Alex Jones Show·May 12, 2025·Alex Jones Show: Trump Realigns Global Order, Officially Killing The Globalist System With Massive China Trade Deal! Plus, 47 Lowers Drug Prices By 80% As The MAGA Populist Revolution Accelerates! Meanwhile, DOGE Discovers More Massive Theft By Democrats!·
Alex Jones Show: Trump Realigns Global Order, Officially Killing The Globalist System With Massive China Trade Deal! Plus, 47 Lowers Drug Prices By 80% As The MAGA Populist Revolution Accelerates! Meanwhile, DOGE Discovers More Massive Theft By Democrats!
Alex Jones and Kyle Serafin declare May 12, 2025, the start of the 112th day of the American Republic, celebrating Trump's trade deal that slashed tariffs from 145% to 30% while allegedly lowering drug prices by 80%. They allege the FBI is suppressing 14 terabytes of Epstein data and covering up 300,000 missing children due to bureaucratic inertia. Discussing Google subpoenas and the "whole society censorship framework," they argue that purging senior management will finally stop the alleged globalist cover-up. [Automatically generated summary]
We're entering the 112th day of the return of the American Republic and the West.
All right.
Trump's policies on trade are obviously a lot bigger than trade.
It's about destroying the globalist, totalitarian, unelected, corporate, fascist, predatory system.
He's taken us out of the World Trade Organization, everything but name.
He has returned that incredible power back to the United States when we still had all the cards.
And we couldn't lose unless the American people totally panicked and dumped everything in the stock market.
And the globalists tried to do it, but it didn't work.
And now the stock market's up, what, 6% right now.
But that's not the real indicator of the economy.
That's what they just try to use to manipulate people.
China completely capitulated.
And the corporate media is, oh my God, Trump backed off his tariffs.
Trump totally surrendered.
No, China did what Trump asked them to do eight years ago and tried to do.
And even the Democrats passed trade policy and continued Trump's trade policy.
But the Chinese in Switzerland, Told the Treasury Secretary, and he's on record now, we have the clip coming up.
They said, listen, we already did the deal and you didn't enforce it.
So now there's this 90 days to implement all the finer pieces of it, but it will go through because China is on the verge of total collapse.
You are not going to see the corporate media tell you that.
You would think Trump is the biggest moron on earth.
It'd be like Tom Brady winning his last Super Bowl and the pundits, you know, the commentators say, man, he's a terrible football player.
Yeah, there's the Guardian.
Trump might claim China tariff victory, but this is a capitulation day.
Ah, the opposite of Independence Day.
So China has agreed to get rid of all of its non-monetary tariffs, all the little hidden ones.
And this is a huge victory.
And I explained Trump's policies.
He's explained them.
Kirk Elliott, a great economist, explained it six months ago, long before Trump even got back in, that he comes out with a moderate tariff if they don't agree.
Boom.
It gets bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger, which is weaponization, because they've been weaponized against us.
And then when they back off, he comes back to what he first said.
I mean, that's just simple art of the deal stuff, and he didn't invent that, by the way.
I mean, it's like your kids.
First time you tell them don't do that, next time you go, hey, I'm warning you.
Third time, I'm going to whip your ass.
And, you know, if you're 16 and keep not doing what they say, they just say, hey, get your ass out of the house.
Events that are happening all around you right now and the incredible victories humanity in America is having.
But I want to say something out of the gates because it's very instructive and informative and important.
I notice a massive continued talking point on X that I'm not even looking for.
I just see it because I love reading comments and love seeing clips and articles and memes that people post in response to what I post, what others post.
I just love it.
I'm addicted to it.
It's been hours a day on it.
I can't stand it.
I mean, I can't stand it to not be able to not constantly be looking at it.
I've been on the air 31 years, and for at least 26, 27, I have been saying, I believe populism is promoted when globalism really goes into its operational phase, as they said they would in 2020.
It was all planned out, official UN Treaty 92, Agenda 21. But when they went into Agenda 2030, it was very helpful to have their actual battle plan, kind of a big deal.
And having William F. Jasper on, you know, 50 times about it.
You notice, people say, how does this keep predicting it?
Because it's all right there.
But people take the clips of me predicting things because it's more sensational and cut the front off where I show you where they say it and go, how the hell did he know?
Which is fine with me to get hundreds of millions of views on those clips, but why does no one care about the clip where I actually explain it all?
Because then it's not as cool.
It's like, oh, okay, they told us they'd do it.
Oh, okay.
Why did I know that?
Well, you didn't listen, or you didn't know I existed, or you didn't know these people were saying this.
So, I'm going to say it again.
I've studied how the real world works, how the different systems operate.
The globalists all write big books and white papers and brag about themselves and their plan and how you're too stupid and I'm too stupid to ever organize or figure it out.
And I just didn't think that we were that stupid or that weak or that dumb.
I mean, I knew a lot of people were, but I thought there'd be a large minority, maybe even a majority, that might actually want to be free.
And so you bet your butt, you bet your boots and your ass in the back 40, And everything you got that it's not going to be easy as the Satanist thought to take down human civilization and prosperity.
Now they've killed a lot of people and maimed a lot of people and poisoned a lot of people and we're in a lot of trouble.
But at least we're waking up and standing up and the minute that starts happening we start winning.
So I'm going to say it again.
My goal is To identify and expose the illegitimate, unelected, globalist, New World Order, BlackRock, Bilderberg, Rothschild, Rockefeller, UN, WF, crime syndicate.
And point out their arrogance and their corruption.
And then to mobilize not just populist here, but mobilize populist, pro-human, team humanity individuals around the world.
And right now, the EU is all over the place.
We've got to arrest anybody that criticizes us.
We've got to censor everything.
We've got to come after Trump.
We've got to come after Musk.
We've got to come after Alex Jones.
It's all over the news today.
French government attacking me, everything else.
Because they're lying about us.
No, we're not.
You're not popular.
You're tyrants.
Your people are rising up against you politically.
You're having to arrest your political opposition, cancel elections, everything else.
And so, I am a nationalist, and I'm America first, but because of the globalist system we're in, we need to culturally, through soft power, promote the Western Americana Renaissance system in the Infowar.
And it's very popular, and it's very infectious.
And then that secures our nation, because the globalists won't have seized nations like Canada, Use those things against us, which they're doing.
And we need populist presidents and leaders in that will block those foreign globalist attacks and stand up for the people in our companies and our institutions and take our institutions back.
So that's what's happening.
And so I've never been anti-government.
When the corporate media would call me that in the ADL, Southern Poverty Law Center, Democrats, I would say, I'm pro-constitutional government, limited government, the American system, and I'm anti-occupied globalist government.
And so I am pro-government when it's limited and constitutional.
In fact, I defend it because it's of the people.
It is our country.
And I am anti-illegitimate government and will fight it with every ounce of energy and every drop of blood, sweat and tears, clawing with my fingernails to the last breath in my lungs and the last beat of my heart against them.
We have not taken the government back yet, but we've taken large pieces over it, and we've turned the tide.
And humans are not God, and so we will always have problems, and I'm not promising some utopia here.
What I'm saying is, we're going back to the American system, and we're going to have victory, or we're going to have death as...
Colonel.
Colonel Travis wrote in his final letter to my ancestors in Gonzales with instructions to take care of his son.
And that's what this is, ladies and gentlemen.
This is about victory?
Or this is about death?
And we're going to get plenty of death if these people continue on, as you've seen with the poison shots, the GMO, the chemtrails, the fentanyl, and all the autism and all this garbage.
They just want to be pessimists and lie about what's actually happening.
Do you know what the alternative to Trump being in and doing what he's doing is right now?
Real bad, as most of you know.
Indescribable.
A global corporate policy of making you poor, creating massive crime, dissolving borders, the state coming after your parental rights, literally capturing your children in a eugenics, death cult, transgender, pedo, hellhole.
Yeah, I'll take what Trump's doing any day.
And I told you a month ago, I said Trump's breaking off ties with Netanyahu.
He knows 9-11 and Netanyahu was involved with the Bushes and the neocons carrying out the attack.
Because I might just talk to some people.
I mean, you think I was going to go on air a month ago and say that?
If it wasn't true?
Who do you think watches this show?
Who do you think I talk to?
It's not like I just fell off a turnip truck or something.
I'm the OG.
And I say that to not sit here and crow or blow my horn.
It's to let everybody understand.
If I'm telling you something, about 98% of the time, it's accurate.
Sometimes people change their minds, or different things happen, or somebody who's been trustworthy can give you something that isn't as hardcore as they said.
But what really matters is, at the end of the day, humanity has awoken.
I told the insurance companies that are in bed, basically co-owned with the big pharma, hey, you're going to stop blocking all these thousands of drugs that are on record that are cheap and work great.
He's doing all the right moves there.
But that pales in significance to the trade issue.
But it's all part of the same thing.
Having a leader, a populace that's taking the boot off the people's neck.
And it will definitely save millions of lives.
But the bigger issue is China.
China was set up by the globalists.
The CIA in 47. They did decades of culling and mass murder and reorganization.
And then the deals were made in the 70s by the 80s.
Something bad Reagan did.
Signed those deals to let things start to be transferred overseas.
Then the globalists set up regulations with China where nobody could compete with them.
Gave most favored trading status in the WTO.
Had a national sovereignty and trade policy signed over to them.
All the national security implications.
And even the Democrats, by the 2000s, early 2000s, figured this out and passed tariffs and regulations that never got implemented.
And then Trump finally got some put in, but China kept cheating with non-monetary Tariffs, and of course they're completely monetary, but that's what they're called.
They're hidden.
The AT taxes, you know, all these other regulations, carbon taxes they have in other countries.
There's dozens of them.
And then the Democrats continued Trump's policy, but didn't enforce any of it.
And that's now come out of the talks in Switzerland over the weekend.
The Treasury Secretary has come out and talked about that.
But instead...
Even Fox News is running the headlines.
Oh, Trump backed off.
Ooh, Trump, you know, Trump blinked.
This is exactly what Trump asked for day one and said, you better not retaliate to us retaliating to you.
And they did.
So he actually implemented massive retaliatory tariffs.
To punish them and to force them to the table, which has now happened.
And that was always the plan.
He said that.
We said that.
But they think the public's stupid.
But you're not stupid.
Breaking.
U.S. and China agree to cut tariffs for 90 days.
