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POWERFUL TUESDAY BROADCAST: Trump Preparing To Appoint A Special Counsel To Investigate/Release Epstein Files In Massive 180, Sources Confirm To Alex Jones! Plus, Russia Warns Of Nuclear Armageddon After Trump Floats Plan To Bomb Moscow! — FULL SHOW 7/15/25
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visit infowars.com forward slash show and support the info It's Tuesday, July 15th, 2025.
I am your host, Alex Jones, back in studio in Austin, Texas.
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Today.
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We are entering the 176th day of the return of the American Republic.
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All right, so much to hit.
We have some really good news.
Last night, I saw the Benny Johnson interview with Laura Trump, who's one of the smartest people in the administration and the head of the RNC.
And she said, no, we're looking to appoint a special counsel.
Or she said, the feds are looking to, and Trump wants to reopen it.
He understands the public's concerns.
People said, wow, could this be true?
Of course it's true.
She's like the mouthpiece of Trump.
And so this morning I made a few phone calls and they said, yes, the decision's basically been made, but it's being developed right now.
But look for a special counsel to be appointed as early as sometime this week.
So that was like a million pound weight off my back last night because I knew Laura Trump's not full of crap.
But then when I verified it, it was like a trillion pounds off my back.
Yes.
Now it was nine days ago I came on air when this all broke and I said, this is going to be Streisand effect on Streisand effect.
I said, Trump is behind this because he wants to move on.
It's a giant kettle of fish, not because he's in there with anything incriminating.
And I understood the calculus.
I didn't agree with it, but I said it will blow up.
He will then come out and say it's him, which he did the next two days.
And it's just going to be a disaster.
The Democrats are going to pile on, call for hearings, which they've now done.
The Republicans just voted down having hearings yesterday.
So this is a disaster, absolute disaster.
And a lot of people said, you're a traitor.
You're criticizing Trump last week.
No, I called exactly what was going to happen.
I didn't make it happen.
And I want to know, and I do know who, but I've been asked not to give the details.
It's the problem with information like this.
It's who we thought.
Told Trump to move on from this.
And they used the Elon feud that I told you was so dangerous to get this going.
It was not Elon behind it.
Elon just learned about this and was like, ooh, I don't want to be connected to a cover-up of this.
Smart move.
People said, oh, well, Trump's more popular.
Move on.
Ha ha.
Elon's thrown overboard.
And I said, watch out.
Watch out.
This is going to unfold.
And it did.
But now Trump has figured this out.
And there will be a special counsel appointed to go through all this.
And as the FBI has said, it's not their job to release stuff.
In fact, they're not allowed to.
They just recommend prosecutions.
And so it really is up to the prosecutors, the DOJ.
And then something this big, no one prosecutor or even group prosecutors can deal with.
It needs to be a special counsel, as I and Steve Bannon and others for years.
We said if Trump gets back in, he needs to appoint a special counsel.
I would imagine that would be somebody that's extremely trusted, like Ed Martin, who now heads up the government weaponization task force and is also the pardon lawyer.
I have not talked to him yet about this issue, but I did talk to some other people.
I'll just leave it at that, but I do talk to Ed some.
So been on the show for 25 years, big, big patriot, headed up the Eagle Forum and so much more, but couldn't have a better patriot in there.
That's why they're so scared of him, the Democrats.
So we've got that.
Then we've got the news on Russia and Trump getting ready to green light bombing of Moscow.
Oh, yeah.
You talk about World War III Armageddon stuff and the Russians say, get ready for Armageddon.
We'll cover it all straight ahead.
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All right.
I understand so many angles of all the major issues, and I'm so immersed in it that I warned two months ago when the Trump-Elon feud exploded that you would then see the Epstein case become front and center and that Trump not wanting it to be a distraction might kill the investigation and that that would create a giant Streizen effect.
Six and a half, seven weeks after I predicted that, it happened last Monday, now eight days ago, really broke Sunday with the memo by the DOJ that they just slipped out there saying you didn't get murdered, Epstein.
There were no other intelligence agencies involved.
There was no blackmail.
There was no human trafficking.
And the Easter bunny is real.
And I said, this will explode into the mother of all Streisand effects.
And we know from the different criminal indictments and investigations and lawsuits, basically what's in there and who's involved.
And there's no Trump.
So why is he doing that?
Well, because Elon came out and said he'd been told by people that Trump was somehow implicated.
Now, is that manipulation by people giving Elon bad information?
Or is Elon super sophisticated and set a trap for Trump?
I'm not saying that.
I'm speculating.
I don't believe that.
Regardless, you could see this being teed up.
And indeed, it was, but you've got the King of England wanting it shut down.
You've got all these other world leaders wanting it shut down.
Trump could kill it and then get a lot of political cachet with those groups.
That's the type of advice that Susie Wiles, the White House chief of staff, we know has been giving Trump.
And I'm not trying to villainize her.
That's very avant-garde.
That's the trendy thing to do, very avant-garde.
No, but it is Susie Wiles because she's a big politico that has a foot in the Democratic Party and a foot in the Republican Party.
And she's brought a lot of organization to the Trump operation, and that's why they've been so effective on many areas of their agenda.
So the sword cuts both ways.
But it's Susie Wiles.
And, oh, Mr. President, you're so popular.
You're so incredible.
You survived assassinations and lawfare and all of it.
No, you just go out there and you just shut this investigation down.
And, oh, they're criticizing your attorney general and your FBI director and deputy director.
You just come out and say, yeah, you want people to move on.
And your base will move on.
That is the worst advice that you could give somebody.
I mean, on his face, as I predicted eight days ago, this will be a disaster.
And oh, Crooks acted alone.
Oh, and the guy that tried to kill Trump down in Mar-a-Lago, he acted alone.
Just shut it all down, protect the agencies, and they'll get behind you.
And you're the president now, but let's not worry about spilt milk or water under the bridge or blood under the bridge.
Let's just move on here.
Well, if you were going to do that, you just shut up.
It's not the right decision to not go after the deep state.
It's not the right decision to have the globalists claim they're running up the white flag, which they'll never really do until they're politically exposed and then indicted and put in prison.
But that decision, I can understand.
It's still a mistake, but I can see logic in it.
Coming out and saying, stop talking about it, as he did in the days after I said he was behind it.
And Trump said, yeah, I'm behind it.
People thought I was being mean.
And oh, I can see what's going on.
And then I called my sources and they said, yeah, how do you know that?
Well, this is what I do.
But nine times out of 10, I don't need to have a source.
I can already see what's going on.
And I just call and check.
People go, yeah, that's it.
That's why I'm Alex Jones.
That's why people tune in.
It's why the government tunes in because I know what I'm talking about 99% of the time.
So the fact now that Laura Trump went on Benny Johnson yesterday and she's one of the most competent people in the Trump administration and a great person.
Boy, what an upgrade from Jared Kushner.
It's night and day.
She said, no, no, no.
The federal government, the DOJ is getting ready to do this.
They're going to do it right.
It's about to happen.
So I made some phone calls and they said, yeah, it's a special counsel and they're looking at who it's going to be right now.
So that is beyond good news because there is no evidence of Trump involved in anything illegal with Epstein.
There is massive evidence the Democratic Party.
I mean, it's like 95% Democrats.
I mean, and globalists like Bill Gates and others.
I mean, there's just, there's nothing there except Trump and Epstein being socialites in New York and Palm Beach.
They both lived there and knew each other, and he was a member of the club, and Trump kicked him out like 16 years ago.
Back before this was news, we were covering it.
So my job is not to defend Trump.
My job is to cover the truth.
And that's why I said this makes no logical sense unless backroom deals have been made with the globalist establishment to end all of this if they will stop trying to undermine Trump, which again is a Mike Johnson, Susie Wild type behind the scenes deal.
Well, we didn't come here to make deals with the globalists.
We didn't put Trump in to make deals with the globalist.
We didn't put Trump in to manage the swamp and maybe drain it, you know, 30%.
We came here to fill in the swamp, to end the swamp.
That's what we're here to do.
So Steve Bannon electrified Turning Point USA and Tampa part of it coming up with hardcore populist speech.
The deep state must be destroyed to free the American people.
Bannon delivers the roadmap for American justice.
And I'm going to air part of the speech coming up.
Very powerful, on target, 100%.
But now, despite Trump saying there are no more Epstein Falls, Lord Trump says he will release more Epstein Files.
And then I made some calls.
Obviously, I already knew that a special counsel is being discussed months ago, and they almost did it.
But then Elon threw out the Trump being in the Epstein files, whatever that means.
And I was like, oh, now Trump will shut it down, thinking that that's an easy, quick move.
Because it's true.
When Trump came out Sunday on True Social and said, you know, the Democrats, John Brennan, Clapper, the man, all the fake Russian gate stuff and the rest of it, you know, they've been in control of that file for decades.
And remember, when Trump first got in, he never got the file.
They kept it hidden in the main file in New York, which four months ago or five months ago, they had to raid, the FBI had to raid itself to get.
And then when they got it, they're going to get rid of anything that's incriminating to the deep state, and they're going to only leave in what could be embarrassing to Trump, that maybe he was part of an FBI investigations decades ago because of some connection to Tepste.
Who knows?
But to say he's in there doesn't mean he's actually doing something wrong.
But Trump's, oh, yeah, release it, release it.
And then, ooh, wait a minute.
They've had control of this file and only left there what they wanted to.
So that's obvious logic.
That not only is it true the Democrats were in control of it, Trump's telling the truth on that, but it goes without saying, like a bear does you know what in the woods, that they would only put in there fake reports, you know, like they had the fake Jane Does that turn out to all be fake saying Trump raped him, that they would only plant lies in there.
So people, when I came out Sunday and Monday and said, no, people are attacking Trump saying it's crazy that the deep state had this file and it's doctoring stuff.
Well, they did have control of the file.
And of course, do you think John Brennan and Clapper and Comey and his daughter over the file in New York?
Do you think they're going to leave anything in there that's incriminating to them?
unidentified
No.
alex jones
People go, wait a minute, you were just attacking Trump and now you're defending him.
What is this?
Well, I don't pick a side here.
As the investigation goes on, our own investigation, your investigation, we call balls and strikes.
But it's basically what I said a week ago or over a week ago, because this is how these people operate.
But the answer to that is there's a lot of stuff in criminal investigations and other indictments that they weren't able to hide.
Let them put out their report that's got some fake Jane Doe thing in it or some FBI report.
And then let it all be run to ground.
And just like Russia Gate, it's fake.
And then you go ahead and you indict all the big globalists that are clearly involved.
If you say, no, sir, the easiest thing is just to shut this down.
No, you've now walked into their trap.
So I'm like, Trump, it's a bear trap.
Don't walk into it two months ago.
Oh, you're getting close.
You have your surrogates out on TV, you know, saying, move along, nothing to see here.
Bongino and Patel looking like deer in the headlights.
They've obviously been ordered by you to do this or by Susie Wiles.
unidentified
Stop.
alex jones
Don't step in it.
No, no.
Boom on the leg.
And now I'm like, now listen, Trump, if you keep doubling down is equivalent to chewing your leg off.
You'll bleed to death politically.
We can help you.
All of us together can get that bear clamp off your leg, bandage it up, get you to a doctor, and you're going to be all right.
And Trump's sitting there with his leg in a bear trap.
Where, sir, just be calm here, please.
Okay.
Don't start chewing on your leg.
All righty.
Hold on.
You're chewing on your leg.
Oh, see, that's not good.
So that's the analogy here.
And now Trump's sitting there with his leg in it.
And now they're getting ready to announce a special counsel.
And the bear trap went click, click.
Bear trap, you have to click, click, click, click, all these springs.
So it's like, it's gone, click, click, one click.
I'm like, does that feel better?
Now, a couple more clicks, we can get your foot out of there.
Click, click, click.
Ah, yes.
Let's avoid the enemy traps.
That's what I'm trying to do.
So we've been vindicated again.
Everything we said has come true exactly like I said it would.
And all of the mainline influencers and Republican minions that Jones is a traitor.
He's an enemy.
He needs to be, you know, shut down, put in jail.
You're amateurs.
And you just take establishment talking points and parrot them.
You have no integrity.
You don't know what you're doing.
And just like I said, when Trump bombs those nuclear sites in Iran, the media is going to immediately say that they'd moved the fissile material out, so now we got to go to full war.
And now that's where we are.
I know how the globalists operate.
So if you want to know the best, smartest, up-to-date angle of what's happening in general, we're the best.
And I don't say that, again, from some position of I'm the best around.
It's why they want us off the air because we actually do the homework.
We have the sources.
We know what we're doing.
And if we can just get enough people listening, we can navigate through these globalist traps, which we're doing right now.
Because I can spend the whole next three and a half, four hours on all the great victories Trump's happening and all the amazing successes.
But I have to cover the bad stuff because it gets enough people in Trump world and Trump himself and his family that listen and all of them to put enough pressure on him to not make these bad decisions with bad people giving him bad advice.
But notice those people through the Israel lobby and other groups and the neocons have fully attacked us saying, don't listen to Jones and Tucker Carlson and others.
They're just, you know, Russian agents or whatever.
Because they don't want his constituency, they don't want the American people, the populist, to be involved in putting pressure on lobbying through the grassroots for our agenda that we elected him for.
They want us to trust the plan and a bunch of delusional cue crap and just sit back and let the Israelis and the globalists come in and take over because the Democrats are pretty much defeated right now.
They're falling apart.
They're in free fall.
They can't raise any money.
They have the lowest poll numbers ever recorded.
And Israel is very sophisticated.
And previously, APAC was not the dominant lobby in America.
It was big on foreign policy.
But now, because of the power vacuum, Israel and special corporate interest are swooping in as well as MI6.
The CHICOMs were the big enchilada before, and they're still a big problem militarily.
It's a lot of operatives.
But Israel sees this power vacuum and has even bragged about it in their newspapers.
And now they're the greatest superpower in the world now because they control America.
They're bragging about it in Hebrew.
And I don't hate Jews or hate Israel and don't want Israel blown up.
But my goodness, no, stop bragging in your newspapers, you know, that you basically run the show.
Well, as soon as you became the biggest threat to controlling our policy of China, which Israel and The globalist coalition is now more of a danger than communist China to our domestic control of our own policies and then overall our total policy.
So now I am on Israel and on Netanyahu big time because it is expressing itself.
It is using its power.
It is doing it to the detriment of the United States and I believe the world.
And Israel is not one monolithic group.
Netanyahu is not popular and uses these wars to stay in power.
So Marjorie Taylor Greene is joining us.
Here's some of the headlines from MSM.
And Marjorie Taylor Green goes to war with Trump over broken promises.
Not going to war with Trump.
She's going to war with some of the special interests in there that are pulling him away from the North Star of doing what he was put in there to do.
We're exerting our will and our pressure on Trump as his original supporters.
So they want you to think either if you criticize Trump, you hate Trump, you've abandoned Trump, you support the Democrats.
Democrats say that.
And so do the neocons and others because they want to sell the idea that we're supposed to sit here and not exert pressure.
What a ridiculous idea.
What we always say call Congress and go to congressional meetings and write letters and go to school board and run for office and file lawsuits and spread the word.
And then we put pressure on Trump.
The idea that we're supposed to sit here and shut up is just beyond preposterous.
You got to ask yourselves, when people are out there saying, don't do that, just trust Trump, trust the plan.
Well, the plan's changing day to day, minute to minute, second to second, hour to hour, week to week.
And I've learned how we can exert our ideas and our will and our talking points into government, into culture, into corporations, into daily lives.
That's what this is all about.
And they don't want you to know how much power you have because they don't want you to use your power and have the confidence of understanding that.
So I want to hit some of the Epstein stuff.
I'm going to get into Russia because you talk about something, another area, total war, economic collapse, new viruses, civil war, major scandals, covering up government pedophile rings.
Any of these things could derail the Trump administration and basically make it lose its soul.
So there's a battle on all of these.
And in the case of Russia, NATO's not giving up.
Trump cut the weapons.
NATO discontinued the war.
Russia's intensified attacks.
And Trump wants a peace deal.
So he's like, well, let's just go ahead and give heavy weapons to Ukraine to start bombing Moscow.
And now Trump's floated that plan.
And now Russia's threatening nuclear war.
So that's the threat escalation ladder on steroids.
We'll cover it at the bottom of the hour.
But continuing here, yesterday, Laura Trump goes on Benny Johnson and says, we're about to see the feds move.
The decision has been made to go ahead and release the information.
We realize there needs to be more transparency.
I make calls.
It's a special counsel.
That's what they're looking very strongly.
I'm told they've been told they believe it's going to happen very soon, probably this week.
And that's an example of good course correction.
And it's exactly what we've called for with Roger Stone on the broadcast Thursday.
And I know he talked to Trump and said, you need to get a special counsel.
And then out comes the spokesperson, Laura Trump.
We'll play the clip in a moment.
And people say, well, then wait a minute.
Why do the Republicans just vote to block releasing the information in Congress, which doesn't exist, but does?
Well, they're behind.
But you talk about a fiasco of doing that.
Here's Hakeem Jeffries.
We're giving the worst people on earth the moral high ground here.
Because obviously, whatever the Democrats and Comey and Brennan and all them left in the Epstein files that now Trump's gotten is going to have everything about them covered up.
You got to love the Q people.
I mean, they're just so mentally ill.
I'm not trying to be mean to all of them.
They just can't help it.
But they're like, this is genius.
Trump coming out and saying, don't release it.
It doesn't exist.
That'll make the Democrats beg to have it released.
Trump's in control of the DOJ.
He can release it all right now.
Except the Democrats left in there all the stuff they wanted and took out all the real stuff about them out.
That's obvious.
That's a no-brainer.
That went on.
Trump's right about that.
That's Trump, Q. I know Q's even above God.
There's Q, God, Trump.
And then you being schizophrenics.
But all of your fake demonic logic is not true.
The Democrats have set this up and manipulated this so that Trump then will say, don't release it.
And when they go into it, it's only what they wanted to leave in there.
That's the reality.
That's what happened.
The opposite of what you've been saying.
The opposite of your delusional, foaming at the mouth, drooling idiocy, your 70 IQ garbage.
So trust the plan.
The American people and the people of the West and free will are the plan.
We do the thinking.
We do the lobbying.
We do the exposure.
We go out and protest.
We expose the human trafficking.
We get out on the streets.
We take action.
We endorse Trump first.
We created the Tea Party.
We launched Ron Paul.
We did it.
This broadcast, this audience of activists, we are men and women in the arena.
We are the plan.
The plan comes from us.
Politics is downstream From the grassroots.
We are the opposite of AstroTurf.
We are the people in the Declaration of Independence.
We, the people, we work in the farms and the factories and drive the 18-wheelers.
We raise the children.
We praise God.
We fight in the military.
We are the people.
We are the plan.
And when Trump deviates from that and starts doing something that's the opposite of what he said he would do, because of special interests every time manipulated because he's so busy, we're going to go expose those special interests.
We're not going to trust a plan and not engage when we see Trump taking a misstep.
It's like painting your windshield black so you can't even see out of your car while you're driving.
That's the reality.
And boy, have we been proven right again.
So now a special counsel.
You can say, well, that'll be fraud, whatever.
The point is, it's not whoever was advising Trump to walk right into this Democrat deep state trap and say, oh, let's just move on.
You know, stop.
Oh, no, it's not Trump.
It's Pam Bondi.
Get rid of her.
She misstep.
No, it's Trump.
I told you last Monday.
And of course, you learn the next few days it was.
Right over and over and over and over again, because this is what I do.
This is what my team does.
It's what my guests do.
It's what my sources do.
Do you have any idea you've been on the phone with this morning?
No, you don't.
We'll be right back on the other side.
I'll finish up on the Epstein latest developments.
Then I'll get into the looming U.S.-backed attacks on Moscow.
Stay with us.
unidentified
You were just telling me that you had a brain disease.
joe rogan
And you, what did you do to fix it?
chase hughes
I found this guy, he's a functional medicine guy, and he got me on methylene blue.
And that instantly stopped everything.
joe rogan
I'd take it.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Yeah.
chase hughes
I take it every day as well.
joe rogan
Yeah, RFK Jr. told me about it.
chase hughes
Yeah, man, it's fantastic.
And so this guy's injecting, in 1890, injects these rats with it and then does an autopsy on these things.
And their brain, the brainstem, every single nerve is blue.
So he discovered this methylene blue has an affinity for neuronal tissue.
So he says, well, it's sucking into neurons and working in the body.
So we started putting it in humans.
And we found out it's an MAOI, which helps with depression and anxiety and all kinds of life stress and stuff.
It is so incredible that it acts as an electron donor to mitochondria, especially your neuronal mitochondria.
So it helps you produce more ATP and it helps you get rid of this stuff called reactive oxygen species.
So you have an oxygen molecule that should have two hydrogens on it.
And like your body's job is to convert stuff into water so you can pee it out.
So if you get an oxygen molecule, it's got four, five, one, it's a reactive oxygen, which we call free radicals.
So methylene blue goes in there and balances a lot of those things out in your brain and your nervous system.
So it is a miracle.
And it's been proven for 100 years.
It's one of the most well-proven drugs out there.
alex jones
The strongest medical grade methylene blue.
And this is what I'm on.
Total mitochondria cleaning, next level energy.
This is amazing.
And you know what I'm on?
Ira Seamos Chilogy.
This right here.
Look at that.
That is power.
I'm on intermittent fasting.
I'm eight at three o'clock today.
And I stopped eating crap food, stopped drinking.
That's what I'm on right there, baby.
virginia foxx
Hearing none, the question's on the amendment.
All those in favor signify by saying aye.
alex jones
Aye.
virginia foxx
Those opposed say no.
No.
In the opinion chair, the no's have it.
The amendment still agrees.
alex jones
I'm kind of shocked by that.
I will ask for a roll call.
virginia foxx
The clerk will call the roll.
unidentified
Mrs. Fishbuck.
Mrs. Fishbock, no, Mr. Norman.
Mr. Norman, aye.
Mr. Roy.
Mrs. Houchin.
Mrs. Houchin, no, Mr. Langworthy.
rex jones
Mr. Langworthy, no, Mr. Scott.
