do the bidding of the people that they have now captured as their audience, they're going to turn on them too.
And so look, it's all fun and games to say, I'm defending Letitia James and this is all political witch hunt.
They had no problem with it when it was directed at Trump.
They had no problem with going after the licenses of the John Eastmans and the Jeff Clarks and the Jenna Ellises.
They had no problem going after the licenses of Trump's lawyers for doing nothing else.
alex jones
Well, let's not forget when Trump got re-elected almost a year ago now, the Democrat Party officially put out statements saying, any lawyers help him or work for him.
We're going to disbar you.
And when we get back in, we're going to put you in jail.
And Akeem Jeffries said it three weeks ago.
They're publicly threatening everyone.
viva frei
It's Klan behavior.
And it's not an accident either that, you know, people seem to forget before the switching of the parties that the Democrats founded the Klan.
This is the tactic.
It's harassment.
It's so that people don't even want to be in the orbit of the people who might be the targets.
No, but it's look, they're going to keep doubling.
alex jones
They're terrorizing people.
viva frei
It's political terrorism.
It's ideological terrorism and it's manifested now into action.
alex jones
So where do you see with Antifa being declared domestic, about to be declared international, the left saying they don't exist?
Well, I've been hit over the head by them and reporters been attacked and I know they're real.
They're all the place.
Where do you see a logo?
viva frei
They have a logo.
How does something that doesn't exist have a branded logo?
It's stupid talk.
Sorry to interrupt you.
alex jones
No, I mean, well, where do you think their ace in the hole is uprisings?
I don't see it being successful, but they're going full ahead with this.
viva frei
Well, the designation is a domestic terrorist group.
It carried some weight, but certainly not as much as the designation of an international or an international terrorist group.
They're going to go after the funding, and you're going to find out that when there's no funding for this, when there's no funding for the agitation, no funding for the actual participation, it's going to quell down.
And when there's actual prosecution for the actual violence, people are going to think twice before throwing their lives away over some brainwashed ideological purpose.
So they'll double down, triple down because it's all that they do.
But designated an international terrorist organization, you have many, many laws that apply specifically to that.
Go after the funding.
Go after potential.
You want to talk about legit bona fide RICO suits?
Go after the Soros Foundations that are funding these things, RICO lawsuits, because it is objective criminality.
And you will see it subdue very quickly.
They've got another three years.
They've got to start moving, which is why, you know, give credit where credit's due, but keep pressure on before I forget, Also, like you say, I support the Trump administration as well.
Support doesn't mean shutting your mouth when you think they're making a mistake.
Support doesn't mean that.
alex jones
It's not known anti-va leaders.
It's always academics fleeing the U.S. because they know they're, we've got the documents.
They know it's coming out.
viva frei
It's coming.
It's been known for a long time.
The stronger the denial that it doesn't exist, it's just an idea is a confirmation of the existence and the structure.
So we've known it.
We've all known it for a long time.
alex jones
Let's be clear.
When the Democrats have rallies in Austin and you get 5,000 of them out, because the funding's going to obviously be like 20,000, half of them are dressed up like Antifa.
Okay.
And literally wearing pentagrams saying we're going to kill you.
You know, we love Satan.
I mean, go.
The videos are, I mean, Savannah Hernandez has been beat up by him 10 times.
I mean, they attack our, we don't have an armored vehicle to go cover them.
And they're like literally saying this thing doesn't exist.
They're all over the place.
viva frei
I mean, up in Canada, it's, I won't even say, I won't say it's even worse, but it's there.
It's a known thing.
It has historical origins.
It has financial structure.
It's got uniforms.
It's got logo.
It's got branding.
It's got people online proudly saying that they're members of, founders of.
To deny, I mean, look, it's like Chernobyl level denial of reality.
alex jones
And that's sort of, you know, they firebomb federal buildings and burn down police stations in Atlanta, but they don't exist.
viva frei
So they're going to go after it.
It's going to, you know, you go after the funding and things will settle down sooner than later.
And you put people in jail because what's been happening, unfortunately, under the prior administrations that deny its existence while simultaneously bailing them out of jail, they've had the political permission slip to wreak havoc.
alex jones
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Let's not forget.
alex jones
Kamala fundraised to bail them out.
viva frei
Well, she didn't know which organizations they were fundraising or who they were bailing out.
Bull crap.
This was organized domestic terror and it has international roots and international funding.
So they will get to it, but they've got to start moving.
Look, they got a flag with a logo.
I wonder if it's trademarked.
It doesn't exist, though.
And no, no, but it's a step in the right direction.
So we'll see.
alex jones
Footage of them attacking federal police with flamethrowers.
And the judges let them out.
Plus, I don't want to attack anybody with a flamethrower, but the feds aren't usually wimps on average.
Let me say this.
If anybody else, a right-winger, tried the flamethrower or hit a cop over the head with a hammer, you're going to have your neck broken.
I mean, you're going to wish you were dead.
And the feds are so scared of them, they run from them because they know they'll be prosecuted.
viva frei
If it were anyone on the right, we saw what the sentences they were handing down for the Jan 6 insurrection.
And I'm putting that in quotes because it was a Fed surrection.
They did like 5, 10, 20 years for alleged assaults on police officers when the Molotov cocktail throwing lawyers out of New York.
What do they get?
They actually had their plea deal reduced by the judge, I think.
You know, there's obviously there was a double standard for a long time.
And now the ones crying political persecutions just can't even accept an even-handed application of the law.
It's, you know, they said when Trump got elected the second time and the miracle that it was for having dodged that bullet, no pun intended, you know, the responsible parent is back in charge of the family.
And sure as sugar, the kids that have been eating marshmallows and, you know, not putting dishes away are going to complain now at the injustice.
But there will be order.
It's got to happen sooner than later because three years goes by fast.
unidentified
All right.
alex jones
I know you got to go.
And your good buddy and co-host, Robert Barnes, has come up at six after, but we got to go to break.
I want to just do five more minutes while we're getting Barnes on.
I want to talk about other issues that you see going on.
Positive things you see, negative things, but also they're now saying Russia's going to attack Europe.
Secret troops.
Sounds like false flag, Phil, to me.
It's not.
And then Russia says it's going to be a false flag.
And now they've gotten to fever pitch.
But I know you do a bunch of different shows.
I watch a lot of them.
How do people find all the different broadcasts you're doing, Viva Fry?
viva frei
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Putting out the car vlogs because people like those.
And I also like getting into the car for some quiet.
So, you know, I'm across all platforms, but exclusive on Rumble at three o'clock daily.
And then the Viva and Barnes Sunday night show, six o'clock across all platforms.
No, Alex, the Russian false flag.
I mean, it's amazing.
It rhymes with Yasser.
Oh, geez, the Syria.
I forget his name now.
unidentified
Bashar Assad.
viva frei
You know, gassing his own people at a time when there was strategically no point in doing it.
Right now, Russia, you know, winning all the time.
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Viva.
I mean, the Russians have been saying NATO wants to go to full war.
They'll want to do a false flag.
I've been saying it before the Russians.
And then a few weeks ago, oh, these drones came out of Russia, but then they proved they didn't.
You've had Ukraine shoot missiles into Poland, try to blame it on them.
NATO needs a pretext to send in a quarter million man peacekeeping force.
They've got conscription firing up.
Now you read the British news.
Prepare for Russia kamikaze drones to swarm Britain's skies.
Government warned Putin to deploy 2 million reservists to MeatGrinder with law change.
Sweden to begin stop piling food first time since Cold War, ahead of war.
So clearly this is coming to a head.
Where do you see all that going with Trump talking about Tomahawk cruise missiles to Russia to attack Russia?
viva frei
Yeah, no, Trump may or may not be bluffing with that, whether or not he thinks it's an effective bluff, separate issue.
Just remember what George Orwell said, everybody.
The war was never meant to be one.
It was meant to be continuous.
This war needs to go on forever.
The war between Israel and Hamas needed to go on forever because war has come to an end.
And then you actually have to start answering questions.
Then you actually have to start facing trials, literally.
In Russia, can you imagine it's as though Russia would need to do that?
There's no giving credit here.
This is a war.
But if Russia wanted to escalate to involve NATO, they could have done it a thousand times already in the last few years.
Who has been clearly trying to escalate to get NATO involved?
alex jones
Well, a drone is a perfect thing to blame on somebody.
They got nuclear submarines and hypersonic missiles.
Oh, but drones.
Remember, some drones have been popping up in Europe.
They go, oh, it's the Russians with no proof.
viva frei
Well, and bombs falling and killing Polish farmers.
And Ukraine is quick to blame Russia to trigger Article 5, NATO.
alex jones
Oh, yeah.
viva frei
And the whole blowing up of the Nord Stream pipeline, which the world seems to have moved on from, it's more of the same.
Like you said on my channel.
alex jones
You said it was the Russians when Biden did it.
robert barnes
No, no, of course.
viva frei
But Alex, you said it on my channel.
It's the thing I remember from like years ago.
It's the same trick over and over again.
What surprises you is that they use the same tricks over and over again.
Whether or not you believe it was a false flag in Syria, the strategic wisdom of gassing people when you're winning the war doesn't make sense.
Russia doesn't need to do any of this right now.
alex jones
The war is going, you know, Obama said my red line is gas.
Then a week later, gas gets launched in a part of the city, but the jihadists get money for that.
So they're Durka Durka Muhammad Jihad firing the chemical mortars, bragging they did it.
So, no, it was staged.
viva frei
I hope everyone gets the, that was South Park reference.
So, no, that was Team America reference.
alex jones
Same people, yeah.
I think.
Oh, you've got big balls.
They dropped half out of my goats.
That's when I declared a jihad on their ass.
It's not about sex, Gary.
Now, suck my cock.
viva frei
That's the thing.
I have to wait for my kids to be old enough before I can watch that one.
alex jones
That is in the top.
That deserved major Academy Awards.
It never gets old.
viva frei
AIDS.
alex jones
Everybody's got AIDS.
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I use that.
alex jones
The Speaker's Guild is called FAG.
And you've got Kim Jong-un.
Oh, Alec Baldwin.
viva frei
In the one minute that I have left, I need to bring everyone's attention to the channel.
alex jones
Sorry.
viva frei
Kim Jung.
It'll be remiss.
What is it?
It will be remiss of me if I don't mention the ostrich scandal going up on Canada that has now entered the month of the government trying to kill these ostriches because they-I'll do this.
alex jones
I will have you back tomorrow on the ostriches.
I know you want to come on about it.
It's important because it shows with bird flu and all the excuse of the power grab.
And it's the same program here.
It's a big deal.
So why don't you come back for 30 minutes?
We'll call it Ostrich Gate tomorrow.
viva frei
Like it.
We'll do it.
alex jones
All right, tomorrow the next day.
And by the way, Nick Fuentez's studio tomorrow.
He's in town.
We're talking about that.
Viva Fry, we love you.
And all I ask is when we relaunch the network, I need to go on everybody's show and promote it because everybody's going to be saying, where's the show?
InfoWars is gone.
viva frei
Open invitation anytime, every time.
We'll do it.
alex jones
30 minutes tomorrow on Ostrich Gate.
viva frei
Sounds good.
alex jones
Send us all.
They're literally slaughtering all of them.
They're not even sick.
viva frei
They haven't even killed them yet, but they're on the verge.
So it's a life or death battle.
alex jones
I've seen some footage where they are killing them.
I guess it's somewhere else.
We'll be right back.
Thank you.
You know, I want to say I've dropped the ball on Zoran Mondami.
I mean, I've talked about him.
He's got the Social Democrats funding him.
He's the model of the Islamic takeover.
They've done it in Europe.
They're doing it in Canada.
They're doing it all over the U.S. But the latest thing he did, it just pisses me off.
Flipping off Christopher Columbus statues when Europeans historically had the lowest level of slavery and involvement in slavery.
And we've been heavily involved in it.
But if there was like MVPs, it's the Muslims.
And they're currently doing it.
So I'm going to get to that in a minute.
Robert Barnes is connecting right now.
But this is a big deal with the Supreme Court not hearing our case because it went through the first two layers of lawyers to the Supreme Court.
95% of the stuff gets rejected, literally.
Doesn't make it past the first or second hurdle.
The lawyers thought it was important because what they did is like the most illegal insane crap ever and it sets a precedent and they're doing it to everybody now.
Just the judge finds you guilty.
But you got to read our Supreme Court briefing.
In fact, it's amazing because even when I read it, I can't believe how we were violated what they claimed.
We were defaulted for not giving him evidence.
Not giving them evidence that didn't exist.
Anybody that works here knows that like we're not like calling sponsors up and say, I'm going to hit this story, sponsor.
We're coordinating with you.
The news I cover has nothing to do with the particular thing I'm covering.
I mean, it's just, it's insane.
And that was explained, and we gave them all the stuff.
And that was one of the reasons.
The other thing is we wanted to depose Hillary because it came out that she was involved with the feds.
And so they said, that's it.
You know, you won't do that.
So now the judge finds you guilty.
This is the crap they pull.
So here's a short clip of Harrison Smith explaining it.
I think he did a great job.
Here it is.
harrison smith
This, according to Grock, is why we received a default judgment.
We're not allowed to defend ourselves.
Jones was ordered in 2019 and 2020 to produce financial records, web analytics, like Google Analytics, and marketing data showing how InfoWars profited from Sandy Hook content.
They wanted us to provide them evidence that we were guilty.
By mid-2021, he turned over only sanitized or partial records, e.g., fragmented sales figures with no context about Sandy Hook-related revenue.
