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It's Friday, January 31st, 2025, and all hell's breaking loose. - Infowars.
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Is it the second golden age of America?
And the second great renaissance for the world?
Or will it be the great reset?
And the post-industrial hellscape of the WFUN Rothschild plan?
We are 10 days, 23 hours, 40 seconds since President Trump was inaugurated.
Ten days ago.
Well, every time, I think Trump might let up a little bit.
He just intensifies the action.
And even the New York Times, the Washington Post, Atlantic Monthly, the Financial Times of London, the Wall Street Journal, they all have the same headlines.
Trump and the collapse of the old order.
Now, you can say what you want about what Trump's really planning to do or who he really is.
It's all worn on his sleeve.
He is anything.
He's a straight shooter.
But even the establishment admits they're not the establishment anymore.
Their old order of these horrible, wicked, evil people is no longer in charge because the people are awake and everywhere globalists are being thrown out of office.
The corporations are reversing their DEI on the surface, but that doesn't mean that we've succeeded in the main mission of turning it around.
Just because there's a runaway train, and people notice the train's going 100 miles an hour, and they're coming to the next stop, and there's a former train conductor on board.
He says something's wrong, and he goes up and gets in the engine and sees that the conductor's had a heart attack.
And you move him out of the seat and start going for the controls.
So we're moving them out of the seat right now.
They're struggling some.
But even Bill Maher's been saying, look, the Democrats are too dangerous.
The left is too insane.
They're mismanaging everything, which has really been on purpose.
But we got to give Trump a shot or we're all screwed.
Yeah, it's self-preservation kicking in.
Does that mean we're not inheriting a disaster?
Does that mean large pockets of the globalists aren't going to keep fighting?
Absolutely not.
But, yeah, their system will never be put back together again.
The woke mind virus is dead.
The globalists have been defeated.
But will they all recognize that?
And the answer is no.
There are cults that were founded thousands of years ago that took over countries for a while but got defeated but still operate in the shadows.
No, the big mission is, what are we going to do now?
What are we going to set up now?
And there's still the process of removal.
So we're far from done, but we are in the beginning of total victory.
We've gone through being ragtag, totally under attack, having the facts, knowing what was coming, to building beachheads around the world.
In government and in institutions and corporations and individually to now routing the enemy and beginning the takeover worldwide that they cannot stop.
And they recognize that because it's momentous.
It has major energy, people power behind it.
It's the Great Awakening.
It's the fourth turning.
And they knew it was coming in the cycles.
A mega turning.
The greatest ever since we recorded history.
So they tried to bring in absolute tyranny and just...
Total cultural poisoning, sabotage, to try to destabilize things so much that they could kind of end the cycles of history.
That didn't work and only supercharged this awakening.
But a bellwether is Pete Buttigieg and all the different cabinet people.
Just last night, not just him, a bunch of them, removed their pronouns from their X-handles.
Because it's a cult.
They know it's ridiculous.
But they understand now it's backfired so much that they've got to at least hide.
All right, so much coming up when we are joined by 400-plus stations.
60-second break, and then there's just incredible news on the peace front as well.
It's just an incredible transmission, totally jam-packed.
General Flynn coming up with key intel.
Stay with us.
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I've been on air 31 years in April in just a few months.
And I could have done none of this without all of you.
You're not number one.
You are the whole shooting match.
And I just want listeners and viewers to understand that this is a participation sport of freedom.
The MVPs.
And that's not about patting you on the head.
It's about you recognizing the victories we're having are because of you.
Your prayer.
Your action.
Your courage.
Your word of mouth.
Battling the greatest psychological warfare operation the world's ever seen.
Trying to break your will and demoralize you and make you shut up and go away.
But you didn't do it.
Because you're just like me.
We're family.
And I just love you so much.
I'm so proud of you.
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I don't want you to know that.
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That's a relationship.
And I am beyond humbled and honored in the confidence and the support that you have given me and my crew in our mutual fight together.
I just wanted to say that right up front here.
All right, we've got our work cut out for us today.
Man, there is so much to get to, so much to hit, and stuff's breaking, and as it breaks, we'll cover it.
General Flynn, the former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency and Chief National Security Advisor to President Trump, someone who's been through the political, lawfare, and criminal wringer by the deep state, is going to give us his next level intel at the bottom of the hour in about 22 minutes from now.
He's got a lot to break here.
And he's got all the sources.
So that's coming up.
Then I am going to go through all the news throughout the day and open the phones up.
All right, let me just give you a quick snapshot of what's going on.
And then, of course, I'll drill through the stacks and clips.
We could have a great four-hour show and just play these clips and comment on them.
But that's informative.
And it's entertaining, and it's also not exhausting for me.
But because you're doing such an amazing job taking clips out of the show that are now all over TikTok, all over Instagram, their attempts to censor has failed.
Looks like Zuckerberg is at least partially getting out of the way, dominating on X, thanks to Elon Musk and all of you sharing the clips.
We're hitting 200 million on average a day now, just on my one channel, not even counting the others, Real Ox Jones.
Massive tens of millions tuning in on talk radio.
Millions and millions of info wars on our streams.
Millions and millions on the podcast.
I can't even track all the clips and derivatives of what we say and do.
And then all the other talk show hosts and people in government, corporations researching what I say, what I break down, going and looking into it, and then putting their view onto it and putting it out.
But we're dominating the culture worldwide right now.
We are devastating the globalists together.
And I am just...
Pinching myself at the fact that we never went anywhere.
Alex Jones never went away, so I never returned from exile because they never really exiled me.
They tried.
But this is triumphant.
And nothing succeeds like success.
And we've broken the bad guys back.
They're still going to try to take us out.
So we've got to watch.
Everything going on around us, we've got to stay frosty.
You know, I like to use movie analogies.
It's like one of the best Westerns ever with the great folks like Gene Hackman and, of course, the all-time Western star, Clint Eastwood, Unforgiven, and he goes in there to avenge his dead friend and shoots the sheriff.
Sheriff ain't dead yet.
Sheriff goes for his gun.
The last minute, he puts his boot down on his wrist and says, no.
It's over.
Well, we haven't gotten to that point yet.
And I'm saying metaphorically, we have to finish them off.
Nonviolently, lovingly.
All right, let me tell you what I got here.
This is just staggering.
Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, is doing exactly what Trump's telling him to do.
And though I've never trusted Marco Rubio, he's definitely smart and able.
And he's telling Russia and Ukraine, you're going to come to the negotiating table and putting big pressure on Ukraine and on NATO members that have been saying they're just going to ignore The Trump administration, well, Trump's threatening to cut off all the funding to NATO. We fund the majority of it, 50% of it, 51%, 85% on average of the Ukraine war.
So the U.S. has all the leverage.
And so Trump's taking the gloves off there.
The U.S. Secretary of State calls for end of Ukraine war via negotiations now.
Everyone is tired.
Crisis grows.
The Ukrainian army has desertions accelerate.
Meanwhile, the real issue, China building the world's largest military command center.
Ten times bigger than the Pentagon.
Then we have big developments with the helicopter crash a few days ago, Wednesday night.
They're in D.C. And my first approximation yesterday morning has borne out Of the same thing that all the air traffic controllers and people that called in, both military and civilians, said this is completely irregular, beyond irregular.
And now we have all the HD footage and the telemetry.
The helicopter just goes up and then just tracks and goes right into The passenger jet.
And I posted on X some of the newest videos, one of them Nick Sordor has.
Here it is, close up from Fox.
And we have also close up HD. And it looks like somebody hacked into the automation system, which those helicopters do have, and either hijacked it, By remote control.
Or you had what you've seen a lot of times with these Islamic pilots that'll work, you know, for years as pilots and then kamikaze.
And I'm not saying the pilot did that.
I'm just saying that that's what all the experts are saying is, you know, did the pilot have a heart attack?
A stroke?
And the other people couldn't know how to fly it?
Did somebody...
And by the way, Lockheed Martin with Sikorsky.
For decades, they have remote control systems on these.
And they've been demonstrating them everywhere.
And so I see people saying, oh, those aren't on those aircraft.
The hell they aren't.
You can buy a half-million-dollar aircraft with $100,000 of avionics and equipment on it, and they've got the autopilot systems where if you want, The helicopter will take off, go exactly where you tell it to go, and land perfectly.
I mean, I've got friends that have helicopters that aren't even that fancy, and we go up at them all the time.
And, I mean, they show me.
It's insane.
And these are not fancy helicopters.
And I've showed it all yesterday.
I showed the promo videos from the Defense Department, and they've been...
Lockheed Martin boasted of remote Blackhawk helicopter technology three months before tragic DC aerial disaster.
And again, they're, quote, boasting of all of this.
They've had this since World War II with radio control, but now because of the satellites and the 5G and all that, they're ready to roll it all out.
It's not just autonomous cars on the ground or autonomous drone reapers and all the rest of it.
And Predators, and that's all 30-year-old technology.
So, I'm talking to the air traffic controllers and pilots.
You heard them on the show yesterday.
I see them everywhere.
I mean, it's not just a consensus.
People are like, this doesn't make sense.
Trump came out yesterday and said, the helicopter shouldn't have been doing that, and it clearly just continues flying along and runs right into it.
And it's not responding to the tower.
But that's a big stack.
I'm already kind of getting into it.
It is.
Absolutely crazy.
And you realize that all the new cars have remote control kill switches and self-driving.
All of them.
Unless you get the very cheapest car, you have to special order them.
Everything by law now has tracking in them.
They call it crash avoidance.
I remember like 10 years ago renting a Tahoe when I'm on a business trip.
And you barely go over the line.
It pushes you back over.
That's self-driving, folks.
They're just, people don't like that, so they don't call it that.
So, we can find the clip.
See, that's the problem.
I said, I'm going to just mention what's coming up, and it's hard to not get into it.
Bush was at, George W. Bush, like a week after or so, was in New York.
It was a press conference.
And he says, well, don't worry.
We'll have a thing to stop hijacking in the future because for a few years now, all these passenger planes in the United States have a system that allows the government or the airlines to take control remotely of aircraft.
And the assistant, I never saw this before or after, grabs him by the arm and starts jerking on his arm.
And then he shut up about it.
And then I talked to people in the industry, they said, no, yeah, but they keep it quiet.
So, you know, you hear about all the squad cars now that have cameras on the cops and track everywhere they go and all that.
It's in the airplanes too, okay?
And the issue is, they don't want the public to know about this.
I mean, it came out yesterday that Amazon, for over a decade, tracks all your cell phones.
If you've ever bought anything over a cell phone, you didn't opt in to do it.
It just has the program on it, and it tracks everywhere you go and your behaviors.
And then, of course, it came out.
I mean, I remember I moved out.
My ex-wife was divorced from me.
I moved out, went and bought a new smart TV, and I thought, let me just read this new Samsung TV. Terms of service.
And then I talked about it.
It became a big news story.
You can pull it up on Infowars.com about 11, 12 years ago.
And I set the TV up.
And I go ahead and read it.
And it literally says, this television uses audio to listen to you so that you can voice activate for also for marketing and research purposes.
So if you don't want something heard by others, don't say it.
I mean, you just said it real matter-of-factly.
And I showed it.
It reports on it.
I mean, remember whenever they came out like 15 years ago with Alexa?
With Amazon, and I said, that thing's listening to you all the time.
Same thing with your phone.
Hey, Siri.
There it is, turn it on.
It's listening all the time.
How does it get your voice prompt?
Because it's already open, and it creates a text.
Record of everything you say, every sound.
It's come out in court where it'll say dog barking, birds chirping.
It even gets ambient noise.
And it'll have notes driving in the car.
I can tell you're in the car.
Yeah, there it is.
