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Full Wednesday Show: Comey’s Daughter Throws The P. Diddy Case, Blue States Refuse to Take Boys out of Womens’ Sports & Trump Responds by Pulling $7 Billion, Megachurch Pastor Debates Alex Jones on All Things Israel and Much More in this Must-Watch Tour de Force Broadcast! - FULL SHOW - 07.02.2025
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alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, we are entering the 163rd day of the Trump administration and the return of the West, if we are successful.
A lot of really great things Trump is doing, a lot of things that are very questionable, but overall, I'm still blessed that we have him there and have a fighting chance as we accelerate towards July 4th, 2025.
It is Wednesday, July 2nd, 2025.
I am your host, Alex Jones.
We have some huge guest and information coming up today, including in studio, but I'll tell you a little bit more about that later.
Kind of a debate coming up.
I'll just stop there.
I already had a debate last night that I hosted between Denesha's Souza and Nick Fuentes that was very academic, but also informative, both very interesting and, let's just say, well-read individuals.
You can find the archive of that right now, Infowars.com, band.video, and of course, Rolox Jones on X if you missed it.
Now, the P. Diddy verdict came in, as you know, in the last few hours.
And in and of itself, it's very tawdry.
And a lot of people followed it like it was a soap opera.
And so it's obviously been one of the top stories for months and months and months.
And he was found not guilty on racketeering conspiracy, not guilty on sex trafficking by force, fraud and coercion, guilty on transportation to engage in prostitution, not guilty for sex trafficking by force, fraud and coercion.
Count four.
Count five.
Guilty of transportation to engage in prostitution.
So basically being a pimp.
Now, what he did and what he's been convicted of is completely legal in places like Las Vegas.
So what really happened here?
Well, the mere fact that James Comey's daughter was given the case out of hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds, hell, thousands of federal prosecutors, and that she's given all of the Epstein-related stuff, Ghislaine Maxwell, a whole bunch of other ones.
It all gets handed to her because Daddy is on record as the controller of the, not just Epstein files and videos, but all the other big sex trafficking, pedophilia operations, just like J. Edgar Hoover used that for control.
And Diddy was heavily involved with people that were above Epstein.
And so clearly she went in just like she did in all these other cases.
I mean, dozens.
And she minimizes it and contains it.
And now you notice they've had these other big lawyers pushing for Trump to pardon Ghislaine, which would be totally insane.
And then I really would think maybe Trump is in some files we don't know about, but we've never seen evidence of that so far.
But the fact that's been floated to him is, as Roger Stone said, the worst idea he ever heard in his life.
So there's not just smoke, there's fire here.
And so normally I wouldn't just cover this.
It was some rich, you know, billionaire at one point rapper engaged in a bunch of pimping or whatever.
I mean, my God, Snoop Dogg admits he was a pimp for many years.
No, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is pedo stuff.
I mean, my God, he's, he's had like Justin Bieber when he's like 14 going, yeah, baby, we had some fun tonight.
Yeah, you like it.
We can't tell people what we do here on the island, but it's a lot of fun, isn't it?
I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's sick stuff.
But the fact that he sent Comey in, who controls the Epstein file, you know, it's CIA Massad.
It's all coming up on the other side.
You want to know what's going on?
I'm going to tell you.
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Fence and Victoria.
alex jones
All right, here's what we got for you today.
There is a lot to cover.
The big, beautiful bill that had the really bad AI dictatorship provision stripped out of it.
So it's got a lot of pork, got some big problems, but I overall think that we need to get the bill passed to really pick your poison.
We can have the economy totally stall out and collapse, which is what the private Federal Reserve wants.
Or we can supercharge it and grow our way out of this and innovate our way out of this.
And at least that gives us a chance.
And Trump's trying to work with the Congress to get things passed.
So to get the Senate to go along with it, they packed a bunch of bad stuff on it.
Now the Republicans, rightfully in the House, want a bunch of it pulled.
And Trump is not a dictator, which I'm glad he's not.
So he has to get done what he can get done.
So I'm not even pragmatic about it.
I'm just a realist and understand that.
And if we don't get this bill passed, the economy is going to stall out.
We need the massive tax cuts on working class and middle class.
And so if big cutting doesn't start after that, which there's already some happening, yeah, we're going to become a total debtor nation.
We're already basically there.
Elon Musk is right.
Trump is right.
I mean, no one knows exactly, but we know that if we don't get these tax cuts and if we don't get the border security and the deportation money and all of that allotted to get that done, the Democrats will have their permanent voting block, and then it's game over as well.
So put to you this way.
I can see all of Trump's thinking and understand it.
And I can see Musk thinking and understand it.
But as the Treasury Secretary says, we're trying to get done what we can get done.
And he's right.
The bigger issue is the Federal Reserve not lowering interest rates.
It's done that in Europe.
Same private shareholders that own the Federal Reserve are in Europe.
They own the majority of it.
They're cutting interest rates everywhere but here.
And Besent is right.
It is directly to sabotage this recovery and to continue to maneuver us into total bankruptcy.
Because if we don't jumpstart it, we will go completely bankrupt very soon and under the central bankers' total control.
Then we've got to politically, one way or another, remove them.
So if I'm really critical of Trump on anything on economics, it's this.
He has been far too kind to the private chairman of the Federal Reserve, Jerome Powell.
Jerome Powell and the private banking cartel that owns and runs this whole globalist system is the enemy.
Trump calls him dumb, calls him stupid.
Oh, you're stupid.
You're making the wrong decision.
No, the set plan, as I told you before Trump even got reelected, would be Jerome Powell.
And so let's stop acting like, oh, he's just a dumb booby.
No, they're the globalists.
What have they done to all these other countries?
Their plan is to maneuver us into total bankruptcy and then dictate the terms of our surrender.
That's why they want you poor for control.
So I'm going to get more into that.
That's really the elephant in the room right now.
The feud between Trump and Musk is intensifying with Trump saying more nasty stuff that I really think is uncalled for and escalatory.
Musk came out yesterday and said he's going to try to de-escalate it and gave Trump a lot of kudos and props for really trying to stop the wars in the Middle East and in Europe with Russia.
He said, you know, I'm going to give credit where credit's due and hopefully these olive branches work.
And I really analyzed Trump's statements about Musk and it's really not called for and it really doesn't make sense.
I was watching Owen yesterday while I was having some lunch after I got off air.
It was probably 3.34.
I forgot to tell the crew to grab it.
I was watching, I watched about 30 minutes, but just in that little group of watching, and Owen just did the best job in like five, 10 minutes.
He just laid it all out perfectly, said, I thought I'd just get that and play that because I couldn't probably even do it that good.
He nailed it.
He went over all these facets and angles and everything he said was accurate.
I'd forgotten about some of it.
And it really made me shake my head.
And again, this isn't a popularity contest like we're in junior high or high school.
We're picking who the coolest football player is and who the coolest cheerleader is or who's going to be the king and queen of the prom.
We need Trump to succeed.
He's a great man.
He's doing the best job he can.
Musk has done so much.
And Owen made the key point here that the Republicans sharpening their knives for Musk and making him a political enemy and saying that he's mad over EV rebates going away.
He campaigned on get rid of it for everybody.
I'm fine with that.
That's not true.
And so now you see the drums beating.
Oh, Musk is being courted by China.
A billion people backing you.
China transfixed as Musk turns against Trump.
Russia's saying, please come here.
India, please come here.
You understand, ladies and gentlemen, that he has the most wide suite of the very advanced, very proficient technologies that have extreme military applications.
So, and he's been moving everything over to the United States.
He was mainly, some in the U.S., some in Europe, and yes, mainly in China to Steve Bannon's critique over the years.
But in the last four years, he began to move his eggs completely into our basket.
Because before, very hard to do business in the United States.
So hoping he could get Trump in, hoping he could have a better base for his operations, which he said is the United States is the best place to stabilize the West and hence stabilize the world.
So everybody just having fun like you're watching two high schoolers get in a fist fight in the parking lot.
This is not funny.
And I see a lot of people trying to choose sides and make this a tribal activity.
And it goes from bad to worse.
Do we want Musk to set up his third party?
But if you look at the numbers, I would guess we'll pull three times more Republicans than it will pull people from Democrats.
The Democrats have a long memory.
The direction Musk has gone, even if he acted like he was a liberal or something, they're not going to support him.
Pulls maybe 20 points from the Republicans, 10, 15, 20 max.
Pulls five from the Democrats.
This is doomsday political stuff.
When we have the victory, we have the Political realignment, all conservatives and populists and nationalists and common censors have to do is deliver on the populist message and populist policies of innovation and freedom and competition and classic Americana culture and getting the left brainwashing cults away from our children and securing the border and all of it and cutting taxes on the working class.
All we've got to do is that.
And this leftist cancer neoliberalism funded by the big tax-free foundations, BlackRock, are never going to be able to force their version of the technocracy and the nightmare culture on us.
So we have victory in our hands, but as so often happens in history, and as George Washington said and other founding fathers after him, Thomas Jefferson, that our American republic could not be conquered even at that point by any army on earth.
We just beaten the British, who were the champs at fighting big continental armies and others.
I mean, they were the most dominant army on the earth, and we beat them by attrition at promoting something that the majority wanted, freedom, innovation, getting rid of the class system, a meritocracy instead of following a monarchy.
And hereditary rule that we see in North Korea, third-generational communist dynasty.
The Mulas, in Iran, a 1600-year-old hereditary monarchy of the 12.
So that's what we got to promote.
Freedom, the Renaissance, Americana is the best, coolest, amazing thing politically we've ever had.
It works the best.
It's sexy.
I mean, I would describe it as thinking of the most beautiful woman in her prime you can.
And communism is a mummified dead woman in a coffin.
I mean, it's that big a difference.
You've got Marilyn Monroe in her prime, and you've got a skeleton over here.
I mean, which one do you want?
You want to get in bed with a skeleton or get in bed with Marilyn Monroe in her prime?
Or just think of the ideal woman in your mind.
I mean, it's that easy.
We're giving out free ice water in the Sahara Desert, and they literally are wanting us to eat bugs, and they want to chop our son's penises off and our daughter's breast off.
I mean, come on.
I went hiking this weekend on the Town Lake hike and bike trail.
I don't do that very often.
It's beautiful, but it was full of people, thousands.
And I mean, we saw at least four women run by with their shirts off, with their breasts chopped off, you know, with the big, huge scars.
And really, nobody else had their shirts off.
It was early in the morning.
It wasn't that hot yet.
But they want you to see it.
They want you to see they've cut their breast off.
I mean, it's just, and then I was at SeaWorld and saw Muslims in burqas, beekeeper suits.
I mean, it's just, it's all these sick cultures.
And we have to reject Orthodox Islam and say that's sick.
And we have to reject the transgender Satan cult and go, you're sick.
Yeah, it's worse than just cutting their breast off.
Female to man, like saying man to dolphin, the South Park episode.
They cut the forearm, flesh, skin, and muscle off, and then create a giant rotting penis with no feeling in it.
And they put a little piece of PBC tube up into your bladder.
And they usually rot and fall off.
And then you wonder why they commit suicide.
And I say big giant ones to cut off as much meat and mutilate the woman as much.
Because I've seen the surgeries and I've shown them on air.
It's always like some giant slong.
Like if you're going to torture and cut something off a woman because she's mentally ill and give her a fake penis, I mean, come on, you know, give them one like the statue of David or something.
A little fig leaf.
No, no, no.
It's got to be a huge, rotting, stinking thing that falls off, you know, because it's a satanic.
You know, those doctors are Satanists.
I mean, 100%.
How many abortion clinic doctors have come out as Satan?
They've caught all over the country.
They'll go, oh, okay, we'll do a partial birth abortion and run in the back room with your baby and you know what's going on.
Oh, it's come out in the police reports.
I'm going to stop there, but this is Hellraiser stuff.
Okay, let me just stop.
Sorry, I was going to tell you what's coming up today, and I'm kind of just plowing into all this.
All over the country at gay pride, LGBTP Satan events, they now have satanic events.
They go, oh, we all worship Satan.
It just upsets the Christians.
No, they're worshiping Satan.
Boy, I tell you.
Look what Satan does to people.
They're all completely delusional, in love with themselves, all having a celebration that they've cut God off, and then just wallow in their spiritual rot and stench.
So, sorry, let's move on.
I'm going to get back to that lover.
I know a lot of you have tuned in to want to know what I'm going to say about Pete and his big victory.
Well, James Comey's daughter handles the Epstein cases, dozens of them.
And in every case, she hides all the real evidence, minimizes what it really is, loses the sex trafficking portions to then limit it only to whoever the one person is they've got to burn because there's so much attention and so many whistleblowers and so many civil lawsuits that are exposing it's a honeypot tied into the FBI and the CIA, which has already come out.
So she goes in because her father at the FBI controls the Epstein files.
Then they were hiding him, if you remember, in New York with her and her boss, the head of the FBI there, that was forced to resign.
And then Pam Bondi, what now four months ago, had to raid the New York offices to get the 14 terabytes of hundreds of new child victims, child porn, Epstein raping children, other men doing it.
And now we're, what, four months after that was grabbed and supposedly sent out to EPA offices around the country.
I mean, what a crime.
They're ordered to turn over the files.
They say that's all the files, and they're sitting on 14 terabytes of child torture.
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Thank you.
alex jones
James Denahy, why isn't he indicted?
Why isn't Marine Comey indicted?
So, of course, he got off on the sex trafficking.
And you see the witnesses and the admissions of, yeah, that's sex trafficking and trying to force people to do stuff and drugging them and hidden cameras and all these Epstein handlers above him.
So the FBI head in New York vowed to dig in and vowed to not release anything to the Trump administration, who he said was the enemy.
Remember his email?
And then he hid 14 terabytes of material, mostly video, that Pam Bondi has said publicly and on hidden camera, is him and others raping hundreds of victims.
So I've given Pam Bondi and Cash Patel and Bongino benefit of the doubt, but we're now 160-something days into this, and now we have the P. Diddy whitewash.
And I'm going to get more into this when we come back from break.
And I am getting very, very, very concerned.
I mean, it's hard to even get into the Diddy unless I really, because I've done deep dives on it.
I mean, him with little kids, and I'm like 12, 13, 14 on Justin Bieber going, you just had some fun.
We can't tell people what you do on the island was wild, huh?
Yeah.
He's all rubbing on him.
I mean, this is grooming, pedophilia, definitely hooked into the FBI.
We know they knew for decades.
Definitely hooked into the CIA.
Epstein connected people all over it.
Mossad.
MI6 is always in involved.
Hell, they're pretty much created this system.
And so, yeah, they sent the fixer in because there were so many lawsuits and so many witnesses coming out about Diddy, who was just their kind of manager pimp, that they had to limit this to then shut this all down.
And then the way Comey did the case and the way they deliberately sabotaged it, she now put things on the record that violated his rights on purpose.
Didn't really defend him.
I mean, I mean, it actually defended him in an underhanded way.
But then he'll be able to, on appeal, get out of jail.
So Diddy will probably be out, just like they're going to do with Harvey Weinstein in a couple years.
And what they do is, again, they pick somebody when it's already starting to come out and they can't hide it, that they can limit and control the story and then basically distract the public.
So that's what's going on here.
So I'm going to go through it all coming up.
And then I've got some really amazing stuff I've absolutely got to spend time on.
You know what, Aldu?
I'm going to table the P. Diddy FBI Comey cover-up, and I'm going to go through it all, very important information to the start of the next hour here in about 34 minutes.
I want to come back, though, and look at all the other stuff that hasn't been getting enough attention.
And one of those is the way the corporate media deceives.
They've got so many tricks and so many lies.
So Trump withheld 800 and something million of federal funds to California schools, all total $7 billion.
This got withheld yesterday to different blue states around the country.
And all the corporate media, the Washington Post, the New York Times go, it's a mystery.
He just meanly took away the after-school lunch programs.
That's not what he did.
And they just act like they don't know why.
It's all over the corporate media.
And of course, we all know why.
And so I'm going to explain why, in case people don't know, and how this works.
Because they don't want to give Trump a win by following through on what he said he would do if they didn't stop doing some things in the States.
And he signed executive orders, I'll show you.
And those orders had a date on them that's now yesterday.
And they all know full well that was the deadline.
And then they go, gee, he just out of the blue took the school lunch program money, which is not even the money he took.
But they just craft it to have the most outlandish, horrible thing Trump could do by lying by omission, saying, gee, we don't know why he did it.
No, he just signed executive orders on certain issues and said, by this date, if you don't do it, we're going to do this.
And then he just did it.
This is finally some action with pressure on these people.
More of this.
We'll be right back.
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All right.
alex jones
On the broad strokes of trying to end wars and securing the border and winning a lot of trade deals and getting America's morale up and exposing politically and the entire deep state and really supercharging populist grassroots movements, not just here but worldwide, Trump gets an A-plus.
But with his Justice Department not prosecuting any high-level people at USAID and the EPA with all the slush funds, the Department of Energy, I mean, it's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of billions open and shut, stolen.
There's a lot of low-level, mid-level indictments have happened, but nobody big yet.
And you start indicting those high-level people, all their minions are going to cut and run and blow the whistle.
I say attack at the top first.
Don't sit there and move slowly up.
We don't have time for that.
But when it comes to broad executive strokes, Trump's doing everything he can.
And he's had these federal courts that are Article III, that are administrative with their injunctions.
That's been overridden now.
So he's running a lot of obstacles and is getting through them, but they're trying to slow him down.
But he signed in the last six months hundreds of executive orders.
And those executive orders have dates.
And he told the states a few months ago when he signed the executive orders on if you have male athletes in women's sports and you allow them to compete against girls.
And also if your state gives benefits to illegal aliens in free health care like California, I'm going to pull your federal funding.
And he just did it yesterday, and that's the day after the executive order expired.
And he told them in the executive orders.
And then there's more dates coming due in other areas of funding, like the EV mandates and all of it, that the Supreme Court just ruled in favor of what Trump's doing, saying you can't ban the sale of gasoline and diesel cars.
Crap like that.
So he gets an A-plus with the executive orders, but we kept saying, okay, he's giving him, depending on the executive order, a month, two months, three months, four months, talking to his experts, how long states would need to comply and get in line.
Well, look at what the corporate media did, and this is everywhere.
Washington Post, the New York Times, it's the same headline.
Trump withholds nearly $7 billion from schools with little explanation.
And then you read the articles, they go, gee, we don't know why he did that.
And then they spit it and go, oh, this might cut into the school lunch program.
If the states implement all this globalism and give the illegal aliens all the free health care and other goodies, and we go bankrupt because of it, and the states ignore the federal government, that's fine.
They just don't get the federal money.
And so that's the carrot of the stick.
And so we need to see more of this.
But imagine, this is a big win.
This is Trump taking action.
This is what they're scared of.
So instead, it's just like they said, oh, Trump's cutting Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid in the big beautiful bill.
No, it doesn't.
There's provisions that Doge developed, along with the Treasury Department and others, that clearly, if someone's 140 years old or 120, you're not getting your Social Security check.
You got to prove you're still alive.
The massive Medicare and Medicaid fraud where hundreds of billions a year just goes out to Europe and all these other places, and we know it's not going to U.S. citizens.
So they spend that.
Oh, my God.
They're going to take your Medicare and Medicaid and Social Security.
Not true.
And then he comes in and cuts the funding, $7 billion of it.
And the executive order state why.
And now the corporate media is going to play dumb and create the rumor.
Did you hear he took the school lunch program away?
That's how you lie by omission.
Trump administration freezes billions in funding for after-school programs and summer programs because that was the latest money coming in.
So CBS News all of them just say that.