Well, we don't have context about Sandy Hook-related revenue.
We talk about all sorts of things.
Our callers call in and bring something up.
People go to the store sometimes.
They don't go to the store other times.
It just has no bearing on what we cover, how we cover it.
For instance, in a June 2021 hearing, they argued he hadn't disclosed contacts or communications with advertisers tied to Sandy Hook broadcasts.
What the hell does that mean?
We haven't disclosed contacts with advertisers about Sandy Hook.
We don't have advertisers.
We don't have any contacts with advertisers.
We have the Alex Jones store.
Back then, we had the Infowar store.
We had maybe a gold person or whatever.
But again, they're asking for something that doesn't exist.
And then they're default, giving us a default judgment when we don't provide the records that don't exist.
Got the crew that produces the show.
I gather all the news.
We just, it's all free form.
It's all spur of the moment, edge of the seat.
I mean, that's how we do things.
There's no logins doing things that way.
Then they go in and say, well, where's your internal communications?
Where you talk about how covering Sandy Hook gets you more money.
What?
It doesn't exist.
Oh, you're withholding that, are you?
Default judgment.
We own your life now.
That's literally what happened.
All right.
Either give us things that prove you're guilty or we will declare you're guilty.
alex jones
And now they just defaulted myself.
harrison smith
For the iceberg, folks.
alex jones
For $1.5 billion, a federal judge said smartmatic machines cannot be hacked.
Literally, I read the ruling yesterday on there with Linnell.
He said, he's not even a software engineer.
He just says, I find you guilty.
You cannot hack computers.
It's like saying a bear can't take a shit in the woods.
I mean, it is, it is, oh, 1.5 billion.
But now they're going to have a jury decide that if it was malice, even more.
So you're benchmarked guilty.
And now we're going to decide how guilty.
And for the public, we'll give you a show trial where the jury tells you you're guilty.
So this is a seismic event by the Supreme Court.
They did this to Giuliani, everybody else.
And where's the Trump administration?
Where is Todd Blanch, who I'm not trying to be enemies with?
And Ed Martin didn't tell me bad things about him.
But I bring up all my stuff to Ed Martin.
He's at the weaponization task force.
And we've got all the proof of the Justice Department funding all this, admitting it.
He was the one interested in it.
He starts an investigation, basic, you know, told them to preserve their records.
It wasn't just the lawyer you saw, some other stuff.
And they completely flipped out because this is the Justice Department protecting itself.
And so I don't want to spend the whole hour with Robert Barnes on this because I want to pick his brain on a whole bunch of other subjects, but this is a really, really, really big deal.
And Barnes actually worked on the case early on.
And he said, look, it's totally rigged.
They're just going to default you and shut you down.
It doesn't matter what you do.
And he said, so, you know, that's the way it is.
And I actually knew he was right because the other lawyers in the case were like, well, it doesn't matter if you don't have marketing.
We got to give them some marketing.
They said, give them your plug sheets, which is just whatever the sale is.
Today, a free hat with every order, $25 off, and then talk about the products.
It has nothing to do with the content of what we do.
It's completely straight because this is talk radio.
That's what I started out on is talk radio.
And people just get good talk show hosts, whether it's sports or news or gardening or whatever that know the subject that people like.
And you come on, you talk.
And then that's it.
And I guess it's a gardening show.
They usually own a gardening nursery and they sell dirt and tulips or something.
I mean, here it's like we sell what's hot, supplements, patriot gear, stuff like that.
It has nothing to do.
But they have this theory, the statute of limitations was up and all this stuff, that it was unfair marketing fraud.
And so they went with this thing that I made all this money, made no money, barely ever talked about these people.
They raised hundreds of millions off my name on record.
We now know because we sued them and got the documents saying I was persecuting them.
So everything you hear is the opposite, but it's not about me.
This is a very dangerous precedent.
And now they have the onion that's funded by Bloomberg bragging that they're going to come into the state court and have the judge that I guess controls the receiver or whatever, just give them for no money again, like they tried to federal court, this place so they can misrepresent and confuse people using my logos, my face.
100%, they're not going to get away with it.
And they don't control all the courts.
So we're suing them.
We're already suing them.
And that's why it's important to fund us.
Not just stay on the air, but we're going on full offense.
And I've got lawyers that have won major defamation cases and other cases.
They say this is pure abusive process, which is not a sexy word, but that's illegal.
It's a very sexy thing.
And so it's on, baby.
And then everybody thinks we're invincible because we survived so many years of this.
There's no more moves.
And so the receiver was here last week.
He'll be here next Monday.
I'm like being completely polite, have some coffee.
Okay, great.
All right.
All right.
Well, okay, what's the date?
And we're Cyanara.
You're the last broadcaster.
Okay.
So that's it.
That's all she wrote.
But the name InfoWars, just because the onion wants to steal it, the former MSNBC head censor that runs it, he said, if I, they said on an interview a month ago on Wired, he said, if I was God for today, my main desire is I want InfoWars.
And he says in interviews, I want to confuse people and be Alex Jones.
And they said last year in a court filing in federal court, they were trying to get my name.
They said that they own my name, Alex Jones.
They said, yes, the 13th Amendment against slavery applies to everybody else, but Jones is a special case with no evidence.
Elon Musk had to come in and block him.
So they're using me to try to set precedents undreamed of, as Robert Burns warned many years ago.
So a very popular podcaster, great historian, wonderful lawyer, good friend of mine, at Barnes underscore law on X. And of course, he co-hosts with Eva Fry, great broadcast as well.
Robert, that's kind of my lay breakdown of this.
But, you know, my lawyers were devastated because they thought it would be refused by the first committee and then the lawyers.
When it got to the Supreme Court, they thought, well, certainly when they see this presentation where I'd say people died at Sandy Hook, but some people think it's a synthetic event.
And we can show how, I didn't even say what they said, that it was just devastating.
And no, they kicked it out with no comment.
They were, I told them, I said, it will not happen because of political cowardice.
So that's my take on it.
I don't want to spend the whole interview on this, but it's good to see you.
What do you make of this?
How big a deal is this?
robert barnes
Well, it's a very perilous precedent being set, and it parallels various times in American legal history, beginning of the country, again in the buildup to the Civil War, again during the labor disputes of the late 19th century, and again during the civil rights controversies of the mid-20th century, where our legal system itself, our courts themselves, became complicit violators of civil rights.
Indeed, the Civil Rights Act of 1871 exists because of the abuse of power by state court judges in complicity with the Ku Klux Klan.
So what you people are seeing right now with federal judges siding with Antifa, protecting Antifa in Portland, Oregon and Chicago, Illinois, is a broad indicator, just like they're protecting illegal immigrants run by drug cartels, as cartels are putting out bounties on ICE officers in the United States as that effective domestic, as that effective war continues.
All of it represents and reflects a judicial system that has gone AWOL, that has absconded from its constitutional obligations and is facilitating and enabling the most dangerous violations of our civil rights that can occur.
And when the judiciary is the violator of civil rights, where do you go for relief?
Where do you go for remedy?
Because they're the ones that are supposed to be the only institution intended for relief and remedy from the violation of civil rights.
What happens when it's the judges violating it?
And as a backstory, for those that don't know the whole story, I came and investigated the whole Sandy Hook case on behalf of Alex to make a First Amendment challenge, which we brought up at the Texas Supreme Court, sat on their lazy rears and didn't take the case.
Hopefully someday they will.
I think they will ultimately say, oh, this was a complete, the hoax was the law, was the lies about and libels about Alex Jones related to this from the beget-ko.
alex jones
And by the way, you didn't just believe me.
You came in here for, you were here for months.
You lived here.
You dug through everything.
You were laughing like the idea that we had marketing on them or something.
Yeah.
robert barnes
Yeah, it was all nuts.
I mean, the reason why I told you the get-go, that they were going to try some trick to make sure you never got a trial on the merits.
alex jones
No, you said to me years before it happened, you said, there's no evidence.
They're going to try a trick and say you're defaulted.
You called it.
robert barnes
Yeah, and the reason was their whole theory was false.
Their whole theory was that Alex Jones and InfoWars made a bunch of money going around saying Sandy Hook never happened.
99% of what InfoWars published concerning Sandy Hook acknowledged it happened.
One of the leading critics of any questioning of Sandy Hook in certain aspects was the editor of InfoWars, Paul Joseph Watson.
It's almost all the public.
When you went live the night of Sandy Hook, you didn't second guess Sandy Hook at all.
What you said was they're going to cover up the role of SSRIs.
They're going to cover up the role of bad psychological care.
They're going to cover up the lack of adequate security for these young kids.
They're going to cover up those things in order to, they're going to cover up.
alex jones
And they said that for the first year until it became a big internet thing questioning it.
And then we simply had debates with different people from different newspapers, pro and con.
We had a couple debates.
robert barnes
Oh, exactly.
In fact, of the million plus words published or broadcast by InfoWars, 99% of it completely did not dispute whether Sandy Hook occurred.
alex jones
And I love it.
The publisher said, I sold out and said it happened later.
I always said I think it happened.
That's how crazy it is.
Just because the news publishes that Trump says, I love the KKK, where's the clip?
He never said it.
robert barnes
Oh, completely.
And so when I realized that their entire case was the opposite of what they were pitching, that they knew the actual evidence would exonerate you and exculpate you and not incriminate you.
Then they, because they had this fictional, fabricated, fantastical model of who Alex Jones was being portrayed in shows like Homeland on Showtime that's all driven by money, that you'll capitulate as soon as you lose any money that they thought that was your motive.
All of it was bogus.
All of it was garbage.
Their own data, their own information proved it was garbage.
So what did they have to do?
They had to make a fake case that they had to pretend the facts were otherwise.
So what they did is Harrison well detailed, they demanded, and this is what I predicted they would do, unfortunately, is like, they're going to pretend you have evidence you don't have, and then they're going to demand you produce the evidence you don't have.
And when you don't produce the evidence you never had, they're going to use that as an excuse to default you.
And it was clear.
And I was getting into that.
alex jones
There's this pre-planning.
We haven't talked in like three, four months on the phone.
I just say, get Barnes on.
They were like, what do you do with the host?
How do you pre-plan?
I've seen Harris said, how's your wife and kids?
I haven't talked to Harris in a month for more than two minutes.
He's just about to be hosting a show.
This idea that we like pre-plan everything, it's a total fraud.
robert barnes
Oh, absolutely.
And not only that, they knew from the actual data that when you track the information, this information was given to them and they tried to bury it, which was that when Sandy Hook was even brought up as a topic at all, it led to negative reactions in your audience.
Not a positive reaction.
You asking questions about it was not favorable to your bottom line or Infowars support at all.
And that was clear in the affirmative data.
So they knew their whole story was a lie.
Their big story was a big fact fiction.
That the hoax of Sandy Hook is the lies that have been told about you related to Sandy Hook.
alex jones
And let's be clear.
I don't manipulate the audience.
I just go with what I think's right.
If I wanted to have the show 10 times bigger, I would just cover positive news and winning and show videos making fun of liberals.
But I want to warn about real threats, uprisings.
People don't, most of the audience doesn't actually like to hear the bad news.
The secret of this broadcast is we don't follow ratings.
We follow the truth.
And over the long term, though, we get the hardcore viewers.
But yeah, the idea that I tailor stuff for what the audience wants, that has not, I just, what I think is right, I cover it.
robert barnes
Oh, exactly.
There is no audience capture.
There never has.
Indeed, the reason for most of the people that tune in is respecting that.
That at times when they've been enraged at something you said, they learned to respect the fact that they were getting your honest, authentic opinion.
Might not always be right, but it's way above the batting average for everybody else in this space.
But they respect not only the accuracy of the information, but the authenticity of it.
And anybody who had watched Alex Jones and Infowars would know that.
But the evidence was all there.
So when I started digging through all the evidence, I mean, they wanted emails sent through the trash.
I mean, they did everything to disguise and hide what the case was about.
alex jones
Most of the detections were.
The judgments were unopened emails that lunatics sent us.
robert barnes
Exactly.
That's exactly right.
And they were pretending that had something to do with it.
It had nothing to do with it.
So it was all fiction.
It was all fabricated.
It was an abusive process at its core.
And the judges were the lead complicit culpable actors.
So much so when I say actors, I mean literally actors because this judge was being brought in a HBO documentary film to film the show trial.
And that's what it was.
That's what Mike Lindell is being subject to up in Minnesota, show trial.
They're taking the Soviet stasi Cuban techniques of show trials and they're incorporating them into American justice.
And it is an utter disgrace.
We've had examples of it in history, but luckily very few in American law.
And now they're coming back full throttle and they're going to keep coming at this level.
That's why the judges themselves, an honest civil rights inquiry by the Justice Department would not be limited to the corrupt and rogue lawyers in this case.
And those funding them, it would include the state court judges themselves.
alex jones
Well, that's what was going to happen.
I can tell you exclusively.
They were looking at the courts.
Why do you think Todd Blanch shut this down?
robert barnes
Todd Blanch is a corporate whore, New York Democrat lawyer who weaseled his way into Trump world because he saw a big fat check coming from President Donald Trump by defending him.
I saw no efficacy in his advocacy to be blunt about it.
I saw nothing special that he did in those New York cases in the court of public opinion or in the courts of law or in front of the judge or the jury to suggest he has any special skill set, least of all loyalty to President Trump.
He's part of long old established corporate defense white shoe law firms in New York, the same kind of law firms that were complicit in going after you.
Not only in this case, in the Pepe case and a bunch of other cases.