Samsung Smart TV records personal conversations and sends them to third parties.
CIA turned Samsung Smart TVs into listening devices.
WikiLeaks dump reveals.
There you go.
So, I mean, I'll still tell adults this stuff.
And they don't believe me.
They're like, that's not true.
That'd be illegal.
Oh, it came out six months ago.
Ford, for years, has listened to everything you say in your car.
They all are.
So...
It's not an X-Files episode from 25 years ago, which there was, where the CIA or some group kills the guy by remote controlling his car.
It's the reality.
See, I said I'd tell you what's coming up, and I'm only on story two, sorry.
Oh, my goodness.
Senior FBI leaders ordered to retire, resign, or be fired by Monday.
Good.
Get rid of all the deep staters.
The hearings have just been spectacular.
Kosh Patel, Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Jr. We've got a bunch of key highlights we didn't get to yesterday that are just amazing.
Then a big stack on Democrat governors and mayors protecting rapists and killers.
Literally protecting them.
Governor Pritzker is set to sign a bill that will let the state change the name Of convicted, violent, illegal alien criminals to, quote, protect them from Trump.
That's racketeering.
That's criminal.
That's obstruction of justice.
That's a conspiracy against the law, against people's rights and safety.
That is a civil rights violation of the greatest order, like California's passed a law where you can have sex with 12-year-olds.
And they also have it where they're letting convicted child molesters change their name when they become transgender, and then that's not the database, their old name.
They're letting them hide their identities.
Just like four years ago, we learned.
This is something I learned about for two years, because it was secret.
We learned about two years ago.
One of the first actions of Biden secretly, you know, the Congress had funded the money, was to end DNA testing of kids with people that had no IDs.
Oh, this is really your kid?
Doesn't look like you.
Well, we're going to put you in this holding cell.
This test takes a day.
It'll tell us, are you a dad, a mom, a cousin?
They ended that and kept it secret from Congress so they could cover the tracks.
They didn't lose the kids.
They smuggled them.
I mean, they have to go to prison.
And Kash Patel and Tom Homan have said, and they said again yesterday in the hearings, we're going after all the human traffickers from the bottom to the top.
We're releasing the Jeffrey Epstein file.
I broke that last week.
I said, as soon as he's confirmed, they're releasing it all.
Yeah, activists sent a letter to President Biden asking him to resume DNA testing at the U.S.-Mexico border.
And, of course, they didn't.
So these are...
Monsters.
And the stack on the illegal alien crime, just one of these articles, I could talk about it for an hour.
And then the gruesome murders.
There's so many in Chicago a day.
Some days it's like 20 people on average, like five deaths a day at least.
They executed two female sex slaves that had been shipped into the country that tried to escape yesterday.
They tortured another man.
I mean, I can't even, this stuff is so gruesome.
And Governor Pritzker says, I'm going to sign into law, they passed it, to release these people out of jail, even if they've convicted them for something, slap on the wrist, if we think ICE is coming to get them, and we're going to erase and give them new names.
What?
Indict that evil bastard.
I mean, my God.
The arrogance of these people.
Of course, you know, his brother is the cult leader running the corporate funding.
Gates is over the poison shots globally in the big foundations.
His brother, who says it's a woman, this big fat ugly dude with a wig on, is literally the command leader of the chop your son's penis off operation.
Again, big stacks of corporate news admitting the old order's dead.
We have Trump signs historic executive order ending radical indoctrination in U.S. schools to protect our children to cut federal funding if they do it.
Trump makes bold pitch to protect the U.S. dollar, will impose 100% tariffs on countries joining alternative reserve currency.
Trump announces 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico over failing to stop illegal alien invasion, fentanyl entering the U.S. We've got big news on how they are openly announcing they're going to steal everybody's property and not even pay most people any money in the Palisades and other areas directly as we predicted they would do.
They didn't just burn it down for nothing.
I mean, this is a takeover.
Also, Trump's FCC chairman opens an investigation into NPR and PBS saying the government may abolish them or cut funds, which is the same thing.
We have a lot of amazing Amazing information we're going to be covering.
Before we go to break, I want to play a clip of Kosh Patel talking about what's all public.
I mean, this is on record that the Democrats, the mayor, Pelosi, jurisdictionally, for checks and balances, they're over whether National Guard can come in.
And they said no, because they had the setup going.
But when Trump tried to talk about that on Twitter, he was banned right after J6, including he was banned that day, so they could lie and say Trump's calling for violence, but he never did.
Here's the clip.
ted cruz
What were you doing on that day?
unidentified
On that day specifically, responding to preparing to mobilize and deploy the National Guard once we got the lawful request from the local governing authority, which was the mayor of D.C. and the Speaker of the House.
ted cruz
Now, how many days in advance were you working to prepare the Department of Defense to help secure the Capitol on January 6th?
unidentified
Days in advance, Senator.
We were in the Oval Office on an unrelated national security matter with the President of the United States, the Secretary of Defense, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and myself.
And the president authorized up to 20,000 plus National Guards men and women to secure any security measures necessary related to the Capitol.
So we were moving to the fullest extent of the law before the requisite request came from a local governing authority days ahead of time.
ted cruz
And while you were chief of staff at DOD, how many times did DOD approach Capitol Police and ask if they needed National Guard assistance?
unidentified
I believe those letters are well documented.
Numerous instances, and numerous of those instances, those requests were shut down.
ted cruz
Am I correct that the Capitol sergeant at arms said assistance was unnecessary?
unidentified
That's correct, Senator.
ted cruz
Who did the sergeant at arms report to?
unidentified
The Speaker of the House.
ted cruz
That would have been Nancy Pelosi at the time.
Is that correct?
unidentified
Yes, Senator.
ted cruz
And would that also be...
Chuck Schumer, then the Senate Majority Leader?
unidentified
The Sergeant-at-Arms, yes, Senator, reports up there.
ted cruz
Did Mayor Bowser, the Democrat-elected mayor in D.C., either request or allow National Guard assistance?
unidentified
She put in writing, on the days leading up to January 6th, a declination for National Guard additional support.
And that letter's available publicly to the world.
ted cruz
So, and just to speak English for folks at home, a declination meant she said no, don't send National Guard.
Is that right?
unidentified
Yes, sir.
ted cruz
Let me ask you a simple question, because from the questioning from my Democrat colleagues...
alex jones
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The evil genius that launched what became the Soviet Union, V.I. Lenin, once wrote, there are decades when nothing happens, and there are weeks when decades happen.
Well, we are in the greatest time of change, the greatest quickening ever.
And General Flynn, the former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, former National Security Advisor to President Trump, their main first target to take out, Eight years ago, had lunch with me, a long two-hour briefing between us both,
a few months after they stole the election in 2021. And he was confident that if we continued to mobilize and expose what they were going to do, and he predicted there what they would do, and if we got out and got Trump in control of the Republican Party in the next few years, Focused on stopping or mitigating massive election fraud.
That he would win in a landslide.
We wouldn't cut out all the fraud, but it would still be a landslide and that we would win.
And that Trump was way more informed and now wasn't, I want to say naive, but just not understanding what he was up against in the deep state.
That we could take the country back and we're here.
So I want to thank him for All he's done for his country in uniform and I would say his greatest battles after the last eight plus years has been hell.
But it's also made it stronger and it's forced the public to wake up.
I've learned a lot.
He's learned a lot.
Trump's learned a lot.
We're in this together.
But nothing sharp and steel like steel.
That which does not kill you only makes you stronger.
And we've been through a psychological war, a bio war.
It's amazing.
So we only have him for about 25 minutes.
I'm going to try to give him the floor.
I get goosebumps, sir, that we've turned the tide.
Now I believe it's ours to lose, but we better understand we have won the major battles, but the war has not yet been won.
Is that an accurate statement in your view, sir?
michael flynn
Absolutely.
One of the times that I came on your show and spoke to your audience was right after the election.
And I said that we cannot declare victory over Europe was the metaphor that I used to kind of describe what we had just...
Trump won in this monumental mandate victory that President Trump won.
And there was a sense of euphoria and everybody felt good, but this is just the beginning.
And now what we're seeing, as an example, I want people to understand, Trump put out a thing today, I think, where all of these different uses of he, him, she, they, whatever, all that's got to end in all the name.
The naming conventions for all the people that are serving in government as of 5 o'clock today.
One of the things that I have learned in the last probably two weeks is a lot of these bureaucratic offices that have been these offices of diversity, equity, and inclusivity, these DEI offices, what they are doing is they're subtly changing their names.
Just to give you an example, inside the Department of Defense, there are 16 other what they call agencies, activities, and commissions.
And these other 16 just inside the Department of Defense, never mind the four big services, the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine Corps, these are businesses.
These are giant components that have anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 to 30,000 people with budgets that range from a billion to about $15 billion.
That's 16 small, you know, small, mid-sized, large-scale businesses inside the Department of Defense.
So the scale of the bureaucracy that Donald Trump, Pete Haag, Seth, in this case, in the example of the Department of Defense, that they have to deal with to try to, you know, now we're, you know, we have like a horse, like trying to break a wild horse.
And this wild horse, you know, this wild horse is one that has been running roughshod.
Frankly, for eight years of Obama, we all witnessed what happened during the first Trump administration, as many good things as Donald Trump did.
And then we had four years of Biden, and God knows, we're going to learn more about whether or not Biden was in charge of anything, because one of the things that I'm going to take on with a group of people is going after these 8,000 pardons that they did, you know, to see if the man was even clear-headed when he signed off on him.
If he wasn't, then that's a different story.
What's happening is inside the bureaucracy, there's a lot of sort of, you know, deception going on within the deep state.
And I will keep saying this, Alex, that had President Trump not won this election, he'd be in prison right now for the rest of his life.
As much as President Trump is trying to be benevolent...
And he's trying to make sure that he's working across the aisles.
He's trying to work with these people and trying to get our country back up to where we are, the world leader again, because the Chinese are all over the map right now.
And the Chinese have infiltrated into our country because I do, you know, in some of the time that I have today, I want to speak to Panama because Secretary Rubio, Secretary of State Rubio is going down there.
So I do want to speak to the Panama Canal because you know I've been talking about the Panama Canal for years.
And the importance of it.
So for your audience and for the people that will follow this, there are elements, and particularly the White House, those that listen to this broadcast, there are organizations inside of the United States government right now in the executive branch of the United States government that were the offices of DEI, and sometimes they call them the Office of Talent or Talent Management.
Clearly, they're underneath the Human Resources Directorates.
Those offices are just, they're shifting and changing names.
The people are still going to be in there.
They're going to lay low.
They're going to stay quiet.
They're going to provide white papers as to what they cannot do, back up the chain of command.
These are large organizations.
You need to know the people that are taking over these agencies, these activities, these departments, particularly at the secretary level, they need to know that they are up against, we're up against the clock.
And we're up against a body of people that have been so embedded.
One of the reports that I got about a week and a half ago was that we think that there's around 2,000 people that were put into the government in different departments that have been put into different components of the different departments, about 2,000, that are both tied to Obama, because Obama is still the guy.
Don't mistake anything.
This is not a transition from the Biden administration.
Obama was running the Biden administration for years.
Actually, Obama was in charge of the takedown of President Trump, 45, and Obama has been running the...
alex jones
I mean, let's be clear, General, you're talking about stay-behind networks when they were officially still in charge.
michael flynn
I've been told as many as 2,000.
That's right.
Stay-behind networks, infiltrators into the government to basically block and tackle, so strategically block and tackle, and to undermine, in this case, President Trump, and to do everything that they can.
And these are trained activists inside of the government.
They are now in government positions, so they're not in appointed positions where you can go in and just immediately remove them.
