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Oct. 15, 2025 - Alex Jones Show
03:48:11
FULL WEDNESDAY BROADCAST: Top Legal Analysts Warn SCOTUS Ruling Establishes Judicial Dictatorship Over America! PLUS, Democrat Leaders Openly Launch Civil War Plan To Drive Trump From Power As Blue States Begin Succession, LA County Declares Emergency To Protect Illegals, And Top Dems Call For Military To Stage Coup Against Trump! THIS IS MUST-WATCH/SHARE INFO! — FULL SHOW 10/15/25

Alex Jones and guests dissect a alleged Democrat "Podesta Plan" for a 2025 coup, claiming Chuck Schumer and Gavin Newsom orchestrate state secession to protect migrants while the Supreme Court enables judicial tyranny via default judgments against Jones and Mike Lindell. They assert Todd Blanche weaponized the legal system to suppress free speech, citing $1.5 billion damages and $2.75 trillion demands as evidence of a deep state conspiracy involving globalists like Soros. Ultimately, the broadcast frames these legal battles as a civil war precursor requiring financial support for their network to resist perceived totalitarian control. [Automatically generated summary]

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Participants
Main
alex jones
infowars 02:10:52
r
robert barnes
27:01
tucker carlson
dailycaller 17:55
viva frei
23:44
Appearances
a
andrew kolvet
tpusa 00:33
anthony fauci
00:35
c
chase hughes
00:43
harrison smith
infowars 01:45
j
jacob soboroff
msnow 01:40
mike benz
00:58
rob dew
infowars 01:27
scott bessent
admin 02:57
Clips
c
camryn kinsey
00:12
chuck schumer
sen/d 00:19
hakeem jeffries
rep/d 00:08
joe rogan
00:07
judge andrew napolitano
00:09
kirk elliott
infowars 00:01
megyn kelly
00:02
michael flynn
r 00:02
myron gaines
00:15
nicolle wallace
msnow 00:27
o
oliver anthony
00:02
patrick m byrne
00:04
roseanne barr
00:04
stephen miller
admin 00:24
stewart rhodes
00:09
Callers
barton in georgia
callers 00:07
chris-3 in florida
callers 00:14
jay in pennsylvania
callers 00:16
lauren in south carolina
callers 00:12
margot in florida
callers 02:31

Speaker Time Text
Members Military Deployment 00:07:46
judge andrew napolitano
The government fears Alex Jones, who has the largest audience in the country, bigger than any of the networks, the biggest megaphone in the country.
unidentified
The deep state hates Alex Jones with a vengeance.
tucker carlson
Alex Jones is the most extraordinary person I've ever met.
jacob soboroff
About how it's not just the pro-immigration folks that are in the streets now.
It's the pro-democracy people.
But I think the three of us, if I should have talked about this before, if I'm not mistaken, I think members of the military, if they haven't already, may very well soon start to turn on this administration because of the way that they're being deployed to the streets.
It's not just the Baronco children of Marciso Barranco, the Marines whose father was beaten by ICE as he was cutting bushes at IHOP in Santa Ana, California, but it's the people from all of these communities from which maybe even Texas they are deployed and being asked to stand face to face with people who come from communities just like their own, asked to enforce the law in a way that they would overseas or in a combat zone with people from American communities.
I can tell you firsthand that members of the National Guard that I've talked to are deeply uncomfortable about having to participate in a mission like this.
And we're not talking about a small constituency.
We're talking about the members themselves.
We're talking about their families who, if you don't think they're talking to their families about this, you know, you're wrong, I can tell you firsthand.
I think that there are more constituencies yet to turn on this administration for the way that they're using the military in the streets, not just for immigration enforcement, but in the context of this democracy.
nicolle wallace
Well, and that's, you know, John Kelly's final warning before the election to America was that what he wanted to do and was blocked by people like Kelly and Madison Mille was to put the military on the streets.
And the reason it's bad, it's bad for a whole bunch of reasons.
It's bad for Americans on the street who shouldn't be policed by our own military, but it's ultimately the worst for the members of the military who in a natural disaster show up to help and in a time of war, you know, go far away to fight.
jacob soboroff
The question I would ask, if I was Donald Trump's opponent, is do you really want a demoralized National Guard all in 50 states across the Union because they're waiting to be deployed to hold long rifles up against their neighbors in between ICE detention centers and protests on the street?
That is something for everybody, I think, who's joining the military today, 17, 18, 19 years old, to think about that they may be deployed for that purpose rather than the one that they think is a noble calling to stand in defense of this nation abroad.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, it is Wednesday, October 15th, 2025.
I'm your host, Alex Jones, and there's no doubt that they've launched the Podesta Plan.
They are implying the legal lawful activities of the executive branch using the military in areas that are lawless and out of control, the Democrat-run uprisings to aid federal officers in doing their jobs.
And they're branding it as total tyranny and just absolute, total, and complete evil, as we knew they would do, because in the Podesta Plan, they said that's what they would do.
And then the last ingredient is going to be staged false flags on these communities to be blamed on President Trump, then the country burns down.
Let's put the full live show headline on screen so we can lay this out for folks here today.
Then there's a lot of other information we're going to be covering.
Wednesday live, blue states begin secession.
LA County declares emergency to protect illegals.
Top Dems call for military to stage coup against Trump.
The second civil war has begun.
This is an emergency must-watch share broadcast.
Now, that doesn't mean that they're going to be successful.
But they are certainly trying it.
And this is a time of maximum danger.
They're also getting ready to stage big false flags on Russia.
Wait till you hear this.
The British government claims Russia is going to attack London with drones with no evidence.
It is Wednesday, October 15th, 2025.
I am your host, Alex Jones.
There's your headline up at Infowars.com.
Blue States begins secession, carrying out the Podesta Plan.
LA County declares emergency to protect illegal aliens.
Top Dems call for military to stage coup against Trump.
The Second American Civil War has begun.
This is an emergency.
Must watch, share, broadcast live feeds on Rumble at the Alex Jones Network channel, as well as real Alex Jones on X, Infowars.com forward slash show for now, though we are very close to that being shut down.
As you just saw, the Supreme Court refusing to hear the case after it got to the full judge as it made it past the first two layers of lawyers.
It said, Yeah, this is, you need to see this.
And they said, Nope, looking at it and not responding.
When we had the greatest case, I mean, mainline top lawyers, you've seen them all the news, talk about it.
The literal most kangaroo, insane-rigged trials where I was already guilty and all of it conducted and produced by HBO that anyone's ever seen.
I mean, it's even worse than the stuff they pulled on Trump.
And they just did it to Mike Lindell.
Judge just found him guilty, defaulting him, $1.5 billion.
And I guess the Supreme Court won't hear that and say, hey, just go ahead and selectively destroy whoever you want.
That's tyranny.
But you know what?
The numbers meant to be so big to sound big.
I've never had $10 million in the bank.
So it might as well be $85 trillion.
I shouldn't joke.
They asked for $2.76 trillion.
$276 trillion.
I'm sorry.
It doesn't even sound real.
Yeah, they asked in the case.
He said, Your Honor, we've like $276 trillion.
Or was it $2.76?
I can't remember anymore.
You know, these numbers are so big.
It's just bonkertown.
But it's the great and mighty Oz there to intimidate you and try to blast you into submission.
Yeah, it's $2.75 trillion.
Excuse me.
When the numbers get that big, you can't blame you for it all just kind of swirling around.
The GDP of India every year, 2.75 trillion.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Let me tell you what we got on the plate here.
You know, we got lots of interesting videos, Charlie Kirk's wife being honored at the White House.
And we've got Trump again saying that, no, I don't think he'll make it into heaven.
And we've got, you know, all sorts of crazy leftists doing nutty things.
It's all very entertaining, all very interesting, all very thought-provoking and important.
But the Democrat Party, funded by the globalists, have a plan for civil war in America.
And the plan has not been going well.
Blue State Secession Begins 00:05:34
alex jones
And this Saturday, they're launching their no-king/slash antifa uprising again.
And we've got Chuck Schumer a few days ago calling for forceful uprising, close quote.
Forceful uprising.
And you've got all these other top Democrats saying it.
You've got them on MSNBC saying we need the military and troops to turn on Trump.
That's a coup.
So there's a lot of this.
But most importantly, you have the blue state secession beginning just as the Podesta Plan said they would.
And then in the movie they produced, Civil War, that's based on that.
And in the statements Newsom made three weeks ago on Colbert, he goes, We're launching the Western Alliance.
That's the name in the Podesta Plan and the movie of the West Coast secedes first, then the East Coast joins.
Then the blue cities join.
And then the U.S. military joins them.
And they march across the country, killing all the white supremacist, literally, because that's the white people are.
And then they kill the Trump figure in the White House, the black female sergeant does.
So this is their plan.
And so he goes on, Colbert, and he says, We're launching the Western Alliance.
We're launching the offensive.
And everybody just yells and screams and just loves it because they've all been told what this is.
You go to Democrat Rally, they said, wait till the massacre of our people happens.
Then the Western Alliance forms and we will overthrow you.
I mean, it's their movie.
They go eat popcorn and this is what they believe is going to happen.
Now they got battle after battle out about how you got to go dynamite and kill all the feds and got to blow up all the federal buildings and got to kill the ICE people because why they got people in concentration camps in there with Leonardo DiCaprio.
So Scott Adams, who's a really smart guy, is like, this no kings thing this weekend's going nowhere.
And I agree.
But you had Tim Walls employee going around killing the state senators and House legislators and then saying, I was doing it to do a false flag so Tim Walls could blame Republicans And my accomplices, you know, didn't do their job, which I predicted it would be.
I mean, people, you don't hear about that story anymore in the news, do you?
Within two hours of it, Trump and I have both been blamed by people on the ground there, his roommate.
So, yeah, they're meant to fizzle.
They're meant to get attention and talk about how we live under Hitler and talk about how Trump's a Nazi and talk about how the white people are all white supremacists and need to die.
And then somebody's going to mow down the illegal aliens or the no-kings protest or blow up a traditional black college.
And remember, months and months and months before you hear anything about black colleges, I said, that's a prime target.
Because in their talking points, they kept saying Tom Holman and ICE and the military are going to kill before they put troops in the streets, are going to kill migrants en masse.
Nobody's going to do that.
You're not going to say it's a false flag.
unidentified
That's ridiculous.
alex jones
Then they say, and they're coming to kill masses of black people.
Well, where's the biggest group of black people, traditional black college?
Something like that.
Or, you know, maybe some black festival or something.
And so now you can see it all set up, all prepared, and that's the last piece.
And will they launch false flags this weekend?
I think there's a very high probability of it.
I said five days before the Minnesota attacks by Tim Walls' operative, according to him, were meant to be blamed on Trump and his supporters, which they did within hours of the script.
And then weeks later, the FBI, you know, okay, fine.
He got it out through his lawyer.
He says he works for Tim Walls, which he did work for Tim Walls.
He says he's been doing it for Tim Walls.
I said days before, I said, you know, maybe they'll kill some of their own lawmakers and blame us this Saturday.
Now they'll probably find that guy will have a laptop saying he loves me.
unidentified
Exactly happened.
alex jones
So, you know, it's, it's, I'm just sitting here just trying to wargame the next shoe to drop.
And I'll be doing a special live Saturday broadcast.
I'm going to wait a little bit later in the day so there's more developments that have unfolded.
But we'll go on about two o'clock Saturday, 2 p.m. out of the Alex Jones Network backup system that's about to be the system with all that's going on.
So we've got that happening.
But let me be very clear.
I haven't gotten to the big points yet.
And I know most of you already know all this.
You've seen it for yourselves.
You don't need me to tell you.
You're like, yeah, we know this.
We have hundreds of thousands of new people every hour, conservatively, tuning in different ways that are hearing this for the first time.
So I'm talking to the lost sheep out there.
I know you know.
This broadcast is more of an emergency beacon that's flashing warning, warning, warning, warning.
Plan Revealed 00:07:18
alex jones
Like if a nuclear reactor had melted down and getting anywhere near its deadly, they just have these alarms going off and they triggers a radio transmission in the area and flashing signs saying, hi radiation, don't enter.
And then there's recording saying, don't enter this area, deadly for humans.
This broadcast is just really just an emergency beacon.
Look out.
Look out.
unidentified
Here's the plan.
Here's the plan.
alex jones
And so you already know the plan.
unidentified
Good.
alex jones
Go tell other people the plan.
I'm just, I'm finally getting the Pentagon to listen.
I'm finally getting the White House to listen.
I'm finally getting them to understand.
And we literally have the Podesta plan.
It's being implemented.
And Newsom is on TV holding up a sign saying we've launched the Western Alliance and the offense is about to begin.
And then he goes, oh, it's for migrants in healthcare.
And now, what did I say three weeks ago?
I said, now New York and Boston, Massachusetts, they've joined the alliance, just like the movie.
And the Podesta Plan, it begins with an alliance over health care and protecting migrants.
This was written in 2020.
And so, yeah, we're lighting the brush fires.
We're warning the people here.
So you now have the Western states announcing they're launching the Western Alliance.
Now the East Coast is joining, just like the battle plan, just like the movie.
And then you have this.
You have Chicago saying it's time to rise up, fight back.
Citizen militia forming.
And this, LA County declares state of emergency over ICE raids, will pay rent and provide legal aid to illegal aliens.
Now, there are already in California other states giving illegal aliens $30,000 for their first mortgage that citizens don't get.
Free health care, free education, because they want to incentivize them here to be good voters.
And it's already happened.
And for state apportionment in the House of Representatives through the census, giving them at least 13 new seats under what's happening.
So this is their checkmate move.
And Trump's doing what's constitutional and what must be done to save the Republic.
But they're all over the news saying it's criminal, it's illegal, they're Nazis, they're Hitler.
Why?
I'm surprised more illegals haven't been killed with them shooting up the vehicles and attacking ICE and trying to run them over and ramming them and all the rest of it.
I mean, some have been killed in the shooting up of the ICE facilities on a weekly basis.
And so they're on the news.
unidentified
Why?
alex jones
When the ICE came, the dog, they don't tell you the police report that the pit bull attacks ICE, so they shoot it.
It's and the family dog was killed by the and the poor California man and California woman who were legal aliens were so sad.
Or there was broken glass and it fell on the baby in the car.
They don't tell you the guy's got 10 felony convictions.
They just grabbed him coming out of the state jail and that they were he was resisting.
And they never mentioned the hundreds of thousands, millions of dead Americans from fentanyl and the tens of thousands dead from illegal alien drunk drivers and tens of thousands dead from murder and rape and all the carnage and our dead reporter and all of it.
No, there's never any humanizing that.
It's just, oh, and then this man was, you know, out in front of Home Depot and he got grabbed in front of his wife and it was so mean and people aren't going to pull up with this.
So we need an uprising and we need the military to turn against Trump and we need to have the Western Alliance.
So now they're declaring emergencies all over the country, not just California.
First they say it's, oh, sanctuary city and state alliance.
Then it's oh, for healthcare alliance.
Oh, yeah, all the things Trump's doing.
The blue states are coming together saying we're going to have our own governance, our own system, and we're going to ignore you.
And Podesta said, first it'll start on Sanctuary City and healthcare.
And that's how, oh, we're an alliance.
We don't follow what the law and under the federal system areas the feds have the jurisdiction, like illegal aliens and healthcare policy and law.
But see, it starts with, oh, it's just an alliance.
And that's how Podesta says it starts in the plan.
And then there's a massacre of liberal protesters, of antifa, of illegal aliens.
That's it.
That's in the plan.
And then in the movie.
And then they give the order to the left to burn it all down.
Then the military is out there getting shot at.
The firemen are.
Everybody else is.
And then there's a real battle.
And then corporate media will be, oh, my God, it's Hitler.
Oh, my God.
And then you'll have the big false flags on top of that.