I mean, he's connected to law firms that spent millions of dollars coming going after you related to the Pepe case out of their own pocket.
So I have no confidence in Todd Blanche.
Todd Blanch is the guy who bragged about the idiocy of the Epstein cover-up that they snookered Trump into doing.
So I have no, there's no reason to trust.
alex jones
He's the one that convinced Trump to cover up something he's not involved in has been proven.
That's exactly right.
This guy's like the plague.
robert barnes
Completely, completely.
I mean, Pam Bondi is just, I think, in over her head, but I don't think she has bad intentions.
I do think Todd Blanch has bad intentions.
That New York Times piece, you know, it wouldn't shock me at all if Todd Blanche is one of the sources for that piece.
Well, publicly said, oh, no, it's all false, nothing else.
Everything about it screamed.
That's the kind of guy he is.
He's angling to be the attorney general.
He's the second coming of Bill Barr.
There's nothing about that.
alex jones
Documents now leaked an undercover video.
Bill Barr going around while he's the attorney general setting up the indictments of Trump.
So this is Bill Barr's baby.
Todd Blanche is literally the spawn of Bill Barr.
robert barnes
And ideologically and intellectually and politically and philosophically, absolutely.
And I read that New York Times piece as him getting out there.
He's doing the best he can and trying to weasel it, trying to protect the deep state.
Why was James Comey prosecuted the last possible minute?
Mike Davis keeps running around Steve Bannon saying there's these big efforts to investigate.
Hey, that, you know, Obama's about to be indicted.
Hillary's about to be indicted.
I see no evidence of that.
None.
I hope Clapper doesn't know.
alex jones
Why is the New York Times writing kissy-kissy things about Todd Blanche?
robert barnes
Exactly.
Well, you know, why does he love to hang out with Caitlin Collins at the CNN and have special dinner after Trump got elected?
I mean, there's nothing in this guy.
Where's the civil rights background in this guy?
Tell me about the great civil rights cases he's taken.
Tell me about the cases that he's taken against the government, against big corporations, against powerful institutions in the civil context.
Tell me the cases where he's gone after the Southern District of New York, because I know of none.
I know of none.
I mean, I've been in this case.
alex jones
This is Trump's blind spot because it was his criminal lawyer who lost all his cases.
And now, literally, here it goes again.
Trump's done.
Look, we love Trump, but what the hell's going on with Todd Blanch?
robert barnes
Trump keeps looking for Roy Cohn.
And because of how he got burned with Sessions, which was due to things that, you know, some of us told him were going to happen with Sessions.
Sessions wasn't a treasonous person at all or a seditious person at all.
He just had a misplaced confidence in the Justice Department.
But it led to the betrayal of President Trump's.
alex jones
Sessions was naive.
robert barnes
Exactly, exactly.
He was an idealist.
He's like some of the lawyers you had to deal with in your case.
They were saying, oh, no, the legal system's okay.
Just produce something, Alex.
It's all going to be all right.
And I was getting into arguments with him all the time saying, you don't understand how political cases work.
This is the nature of it.
And so he looks for loyalist.
And I understand that instinct.
The problem is loyalty doesn't always equal competency.
Loyalty doesn't always equal true.
alex jones
Loyalty.
Blanche acts like he's loyal, but he's clearly, he was hand-picked Southern District.
He's a leftist, chosen one.
I mean, you know.
unidentified
Exactly.
alex jones
Oh, my God.
robert barnes
I mean, I mean, I'll give him credit.
He weaseled his way into Trump world by saying by leaving his big white two corporate firm without much consequence, I might say.
alex jones
Oh, you know, they sent him in.
robert barnes
Exactly.
That's what it looks like to me.
It looks like they sent him in so that he could be the fit, you know, to weasel his way into Trump world and make sure that he could co-op power so that the Justice Department didn't bring real justice to the roads.
alex jones
Having all these lunches with CNN people is cool.
Here's the thing.
I don't think they realize their bubbles burst, Bob.
I don't think they realize it's over.
I mean, people are done with them.
I mean, it's over.
robert barnes
Oh, completely.
I mean, the Epstein disaster was so mishandled.
So it was, no matter what the objective was, it was so mishandled from a court of public opinion perspective that they have lost all confidence.
alex jones
I mean, they don't know it was Todd Blanche that convinced Trump to protect the deep state.
And then the Democrats turn around and stab him in the back when we have the main Epstein investigator get caught by Veritas undercover saying, no, Trump's not involved, but the CIA and Mossad asked him to cover it up.
That's Todd Blanche.
So literally, he convinced Trump to sign on to this that made Trump lose 10 points in the polls.
This guy is the plague.
I mean, it's true.
It'll come out.
rob dew
I also notice your cup is stained blue on the inside.
unidentified
I've been caught.
rob dew
You got a little, did you find some methylene blue floating around here?
alex jones
I did, man.
unidentified
I commandeered some from Harrison's office.
rob dew
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unidentified
Amen.
rob dew
I know Stewart's going to be looking for a bottle.
I'm going to go try to track one down for him.
If you don't mind, a bottle that I like.
Oh, you like both?
What do you like better?
alex jones
You know what?
unidentified
I like them both.
When I'm traveling, the pill is definitely easier.
rob dew
Yeah, it's not going to, you're not worried about it breaking open.
scott bessent
On the way over here, I took a couple while I'm driving.
unidentified
Yeah.
rob dew
So with driving, did you feel more alert while you were driving?
Absolutely.
unidentified
And I took a couple shots to Welman here in lieu of coffee.
alex jones
You guys ran out of coffee?
rob dew
It's like, oh, you got some methylene blue.
That's all he needs, is a little methylene blue.
oliver anthony
I was hoping you had some of the Alex Jones ones.
How is Alex?
alex jones
He's great.
rob dew
He lost a lot of weight.
oliver anthony
I saw he's getting like, yeah, he's ready for the next.
joe rogan
My friend Sean Johnson's training him.
oliver anthony
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, he gets up every morning.
He works out for hours.
He's lost, I think he's lost 70 pounds at this point.
He looks fantastic, man.
He looks fantastic.
He looks like he's 20 years younger.
People think this is really funny because, you know, his whole business is conspiracy theories.
It's a conspiracy that Alex has been replaced.
alex jones
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Listen, folks, that's real Alex.
unidentified
I've watched every step of the way, and my friend trains him.
joe rogan
So I can tell you for a fact that is the real Alex Jones.
Quit drinking, quit eating bad food.
He's eating healthy food now.
He works out every day.
It's like Noel's Empic, no shortcuts.
jay in pennsylvania
He did it the right way.
oliver anthony
He looks great.
alex jones
You find it all at the onshowshore.com and it funds the most hardcore patriot organization worldwide.
Absolutely devastating the globalist in our peaceful information war.
joe rogan
Holy sh.
He was right about every step of the way.
alex jones
So we have the deep state, all the documents, the witnesses, everything caught red-handed running the fake trials against me, trying to sabotage the sale, keep get us off air.
And then Ed Martin does his job.
It's his classic weaponization with the government against people.
Comes in, Todd Blanche blocks it.
And now, obviously, Blanche is gunning for Martin all the time.
Trump needs to obviously rearrange the situation here.
Because only when Trump got mad and sent that letter out on Monday and did all this and he finally gets some action and finally they were sitting on top of these indictments.
Now they say the indictment of Bolton is imminent.
Grand jury expected to indict ex-National Security Advisor John Bolton for transmitting classified document sources that we just already done.
Who else is on that list?
What is the deep state going to do?
And what should the message be to Trump about what he needs to do and not make the same mistakes he made eight years ago, Robert Marx?
robert barnes
You know, I would like Mike Davis to be right.
At least they're finally using the language that we've talked about for over a year now, which your case is emblematic of, but so are all these other cases, which is what really happened in Russia Gate, in Spygate, in Mullergate, in Ukraine Gate, in all of the weaponization of the legal system against President Trump once he was out of office.
All of that, the common pattern was an intention to deprive President Trump and many of his supporters of their federally protected civil rights.
This is what the Klan Act of 1871 is supposed to address.
It also addresses things like the Tran Tifa organized violence that's taking place in Portland or Chicago or that led to the murder of Charlie Kirk.
So it's all part of the same pattern intended to deprive ordinary and everyday Americans, including in this case, the president of the United States, from his own federally protected civil rights.
That gives venue and jurisdiction to the Southern District of Florida.
It allows the court case to be referred to as a related case.
So it goes to Judge Cannon, who has shown independence and impartiality and a willingness to stand up to the deep state, relative unique in the federal judicial branch.
So you can bring all the cases, the grand jury's there, the jury trials there, all of the bench presiding right there in front of that judge.
And that's what unites Obama, Clinton, Clapper, Brennan, Comey, all of them, the Bolton, you name it.
Now they have additional crimes on Comey, like perjury.
They have additional and false statements and obstruction of justice.
They have additional crimes on Bolton, like stealing classified information and leaking it and monetizing it for his personal self-enrichment.
I mean, a guy used AOL emails who still uses AOL email.
I mean, that's, I mean, and a foreign government hacked it.
I wonder who that might be.
But the, you know, it might point in a certain direction.
But we have those additional crimes, but what unites them all is the overarching conspiracy.
When they raided Trump's house, that was part of the conspiracy to strip him of his federally protected civil rights and to strip all of us of our federally protected civil rights to vote for whom we want for President of the United States.
Because that was the ultimate long-term objective was to derail that opportunity for the American voter.
That places jurisdiction and venue in the Southern District of Florida, in Palm Beach, where Judge Cannon should, as a related case matter, preside.
Then you don't have judicial corruption colluding up the case.
You don't have a bad jury pool.
You don't have a bad grand jury pool.
You don't have a bunch of prosecutors in that office trying to sabotage you on a daily basis.
One of the things Todd Blanche did that prevented real reform and remedy is he refused to go along with what many of us had said was necessary, was the mass firing of these rogue prosecutors, especially in the District of Corruption, where they ran Ed Martin out while he was trying to clean it up, and the Eastern District of Virginia.
It is leaking like a sieve.
How many of those prosecutors are sabotaging our own government cases on a daily basis?
And they were able to get it so that magically Comey is now assigned, just like Big Tisch.
Both of them got assigned liberal lefty Democratic judges by just random assignment.
I don't think so.
So the and that judge is already doing everything possible to make sure Comey never sees justice.
And then you have the Justice Department not making sure these guys got perp walked.
These are people that the, you know, generally speaking, I'm all in for summonses instead of arrest.
But in these high-profile cases, Democrats set the precedent over the last five years.
They said you got to raid him and you got to perp walk him in order to send the public message.
So hey, that's the rules they set.
We got to stick with those rules.
We can't now.
alex jones
They ordered the perp walks of us, so they got him down.
robert barnes
Exactly.
And the Democrats said that this is important in any high-profile political case.
You got to perp walk any individual defendant, no matter the nature of the case otherwise.
Well, that means Comey needed to be perp walked.
I mean, the Cauchy political betting markets still don't realize, yes, Cole Comey got arrested.
You can't get summons into a court.
He went, he got mugshot.
alex jones
The difference is the thing.
Back to Todd Blanche.
I don't want to make him the enemy.
I wasn't told by Mark and everybody else.
They say he's the one.
They say Bonnie just does TV.
He really doesn't run anything.
They say he is in there sabotaging everything.
He is the guy.
And like, how do we get Trump to wake up out of this mind control?
robert barnes
I think he's just continuing to bring it into the court of public attention and continuing to promote those attorneys that are doing really good work.
So, you know, Assistant Attorney General Harmee Dillon at the Civil Rights Division is doing is doing God's work.
I mean, just this week, when my hometown school wanted to stop Turning Point USA from forming at the campus of UT Chattanooga, I raised the stink about it.
And to her credit, she stepped in and said she was monitoring the case.
As soon as that happened, UTC reversed its position.
That may lead to every public high school in the college that was trying to obstruct Turning Point, not being able to do so with just a single reply to a single tweet of mine.
alex jones
That's right.
So you need to come up with a list of people that we know are performing and doing their job and get it to Trump.
robert barnes
Exactly.
Gail Slater at AAG Antitrust doing God's work, doing great work.
Army Dylan, Ed Martin doing God's work and great work.
Army Dillon doing good, God, God's work and good work.
These are people that need to be elevated.
These are the people that need to replace, you know, appoint Blanche some ambassador, like they did with Sergio Gordon.
They sent him off to India so he gets Cavino in there.
So at least you had somebody that wasn't trying to antagonize the relationship between Trump and Elon Musk like Gore was doing on a daily basis.
Against somebody that's aligned with MAGA, not misaligned with MAGA.
alex jones
Now, I think as long as the good news: Todd Blanch can play his games, but when more indictments don't come quick enough and Trump learns, he's done.
That's exactly right.
And quite frankly, we had a good idea when this happened.
I'll leave it at that, that he was going to reveal himself through this.
So there's kind of wheels within wheels.
And so the little consolation prize was he did reveal himself.
And that's one more strike on him now.
robert barnes
Exactly.
And good work also by the Second Amendment groups.
Gun owners of America, these other groups calling out Blanche, who he, to my knowledge, he is the one bottlenecking the Second Amendment cases full review.
So the Justice Department is still joining, arguing for depriving people of their Second Amendment rights.
alex jones
So he's a leftist gun grabber blocking the Second Amendment reforms that have already happened in court.
This is a nasty guy.
And people that are defending him are brown-nosing him because I think they worry they've got cases on them.