And I do believe the kinds of things that we're seeing Trump do is a complete reformation of the civil service system.
He also has the full authority, the President of the United States has the full authority to remove every senior executive, every senior intelligence executive, every defense intelligence executive.
Those are called DICELs.
It's an acronym form, D-I-S-L. He can remove every HQE, which is a highly qualified expert that came in under the Biden administration.
And in fact, anybody that was hired post the election, all of those have a grace period where they're sort of in a testing period, whether they're worthy or not, whether they're able to stay in.
All of those should be put on hold.
And all those individuals, in many cases, Especially the ones that were more senior, that were put into specific positions, they're going to need to be removed.
They should be told, thank you, you're going to go home.
We're not going to continue with your hiring action.
alex jones
And in general, we also saw the inspector general of one of the big agencies, the USDA, refusing to leave and having been removed.
Trump's, as you know, he's already fired some of the people.
Also, where they just changed the name of the offices.
But these are spy networks.
These are illegitimate.
These are disruptors.
They will also not just leak, but leak fake information.
But mixing in with information they're able to get to make it look real.
These are saboteurs.
And if we're going to be successful, they've got to be completely purged.
Yeah.
michael flynn
So, you know, I was listening to Cash Patel's great testimony yesterday, basically.
It was great confirmation.
You know, I would expect him to be, you know, in the seat here, hopefully by the COB today, by the close of business today, so he can get to work in the FBI. But one of the things that I am convinced of, and I know some of the areas, and we've already started to do some work on this, but we have a significant...
This is kind of what you're talking, what you're getting at here, Alex.
We have a significant counterintelligence and espionage program going on inside of the federal government.
Some of that is also over in Congress, and clearly it's something that affects the judiciary of our country, but we definitely have it in the executive branch.
A counterintelligence, meaning spies that are adversarial in nature, or espionage, meaning people that are conducting subversion.
And some form of treason inside of our government right now.
So, you know, we know that when we say the left or the Democrat Party, this is really a Marxist movement inside the United States of America and has been going on for a long time.
alex jones
And, you know, just to interrupt you as you get on, none of this is your opinion.
We know about Crossfire Hurricane that you and others were illegally targeted, which Obama was running.
Now we're learning about a bunch of other ones.
This just broke because...
The head of the Intelligence Committee brought it out.
Art Dick Frost, the FBI, directly under orders of Obama, day one targeting you, Trump, and everybody else, and ongoing for years.
This is criminal bullshit.
michael flynn
Yeah, it is criminal bullshit.
It's not just corruption.
I want your audience.
I want America.
I want the world to know that we've caught these people.
We know who they are.
And so this is not just corrupt actors trying to fill their pockets with money.
Money is a part of it.
Power is the bigger part.
This is a complete ideological shift that these people wanted the United States of America to take, meaning go towards this idea of this Marxism.
They're linked very closely to the globalists.
You've covered this extensively and in depth.
And expertly for your audience.
So, you know, this audience knows that.
But this movement has not dissipated.
All they do, like good little Marxists do, they start to, they basically subvert into the, within the government, in our case, into the executive branch principally, and they go into kind of a covert level.
And they begin to run operations covertly at a sort of leadership level for them.
Obama is still in the mix.
People like John Brennan, still in the mix.
People like Jim Clapper, those are the names that we know.
The 51, right?
The 51 that had their clearances suspended.
It's actually 58, because there's another seven on that list whose names never were released, and they're going to have to go after them.
But these people are still, they're still part of what is going on in Washington, D.C. to continue to subvert.
The ability for Donald Trump to do the things that he's trying to do, and what I want the American people to do, and it goes back to social media, and thank God we have X as a means to be able to communicate, and we tap into what I call digital soldiers, or what we know as the citizens.
alex jones
It's a major launch pad to develop force multiplication and HUMAT in the general population, which is now happening.
michael flynn
One of the names that doesn't come up all that often is Mike Hayden.
Mike Hayden.
He's another general.
U.S. Air Force Mike Hayden, former director of the National Security Agency and former director of the Central Intelligence Agency.
The intelligence community, which Tulsi Gabbard is going to have to get in there and she's going to have to mix it up, but the intelligence community is the fourth branch of government, which is not supposed to be the case.
The lead intelligence component within that Branch of government is the Central Intelligence Agency.
The person that continues to run that organization is John Brennan.
I know Ratcliffe is in there now.
He's been confirmed.
You know, he's starting to mix it up a little bit.
But John Brennan is still the sort of, and I've been very public about this, you know, and it comes at risk.
But this guy is out there pointing into the spear, running the operations, and he is subverting.
He's subverting this president.
As I speak right now, and he knows it.
alex jones
By the way, let me just back you up.
It's not just that you're the former Defense Intelligence Agency, National Security Advisor.
I watched Brennan in 2018-19 in meetings on C-SPAN with all the former spy chiefs, and they were addressing him as really...
The shadow government, leader of the resistance.
I mean, he clearly is the top dog.
He's committed so many crimes.
I mean, it would take hours.
I don't even know about him.
Doesn't Trump just, obviously, doesn't Kosh and all the rest of them know we need to go on offense.
These people need to be indicted.
That's how we'll shut down their networks is to cut the head off politically.
michael flynn
Yeah.
So, and again, back to what I just said about counterintelligence and espionage ongoing inside of our government, inside the executive branch of government.
And it's happening from the FBI. It's happening from the CIA. And it's actually happening from inside of the Department of Defense.
And these are very serious accusations.
These are very serious things that I'm saying.
And this is where there's going to have to be some time and some effort and some real imagination spent going after these networks.
Because they're not just one person that, you know, is in a really critical job.
You know, director of operations or something.
These are now networks that have been put in place, and it started under Obama.
They've strengthened it underneath Biden.
They had to get rid of Trump, right?
They really had to get rid of Trump.
That's why, you know, when you talked about at the beginning, you know, a little over four years ago when we first met and we talked about, you know, what we are going to have to do in these past four years to work our tails off.
You know, I've been to, I think it's close to over 400 towns and cities in this country over the last four years.
Trying to wake people up to get them to understand this is not just Democrats versus Republicans anymore.
These are two competing ideologies, and whether or not we're going to continue to have the United States of America under this beautiful thing we call the Constitution.
And we can do that, but we have to recognize that President Trump is one man.
He's going to have competing priorities every single day.
We just saw this deadly...
The tragedy of the aircraft getting hit by this helicopter, you know, the other night, those kinds of things pop up.
It automatically, it immediately takes the attention away from what you need to, you know, you know you need to be doing, but it takes time.
And it's sad, the tragic, you know, and the souls that were sadly killed.
But I, and I still, I don't know, you know, more will come out of this, but on that specific tragic incident.
I felt immediately that something was not right.
And I think that we're going to continue to find out more and more about what's going on with this particular event because I've been on that helicopter many times.
I've been up and down at the Potomac many times.
My office as the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency is directly across from pattern 33, which is the flight pattern that comes in there.
You know, I've seen those kinds of occurrences.
alex jones
You only have limited time.
You can stay longer if you can, but I know you're very busy, but you want to spend time on that and stay longer.
I understand we only have about six, seven minutes left, and there's so much to hit.
Bottom line here, what you're saying is not your opinion.
They bragged about it.
It came out in the news that Obama had to stay behind networks.
They're still there.
Trump must remove them.
Or they will continue to engage in all sorts of sabotage.
michael flynn
This is not going to end.
This is not going to end.
And every time something comes out, so we can put, you know, Kash Patel, Pam Bondi, Pete Hegseth, Tulsi, we can put all these people at the heads of these organizations, but these are large organizations.
And the heads of those organizations, they need to take action, not wait for a 100-day plan.
We need to start taking action against these.
Civilian, and in some cases, military, but mainly civilian networks that exist inside of the bureaucracy, and they need to be gutted.
They really need to be gutted.
Pete Agseth was correct on his confirmation hearing when he talked about, you know, 40-some-odd four-stars, you know, when our military, you know, still needs to be raised back up to a higher standard.
And, you know, at the end of World War II, where we had, you know, tens of millions under arms, we only had...
I think seven four-stars.
So there's an imbalance, and Pete knows that.
When we talk about the civilian structure, there is an imbalance, and Pete's going to have to take care of that.
And a lot of that is not just the imbalance of the four-structure.
It's the type of people that are in there.
It's this cultural Marxism that has infiltrated into our country.
And here's where I want to jump in the time that I have left, if you don't mind.
China.
Because I want to talk about China.
China's irregular warfare, and you've talked about this a lot, and I actually had the privilege, whatever you want to call it, I met the two colonels, the two Chinese colonels in the late 90s who wrote the irregular warfare manual.
The Chinese are executing that manual.
They are in tune.
This has been 25 years of execution by the Chinese.
Here inside of the United States of America, it's destroy our education, you know, continue to really infiltrate into this country, but destroy our education system, destroy our health care system, you know, go after the raising of crime on our streets, you know, the cartels that they are working with.
So these are all the kinds of things that the Chinese have been doing.
And at the same time, the Chinese have been infiltrating into the executive branch of our government.
And they have people not only in the institutions of higher education, but they have people inside of the institutions of our government.
Congress, the judiciary, and clearly the executive branch.
And I'm not talking about, you know, Chinese that are on the job, although there are a few examples of that.
alex jones
We mean certified communist Chinese agents.
michael flynn
Exactly.
People that have, you know, sold their soul to the Chinese, okay?
Now, let's jump to Panama, because this is very critical, because we've got Greenland.
You know, Trump is so right.
Trump is so right as he is setting the stage to protect America from something that, you know, that we don't want to imagine, which is a potential world war.
alex jones
But he knows China has openly geared up, and Xi Jinping last year said, prepare for imminent war.
Trump is making the correct moves for Fortress America.
michael flynn
Yeah.
If the Chinese do not believe they can accomplish this without firing a shot, which is one of their goals, which is their main goal, right, accomplish the takeover of the United States of America through people like Obama, through people like some of the others that I mentioned, and working with them, then it's to surround us, okay?
Now, Secretary of State Rubio is so correct, and I think he said it last night or the day before, you know, in his analysis of what's going on in Panama.
So Panama is the most vital waterway in the world for the United States of America.
Seventy percent of our trade goes through there.
You know, the Chinese...
alex jones
It's also a land bridge for the UN NGO invasions of illegals.
michael flynn
It's huge.
And one of the things, if you pay very close attention, which I have been doing, to the various consulates and embassies down in the Caribbean, okay?
So it's not just Cuba.
You know, Cuba's there.
And of course, Trump put them back on the state sponsor of terrorists.
But it's also other...
Caribbean nations where the Chinese have started to come into and to take over.
And there's some very, very serious components of the Chinese military and Chinese intelligence services that have taken over the Caribbean.
So you have the Caribbean, you have Mexico, which they control.
Mexico is run by a communist leader right now, and there's going to have to be a lot of sort of coming to Jesus between Trump and that president down there.
You've got the Panama Canal, and then you have a whole series of And Trump's not just flexing our muscles for no reason.
alex jones
We're surrounded.
michael flynn
Exactly.
And I've been painting this picture for more than 10 years, actually.
And it's the growth of the Chinese in the Southern Hemisphere.
So as long as we're distracted.
And this is on purpose in many cases.
As long as we're distracted with all the craziness in the Middle East, Central Asia, which is Pakistan, Afghanistan, you know, Eastern Europe, which that war in Eastern Europe, we should not put another penny to that war in Eastern Europe.
alex jones
And just as you told Obama, which you actually listened to because you're a proven right, pivot to China.
Now we've got to understand, pivoting to China means pivoting to our own hemisphere.
I know you've got to go, but I want you to finish this.
We've got a two-minute break.