While they negotiate and get the finer points done.
Major breakthrough.
Here are the details of the China trade deal.
And when you look at it, the tariffs President Trump announced against China on April 2nd are being cut by 24 percentage points for this temporary period while retaining the remaining ad valorem rate of 10% from that announcement, according to a joint statement.
China agreed to the same stipulations, adding that will adopt all necessary administrative measures to suspend or remove the non-tariff countermeasures taken against the United States since April 2nd.
The announcement stated, under the deal, reciprocal trade for both countries.
Would be reduced by 150%.
The U.S. will temporarily lower its tariffs on Chinese goods from 145 to 30, and China will reduce its levels on American products from 125 to 10. Now, 145 to 30 to 125 to 10. Who's got a higher tariff?
We do.
Is 30 bigger than 10?
Who just won that?
Okay, but football team wins by 30 to 10. Who won?
I guess 10 is a higher tariff than 30. China wins.
It's true.
CNN and Fox News are right.
God, Trump really screwed up.
We've got a 30% tariff on them.
They've got a 10% on us.
That is just...
That is...
My goodness.
Because everybody knows that...
10 is bigger than 30. Look at this.
Why did China ignore previous trade obligations?
But since reveals what the Chinese delegation told him.
They go on to say that whereas they'd actually followed the tariff deal with Trump and the Democrats continued it, the Democrats said, just don't worry about it, and Biden said, I'm not going to enforce it.
Of course, Biden didn't really run anything.
The auto pit and the...
Chinese communists paid off.
People in his administration did.
So, Fox's Charles Gasparino, Trump backed off on China tariffs.
They have to now follow through on all this, or Trump will just bring it back, and the media will be like, oh, my God, he whipsawed again.
Because if they don't do it, just like when your kid keeps cheating on their homework or, you know, stealing money out of Ma's purse or the liquor cabinet, you got to go back and beat their ass.
So that's how you do it, and that's why we're getting results.
And Trump's explained all this.
Stocks soar as Trump blows up his trademark tariff policy, the Daily Beast.
Blows it up?
He came out and put a tariff on China when he announced Victory Day from 10 to 30. And he said, I would advise you not to retaliate, and they did.
So now China's agreed to what he said on Victory Day.
That's what you get with Trump.
He says, this is the deal.
It's really good for you.
You've been screwing us.
We could do it a lot worse to actually make it fair, but let's just see you be fair on this.
Okay, you're not.
Screw you.
And now, here we are, a month later, and they've capitulated.
Politico, U.S. popularity collapses worldwide in wake of Trump's return.
They say the Democrats won AOC for the White House.
She's their champion.
Boy, what's that tell you?
We're going to go to break.
Explain more what this means.
And I want to get into the prescription drug issues and play clips of Trump.
And then I want to get into the Democrats just admitting in their own party that they're in free fall and they're panicked and they don't know what to do.
And so they just get more radical, more insane, more out of control.
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Now, let's get back into Trump and this big victory with China, big victory with India.
The list goes on and on.
I mean, it's over 100 countries now that have signed deals or are in the process of signing deals.
And they're doing everything Trump wants because it's all one-sided.
And now Carney's having to say, okay, he's going to work with Trump.
But you can't take over Canada.
See, he's like, I want your country.
You want to join us.
51st state.
You'll be the governor.
He's like, well, you can't do that, but we'll do everything else you said.
Whereas he had all that other rhetoric before that Trump's a tyrant, the Americans want to steal our country.
Trump asked for way, way, way, way, way more than he knows he's going to get.
Show that when they do everything else he really wanted, well, they feel like they did okay.
That is a basic tactic of negotiation.
So we're going from not having any negotiations and being totally sold out by the globalist middleman to the complete opposite, an incredible negotiator with an incredible economic team.
The Democrats now officially know they're no longer the party of the blue-collar workers, which they never really were.
It's a total political realignment, record numbers of Hispanics, record numbers of blacks, the most popular Republican president ever with, quote, minorities.
This is a massive political realignment, an economic realignment.
And it takes all the power away from the UN and the unelected WTO, what Trump's done.
We don't negotiate the WTO anymore.
We do it nation by nation by nation.
It's crazy.
He's got all these hundreds of different ways he does stuff.
And then he goes and negotiates with countries and totally changes the deal.
Yeah, because they offer something even better.
Trump said, a lot of these countries have given me great ideas.
And so we're implementing this or that.
And we're learning what works better.
And we can leave these deals open and come back and change them.
And then they know that if they do the deals with Trump, he will negotiate even more.
Because he wants those countries to do well so that they will be a market for us.
He's a renaissance man.
He's a populist.
He's about rising tides, raising all ships, as JFK said.
He's a hospitality person.
He likes things to be wealthy and successful and vibrant and safe and not completely falling apart.
We'll get to that coming up.
FAA and the total disasters, which he warned and Musk warned is what's going on.
Boeing can't even build in a decade a new Air Force One.
And so Trump gets given one and they go, oh, it's a bribe.
No, it's a bribe if it's not declared.
And you could say, oh, well, the point is, is that that, of course, Boeing can make a jumbo jet.
For somebody else, but when they know it's a government contract, just like these fighter jets, they keep milking it and scamming it, and they're going to be like $8 billion for it, and Trump negotiated it six, seven years ago, down to $1.4 billion, and they can't even deliver one?
And so a Gulf state says here, we're donating it to the U.S. government?
That's how ridiculous this has gotten, and they call that a bribe.
It's like Elon Musk donating Starlink to the air traffic control systems when they go down, or donating them during the fires in the Palisades, or donating them during the hurricane.
Meanwhile, Trump's killed the electric car subsidy and killed the charging station subsidy, which has really hurt Tesla.
Elon's fine with that.
By the way, Tesla stock's up 7% today.
So when you actually study these things piece by piece by piece by piece, it's a load of crap.
But the fact that we have to be donated a similar plane because it's almost, what, 10 years we've been trying to get a new Air Force One?
In addition, yesterday we achieved a total reset with China after productive talks in Geneva.
Both sides now agree to reduce the tariffs imposed after April 2nd to 10% for 90 days as negotiators continue on the larger structural issues.
And I want to tell you that a couple of things.
First of all, that doesn't include the tariffs that are already on, that are our tariffs.
And it doesn't include tariffs on cars, steel, aluminum, things such as that.
Or tariffs that may be imposed on pharmaceuticals, because we want to bring the pharmaceutical businesses back to the United States, and they're already starting to come back now based on tariffs.
This means American patients were effectively subsidizing socialist healthcare systems in Germany, in all parts of the European Union.
They were the toughest of all.
They were nasty.
And I see that.
I see that with trade, too.
European Union...
Is in many ways nastier than China.
Okay?
And we've just started with them.
Oh, they'll come down a lot.
You watch.
We have all the cards.
They treated us very unfairly.
They sell us 13 million cards.
We sell them none.
They sell us their agricultural products.
We sell them virtually none.
They don't take our products.
That gives us all the cards and very unfair.
So they're going to have to pay more for health care and we're going to have to pay less.
Now, let's get into what he did with the executive order on prescription drugs that they've been talking about for decades.
Why do we pay more?
Why do we pay more?
Because we have a political establishment, both Republican and Democrat.
That got together and screwed the people.
And then the drugs we get and that they push are always the newest, dangerous ones that are the highest cost because they make the most money off of it and it fits their agenda to kill us, to depopulate us.
But starting today, the United States will no longer subsidize the health care of foreign countries, which is what we were doing.
We're subsidizing others' health care.
Countries where they...
We paid a small fraction for the same drug that we pay many, many times more for, and will no longer tolerate profiteering and price gouging from Big Pharma.
But again, it was really the countries that forced Big Pharma to do things that, frankly, I'm not sure they really felt comfortable doing.
But they've gotten away with it, these countries.
The European Union has been brutal.
Brutal.
And the drug companies actually told me stories.
It was just brutal how they forced them.
And the European Union is suing all our companies, Apple, Google, Meta.
They're suing all our companies.
They have judges that are European Union-centric.
And they get rewarded $15 billion, $17 billion, $20 billion.
And they use that to run...
Their operation.
Not going to happen any longer, that I can tell you.
I think you're going to see a tremendous cut.
I don't think.
I mean, I know you're going to see it in Medicaid and Medicare.
That cut will be massive because drugs are 50, 60 percent of the cost.
So Medicaid costs are going down and Medicare costs are going down because of what we're doing today.
And there's no, it's not like, oh, gee, well, maybe it won't happen.
It's going to happen because...
The other countries have no choice.
Now, the drug companies are going to have to say, listen, if you don't pay more, we're not going to give you the drug, and they're willing to do that.
So the fact that the Defense Department is getting a gift, free of charge, of a 747 aircraft to replace the 40-year-old Air Force One temporarily is a very public and transparent transaction.
So bothers the crooked Democrats that they insist we pay top dollar for the plane.
Anybody can do that.
The Dems are world-class losers.
Pam Bondi cooks up Brazen's scheme to give Trump a free plane.
This is how pathetic it is.
Boeing now plans to deliver new Air Force One jets in 2027 before Trump leaves office.
They were supposed to have them before he got in eight years ago.
They were charging $6, $7, $8 billion, so Trump negotiated it down to just $1.4 billion.
Have the Defense Department pay for the damn thing.
$400 million.
It's just ridiculous.
Laura Loomer slams Trump over Qatar Jet, calls it staying on the presidency.
I'm so disappointed.
You know, I like Laura a lot, man, but she just doesn't sometimes get it.
And it just goes on and on and on.
So, meanwhile, emblematic of the fact that they can't deliver a jet for a decade, but they can deliver it to everybody else, just not because, again, it's a government contract, and they know they can just string it on forever.
A timeline of chaos at Newark Airport inside the terrifying last two weeks and how we got there.
Now they're talking about suspending most of the flights or just shutting it down altogether.
And most of the airports are rotting messes with 20, 30, 40-year-old technology, old computers.
The computer screen's going out.
Total air traffic control's shutting down.
Whistleblowers going public saying, do not fly into Newark.
And it's emblematic of how Boeing used to be the best plane maker in the world.
They're all falling apart.
They got whistleblowers getting killed left and right.
They try to bring in Elon with his people to update.
Oh my God, it's a fraud.
Don't let him anywhere near it.
What does he know about aviation?
I don't know.