He's going to protect them.
robert barnes
That's exactly what's going on.
I mean, you can't expect anybody within the Justice Department to come out publicly against Blanche.
That would be career suicide.
So I let them all off the hook.
But these other people like Mike Davis brown-nosing him.
Come on.
I mean, Davis is saying that there's going to be indictments on Clapper, Brennan, Ray, the Norm Eisen, and Obama and Clinton before, you know, very soon.
Well, when that doesn't happen, I want to see him go public and admit who the problem is because I get he's got cases in front of the Justice Department.
I got cases in front of the Justice Department.
I'm never going to shut my mouth on what is right and what is necessary for the country so I can line my own pocket or do something to do a special favor for I've never done that in my life, never gonna do it.
That's just not who I am.
So I get some lawyers feel pressure to do that.
That's how you get snookered into covering up incompetency, covering up someone who's endangering the federally protected civil rights of America, someone who is allowing the deep state to continue to conspire against President Trump and the United States of America.
alex jones
If Trump doesn't take action on this, but look at this headline.
Oh, DOJ leader shoot out MAGA operative over crusade to get revenge for Alex Jones.
We have the documents.
The DOJ illegally ran this and funded lawsuits to shut down a talk show host.
That's what the weaponization task force is supposed to do.
But they're all revenge for me.
Revenge for what?
robert barnes
That isn't revenge.
That is getting the legal system corrected, getting the corrupt actors out and making sure that the right people are held responsible so that our federally protected civil rights are still protected.
That's like pretending that the Klan Act, Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871, was some, the Civil Rights Act of 1871 was somehow a meant as revenge against the Confederacy in the South.
No, it was meant to protect black Southerners from being hung on the streets and having their civil rights protected everywhere in schools and businesses and everything else and voting and registering, et cetera.
They were systematically stripping them of those rights.
And that is what has been happening.
Lawfair has been stripping us of our rights to where you don't even feel safe and comfortable going on a college campus to debate because these Trantifa conspirators might murder you.
So do something about it.
And so far, Todd Blanche has done nothing about it but obstruct, obstruct, obstruct.
And if he wants to prove us all wrong, real easy, Todd, let's start seeing results.
And let's start seeing results quicker and sooner and earlier than we have seen so far.
I see no evidence that he's doing any of that.
Why did the newly appointed U.S. attorney of the Eastern District of Virginia, who was only appointed after Trump accidentally published a truth that he meant to personally send to Pam Bondi that called her out for this, got her appointed.
When she went after Letish James, she hid that, hid that from Todd Blanch.
This is now public.
Why did she feel the need to hide that from Todd Blanche unless Todd Blanche is the obstructor, the obstacle in all of this?
alex jones
The role of Trump puts her in because they already had the indictment and the other so-called Republican was blocking him.
And then she has to hide it from him or he'll sabotage it.
Well, here's the thing about this thing.
Trump's sometimes slow.
Sometimes he's really fast.
I'm going to make a prediction.
I don't think Mr. Blanch is there very soon, but he's got the Epstein role convincing Trump to cover it up when there was no evidence of Trump involved.
Let's zoom in on him and Epstein, and he's along with Maxwell visiting with her and all this stuff.
robert barnes
Exactly.
And he seems to be using it almost as leverage on the president of the United States.
That's what it appears to me.
alex jones
So is Tom Epstein blackmailing Trump and with what?
robert barnes
With pretending there's things in the Epstein file that aren't there, and that he's the guy that can make sure that misinformation about Epstein implicating Trump never gets published, never goes broad.
That's what I think.
That's what it looks to me is happening at some level because Trump was convinced.
alex jones
Notice how the left has dropped the Trump Epstein stuff, which there's no evidence.
Even the top investigator got caught on tech.
No, Trump's not involved.
All the witnesses say that.
But then now he somehow got roped into this.
Oh, it's disgusting.
robert barnes
Well, just think about where this guy comes from.
He comes from the Southern District of New York.
He clerks at the Southern District of New York.
alex jones
And that's what he wants to do.
robert barnes
Exactly.
The centerpiece of the worst lawfare in the country over the last quarter century isn't even the District of Corruption.
It's what they call the sovereign district of New York that has done abuse of abuse after abuse in civil and criminal cases.
That was the lead that sat by and did nothing while they wrongfully persecuted and prosecuted President Trump in state court.
It was the Southern District of New York that refused to take corrective or remedial action, that abandoned his defenses on immunity in the civil cases and abandoned his right to removal on the federal cases.
So the Sovereign District of New York is one of the most corrupt departments in the world.
So when you see a prosecutor, you see a lawyer who was born and bred in the sovereign district of New York, whose dream job was the sovereign district of New York, who learned where does James Comey come from?
Sovereign District of New York.
Where does his daughter come from?
Sovereign District of New York.
They're all Southern District of New York people.
They're all connected back to that same.
alex jones
Who spied the Epstein file to hand it over to Bondi as a poison pill?
Southern District of New York.
Exactly.
And Trump should ask: who brought Todd Blanche to him as his criminal lawyer?
He should go back to that moment.
robert barnes
Exactly.
How long has he really known Todd Blanche?
I mean, that should be one red flag.
If Blanche was so true, MAGA, where was he in 2016, 2017, 2020?
Where was he in all any of those years until he could write himself a big fat check and weasel his way into the top of the Justice Department by, in my view, feigning a defense?
Because I didn't see a very good PR defense for Trump in those cases.
And I saw a mediocre presentation in court on those cases.
So nothing about, by the way, in the criminal defense world, nobody has great respect for Blanche.
There's nobody.
I get what Trump wants.
He wants another Roy Cohn.
But look for somebody not with what you think is the appearance of flattery, which is this is bogus loyalty.
It's dubious flattery meant to deceive you.
And so what you need for Roy, look for someone with the skill set of Roy Cohn, someone with the cojones of Roy Cohn, someone who knows how to take apart a power structure like Roy Cohn could do.
Someone who could match the Andrew Weissmans of the world at being aggressive with the legal system in the way you need to be to take out these rogue deep state co-conspirators who want to ruin the city.
alex jones
I totally agree, Sir Robert.
Here's the bottom line.
You're the same like me.
You're smart.
You're informed.
You're dialed in.
I don't want to fight with the deputy AG.
I was already hearing horrible things about him the last six, eight months.
And then he rushes in as soon as the Democrats get pissed.
They're red-handed weaponization, DOJ on the stand, secret documents, undercover videos.
We have them.
The exact amounts of money paid to the foundations, then pay to the lawyers within a week.
And that's Ed Martin's charge to do that.
And then he calls him on the carpet and does all this.
And now we see the Supreme Court thing.
I mean, imagine Trump doesn't have time.
The midterms are coming up.
What is the maneuver?
And who do we get in?
Because I've heard Bonnie's not bad.
She loves doing TV.
She just basically does TV and lives in Florida.
Who do we get in as the real deputy AG?
robert barnes
There's, I mean, honestly, Ed Martin would make a great deputy AG.
Just elevate him to deputy AG and see if they're willing to try to block him in the Senate.
Use the opportunity of a recess appointment if necessary.
But Ed shows sincerity.
Ed shows interest.
And Ed knows things.
Like he wouldn't make the mistake of Blanche saying, oh, we can screw over Jones.
He's a fringe figure.
You're talking about the most popular, most watched, most viewed, most listened to, independent commentator in the country.
And one of the most in the world, the news stations that covered your story, this story about the Supreme Court denying you relief and remedy was covered literally around the world because I subscribed to all these global media publications.
I subscribed to the Russians and the Arabs and the French and the Italians and the Germans and you name it.
Latins, Brazilians, Central Americans, Australians, China, you name it.
They're covering the Alex Jones story because Todd Blanch is so in a tiny little bubble, he doesn't even know how consequential this is.
And this is why he thinks he can get away with it because he lives in this little political bubble.
He has his whole life.
Nothing about the guy says he understands anything about MAGA or that he has any commitment to America's civil rights.
He's never done civil rights cases to my knowledge in his entire life.
So there's nothing about him to suggest he has the skill set.
So pick somebody with a skill set.
At least Ed Martin has the willpower and the public political know-how.
Harmik Dylan has the political know-how and the right connections and the right understanding.
So Harmik Dylan's been immersed in these civil rights cases for a decade.
She could be capable.
She could be competent.
So the and she would be easy to elevate because she's already been approved by the Senate.
So you could put her up tomorrow.
You could just, hey, Todd, what's your favorite place to go?
Be a diplomat.
I'll send you to be an ambassador to the Bahamas.
Well, I guess, you know, Herschel Walker's there, but, you know, Turks and Caicos, whatever you want.
You know, we'll send you there.
Go be an ambassador over there.
You know, take your wife, have, have nice fun on the government.
alex jones
Why do you say Trump has this blind spot?
Because you did lawyer stuff for him in the 2020 theft.
I mean, Trump's great on so many fronts, but he's not trillion D Chesla, everybody says.
What is this blind spot to bring in Democrat, thoroughbred, obvious enemies just because they sit there and smile at him?
robert barnes
I mean, well, you know, it's like the old country song.
We see it on his foreign policy that, you know, looking for love in all the wrong places.
Trump looks for loyalty in all the wrong places.
Trump looks for leverage in all the wrong places on foreign policy.
It took him until just two weeks ago to figure out his leverage wasn't on Hamas.
His leverage is on BB.
Right now he's playing games pretending he's got leverage on Russia when his leverage is on Zelensky in Europe.
And he keeps making mistakes because of this.
But he tends to look for loyalty in the wrong places.
He's forgotten his own lessons.
He himself has repeatedly said he was shocked when he went through his bankruptcy and all the rest that who was loyal and who wasn't.
alex jones
And he thinks bombing Russia with cruise missiles will make Russia give up.
If Putin doesn't go to full war, the Russians will remove him.
That is the even the Rand Corporation says don't do that.
They told Biden don't do that.
Like everybody knows that's the default wrong move.
So who's telling him that Lindsey Graham?
robert barnes
Oh, exactly.
He keeps chasing Lady Lindsay when Lady Liberty is right there available in the church pew to marry.
So he's the and it's repeated.
I mean, he's escalating with Russia.
Right now, if we were working with Russia, Russia would be helping us deal with China.
Russia has lots of rare earths.
Russia can keep energy costs under control.
Russia can provide all kinds of things that China currently we depend upon for.
But we can't do that because we're threatening instead to send bombs and missiles into Moscow for on behalf of who?
This coked up lunatic in Ukraine who is when you're on with Tucker, explain what a disgrace this is that we're siding up with this loser who's busy harassing and persecuting Christians, suppressing every single liberty known to man, suspending and disbanding elections.
alex jones
He's removing his political opponents of their citizenship.
robert barnes
Yeah, that's what he did yesterday.
He just took the mayor of Odessa.
Oh, you're no longer a citizen.
This guy is a little tyrant.
He's a petty tyrant.
Now, he might look like a comedic character from a Charlie Chaplin film, but in fact, he's more like a horror film character.
He's more like little Chucky.
That's who Zelensky is.
And he would be a disaster for Trump.
Trump today is talking about 500% sanctions on any country that buys Russian oil.
That would sink our fragile economy.
That would fracture it right at the core.
And who would get all the blame for it?
Trump, because of that precise policy.
And for what?
Russia will never quit.
As Russians told me a long time ago, said Barnes, we would rather eat dirt than surrender.
And anybody who knows the history of St. Petersburg during what they call the Great War, what we call World War II, knows how literally true that is.
And that's the world Putin grew up in.
Putin was born seven, eight years after that.
His mother, his father, his grandmother, his grandfather, aunts and uncles, all connected to it.
When one out of every three men in Russia died in that war from the Nazis.
Anybody, they beat Napoleon.
Heck, they even beat the Mongols back in the day.
So why in the world do you want to escalate with Russia when we need Russia as a mediator in a lot of these global conflicts, including the Middle East and Iran?
alex jones
Who on record wants to come into the West?
It's the stupidest move on the planet.
Well, I am just flabbergasted by all this.
It's surreal to be at the center of this and then to watch him default Mike Lindell for $1.5 billion a judge, no jury trial.
The big question is, will Trump defend his supporters?
It's not about, oh, defend me.
I defend you.
It's so simple.
He gets defending J6 people.
Well, this whole lawfare thing, you know, is much bigger.
Yeah, this new Republican owner of the big voting machine company, they dropped the stuff on Giuliani, but not on Lindell because Giuliani, you know, it does some shows, but he's faded.
Lindell has popular shows.
They want it shut down because Lindell wants paper ballots.
robert barnes
It's deep state power grab.
You know, Giuliani is someone deep state can deal with because he used to be part of them.
So even when he's going AOL and critical of them, they don't consider him a threat.
I mean, there's what, you know, a few thousand people who tune into Rudy's podcast.
God bless them.
Whereas Lindell has a big voice and a big audience, nowhere near your voice and your audience, but it's of the same path.
alex jones
No, it's big.
I'm not, I'm listening.
I wish it was bigger.
We need more big people.
Yeah.
robert barnes
So, no question.
I mean, the goal is to take out anybody that's consequential and adversarial to the deep state.
And they're still on that goal.
And this is supposed to have been completely reversed.
And it's not getting completely reverse.
I mean, take the Brooke Jackson case.
In December 1st, there's a hearing in the Fifth Circuit in Texas on what happened in that case.
And that's the Brooke Jackson.
It was the big whistleblower exposed.
Pfizer was out to kill everybody.
That basically the vaccine was not safe, was not effective, was not even a vaccine.