Can you do five more minutes on this and any other advice to Trump, the American people?
michael flynn
I will.
Yes, sir.
alex jones
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alex jones
what General Flynn was just saying, the National Pulse is reporting China just tried to overthrow a major Western national government in Spain, manipulating internal movements, and they are heavily involved in They've had their top generals on TV years ago saying, we're fomenting the left.
We want uprisings.
That's what Tampon Tim, literally a communist Chinese agent, was all about.
General Flynn, thank you for staying a few more minutes.
I wanted you to finish up about...
What a true pivot means.
You've been totally vindicated in the last few decades.
True visionary.
And what the American people can do.
And then I was talking during the break.
I said, what are you worried about?
And you said, well, you can say it in your own words, that we get too euphoric like eight years ago, and people don't realize this is existential still.
It's ours to lose.
General Flynn, four minutes.
michael flynn
Yeah, I mean, what I want people to understand is that, you know, we have a beautiful country.
We have a great leader right now in President Trump.
We had to work hard.
Everybody knows we had to work very hard to get him back into office.
Every single American pulled together that made a difference.
And we should feel good about what we were able to do because we defeated a coup attempt.
And it's without doubt.
So we defeated that.
Trump was able to withstand the body blows when he was President 45, and thank God that he had the wherewithal and the strength to say, once again, I'm going to put myself back into the fire, and I'm going to run again, and we won, right?
And the American people, we should feel rightly euphoric, as you use that word.
But here's where I'm at.
Where I'm at is that this is a complete...
You know, we have to be disciplined.
We have to understand that in order to maintain this beautiful country of ours, it's going to require sacrifice.
And everybody needs to know that there's competing ideologies.
Communism has always been at our front door.
But now what we have is we have this Marxist ideology.
When we say the left and the Democrats, it's Marxism, and it's Marxism inside of our government.
Principally inside of our government.
We know that they're in the institutions of the country, education, and the corporate world with all this DEI stuff, which is another way to infiltrate into the culture that we have here, our culture of patriotism.
So what I want people to know is that we all still have a responsibility.
And I will go back to my sort of call, which is local action equals a national impact.
So we are going to...
You know, we want Donald Trump to do all the things that he said he needs to do in order to get control of the executive branch of government.
I do want him to really take a hard look at his authorities to be able to remove people that need to be removed and to be able to reduce the size of the executive branch.
And that's what the whole Doge thing is about.
And we need to start to see some of that here in the next couple of days, the next couple of weeks, to see what kind of impact that's going to have.
And frankly, that's accountability.
I want, you know, and like I say, when I say I want, it's really in a collective sense, because I tell you, I get cards and letters every single day, and my going around this country over the last couple of weeks, what people want in this country is they want accountability of those who have committed these treasonous acts and tried to subvert our nation, and many of these people are still around.
It's one thing to just say, Suspend these clearances of these 51, it's actually 58. It's one thing to say that.
Now what we have to do is we have to go after some of these people who continue to subvert this administration, because they're still involved in companies and activities, and they still have these networks inside of the government.
And those people inside of the government, I can tell you, some of them are being told, go to ground, let's settle, let's, you know, let's...
You know, act appropriately for now.
alex jones
Play possum.
michael flynn
And then what we're going to do is we're going to come back up and we're going to rise again.
And they're going to do this.
So they're not gone.
I want folks to know that the Chinese have a big, big role in all of this.
The Chinese government has a huge role.
So I know we're getting ready to go to break and I do have to go.
I appreciate it, Alex.
I want people to continue to keep the pressure on.
Keep the pressure on.
This president, he loves it.
He needs it.
And he wants to do the right thing for this country.
I know that.
alex jones
General Flynn, thank you so much.
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We'll talk to you again soon.
God bless you, sir.
michael flynn
God bless.
Thanks.
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Wow.
Powerful.
Thank you so much.
We'll be right back.
The reason we're seeing so many victories against evil and tyranny right now is because humanity woke up to a certain extent.
But the bad guys are just waiting for us to go back to sleep.
You heard General Flynn earlier.
You know, Mickey Willis is a great filmmaker and made TV ads, music videos, you name it, back in Hollywood.
And he was a Bernie Sanders guy and one of their main media people until he got into the upper group of it, and they were all communist.
Communist lunchboxes, communist shirts.
They're like, no, we're Marxist.
And that's the operating system of the global issues around the world, but they're corporate fascist, technocrat, transhumanist above them.
But what's taught in the universities, because the big tax-free foundations want that, what the robber barons want, Going back to 120-something years ago when they started this movement, domestically, is communism.
So it's not a communist conspiracy.
The idiots thinking they're going to overthrow everything and collapse everything with Cloward and Piven is so they can build this new utopia and they'll be the administrators of it.
But the people above it, it's a totally different ballgame.
And so I'm going to do my best right now to go over all of this.
Trump understands that he's got to go on offense.
He understands that these are illegal private corporate intelligence agencies, many of them CIA, you name it, but with their trained operatives that aren't certified CIA or other groups, but they're contractors that work for them.
And as General Flynn said just 20-30 minutes ago, When he first came on, if you missed it, we're going to post it to X. It needs to be seen by a lot of people, and I'm sure it will.
It was powerful.
He explained, and he named who's running it, John Brennan.
That's the head guy.
And they admit that.
Previously when they thought they were invincible.
Oh, don't worry, we've got our people in there.
You know, the first time Trump won.
And there's nothing they won't do.
They'll start wars, they'll sabotage.
They've got major inroads and funding with the Islamic terrorists, both out of Iran and the Al-Qaeda ISIS groups.
That's why Brennan converted to Islam 30 years ago, so he could be part of those networks.
So, it's not about vengeance.
It's about justice and stopping them doing it again.
And what I've seen from Trump in the last 10 days, he understands he's got to be very fast moving.
And very brutal in his execution, constitutionally.
Because these are the people that tried to kill him.
And have directed the attacks on us and General Flynn and Roger Stone and everybody else.
So, this is a death battle.
This is a fight to the political death of our movement, Americana, or their movement.
The globalist, godless, satanic new world order.
Now there's Brennan.
Jihad is a holy struggle.
That was him back in 2010 saying that.
In a speech he publicly gave.
And then of course Obama triggered the Arab Spring and overthrew a bunch of pro-Western governments and put the worst people in.
And then went in and had a bunch of wars killing them.
And then had the UN go in and then open the borders to Europe up and brought them all in there.
Now you see why Biden, really Obama, really John Brennan, that's who called the shots, took Trump's six-month exit plan to get the $87 billion of weapons and equipment out of Afghanistan and just said, oh, we're evacuating in one day and have all this money and weapons.
And then they used it in Syria.
This is just pure evil.
So let's look at the geopolitical developments that are so important first.
U.S. Secretary of State calls for end of Ukraine war via negotiations.
General Flynn is very informed, extremely smart.
That's why he's been under such attack.
And he says Rubio has really been on board with Trump for a long time and now can be trusted and is on the team.
Okay, I'll take his word for it.
Well, Rubio is...
Explaining, we need to end this war with Russia yesterday, and China is the issue, and driving Russia into China's arms was horrible, and it needs to stop, and the Democrats and neocons are using the money, that's what he's saying right here, articles on enforce.com, to launder it back into their political operations.
Hell, they even sent somebody to kill Trump that was funded by that, as we predicted.
I said they'll use U.S. people that were trained in Ukraine through stay-behind network funding.
To run the attack.
I said, I would expect that.
So did Scott Bennett before he died.
Very smart.
So did General Flynn.
Months and months before that happened.
And so they got some serious terrorists.
Islamic terrorists.
US leftists trained in combat arms.
I mean, there's no telling what they might pull.
So while all this is going on, everyone is tired.
Crisis grows in Ukraine.
As army desertions accelerate, yeah, Ukraine, despite all the NATO weapons and advisors, has failed.
And so now NATO has said in the last week, and the deputy head of the Unelected EU Commission, well, we're still going to break up Russia.
So we're not just going to encircle them with weapons and troops.
We're going to break them up.
That is insanely provocative.
They've set up this northern group a few months ago saying, we don't care if Trump pulls out of NATO, or we'll just have NATO reconstitute under the northern group.
Under this new inter-country military agreement they've made, and we're going to continue the war with Russia.
So, Trump's talking about big tariffs on Europe if they do that.
And people say, well, Trump's really throwing his weight around.
What are we supposed to do?
They're trying to take a World War III that's already started, that's what this is, and take it to full, complete, total war.
That includes nuclear weapons.
So, China is overthrowing governments all over the world, trying to overthrow governments, trying to destabilize the West.
It was set up by the globalists.
Going back about 12 years ago, it double-crossed the globalists and said, no, we're taking over the world with your globalist model, but not you in charge.
And so, they've still got, though, their relationships with the Democrats and people like Mitch McConnell.
McConnell, him and his wife are CHICOM agents, and they have to be identified publicly, and they have to be ostracized, and the ones that can easily be proven to be operatives with China need to be put in prison immediately.
And as soon as they start indicting these people, just a few of them, the others are going to run like roaches when you turn the lights on.
So, that's a big deal.
U.S. Secretary of State calls for end of Ukraine war via negotiations.
But the dishonesty that has existed is that somehow led people to believe that Ukraine would be able to not just defeat Russia, but, you know, destroy them, put them all the way back to what the world looked like in 2014, Rubio said during an interview.
And he goes on to say, it's done, it's over.
You know, Europe and NATO think they can defeat Russia, break Russia up.
That's crazy.
Because they have nuclear weapons.
Czech foreign minister, look at this guy, looks like he couldn't find his ass with both hands or load a gun, but Czech foreign minister calls for continuing the Ukraine war.
And more statements about, oh, we'll defeat Russia itself and break them up.
Yeah, that's good.
Tell the Russians what...
George Soros, six, seven years ago, made the rounds on CNN, you name it.
He played the clips many times and said, I really will soon be the czar of Russia.
I will control it.
We're going to encircle them and then break them up.
Can you imagine if the Russian leaders were on TV saying, oh, we've encircled America and we're funding political groups to stabilize them and we're going to break up America.
You'd get pissed.
And it's poking them.
Come on, do something.
Do something.
Oh, now we're bombing with missiles.
Do something.
Come on.
Come on, do something.
Come on.
Do it.
And then it's people like this numbskull that are running around.
I mean, look at this guy.
I wonder what's on his hard drive.
I mean, these people are sick.
So, just a snapshot of what's happening with China.
On a telegraph, China is building the world's largest military command center 10 times bigger than the Pentagon.
China is building a new military command center near Beijing that is 10 times the size of the Pentagon, U.S. intelligence officials have said.
Settled out images of the base about 20 miles southwest of the Chinese capital show a 1,500-acre construction site that experts suggest could house reinforced military bunkers to protect the country's top military brass in the case of a nuclear war.
Well, they're not even denying that.
When complete, the facility nicknamed Beijing Military City is expected to dwarf the Pentagon, the U.S. Defense Headquarters, which is known as the world's largest office block.
And there's images there in the article.
We can actually pull up the HD article and show everybody that.
Then we've got this.
China just tried to overthrow a major Western nation.
A Chinese-backed spam-a-flage operation.
Posing as Spanish nationals sought to use the catastrophic flooding that hit Valencia, Spain in October to instigate the overthrow of the country's government.
Disguising themselves as safeguard defenders and allegedly based in Spain's capital, Madrid, the Chinese agents were active from November through January on Facebook, Blue Sky, TikTok, you name it.
The social media accounts comprised by Chinese operatives posing as Westerners Posted the amplified content critical of both Spain's central government and Madrid of Carlos Mazzan.
And again, called for people to overthrow the government.
China's linked influence operation tried to overthrow Spain's government.
Absolutely.