And so this is set up, ladies and gentlemen, and this is going down.
Now, because we have such hyper-awareness of it, and because we've been warning people so much, they're going to have a problem executing it.
And now they even get it off the ground.
It's like a plane kind of takes off and then the engine goes out and crashes.
I don't think they're going to get it off the ground right now because they're so exposed and so demoralized and that some of their funds cut off.
And we have so many people throughout even their own systems now and whistleblowers that they got big problems.
But or that may make them even more desperate.
They may go ahead with it.
The point is, even if they get this thing off the ground, it's taking off with basically no fuel.
So we're like taking off with a jumbo jet on fumes and the plane gets to a thousand feet and out goes the engines and boom you're doing a big belly flop.
So but it's extremely dangerous and it's on.
And that's why you got Democrats headlining around the country for uprisings and for forceful uprisings.
And you notice the rhetoric is five times more vicious than it was in June.
That No Kings was just a beta test.
And so now they're really going into high gear.
And again, No Kings is just the new name of the Islamic Black Lives Matter, Soros, Trantifoot, Antifa, American Communist Party, Democrat Socialist Party, garbage.
And Schumer saying, I'm keeping the government closed because I want people to be angry.
Democrats Plan Uprising Against Sanctuary Cities 00:07:23
alex jones
And then on the other side of his mouth, he says, no, no, no, no, we're not, we're not shutting things down.
The Republicans did it.
Democrats in the Senate are the ones that voted to do it.
unidentified
It's on record.
alex jones
But again, that's their disdain for us like we're so stupid.
So imagine illegal aliens are above the law and will pay for your housing and your health care and everything.
LA County, bankrupt California, tens of millions in debt.
But don't you worry.
We're going to give everything free to all of you because you're so precious and you're victims of these big, mean men coming here to get you.
And you've been imported here to lower the wages as a permanent underclass to then be apportioned so Democrats get more seats in Congress and to vote illegally and to be permanent voters.
And the Democrats admit that's their plan.
And then we're supposed to just sit by and watch you do it.
And then you make it all racial because that's what the left does.
And that's where we are.
And it goes on and on.
Pritzker finds his place at the ramparts up on the castle wall of the Trump resistance.
You can walk upstairs.
Blue states are setting up a shadow public health alliance to counter RFK Jr., the Western Alliance.
California now joins it.
Tim Wall signing laws so legal aliens can vote, telling them they can vote.
Remember Obama famously in 2016 told illegals, if you're here, you can vote.
You look at Drudge Report, Chicago fights back.
Oh, yes, they're fighting back.
LA state of emergency ice kills family dog agents hunt Walgreens.
Oh, the best they got is a dog attacking somebody.
Oh, do we hear about the Dead Board Patrol and Dead Ice or the ICE vehicles getting shot up so two illegals die?
Oh, that got shut down real quick.
Some crazy anti-fa-communist up on a rooftop.
But, oh, we got a dog.
Well, you wait till they mow down a couple hundred illegal aliens and truck bomb a black college.
And then they produce the Patsy.
It is coming.
They're certainly going to try it.
It is just the final ingredient.
Now, I want to get into Mondami and how this all ties in and what we can do to stop it.
And then the other side of this, they're now saying that Russia is going to attack London with drones with no evidence.
That's gearing up before the false flag.
But I wanted to play a short report, just a reminder by the facts here.
SB1, the Podesta plan, has launched a special report.
I was talking to Tucker Carlson.
This is very, very important.
Then, coming up today, Viva Fry, Robert Barnes, Roger Stone, your calls, and more.
And so many other big subjects I haven't hit, but I needed to hit this up front because this is one of their last moves.
We're winning, folks.
But if we don't keep our head on the swivel and if we don't expose how bad our enemies are and what they're capable of, they can hit us with our pants down.
Here's the report, and we'll be right back.
Stay with us and share the live feeds.
tucker carlson
What is the Podesta plan?
alex jones
Well, when I talk about this, I get chills because in August of 2020, Reitbart wrote about it.
The Daily Caller wrote about it.
But the New York Times wrote about it first.
And Podesta does this big Democrat Party war game.
tucker carlson
Which Podesta?
John?
alex jones
John Podesta.
tucker carlson
Former White School of Staff.
alex jones
Yep.
Absolutely.
And then later, the climate czar for Biden or giving up the climate money, stealing it.
He comes out of this huge report.
They publish the whole thing.
And I'm reading like this, like 70 pages or something.
And they say, if Trump wins in 2020, this is in August, months before, which they were able to steal it, so he didn't.
He said, we're going to have Western states secede.
We're going to have blue cities secede, but we'll start with the Western states, California, Oregon, and Washington.
And we'll call it over migrants and sanctuary cities and healthcare at first, which they're now doing.
I'm getting chills because it's all happening.
Like you go to a play and you're reading, oh, the next act is this.
And Romeo and Juliet.
I mean, it's all right there.
And they say, if he wins, we will say it's illegitimate.
We will have blue states first secede and that they're going to be sanctuary cities for the illegals.
Then when there's civil unrest, which they'll furnish, Trump will send the National Guard and then there'll be a massacre of the migrants.
And then we will kick off a civil war.
Then all the blue cities across the country will secede.
Then New York, Massachusetts, and others will secede.
And we'll form what we call the Western Alliance.
And we will then, the U.S. military will be with us because they control the generals, people that don't think otherwise.
That was Trump's big mistake.
He found out.
Most of them are globalists at the top, not your enlisted.
They're great people.
And that they would then form a military alliance if Trump did to stand down and they would march on D.C. And then they made a movie produced two years ago they released last year called Civil War that is the last act of the Podesta Plan.
That's in a two-plus-year Civil War race-based.
At the end, they go and, you know, the black female sergeant kills the Trumpian figure in the White House.
And that's because evil white people are not massacring brown people across the country.
So the U.S. military reconvenes under Gavin Newsom's command.
And then they come in and then they take over the country and then they re-educate all the evil right-wingers and evil white people.
And then I saw Gavin Newsome on Colbert about three weeks ago and he said, oh, we're forming and they hold a map up, the Western Alliance.
tucker carlson
Western Alliance, Western Alliance.
alex jones
And it's for migrants and healthcare.
And we're getting ready to go on offense.
And the whole crowd goes, because they're all red in on this.
They all know it is the Podesta Plan.
They all know it's the Western Alliance.
They all know it's the Western offense.
tucker carlson
What do you call this?
You call it West Coast offense?
unidentified
It's a Western Alliance.
alex jones
And so you had the Soros NGO-funded No Kings events.
We now have Schumer on Monday went on MSNBC and said, we need to have a forceful uprising.
We need to have a forceful uprising.
chuck schumer
Every American, I don't care if you're Democrat, Republican, liberal, conservative, moderate, people should be forcefully rising up against this, speaking out against it, and making it clear how inimical this is to what our democracy has been for, stood for for more than two centuries.
alex jones
This is chilling.
And he said he wants to keep the shutdown going at least until next Saturday, the 18th, to get the maximum amount of anger that they can get.
You have Hakeem Jeffries saying similar things.
So they're not even hiding any of this anymore.
tucker carlson
So the idea is to whip their supporters into a frenzy, basically do BLM five years later.
alex jones
Yes, but on a much wider scale.
unidentified
So why don't you just keep your mouth shut?
Oh, because you showed up.
Is that the way to talk?
You showed up.
You voted.
You can extend it right now.
InfoWar Veterans Discount 00:07:18
unidentified
Permanent extension of massive tax break.
Is that right?
90% of Americans take the standard deduction.
If you had your way, the standard deduction would have been cut in half.
That would have been a massive tax increase on Americans.
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unidentified
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alex jones
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unidentified
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Now, I want to finish up with the No Kings protests come up this weekend.
The left, the top Democrats openly calling for forceful uprising, close quote.
I've got even more here, more clips of them.
Just want to get it on record and then I'm going to move into everything else.
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I mean, God just keeps coming through with all the evidence.
Fusing Public Support 00:05:53
alex jones
But then Trump's deputy AG killed the investigation.
High blanche.
So God comes through for us, but he acts through humans.
And it's okay.
Because in the court of public opinion, they're completely convicted.
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I mean, you see me do live feeds.
I'm just, I did feeds in the airport.
It's just like every other person shaking my hand, black, white, female, old, young, Hispanic.
And, you know, then one person walks by and says, F you.
They've lost, ladies and gentlemen.
But they think if they can target the leadership of the resistance and punish us, we'll all give up, so we'll be leaderless.
unidentified
Not happening.
alex jones
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unidentified
All right.
alex jones
I want to walk through the rest of the Civil War plan that I cannot believe is the official Democrat Party plan since August 2020.
unidentified
I don't know.
alex jones
They said they implemented it 10 months ago when Trump was getting in.
You played the clips many times.
And now they're following the rollout exactly like the plan in the movie.
And they say it's their plan.
And we have their plan.
So if some of you are sick of hearing me talk about it, well, I'm sorry.
I got so many incredible clips, so much amazing news, and we'll get to it.
But this is happening.
And when you turn on the news and a truck bomb blows up a sports stadium, say at a black college football game and kills a thousand black people, and there's footage of babies blown up with their arms and legs blown off, like we saw outside Oklahoma City, it's going to be real bad.
And if we don't get out ahead of this, people are going to buy it.
So, or you're going to be driving home from work and hear, oh, did you hear about the mass shooting in Chicago or Denver or Austin or LA?
And you're going to hear 300 shot, 100 and something dead.
Trump supporter opens fire with automatic weapons.
The man in the MAGA hat was shot and killed by police, something like that.
So the fuse is lit on this thing.
I'm sitting there trying to put it out with enough attention on it.
That's how you do it.
But it's about to go right into the pile of dynamite.
And there's not much time.
It's going pss.
And I've been sitting there in the last year going, look at it.
unidentified
They lit it.
alex jones
Sir, Plimps.
This is a board.
And now the fuse is about an inch long.
And I'm watching it.
unidentified
Go.
Boom.
alex jones
And then we're in a whole nother ball game, boys and girls.
And the globalists always produce these plans, war games, then make movies about what they're going to do.
And it's for their own constituents to feel powerful and know they're all part of it.
That's why we caught all these videos of Democrats at demonstrations going, you just wait till you mow a bunch of us down.
That's when it all goes down.
And then the Civil War starts.
We're going to kill all of you.
They're red in, folks.
That's why you heard on Colbert with the Governor Newsom, Patrick Bateman.
He was like, yeah, we've launched the Western Alliance from Western offense.
Everybody goes, woohoo, yeah.
And Colbert's like, because he's best buddies with Podesta.
hang out vacation together.
Oh, they got a blend, don't they?
unidentified
Woo, boy.
alex jones
Real funny.
Couple American psychos up there.
And remember the UN and HOTES and Fauci said, we got to round up the anti-vaxxers.
We got to have martial law next time there's a pandemic.
And now Fauci says there's about to be a new pandemic.
And they're going to have to lock things down during it.
So they're going to have that piggy backed in.
And that's also part of the Western Alliance is their own database, their own systems that they're not going to follow whatever Trump says to do.
So they can bare minimum just lock down all the major cities.
They control all the major cities and some of the most populous states.
Pull Up Brian: Faces of Fear 00:04:24
alex jones
So it's got that COVID or some new virus 2.0, which the UN and the globalists have said they would use disease X's for domestic control if there was ever uprisings against the globalist.
The EU, it's been leaked a decade ago that if there was ever an uprising or countries pulling out of the EU, yeah, look at the faces.
That's demonic possession right there.
Colbert.
And when he gets with Podesta, in videos, they always make these faces together.
And just so people that don't know about Satanism, I do.
That's demon.
unidentified
Put it up.
alex jones
That's the face you see when you're strapped down on an altar and somebody comes in with a dagger to start slicing you up, just so you know.
That is the Joker.
And if you look at the full photo, most of them are making that face, and they do it in a lot of them.
That's Jack Nicholson out right there.
That's El Diabolo.
That's why he's best plays with Obama.
These people are Satan worshipers.
110%.
And I know most of you never run into this, so you don't understand it.
I have run into it.
And that's a whole other long story I've told before.
But you never got lured into a satanic ceremony or anything.
Most people got hoods over their heads, but the high priest and other people known.
And that's the faces they're making right there.
I mean, I mean, that's it.
So, you know.
That's like in the remake of the Twilight Zone in the 80s, where he picks up the hitchhiker.
He says, you want to see something really scary?
Want to see something really scary?
That's what it is.
You need to understand, ladies and gentlemen, what you're dealing with.
Pull up Brian Stelter demoning out.
unidentified
Pull up.
alex jones
Pull up Brian Stelter doing it.
Jack Nicholson made hundreds of millions of dollars because he can make that face.
Ugh, that's what you're dealing with.
And that ain't a human right there.
The lights are on, but no human is home.
That is an interdimensional gremlin.
Yeah, the Martians don't come in tin can flying saucers, folks.
They come interdimensionally.
Yeah, there you go.
Not a very nice creature.
Yes, John Podesta, we will have the seven, eight, and nine-year-old delivered for your entertainment and pleasure to the hot tub in the wooded area.
No one else will be there for your entertainment.
They're well-trained children, but remember, they're still children, but they will follow your directives.
So liberal.
It's also in there about, oh, oh, another little smiley face.
He's not, you know, fully pumping it out.
He knows how to control himself a little better.
Can you imagine when Newsom turns on the full demon?
That's a scary face right there.
And we all archetypically see it and know it because in your DNA, you know.
Newsom can't even get the look off his face, but it's just a shadow of what's there behind the scenes.
Give you an example.
You ever seen that 80s movie Fright Night when the guy, the vampire turns fully into the vampire?
What looks like that?
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
It gets a lot worse than just what they're flashing to you.
And I'm just spending some time on this.
unidentified
You know why they're so evil?
alex jones
Why are they so bad?
Because they're demon possessed.
unidentified
So.
New Pandemic Coming? 00:04:24
alex jones
That's what we're dealing with.
Yeah, no, that's not the head vampire.
You got to get the head vampire transforming.
You want to get the look I'm talking about.
But it's just, just get him off the screen.
I can't look at these things anymore.
So, excuse me.
Now, getting back to where we were, Fauci has crawled out from under his rock.
Hadn't really been seen a year to say, oh, the new pandemic is coming.
You will learn.
So is Bill Gates.
And so, how'd they deal with Trump the first time?
Release a new virus that was novel, that didn't make people sick, that was man-made, so it freaked out everybody.
Then they have the shot that actually triggers, you know, 100 times worse, the destruction of people's bodies and immune systems.
And so you got Hotez and the rest of them saying Trump will be challenged by a new pandemic, and we need to round up and arrest the people that aren't for the new lockdowns or forced injections because they're terrorists.
And I'll show you again when they said that.
So it's not just blow up a black college or black football game.
It's not just shooting about an illegal alien administration or a no-kings event.
It's also release a new virus.
And I mean, look at these guys.
I mean, Hotez is like a Renfield demon.
I mean, there's different ones.
You learn how they are.
That's a.
unidentified
Oh, please, master.
alex jones
May I have some rats, some rats?
I want a child, Master.
And you got Dracula boss right over here to the side.
But I mean, these are ultra-evil people.
That's what Fauci's name means in Italian, Grim Reaper.
Or the sickle.
So they're getting ready to make this move.
And they got cyber attacks they can launch to and blame it on the Russians.
And that's coming up.
The British government says, oh, the Russians are about to hit us with drones in London.
Told you that was coming.
Oh, they're going to hit European cities.
Oh, the Russians have sped snatched in all the cities, and they're getting ready to do mass casualty events, truck bombs, mass shootings, and drones.
Imagine a group backed by the Russians hit 10 Downing Street with high explosive drones.
We go into full nuclear war.
The Russians don't want to go to war with the world.
They want NATO off their porch.