Two years after he has an idea to have a giant biggest rocket in the world land and be grabbed by a robot arm, they do it with the best safety record out there.
Yeah, he should not be anywhere near space and aeronautics.
I mean, what does he know about that?
Newark Liberty Airport suffers third system outage in less than two weeks, impacting hundreds of flights.
Flights could be disrupted across U.S. Transportation Secretary warrants.
It is a disaster.
Just like the U.S. government can't get a new Air Force One.
You know how many miles they put on Air Force One?
It's 41 years old, the plane.
And it constantly has problems.
It's constantly got to land.
He's constantly got to get on a backup plane.
And he's been fussing over this since he first got in eight years ago.
And so another company goes, here, we'll just give it to you.
Like a nerd whose graphing calculator was stolen, accusing the world's richest man of killing the world's poorest children by allegedly gutting USAID's vital programs like vaccines and emergency food aid.
Then Gates announced plans to donate nearly his entire $200 billion fortune by 2045 to help the world's poorest.
Likely still gambling on UN Agenda 2030 when humanity is enslaved by technocrats like himself and his lies won't matter.
No word yet from India, Africa and Pakistan on Gates' devastation to their poorest children due to his polio vaccine.
India's an example of a country where, oh, there's plenty of things that are difficult there.
The health, nutrition, education is improving.
And they're stable enough and generating their own government revenue enough that it's very likely that 20 years from now, people will be dramatically better off.
And it's kind of a laboratory to try things that then, once you prove them out in India, you can take to other places.
However, we are learning more about Gates' deep ties to Jeffrey Epstein, and maybe that is why the depopulationist freak is having a panic attack.
Boris Nikolik, a Harvard-trained immunologist and former Gates Foundation advisor, transitioned from pioneering stem cell and gene editing research to co-founding biotech ventures like Biomatics Capital, which funneled $120 million to CRISPR-focused Adidas medicine.
Backed by Bill Gates and other elites, rounded up, in part, by Jeffrey Epstein.
Nikolic's work only to be tainted by the sick fantasies of the eugenist duo fascinated with biohacking and transhumanism.
Oddly enough, Jeffrey Epstein named Nikolic the backup executor to his $577 million estate.
You see, Epstein had or...
has a maniacal goal to seed the entire human race with his DNA, aligning with known reports about Epstein's interest in eugenics and transhumanism.
such as his discussions about creating a super race with his DNA as reported by the New York Times in 2019.
Epstein also expressed a desire to use his New Mexico ranch as a base to impregnate women with his sperm to create a super race.
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I woke up in a laboratory there one night.
Wow.
These are the things I haven't wanted to talk about because it's frightening.
But there were scientists there, you know, and I woke up one night in a laboratory, paralysed and naked on a table.
These people were doing something else and they don't want anyone knowing about it.
And I came back from there.
I was not okay.
I had severe panic attacks.
I was hospitalised ten times with panic attacks.
And I'd been a very, very healthy, happy girl before I was taken there.
They did something to me and I want to know what they did.
This was further explored by elite trafficker Peter Nygaard as the elites went buck wild on humanity.
Bill Gates shouldn't donate his money.
It should be ripped away from him.
He should be hit with a class-action lawsuit by the polio vaccine victims in the poorest countries on Earth, the farmers neighboring his 275,000 acres of GMO cross-pollinization.
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The same way we lost our independence in energy is the same way we will lose our independence with food if we continue in this direction.
So it's a business.
And when you eat this food, you start getting sick.
And what happens?
You go to Big Pharma for your drugs, for your insulin and the rest of them.
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And what are you doing?
You're putting money in the pocket of the same people who are sponsoring GMO.
Kyle Serafin is the FBI whistleblower of FBI whistleblowers.
And back in March, he was the first to report here that 14 plus terabytes had been given to FBI offices around the country to be investigated.
And it's now, of course, all come out.
And we're going to be getting to the latest Epstein developments and angles and his sources and what's happening.
Here today.
But I first wanted to get his 35,000-foot view, 112 days in the Trump administration on his overall what's good, what's bad, what's troubling, what's encouraging.
And then I said just come in and give us a briefing on all these big things you're investigating and covering as a journalist now and a podcaster hat that he wears and does a great job.
And we'll put his website up on screen for folks.
Here as well as you can find his show and the work he does.
But just first in general, and then I want to look at the Democrats trying to turn the heat up with civil unrest, as I predicted, not hard to predict, into the summer.
They're admitting they want that.
You've got mayors and congresspeople attacking people at ICE facilities, mayors getting arrested.
Clearly, they've moved on for now from the cyber burnings, cyber truck burnings, attacking Tesla into other things, but it's the stated plan of John Podesta and others.
To try to have a civil uprising this summer, which to me sounds like criminally organizing something, but the Democratic Party, so I guess they're still able to do that.
And we keep hearing, we're going to hear indictments for the ocean of things they've done, so we'll obviously talk about that as well.
Most people know who you are, but why don't you, for people that don't, because you'd be better talking about your own bio than I, to kind of encapsulate who you are and your 35,000-foot view.
I knew that I was going to be a private citizen again.
It just turned out it was a little bit more rapidly than I thought.
So when I look at this stuff as a former government employee, I look at it and think, you know, what the hell is our government doing for us?
And are they working on our behalf or are they working on their own behalf?
Are they serving some other interests?
So all of that is to say, When I look at what's going on with Trump right now, and I had kind of a retroflective moment this morning on a Monday, woke up and I thought, based on the same sort of thing that I see in my background as an emergency medical technician, as a guy who was a paramedic and worked on an ambulance, the Trump administration right now is a tourniquet.
It's direct pressure on a bleeding wound.
But it is not the solution in and of itself yet.
That's not currently what's going on.
So, we've got the possibility of solutions coming downrange, but the first thing they had to do was stop the bleeding.
So, the Trump administration ran on a border, and they've done very well, I think, at stifling and putting that clamp down on the border.
They ran on some economic problems, price of gas, price of eggs, etc., etc.
They've done a decent job, I think, of trying to clamp down on some of that.
But there's some really long-term issues, and the one thing that kind of...
Stuck with me, the image of that tourniquet, that cranking down and stopping the bleed before you can go and solve it.
I worked in an emergency room for a couple years.
The first, probably, most awful experience I had sitting in a trauma bay happened in, let's say it was in Tucson.
It was in Tucson, probably in 2011 or 2012.
And I'm sitting in there, and they brought in a guy who almost had his leg cut off.
...
...
Brought him in on a helicopter.
The guy's just pissing blood all across the hallway.
He comes in.
Nobody had a tourniquet.
The guy died on the table.
They were pumping blood into him, and it just kept running out the bottom of his leg, which had an open hole in it.
And in the same way, if you don't stop the bleed first and then go and surgically fix it, all you're going to do is you're going to be...
Dropping all the solution in and the solution has nowhere to go.
It doesn't stay in the body.
It doesn't fix.
So I think that's what I keep seeing with the Trump administration.
Two things have to happen at once.
You have to stop.
You have to clamp down.
You have to tourniquet off all of the issues we had with the Chinese.
And there's some stories that I'd like to hit you with you.
Because I worked in Chinese counterintelligence.
They are the single biggest geopolitical threat, as far as I can tell.
And they have been ignored by quote-unquote them.
We should probably talk about who them and they is because we say things like that.
And we use terms like globalists, but who are those people?
What do they look like?
Where do they work?
They work in our government.
They work in our media.
They work in our private sector.
How do all those things come together?
So I brought you a clip of a guy who I think actually has a really good grasp on that.
But if you don't stop the bleeding first and then do the surgical intervention, and if people don't realize it's going to be really uncomfortable, I mean, if you've ever had a tourniquet on, even in a training environment, you realize that it is incredibly painful.
So clamping down on things like tariffs, it's going to hurt.
It has to have short-term pain for the long-term goal of you get to continue to live.
My basic look is that there are some solutions that have been pretty decent.
There are some things where we've got a lot of work to do.
We've got a ton of work to do in the intelligence community.
I had somebody that I can't name by source, but said inside the IC, there's as many as 80% of the people working inside the intelligence community are working against the Trump motivations of transparency and de-weaponization.
So guys like Ed Martin, who just left the D.C. Attorney's office and is now going over to DOJ, they've got their work cut out for them.
And this is not like a win.
That it's going to be really easy.
I think Americans, particularly on the right, we want to think that if we won an election, it's the same thing as winning the game.
But it's more like winning the coin toss before the game.
It just means you get to choose to receive the ball.
So that's kind of my big, my broader take on it, that there's a lot of game left in this right now.
And I don't think we've necessarily put the people on the field that shows we're even going to win yet.
I remember you and one of the other FBI whistleblowers that you helped us get on the show, O 'Boyle, literally breaking everything days and weeks before it all came out exactly as you said about how Bondi was giving basically old Epstein stuff, but then they were going to raid the New York and get the real ones, and then they did.
And then you broke that it was 14 plus terabytes and that had been distributed out.
And then she later came out and said, yeah, it's thousands of videos, hundreds of kids getting raped by Epstein and others.
I mean, to me, that's a massive development.
I don't see how now we don't see some prosecutions out of that.
But I was talking to you on the phone, I guess, Saturday, and you were still kind of juries out on that.
But I don't know why Bondi would then and Cash Patel would send that out to the offices.
Then there wasn't something going to come out of that.
And I want to get to that later because it ties into O 'Keefe and what he broke last week and how that ties into everything.
Let's actually just kind of talk about it broadly, speaking specifically about the FBI.
And this is, again, a broad sort of take on those things.
If you don't do the groundwork of policy, if you don't put that tourniquet on that I was talking about, of getting rid of the bad actors, whether they be in the intel community, NSA, CIA, DIA, take your pick, right, FBI as well, and the various components that are involved in the rest of the DOJ, if you're not actually handling that business up front, you're in a world of hurt because you can send everything out to the field offices.
But if...
If DOJ is not going to go prosecute, and if the supervisors there are willing to table those things, they're going to pull resources back and say, you know what, we're not really incentivized to do this kind of work right now, so we're not going to handle this.
By the way, child pornography, child exploitation...
You know, all of the sort of victimization of children, that is not a top priority of the FBI.
It hasn't been for a very long time.
It's interesting to see some messaging come out in the last couple days.
They did Operation Restore Justice.