Oh, well, the schools won't have the money for that now because they decide how to spend it.
And that's a lie.
They're the ones that decided to do all of this.
They're the ones that decided to keep DEI and critical race theory and transgender brainwashing of the children.
And Trump said, you keep doing that.
We're going to pull the funding.
And that's exactly what it did.
But that'd be a victory.
Wow.
Trump's delivering.
Wow.
This is how we do it.
No, instead, they sit back at the boardrooms and go, how do we spend this?
We'll just say we don't know why he did it.
He's crazy.
He's a dictator, and he took the school lunch program, an after-school program, and summer program.
That's bastard.
Amazing.
Trump freezes $6.8 billion in education funding.
California hit hard.
Well, here's the executive order from March improving education outcomes by empowering parents, states, and communities.
And then he gave them, what, four months to do it?
Fact sheet.
President Donald J. Trump empowers parents, states, communities to improve education outcomes.
And he tells them all right there.
So that is a prime example of how they operate.
But what else is happening?
In these other accompanying executive orders, he told private schools for primary education, the first 12 grades, that if you have these programs going on and you're getting some federal grants, we're going to withhold those.
But more importantly, the executive orders tell public and private universities that are all getting federal funds in one way or another, that if you have men and women sports and if you push these agendas, we are going to pull the federal funding.
And that's why you now see yesterday, University of Pennsylvania, Trump's alma mater, will be sending letters of apology to every single female athlete who was forced to compete against men per Education Secretary McMahon.
Yes, pigs are flying.
So this is real action.
California learns what it's like to F around and find out.
Trump administration has withhold $811 million in federal funds.
And Trump's been clear, it's because Gavin Newsom refused to stop his woke brainwashing the children and illegal alien education programs, specifically English language learner programs of migrants and children of illegal migrant worker programs.
So it's over.
The illegals being at the trough, cutting that off.
Don't use the federal funds for illegal aliens.
Don't use billions a year to house them in five-star hotels with FEMA money.
All that's over.
Self-deport.
The money's turned off.
Get out.
The plan is bring in a permanent underclass, bring in a new voting block, bring it in for congressional apportionment to add all these seats in Democrat states to steal elections.
They admit that's their plan.
So we have to do this.
Sorry, a lot of the illegal aliens are actually nice people.
Nobody ever said they weren't.
A bunch of them are hardened criminals and out of control.
It doesn't matter.
They came here illegally to be put on the tit to bankrupt the country.
Cloud and pivot, go.
And Trump said, if you don't have a criminal record of them being here illegally and you had jobs and you got sponsors and everything, we'll make it pretty easy for you to come back.
And that makes the populace super right-wing man.
And I think we should have a total moratorium.
It's just, it's out of control.
But this is what Trump ran on.
He's doing exactly what he said.
So that's what's going on.
And of course, some local news admits it's about the illegals, the transgenderism, and still teaching that and all the forced, quote, gay pride that's really grooming pedo training.
So very, very exciting.
Here's the head of Penn State making the announcements.
And now they're going to send letters of apology to all the women in track and wrestling and swimming and fencing that would get kicked off the team if they didn't want to fight a man and told they were horrible.
And you have some giant dude in swimming.
I saw him on TV the other day that won all these championships going, these women are abusing other women.
You're not a woman.
You are a cult member.
You're a thug and a bully and a sicko and a punk.
All of you that thought you were riding in on this giant gaslighting operation because if they could get us to accept men and women's sports and two men can have a baby and let men in girls bathrooms and changing rooms and showers, there's nothing we wouldn't put up with.
They are here to destroy society.
They're funded by the intelligence agencies.
Riley Gaines, UPenn, has agreed to right its wrongs, restoring records to the rightful female athletes, and issued apology to the women impacted by the man they allowed to compete as a woman.
Our pigs flying.
God bless Donald Trump.
And look at these women having to look at this guy who looks like he could be an Olympic swimmer.
And they're all have the liberal women presenting the trophies, getting off on it.
All the other women are like, holy God, this is ridiculous.
And then they go, in most cases, and have their own ceremony and stand back on the blocks and have their family take photos about who the real winners are.
It's a joke.
It's mind control.
And look at the satisfied look on the giant male swimmer in that last photo.
Just absolute satisfaction at engaging in this vicious attack on women and women's spaces and women's society.
All brought to you by the CIA that gave you Miss Magazine and Gloria Steinem and the destruction of the family and women more miserable and alone than they've ever been statistically.
And the six CIA technocrats, it's come out in their private chats that Pulsey Gabbard's released, are literally a pedo trans cult.
They're demons.
And they know exactly what they're doing.
So their house of cards, their house of intimidation, their house of mind control is now falling.
And how did it ever get to this point?
By not wanting to be called mean or racist or transphobic.
Just 10 years ago, oh, all we want is for homosexual couples to be able to marry each other.
Oh, just don't use the word homosexual.
You know, it's a scientific name like heterosexual, but that's hurtful.
Let us control language call us gay.
Which just means happy.
And the next, oh, the rainbow belongs to us now too.
That's ours.
Oh, oh, oh, and give us your kids.
Oh, and by the way, you see these pedo pride parades.
There's just Satanism crap everywhere.
And Target with trans kids lines with Satan's crap and pentagrams all over it and books for third graders about how to conjure demons.
That's Target.
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Target.
alex jones
This is an anti-God operation.
L-G-B-T-Q-I-A Pedophile 2SN plus gay sex pride cult members undergo sacrilegious de-baptism ritual.
Yes.
And you look at these people, they're just rejecting God, rejecting the order, rejecting what we are.
And that's why they look like mutants from some other universe.
And the satisfaction of the weird spirit in them that loves the contrarianism and the megalomania and that same weird in love with themselves gleam in all their eyes.
They know they're trolling you.
They know they're assaulting you.
And when one school in Virginia had men raping little girls in the bathroom, the Obama administration sent the FBI to try to intimidate the parents.
How dare you not let us rape your girls?
Because they knew as this came out, well, that will rally people.
So the corporate media doesn't let you report on it.
In Europe, they arrest you if you report on the Muslims raping and killing people and the trans cult raping little girls and boys or the Muslim giant grooming gangs.
You call it a Muslim gang grooming and you get arrested.
You're supposed to call it Asian.
It's essential that while they victimize you, you can't speak out and people can't learn because that's warfare.
You want stealth when you're attacking.
You want to sneak up like special forces and jab the dagger right into the kidneys as hard as you can.
And the pain's so intense, it just knocks them out.
You hold them over the mouth as they die.
It's the same thing.
They just come up and grab your mouth, shove the chen-inch dagger right in.
All the Pritzkers, the CIA, MI6, all the big think tanks, DARPA, Google, all just all the movies, all the culture, Nickelodeon just bombing you with it.
Total establishment, new world order, destroy the sexes, destroy the order, destroy society, collapse the human civilization.
And they've been doing a damn good job of it.
Of course they should apologize to the women and girls they did this to.
And watch like dominoes, because the money's cut off or starting to be cut off.
All these schools are going to reverse themselves like that.
They were doing it for money.
The biggest Christian schools in Austin, the biggest private schools that were conservative just five years ago, now all, I talk to the parents, secretly start telling elementary school students that they're another sex, putting them in the database, giving them a manager, prepping them to be taken away from their parents.
The parents don't go along with it.
It's all psychological warfare.
The public school's doing it too, but even the top Christian schools, because they're given grants for every child that they can then get to identify as that.
It's all massive money to destroy a soul, to destroy a child, to make sure that boy or girl never grows up to get married and have children, to make sure they're inducted into the satanic cult.
And it's all money.
These private schools and public schools can get up to $100,000 a year if they successfully get the kid into the cult, case managers, social workers, lawyers, and they keep secret files on the parents.
Will they go along with it?
They prep the child to turn against the parents so they can then be taken from them.
They have the accompanying legislation all over the world.
They now put parents that even oppose this and find out the school's brainwashing them in Spain in jail for 10 years.
And it's the same legislation being passed everywhere.
It's a global assault by the technocrats, by the transhumanist death cult.
On record.
It's not misguided.
Oh, these kids suddenly have gender dysphoria.
This was produced by the globalists.
This was established to do this.
On record, go to the heart of it.
Attack it with what it is: a weapons system.
Totally organize.
And all the thousands of established republications, abolish the family, get rid of the nuclear family.
The CIA in West Germany from the 60s on into the 90s got control of local governments through social services and the psychiatrist and placed over 30,000 children with convicted brutal child rapists starting at age three to, quote, create a new society based on pedophilia.
Remember that?
Oh, you didn't see any trials about that.
No.
And all these parents, oh, now on the forms in New Jersey and Washington State, dozens of things.
Oh, is your newborn gay?
Are they gay, trans queer?
Are they non-binary?
Are they?
And then you put down on the paper what your child is.
Oh, the child's supposed to decide when they're six or seven and get brainwashed because they're pushing them to that in the school.
But if the parents want to decide right away when they're born, they fast track them into it right away.
It's all, you can choose your kid's identity if it's the identity we want.
But if a parent says, no, that's my child, my nine-year-old, you've been brainwashing.
I'm taking him out of school.
No CPS comes and takes them in these states and around the world.
See how that works?
These are organized, satanic, pedophile cults.
All right, here's the clip from Pennsylvania University.
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Here it is.
University will be sending a personal apology to every female athlete who is forced to compete against a man.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
alex jones
And that's McMahon, the Secretary of Education.
They also had some of the school officials speak.
All right, we're going to go to break.
I'm going to come back and get into the economy and what the Federal Reserve is doing briefly.
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Even while he was still in, his daughter was running all the main cases and whitewashing them.
So that only limited information came out.
She's thrown another case on purpose, of course, as we predicted.
That's how they control something.
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on the P. Diddy verdicts in New York today.
And yeah, this is a very important issue if you just go past him and look at who was there throwing the case, limiting it as I predicted.
In fact, I asked the archivist to find it.
I predicted this because it's not even a prediction.
It's what they do over and over again.
People go, how does he predict that?
How does he predict this?
They have formulas.
They have methodologies.
that's what she does the family business is running blackmail pedophile sex slavery operations i mean when you have these people like epstein and diddy they're being handled by certain key people in the FBI and the CIA and Mossad.
And when something gets too big, they got to bust them to limit it and then shut it down.
So that's what they do.
All right.
I'm going to get more into that coming up.
But first, the Treasury Secretary is absolutely right.
The Federal Reserve is trying to sabotage the U.S. economy.
The Democrats are.
And Trump keeps saying, oh, Jerome Powell's a moron.
He's an idiot.
No, he's the head of the private Federal Reserve, but the shareholders are European central banks and private families.
So it's a very simple corporation.
They gave them big interest rate cuts six months ago.
Everybody else gets them.
We're not getting them.
That's designed to shut down this recovery, period.
Even with all the great tariff news, $120-something billion coming in.
Nope.
They're like, nope, we're not cutting interest rates.
So here is the Treasury Secretary talking about it.
scott bessent
Well, Laura, I can tell you that the overall Fed board has had two reactions to the tariffs, and it's a little bewildering to me why this wouldn't have pushed them more towards a cut or has put them on hold, because the Fed publishes something called the Summary of Economic Projections.
They raised their inflation forecast, and my hunch is that's going to be wrong, but they lowered their growth forecast.
So if you're lowering growth forecast, then why wouldn't you proceed?
We saw, I'm just basing Fed behavior on past behavior, and we got a 50-basis point cut last September, and inflation was higher, and core inflation was much higher.
So I don't know.
I guess this tariff derangement syndrome happens even over at the Fed.
Brian, I was just in touch with leadership up on the hill, and I can tell you we are moving toward a vote today.
And look, the 20 hours doesn't worry me because it's just the Democrats trying to obstruct this one big, beautiful bill.
President Trump has incredible momentum from the border to Israel-Iran.
Now we're going to bring it home on the tax bill, and then we'll do trade next week.
It's just the Democrats trying to stop the president's momentum.
sara eisen
Look how much we've been collecting in revenues.
And I did this in part because Wilfred's here, and he can talk about the UK trade deal.
But just this is the monthly numbers, and they have gone up a lot.
June is actually set for another big increase of $27 billion.
That is money coming into U.S. coffers from tariffs.
We are collecting a lot of revenues.
So far, guys, $121 billion has flowed into the U.S. government since the start of the fiscal year.
It's still a tiny portion of the overall revenues that the U.S. government gets, but it's increasingly a lot, especially if we haven't seen it in terms of the consumer paying off higher inflation.
alex jones
Another big talking point by the corporate media, though someone are telling the truth now, like you just saw in CNBC, is that Trump said 100 days to get 100 deals and he hasn't gotten any deals except Vietnam, which is officially done.
No, almost all these countries already agreed and are now trying to operate under it and getting it done.
And the UK, India, the list goes on and on.
So, yes, Trump is winning on this, and they don't want to admit that because they don't want the people to know it's working because they want to depress the economy and make you feel bad about it because that's the final ingredient that Trump needs for us not to panic and believe in the recovery.
We get the recovery.
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The first The first verdict on count one, racketeering conspiracy.
How do you find the defendant?
Not guilty.
And so now they'll move on to count two, count two, how do you find the defendant?
Not guilty.
That is the sex trafficking of Cassandra Ventura.
On count three, which is man-act transportation involving Cassie Ventura, guilty.
Count four, sex trafficking of Jane, not guilty.
Count five, man-act transportation of Jane, guilty.
So a mixed verdict here.
Not guilty on three of the charges, guilty on two of the charges.
Lisa, your reaction.
alex jones
Now, I do more than 30 hours total of broadcasting one way or another every week.
So the crew always has a monumental job to find stuff.
A lot of people on X find it.
I know at least a dozen times or more, I predicted that he would be found not guilty on the racketeering and organized sex trafficking, but that they would find him guilty of being a pimp.
That's what they did.
Now, why did I know that?
It wasn't even a prediction.
Maureen Comey, the daughter of the disgraced FBI director, who we now know did order the Epstein case covered up and not given to FBI offices around the country and hidden in New York.
And then they lied and told Pam Bondi and Cash Patel there were no files.
And then they had to raid it four months ago, if you remember.
We broke it here first with the whistleblower FBI O Boyle and then Kyle Serif.
So they had to raid the New York offices of the FBI and then across the road, you got the Southern District of New York with Maureen Comey and the other prosecutors who specialize in get all the major sex trafficking cases that are connected to U.S. and foreign intelligence.
Like Massad MI6.
They're all the same thing.
And that's all come out.
So she acts like, oh, you know, she's really going after him.
But what she does is just like in the Ghislaine Maxwell case and others that are given to her, that they're all given to her And a couple of the prosecutors in that unit, dozens of them.
And then it limits it to just one fall guy or one fall lady.
And then they always move later with error they put in there on purpose on the convictions that are there to then get their fall guys out.
Remember FBI's James Denneh resigned of Repstein files cover-up.
He had to resign.
He should be indicted.
And they get these guys that have Mr. America.
Ward Kleber looks and they go, well, that guy, you know, looks like a handsome conservative guy.
He's trustworthy.
Well, he's a former Marine.
And what did he say in his email that he sent to the FBI?
He said, we're dug in.
Trump's the enemy.
This is a war.
We're not helping him with anything.
That's obstruction of justice.
And he's so arrogant.
He was handpicked and put in there by Comey with his daughter in the Southern District and the FBI headquarters in New York to cover it all up.
So that's the Diddy story.
And we got to find it.
It's a needle in the haystack.
You know, when I say something 100 times like I do on certain issues and it comes true, it's easy to find, but 10, 15 times, I don't know.
I said, I think it'll be like all the other cases.
And she'll put on a show trial and they'll limit all the information.
They'll suck up all the witnesses.
And then all the lawsuits filed on Ghislaine Maxwell, all the lawsuits on P2D, all the other lawsuits on Nexium and all.
I mean, it's just hundreds of organized sex trafficking pedophile cases, not just Epstein, get sent to her.
And then her daddy famously controlled the files and used it for control, just like J. Edgar Huber did.
Similar things.
And it's come out in the UK that the government's run by MI6 and MI5 with all the files on the government being full of pedophiles.
Then they recruit more pedophiles in.
Remember, I had the head of counterterrorism in the CIA from Afghanistan on, and he talked about the public admissions.
He said he couldn't get into classified stuff, but he said it was true that the CIA would find pedophiles, not just in Afghanistan, but other countries, and put them in charge as mayors and as council members and as village leaders because they found they were the most loyal and didn't even want money.
They just wanted kids.
But they would get angry and say, we want more Viagra.
That was in the news, that the CIA had to fly in cases, pallets of Viagra for all the mayors in Afghanistan and had to supply them with little boys.
And the military would get pissed.
That's how we know about it and say, you know, I know some guys in the military that I was working out with a couple months ago, and I was talking about this.
And they go, yeah, we found out about that on the base once.
And they were CIA.
And we took our matters in our own hands.
And we went into that area of the camp where they had these little boys rape them.
And we basically almost beat these people to death.
Talking about the Afghans.
So, I mean, I'm like working out with Navy SEALs who aren't even really that political.
They're like, oh, yeah, we know about that.
So this is their management system.
This is how they control things.
You know, the people going to Epstein Island and Zarro Ranch and Peter Nygard, similar facility in the Bahamas.
You know that they know they're going to be videoed raping kids.
And it's not 15, 16 year old girls.
That's because in these cases, they limit it to those girls.
But that's just the stewardesses on the private jets are 15 years old, 16 years old.
And then you've got the women that manage it.
They're 25, 30 that are famous, who on record were purchased in Eastern Europe, a bunch of them by Epstein, who took to it like a duck in water.
Because you know, in sex abuse, one of the more famous girls was purchased when she was nine.
She's 30-something years old, a few years ago when this came out.
And she manages the girls.
And then they train them.
So Epstein in Florida would drive, you know, 50 miles to trailer parks and hand out cash to 12, 13, 14-year-old girls that were poor than everybody at home and say, hey, can you bring me more girls?
And then he would complain to Gizlane.
Oh, I'm having to have sex with five, six of these girls a day just to get them primed for the blackmail operation.
He would complain that he would have to train them.
So, and he recruited reportedly hundreds of girls out of that area of Florida alone.
But then they fly kids in out of Haiti, out of Ukraine.
I've had members of parliament from the UK that have exposed it.
They fly in babies and people rape them and then they harvest their organs.
And this has all come out.
Let me explain it again.
It's not just King Charles' brother having sex with 16-year-olds, then shot, you know, talked about it, so they had to be killed.
That's just one thing on the menu.
You know, you can get 16-year-old girls in any city in America with a phone call or an app.
If you go to a Super Bowl event, and I've had the law enforcement talk to them on air and off-air, they say it's the most horrible thing you've ever seen.
And they do it in cities with police chiefs like Houston, where they're on the payroll.
And the U.S. military I've talked to that surveilled it, other people that have come and briefed me that I know well, that some of You know some household names that they'll have to sit there in a five-star hotel in Houston,
is just one example while they watch literal pimps with guns standing in the hallways and whole hallways, whole wings are everything you can imagine, including children as young as nine and 10 that they've seen being brought in and delivered to men,
and they cannot do anything about it because the FBI is controlled and the local police are controlled.
Now, that doesn't mean the cop out writing tickets or responding to burglaries is even in on it.
No, they're compartmentalized.
You can have somebody with compartmentalization as an example, you can be in your apartment watching a nature program, and next door, somebody's cooking methamphetamine.
That's compartmentalization.
I was strangely enough once in a business, and some people start talking about Joe Rogan because they don't know him.
And they go, yeah, where is Joe Rogan in Austin?
I want to run into him sometime.
I go, you can go see him at his comedy club, The Mothership.