But that's all the other big thing we're dealing with.
So we've entered the house, the time, the zone of the false flag because the globalists are losing on every front.
And now this is the only move they've got left.
Here's Fauci just a few days ago.
A new pandemic is coming.
Watch.
anthony fauci
And then there's the transformative, if I might use that word, experience that we've all had now in year five of COVID.
So the thought that we won't have another pandemic, I think, is naive at best and just completely unrealistic at worst.
So to rephrase your question, I'm convinced that there will be another pandemic.
And that's the reason why we have to be perpetually prepared to prevent the terrible impact of a pandemic.
alex jones
So translated, give us all the power and we'll protect you.
Now here's Hotez.
California announces coalition of governors forming a new alliance to protect public health from political interference and say they're going to do lockdowns, they're going to do forced injections.
They're just going to ignore that.
That's called secession.
And then remember what he said.
Vaccine scientists warns anti-science conspiracies, this is the guy that said it was 100% safe and effective, have become a deadly organized movement.
Seeing Victory 00:13:08
alex jones
And the head of the UN program says we need to all be arrested.
He says this too.
So that's what Hotez is pushing.
Anti-vax activism, which I actually call anti-science aggression, it's aggression, not letting input stuff in your body, has now become a major killing force globally and needs to be outlawed.
And that's what Newsom says.
There's all this disinfo and all these groups, and we're not going to let people in our Western alliance be part of that.
See how it works?
See how it works?
LA County declares a state of emergency over ICE raids, will pay rent and provide legal aid.
Los Angeles County has declared a state of emergency over ongoing ice raids, and it's going to pay for legal aliens' rent and will provide rent relief for tenants who have fallen behind as a result of the enforcement actions targeting people living in the United States illegally.
And they're going to pay for their legal and more with taxpayer money.
Pritzker finds his place at the ramparts.
That means up at the top of the castle in the war with Trump and the resistance.
Blue states are setting up a shadow public health alliance to counter Trump and RFK Jr.
Giving all the illegals drivers' license and telling them to vote.
ICE is cracking down on Chicago.
Some Chicagoans are fighting back.
Oh, with militia patrols.
Everyone's welcome in the businesses, but ICE.
Federal judge orders ICE to take down security fence at Broadview, Illinois facility.
You can't even have walls around your own facility.
Starting to figure it out.
They're making their move.
They captured the blue cities through election fraud and they don't want to give it up.
I want to play a clip here.
Dealing with Antifa.
I got a whole bunch of clips on Antifa I'm going to be getting to.
you Let's play Mike Ben's clip 19 dealing with cutting off the funding.
And he's absolutely right.
And now we have the Treasury Secretary saying the same thing.
They're now actually taking action.
Here it is.
unidentified
Is USA doing any of this stuff in America?
mike benz
It's all supposed to be foreign.
What they'll do is they'll fund an organization to do global work, but then it also does domestic work.
Like, for example, take something like the Tide Center, which is this big international NGO.
It's closely associated with George Soros.
The Tide Center operates domestically with these Soros prosecutors and BLM and all these different groups, antifa-related groups, climate-related groups, all these groups that do like street paramilitary action.
But they get all this money from USAID.
I think they got $27 million worth of grants.
Of that, like $22 million were for grants to, quote, secure concrete commitments from foreign governments on civil society matters.
They're basically being paid as an intermediary for the U.S. government to do shadow diplomacy on behalf of the U.S. government.
So that's like funding their coffers.
That allows them to essentially hire people, have institutional clout, have these giant network connections, and then they can leverage that in an in-kind way when it comes to all their little housed domestic products.
alex jones
I'm going to have the Treasury Secretary clip when we come back.
Then we're going to go to our special guest to cover the waterfront, obviously attacks on InfoWars, Viva Fry.
But we're not funded by the NGOs.
We're not funded by USA.
We're not funded by George Soros and your taxpayer money.
The left takes your money and gives it to illegal aliens, gives it to the criminal groups, all of it, as you just saw.
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viva frei
You're not going to talk to me.
unidentified
Wasted.
You're not going to talk to me.
Because you don't want to hear what I have to say.
Oh, and listen, why don't you just keep your mouth shut?
alex jones
I've been on air for 31 years, but 28 years ago, I launched InfoWars, and it's changed the world thanks to all of your support of the operation.
People like Hakeem Jeffries want us to shut up.
unidentified
Can you like, shut up?
alex jones
That's what all their lawfare, all their lawsuits, all their attacks have been about.
And they're passing anti-free speech laws in Canada, the UK, Europe.
They're arresting people for even criticizing the government.
And they're trying to bring that here.
And that's why it's so important to try to keep InfoWars on the air.
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unidentified
But wait, there's more.
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unidentified
Oh, I'm listening.
Just keep your mouth shut.
alex jones
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We're not going to shut up.
unidentified
The tree will get you nowhere.
hakeem jeffries
We are fighting to protect the health care of the American people in the face of an unprecedented Republican assault.
alex jones
Hold on and continue fighting, and we will win.
We are seeing massive victory, but these are long wars of attrition and it takes absolute commitment and perseverance, which is empowering and a great thing.
It's a lot better than being a slave.
Here is Treasury Secretary Vascent talking about targeting Antifa and their funds for their criminal activities and going all the way up the chain of command to the top globalists.
This is the way you do it, and it's actually happening.
They've been declared domestic international terrorists.
andrew kolvet
I want to play a clip here that's really important because you're working on a very important piece of this.
unidentified
I wish we had more time for this.
andrew kolvet
So let's just get right into it.
1:36.
unidentified
Let me tell you something.
stephen miller
I'd not share with anybody, but the last message that Charlie Kerr gave to me before he joined his creator in heaven was he said that we have to dismantle and take on the radical left organizations in this country that are fomenting violence.
That was the last message that he sent me before that assassin stole him from all of us.
unidentified
So that is a powerful clip.
andrew kolvet
Stephen Millius said something similar when JD hosted the show on the Monday after he was assassinated.
And Treasury, I come to find out coming to D.C. that Treasury has taken an active role in an aspect of this dismantling of the financial networks that are supporting some of these radical left violent groups.
unidentified
Share with what you can.
andrew kolvet
I know it's an ongoing process.
scott bessent
So it's an ongoing process.
And I will tell you that after 9-11, Treasury became the driving force behind tracking down the networks of terrorist organizations, how they were financed.
How could this have happened on U.S. soil with these international terrorist organizations?
Where did the money come from?
Who were the ultimate funders?
And that was on the international side.
And Andrew, I will tell you that Charlie's death is like a domestic 9-11.
That we are going to find it has alerted us to what Charlie knew, that these organizations are working within our borders.
And look, we believe people have a right to free speech.
They have a right to organize.
They have a right to protest, but they have to do it peacefully.
They cannot embrace violence.
And we have seen it.
We've seen it since the terrible day two years ago.
The anti-Semitism and the bias that came out after October 7th, 2023.
And many of these organizations have been financed by nonprofits.
And it's going to stop.
And we are going to, as they always say, follow the money.
When you see these groups where all the signs match, they have hundreds of the same umbrellas that they're using after they close the mayhem.
They have the same lasers that they're using to blind our police force.
How are they constructed?
Because this takes a lot of money.
It takes a lot of organization, and we are going to do that.
We have started to compile this, put together networks, and there's a long record here.
And we don't know how much of the support's coming in from overseas.
We don't know how much being supported by U.S. nonprofits, C3s that give money to C4.
But this is mission critical for us now.
Just as after 9-11 and Osama bin Laden, the ultimate culprit was captured.
We are operationalizing this here at Treasury, and we are going to track down who is responsible for this.
So Charlie's death has set this off, and we are determined.
We are determined not only to honor him, but to keep our country safe and to ensure freedom of speech on both sides.
We can't, as conservatives, we can't be afraid to go out and speak.
I know people are canceling speeches.
They're having to bring down the size of the rallies.
President Trump was millimeters away from death, and he was not deterred.
Manufactured Judicial Findings 00:15:45
alex jones
All right, ladies and gentlemen, even if this didn't happen to me, if this ruling happened yesterday to somebody else with the same ruling, I would be talking about it a lot.
And I'm not going to spend the whole hour with Viva Fry, really smart lawyer, talk show host, journalist, patriot, good friend of mine.
I've been wanting to get him on for a few weeks about all the other issues he sees and the left and antifa and the buildup to violence and the Ukraine war that is entered the phase of NATO hyping that Russia is going to sneak attack with drones and terrorists and spit-snap troops on the streets of London.
The British government is saying prepare for Russian kamikaze drones to swarm Britain's skies.
I mean, come on, people.
This is what you do right before you false flag.
And the Russians have been warning of that because they've won the war conventionally.
NATO started it.
And I want this war to stop for everybody.
Now Trump says, oh, I think I'm going to send cruise missiles.
And we'll give you Russia's response to that.
This is insane.
Now, me will be, Jones turns on Trump.
No, I support 95% of it.
But it is kind of a deal killer if Trump starts a nuclear war.
And this is not, you know, art of the deal.
Well, they're not giving up.
Well, NATO and Ukraine aren't making the deal.
And now Trump's like, oh, you get all the land back and maybe more.
So I want to look at that.
I want to look at the indictments and more coming and the other criminal investigations that are going on that has spurred Schumer to say we need a forceful uprising, close quote, because of Letitia James being indicted.
I told you when these indictments started, and I told you it'd be Comey and then James and then Down that they would escalate the calls for violence out of desperation when that happened.
And now you got Blue State saying, we're going to pay illegal aliens legal fees, pay for their houses.
We're forming a Western alliance, an offense.
We're basically seceding, which is the Podesta plan.
And in the Podesta Plan, they slow roll it out like this.
But they're getting you used to the secession.
So with all that going on, Viva Fry's been a practicing lawyer, so he can speak to this in a more eloquent way than I can, but it's very simple.
You're supposed to default people in civil issues if somebody owns a bank and they run to another country with $50 million and they won't show up.
You still got to go before, have a jury on the damages, show what's happening so you can then seize whatever property they had in the U.S. to try to pay people back that were invested in the bank.
That's an example.
Eben Harrison Smith asked ChatGPT, and ChatGPT got it right, but only part of what was right.
Yes, we were defaulted because they said, give us your marketing material from your sponsors on how you made money off Sandy Hook.
So they say I make billions of dollars, literally.
Never made, never had more than $10 million in the bank myself.
Yeah, we've sold $10 million of water filters in a year.
We only make 30% on them.
I mean, it's this idea.
Oh, gross sales, 50 million.
Yeah, we made 20 million and then had to pay the crew and pay all the stuff.
I mean, it's crazy.
So they get up with this false narrative, whatever they put in filings, and then the judges say, You must give us the Google Analytics.
We rarely use Google Analytics, had nothing to do with that.
I don't sit here with news I cover and couple it with what I'm selling.
You just, you're your regular listeners, your viewers.
I came out, I covered news last hour, and then I said, Here's our great sale: 25% off store-wide, a free hat with every order, fundraiser.
It had nothing to do with the topics of the Democrats accelerating a violent uprising last hour.
Nothing.
But they sued me under unfair trade practices as if I was involved in fraud, not even really defamation.
And then they just kept saying, give us the marketing material.
I mean, I personally never went on Google Analytics.
Some of the writers would want to see how many clicks they got, so they would look at it.
That's all they had was like a Don Salazar looking at how many, you know, some articles he wrote.
That was it.
I've never walked in there to the writers and said, write this story to promote this product.
unidentified
Never.
alex jones
It's all completely transparent.
I've been on talk radio for 30 years.
Well, Access TV 31, talk radio 30.
unidentified
I'm just talking radio.
I get clips.
I get articles.
alex jones
I get guests.
I didn't talk to Viva Fry before he came on.
We told him some of the topics and the text messages we wanted to talk about.
It's not like, and let's talk about the marketing we're going to do.
I mean, it's absolutely insane.
We don't even really have sponsors.
We have like a gold sponsor.
And I'll see that gold's up or silver's up or some big move happened.
And I'll text Kirk and say, hey, Kirk Elliot, when can you come on the next few days and talk about the market?
That's the extent of the planning.
So this is talk radio on TV, folks.
But they said, no, it's all scripted.
When they sued me, they would ask, who does your talking points?
Who fills your teleprompter?
Who funds you?
I'm like, a shopping cart.
They sued my dad deposing probably 10 times.
And they would always ask, who gives Alex the orders?
And my dad would say, well, I'm just on the supplement side.
I mean, it's all in his head.
Alex just comes in and a bunch of articles and news, and then the crew just sits there and they give him ideas and stuff, and they go, so I was defaulted for not giving them made-up evidence that didn't exist.
And my lawyers are like, the judge is going to default you if you don't give them something.
And I said, all we have is the sales sheets we do that I write or Chase writes now.
And it just says what the sale is.
Here, here, here it is.
So we gave them years of these.
And the judge went, You have tried to deceive me.
You know what the talking points for Viva Fry are today?
unidentified
Here it is.
alex jones
It's his bio and his website.
See?
Ooh, the premeditation here.
Look at it.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
alex jones
So premeditated.
I'm going to stop because I want our guests to speak.
But the other thing they defaulted us for was the foundation suing us and that the DOJ was funding, was working with Hillary Clinton.
The woman in the deposition said, Yeah, no, Hillary Clinton's involved.
And so my lawyer said, Well, we're going to try to depose Hillary Clinton.
The judge went, That's it.
You're totally defaulted.
You can't talk to Hillary Clinton.
So that's all this is.
Meanwhile, you should have given him the evidence, you filthy dog.
Then I'm found guilty.
They have show trials on how guilty him.
And notice, federal judge, Mike Lindell, suing him for questioning electronic voting machines.
The judge says, you cannot hack machines.
No evidence.
Of course, all of them are hackable.
And I find you guilty $1.5 billion.
But now we're going to have a jury decide that if you do it with malice, even more.
And then they said, remember with me, they said $1.5 billion is not enough.
We want $2.75 trillion.
All right, I'm going to go to Viva here.
I don't want to spend all day on this.
We only got 45 minutes with them.
I apologize for going in late.
But this is a big deal for everybody because they said when they got the default three years ago, they said, we're now going to do this to everybody, including Tucker Carlson.
And they've done it to my pillow.
They've done it to they've done it to Rudolf Giuliani.
This is their new thing.
And then you have the Justice Department running it, admitting it with the documents on the stand, undercover and in documents.
And the deputy head of the DOJ comes out and kills an investigation.
Ed Martin had it going into it when this is the most cut and dry weaponization ever.
So, yeah.
It's a big deal to have the Supreme Court because it went past the first two layers of lawyers.
They thought it was important enough.
95% get kicked out the first two layers.
It went to the Supreme Court.
They sat down and looked at it and said, no comment rejected.
And then, isn't it funny?
Just a few weeks ago, Mike Lindell, 1.5 billion.
A judge found him guilty.
No more juries.
No more Magna Carta, folks.
All right, I'm going to shut up.
Viva Fry joins us.
The Viva Fry show, F-R-E-I, vivabarns.locals.com.
unidentified
Love them to death.
alex jones
Thank you so much for being here.
Let's spend some time on this.
And then I want to shift gears and everything else that's happening.
Thanks for being here.
viva frei
Well, no, my pleasure.
Listening to you explain it again, it's insanity.
And people really have to understand this.
And I highlighted it yesterday with Harrison, like defaulting into liability.
Hypothetically, let's just say they sued you for 10 years.
A hypothetical example where someone's suing someone for 10 years of salary.
And they say the defendant was so bad, they defaulted him into a liability finding.
So they give the judgment over to the plaintiff.
But if the plaintiff had showed the contract, it would have only been for a year of salary.
Let's just say that.
They basically gave a lottery ticket to the plaintiffs because they did not allow them or require them to even prove the elements of their case.