Mr. Scott, no, Mr. Griffith.
Mr. Griffith, no, Mr. Jack.
jon bowne
No.
rex jones
Mr. Jack, no, Mr. McGovern.
unidentified
Aye.
rex jones
Mr. McGovern, aye, Ms. Scallon.
Ms. Scallon, aye, Mr. Nagoose.
unidentified
Yes.
rex jones
Mr. Nagoose, aye, Ms. Ledger Fernandez.
alex jones
All right, so that is the Republicans very busy yesterday in committee voting to block any release of any Epstein files that Congress has already gotten.
There's so many of them and so many investigations and 14 terabytes of info floating around.
So that, again, will only create an even bigger Streisand effect.
But that's the Republicans following the old directive of Trump a week ago to shut it down, which I first told you was Trump last Monday.
People said, you're a traitor.
It's not true.
And then, of course, that evening, he puts out a free social saying, yes, we need to move on.
Great job, Bongino.
Great job, Patel.
And then the next day, he shoots down the reporter at the press conference when he brings up Epstein being an intelligence operative, says, how dare you ask that question?
Terrible advice that Susie Wiles and others are giving him to just shut this down.
Now, as the firestorm built, even within his own family and advisors, they dispatched Laura Trump, who is a direct spokesperson of the president and heads up the RNC, to go on Benny Johnson.
We'll play the clip in a moment, and say, yes, the president's decided to reopen it.
We understand we need transparency.
Roger Stone, last Thursday, said he's going to advise the president to appoint a special counsel.
That's happened.
This morning, I made calls to the DOJ and they said, yes, we've heard that they're looking at who to appoint right now.
It could be as early as this week.
That is really good news because there's nothing incriminating in there about Trump.
We've had all these state and federal investigations.
All these women that were raped as young girls said they never saw Trump on the island, never at Zaro Ranch, never at his place in New York.
The few times they were at Palm Beach, a few of them and at a distance, 20, 30 feet away, saw Trump.
He was in public Being very nice to everybody.
There's more than 10 women who've been confirmed victims who were 15, 16, 17 years old, and they said they briefly saw Trump here or there in Florida at public events and that he was always very nice.
I did all this vetting nine and a half years ago before I endorsed Trump.
So I've been reporting on Epstein since 2007.
So then why would he not release it?
Because there's so many powerful people involved.
It's a giant fiasco.
It's got the King of England and others implicated.
And then Trump gets a bunch of countries to roll over to what he wants by deep sixing it.
And you got all these people that are in the files, but it hadn't been released, like Kevin Spacey and others, and Dershowitz saying, please release them because we know we never did anything with girls.
And we know Kevin Spacey ain't into girls.
He's into like, you know, 20-year-old waiters.
And they're just like, yeah, we flew around on planes with him.
We're not doing it.
So release it.
And, you know, that's another reason to release it.
Take the victims out is for all the people that were around Epstein but did not do anything.
Joe Rogan says misunderstood Alex Jones was right about Jeffrey Epstein.
That is an effing fact.
And that goes back years ago.
And they're reporting MAGA starts to move on from Epstein drama as Trump digs in.
That's old news from yesterday.
That's not true.
The Democrats hope Trump quote moves on with the cover-up because it'll be so devastating.
As Steve Mannon said, he could lose up to 40 seats in the House in the midterms.
And you see Laura Ingram and Tucker Carlson at TPUSA and turning point events.
And they say, how many of you want Trump to not release the Epstein information?
Boom, none of us.
No, no.
How many of you want him to release it?
Oh, yay!
Just people want the truth.
So when I came out and said this is a terrible change of direction to 180 last week, of course I was right.
That's a no-brainer.
But people think supporting whatever Trump does in one moment is part of some giant master plan.
He has a general plan for America and freedom and prosperity and sovereignty.
Great job.
But no, Trump's constantly changing his mind on things.
That's well known.
So he's very easy to make mistakes because you make so many decisions.
Most of them are right.
But it's also easy if you can get information to him to make him course correct.
And so that's why it's so important for us to be vocal.
But let's go to Hakeem Jeffries, who were getting one of the worst people in the world, moral high ground in the direction Trump was going.
And then now we have the great news with Laura Trump saying, no, no, no, no, no.
We're course correcting.
We're going to investigate.
We're going to release.
And now it's even mainstream news that they hear that they're getting ready to appoint a special counsel.
That was first called for on this broadcast.
Even before Trump got back in, we said it's important to do this because it'll be independent from the FBI in general.
All right.
So go ahead and go to Hakeem Jeffreys and then go to Benny Johnson with Lord Trump.
hakeem jeffries
And now the chickens are coming home to roost.
The American people deserve to know the truth.
What, if anything, is the Trump administration and the Department of Justice hiding?
What are you hiding?
If you're not hiding anything, prove that to the American people.
And if you are trying to hide something, as many of Donald Trump's MAGA supporters apparently believe, then the Congress should actually work hard to try to uncover the truth for the American people.
benny johnson
What would be your advice?
Given this back and forth, we're just coming off of turning point here in Tampa.
This was the topic of conversation.
What would be your advice in order to take the temperature down on this issue from within the administration?
lara trump
Well, I do think that there needs to be more transparency on this.
And I think that that will happen.
I mean, look, I don't know what truly exists there, but I know that this is something that's important to the president as well.
He does want transparency on all these fronts, everything we're talking about, because it's frustrated him as well.
He sat for four years like the rest of us did and saw lie after lie and saw our country just being sent down the wrong path.
And it was really frightening and very upsetting to a lot of people to see.
And I would actually say over the past 10 years, we've all kind of endured this.
Prior to that, it was probably happening, Benny, but we just weren't as aware of it.
It wasn't until Donald Trump came down that golden dust flare that he just kind of blew the doors off of everything.
And people started to wake up and realize, wait a minute, things are not as they have always been presented to us.
And I do believe that you will see that.
Now, as it relates to the president, I know that this is probably not his number one thing he's focused on.
He's focused on a lot of other important things.
We've got this big announcement with Russia going on, I think, as we're speaking right now at the White House.
We have, you know, a Middle East.
We're trying to get peace over there.
We're trying to make sure that Iran's nuclear arsenal is obviously completely decimated.
We want to make sure everything is on the right track for this country.
Fortunately, you've seen no border crossings in the last month.
Zero, by the way.
I think that's incredible.
No one's talking about that enough.
Zero illegal border crossings in the month of June.
Amazing how that's all gone.
So I don't know that this was top of mind for him, but he hears all the noise and he hears all of the consternation out there.
And I think he's going to want to set things right as well.
So I believe that there will probably be more coming on this.
And I believe anything that they are able to release that doesn't damage any witnesses or anyone underage or anything like that, I believe they'll probably try to get out sooner rather than Later because they hear it and they understand it.
So, hopefully, we see that happen sooner than later.
And that, I guess, that would be my advice.
But to everybody out there who's all worked up about it, there's no like great plot to keep this information away that I'm aware of.
I do just believe that maybe it's been slow-rolled for reasons that hopefully we understand down the line.
And I think we're probably going to get more transparency on it very soon.
alex jones
Bottom line, ladies and gentlemen, Trump is set to do a 180 on the last eight days of the terrible course correction they made on saying case closed.
There's nothing to see here.
Epstein acted alone.
He wasn't a human trafficker, even though his partner in crime is in prison for that.
He killed himself.
There was no blackmail.
Go to sleep.
You're getting sleepy.
You're getting sleepier.
Watch the golden watch.
Watch the flashing light.
That is morally wrong.
No one's going to buy it.
Gives the Democrats all this power.
They did control the file.
They know they've been removed from it.
And so now they have set up this trap that Susie Wiles and others walked Trump right into, in my view.
And I'm not saying we did it from a position of being mean, but this is not just a normal political deal.
This is major intelligence agencies that are involved.
Here's Bannon just talking about some of the background on Epstein and his intelligence community connections.
And then that segues into Hank Johnson, the guy that says that islands float, Guam floats, and then if we put too many people on it, it'll capsize.
This idiot's been given the moral high ground, has now produced a little musical about releasing the Epstein file.
steve bannon
Here's the clips.
And not to make the audience's head blow up anymore, but Bill Barr's father was the guy that met, saw Epstein one time at a bookstore, I think.
Epstein was from Coney Island, had no college degree, gave him a job at one of the most prestigious boys schools in the prep schools in New York City.
And from there, quote unquote, he taught math or he was a tutor for math.
And after Bill Barr's father hired him, Ace Greenberg's son, I think, took a new Ace Greenberg.
Next thing you know, he's at Bear Stearns.
Next thing you know, he's a partner.
Oh, by the way, another coincidence.
Bill Barr was the attorney general that drew up the whole new charging document on Epstein.
It was in Bill Barr's control and authority that the Bureau of Prisoners reported to that Epstein was murdered, excuse me, committed suicide, suicided himself.
It stinks to high heaven, does it not?
hank johnson
Congressman Hayton Johnson coming to give you some more ear candy or perhaps an ear ache, but I'm going to do my best off of this Jason Isbil tomb dream sickle.
unidentified
A monster died by suicide.
hank johnson
Believe that you must be blind.
unidentified
You've been telling us you released the file, but where are they?
We've gone along with what's been told.
hank johnson
Fan plenty of time you can control.
Whatever you say, you have withhold.
We still find dreams sickle on a summer night in a full chair.
Trump's holling at the moon.
Release the Epstein files soon.
alex jones
Release the Epstein files that they've been in control of for all these years.
Trump is right when he said that.
Okay, it'll be like Russia Gate.
You can't then walk into their trap and not release it.
As Trump is now figuring out, and that sources, even in Axios, you name it, the Trump admin says Trump now understands and wants to, quote, make it right.
Yes, make it right.
You walked into a trap.
I'm told Sizzy Wild is one of the main one advising this.
I'm not trying to start a fight with her.
She helped Trump get elected as a very smart lady.
But her consultancy with Pam Bondi, with Pfizer and chemical companies and a lot of it, is heavily involved in all of this.
And I saw a bunch of mainstream corporate news articles this morning.
Jones claims that Trump admin is blocking removing Florida from the water with no proof.
It's only federal rulings.
It's only the Solicitor General Friday saying, we don't like these court rulings, federal rulings are removed from water.
We're appealing that and want to keep it in the water.
And we showed you all the documents yesterday and the rulings.
And again, it's Susie Wils and her consultancy that's directly involved with that big chemical company lobbying group.
I'm not saying she specifically in this, did that.
I'm just saying when you got stuff like this going on, you look at who's connected to who, you got to say it.
Well, why the hell is the Trump administration trying to keep fluoride in the water?
Trump's DOJ says EPA will appeal landmark fluoride ruling.
And they say EPA.
No, the EPA has come out and said remove it.
They were going to put the report out last year that it causes cancer and lowers IQ and all that.
No, it's the Solicitor General that's doing that.
At the DOJ.
So I just call balls and strikes here, folks.
And this is pissing me off.
Kennedy's traveling the country getting states to ban it.
He made recommendations to be banned, but that's what HHS does to the FDA and the EPA.
But we had a federal judge in a class action suit.
That's real.
Judges can't do stuff on their own, but with class action suit they can.
Said, yeah, okay, take it out.
God, I got EPA reports saying take it out.
So just simply amazing.
So that's the type of garbage we see going on.
I want to get into war and Russia and Trump.
But here's a few more Epstein clips.
Here's Trump, another one of the clips previously saying, oh, I do want it released.
Then the media didn't show the full clip on TV, but they did online.
Then we should remember some of the victims.
Most of these women have, some of these women have now committed suicide, though they said they wouldn't.
I don't believe they did.
And then we've also got Stephen Gruber on Ghislaine Maxwell tell-all coming soon.
Yeah, I'll talk about that in a moment.
Here it is.
unidentified
So if you were president, would you declassify, you can answer yes or no to please.
Would you declassify the 9-11 files?
Yeah.
Would you declassify JFK files?
Yeah.
alex jones
All right, Ghislaine Maxwell, come on down.
unidentified
You are the next contestant in the Jeffrey Epstein sweepstakes.
alex jones
Here's what I think.
I think Ghislaine Maxwell is going to come forward now.
She wants out of prison.
20 years on her ticket.
She wants out.
She's ready to name names.
She's ready to name it all.
You don't have the documents?
She's got the documents right here.
scott bessent
What do you think?
unidentified
I think Ghislaine's going to spill her guts on everything.
alex jones
She's going to dish the dirt.
She's going to name names Bill Clinton.
You're in trouble.
Mr. Gates.
Good thing you're already divorced.
unidentified
Some things are going to fly out of the closet you people are not ready for.
alex jones
That's my guess.
unidentified
I mean, Cash Patel, give us some faith here, brother.
scott bessent
Do the job.
unidentified
Make the FBI a credible investigative agency again.
alex jones
Do the work.
Find the truth.
To help with the list.
Go make a new list, Cash.
scott bessent
We're counting on you.
alex jones
It's what we voted for.
scott bessent
We want the answers.
unidentified
So Ghislaine, Cash, let you guys have lunch and tell us what you figure out.
So if you were president, would you declassify, you can answer yes or no, would you declassify the 9-11 files?
Yeah.
Would you declassify JFK files?
Yeah.
I did.
donald j trump
I did a lot of it.
unidentified
Would you declassify the Epstein files?
Yeah.
Yeah, I would.
All right.
donald j trump
I guess I would.
unidentified
I think that less so because, you know, you don't know.
donald j trump
You don't want to affect people's lives if it's phony stuff in there,'cause there's a lot of phony stuff with that whole world.
unidentified
But I think I would, or at least I'd.
Help restore trust?
donald j trump
I don't know about Epstein so much as I do the others.
Certainly about the way he died.
It would be interesting to find out what happened there because that was a weird situation and the cameras didn't happen to be working, et cetera, et cetera.
But yeah, I'd go a long way toward that one.
The other stuff I would.
unidentified
All right.
alex jones
Here's what I'm going to do.
I want to finish up on this and the Russian thing's too big to just hit here in the next six minutes.
We'll have MTG on with huge news on multiple fronts.
The Epstein cover-up, the 180, the new 180, her weather weapon bill introduced in Congress, and so much more with MTG.
And then I'm going to get into Trump signaling that he's getting ready to, with Zelensky, give them heavy weapons to bomb Moscow and other major cities directed by the United States.
That is directly to Armageddon.
So we heard about this year old clip of Trump and a fundraiser that got leaked last week that they confirm is real, saying, well, there would never been a war because I told Xi Ji Ping and Putin, Ibu ever invade a country, I will bomb Beijing and Moscow.
Well, now he's openly talking to Zelensky about that.
That's been confirmed by the White House.
He's been making statements that he's looking to make some major deliveries, not just offensive.
And Russia's responded and warns of nuclear Armageddon after Trump's latest Ukraine move.
But going back to what you just saw from Trump a year ago on Epstein, on Lex Friedman's show, and on that Fox program, where on national news, they put out the clip, I'll release it.
On the internet, on Fox Nation, they put out the full clip where he says, except I won't release it all.
There's a lot of innocent people been mixed in by the intelligence agencies.
That's how they do it.
Now he put a True Social out Sunday saying Brennan and Clapper were in control of this.
People go, oh my God, it's an even bigger cover-up.
Now he claims the files from them.
It is.
They were in control of it.
They're not going to leave the bad stuff about them in there.
People go, well, I'm confused.
You're saying Trump made a bad decision covering this up, but now you're admitting it's a fraud.
Well, yeah, you don't cover up the fraud because then that makes you a part of it.
You go to war with it.
And Trump now gets that.
So just watch.
I'll be right again.
This is really good news.
And of course, liberal media is like, Jones was against Trump on this, but now he's spending it, wanting to believe something good.
No, I've experienced the Democrats falsifying files on me over and over again.
In Congress, you name it.
They're famous for it.
My goodness.
Do you not remember all of this?
I just report the facts that we know are the most accurate.
As we get more information, we'll add to it.
But in general, we're pretty much always right.
Now, we're going to go to the break.
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There is so much to talk about in the limited 20 minutes or so we have with her.
Obviously, the firestorm over the Epstein 180 now, we're being told a special counsel is going to be appointed.
That's from my Justice Department sources.
It's also in the news.
Trump's saying he wants to set things right.
Obviously, she's introduced legislation on the weather war weapons and what's going on with DARPA and secretive projects there with weather modification, geoengineering, and so much more.
Representative MTG at Rep MTG, I want to thank her so much for joining us at this historic moment.
Congresswoman, great to see your shining face as usual.
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Where do you want to start first?
marjorie taylor greene
Boy, there's a lot to talk about, Alex.
The first thing I'd like to talk about is how Americans overwhelmingly voted in November for President Trump.
And one of the reasons why they support President Trump is no more foreign wars and United States not being involved in Ukraine and Middle East.
And this was something that was cheered for at rallies.
And I know that because I went to more rallies than any member of Congress.
And in my speeches, talked about no more funding, no more weapons to Ukraine.
And they cheered and cheered and cheered.
So it's, I think this is a departure from what we voted for to see the president announce that he wants to sell American military weapons to NATO and then NATO give these weapons to Ukraine.
And there's some important things to talk about there, Alex.
Number one, Ukraine is not a member of NATO.
So there is no reason for NATO to be defending Ukraine.
Number two, we are one of the largest funders of NATO.
And so if NATO is purchasing military weapons from the United States, the American people are paying for it because we are the largest funder of NATO.
And, you know, we have so many problems, Alex.
My kids are 22, 25, and 27.
And the biggest issues plaguing 20-year-olds, 30-year-olds, and even 40-year-olds is the fact that housing is unaffordable, rent is unaffordable, insurance is unaffordable, bills are unaffordable.
We have a drug crisis and homeless crisis in America, and we have a mental health crisis.
And, you know, young people today are looking towards a future that seems hopeless.
And if we are moving towards World War III by escalating the war in Ukraine by providing them offensive, not only defensive, but offensive weapons, I think this is the wrong direction for President Trump.
I think it's the wrong direction for America.
And the American people showed their support for no more U.S. involvement by their cheers and boos in the rallies.
And never forget the rally in South Carolina, Pickens, South Carolina, where Lindsey Graham was literally booed off the rally stage in his own hometown because he has been the leader in the Senate and here in Washington, D.C., dragging America into involvement in Ukraine.
And I can't express that loud enough.
And so I think this is a major issue to pay attention to, Alex.
It's not wrong to say, ask President Trump not to get America involved in this.
It's absolutely the right thing to do because he has neocons in his ear daily, day in and day out here in Washington, D.C., urging him to get involved.
He's got the European leaders lighting up his phone, urging him to get involved.
But, you know, it's unfair that everyday Americans don't get to call the president and ask him not to get involved in this war.
And so this is why I'm talking about it.
And I myself am urging President Trump directly not to get America involved in this war.
And I don't think this will de-escalate.
I fully believe that Putin will not back down.
Russia is a nuclear army.
alex jones
Congresswoman, we got a one-minute break.
Start.
This is so important.
I hate to cut you off.
We got a hard break.
We'll back in 60 seconds.
Well, Marjorie Taylor Greene is our guest here, and you see the headlines everywhere.
Marjorie Taylor Green goes to war with Trump over broken promises.
I don't call it going to war.
We are his constituents.
There's a tug of war with the neocons and globalists trying to get us into these wars, trying to cover up the Epstein, trying to increase spending.
They want to act like it's traitorous for constituents to put pressure on members of Congress.
That's what we're supposed to do.
We love Trump overall.
Congresswoman, you were just in the last segment basically going there, but talking about this incredibly dangerous escalation of Trump talking to Zelensky and openly saying we may give heavy weapons to them very soon.
Trump's giving a 50-day deadline to start bombing Moscow itself with U.S.-directed weapons.
The Russians say that will lead to nuclear Armageddon, and I agree.
Putin won't back down.
This is madness.
Who is in his ear?
Tell us what's happening and what can we do?
marjorie taylor greene
Well, and I agree with you, Alex.
It's not disloyal to the president to urge him on what America truly cares about.
That's not disloyalty.
That's the right thing to do.
And you're so right.
This will not de-escalate.
It's going to escalate.
And I think everyone just needs to realize that you voted for President Trump.
You voted for Republicans to have the majority.
And you're the people.
You're the power.
And your voice matters.
So please speak up.
And this is a very important time to do so.
And there's other issues, Alex, that I think are incredibly important.
There's a vote happening this week in the House on a bill that the American people hardly know anything about called the Genius Act.
And the Genius Act has already passed the Senate.
President Trump is urging us in the House to pass this bill.
He's posted it on Truth Social.
Leadership is urging us to pass this bill.
But I just want to give you a brief description in the bill.
It sets up a federal framework to regulate stablecoin.
And, you know, it's definitely pro digital currencies.
However, here's one problem with the Genius Act.
It does not ban a central bank digital currency.
And it actually sets up the federal framework to allow a back door to a central bank digital currency, which I'm largely against.
And I believe Probably everyone watching your show is largely against.
And President Trump, I just want you to know on January 23rd, and I'm sure your staff will find this for you, signed an executive order and a very important executive order setting up digital financial technology.
And there's two things that are in his executive order that are not in the Genius Act.
One of them is giving people the ability to maintain self-custody of digital assets.
That's incredibly important to people that own cryptocurrency, stablecoins.
And then the second thing that is not in the Genius Act, but is in his executive order, is a complete prohibition, a ban on central bank digital currency in the United States and abroad.
And so here's the problem with the Genius Act.
They didn't give us a chance to introduce amendments.
The House leadership did not allow us to do that.
And there's some of us that very much wanted to introduce an amendment to ban a ban on central bank digital currency.
And we weren't allowed to amend this bill.
And today they're having the rule vote at 1.30 on the Genius Act.
And it's paired with the Department of Defense Appropriations bill.
And I'm afraid that's going to pass.
And then we're supposed to vote on the Genius Act this week, I think on Thursday.
And it will probably pass even with the help of Democrats.
And I just, look, I think we always have to watch our government and we always have to watch legislation because there's things that creep in legislation that shouldn't be there, no matter who is in charge, no matter if the people you voted for are in charge.