So you saw Dan Bongino, Cash Patel, you saw Pam Bondi say it a little bit, come out and talk about how, you know, we've stopped these child sex traffickers and we've gone and got some of the bad guys and we're doing it in these different spaces.
They do that every year.
That's transactional business for the FBI.
That's what used to be called Operation Cross Country.
So historically, for the last almost 20 years, every single year, the FBI focuses and does something where they go grab like a couple hundred child pornographers and or child sex traffickers.
They go rescue a handful of juveniles anywhere from 50 to 200.
And it's awesome that they do that.
But if every single agent in the FBI decided to get after it and do that exact work every single day of the week for the entire year...
By the way, Kyle, I am happy to start getting to this first because this is obviously incredibly important and you can really speak to it as somebody that's lived it and has been a totally accurate, very respected whistleblower.
It would take an hour just to go over all the stuff that you originally broke, like them targeting traditional Catholics and going after parents that didn't like DEI and transgender brainwashing in Virginia.
That was you and others and so many other things.
And, of course, as a reward, you had the DOJ try to set you up and, you know, put charges on you just like they've done to anybody else that fights tyranny.
Just because I need to, since you're going into it now, I need to get my ducks in a row and have them ready with all the clips and all the information because I had the stack as you gave it to me in the topics first you wanted to hit.
But I want you to remember what you just said and start over with what you were just saying They've got a 96% shutdown of new people coming to the border, better than he did in his first administration.
And I've talked to Border Patrol insiders, they say A-plus on that.
But an F-minus on finding these missing kids and on saving them.
And so that's what's really paradoxical.
How is Trump able to shut the border down and stop most of the new trafficking?
But why can't they produce anything on the other side?
And I know that...
Tom Homan and others are very, very frustrated.
General Flynn's frustrated by this.
You can get into the mechanics of why you're saying that's happening.
And this was the big piece that RFK Jr. was talking about.
So I had guys that were like Aaron Stevenson.
I had Tara Rodas on my program early on.
And they were talking about how, you know, sometimes you live in a place where they don't have Amazon delivery.
And so they have this thing called like Final Mile.
So they go to Central Hub.
They send it all out.
And then the last couple miles is delivered by this third-party organization.
And that's less and less the case now.
But we used to see these...
Final mile.
The United States government was the final mile for child sex traffickers moving kids from out of this country into this country and delivering them to groups that were actually trafficking them.
That is mind-blowing in and of itself.
And then you have this other problem.
So you just mentioned it, so let's just hone in on it.
The mechanics of exporting these people, clamping down on the border, great.
Like I said, I agree with you, A+.
Like, they're down to, like, what, 8,000 or something in February where we lost, like...
The ability to keep bringing these people in, fantastic.
But what about the export nature?
Because the numbers are tracking about the same as Obama for getting them out of here.
So getting rid of the people that were already brought in, that's a big deal, and it needs to be done.
And then the second thing is, where the hell are the children?
And if you're not getting the mechanical, the buy-in of the federal agents on the ground, and they should all be on board with this stuff, but the left has managed to message so strongly that if you are interested in finding child sex traffic kids, Who were dropped off with illegal aliens, then somehow you're going against the heterodoxy right now.
It says you cannot be involved in that.
So we actually have members of the FBI, federal agents, who swore a duty that is not specifically to any particular regime.
They're supposed to actually be allegiance to the Constitution.
They're saying that they don't actually want to go out and do this work.
And they're being allowed off.
That supervisors are saying, hey, no big deal.
If you feel morally repugnant about serving warrants...
And going after people who are here illegally, that's fine with it.
We don't want you to do something that's against your conscience.
And for those that don't know, I remember having the office of police even here like 10 years ago.
He goes, yeah, we're a sanctuary city.
We don't even really prosecute low-level crime because we don't want to scare them away.
But, oh, it's migrants, so we don't even look for kidnapped kids given to sex rings because it's immoral to go investigate migrants because that's being racist.
And it's the same thing in the U.K. with the giant grooming gangs on record.
Oh, well, since they're mainly Pakistanis doing this, we can't look at it.
So it's the same political correctness as this umbrella to protect all this garbage.
What if you had a moral problem with going after grandmothers who were walking around inside the velvet ropes at the U.S. Capitol?
You lost your job.
And I know someone who did.
My friend Steve Friend was working out in Florida for the FBI, said, I don't think I should be on a SWAT raid because I think this is an unlawful use of our power.
And they went, you're gone.
And they took his job from him.
They took his security clearance.
They alleged him to be a threat to the United States government.
So all of this stuff has already been done.
We've already kind of pressure tested.
Well, I think it should be a litmus test then by the DOJ and Kash Patel that if somebody doesn't want to be part of finding missing and exploited children, period, their ass needs to be fired.
I would totally agree with you, and there's some precedent for doing that.
That would be an insubordination charge, and you can get rid of people for being insubordinate if they are disobeying a lawful order.
And so the question is, is there a legal process that they are engaging in?
Are they a representative of the United States government as a, quote-unquote, special agent of the government?
So it doesn't just have to be 1811, which was my old job, you know, criminal investigators.
You can have other people do the investigation.
You could have people that are there to be able to handle.
If you look at a lot of these pictures, by the way, Alex, what you'll see is like an ATF, you know, with police on the back of it and somebody from ICE, somebody from DHS or whatever, standing and they're always facing like a wall or away from the camera.
And then you see the subject or the suspect pointing towards you.
If people look on social media, all the pictures look that way.
These are all staged for PR and messaging.
Which is great.
It's actually tactically really, really dangerous and dumb.
I hope there's someone that's standing nearby that can tackle that illegal if that person decides to break bad and fight the person whose gun is right next to him.
And I had friends reach out and I was like, what the hell are they doing?
Why are they turning their back on what the subject is doing?
You never do that because the rule is once you put somebody in custody, it is your job to physically take possession of them and you're responsible for their condition.
If that person runs while in handcuffs and face plants, you're now liable for that.
You're going to have to write it up and you're also going to have the government...
deal with their medical bill.
So it's sort of crazy to see that as much as we're doing things that are good and the motivations are good, they're also really, really motivated by PR.
And that's what you're seeing there, which is why when I push on social media, when other people are out there pushing on social media, when they're going out and saying, hey, you can do better and we expect you to do better, that actually does hit home with this administration in a way that I don't think the Biden administration cared because we were screaming our heads off.
So Kyle Serafin's here with us for another hour and 35 minutes, but you brought a lot of important big stories in since we got to start moving.
But that is incredible stuff you just said.
And so later when we get into more details on the child trafficking and just the horrible nature of that, the latest on Epstein, all those angles, we'll weld in what you just said now onto the front of that.
So I used to be on the other end of this, and that's what's, I guess, the weirdest part for me.
So I used to be able to serve process to people like Google or...
And if we wanted them to preserve data and then we wanted to serve either a subpoena or what's called a national security letter, and that's a secret subpoena, or a search warrant for content or information, then we would do so.
And then eventually, whenever we let the seal lapse, because we would go, hey, don't let the user be notified.
I don't want Alex Jones to know that I'm in his emails.
So we would ask that to be under seal for a period of time.
At some point in time, either the case would conclude or we would bring out an indictment so you knew about it because you've been arrested.
Then we would go out and we would let this thing lapse and you would get this email notifying you.
So I'm just going to read it.
It says, this is from Google.
It's on their official letterhead.
It says, hello, Google received and responded to a legal process issued by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, my ex-girlfriend, my former employer, compelling the release of information related to your Google account.
A court order previously prohibited, that's the thing I just mentioned, Google from notifying you of the legal process.
We're now permitted to disclose the receipt of legal process.
The agency reference number is as follows, and there's a number there which is a grand jury subpoena.
It says GJ, so that's what we assume for that one.
There's some kind of a subpoena.
There's another piece in there referenced 2023R number.
I don't know exactly what that means, but the odds are that this was served in 2023.
Chaos that I feel when I look at this is that my former agency, and I made a note about what the Stasi was, so a lot of people probably are familiar with that term, but it gets thrown around and bandied around an awful lot.
They were the East German secret police, and they operated for 40 years, and they were responsible for three things in particular.
Domestic surveillance.
That's what the FBI does.
Intelligence gathering, that's a post-9-11 FBI thing in a very big way.
And suppressing dissent, which has been basically a post-Obama-era FBI mandate going after dissent.
So we saw this stuff with the Twitter files.
We saw this stuff happening under Trump's first administration, where he was removed from social media.
Suppressing dissent means we now decide whether or not you're allowed to have all the information you want, and we're going to go after people that have contrary viewpoints.
My backstory, which some people may not actually know.
They've seen me out there and I'm like a jerk on Twitter, which is true.
I'm a little fed up with a lot of people being gentle.
I don't have a lot of patience for it anymore.
And I probably should.
I should ask God for a lot more patience than I have.
But we're going to go back to something.
I told you it was proof that they have no problem lying.
They is, in this case, the DOJ.
We hope that it's just a hangover.
There's a real possibility that you and I are both getting these emails within a few days of each other because they've lapsed on a 90-day seal keeping this thing up.
And since Trump's been in, and since the new DAG has come in, since Cash Patel and Ben Gino are there, that they've said, hey, we're not going to continue keeping this under seal.
The hope is that you're starting to see some transparency.
I know it's not going to be perfect, and I know it's not.
So, we're going to go to the first video clip here.
This is the first thing that I did.
I was still technically catching an FBI paycheck, but they'd already told me that they were discontinuing it.
So, the first video clip is something that, this is when I met James O 'Keefe.
I don't have a positive opinion about James O 'Keefe because I've dealt with him personally and we're not friends.
And I think that he operates improperly a lot of ways.
I think he's also not a great actor.
But more importantly...
Regardless of my personal feelings about the guy, which continued back then, this is from May of 2022, I still feel like as an American, he has a right to go and do reporting however he sees fit, regardless of whether I like it or not.
That's what I signed up to serve.
So if we go to the first video clip here, it's going to be the beginning of what I saw as a reveal of like some really, really egregious lies on behalf of the agency I was working for.
So, this is the beginning of the story for me, okay?
And so nobody knew who that was.
Nobody knew who the person was behind that shield.
They deleted the pixels, and they altered my voice, which you guys could just hear.
The problem was that Project Veritas never was very good at hiding sources.
I knew that I would eventually be exposed.