Going into your profits, Alex, is only relevant if you've been found liable for defamation in the first place.
So to default you into a liability finding because you didn't provide evidence, which doesn't exist of profits that you didn't make when they didn't even prove the intentional infliction of emotional distress or defamation in the first place.
So they default you into liability and just hand over a judgment where they didn't have to prove actual malice.
They didn't have to prove issues of statutory limitations.
They didn't have to prove their case.
And then the only trial you have, trial put it in quotes, is on the quantum, which is insane.
I wanted to refresh my memory because I think, you know, the survivors of the Armenian genocide were asking for $3 billion by way of reparations.
So they think your words, the few words that you spoke over a decade that amounted to a 16-minute montage is worth half of what the survivors of the Armenian genocide were seeking by way of reparations.
That's how insane it is.
And it is extremely disappointing that the Supreme Court apparently hasn't taken it, is not taking it up.
And I don't know, does it just end there now?
Is this injustice ratified where defendants are defaulted into liability findings?
Plaintiffs are absolved of the obligation to prove their case.
And they did, as you astutely observed, do this with other players afterwards, Lindell, denying people of their defenses, Giuliani, Bannon, Navarro, Trump.
And the MO has now gone from being the extraordinary one-off with Alex Jones to being the new modus operandi with politically disfavored opponents.
And the Supreme Court says, well, everyone hates Alex Jones.
So nobody's going to give us a hard time for not taking this particular case up.
Well, the standard's been set for everybody.
And it's already been done right up to the highest levels of office, including the president of these United States of America.
alex jones
Well, that's exactly what's happening.
And you do have these older people, I've noticed, these judges who are in their own bubble.
They don't understand the world's moved on.
The court of public opinion, almost no one buys this.
That's why they had to turn off the YouTube comments that millions were watching in the Texas show trial and the Connecticut show trial that over four years of lawsuits, they all coordinated both of them back to back in two months, right before the midterms.
And when 99% of the comments were against them, they turned the comments off because people could see it was totally rigged and wasn't real.
So this is so dangerous.
And now they're just doing it everywhere.
And so Trump and his administration really need to do something about this.
And I don't know why Todd Blanche, you know, killed an investigation into this because it's so cut and dry.
But I guess he's protecting his own agency because they ran the attack.
viva frei
I don't want to rail too hard against Todd Blanche, but there's been a number of areas where some players of the Trump administration have been seemingly running contrary to certain promises of Trump himself.
But set that aside, I mean, there has to be some sort of congressional or legislative remedy to this.
But the only problem is there was already legislative and judicial protections in the first place.
Sullivan versus the New York Times requiring actual malice to be proved when it comes to media outlets.
And then they say, well, you're not a media outlet.
You have statutory limitations for these issues of defamation.
They bypassed all of it by not just defaulting you from defending, but defaulting them into a judgment, which is, it's unheard of.
And people need to understand this.
People were outraged at the trial that they thought they were watching in Texas with that judge.
I forget her name now.
And not even appreciating.
They're like, they're not even proving their case, let alone damages.
I was like, well, they don't need to prove their case because they were defaulted into their victory on the case.
And now they've had a hand-selected jury pool who are not going to be against.
issuing a ridiculous judgment.
And you have a show trial on the quantum.
alex jones
Well, it's worse than that.
You know, I got lawyers, Ben Brooks and Shelby Jordan.
My other lawyers were great, but these guys are workhorses.
They actually went and got the whole record.
We paid for it, went through it all, went through all the evidence, and they went, oh my God, they would find the quotes they said and they chop down like two seconds and leave off.
I believe kids died.
People are saying it's synthetic, didn't happen.
How incredibly, and it was all given to the Supreme Court with the video links and showing that what they said I said wasn't said, but the judges would read pleadings into the record or news articles as if they were findings.
So I didn't even do the things they said I did, which were protected if I did them.
So you have to understand, my lawyers were stunned and they showed it to top law professors, you name it.
They said, this is unbelievable.
I went to like, they showed the clips to other law professors.
They went, oh my God, where I would say, no, I believe kids died, but these people are saying they didn't.
They believe it's totally synthetic.
They would cut that out, show that, and then put it in a filing.
And then the judge would say that was that.
And then we weren't even allowed to put on evidence, which we tried to do, showing that it was incorrect.
And the judge said, no, you're already guilty.
viva frei
Alex, you couldn't say that you were innocent.
You couldn't mention that you would apologize and retract.
And you couldn't mention that you couldn't assert innocence.
And you have these basically manufactured judicial findings.
First of all, even if you had said what they said you said to the extent they purport you said it.
So now suggesting that certain things are false flags for whatever that means, because that term has never been defined, is going to be tantamount to lawsuits in the orders of billions of dollars.
Judge Kaplan's Controversial Ruling 00:06:39
viva frei
So everybody suggesting that Trump wasn't actually shot in Butler, billion dollar judgments.
Everybody suggesting that Charlie Kirk, whatever crazy theories they have about that, billion dollar judgment.
I mean, the issue.
alex jones
There's a big talk show saying Charlie didn't die, which I believe he did die.
You can't fake that.
I mean, that was real, the spine being severed.
The point is, is that they have a right to say the moon's made of cheese if they want.
unidentified
Exactly.
viva frei
And not just that.
You have these judges.
And people need to go back to Judge Kaplan in the E. Gene Carroll case, where even when they don't get the findings they want from the jury after a trial in front of a jury, which at least Trump had, the judge then goes on to manufacture literal rape, where the jury verdict form in the Kaplan-E.
Gene Carroll case, the jury said, no, Trump did not rape E. Gene Carroll.
And then the judge comes out and says, nah, close enough.
What he's alleged to have done in terms of battery or assault, it's digital rape, he calls it.
So he's an adjudicated rapist.
And then the media runs with that.
alex jones
Everybody couldn't say he was innocent.
That's what he was found liable for.
Can't say you're innocent.
viva frei
Yeah, Alex.
And then nobody's up in arms about this.
But how do you think we got there?
It's like, you know, it happens very slowly.
Then all at once, when they have a judge, an activist judge literally manufacturing a verdict that didn't occur of rape so that the media can then come out and call Trump an adjudicated rapist.
It's, you know, I don't even know that you were the first person.
They've probably been doing this on people throughout the history of the judicial system.
alex jones
Absolutely.
But it gets worse.
Under Texas and Connecticut law, you have to, in defamation, say the name of someone.
I said the name of one person that sued me.
viva frei
Alex, people understand that the FBI agent who didn't, and not say he didn't suffer trauma that day, I'm sure he did.
He didn't suffer the loss of a loved one, which you acknowledge, by the way, despite what everyone says.
$90 million in damages to an FBI agent because people online were suggesting he was a crisis actor, putting it in quotes and wearing a uniform.
alex jones
By the way, I never saw that coverage.
I never even, I didn't create the coverage.
We asked him on the stand, Alex Jones ever say your name?
And it was crew?
unidentified
No.
alex jones
Well, what happened to you?
Well, somebody called my office, wants to see if I was real.
And then it was a local reporter I talked to later.
viva frei
No, but Alex, appreciate that.
You never said his name.
But by that point, when people are discovering that that was the absence of evidence in the case, you had already been a liability defaulted into liability.
I shared the anecdote in my practice of law, which I'm no longer, I relinquished my license up in Quebec because I don't ever want to practice again because this is enough to deter people from practicing.
You know, one case where a defendant was defaulted into not defending, but the plaintiffs still have to build their case and make their case because they might not have the evidence for their case, or they might have all the evidence in the world, but it's just time barred.
And then they have to prove why it's not time barred or why they circumvent statute limitations.
None of that in this case.
It was just, here's a blank check lottery ticket.
Now let's go hand select your jury to come up with the 1.5.
alex jones
Well, we would absolutely say, so who came to harass you?
unidentified
I don't know.
alex jones
Did you see him?
No.
Well, I heard about it from a neighbor.
Well, who are they?
I don't know.
I can't say.
Well, it's those people, Peter on the Graves.
I heard that.
Who told you?
I don't know.
It's all just made up.
And they could just get up there.
I'd never even been to Connecticut.
For a couple of years, I never even said that it didn't happen.
It became a big internet thing that didn't happen.
So I did a few interviews.
This is why Elon Musk put it back on X. We explained to him that I was banned for all this other stuff that I didn't do.
And he went to the logs and saw it all and noticed I never said anything.
He'd see every tweet I ever did.
He searched it and looked at it.
And he said, oh my God, there were like five tweets on these years about Sandy Hook.
And all of a sudden, it was real.
He's talking about an interview with me and like a two-plus hour interview we did.
Roll me right back on X. He was like, this is incredible.
He found it was the same PR firm and law firm suing him that were doing all this.
He was just blown away because he was told I was taking off Henry Sandy Hook.
My name was never associated with Sandy Hook until Hillary Clinton in 2016 attacked me and brought out this narrative.
And then for two years, they do fundraising and raise hundreds of millions of dollars through the Sandy Hook Foundations of the minority of the parents that do go out and fundraise off the tragedy.
And that's when the narrative, and people are like, why are you talking about Sandy Hook?
Why are you making money off of it?
unidentified
I wasn't.
alex jones
They were making money saying I was making money.
And then I was sending people to do things to them and none of it ever happened.
I mean, this is pure victimology.
It's so dastardly.
viva frei
We've lived through it.
And those who paid attention know how bad it was.
And credit to Elon Musk because I do remember him saying, I'm not bringing back Alex Jones, you know, when you exploit the death of children and it's something that's close to me.
And he realized, A, that's not what you were yeeted from X for in the first place.
And B, it's not what you did in the first place.
And whether or not you said things that were wrong.
alex jones
Well, it's just like everything you do on X or Twitter before, for the managers, everything you ever did was there.
So he said, to people that I talked to, Maury said, no, he went.
Elon Musk is a very busy guy.
I went and spent an hour.
He said he double checked it.
There was like four posts and it all said it happened.
viva frei
Yeah.
Alex.
alex jones
When he saw that, he was like, oh my God, this is like, because it's crazy.
viva frei
What's crazy is also that they will stifle any legitimate, but let's just say they've mischaracterized what you did in fact say.
You said some things which were false.
Okay, fine.
When you're on air for a decade and you do not entertain, but rather discuss prevailing theories, because I remember the theory was going around then.
It's still going around now.
I still get emails from people saying Sandy Hook never even happened.
I'm like, okay, let's agree to disagree on that because I'm not entertaining that discussion with you.
But the mere idea now of countering or negating official narratives, the true false flag of Sandy Hook might very well have been the absence of the administration to take proper protocols to protect the kids from that type of incident in the first place.
It might have been, you know, the identity of the shooter himself and what political leanings he might have had.
It might have been a number of other things where the event occurred and not many rational people, I think, deny that.
unidentified
Well, exactly.
alex jones
Well, now there's such a loss of credibility in the system.
Methylene Blue Mystery 00:03:38
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viva frei
We're seeing it right now with the Charlie Kirk theories going around and everybody who thinks that this can't come to them for the theories that some people are floating about Charlie Kirk assassination.
You're all now.
alex jones
Well, let's talk about that.
I mean, people say like the security guard shoots him.
He's got a phone under his arm.
People are cutting dry.
Here's the killer.
I never did anything even approaching that.
We'll be right back with Viva Fry.
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All right, I want to finish up on the subject of Infowars and the First Amendment, which if I was covering this happening to somebody else, I wouldn't believe it.
I mean, they just did it to Mike Lindell.
I already covered that yesterday.
I got all the articles.
Judge finds him guilty.
$1.5 billion.
The interest I owe them is $400 million right now.
So it's almost at $2 billion.
Though the Supreme Court of Connecticut reduced it by $300 million, so I guess it's at about $4.7 billion.
It's meant to scare people.
And folks ask, well, what's going to happen next?
I have a non-dischargeable debt, even though the bankruptcy law is set up to not do that, even though America was founded to get rid of debtor prisons.
They lied to the federal court and said it was non-dischargeable.
At that point, it wasn't.
They got that through.
Judge Lopez washed his hands and paunched his pilot and literally sent me off to be crucified.
That's fine.
The good news is I'm not a high roller.
And with Texas laws and things, I can have a house, a car, whatever, sponsors, all the rest of it.
Challenging Official Narratives 00:15:44
alex jones
I'll be able to travel working and covering things.
I'll be an employee.
I'll be the news director of the Allison's Network.
They're going to attack that, but it's all 100% real companies, real money, real people, not me.
And they'll just run into a brick wall and they'll depose me all the time and harass my family and everything.
And that's fine.
I know you're scum.
I know you're globalist.
And so quite frankly, this morning when I was doing my sixth set of deadlifts, six reps with a heavy poundage, I was just thinking about how you want to crush me when I did 500 setups two days ago on top of the hour-long workout.
I was doing them for you because you want to take me down.
You want me to be weak?
So that's the opposite.
You're going to get my full force resistance because I know we're critical in this fight.
We got people counting on us to stand up to the tyrants.
But in closing, I want to shift gears here with you, Viva.
This is so oppressive and so draconian and so un-American.
And like you have similar laws in Canada, it's all out of British common law.
This really overturns the Magna Carta that's a thousand years old.
You're supposed to get a jury trial.
I mean, they finally came to the king and said, we're going to have juries, dude.
You're not all powerful or we're going to cut your head off.
So in the UK is getting rid of jury trials to a great extent.
This is a real crisis.
And they want to set precedent.
They've said with my name demonized, believing that a bunch of insulated judges that still are in the corporate bubble think, well, Alex Jones is so demonized, we're not going to defend him.
What needs to be done about this?
I mean, this is a big deal.
People need to put pressure on the Trump administration, not just for us, folks, but for everybody, because this is happening.
viva frei
Well, I'd say interesting point, actually, just not to ignore.
This is the way for corrupt judges to bypass jury trials.
It's as if it wasn't already easy enough to stack a jury to take these cases in jurisdictions where you can make predictive guesses as to how a jury is going to lean.
This is how judges now have found the method to just bypass jury trials altogether.
We've seen them do it in defamation cases, but now it's like, all right, well, we don't need a jury because there's a default judgment.
Lindell, Giuliani, et cetera.
People do need to get mildly outraged about this.
And the Trump administration needs to get involved in this because I do wonder whether or not there's anything for Harmeet Dylan to potentially look into when we're talking about effectively constitutional violations that, you know, unreasonable fines.
I mean, it's just, you know, we say like, oh, it's a new standard.
It's inflation.
This is not just unheard of.
untethered from reality that you can just issue these orders of hundreds of millions of dollars in damages, punitive damages, 90 million.
alex jones
Wasn't it the Oxycontin settlement that killed hundreds of thousands of people around this number?
viva frei
I think it was less because I remember Rogan was talking about that.
And I think it was less, but even if it's the same and even if it's within the same ballpark, it's untethered from reality.
And like you say, this is a way of creating an indentured servant for the rest of your life.
And I'm reading some replies on Twitter where people are like, yeah, that's what you deserve.
That's what you get.
People with no principles don't object when injustices are carried out on their political adversaries.
And then they cry that nobody's defending them when they come to their front door because they will.
This is not about only the Alex Joneses.
This is a right about now about making sure everybody bites their tongue when challenging official government narratives because you might get sued.
You might get the FBI or maybe not this FBI, but maybe another FBI.
It's total.
alex jones
It's a total chilling effect.
So moving in now to the other law areas.
I told everybody it'd be Comey and then James.
And it wasn't just sources, but it was a lot of information.
Now it's looking like John Bolton and Jack Smith are next from all the intel I've got.
This is now where the Democrats openly call for, quote, forceful uprisings, violence.
unidentified
They're everywhere.
alex jones
Chuck Schumer, you name it.
Where do you see them going next?
That this is not the first Trump administration.