And a good example of that recently happening was the AI moratorium for 10 years on state rights to make laws and regulate AI.
And that should have never been in the big beautiful.
alex jones
And I love how you and I, you particularly got called a traitor a few weeks, a month ago for demanding that be taken out, basically an AI dictatorship by the law.
And then finally got voted on 99 senators to one.
So you, again, over and over again is this narrative.
It's not even about defending you.
It's that anytime someone stays loyal to America, loyal to freedom, warns Trump what we're supposed to do, then we get stuff pulled and the deep state runs articles that we're not loyal when they're the open globalist enemies.
And I see a lot of this even from the influencers.
Don't ever ask questions, just whatever special interests say, it's supposedly Trump.
No, Trump needs us to raise the alarm.
marjorie taylor greene
That's right, Alex.
They do.
They run articles against us.
They have paid influencers that post against us and accuse us of being disloyal when actually we're the most loyal.
And then there's even paid bots that jump on our accounts and jump in our comments and tell lies about us.
Alex, I would say you, myself, Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon, and others, we're actually the most loyal in MAGA because we continue to urge the president and we continue to urge him to stay with America First and the MAGA principles that he founded.
And that's the right thing to do.
And I would encourage people, look, you got to stay focused on the agenda.
Don't let lobbyists or industries here in Washington, D.C. or the deep state really take over our legislation and take us away from the agenda.
And the neocons are, I mean, here's what I think's happened, Alex.
I think the neocons and the establishment Republicans are the ones wearing the MAGA hats in Washington, D.C. right now.
And it makes me sick.
And they are hijacking our movement.
They're hijacking the party.
And it's unreal that it's happening.
But in November, it was about MAGA finally defeating the establishment Republicans and the neocons, but they are coming roaring back.
And so I just, look, I am committed to my district representing them and their ability to have a future in America and their businesses to be successful, their children to have a safe, prosperous, secure future.
And I'm unapologetic in voting for those things.
alex jones
Well, God bless you.
I know you got to leave soon.
You're very, very busy, Congressman.
We got to hit two big issues.
You came out last Monday like I did, and I said this is going to be a Streisand disaster.
We know Trump's not in the Epstein files with anything real or any problem.
Whoever's given this advice, and we now know who in the White House, has really walked him into a trap, which I believe is on purpose.
This is the stupidest thing ever.
So I don't believe anybody with over above a 70 IQ would do this.
Now, Laura Trump comes out and says, don't worry, they're about to actually reinvestigate.
I've been told it's in the news that they are looking at a special counsel.
Can you briefly speak to that?
And then also your geoengineering legislation to ban that with these unprecedented NOAA-level floods around the country.
marjorie taylor greene
Yes, real quick, I'll try to move on those.
I fully support a special counsel.
I support having all the information released.
We should be the party of transparency, not the party that covers up the people that surrounded the most well-known pedophile in modern day history.
That disgusts me.
And I really want to see Pam Bondi, Cash Patel, Dan Bongino lead the effort in exposing those people, the powerful rich elites that always get away with everything when we see ordinary Americans constantly feel the hammer of justice come down on them.
So I'm like you.
I fully support a continued effort to release those names and those people.
That's the right thing to do.
Secondly, I do want to talk about the weather modification and geoengineering bill that I'm introducing.
It's called the Clear Skies Act.
This is a bill that's going to ban weather modification and geoengineering, and it has incredible support from Americans all over the country.
Alex, here's the reality.
They can say that they're doing cloud seeding and it has no effect, no ill effect or no bad effect, but they cannot prove it.
Nowhere can they prove that because man does not control the weather, God does.
And cloud seeding, weather modification, all types of geoengineering, when it's done, it is not done in a controlled laboratory.
It's not done in a controlled building just for their customers, whether it's governments or farmers or ski lodges or whoever is hiring them.
That is not done in a controlled environment for their paying customers.
It's done wide open in all of our skies.
And the outcome and the results affect everyone, whether you paid for it, whether you support it, or whether you are extremely against it.
And so this is a powerful bill, and we need to rein this in.
And Alex, I know you've talked about it for a very long time and got, it's been called a conspiracy theory.
I was attacked a couple of years ago when I started talking about it, called crazy and conspiracy theorists.
Well, now Americans are finding out this is very real.
It's been happening for a very long time.
And it has very consequential and even deadly results, unfortunately and tragically on people and property.
alex jones
Absolutely, Congresswoman.
I know you got to go.
And we've been very gracious with the time.
But I just want to say this.
I can see a big issue, know the facts, have my view, and then I literally go look on your X account and it's word for word.
What I haven't even said yet on air, it's like we're Sympotico because we've got a big knowledge base.
We're researching and we're not just looking at it minute to minute, two-dimensionally.
We're looking at it three-fourths dimensionally.
And I got to say, you are hands down the best congressperson we've got.
I hope you become president someday and you're just amazing.
60-second question.
I'll let you go.
marjorie taylor greene
Okay.
alex jones
Do you have any inside baseball?
I've got some, maybe I can tell you off air about who told Trump that we should just move on from this and direct people to shut down this investigation.
Obvious giant fiasco.
It looks good that he's starting to back out of that and understands.
Nothing to hide, bring it out.
Do we have any idea why the hell this giant Epstein fiasco started?
marjorie taylor greene
Well, I can only speculate publicly, but I can talk to you offline about it.
And I would like to do that.
But I think that we know that it's not just the American government that is involved or was involved with Jeffrey Epstein.
I believe it's foreign countries' governments.
Some people have said Israel.
It may be Israel.
It could be the UK.
We don't actually know.
I don't know.
I haven't seen the evidence.
So I can't give a concrete explanation based on the evidence.
However, those are the speculations.
And guess what?
It's not wrong to speculate that.
And it's not wrong to say that.
And I really encourage everyone that continues to ask questions.
You know, this has been the first fracture in MAGA, and we don't want this to happen anymore.
alex jones
Congresswoman, let's talk soon.
You let me know the time.
I'd love to brief you because we've got actually some documents on that.
And it's very stupid what you said.
It's MI6 Mossad.
The Brits are on record kind of creating the pedophile control system last 70 years.
Mossad has picked up heavily on it.
You know, the former Israeli prime minister, you know, got caught at Epstein's lair a lot in New York, but it's actually a joint group.
And you're absolutely right that that's the pressure that is coming to bear with the CIA saying, hey, this is intelligence, a joint operation.
The CIA was involved as a junior partner.
That's just the facts.
And you got Robert Maxwell, it was the head guy running this for MI6 Massad on record.
Then you have his daughter running the franchise.
Basically, Epstein was under her.
And that's why this is overall being suppressed.
And it's the agencies trying to defend themselves.
So I'd love to brief you on that.
Thank you so much for all you're doing.
And I look forward to speaking to you again.
marjorie taylor greene
Thank you, Alex.
alex jones
Wow.
An amazingly powerful, important interview.
And again, she got viciously attacked last Monday.
They're saying this is a terrible idea.
We know there's all these Epstein files, not just a client list.
We know that there's 14 terabytes of videos.
We know Bondi said it's Epstein raping kids and now, oh, it's porn.
And no, it's not him.
Trump does want to move on.
He's got all these other big issues like trying to stop nuclear war.
But at the end of the day, this is about bringing down the deep state, not taking it over, not defending it.
So that is the facts.
All right.
I want to play a very important John Bound report that just broke dealing with a UN treaty to take over our lives, our medical systems, and our government.
But they're still trying to sneak through.
Elon helped shoot it down eight months ago.
They tried to pass it in the last spending bill before the BBB.
unidentified
And it's back.
alex jones
So I want to, who medical tyranny amendment set to drop.
I want to get to that report.
We'll post it on Exit Real Alex Jones.
It's on Bandai Video right now.
And then I want to come back and get into the Russia situation that she was just alluding to that is the most dangerous yet.
And if you think bombing Iran was dangerous, rolling the dice and Russian roulette, this is literally Russian roulette.
I mean, if there's six bullets in the cylinder, bombing Iran was one bullet, five empty.
You spin it, you pull the trigger.
There's one chance out of six.
You blow your brains out and get nuclear war.
Bombing Moscow with U.S. giant 2,000-pound missiles that we direct with our satellites is like putting three bullets in the cylinder and spinning it.
I mean, literally 50-50 chance nuclear war.
So Russia doesn't care about his tariff threats.
It's made Russia stronger.
So now Trump is threatening to bomb them way beyond what Biden did.
And the Russians go, okay, get ready for nuclear war.
We're going to hit your military bases.
I mean, they've officially said that.
And just a little news flash, a little bit about the Russians.
I mean, we wouldn't put up with this.
This is cuckoo town.
This isn't going to start in a fight with the Iraqis or the Iranians.
This is the biggest nuclear power in the world.
Yeah, we got a bunch of super weapons.
It doesn't matter.
A bunch of their submarine missiles will get in.
We're all dead.
Or you'll be wishing you were dead.
And the collapse of civilization that comes out of it will make Viggo Mordensen's The Road look like a walk in the park.
It'll make Road Warrior, a 1980s classic, with Bel Gibson look like a utopia compared to a limited nuclear war one Russian submarine with cruise missiles and Polaris-style ballistic missiles even if our anti-missile defense systems knocked out 80% of the missiles it launches one of the damn things
That's five to ten warheads in it.
You're going to miss them.
One submarine could take out every major city in the United States if we didn't stop the missiles.
They got 30, 40 of the damn things off our coast right now.
unidentified
Probably more.
alex jones
Just give you a little out.
You're like, well, we got that too.
Yeah.
That's why it's called mutually assured destruction.
Because you'd have to be as mad as a hatter.
Thank you.
to be part of it and and this is the threat escalation ladder remember biden two and a half years ago we can't send f-16s or abrupt tanks that's world war three on the escalation ladder and now we're already bombing hundreds of miles in drone attacks 4,000
miles inside Russia you know the CIA's behind that and now oh let's rain down heavy cruise missiles on their asses that are run by the U.S. Fabulously horrible idea Trump gives Putin deadline as World War III fears spike with Moscow range cruise missile deal it's just you can't make this up I've been rankling with the inside skip of what's going on in the battle for the White House right now it's not enough to get Trump in now we got a tug of war with the globalist over who's going to control the agenda oh
Oh, the neocons and the globalists, the Israelis, don't like us as constituents having our voices heard.
That's treason.
No, it's treason when foreign governments may belate our policies.
So I proudly criticize Trump when he's on a wrong course because that's my right as a citizen and my right as somebody to put him in there right along with you.
Here's John Ballin's report.
We'll go to break.
Come back with the huge news.
tedros adhanom ghebreyesus
The next pandemic is not a question of if, but of when.
And we cannot afford to repeat the same mistake of the past.
That's why WHO's member states are negotiating a new pandemic accord and amendments to the international health regulations to strengthen the legal framework for the global response to pandemics.
And we can't stop there.
We must follow through with national ratification and accountable implementation.
For the sake of future generations, we must not go back to the old cycle of panic and neglect that left our world vulnerable.
thomas massie
My amendment here is very simple.
It says that if a law, if a treaty has a law in it that has the bearing on United States citizens, on our domestic activities, then it has to follow the lawmaking process of the Constitution.
jon bowne
The World Health Organization's international health regulations, updated in 2005 and amended in 2014, claimed to be designed to stop the spread of infectious diseases worldwide by requiring countries to report health emergencies and maintain strong surveillance systems in place, according to the Pan American Health Organization.
unidentified
The resolution including the amendments contained in document A77-8-9222 is adopted.
Thanks.
Thank you.
Thank you.
jon bowne
But with new amendments set to kick in on July 19th, 2025, the clock is ticking as unelected officials in Geneva will have the power to penetrate sovereign countries with lockdowns and vaccine mandates.
This amendment could hit the Western world in places like Australia, the US, the UK, and Canada, where people didn't vote for this oversight.
Most people don't even realize it's happening.
Add to that, digital IDs create another dystopian lair.
It could lead to a surveillance-based technocracy where governments track every move.
California's rollout of digital driver's licenses and a January 2025 executive order from former President Joe Biden are pushing this forward, turning phones into tools that could enforce global health rules.
Worse still, this could spiral into dystopian outcomes like forced quarantines in isolated government camps, mandatory health implants for real-time monitoring, and a Chinese-style social credit system where compliance with the World Health Organization directives determines access to jobs, travel, or food.
If these amendments are enforced, nations could potentially be obligated to set up local enforcement bodies that answer to the World Health Organization, not their own voters or courts, leading to a future where dissenters are silenced through digital blacklisting or where entire regions are locked down indefinitely based on global health decrees.
unidentified
And the premise is for the World Health Organization, the Director General can still declare public health emergency.
Sure, he kind of has to go to the committee and make sure that there is some kind of agreement, but he gets to appoint the committee members.
So do you think there's going to be any resistance towards him declaring this public health emergency?
No.
We both know there won't be any.
And he can still issue the quarantine, isolation.
Tell us what type of diagnostic treatments, vaccines we have to recommend.
He can restrict travel into the area.
He can institute the, you know, there's still that vaccine passport language.
It's a little bit different, but it's still there.
bret weinstein
And the WHO has been counting on the fact that people will not pay attention.
And if they try to pay attention, they will find it confusing and bureaucratic.
And they will think the World Health Organization doesn't really have any power, and so they will just ignore it.
And that is the opposite of the right reaction.
We have to kill this off dead.
That is the only way to send the message that this was a completely unacceptable overreach from the get-go and that no part of it is tolerable to us, no matter how mild they make it sound.
We know what they're up to, as you point out by looking at the earliest drafts and seeing the jaw-dropping powers that they were attempting to commandeer.
tedros adhanom ghebreyesus
This accord is a generational opportunity that we must seize.
jon bowne
The Mockingbird media is predictably staying quiet on what could be the globalist's final desperate move for a new world border.
John Bauer reporting for Influence.
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unidentified
And if you don't have the NAC, you can't produce it for as much.
I see.
I think so.
chase geiser
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rex jones
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chase geiser
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rex jones
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chase geiser
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rex jones
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tedros adhanom ghebreyesus
Yeah.
rex jones
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chase geiser
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rex jones
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chase geiser
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rex jones
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alex jones
Last week, I was extremely critical of Trump and the 180 on the Epstein files that we know are there.
Not just a customer list.
And I said, we're here to get Trump to course correct and appoint a special counsel.
Now they're announcing that that's what they're planning to do.
You see, we engaged.
We're in a battle for control of influence in the White House with the globalists and different factions.
That's why their talking points are we're traitors when we criticize bad things and directions Trump's going.
No, we're the American people.
We are the plan.
So we trust ourselves and our conscience, the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, and the Bible, and our forebears.
And now there's more coming out that Trump is going to appoint a special counsel.
That's coming up.
Trump wants to, quote, set things right.
Well, haven't we been vindicated again?
Not about me being vindicated.
It's you being vindicated.
99% of you were totally pissed about this.
And Trump heard it and understood it and realized he was giving bad advice.
So now let's keep the pressure on.
This was a deep state trap.
I explained it in the first hour.
It's being archived X right now.
You missed it.
It's important.
And band on video.
But I was already planning to cover this, as I said last hour, right now.
And then just minutes ago, Trump out of the Rose Garden about to board Marine One said these reports that I'm going to give long-range missiles to Zelensky to bomb Moscow are not true.
Though Trump previously, a year ago plus, told fundraisers that he told Putin and Xi Jinping when he was first in office, if you ever invade a neighboring country, I will bomb your capitals.
And we know the neocons and the globalists have been pushing to give these missiles, even under Biden, to Zelensky so they can bomb Moscow, which will take us right into Armageddon, as the Russians have warned.
Well, just a few minutes ago while we were on break, Trump said, no, we're not giving them long-range missiles to hit Moscow.
That is a wonderful clarification and is great news.
You heard MTG very concerned 30 minutes ago on air talking about it.
So this is all developing in live time.
But according to neocons and the left, we're supposed to Republican constituents and citizens just shut up and do whatever the neocons want.
You don't tell Trump what you want.
You don't criticize escalating war.
You don't criticize keeping fluoride in the water the administration is now pushing for.
You sit down and you shut up.
That's what an American does.
They trust the plan, whatever the corporate media says.
No, we are the plan.
So here's Trump.
donald j trump
50 days, what happens now?
unidentified
Do you talk to Plimmer Putin?
donald j trump
Well, at the end of 50 days, if we don't have a deal, it's going to be too bad.
unidentified
Should Zelensky get more aggressive?
donald j trump
Yeah, the tariffs are going to go on and other sanctions go on.
unidentified
Should Zelensky target Moscow?
Should Zelensky target Moscow, sir?
Should Zelensky target Moscow or deeper into Russia?
donald j trump
No, he shouldn't target Moscow.
unidentified
Is that why you gave him more weapons, though?
I think he's going to be in the first place to trade as well.
I think he's going to be in the first place to trade.
donald j trump
No, we're not looking to do that.
unidentified
The Press: Mr. President, why are you giving why are you giving Mr. Putin 50 additional days to prosecute this war against the pro-hide I don't think 50 days is very long, and it could be sooner than that.
I don't think 50 days is very long.
donald j trump
You should have asked that same question to Biden.
Why did he get us into this war?
You should ask that question.
Yeah, and what did he tell you?
Why did he get us into this war?
You know why he got us in?
Because he's a dummy, that's why, and you don't cover it right.
But you should be asking that question to Biden.
Why did he get us into this war?
Because he's incompetent.
It would have never happened if I were president.
So we made a deal with Indonesia.
I spoke to their really great president, very popular.
alex jones
Let's stop there.
And by the way, on the economic front, massive victories that we need to get to coming up.
I'm going to cover some of the positive stuff, the border stuff.
It's amazing.
I got all these Islamic leaders from New York to Minnesota saying, we aren't from America.
We don't like America on their policy platform running for mayor, Senate, you name it.
I mean, these people, I got a bunch of that.
Believe me, I don't want to be spending all my time on the Sepstein stuff, but it's an issue of who's advising Trump.
Why is he making these terrible decisions and that we're able to get him off of?
Now, here's Trump at a fundraiser over a year ago.
This had already broken them, and now we have the audio saying what he told GZPing and Putin behind the scenes.
Here it is.
unidentified
So, Putin, I said, if you go in to Ukraine, it's a bar in Moscow.
I'm telling you, I have no truth to public.
It's public.
So, he goes like, I don't believe you.
donald j trump
I said, he said, no way.
And I said, way.
unidentified
And then he goes, I don't believe you.
donald j trump
I said, 10%.
But I said the same thing to them.
unidentified
I said, you know, if you don't want to bother you, he thought that was crazy.
alex jones
He said, 8 years.
donald j trump
I said, I have no choice against him.
alex jones
There's a bomb paid.
donald j trump
And he didn't believe either except 10%.
And 10% is already dated.
In fact, 5% would have been okay, too.
And we never had a problem.
We would have never had a problem.
alex jones
So that's what's going on behind the scenes.
Russia warns of nuclear armor gun after Trump's latest Ukraine move, which Trump's now saying he didn't really say.
Trump gives Russia 50 days to make Ukraine deal.
That's public.
Ukrainians praise Agent Melania for turning Trump against Putin.
Who knows that's even true.
Trump's new missiles will change face of Ukraine war as patience runs out.
Donald Trump asked Zelensky if Ukraine could hit Moscow.
Say people break on call.
Trump was asked by a reporter if he's going to give them the missiles to hit.
Moscow says, don't ask me questions like that.
So that's some of what we've got.
That reminds me of the guns of August, how World War I began.
But these are the big issues we're dealing with.
And there are bad people advising Trump to escalate these wars.
That's again why we're here, criticizing it as American citizens and as informed people.
Something the paid influencers that are supposed on our site don't like.
You're supposed to take whatever the corporate media claims Trump supports and support that mindlessly.
Well, we're not going to do it.
Now, hundreds of countries have lined up saying they're going to negotiate these deals favorably.
A bunch have already done it.
Trump has made a bunch of those announcements just in that same impromptu press conference you just saw part of.
Trump to unveil $70 billion in AI energy investments and a lot more.
I want to hit some of the economic news here in a moment.
And then I want to get into what the World Economic Forum is up to, further breaking up our families.
And we've got some big AI developments at the Pentagon we're going to be getting into as well.
But here's Trump speaking about some of the economic developments.
donald j trump
Pittsburgh, we're going to be touting about actually going to be numbers like nobody's ever heard before.
unidentified
It's mostly to do with AI.
donald j trump
We have tremendous investments being made, literally trillions of dollars of investments being made in our country on AI, artificial intelligence.
I don't know if the word artificial is a good word, but that's the word.
That's what they've chosen.
unidentified
So I think we're going to have a very successful trip.
donald j trump
We had a good call with the Texas congressman this morning, as you probably heard, and that went very well.
And you have any questions?
Yeah.
unidentified
Mr. President, Mr. President, Joe, the president will react to the latest number From the Labor Department saying that inflation rose slightly last month.
donald j trump
Very slight.
Essentially, they were exactly as anticipated.
Very low inflation.
So what you should do is lower the rate.
The Fed should lower the rate immediately.
unidentified
The tariff is a tariff.
donald j trump
We had a big win with the Supreme Court or the Department of Education.
And as you know, we want to bring education back to the states, take the federal government out of it.
A little tiny bit of supervision, but very little, almost nothing, like to make sure they speak English.
That's about all we need.
unidentified
Mr. President, what would you tell those people who might be in a struggling field of school right now?
What would you tell them?
donald j trump
Well, we have school choice, and we're getting school choice approved all over the country.
We just got it done in Texas, and school choice is the answer.
Yes.
If you have a rush of 50 days, what happens now?
unidentified
Do you talk to people?
alex jones
All right, so let's stop there.
We already played the Russia part of this.
Now, let's talk about some of the good news.
U.S. Treasury Secretary Besint says Formal process for Powell's successor has started.
Bloomberg News reports.
And it is the private Federal Reserve blocking interest rate cuts that they already done for the EU and others.
It's the same banking cartel, literally.
He's on the same board.
But they're not letting us have that.
And so Trump is moving to have him removed.