That was okay.
That was a risk that I took.
It was actually, Alex, between the two of us, it was probably one of the scariest things I've ever done.
I jumped out of planes with the Army when I went to Fort Benning.
I've done combat dive training in Florida when I went and got my bubble when I was working in the Air Force and swam in dark water, you know, like underwater two miles, infill swims.
Terrifying stuff.
Getting hit by sharks and things like that.
This was scarier than any of that.
It was easily the scariest things I've ever done.
And it was one of the few times when I told my wife, I was just like, I need...
All of the prayers right now.
This scares the crap out of me.
And then I had a personal kind of like a negative experience.
I went there and I was stuck in a hotel lobby for 12 hours waiting for James to show up.
Which is pretty rude and not very good.
So like I said, I'll play both sides.
But what I do know is that if you are a person who goes out and wants to do hidden camera stings on people, and I don't like the way that he does some of the journalism.
I call it grinder journalism or it's, you know, it's Tinder journalism where you're going on a date and you're luring people to say stuff to impress people to try to sleep with you.
That's not great.
But you still have a right to do it in America under the First Amendment, as I understand it.
So what I did realize sometime in, let's say, April of 2022, there's a story that we've got from Politico that's in your stack over there.
And the Politico story quoted the Southern District of New York, which we know to be a very soft seat for government prosecution.
They quoted them as saying that something to the effect of there's no reasonable...
So essentially, they said that Project Veritas was not a journalistic organization.
No one would consider what they did.
Politico right there.
So the wild piece about that is, is there's a direct quote from the filings that they did in the Southern District of New York.
And you can see that they highlighted, I highlighted a couple of different pieces.
But the most critical was that they...
They indicated that nobody would consider them journalists, when in fact, the FBI did consider them journalists, which was the nature of what that video was.
I want to do video clip number two, because the FBI was able to unmask that really quickly.
Rather than saying, you know, holy crap, we've decided that a journalist, who we called a journalist under the sensitive investigative investigation techniques...
They basically highlight people that are in the news media.
That would be you.
That would now be me.
Anybody who's in a podcast, who's an influencer, anybody who's a clergy member, anybody who's a politician, they get a little bit more scrutiny because the possibility of the FBI investigating them has more damaging effects on their business and so on.
So they're supposed to be more sensitive about it, which means they conceal the file from everybody else.
They went after...
Project Veritas, and they did just that.
They indicated they were news media, which you guys saw on the screen.
If you do the video clip number two, you can see Project Veritas has unredacted that recently, and we kind of had that exposed.
So I'll let you guys play the video too, so people can see that was in fact me.
Rather than the FBI looking at it and going, hey, we're working with the Southern District of New York, that they're attorneys.
They are also under oath to serve the people and to do things in an honest manner.
Rather than looking and saying, what have we done wrong?
How do we miscommunicate?
And why are they making arguments in court that says somebody is not a member of the media when the FBI says they are?
They turned around and they said, how can we find the person that exposed this document?
There's nothing classified about what I showed there.
There's nothing even particularly sensitive.
That document, which came to me as part of a whistleblower channel, I'd already been removed from the Bureau.
I'd already been pulled from the office.
They also told me that I was no longer an FBI employee and I couldn't tell anybody that.
But I still had contacts as a former employee, obviously, because I was still...
I had my buddies there.
And I went to Jim Jordan's committee with that document.
And I said, this is problematic.
I did so through my attorney.
And to tie this all back in, Alex, I went through the Google email address that we have that the FBI was searching.
So my privileged communications with my attorney, my whistleblower communications with members of Congress, my privileged communications with my wife, and then multiple different other attorneys, because we had lawsuits that were ongoing in the equal opportunity realm.
Whistleblower board where they decide whether or not you actually were a whistleblower.
The joke of it is, though, is that it's done by DOJ, and DOJ is actually running that through the office that they recruit new attorneys.
Nobody knows why.
It's kind of like a sick joke.
We had multiple different lawsuits suing Merrick Garland at that time, and the FBI got access to all of them.
So if they weren't running them through what's called a taint team, where they have some people that are allowed to see stuff and say, okay, that's privileged or not, and the odds are.
And by the way, he was going to be on today, but one of his friends in the military committed suicide.
So he's dealing with that in the family right now.
But I want to just explain this to people.
He came on the day before Pam Bondi released the so-called Epstein list that was old.
And he said, no, we just got a hold of them through our people.
She's now learning that she's been set up.
She put a cover sheet on saying that.
And then he came back on and said, yeah, they're going to be raiding those offices in New York.
And then...
They did.
And then you're on a few weeks later and you're like, yeah, they've sent out 14 terabytes, including all this stuff with all these new victims, which they then came out and confirmed.
And then you said, I don't want to overhype this.
So, I mean, how do you overhype the fact you guys have broken major, accurate stuff and dozens of huge whistleblower things you did the right way to Congress and nothing was done.
So much of the big stuff we know about is from people like you and Garrett O 'Boyle, you specifically.
I mean, it's just crazy.
For thanks, you've got the FBI trying to put you in prison.
And if you go listen to anybody talking about their issues with the FBI, and it doesn't matter whether you talk about the Weaponization Committee and Jim Jordan's guys, you hear President Trump say the same things, you heard Kash Patel say it in all of his confirmation hearings, every single complaint that people have gone forward, they said that they were investigating Catholics in Richmond, Virginia.
I brought that forward.
They were talking about going after parents at school board meetings.
I brought that forward in October of 2021, and they kicked me out of the office for my troubles.
Now, obviously, COVID had something to do with it as well, but at the end of the day, for my troubles, for going out there and telling people, like, yeah, there's a lot of malfeasance here, and I tried to do it internally.
I started my first whistleblower activity, Alex, in 2017.
The simple thing was, I didn't come forward and say the FBI can't do investigations into certain parents if they make threats online, for example, which you could.
What I said was, the Attorney General told the American people, under oath, that they would not be using counterterrorism resources to do so.
They wouldn't be using Patriot Act tools.
And then they sent out an email, which is what people famously saw in November of 2021, showing that there was, in fact, a cosigning by the national security side of the FBI, the counterterrorism division.
Okay, sir, if you don't understand, you probably want to reintroduce us.
You said, oh, this, I don't want to overhype this, so this is big.
This is the first time it's ever been seen.
This is the FBI unmasking you, then doing a demonstration for those they're handing it off to, the technician, of how they did it and how they discovered who you were.
Then they tracked back from you where you got it from and put that person on leave and haven't paid them.
That's the FBI technician who was down at the lab at Quantico evaluating my voice print, speaking to James O 'Keefe.
So that's the article that you have sitting on the top of your stack.
That's what they went and did.
It took them 50, what, 57 seconds in that clip to be able to determine what my voice sounded like.
The other crazy thing is, and we have a little, like an audio, I think it's number, audio clip number six.
They started downloading podcasts that I appeared on, including the first one where I appeared with Dan Bongino.
So what we did is, Garrett O 'Boyle's attorneys, he's not here with us, Garrett and his attorneys.
Ask the FBI for what's called the agency file.
This is the things that they compiled to justify the suspension of the man that hasn't been at work for a thousand days.
And in doing so, the FBI turned over that voice print that you just saw, and it took 57 seconds for them to determine that that is not Gerardo Boyle's voice.
He's from the Midwest.
His diction is different.
Every time he speaks, he quotes scripture nonstop.
It's not my thing.
So that's just what he does.
We don't sound anything alike.
In fact, all your listeners can probably hear.
This is what my voice sounds like.
That's what the voice sounded like at Quantico.
They said they had like a 95% chance that they understood that that was the case.
So they started pulling audio from the first podcast where I appeared in true name and in real voice, which was in September of 2022.
And that is this clip that we have from Dan Bongino's podcast.
For some reason, they didn't do the video.
They just grabbed the audio because all they care about is the sound.
But you guys can play.
We've got a few seconds of it.
Dan Bongino's voice is recorded as evidence against Garrett O 'Boyle and Kyle Serafin.
He is now the deputy director of the FBI.
Do you know how wild a turn of events that we're dealing with right now?
And again, you guys are exposing their manuals, literally demonizing conservative Catholics as a main threat, and expanding, oh, white supremacy, that means anybody that's pro-life.
I mean, you guys did a service bringing all this out.
And instead, you've got them spending all these resources while they don't want to go investigate kidnapped kids.
No, because they're too busy investigating me and my wife.
And here's another thing.
I know of five grand juries that have been opened.
I don't know of this new one.
And I sit back and think.
It's very complicated because I'm literally doing nothing wrong.
And I'm always thinking, well, gosh.
I guess, again, they didn't indict me for something, but them trying and trying.
This is intense stalking is what this is.
This is terrorizing people.
Now, I'm calm about it.
I love God.
I signed on for this so I can handle it.
But see, it's the message to everybody else.
You don't want to stand up to us or we'll do this to you.
And it doesn't matter that they've had IRS audits and federal investigations and U.S. trustee investigations and dozens of depositions and proctology exams and private detectives they hired.
It doesn't matter.
They just keep digging and digging and digging.
Have you ever seen that meme where it shows a guy with a pickaxe picking through the rock and he finally quits, but right behind it's all the gold or whatever?
Well, there ain't no gold on the other side.
So I just get concerned because they're very corrupt, we know.
What is the point where they go ahead like with Cheryl Atkinson's husband and go ahead and just try to plant child porn on me or something?
This is why when I put this out, and this was over the weekend, suppressing dissent is the part that sits in my brain.
And bigger than that, let's say people don't care about Alex Jones.
That's possible.
They don't care about Kyle Serafin.
That's okay, too.
You don't have to.
Do you care about the opportunity cost that you took agents, you took a grand jury's time, they only have so much time in front of them, you took United States attorneys, the federal prosecutors, and they sat there working on building a case that never was, that never existed.
I had people from inside the Hoover Building tell me, you need to look over your shoulder for the next three years, because they're going to come for you.
And I went, like, what the hell did I do?
Like, what do you got on me?
And they said, obstruction.
Now, the crazy thing is, is one of the things that I've pushed forward, and I said that there was improper treatment of people.
Not everybody that was at January 6th was peaceful, but guys like Owen certainly were.
No, so the way it worked is I was labeled a militant, violent extremist organization.
Thank God organizations like Project Veritas exist.
They leaked this information.