Yeah, it's still moving too slow, but it is moving.
viva frei
Well, and like I say, I've given Pam Bondi legitimate criticism on some cases where I think that she was too slow to get to the, you know, too slow to the ball.
Roger Veer, they've finally come to some deferred prosecution agreement.
That's Bitcoin Jesus.
Why the DOJ was even pursuing a Biden-era prosecution is beyond me.
With Douglas Mackey, they didn't get involved, but they got the right case for they got the right judgment from the Court of Appeal.
That was Ricky Vaughn, the meme master who was convicted for violation of election rights because of a meme.
Dr. King's.
alex jones
Think about Hillary Clinton.
viva frei
He made a joke that other people have made about texting in your vote.
Other people made the same joke.
It's still online.
They didn't get prosecuted.
Why?
Because it's capital D different.
Dr. Kirk Morse, she finally got involved, you know, a week into the trial, better late than never.
They've made some advances on finally, you know, indicting James Comey, not for his, what I believe to be a threat against the president, but for his other leaking classified information, which, again, dead to rights in any normal and perjuring himself, saying I never leaked.
alex jones
And then later he went, he went, I went after Trump.
I did the leaks.
I gave it to other people to leak.
That's like a mafia don telling a capo, tell a soldier, kill somebody.
He's just as guilty as the soldier.
viva frei
They were proud about it when they were handling the reins of power.
Now they're pretending they never said that they did what they said they did and what they in fact did.
And it wasn't the Harvard, not the Harvard.
It wasn't the Columbia law professor.
This was him authorizing leaks to the media during the Trump investigations back in 2016.
He did it.
He's a liar.
We all know that he did.
The only thing is, I think he should have gotten charged for inciting violence or threats, whatever with his 8647 nonsense.
Leticia James, again, dead to rights.
These are so people don't confuse the issues.
This is a case where she bought a secondary property for $100 and some odd thousand dollars and lied, or at least at the time, seemingly lied that it was going to serve as a secondary residence.
And then she turns around and uses it as a rental property.
So she gets beneficial interest rates from the mortgage company as a secondary property.
She gets cashback credits of whatever, a few thousand bucks, and she gets a more favorable insurance rate because it's a secondary residence and not a commercial rental property.
Then I think we found out that it's her criminal niece that might have been living there.
I might be wrong on that.
alex jones
Oh, no, no, it's packed full of absconders, people on the run.
viva frei
It's, it's, um, you know, it rights itself because it's so comedically stupid, but she is dead to rights because she lied on the document.
And when she took to Twitter to say no one is above the law, if you lie on a mortgage application, expect to have the book thrown at you.
And now these scumbag SOB double standard hypocrites are crying foul.
No one's above the law.
Let me say what Nancy Pelosi said.
Leticia can prove her innocence at trial.
I say tongue-in-cheek because guilt needs to be proven, not innocence at trial.
But these are the same scumbags who arrested Trump, arrested his lawyers, arrested anyone in his entourage, denied them of defenses, went after lawyers for actually just giving legal advice.
Now they're crying foul that this Leticia James, corrupt to the core, ran a campaign for attorney general on prosecuting an individual.
She would find the crime.
And remember, everybody, like I've said this a number of times on my channel, when she first ran, her theory of Trump's criminality was that he had to be laundering money from foreign governments because domestic banks wouldn't lend to him.
Well, that wasn't true.
So then she had to pivot and shift.
And then it was, oh, domestic banks are lending to him only because he lied.
unidentified
We forget.
alex jones
She goes, I'm going to find the Russians doing it.
And then, of course, Trump has a great lending record.
And Bar-Lago, he said, was worth $220 million.
unidentified
They say $18.
alex jones
Now it's worth a billion.
I mean, it's just ridiculous.
The loans were paid off.
viva frei
And so everybody understands this as well.
These are not comparable situations.
Leticia James is alleged to have lied to a Fannie Mae-backed mortgage institution.
That's government run.
So by her default, by her defrauding Fannie Mae out of proper interest rates, she's defrauding the people.
The bank with Trump were two sophisticated private actors coming to their own decisions.
No one was defrauded.
alex jones
Yeah, let's be clear.
Let's be clear because I've had mortgages before and you get an assessment, you bring it, and the bank, both times I got mortgages years ago, they're like, yeah, that's that's right.
unidentified
Boom.
alex jones
Because I didn't bring them a fake thing.
unidentified
They could look at it.
alex jones
I mean, it's like they accepted it.
I mean, of course, Mar-Lago was worth $200 million.
viva frei
Not just that they accepted it, but if they decided to take less profit because they wanted to do business with Trump, which they did, which was what they said, that's between them.
But Fannie Mae, a government-backed institution, if you deny Fannie Mae of profits, you're denying the government of profits.
And so that is something that actually impacts the people.
So they're not even analogous in terms of the accusations.
But Fannie Mae is, in my humble opinion, she was a corrupt criminal from when she started running for AG on the basis of prosecuting an individual.
She got away with it.
She got elected and she did it.
And then they went and manufactured a crime out of thin air.
alex jones
And by the way, let's be clear.
The Virginia thing is the low-hanging fruit where they had a prosecutor ready to go and had the indictment.
The New York stuff, all of it, like, oh, it's a single dwelling.
There's five apartments in it.
I mean, the fraud just skyrockets from there.
unidentified
Yeah.
viva frei
Well, the issue might be statute of limitations on those and other defenses that she might be able to raise.
But like, this is what you scratch the surface with these criminals and you'll find, you know, criminality everywhere.
What's his face?
Adam Schiff doing the exact same thing.
Lisa Cook doing the exact same thing.
And I'm sitting here.
Like, I'm not a, I'm not a millionaire by any means.
So like 20,000 bucks, which is what she's alleged to have benefited from the lies.
I mean, it's a lot of money, but what's the price of your soul?
They don't, you know, my revelation is they don't do it for the money because, you know, she is corrupt to the court.
She'll find other ways to get money.
They do it as a as a power flex.
Like, I can get away with it.
Therefore, I'm going to do it because I'm that powerful and nobody is.
alex jones
We know why you went after Trump for real estate fraud is because she's a master of it.
unidentified
She knew.
viva frei
I mean, this is the, you know, they say the iron law of woke projection.
The way she was describing in elaborate detail what Trump, she alleged Trump did, which he didn't do, she only knew it because it was off the back of her hand because she had done it.
Lisa Cook declaring two primary residences, Adam Schiff declaring two primary residences.
You don't need to be a lawyer to know you can't do that.
alex jones
IU CPAs and lawyers, none of them will even do that.
I mean, it's like, it's like the idea they'll just like CNN said, everybody engages in mortgage fraud.
unidentified
No, we don't.
viva frei
No, we don't.
Not necessarily because we have a fear of God, but we might have a fear of the government.
And like, it's the easiest thing to, if they want to find a crime, and this is where they're going to find it.
But it is just totally ironic that she knew exactly how to do it because she was doing it.
alex jones
Well, I'm not going to put on IRS forms.
I've had two houses at a time, a lake house in the house.
I didn't go say both were my primary residents going to tax write-off.
I mean, I just don't engage in fraud, but plus it's completely obvious.
viva frei
But listen, like, also, she's lucky there wasn't a claim in the property because an insurance company will deny coverage.
Oh, I'm sorry.
You said this was a secondary residence.
You have apparently potentially criminals renting this out as a commercial rental property.
We're not covering you anymore.
Enjoy your $118,000 loss.
I mean, it's from a mere liability perspective, you wouldn't do it, let alone from a morality perspective.
But they have no morality and they had no fear of liability because they were in control.
alex jones
Well, they're also, I'm too busy to even come up with fraud.
Like you said, every one of them, you look at it says he's involved in fraud on, it's like they just, they love it.
They just, it's like, I guess it's a criminal brain.
They like learn, how do I break the law?
How do I even, you know?
viva frei
To me, it's just a matter of principle.
It's a matter of power to them.
Like they, they, they do it because they can get away with it and it's a sign of their power.
It's like, sort of like with Hillary Clinton, you know, the true power is not just your ability to lie.
It's the fact that you know other people are going to lie for you in your defense.
That's power.
And these people had the reins of power forever from Comey to Schiff to who's going to be next?
Bolton?
I mean, Bolton.
When he comes out and talks about the value of not disclosing classified intel, the MoFo was doing it himself knowingly.
And it's just like they see this and accuse others of doing it because it's.
alex jones
Oh, that was the best part of sir.
This is weaponization.
How dare you?
And they're all sent when meanwhile, they're like saying we are going to weaponize.
We're going to find something and put him in prison.
So, so what do you make of all their pushes?
LA County and others declaring emergency saying they're going to legally defend illegals, pay for their rent, give them money, and that they're now in an emergency.
They're announcing a Western alliance.
They're going to rise up.
They're going to fight.
Where do you see this going?
viva frei
Well, I mean, I see it going to a political disaster.
They've made it clear that they are, they being capital D Democrats, they have a greater interest in defending literal illegal aliens, literal criminals than their actual constituents.
They don't mind if the fire hydrants are running dry and they don't have fire equipment because they've donated it to Ukraine while the palisades burn.
They don't mind that, but they're going to fight tooth and nail to go get Kilmar Brego Garcia back from El Salvador and elect Zohran Mamdani who's going to go defend Leticia James.
So continue doing it.
alex jones
That's right.
They come up with the craziest worst PR you could as well.
viva frei
Well, on the internet, there's a thing called audience capture.
And it's a dangerous thing because A, you end up with a very concentrated type of audience that is not there for any loyal purpose.
They're there because they expect something from you.
What these politicians are going to end up with very quickly is an audience capture or a constituents capture where the only people who are going to be supporting them anymore are the most violent, virulent, vitriolic loons out there.
And the second they don't do the bidding of the people that they have now captured as their audience, they're going to turn on them too.
And so look, it's all fun and games to say, I'm defending Letitia James and this is all political witch hunt.
They had no problem with it when it was directed at Trump.
They had no problem with going after the licenses of the John Eastmans and the Jeff Clarks and the Jenna Ellises.
They had no problem going after the licenses of Trump's lawyers for doing nothing else.
alex jones
Well, let's not forget when Trump got re-elected almost a year ago now, the Democrat Party officially put out statements saying, any lawyers help him or work for him.
We're going to disbar you.
And when we get back in, we're going to put you in jail.
And Akeem Jeffries said it three weeks ago.
They're publicly threatening everyone.
viva frei
It's Klan behavior.
And it's not an accident either that, you know, people seem to forget before the switching of the parties that the Democrats founded the Klan.
This is the tactic.
It's harassment.
It's so that people don't even want to be in the orbit of the people who might be the targets.
No, but it's look, they're going to keep doubling.
alex jones
They're terrorizing people.
viva frei
It's political terrorism.
It's ideological terrorism and it's manifested now into action.
alex jones
So where do you see with Antifa being declared domestic, about to be declared international, the left saying they don't exist?
Well, I've been hit over the head by them and reporters been attacked and I know they're real.
They're all the place.
unidentified
Where do you see a logo?
viva frei
They have a logo.
How does something that doesn't exist have a branded logo?
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viva frei
It's stupid talk.
Sorry to interrupt you.
alex jones
No, I mean, well, where do you think their ace in the hole is uprisings?
I don't see it being successful, but they're going full ahead with this.
viva frei
Well, the designation is a domestic terrorist group.
It carried some weight, but certainly not as much as the designation of an international or an international terrorist group.
They're going to go after the funding, and you're going to find out that when there's no funding for this, when there's no funding for the agitation, no funding for the actual participation, it's going to quell down.
And when there's actual prosecution for the actual violence, people are going to think twice before throwing their lives away over some brainwashed ideological purpose.
So they'll double down, triple down because it's all that they do.
But designated an international terrorist organization, you have many, many laws that apply specifically to that.
Go after the funding.
Go after potential.
You want to talk about legit bona fide RICO suits?
Go after the Soros Foundations that are funding these things, RICO lawsuits, because it is objective criminality.
And you will see it subdue very quickly.
They've got another three years.
They've got to start moving, which is why, you know, give credit where credit's due, but keep pressure on before I forget, Also, like you say, I support the Trump administration as well.
Support doesn't mean shutting your mouth when you think they're making a mistake.
Support doesn't mean that.
alex jones
It's not known anti-va leaders.
It's always academics fleeing the U.S. because they know they're, we've got the documents.
They know it's coming out.
viva frei
It's coming.
It's been known for a long time.
The stronger the denial that it doesn't exist, it's just an idea is a confirmation of the existence and the structure.
So we've known it.
We've all known it for a long time.
alex jones
Let's be clear.
When the Democrats have rallies in Austin and you get 5,000 of them out, because the funding's going to obviously be like 20,000, half of them are dressed up like Antifa.
Okay.
And literally wearing pentagrams saying we're going to kill you.
You know, we love Satan.
I mean, go.
The videos are, I mean, Savannah Hernandez has been beat up by him 10 times.
I mean, they attack our, we don't have an armored vehicle to go cover them.
And they're like literally saying this thing doesn't exist.
They're all over the place.
viva frei
I mean, up in Canada, it's, I won't even say, I won't say it's even worse, but it's there.
It's a known thing.
It has historical origins.
It has financial structure.
It's got uniforms.
It's got logo.
It's got branding.
It's got people online proudly saying that they're members of, founders of.
To deny, I mean, look, it's like Chernobyl level denial of reality.
alex jones
And that's sort of, you know, they firebomb federal buildings and burn down police stations in Atlanta, but they don't exist.
viva frei
So they're going to go after it.
It's going to, you know, you go after the funding and things will settle down sooner than later.
And you put people in jail because what's been happening, unfortunately, under the prior administrations that deny its existence while simultaneously bailing them out of jail, they've had the political permission slip to wreak havoc.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
alex jones
Let's not forget.
Kamala fundraised to bail them out.
viva frei
Well, she didn't know which organizations they were fundraising or who they were bailing out.
Bull crap.
This was organized domestic terror and it has international roots and international funding.
So they will get to it, but they've got to start moving.
Look, they got a flag with a logo.
I wonder if it's trademarked.
It doesn't exist, though.
And no, no, but it's a step in the right direction.
So we'll see.
alex jones
Footage of them attacking federal police with flamethrowers.
And the judges let them out.
Plus, I don't want to attack anybody with a flamethrower, but the feds aren't usually wimps on average.
Let me say this.
If anybody else, a right-winger, tried the flamethrower or hit a cop over the head with a hammer, you're going to have your neck broken.
I mean, you're going to wish you were dead.
And the feds are so scared of them, they run from them because they know they'll be prosecuted.
viva frei
If it were anyone on the right, we saw what the sentences they were handing down for the Jan 6 insurrection.
And I'm putting that in quotes because it was a Fed surrection.
They did like 5, 10, 20 years for alleged assaults on police officers when the Molotov cocktail throwing lawyers out of New York.
What do they get?
They actually had their plea deal reduced by the judge, I think.
You know, there's obviously there was a double standard for a long time.
And now the ones crying political persecutions just can't even accept an even-handed application of the law.
It's, you know, they said when Trump got elected the second time and the miracle that it was for having dodged that bullet, no pun intended, you know, the responsible parent is back in charge of the family.
And sure as sugar, the kids that have been eating marshmallows and, you know, not putting dishes away are going to complain now at the injustice.
But there will be order.
It's got to happen sooner than later because three years goes by fast.
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All right.
I know you got to go.
alex jones
And your good buddy and co-host, Robert Barnes, has come up at six after, but we got to go to break.
I want to just do five more minutes while we're getting Barnes on.
I want to talk about other issues that you see going on.
Positive things you see, negative things, but also they're now saying Russia's going to attack Europe.
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alex jones
Secret troops.
Sounds like false flag, Phil, to me.
It's not.
And then Russia says it's going to be a false flag.
And now they've gotten to fever pitch.
But I know you do a bunch of different shows.
I watch a lot of them.