That's what they're doing.
So, that's the type of stuff going on.
Now, I'm not hesitating because of lack of news.
I am hesitating because there's too much news.
I mean, let me just give you a few little snapshots here.
Senator Grassley, the head of the Intelligence Committee, just released the Arctic Frost secret Obama Stay Behind Network plan to put Trump and all of his administration and supporters, literally, in prison under orders of a president that wasn't even in power,
And then after they stole the election and continued on, they have all the documents with the FBI senior people ordering the setup of Trump and everybody else.
So you're not supposed to have the FBI going and then running the prosecution.
They go out and supposedly find crime, show the evidence, and then they go to the Justice Department.
But it was just direct to them.
You go out and you put Trump and his supporters in prison.
That's what J6 and the branding of all that was about.
Oh, we're terrorists.
Oh, we're going to kill everybody.
And you have former CIA people and others on MSNBC and CNN going, we need to not just put Trump in prison.
We need Homeland Security's main role to be crushing MAGA once he's in prison and dismantling them and disrupting them.
That's what a coup does once it takes over central government is it then goes out and suppresses any counterinsurgency.
Counter-offensives.
That's what communists do.
So when Flynn explains to you, as a former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, that this isn't a game, people.
And we have to get them off balance.
Trump, Kosh Patel, all of them.
The new Attorney General Bondi, it is constitutional.
And it is about survival.
We are in a WAR all caps with 15 exclamation points.
So, everybody out there thinking we won.
Yeah, culturally we won.
But we haven't dug them out yet.
So, these DEI programs are the equivalent of the Spanish or other inquisitions, these DEI programs are the equivalent of the Spanish or other inquisitions, the Catholic Church, where they're there to keep control of the church and the people, and they have
and then they go out and accuse people of all these wokeism crimes so they can be targeted and removed for purges.
And they also operate as the deep state's network still within the government.
And Flynn just got into that.
So Trump's made a good start here getting rid of these inspector generals and getting rid of these different department heads.
And now we've got senior FBI leaders ordered to retire, resign, or be fired by Monday.
And it's all the different neocon and leftist leaders and the ones that ran all these criminal operations.
Cash Patel vows to dismantle child sex trafficking rings and expose Jeffrey Epstein's client list.
We're going to get to that clip.
22 in a moment.
Six out of seven executive assistant directors and 25 special agents in charge out at FBI according to FBI whistleblower.
I love that Trump's already announced it, but they call it a whistleblower.
Trump continues cleaning out deep state, firing FBI officials promoted by corrupt ex-director Wray.
Yeah, anybody they liked, anybody they put in, Just fire them.
They all sat around, even if they weren't bad, all of them, and they were at the top.
They go from bad to worse.
They sat around and went along with this.
Purge them!
This is life and death, people.
This isn't a game.
Look at this.
FBI still stalling and refuses to turn over Seth Rich records.
The information could take down Democrat Party for a generation.
And I tell you, man, man, I got just a dramatic footage of Senator Grassley showing the secret documents and how the FBI illegally targeted Trump and his administration when he was in and then when he was out.
Well, I mean, we got him to testify on the stand at the fake Sandy Hook show trial two plus years ago in Connecticut.
They wanted to talk about it.
They put the head counsel of the state FBI on.
And he said, I went and organized these lawsuits, and then we learned, it came out, CIA, went to the FBI, went and cooked it all up, ran PR firm, garbage for years, I did all these things I didn't do, raised money off using my face saying I was persecuting people for Bloomberg's gun control groups.
They do it at every level.
Then had show trials where I was already found guilty.
You know how much money they probably spent?
They admit 326 million two months ago in court.
In court filings.
Because we've sued them.
And we're getting all the discovery.
Thousands of pages of days coming in.
And I got people going over it all.
And boy, we find some interesting things.
Real bad.
Real bad.
And I've been asked not to release it yet.
We filed for an emergency hearing today that's going on right now in federal court in Houston.
Just to tee up hearings and investigations on that.
And you better believe that the packages are being prepared for the Justice Department.
And I'm going to leave it right there.
So I'm not just here exposing the globalists and getting you to expose them.
That's important work.
I'm fighting at point.
Blank range against these people.
We're going to go to break in a few minutes.
I'm going to come back and go through all this and these incredible clips.
And the key to bringing them down is going for the pedophile rings.
Because that's in all these agencies and all these groups.
And we have them dead to rights with the smuggled kids.
And we know where they are now, most of them.
And what they did with them.
And it's incoming.
It's imminent.
You're already seeing a lot of it.
But it's going to get wild, and this is going to just...
If you think the public hates the left and hates the Democrats and the deep state now, wait.
So Trump understands.
He's not holding back.
This is beyond spectacular.
But the enemy is so scared right now.
Oh, my God.
They'll do anything they think they can get away with, including nuking Trump and saying the Iranians did it with a suitcase nuke.
All right, we're going to go to break here in a few minutes.
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General Flynn named names and said Obama through John Brennan, and it's all documented, are running an illegal criminal spy operation and sabotage operation against America and are going to try to criminally derail the Trump administration and the American people's agenda.
And we know they did it with Crossfire Hurricane and what Senator Grassley exposed for the first time yesterday, Operation Arctic Frost, which he said is completely illegal on his face.
It is absolutely illegal.
Now, you have to address it for what it is.
Stay behind networks.
The former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency telling you this is the main danger.
These guys will smuggle a new kid and kill Trump if they can.
I'm telling you.
And Flynn called him out.
He said, these are very serious accusations, but they're true.
And they are.
I was the first in early 2017 to just do research on their network.
And remember CNN, New York Times, Alex Jones falsely tells Trump that the CIA is running an illegal operation against him.
Well, they were.
We got the name Crossfire Hurricane.
And I became enemy number one for a while because of that, because Trump called me all the time.
I'd say, sir, you know Fiona Hill's on the board of George Soros' foundation.
No.
Yes.
Sir, you know this person, that person.
Of course, everybody else knew it.
They were just scared to tell him.
Flynn told him.
They had died at his ass.
So this isn't a game, people.
That interview is going up in mere minutes at Real Alex Jones.
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In fact, wait.
I was just during the break in there giving him the headline.
Probably already uploaded it.
Go ahead.
That's already fired out.
That's fine.
But I want Wilson to take what I just said in the intro here.
And throw a little piece of that up front so people understand what they're about to hear.
Most of our Flynn interviews get 50 million views on X alone now.
And then they get put everywhere else.
I can't even keep track of it.
100 million, conservatively.
This is devastating.
The president watches the show.
His people, his cabinet people watch.
He was watching the other night and gave me and Roger a call.
My Wednesday night, a special show.
Doing a special show tomorrow, noon to 2 p.m.
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That's because time is of the essence here.
So when I tell you the devastating effect you're having sharing the information, again, it's not a pat on the back.
It's letting you know how important you are, damn it.
Alright, there's so many angles, so much to hit, so much to go through.
Let me just put my head down and start going over it.
When you look at the globalists and the UN and Mayorkas and the open borders and the human trafficking and the human smuggling and the child sex slavery and the murders and All of it.
It's all part of the same agenda.
And when Kosh Patel, what I told you last week, as soon as he's confirmed, they are releasing the full Epstein list.
It's already been ordered to by Trump.
And Patel went on.
It's like a 10-minute response, but we'll play a few minutes of it here.
Full things on InfoWars.com.
Real Alex Jones.
To say that we're going after the networks.
The NGOs, U.S. government officials, everybody.
You've heard Trump.
You've heard Homan.
It's not just the right thing to do.
And we've got to save and rescue the children.
And we've got to prosecute those so they can never do it again.
And as a message to others, that open season on our children and other children is over.
It will bring them down.
It will bring them down.
Down, down, down, down.
Epstein list is coming.
Senator Blackburn calls out Democrats at Kash Patel confirmation hearing.
It got brought up like seven times I've seen.
So when I say, I'm going to show a short clip, you want to go see it all.
In fact, let's do this.
Rob Dew's doing such a great job.
Everybody is so energized by Trump.
I don't even have to push the crew to work 18 hours a day.
Dew is working 18 hours a day, maybe 20. The other night we worked about 19 together.
I want to take all the Kosh Patel questions and answers about human trafficking and Jeffrey Epstein.
Let's put them together in one clip.
I think it'll probably just what I've seen is 15 minutes.
I've seen one clip that's 10. But I mean, because this isn't talk.
I mean, this is putting the globalist political head in the guillotine and raising the blade up.
And when they release it, it's flipping the switch.
I'll find and name Epstein's accomplices.
That's yesterday.
So, it makes me actually catch my breath because this is real.
I mean, this is not just kicking the living hell out of the New World Order.
This continues.
This is the equivalent politically, non-violently, of taking a giant...
Ten-inch dagger, double-edged, razor-sharp, and just plunging it into the heart of him.
Fifty times.
I mean, this is Count Dracula, and you got the stake, and you're hammering it in.
And Trump's already put the stake on their heart and already hit it once, and it went in about an inch, and it's through the ribcage now, and the next hit, it goes into Dracula's heart.
And so I'm just sitting here, and Van Helsing just drove the steak through the ribcage, and it went boop, and one more, it goes home.
So if you're not on the edge of your seat right now, and if you're not concerned they're going to do a cyber attack and knock the power out or something, or blow up a nuclear reactor, I mean, the list goes on and on, you're not paying attention.
I don't need to...
Hype things up here, because we're living in a time of insane change, opportunity and danger.
So say your prayers a little extra, please.
I know I am.
Here's one of the exchanges with the cash yesterday in the hearing.
unidentified
And I know that breaking up these trafficking rings is important to President Trump.
So will you work with me?
On this issue, so we know who worked with Jeffrey Epstein in building these sex trafficking rings.
Absolutely, Senator.
Child sex trafficking has no place in the United States of America.
And I will do everything, if confirmed as FBI director, to make sure the American public knows the full weight of what happened in the past and how we are going to counterman missing children and exploited children going fjord.
alex jones
So let's zoom in now to a microcosm of what's happening.
And again, the reason I hesitate is just Chicago's so bad, every day I see 50, 60 reports of just hellish stuff going on.
And then you see the crazy communist mayor and the evil governor, Pritzker, going, we're going to resist, we're going to fight back, we're not going to let you...
Do that.
These are innocent people.
They're not criminals.
They're criminals being here.
But the ones they're releasing out of jail before Trump got in on purpose and saying, oh, so Trump can't get them.
Now they're going to change their names to hide their identities?
That's what you give spies and people in the Justice Department's Witness Protection Program.
I got articles out of Germany today where they're spending $40,000 a month to have security for Afghan killers and rapists.
And they go, well, we can't put them in jail.
We can't kick them out of the country.
So they get everything paid for and that government provides security to make sure they don't hurt anybody.
What?
I mean, you think $50 million of condoms for Gaza is crazy or shrimp on treadmills?
Or was it $25 million to study transgenders in Afghanistan?
You know what?
Before I get to this, because it all fits together, here is Hakeem Jeffries, who is the leader now of the Democratic Party.
He's the House Democrat leader.
He's more important than even Chuckie Schumer now.
And he's the guy that tells you what they're planning.
And just listen to him.
They're the ones saying, we're calling for violence.
They're the ones saying, oh, mostly peaceful, and go out and confront everybody, and we need to beat up Trump.
Somebody needs to kill this guy, former CIA operative Phil Mudd said.
Remember?
But that's in the past.
This is him yesterday, and the Trump administration's called for his apology.
Here it is.
unidentified
We are going to fight it.
Legislatively, we are going to fight it.
In the courts, and we're gonna fight it in the streets.
alex jones
That is not even a veiled threat.
So, what did they say if Trump won in 2020 and they couldn't steal it?