An FBI whistleblower came out and said, this is indeed true.
And not only that, but the FBI looked into Mike Glover's records.
I'm a retired former special operations guy, a sergeant major, have an impeccable career, have done nothing wrong, have never broken any laws.
And they went into my career, went into my DD-214, went into my med records.
And luckily, somebody in the FBI, likely an FBI hostage rescue guy that I work with overseas, Did a report and said, hey, this guy's on the up and up.
I don't know why you're looking in this guy, but cease and desist.
And that's how the traffic was verbalized on a forum within the FBI.
So it's not, it's something that I thought was a rumor because I was getting suppressed and deleted, canceled off of every social media platform, but it wasn't.
Because he created something called the American Contingency, which started off as a locals group, and it was a way for Americans to connect with other Americans and say, hey, Alex, I've got a generator.
And what that resulted in is what you see in that article right there from Project Veritas, which they created this thing called the Militia Violent Extremist Symbols Guide.
Now, in that Tucker clip, Mike attributes the FBI whistleblower probably to somebody in the hostage rescue team because he used to train FBI agents.
This is like every single year they re-upped this thing.
But what's crazy is what's on this.
So the FBI releases symbols guides so that people that are in local law enforcement can find out what an extremist looks like.
And to them, under this particular document, an extremist looks like someone who has a Second Amendment flag or who likes the Betty Ross flag or has a Don't Tread on Me flag.
It's somebody who wants to be involved in preparedness, who thinks that Ashley Babbitt is a martyr and shouldn't have been killed.
When I thought I was being suppressed and then people were like, yeah, but, you know, it's just your analytics suck or whatever.
I was like, yeah, that's probably it.
You know, I was being optimistic about that.
Well, when...
Kyle Serafin, have you heard that name?
He's the FBI agent who leaked the documents of militant, violent extremists, MVEs, that were determined by the FBI of being people and groups of interest.
I knew it was a reality.
This just recently happened.
This was probably six months ago.
This just got leaked.
So let's back up like a couple years.
When I started...
A group called American Contingency.
The idea for that group was coming from the issues in Chaz.
All right, so instead of having communists burn things down, he said, why don't we have a community to come?
You know, together and like help the homeless, all that kind of stuff.
Nothing worse than actual Americans coming together.
They want you isolated.
They want you alone.
We got to go to break.
We'll come back with more of this and then into the big picture, then all the new Epstein stuff and what's going on with the FBI and the intel you've got.
You broke massive news here in March, but the 14 terabytes first.
Boyle broke massive news that Bondi had been, you know, given BS that she was going to go after him.
She did.
I mean, just incredible information, but a lot more you're going to break.
But we want to do the backstory first in the first hour, the second hour with Kyle Serafin right now.
Stay with us.
We'll be right back.
All right, Kyle Serafin.
The most famous in modern time FBI whistleblower.
I mean, if he listed all the things he blew the whistle on, once he started doing it, just like, what, three, four years ago, it's just insane how much we know because of him.
And, you know, then I said, I know you didn't ask, but you're the type of guy that they should bring in the administration.
And I know Congress has thanked you and some of the Republicans have, but, you know, I've noticed, you know, somehow, I mean, it's kind of prasada mangrada, but...
We can talk about that more coming up.
But I really want to get into the Jeffrey Epstein stuff, the new things we know, Kash Patel's testimony, how he was killed, the 14 terabytes, what you're hearing about the ongoing investigation since they got the information two months ago.
People get confused and go, wait, they've had it for years.
No, they just got this because the Democrats at the New York office were sitting on top of it.
You know, the head agent there that said we're...
We're in a bunker.
You know, we're going to resist Trump.
We're Marines fighting him.
And then he had to resign.
It looks like obstruction to me.
You've been investigated.
They've threatened you for obstruction.
The real obstruction is the head of the FBI in New York sitting on 14 terabytes of material with Comey's daughter and, you know, all the rest of it.
I mean, to me, that's the big deal.
And the big question is, what is about to happen now?
And what is the clock running on the 14 terabytes?
When do we start saying there's a cover-up?
How does that really work?
Why would Bondi and Cash Patel give it to the local offices if they were involved in a cover-up?
Let me look at James O 'Keefe's.
Latest stuff on Bondi.
Is that a nothing burger?
And I'm not attacking O 'Keefe.
He's done so much amazing work.
I really respect him.
And he's had a lot of courage.
You know, Kyle's had bad personal experiences, and I respect you as well.
So I think we're all men here.
We're all big boys.
We can talk about it and put it out in the open.
But later I'll get into this.
A lot of people got upset with me because I'm like, hey, I'm the dead man switch.
He said Trump administration people, you know, Epstein, it's bad.
Well, you know, it's not the family.
It's not Trump.
But, you know, and so that's all I can tell you that I make some calls.
People go, yeah, we hear it's Bondi.
I don't say anything about that.
Then I see his little trailer the day before last week showing her picture or a still shot of her.
And I go, oh, my God.
And then it comes out, and it's her saying a little bit more than she said already on Fox News a few times, that we have thousands of files, hundreds of new victims with Epstein.
Well, files are video files, so files are a technical term versus video.
And just quite frankly, people are like, well, what is this, Alex?
You said it was super dangerous.
Well, he told me that he thought it was the most dangerous thing, and he said that in the video he put out.
So he has a lot of credibility with me, so I...
Went with that.
He said I was the only guy he gave any of these details to, and we'll get James on to talk about it.
But people said, oh, that's a nothing burger about the Prince Andrew's fixer saying he knew he was abusing girls.
No, that was huge.
That was actually a big story.
That was new.
People said, oh, that's nothing either.
So I think there's an overdoing it with some people saying, you know, O 'Keefe hasn't delivered a lot of huge, important stories.
I just respect him.
I'm very thankful for him.
But at the same time, the way my brain works is I can only To explain something complex like this the way I see it, because there is so much that goes into it.
And so, yeah, I mean, I do feel somewhat burned by that, just because the way it was done and the way it was implied, I mean, quite frankly, I was ready if it was something really bad and was going to bring it out because it was the right thing to do.
But I was more...
Upset about that, not from a fear perspective, but because I love what Trump's doing and want to believe it's all real, that I was actually had like basically an anxiety attack over a few days into it.
I mean, not where I couldn't breathe and stuff, but I was like sweating and having to lay down and like really freaking out.
My family's like, what's wrong?
And I guess the public was like that, too, because they care.
They want to believe in Trump.
So I was relieved when...
Bondi just said a little bit more to a woman in a restaurant than she said on Fox News, and I was kind of like, it's a very paradoxical feeling.
I was relieved that, okay, see, Trump is good, but then I was also just very frustrating.
So the scary thing is that the government is enormous.
The number of people, when we say they, and I've actually got a clip from Mike Benz to explain, we always say they, or you use different sort of catch-all terms, but the question is...
And the argument went forward and they went, and look, you saw people like Julie Kelly go out and campaign for him and other people that were saying...
They lost people like Bannon, who were like, wait, what the hell?
What are you doing?
You're bringing in a guy.
We called him a J6 warlord, and it's a little bit of an overstatement, which is not my normal MO.
But you brought in the guy who ran the domestic terrorism operations section, the one that was responsible.
But the problem is, is that he was the same guy that put out, he was at the same section that called Americans like Mike Glover a terrorist.
And that group of people that went after J6ers, that went after the people internally at the FBI, that looked inside and said, I mean, these are the people that were trying to hang that around Trump's neck and put him in prison for it.
I have a sneaking suspicion, I would have brought this up to Trump, but I have a sneaking suspicion that if Trump learns about this, he won't be too pleased.
He needs to know that the FBI has not been recaptured.
For all the messaging and the branding and the capturing a couple of illegal aliens and showing the ice jacket and showing the, you know, the ATF or the DOJ or the FBI, that is not a solution.
So, the hope was is that we put two people in there that we're going to go after and gut this thing.
And you want to hear something even more interesting, Elon, since we're just freewheeling here?
I got a similar subpoena to the Google one.
The FBI went after my X account.
It was called Twitter at the time.
So Twitter Corporation, X Corporation got that service.
And they fought it in court.
They actually filed against it, which Google did not do.
And then they lost, and the federal judge out in the Ninth Circuit said, no, no, no, you have to give it over.
So they did.
Then they appealed it in Washington, D.C. So I actually have, and they may even have some of the documents on there, we actually have an ongoing lawsuit on behalf, because Elon Musk has decided to push it, and his ex-corporation is suing, trying to establish case law, even though they already had to give over my stuff, because of Gerardo Boyle and Kyle Serafin's ex-accounts.
Do you know who said that the government's position, that I was a potential flight risk, that I might witness intimidate, or that I might otherwise jeopardize their case, and that's why they had to keep it under seal?
The ex-corporation lawyers argued against it.
And the craziest thing that I've ever heard.
Is that they said Serafin and O 'Boyle are both potentially dangerous.
Well, there's also enough real crime everywhere that if FBI agents were all angels and magically only went after real criminals, they couldn't hardly deal with it.
Much less, I know there's no estimation on it, but there's been guesstimations.
How much, especially under Biden, of the FBI's time has been spent in the DOJ harassing patriots?
Because I was perfectly happy being behind the curtain.
I had my voice altered.
The FBI knew who I was, but nobody else did.
I was totally fine with me.
This...
Two clips came forward and I had them sent to me by a reporter because I was giving information, whistleblower stuff that had gone through the proper channels and then my attorneys were sharing or the members of Congress were sharing and they were saying who I was.
So all of that stuff, I was more than happy not to have my name out there because I didn't want it.
Like, I was a private guy.
If you go Google me, you won't find anything before these clips went live on Dan Bongino's podcast.
This is an agency that has betrayed you and that oath you took.
And to this man or woman who stepped forward and disclosed this horrific information about the FBI targeting a legitimate conservative journalist, I applaud you.
Today, another whistleblower has come forward.
I applaud you as well, sir, ma 'am, from the FBI who came forward with this data.
Folks, we are starting to see it.
People are starting to take their constitutional laws seriously.
Fox News, FBI whistleblower.
The FBI targeted parents via terrorism tools, despite Merrick Garland, our Attorney General's testimony that that didn't happen.
To the FBI agent, male or female, I don't know who you are, who spoke to Kerry, I know, I get it, you want to remain anonymous, I understand, it's not a knock.