They're like, yeah.
So, you know, his podcast is cool.
I heard it's in South Austin.
And I'm sitting there and I go, yeah, it's pretty close to here.
It was in the building next door.
Now, I didn't tell them that, but that's an example of compartmentalization.
I'm sitting there while they're talking about Joe Rogan and his podcast and the rest of it.
And, oh, we hear he has an indoor archery thing in there.
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And I'm like, yeah, he does, yeah.
alex jones
It's like in Impartrix Back where he's like, yeah, where is Yoda?
I want to meet him.
He goes, oh, Yoda's not far.
I'll take you to him.
Not far.
He's just laughing.
But again, those are little cute examples of departmentalization.
Because departmentalization just knows, Yoda knows he's Yoda.
Luke Skywalker doesn't know he's sitting there with the Jedi Master.
So the cops don't know.
I mean, they see some stuff, but they assign then cops at the hotels and stuff that they will keep their mouths shut.
And it's a very small percentage of them that are, you know, bad.
But see, that's how it operates.
All you got to have is the DA and then anybody you don't want prosecuted and prosecuted.
That's what the movie, based on composite true stories, The Untouchables, with Sean Conrane and others, is about.
When the police are corrupt, most of the feds are on the payroll of Al Capone, so they have to create a special secret unit to go after him.
And then the mafia sends people to kill them.
And at a certain point, the FBI agents go, all right, we'll just start killing you, throwing them off roofs.
But see, that's what the Democrats and the deep state are pushing us into.
You want Trump to be able to stop these people and go after him.
You know, they sent out the files, the 14 terabytes of kids getting raped.
Four months ago, Bondi raided it like she said she do the day after she learned it happened.
They refused to turn it over.
They kicked the FBI head out.
The FBI raided the FBI.
And then Bondi did the right thing, talked about it on the TV, sent the files out.
And then I've talked to the FBI, multiple sources.
I said, yeah, almost no one is volunteering to go watch it or investigate it.
And I can't blame people at the end of the day.
I would want to go look at 14 terabytes of kids getting raped, but some of them signed up for that.
So they're stepping up.
But why aren't hardly anybody reportedly willing to investigate?
It's not just that they don't want to watch kids getting tortured.
You think they want to take on the globalist Bill Gates and people, the king of England?
They know your family gets killed.
So see, Trump isn't intimidated by these people and is ordering them to go after them.
But he doesn't have enough people that are hardcore.
So that's where we are.
And look, something like the Super Bowl in Houston years ago with just hundreds of kids being run into a hotel right in front of people sent in by the governor.
I'll just leave it at that to his credit in a secret operation with the military.
But then who knows what those files were used for?
Like you got good guys getting the information, then it's handed off to the state.
Is that being used for black mail by the state?
See, it's you never know.
I want to believe Greg Abbott was doing the right thing.
But where did the prosecutions come from from that?
Where were the Texas Rangers?
So that's what we're up against.
So now you know what's going on with P. Diddy.
And then there's the larger area of what's going to happen if we're here in six months and there's been no prosecution.
I'm going to call them Johns.
These aren't women doing it willingly.
These are underage people and kids.
The abusers, the rapists, the pedophiles, the demons.
If there's no prosecution, so we have the AG saying, yeah, I've seen it.
It's horrible.
Hundreds of new child victims.
And Epstein abusing him.
And she gets this crazy look and just starts shaking her head because I'd have a crazy look about, you know, knew that was going on for sure.
So she wouldn't say all that if they were planning to cover it up.
She wouldn't send it out to the FBI to all the field office.
But imagine just Plopping that down and say, All right, anybody wants to go to the secure area and start the investigation in our jurisdiction of this?
Go ahead, go in there, go in there and watch 14 terabytes of kids getting raped.
And I'm not defending the fact that nothing's going on, it appears.
I'm saying when you're faced with something so evil, even I, before I cover this, am like, ugh, just even thinking about it, and you don't want to believe it's real.
But it is.
It's like I had a caller yesterday.
It really made me mad.
I'm not mad at them.
It just made me mad.
I was showing him article after article how the AI is in all the microphones, in the smart light bulbs, in the cars, in the smart meters, listening to everything you're doing, recording it all, creating databases for total control, not looking for bad stuff you're doing.
It's part of a control grant into the future, the social credit score, and automation and making humans obsolete and not even letting you drive your own car in the future.
It's about making you obsolete vestigial.
And he's like, Alex, you know, sometimes this just makes you go crazy.
Let's just not worry about it too much.
And he said, you know, and he started bringing up speculative things.
And I said, no, no, this is admitted.
This is real.
This is happening.
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This is happening.
alex jones
And people are just like, well, I just can't face that.
Okay, all right.
So the reason we've gotten in this position is that evil understands that and gets people to commit such horrible acts that then society just doesn't even know how to process it.
And then when evil gets away with that, all these other evil people see it and join in and they like it and they go, my goodness, this is a free reign.
And the evil grows and grows and grows and grows until it brings down society.
And they've even incorporated that into a designed great reset to use that to collapse society, to depopulate.
So this is the philosophy of evil we're talking about.
And you've got to understand it.
And when you stare into the abyss, as Nietzsche said, you can become the abyss.
I mean, it's messed with my brain studying evil.
It gives me just, I. I mean, just knowing these guys and understanding them and being inside their heads, it makes me feel like guilty to even know about it and that we can't stop it.
And so I have a lot of satisfaction in the victories we have and we're finally starting to wake people up.
So things are changing and Aha is doing a great job.
But at the same time, I've had to analyze my own emotions about why do I tend to not want to cover this stuff?
And it's because it's horrible.
And I know you have a lot of you have the same feeling, but we have to do it for the children and for society because we're going to go over the edge into a cultural, spiritual black hole.
We're basically already there if we don't reverse this very quickly.
So we have to face the evil.
We have to admit it's real.
We have to engage it.
That's why they come after us trying to shut us down because they know we're willing to do it.
They know we're finding other people willing to do it.
They know we're having successes.
And so they want to try to shut us down and demonize us to intimidate you to never speak up or take action.
They want to use us as an example.
And that's why keeping this broadcast on the air is so critical.
Not just the future stories we're going to break and the new fake lockdowns we're going to stop and the new poison shots we're going to stop and challenging their fake narratives during false flags or when they're trying to launch a bigger war.
I mean, we really have their number, but it's also the symbol of InfoWars.
And what we've done together is an example and a testament to others that they don't want there because they don't want you to have hope and they don't want you to have faith.
Well, I know this.
If we don't fight, things are going to get a lot worse, a lot quicker.
We got to push back against this stuff and we're getting a lot of traction.
It's not moving as fast as we want, but you have to understand what good people are up against.
Had a caller yesterday go, why didn't Trump just hire tens of thousands of more Border Patrol and ICE and deport them?
The president doesn't control the power of the purse.
That's Congress.
That's what the BBB has in it.
And I know most of you know that.
It's just this magic wand stuff.
Okay, here's the 14 terabytes of the mass pedophile torture.
Okay, we raided the corrupt FBI Comey.
We got it.
Okay, here it is.
You've seen our border trips.
We've done probably not enough of them over the years, but maybe 20 times the last 10 years.
And in the last four years, it was bad at Obama.
I mean, I would have anxiety, I don't know how to describe it, beyond anxiety attacks.
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And I'm tough.
alex jones
Like, I wouldn't have anxiety attacks over grand juries trying to indict me and Congress trying to indict me and the J6 committee and testifying in front of them and all of it.
Really no anxiety.
Kind of like it.
Because it's about me fighting and I'm strong and I'm tough.
I'm wired like that.
But when I go down on the border and I see little kids being loaded in the back of hatchbacks and then handed over to guys that look like central casting opedos driving off in vans with no records, nothing, babies being handed off, I mean, all over the place like you're, you know, in a mall.
It's just, it's like an anthill.
And then I start trying to stop cars and get kids and call the cops over.
And of course, they'll do nothing.
And then I start going over stopping other cars.
The cops go, we're going to arrest you.
We don't stop.
And my security is like, I want to, like, we got to stop.
We want to kick these people's asses.
And we had to leave because imagine what would have happened if I'd have grabbed that guy out of the car and started choking him, which I came very close to.
We'll be right back.
In the last four and a half years, when we went down to the Texas border many times, they would be, we had undercover cops from another jurisdiction, the deputy police chief inside the Catholic charities.
And she comes out and she says, and she had a recording of it.
She said, there's a man in there demanding the three little girls he came here from Pennsylvania to get.
And I was asking him questions.
He confronted me and got my face.
And all of a sudden, he comes boiling out.
You've seen the footage and walks up to us, ball-headed guy, super creepy, got a white van right there.
He goes, yeah, I'm here to get these little girls and show them the way of the Lord and all this stuff and put them to work.
And she's inside hearing him going, I don't want any kids with their mothers.
I want little girls.
And my security guys are all former Army Special Operations and stuff.
I mean, highly decorated guys.
And after a few hours, they said, listen, we got to go.
We're going to start attacking these people.
And because they were loading babies in cars, not this guy, other people loading all these kids in.
And I was getting pissed.
And people saw the footage and they go, this can't be real.
This must be stage Jones jumping on cars.
No, I don't have the authority to stop these people.
I'm not a vigilante.
But let me tell you, when you see this going on, because there were other guys in the military behind me, they said they were getting really pissed.
And they wouldn't like put on an act until they were like on, you could say they were like glitching out.
They're like, after a couple hours, they're like, week, we got to go.
And I go back to the hotel, take a shower, and I just start, you know, not even crying.
I just lean over, because you're seeing super evil by Majorca and he's not in prison.
See, I was going back to that feeling.
And then if we go kill these people, they turn into victims.
And so, and then they, you know, we're terrorists and we get thrown in Supermax prison.
So I'm not going to do that.
But I'm telling you right now, I want them indicted.
And I'm not even talking about this taxi driver.
You know, they have this woman with these rim reaper tattoos all over her.
And all day she picks up a baby, goes to the airport.
We go inside.
She says in Spanish, yes, it's my baby.
No paperwork, hands it over, disappears.
Then I've interviewed the whistleblowers that were on similar flights that testified to Congress.
Seven-hour flights all over the country.
No diapers, no formula, feces all over the airplane, babies as young as three.
They don't even bring diapers and formula for them.
They then disappear them and no one knows where they are.
What the hell do you think is going on here?
And then people like Robert Rodriguez, who got funded by the Obama administration, came out, makes machete kills movies where Don Johnson goes out and goes, I hate Mexicans.
Let's spotlight Mexican women and shoot them in the belly and kill their babies.
And everybody gets mad and yeah, white people are killing Mexicans.
There's no white people down there killing Mexicans.
There might be a few cases you can find.
No, but Amnesty International, 80 plus percent of the women and girls coming across that border are raped and not by gringos.
Oh, once they get processed into the country, the gringos are picking them up.
Don't you worry.
But yeah, here's the scene right here.
Just like they used the Muslims to procure and run the rings and put the kids in the safe houses and then they delivered them to the gringos.
Oh, don't worry, there's plenty of white people hurting kids.
Oh, there's a lot of white people raping Hispanic kids.
Oh, that's going on.
But it's Hispanics raping them and delivering them.
And so the bottom line is it's an evil issue, not a skin color issue.
But not Robert Rodriguez, who was adopted by a white liberal family and who's whiter than probably I am.
No, he goes and makes movies to create racial division and create the stereotype that white people are raping and murdering Hispanics when it's the intelligence agencies and the tax-free foundations run by Maorkis that are doing it and disappearing the kids on purpose.
And Trump talked yesterday about wanting Maorkis investigated and indicted.
Praise God.
And you indict him, and we've got him 100 different angles.
You indict that demon.
All his minions will run like cockroaches and turn state's evidence and sing like canaries.
So, oh, tell me about PDD again.
Tell me about Epstein.
Look, I've said it.
They made it a priority, that's confirmed, publicly at the Justice Department to find Epstein's victims and go after the perpetrators.
And the FBI is spending a lot of time on that.
But that's a drop in the bucket compared to the Senate report, 345,000 children in slavery, in sex slavery of the million they estimate came in.
And they've been finding a lot of these kids and girls, but they have rights because they're minors.
And so the way the laws work, you don't ever hear about it because they're juveniles.
We don't even know the names because they were 16 of two of the four that were involved killing Jamie White, our reporter in March.
So that's an example.
People say, well, why don't we just find out where these kids are or who did it?
They are grabbing a bunch of these people.
And when they show up in Minneapolis or Denver or Austin, I got new videos Today in LA, where they're throwing rocks and bricks on the ICE vehicles again and slashing their tires and attacking them.
When they show up, CNN and the Soros Spanish-speaking mega radio stations are there saying where they are and go get them.
So, and then Pamondi says, CNN, if they keep doxing operations and sending out this app to people to go try to obstruct ICE, we're going to look at indicting you for racketeering.
And the media is like, total tyranny.
They're going after the press.
Well, that's weaponized.
What do you think would happen if I found out where they were going to do a meth or fentanyl raid?
I wouldn't do this, but hypothetically.
And then I said, oh, everybody go down to this raid that's happening in 30 minutes.
And then they also call the fentanyl house.
They do that.
I mean, they literally call the drug dealers or whatever.
You've seen it in the news.
Insiders in the FBI.
And the NGOs call up and say, ICE is coming.
And remember, Tom Homin said, oh, we're going to indict him.
We found out who they are.
Oh, that was four months ago.
Were they indicted?
No.
Oh, we've got an armed raid on human traffickers and people producing fentanyl and meth in the Denver cases.
And feds inside call so federal agents could get killed in a shootout.
And Holman said, don't amount to time until that happens and you're going to get charged with accessory to murder.
But that's the boldness.
I mean, I've got all these new videos today.
I've even gotten to where ICE is doing raids and people are so bold at the businesses and stuff, they step in front of the feds and start pushing them, just like the congresspeople, just like the mayors.
Let me tell you, if I found out about some drug raid and went and when the SWAT truck pulls up, I jump in front of them or I go bang on the door and say, look out, the police are here.
I would be indicted for obstruction of justice and aiding and abetting criminal groups and the commission of crimes as a co-conspirator in days.
And I should be.
So, but I would never do that.
These people are doing it.
So, so, so, see, oh, oh.
GNOME, DHS said is threatening CNN for reporting on migrants.
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alex jones
They are reporting where ICE raids are and giving people an app to go attack them.
Just like Hakeem Jeffries said.
We're coming.
We're going to say who you are, where you live.
With a gleam in his eye.
There's 5,000 enforcers right now up against 20 million illegals in the last four years.
We have been completely overrun.
And they call Trump and the U.S. government the bullies.
When the U.S. government does its constitutional duty, I back it 100%.
When it was being trained and prepared for civil war against American patriots, that's unconstitutional.
And they were out trying to create violent groups that they led.
You've seen countless examples of that.
But the idea of the feds raiding human traffickers and drug dealers, MS-13, TDA, and you see the Democrats and the corporate media and the Soros radio stations that he bought just a year ago for this.
In every major city of the country in Spanish with these rabble-rousing hosts, we played clips literally saying in Spanish, they're the enemy, they're bad, go confront them, don't let them do it.
And then you wonder why I shows up at some apartment building that's been taken over by drug dealers and human driver, and you wonder why there's a hundred fat white boomers with signs hitting the feds saying, get out of here.
And the feds have been told, don't be confrontational because they know the Democrats are trying to get a clash.
They leave.
And the images of 30, 40 feds being routed by a bunch of obese boomers with a sprinkling of brown beret communist Larry Conquista Che Guevara lookalikes.
Yeah.
Yeah, protesters jumping in front of feds cars, protesters driving their cars in front of the feds.
I mean, this is insurrection.
This is what they said we did on January 6th when it was a couple hundred feds and antifo that did it all on record.
I'm there saying, don't go in the building, but my bullhorn only goes out 100 yards.
I'm getting hit in the face with tear gas.
I said, it's going to be a Kent State.
We're being set up.
And of course, that's what it was.
Then the Wall Street Journal and CNN say Jones led the attacks like a coward, standing on top of car hundreds of yards away, telling everyone to assault.
Wasn't standing on a car.
I was standing on a pallet of bubble-wrapped chairs.
But the point is, I was only in InfoWars and Bandot Video then.
I wasn't on any major platform other than mine.
So they thought they could get away with telling everyone that I was there leading the attack.
But we just had my lawyers send the video over and say that day, and they retracted the next day.
But the point is, imagine if I didn't have InfoWars at that time.
Then I'd probably be in prison right now for leading the attack on the Capitol.
And it wouldn't matter because the feds would seize my Video that I would have nowhere to get out, and they would just put me in prison.
And despite our video with Owen with me on the bullhorn as well, saying don't go in, they indicted him and said he attacked and led the attack on the Capitol.
He was facing 40 years in prison.
He didn't have the money.
We already spent $400,000 defending him.
And so he pleaded bargained and spent four months in prison for attacking the Capitol.
Even though he was standing right there beside me, as you can see.
And they put in the indictment and in the court hearing, they said he does not work at Infowars.
That's perjury.
Want him indicted for that, Your Honor.
He led the attack.
It didn't matter.
We had videos saying don't go ahead.
It didn't matter because they just thought, well, we'll get him.
And it turned out was a big Washington Post article that I already knew about.
I knew it was accurate because I lived it.
My lawyers didn't want to talk about it at the time.
They did indict me in D.C. where they have like a 95% conviction rate and 95% are Democrats.
And Merrick Garland said, that's too political.
That's too obvious because of the video of me.
They thought that's a little too much.
Just get him.
Get Owen instead.
And then they'll all hear InfoWars host in jail for attacking the Capitol, prison.
See how they work?
They're like, no, that's a little too much.
Joe's a little too big.
But let's get Owen.
That'll still just make them sound like they're criminals.
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alex jones
And then that's not even right, 60 days.
It was months, months and months and months.
So, oh, by the way, I forgot to tell you about this.
I should have.
I had a debate last night, hosted one with Donesasus and Nick Fuentez.
It was very cerebral.
I'd say an A-plus.
But Pastor Greg Loke, he's been on the show before.
He pastors a mega church.
And I like a lot of what he has to say.
But boy, he said stuff basically about what I believe about Israel and the war that wasn't true and lumped me in with a bunch of other people.
And so he'll be in here with me next hour.
And then I'm going to get into Candace Owens.
Got a call from Trump saying, please stop saying that the wife of Macron is a man.
I'm trying to get a deal with him on trade right now.
And Macron asked me to ask you not to speak about it.
And of course, she doesn't lie.
I know it's true.
I believe it.
Trump does a lot of stuff like that.
But that shows the power of the independent media.
We're the big media.
The dinosaur media is tiny.
They're discredited.
But there's thousands of their outlets.
So together they can kind of chirp a big enough lie out, enough platformers to make people at least halfway believe it.
But it shows how weak they are.
You know, I've been sitting there with a very prominent person when Gavin Newsom calls up begging him to stop talking bad about it, a podcaster.
Might have heard of him.
But that's just an example of the big effect we're having and how scared these guys are.
And this pastor also, you know, criticized Candace Owens.
And, you know, what he said about her in Israel was basically true.
He just said that I said the star of David is the star of Renfam.
No, I said that's a different star of a different group in the Middle East that at the time did human sacrifices, and it's in the Bible.
I said the star of David is the seal of Solomon.
And in the big Jewish traditions and in their other holy books and the Testament of Solomon and all the rest of it, they give you the history of Jewish mysticism and the occult and the conjuring of demons.
And then the Protestant church will then say, that's demonic.
The Jews have never been involved in the occult.
Modern magic comes out of that.
And the Jewish mysticism goes back to Egypt.