That is very, very good news.
Listen on Fox business.
Trump on Fed Chair Powell.
And then we'll go into Besant.
Treasure Secretary on inflation being stable and on the high-tech chips coming here and on the tariffs getting better and better how much money they're bringing in.
Let's play those close back to back.
donald j trump
The economy is roaring.
Business confidence is soaring.
Incomes are up.
Prices are down.
And inflation is dead.
It's dead.
We have a bad Fed chairman, really bad.
If he would lower the rates, if he would lower the rates, and I tried being nice to the guy, it doesn't help.
He's like a knucklehead.
Oh, he's a knucklehead.
Stupid guy.
He really is.
You know, each point, think of this, each point costs us $360 billion.
maria bartiromo
And that's the point, Bill.
The president wants rates to come down to make it cheaper to hold all this debt.
We've got $37 trillion in debt.
You say you're encouraged that you think power will step down.
What specifically do you believe is the catalyst?
Is it because he spent that money on a renovation at the Federal Reserve?
bill pulte
Well, I can't get inside of his head, but I can tell you what I'm hearing is that he's considering it.
I think he should consider it.
I think he should consider it very soon.
And frankly, I think you have a situation, Maria, where this building is going to be the end of his career.
I mean, who the heck spends $2.5 billion on a renovation?
Jay Powell has become a disgrace.
He's not reading the room.
He's not listening to our great president.
We have the greatest president in the history of the country.
We have the most popular president in the history of this country.
Why is Jay Powell not reading the room and also realizing that he has gross mismanagement with this building?
I think, Maria, when the facts come out about this building, you will see potentially fraud and many other things that have gone on.
And we can't have this stuff in the government.
The American people gave President Trump a mandate.
They don't want fraud.
They don't want all this other nonsense.
And Jay Powell doesn't seem to give a damn.
And in my opinion, he needs to be held accountable.
jonathan ferro
We've had a string of softer than expected inflation reads in this country.
We've had four.
We might get five at 8.30 Eastern Time.
Why do you believe that's signal and not noise?
scott bessent
Well, I mean, there's some persistence there, Jonathan.
And look, I do have access to the number of the night before, but when I'm coming on TV, I don't look at it.
So I don't know what the number is going to be at 8.30.
And I don't know whether it's going to be down, up, or flat, but I wouldn't put too much emphasis on one number.
I think it's the trend.
And I think one thing that Wall Street, a lot of economists, market in general got wrong early on was that tariffs were going to cause a substantial price level rise, which just hasn't happened.
jonathan ferro
And there are some people on the FOMC, the Federal Reserve, still worried about the prospect of that happening through the summer.
Is firing the Federal Reserve chair under active consideration in the White House and the Treasury in your administration?
scott bessent
President Trump said numerous times he's not going to fire Jay Powell.
He's working the refs.
And I've said before, I'm a basketball fan.
There are two schools working the refs.
There's the Bobby Knight School and there's the Dean Smith School.
President Trump seems to prefer the Bobby Knight School.
And I'll tell you, I went back over the weekend and looked.
And Bobby Knight won three NCAA championships.
My hero, Dean Smith, only won two.
unidentified
NVIDIA is filing applications to sell the H-20 GPU again.
The U.S. government has assured the company that licenses will be granted and NVIDIA hopes to start deliveries soon.
Can you attest whether that's true or not?
The United States is willing to let NVIDIA sell H20s once again in China?
scott bessent
Well, again, Anne-Marie, I think that'd be a judgment that the Chinese indigenous manufacturers, namely Huawei and some others, already have an equivalent chip.
So if there's an equivalent chip, then the NVIDIA H20 could be sold.
Because I can tell you, the one thing that we do not want is a digital belt and road springing up around the world because other countries or China are substituting for our American chip manufacturers.
unidentified
This is the same chip, though, that the Trump administration blocked with export controls in April.
So why the change in policy now?
scott bessent
Anne-Marie, you might say that that was a negotiating chip that we used in Geneva and in London.
unidentified
So this was part of the trade talks when it comes to Washington and Beijing?
scott bessent
Yes.
unidentified
Was it a quid pro quo then?
As you said it wasn't, but was it potentially to make sure that you can get the licenses when it comes to rare earths?
scott bessent
Yeah, I think it was all part of a mosaic.
They had things we wanted, we had things they wanted, and we're in a very good place.
I expect to meet my Chinese counterpart, the vice premier, in the next few weeks.
President Trump's able to create a lot of leverage here, a lot of leverage, because he's indifferent.
He's indifferent whether we take in the 30% rate or whether the Europeans come to us with a much better deal.
As I've been saying for a while, that if countries or trading blocs don't come with their best deals, then the rates could boomerang back.
So President Trump's leading this.
And what I will tell you is that a lot of the deals, and this is where his leadership's been invaluable, a lot of the deals that I thought were excellent deals keep getting improved upon every time he takes up The maximum pressure strategy.
lisa abramowicz
There is a theory in markets, and you don't even have to calm them.
They're pretty calm.
They're watching all of these rates, and they're not freaking out in parlance on Wall Street.
They're taking this in stride.
We're close to all-time highs, if not at all-time highs.
Do you see this as giving a green light to Trump, to President Trump, to keep going, to take hard-line approaches, and to keep trying to get better and better deals?
scott bessent
Look, I think this narrative of this obsessive focus on the market isn't right.
President Trump views this as a generational opportunity to reset trade in a fair and sound manner for the American people.
So the idea that some market ups or downs are going to be the deciding factor here.
What we are concerned about, and President Trump is laser focused on, is getting the best deals because we were not having fair trade.
And now we're seeing, with these countries coming to the table, the quality of the deals gets better and better.
So we're not going to rush just because of some market deadline.
Now, I think what the market's seeing is market's willing to look forward three, six, 12 months.
And this is going to be good for the U.S. It's going to be good for the global economy.
alex jones
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Look, the globalists with Communist China and others, since we were the dominant power for World War II, sold out the West, set up China, made a deal with them.
They double-crossed the globalists 15, 16 years ago, as you all know.
And the U.S. still held all the cards, the world reserve currency, still the best technology, the biggest military by far.
And culturally, despite all our problems, the left trying to make us be seen as pedophile devil worshipers in the planet, that was to undermine us.
People still like America the best.
So everybody's, basically everybody, other than like Iran and Russia and China and North Korea are coming over to the new U.S. alliance because Trump has announced we're open for business again and we're winning.
And of course, he said 30% tariffs on average.
But if you challenge him, we'll go up to 100 and something.
And then he goes off 100 back to his original 30 and they agreed to it.
People go, oh, look, he flip-flopped.
No, that was the negotiating strategy from the beginning.
And as long as we can keep the corrupt special interests from being able to manipulate the White House in war, the economy, culturally, we'll win.
But that's the ongoing battle.
And Ivan Rakeland, former Green Beret, Defense Intelligence Agency operative and lawyer up there on Capitol Hill, he's got the intel.
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He'll be joining us for the next 45 minutes in Jake Shields in studio.
But this just broke in Trump's ongoing press conference there on the White House lawn.
Trump's gone from eight days ago saying, shut it down, it's over, there's nothing there.
To coming out and saying what we knew.
The Democrats have had control of the Epstein file.
Only what they want to leave in there is in there.
So Trump says, okay, just shut it down.
I said, that'll Streisan effect.
Don't do it.
Expose.
It's another Russiagate thing.
They've now done that.
We've now seen Laura Trump, head of the RNC, one of the most competent Trumps, come out and say, no, no, we're going to do the right thing.
Trump says he do the right things, wants to set things right.
And now Trump's told Pamboni, fine, release whatever you think is pertinent.
President Trump just said this a little while ago.
This is what we need.
We don't want to give people like Nikki Haley the high ground or Hakeem Jeffries.
Release the Epstein files and let the chips fall where they may.
This is why people don't trust the government.
You can never go wrong with being transparent.
Redact the victims' names, release the lit rest.
But point out the Democrats had it and hid it and indicted Comey and his daughter and the rest of them were hiding it in New York.
You have to go on the offense with these people.
Here's President Trump.
donald j trump
The Attorney General has handled it very well.
unidentified
Did the Attorney General brief you on the DOJ and FBI's review, the findings of that review?
donald j trump
The Attorney General briefed you on what?
unidentified
On the DOJ and FBI review.
donald j trump
On what?
On what subject?
unidentified
Epstein.
On FCAN.
The review of the files.
Attorney General came on his fingers.
donald j trump
Very quick briefing.
unidentified
Did she tell you?
What did she tell you about the review?
donald j trump
And specifically, did she tell you at all that your name appeared in the she's given us just a very quick briefing and in terms of the credibility of the different things that they've seen.
And I would say that, you know, these files were made up by Comey.
They were made up by Obama.
They were made up by the Biden information.
And we went through years of that with the Russia, Russia-Russia hoax, with all of the different things that we had to go through.
We've gone through years of it.
But she's handled it very well.
And it's going to be up to her.
Whatever she thinks is credible, she should release.
unidentified
On Texas, how many more seats do you want the Republicans to draw five?
alex jones
So as of last night, he was going to move the administration to release it.
Then as of this morning, I made calls.
That's what they've been told, the DOJ.
No, Trump wants a special prosecutor.
And so he's not supposed to direct her exactly what to do.
So, oh, I would imagine she'll be announcing a special prosecutor.
The question is, how fast will that happen?
Will it happen?
And who should it be?
We'll ask Ivan Ranklin about that.
We come back.
But first, I want to get into Trump's reported calls with Zelensky about giving heavy weapons, cruise missiles to hit Moscow.
Now Trump is backed off of that.
Or was that disinformation?
According to Ivan sources, it's pretty serious.
We'll look at the tug-of-war battle inside the White House and who exactly the different factions are because it's not enough to get Trump in.
Just like eight years ago, you got to deal with the internal power struggles and what goes on with any major organization, any extremely powerful organization, and no organization more powerful than the executive branch of the United States government because we've had limited freedom compared to everybody else, massive freedom.
And so with freedom comes great prosperity.
With great prosperity comes great power and then great decline and decadence and then rebirth.
And we're at the middle of the decline, collapse, rebirth.
And we're hoping Trump can short circuit a long dark age here in the fourth turning and supercharge into the new golden era.
That's really what we're talking about.
Nobody wants Trump to succeed more than this audience, I know, and myself.
That's why I've been in abject horror the last eight, nine days, because I'm not for cover-ups, but whoever tried to run this cover-up, we know who's advising him.
It's not stupid.
And you have to know it would create the mother of all Streisand effects.
People don't know what that is.
That's Barbara Streisand builds a big mansion.
A local reporter reports on it.
She threatens the woman, makes a big deal about it.
So it blows up, becomes a top international story.
You could not do a better job to draw attention to this and make yourself look guilty.
Why in the hell did this happen when we know there's nothing in there on Trump?
We know the Democrats did control the file, Brennan and others.
That's true.
People are like, Trump's covering up saying now Brennan manipulated.
No, they had the file.
You think they left stuff in there bad about themselves?
That's what I've been saying.
It's a trap, like Admiral Akbar says in Return of the Jedi.
We'll be right back.
Stay with us.
donald j trump
Go on, and other sanctions go on.
unidentified
Should Zelensky target Moscow?
Should Zelensky target Moscow, sir?
Should Zelensky target Moscow or deeper into Russia?
donald j trump
He shouldn't target Moscow.
unidentified
Is that why you gave him more weapons, though?
Wait, I just got rain, so she's rain as well.
It doesn't have to be like this today.
donald j trump
No, we're not looking to do that.
unidentified
Mr. President, why do you think Mr. Putin is not 50 war?
Oh, I don't think 50 days is very long, and it could be sooner than that.
I don't think 50 days is very long.
donald j trump
You should have asked that same question to Biden.
Why did he get us into this war?
You should ask that question.
Yeah, and what did he tell you?
Why did he get us into this war?
You know why he got us in?
Because he's a dummy, that's why.
And you don't cover it right.
But you should be asking that question to Biden.
Why did he get us into this war?
Because he's incompetent.
It would have never happened if I were president.
So we made a deal with Indonesia.
I spoke to their really great president, very popular, very strong, smart.
alex jones
So as Marjorie Taylor Greene said an hour ago on air, and as I'm saying, and I follow Ivan Ranklin, as he's saying, there is a major tug-of-war civil war inside the Trump administration.
We've defeated the Democrats and their mechanisms and their deep state group to a great extent, the Brennans, the Clappers, and their operatives.
But you've still got the BlackRocks and the MI6s and the Massads and then other operators in there that are just with their own consultancy firms and law firms that are doing their own side deals that get in the way of our overall returning the Republic agenda.
And so that's where we are now.
China's still the big overall main muscle, but they're getting cut off to a great extent.
And so now you do have the British intelligence and the Israelis trying to come into that vacuum.
And there's a lot of people they're able to get business deals and things to who will then get in the way of our agenda.
So Ivan Ranklin has incredible contacts inside the Capitol, the White House, everywhere.
He lives up there.
And he's done this just in the last eight, nine years since he decided to get out of the military and Defense Intelligence Agency and the work he was doing there.
Thought he could do more on the ground.
He's an ultra-marathon runner, former Green Beret, recovering lawyer, operating at the intersection of national security, startups, politics, and law.
Ivan Rakelin on xrayklin.com.
We appreciate him joining us.
He sent me a lot of documentation, a lot of background stuff, a lot we can't say on air because of sources and methods.
We can give you general things.
I concur with everything he's saying.
He's on the ground.
I'm watching it from afar, 34,000 feet and my sources.
So we can tackle this wherever you want to start, obviously, with the Russia situation, the Iran situation, who's in the White House.
And then I want to segue into the Epstein fiasco and who was advising him to do this.
So I've been rankling.
Thank you for being here.
ivan raiklin
Thanks for having me on, Alex.
So, I mean, where do we start?
Because there's so much to unpackage.
I think the big picture kind of like you talk about 30,000 foot level, is we saw, I think, a little break about a week and a half, two weeks ago with the whole Epstein component.
So we got President Trump in.
I voted him personally six times.
But we also have to take a look now who is surrounding him to give him different pieces of advice on different things that are going on globally as well as domestically.
And so while we see what's going on with the cabinet and through the confirmation process, we kind of see the thinking of how those cabinet level officials think and are going to operate.
There are certain elements of the White House that don't require a Senate confirmation, or there are individuals that never have gone through a Senate confirmation or a political campaign themselves.
And so there's not much information out there about them, but yet they are holding very key and critical positions in the White House that have daily, regular, if not overwhelming, not only access, but the ability to convey what their interests are personally and through their broader network to influence who becomes a member of the administration and which information flows to the president
for a decision to be made.
alex jones
And naming names, and again, I understand that they were effective to get Trump in.
Obviously, Susie Wilds, this gore character continues to come up causing the whole Elon fight.
Even bragged about that.
ivan raiklin
I mean, I think his real name is Sergei Gorohovsky.
Born in Uzbekistan, Tashkent, based on what New York Post has recently reported on.
It begs the question, why is it that he wanted to avoid, you know, why did he change his name?
That'd be interesting to know.
Maybe there's something there.
There's a lot of smoke going on amongst the, I guess, those that are in the White House that have not been scrutinized ever publicly and never faced any sort of kind of research by those in the independent media.
And I think it's now time to look at those individuals in order to determine, are they the ones?
I mean, I don't know.
I'm not accusing anybody, but there's so much smoke and so many indicators to show, huh, is this individual who's the head of the personnel office at the White House, basically head of HR, he gets to have an outsized influence on determining which, who, who gets in to then fill the 4,000 appointed positions in the administration.
So if President Trump says, hey, I want this guy to fill this position, it comes down to the head of PPO to vet the individual.
And if Sergio doesn't want, or Sergei doesn't want that individual in the position, then he'll just create a dossier that I guess, you know, it could be true information, but leave out good stuff to then remove them.
One instance of that is obviously what occurred with the fallout with Elon Musk and Sergei Gorahovsky.
And I'm not sure President Trump may have been aware of that.
I mean, it's kind of difficult when he's trying to, you know, stop the weaponization at a strategic level and all the wins that are happening with Tom Homan.
I mean, I would give Tom Homan an A-plus.
So there are many, there are several individuals in the administration that I would give an A-plus or an A. Tom Homan.
alex jones
Sure, but how did this Sergio Gore- I mean, because it's on record he lied about where he's from and won't even try to get his national security clearance, but somehow is allowed to stay there.
And then I've been hearing even before the controversy with him running off Musk, which was devastating to Trump land losing that and all the dangers that come out of that.
And from all my sources, I mean, they say this guy is a complete and total menace.
We need to spotlight him.
ivan raiklin
Right, absolutely.
And my sources, you probably have way more than I do, but I have so many sources that tell me throughout the entire administration, not only in the White House.
alex jones
No, no, let's be clear.
You have way more sources.
You live up on Capitol Hill.
I hear about you from everybody.
I've known you for nine, 10 years, but you live up there.
You're very effective as a lawyer in Green Beret and Defense Intelligence Agency, former guy.
No, you keep giving us the best info.
You're literally living on Capitol Hill.
You have way more sources than I. Just did everything you were telling me on the phone over the weekend in the last few weeks is what I've been hearing first, you know, when Trump first came in.
They said this Sergio Gore is a big problem, a key gatekeeper who himself is very mysterious.
You really, and then now we have disaster after disaster coming out of this guy.
ivan raiklin
Right.
So then when you start to pull the thread and research this individual, Mr. Gorahovsky, you know, very mysterious, nebulous, kind of hiding in the shadows, but that's not the important part.
The important part, he essentially, I would give it, he probably has over 50% influence on deciding who gets appointed to what position throughout the entire cabinet and administration.
unidentified
And then we always said that would be the key.
ivan raiklin
I'm getting a lot of indicators from people that I trust and know that there's some, I think there's going to be a bombshell coming.
Maybe as early as today, I'm trying to confirm some things about this individual.
I'll give you a hint, maybe.
Remember the video, I guess, pictures of nefarious things that were going on in the Senate a few months ago?
alex jones
The gay sex.
ivan raiklin
If you know what I mean, I think there's going to be some evidence.
And again, I'm not going to say it until I completely verify and confirm everything, but I'm getting so many breadcrumbs from probably a dozen sources that are leading in that direction.
And then when you start to do the link analysis, again, going back to my professional training and what I used to do, I used to teach intelligence analysis.
You start to look at it like at an individual of Sergio Gore.
And I've never met the guy, I don't think.
I have no personal issue.
Like I don't have any reason to be angry or have disdain for him, you know, either way.
But when you start digging, and a lot of people are telling you what's going on, and then you start to look at, oh, wait, he's on the board of the Kennedy Center.
Okay.
Kennedy Center is like the cultural performing arts, and that's kind of our pinnacle of governmental influence.
alex jones
But it's really a private crossover governmental intelligence operation.
ivan raiklin
And then when you look at other individuals, where did I mean?
Brian Ballard and Pam Bondi.
Sorry.
alex jones
No, I mean, I'm just saying.
Sorry, go ahead.
I was going to go into the whole history of the Kennedy Center for people who don't know.
That's really where the WEF first got its power was from the Kennedy Center.
And the WEF's really just a front for the Kennedy Center.
So we think, oh, it's where operas and mutual.
no, no, folks.
It's where the Harvard mafia and the globalist mafia meet.
And it's a major, major power node.
Go ahead.
ivan raiklin
So, I mean, last couple of weeks, what would have been the biggest, I guess, backfire decisions?
It's what Pam Bondi has been doing.
It's the Epstein stuff.
And so it begs the question.
You start to look and dig into Pam Bondi and her relationship potentially with others with staffing and Sergio.
And then all roads seem to lead to a couple of different lobbyist firms.
Remember when Marjorie Taylor Green was on the show just about an hour ago, I was listening in and she said, you know, there are a lot of swamp deep state lobbyist interests that are essentially trying to get President Trump to make decisions that are totally counter and contrary to what the mandate was for him to get into office and what he campaigned on.
And so now we have to root all of this out.
And phase one is to expose which individuals are behind it.
And when I say individuals, like, well, I was kind of tooling around the other day looking at Farah reports, right?
Laura Loomer's digging into this Congresswoman who chairs the GOP in Congress, and she's going after her for her ties with Cutter.
Well, lo and behold, there's a major lobbyist company by the name of Mercury and Ballard Partners that Pam Bonnie has a relationship, had a relationship with.
I mean, I didn't vote for President Trump for him to basically guarantee that Ballard Partners and what's the other one?
Mercury PR make payroll.
That's not what I voted for.
I'm sure that you and your audience didn't vote for that either.
But when you have individuals with four decades of incestuous, generational rot creation in our institutions that are in the system, guess what?
You're going to get them because they know how to maneuver.
They know how to maneuver within the White House.
They know how to maneuver within Congress.
And so, and the private sector.
alex jones
Well, I mean, let's just be clear about Gore.
ivan raiklin
Let's just be clear about this in D.C. on K-Street.
alex jones
And let's be clear about Gore.
If you were trying to get a job with the federal government at a low level and you get caught lying about where you're from, which he's been caught, says he's from Maltese.
No, he's from a totally different country on record.
Or you're trying to get a job at the FBI and you lie about where you're born, you're probably going to get indicted.
So the FBI is way lower level power.
ivan raiklin
If you're not going to get the job, you're going to be indicted.
Exactly.
alex jones
Yeah.
Instead, this is the gatekeeper for who gets hired to the government.
This is a disaster.
ivan raiklin
And when you look at the relationships, right?
Take a look at the relationships of what he has with the individuals of the two entities that I mentioned, Mercury and Ballard.
And it all starts to make sense.
Now, I don't have definitive proof, but when you have, I don't know, a trillion pieces of evidence and indicators, you're getting kind of close to almost certain.
And unfortunately, a lot of these activities, I haven't seen any criminality to it.
It's all in your face, publicly done activities that when America and those that voted for Trump see this, it almost begs the question, does he have the equivalent of a Hunter Biden and a Mike Pence back in the White House?
And if so, who are those individuals?
Because the indicators are there.
And I would suspect that those individuals represent not only their own personal interests, but they're also shaping our foreign policy.