And instead, it was going to call mass deaths and mass disabilities, which we're seeing in data, whether it's Edward Dowd or anybody else.
It's people all in the space detailing it.
Dr. John Cullen, you name it.
Why range of people documenting this over and over and over and over.
And she detailed it.
And the government should be supporting it.
Instead, Bondi's Justice Department is defending it, is saying that vaccines are so holy, the Biden administration policy is correct.
alex jones
And Bond Kennedy banning fluoride in the water.
So here's what they need to know in their bubble in D.C. Because I'm on the street.
People are mad that I'm not more hardcore, whatever that means.
People are done.
So they've lost the public.
And I think they're fighting an uphill battle.
And I think as this dawns on them, it's going to be explosive, Robert Barnes.
Close your comment.
robert barnes
Yeah, no doubt about that.
I mean, it's what President Trump said in Pan Bondi's in the truth post that he meant to send as a DM, where he said, look, we're losing confidence of people.
People are saying that Trump did that at a personal event.
No, it wasn't.
Read the post.
Trump was saying, look, everybody is enraged and we're losing confidence in the American people because we're not cleaning up the justice system and not cleaning out the deep state and not deep sixing the deep state and draining the swamp.
And why is that happening?
It's because one of the swamp's key saboteurs is still in a key position of power at the Justice Department, and his name is Todd Blanche.
So send him on a vacation to some pretty place that he likes to stay at.
Elevate Harmik Dillon, elevate Ed Martin, elevate these people that we know have the capabilities, the competencies, and the courage to take on these corrupt rogue actors so our constitutional republic can be protected.
alex jones
We ought to support the dogs in the line.
Robert Barnes, God bless you.
Incredible job.
Barnes underscore law on X. Talk to you soon, brother.
robert barnes
Happy to see you, Alex.
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That's right.
Last week, he bragged when he got his medical exam that he got the new experimental flu shot and the Pfizer booster, which his own HHS had basically said don't give to pregnant women and women and adults and that they've proven a race as your immune system is absolutely horrible.
But after he had Albert Borla a few weeks ago at the White House praising Pfizer, he's now gone on and gotten it as a PR stunt.
So that really pissed off Trump's constituents.
And we hope he didn't really take it because we need the big guy.
tucker carlson
Well, yeah, and I think there's unless I'm misreading it, there seems like a legitimate and very large study out of South Korea that shows a connection between the COVID vaccine cancer because of the effects on the human immune system.
And turns it off.
When some cancers are opportunistic and a low immune system invites cancer.
I mean, that's why AIDS patients used to get Kaposi's sarcoma.
So I don't understand that.
Do you think it was real?
alex jones
If I had to speculate, not a conspiracy theory, pure speculation, Borla was there a few weeks ago.
He did that $75 million deal to lower drug costs, which is a good thing Trump got.
And they said, hey, we got some bad PR.
Why don't you say you took the shot?
But I'd have to purely speculate.
You talked to Trump a lot more than anybody else pretty much.
So maybe you can ask him why the hell he did that.
tucker carlson
Do you know anyone who has taken that?
I mean, who would take that?
I mean, it's poison.
I think there's obviously poison.
alex jones
I think there's 2% uptake on the boosters now.
And it's no longer recommended by HHS, which means it has no longer has liability protection.
So again, that is Trump who would say at the rallies, oh, take your shot.
They would boo him.
So he quit doing it.
And so it's things he does like that.
And then some Trump supporters think we're in a cult.
They go, you don't criticize anything Trump does know all the time we do.
Like when Bondi said, let's pass hate speech laws.
That's what the ADL wants, Southern Power Law Center.
People got pissed.
She reversed herself that day.
So, no, it's good for the constituents.
When we see something wrong, we put Trump in there to carry out our operations to restore the Republic, not to take experimental gene.
tucker carlson
But they're an attack.
I mean, I'm sure you've had times in your life where you've been off on some lunatic tangent and people you love, members of your family, are like, hey, we love you.
Don't certainly happen to me a million times.
People I love are like, I don't think it's a good idea, whatever you're doing.
And you're grateful for that, right?
alex jones
Well, that's absolutely so.
But if I smoke a cigar, a few, you know, here and there is a bad for you.
If you smoke a lot of them, you'll, you know, you might get lip cancer or something.
I'm not up there.
tucker carlson
I don't believe that.
alex jones
I'm not here saying, kids, you should smoke cigars.
You know, the difference is Trump is up there doing it.
So it's just another one of those things he does.
Like, oh, take all cruise missiles to Ukraine.
It makes you wonder what's going on sometimes.
I'm glad we don't have Kamala Harris.
Let's get that straight.
But I am a little concerned.
tucker carlson
What is going on?
alex jones
Well, everybody knows Trump's really weird in a good way, in a lovable way, but he does so much good.
And then he does so many just really bizarre zigs and zags that sometimes you just have to ask what's happening.
But, you know, that video over a year ago of him and Kennedy, right before Kennedy endorsed him a year and a half ago, that somebody shot of him on speakerphone, Kennedy with Trump.
And Trump's like, well, maybe it is too big a shot and maybe the kids shouldn't take it.
Maybe you're right, Meil Bobby.
That's the Trump we need, not the Trump.
Oh, look, I took my shot.
It's so great.
Plus, the flu shot, they admit, look this up.
They've never in 50 years of the flu shot predicted the right mutation for that year's flu.
And it lowers your immune system to the next year's flu.
tucker carlson
The flu shot paralyzed a relative of mine, a close relative of mine, briefly.
Paralyzed, waist down, paralyzed, period.
That a flu shot did that.
Fact.
alex jones
Paralyzed Kennedy's larynx.
tucker carlson
Yeah.
So I don't know why.
And is there any evidence the flu shot reduces overall mortality?
alex jones
You can look this up.
It has never worked.
It is an absolute total fraud.
They've never picked the right mutation for it.
And so if it's not the exact mutation, it doesn't work.
tucker carlson
So over, but over the population, there's no evidence that the flu shot, which you could get at your grocery store, the nurse's office or wherever at work, that it has reduced the number overall of dead people in the United States in a given year.
alex jones
No.
And to show as fraud statistics are, so who knows?
Remember the first year and a half of COVID, zero flu deaths, basically, which is normally about 30,000?
They took that number, said that wasn't, there was no flu death, but it all became COVID death.
tucker carlson
So, given how obviously discredited science has been in the last five years, where normal people are like, I don't know what this is, but I'm against it.
Wouldn't now be the time to mandate a total halt to any franken science underway where we're trying to create life or clone people or change the human genome.
alex jones
Gain a function.
tucker carlson
Gain a function, which is now like universal.
alex jones
That the American people have rejected big pharma and they're tired of it and they hate Albert Borla.
They hate Anthony Fauci.
We don't need to be seeing Albert Borla, who's just as hated as Fauci at the White House.
We need to see Fauci and Albert Borla indicted for the things they've done.
tucker carlson
Why not just strip immunity from the vaccine makers?
Wouldn't that, we have a system in place that's been in place for my whole life where if you're making a consumer product that hurts people, you can be sued.
And so people who make consumer products try to make them safe because there are consequences to selling poison.
alex jones
That's exactly what should be done.
And that's the 80s.
tucker carlson
But that's like simple.
That's super simple.
Like, why not?
It's only been 19.
I mean, I remember 1986 was 39 years ago.
It's not that hard.
This is not like in the constitution that vaccine makers have blanket shield immunity.
alex jones
And now they're calling gene therapies vaccines.
You know, they changed the definition.
So now anything they want to inject into you, they claim it's a vaccine with liability protection.
Well, that's why Kennedy removing the recommended status by HHS and FDA, when you do that, it technically removes the protection of the liability protection.
But then that's why suddenly now the Pfizer mRNA shots warns you that it can kill you.
Remember at first it was a blank piece of paper for the first time ever?
tucker carlson
Yeah.
alex jones
The first year of the rollout, they just said the name of the shot the company wouldn't tell you.
That piece of paper that comes with the shot container, you know, the ampule, blank.
But now it says a bunch of stuff can kill you.
Watch out.
It's up to you.
So instead of them pulling it from the market, when liability protection actually was taken, if you read the fine print, they just put in the fine print, it can kill you now, which also protects them.
tucker carlson
I knew that.
I know someone who was killed by it and his family couldn't sue.
Do you feel a rise in, do you feel like people are talking about God and spiritual matters more than they did 10 years ago?
I mean, clearly they are.
Where's that going?
alex jones
I saw you with a guest a few weeks ago talk about, this is well known.
I'll talk to everybody that's done it.
I haven't done it.
Almost everyone that takes DMT, either from the Toad or the ayahuasca plant, these creatures show up.
They look like court gestures or space aliens, different things, and say, there are too many humans.
You need to wipe out the population.
Then you'll become gods.
It's the same message.
And they've had groups of people.
They've done studies.
tucker carlson
You need to wipe out, you need to kill people so you can become God.
alex jones
Yes, you need to depopulate and you need to transcend.
tucker carlson
Do you know people who've heard that message?
alex jones
Oh, absolutely.
They've had whole groups and studies that have had group hallucinations of this.
tucker carlson
Can I, I mean, I don't know.
I'm not the most spiritually sensitive person.
I'm hardly a theologian, but if some demon is telling you to kill people so you can become God, like we can say that's bad, right?
alex jones
Absolutely.
And the people that then you're talking about tech heads who you know microdose and are big in hallucinations and big into hallucinogenics.
When they get more advanced and deep into it, and then most of them have talked about this, then the things start giving them more ideas and explaining the system they're going to build, the AI, the takeover, and this new species and how, again, you're going to transcend death.
And so we've all got to have a larger question there.
So they say the devil's greatest trick was convincing the world you didn't exist.
I think that's the second biggest trick.
I think convincing the world that good doesn't exist is the devil's biggest trick.
tucker carlson
Yes.
Yes.
Can you, can you flatter?
I think that I'm not exactly sure what you're saying, but I know that you're telling the truth right now.
myron gaines
Can you, can you?
alex jones
Well, convincing us that there isn't anybody good and that you don't have power and that it's all over and we are the board.
You will be assimilated.
The biggest trick is hopelessness when we're promoting truth and justice and honor.
And we can't just dial into demons and fallen angels.
We can also dial into God and get that message.
But you first have to recognize that good and evil exist.
tucker carlson
Yes.
alex jones
And once you recognize that we are ethereal beings, that we are just manifesting ourselves in the third dimension, that all these people that are even atheists have these near-death experiences that come back with the same message.
I mean, I personally in my life have had so many times where I'm literally told something and it comes true and it just comes from God.
And so I know this, I know this is real.
We are a lot more complex than just what our eyes and ears and taste and touch pick up.
And when you really actually study the globalist, none of them are atheists.
They're into the occult.
unidentified
Exactly.
alex jones
And they believe they're interfacing, even at skull and bones.
At Yale, they get in these coffins for days.
They try to get these spirits to come into them.
They try to channel these spirits.
You've got the heads of skull and bones there in the last few days, seeing who's able to interface with this.
These are real rituals that are part of activating parts of the mind so that people can see past the veil.
And again, they've now been able with robots and computers and wires in the brain, as Elon has talked about decades ago, this is already done.
Your eyes narrow the light spectrum because there's so much going on that if you saw the infrared and everything else, it'd be too confusing.
But now with hallucinogens and other things, they have been able to prove that people can actually see past the veil into basically other dimensions.
And so that's really what this is.
And we have to admit to ourselves that what we see and taste and touch and everything is a very small piece of actually what's going on.
And that's that wider world.
And people have to, once they understand that there is this wider battle going on, then you realize, oh my God, God's real.
I better choose God or I better choose the devil.
unidentified
Yes.
alex jones
And the kingdom of God is within us.
The new agers go, oh, you are God.
No, kingdom of God is within us.
We're made in God's image.
We have the potential to know God, to interface with God.
That's worship God.
And then through that, begin to transcend to a higher consciousness, interfacing with God, not God, but with God, and then part of God.
tucker carlson
And that, I do think that's the trick.
Because I mean, no one needs a tutorial on evil.
It's all around us.
It's super obvious.
It no longer disguises itself.
Abortion for the sake of abortion.
Like, what is that?
Well, it's, it's human sacrifice, just Canaanite.
alex jones
And the DNC doing abortions inside of the completely for the sake of abortion, not to improve the life of the girl or she's a 14-year-old rape victim.
tucker carlson
It's just like, no, abortion is inherently good because it's killing a person.
That is all out in the open now.
Nobody is confused about its existence.
What you don't get a lot of is the recognition that good is a more than equal.
It's a larger and opposing force.
God is bigger than Satan.
And you don't get that sense.
Like nobody talks about that.
You don't see it.
How do you find that?
alex jones
Where I feel the strongest demonic energy is in a lot of these big churches and a lot of these big things, because that's where the devil's sitting his forces.
And it's energetic.
And so, but Christ criticized the Pharisees, Sadducees, constantly said, you go pray up on the hill in front of everybody.
You talk about how perfect you are all day, but really, you're of your father, the devil, in the synagogue of Satan.
Or you call it black Sabbath or whatever.
And it happens in Christian churches, Hepstaeism, it happens everywhere.
And if you look at later Judaism, it's not just the Old Testament, the Torah.
There's over 30 other books that they say, you know, the rabbinical teachings are just as important.
And it runs the gamut from some sects that you can call very pious and close to God to others that are outright Satanism.
And you see that in the Christian denominations, all the things that call themselves Christian, you know, that really aren't.