How do people find all the different broadcasts you're doing, Viva Fry?
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Live daily on Rumble, three o'clock every day.
Putting out the car vlogs because people like those.
And I also like getting into the car for some quiet.
So, you know, I'm across all platforms, but exclusive on Rumble at three o'clock daily.
And then the Viva and Barnes Sunday night show, six o'clock across all platforms.
No, Alex, the Russian false flag.
I mean, it's amazing.
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Oh, geez, the Syria.
I forget his name now.
Bashar Assad.
You know, gassing his own people at a time when there was strategically no point in doing it.
Right now, Russia, you know, winning all the time.
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Viva.
I mean, the Russians have been saying NATO wants to go to full war.
They'll want to do a false flag.
I've been saying it before the Russians.
And then a few weeks ago, oh, these drones came out of Russia, but then they proved they didn't.
You've had Ukraine shoot missiles into Poland, try to blame it on them.
NATO needs a pretext to send in a quarter million man peacekeeping force.
They've got conscription firing up.
Now you read the British news.
Prepare for Russia kamikaze drones to swarm Britain's skies.
Government warned Putin to deploy 2 million reservists to MeatGrinder with law change.
Sweden to begin stop piling food first time since Cold War, ahead of war.
So clearly this is coming to a head.
Where do you see all that going with Trump talking about Tomahawk cruise missiles to Russia to attack Russia?
viva frei
Yeah, no, Trump may or may not be bluffing with that, whether or not he thinks it's an effective bluff, separate issue.
Just remember what George Orwell said, everybody.
The war was never meant to be one.
It was meant to be continuous.
This war needs to go on forever.
The war between Israel and Hamas needed to go on forever because war has come to an end.
And then you actually have to start answering questions.
Then you actually have to start facing trials, literally.
In Russia, can you imagine it's as though Russia would need to do that?
There's no giving credit here.
This is a war.
But if Russia wanted to escalate to involve NATO, they could have done it a thousand times already in the last few years.
Who has been clearly trying to escalate to get NATO involved?
alex jones
Well, a drone is a perfect thing to blame on somebody.
They got nuclear submarines and hypersonic missiles.
Oh, but drones.
Remember, some drones have been popping up in Europe.
They go, oh, it's the Russians with no proof.
viva frei
Well, and bombs falling and killing Polish farmers.
And Ukraine is quick to blame Russia to trigger Article 5, NATO.
unidentified
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viva frei
And the whole blowing up of the Nord Stream pipeline, which the world seems to have moved on from, it's more of the same.
Like you said on my channel.
alex jones
You said it was the Russians when Biden did it.
robert barnes
No, no, of course.
viva frei
But Alex, you said it on my channel.
It's the thing I remember from like years ago.
It's the same trick over and over again.
What surprises you is that they use the same tricks over and over again.
Whether or not you believe it was a false flag in Syria, the strategic wisdom of gassing people when you're winning the war doesn't make sense.
Russia doesn't need to do any of this right now.
alex jones
The war is going, you know, Obama said my red line is gas.
Then a week later, gas gets launched in a part of the city, but the jihadists get money for that.
So they're Durka Durka Muhammad Jihad firing the chemical mortars, bragging they did it.
So, no, it was staged.
viva frei
I hope everyone gets the, that was South Park reference.
So, no, that was Team America reference.
alex jones
Same people, yeah.
I think.
Oh, you've got big balls.
unidentified
They dropped half out of my goats.
That's when I declared a jihad on their ass.
alex jones
It's not about sex, Gary.
Now, suck my cock.
viva frei
That's the thing.
I have to wait for my kids to be old enough before I can watch that one.
alex jones
That is in the top.
That deserved major Academy Awards.
It never gets old.
viva frei
AIDS.
unidentified
Everybody's got AIDS.
viva frei
I use that.
alex jones
The Speaker's Guild is called FAG.
And you've got Kim Jong-un.
unidentified
Oh, Alec Baldwin.
viva frei
In the one minute that I have left, I need to bring everyone's attention to the channel.
alex jones
Sorry.
viva frei
Kim Jung.
It'll be remiss.
unidentified
What is it?
viva frei
It will be remiss of me if I don't mention the ostrich scandal going up on Canada that has now entered the month of the government trying to kill these ostriches because they-I'll do this.
alex jones
I will have you back tomorrow on the ostriches.
I know you want to come on about it.
It's important because it shows with bird flu and all the excuse of the power grab.
And it's the same program here.
It's a big deal.
So why don't you come back for 30 minutes?
We'll call it Ostrich Gate tomorrow.
viva frei
Like it.
We'll do it.
alex jones
All right, tomorrow the next day.
And by the way, Nick Fuentez's studio tomorrow.
He's in town.
We're talking about that.
Viva Fry, we love you.
And all I ask is when we relaunch the network, I need to go on everybody's show and promote it because everybody's going to be saying, where's the show?
InfoWars is gone.
viva frei
Open invitation anytime, every time.
We'll do it.
alex jones
30 minutes tomorrow on Ostrich Gate.
viva frei
Sounds good.
alex jones
Send us all.
They're literally slaughtering all of them.
They're not even sick.
viva frei
They haven't even killed them yet, but they're on the verge.
So it's a life or death battle.
alex jones
I've seen some footage where they are killing them.
I guess it's somewhere else.
We'll be right back.
Thank you.
You know, I want to say I've dropped the ball on Zoran Mondami.
I mean, I've talked about him.
He's got the Social Democrats funding him.
He's the model of the Islamic takeover.
They've done it in Europe.
They're doing it in Canada.
They're doing it all over the U.S. But the latest thing he did, it just pisses me off.
Flipping off Christopher Columbus statues when Europeans historically had the lowest level of slavery and involvement in slavery.
And we've been heavily involved in it.
But if there was like MVPs, it's the Muslims.
And they're currently doing it.
So I'm going to get to that in a minute.
Robert Barnes is connecting right now.
But this is a big deal with the Supreme Court not hearing our case because it went through the first two layers of lawyers to the Supreme Court.
Defaulted for Evidence 00:15:41
alex jones
95% of the stuff gets rejected, literally.
Doesn't make it past the first or second hurdle.
The lawyers thought it was important because what they did is like the most illegal insane crap ever and it sets a precedent and they're doing it to everybody now.
Just the judge finds you guilty.
But you got to read our Supreme Court briefing.
In fact, it's amazing because even when I read it, I can't believe how we were violated what they claimed.
We were defaulted for not giving him evidence.
Not giving them evidence that didn't exist.
Anybody that works here knows that like we're not like calling sponsors up and say, I'm going to hit this story, sponsor.
We're coordinating with you.
The news I cover has nothing to do with the particular thing I'm covering.
I mean, it's just, it's insane.
And that was explained, and we gave them all the stuff.
And that was one of the reasons.
The other thing is we wanted to depose Hillary because it came out that she was involved with the feds.
And so they said, that's it.
You know, you won't do that.
So now the judge finds you guilty.
This is the crap they pull.
So here's a short clip of Harrison Smith explaining it.
I think he did a great job.
Here it is.
harrison smith
This, according to Grock, is why we received a default judgment.
We're not allowed to defend ourselves.
Jones was ordered in 2019 and 2020 to produce financial records, web analytics, like Google Analytics, and marketing data showing how InfoWars profited from Sandy Hook content.
They wanted us to provide them evidence that we were guilty.
By mid-2021, he turned over only sanitized or partial records, e.g., fragmented sales figures with no context about Sandy Hook-related revenue.
Well, we don't have context about Sandy Hook-related revenue.
We talk about all sorts of things.
Our callers call in and bring something up.
People go to the store sometimes.
They don't go to the store other times.
It just has no bearing on what we cover, how we cover it.
For instance, in a June 2021 hearing, they argued he hadn't disclosed contacts or communications with advertisers tied to Sandy Hook broadcasts.
What the hell does that mean?
We haven't disclosed contacts with advertisers about Sandy Hook.
We don't have advertisers.
We don't have any contacts with advertisers.
We have the Alex Jones store.
Back then, we had the Infowar store.
We had maybe a gold person or whatever.
But again, they're asking for something that doesn't exist.
And then they're default, giving us a default judgment when we don't provide the records that don't exist.
Got the crew that produces the show.
I gather all the news.
We just, it's all free form.
It's all spur of the moment, edge of the seat.
I mean, that's how we do things.
There's no logins doing things that way.
Then they go in and say, well, where's your internal communications?
Where you talk about how covering Sandy Hook gets you more money.
What?
It doesn't exist.
Oh, you're withholding that, are you?
Default judgment.
We own your life now.
That's literally what happened.
All right.
Either give us things that prove you're guilty or we will declare you're guilty.
alex jones
And now they just defaulted myself.
harrison smith
For the iceberg, folks.
alex jones
For $1.5 billion, a federal judge said smartmatic machines cannot be hacked.
Literally, I read the ruling yesterday on there with Linnell.
He said, he's not even a software engineer.
He just says, I find you guilty.
You cannot hack computers.
It's like saying a bear can't take a shit in the woods.
I mean, it is, it is, oh, 1.5 billion.
But now they're going to have a jury decide that if it was malice, even more.
So you're benchmarked guilty.
And now we're going to decide how guilty.
And for the public, we'll give you a show trial where the jury tells you you're guilty.
So this is a seismic event by the Supreme Court.
They did this to Giuliani, everybody else.
And where's the Trump administration?
Where is Todd Blanch, who I'm not trying to be enemies with?
And Ed Martin didn't tell me bad things about him.
But I bring up all my stuff to Ed Martin.
He's at the weaponization task force.
And we've got all the proof of the Justice Department funding all this, admitting it.
He was the one interested in it.
He starts an investigation, basic, you know, told them to preserve their records.
It wasn't just the lawyer you saw, some other stuff.
And they completely flipped out because this is the Justice Department protecting itself.
And so I don't want to spend the whole hour with Robert Barnes on this because I want to pick his brain on a whole bunch of other subjects, but this is a really, really, really big deal.
And Barnes actually worked on the case early on.
And he said, look, it's totally rigged.
They're just going to default you and shut you down.
It doesn't matter what you do.
And he said, so, you know, that's the way it is.
And I actually knew he was right because the other lawyers in the case were like, well, it doesn't matter if you don't have marketing.
We got to give them some marketing.
They said, give them your plug sheets, which is just whatever the sale is.
Today, a free hat with every order, $25 off, and then talk about the products.
It has nothing to do with the content of what we do.
It's completely straight because this is talk radio.
That's what I started out on is talk radio.
And people just get good talk show hosts, whether it's sports or news or gardening or whatever that know the subject that people like.
And you come on, you talk.
And then that's it.
And I guess it's a gardening show.
They usually own a gardening nursery and they sell dirt and tulips or something.
I mean, here it's like we sell what's hot, supplements, patriot gear, stuff like that.
It has nothing to do.
But they have this theory, the statute of limitations was up and all this stuff, that it was unfair marketing fraud.
And so they went with this thing that I made all this money, made no money, barely ever talked about these people.
They raised hundreds of millions off my name on record.
We now know because we sued them and got the documents saying I was persecuting them.
So everything you hear is the opposite, but it's not about me.
This is a very dangerous precedent.
And now they have the onion that's funded by Bloomberg bragging that they're going to come into the state court and have the judge that I guess controls the receiver or whatever, just give them for no money again, like they tried to federal court, this place so they can misrepresent and confuse people using my logos, my face.
100%, they're not going to get away with it.
And they don't control all the courts.
So we're suing them.
We're already suing them.
And that's why it's important to fund us.
Not just stay on the air, but we're going on full offense.
And I've got lawyers that have won major defamation cases and other cases.
They say this is pure abusive process, which is not a sexy word, but that's illegal.
It's a very sexy thing.
And so it's on, baby.
And then everybody thinks we're invincible because we survived so many years of this.
There's no more moves.
And so the receiver was here last week.
He'll be here next Monday.
I'm like being completely polite, have some coffee.
Okay, great.
All right.
All right.
Well, okay, what's the date?
And we're Cyanara.
You're the last broadcaster.
Okay.
So that's it.
That's all she wrote.
But the name InfoWars, just because the onion wants to steal it, the former MSNBC head censor that runs it, he said, if I, they said on an interview a month ago on Wired, he said, if I was God for today, my main desire is I want InfoWars.
And he says in interviews, I want to confuse people and be Alex Jones.
And they said last year in a court filing in federal court, they were trying to get my name.
They said that they own my name, Alex Jones.
They said, yes, the 13th Amendment against slavery applies to everybody else, but Jones is a special case with no evidence.
Elon Musk had to come in and block him.
So they're using me to try to set precedents undreamed of, as Robert Burns warned many years ago.
So a very popular podcaster, great historian, wonderful lawyer, good friend of mine, at Barnes underscore law on X. And of course, he co-hosts with Eva Fry, great broadcast as well.
Robert, that's kind of my lay breakdown of this.
But, you know, my lawyers were devastated because they thought it would be refused by the first committee and then the lawyers.
When it got to the Supreme Court, they thought, well, certainly when they see this presentation where I'd say people died at Sandy Hook, but some people think it's a synthetic event.
And we can show how, I didn't even say what they said, that it was just devastating.
And no, they kicked it out with no comment.
They were, I told them, I said, it will not happen because of political cowardice.
So that's my take on it.
I don't want to spend the whole interview on this, but it's good to see you.
What do you make of this?
How big a deal is this?
robert barnes
Well, it's a very perilous precedent being set, and it parallels various times in American legal history, beginning of the country, again in the buildup to the Civil War, again during the labor disputes of the late 19th century, and again during the civil rights controversies of the mid-20th century, where our legal system itself, our courts themselves, became complicit violators of civil rights.
Indeed, the Civil Rights Act of 1871 exists because of the abuse of power by state court judges in complicity with the Ku Klux Klan.
So what you people are seeing right now with federal judges siding with Antifa, protecting Antifa in Portland, Oregon and Chicago, Illinois, is a broad indicator, just like they're protecting illegal immigrants run by drug cartels, as cartels are putting out bounties on ICE officers in the United States as that effective domestic, as that effective war continues.
All of it represents and reflects a judicial system that has gone AWOL, that has absconded from its constitutional obligations and is facilitating and enabling the most dangerous violations of our civil rights that can occur.
And when the judiciary is the violator of civil rights, where do you go for relief?
Where do you go for remedy?
Because they're the ones that are supposed to be the only institution intended for relief and remedy from the violation of civil rights.
What happens when it's the judges violating it?
And as a backstory, for those that don't know the whole story, I came and investigated the whole Sandy Hook case on behalf of Alex to make a First Amendment challenge, which we brought up at the Texas Supreme Court, sat on their lazy rears and didn't take the case.
Hopefully someday they will.
I think they will ultimately say, oh, this was a complete, the hoax was the law, was the lies about and libels about Alex Jones related to this from the beget-ko.
alex jones
And by the way, you didn't just believe me.
You came in here for, you were here for months.
You lived here.
unidentified
You dug through everything.
alex jones
You were laughing like the idea that we had marketing on them or something.
Yeah.
robert barnes
Yeah, it was all nuts.
I mean, the reason why I told you the get-go, that they were going to try some trick to make sure you never got a trial on the merits.
alex jones
No, you said to me years before it happened, you said, there's no evidence.
They're going to try a trick and say you're defaulted.
unidentified
You called it.
robert barnes
Yeah, and the reason was their whole theory was false.
Their whole theory was that Alex Jones and InfoWars made a bunch of money going around saying Sandy Hook never happened.
99% of what InfoWars published concerning Sandy Hook acknowledged it happened.
One of the leading critics of any questioning of Sandy Hook in certain aspects was the editor of InfoWars, Paul Joseph Watson.
It's almost all the public.
When you went live the night of Sandy Hook, you didn't second guess Sandy Hook at all.