Uprisings, race-based uprisings, have blue states secede, blue cities.
Civil War.
What did they say, Jamie Raskin and Carville and all of them?
If Trump won this time, they'd wait?
Till Trump kills migrants, meaning they're going to have a false flag.
Trump's going to kill migrants.
No, he's not.
They're going to wait till demonstration.
They're already happening.
Somebody's going to mow them down or do a truck bomb or something like that.
And then say Trump did it.
They activate their Islamic cells, communist cells, anti-missiles, illegal alien drug cartel cells.
And they just start shooting and burning the country down.
And when Trump calls out the military, you have all these governors and mayors saying we're going to resist it.
Governor Pritzker, we're going to defend these migrants who are legal, which they're not.
We're going to fight for them, as the mayor said a few days ago in Chicago.
That's a chilling statement.
It's only 10 seconds long.
Play it three times for people, just back to back.
Here's the leader of the Democrats and the House of Representatives, Hakeem Jeffries.
Here he is.
unidentified
We are going to fight it.
Legislatively, we are going to fight it in the courts, and we're going to fight it in the streets.
We are going to fight it.
Legislatively, we are going to fight it in the courts, and we're going to fight it in the streets.
We are going to fight it.
Legislatively, we are going to fight it in the courts, and we're going to fight it in the streets.
alex jones
This is a bunch of big foreign banks and intelligence agencies and...
The systems, Hollywood, all of it, here to conquer America.
Because they get us, they get the world.
And they almost had it, but people woke up.
But we haven't defeated them completely yet.
We've got to recognize that these rats, these evil, globalist scumbags, these human trafficking enablers, look at that guy.
Look at those eyes.
Just look at that egomaniac, megalomaniacal demon.
He knows damn well they ran Jan 6. He knows damn well everything they're doing.
He knows damn well they got millions of kids enslaved, not just the ones the government openly released and covered up.
325,000 in the last report.
And when you're looking at these people, you need to understand who you're looking at.
You're looking at Evo, Adam Schiff, Liz Cheney, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton.
But here's why they're demoralized.
They know there's no putting the genie back in the bottle.
It'll be rough if they keep pushing.
It'll be rougher for them in the end.
But see, they can't help but keep fighting.
Because they've committed so many crimes.
And they got so many people to keep paying off.
See, once they lose power, all their little minions and buddies start blackmailing them.
So see, for them, this is about survival.
So they were going to destroy us.
That's their plan.
So we don't have a choice but fight them.
But then when we fight them, they're going to fight even harder.
Even though it'll destroy them in the end.
So nobody's going to stop.
It's not going to just wake up and it's all okay.
But at least we're going to win.
Wouldn't you rather be in that position?
But you've got to understand, the fight just started.
And we will win.
This is sure as the sun came up this morning and will set this evening.
If people understand this is a normal election, this is a global political realignment with the bad guys thinking they'd never be out of power and they're...
Yesterday when the main conservative party that's been globalist forever in Germany voted with AFD in a new parliamentary alliance because AFD is in total ascension and then Merkel comes out of retirement and says...
We need Parliament to ban AFD and kick them out of the government.
That's not just suspending the upcoming election they're talking about because they're going to win, but we're just going to kick you out of government.
That's a coup.
And then the other big party said, well, no, no, we're not going to do that.
And Merkel and Olaf came out, Schultz, and said, oh, we'll just ban you too.
That's what you call losing.
Forcing themselves, showing their tyranny.
The EU Commission saying, yeah, we're unelected, and yeah, we suspended the winner of the Romanian election, and we'll do it in Germany too if AFD wins.
Power is slipping through their fingers because we're forcing them out in the open.
We forced them to steal 2020. We're forcing them.
Now to fight for their political lives.
And as long as we understand what we're doing, every day that goes by, the last bits of their political will drain out onto the ground.
But at such a moment, you got to look around you.
And you've got to understand, they've got a few nasty tricks, more than a few, up their dirty pedophile sleeves.
All right, let's get moving there, because I've got a lot to hit.
Illinois Democrats to allow illegals to change their names to evade ICE. They have a bill about to be signed by Pritzker.
That allows ones included who have committed major crimes to change their names and then supposedly not put it in a federal database.
That's fraud.
That's illegal.
Look at this story.
Kidnapped migrant woman executed in Chicago Alley.
And then you learn in the article, no, they actually, it's WGNS9 News, they actually killed two of them.
They were sex slaves, reportedly, trying to get away, so they executed two and critically wanted another in an alley.
Two of them were killed, and the third critically wanted one, which Chicago authorities believe was an execution of foreign women who've been kidnapped, according to reports.
Boy, doesn't that sound horrible.
Here's another one.
Major update.
Exploding Chicago murder scandal.
It's so horrible.
Read this article.
Torture people to death.
Sweden moles deporting inmates from gang-overflowing prisons.
Yeah?
Think so?
Dangerous Afghan cannot be deported from Germany.
Requires 24-7 private security for 40,000 euros a month.
This is a snapshot today.
Iraqi on trial for raping 82-year-old German.
80% of refugees on vacation to the country they fled.
Elon Musk.
Sweden, 79% of refugees on vacation to the country they fled.
It's all bull.
And it goes on.
And on and on.
All right.
Thank you.
I've just scratched the surface.
I got a bunch of victories, a bunch of dismantling the deep state, a bunch of economic news.
Oh, they're now hoarding gold.
Government and banks aren't hiding it.
Big scandal there.
I mean, this is getting totally cuckoo.
Oh, and then some gigantic, over-the-top COVID news.
This is going to blow you away, this video.
In fact, I'll hit that at 6 after next hour.
Then we'll look at this crazy gold development.
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Look at this baby in my hand.
That's a breacher.
That's a Bowie knife.
That is just badass made in America by our wonderful hillbilly friends.
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I guess I'm Southern Arkansas.
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It'll take you long to get into it all, but today is the day we're launching the third off-road vehicle.
So I'll give you a first look at that right now, then we'll come back with our number three and four.
Jay Dyer's got major breaking news coming up in the fourth hour.
We'll be right back with our number three.
Please stay with us.
Ladies and gentlemen, we're about to make two big announcements.
First off, next Wednesday in studio, we're going to give away our second big sweepstakes winner on the incredible Ford Tremor turbo diesel super off-road truck.
And we're also launching the third big sweepstakes.
And showing you this amazing off-road SUV that I really want for myself, but one of you is going to be getting it.
So let's walk over here right now.
Look at these bad boys.
So there's the Ford Tremor.
It hasn't been cleaned because that's part of the sweepstakes.
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I didn't tear it up, don't worry.
And then we got this bad boy.
So next Wednesday, the winner of that super truck is going to be in studio.
And in a few months, we lose every two months, We'll be giving this away to somebody.
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chase geiser
All right.
Here I am with Prepper All Naturals Original Steak.
This has a shelf life of a minimum of 10 years, but if stored properly, 25 years.
And we are going to prepare to see if it tastes good because Alex said that he will not plug it unless it tastes good.
And it's just a bunch of steak bites.
It's supposed to be 12 servings per pack, which I assume is 12 meals.
And after this water's boiling, we'll pour it over and let it sit for 12 minutes and we'll taste it.
And we'll be honest with you.
If it tastes bad, you'll never see the video.
You can rehydrate hot, which is what we're doing, because it sounds more appetizing, or you can rehydrate cold.
By refrigerating, submerge portion in cool water for eight hours.
Now, this only takes 12 minutes, so I don't know who would ever do the second option, especially in the apocalypse.
unidentified
What if you used all of your gasoline to power your car out of the city, and now you don't have any fuel to start a fire?
Have you ever thought about that?
I don't know.
harrison smith
I'm looking for the ingredients.
chase geiser
The ingredients are just steak.
unidentified
So it's just steak?
harrison smith
Yes.
unidentified
It's good until 2049, according to the bag.
When we started the Alex Jones store, I told you guys, hey, we gotta have proper food.
harrison smith
Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Are you gonna eat some steak?
Are you gonna eat some steak?
chase geiser
So it says in the instructions to get it to a near boil.
harrison smith
We got it to a full boil.
chase geiser
Put the lid on it.
unidentified
Boom.
harrison smith
Imagine you're traveling, but you're meat-based.
What are you gonna do when you get to the hotel late at night and nothing's open?
Kettle of water.
Throw these bad boys in.
unidentified
That's a home-cooked meal, brother.
harrison smith
How we doing, Chase?
unidentified
Doing great.
Hell yeah.
chase geiser
We took off the lid to make sure that it was all submerged, and it smells really good.
harrison smith
When you're on an airplane, what you do is you order tea, but you say don't steep it.
unidentified
Cook this up in the bathroom.
That's a home-cooked meal.
harrison smith
That's a home-cooked meal right there.
All right, folks, the year 2045. You've been eating nothing but shoes and dryer lint for the last 12 months.
When you stumble upon the ruins of a once-great city, Austin, Texas, and there, the headquarters of Infowars, you find a stash of prepper, all-natural sous-vay beef, and this is the longest 12 minutes of your life.
Moment of truth.
chase geiser
All right, 12 minutes is up.
unidentified
I didn't know how much water to put into it because it doesn't say, so I'm going to strain this.
chase geiser
But it looks like it's hydrated.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
chase geiser
It's like steak texture.
harrison smith
Mm, looks good.
chase geiser
That looks like real meat.
unidentified
All right.
chase geiser
Yeah, it's like real steak.
Pretty good!
unidentified
All we did was hydrate this stuff and put a little bit of salt and pepper on it.
chase geiser
So I know a lot of you guys out there actually know how to make the steak, but this will do in a survival situation or a major storm if you can't go to the grocery store for a couple of these.
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
I actually enjoyed it.
harrison smith
Here's the situation.
We did this bare minimum way, just boiling water, 12 minutes, bare minimum.
I have the feeling, actually, if you dress this up, if you boiled this in some broth, added a little razzmatazz to it, this would actually be very delicious.
It's not bad.
It tastes like jerky, but you're not buying, you know, a top-line Wagyu here.
You're buying something for survival or for storage, because...
Let's face it.
At this point, everybody should recognize it doesn't take the apocalypse to maybe need some storable food.
Maybe a disaster here or there might leave you in the lurch.
You're not going to want to be without protein.
This stuff is really not bad at all.
I think if you dress it up, it'd be great.
And if you're going to eat it off the shelf, then you can dress it up.
And if you're going to be in the apocalypse, you're not going to care how it tastes.
But it's still pretty damn good.
chase geiser
And, weight too, so if you're one of those preppers that believes in the importance of mobility...
You can carry tons of this stuff with you for a long period of time.
harrison smith
You don't want to be hauling around cans, folks.
Nobody wants to haul around cans in the apocalypse.
You want something free-dried, nice and light.
light is what astronauts eat on the moon.
unidentified
That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.
alex jones
All right, I'm going to cover so much in this third hour today.
I wanted in this little short segment to look at Caroline Levitt's stunning takedown of GMA's Michael Strahan earns her another nickname.
Now, the reason this clip's important is it shows on display the arrogance of saying, we can't have government workers, government scientists having to come into work, but then everybody else does.
And the statistics vary, but around half the federal employees go in maybe once a week.
A large percentage don't go in but a few times a month.
And most of them have another job, and they lie about that, and that's illegal.
It's fraud.
And this whole house of cards, this con game, where the left and the corporate media is the moral authority, and two men can have a baby, and there's no XY chromosomes, and illegal aliens aren't illegal.
And you're supposed to use all the pronouns and weird, politically correct language we want?
That's a cult.
And so she just says to him, what are you talking about?
It's so easy when you just stop paying lip service to them.
So the trance is breaking.