Why the 180 on Ukraine with, oh, we're going to go ahead and fund Ukraine?
I get it.
He's getting pressure from the Republicans in the Congress, such as Lindsey Graham.
alex jones
And I want to get to that in a few minutes because that's the big story here.
And then Trump kind of doing a about face in that statement today about, no, we're not going to bomb Moscow as his smarter advisors come to him.
But going back to this individual and others.
Regardless, as you said, I was about to say they hide it in plain view.
And you literally just said this in your face.
I was going to say plain view.
When he blocked Musk, NASA was clearly a lot better.
And Musk didn't even want anything extra just to keep what he got.
He does the best job.
It delivers projects at about half the cost with better outcomes.
All he ever wanted was a fair shake.
He was against the EV mandate.
They tried to spin it.
Gore comes out and brags.
Yeah, I got rid of Musk wanting to brag to the DC inside that they didn't want Musk in there.
ivan raiklin
I think that's the first strategic mistake, massive mistake of this administration by pushing Elon out.
alex jones
Well, exactly.
Let's speak to that.
And then why, how, how they're hiding it in plain view.
I mean, this was a disaster.
Go ahead.
ivan raiklin
Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, you can have, I don't even know where to start on this other than to say that, okay, you're trying to figure out who you're going to staff.
Okay.
The person that does the staffing and vetting is the head of PPO.
unidentified
All right.
ivan raiklin
And then you ask the question, like, who is his boss?
And is his boss providing top cover for the decision to basically push out Elon Musk?
I don't know.
That's something that all viewers must look into.
And then once you come to that conclusion of who that individual or individuals are, then you got to decide like, how do we shine a light on them and get them to turn?
I mean, here are our options.
You can remove these individuals or you can get them to start moving in our direction.
I'm like, I guess I'm nice.
A lot of people say that I'm too aggressive or whatever.
But if I don't see criminality or treason, then I'm like, I'm willing to kind of like negotiate a little bit.
So the negotiation here is if you start following Sergio and others, Pam and whatever you, whoever you want to call out, to do the following, meaning how about arrest those involved in everything over the last 11 years that Joe Biden pardoned others for, because all of them were illegitimate pardons.
And then if you do that, I'm okay with it.
I think some of your audience would be Okay with that.
But when they don't do that and instead they do a complete opposite 180 of what we mandated President Trump for, then now it's a problem.
Now we get involved in the proverbial civil war that you talk about.
And if the American public is mobilized, this White House lobbyist cabal will not be able to withstand our motivation.
alex jones
And let me bring this up right now.
And it is about putting myself in the story.
It's the truth.
Eight and a half, nine years ago, I became, along with Roger Stone and General Flynn, target number one.
It came out in the news all because they didn't want good advice inside and outside.
And they wanted to send a message to everybody else that could tell the truth.
Don't go after the globalists, the Fiona Hills and people in there, because nobody would tell Trump.
They all knew, but they didn't want to start a fight.
I would.
So would Rogers.
So would Flynn.
So we were all targeted.
That's all come out and been declassified.
They got a much bigger problem.
They had Elon in there, and I've watched the body language and see what came out.
Susie Wallace did not like him because he was trying to put in his more than two cents.
And so they were able to run him out, piss him off, and now turn him into an enemy, super unwise, for their own little special interest.
And absolutely, if these cabals wanted to be in there and get contracts that aren't illegal, but are a little untoward, as long as they arrested the globalists and dismantled this because they're coming after us, we got to get them.
And as long as they were America first, we're willing to negotiate.
But the fact that they start going against everything we stand for and watering things down and saying don't investigate Epstein and let's go ahead and have war with Russia.
It's like a hard stop, like a car wreck sound.
We're like, okay, you're a problem.
We just took on the Democrats.
We just took on the ChiComs and they need to know the honeymoon's over is what you're saying.
ivan raiklin
Yeah, I mean, I'm okay with you saying no to me and be like, you know what?
I'll give you a little breadcrumb here and there.
But when you come out with four middle fingers in my face and start caressing my face, that's a problem.
And I think that's where we're at right now.
Everyone saw it for what it was.
Last week was the first time we saw, I mean, I thought most of these folks online, the MAGA influencers, were complete psychophants, I think like you call them, that would never budge or say one negative comment of President Trump.
And all of them in cadence were like, no, no, you either go full bore and releasing the Epstein information for full transparency and accountability, or we're going to consider you as a pedophile protector.
And it doesn't stop.
It stops all the way at the top.
So if you're going to go, and we saw that, your audience, my network, it's unacceptable.
And I put an ex post out.
I said, if those are my kids, guess what?
That results in immediate capital punishment.
And I eagerly look forward to a jury of my peers as a result of that immediate capital punishment.
If that were to be done to my children.
Now, having said that, maybe we can go ahead and release the evidence and start the process of gaining trust.
And I suspect that the reason why you're seeing this hesitation moves by Cash Patel and 180s by Cash Patel and Dan Bongino, they're way lower in the chain, right?
So if Cash Patel and Dan want to hire some people as their staff to get to deep state accountability, they got to run it by Sergio Gore.
unidentified
Hmm.
ivan raiklin
Maybe Sergio Gore says, hey, if you don't expose me, then I'm going to go ahead and provide you some folks that you want on your staff.
So that's the leverage I think.
I guess just based on my analysis, I don't have any direct evidence of that that we see that is probably going on in the background.
alex jones
Let's talk about this, Ivan.
Last Sunday, they put out the ridiculous memo, no human trafficking, basically Epstein Jaywalk, and he killed himself.
Then Trump comes out and says, yeah, no, I gave the order.
ivan raiklin
Speaking of the memo, you got to beg the question, who leaked it and who was it leaked to?
And Keos, huh?
What about Mark Caputo and his co-author?
What's his name?
Eisenstadt?
Why don't we ask those two guys and say, hey, buddy boys, who leaked it to you?
You always say high-level White House source or DOJ source.
It's unsigned.
So then it begs the question.
You run it through your AI little system, whether it's whatever agent you want to do or do a search query.
And then it begs the question.
It's either if you're a White House reporter, do you think it was leaked by somebody at the DOJ or the FBI?
It's probably going to be leaked from somebody at the White House if you're a freaking White House reporter.
So then let's do the process of elimination.
Hmm.
Who would that have have that information about the DOJ?
Would it be Sergio Gore?
I don't know, maybe.
Or who else that would be able to influence things?
And I'll let people ponder that question.
I have my own thoughts on that.
alex jones
Well, let's go here.
Let's go here.
ivan raiklin
We need to keep digging.
alex jones
We're going to break.
So let's go here.
180 on Epstein case last Monday, and now about a 130 today.
Okay, we're looking at a special counsel.
We're going to do it.
That shows what we already know.
There's a battle.
And that's why the neocons, the globalists want to say it's traitorous for the original constituents to say we don't like something because that gets to Trump and he listens and it shows how real Trump is.
And so now Trump comes out earlier.
Well, play the clip when we come back and just an hour ago and says, no, we're going to go ahead and release stuff.
So this is 180 from a 180 and now we're back about a 140.
ivan raiklin
Yeah, I agree with that.
But one last thing I want to say before we go on that break is that do you really think that President Trump wrote that truth post that was ratioed times a trillion?
No.
My gut feeling tells me that probably the same individual or individuals that we're referring to in the lobbyist ecosystem that has access to the lady that writes President Trump's truth posts.
I don't want to give her name out.
alex jones
A woman writes something versus something.
ivan raiklin
It doesn't sound like President Trump's voice.
alex jones
A woman wrote it.
Or somebody trying to act like a woman.
ivan raiklin
Why do you think that?
alex jones
We could read it together.
I mean, the boys are a little...
I think Susie Wils wrote it.
We'll be right back.
Stay with us.
alex stein
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unidentified
Yeah.
ivan raiklin
I like it.
roseanne barr
I really like it.
I'm going to have to get on this stuff.
alex jones
You're sure Kennedy taking it.
Kennedy literally gobbles it.
unidentified
When RFK Jr. mixes something into his drink, people pay attention.
Plenty Folks are wondering what was in that little bottle he uncorked during a flight.
What is Bobby Kennedy Jr. dropping into that glass of water?
Methylene blue.
Mel Gibson also praised methylene blue on Joe Rogan recently.
alex jones
Stuff works, man.
He must be doing something right.
That ripped bond is 73 years old.
alex stein
I take it about every other day or every, you know, other couple days.
I've been fasting a lot.
I take it on my fast days and it helps me with my appetite.
alex jones
Did you hear our last guess what she said happened to her?
unidentified
No.
roseanne barr
What?
alex jones
She said brain fog just lifted.
roseanne barr
That's what it feels like.
I feel like, wow, there's power in coalescing all your thoughts.
unidentified
It clears the brain fog where you're actually able to focus more clearly.
alex jones
I feel lighter.
benny johnson
It's really interesting.
I almost like feel smarter.
alex stein
So I like it.
Makes me feel good.
I've been taking it.
You just put a couple drops in and I'm not trying to even sell it.
But guys, you should really try it.
Telling you too, if you're trying to kind of lose some weight, that methane blue has helped me lose a lot of weight.
alex jones
I mean, it's so good, it's scary.
It's just amazing.
So yes, it really does work.
It varies person to person, but it's amazing.
unidentified
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After I take it throughout the day, I start feeling better and better.
For me, it's like a fog lifted, but it was like a veil lifted off, you know?
Incredible.
roseanne barr
Best product that I've purchased so far.
unidentified
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Get it while you can.
Yeah!
alex stein
Get that methylene blue.
unidentified
Feel good!
alex jones
Get that freaking entertainment ball!
unidentified
Yeah!
Yeah!
alex jones
you you you you By the way, I've been so busy dealing with trying to stop nuclear war and the Trump administration being taken over from the inside by corrupt globalists and corporate interests that are just as bad, mainly just rogue actors for money.
We're defeating the globalists, but here come the opportunists, that I haven't even told you that 11 days ago, the Democrats filed in state court to seize InfoWars as early as next Monday.
And you'd think I'd be telling you about that.
And people have seen us survive so many attacks.
It's not that after all these years of fighting, I've given up.
It's just people don't take this stuff seriously because we've survived so much.
You go, oh, well, you'll be fine.
It's like some family member that's been fighting cancer for six years.
And no, they'll be fine.
They've beat it for six years.
You have dinner with your uncle and two days later, they die finally after surviving pancreatic cancer for six, seven years, which is a record.
I had dinner with my dad's great uncle, such an awesome guy, Leonard.
He came to town from Houston.
We got Mexican food.
It was great.
And he'd had more radiation therapy, survived over six years with it and hugged him, told him I loved him.
He drove off with his daughter.
And three days later, he was dead.
Now, I'm just saying, like, I mean, they could be here Monday.
I mean, so just everybody keeps, oh, yeah, it's going to be a big deal.
All right.
And we keep filing stuff and maneuvering, but because we survive, they go, oh, yeah, this is a marathon, folks.
This is like a 15-round heavyweight championship.
This is not, and it's like they add rounds.
Every time you win, it's a deep state.
You don't get the title.
They just, oh, we'll add 12 more rounds.
We'll add 20 more rounds.
We'll add 100 more rounds.
But that's the fight against good and evil in history.
So whether today or tomorrow, because I got a bunch of guests, I'm going to do a major update.
What's crazy is when they got all this at the court and the judge authorized it, the same one that ran the show trial, it didn't even hit the news because they've been so embarrassed so many times trying, but it's in the filings and they're coming with the Sheriff's Department.
We can't block it, which we're trying to do right now.
So, and I'm just at peace with it.
I'm just going to, notice we're doing extra broadcasts.
We're up here at midnight, nine to midnight doing shows now.
We're just using every minute here as special, but that's where we are.
And I think it's emblematic as above, so below, you know, the micro, the macro, that it's the same thing with the Trump administration.
People think we've won this thing.
We haven't.
Ivan, can you speak to that and then get back into Epstein and where that's going?
And then this war situation with Russia.
I know your Pentagon's horses say, no, it looks like this is happening.
I don't just go off mainstream media, but we know Trump said before we might give heavy weapons to Ukraine.
Zelensky said he said that.
Now Trump backed off of that today.
What do you make of that?
ivan raiklin
Yeah, I think the bigger picture is that we have an entire U.S. government where a majority of the folks that were duped by the COVID con, they were all injected with the jabs.
They're still in place down to the lowest levels, up to the highest levels of government in every different department, Department of Defense, I mean, et cetera, et cetera.
So you have these countervailing forces that, yeah, at the top level, you have a Pete Hexeth, a Tulsi Gabbard, a Bobby Kennedy, a Tom Homan, right?
Christine Ohm and some other ones.
But down the chain, Sergio Gore gets to decide who surrounds those individuals.
And then even below that, you still have the DEI folks and the COVIDs, zealots that are probably walking in in D.C. I'm in DC every once in a while.
I still see people with face toilets.
They call them masks.
But I mean, it's just disgusting.
So you still have the woke mind virus just incipient, completely flooding the zone in these institutions.
And so, and what does Pam Bondi do?
She just sits there and goes on phone news, probably at the direction of another person that she used to work with over at one of the lobbyist firms that we just discussed, in order to kind of perpetuate and protect the entire deep state apparatus.
And if what I'm getting about Sergio is true and there's a cabal of like-minded and like-activity-actioned individuals are being placed at different positions, then we're really no different than where we were under the Biden criminal syndicate in terms of the cultural dynamic of our federal workforce.
That's a problem.
alex jones
Well, I've been harping on this because it's something I haven't harped on because I think it'd just be prima fascia on its face.
People don't know Latin.
MTG gets attacked everywhere when she comes out and says, no, you should release the list.
This is a fiasco.
I get attacked.
You get attacked.
We come out and say, hey, this gore guy should be making all the decisions.
We get attacked by the corporate media, the left, and all the fake influencers saying we're traitors for not doing whatever officially comes out.
No, we put Trump in.
We are the plan.
And we need to be engaged more than ever as the grassroots.
That is so fundamental.
We're not the Democratic Party.
And the good news is, as you said, last Monday, finally got a bunch of these influencers that just parodied whatever they were told to finally break.
It shows that there is a major soul in MAGA, that there isn't the Democratic Party.
So I'm really proud of people revolting against this and starting to see Trump do a major course correction back to reality.
unidentified
Yeah.
ivan raiklin
I mean, you have Hodge twins coming out of the woodwork.
We have Steve Bannon even coming out and basically calling things out.
alex jones
Tucker Carlson.
ivan raiklin
Maybe it was Tucker Carlson.
Speaking of, I mean, what about this whole cutter, you know, lamb-basting cutter?
We talked about it briefly.
I mean, the way I look at it, it's almost as though my analysis shows me with a low level of confidence right now until I get further evidence to support it, is that it's almost as though Laura Loomer is only attacking individuals that, and I love her, by the way.
I love her, how she operates, very tenacious, but she's going after certain individuals and calling them out for their foreign influence, peddling, and relationships, which I'm not a fan of.
So I agree with her there.
But then there are other individuals that are also in the White House and Pambondi that also have those deep-seated ties with Qatar and with China and with, now I just recently learned today or yesterday with Ukraine.
So then it begs the question, is the 180 shift by President Trump making these influenced peddlers money hand over fist in order to be able to, I mean, at the end of the day, like make money hand over fist, but they do that by changing course in terms of policy.
And yeah, I mean, there's a lot there.
There's a lot more to be discussed.
alex jones
Well, you're being subtle about it, not to burn your sources, but the way the legal payoffs happen is these individuals in key policy positions get what foreign entities and corporations want in governments, and then suddenly they get giant contracts.
ivan raiklin
Yeah, so I mean, it begs the question is, well, it's accurate what I agree, and it's accurate what Laurel Loomer's saying.
It's what she's not saying.
alex jones
She's saying it's selective.
It's selective.
Oh, Tucker Carlson had his plane ticket paid for for an interview.
He's a traitor, though he's been consistent for decades.
But people that are actually on the payroll of China or Qatar or Israel, we don't discuss them as long as they're part of the.
ivan raiklin
Yeah, I mean, for example, I think Steve Bannon mentioned there's a couple instances in Michigan.
Remember when Gretchen Whitmore came to the White House?
alex jones
Yes.
ivan raiklin
A couple of weeks back, the governor of Michigan?
I was like, whoa, whoa, that's something not kind of MAGA America First.
She was one of the traders that was actually behind the 2020 election heist in Michigan.
unidentified
Hmm.
ivan raiklin
I wonder who's behind that.
And you start to pull that thread and you're wondering, oh, okay, there's a little bit of, you look at the business.
And then you look at the filings, lobbyist filings, and it all starts to match up.
And oh, by the way, in two weeks, Alex, in mid-August, I think, by mid-August, we're going to get the lobbyist filing reports up through July 31st.
So we're going to see Q1, Q2 information.
And I suspect everything that we've discussed today is going to be solidified as absolute truth because we're going to see names.
We're going to see individuals.
It's all in the filings.
We just have to look in there.
alex jones
Well, you sent me some documents.
And I know with sources you don't want to go too far, but it's Pam Bondi, Susie Wiles, and Whitmer are all in Bebba the same ChiCom companies.
And then you've also got Bondi and Wiles with Pfizer.
And now the DOJ is killing lawsuits against Pfizer.
And now the DOJ Solicitor General overrode a federal court banning fluoride that Kennedy wanted that's cut and dry.
And that's, and then we learn that Susie Wiles is connected to the chemical lobbying company.
And you can see it right there.
Sorry.
You can say, oh, it's all legal, but it's very unethical.
And we can say we don't want that.
ivan raiklin
Yeah, I agree with the fact that the Chinese component, let's dig into that a little bit for a couple of minutes.
In Florida, I think Steve Mannon mentioned it, Groshen, G-R-O-T-I-O-N is the name of the company.
I believe it has ties with China.
I mean, it's Chinese-affiliated company.
And for some reason, they're getting an outsized kind of, I mean, they hired Mercury, I believe it was, partners, PR company, to go ahead and lobby.
And next thing you know, some decisions are made related to that company that benefited.
So going back to kind of what Laurel Loomer is not saying, my gut is telling me that the people that Laurel Loomer is going after, and I hope I'm wrong.
I want to be wrong on this, are individuals and organization or individuals that represent organizations and interests that are competitors to Mercury and Ballard and the affiliated groups.
So essentially the attacks, while they're factual and they're righteous, there's other elements to it that I'm not sure if Laurel Loomer knows.
alex jones
No, no, no, she's given Laura's great.
She's smart, but not that smart.
She's being given limited tips on what are seen as competing factions, of course.
ivan raiklin
And I'm afraid she may be being played.
alex jones
Well, that's why I stay out of factions.
I'm sure it's happened to you, but unlimited.
Oh, this company wants to give you money.
This group, I mean, I would have the Nature Conservancy try to run ads, you know, 15, 20 years ago.
But as soon as you take it, you got to go with their agenda.
It's not even illegal.
They just, all these groups constantly offer you money, but here's the talking point.
And I just say, nope, I have my own self-sell products or straight up stuff like a satellite phone company or a.
ivan raiklin
That's why you're the only one willing to talk about this.
Like one of very few.
alex jones
To me, it's an ethical issue, but not even it was.
It's so imagine the trouble of having to take money from people and then jump through all their hoops.
unidentified
That sounds impossible.
ivan raiklin
Yeah, it's, I mean, it's, I mean, people make their decisions based on their own circumstances.
Most people took the jab.
Most people wore the face toilets, you know.
I mean, the whole psyop.
I mean, you were one of the few that pushed back and didn't bend a knee.
I'm one of the few that never bent a knee on a single issue.
You know what?
I'm willing to be destitute and go off of ramen.
I had a discussion with my family a few years back when it was all going down.
I said, you know what?
I'd rather not bend a knee on anything.
And we might have to eat ramen.
And to be honest, we pretty much did for a little bit until we started to recover.
So, and I'm not complaining.
I never lost my freedom.
Just like you say, they're going to try to shut you down on Monday.
Well, guess what?
They mess with the wrong men that are not going to bend a knee.
And guess what?
We're not the only ones.
More and more people have courage to start now to fight back against the globalists.
And I'm hoping that even though, again, going back to Steve Bannon, he does not like Elon Musk.
I just think that we're in such an existential time that we need all allied affiliates that can help us get out of this.
And let's get our heart beating and pumping before we go after the knee break or the toenail that's not fully excised of the fungus, right?
Let's go and triage this nation and order.
alex jones
I love Bannon, but it's clear Musk was in Babuchina.
Everybody was.
Last five years, fully affiliated with us, came over all the way.
And then we let Susie Walls and others run him out, which I said would have bad repercussions.
So did you.
But everybody's welcome to their opinion.
All right.
So bottom line, Trump just came out.
I'm going to play that clip and go to break and let you go.
Play the short clip, guys.
Trump said about an hour ago that, okay, yeah, we're going to keep the investigation going.
Pam Bondi can release it.
The word is they're going to appoint a special counsel.
That shows the power of Trump supporters not drinking the neocon.
And I'll say it, they've been using the Israel.
ivan raiklin
We want him to succeed.
alex jones
Absolutely.
Well, I don't know.
This is one question for you because you Bernhamlis, if it's a tele agency, is so much more a lawyer, really smart guy.
You know, I don't think Israel is the most powerful thing and runs everything, but on Middle Eastern policy, it's heavily involved and manipulates stuff.
But I am seeing them with the power vacuum, with the Democrats in trouble, the Chikoms in trouble, not just all these other corporate interests that are, you know, in there getting in the way of things for their own self-interest.
But Israel is, I see the Israel bots, the Israel spokespersons, the Ben Shapiros, Mark Levins coming after me and others, not just saying, hey, this Iran thing got out of control, or, hey, we need to release the whole Epstein thing, calling me a traitor.
I mean, I see them heavily now really trying to take over the administration.
What's your brief take on that?
ivan raiklin
I think it might be more sinister than that.
I mean, you got to look in, you know, B.B. Netanyahu is one of the few leaders on the planet of the 193 countries that has been essentially in power or affiliated in power for at least a couple decades now, right?