Christ said, beware things, you know, call themselves of God, but are not, or the synagogue of Satan.
Well, there weren't Christian churches then.
The churches were synagogues, but it goes for synagogues, churches, anything that you've got to be really close to God and the Holy Spirit, lest you be deceived.
And so that's really where it all is.
And it comes down to your spiritual inclination.
But I just recommend the people personal relationship with God, praying to God, saying, I want to be good.
I want to recognize truth.
I want to know what truth is.
I want to open myself up to you.
I'm an imperfect.
I repent for what I've done.
I want you to cleanse me and then show me the truth and then show me how to be a better person.
And then show me after that what the mission is you have for me.
And literally, if you do that through a process, it may take days, may take months, may take years, then the adventure begins.
And then all of a sudden, you're being given like intel and stuff.
And like literally just, you have to learn to go with it.
It's never wrong.
And it's God.
tucker carlson
But don't you find that?
I know I have found that you see sparks of this in the most unlikely people.
If you put a list on paper of the people in your life, I won't ask you to say it out loud, but who you really trust or you talk to and you groove with them and they like know exactly what you're saying.
You know, they are on the same wavelength in some deep way.
It's not the people you would expect.
Have you ever noticed that?
alex jones
I mean, it's quite the quest because so many people are lost and really it's an inside job.
They've got to somehow open up the shamble to God and then they'll see everything that's happening and then God will give them a message and a mission of what they should do.
And I don't want to say all churches are bad because there's a lot of good people in the churches regardless.
It's just that the last 120 years, the Rockefeller Foundation, the ecumenical movement and all of that has really moved into the churches.
We see that with all the rainbow flags and all, you know, the famous cathedrals in England now festooned with all the leftists, you know, graffiti and garbage.
I mean, it's been captured is my point.
But people can't get turned off by that and say, well, God's dead.
No, no.
Satan has occupied the so-called temples.
tucker carlson
Do the last vestiges of the old civilization get erased and Christians start anew?
Like, what is this?
How does this unfold?
alex jones
I think, I mean, I think that's up to how God influences everybody.
I think we could, over time, retake those things, but the Satanist and the leftist, the power hungry, they think if they can take over the skin of something and occupy it, that they can fool people that are looking for God, but that's actually triggering the great awakening.
So I think some of the buildings get torn down.
Some of the buildings get retaken.
But at the end of the day, God's temple is without.
tucker carlson
It doesn't matter, does it?
alex jones
What does it matter?
tucker carlson
Do you get discouraged?
Do you ever think it's hopeless?
alex jones
No, because it's all in God's plan.
But I do get discouraged for individuals who kind of fall to evil.
You see good people that fight evil for a while, but they get put under pressure to get attacked.
They turn to the dark side.
tucker carlson
Boy, have I seen that.
alex jones
Because it gets them ahead for a little while and then you later see them destroyed.
tucker carlson
Yeah, always.
And their family's destroyed too.
alex jones
Yeah.
So, and I get tempted by evil.
You know, sometimes like a devil jumps into me.
And I mean, by that, I'm just busy.
I'm tired.
tucker carlson
I'm whatever.
alex jones
And I catch myself.
And I'm like, whoa, whoa.
For a minute, I was like, you know, turning into everything I'm trying to fight.
So I'm not up here on some high horse.
Like, you know, like, I've got all the answers and I'm perfect.
tucker carlson
It's sad.
And by the way, really good people fall for it.
Really good.
Some of my favorite and most decent people fall for it.
It's not, I'm not attacking anyone at all, but it's clearly not true.
And it leads them into, it leads them to defend like murder and stuff.
alex jones
While we're on theology, exactly.
While we're on theology, what do you think of Peter Thiel's whole Antichrist lecture?
tucker carlson
You know, I'm not, I haven't seen it.
I have talked to him about it at great length.
I didn't, I think it's really interesting.
I'm not, I didn't really get to the punchline on that.
I don't.
So the question everyone, you know, has is, okay, who's the Antichrist?
I think it's maybe there's more than one.
I don't know.
alex jones
System.
tucker carlson
Right.
So I would just say I'm not taking a pass on the question.
But I don't.
This is so far out of my depth.
I mean, I'm just sort of at the I'm for Jesus stage of things, but I'm glad that there's a conversation about it.
You know, I welcome all conversations about the transcendent because I think it's what matters.
alex jones
Well, exactly.
Because I mean, I love the a comedium, Tim Delham.
He's like, this guy's got all this cashless control grid or this.
And then he wants to know about the Antichrist.
Well, he grew up really Christian.
People don't know.
It'd be a Peter Till.
And then now he's wanting to have a debate about it.
I don't think the Antichrist wants you to have a debate about the Antichrist.
tucker carlson
I think that's probably right.
And just in general, it's worth talking about and reminding ourselves and others that this is just like a small piece of what's real.
We're just seeing a tiny fraction of reality, like the spiritual world, that realm is as real as the table we're sitting at.
And people lose sight of that.
I lose sight of that.
alex jones
Exactly.
So we should be having not just Peter Till, everybody, Donald Trump, you and I. We should be discussing Revelation, what's the scribe's really happening now?
tucker carlson
I think the temptation is to just ignore the whole topic.
I mean, that's the world that I grew up in where it was just never discussed.
alex jones
Devil doesn't exist.
It was just one.
tucker carlson
100%.
People's sex lives were a frequent topic of conversation.
Everyone was super liberal about that.
Like no one was embarrassed of anything except any question that transcended the material was just considered like death was considered totally off limits.
alex jones
All I know is, is that we should be having a discussion about the Antichrist.
I mean, we're having one already here.
And so what is the Antichrist?
I think you need to know the enemy.
I think you need to know.
tucker carlson
Well, one obvious hallmark from my frequent but very untutored reading of those books in the New Testament is that the Antichrist reserves the powers of God for himself.
He pretends to be God.
I'm all powerful.
I can, you know, worship me.
And by the way, that's most leaders in the world through all time, but that those are signs of evil.
You are not God.
No one can watch you.
No one can worship you.
And the shitty things you do on earth do not make you powerful.
They destroy you, actually.
And so that it's all described in Jesus' 40 days in the wilderness where Satan offers him these deals and he declines all of them.
But that's like the, whether you're a Christian or not, that is the template for life.
Oh, if I just do this, I'll win this election.
You know, I break some eggs to make the omelet.
No, dude, you're going to be destroyed for that.
alex jones
Well, look what Elon is starting to come up with.
tucker carlson
You want to make people upset?
Start talking about Jesus.
I just did this at Charlie Kirk's Memorial.
I did like some six-minute talk about Jesus, only Jesus.
That's it.
I was like, I said to my wife in the shower the morning, that morning, I was like, I'm not getting political at all.
I'm not going to attack anybody.
I just want to be as like unifying as I can and consistent with what Charlie really cared about as I can and what he really cared about.
alex jones
They call it anti-Semitic.
tucker carlson
It was insane, which was, of course, absurd, but leaving aside the absurdity, like the emotion was real.
alex jones
We need to have an open discussion about this because it's here.
And notice the left, they're all about total control of language where there's almost nothing discussed.
And so that's why they get so upset when these discussions start to happen.
And I just look at civilization and society.
We should be having a major front and center discussion about AI.
And that's what Elon Musk talks about, who's gone from not believing in God, saying we need God.
He's starting to come around to saying, listen, we're going to have AI.
Obviously, the genie's out of the bottle, but we don't want to centralize them.
We want a whole bunch of them.
We want a diversity of them.
And I think what is the answer to AI?
Because people say, oh, why are you for AI?
I'm not.
It's not going away.
What is the answer to AI if it's being rolled out?
And I know the globalists want to basically have one AI.
Elon's answers have distributed AI, non-centralized AI, but no matter what it is, it just turns bad.
tucker carlson
I know that a lot of the people developing AI are really, really bad, really, really bad.
Like the worst.
And what do I mean by bad?
Specifically, they think they're God.
And that's the core lie.
It's not like, how many people have you killed?
If you think you're God, you will kill people.
And the more power you have, the more you will kill.
alex jones
Big picture.
Let's just be completely honest about Trump.
It's a blessing to have him in office.
We're nine months in.
The Democrats are destroying themselves.
Lowest approval rating ever, lowest fundraising ever.
It's really up to us to lose this.
But we are starting to see some indictments of Comey and Lisa Chandershold.
A lot more coming.
The Democrats are now pledging resistance and violence.
And what's the quote?
Energetic uprisings or forceful uprisings.
Sorry, forceful uprisings.
Chuck Schumer, how do you see this unfolding?
And what can the general public do to try to save the country in a nonviolent way?
Because I mean, I just think Trump rhetorically needs to be out front explaining to people how dangerous things are and the crossroads instead of just saying, oh, liberals are dumb.
tucker carlson
From a governance perspective, the government, the people who are elected to run the government, need to make sure that the instruments of government are loyal to the Constitution and under control.
And that's the concern that I have is that especially older conservatives, whatever that is, Republicans, whatever that is, but non-leftists are living without dated understandings of like the military and the police.
And there are a lot of great people in the military.
I know a lot of them, and there are a lot of great cops.
We were just with one of them a second ago.
But there are also a lot of people with guns in official capacities who are really, really dangerous.
And you need to make sure those people are under control.
And by under control, I don't mean loyal to Donald Trump, the man.
I mean loyal to the Constitution.
alex jones
The leadership's been groomed, put to these globalist schools, brainwashed.
They're awful.
unidentified
They're awful.
alex jones
They're the worst.
And Trump finally knows that.
So going into this attempt at Civil War, the enlisted are great people, on average, the best, but people really have this vision of the military that's delusional.
tucker carlson
A lot of them are sociology professors with nuclear weapons.
I mean, they're scary.
And I know that just from living in D.C., I wouldn't know that if I hadn't spent my life in Washington, the Pentagon's right there.
The neighborhood I grew up in in Georgetown was, you know, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs lived like one house over from me.
They were just always circulating through because they all circulate through DC.
So I would have, you know, go to dinners or duck hunts or whatever.
You're with these people and you're like, wait, you're like stupid, totally incapable of like creative or independent thought.
alex jones
You think Trump finally knows that he thought the brass were these badass John Wayne guys are literally the enemy?
tucker carlson
Well, apparently everyone says that the chairman of the Joint Chiefs is like a really good, a good, solid American.
That's correct.
Dan Kane is a, is a great guy.
So, I mean, I think there are a lot of great people.
Caveat.
alex jones
There's still a few left.
tucker carlson
Yeah, there may be many left.
alex jones
Look at Flint.
There are many bad.
tucker carlson
Many bad, many bad.
And the left used the COVID vaccine to weed out the men, guys with testosterone and self-respect who were like, I'm not doing that.
I'm not going to poison myself.
And so they left.
And that was the point of the COVID vaccs was to get decent, to purge the men.
So it's all like betas and women who can be controlled and are sort of eager to worship false gods.
And you have those people with guns.
I don't know.
It's really scary what just happened under Biden.
And has it been corrected?
alex jones
And notice the alpha males back when Obama wanted to attack Syria and the Russians, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, then he goes, that's World War III, full war.
They had to back off.
So that was the tail end.
Now you have like weird guys that say they're women with bald heads stealing women's gowns at the airport over the nuclear stockpile.
And they're all like Sean Penn's on TV saying, why not have a nuclear war?
What's wrong with that?
tucker carlson
And it's self-hating men and bloodthirsty women.
alex jones
Oh, I love the liberal thing.
Once women are in charge, there'll be no more wars.
That's not what the studies show.
tucker carlson
Well, it's not what reality shows us.
Female leadership leads to violence.
alex jones
Why is that?
tucker carlson
It's true.
I don't know.
And as a great lover of women and the father of a number of women, and I'm not anti-women.
I mean, I like them more than men and anyone else.
alex jones
I love women, but it's true.
But I remember reading studies.
tucker carlson
Female leadership leads to violence and you see it.
And you see, who is, it was Governor Wallace's wife who opened the windows to drink the redland odor of riot.
Yeah, it's Winnie Mandela, man.
It's really, really, the Bolsheviks' wives were more bloodthirsty than they were.
I don't know exactly what that is.
I think weak male leadership incites something in women that's really dark.
alex jones
Well, they found in studies in total war, like women commit way more war crimes than men.
tucker carlson
Yes, there's something about female leadership that gets you very quickly to violence.
And you see it in the support for the Ukraine war, which is like the murder of an entire country's male population.
alex jones
And now, though, a bunch of European countries are doing female conscription.
I wonder if combat is going to get the women to not be for war.
tucker carlson
I wonder why you would even bother with a civilization if you're sending your women to fight wars.
I don't know if it's just give up at that point.
alex jones
Well, it's like Ursula van der you only have a military to protect your women.
tucker carlson
That's the point.
There's only one reason, and that's to protect my wife and my daughters.
And if it weren't for that, why would we need a military?
You see in modern female leadership, not all, but a lot of it.
Tulsi Gabbard is an incredible exception to this rule.
It's like a truly humane, decent person.
But man, you see a lot of counterexamples where these women just, they can't wait to kill.
alex jones
And I'm not sure because the system is selecting twisted women.
tucker carlson
It's probably right.
And it has something to do with men vacating their role.
alex jones
I agree.
Could you believe that Leticia James bitched and complained and said Trump has weaponized things against me?
It's kind of.
Yeah.
But that's the system I'm talking about.
tucker carlson
The entitlement level in this country has gotten very high.
alex jones
Well, that's not just hiding behind a woman, behind a black woman.
That's all they're doing.