But your country's on the line here.
I'd rather you be anonymous and not exist at all, and not do what you're doing, and I appreciate it, you have my respect and gratitude.
But it'd be really powerful if you'd come out.
Come out and speak.
My podcast, my radio show, and my television show are available to you.
I'm saying that in front of this entire audience so everybody understand.
If you need a vehicle to speak, this microphone, and I'll show you this for my Fox crew.
He did the same job that I did on the Secret Service side.
And I went, okay.
I had a phone call with him.
Alex, I was sitting in New Mexico.
I was trying to decide whether I was going to sell my house because I didn't have a job.
I didn't have a paycheck.
And we were trying to figure out what was coming next.
I'm pretty frugal.
So we had some time.
And I decided that I was going to sell my house at the same time that I'm on the phone with Dan.
So I'm getting all the stuff ready to go sell it.
And I say, look, man, I'm going to put my life in your hands.
And so I need to know that you're going to do the right thing with it and that you're not going to.
And he said, I'm going to keep your story alive like an activist.
This is not about clicks.
It's not about, you know, money.
It's not about advertisers.
This is about doing the right thing for this country.
And I believe him, whether it's naive or not.
And I still believe that that's the guy that's sitting there in the FBI.
But I don't think he has the ability to do what he needs to do because that agency is so captured all the way down to the front line people who went out and did the thing that we're going to talk about next, which is that my friend Gerardo Boyle was investigated by the people at the FBI.
And they went and lied.
They sent a senior person in front of Congress.
This is the craziest story that you've ever seen.
FBI agent who testified for Republicans was suspended over leaked sensitive information.
That leaked sensitive information was the video from Project Veritas that I showed you earlier.
And I've proven to you that it was me.
The FBI knew it was me based on the proof that we showed you with that voice.
And I mean, let's remember, we could just go on and on all the stuff that you brought out, that he brought out, that exposed so much, that moved the needle massively for Trump getting back in.
And then I guess now...
Maybe they're just too busy to care, or maybe you guys aren't as cool as the J6 persecutors.
Let me tell you three pieces of information that makes me the most uncomfortable at all of it.
Thing number one, early on in this, I wasn't asked to go testify during that testimony.
That happened in May of 2023.
I wasn't asked to go in front of the House, the Weaponization Committee, because I was told by a person who was close enough to Jim Jordan's office to be able to get a message to me.
You're too politically hot.
You're too aggressive about what needs to be done.
So you're not going to be put out there in Congress under oath.
By the way, Alex, if you put me under oath and you want to be a Congress member and ask me questions that are disingenuous and lies, I'm going to ask you to be under oath too.
Because you notice those people lie and slander everybody that goes up in front of them.
Well, that's what I did in the J6 hearings that they destroyed.
I said, you're criminals.
You've already falsified emails to shift.
And I said, you're a crook, too.
You're a crook.
You're a crook.
So I said, when I take the fifth, it's not because of self-incrimination.
It's because you'll lie and get me on obstruction by twisting it.
And so I said, every time you continue to ask me that, and if you probe me on it, I'm going to give you the same answer I just gave you, that you're a criminal, and you're a criminal, and you're going to go to prison someday if there's any justice, which all came out.
Now they had to get pardons.
And so I took the fifth 98 times.
And about an hour into it, they ask again, and I said, I'm going to repeat it again.
Somebody from Jordan's office told a contact of mine, you're too politically hot to go out there and testify because we don't like the way that you play.
You're not nice.
Another person who I've worked with...
Who everybody knows their name, who is a very nice individual who said, you know what?
You might want to tone down some of the things that you have to say because it's cool to have a brand as a truth teller, but you can only say so much.
And if you attack people within the movement that are not being honest, then you're a real problem.
You're the problem then.
And to me, that's a no-go.
Like, I can't play that route.
And then lastly, you know, I've got this sort of, I've got this sinking feeling.
That we've got people inside the Bureau at every level, all the way down.
Like, they accused my friend Garrett O 'Boyle of lying in testimony.
They accused him of lying when they knew that they were lying.
But when you hurt feelings because you don't want to play for any team.
And by the way, I don't play for a team.
I'm not a registered Republican.
I've only done that one time.
It's because the woman that I was doing my whistleblower activity was up for a primary and wanted to make sure she was the one that stayed there because that was my point of continuity.
That's the only interest I've ever had in being a registered Republican.
It was for a couple of months in New Mexico.
I'm an independent, and I've always been an independent.
I totally agree with you, but there's also, not by you, but a lot of people, this over-focus on keeping Trump honest instead of staying on the attack of the Democrats.
When we see something that's bad, somebody bad, expose it, do it.
But what I do is that's if they're engaged.
Okay, the Democrats are way worse.
They're out of control.
They'll destroy everything.
So I spend most of my time on them.
But then when I see things I don't like about Trump...
Then I come forward and I expose it as a way to help the administration and expose what's happening.
Think about when Donald Trump was like, he was off on, I think it was like, I think it was amendment four or proposition four in Florida about abortion.
And he didn't even know what he was answering the question about.
So they asked him like, where do you feel about this?
And he was like, oh yeah, like I'm for it.
And then people came back and they're like, whoa, dude, no, you're not for it.
And then he went, oh no, no, no, I'm not for that.
Like, so then he fixed his position.
Trump is amenable to knowing when he speaks at a turn or when he didn't have all the information or somebody wants to help him.
You can push Donald Trump with the right information.
All right, we've not been holding the most hardcore stuff to the end on purpose.
He just wanted to get into the updates, the background, all that, but I was just talking.
To Kyle Serafin, the most well-known, prolific, documented whistleblower exposing so much of the deep state's war on the American people.
And Trump, this guy right here.
But I guess he's like too, you know, truthful.
So people are a little bit scared of him right now.
And, you know, that's really where the rubber meets the road.
I serve the truth.
And I talk to people that have a record of telling the truth.
Doesn't mean I agree with everything.
Sometimes, you know, I say stuff and a week later I know I was wrong.
But Kyle has a lot of integrity.
And so we're here doing this today.
We're not trying to stir up trouble.
I'm not trying to attack James O 'Keefe or Pam Bondi or Dan Bongino.
But, you know, all these things need to be scrutinized.
They need to be looked at.
Now, that said, I'll still spend 90% of my time on the Democrats because they're really the bad, evil force.
But we are going to also look at things we disagree with.
And I think that's very, very important to do.
So let's finish these other big stories.
And then I want to get into what you just told me during the break.
Because we've talked some on the phone and stuff, but there's so much going on.
I asked you for an Epstein update.
You broke major news in here a few months ago on March 26. And then now you just broke news to me during the break that was like a punch in the stomach.
And I mean, literally, I felt like a punch in the stomach.
And so I'm recuperating from that right now, literally.
And so I'm just getting my nerves ready for this.
Because, you know, you've been so accurate so far, and I just hope there's some reason for it, but we're going to recap what's happened so far, get the new information here in just a few minutes.
But you wanted to, if you just tuned in, we played a clip of why you finally went public with your name a few years ago, when Dan Bongino asked you on a show to reach out to him to go public.
You did, and then now this turnabout from clip seven, clip two, now what Bongino's been saying about you, here it is.
Yeah, the big story was that last year, right in the heat of the election, the Trump campaign was trying to push forward a narrative that the FBI might have tried to kill Donald Trump, which is false.
Look, don't make me defend the FBI as the last thing I want to do.
They took my job.
They made my kids homeless.
They left my pregnant wife without a place to live.
When I left Dan Bongino's podcast, which happened in September of 2022, I went there.
I left the closing table selling my house, making me officially a man without a house.
I didn't have a home anymore as a grown man in my 40s.
But when someone comes out and says the FBI was trying to tell Donald Trump that they authorized deadly force against him, the FBI is always authorized to use deadly force.
It's the reason why it's so dangerous to use the FBI for anything they do.
It's the reason why this...
This subpoena going after my information or them investigating you is so dangerous.
Because if they decide to come into your house at 0600, which is what they do, they're not coming, like, bringing, you know, coffee and donuts for you.
That was, yeah, Secret Service, DHS, those things.
Like, at the end of the day, incompetence or intentional incompetence, you can argue those things, the two different assassinations, one of which is a guy still on trial, which is pretty wild.
But if you want to talk about serving a search warrant, which should not have been a search warrant, it should have been a request for consent.
By the way, Steve D'Antuano, who's famously, he was involved in the Whitmer hoax.
He was involved in the FBI's investigation of January 6th.
He also said that the FBI shouldn't No, but how did that make him so mad that you had an opinion?
I don't know.
I still don't know.
And you know what?
That was the last time that he talked to me.
He just, like, I got the message the same way people did on that radio show.
That's how I got the message that I was PNG'd.
The problem is he's now in charge of the FBI.
I need him to be successful for the safety of my family, for the safety of your family.
Yeah, Dan hasn't liked me since he used to come on the show all the time before he had a Fox show.
The last time he was on, like, 10 years ago or whatever it was, he goes, hey, I want to talk to you before I go on.
So we're during a break.
And he was on the video link, but we're talking.
He goes, hey, man, quit saying I'm the source for your Secret Service information about Hillary Clinton passing out and falling down.
And I said, you're not my source.
It was Joe Biggs and the Secret Service in Cleveland, and then he got their numbers, and then he would get it from them, and he gave it to me.
And Joe's talked about that.
I said, hey, man, I got that in Cleveland, that she's having these seizures and looked for a black ambulance, which they later caught in New York, a foreign camera guy, and she falls down.
And he starts going, hey, man, I'm telling you, I'll come on your show, but I've had somebody break in my car, and the administration's after me, so he goes, I'm going to tell you right now, stop saying I'm your source.
And he's got a little bit more aggressive, and I said, hey, man, I just told you that.
What do you think, you're the only former Secret Service guy in the universe?
This is from the Secret Service.
And the point is, there was a black ambulance, and she did fall down.
So, you know.
And then later when it came out, they got this NSA-CIA stuff that we were targeted, 20-something names he read on the air last year.
When he gets to my name, he goes, Alexander Jones.
I understand from your perspective as a guy that's credible, a whistleblower, your integrity, that you kind of get caught in the feedback loop, and I'm not saying it's a bad thing, I'm just analyzing it from my perspective, that you've just got to expose, got to expose, got to expose anything bad with the Trump people, which I get is of value.