What you said was they're going to cover up the role of SSRIs.
They're going to cover up the role of bad psychological care.
They're going to cover up the lack of adequate security for these young kids.
They're going to cover up those things in order to, they're going to cover up.
alex jones
And they said that for the first year until it became a big internet thing questioning it.
And then we simply had debates with different people from different newspapers, pro and con.
We had a couple debates.
robert barnes
Oh, exactly.
In fact, of the million plus words published or broadcast by InfoWars, 99% of it completely did not dispute whether Sandy Hook occurred.
alex jones
And I love it.
The publisher said, I sold out and said it happened later.
I always said I think it happened.
That's how crazy it is.
Just because the news publishes that Trump says, I love the KKK, where's the clip?
He never said it.
robert barnes
Oh, completely.
And so when I realized that their entire case was the opposite of what they were pitching, that they knew the actual evidence would exonerate you and exculpate you and not incriminate you.
Then they, because they had this fictional, fabricated, fantastical model of who Alex Jones was being portrayed in shows like Homeland on Showtime that's all driven by money, that you'll capitulate as soon as you lose any money that they thought that was your motive.
All of it was bogus.
All of it was garbage.
Their own data, their own information proved it was garbage.
So what did they have to do?
They had to make a fake case that they had to pretend the facts were otherwise.
So what they did is Harrison well detailed, they demanded, and this is what I predicted they would do, unfortunately, is like, they're going to pretend you have evidence you don't have, and then they're going to demand you produce the evidence you don't have.
And when you don't produce the evidence you never had, they're going to use that as an excuse to default you.
And it was clear.
And I was getting into that.
alex jones
There's this pre-planning.
We haven't talked in like three, four months on the phone.
I just say, get Barnes on.
They were like, what do you do with the host?
How do you pre-plan?
I've seen Harris said, how's your wife and kids?
I haven't talked to Harris in a month for more than two minutes.
He's just about to be hosting a show.
This idea that we like pre-plan everything, it's a total fraud.
robert barnes
Oh, absolutely.
And not only that, they knew from the actual data that when you track the information, this information was given to them and they tried to bury it, which was that when Sandy Hook was even brought up as a topic at all, it led to negative reactions in your audience.
Not a positive reaction.
You asking questions about it was not favorable to your bottom line or Infowars support at all.
And that was clear in the affirmative data.
So they knew their whole story was a lie.
Their big story was a big fact fiction.
That the hoax of Sandy Hook is the lies that have been told about you related to Sandy Hook.
unidentified
And let's be clear.
alex jones
I don't manipulate the audience.
I just go with what I think's right.
If I wanted to have the show 10 times bigger, I would just cover positive news and winning and show videos making fun of liberals.
But I want to warn about real threats, uprisings.
People don't, most of the audience doesn't actually like to hear the bad news.
The secret of this broadcast is we don't follow ratings.
unidentified
We follow the truth.
alex jones
And over the long term, though, we get the hardcore viewers.
But yeah, the idea that I tailor stuff for what the audience wants, that has not, I just, what I think is right, I cover it.
robert barnes
Oh, exactly.
There is no audience capture.
There never has.
Indeed, the reason for most of the people that tune in is respecting that.
That at times when they've been enraged at something you said, they learned to respect the fact that they were getting your honest, authentic opinion.
Might not always be right, but it's way above the batting average for everybody else in this space.
But they respect not only the accuracy of the information, but the authenticity of it.
And anybody who had watched Alex Jones and Infowars would know that.
But the evidence was all there.
So when I started digging through all the evidence, I mean, they wanted emails sent through the trash.
I mean, they did everything to disguise and hide what the case was about.
alex jones
Most of the detections were.
The judgments were unopened emails that lunatics sent us.
Perp Walked Sabotage 00:15:36
robert barnes
Exactly.
That's exactly right.
And they were pretending that had something to do with it.
It had nothing to do with it.
So it was all fiction.
It was all fabricated.
It was an abusive process at its core.
And the judges were the lead complicit culpable actors.
So much so when I say actors, I mean literally actors because this judge was being brought in a HBO documentary film to film the show trial.
And that's what it was.
That's what Mike Lindell is being subject to up in Minnesota, show trial.
They're taking the Soviet stasi Cuban techniques of show trials and they're incorporating them into American justice.
And it is an utter disgrace.
We've had examples of it in history, but luckily very few in American law.
And now they're coming back full throttle and they're going to keep coming at this level.
That's why the judges themselves, an honest civil rights inquiry by the Justice Department would not be limited to the corrupt and rogue lawyers in this case.
And those funding them, it would include the state court judges themselves.
alex jones
Well, that's what was going to happen.
I can tell you exclusively.
They were looking at the courts.
Why do you think Todd Blanch shut this down?
robert barnes
Todd Blanch is a corporate whore, New York Democrat lawyer who weaseled his way into Trump world because he saw a big fat check coming from President Donald Trump by defending him.
I saw no efficacy in his advocacy to be blunt about it.
I saw nothing special that he did in those New York cases in the court of public opinion or in the courts of law or in front of the judge or the jury to suggest he has any special skill set, least of all loyalty to President Trump.
He's part of long old established corporate defense white shoe law firms in New York, the same kind of law firms that were complicit in going after you.
Not only in this case, in the Pepe case and a bunch of other cases.
I mean, he's connected to law firms that spent millions of dollars coming going after you related to the Pepe case out of their own pocket.
So I have no confidence in Todd Blanche.
Todd Blanch is the guy who bragged about the idiocy of the Epstein cover-up that they snookered Trump into doing.
So I have no, there's no reason to trust.
alex jones
He's the one that convinced Trump to cover up something he's not involved in has been proven.
unidentified
That's exactly right.
alex jones
This guy's like the plague.
robert barnes
Completely, completely.
I mean, Pam Bondi is just, I think, in over her head, but I don't think she has bad intentions.
I do think Todd Blanch has bad intentions.
That New York Times piece, you know, it wouldn't shock me at all if Todd Blanche is one of the sources for that piece.
Well, publicly said, oh, no, it's all false, nothing else.
Everything about it screamed.
That's the kind of guy he is.
He's angling to be the attorney general.
He's the second coming of Bill Barr.
There's nothing about that.
alex jones
Documents now leaked an undercover video.
Bill Barr going around while he's the attorney general setting up the indictments of Trump.
So this is Bill Barr's baby.
Todd Blanche is literally the spawn of Bill Barr.
robert barnes
And ideologically and intellectually and politically and philosophically, absolutely.
And I read that New York Times piece as him getting out there.
He's doing the best he can and trying to weasel it, trying to protect the deep state.
Why was James Comey prosecuted the last possible minute?
Mike Davis keeps running around Steve Bannon saying there's these big efforts to investigate.
Hey, that, you know, Obama's about to be indicted.
Hillary's about to be indicted.
I see no evidence of that.
None.
I hope Clapper doesn't know.
alex jones
Why is the New York Times writing kissy-kissy things about Todd Blanche?
robert barnes
Exactly.
Well, you know, why does he love to hang out with Caitlin Collins at the CNN and have special dinner after Trump got elected?
I mean, there's nothing in this guy.
Where's the civil rights background in this guy?
Tell me about the great civil rights cases he's taken.
Tell me about the cases that he's taken against the government, against big corporations, against powerful institutions in the civil context.
Tell me the cases where he's gone after the Southern District of New York, because I know of none.
I know of none.
I mean, I've been in this case.
alex jones
This is Trump's blind spot because it was his criminal lawyer who lost all his cases.
And now, literally, here it goes again.
Trump's done.
Look, we love Trump, but what the hell's going on with Todd Blanch?
robert barnes
Trump keeps looking for Roy Cohn.
And because of how he got burned with Sessions, which was due to things that, you know, some of us told him were going to happen with Sessions.
Sessions wasn't a treasonous person at all or a seditious person at all.
He just had a misplaced confidence in the Justice Department.
But it led to the betrayal of President Trump's.
alex jones
Sessions was naive.
robert barnes
Exactly, exactly.
He was an idealist.
He's like some of the lawyers you had to deal with in your case.
They were saying, oh, no, the legal system's okay.
Just produce something, Alex.
It's all going to be all right.
And I was getting into arguments with him all the time saying, you don't understand how political cases work.
This is the nature of it.
And so he looks for loyalist.
And I understand that instinct.
The problem is loyalty doesn't always equal competency.
Loyalty doesn't always equal true.
alex jones
Loyalty.
Blanche acts like he's loyal, but he's clearly, he was hand-picked Southern District.
He's a leftist, chosen one.
unidentified
I mean, you know.
Exactly.
alex jones
Oh, my God.
robert barnes
I mean, I mean, I'll give him credit.
He weaseled his way into Trump world by saying by leaving his big white two corporate firm without much consequence, I might say.
alex jones
Oh, you know, they sent him in.
robert barnes
Exactly.
That's what it looks like to me.
It looks like they sent him in so that he could be the fit, you know, to weasel his way into Trump world and make sure that he could co-op power so that the Justice Department didn't bring real justice to the roads.
alex jones
Having all these lunches with CNN people is cool.
Here's the thing.
I don't think they realize their bubbles burst, Bob.
I don't think they realize it's over.
I mean, people are done with them.
I mean, it's over.
robert barnes
Oh, completely.
I mean, the Epstein disaster was so mishandled.
So it was, no matter what the objective was, it was so mishandled from a court of public opinion perspective that they have lost all confidence.
alex jones
I mean, they don't know it was Todd Blanche that convinced Trump to protect the deep state.
And then the Democrats turn around and stab him in the back when we have the main Epstein investigator get caught by Veritas undercover saying, no, Trump's not involved, but the CIA and Mossad asked him to cover it up.
unidentified
That's Todd Blanche.
alex jones
So literally, he convinced Trump to sign on to this that made Trump lose 10 points in the polls.
This guy is the plague.
I mean, it's true.
It'll come out.
rob dew
I also notice your cup is stained blue on the inside.
unidentified
I've been caught.
rob dew
You got a little, did you find some methylene blue floating around here?
unidentified
I did, man.
stewart rhodes
I commandeered some from Harrison's office.
rob dew
Yeah, it's Jonestargot.com.
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unidentified
Amen.
rob dew
I know Stewart's going to be looking for a bottle.
I'm going to go try to track one down for him.
robert barnes
If you don't mind, a bottle that I like.
rob dew
Oh, you like both?
What do you like better?
unidentified
You know what?
I like them both.
stewart rhodes
When I'm traveling, the pill is definitely easier.
rob dew
Yeah, it's not going to, you're not worried about it breaking open.
stewart rhodes
On the way over here, I took a couple while I'm driving.
unidentified
Yeah.
rob dew
So with driving, did you feel more alert while you were driving?
unidentified
Absolutely.
And I took a couple shots to Welman here in lieu of coffee.
You guys ran out of coffee?
rob dew
It's like, oh, you got some methylene blue.
That's all he needs, is a little methylene blue.
oliver anthony
I was hoping you had some of the Alex Jones ones.
unidentified
How is Alex?
He's great.
alex jones
He lost a lot of weight.
unidentified
I saw he's getting like, yeah, he's ready for the next.
scott bessent
My friend Sean Johnson's training him.
unidentified
Oh, really?
Yeah, he gets up every morning.
He works out for hours.
joe rogan
He's lost, I think he's lost 70 pounds at this point.
scott bessent
He looks fantastic, man.
unidentified
He looks fantastic.
robert barnes
He looks like he's 20 years younger.
viva frei
People think this is really funny because, you know, his whole business is conspiracy theories.
robert barnes
It's a conspiracy that Alex has been replaced.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
Listen, folks, that's real Alex.
I've watched every step of the way, and my friend trains him.
So I can tell you for a fact that is the real Alex Jones.
Quit drinking, quit eating bad food.
robert barnes
He's eating healthy food now.
unidentified
He works out every day.
It's like Noel's Empic, no shortcuts.
He did it the right way.
He looks great.
alex jones
You find it all at the onshowshore.com and it funds the most hardcore patriot organization worldwide.
Absolutely devastating the globalist in our peaceful information war.
unidentified
Holy sh.
robert barnes
He was right about every step of the way.
alex jones
So we have the deep state, all the documents, the witnesses, everything caught red-handed running the fake trials against me, trying to sabotage the sale, keep get us off air.
And then Ed Martin does his job.
It's his classic weaponization with the government against people.
Comes in, Todd Blanche blocks it.
And now, obviously, Blanche is gunning for Martin all the time.
Trump needs to obviously rearrange the situation here.
Because only when Trump got mad and sent that letter out on Monday and did all this and he finally gets some action and finally they were sitting on top of these indictments.
Now they say the indictment of Bolton is imminent.
Grand jury expected to indict ex-National Security Advisor John Bolton for transmitting classified document sources that we just already done.
Who else is on that list?
What is the deep state going to do?
And what should the message be to Trump about what he needs to do and not make the same mistakes he made eight years ago, Robert Marx?
robert barnes
You know, I would like Mike Davis to be right.
At least they're finally using the language that we've talked about for over a year now, which your case is emblematic of, but so are all these other cases, which is what really happened in Russia Gate, in Spygate, in Mullergate, in Ukraine Gate, in all of the weaponization of the legal system against President Trump once he was out of office.
All of that, the common pattern was an intention to deprive President Trump and many of his supporters of their federally protected civil rights.
This is what the Klan Act of 1871 is supposed to address.
It also addresses things like the Tran Tifa organized violence that's taking place in Portland or Chicago or that led to the murder of Charlie Kirk.
So it's all part of the same pattern intended to deprive ordinary and everyday Americans, including in this case, the president of the United States, from his own federally protected civil rights.
That gives venue and jurisdiction to the Southern District of Florida.
It allows the court case to be referred to as a related case.
So it goes to Judge Cannon, who has shown independence and impartiality and a willingness to stand up to the deep state, relative unique in the federal judicial branch.
So you can bring all the cases, the grand jury's there, the jury trials there, all of the bench presiding right there in front of that judge.
And that's what unites Obama, Clinton, Clapper, Brennan, Comey, all of them, the Bolton, you name it.
Now they have additional crimes on Comey, like perjury.
They have additional and false statements and obstruction of justice.
They have additional crimes on Bolton, like stealing classified information and leaking it and monetizing it for his personal self-enrichment.
I mean, a guy used AOL emails who still uses AOL email.
I mean, that's, I mean, and a foreign government hacked it.
I wonder who that might be.
But the, you know, it might point in a certain direction.
But we have those additional crimes, but what unites them all is the overarching conspiracy.
When they raided Trump's house, that was part of the conspiracy to strip him of his federally protected civil rights and to strip all of us of our federally protected civil rights to vote for whom we want for President of the United States.
Because that was the ultimate long-term objective was to derail that opportunity for the American voter.
That places jurisdiction and venue in the Southern District of Florida, in Palm Beach, where Judge Cannon should, as a related case matter, preside.
Then you don't have judicial corruption colluding up the case.
You don't have a bad jury pool.
You don't have a bad grand jury pool.
You don't have a bunch of prosecutors in that office trying to sabotage you on a daily basis.
One of the things Todd Blanche did that prevented real reform and remedy is he refused to go along with what many of us had said was necessary, was the mass firing of these rogue prosecutors, especially in the District of Corruption, where they ran Ed Martin out while he was trying to clean it up, and the Eastern District of Virginia.
It is leaking like a sieve.
How many of those prosecutors are sabotaging our own government cases on a daily basis?
And they were able to get it so that magically Comey is now assigned, just like Big Tisch.
Both of them got assigned liberal lefty Democratic judges by just random assignment.
I don't think so.
So the and that judge is already doing everything possible to make sure Comey never sees justice.
And then you have the Justice Department not making sure these guys got perp walked.
These are people that the, you know, generally speaking, I'm all in for summonses instead of arrest.
But in these high-profile cases, Democrats set the precedent over the last five years.