So I mean, all those cultures were doing that.
So to say that King Solomon wasn't doing rituals, didn't have hundreds of wives.
No, that's history.
And that's in the Bible as well.
And that's the whole story of Israel.
When it is close to God, they're blessed.
When they get away from God, they're not blessed.
And God's always rebuking Israel when it's bad.
And then, you know, and then the Christian Zionists are like, no, you don't question whoever the leader of Israel is.
You just bless whoever's politically in charge, and then you get blessed, or you'll get cursed if you don't.
Well, that's funny then.
I guess Jesus has got a lot of trouble when he criticized the Jewish leaders in Israel and said, before this generation is over, that will all be destroyed, the temple.
And it was, not one stone on top of another.
And then Titus did it in 70 years.
And I guess John the Baptist is in hell because he criticized King Herod.
And that wasn't blessing Israel because whoever's in charge of Israel is Israel.
That means David shouldn't have not done what Saul, you know, David was wrong.
Saul was good.
Herod is good.
John the Baptist is bad, according to Christian Zionism.
I mean, by their logic.
So I'm going to ask him about all this when he's in here and just say, well, explain that to me.
So if I don't do whatever Netanyahu says, I'm going to hell.
And if I just go, no, it's not the Star of Renfam.
the seal of Solomon that he used in black magic.
I'm just stating the fact here.
But see, that doesn't comport with what the modern Christian church teaches because they teach Judaism is basically southern baptism.
Well, it's not.
And Judaism is a whole bunch of stuff.
You know, they got dozens of other holy books now after the Torah and different arguments about what's right and what's not.
Just like there's books in our Bible that got pulled out that we know were books at that time, but when it got translated over by the Orthodox Church and then by the Catholics and then by King James, just didn't make the cut.
All right.
So that's where we are.
But at the center of this, we have Maureen Cuome Comey and the rest of these people that, as I predicted, covered up what really happened here with Combs so that, okay, you're a pimp.
You did it alone.
That's it.
Everybody else is protected.
Now you can serve some time in jail.
And Combs sees it as a victory.
And that's the end of it.
And that's what her specialty is.
And it's why she gets handed all the cases.
But I like Pastor Greg Locke.
I mean that.
And I'm not trying to put words in his mouth when I talked about some of the Christian Zionists.
I'm not saying that's what he is.
We'll ask him what he is coming up.
I'm just talking about in general, you know, Pastor Hagee and all the rest of it.
I mean, my God, you hear more about Judaism and how it's the best and you hear about Jesus when you watch one of Hagee's sermons.
And I don't have some hard on against Judaism or Jews.
I know it's a very diverse group of ideas and things.
We've gotten a lot of amazing stuff out of that culture.
I literally, but I don't need to sit there when I preface that.
Oh, I'm not anti-Semitic.
People are sick of being beat over the head by that.
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alex jones
All right, ladies and gentlemen.
Special report coming up.
Dr. Fauci's freedom has expired in the special guest's studio.
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Dr. Fauci's freedom has expired in the special guest's studio.
jon bowne
In a fiery interview on the Tucker Carlson Show on June 30th, 2025, U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. dropped bombshell accusations that have been an inevitable conclusion if humanity is to survive the pharma mad science cash machine.
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What you would do if you wanted to find the answer, which is to compare outcomes in a fully vaccinated group to health outcomes in an unvaccinated group.
And CDC did that study in 1999.
They brought in a team of scientists under a Belgian researcher named Thomas Verstratten.
And they looked at the data.
They looked at children who had received the hepatitis vaccine within their first 30 days of life and compared those children to children who had received the vaccine later or not at all.
And they found an 11, 135% elevated risk of autism among the vaccinated children.
And it shocked them.
They kept the study secret and they manipulated it through five different iterations to try to bury the link.
And, you know, we know how they did it.
They got rid of all the older children, essentially, and Jets had younger children who are too young to be diagnosed.
And they stratified the data and they did a lot of other tricks.
jon bowne
Adding fuel to the fire, recent reports reveal that Pfizer has pushed back a critical study on heart damage in children vaccinated with its COVID-19 mRNA vaccines until 2030, despite the CDC admitting the condition as a side effect.
A study that should have been completed in 2023.
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They circulate on purpose, misinformation, so that they were misleading true information on purpose.
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And whilst myocarditis and pericarditis current findings at least convey might affect a small percentage of the population, it's likely they had access to that data long before it was shared.
jon bowne
But Pharma and Fauci are not sleeping as the flames rise higher.
A leaked Bio Vaccine Policy Steering Committee meeting document from April 3rd, 2025 exposes a calculated strategy by the Biotechnology Innovation Organization, BIO, representing giants like Pfizer and Merck to counter RFK Jr.'s influence amid an FDA regulatory shift.
The memo highlights concerns over RFK Jr.'s impact, proposing to divide the Maha movement from MAGA by enlisting conservative figures like Dr. Oz and Senator Cassidy, funding influencers to discredit him, and lobbying Congress with half of Bio's cash reserves to oust him from a potential health and human services secretary role.
It also suggests reframing vaccines as national security assets to rebuild public trust, reflecting a profit-driven agenda amidst rising flames of controversy.
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What we're alleging is that gain of function research was going on in that lab and NIH funded it.
That is get away from it.
It meets your definition and you are obfuscating the truth.
I'm not obfuscating the true nerve.
You are the one.
jon bowne
I'm not obfuscating the true nerve.
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You are the one.
I'm not obfuscating the true nerve.
robert f kennedy-jr
You are the one.
jon bowne
Transparency from the pharmaceutical industry has become a sick and deadly joke.
Kennedy's explosive interview, paired with Pfizer's jaw-dropping decision to kick the can down the road on its myocarditis study on children until 2030, is a rallying cry for Americans to demand justice before these psychopaths wipe us all out.
John Bound reporting for Info.
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Biological attack is imminent.
alex jones
Imminent.
It's going to happen.
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It's not a question of will it happen, but when it happens.
alex jones
A bioweapon release could be the thing they'd release to bring in a world government to counter a global problem.
And the UN has said that a global pandemic is the only thing that may save their world government.
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This is a biological warfare agent that had leaped out of the Wuhan laboratory.
alex jones
Pastor Greg Locke in studio in 60 seconds.
Spread the links now.
All right.
Well, Pastor Greg Locke has been on Owen's show a few times.
We've covered some of the stuff he's done.
He really stands up to the left, stands up to the lockdown, stands up for President Trump.
I'd say I agree with about 95% of what he says.
LockeMedia.org, that's L-O-C-K-E, Pastor Locke on X. I'm not going to go over his whole bio, but he's the author of six number one best-selling books.
He's an executive producer of the groundbreaking film, Come Out in Jesus' Name, which reached number four at the U.S. box office and currently streams worldwide.
A bold voice in modern Christianity, he is the founding and lead pastor at Global Vision Bible Church in Lebanon, Tennessee, just outside Nashville.
He is also the founder of Locke Media and Global Vision Press.
He also holds a bachelor's degree in biblical studies and a master's in revival history.
He hosts the prophetic news podcast, Red Sky, Signs the Times, and leads the rising news platform of the same name.
He serves as the President Donald Trump's National Faith Advisory Board and is a headline speaker at the Reawaken American Tour ministries alongside key leaders of America's Judeo-Christian Awakening.
He and his wife serve in full-time ministry, raising six children and one grandchild while dedicating their lives to reaching the oppressed, the outcast, and those forgotten by the church.
And so I appreciate you coming on.
I was probably a little mean last week when I played that, but I'm pretty well known for that.
But no, I mean, I'm familiar with your work.
We like your work overall.
You just, and I'm not attacking Candace Owens or anybody.
I think you accurately described her.
And I think overall she's a good person.
You lump me in with that other guy who I personally have known, seen his transformation into literally a Hitler worshiper.
And he's lied about me and just made up stuff.
So I know that he's a bad guy.
But I know you're a theologian, and so I remember really having a debate with you because I know you know more about the Bible than I do.
I've also read a lot of history, Roman histories.
I've read synopses of the other Jewish holy books that came after the Torah.
And so I've mainline history about Solomon and all the rest of it.
I wasn't saying star of Renfam.
It's a different group was doing that and sacrificing kids under Renfam.
So I wanted to just let you know I'm not saying it's the star of Renfam and it's the seal of Solomon.
But here's a clip that got us in touch with each other.
I said, hey, I'll not even debate you.
I'll have a discussion with you.
You were nice enough to come down to your busy schedule.
But here's a clip that got it all started last week.
pastor greg locke
And, you know, you look at people like Candace Owens and you're like, holy smokes, did you see the change that she made so unbelievably quickly?
And then even people that are like wild cards like Alex Jones, right?
InfoWars.
I like Alex.
I've been on InfoWars a number of times, but he's wrong when it comes to the Jewish people.
Now he's teaching as of last week.
The star of David is satanic symbolism and nonsense.
And I'm going to address all of that here in a little while.
Star of Rephidim and all that.
So, did you know there's African nations right now that have a real genocide butchering people by the tens of thousands?
And that's not on the news.
Where's Candace talking about that?
Where's Tucker and Alex Jones then?
Right?
Where's 2 Peters?
They're not talking about it because it doesn't deal with Israel.
Because in the last days, the Bible doesn't say the world will rise against Africa.
The world will rise against, you know, this, this, and this.
It says the world will rise against Israel.
The word Israel basically is, you know, God's people.
L, E-L.
This is the people of God.
The word Israel itself is the prince of God.
And so obviously people are going to come against them.
Well, they do terrible things.
Of course they do terrible things.
Evangelicals do terrible things.
alex jones
All right.
Just one more point that I'll shut up for a while and try to give you the floor.
I do cover the genocides going on in Africa and Trump just did that great peace deal down there with Rwanda, their neighbors.
And I do cover South Africa.
And so I'm actually not Israel obsessive from the Christian Zionist angle or the, if you slip on a banana pill, the Jews did it.
And I actually think the Jewish people have done, obviously, are very special people, done a lot of amazing things, good and bad.
Like any group, you're going to have that, an exceptional group, you know, exceptional good, exceptional, bad.
And so, you know, we do come out of the Abrahamic tradition.
So it is Judeo-Christian.
People attack that, but it comes out of the Jews.
You know, the three big faiths, we know the real counterfeit is obviously Islam.
But I just want to set the record straight that I am covering all those other things.
So thanks for being here.
I've been talking for five minutes.
You got the floor.
Pastor, thanks for coming to town.
pastor greg locke
Oh, man.
Thanks for having me.
And I appreciate the fact that we can come together and have a discussion.
It doesn't have to be argumentative.
But I think the last days, the Bible is referring to the fact that so many people are going to come against Israel and the Jewish people because of the fact of who they are and the lineage and the heritage that they have.
So if we talk about geopolitical issues and all the politics, you know, you and I could talk all of that for a very, very long time.
But from a biblical standpoint, here's what we have to understand.
Any form of Christianity that would cause people to want to hate Jewish people is an antichrist ideology, right?
I'm from a deliverance background, a deliverance ministry flowing in the fivefold.
We talk about demons and demonology.
Well, anti-Semitism has been a demon for a very, very long time because we understand that Jesus is from the lion of the tribe of Judah.
We understand that he's coming again to establish forever credibility for the throne of David.
Everything in the Bible that we have today, being blessed as a people, everything spiritually that we have from God has Jewish fingerprints all over it.
So of course, in the last days, people are going to turn against Israel.
We face the bears.
We face the lions.
And I said two years ago prophetically to our church that in the last days, the Goliath that the church in America especially will face is the Goliath of still having to stand with the people of God.
Understandably, their governments, that's not who God's in covenant with, right?
God's not in covenant with the government and with Netanyahu and his administration.
He's in covenant with the people, the people of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
And so I'm appreciative that we can at least come to the table, open a Bible, and say, what does the word of God really say about the truth of the Jewish people?
And so I'm not broad-stroking and saying that Jews always make the right decisions.
I'm not saying their government has always made the right decisions.
I'm saying that they are still to this day in a covenant with the Lord.
And replacement theology has become a damnable heresy that the church has now somehow, you know, replaced Israel and we are Israel when nothing can be further from the truth.
And I think we need to discuss that from the Bible.
So Alex, thank you for having me.
Let me just say that that's why I said there in that little montage that you showed that I do appreciate Alex Jones because you've been right on so much.
Even when people hate you, you just do not care.
And so I appreciate that very much.
And so I have seen people like the man you mentioned a moment ago, Stu, how far he's gone out and Candace, it just seems like every day it's anti-Jew and non-Holocaust and the whole Tucker connection and all of that.
So I was surprised to even hear anything from your vantage point in a negative view at all, because I never would have viewed you in that way.
And I'm not saying you're a Jew hater.
I'm not saying you're an anti-Semite.
And so I appreciate that maybe that little bit of misrepresentation brought us together to the table today.
alex jones
Absolutely.
And I get things wrong and also hyperbole.
So I talk three, four hours a day, five hours a day.
So I want to be clear.
I've been hated by the Nazis and people obsessed with Jews.
And it is like a religion.
It's a satanic religion where they just obsess on Jews all day.
But at the same time, when Israel or leaders do bad things, I'm going to cover it just like any government.
If our government's doing something bad, I'm going to criticize it.
When Trump does something I don't agree with, I overall totally support him, but I'm going to say I think that's wrong.
People say, oh, now CNN, Jones, turn against Trump.
No, I didn't.
So, you know, the larger issue is obviously Jews are exceptional.
And anyway, everybody has exceptional people in their group, but Jews are at the center of history for thousands and thousands of years.
And the Germans envisioned the bomb and theoretically, you know, developed it.
The Jews built it.
So you can say, is that a good or bad thing?
I mean, we just continue to see what they were saying in their writings, like the hand of God is in this.
So no one can deny that.
And so you're going to have groups that just say everything's bad that comes out of it.
And then not you, but I see some Christian Zionists that say, no, everything's good that comes out of it.
I try to just differentiate it and call balls and strikes.
And quite frankly, have tried to not avoid the issue, but just deal with policies.
So it doesn't become, you know, this group, that group.
There's groups that say it's the Vatican runs it all.
There's groups that say it's the Masons and all that.
No, it's good and evil operates in every system and in individuals and families and in communities.
That's the real struggle in my view.
And so I try to just break all the taboos because of political correctness and think that we should be able to have everybody on.
And so listeners overall like it, but some people say, well, wait a minute.
One day you get somebody on that thinks nothing bad about Jews.
The next you get somebody on that's for them.
This is the real debate and the real discussion that the left and the globalists don't want.
So I think it's very healthy and I'm glad we're having it.
We can go for the next few hours here.
So Pastor, give us your view and your research.
You're obviously a smart particular guy on why are the Jews so special?
I think we can say everybody's special.
You say America's been exceptional.
The Russians have been exceptional.
The Chinese are everybody's amazing.
But there is something particularly special about the energy surrounding Israel and the Jews and their history and culture in the world.
And there's an obsession by those that totally love Israel and those that hate it.
And then there's everybody else trying to figure out what's going on.
Why were they saying 4,000 years ago, this is going to happen?
And then it continues to happen.
There is something obviously very special there.
But like Mike Tyson says, if God gives you favor, so does the devil.
So just like the devil tried to tempt Christ up on that mountain, you're going to have Jews that do amazing things.
But if you're favored by God, the devil's also going to be there giving you extra temptation.
pastor greg locke
Well, the reason they are so special is because they are the only nation on the planet that has a covenant with the Lord.
You know, Genesis chapter 12, verses 1 through 5, you know, you have Abram, the high exalted father, whose name is turned to Abraham, the father of many nations.
And God said, I'm going to bless those that bless you, curse those that curse you.
You'll never see in the Bible a progression of Abraham, Ishmael, right, and Jacob.
It's Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
And so the reason they're special is because they're the only nation that has a special covenant with Almighty God.
And so in God's sovereignty, he takes this group of people that is, in my estimation, biblically, the greatest miracle in the history of the world.
The greatest miracle was not the parting of the Red Sea.
It was the people that walked through it.
The fact that they still live to this day, since Genesis 12 was quoted, you have 4,023 some odd years.
And there's been less than 100 million Jewish people in the entirety of the world.
And the fact that they still exist through Holocaust, through all the problems, through all the hatred, through everything that's going to come out of Daniel, Ezekiel, Revelation.
And again, like you said, we could talk about this stuff for hours.
But America is a great nation that's been blessed by God, but we're not in covenant with God.
Iran's not in covenant with God.
Germany's not in covenant with God.
Africa's not in covenant with God.
Only Israel is in covenant with the Lord.
And so that's why Paul says in the book of Romans, has God cast away his people?
God forbid, he's not cast away his people.
And so everything we have from the Lord has Jewish fingerprints.
Our Bible is a Jewish Bible.
Our Savior is a Jewish Savior.
Every miracle Jesus did, he did 40 miracles, if you include his virgin birth and the resurrection, right?
He did 40 major miracles.
All of them were done in Israel.
Everything we have from God came from a Jewish perspective.
The church was started by Jews.
We have the gospel because of the Jews.
In Acts chapter 10, a Jew gave it to the Gentiles, even against his own will, but in God's sovereign plan, he allowed him to do it.
And so everything we look at that we have from God has Jewish fingerprints all over it.
And so that's why Paul says, look, there will come a time that Israel will be open to the gospel.
By the gospel, I mean Romans 1, 16.
Paul said, I'm not ashamed of the gospel, the death, the burial, the resurrection of Christ.
For it is the power of God and the salvation.
Then he says this, to everyone that believes, the gospel is for everybody, but to the Jew first and also to the Greek.
Is he saying that the Jews are more important in the gospel?
No, he's saying that we wouldn't have the gospel without the Jews because John 1, 11, and 12 says, Jesus came into his own.
We know according to Matthew 1, Jesus was a Jewish person.
He came into his own.
His own received him not, but as many as received him, to them gave he the power to become the sons of God.
So people can be mad that Jews have rejected Jesus.
But from a Gentile standpoint, we would not have Jesus if the Jews had not rejected him.
alex jones
No, I get that.
And that's where I was going to go next.
You just went there.
People then go and look at the pieces with you're the synagogue of Satan, blah, blah, blah.
But that's in the Old Testament where God's constantly through the prophets rebuking the corrupt system, but still God chose the Jews.
And so that's absolutely true.
So why from your deep research historically and also the Bible, why did God choose the Jews to do his covenant and then his message?
And then you can see how that works in the dialectic where the Messiah comes, it gets rejected, and then it gets totally proven and creates this entire system that then manifests the prophecies to the T and then comes back where it's right in front of everybody.
pastor greg locke
Yeah, it's right in front of everybody.
And right now, the Bible says that blindness in part has happened to Israel.
So we can be as mad as we want to that the Israeli people, you know, they rejected Jesus.
Of course they did, but it opened the way for us to believe.
And so there will come a time, the Bible says in Romans chapter 11, all Israel as a nation shall be saved.
alex jones
So we should look at Jews that reject Christ like the prodigal son, you know, running off from his dad and feel sorry for them is what you're saying.
Instead of getting mad at them when a lot of them, not all of them, not the majority, say really bad things about Christianity.
And a lot of Christians see that and they go, what is this?
pastor greg locke
Absolutely.
Well, I want to make a differentiation.
I think it's important.
Individual Jews, according to Romans 10, 23, whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
That's a Jewish passage.
They're in the same responsibility as we are today to repent and believe the gospel.
So an individual Jew has to be saved.
There's not multiple ways of salvation just because you're a Jew, okay?
So understand that individually, Jesus is not a way to heaven.
He's the only way to heaven.
John 14, 6, he said, I'm the way, the truth, and the life.