We want to keep them honest.
I think from people like Mangino's perspective, he's good, he's fighting as hard as he can, and he's sick of being second-guessed, blah, blah, blah.
I think that might be where it's coming from.
And I think people lied to him and said that I said he was my source.
For a guy that used to talk on radio all the time about projection, which is a massive Democrat problem.
When Democrats come to me and tell me, hey, here's the thing that I see wrong with you, I'm like, wow, it sounds like you should be holding a mirror up because you're talking about yourself.
It's interesting to see something that sounds projected.
I've never fallen in love with myself.
I doubt myself every day, Alex.
Like, this is the craziest thing.
This whole thing has brought me actually closer to God, which is the weirdest, because I'm so, like you, I'm exhausted.
I don't know how you've been doing it for as many years as you've been doing it, but I've been exhausted by this.
I was staying in my parents' guest bedroom with my wife, and I'm like, did I miss the boat?
Did I screw up?
Should I just have got the COVID shot?
Should I just have shut my damn mouth and just, like, ignore that?
They're scared of you because they're trying to not be corrupt, but they're trying to get their job done.
They have decided it's more important to stop the globalists and the Democrats than to self-police themselves all day.
And I'm not saying the final equation, they might not be totally wrong.
But...
Because here's where I'm at while you're talking.
I'm thinking about all the Epstein stuff I know, all the new stuff you just told me, and then I'm thinking, hey, print me that article from Friday I covered Saturday, in fact, do it, about how the George Soros law firms are in federal court with judges blocking ICE and the FBI and HHS from getting the location of the kids, and shouldn't we be for the whole show?
Talking about those law firms and NGOs and these judges.
So see, it's not that I'm even scared to expose Kash Patel or Bondi or any of them.
I don't think they're bad.
My point is, is that at what point are you, and I'm not saying you're doing this, we're being totally honest here today, spending too much time...
Focusing on keeping them honest when we know we've got Satan incarnate with the Democrats, and I've got dozens of bombshell things that you're an expert on that we could learn a lot, that we could put pressure on the FBI and Congress to take action on.
The people that you have working for you, because the FBI is not monolithic, Alex.
Imagine if you had a bunch of satellite offices.
And so your satellite offices all operate semi-autonomously.
That is the FBI's model.
They've got 55 field offices where there is a person called the special agent in charge.
That person sets policy.
And what they do every single day is not going to be able to make to the attention span of those people that are in Washington, D.C. So you have to have the right people running that.
I'll just tell you very clearly.
We came up with a program, and this is me and a bunch of, like, retired former FBI guys who care about reforming the agency so that it can do the work that we want it to do.
Because I actually do want it to do things like go after Chinese espionage inside of our universities.
And Steve Friend and a couple of other people who had the balls to say the FBI is not a good place right now.
We had a report that there were 300 special agents that were working inside the headquarters building simply looking at other FBI agents who weren't going to go with the program.
You've got two more things you want to hit on this other subject, and then we've got to get into the Epstein deep dive, the stuff about him obviously being murdered, what's come out there now in the federal detention facility in New York.
The Pam Bondi statements investigation, the 14 terabytes that has been sent out to the field offices.
Has anything been done with that?
Don't tell them yet from your sources.
And last time you were here, you were showing me the FBI guys telling you all this.
And it all came out to be accurate.
But you even showed me, and I'm like, dude, are you...
So, all that, and then you told me what's going on.
I believe you.
And so we're going to break that coming up.
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He's got one of these brains that just functions like beyond most people.
What he's talking about in this particular clip is the whole of society misinformation slash censorship.
This is the nature of the Twitter files.
This is how our government, this is the they that we always talk.
What did they do?
They equals...
Government.
It equals NGOs.
It equals media.
And it equals private sector.
And certain people getting co-aligned interests.
This is what an administrative state would look like.
He breaks down in about 90 seconds.
Something that everybody needs to understand so that when you're out there saying they to your friends and trying to wake them up a little bit, Mike Benz puts it out there.
It's the reason why government is only one piece of it.
Of course, the one I used to work for is part of it.
All of these little groups.
So you guys can play this clip.
It's self-explanatory.
We'll have it freeze frame at the end at about 90 seconds with the...
With the graph, with the four pieces, so we can kind of talk.
Everyone should sort of brand like a cow iron into their brain somewhere, which is this concept of the whole society censorship framework.
Now, they will call it the whole society counter misinformation or counter disinformation framework, but it's censorship.
They're not countering it through speech.
They're countering it through remove, reduce, and form, all censorship techniques.
Now, the whole society framework...
is getting four different categories of institutions to all work in concert with each other as if they are one, the nucleus of a single cell.
And that is government institutions, private sector institutions, civil society institutions, and news media and fact checkers.
This is not my framework.
This is theirs.
I can play you a 20-minute supercut of them invoking this like a, like a mantra.
It looks like a weird scene out of eyes wide shut when you hear them all get in their incantation hole of society, hole of society.
But just to flesh out, for example, what this means in a U.S. context, and I guarantee you in every country of your concern, you will see this exact same phenomenon with this exact same constellation.
Just substitute the names for the government agencies, for example.
So on the U.S. side, in the government, as I mentioned, you have DHS, FBI, DOD, Department of State, National Science Foundation, which is basically just the civilian arm of the Pentagon.
You have specific...
Agencies that are now given as part of their democracy mandate censorship of their particular field of expertise.
For example, you'll have misinformation grants being given out by the Department of Energy, or you will have COVID censorship grants being given out by our Health and Human Services Department.
You now have White House coordination of this with the Biden administration.
That was something that was not there during the Trump era, but that is now something that we're dealing with.
On the private sector side, these are the tech platforms.
Yeah, so you guys can see on the graph there what we're talking about.
But none of these one animals are...
The reason why I feel like we can talk about not the Trump administration per se, but we can talk about our government agencies is because they're supposed to serve us.
And what a deep state is, which Mike is talking about, he calls it the blob.
I think it's a good analogy.
These people are...
There are people that are in the social media.
They are in the actual media.
They are in the private sector.
They are the ones that are serving that Google search warrant, and they didn't push back, and they didn't say, hey, maybe we should go and file a lawsuit like Elon Musk did.
All these people work together with co-aligned interests.
So if you come in and take over, and you're HHS, you're RFK, you're Cash Mattel, you're Dan Bongino, you're Pam Bondi.
If you do any of those things, you step into those spaces, and you have a team that's working against you and has been working against you since the beginning.
You're not fighting against the Trump administration when you tell them, hey, you guys got a really clean house in there.
Well, that's the thing they admitted they really got mad at me about when Trump first got in is I would talk to him some and he would take action on it.
And I'd send him documents and got reports to him.
They had headlines.
The chief of staff's job is keeping Trump away from Alex Jones.
And now they've got a much bigger problem.
Now they've got Elon Musk and everybody else.
I agree with you.
What you're doing telling the Trump administration about where there's problems in the bureaucracy is not attacking Trump.
Kyle Sermon and I were just talking about it during the break.
And so we really just, I tell you my thought process here on air, he does as well, our other guests too.
And this is really about a war game about society and civilization, discovering how things work, and then getting people informed about those issues.
In this short segment, I want to get into the Chinese espionage we can do an hour on, but we need to do the deep dive now on huge breaking Epstein news from you, more massive exclusives coming up in about five minutes.
Just a quick nutshell on the Chinese Confucius centers, Chinese espionage.
I have some listeners sometimes going, oh, China's not an issue.
It's all Israel.
It's not about a defense of Israel.
Or MI6 and the British, they're up our grill, too.
Or the big corporations.
Corporate intelligence, they don't call it that, but that's what it is.
You know, there's two major U.S. counterintelligence threats that have been out there for as long as, you know, I've been paying attention to it.
China and Russia.
Russia punches above its weight because it has the USSR sort of infrastructure behind it.
But the Chinese are the ones that are running 100-year plans.
You know, they do not screw around.
And what's crazy is that when we had actionable counterintelligence cases against the Chinese, I had whistleblowers come to me and say, help me get to Congress.
We need to report.
That the DOJ, under Merrick Garland, will not actually prosecute.
And it's very rare that you could prosecute because the laws are not in our favor.
The crazy thing is the Chinese 100% have structured all of their society, all of their capabilities towards their interests.
They don't play around.
They don't have to pussyfoot about anything.
They don't have to make like a dissenting group.
You know, sort of placated.
That doesn't happen in China.
So there are laws that require that everybody that has a server in China has to make it available to the Chinese government through a backdoor.
So the whole thing is weaponized, and then meanwhile it just came out from the trade deal that the Chinese told what we already knew, told the trade secretary, hey, even though Trump got some good trade deals with us and Biden kept them in, he told everybody not to enforce it.
In the United States of America, at one of our universities, there is an organized, orchestrated spy ring.
To put this in perspective, when I got here, I said, when I was told that there was a Chinese law in place that required Chinese nationals, including students that come to the United States on visas, and by the way, we take 300,000 Chinese students a year into our universities, there's a law in the books that says they have to provide intelligence gathering and information to the CCP.
We also had information in Congress before I even got here that they were setting up these programs to organize spies and push them into our universities using visas.
And when I got here and realized that there was no law stopping the visa program, even though we had that information, I immediately launched a bill that would end visas for Chinese students.
Now, nothing against Chinese students that want to learn.
But if you have a government that is enlisting them and not just enlisting them, requiring them by law.
When it's stated that they are sent here and their families will be put in jail if they don't do this, then by extension, you have to have China change the law, which I don't want to follow.
You know, some in the Trump administration are concerned about him because they know if he thinks something's wrong and he gets information, he's going to talk about it.
And people know they can go to him and he'll get it out after he vets it.
So it would take hours to go over all the things he blew the whistle on that we now know about, the Christians being targeted, Catholics, parents going to school board meetings, parents upset about their daughters getting raped by transgenders in the bathrooms.
This is a guy that exposed that and then so much more.
The documents targeting Christians, conservatives, people with gas and flags as terrorists.
This guy, and he's become a kind of a focal point in a clearinghouse for other whistleblowers.
And so he got Garrett O 'Boyle, a very well-known, respected whistleblower, has been proven incredibly accurate as well, to come on the show a day and a half before they released the first so-called new Epstein stuff that Pam Bonney was given.
And he said on the show, just this morning, My sources in the FBI have talked to her people.