And so then you have to ask the question of, okay, who was part of his 2020 campaign in Israel?
alex jones
Susie Wash.
ivan raiklin
Is that individual also involved in, let's just say, a U.S. presidency?
And then you have to ask the question is, which individual or individuals in the White House advised President Trump to go ahead and completely change on being the peace president and start bombing Iran on behalf of what I what looked like to me on behalf of Israel?
Okay.
Now, I'm not against removing the nuclear threat that's out there, but it just didn't look like it coincided with what our mandate was.
There are many other ways, I think, to address that.
Or it just happened so quickly.
The decision was made.
And then all of a sudden, next thing you know is Netanyahu is what?
Saying that he's nominating President Trump for a Nobel Peace Prize.
unidentified
Hmm.
ivan raiklin
How does that take place?
And then when you start to dig into the Nobel Peace Prize, and I did the research of how that process works, and you notice that a previous chairman of the five board members of the Nobel kind of committee, he lied for a while that he had met with in his personal residence with Jeffrey Epstein.
unidentified
Total coincidence, right?
ivan raiklin
So it begs the question, was that bombing of Iran and the pivot to say we're not going to do anything with Epstein somehow involved in or related to a promise for a Nobel Peace Prize?
So that President.
alex jones
Well, you just nailed it.
I mean, couldn't have gone wrong.
I know General Flynn.
ivan raiklin
That's dark, but I mean, that's just what comes to mind as I read the evidence.
alex jones
Well, in closing, and I'm going to go to break, come back up with Jake Shields.
I appreciate your time, Ivan Ranklin.
You know, you're highly recommended by Flynn.
I've known you nine years or so, done a great job.
I really trust your opinion.
Plus, I almost always agree with it from my own research.
That's what I guessed on that I know are accurate is my point.
I always really studied threat matrices, and I saw the big corporations, the private Federal Reserve as number one, the BlackRock combine, then Communist China, then the EU, then the remnants of the British Empire, then Israel heavily involved in our business.
But people say, well, why suddenly, and I've always criticized Israel.
I need to, suddenly I'm on Israel like white on rice.
It's because I've seen them roaring in and I've seen real signs of them in their newspapers bragging they basically run the U.S. I don't think they do yet, but there's definitely an attempt.
So we create this power vacuum kicking the Democrats in and in comes this whole problem.
Do you agree with kind of the previous threat matrix I listed in order and that Israel's kind of moved up to number two now under China because of their particular special interest and how they're positioned?
ivan raiklin
No, I think what the way I see it is that China is the outsized threat, right, in the global order.
Russia, if it wanted to be, would be probably in that second position.
Iran's up there.
But then Israel poses a, not a kinetic threat, but it poses a threat to an influence peddling scheme where they do it through kind of legal mechanisms, you know, but it's 100%.
alex jones
In fact, let me correct myself.
I don't mean military threat to lobbying.
I didn't mean military threat, Major.
Exactly.
I meant lobbying internal court intrigue.
Yes, exactly.
ivan raiklin
Absolutely.
And I think they may have mastered that.
And maybe, just maybe, a lot of evidence shows it that, you know, Ghislaine Maxwell, her father, and then Jeffrey Epstein, they've kind of mastered of how do you use the limited resources you have to create maximum benefit to yourself.
And one way to do that is through blackmail, right?
One way to do that is through kind of having dirt on folks or targeting specifically individuals to be able to kind of do your bidding.
So then it begs the question.
If you're a foreign intel service, China, Iran, Russia, Israel, I mean, you name the adversary, right?
North Korea, Venezuela, then who, which individuals do you want to target so that you're able to shape policy in your favor?
Obviously, Venezuela is going to start to look at those shaping Venezuela policy.
So it won't go all the way to the top of the White House, but then maybe it will, because guess what?
If I'm not mistaken, when I was researching it, because there's so much data, either Ballard or Mercury was behind lobbying efforts, not only with Global Vision in Venezuela, but also, I think there was another company that was Venezuela-based.
And remember the whole Chevron discussion that was taking place a couple weeks back?
alex jones
Sure.
For people that understand, it's not even how powerful a group has been in the past.
Now, if they're in control of the White House and the chief of staff and of hiring, those two people, Gore and Wiles, all you got to do is target them.
And now you've got control.
And we're right back where we were eight years ago.
But something even more dangerous is not even the Democrats now and the BlackRock and the Federal Reserve.
Now it's the Israelis and others.
Incredible.
Ibn Rakeland, how do people find out?
ivan raiklin
Last thing I want to say on that note, if I may, Alex, is that the when you take a look at, remember the video that was floating around where it was Pete Hegseth at a cabinet meeting with right next to him was John Radcliffe, the CIA director?
alex jones
Yes.
And Radcliffe's leaning back all having an orgasm?
ivan raiklin
Yeah, basically.
And you start to think, like, why is that?
Is there anything to it?
Or is this just like, you know, conspiracy videos?
I started to dig and I look at, you know, John Radcliffe's wife and where does she work and which law firm she works for in Texas.
And who's on the board of that law firm?
And lo and behold, Kevin McCarthy.
And who else is on that board?
Huh.
I guess it's none other than the previous Secretary of State and the previous Secretary of State.
alex jones
And that's when he commits to basically letting Israel run things.
For people that don't know, Trump will usually make a decision in public.
They know that.
So they're hearing Trump basically serve his ruling there that our new alliances with Israel, period, basically.
And he basically has an orgasm on television.
ivan raiklin
Yeah, because what's his name?
Mike Pompeo is on the board of that law firm.
Now you can just say like, oh, whatever.
You're just connecting dots.
Yeah, I'm just connecting dots.
But where there's smoke, there's fire.
And where there's fire, there's a dumpster fire.
And right now, Tugger's right there, there's an extra dumpster fire.
alex jones
Not just Israeli, Lekudinik takeover of our government.
It's serious.
Thank you so much, Ivan Reichland.
What's the best place for people to find you, Ivan?
ivan raiklin
I'm on X while Elon allows us.
And on Telegram and Rumble.
alex jones
All right, Ivan, God bless you.
Talk to you soon.
Great job.
ivan raiklin
God bless.
Thanks, Avon.
unidentified
All right.
alex jones
Thank you.
unidentified
All right.
alex jones
We're going to break.
Have somewhat of a debate with this guy, Jake Shields, former MMA fighter.
And I didn't really, I met him before, but I forgot I met him.
And then he was criticizing me.
And I don't care about all that.
I don't want to talk about that.
But now I've seen some of the stuff.
He's more prominent.
He's here in town.
So I said, why not have him in there and have a discussion with him?
Interesting fella.
So that's coming up in the fourth hour.
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alex jones
All right, I remember years and years ago, now that I got to know him, watch him meeting Jake Shields, I think you were here in town for MMA or something.
And he's a five-time world champion, fighter, turn, podcaster, commentator, Jake Shields, JJFightBackPodcast.com.
And needless to say, he's not a big fan of Israel.
So some stations don't carry this first five.
So we'll get into all the meat and potatoes coming up.
But I'm glad you could be here.
I had emergency stuff and had to do some DOJ stuff.
So I had to leave town.
So you couldn't come on last week, but I guess you hung around.
So it's good to have you here.
jake shields
I've been doing a lot of different stuff.
I went to disaster relief for a couple of days.
I've been really busy or only one day, but lots of stuff.
alex jones
Wow.
I want to get your view on that.
jake shields
Training like Gordon Ryan, all those guys.
Tony Hinchcliffe.
Been a busy week.
alex jones
Well, awesome, brother.
Good to have you here.
jake shields
I'm glad, but glad to see you and be friendly again.
Like, you know, we had a little misunderstanding, but you're a guy I have always, you know, admired and stuff.
So it sucks.
Sucks when, you know, maybe I said some things I shouldn't, but who knows?
alex jones
Well, now that I see you in person, I do remember meeting you.
Was it for like 10th Planet stuff or something?
jake shields
I had a couple times.
I can't remember exactly where I was.
I think through Joe once, through.
alex jones
Yeah, yeah.
So I've hung out with you.
jake shields
And then we got Audalon Gray.
alex jones
And then it becomes some deal where I saw something about he knows about our blue check marks.
I didn't really recognize.
I said, I don't know this guy.
You're like, bullcrap.
Here's a picture.
And I'm like, oh.
And then, yeah.
jake shields
You beat a lot of people, so it's easy for you to get.
I think I was extra offended because you wouldn't know this, but when you were banned from Twitter, I fought so hard to get you back with Elon, DMing him.
I fought so hard for your free speech.
alex jones
Well, thanks for doing that.
I wasn't really honest when I got kicked off.
So I'm just like, five years went by.
I didn't remember any of them.
jake shields
I just felt offended that you didn't say like, oh, Elon shouldn't have took my check mark away.
But the past can be the past.
alex jones
Yeah, I'm sorry.
I have trouble keeping track of all the stuff going on.
jake shields
I understand.
alex jones
I kind of, but I'm glad you're not.
Like, if you see all this, there's not a lot of gossip here.
It's all.
And I hate censorship, but I'm dealing with All this stuff, you know?
jake shields
You're dealing with a lot in life.
You've gone through a lot.
I think it's insane what they've done through you with all the laws.
alex jones
But enough about me.
You guys that have been critical of Israel have been vindicated because I never really thought Israel was that powerful, but it's definitely making a move.
I mean, Ivan Rakelin is Jewish, Green Beret, you name it.
And, you know, he, in a lawyer, and he's dialed in.
He just said, no, Israel's trying to take over the U.S. right now.
jake shields
Oh, yeah.
That's what I saw and I had to speak up.
And that's why I was going so hard.
I mean, that's why I got my check mark.
But everyone's seeing it now.
It's waking up.
Maybe I saw it a little earlier, but once I saw it, I realized I had to risk my life, put everything on the line.
I realized this was the most important moment at the moment.
We have to push.
And the awakening is happening.
But now what's next?
As you can see, their blackmail operations like Epstein, the control they have, the fact that Trump clearly won't release them.
It shows you they can completely control our government.
So how are we going to get rid of these?
alex jones
Well, they're definitely trying to completely control.
We can debate that, but I just, I was always worried about China and stuff.
But you heard Raiklin, he's an expert.
He's like, yeah, militarily, it's China, but influence, it's Israel.
It's like a soft coup, which is, it was Cicero said, it's the traitor you got to worry about.
The enemy openly comes with a military.
You can fight that.
jake shields
They betrayed us from the then.
Like they take our military secrets and they sell them to China.
They stole our nuclear program.
alex jones
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I sell it too.
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jake shields
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alex jones
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jake shields
Got some more.
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alex jones
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Stay with us.
Jake Shields.
Yeah, now I remember probably like six, seven years ago, I was out with Joe Rogan.
I guess he was at dinner with us or something, and Jake Shields was there.
And then I met him a few more times, and there becomes some beef online.
And I was like, I don't remember who this guy is.
He gets really pissed off just because I can't keep track of all this.
But once I later watched his show, oh, yeah, I know that guy here in person.
So I apologize for that.
But moving on from that, that's behind us.
jake shields
That's in the past.
alex jones
You're here right now.
And I guess on the Israel issue, I've been focused on China and the globalists and the big banks and the Federal Reserve.
And then people always accuse me.
And I've talked plenty about Israel and USS Liberty and all of it forever.
And Larry Silverstein and 9-11 and Netanyahu and the neocons.
And then when I get accused all the time of people that only cover Israel, working for Israel, it makes me automatically kind of go, these people are all full of crap.
But now Israel, we just had Defense Intelligence Agency guy on.
Tucker's exposing it.
General Flynn, he's not anti-Israel, but Israel under Netanyahu is trying to take over the White House right now through Susie Wilds, through their consultancy.
It's happening, and it's a big problem.
Not a military takeover, but a bureaucracy intelligence takeover.
So you guys that have been harping on that, I'm sad to say you're vindicated because now it's out in the open.
But the good news is people are really waking up.
I think you agree with that statement.
How is Netanyahu and their lobby going to respond to that?
jake shields
They're going to double down.
They're not going to give up.
Like you see how arrogant it is.
He walked into the White House and gave Trump a gold, a pager.
A pager is like a death threat.
If you're handing your pager, that's they kill people.
And then Trump pulled out his chair and gave them the White House.
They clearly got something on them.
There's the Epstein files and blackmail, that's a big thing they do, Israel.
It's not new.
Ray Cohen, who was Trump's mentor, he ran blackmail operations.
He's a gay Jewish guy.
He had blackmail of J. Edgar Hoover, who was the head, was the FBI, RCA, FBI.
Head FBI.
He had blackmail of him like dressed as a dressed as a trainee, giving a blowjob.
That's why he gave that to Meyer Lansky.
That's why Meyer Lansky, the head of the mafia, who's again, Jewish, not Italian, never went to prison.
All the Italian guys did.
So it goes beyond just bribery.
And this Netanyahu is so arrogant.
So it's the world's waking up.
alex jones
By the way, that's true in even mainline criminology, but it's not on a history channel, that when the Italian mafia went against the Jewish financier mafia, that's when the FBI was green lit to finally go, okay, La Cosa Nosra exists.
Until the mid-50s, they said it didn't exist.
Then the media and the Hollywood only said mafia was Italian when every group had mafia.
The WASP mafia is so powerful they didn't call it that.
They called the CIA.
And literally, the Jewish mafia had the FBI shut down the Italian mafia because they got too big for the bridges.
jake shields
Yep, they had blackmail on Hoover, so they went after and shut down the Italian mafia.
And then the Jewish mafia, they infiltrated her government.
So that's the problem.
It's not the Jews.
I have Jewish friends.
You know, that's the problem with saying the Jews.
It's not the Jews.
It's the Jewish mafia has managed to infiltrate her government and take it over.
alex jones
And that's why I've had an issue.
I've criticized Israel plenty, but everybody that literally thinks if I slip on a banana pill, Jews did it, and they go, you know, and they love Hitler and stuff, there's that other extreme insanity.
But Hitler's been dead for 80 years.
We're dealing right now with Netanyahu and Mossad trying to take the government over.
jake shields
No, exactly.
It's currently going on.
And it goes beyond Netanyahu.
I mean, he's obviously a major, major power player.
He actually helped steal nuclear triggers from America for their nuclear programs they stole from us.
He's like an evil man.
He disrespects America.
alex jones
They sell it all to China.
jake shields
Yep.
He brings bags of dirty laundry and throws them like, wash these.
He just completely disrespects us.
He disrespected Trump after the election.
He said he called and congratulated.
alex jones
First world leader to congratulate Biden.
jake shields
And then Trump kicks his ass, kisses his ass, calls him the greatest man in the world.
It's so embarrassing.
I was a Trump supporter, but it's like, I didn't vote for him this election.
It's like, clearly something's wrong.
alex jones
Well, what's happened with the Jewish lobby is they're using World War II to say, if you don't support us, you're Nazis.
Both my grandfathers in the Army Air Corps, they both almost died.
They would never even talk about it.
I never got my mom's dad's file, but when we got my grandfather's file after he died, my dad found it many years later in like a lockbox, you know, B-17s, you know, volunteered more than the 22 missions, did two more missions.
So I guess 60 plus missions out of North Africa, into Italy, then out of Italy, all that, you know, planes blowing up.
His buddy's all dying.
He would never even, he said, oh, I was Just, you know, I did nothing in the war because he just couldn't even talk about it.
Meanwhile, I'm almost don't exist because of fighting Hitler and I get called Hitler by the ADL.
I take real, that pisses me off.
I'm not Hitler.
You guys say you're Captain America?
No, you're Captain Israel.
And I'm sick of your shit.
jake shields
Yeah, yeah, fuck the ADL too.
That's a, that's that they're coming after me, obviously.
No, the whole thing, it's, we look at this, they use the Holocaust to feel guilty, but the Holocaust, it wasn't really in the history book till the 70s.
The first prayer time it was ever mentioned, they kind of put it in a book in 61.
Then they started making movies about it in the 70s.
Then it was pushed.
Our parents and stuff weren't taught about the Holocaust.
It's something that they came up with in the 70s.
Then Holocaust Museum started popping up.
So and the first, at first with the Neumberg trial, they tortured a guy for three days until finally he said, oh yeah, I gas Jews with chambers.
Gas chambers were built years after the war.
alex jones
Well, that's a whole nother complex debate.
jake shields
I mean, we'll get to that conversation.
alex jones
No, no, but do you know what would happen if all of our power plants and food processing were bombed for years?
People starved to death in mass.
So my dad's dad, again, would talk about that.
My dad told me he would never tell me.
But because after the bombing campaign, he was an officer, so they put him in charge of food convoys in Italy and then in Germany.
And it was just dead bodies everywhere, typhoid, you name it.
They did have all these, it was dead bodies everywhere.
jake shields
There was definitely bodies in the camps.
There's no denial about it.
alex jones
Well, there was 24 million Germans died.
So there was a lot of dead people.
jake shields
The whole war was.
alex jones
And Hitler definitely had a final solution to put Jews in forced labor camps.
jake shields
100% agreement there.
The rest of it, I'm not making a strong case either way.
I'm just saying.
alex jones
Well, no, no.
The issue becomes with the exaggerations.
But I mean, you know, it gets worse than that.
Did you know the top SS officer was this Otto Otto Sikarski or whatever?
He was like the top SS guy.
He got hired by the Mossad at the end of the war.
jake shields
Wow, really?
alex jones
Yeah, I'll look up the exact name.
I always get Austrian, but it's like a Polish name.
jake shields
They're so good at infiltrating from within.
That's how they win.
They infiltrate the other side.
They have spies everywhere.
alex jones
You know, Joseph Goebbels was Jewish.
jake shields
I knew one of the guys.
I didn't know it was Goebbels.
I thought it was someone else.
alex jones
A bunch of them.
jake shields
There was a couple of Jews that worked for Hitler.
I didn't think it was Goebbels.
I think he wasn't because he wasn't a big fan of the Jews.
alex jones
Well, let's just, oh, yeah.
Let's pull up a picture of Joseph Goebbels.
jake shields
He's a crypto Jew.
alex jones
Oh, my God.
My issue is, that's another issue.
I've studied the Nazis.
They were into the occult, really bad guys.
So just because one group's got problems doesn't mean the other group's good.
Does that make sense?
jake shields
100% make sense.
And I haven't done enough deep research to have a strong opinion on it.
alex jones
I mean, Joseph Goebbels, he looked pretty Jewish to me.
jake shields
Could be.
alex jones
No, he was Jewish.
Came out he was.
jake shields
Yeah, the problem with...
alex jones
Hitler was a quarter Jewish.
jake shields
Yeah, people say that, but I don't think there's really any evidence of it.
I think that's more.
alex jones
All you know about his father being an illegitimate son of the Rothschild house in Vienna?
jake shields
I've heard it.
I just don't think there's really strong evidence.
alex jones
Well, the British wartime report declassified in 1976 says he was.
jake shields
Like, where does this come from, though?
alex jones
It was a British wartime report.
jake shields
Probably from like his enemies.
alex jones
Why would the British say he was quarter Jewish?
jake shields
Make people try to turn the Germans into.
alex jones
They never released the document until it was declassified.
jake shields
I'm skeptical.
I'm willing.
alex jones
You know why Hitler had that mustache?
You know why Hitler had the mustache?
jake shields
He had that scar across his nose.
alex jones
He thought the nose was too big.
jake shields
I'm skeptical of him being Jewish, but I'm always willing to listen to other people.
alex jones
Well, I made a joke once on air that you want to attack.
I'm Jewish.
I'm not Jewish.
Just so you know.
Do I look very Jewish?
Jake, I'm not very Jewish.
jake shields
I don't have a problem with Jewish people.
I find it people always tell me, like, you hate Jews.
You hate Jews.
alex jones
No, I don't hate Jews either.
I'm just telling you, I'm not Jewish.
jake shields
I don't even like, I just got to the point where I'm not going to constantly sit there and say, I don't hate Jews, because if people constantly accuse you of something, it's like, hey, fine, fuck you then.
alex jones
Well, I'm proud of everybody's heritage, whether they're African or whether they're Jewish or Chinese, whatever.
But I am European.
I mean, there's not many people you run into every day who relate to William the Conqueror.
I am.
So I'm Viking, basically.
jake shields
No, everyone should be proud of their heritage.
That's what I tell you.
These pro-white groups, they get bashed for it, but other groups don't.
Like, why can't people be pro-white?
I'm pro-white, but I'm not anti-black because of it.
alex jones
Well, exactly.
I don't like all the anti-white stuff by some black people, but then I don't blame all black people for it.
I judge them by their activity.
jake shields
100%.
alex jones
Well, what do you make of some people I see online?
God, what's their names?
They just say all Jews are bad.
They're all spies.
You've got a ton of Jews that are against all these wars and against that.
jake shields
No, I don't think that's good.
I think I understand people get radicalized because they see like these Telegram channels of laughing at dead kids.
They see like some of these Jews online laughing at it.
So they start being they're all like that.
But there's no group of people that are all bad.
You never want to vilify an entire race.
alex jones
Okay, well, let's just talk about facts.
This saying America is Hitler and any conservative is Hitler has backfired.
And now it just gets bigger and bigger and bigger.
And people think it was too hot outside.
The Jews did it, which have big issues with Israel and Netanyahu.
Where do you see this going now that there is a literal giant reassurgence the NDL calls anti-Semitism?
I call it people around the world who never even thought about Jews being called Hitler all day are a little bit sick of it.
jake shields
Well, yeah, when they keep calling you an anti-Semite a Jew hater, it turns you that way.
I've been called that.
You know, first thing, you know, I started so light, like, hey, I hate all these babies getting killed.
Why do you hate Jews?
It's insane.
And as far as where is this going, I don't know.
It's going to be a long, hard battle.
And I think unfortunately, unless some of these Jews reflect and change their attitude, they're going to get, people are going to start hating them.
Like, here's a crazy example.
I went out, there's this group called Patriot Front.
They're a pro-white group.
I went out to do disaster relief for them.
They're out helping the community.
The ADL is bashing them for helping people.
alex jones
So you don't think the Patriot Fronts run my feds?
jake shields
No, I did originally, but after I went and met with them, you know, multiple times I've met them now.