It's totally transparent.
tucker carlson
Well, the most powerful people in our society consider themselves its greatest victims.
You always notice that.
alex jones
Like, I'm a victim.
tucker carlson
I need security at my house.
It's like, okay.
No, you're not a victim.
You're the perpetrator.
So let me, speaking of victims and perpetrators, you are the victim of the greatest crime against free speech in the last 10 years.
You were accused of saying things.
You say your remarks are misconstrued or misrepresented intentionally.
From my perspective, it doesn't matter what you said.
You didn't hurt anybody.
You didn't cheat anybody.
You didn't issue a fake stable coin.
You didn't carjack.
You gave an opinion.
And for that opinion, the U.S. government, through an FBI agent, has basically tried to destroy your life and are on the cusp of like taking your entire life away.
And so here's my question.
One, you know, how close are you to having everything taken from you?
And two, where's the Trump Justice Department in this?
I don't understand.
alex jones
This isn't about me.
This is about you and the end of judicial process in this country and the final phase of the weaponized judiciary because the Democrats haven't given up.
peter navarro
Just keep your mouth shut.
margot in florida
Oh, because you said you showed up.
unidentified
You voted.
margot in florida
You can extend it right now.
peter navarro
Permanent extension of massive tax break.
unidentified
Is that right?
peter navarro
90% of Americans take the standard deduction.
margot in florida
If you had your way, the standard deduction would have been cut in half.
peter navarro
That would have been a massive tax increase on Americans.
alex jones
Hakeem Jeffries, the Democratic Party and the rest of the deep state want you and I to shut up.
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This is a real shot across the bell.
For the censors, that is a big deal.
I mean, we're ahead of Disney.
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Takes years to do that with an app.
We've been number one before when they banned us in 2018.
That took five, six years to get to that.
Number one in 48 hours.
Incredible job.
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tucker carlson
First question, how close are they, and by they, I mean this constellation of law firms, NGOs, and federal law enforcement employees to taking everything from you and shutting you down, taking you off the air?
I know that's been in progress for a while.
You've outrun them, but I feel like you're getting toward the end.
And two, or B, where's the Trump Justice Department?
And why is this being allowed?
alex jones
So I was found guilty in Texas and in Connecticut by Democrat judges, literal anti-Vasoros judges, of not giving discovery, which wasn't true.
So then I'm found guilty.
Then they have a show trial.
So then they have the show trial.
They get a billion and a half dollar judgment.
They do all this.
Then they don't want to settle.
I said, here, have all the money I'll make in the next 10 years, which was more than I ever made in 10 years, $75 million.
They said, we don't want that.
We want you off the air in press conferences, on national TV, in court filings.
We're not supposed to just take some money off the air.
You're supposed to be able to get your judgment.
Plus, it's all an appeal.
So last Tuesday, they had the state receiver in my offices looking at everything, saying, we'll probably shut you down in about a month.
They're waiting for the state court that we have it on appeal to lift the stake.
tucker carlson
And this is because all because you gave an opinion.
I just want to be clear.
You didn't do anything.
You had an opinion, which you say they mischaracterized.
But again, I would say, even if they didn't mischaracterize it, you're entitled by birth as an American to have any freaking opinion you want.
alex jones
Well, to be clear, the internet years after Sandy Hook had viral videos and professors say they didn't think it happened.
They put debit as 22 minutes in the show trials of me questioning and having debates with people.
tucker carlson
You're allowed to question anything you want.
You're allowed to have any opinion you want.
This is the United States of America.
alex jones
Well, it's like the Charlie Kirk thing.
I believe Charlie Kirk's dead.
I think the official story is probably true.
There's questions, but people are saying he didn't die.
There's people saying this and that.
I don't think it's true.
But the point is, they have a right to do that as Americans.
tucker carlson
You have a right to any opinion you want, period.
alex jones
So they have the show trials.
They do it.
They want me off the air.
Then I go into bankruptcy because I don't have any money three years ago.
They use the bankruptcy.
They assign the Justice Department, which they can do.
They have a special office to my bankruptcy.
They use Infowars money in the account to do four investigations to find fraud.
They find no fraud.
They sue my parents.
They do it all.
tucker carlson
They use your money to sue your parents?
alex jones
Yes.
Then the judge, Lopez, in Houston, federal judge, he says, I want this to be sold at auction a year and a half ago.
Cash auction up front.
Here's the rules.
They do an auction, say it's a cash auction, cancel it, and then sell it to the onion basically for no money, funded by Michael Bloomberg.
The judge last November says it's a fraud, has hearings, shuts it down.
They also said armed security and without court orders tried to shut us down in May of last year.
So all this goes on.
All this happens.
We learn the Justice Department from documents was under Biden was funding the lawsuits, running all of it.
We get those documents.
The new Justice Department learns about it, Ed Martin, and says our job is weaponization.
We know we have the documents.
The Justice Department previously did this, that the FBI admitted in court that they ran this, created the lawsuits, William Aldenberg, the chief counsel of Connecticut at the time.
And we're going to send a letter and ask them to preserve their documents.
We're going to talk to them.
That was about a month ago.
And I showed you the letter and the other letters that are out there.
tucker carlson
So Ed Martin, who's a great guy, he's been in this room.
Ed Martin is in charge of undoing the weaponization of government, which is to say the agency is being used for political ends to destroy people who get in the way of the Democratic Party.
And his job is to undo some of the and I'm one of the more famous cases.
alex jones
The White House, right when they got in eight months ago, gave me classified documents that Obama targeted me for National Security 2013 with Comey.
We had other documents come out.
They didn't find anything in a 10-year investigation.
So they moved on to do the Sandy Hook thing as a big production with the FBI.
The Justice Department illegally funded it.
We have all those documents.
And so just like Mike Lindell two days ago, the SmartMaddock suit, the judge finds him guilty and it's now going to seize his company and shut him down without a jury trial.
So it's the same thing.
Again, this is their model.
tucker carlson
And what did Mike Lindell do wrong?
alex jones
He questioned the 2020 election and he's been vindicated.
So they get to take his company away for that, including the including firing all his employees because they don't want money.
tucker carlson
So, so then, and this is happening right now?
alex jones
Stepping right to yeah, right now.
And so the bigger question is: so here's what happened.
So, so Martin says, no, this is weaponization.
You have all the documents.
We have more documents.
We want to investigate this.
So I go a month and a half ago, meet in D.C., do all this.
They get the letter and other community case.
It's this Koskov-Koskov Democrat Senator Blumenthal law firm, basically a Bloomberg law firm in Connecticut.
They flip out and say, oh, Jones is harassing a hero FBI agent.
Never said his name, never criticized him.
He won $130 million defamation suit against me in the Sandy Hook defamation that he created, though no one ever said his name.
He's been on the stand.
No one in your office.
You never said, I didn't know who he was till he sued me.
So he goes and creates the suit, organizes the families with the NGOs, does all this.
And then I, and then I talked to the DOJ.
They sent a letter, say, preserve your records.
I showed you the ABC news headline.
And then Todd Blanche, the deputy AG, calls up in the news, chews out Ed Martin, says, in this investigation and pull this.
And so.
tucker carlson
Wait, wait, why?
alex jones
I mean, will Todd Blanche let them shut down my pillow?
Will Todd Blanch let them do all this?
Because they go, oh, Alex Jones was mean to dead kids' families.
tucker carlson
The Constitution of the United States, the country we live in, you're allowed to have any opinion you want.
mike benz
Okay.
alex jones
I agree.
tucker carlson
We're making a political point.
And the job of the government is to defend that right.
That's the point of the Department of Justice.
Defend that right.
So I'm totally confused here.
So you're saying that one of the top guys at DOJ, Todd Blanch, whom I've talked to before, I don't know much about Todd Blanche, but you're saying that he stopped Ed Martin.
alex jones
They say people peed on kids' graves.
People harassed their houses.
And then in court, when did it happen?
I don't know.
Somebody told me who.
I don't know.
tucker carlson
Did you pee on someone's grave?
alex jones
No one.
I've never been to Connecticut until they brought me there for trial.
No, none of that happened.
But the point is, I'm this guy.
People don't know that Adam Lanza killed the kids.
His mom bought a Bushmaster.
tucker carlson
But just again, it doesn't even matter.
Like, it's such a sad, horrible story.
alex jones
Well, they just put me in the place of.
tucker carlson
But you've got nothing to do with it.
You shared an opinion about a tragedy.
People can disagree with your opinion.
They can dislike your opinion.
They can't destroy you for your opinion because it's America.
And the Department of Justice exists to protect that right.
So I don't really get this.
So Todd Blanche, I'm taking your word on this.
I haven't heard this before.
You're saying, is he a career guy, Todd Blanche?
alex jones
Well, he was a Democrat until Trump won the election.
tucker carlson
Is he an appointee?
alex jones
Yeah, he's the deputy AG.
tucker carlson
And so you're confident that he shut down any attempt.
alex jones
Oh, he bragged.
Just type in Todd Blanche, Alex Jones, Ed Martin.
He went on the news and said, this is terrible.
I'm killing this investigation.
Why was it terrible?
It's a hero FBI agent.
tucker carlson
Because you're bad.
You offended some FBI agent.
Therefore, you should be disposed to.
alex jones
I never even knew who he was till he sued me.
tucker carlson
He's allowed to not like FBI agents.
You're allowed to have any opinion you want.
This is like the craziest thing about it.
alex jones
Well, William Aldenberg said on the stand, he went and created the lawsuits, which violates a whole bunch of laws.
That's what Ed Martin put in his letter was that you can't, as a sitting agent, go and create a case for yourself.
It's an emolument issue.
So here's where we are.
They say the new model is sue you for defamation, have a Democrat judge find you guilty by default, then do this.
Then they don't accept a settlement, then they shut you down.
So the answer is, how long will we be there?
They want the name InfoWars, The Onion, this former MSNBC censorship czar, he had the same job as Brian Stelter at CNN.
He has said recently in an interview with Wired magazine: if I was God, I want Infowars.
And so they think now they're going to seize the assets in the state.
They're going to hand it to them.
He says they're going to use our logos.
He says he's going to pose as Charlie Kirk as well, put out fake quotes of Charlie.
Look this up.
And their new thing is to have my website and use it to attack Charlie Kirk.
tucker carlson
Can I?
unidentified
Okay.
tucker carlson
So this is just totally grotesque.
And this is not the free market at work.
This is NGOs plus law firms plus the U.S. government destroying a private citizen for opposing the political agenda of the people in charge.
So this is like exactly what you can't have in your country.
alex jones
And they brag they're doing it because of that.
tucker carlson
Of course.
Well, there's no other.
There's no.
alex jones
I mean, they say we want you off the air.
tucker carlson
Could the current Department of Justice shut this down?
alex jones
Yes.
The DOJ's Office of Bankruptcy already had one U.S. trustee fired the next, caught in a fake auction.
My lawyers have filed lawsuits.
It's cut and dry illegal, bankruptcy fraud.
So and those that information went on as well.
So they know that.
And Todd Blanche is protecting the FBI and DOJ under orders from Obama, then Biden to get me off the air.
And we have all the documents where they funded it illegally.
We have all the proof.
We sued them.
We deposed them.
I spent millions deposing them all, getting all their emails, top law firms.
And then we, and then the Justice Department gets the information, and Ed Martin goes after him and says, preserve your records.
I want to talk to you.
And then Todd Blanche comes in and says, I'll fire you, Ed Martin.
Shut the son of a bitch down right now.
Ed Martin needs to be the deputy attorney general.
And he didn't say that.
Okay, I have other DOJ sources that tell me what goes on.
tucker carlson
I don't think you should use government to make your friends rich or give them special favors.
But if you can't deliver justice to people who are on your side, you know, you're not doing it right.
And that's really dispiriting and a little weird to be.
alex jones
Well, here's what's going to happen.
They just defaulted Lindell two days ago, and they're going to shut down his factory and his thousands of employees.
jacob soboroff
Are you serious?
alex jones
Yeah.
He doesn't get a trial.
The judge in Minnesota found him guilty, and they said it's the Alex Jones model.
So now the new thing, I'll bring you in this because it happened.
When they defaulted me four years ago before the show trial, they said next is Tucker Carlson.
So what they do is they pick a judge, they pick a fake story, they run headlines.
You said something you didn't do.
Like Trump, I love the KKK.
They're very fine people.
He said they're not fine people.
And then they sue, and then a judge finds you guilty.
Then the judge controls limited information, has a jury trial for the press, but only on the issues they allow of you're already guilty.
They instruct the jury.
Imagine I'm in Connecticut, Texas, two trials, and it's both the same, produced by HBOs, their cameras.
The judge goes, Mr. Jones is already guilty of everything they say he did.
He can opt on defense.
You will decide how much money he stole from these people and you will give it to them.
And they instruct them he is guilty.
And you're sitting there, the opposite of the American system, watching it.
And now they just did Mike Lindell.
And so will Trump sit there?
Because Todd Blanche kisses his ass, this little Democrat snake, and crucify Mike Lindell and crucify his thousands of employees in Minnesota?
unidentified
Probably.
alex jones
I'm not mad at Trump.
I know you're busy, Trump.
It's okay.
But if you think, oh, this law firm, Paul Weiss, that's been running the bankruptcy attacks on us, agreed to pay $40 million in restitution, agreed to illegal lawfare against Trump and his family and his supporters.
And they promised when Boris Epstein got the deal for him six months ago to never target any of his supporters again.
They wrote off part of their $40 million community service bill and suing me.
tucker carlson
You really have to clean up the justice system or else you can't have a country.