It's not completely broken on everybody, but overall, it's done.
But folks all the time...
I see it constantly, not even looking for it, saying, you know, look at Joe Rogan.
He says he's for free speech.
But these Gavin McGinnis and Alex Jones and a bunch of other interviews from his archive that he transferred over to Spotify four years ago aren't available.
Well, Joe told me what happened, and he wasn't off record, and I've talked about it a few times, but no one ever seems to care.
And that goes into what's happening over at Facebook.
Look at this.
They're getting rid of the cult.
It was a control system.
Meta staffers revolt over tampons removal from men's rooms, show up with their own, and they're sabotaging things.
They're doing sit-ins all over the tampons in the men's bathrooms.
This is a cult.
Now, Spotify is in Sweden, the technical systems, but its main offices for administration and for content is in New York.
And Joe told me that more than half the staff are transgender.
They're a bunch of crazy men.
And that they kept deleting episodes and even new ones he did when he first went to Spotify.
He almost had to leave.
Then they had like a truce with them and they were doing stuff like shitting on the floor.
Okay?
Just breaking everything.
So they throw temper tantrums and now it's come out that the man that thought he was a woman that was coming to firebomb and kill everybody, including Hexeth, On Monday is in this cult, and they've got these tranny psycho teams and serial killer groups around the country.
They're the most violent group per capita of any group, and they try to cover up the mass shootings and the murders they're doing, and I'm not attacking all transgender people, but I'm saying, of this particular slice, it's insane.
So yeah, at Facebook, at Spotify, at Google, I mean, look, both Wachowski brothers that made the Matrix say they're women.
You go there, you don't get in the club unless you're this.
This was created by MI6, Tavistock Institute, CIA. And they've got men and women sports beating up women everywhere.
I mean, it's a litmus test to see how much craziness you'll put up with.
And then the government's saying, well, we don't have to work.
And Trump can't fire us.
They're the same ones that tried to lock all of us down to collapse society.
I mean, it's a death cult, people.
They came up with psychological programs to get the public and different groups to buy into.
They put the crazies in charge, try to enforce us to get into it.
They try to take our kids away and brainwash them into the cult.
Don't tell the parents everywhere.
They have all these federal grants going in to do it.
Trump just cut those off.
The cavalry's here, folks.
And Trump's doing 98% good.
That's why I'm defending him and supporting him proudly.
And so is Elon Musk.
But this is America turning back at the last minute before it went over the edge of a cliff.
So here's the new press secretary knocking it out of the park, and we'll come right back with all the rest of the news.
Please stay with us and share the links.
unidentified
But is there any concern that we risk losing people with years of experience like doctors and, let's say, scientists?
Well, most doctors who work in actual hospitals and medical institutions have to show up to the office.
We know that employees are more productive and more efficient when they are working in an in-office environment, and that's what this administration expects.
And I think that's what American taxpayers expect.
Don't forget, it's the American people who are funding this government, and they deserve people who are actually showing up to work.
alex jones
So, Governor Pritzker in Illinois, Chicago's ground zero of states, as I predicted, along with California, saying, we're going to let illegal aliens, even criminals that have committed murder, stay here.
We're going to change their name so the feds can't find them.
That's racketeering.
That's organized crime.
That's espionage against the country.
And I just covered that at the end of the last hour.
And they've got NGOs all over the country, all over the Western world, doing this.
That's how private schools, public schools continue to secretly brainwash your child during another sex and put them into the cult and not tell the parents and put them in after school programs literally with peer pressure brainwashed.
This is a weaponized globalist system.
And we've got big developments on that front.
So Elon Musk just posted this to X. Events in Austin, Texas and D.C. this week are related.
We're engaged in a war that will decide the trajectory of our civilization and NGOs are a major front.
What the three trillion Trump just cut off and the judge blocked it, but that'll be overthrown, overruled.
Our government sent hundreds of billions of dollars of taxpayer money annually to unaccountable non-profit orgs who then fund radical activists and political organizers.
Trump is fighting leftist judges.
Over his federal grant freeze.
And today, the city of Austin, Texas voted to give money to notorious leftist NGOs and to protect illegal aliens.
What can we do?
Two arms.
Saddle up and stand ready.
It's time for the state of Texas to join in this battle on the side of the good guys.
Read our latest Cicero blog on how Texas can lead with reforms to pierce the veil of any government-funded NGO and stop activists hiding billions.
And ideological spending behind the grant mazes.
Notice I've been focusing heavily the last week intensely on this.
I want to get Joe Lonesdale on immediately.
Please tell the producers.
That is so key.
And it's been big tech, Google, Meta, Apple here in Austin spending billions in the last few years to put all this in and to match the federal money.
And the city of Boston, Chicago, L.A., Denver, these are the key enemy bases.
And now to have a titan, a big tech leader, Musk directly flamethrowing each rat hole, going after globalists in the EU. Going after globalists in Latin America.
Going after globalists in Africa.
Going after globalists in the Middle East and Asia and Europe and Eastern Europe.
Flamethrowing the commie mayor of LA. Flamethrowing the commie mayor of Chicago.
Flamethrowing the evil fake Republican governor of Illinois.
Dominating Patrick Bateman 2.0 in California.
And now you see the results.
The mind virus.
Coming after your children, saying men are really women, women are really men, is the pronouns, the cult making you accept.
California passing a law two years ago, they'll put you in jail if you misgender someone.
Pete Booty Juice, last night, had he him on his ex account.
Zoom in on that.
He removed it last night.
This is the guy that famously, Would park a quarter mile from his offices and get out of an SUV and then ride a bike.
What a joke.
Now today, Pete Booty Juice has removed him, he, and they're all doing it.
Because they pressed it, they tried to make us conform, it backfired.
No more Rachel Levine, the Admirals.
The main mission is your children's genitals being removed.
Rachel Levine.
Out, out, out.
These people, they're all over the internet.
Oh, we're coming in the bathroom to talk to your children.
What's wrong with that?
You don't like it?
Literally says that.
Elon Musk put out this great meme the other day.
Number of genders from 4,004 before Christ to 2020 AD was two, male and female, in the animal kingdom as well.
But from 2021 AD to 2024 AD, 73 genders.
And now, in the year 2025, present, it's back to two.
Now, where do we see this before?
Many times, but the Jacobins of the Illuminati, the real Illuminati, in the history books, French Revolution, not to empower people to enslave, wanted a nine-day week, no families, wanted to turn the average human into an animal, wanted to destroy language and culture.
They created communism.
It's mainline history books that you see where communism has its roots.
The Jacobins, the French Revolution, who were worshippers of Lucifer.
Who did Saul Alinsky say he followed Lucifer?
Look it up.
Dedicated his book, Rules for Radicals to it.
So, when you see Zuckerberg apologizing and saying he's not with a globalist, I said, I want to see you stop the censorship.
And I want to see, you know, what else should you do?
Well, he said, no more DEI. No more men and women's bathrooms here.
No more tampons in men's bathrooms.
It's one of their sacraments.
Remember Tampon Tim, Minnesota.
Metastaffers revolt over tampon removal from men's restrooms.
They show up with their own and start protesting.
Now that sounds crazy.
It is crazy, but this is the cult.
It's how they make you accept the crazy stuff.
You have all these women's spas, and then...
Women are naked in the spa, in the hot tub, or the steam room, and here comes a dude with a foot-long wiener.
And then the LA police go, no, he's allowed to do that.
You're like, I'm in there with my, you know, you got a mom with her mother and her daughter, particularly the Koreans, you don't like to do that.
But, you know, any spas, you can ask, everybody's been in spas at the men's area, at the women's area.
Men in spas don't usually go around naked with each other except in the shower.
The point is women do that and women are comfortable around each other and that's women's culture.
And they say, nope, we're going to have creepy dudes come in and do that.
It's all about pissing on you.
And look at this.
Metastabbers revolt over tampon removal from the men's rooms.
Here they are having their little protest out front.
I mean, look at these people.
Clowns.
It's a cult.
Trans woman who sought to kill Scott.
President considered ramming car, driving knife into Trump.
24-year-old transidentified male, oh, it's male now again, from Massachusetts, was arrested Monday at the U.S. Capitol with a lot of cocktails and a knife that intended to kill people, including Hegseth, was planning an attack for a month to hurt big players.
Close quote.
She, her pronouns.
Oh, but look at the media making fun of me and RFK Jr. Gay frogs and atrazine.
Why?
The alt-right likes RFK Jr. So it's not a serious issue, the atrazine?
RFK Jr. says he will axe Biden's HHS mandates, forcing doctors to offer transgender interventions.
Good.
Oh, and now men are suddenly getting their passports that say they're women, and sorry, you're a man.
We're not playing your little game anymore.
All right.
I've got some really interesting news here that I want to get to that is just wild concerning all the gold disappearing out of different depositories.
Not people's private stuff.
Wait till you see this in just a moment.
But I wanted to play this now.
I've talked a lot about this before.
And we played the clips.
And I need to get them because what's old is new.
The last five years, the COVID power grab that blew up in their face.
Fauci on C-SPAN two years before they released it.
Daszak a few years before saying, oh, we've already got our vaccines made for what we know is about to come out.
And then it's in federal international filings of COVID-19 and what the virus was made up listed in financial filings two years before they released COVID. And that's a big thing that us and our guests have.
Talked about it, and Dr. Martin has exposed.
But I didn't know this video existed.
Because it's one thing to have the federal filings, they already had it made on the shelf, and it was man-made, so they owned the patents on it, and they would own the patents on the supposed vaccine to respond to it.
And now that's all come out, even in Congress.
But look at this video, at the World Economic Forum.
The globalists knew, they planned it in advance.
CEO of Moderna admits we made the vaccine in 2019 because we knew the pandemic was coming.
Let that sink in.
They knew.
They had the exact vaccine for COVID-19.
They were behind it, and they will be behind the next one.
Klaus Schwab, the WF, are a serious danger to all of humanity.
This isn't theory.
It's coordinated agenda.
What are they planning next?
Now, that's Jim Ferguson.
Incredible.
So I'm going to, for the show tomorrow, the special Saturday show, I'm going to get this together today.
There's just so much to take out.
I can think of at least 10 clips of Fauci going, well, there'll be new viruses out of China, respiratory, when like a coronavirus, it'll blow up the whole system.
We'll bring in mRNA.
Said that 2018 on C-SPAN. And I've got clip after Daszak.
Oh, we're making these viruses, you know, for these respiratory ones.
And then we'll be able to have vaccines for it.
And then you've got the Pfizer head of mRNA caught a few years ago by James O'Keefe.
Saying, oh yeah, we've got a bunch we made, and then we release them, and then we give you a vaccine for it.
I mean, this is, they're caught red-handed.
But I realized when I saw this clip this morning that I didn't even know about this one.
I can think of at least 10 other bombshell ones.
What other ones do I not know about?
And so, how powerful will they all be together?
So I'm always telling the crew, what's old's new.
Stuff we broke five years ago when we were censored only on a few hundred radio stations and Infowars.com, now that we're reaching 200 million, 300 million views a day on my own account, I can't even keep track of the other stuff.
Now's the time to let the dog off the leash.
And it's time for you to share it.
So we're going to hit this and then hit the big economic news and more.
Look at the tariffs Trump's launching.
This is really important.
But first, here's the clip of the CEO of Moderna, who again, the Pentagon went to them with Gates, created this company just for this.
They've been given the bird flu contracts before Biden left.
I mean, this is their little front group.
Here it is.
unidentified
And I'm gonna go with Stephan Vancell.
Let's talk about vaccine development, because we've heard how it happened, obviously, with COVID-19 starting from 2022, and how extraordinary the process was also in terms of the speed.