I've met family members, kids.
I've done work with them.
alex jones
Well, that doesn't mean that some of the members don't mean well.
jake shields
There's probably some members that are feds, but as a whole, the group...
alex jones
I mean, that's the guarantee.
But do you know about...
jake shields
I thought they were feds too, and then I met with him.
alex jones
Thomas Russo is welcome to come on the show.
jake shields
Yeah, I was blown away when I met this guy.
Like, I was like, wow.
alex jones
Well, why do they wear masks and all the same uniforms and pull up in cars without licensing?
jake shields
Because lots of them will get fired.
Plus, they're banned from all social media.
So he was trying to catch attention.
alex jones
Is this Russo, right?
jake shields
Yeah.
He's such a, yeah, that's his group.
He's such a sharp, sharp, sharp young man.
He's only 26.
And again, I wouldn't be part of a white-only group, but I think he has the ability to do that.
alex jones
Well, I mean, everybody says whites are inherently evil and they're such anti-white.
I don't blame people that think that's what they should do.
I get the psychology, but I mean, this would take me hours to hit the Patriots front.
Yeah, I was shocked how like Blood Tribe, all of it has Fed written all over.
jake shields
Yeah, I was really shocked.
I agreed when I first saw them.
100% agreed where you came from until I met with them, and I was just shocked.
Now I've hung out with them multiple occasions.
When I went into disaster relief with them, I'm like, well, I know you guys prioritize white people, but we're not going to.
alex jones
Were they doing disaster relief in their outfits?
jake shields
No, no, no.
We were working hard, and Thomas was leading.
alex jones
You're talking about the floods in Texas.
jake shields
Yeah, yeah, the ones that are right here.
We went out there, saw the memorials.
We helped people.
alex jones
So what did you do?
jake shields
We were clearing out houses, helping people try to find family albums, clearing it out, like anything they wanted to do.
It was like hard work.
And we were out there.
They were out there for several days.
Unfortunately, I could only go one day.
People are so thankful.
You know, one lady was crying as I found her family album for her.
They went through a lot.
I walked by the memorials of those girls that died, that camp.
It's like, I'm a strong man, but like, you know, like seeing, seeing the kids there, it was the closest I've come to crying in a while.
Just seeing this, it's like, it was, it's brutal what happened out there.
It's just devastating.
And you know what?
These guys are helping.
I don't think feds would go out and work like that.
alex jones
You know about Eliem City in the Southern Property Law Center running it?
jake shields
What is that?
alex jones
That's where they set up the Oklahoma City bombing?
jake shields
I don't know much about that now.
alex jones
They're very good at getting people roped in.
Remember, you know about Randy Weber, right?
jake shields
Yeah.
alex jones
How the FBI tried to recruit him in to infiltrate white supremacist groups.
When he wouldn't do it, they came and killed his wife and stuff.
jake shields
Yeah, yeah.
Terrible.
alex jones
They got expert psychological warfare people that go into these groups.
jake shields
I agree.
I think you should talk to him because I'm really good at reading people.
alex jones
Patriot Front guy, book him.
jake shields
And I did two hours.
I spent, like I said, that's why I spent days around these guys because I wanted to watch how they interacted, how they treated Thomas.
And then they started bringing their families around me, their kids, because I can see they started treating me as a brother.
At first, they were a little standoffish towards me, but then they started treating me like a brother.
alex jones
I know, but what I'm saying, Jake, is just because the members who may mean, well, made you convinced the thing was good, you got to know what's at the center of the spider web.
jake shields
No, I agreed with your arguments until I met this guy.
I recommend you talk to Thomas.
Like I said, I was highly impressed with it.
alex jones
You got his number?
Call him after him.
jake shields
Yeah, I do.
alex jones
Well, let's call him after the show.
jake shields
Let's do it.
And I'm not endorsing all this ideology, by the way.
alex jones
I'm just saying that looks like how they show, but any key battleground area where there's about to be a vote for the Democrats.
jake shields
I tweeted out that they were feds.
So it's like I 100% understand where you're coming from.
But like after spending time with this organization, I'm really convinced they're not.
alex jones
Well, I'm just going to say this helps the Democrats this look.
I mean, I just, you know, I look at this, and if I was a fed, this is what I would do.
jake shields
Yeah, no, I did kind of tell Thomas that, and he said he has no social media, so he needed to like catch attention.
So maybe he would stop doing these type of marches once he gets bigger.
I'm not sure.
He's banned from X. He's banned from Instagram, YouTube, Rumble.
Banned from Rumble.
How crazy is that?
alex jones
Well, that is a sign that they're real.
They're banned everywhere.
jake shields
Yeah, why would they be banned feds everywhere?
No, I highly call him after this.
Because it's one of the things, because I was in 100% agreement with you, but I'm like, you know what?
Why don't I go talk to these guys?
Cause no one else is.
And I don't see feds working that hard.
Like, we worked hard out of that disaster relief.
That was.
alex jones
Was the leader out there?
jake shields
Yeah, he was working hard right alongside us.
Which makes it easy to work hard, you know?
alex jones
Well, big picture.
Let's play this clip of Trump.
This is Trump about two hours ago doing a 180 from his 180.
So first, we're going to release all the upsteam.
Then nothing exists.
We're not going to release anything.
To now, yeah, Pam Bonnie can release whatever she wants.
Laura Trump goes out and says we're about to do a bunch of stuff, release stuff.
Now the word is they're going to have a special counsel over it.
Why would Trump do a 180 from saying he'd release it to saying he wouldn't release it?
Now saying, okay, we will.
Here it is.
donald j trump
I think the Attorney General has handled it very well.
lara trump
How many more?
unidentified
The Attorney General briefed you on the DOJ and FBI review, the findings of that review.
The Attorney General briefed you on the budget.
donald j trump
On what?
unidentified
On the DOJ and FBI's review.
donald j trump
On what?
On what subject?
unidentified
FDI.
On FDA.
The review of the files.
The Attorney General came on your finger.
donald j trump
A very, very quick briefing.
unidentified
Did she tell you?
What did she tell you about the movie?
And specifically, did she tell you at all that your name appeared in the film?
donald j trump
She's given us just a very quick briefing.
And in terms of the credibility of the different things that they've seen, and I would say that, you know, these files were made up by Comey.
They were made up by Obama.
They were made up by the Biden information, you know.
And we went through years of that with the Russia, Russia-Russia hoax, with all of the different things that we had to go through.
We've gone through years of it.
But she's handled it very well, and it's going to be up to her.
Whatever she thinks is credible, she should release.
lara trump
On Texas.
donald j trump
On Texas, how many more seats do you want to have?
alex jones
All right.
So why do you think Trump did this?
I mean, all my sources say Mossad blackmailed.
Not that he even did it, but people close to him, Trump's covering for people is what I've been told.
jake shields
Yeah, definitely.
He's covered people.
And he is in the files.
What he's in for the files, we don't know.
The fact that Elon Musk said it and he didn't respond, if Elon Musk said I was in the Epstein Files and I wasn't, I'd be like, I wasn't.
And also, Cash Patel and Joe Rogan asked him.
alex jones
I was about to say, this adds a lot of credibility to Elon.
jake shields
Exactly.
Because, I mean, imagine if Elon said you were in the Epstein Files.
alex jones
I'd be like, no, I'm not.
jake shields
Obviously, you could potentially...
Yeah, there could be a lot of different things in there, but it could be as bad as fucking kids.
So if someone says that, yeah, I'm going to say I didn't do it.
That's a big deal if Elon Musk says that.
And the fact that he wouldn't respond and Cash Patel was on Joe Rogan that day, and would he say something like, I'm not comfortable asking that question, answering that question?
That means, yeah, he's in the files.
What he's in there for, now we don't know.
There's a wide range of what you could be in the files for, but clearly he's in the files and he's running cover.
I think, I think it may be more running cover for these powerful Jewish donors.
It was clearly an Israeli blackmail operation.
You know, the prime minister of Israel flew from Israel 34 times and I think four years to go meet with him and he would sneak in.
Like, how crazy is that?
34 times for personal meetings?
This is like it was funded by that, what, that Wexner guy who his horror organization was funded to help Israel.
He was a math teacher, then he was a billionaire.
They don't know how he got his money.
alex jones
And that was Bill Barr's then.
jake shields
I think he's connected.
alex jones
Well, the guy's no, no, the school, the private school.
jake shields
That's where he was at.
alex jones
Yeah.
jake shields
Yeah.
You know, there's it's so many connections everywhere that you can't.
It's impossible to deny that it's Israel.
It's insane.
There's still people trying to say it's not Israel.
Alan Dorshowitz, he's the die.
He's the lawyer who took him to Israel first.
I think he's involved in the operation.
I don't think he was just on the client list.
alex jones
Well, I'm not defending Dorshowitz, but I don't know.
But like people have a right.
People have a right to a lawyer.
It's like Bannon interviewed Epstein and has a movie come out called Monsters.
So they say he's involved.
I mean, no, Bannon interviewed him.
jake shields
Yeah, I don't know anything.
But I think that is true.
alex jones
But that's the reason I have trouble getting good lawyers.
I do now is they all accuse him of being me.
You see what I'm saying?
jake shields
Yeah, but I think just because you talk to someone doesn't mean you endorse their ideas and stuff.
So I agree with that.
I talk to people that I strongly disagree with.
So I didn't know Bannon.
alex jones
But if you're Epstein and a powerful guy, you're going to hire the top lawyer in the country, Alan Dershowitz.
I agree, Adam Baracks are running the blackmail operation.
Hey, what do you make of the former Israeli Promise?
The other one flipping out of this now.
jake shields
I haven't seen much of that.
But Dershowitz wasn't just his lawyer.
He was out there all the time.
He's the one that brought him to Israel.
They were really, really tight in many other ways.
Like, he's the one that first introduced him to, I think, a lot of these people.
alex jones
Why do you think Dershowitz is saying release the file then?
jake shields
Just a bullshit to make because he probably knows they won't.
Because he knows they're not releasing the real files.
alex jones
Well, that's what Trump said.
And people said, oh, you're covering for Trump.
No, the Democrats have had control of this thing for decades now.
jake shields
Because they're both both shit.
alex jones
So whatever they've got, whatever they've got, they've already curated.
jake shields
Yeah, both sides are on this shit.
That's why no one's releasing it because both sides are guilty.
That's why everyone's like, oh, Trump's not on it.
The Democrats released it.
It's like, yeah, because they're on it too.
That's the problem.
Both sides are compromised.
So how do you vote a way out of this?
alex jones
Well, here's my deal.
I've been accused of a lot of stuff I didn't do.
So proof comes out.
I'm not going to sit there and say it.
But yeah, it looks really bad what Trump's been doing.
jonathan ferro
Yeah.
jake shields
And also, he's failed us with the Ukraine war too.
That he wasn't in that and he's keeping that going.
There's been like over a million deaths in that war.
That's like a million.
alex jones
Well, and I'm not defending that either, but Russia's got to come to the table too.
jake shields
Yeah, but like, what?
Like, are we even negotiating?
Like, really, realistically, Russia is probably going to win that war.
And now there's over a million people.
alex jones
They've already won.
jake shields
Billions wasted, million dead.
What have we accomplished?
alex jones
Well, the problem is NATO's not giving up.
And then Trump wants to face save.
But I agree.
Trump's suddenly in the last month been acting really different.
And after Elon came out and said that about Epstein, it was like it all broke loose after that.
jake shields
Yeah, I didn't vote this last election because I was seeing these signs right before and it vindicates my opinion, I think.
And I didn't tell anyone not to vote because clearly the other option was even worse.
But I just couldn't put my name behind Trump and he's showing why.
alex jones
Yeah, you know, the reason I hate this Epstein thing is for a lot of reasons, but obviously Trump's doing so much good.
I'd rather be covering that, but then I have a responsibility to cover the bad or I'm part of it.
jake shields
But what good is he doing?
I guess the border?
alex jones
Oh, these trade deals are good.
I mean, the tax cuts for working class, ooh, that's going to...
Well, it's literally finally tax cuts for working people in middle class, but they're big.
They're big.
jake shields
Yeah, no, no.
Tax cuts are always big, so I don't know the exact tax.
alex jones
That like doubles receipts, what I've seen.
This is going to be big.
jake shields
I haven't seen the exact tax cuts, so I don't know.
alex jones
They're massive.
jake shields
But I strongly.
alex jones
No tax on tips.
jake shields
That's good.
It doesn't affect me, but it affects a lot.
alex jones
Oh, that's gonna be.
jake shields
I didn't know anything to help the middle class.
I would rather.
alex jones
Yeah, and tens of thousands of kids they found.
They're finding more.
These raids are real.
I mean, my point is, is I don't throw the baby out in the bathwater.
jake shields
Yeah, I don't think he's all bad.
I think people make the problem on both sides of he's all good or all bad.
alex jones
Well, that's the problem.
The Democrats are all bad.
So I'm not a lesser or two evils guy, Jake.
I just, I mean, like, I can't sit there and go, I'm going to jump out of this leaky boat into no boat at all.
jake shields
I hate the Democrats, but maybe we could find some common ground with these guys.
I don't know.
Like, not all Democrats are crazy.
Like, like their leaders are, but if you talk to these people, if you talk about Democrats, you realize a lot of times they want the same things as you.
So we need to find a way to get.
alex jones
Yeah, yeah, man.
I mean, 20 years ago, maybe Democrats are evil.
jake shields
I agree.
Their leaders are, and some of them, like, look what they did with January 6th.
That was evil pretty much.
alex jones
Man, you got open pedophilia with them.
You don't need to have it stuff hidden in some file.
You got Maorgas smuggling 350,000 kids in.
jake shields
It was a bit, how many missing kids?
It was in.
alex jones
350,000 under him, man.
And that's my answer.
Hey, Trump, you know what you really do about Epstein?
Arrest Maorgas and the Democrats, and we'll just shove about Epstein.
How about that?
Let's go back.
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All right.
I don't just go off this breaking Daily Mail article and just believe them.
I have a lot of sources.
I made some phone calls this morning.
Indeed, Trump is looking at a special counsel.
You saw him earlier at a press conference say he's telling Bonnie to release whatever's there.
The Daily Mail now reporting exclusive.
Trump's FBI boss, Dan Bongina, who was going to resign over the weekend, escalates Epstein feud with Pam Bondi with bold plan to address failures and the lack of credibility and transparency.
He says he wants a press conference and have everything released and to basically give people a roadmap of what is going to be released.
So while the deputy director has many significant operations underway that he finds very important to see through, he does plan to continue to fight for transparency and accountability for failures of the Epstein Saga, including a press conference from the Attorney General to explain discrepancies in communication directly to the American people.
The Justice Department did not respond to requests.
And so Patel, for his part, dispelled conspiracies that he was also considering a departure from the department's botched handling of the review.
Look, I saw her tell the truth about the hidden stuff in New York they raided and got from the FBI that the Democrats controlled.
And so then I saw them go deer in the headlights a few months ago and say, it's all over, nothing happened, go away.
So I'm not sure who the bad guys and the good guys are here.
Are they just wanting Pam Bonnie to go on there and embarrass herself?
jake shields
I think it was true what she said.
She had the files, and now they're trying to run cover.
And I think this is all just a bunch of bullshit to keep us confused.
They're not giving us anything.
I hope I'm wrong.
I would love to be wrong about that, but I don't think they're giving us anything.
alex jones
Well, I'm not telling Trump how to do a cover-up.
At Wargame, this listeners go, oh my God, he's for cover-up.
No, I just said, if you're going to cover up, you say, yeah, we're investigating.
Why come out and say he killed himself?
The Easter money's real.
Santa Claus is real.
There was no foreign intelligence.
There were no victims.
You know, basically, Jeffrey Epstein was a model citizen.
Why would you do that unless you had a deal with people blackmailing you to say that?
jake shields
That's what I think is happening.
They cut a minute out of the footage they released.
How crazy is that?
Here's the footage with a minute cut out of Epstein's thing.
alex jones
And then it's from around the corner of the cell bay.
jake shields
Yeah, the cameras went out.
The guys fell asleep.
It's clearly all bullshit.
But the people's waking up.
The awakening's happening.
I don't know what they're going to do.
alex jones
Well, that was a nice question.
You said during the break, false flag.
jake shields
I think you're doing another false flag.
And you were actually early on with 9-11.
You were one of the first guys talking about the Israel is probably connected to 9-11.
alex jones
Well, there was no probably.
It was Netanyahu with the neocons in charge then.
jake shields
So it's so crazy that you, like I said, saw that back then.
I think they're going to do a big false flag on America.
I think they're going to attack it and they're going to try to blame it on the Muslims.
alex jones
Well, what people do with my show, and I've been on the air 31 years, in April, 31 years, 31 plus, is they always pick and choose and cherry pick.
I interviewed more people in the U.S. of Celebrity because most of them have been dead for decades.
I interviewed the Judge Advocate General that held the secret hearings.
I interviewed the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Edward Moore.
I interviewed everybody, I mean, most of the ship.
I made a film about it.
And then people go, oh, look, Candace Owens is covering it.
You never covered it.
You're a traitor.
I've always covered it.
People don't cover what I cover at the time.
And they take a clip where I say, in general, I'm not against Israel.
I don't hate Jews in general.
And they go, oh, look, he's pro-Israel.
It's just, it's horse crap.
jake shields
You've done amazing work for 30 years.
I think maybe you were a little distracted and you kind of missed a trend and now you're on it.
Things happen in life.
You were to deal with a crazy lawsuit.
They were shutting you down.
You were in a really tough time in life, but you've done some of the best work.
alex jones
Yeah, but I was just.
Well, thank you.
But I was talking about Israel the whole time.
People just got on this thing that I wasn't, so they'd ignored it.
Or they'd take a clip and go, why is he suddenly doing this?
Why is he suddenly doing that?
China literally controlled half the Democrats.
I mean, China is a big thing.
jake shields
That's a problem, too.
Yeah.
alex jones
So every time I talk about China, oh, you're covering for Israel.
No, there's more than one group trying to control the country.
jake shields
Yeah, no, 100% is.
I just think maybe this current war, people felt like you weren't doing enough.
Like I said, you had a lot going on in life.
alex jones
That is complete horsecrap.
jake shields
I think you were dealing with these lawsuits, other things.
alex jones
Well, I mean, three years ago, they had an ADL national function, and their main mission was arrest me.
Did you see that?
jake shields
No, but it doesn't surprise me.
alex jones
No, they had Sasha Baron Cohen saying arrest people like Alex Shu.
jake shields
Sasha Barron, he was bora.
He made fun of other people, but now he's trying to get us arrested.
How crazy.
alex jones
But I just love the ADL is saying arrest me and is literally trying to destroy me.
And then I work for them.
It just is preposterous.
jake shields
No, 100%.
alex jones
I just, here's my deal.
Israel has been a powerful manipulative force since they were set up in 47.
There's no doubt.
But until now, they did not become the conspiracy theory and openly try to take over the administration, which they basically have done to a great extent.
So now, because it's true, I'm seeing.
jake shields
Yeah.
No, I think they've been doing stuff for a while.
They tried to kill President Truman.
You know, they bombed the Liberty, which, you know, you covered.
They likely killed JFK or involved.
They were likely involved with 9-11.
They've been manipulating America for a long time.
alex jones
Well, no, they were definitely not involved at the center of 9-11.
Yeah, and Yahoo and that group.
Not Israel.
Yes.
jake shields
Didn't you call that out like the day after?
alex jones
Which is pretty good.
I did.
jake shields
Pretty impressive.
alex jones
Well, yeah, I said Israel.
jake shields
Like you said, you were in a tough, tough time for a minute with that lawsuit you were going through and stuff.
So it's like, but now, but now we're here.
Now we're talking about it.
alex jones
Yeah, but Jake, I'm not disagreeing with you, but people act like that lawsuit had anything to do.
It had nothing.
Listen, the more aggressive and radical I am, the more popular I am.
I didn't, me being sued and all that, I covered all this.
jake shields
No, I know.
alex jones
People just decided to never magnify the clips.
jake shields
I don't really watch full shows.
alex jones
I get it.
I don't either.
jake shields
I don't watch my own shows.
alex jones
There's enough time to do the show.
Believe me, I ain't sitting around watching myself.
God, I can't stand it.
jake shields
I appreciate you having me on and having these talks.
And it's like, what's the end game?
What are they trying to do?
I think they're doing another full show.
alex jones
Well, yeah, instead of whether Alex Jones works for Israel or not, or if it's Alex Jones Jewish, which I am Jewish, so is Jake.
We're both barbisford together.
jake shields
I'm only three quarters.
alex jones
That's a joke, folks.
They'll take it out of context, though.
If you say right now you're Jewish, they'll take it out.
Because it's not only Israel I have problems with, it's people that then put out disinfo about it that is credited is my point.
But what I'm getting at here is we talk about it in the break.
100% Netanyahu blueprinted with Dick Cheney and Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz and Pearl.
They ran 9-11.
That would take 10 hours to go through it.
I mean, I knew it the day of.
The day of Joe Rogan called in.
He's listened all the time then.
And he's like, Alex, This is discrediting.
You're going too far.
No, I said it the day of because I knew about the neocons being Israeli.
And I knew it.
So that's why, because they said, we need a new Pearl Harbor.
We need a terror attack to get control domestically and foreign.
3,000 deaths would be nice.
It's in the report.
And 3,000 would die.
I mean, you can't make this up.
And then Larry Silverstein getting double the insurance.
jake shields
Yeah, he was an Israeli friend in Japan.
alex jones
Yeah, well.
jake shields
Got that right before.
That's the only thing.
alex jones
But it's worse than that.
Back then, the internet was on archive.
You'd see something, that was it.
On the news, they said they blew up Building 7 that day.
I saw it.
jake shields
They said it before they collapsed.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
But then it took five years for him to archive it.
But what was crazy is they were so lazy, they still put MSNBC CNN the same year, 2005.
They archived the whole days everywhere, BBC.
And suddenly we had them.
Solomon Brothers, Building 7 has fallen.
It's on footprint.
It's right behind me.
jake shields
I'm standing still.