I mean, this is just like absolutely crazy.
That I think that is why people voted for Trump.
It's why I campaigned for him.
You have to have justice in your country.
alex jones
Tucker, I agree.
More than an economy, more than stopping war.
tucker carlson
I agree.
alex jones
My listeners want indictments.
And finally, Comey, Letitesa James.
tucker carlson
Indictments of the guilty, not indictments of people you don't like, not indictments, people who pissed you off or who's cut and dry.
alex jones
They did it.
tucker carlson
They're people who committed crimes and who have escaped justice because of their political connections.
That can't continue.
alex jones
Well, they started it, Tucker.
tucker carlson
Oh, I know.
alex jones
I'm a tough guy.
I can handle all this.
We'll continue on.
People can follow me on exit real off shows.
We've got the AGN network set up with sponsors.
The point is, is that they said this is a model for everybody else.
Then two days ago, Mike Lindell, oh, sorry, Mike.
You don't get a jury trial.
You're guilty.
Now we're going to instruct a jury how you're guilty.
So this is their model.
Defaults are only like if you're sued and then you run and leave the country.
They still got to have a trial, but they are literally declaring me guilty.
And then you've got Todd Blanch, who from all of my sources, I mean, he's a hardcore Democrat, Southern District of New York operative.
He was Trump's criminal lawyer, lost those cases for Trump.
And this is that weird Trump blind spot.
So, hey, Trump, I get it.
If you think cutting me loose and Mike Lindell, that's fine.
I'm a big boy.
I've defended you like nothing else.
That's fine.
If you think Todd Blanche, you know, who you got meeting with Gislane Maxwell and all this other weirdness, if you think that snake is the answer for you, then you bet everything on that.
But as for me, I just know the truth.
And the Democrats literally are caught red-handed in their persecution of me and Infowars and Mike Lindell.
And so it's up to you to make the right move here.
tucker carlson
I mean, Mike Lindell blew his life up on Trump's behalf.
I mean, that's why we're here is because Mike Lindell loved Trump.
And whatever you think of Mike Lindell, he's a very nice man, I think.
But even if you hate Mike Lindell, just objectively, Mike Lindell was a pretty successful pillow salesman and got his life together, got off drugs, you know, became a Christian.
And then he decided he really loved Trump and he thought Trump was being wronged and they stole the election from Trump.
He really believed that.
And now they're destroying him.
And I just feel like if there's ever someone you need to defend, it's Mike Lindell.
Are you kidding?
alex jones
So you're going to let them shut down my pillow.
You're going to let them shut down Infowars.
It's not me.
I understand Trump's got bigger fishing fry, but my listeners are enraged by this.
They are like, why are you still supporting Trump?
Because it's not Kamala Harris.
We're getting more done.
But if Trump doesn't understand, if he can't support his supporters, I don't know what he can do.
And I'll go back to Todd Blanche.
Todd Blanche has been a die in the wool top Democrat.
He lost all the cases for Trump criminally.
And from what I've heard, Bondi's not bad.
She's just lazy.
Bongino's emotional and a big baby.
You know, Patel is compromised.
And it's just so sad.
He should have Kim Paxton in there.
They brought in the Missouri AG as the new deputy FBI to get, you know, as soon as Bongino leaves.
And Bongino should stop worrying about his PR and how he looks and worry more about the future of the country here and put it all on the line, actually, instead of being a hothead.
Bongino thinks he's a good guy, but Patel and Bondi, these are just TV heads.
These are just people that are here to be celebrities in my view.
And I'm just saying, and Todd Blanche is a Democrat Party operative who I think he's Bill Barr 2.0.
You know, they got another Veritas investigation where they have Bill Barr, former CIA deputy, AG twice, literally with Fannie Willis setting up the indictments in Virginia.
I mean, in Georgia.
I mean, like, so is Todd Blanche Bill Barr 2.0?
That's the question Trump should be asking.
It's bigger than me.
tucker carlson
I don't think it's bigger than you.
I don't think anything is bigger than the individual.
I think that is the Christian message.
What matters is the individual, the human soul, the person, each one made in God's image.
And whenever you hear people say, well, it's bigger than just one person, that's bullshit, actually.
Nothing is bigger than just one person.
alex jones
No, I agree with you.
I'm saying.
tucker carlson
Injustice done to you is a total outrage to the entire world.
And by the way, you're not the only victim.
If that's what you're saying, I'm hardly the only victim.
alex jones
No, that's what I meant, though.
tucker carlson
That's for sure.
But I think it's so important to make sure, to the extent you can, with the power that you have in this life, to make sure that justice is done for the individual.
Like, I really think that's that is Western civilization.
By the way, the Eastern view, which is now very common in our country, deals only with groups and populations and the herd or the tribe.
That's why they believe in collective punishment.
But the Christian view is no, it's the individual and each person matters.
The hair on your head is numbered by God.
So I just feel like we can't allow a single injustice to pass by if we can fix it.
alex jones
No, I totally, to be clear, I totally agree with you.
My point was, I know Trump has bigger fish.
tucker carlson
No, I get it.
Well, that's true.
alex jones
But it doesn't because everything they're doing is about, oh, this media paid a thing to say they're wrong.
They're laughing at him.
They still have their power structure in place.
Oh, ABC paid a fine.
They paid a fine.
Paul Weiss paid a fine.
And they're still attacking your most ardent supporters to shut you down.
And so that's all I'm trying to say is that is that will Trump let Mike Lindell get shut down?
Will he allow this all because the deputy AG that really runs everything is really a big leftist and thinks he's smarter than all of us.
And it's just so disgusting because we have them cut and dry.
They're like, well, sir, he peed on Graves.
No one peed on Graves.
No one did any of this stuff they say.
Trump never said the KKK are fine people.
That was all a lie.
And so if you give it to their propaganda, they win.
Support your supporters.
Stand up for them.
You know, I saw Barron put out a whole list of vaccine bad reactions to the COVID shot after his dad took a shot.
That's going to be the real rebellion here is people around Trump, because he's 79 years old.
He's not a bad guy, great guy.
Telling the truth.
All of us can't be an occult.
When Trump is wrong, we got to call it out.
But yeah, I mean, I'm here and I've seen this injustice.
And I was literally going to say when I came here several weeks ago, I couldn't come a week ago because they had a receiver there at the office that day.
I was supposed to come, literally looking at everything about to shut down.
And I just had to say to people that if they do this to me, they'll do it to you.
And then Mike Lindell defaulted.
No jury trial found guilty by a judge.
All of you are in danger, folks.
This is so real.
And if Trump doesn't defend Lindell or me, whatever.
I mean, I just hope Trump, when he's out in three years, remembers that Todd Blanche is Bill Bar 2.0.
And if you think that little sneaky lawyer is your friend, you're a fool.
So I think Todd Blanch should be removed, not because of me, but because everybody I talk to, he is literally there working against the president.
He's the one telling the U.S. attorneys, don't do these prosecutions.
And then Trump gets pissed and says, do it.
They do it.
So Trump, you did it with Sessions.
You did it with Bill Barr.
Why are you doing it with Blanche right now?
It's just, please, I don't understand this blind spot of Trump.
tucker carlson
I've never heard any of this before, but that's why I'm a fan of yours because I always learn a lot.
Godspeed, Alex Jones.
Truly, thank you.
alex jones
Tucker, love you, brother.
tucker carlson
Great to see you, man.
unidentified
Thank you.
alex jones
This is an emergency transmission from deep in the heart of Texas, the U.S. resistance against a global corporate combine, empowered and funded by Communist China, allied with the big mega banks that set up communist China in 1949.
The Communist Chinese have taken control of U.S. telecommunications infrastructure.
The Communist Chinese are taking control of Hollywood.
The Communist Chinese are taking control of the main universities.
This is all confirmed.
This is not a drill.
Big tech in Silicon Valley is almost completely run by the communist Chinese government.
They've officially become state-run.
Apple, 100%.
Google is now making the transition and announcing a merger and total worldwide censorship.
They are now beta testing, using me as the straw man, a demonized version of Alex Jones to do that.
This is happening.
This is not like the other probes before that were meant to get you used to probes and censorship, thinking you would adapt to censorship by just putting up with it.
Now, this attack is thousands and thousands and thousands of times the magnitude of all previous attacks.
This is a tide-traded dose, reverse psychological warfare operation using adapt and overcome subversion paradigm manipulation.
In layman's terms, they are manipulating the fact that we adapt to being oppressed.
We adapt to being oppressed with the low dosages of oppression.
Now, when the megaton hits us of the total takeover, we try to adapt to the poison infusion instead of not knowing it's a lethal dose if we accept the dose.
Total Internet of Things Integration Global Socials Corps complete command and control system.
It is the virtual reality AI weapon system now attacking the United States with traitors inside the major security agencies blocking Trump's resistance of the program and attempting to stop us from removing the tentacles of the THICOM slash big tech banking combine emergency situation.
I have been chosen for destruction because I brought you this information and have been battering, ramming it out as much as I can.
They want to double use me as they always do in any complex system of mathematical deception where every angle of my good is turned against us.
So they take what I've said, being sincere, build me into an insincere person in the straw man.
I'm a person that cares about life and children and is against these wars.
And so they make me a herder of children.
And then they build me into this lie to then set the distraction while they're actually censoring all of you to make a debate about Alex Jones.
So even if I didn't sell out to them, they now use me as an archetype to serve them by being the main distraction.
unidentified
I have now been captured by the enemy in the information warfare fulcrum and is being used against you.
Totally your full understanding of this key will break you free from this paradigm.
alex jones
I have given you the transmission.
unidentified
Now break free.
I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.
alex jones
Thomas Jefferson.
unidentified
If you are receiving this transmission, you are the resistance.
alex jones
We are unified by our spirit that God made and our connection to the creator of the universe and our children.
And this is the genesis point of the new revolution of information.
tucker carlson
I will always believe and I will always say in public that Alex Jones is the most extraordinary person I've ever met.
joe rogan
I'll tell you, that fucking guy is right about a lot of shit.
candace owens
Alex Jones has been right a lot of times.
michael flynn
Alex has been right on for over a decade.
megyn kelly
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unidentified
It's crazy.
alex jones
The real war is here with the Globalists and Soros and Obama and the New World Order and BlackRock.
They have declared war on us and we accept the challenge.
unidentified
We're taking the capital back.
AlexJones.network is tomorrow's news today.
alex jones
You're not going to talk to me.
hakeem jeffries
You're not going to talk to me.
I'm not non-New York residents because you don't want to hear what I have to say.
Oh, and listen, why don't you just keep your mouth shut?
alex jones
I've been on air for 31 years, but 28 years ago, I launched InfoWars and it's changed the world thanks to all of your support of the operation.
People like Hakeem Jeffries want us to shut up.
unidentified
Can you like, shut up?
alex jones
That's what all their lawfare, all their lawsuits, all their attacks have been about.
And they're passing anti-free speech laws in Canada, the UK, Europe.
They're arresting people for even criticizing the government.
And they're trying to bring that here.
And that's why it's so important to try to keep InfoWars on the air.
But regardless, you'll easily be taking off very, very soon.
We're going to continue on in the fight.
But going forward, we'll no longer be called InfoWars.
That's why it's so important now, which could be your last chance, to get all of the great shirts, ball caps, hoodies, sweaters, you name it, that have InfoWars on it.
The classic designs and some of the new designs.
That's why we're launching the InfoWars Veteran Edition or veterans of the InfoWar.
All of you that supported the InfoWar, you are the InfoWar.
You are the modern Paul Reveers.
You're the reason we're having this massive success here in the United States and around the world.
You're the reason the globalists are desperate and admit their entire system is collapsing down around them.
We're winning major battles, but we've not yet won the main war.
And I have been proud to fight with you over these decades.
I am so blessed and satisfied by the incredible effect we've all had together.
So to celebrate 28 years of the InfoWar, 1997 to 2025, which could be the end of this incarnation of it.
And I hope we go on.
And regardless, the InfoWar never dies.
It belongs to the people.
It's the term for information warfare.
They use lies.
We use truth.
But the URL and this building and all of that goes away.
And it's like rocket engines, boosters falling off as the main craft goes into escape velocity in orbit.
As John Paul Jones famously said, the founder of the U.S. Navy, I have not yet begun to fight.
But it is important to get original InfoWars gear while you still can.
All the classic designs and the new Veterans of the InfoWar designs that are limited edition and help keep this operation on the air and fund the new Alex Jones network that's being built.
You've already seen some of the studios, the great work the crew's been doing, but it's much more expansive than what you've seen, and that'll be revealed very, very soon.
And that's thanks to all of your support.
So, when you go to the alexjonstore.com, you will have access to the widest selection, over 500 designs of Patriot t-shirts, ball caps, hoodies, sweaters, you name it.
And all of the t-shirts are 1997 in honor of the year that I launched Infowars.com itself.
So, again, thank you all for your support.
And there's more.
anthony fauci
But wait, there's more.
alex jones
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That's promo code Hakeem.
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peter navarro
Oh, I'm listening.
Just keep your mouth shut.
alex jones
Hakeem Jeffries hopes you shut up.
Hakeem Jeffries hopes you don't help keep us on the air because then he can continue this tyrannical activity.
That's why it's a revolutionary act when you support this operation and wear the Patriot apparel available right now at thealixjonstore.com, celebrating 28 years of the InfoWar.
Thanks for keeping us on the air.
And Hakeem, we've just begun to fight.
We're not going to shut up.
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