He said that the Jewish people.
alex jones
And then the prophecies are all coming true and it dominates the world.
It's the proof right there.
pastor greg locke
Yes.
But what we have to understand is although that individual Jews have to be saved the same way we do, there will come a time that nationally the covenant will be fulfilled.
The fullness of the Gentiles will come in.
Meaning by that, the last Gentile will get born again, wherever that is, however that happens.
And in that moment, the Bible says that the scales will be removed from the eyes of the Jewish people.
They will look upon him whom they have pierced, and a nation shall be born in a day.
All Israel shall be saved.
So from a covenant standpoint, they are under the grace of God as a nation.
Israel as a nation will be saved.
As individuals, they still have to respond to the gospel the same way we respond to the gospel.
That's the purpose of the whole book Of Hebrews.
It was Christian people trying to go back into Judaism and say, Well, you know, I've trusted Jesus, but now I need all the works of the Lord.
alex jones
And then a lot of people that are only, you know, anti-Jew, they say, No, no, no.
It's not that a bunch of Jews are being converted to Christianity now.
They're really infiltrating.
And I think there's some of both going on, but you can't deny that there is a definite all-to-the-world Jews coming to Christ.
pastor greg locke
Oh, 100%.
Yeah, many of them coming to Christ.
And I think it's beautiful.
It's very controversial, but think about this for a moment.
I think Mike Huckabee even brought this to pass when he became the ambassador to Israel.
And that is this.
A Jewish person has no obligation to support me as a Christian.
But as a Christian, I have a biblical obligation to support Jewish people.
Again, as a national covenant, as a people, not as the individual redeemed.
alex jones
And again, what the devil does for bad, God uses for good.
You can argue, yeah, there are some Jewish charities, organizations, and groups that think they're manipulating Christians and think it's a joke.
But no, the Trojan horse is there.
You won't be laughing soon.
pastor greg locke
Sure.
alex jones
Do you get what I'm saying?
pastor greg locke
I get it 100% with you.
alex jones
Yeah, that's how God works.
unidentified
Yes.
pastor greg locke
And I don't think people recognize this unless you go to Israel, and I go a lot, right, about 20 weeks a year, but unless you go there, here's what you don't recognize.
Because Jews don't read the New Testament, right?
They're totally Torah and minor prophets, major prophets, historical books, Psalms, Proverbs.
They don't read the New Testament.
And so they obviously not just have a blindness, they have an ignorance to it.
And so what we need to recognize is because of that, their only view of Christianity is what they see in Israel, which is 95% predominantly Catholic.
So when I talk to my Jewish Orthodox friends, my rabbis that I work with and all of this, they say, okay, let me ask you some questions.
And the questions are all Catholic-related questions because all they see is all the major sites of Christianity in Jerusalem have been, you know, dominated by the Catholics.
They've built these shrines.
And so they think we're all worshiping Mary.
They think we're all worshiping these golden statues.
So 95% of them have this perception, this context, this literal Candace Owens context that Catholicism is biblical Christianity.
That's all they understand.
And so when they meet a guy like me or like you or somebody that says, no, no, I want to understand you, but let me tell you what the Bible says about the Messiah, the Mishiach, what they say.
The Messiah to the Jews is a concept and a construct, not of a man, but of an institution, right?
Of something that brings a man in.
And they look at me and they're like, wow, you know the Old Testament so well, and you speak to us in a way that we understand.
We've never met a Christian like you.
That's because most of you think that Catholicism is straight Christianity.
Does that make sense?
And so they have a skewed mindset.
So when we step on the platform and say, look what the Bible says, I can show you where the Holocaust is in the Bible, where 1948 is in the Bible.
And I can show them things in their own scriptures.
Then the light bulb begins to come on and they're like, wow.
alex jones
And everything in the New Testament is perfectly tied back to the Old Testament, repeating it over and over again.
pastor greg locke
A thousand percent.
1 Corinthians chapter 10 says that everything in the Old Testament that happened to Israel was for our example today in New Testament days as believers.
God uses them as an example, good and bad, because they did some crazy stuff and still do to this day.
But don't we all?
The whole purpose and the idea is that God's love and God's sovereignty is shown in a small, minute group of people that should not exist.
And the only reason they do, Paul said, is for the glory of God, to prove the Lord of God.
alex jones
And of course he was a persecutor of the Christians.
pastor greg locke
Yeah.
alex jones
But he got hit on the road to.
pastor greg locke
He was a Jew of the Jews, Hebrew of the Hebrews, on the road to Damascus in Acts chapter 9.
alex jones
So what happened to him?
And that's kind of the archetype of what's going to happen to all the Jews in the end.
pastor greg locke
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, he very much is a prototype of what's going to happen.
alex jones
Just like David's a prototype of Christ.
pastor greg locke
He got stuff from the high priest.
He said, I'm going to kill the Christians.
I'm going to go in, pillage the village.
I'm going to burn it all down, put them in jail.
And he's going.
And Jesus, in a great light, lighter than the sun, knocks him off his horse, puts him on his face.
And he says, hey, it's hard for you to kick against this prick's, the conviction, because he was there when Stephen was stoned.
And he saw that, this man that have such conviction for Christ.
And he saw that.
It bothered him.
He fell on his face and he said, Lord, what do I do?
And at that moment, he's converted to Christianity.
The scales are removed from his eyes.
And that's why he says later in Romans 11, one day the scales nationally will be removed from the eyes of the Jewish people and they will accept their Messiah.
Here's what I told my rabbi friend just really a couple of months ago.
I said, look, if I really believed what the Bible teaches, if I really believed this stuff about Jesus being the Messiah, because to me it's a second coming, to them it's a first coming.
I said, then why wouldn't I help you fulfill prophecy so that we can usher in the Messiah so you can know that the Bible is right?
And he said, I never thought about that.
We in the Jews, we believe 90% of the exact same things, but we disagree on the Messiah, which then people say, well, you know, you're talking about this red heifer program and you're talking about the third temple being rebuilt and all of these things.
That's the Antichrist temple.
That is utter nonsense.
The Antichrist steals the temple.
He goes in in the middle of the seven-year fake peace treaty and offers the abomination of desolation, right?
He tries to take over the temple, but three times in the Bible, twice in the book of Zachariah, the third temple is called the house of prayer for all nations where the glory of God dwells.
Jerusalem will be the center.
alex jones
Let's talk about that.
I mean, I'm not a pastoral, but I've been a lot of Sunday school.
And then who are the two prophets or messengers that get sent back?
pastor greg locke
There's going to be two witnesses in the book of Revelation.
alex jones
Yeah.
And they come back.
Who are they there?
pastor greg locke
Yeah.
Well, we don't exactly know who they are.
A lot of people said they're going to be Elijah and Moses.
They're unnamed.
But what we know is they come back and for some time they give the government and the Antichrist a fit.
They kill them.
God resurrects them.
The whole world sees it.
And we know for sure at that point that, wow, God is going to protect his people.
Because by the way, they're Jewish evangelists.
And so are the 144,000 in Revelation chapter 7.
12,000 from each one of the 12 tribes of Israel, which equal 144,000.
It's not Jehovah's Witnesses.
It's Jewish male virgin evangelists that evangelize the world with the gospel.
And it's powerful.
alex jones
Well, what's amazing is you look at Revelation, it's all starting.
And I, you know, I don't know if it's 10 years, 100 years, but it's definitely all happening.
And the Satanism is all out in the open.
And we're not talking about the Satanists, the pedophiles, all, even a lot of Rott Wingers who talk about Jews all day.
At the end of the day, I just want to oppose the evil.
You know, I see people all over the internet, and I love reading comments everywhere because I get a lot of good ideas from it, a lot of leads.
It's very thought-provoking.
And I see people say, Well, you know, Alex Jones has somebody on that's totally anti-Israel, and then he has somebody on that's pro-Israel.
And you know, he's not for Iran, the mullahs, but he also was worried about these attacks.
Well, I just looked at some of the dangerous things that could happen, like this fattawa now and all the rest of it.
And I just try to have a large debate because I think that's where we really get the most important knowledge and discussions.
So we're going to do the whole next hour with you.
This is a great interview.
You're going to be on with Owen today.
They're in the war room as well.
Pastor Greg Locke, great guy, you know, good heart, smart guy, stands up for all the right issues on Trump's commission.
And overall, Trump is such a blessing and such a good man.
As Robert O'Kenny Jr. said, getting to know him, he's such a real person, such a great person.
I was talking to one of my friends that just had dinner two nights ago with him and his family with Trump for like two hours and how gracious Trump was and how gracious Trump's been to me.
Just an amazing person.
So, you know, at the end of the day, though, we're all imperfect.
We see through a rose color darkly.
But real quick, because you said you'd do it, and it usually takes 30 minutes to an hour to hit.
We've done this with every other guest that wanted to do it.
Everybody wanted to do it.
And this isn't pressure, me pre-loading it.
Every guest that took it within 30 minutes to an hour felt focus, clarity, amazing energy.
I've given it to over 400 people.
Three people I've given it to didn't feel anything.
My medical doctor six years ago, when I got my Gen X test and stuff, said, you have high mitochondrial function, but this gene to get the energy out partly broken.
You should take methylene blue.
I took other methylene blue USP grade.
Didn't one tenth as strong.
We got, by blessing from God, the very best medical grade in the last six, eight months.
It's a bestseller times five, funding our whole operation, our legal defense.
And I know you'll be honest about it.
If you don't feel it or have a bad effect, because one of the crew members took it and a few people also say it makes people think they're going crazy.
I know you'll tell us.
But it hasn't happened yet.
So I'm going to give you, you want a half dose or a full dose?
pastor greg locke
You give me whatever.
My wife and I were talking about it two weeks ago about ordering this.
alex jones
So here we go.
I'm going to give you about an 80% dose.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
All right.
pastor greg locke
I got you.
alex jones
So we'll, there you go.
And it's like a I like to spike it with pure medical grade, a little iodine in there.
pastor greg locke
You're the boss.
I just work here.
alex jones
Okay.
pastor greg locke
Just don't put that crazy in there.
alex jones
No, no, no, no, no.
We'll see what happens.
pastor greg locke
The Bible says I can drink poison in the Holy Ghost to help me.
alex jones
Well, absolutely.
But this goes in and basically energizes the cells, cleans them out.
And the short-term effect, almost everybody feels literally 99%, the long-term effect is what is really amazing.
But if you're not on any SSRIs, right?
unidentified
Nope.
alex jones
Yeah.
And so people should talk to their physicians first because this isn't a joke.
And so it has some drug interaction.
So anybody that's going to get this, talk to your physician first.
Pastor, go ahead and knock that back, and we're going to see what happens.
pastor greg locke
All right.
We'll see, my friend.
alex jones
Pastor Greg Locke taking the ultramethylene blue, which you can buy one bottle, get a bottle free right now.
That goes for all the supplements.
pastor greg locke
I'm going to add soda water, but we'll go for it.
alex jones
For our 4th of July super sale that's funding the operation.
The Democrats trying to get us off the air, but we're winning actually right now.
Praise God.
Talk about miracles.
All right.
So I'll ask you when we start the next hour, have you feel it yet?
And then we'll have, yum.
pastor greg locke
Right.
alex jones
And if you don't feel something in the next hour and a half, then you'll be the fourth person that has it.
And that means your mitochondria, my doctor told me, means it's working perfect.
Okay.
So we'll see.
But what's your genetic background?
It's Northern Europeans that generally have the mitochondrial issue.
So you look pretty Northern European.
So I'm predicting it's going to hit you hard.
Okay.
What's your genetic background?
pastor greg locke
European.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
I mean, particularly?
pastor greg locke
More, I guess I'm German, quite a bit of German, a lot of Welsh, quite a bit of Welsh.
alex jones
That's me.
I'm Welsh and German mainly.
pastor greg locke
They told my wife forever that she was Italian, and we went and had one of them spit tests, and she came back 44% Jewish.
So here we are.
No Italian.
alex jones
Wow.
That's interesting.
So she didn't even know she was Jewish.
pastor greg locke
Had no idea.
So when we go to Israel, they're all the time talking Hebrew to her.
She's like, nah.
alex jones
Was it Sephardic or Ashkenazi?
pastor greg locke
Ashkenazi.
alex jones
Interesting.
So she had Eastern European roots?
unidentified
Yeah.
pastor greg locke
Yep.
unidentified
Yep.
pastor greg locke
About 44% on that Ashkenazi Jewishness.
We had no idea.
No idea.
alex jones
Wow.
pastor greg locke
Yeah.
I showed a picture to a rabbi friend of mine.
He said, she's probably 80%.
You better spit again.
alex jones
That's interesting.
Yeah.
All right.
So we'll see what happens.
Now, from your biblical research and perspective, you got a degree in this, you were seeing a lot of really interesting things when it went to break.
So please continue.
pastor greg locke
Yeah.
Well, I ended on 144,000.
So I want to kind of segue into that because here's what a lot of people hear, and I know you've heard this from guests and from others, they say, well, you know, the Jews of today aren't real Jews.
You know, they started with the Rothschilds and all of that.
And these are not the real descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, which I think really is utter nonsense.
Because first of all, any Jewish person understands their heritage.
They know what tribe they're from.
They can simply tell you.
But if there's going to be in the future, this has not happened yet, Revelation 7, if there's going to be a future event whereby God's going to seal 12,000 out of each one of the 12 tribes of Israel, equaling 144,000, as we said, then that means these people have to exist on the earth.
Where did they come from?
So there has to be enough people remaining.
That remnant still has to be there in Revelation 7, halfway through the tribulation period, for God to come up with 144,000 people.
So to say that Jewish people today are the synagogue of Satan and they're liars and they're fake and they're not blood relatives to Abraham is nonsense.
Furthermore, I will say this.
There are five times in the Bible.
You have Isaiah, Zachariah, Amos, you have Ezekiel, actually two in Zachariah, where the Bible predicts, proclaims, we could look up the verses if we had time, where the Bible says, as the Jewish people in the last days return to the homeland, that the vegetation will grow, that the wineries will expand, and that the desert itself will actually blossom.
Mark Twain, 100 some odd years ago, he wrote a book and said that Israel was a desolate, barren wasteland.
There was nothing there but just desert.
And now if you go, it looks like a forest.
There's vegetation there.
And So, when you step on the land, there's almost this prophetic feeling that flows through your body.
Because, look, you can say they're not real Jews, they're occupiers.
The ground does not prophetically grow for fake Jews, right?
The Bible is being fulfilled the more that these people move back to the homeland.
And the Bible predicts in Ezekiel that the great number of people that will come is directly north of Jerusalem, which is Moscow.
And there's more Russian Jews that are moving back to Jerusalem in Israel right now.
alex jones
And Putin just pointed that out last week.
pastor greg locke
Yeah, absolutely.
And so to say that these people aren't real Jews is really nonsense because they can trace their history and they still have a future prophetically.
And I remind you, Jesus is not coming back to rule and reign in America.
He's coming back to Jerusalem.
He's not coming back to the capital of Israel for a bunch of fake people.
He's coming back for his covenanted people.
alex jones
And if you look at Hitler, he would have won World War II, mainline estimates, but he spent more money trying to kill all the Jews.
And he was obsessed with it than actually winning the war.
pastor greg locke
Yeah, it was unbelievable.
alex jones
Because he was totally driven to do it.
pastor greg locke
Yeah.
And sadly, and here's what a lot of Christians will say.
Well, he used the documents of the great reformer, Martin Luther.
He sure did.
Martin Luther, I'm glad he came out of the Catholic Church, but it didn't come out far enough because he really did hate the Jews and said, oh, these are the people that are causing all the problems in the world.
And we recognize there's only 100 million of these people that have ever lived in existence.
And today there's only 15.7 million Jews on the planet.
So I want people to put their mathematical thinking caps on for a moment.
If there's only 15 million Jews on the planet, think about this.
There are, and I'll say this kindly as a pastor, there are 400 million people that identify with the LGBTQIA.
400 million.
So there are 30 million.
alex jones
Let's show some B-roll of their pride parades.
Boy, they certainly aren't blessed.
They'll weigh about 400 pounds.
They look like a demon sucker's hole.
pastor greg locke
I mean, 385 million more, can I say sodomites than there are Jews, and yet the Jews are the denigration of society.
It's nonsense.
It's utter nonsense.
It's this small, little, tiny group of people.
Think about this.
alex jones
Well, I think the argument is, if God favors you, so does Satan tries to get you.
pastor greg locke
Oh, absolutely.
alex jones
Jews do exceptional things.
Be liars.
We didn't say it.
Overperformers, other than maybe like some of the Germans have been overperformers.
That's why they kind of went head to head.
That's what two dominant groups do with the IQs and all the creativity in England as well as Scotland and Ireland.
But if you pull back from that, if you look at the directors of the major porn industries and porn hub and all the other things, and at the center of pushing all this stuff, it is overrepresented by Jews.
So people look at that and they say, well, the Jews must be completely bad.
But in my experience, like Spider-Man says, with great power comes great responsibility.
So you would say, I would imagine these are people the devil's targeted.
pastor greg locke
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, look at the Old Testament.
They did some great atrocities.
I mean, the Jewish people did some unbelievable things.
And by the way, that's what the seven years of tribulation is for.
It's not judgment on the earth for Christianity.
The Bible says it's a time of Jacob's trouble.
So God can regather that remnant back to himself and bring them to repentance.
alex jones
So he's going to force them all the way to the wall until they finally...
pastor greg locke
They did some crazy stuff, some wicked, heinous things.
I mean, Tel Aviv is full of sodomy.
I mean, so we're not broad-stroking and saying that all the Israeli people are godly, wonderful people.
We're saying as a group, as a nation, they are the covenant people of God.
alex jones
Well, they said it 4,000 plus years ago, and that's just another group saying that, but it actually happened.
pastor greg locke
Yeah.
alex jones
And everybody's obsessed with it.
pastor greg locke
Yeah.
alex jones
Which, and the whole world's lining up like they said it would.
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Yeah.
alex jones
So again, why do you think God chose them?
pastor greg locke
Well, I'm going to read you something in the Bible.
Is that all right?
I'm going to show you something right here in the book of Ezekiel.
alex jones
Yeah, this isn't a liberal show.
You can read it from the Bible.
pastor greg locke
Amen, brother.
alex jones
You see the name of Jesus all you want.
pastor greg locke
Absolutely.
So in Ezekiel 37, right, you have this prophetic understanding that Ezekiel is talking about the valley of dry bones.
We use it a lot.
Oh, you know, the churches are dry.
That's a cute application, but it's a sorry interpretation because it's referring to the gathering of Israel.
So from verse 1 down through verse 10, I'm not going to read that.
He says, prophesy to the bones, prophesy to the winds, the four winds at north, south, east, west, because they're going to be coming from all nations to come back to Israel.
But here's what's interesting.
Most people don't recognize that there are two events, one happened in 1945, one happened in 1948, that are predicted 2,525 years before it ever took place.
So listen to this.
So after he talks about this valley of dry bones, it says in verse number 11, then he said unto me, son of man, referring to Ezekiel, these bones, all the bones that he just mentioned in the first 10 verses, these bones are the entire house of Israel.
Behold, they say, here's what Israel is saying, our bones are dried.
Our hope is lost.
We are cut off from our parts.
They said that we have no hope.
We have no land.
We have no people.
We're being punished and persecuted.
Listen to verse 12.
Therefore, the Lord says to this prophet, prophesy and say unto them, okay, to these people that are saying, we're dried up, we have no hope.
Prophesy unto them, thus saith the Lord.
Behold, O my people Israel, I will open your graves and I will cause you to come out of your graves and I will bring you into the land of Israel.