That was so crazy.
alex jones
Yeah, yeah.
So that's why to me, it's not about credibility.
It's about reality.
I was the first to expose it.
jake shields
You were, and I have so much respect for you.
So I'm so glad we're friends now instead of like fighting over stupid stuff.
alex jones
But Jake, thank you.
But we got to go further.
It wasn't just Israel.
When I exposed the USS Liberty 30 years ago, 25 years ago, all the guys that are dead now, I interviewed them all.
The captain was already dead, but I interviewed the first mate, all of them.
And I would go on errands, have the judge advocate general on that ran the secret trial, and he would say, and they all came out later.
But they're first the ship gets strafed and bombed and torpedoed.
Most decorated ship in U.S. history.
Survived for over a day being attacked.
This captain tied his guts in.
jake shields
Yeah, they left him out there for a day.
Yeah.
alex jones
Then they finally sent Israeli commandos on helicopters, and a bunch of the jets refused when they saw the American flag.
So they sent more jets.
They court-martialed the guys that wouldn't.
They went public.
So credit to the Jews.
A bunch of them went public.
That's how we know about it.
But LBJ, when they send the fighter wings off the aircraft carrier, 100 miles away to defend it, they go, the president orders the admiral to turn them back.
He goes, I'm not turning them back.
I want to call from the president.
And then the people that want to say Israel is the only corruption in the world go, there aren't telephones then.
Yeah, it's called a telephone over a satellite link.
It's on record.
LBJ calls them and says, turn it back to your court-martialed.
I want that goddamn ship on the bottom.
jake shields
Yeah, he wanted this.
alex jones
I was told this by the judge advocate general who died a month later of heart failure.
So all these old guys, I was the only show that would do it.
They would all like the elephant graveyard.
Admiral Moore, who was the head of the Navy at the time, became the Joint Chiefs later.
He came on and exposed it.
I had Admiral Moore on like five, six times.
Okay.
So I literally, by the way, I've told the crew find, I think they did find, like, Chase Find, we never re-air.
We got to re-upload this stuff.
jake shields
You know, you did this.
alex jones
Because this is gold.
No one else has this.
But the point is, all the Israel haters went, when I went, oh yeah, it was premeditated false flag to attack Egypt.
LBJ was working with Israel.
They go, you're coming for Israel.
They did it alone.
No, it doesn't take away Israel's guilt that LBJ was involved.
It makes it more premeditated.
jake shields
No, it's true, because JFK was killed and LGBT became president.
alex jones
Yes.
jake shields
JFK was shut down.
unidentified
Yes.
jake shields
That's when they killed him.
alex jones
So you get my frustration with the people that are in the anti-Jew cult is they want to say everyone is not as holy as them.
So here I am, the only person who ever exposed all of it.
And because LBJ probably, I don't know if the Israelis had the plan or we did.
The point is the U.S. government with Israel tried to sink that ship to blame the Egyptians to start a full war because they thought the Russians would come in on their side.
World War III, Operation Northwoods 2.0.
And that's the story.
That's what happened.
It doesn't take away from Israel's guilt.
It proves it.
jake shields
You're right.
President America was involved with it.
And the CIA was also involved with 2011.
So you can't just blame Israel.
You're 100% right with all this.
alex jones
Which goes to, I'm not going to blame all the Jews.
I don't blame all Americans.
Americans didn't know the CIA did that.
jake shields
No, I agree with you.
And sometimes, you know, Twitter and stuff, I say things a little radical, but I realize it's really important to say, hey, it's not all Jewish people.
But it would be nice if more Jewish people started speaking up against this stuff, too.
alex jones
I agree.
Hey, quick plug.
And I have no idea what you're going to say because it's not pre-planned.
45 minutes ago, you took my methylene blue.
Do you feel it?
jake shields
Yeah, it's really good.
alex jones
How good?
I want an honest assessment.
jake shields
No, no, no.
Honestly, it's amazing.
Like, I think mine's amazing too.
And this is the only other methylene blue that's like on the same level of it.
It's like really high quality.
alex jones
Look, I was honest six years ago, my medical doctor, I went out my genetic test, all this.
He goes, you take methylene blue, anything, USP.
I ordered it, didn't really feel it.
My wife liked a lot.
We got five or six brands.
Ours is like 10 times stronger.
So I want to try yours too.
It's always good to have multiple suppliers.
jake shields
Actually, might as well win with me.
If I have it with you, I'll give it to you here.
alex jones
Yeah.
So then I took this like six months ago and I was like, oh my God, this is a game changer.
How does our ultra-methylene blue?
It's out of Florida medical grade.
What are you feeling?
jake shields
I feel, it just gives you a little more clarity, a little more.
It's similar to what I take, but I have taken other ones that are garbage.
So any supplements you buy, you better make sure you get it from the right place.
It's a legit supplement.
alex jones
Yeah, we're not even trying to differentiate here.
I never sold it, even though everybody says it's great and the medical system is wonderful because I didn't get a big effect from it.
And then finally, my main sponsor goes, no, we got a really good one.
You need to try this.
The crew's all bouncing off the walls for two weeks.
I finally take it and go, oh my gosh, now I know what people are talking about.
jake shields
There's lots of bad products out there.
That's what.
alex jones
But that pisses me off.
Why don't those other companies want to put a real one out to sell you again and again and again?
It'd be like a restaurant that sells you dog shit to eat.
You get sick and never come back.
Why would y'all want to sell good food?
I don't understand.
jake shields
Yeah, you want an excellent product, so it will come back over and over.
alex jones
These idiots, man.
I'm not even sure the stuff out there is even methylene blue.
jake shields
Yeah, it's a product.
I hadn't even heard of it like six months ago, a year ago, maybe.
A guy pitched it to me.
I'm like, oh, I'll try it.
I'm like, oh, this actually works.
He used it.
He was a fighter who had really bad concussions and he used it to get rid of the concussions.
The fighters are using this now for the head trauma.
alex jones
Well, people then say, oh, is it good for you?
Better talk to your physician if you're on different drugs.
It can really mess you up like SSRIs.
But no, it literally is one of the oldest drugs ever patented.
We don't sell this a drug as a supplement.
1870s, the Germans, they had rat studies, 1890s.
It literally basically regrows brain cells.
I mean, it is bizarre.
How amazing.
jake shields
That's one of the only products that I, you know, that couple supplements and that's all I take.
alex jones
Well, ours is amazing and it's funny this operation.
And it's, it's, I mean, my workouts are way better on it.
jake shields
You look way better, by the way.
I still, you know, I'm healthier.
alex jones
And I did really good.
I was working out seven days a week for seven, eight months, and I've cut back to about five days a week because I've been so busy.
But I need to, I don't want to get big.
And unfortunately, I'm getting bigger.
I want to get lean and mean.
But yeah, I'm definitely a game changer.
jake shields
Yeah, like you said, you look healthy.
You're a pays, maybe, you know.
I think there's a fat ass.
I think you were getting stressed out by what you were dealing with.
It was evil what they did to you.
Had you a little stressed?
alex jones
Well, it wasn't me that got to me, but they did a bunch of stuff for my family.
jake shields
Yeah, and that's people, nasty people.
alex jones
They openly said to me, they said, we want you to stop attacking and stop talking about us, and we'll just leave you alone.
I was like, no.
jake shields
No, fuck that.
You can't be a coward.
They want you shut down.
Let's switch back to Israel real quick.
What do you think their endgame is?
alex jones
I mean, Netanyahu is super unpopular.
He stays in power with his October 7th standout.
And they want to leverage the world with a U.S. superpower behind him.
Israeli newspapers say, we're the new superpower.
We control America.
I mean, Israel's bragging they control America.
And I don't think they fully control it now.
And I never really, on the threat board, I saw Israel mainly trying to control our foreign policy in the Middle East.
But now, I mean, it's out in the open, Susie Walls, the rest of them.
So I'll be damned.
I mean, I just, I'm not going to go along with it.
jake shields
Yeah.
alex jones
I mean, the last time Israel had this much power was 25, 24 years ago with Netanyahu in 9-11.
So I think we're, I mean, obviously the next move for Israel is a big false flag to get us into full World War III.
unidentified
Yep.
jake shields
They've done it before, you know.
People, it sounds so crazy, but when you look at the nation's all there, and they want the Greater Israel Project.
They want to rebuild the Third Temple.
They want to sacrifice the Red Heifer.
They really believe this, including people in our government.
They really want to bring back the Antichrist.
I don't know why some Christians want to do this.
They're not trying to bring back Christ.
They're trying to bring back the Antichrist in the Third Temple.
They used to do millions of animal sacrifices there every day.
That's when Jesus went in and raided the temple with the bankers and the animal sacrifice.
That's when he had the whip and he came in and attacked him premeditated.
alex jones
The money changers.
jake shields
That's what got him crucified.
alex jones
Well, all I know is that mainline Protestant churches, and I brought up a Protestant, literally don't talk about Jesus.
They talk about Israel all day long.
jake shields
It's insane.
alex jones
And Israel is out in the open now trying to control the United States, you can't deny it.
jake shields
And they spit on Christians.
Why do Protestants love Israel?
alex jones
But I mean, there's like a hundred different sects over there.
So there's some of those.
They'll spit on each other, too.
jake shields
I don't think most Jews do that no more.
I've been to Israel.
I've been to Israel.
No one spit on me.
So it's like.
alex jones
Yeah, I mean, look, here's the deal.
Say whatever you want about Jews, but in history, they've been very competent.
And they've been, I mean, people say Judeo-Christian, they get mad, but the Abrahamic religion, Christianity does come out of Judaism.
And Jesus said, I've not come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it.
And he was there to reprove Israel and what they were doing.
It predicted that their temple will be destroyed before the generation was over.
And Titus, 70 years later, did it in 70 AD.
And, you know, the Germans envisioned the bomb.
Jews made it.
So, you know, to sit back and not say that the Jews are exceptional, I mean, I think on average, Jews are exceptionally good.
They're exceptionally bad.
I mean, I think any exceptional group are going to have issues.
I think it's been argued by a lot of historians that exceptionalize, you say the Germans are the only group that's given the Jews a run for their money in the most development of technology and science and literature and art.
The Jews recognize that, by the way.
And notice that was those guys going in at World War II.
So it's kind of like the biggest dogs getting a fight.
And my deal is I'd rather not do that.
I'd rather get everybody together with a common goal and just stop all this.
And so I don't want to alienate Jews in general.
I want to proselytize them into a different system.
And see, that's why it came out that Israel in 1947 until the 60s, all of the Middle East, all over Europe, Spain, Portugal, Iraq, Syria, Turkey bombed Jewish synagogues themselves.
This is declassified.
It's public to blame Muslims and white supremacists to make Jews move to Israel.
jake shields
I'm not exactly.
alex jones
And the Levant affair and all of it.
I'm not blowing up Jewish synagogues.
I don't want that.
But see that weird, that's not Jews in general.
The real power these corrupt Jewish groups get is getting Jews persecuted because they're so successful, they then give all their money to the kingpin mafia who then protect them.
You know about Madeline Albright's dad was one of the main Jews.
Low level was Soros, who would go and tell Jews, well, get you out of the country.
He had deals with Nazis.
And most of the time, they would betray him and keep their money.
jake shields
Wow.
alex jones
Did you know that?
jake shields
I didn't know.
alex jones
You know about the Ted rabbi saying it's better to have a cow in Palestine than all the Jews that don't come here.
Basically, it was a plan.
jake shields
Yeah, no, I think a lot of these.
alex jones
You know, Hitler was looking to put the Jews in Israel.
jake shields
Yeah, he was sending him there too.
What do they call that?
I forget the name of it, but he had some agreement to send the Jews there.
Yeah, no, this is a small group of Jews that are manipulating them, and they want the other Jews to think everyone hates them, be fair, and be scared and feel this way.
alex jones
And that's my point.
If we play into that, I'd rather not even convert Jews to my view.
My view is just pro-human.
I actually want the Jews.
I'm serious.
I want them.
I want everybody, everybody.
Look at black and white to fight with each other.
It's retarded.
You got the black leaders and the white leaders manipulating yourself against each other.
See what I'm saying, Jake?
jake shields
Yeah, I think one thing with Jews, though, they do, you could argue a good or a bad thing, they work together a lot better than any other race.
So Jews, not all, but typically they'll always put a Jew before a non-Jew.
So they work together.
That's why they would work together and create Israel.
alex jones
Yeah, well, the same.
I'm not comparing Jews to pedophiles, but that's how pedophiles took over the Catholic Church.
That's how they took over the Boy Scouts, anything, is they get a few pedophiles in and they only recruit their own people.
jake shields
Yeah, so you look like BlackRock Vanguard, they're not putting anyone that's not Jewish towards the top.
So they only help each other for these big position rules.
alex jones
While those very Jewish lobbies promote that white people are inherently evil and are only promoting whites when whites are number nine on a racial scale who has the most money, it's Asians are the first.
jake shields
Yep.
alex jones
And Jews.
jake shields
Pushing Jews first.
alex jones
Asians, yeah.
What I'm saying is exactly.
The average white person is not in some secret club.
And then it's Jewish lobby mainly teaching people that whites are in some secret club.
Newsflash, we ain't some secret club, folks.
jake shields
Well, that's what was so crazy.
I was out doing this.
alex jones
You might have, oh, Jake, you're white.
We're going to give you a special deal.
jake shields
Yeah, no, I was out doing disaster relief, and the ADL attacked us.
They have an ethno-state with only Jews, and they attacked us because, like, I'm not part of the group, but they're a white-only group.
And it's like, we're out there helping people.
We weren't asking them, you know, what race they were.
We were just helping anyone that needed help.
And they were, and the ADL was like, how dare these?
He tried to get an Abbott to not let them in.
When Abbott would probably do it, too.
alex jones
Oh, Abbott's got this thing where any contractor for the state has to pledge to Israel.
jake shields
That's another crazy one, too.
All these states are passing laws where you can't work for the government unless you're doing a pledge to Israel.
Like, we don't have to pledge to any of these states.
Why do American citizens have to pledge to another country?
alex jones
Imagine if they said you got a pledge to the Republicans.
No one put up with it.
Yeah.
Or the Democrats.
jake shields
Or China or Mexico.
alex jones
No, they're sanctioning the town just south of here.
God, what's the name of it?
I'm having one of those moments.
What's the town just south of here?
Not Kyle, the one next to that.
jake shields
I love everybody in the earth.
alex jones
It's one of those great moments.
They just talk to my mic.
They don't even know either.
incredible.
Well, there's San Antonio, there's a Bronfels, and then there's Dallas, I'm sure.
Well, we definitely got it.
And they came talking to my mom.
I'm not mad at the crib.
They just like, I hear whispering.
Wow.
jake shields
I don't hear anything.
alex jones
Now, let's just stop until we know this answer.
No, no, this is one of those moments.
Yeah, San Marcus.
I love how Israel won't tell me what to say here.
Because I'm supposed to get told.
jake shields
It was the Jews' fault.
alex jones
And then I asked Netanyahu, who's in the control room, to tell me San Marcus.
Yeah, he, oh no, I couldn't remember it.
unidentified
Sorry.
alex jones
San Marcus, the state's sanctioning them because one city council member said boycott Israel.
jake shields
Yeah, it's cool.
alex jones
Whether you love Israel, hit Israel.
That is un-American and dangerous.
jake shields
We're Americans.
We can boycott anyone we can.
They don't even do it to America.
They say you can't boycott Israel.
And there's also like anti-Semitism laws.
Like, I have a right to not like a Jew.
If I don't want to like a Jew, I don't have to hate Jews, but I legally in America can hate Jews if I want.
Who are they to say?
alex jones
Well, but get the Streisand effect.
If everybody says, if you're not for open borders, you're anti-Semitic, or if you're not for having your kid's dick cut off, you're anti-Semitic.
People go, what is this anti-Semitic?
You get called Hitler all day.
You start investigating it.
jake shields
Exactly.
alex jones
And a lot of people go, well, screw it.
I'm Hitler.
jake shields
That's what happens.
They call me anti-Semitic and a Jew hater so much.
So why am I going to argue?
Eventually just like, by the way, I'm not mad at the crew.
alex jones
I couldn't remember Sam Marcus either.
It's just that I'm like, what?
jake shields
It was a Jew.
alex jones
I put all these mics in there and they're like, I'm supposedly being told what to say minute to minute by whoever's in there, but notice they love, but they couldn't get on the microphone.
jake shields
But no, I think they're just driving people by constantly being attacked.
Well, like you said, the opposite.
Well, you said you're not talking about it enough.
So it made you be like, fuck you.
I'm not going to talk about it.
The same thing when they tell me like, oh, you're an anti-Semite.
alex jones
Yeah, but here's the deal.
I was already under total globalist attack.
And I guess it was because I exposed 9-11.
That's what Tucker thinks.
So you go to these law firms.
I mean, they are Israeli.
jake shields
Many years before me.
alex jones
Well, it's not about who did it first.
The point is, I'm trying to do Big Ten.
I don't care if you're a Zoaster, a Hindu, a Christian, a Muslim, a Jew.
If you don't want nuclear war and you want freedom, I support you.
And I just don't want to make it about that, but it's being made about that.
And I'm being told I'm anti-Semitic if I don't want to have nuclear war with Iran.
So I'm just like, all right, you got what you want.
I can't handle it anymore.
jake shields
It's been forced on us, I think.
It's one of those situations where it's been forced.
And they've just been massacring kids for two years straight.
I don't know if you ever go to those Telegram channels.
I have to.
I had to stop going because this is devastating what it is.
alex jones
Oh, it's terrible.
Well, I mean, you know, if you're against communism, you're a white supremacist.
So people have been told this so much.
That's what's happening.
All right, Jake Shields.
jake shields
Jake Shields, JJ, Jake Shields, AJJ, Fight Back Podcast.
alex jones
FightbackPodcast.com.
jake shields
You want Giga Merch, the fight, where I'm basically podcasts everywhere.
Podcast can be.
alex jones
All right.
Well, we'll talk to you again soon.
jake shields
Hey, thanks so much.
alex jones
You bet, brother.
We're about to end the show.
Listen, I didn't even plug 30 seconds last hour, 30 seconds this hour.
I can't do the show without you.
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The Alex Jones battle dagger in the great box.
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Your support, the alexonstore.com and some great new supplements there as well.
And the ultramethylene blue.
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Thanks for your support.
Great job, crew.
Owen Schroyer with the war room takes over now.
We'll be right back with Owen Schroyer.
owen shroyer
There's a reason why supplements are so big and so popular and have such a great result.
It's because whether it's your diet, whether it's your exercise routine, the point is you're lacking in some very important vitamins, very important minerals that can make you healthier, live longer, and feel better.
rex jones
We're also under constant attack, Owen, and that's what's very important.
So the modern human living experience, the environment that we subject ourselves to, it's the equivalent of smoking like a couple packs of cigarettes every single day.
Like that's the bad food that we eat.
owen shroyer
That's the poison in the water, X, Y, Z. So it's kind of like what happens is Reck Jones in studio with me, we're about to make a very exciting new product announcement here.
So what ends up happening is whether it's the modern day diet or whether it's the modern day atmosphere or whether it's, you know, a sedative state, you're not getting whatever it is you need to make your body function at its highest capabilities.
rex jones
Absolutely correct.
And that's why we created these two new formulas that are now live at the AlexJonesStore.com.
So we've got methyl drive here and we've also got power plant.
Now, both of them at their core, they do around the same type of thing.
It's increasing fuel for you to create new mitochondria.
It's increasing mitochondrial efficiency.
It's reducing oxidative stress and XYZ, other things like that.
Now, I want to single out PowerPlant really quick.
If you're a guy and you're looking for a boost, a healthy, sustainable testosterone boost, we made PowerPlant specifically for someone that wants to increase their free testosterone.
owen shroyer
I remember when I was looking into supplements and stuff and different things like, you know, people don't get enough boron.
They don't even know what boron is.
And I remember one thing that always stuck in my head, and that's, you know, it's just true.
Well, what does boron kind of rhyme with, folks?
Just leave it at that.
You know what I mean?
rex jones
We've got bits and pieces of a system here that comes together and provides you just the antioxidant support you need, the testosterone support you need, the mitochondrial health support you need.
It's all there it's all together it's in both of these products you could take both of these at the same time and experience a heck of a lot of benefits now i would say younger older you're an older person you need more overall body support you need the overall antioxidant support i would go with the methyl drive but if you're a younger person or someone looking for a performance boost i would go with the power plant I can enhance what I'm doing here maybe like tenfold with the right supplement routine.
owen shroyer
Absolutely.
rex jones
I totally agree with that statement.
Look, the reason why this is called power plant is because it has cordyceps in it.
Now, of course, the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell and all that, but cordyceps is like an elite top tier S tier ingredient, which increases the amount of ATP you make, which indirectly helps you make more mitochondria, but beyond that, increases your oxygen carrying capacity.
So you want to talk about workouts.
You want to talk about power.
You talk about strength.
Talk about power plan.
owen shroyer
And that's what you need, especially when you're doing a heavy lift and you need to have good breathing or you're doing long form cardio and you need to have strong breathing.
That's where this is going to come into play.
And when you started talking about the new product that we just came out with with the PQQ and the CoQ10, folks, I'm telling you, it's like if I had to do a list of like, okay, if someone said you can pick five things that you're going to get in a supplement, like what are the most important things?
Guarantee you, you asked me a hundred times, PQQ and CoQ10 are on that list for me a hundred times.
rex jones
Vitamin B12, as methylcobalamin, the good kind.
Magnesium, coenzyme Q10, CoQ10, PQQ, black pepper for absorption.
You can't ask for a better catch-all, really.
And the synergy that both of these products have with the methylene blue is unparalleled.
You will not find a better product on the market that's targeted in that specific way because we made these for you, the customer, and for ourselves because we believe in the product.
We take the product.
owen shroyer
ThealexjonesStore.com to get these new products.
Try them for yourself.
I know they're going to become a staple.
I see Rex working out here every once in a while.
We've worked out in the gym every once in a while.
And, you know, he's really excited about this stuff.
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