They said you got to raid him and you got to perp walk him in order to send the public message.
So hey, that's the rules they set.
We got to stick with those rules.
We can't now.
alex jones
They ordered the perp walks of us, so they got him down.
robert barnes
Exactly.
And the Democrats said that this is important in any high-profile political case.
You got to perp walk any individual defendant, no matter the nature of the case otherwise.
Well, that means Comey needed to be perp walked.
I mean, the Cauchy political betting markets still don't realize, yes, Cole Comey got arrested.
You can't get summons into a court.
He went, he got mugshot.
unidentified
The difference is the thing.
alex jones
Back to Todd Blanche.
I don't want to make him the enemy.
I wasn't told by Mark and everybody else.
They say he's the one.
They say Bonnie just does TV.
He really doesn't run anything.
They say he is in there sabotaging everything.
unidentified
He is the guy.
alex jones
And like, how do we get Trump to wake up out of this mind control?
robert barnes
I think he's just continuing to bring it into the court of public attention and continuing to promote those attorneys that are doing really good work.
So, you know, Assistant Attorney General Harmee Dillon at the Civil Rights Division is doing is doing God's work.
I mean, just this week, when my hometown school wanted to stop Turning Point USA from forming at the campus of UT Chattanooga, I raised the stink about it.
And to her credit, she stepped in and said she was monitoring the case.
As soon as that happened, UTC reversed its position.
That may lead to every public high school in the college that was trying to obstruct Turning Point, not being able to do so with just a single reply to a single tweet of mine.
alex jones
That's right.
So you need to come up with a list of people that we know are performing and doing their job and get it to Trump.
robert barnes
Exactly.
Gail Slater at AAG Antitrust doing God's work, doing great work.
Army Dylan, Ed Martin doing God's work and great work.
Army Dillon doing good, God, God's work and good work.
These are people that need to be elevated.
These are the people that need to replace, you know, appoint Blanche some ambassador, like they did with Sergio Gordon.
They sent him off to India so he gets Cavino in there.
So at least you had somebody that wasn't trying to antagonize the relationship between Trump and Elon Musk like Gore was doing on a daily basis.
Against somebody that's aligned with MAGA, not misaligned with MAGA.
alex jones
Now, I think as long as the good news: Todd Blanch can play his games, but when more indictments don't come quick enough and Trump learns, he's done.
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alex jones
That's exactly right.
And quite frankly, we had a good idea when this happened.
I'll leave it at that, that he was going to reveal himself through this.
So there's kind of wheels within wheels.
And so the little consolation prize was he did reveal himself.
And that's one more strike on him now.
robert barnes
Exactly.
And good work also by the Second Amendment groups.
Gun owners of America, these other groups calling out Blanche, who he, to my knowledge, he is the one bottlenecking the Second Amendment cases full review.
So the Justice Department is still joining, arguing for depriving people of their Second Amendment rights.
alex jones
So he's a leftist gun grabber blocking the Second Amendment reforms that have already happened in court.
unidentified
This is a nasty guy.
alex jones
And people that are defending him are brown-nosing him because I think they worry they've got cases on them.
He's going to protect them.
robert barnes
That's exactly what's going on.
I mean, you can't expect anybody within the Justice Department to come out publicly against Blanche.
That would be career suicide.
So I let them all off the hook.
But these other people like Mike Davis brown-nosing him.
Come on.
I mean, Davis is saying that there's going to be indictments on Clapper, Brennan, Ray, the Norm Eisen, and Obama and Clinton before, you know, very soon.
Well, when that doesn't happen, I want to see him go public and admit who the problem is because I get he's got cases in front of the Justice Department.
I got cases in front of the Justice Department.
I'm never going to shut my mouth on what is right and what is necessary for the country so I can line my own pocket or do something to do a special favor for I've never done that in my life, never gonna do it.
That's just not who I am.
So I get some lawyers feel pressure to do that.
That's how you get snookered into covering up incompetency, covering up someone who's endangering the federally protected civil rights of America, someone who is allowing the deep state to continue to conspire against President Trump and the United States of America.
alex jones
If Trump doesn't take action on this, but look at this headline.
Oh, DOJ leader shoot out MAGA operative over crusade to get revenge for Alex Jones.
We have the documents.
The DOJ illegally ran this and funded lawsuits to shut down a talk show host.
That's what the weaponization task force is supposed to do.
But they're all revenge for me.
Revenge for what?
robert barnes
That isn't revenge.
That is getting the legal system corrected, getting the corrupt actors out and making sure that the right people are held responsible so that our federally protected civil rights are still protected.
That's like pretending that the Klan Act, Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871, was some, the Civil Rights Act of 1871 was somehow a meant as revenge against the Confederacy in the South.
No, it was meant to protect black Southerners from being hung on the streets and having their civil rights protected everywhere in schools and businesses and everything else and voting and registering, et cetera.
They were systematically stripping them of those rights.
And that is what has been happening.
Lawfair has been stripping us of our rights to where you don't even feel safe and comfortable going on a college campus to debate because these Trantifa conspirators might murder you.
So do something about it.
And so far, Todd Blanche has done nothing about it but obstruct, obstruct, obstruct.
And if he wants to prove us all wrong, real easy, Todd, let's start seeing results.
And let's start seeing results quicker and sooner and earlier than we have seen so far.
I see no evidence that he's doing any of that.
Why did the newly appointed U.S. attorney of the Eastern District of Virginia, who was only appointed after Trump accidentally published a truth that he meant to personally send to Pam Bondi that called her out for this, got her appointed.
When she went after Letish James, she hid that, hid that from Todd Blanch.
This is now public.
Why did she feel the need to hide that from Todd Blanche unless Todd Blanche is the obstructor, the obstacle in all of this?
alex jones
The role of Trump puts her in because they already had the indictment and the other so-called Republican was blocking him.
And then she has to hide it from him or he'll sabotage it.
Well, here's the thing about this thing.
Trump's sometimes slow.
Sometimes he's really fast.
I'm going to make a prediction.
I don't think Mr. Blanch is there very soon, but he's got the Epstein role convincing Trump to cover it up when there was no evidence of Trump involved.
Let's zoom in on him and Epstein, and he's along with Maxwell visiting with her and all this stuff.
robert barnes
Exactly.
And he seems to be using it almost as leverage on the president of the United States.
That's what it appears to me.
alex jones
So is Tom Epstein blackmailing Trump and with what?
robert barnes
With pretending there's things in the Epstein file that aren't there, and that he's the guy that can make sure that misinformation about Epstein implicating Trump never gets published, never goes broad.
That's what I think.
That's what it looks to me is happening at some level because Trump was convinced.
alex jones
Notice how the left has dropped the Trump Epstein stuff, which there's no evidence.
Even the top investigator got caught on tech.
unidentified
No, Trump's not involved.
alex jones
All the witnesses say that.
But then now he somehow got roped into this.
Oh, it's disgusting.
robert barnes
Well, just think about where this guy comes from.
He comes from the Southern District of New York.
He clerks at the Southern District of New York.
alex jones
And that's what he wants to do.
robert barnes
Exactly.
The centerpiece of the worst lawfare in the country over the last quarter century isn't even the District of Corruption.
It's what they call the sovereign district of New York that has done abuse of abuse after abuse in civil and criminal cases.
That was the lead that sat by and did nothing while they wrongfully persecuted and prosecuted President Trump in state court.
It was the Southern District of New York that refused to take corrective or remedial action, that abandoned his defenses on immunity in the civil cases and abandoned his right to removal on the federal cases.
So the Sovereign District of New York is one of the most corrupt departments in the world.
So when you see a prosecutor, you see a lawyer who was born and bred in the sovereign district of New York, whose dream job was the sovereign district of New York, who learned where does James Comey come from?
Sovereign District of New York.
Where does his daughter come from?
Sovereign District of New York.
They're all Southern District of New York people.
They're all connected back to that same.
alex jones
Who spied the Epstein file to hand it over to Bondi as a poison pill?
Southern District of New York.
Exactly.
And Trump should ask: who brought Todd Blanche to him as his criminal lawyer?
He should go back to that moment.
robert barnes
Exactly.
How long has he really known Todd Blanche?
I mean, that should be one red flag.
If Blanche was so true, MAGA, where was he in 2016, 2017, 2020?
Where was he in all any of those years until he could write himself a big fat check and weasel his way into the top of the Justice Department by, in my view, feigning a defense?
Because I didn't see a very good PR defense for Trump in those cases.
And I saw a mediocre presentation in court on those cases.
So nothing about, by the way, in the criminal defense world, nobody has great respect for Blanche.
There's nobody.
I get what Trump wants.
He wants another Roy Cohn.
But look for somebody not with what you think is the appearance of flattery, which is this is bogus loyalty.
It's dubious flattery meant to deceive you.
And so what you need for Roy, look for someone with the skill set of Roy Cohn, someone with the cojones of Roy Cohn, someone who knows how to take apart a power structure like Roy Cohn could do.
Someone who could match the Andrew Weissmans of the world at being aggressive with the legal system in the way you need to be to take out these rogue deep state co-conspirators who want to ruin the city.
alex jones
I totally agree, Sir Robert.
Here's the bottom line.
You're the same like me.
You're smart.
You're informed.
You're dialed in.
I don't want to fight with the deputy AG.
I was already hearing horrible things about him the last six, eight months.
And then he rushes in as soon as the Democrats get pissed.
They're red-handed weaponization, DOJ on the stand, secret documents, undercover videos.
We have them.
The exact amounts of money paid to the foundations, then pay to the lawyers within a week.
And that's Ed Martin's charge to do that.
And then he calls him on the carpet and does all this.
And now we see the Supreme Court thing.
I mean, imagine Trump doesn't have time.
The midterms are coming up.
What is the maneuver?
And who do we get in?
Because I've heard Bonnie's not bad.
She loves doing TV.
She just basically does TV and lives in Florida.
Who do we get in as the real deputy AG?
robert barnes
There's, I mean, honestly, Ed Martin would make a great deputy AG.
Just elevate him to deputy AG and see if they're willing to try to block him in the Senate.
Use the opportunity of a recess appointment if necessary.
But Ed shows sincerity.
Ed shows interest.
And Ed knows things.
Like he wouldn't make the mistake of Blanche saying, oh, we can screw over Jones.
He's a fringe figure.
You're talking about the most popular, most watched, most viewed, most listened to, independent commentator in the country.
And one of the most in the world, the news stations that covered your story, this story about the Supreme Court denying you relief and remedy was covered literally around the world because I subscribed to all these global media publications.
I subscribed to the Russians and the Arabs and the French and the Italians and the Germans and you name it.
Latins, Brazilians, Central Americans, Australians, China, you name it.
They're covering the Alex Jones story because Todd Blanch is so in a tiny little bubble, he doesn't even know how consequential this is.
And this is why he thinks he can get away with it because he lives in this little political bubble.
He has his whole life.
Nothing about the guy says he understands anything about MAGA or that he has any commitment to America's civil rights.
He's never done civil rights cases to my knowledge in his entire life.
So there's nothing about him to suggest he has the skill set.
So pick somebody with a skill set.
At least Ed Martin has the willpower and the public political know-how.
Harmik Dylan has the political know-how and the right connections and the right understanding.
So Harmik Dylan's been immersed in these civil rights cases for a decade.
She could be capable.
She could be competent.
So the and she would be easy to elevate because she's already been approved by the Senate.
So you could put her up tomorrow.
You could just, hey, Todd, what's your favorite place to go?
Be a diplomat.
I'll send you to be an ambassador to the Bahamas.
Well, I guess, you know, Herschel Walker's there, but, you know, Turks and Caicos, whatever you want.
You know, we'll send you there.
Go be an ambassador over there.
You know, take your wife, have, have nice fun on the government.
alex jones
Why do you say Trump has this blind spot?
Because you did lawyer stuff for him in the 2020 theft.
I mean, Trump's great on so many fronts, but he's not trillion D Chesla, everybody says.
What is this blind spot to bring in Democrat, thoroughbred, obvious enemies just because they sit there and smile at him?
robert barnes
I mean, well, you know, it's like the old country song.
We see it on his foreign policy that, you know, looking for love in all the wrong places.
Trump looks for loyalty in all the wrong places.
Trump looks for leverage in all the wrong places on foreign policy.
It took him until just two weeks ago to figure out his leverage wasn't on Hamas.
His leverage is on BB.
Right now he's playing games pretending he's got leverage on Russia when his leverage is on Zelensky in Europe.
And he keeps making mistakes because of this.
But he tends to look for loyalty in the wrong places.
He's forgotten his own lessons.
He himself has repeatedly said he was shocked when he went through his bankruptcy and all the rest that who was loyal and who wasn't.
alex jones
And he thinks bombing Russia with cruise missiles will make Russia give up.
If Putin doesn't go to full war, the Russians will remove him.
That is the even the Rand Corporation says don't do that.
They told Biden don't do that.
Like everybody knows that's the default wrong move.
So who's telling him that Lindsey Graham?
robert barnes
Oh, exactly.
He keeps chasing Lady Lindsay when Lady Liberty is right there available in the church pew to marry.
So he's the and it's repeated.
I mean, he's escalating with Russia.
Right now, if we were working with Russia, Russia would be helping us deal with China.
Russia has lots of rare earths.
Russia can keep energy costs under control.
Russia can provide all kinds of things that China currently we depend upon for.
But we can't do that because we're threatening instead to send bombs and missiles into Moscow for on behalf of who?
This coked up lunatic in Ukraine who is when you're on with Tucker, explain what a disgrace this is that we're siding up with this loser who's busy harassing and persecuting Christians, suppressing every single liberty known to man, suspending and disbanding elections.
alex jones
He's removing his political opponents of their citizenship.
robert barnes
Yeah, that's what he did yesterday.
He just took the mayor of Odessa.
Oh, you're no longer a citizen.
This guy is a little tyrant.
He's a petty tyrant.
Now, he might look like a comedic character from a Charlie Chaplin film, but in fact, he's more like a horror film character.
He's more like little Chucky.
That's who Zelensky is.
And he would be a disaster for Trump.
Trump today is talking about 500% sanctions on any country that buys Russian oil.
That would sink our fragile economy.
That would fracture it right at the core.
And who would get all the blame for it?
Trump, because of that precise policy.
And for what?
Russia will never quit.
As Russians told me a long time ago, said Barnes, we would rather eat dirt than surrender.
And anybody who knows the history of St. Petersburg during what they call the Great War, what we call World War II, knows how literally true that is.
And that's the world Putin grew up in.
Putin was born seven, eight years after that.
His mother, his father, his grandmother, his grandfather, aunts and uncles, all connected to it.
When one out of every three men in Russia died in that war from the Nazis.
Anybody, they beat Napoleon.
Heck, they even beat the Mongols back in the day.
So why in the world do you want to escalate with Russia when we need Russia as a mediator in a lot of these global conflicts, including the Middle East and Iran?
alex jones
Who on record wants to come into the West?
It's the stupidest move on the planet.
Well, I am just flabbergasted by all this.
It's surreal to be at the center of this and then to watch him default Mike Lindell for $1.5 billion a judge, no jury trial.
The big question is, will Trump defend his supporters?
It's not about, oh, defend me.
I defend you.
It's so simple.
He gets defending J6 people.
Well, this whole lawfare thing, you know, is much bigger.
Yeah, this new Republican owner of the big voting machine company, they dropped the stuff on Giuliani, but not on Lindell because Giuliani, you know, it does some shows, but he's faded.
Lindell has popular shows.
They want it shut down because Lindell wants paper ballots.
robert barnes
It's deep state power grab.
You know, Giuliani is someone deep state can deal with because he used to be part of them.
So even when he's going AOL and critical of them, they don't consider him a threat.
I mean, there's what, you know, a few thousand people who tune into Rudy's podcast.