And when did God open their graves?
When were the people saying, we are nothing but bones, we are nothing but graves, there is no hope.
alex jones
In the World War II.
pastor greg locke
Yeah.
In 1945, God brought them out of their graves supernaturally.
They should have been exterminated completely.
God brought them out of their graves.
People have no idea.
The Holocaust is right there in a verse and a half in the Bible, 1945, 2,500 years before it happened.
And then he says, once I bring you out, 45, then you have 1948, and bring you into the land of Israel.
And you shall know that I am the Lord your God, who have opened your graves and brought you out.
And I shall put my spirit in you, and you will live, and you shall be in your land.
Then shall you know that the Lord has spoken it.
You have the Holocaust and the regathering of the nation of Israel becoming statehood in 1948 in one verse in the Bible.
And yet there are still Christians that say, well, you know, I just don't see God has a plan moving forward for Israel.
The entire Bible is about the plan of God for Israel because without an understanding of Israel, We cannot understand the church because we have been grafted in to an olive tree.
We've been grafted in to God's covenant.
We are only in covenant with God because the people of God broke their covenant and they denied the Messiah.
We're able to now come in while they're being blind.
We can repent.
We can believe the gospel.
We can trust Christ.
And there will come a time that the last of us gets saved and then all of Israel.
alex jones
And in their Jewish interpretation, they say everybody in the world recognizes the Messiah and follows it.
Then the world's recognizing it and they're denying it.
pastor greg locke
Yeah, absolutely.
And they're still in denial, but God said their denial would turn into our acceptance.
And so the blindness of Israel becomes the blessing of the rest of the world.
And we don't understand that theologically because we're not a sovereign God, but Jesus came to his people.
They wanted an earthly kingdom.
They wanted a political kingdom.
Jesus said it's about the kingdom of God, the kingdom of heaven, the kingdoms within you.
They rejected that.
So Jesus put them on a shelf, allowed the Gentiles to move in, you and I that are non-Jewish, allowed the Gentiles to move in.
We are now saved.
We're grafted in.
And here's what the Bible says in Romans chapter 10.
We that have been grafted in have no business disrespecting the original branches and the original tree.
We have to still love them.
We still support them.
And because of that, that's why the Abrahamic covenant comes upon us.
People say, well, you know, the Bible says there's Jew, there's Gentile, and the church of God.
And when you get saved, there's no male, there's no female, there's no Jew, there's no Gentile.
Well, listen, when I got saved, I stayed a male, right?
When a woman gets saved, she stays a female.
A black man stays a black man.
A white man stays a white man.
What he's saying is there are Jews and Gentiles, but when we are saved, we are not in a blood relation with Abraham.
We're covered in the blood of Jesus.
And it doesn't matter if you're red or yellow or black or white or Democrat or Republican.
alex jones
So let's talk about Islam.
Obviously, that's the satanic covenant and the satanic counterfeit to try to block it.
So I get really upset with the big churches and the Catholic church saying, oh, it's all Abrahamic ecumenicalism.
No, if you actually read the Quran, it's diametrically opposed, claims it's friendly to Judaism or Christianity.
It's literally at war with it.
People that say there's a lot of right-wingers that hate Israel completely, they act like Islam is their ally.
No, Islam is completely diametric.
So how does Islam tie into the devil's plan?
pastor greg locke
Well, it ties into the devil's plan because this whole thing is about a sibling rivalry.
It's about Ishmael and Isaac, right?
alex jones
So they didn't get the birthright.
pastor greg locke
Exactly.
They didn't get the birthright and they got ticked off.
alex jones
They didn't get the contract.
pastor greg locke
Yeah.
So they didn't get the same.
alex jones
Which is repeated over and over again, just like Cain and Abel.
The Bible repeats this.
It's the many Antichrists.
pastor greg locke
Over and over.
The Antichrist spirit has been around forever until the main one is revealed.
alex jones
So we got Cain and Abel.
Then we get what happened with Abraham.
Explain that.
pastor greg locke
Yeah.
Well, you got Cain and Abel.
I mean, of course, you got sin that enters into the world, you know.
But later, you get Abraham, and he has Ishmael, but then he sits.
alex jones
What's the example of two sons?
One gets the birthright and one doesn't.
pastor greg locke
But Ishmael wasn't the promised son.
You see, God came to Abraham and Sarai, who became Sarah, and said, look, I'm going to give you a son.
She laughed.
Isaac means laughter.
She laughed and said, this is not going to happen.
So what did they do?
The same thing we do as Christians.
They tried to force the promise of God in the flesh.
And so they created an Ishmael.
Yeah.
Created an Ishmael.
And because they forced the promise of God in the flesh, guess what?
4,000 years later, we're still fighting in the Middle East.
alex jones
And the Muslims literally are pissed that they're the bastard son.
pastor greg locke
Absolutely.
That's exactly what they are.
And Galatians says that they are that because there's only one seed, and the seed is not Ishmael.
The seed is Isaac.
A thousand percent.
And it's important for us to understand.
alex jones
So it all goes back to contract over and over again.
pastor greg locke
100%.
God is a covenant-keeping God.
That's why replacement theology is foolish because God's covenants are eternal.
He will never break his covenant with his people, just like when we are saved, he will never break his covenant with us.
He's a promise-keeping God.
100%.
That's why Israel is important.
alex jones
Well, that's why I think it's important to differentiate corrupt Jewish and Israeli leaders and corrupt Jews and then point out the covenant.
That's what empowers the total attack on the contract is that a lot of Christians and people totally defend what anybody hiding behind Israel does.
And that's one of the most powerful things that builds this energy against the Jews in Israel is people not being ready to criticize it.
But the whole Bible, Old and New Testament, is God blessing when the Jews do the right thing and then saying, I'm going to punish you now when I do the wrong thing.
pastor greg locke
Yeah, and he does.
I mean, they had 430 years in Egypt, 70 years in Babylonian captivity.
I mean, it happened.
And God said, I am going to judge you.
And he does in the tribulation.
And that final judgment brings their heart triggered back to the things of God.
So it's like evangelical Christianity, right?
There's people that do stupid stuff, but we can't broad stroke.
We can't say that they didn't do stupid stuff, but we can't say, well, you know, we're just going to hide them and switch them.
alex jones
Well, we can't say that the whole world is focused and centered on this.
As these people in the middle of nowhere said 4,000 years ago, whether you want to, if you don't believe in God, whatever.
The point is, you can say it is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
It's real as we know.
It doesn't matter.
It's here.
This is happening.
pastor greg locke
Oh, it is happening right before our very eyes.
And I mean, Jerusalem is the breadbasket of the world.
If you want to know what's happening in the world, you better look at Israel.
You better look at the Middle East.
We're talking about the size of New Jersey.
243 miles from top to bottom.
The Bible says seven times from Dan to Beersheba.
That's what it means, from north to south.
It's 71 miles wide.
And here's what all the weak, woke Palestinian supporters on the college campuses are saying, from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.
A couple things about that.
Number one, they don't know what river.
They don't know what sea.
They don't even know what that means because what that phrase means is the eradication of Israel.
And Palestinians have always been free.
180,000 of them are paid every day to be bussed into Israeli communities to work.
But the same communities have signs that say no Jews allowed.
And so literally, the Israeli government is paying for the upkeep of people that are saying that they're involved in a genocide and they're being pushed out of their land.
alex jones
Well, expanding on this, though, let's get back to the Rempham thing.
And clearly, the Bible's clear.
There was another tribe sacrificing kids.
Rempham, you know, it says wipe them out.
So, but you pointed out that there were times when Israel was doing Moloch sacrifice.
And some Christians will say, if you ever even bring that up, you're attacking Jews.
No, Israel went back and forth, did bad things, golden calf, all that.
I was saying it's the seal of Solomon.
If you read the different Jewish texts about Solomon, you know, obviously King David's son, there's a question of whether he turned over to evil, he married all these hundreds of wives.
I forget the number.
He created this seal in the magic he was doing to control the demons.
And from the historical thing, wide spectrum, that's what I get from that.
And so it doesn't mean Judaism's being satanic, but obviously, you know, you get somebody like at that level, the wisest man that ever lived, they say, he married a bunch of different wives, investigated all their religions, did all this occult stuff.
I mean, clearly there is a strain of mysticism and magic that's going on in Judaism.
You can call that a falling away.
Christians do that as well.
So from your historical research, what is the star of David?
pastor greg locke
Yeah, well, just like Kabbalah, right?
They try to take certain things, and obviously they bring in a mysticism to Judaism.
And so, yeah, I'm against all that magicianry and the Satanism and the occult New Age nonsense that goes with it.
But what we have to understand is he may have done some of those things.
He married a thousand women.
He actually married 700 of them, 300 were concubines or wannabes, right?
alex jones
Too busy.
pastor greg locke
Yeah, how this guy could be the wisest man in the world and still have a thousand women around him is a theological misunderstanding.
alex jones
I can barely handle one.
pastor greg locke
I heard that, brother.
No wonder he was the richest man in the world.
That's a lot of shoes and purses and mall trips, right?
And so this guy had to be wise and rich, but it's not called the star of Solomon.
It's called the Star of David.
Now, understand that historically, from an archaeological story.
alex jones
When do we get the standpoint?
When did they create the name star?
You could name it star David.
pastor greg locke
You could name it a thousand different things.
alex jones
But its oldest name is the Seal of Solomon.
pastor greg locke
Okay.
Well, David used it archaeologically on his shield.
Solomon had it on his ring.
Yes, I know the Masons have stolen it and used it just like the LGBT people.
You know, they've stolen the rain, right?
So here's what I want people to know that a lot of people don't recognize.
alex jones
No, no, no, you don't do your research.
So from your research, where does it come from?
Well, here's...
pastor greg locke
Here's the very powerful.
Here's the earliest known existence of it.
So there's a place in Israel called Shiloh.
We would call it Shiloh, but it's called Shiloh.
It's where the red heifers are right now.
It's where the Ark of the Covenant stood, you know, for 369 years in the tabernacle before it was moved to the temple in Jerusalem.
The earliest mosaic with a red star of David on it was found next to that area archaeologically.
So I'm not saying that that original symbol is 3,300 years old as was the tabernacle, but it's interesting that it was found in the most spiritually significant place in the history of the Bible other than now modern-day Jerusalem.
So that's a 3,300-year-old star of David, whatever you want to call it.
Secondarily, in Mark chapter 1, Jesus, he went to a synagogue that I've stood in many times that's just a few yards from Peter's house where he healed his mother-in-law.
In Mark 1, Jesus took his new disciples there and cast out the first demon in a synagogue.
You can stand in that synagogue.
So we're talking 2,000 years ago.
There is a star of David encrested two times, actually, in that synagogue.
So we know it's at least 2,000 years old as far as a religious symbol.
So maybe or maybe not did Solomon do some Yankee stuff.
He did some crazy stuff.
There's no doubt.
He may have used it in black magic.
But I think the people now, you know, from what, 1887, when the Jews are like, you know, we kind of really like this.
And then 1948, they actually put it on their flag.
alex jones
I agree with that totally.
And so absolutely.
Solomon's a big mystery.
So what I'm saying is that obviously it's a beautiful symbol.
And it's just two pyramids in two intersecting triangles.
So it's a symbol of balance and unity.
And, you know, like the cross is a powerful symbol.
pastor greg locke
And you can make the cross bad.
People do it.
Flip it upside down, right?
And so I don't think.
alex jones
Well, no, I totally agree because what happens is I've done shows where I go, look, if you do this symbol, some Satanists do it.
But for UT, it's the intention of a symbol.
That just means hook them horns.
Or in Italy, it's the sign of warding off the devil you do it.
And then, of course, people grab the clip and go, look, Jones just did this.
He's a Satanist.
Even though I just explained it.
When I do it, it's to show you what the symbol means.
And I totally agree with that.
pastor greg locke
I'm trying to say, okay, sometimes.
And they're like, oh, look, he's in the Illuminati.
And so we had a lot of people.
alex jones
Well, I've said like, when they do this, you know, they go, oh, look, he just did that.
Yeah.
Oh, look, he did this.
No, I'm explaining something to somebody.
pastor greg locke
Yeah.
But I do think it's interesting that, you know, because the devil doesn't create, he imitates.
And so now what is his biggest symbol in Satanism?
It's a pentagram.
It's a star, right?
And so I think he's trying to pervert and distort something to make this Jewish.
alex jones
That's why I brought up the rim, rim, frame, or whatever it is.
I looked that up.
That was another tribe doing it.
It was actually a star.
pastor greg locke
It was a giant tribe.
They were like the Anakins and they were like the Zooks.
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Absolutely.
alex jones
But it doesn't mean the symbol of a star is bad on our flag.
It's the intention.
We'll be right back.
Stay with us in two minutes.
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pastor greg locke
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pastor greg locke
A couple of weeks ago, she said, honey, I think we need to order this.
I've been looking into it, researching it.
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I want to talk some about Trump and you're on his commission and all of that in the 50 minutes we have left here, 52 minutes, Pastor.
But I want to go back now to just anything else you want to hit, any other points you want to get on record.
And you coming here today to try to really set the record straight.
I appreciate that.
pastor greg locke
Yeah, absolutely.
I would like to, if we're going to move in transition, I would like to just read a passage that I think is very valuable because I've heard you ask a few times, you know, why the Jewish people?
Why the Jewish people?
So we can literally talk about this for so many hours.
And have you been to Israel?
Have you had the privilege of going to Israel?
alex jones
I've been invited quite a bit.
I just been so busy.
pastor greg locke
I want to get you there.
alex jones
It's one of my bucket lists.
pastor greg locke
It will change your life.
It'll give you a new biblical perspective.
And it is literally, you hear people, oh, you walk in the Bible.
No, no, no.
I'm telling you, you're living it.
You feel it.
alex jones
Everybody knows it says they feel this energy.
pastor greg locke
Oh, there's an energy there that is just unbelievable.
It's this blue stuff on steroids, right?
I'm telling you, there is a prophetic energy when you go.
But I want to say this, and then we can transition.
This is yours.
alex jones
Whatever you want.
pastor greg locke
Go ahead.
And so in the book of Romans, right, in chapter 11, Paul is, of course, talking about the now and the future of Israel.
But this is very important that we understand this from a church perspective about the Jewish people.
So Romans chapter 11, verse 25, he says, I would not, brethren, that you be ignorant of this mystery.
Now, the word mystery is important because we don't understand all of this.
This is a mystery.
We're not going to fix it on Infowars, right, in a two-hour show.
It is a mystery, but here it is.
Lest that you should be wise in your own conceit.
All right.
So he said, don't get all, you know, proud and arrogant because you're a Christian and the Jews are still rejecting the Messiah.
Here's why.
Blindness in part has happened to Israel.
For how long?
Until the fullness of the Gentiles become in.
There will come a moment, the last Gentile gets born again, and here's what will happen, verse 26.
And so all of Israel, all means all in the Bible, all Israel shall be saved as it is written.
There shall come out of Zion a deliverer and shall turn away the ungodliness from the people of Jacob.
For this is my covenant unto them, says the Lord, when I shall take away their sin.
So God is going to redeem his people.
But here's the beauty of it.
As concerning the gospel, right, they are enemies for your sakes.
People are like, how could you hang around with them Jews?
They're enemies because we preach a gospel different than them.
Yeah, he said right here, as far as the gospel is concerned, they're enemies because we theologically do not mesh because Jesus is the one and only way.
But as touching the election, they are beloved for the Father's sake.
alex jones
So he predicts everything in the next 2,000 years that are perfectly.
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Yeah.
pastor greg locke
He said, yeah, there's going to be wars between Israel and Christians because of our theological standpoint because from a gospel standpoint, they don't believe what we believe.
But he says, as far as the election, the covenant people of God, he said, God shall take away their sins, for they are beloved for the Father's sake.
alex jones
Well, it's like somebody that the prodigal son, he has the deed.
He's rejected it.
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Yes.
alex jones
So just because he's a prodigal son, it's all repeated.
pastor greg locke
God's going to bring him back.
alex jones
He'll have the deed.
pastor greg locke
100%.
And then he says the gifts and calling God are without repentance.
What does that mean?
It means God don't change his mind.
Evangelicals may.
God does not break his covenants.
Man will break his promise, but Titus 1, 2 says, God cannot lie.
If God made a covenant with the Israeli people, there will come a day he will fulfill that covenant no matter how wicked they've been.
Why?
Because God is a loving, patient, merciful God, and what he does with them is a picture, an example of how he works with us.
alex jones
Back to my question, I've asked it a couple of times, and I'm not saying you dodged it, but it's a mystery.
Why did God choose Jews for this testament?
pastor greg locke
Well, I think because you're talking about the weak, smallest group of people on the planet, and God could have chosen a great, large, huge army, but who did he use to defeat Goliath?
He didn't use the army.
He used a kid, right?
Just use a 17-year-old kid.
So God's saying and choosing the Jewish people, I do this as an example, that I don't need a lot.
I'm going to get glory because there's no way these people could still be alive if it wasn't for the sovereign plan of God.
Does that make sense?
If God were not intervening on their behalf, which he's done and he'll continue.
alex jones
And if he chose Alexander the Great or the Romans and say, we did it, no, it's got to be this.
pastor greg locke
It's got to be the smallest, weakest link in the chain.
And then everybody's going to say, well, holy smokes, only God could do this.
Because there's going to come a day that, you know, Iran and Iraq and Turkey and Russia and a northern alliance from Africa, they're all going to go to the Golan Heights.
They're going to turn their tanks on Israel.
And the Bible says God will send an earthquake.
They will be confused.
They'll turn on themselves.
Israel will be saved because Isaiah 54, 17 says, no weapon formed against them shall prosper.
It will never work.
They will never knock Israel off the map.
Jerusalem will never again be fully annihilated and destroyed.
And that's why Psalm 122 says we're to pray for the peace of Jerusalem.
We are never called to pray for the peace of America, Iran, Gaza, anybody else.
We are only called to pray for the peace of Jerusalem.
That's the capital.
So he means by that, all of Israel.
But then he says, those that love your gates, the gates of Jerusalem, those that love your gates will be blessed of the Lord.
alex jones
And even the Muslims know that.
That's why they want to take Jerusalem.
pastor greg locke
Oh, absolutely.
They want it.
Yeah, they think it is theirs because, again, it's a sibling rivalry.
You piggybacked us.
You got the blessing that should have been on us.
But at the end of the day, it's not on them.
It's on the Jews.
alex jones
3,000 plus years ago, the Bible predicts that enmity.
pastor greg locke
Yes, 1,000%.
It predicted that Islam through Ishmael would become a man of war that would be hated of all people.
And here we are.
Here we are.
alex jones
Hated of all people.
pastor greg locke
Hated of all people.
And there's going to be war.
And it's just, it's predicted.
And I'm convinced if you read the Bible, because I can only find one group of people in the history of the world today that are comfortable cutting people's heads off.
I believe that the Roman Catholic Church and Islam are going to create an alliance for a one world religious system at the end of the world.
Absolutely.
And at the very zenith of it will be a hatred of Jewish people.
alex jones
So you obviously got a lot of criticism of the Roman Catholic Church.
pastor greg locke
Oh, yes.
alex jones
And we've seen the last pope, open globalist, this new one.
We're trying to see.
A lot of Catholics are great people, obviously.
So how does the Catholic Church fit in your research?
pastor greg locke
Well, I mean, again, I do think that there are some Catholic Christians, and I think there's a lot of good Catholic people out there.
I do believe that if people are starting to see a lot of the political issues happening, they're going to be like, why is the Catholic Church bending and bowing, right?
And so there is this sect, by the way, of Catholicism that is very anti-Semitic, which is one of the reasons I have a hard time with Candace because she's been so right on a lot of things, but she's so hardened, number one, against the Jews, and number two, for Catholicism.
I'm like, wait a minute, do you not realize your religion is built on two Jews, Mary and Jesus?
The whole religious system is built on Mary and Jesus, two Jewish people.
So if you kick Jews out of the Catholic Church, there goes Mary and there goes Jesus.
alex jones
Well, I mean, I think Candace has a good heart and she makes a lot of really, you know, good points.
And I think when she gets persecuted and kind of targeted by some of the Jewish lobbies, that makes people double down.
And talking about Candace, you've got Macron's wife, who I could just personally say in swimsuits and in photos that are not photoshopped, looks like there's something in the pants.
We've got his husband or whatever it is slapping him in public.
We've got her strutting around, bossing everybody around, looking and acting like a man.
And then Candace Owens will play a club.
And I believe her.
I haven't called Trump to check it.
Trump calls her and says, I'm about to get a deal with Macron on tariffs and stuff and all this other stuff.
Will you just not say that his wife's a man's?
So I guess they're kind of blaming her for it, but it comes out of French journalists and the rest of it.
And it's true that when he's 14 to school, she's the teacher and they have a sexual relationship.
So that's pedophilic right there.
That's confirmed.
And then you've got this thing in a swimsuit.
I mean, look at this.
And, you know, all the rest of it.
And so the fact that Trump would call and I get it, because Macron called him, that shows how scared they are of this.
And that to me is a bigger issue of how scared governments are of independent journalists and people's voices that they're scared of Candace Owens.
Here she is talking about it.
candace owens
When I call that person back, they tell me something that is even stranger.
They say, look, I'm, I, again, am the messenger here.
What I was told from somebody that's pretty high up at the White House is that Emmanuel Macron is holding up negotiations to end the Russian and Ukrainian war.
Unless you stop speaking about his wife.
unidentified
I'm just going, what?
candace owens
What are you saying?
What are we even speaking about?
What do you mean negotiations between Russia and Ukraine?
I'm just like, you know, looking into a story at my house.
I've got a very small team here.
And you're telling me that somehow negotiations are being held up and it needs to be communicated to me.
They got to stop talking about Brigitte.
What are we saying?
And then I'm asking myself in my mind, because I hang up this phone and I am in true shock.
Did Emmanuel Macron pretend to fly into DC under the guise of negotiations, the Russia and Ukraine war, and then instruct someone on his entourage to have an off the books discussion, a little meeting on the side, maybe somebody again, like a Susie Wiles, where he made his truer demands?
Like, hey, this is for the pictures.
Me and Trump were talking about you.
We're going to get it done.
And then what really goes on behind the scenes is like, we're not doing anything until that little podcaster, Candace, agrees to shut her mouth.
What?
This is crazy.
This is absolutely insane.
Okay.
So I say, we end the conversation.
I say, I'm going to sleep on this.
It's a lot to process.
I remember I get into bed and I just turn to my husband and I say, no one will ever believe us.
Just something that just arrived at me very suddenly.
I said, no one will ever believe that this just took place.
And my husband's like, yeah, no.
This is just very, very strange.
And I promised the individual that I would pray on it, that I would think further about the situation.
What are the implications here?
And I then call him back the next day and I say, look, this is pretty weird.
You have to admit, this is pretty weird.
And you're not really giving me any details.
And I kind of want to know who specifically you spoke to because I think it kind of matters.
Is somebody trying to do a side deal while Trump is doing a different deal?
And at that moment, he's honest and he says, no, President Trump was on the phone too.
And I go, oh, are you kidding me?
You didn't tell me this yesterday that there was some sort of a conference call and President Trump is on the line.
You didn't mention it.
I go, did you lie to me yesterday?
Were you trying to pretend that it was like a third party person?
And he says, no, no, no, I didn't lie to you.
I didn't lie to you.
Like I got a phone call and I obviously in the background, Trump communicated something to me.
So he was there when the phone call took place.
And I'm going, what the heck is going on?
Literally, what is happening right now?
alex jones
Now, I totally believe this story.
And of course, Trump's not going to deny it.
But here's why I know this.
I'm not writing myself in the story here.
This is what I know.
The left, the globalist are very smart in ways, but they're also giving over to delusions.
So they think whoever they think is the top talk show host, whether it's Joe Rogan, whoever, Caniso, and Stucker Carlson, because Netanyahu, months ago, when he wanted this war to go, was calling Tucker.
They were in big fights.
Tucker told me about privately later came out in the news.
They'll pick one person and think if we can get them to do what we want, suddenly this will all go away.
So the fact that Macron's got Trump calling up and Trump's people calling up saying, stop saying this, they've been arresting journalists and all the rest of it in France saying it.
If it's not true, why are you running away from it?
But a larger issue is the public has no trust of the system.
And, you know, Michelle Obama, all this stuff.
And so at the end of the day, I don't know what the truth is, but I know Macron's wife looks like a man and Michelle Obama looks like a man.
And whether we're right or not, it's free speech.
We can say it.
But what do you make of this?
pastor greg locke
Well, I mean, in the last days, we know that this stuff's going to begin to happen, all this transgenderism, all.
alex jones
It says in the Old and New Testament.
As in the days of Noah, but also it says women will become men, men, women, children over their parents.
pastor greg locke
What's the verses?
Men will burn in their lusts one towards another, so will women.
And the Bible says that men will begin to have sexual relations with men.
And we're just seeing it happen.
You know, our ministry really exploded in, I think, 2016 when the Supreme Court made a wrong decision to allow same-sex marriage.
And I just came out and did a video one day called I'm Coming Out of the Closet.
We had like 5,000 followers on Facebook, and that thing went super viral.
And then from there, you know, people couldn't figure out what bathroom to use at Target.
And so it seemed like everything controversial with the moral decay of America that I would come against, our platform just grew and grew and grew and grew and grew and grew and grew.
And I find it interesting that pastors just don't want to talk about these things.
That's why I appreciate you.
You're not a pastor, but you're willing to have a pastor on.
We have so many cowardly pastors.
I think it's the biggest problem in America, whether it's the Israeli issue, whether it's transgenderism, whether it's any of the political issues, whether it's Planned Parenthood, pastors won't speak.
alex jones
And the left knows that if people are scared of controversy, they can make saying two men can't have a baby controversial or that carbon dioxide is poisonous when it makes plants live.
And so once you give into one political correct thing, they can move the goalpost until you do nothing.
pastor greg locke
Until you say absolutely nothing.
And so I'm going to say what the word of God says and let the chips fall where they may because I play to an audience of one and that's Jesus.
As long as God's happy and my wife's still smiling when I get done with the sermon, I don't care what the rest of the church says, right?
We have eight exits in our church.
They can walk out any of them that they want to.
I'm not trying to build a crowd.
alex jones
People always ask who I work for.
My audience is God.
And I say what I believe is true.
I'm wrong sometimes, but we're all right.
Exactly.
My audience is God.
And I just say what I think is true.
pastor greg locke
Amen.
alex jones
It's empowering to do that.
Because if you start thinking about what you're going to say, people ask, how can I talk so much?
How can I, because I'm just saying what I think.
I'm not putting the governor.
What's going to happen if I say this?
pastor greg locke
Yeah, absolutely.
alex jones
Imagine thinking like that?
pastor greg locke
Yeah, think about John the Baptist, right?
Everybody knows John the Baptist, but nobody knows the name of the guy that cut his head off.
You know why?
Because the people trying to silence will never be remembered by history.
That executioner that went down there and took it, you know?
Aaron, you know, he said, do it.
But whoever that executioner was, nobody will ever know his name.
Nobody will ever know his name, but everybody knows John the Baptist.
alex jones
And didn't John the Baptist predict what was going to happen to Herod?
pastor greg locke
Absolutely.
And so everybody trying to silence the truth will never be remembered, but we will never be forgotten.
We'll leave a heritage to our children's children.
Because what shows I appeared on, I don't care if my kids remember that, how big our church is, how many movies we made.
When I die, I want my kids to say, my dad was not a coward.
My dad stood for truth at the expense of people shooting our house up this past October.
alex jones
Well, I didn't know about that.
What happened?
pastor greg locke
Yeah, we had a madman come to our house with a semi-automatic weapon, 63 rounds in three seconds.
alex jones
Wow, I'm sorry I'm ignorant.
God, I guess as you're a Christian pastor, it didn't get as much news.
Imagine what happened to a liberal or a senator.
Pull it up.
I'm sure it's there.
Oh, it's time in Pastor Greg Lock's home shot up, shooting, pull it up.
What happened?
I apologize.
pastor greg locke
Here's what's crazy.
We were coming back from a small little mini vacation.
My wife felt like we needed to slow down for some reason.
Long story short, the security footage showed my wife pulling into the driveway one minute after the madman jumped in his truck and drove away, shot up the house, shot up my truck, shot the windows out of my vehicle.
And two of the bullets went through my daughter's bedroom, went into her headboard, and the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation pulled them out of her pillow.
If it would have been there just a minute earlier, it would have been a much different story.
alex jones
Well, I didn't know about this, so tell the whole story and who he was.
There it is, Pastor's home, shot at my madman hit with at least 30 bullets.
pastor greg locke
It was actually 60.
alex jones
WDBJ CBS.
pastor greg locke
Yeah, and so he's actually in jail.
It was a young gangbanger guy.
He had had a kind of a string of some violent things, and so he definitely picked the wrong house because all I did was put it out on Instagram.
alex jones
Why do you think he did it?
Just demonic?
pastor greg locke
Didn't buy the nickname.
Absolutely demonic.
Absolutely demonic.
Because I think the more we stand, we've had people burn entire trailers of Bibles on Easter Sunday in our parking lot trying to get people out.
We've had people try to.
alex jones
Well, that's when you know you're doing the right thing.
It's when the devil comes after you.
So just tell the story.
I didn't know this.
pastor greg locke
Yeah.
So, I mean, we've had, you know, we have to have high security, high levels of security.
You certainly understand that at our church.
We've had people rush the stage.
We get, you know, death threats, bomb threats, the whole deal.
Why?
It's not because I'm just some arrogant jerk that wants to be abrasive.
It's because I'm speaking the truth.
And when you speak the truth, people hate you when they hate the truth.
alex jones
Well, Christ said, you know, if you follow me, you're going to get persecuted.
unidentified
Yeah.
pastor greg locke
Oh, 100%.
And you expect it.
And so preachers are like, well, you know, we never have those problems in our church.
And I'm like, well, I'm sorry you don't have enough authority to get demons stirred up.
alex jones
Well, they came after Jesus.
pastor greg locke
Absolutely.
alex jones
He said they persecuted me.
They're going to persecute you.
pastor greg locke
They killed the man for what he said and what he did.
And so if you're not saying anything, no wonder.
Jesus said, beware when all men speak well of you.
If everybody likes what you say on social media, you should probably get off.
alex jones
So going back, I didn't know about this.
Why did he do this?
pastor greg locke
You know what?
We really don't have an entire motive.
It's some little gangbanger situation against our family.
unidentified
And so it's just, it's the craziest thing.
pastor greg locke
Yeah, absolutely.
But again, one minute later, and it would have been a very different story.
alex jones
So your wife had this feeling, like, let's go to the gas station.
pastor greg locke
I was actually following her in a vehicle, and I called, I said, honey, I'm going to stop and get some gas.
But you are driving like super slow compared to how you normally drive.
She said, I just feel like the Holy Spirit wants me to get in the slow lane and just slow down.
And I'm like, why?
And she's like, I don't know.
So I got gas.
I caught up to her.
alex jones
So literally a demon was sitting in there.
You'd have pulled in right on time that have killed you.
pastor greg locke
It would have killed every one of us.
And she was there with my kids and my grandkid, three of the kids.
alex jones
That's the thing.
The devil, you're the expert on this, but he has his system.
God has his.
pastor greg locke
That's exactly right.
And there is a devil, but he'll only go as far as God will let him go.
And God will protect his people if you'll stand 100%.
alex jones
Well, I came up with this, and tell me if you think I'm wrong, but everybody says the devil's greatest trick was he doesn't exist.
I think that's his second trick.
I think convincing us good doesn't exist and we don't have hope and there's not good in the universe.
I think that's his biggest trick.
pastor greg locke
Sure, if he can take away your hope, then you have nothing left.
No wonder we have high rates of suicide.
alex jones
So that is the devil's biggest trick.
pastor greg locke
Oh, absolutely.
If he can take away your hope, that's why Jesus is our hope.
And the reason the devil wants to take away hope, because that's taking Jesus out of the conversation.
And if the devil can mask Jesus, he's giving us absolutely no hope because there's only one hope.
And it's not Donald Trump.
It's not anyone else.
It's not the Israeli people.
It's not Alex Jones or Greg Locke.
The only hope for the world is the gospel of Jesus.
alex jones
Well, I've had a lot of prophetic stuff in my life, and I never really talked about it until recently, but God told me to do it.
But since I was a little kid, God would say, watch this, and things would happen right there.
God's like, I'm real.
But I literally got woken up like A year ago, and I don't even need God to prove it, but God will be like, turn your phone on.
It's this exact time.
It happens all the time.
It's always the exact time.
And God goes, The devil's biggest trick is that good doesn't exist.
And kind of hold it.
And I was like, go tell people that.
It's like I literally get told, say this.
pastor greg locke
Yeah, well, the goodness of God exists because Romans 2:4 says, the goodness of God leads you to repentance.
So I tell our church, when things aren't good, God still is.
alex jones
So do you ever, like, God just tells you something?
pastor greg locke
Oh, yes, absolutely.
Yeah, absolutely.
alex jones
And how do you know when it's God?
Do you just feel it?
pastor greg locke
You do.
And here's what's funny.
If the Lord tells you to do something or say something or help someone, when you walk away, you'll have that nagging.
Oh, my goodness.
I knew I should have said that, right?
And so it'll always be against the grain.
It'll always make you feel weird.
But I can be in a service.
And you have to understand, I came very Baptist.
I was against deliverance, any type of baptism of the Holy Spirit.
I didn't believe in miracles.
I didn't believe it.
I preached against all of it.
I was as respectfully as John MacArthur as they come, right?
I was super Baptist, capital B. And the Lord said, I'm going to embarrass you out of bad theology.
And God did.
And God began to prophetically download things into my life, and people began to speak into my life.
And now he speaks to me in all various ways, which obviously never contradict the truth.
This is the word of the Lord.
People say, I want to hear the voice of God.
Then read your Bible and God will give it to you.
alex jones
Well, the force is strong with you.
We'll be right back with Pastor Greg Locke.
You can find him at lockmedia.org and Pastor Locke on X. We have a lot more to talk about.
And we'll talk about President Trump and where this world's going straight ahead.
Stay with us.
Pastor Greg Locke is going to be on in the second hour of the war room, 4 p.m. today.
Be sure and watch Owen coming up.
He'll be loaded prepared with all the latest news.
This has been an intriguing discussion.
I'm glad this happened.
I want to get him on the show.
I was probably overly aggressive about the clip I saw, but I was being mixed in with things I don't agree with.
But then I went way more overboard than he did, so touche on that.
But bigger picture here in the time we have left, 27 minutes, on your spiritual radar and you're on President Trump's National Faith Advisory Board.
There's no doubt Trump is being protected.
We saw what's happened.
We've witnessed it all.
The Holy Spirit tells me Trump's good.
I was one of his earliest backers.
I've been incredibly persecuted for supporting him.
That's always another great sign.
And so I'm like a bomber in World War II.
They didn't have any good radar.
They went where the flak was.
That was where the targets were.
But this is a new Trump.
He's totally committed to what he's doing.
I'm going to criticize things I think are wrong, but he continually ends up being right.
How would you prophetically, what's the Holy Spirit tell you at a cellular spiritual level about Trump and the time we're headed into and what America's facing and just any other big issues you want to get into?
pastor greg locke
I think Trump, you know, I'm not one of these guys that's going to broadstroke it and say, oh, yeah, he's one of the greatest Christians that ever lived.
I do believe he is very hungry for the truth, and that's why he has surrounded himself with a group of men and women around him.
alex jones
And God chooses people throughout the Bible history that a lot of times that weren't even believers.
pastor greg locke
Oh, absolutely.
He chooses.
I mean, he is, as many people have prophesied, the Cyrus of our day, which is very interesting, which Cyrus in that day was able to free the Jewish people.
And I think that's why Israel loves Donald Trump so much.
But he surrounded himself.
He's insulated himself with people that are giving him good wisdom.
And, I mean, there's prayer there.
I've been there many times when there's been prayer.
There's been preaching.
There's been prophecy.
There's literally been just worship in the White House.
And it's beautiful to behold.
And then people get mad, right?
Christians love fighting each other and, you know, killing each other and all this nonsense.
alex jones
Well, we like to act like Pharisees, too.
pastor greg locke
Yeah, yeah.
And they're like, oh, well, you know, we don't like the fact that Paula White heads up the National Faith Advisory Board.
She has been his spiritual confidant, his pastor, for like 25 years.
alex jones
By the way, I never really, I know other big pastors, and this is, he calls her up for years and years and just asks her to pray.
pastor greg locke
Yeah, 25 years.
I mean, when nobody's around.
Yeah.
And she's never asked for a dime.
She never will.
She's nothing like people have portrayed her, much like you and me.
You know, we would meet and sit down.
People would be like, wow, I go to CNN.
They're like, I kind of like this guy, right?
But they would never say that on camera.
And so she's just godly and humble.
And now he's been able to surround himself with people that pray for him on a regular basis.
I mean, he's studying the Bible with folks.
And I get it.
We're not looking for a nation that's run by a pastor, right?
He's a president.
But the fact that the church can't rejoice that we have more faith and more Jesus and more Bible.
alex jones
So-called Republican presidents had never done the march for life.
He was the first to do it.
pastor greg locke
First to do it.
I mean, we ought to rejoice that we're having so much opportunity.
People say, why would you vote for Trump?
You like everything he does?
No, I like the fact that he gives me a platform to do what we do.
alex jones
Well, exactly, just because in between divorces, he's been with women.
Like you said, King David had his best friend killed for his wife.
pastor greg locke
Yeah, he sure did.
alex jones
But he was a man for God's own heart who repented.
pastor greg locke
Yeah, he sure did.
alex jones
So Trump didn't do 1-100th what King David did.
pastor greg locke
And everybody wants to bring up his past.
We've all got one, right?
They call me a pastor because my job is to put your past where it belongs behind you, right?
But Trump's past is not his present.
What bothers me about the left is they're still doing nonsense, but they're talking about his past like he's doing it now.
No, I believe Trump had an experience with the Lord that changed him.
And I believe he's now growth.
I think it was before the shooting.
I think the shooting.
It did some of that blue drink.
I mean, spiritually, it gave him a new lease to understand there's a God in heaven that has my very breath in the palm of his hand.
And I better take that serious.
So he became that day a better steward of being a president.
alex jones
It was definitely the 2.0 Trump after that.
I saw it.
I agree with what you said.
The six months before the persecution, he had this.
And then when that happened, when he popped back up, it was biblical.
pastor greg locke
You can't go through that much persecution and not turn yourself inside out and start asking some God questions.
And he's asking the right questions, and he has the right people around him.
And I don't know if he did the first time.
I think he had some people around him the first time.
alex jones
He admits he was.
pastor greg locke
He just wanted some photos.
alex jones
He admits he didn't understand the things.
It was complex.
unidentified
Yeah.
pastor greg locke
But I believe he's hungry.
His heart is like the heart of a child right now when it comes to the things of God.
He's very tender, and I pray he stays that way.
alex jones
The left, the Democrat Party is at all-time lows, breaking records.
Their fundraising is flatlined.
They're getting more radical.
What happens to them?
And we need a two-party system, obviously.
Where do you think that's going?
pastor greg locke
I think it's going in our favor because people are sick of it.
Even The younger generation, they're sick of the woke, weak nonsense.
They're tired of it.
And they're coming back to conservative values.
And so I believe it's this prophetic shift in the atmosphere where people are going to start coming to the right side and say, you know what?
We're tired of people that won't stand.
And we're going to vote them people out.
We're going to vote in the people that have some biblical morals about them.
Because right now, people are like, man, we're just swimming in the weeds.
There's so much ridiculous stuff going on out there.
Not only are we butchering babies, but I mean, we're talking about, we can't figure out what bathroom to use.
It's just, it's nonsense.
People are using, you know, kitty litter boxes.
unidentified
Well, the devil since confusion.
pastor greg locke
Oh, 100% confusion.
God's not the author of it.
1 Corinthians 14, 33, but the devil is.
And there's a lot of confusion.
And I just say, hey, we just break the power of that confusion in the name of Jesus.
alex jones
So there is, you see the news, the numbers, but I see it everywhere.
I had Danesha Souza and I had Nick Fuentes on, and I could see both their perspectives.
And I literally, because I wanted to have both sides, we had X questions and phone calls.
All of them were anti-Israel, every one of them.
So you can look at polls all day, but that millions of people tuned in.
We couldn't get one coherent question that was pro-Israel.
And I wasn't trying to prop Israel up.
I just wanted to be fair.
That is, again, real world example of massive anti-Israel.
And they have nuclear weapons.
So even if you hate Israel and want to blow it away, that would trigger a nuclear war.
So where do you see that going?
pastor greg locke
Well, God's not going to allow it to happen as far as the nation of Israel is concerned.
And I believe that there will be a regime change in Iran.
And I believe we can thank Israel because of that.
And I believe we have to have one from a prophetic, from a pastoral standpoint.
I'm not talking about politics.
From a prophetic standpoint, I believe that regime will fall and we will have a very short window, a space of grace, where the gospel will be able to go into Iran in that area.
And we will see millions of people converted to biblical Christianity.
And we will be able to thank the Jews for giving us the opportunity of preaching the gospel in Iran.
So the regime change is going to come.
alex jones
How do you respond?
I mean, here's a thing that was put out.
I think this is Candace Owens.
And I've been getting calls about this, that there are Israeli groups funding preachers.
And I think they do Hague openly.
And my concern is about AIPAC being involved in our policy, whether it was, you know, I don't want the Chinese government involved in our policy.
Have you ever seen or heard about Israel giving money to preachers to be pro-Israel?
pastor greg locke
I've only heard that through Candace.
They're certainly not giving me any money, and they don't have to give me money to stand for Israel because God's blessing me for standing for Israel.
So whether they are or not, I don't know.
But what we do know is the left is funding a lot of pastors because God's not going to judge these pastors by what they say, but by what they don't say.
I'm not against a lot of the things these guys say.
I'm against what they refuse to say.
They won't stand on the issues.
So are the Jewish people paying pastors to be pro-Israel?
I don't know.
You don't have to pay me for it.
But what I do know is that Soros and the rest of that crowd are paying pastors to be anti-Israel and anti-God and not to say anything about the issues.
But at the end of the day, they can do what they want to, but know this about me.
I am not for sale.
You can forget that.
alex jones
I've got a clip on the list that I was going to play today before you came on and I didn't.
And it's an older clip, but illustrates you.
Remember that fake woman preacher that got up during a prayer event that Trump put on and she said, you're evil, you're hurting migrants, you're being a mean person.
She gets $50-something million dollars a year and is basically aiding the human smuggling of people.
And that's that ecumenicalism of the Rockefeller Foundation, the UN, and the Jesuits literally taking over the church.
And it's not like they're a preacher that's been bought off.
They were fake preachers from the beginning.
That's a big, and you're right.
The real liberation theology, the anti-white stuff, we know that's the massive funding going on.
pastor greg locke
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, they are promoting that from their pulpits, but they are being paid to do that.
There is no doubt.
It's a wicked agenda.
alex jones
So how do you counter that?
pastor greg locke
Well, I think we counter it just by standing on the truth of the gospel, right?
We're not going to be for sale.
We're not going to, I tell people, back up, pack up, slack up, or shut up.
And so we're just going to preach the truth and the purity of the truth of Jesus is going to clean some of that out.
I think one of the greatest things that's going to happen are people leave these liberal, left-leaning churches, and they get in a red-hot church where the Holy Spirit is working, where miracles are happening, where deliverance is taking place, and where lives are being changed.
If you go to a church that will not stand up for the truth and they refuse to talk against abortion and against LGBT, listen, you got to get out.
You got to quit trying to say, well, I'm just going to change it from the inside out.
You've been saying that for 20 years and you've raised your kids in a dead church.
Get out and find a man of God that'll stand up and prophetically say, this is what the Bible says, and they won't back down.
God will bless that.
He'll just bless that.
alex jones
Guys, for some reason, I can't find that clip I sent you this morning.
I think it's on the list.
It's that, what's her name?
The woman that looks like she's a...
She looks like a corpse.
And she gets up and says, how dare you be mean to the migrants?
And then she's on the payroll helping support of smuggling.
And of course, we already know that, but they use our emotion and all this when they're bringing in these people to suck off of them, to use them as a permanent underclass, as a new voting class.
And then they use this fake Christian thing about, oh, be nice to people.
And the Vatican does that too, and the last Pope.
But then they don't take any of these illegal aliens in Vatican City.
pastor greg locke
No, not at all.
They got big walls, too.
They get all mad about building walls.
Well, God built the wall around heaven, and there's only certain people going to get in, and that's those that are saved by the grace of God.
alex jones
Well, the Democrats all have their own private walls of security.
It's like Minnesota, Minneapolis, when they defunded the police and hired millions of dollars of private security.
Here's clip nine: Bishop Marion Edgar, Episcopal Migration Ministries, $53 million a year from government program, just one year.
And again, she didn't disclose that when she went up there.
This is ridiculous.
Here it is.
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Remember her, Bishop Marianne Buddy, who gave a sermon at the Washington National Cathedral the day after the inauguration and in her prayer urged President Trump to, quote, have mercy on various groups, specifically illegal migrants.
Well, it turns out That Bishop Marianne Buddy's Episcopal Migration Ministries, EMM, during the Biden administration received $53 million from government programs for immigrant resettlement.
And that is just 2023.
The 2024 numbers haven't even been released yet.
So my guess is she probably received back-to-back payments.
And now it all makes sense why she said this in her sermon.
I ask you to have mercy, Mr. President, on those in our communities whose children fear that their parents will be taken away.
She wasn't praying for them.
She was praying for her.
Bank account.
You always have to follow the money.
alex jones
Christ warns us over and over again about servants of the devil posing as leaders.
It's so obvious.
And you've got, even where you're at in Tennessee and Chattanooga, you know, this big Democrat preacher on TV whose wife gets all the NGO money saying, kill Elon Musk.
He's stealing your social security, which is a total lie.
He's being indicted.
I mean, look at these people.
They know what they're doing.
And I'd rather in Austin, the First Methodist Church, all this stuff.
Rainbow flags, total.
I mean, this is Satan taking over a microcosm of the Third Temple.
pastor greg locke
Yeah, and he's using the pulpits to do it because the Bible says the devil clearly can be transformed into an angel of light.
So we're looking for the devil under the bushes.
You better look in the pulpits because these people that claim to be men and women of God are not speaking the truth.
alex jones
And it's so simple.
The devil, those people are trying to come to God, trying to find it, trying to have fellowship.
His main attack is going to be the church and not just the Christian church.
He's going to try to take over the Jews and all the groups.
pastor greg locke
All of it.
Every bit of it.
Anything that has anything to do with the Bible and the history of it, he is going to try to denigrate it and destroy it.
But it's not going to work in the end.
alex jones
I know no man know at the time.
It comes like a thief of the night in Christ.
Anybody, any man tells you, beware of them, basically paraphrasing it.
But just from your own research, where are we, I know you don't know, but just gut level, where are we on the timeline for end times and all this?
pastor greg locke
You know, like the sons of Issachar, they understood the signs of the time.
So we don't know when he's going to come, but we have enough spiritual sense to not be ignorant of what is happening.
alex jones
AI, royal government, cashless society.
pastor greg locke
Every bit of that is here right this moment.
AI is going to be so used as the B system, the cashless society.
All of it.
All of it.
alex jones
A false omnipresence.
pastor greg locke
A false omnipresence.
And the Antichrist is going to use it.
People are going to fall for it.
They're going to be duped.
alex jones
And his image will be seen everywhere in the world.
That's television.
pastor greg locke
Just like we talked about those witnesses that get killed.
They're seen all over the world being killed.
Everybody sends gifts.
Oh, hip, hip, hurrah.
These fiery preachers are dead.
Three days later, God resurrects them.
And then everybody's like, holy smokes, what do we have going on here?
Because God is going to use their system against them because that's what makes him sovereign.
God is killed.
alex jones
And everything God does is against himself.
Just like Trump gets shot, goes down, pops back up.
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Yeah.
pastor greg locke
It's going to happen.
I mean, God's plan is going to, the devil cannot stop what God has set in motion.
He can't.
In your life, my life, or mine.
alex jones
Give us a little timeline, but the Antichrist also gets a mortal wound and pops back up.
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He does.
pastor greg locke
He's going to get shot in the head, and he's going to pop back up.
And then at that point, everybody's going to be like, wow, this guy does have some power.
alex jones
What about the argument they could say that's Trump, which I don't think he's the Antichrist?
pastor greg locke
He's not.
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I don't feel like it's not.
pastor greg locke
I don't feel he fits geographically, racially, or in any other way.
Absolutely not.
Just because he's not.
alex jones
Because the devil creates counterfeits, though.
pastor greg locke
Oh, yeah.
alex jones
So just a brief, we're almost out of time.
You're going to be on Owen's show coming up.
But what, I mean, in general, just a quick synopsis, how Revelation unfolds.
pastor greg locke
All right.
Revelation will unfold when here we are in the end times, the beginning of sorrows, not the sorrows, but the beginning of sorrows, Matthew chapter 24.
and regardless of what- Yeah, regardless of when people believe, you know, pre-rapture, post-rapture, this, that, and the other, that doesn't really matter because the whole theme of the Bible is make sure you are ready.
Make sure you know Christ.
Make sure you have the Holy Ghost and then you are ready.
So when he's going to come doesn't matter.
We know that when he comes again, the Bible says he'll sit down on the Mount of Olives.
It'll split north and south.
He'll walk through the Kidron Valley.
He'll go right through the eastern gate that the Ottomans bricked up in, what, 1587, because the Muslims said, you know, we don't want this prophecy to be fulfilled.
No holy man's going to walk through a cemetery.
Well, sorry to say, the last enemy that will be destroyed is death, and Jesus is going to walk right over death, and he's going to bring life to the entire world.
Now, there's going to be a time that things get bad.
There's going to be a remnant of Israel that is left, and there's going to be destruction.
There's going to be wars.
There's going to be rumors of wars, earthquakes, sickness, pestilence.
alex jones
And the two witnesses, how do they come in?
pastor greg locke
Yeah, they will come in halfway through the tribulation in three and a half years.
And then the last three and a half years is called the Great Tribulation.
And the Bible says, except those days are shortened, nobody's going to survive it.
If it went one day longer, everybody would die.
Yeah, the whole deal.
alex jones
So the witnesses are fascinating.
So what happens?
pastor greg locke
Yeah, well, you know, everybody thinks, is the world going to be destroyed through nuclear weapons?
You know, God spoke the world into existence.
He's going to speak the world out of existence.
You know, the Bible says in 1 and 2 Peter that the elements shall melt with a fervent heat.
I believe that Jesus will speak the word and everybody's like, save the world, save the world.
There's no need because God's going to burn it up.
He's going to create a new heaven and a new earth.
alex jones
And he rolls it up like a scroll.
pastor greg locke
Yeah, he's going to create a new Jerusalem, right?
From Jerusalem is going to come down out of the sky and we're going to rule and reign with Christ for a thousand years and then forever in eternity.
And so the idea of an Antichrist and a beast system and all this, it's scary until you recognize that God wins in the end.
It's like God says, checkmate devil, you will not win.
You'll take some people with you, but you will not win.
I am going to reign supreme and victorious.
And so are we because he is.
alex jones
So how does Armageddon come together?
pastor greg locke
Armageddon will come in at the end of those end times, at the end of the tribulation period.
Napoleon, when he saw the Megado Valley, he said, this is the greatest battlefield on the planet.
Having no idea prophetically what he was speaking because the Battle of Armageddon will take place there.
Jesus will return.
Revelation chapter 19, the word of God will come out of his mouth and he will obliterate the enemy.
alex jones
So is that Megiddo?
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Yep.
pastor greg locke
Yeah, it's a beautiful place to see.
And it is a battlefield, a crescent battlefield.
alex jones
Describe it.
Why did Napoleon say it was such a great battlefield?
pastor greg locke
Well, when he saw it, because the way it's situated in the mountains, there's a valley, and there's really one way in, but then there's really no way out.
So those groups, those nations are going to come down into that valley.
Jesus is going to show up and annihilate him.
alex jones
It says it's a trap.
pastor greg locke
It's a trap.
And God's already set the trap.
You better get on the right side of history, ladies and gentlemen, because God is always right.
alex jones
And when you see, though, the devil and his forces think it's all, or they sell it like, oh, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy, the Rothschild's of a great Israel.
And so they think they're like, they're actually fulfilling it, but they think they're going to win.
pastor greg locke
Oh, yeah.
They are fulfilling it.
It is a self-fulfilling prophecy because no word that is spoken out of the mouth of the Holy Spirit is going to fall to the ground.
Isaiah 55 says, God's word will not return void.
It will accomplish what he sends it to do.
And even Spurgeon said, there is a devil, but he's God's devil.
He's a dog on a leash that can do only what God says he can do.
alex jones
Well, that's what the Satanists always say, the higher level ones, the actual real ones, not their camp followers, is your God's a sadist.
He allowed all this to happen, but God gave us free will.
We're deciding.
And then you can say, well, God already has predetermined it, but because he knows the beginning, the middle, and the end, but he really gave us free will.
It's not that he made us do what we did.
He just knows the outcome.
pastor greg locke
Yeah, absolutely.
He did.
You know, the Bible says, you know, it's kind of like this idea, this iPhone I hold in my hand.
The guy that made the iPhone's not in there fixing all the stuff when I push the buttons.
He made the iPhone technologically, but he lives independent of it.
God made the whole world, but he's not in there pushing all the buttons.
He gave it to us.
And we're the ones that put the truck in the ditch, right?
alex jones
He gave it to us.
And the precursor is like Nineveh and Jonah.
Like they could make the decision to get the reprieve.
pastor greg locke
That's exactly right.
And when we repent, God blesses.
When we don't, retribution comes.
The theme of the Bible, if you summed up everything in the Bible, okay, there's 1,189 chapters in the Bible, 791,328 words.
If you took them all and summarized it in one sentence, here's what the theme of the Bible is.
Judgment may be delayed, but judgment will come.
It will come.
So you better make sure you're right when it comes because it's coming.
alex jones
And the whole universe is judgment.
It's cause and effect.
pastor greg locke
Absolutely.
It's cause and effect.
alex jones
So what is hell?
pastor greg locke
Hell is a literal place.
I believe an actual literal place different from the lake of fire.
Hell and death will be cast into the lake of fire, Revelation 20, 11 through 15.
But hell is a place that people go when they reject Jesus as their Savior.
alex jones
And so hell and death is like the consciousness of evil.
pastor greg locke
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, I believe it's a literal place in the center of the earth now, I believe.
And that's a whole long thing, Luke chapter 16.
But when Jesus went down to the heart of the earth, he led captivity captive.
He closed down paradise, Abraham's bosom.
Isaiah 5, 14, hell enlarged itself.
And now all the middle of the earth is hell.
People are there, but there will come a day that it will come up and it will stand before God because everyone must stand at the great white throne judgment.
And if your name's not found written in the book of life, you're cast into the eternal lake of fire.
alex jones
So at the end of Revelation, God rolls up the universe like a scroll?
pastor greg locke
Yep, rolls it up like a scroll.
alex jones
So this whole thing was just a big war game.
It's not an actual simulation.
It's a real, real world 3D simulation.
pastor greg locke
Absolutely.
alex jones
So what happens to hell once God destroys reality?
pastor greg locke
Well, hell will go into the lake of fire.
Lake of Fire is not on the earth.
I believe it's in the outer spaces somewhere.
I don't know.
The Bible's not plain.
alex jones
To me, it's really absence of God.
pastor greg locke
Yeah, oh, it's unbelievably the absence of God, but it's also the understanding and the acceptance of torment, right?
Future actual torment.
But we can look at hell and we can be afraid.
We can look at all of these things.
But you know, there really is in the Bible good news about hell, and that is you don't have to go because you can be born again.
alex jones
But then some would say, well, that's just a way to scare people.
But then we see that Satan is trying to build hell on earth.
pastor greg locke
Yeah.
I'm not trying to scare people.
I'm trying to prepare people.
And I'm preparing them by telling them the words of Jesus, because that's all I've got to stand on.
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Thank you.
alex jones
I'm not questioning God, but to me, God is so loving and so good.
Why not just erase people and just, they don't exist anymore.
Why stick them in torment forever?
pastor greg locke
Well, you have to understand that, yes, God is love, but God is holy.
If God weren't love, he would still be holy.
Everything about God, even his name, the Holy Spirit, everything about God is holiness.
So I don't think the bigger question is, why would God, you know, send people to hell?
I think the better question is, why would God even let us go to heaven?
Because of his mercy.
Because of his grace.
God never sent anybody to hell.
We'll send ourselves there by rejecting the simple claims of Christianity.
And the claim is, I love you.
alex jones
Well, I know this.
Being around the left and how evil they are, the absence of God with them would be hell.
pastor greg locke
Yeah, well, absolutely.
alex jones
But I mean, so we're eternal creatures, and so we're going to have to either be with God or not.
pastor greg locke
To be absent from the bodies, present with the Lord.
The second I leave this shale, I'm going to be in God's presence.
And I know that affirmatively because of what the Bible teaches.
And I stand on that.
alex jones
All right.
Well, Pastor, people can find you at lockmedia.org, L-O-C-K-E-Media.org.
Pastor Locke on X. Owen Schroyer's coming up.
You get an hour break.
Thanks for coming down from outside Nashville.
You're going to be with Owen.
Where are you covering when you're on with Owen?
pastor greg locke
I'm not even sure.
I'm just going to talk.
Whatever you want me to do, I'll do it.
I'll talk.
There's a lot in that Bible to talk about, my friend.
alex jones
You know, we always hear that they throw Christians out of Israel.
You're saying you go over there and you get a red.
pastor greg locke
I've never been thrown out.
They've given me a permit to preach on the steps of Pentecost.
I'm friends with rabbis over there.
Listen, there's fringe people everywhere.
But by and large, they know that the real Christian community are the only ones that are standing with them and their appreciation level has gone, I mean, exponentially huge since October 7th.
October 7th was a game changer in the eyes of the Jewish people because now they see Christians are the only ones that really stand with us and understand us.
alex jones
That's amazing.
Well, I just hope we can not have World War III quite yet.
I know it's all in God's plan, but I'm kind of, I'm not afraid of dying right now.
I really don't want to have a nuclear war real quick.
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