How is the development, adoption and scaling of vaccine going on when it comes to different variants and sub-variants?
Because this is one of the big concerns as we're all here now and we're discussing, we understand the context and this is a great deal.
stephane bancel
Sure.
Good morning and thank you for having me on the panel.
So the great news versus 2020, where we are today, is we have manufacturing capacity.
As Seth knows, when the pandemic happened, More than I had made 100,000 dollars in 2019 for the whole year.
And I remember walking after that I was into the office of my head of manufacturing, and I say, how we make a billion dollars next year?
And they look at me a bit funny, say, what?
I say, yeah, we need to make a billion dollars next year.
There's gonna be a pandemic.
alex jones
And Fauci said, don't worry, Trump will be hit by a new pandemic out of China, respiratory.
Boy, they don't even hide it.
They love to brag like we're all stupid.
All right, Dr. Kirk Elliott joins us for the balance of the hour, a little bit at the next hour.
We've got so much to cover.
He is loaded for bear.
I've asked him whenever he's ready to come on with Big Breaking News to do it.
We have got so much to cover, so we need to be judicious about the time and just spend as much time as we have each piece to get to all of it.
But this just broke.
It's confirmed minutes ago in the ongoing press conference.
Trump has confirmed tariffs on Canada and Mexico and China will go into effect tomorrow.
This is because Canada and Mexico have supported the invasion and the fentanyl.
Canada and Mexico will be slapped 25% tariff.
China, tomorrow, for now.
If Mexico and Canada don't comply to stop pouring illegal aliens in and fentanyl, it'll go to 50% soon, Trump says.
So let's start with the tariffs with Dr. Kirk Elliott.
Let's play that clip.
Here it is.
karoline leavitt
With the president in the Oval Office, and I can confirm that tomorrow, the February 1st deadline that President Trump put into place at a statement several weeks ago continues.
The president will be implementing tomorrow 25% tariffs on Mexico, 25% tariffs on Canada, and a 10% tariff on China for the illegal fentanyl that they have sourced and allowed to distribute into our country, which has killed tens of millions of Americans.
These are promises.
Promises made and promises kept by the president.
unidentified
The president yesterday said that last night he was planning to discuss whether an exemption would be made on oil imports.
Do you have any information on what decision he made there or will there be exemptions at all offered under this?
karoline leavitt
I don't have an update or readout for you on the exemptions, but those tariffs will be for public consumption in about 24 hours tomorrow.
So you can read them then.
alex jones
All right, that's Caroline Levitt, the new White House Press Secretary.
So, so we've got that.
We've got Trump's other economic actions, what he's threatening with BRICS. And then we've got this huge story.
Something extraordinary is taking place in the gold vaults below Manhattan.
Zero hedge.
Financial Times of London.
Gold stockpiling in New York leads to London shortage.
Dr. Elliott has predicted this so much.
Something big is happening.
But he said particularly in silver because of manufacturing needs.
It's the big one.
So, Dr. Elliott, so much to hit here first.
Where do you wanna start?
kirk elliott
Well, let's just start with the tariffs.
You just played that video.
I mean, just this morning, Alex, Reuters had announced yesterday that Trump was gonna actually slap tariffs on Canada and Mexico of 25%, but delay it till March 1st, which turned out to be a bogus story, obviously.
Caroline Levitt said, no, this is not true.
alex jones
We're actually doing it tomorrow.
They also said he's selling out to China, Trump not planning tariffs.
We're just making stuff up.
kirk elliott
I mean, seriously, 47 is not messing around.
I mean, this is so good for America.
And Alex, it brings us back to what the founding fathers envisioned for our country.
And this is what is gonna make us great again.
Now, I saw that there was also...
A bill that was released to the House on January 20th to eliminate income tax, right?
So if all these things happen this way, and I don't see why they're not going to, when you look at what Trump is doing with tariffs, it's like, I think he's going to be successful in all of these things.
alex jones
Well, he said last week, he said, I plan to, when tariffs are successful, we're going to get rid of the income tax.
We're going back to the American system.
kirk elliott
I mean, how amazing would that be?
I mean, how long have we had stinking income taxes in this country?
A hundred and something years?
Just 1913. Everybody alive right now has known nothing other than living under one of the planks of the Communist Manifesto with progressive income taxes in this country.
And Trump's going to turn that around.
I mean, this is so exciting.
But here's where, what is this going to mean to the economy and to the markets, right?
We've got so much to go over, but really, tariffs is going to actually make an impact on the rest of the world in quite a negative way.
If we don't buy their goods, I mean, here's the angle, and it's brilliant.
It's absolutely brilliant.
It's like, all right, China and other countries and other companies from other countries, if you want to access wealthy America and our huge buying base, you're going to have to pay to come here.
Right?
And that's what the tariff is all about.
That's all it is.
It's like a pay to play.
You're going to fund our expenditures, everything that we have as a country.
And if you don't want to, if you're not gonna, well, then you don't get access to the American consumer.
alex jones
And the globalists set up deindustrialization here to control us in their own admissions.
Now he's using their setup against us that now all these other countries are totally dependent on the manufacturing, that they'll basically have to capitulate.
And then in the medium term, it will then bring back the industrial strategic base.
kirk elliott
Yeah, absolutely.
And so there's a video that I saw two days ago, Trump basically calling on Congress to end income taxes.
All right, this is incredible.
You've got the- The video that we just saw about tariffs, this is fascinating.
But here's where Besant, you know, when you look at what Scott Besant is doing, he's talking about a universal tariff of 2.5% a month, right?
You know, across the board to kind of ease into some of these things with some of these other countries.
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Trump...
kirk elliott
Because of fentanyl and other things and being sick and tired of the globalists just wreaking havoc on the American public said, you know what, we're not going to do that with these particular countries right here.
We're going to make America great again.
Now, the rest of the world might get implemented tariffs of 2.5% a month, but what is that going to mean?
So, for example, when the world that I live in on a daily basis, being a precious metals dealer, Most of the silver, for example, coming into America comes from Mexico and Canada.
What's that going to mean?
It means tomorrow, for people buying and selling, for these new inventories coming in, they're going to be way more expensive with a 25% tariff.
alex jones
And we'll get to that in a minute.
That's guaranteed to explode the price.
So this is the equivalent of the old Looney Tunes when Bugs Bunny's hitting Yosemite Sam in the head with a hammer.
And they're murdering 140,000 people a year on average with the fentanyl loan, and they won't stop it.
They'll do nothing.
It's all a big joke.
Trump is, I mean, this, for people that don't know, an instant 25% tariff is devastating.
kirk elliott
Oh, it's devastating for them.
And now, think about, you know, what's 2.5% a month times 12?
That's like, you're pushing about 30% a year increase in the price of BMWs and Porsches and Volkswagens.
In Sony products, right?
Because all of these imports that we're getting from other countries, imagine 2.5% a month graduated tariff on pretty much everything, universal tariff, that's going to make American products much more attractive to everybody in America, right?
Because if everything, if the price of a car, if you're looking at a BMW and it cost 100 grand today, well, With 2.5% a month moving forward, I mean, you're looking at $130,000 without even looking at inflation, right?
It's like, this is going to make foreign products so unattractive.
And this is the brilliance behind what Trump, you know, standing on the shoulders of our founding fathers, envisioned for this country.
And it's absolutely brilliant, Alex.
It's economically brilliant.
alex jones
But when you say that, I agree with you.
The right thing is always brilliant.
But Trump keeps saying this is the American system.
We've been set up.
We've been sold out.
And what you keep saying for months is true.
This is going to hurt these other countries and the middlemen.
But we don't have a choice.
We're over.
We were to be collapsed by now with Kamala over it if their plan went forward.
So America was brought right to the edge of the cliff and is trying to turn back.
The question is, can he execute on his agenda?
And so far, he's doing a pretty good job.
kirk elliott
He's doing a good job, and that's always the question, because he has to deal with a Congress who, even though we've got a two-seat majority in the House, doesn't mean that all those conservatives and Republicans are pro-Trump, right?
I mean, you got a bunch of rhinos in there.
I mean, you're looking at some of these Senate confirmation hearings.
It's like, oh, my word.
I can't believe kind of the ugliness, Alex, of Of politics and economics and how these big companies have obviously gotten into the pockets of these politicians.
When Elizabeth Warren is interviewing RFK Jr. and saying, do you promise not to actually sue Big Pharma?
And he goes, what, no?
What kind of a stupid question is that?
alex jones
And she's like, you as a lawyer, an environmental lawyer, and these are major pollution.
Why, you made $2 million over the years off lawsuit.
Oh, so we're not allowed to sue people.
Yeah.
kirk elliott
I mean, so I think Trump is going to have some difficulty getting some of these things passed, but I'm not too concerned about it because- Well, stay there.
alex jones
Stay there.
Let's talk about that.
And then what's going on?
You try to get into silver and this crazy gold hoarding.
This is huge, folks.
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We've already explained this a year ago, now it's all over the news.
The demand for silver that is one of the most important industrial metals.
Is exploding to all-time highs because of everything that's needed in the modern age, even more with it, from everything, particularly weapons systems, satellites, you name it.
And now with Trump putting huge tariffs on Mexico and other places where the silver comes from, and it's the biggest silver mines really in our hemisphere in Mexico, if Mexico doesn't capitulate, and he's still putting a basic tariff on regardless, That will supercharge it, but then you have the shortages of gold and silver that he was telling you about months ago that had hit the news.
They hit the news today, so let's walk through what you were trying to get into about the tariffs on silver and gold, everything coming in out of Mexico.
They have a lot of gold there, too.
And then these headlines, the Financial Times of London, something extraordinary is taking place in the gold vaults below Manhattan.
Gold stockpiling in New York leads to London shortage.
Financial Times of London.
I mean, this is wild.
We've got so much more we're going to get into, but Kirk, let's talk about these two.
I mean, the industrial's one, the tariffs are another, then the shortages.
They're really trying to suppress this, but it's not working.
What's happening?
kirk elliott
Yeah, so first of all, there's a story that came out from the Scottsdale Mint, right?
It's just a mint refinery.
Silver refineries in the U.S. are now backed up more than three months because demand is increasing so much.
Why would demand be increasing?
Well, a couple of reasons, right?
So number one, like you talked about, it's needed in all of this stuff.
But really, whether it's military, industrial complex, nuclear power, solar power, batteries, electric vehicles, all that stuff that we've talked about numerous times.
But really, in all the circuit boards of these AI chips, right, it's needed.
So it would be needed for cryptocurrency mining.
It's needed for this artificial intelligence, which are obviously moving in that direction.
So the demand for silver is not going to diminish.
In fact, even in a sluggish economy that we've had over the last four years, the demand for silver keeps increasing to now there's shortfalls of supply.
And so when you've got increasing demand and lowering supply, the prices are obviously going to go up.
But the story that the retail investor is generally unaware of what's happening is that refineries now have a three-month backlog.
And I think it's only going to get worse.
Now, this is in silver.
And if you look at what's happening with the silver price.
If you look at spot price, for example, which is the price of the metal as it's in the mine, you look on the internet and it tells you what the spot price is, right?
That's metal in its raw form.
And like you talked about, nobody ever buys that price.
That's just metal in its raw form.
That's like $31.50 right now.
Well, if you look at the current Futures Month contract price, which is in March, The futures contract for silver rolls over in March.
It's well over a dollar higher.
It's like $32.65.
So what does that tell us?
That tells us that everybody who's looking into the future for the price of silver views it's going to be much higher even a month from now in March.
So we start to look at these supplies, right?
And what's happening with the tariffs?
Now, if you look at CME, The exchange, and you look at COMEX, there's something happening simultaneously.
That is, the number of short contracts, futures contracts, is coming down, as is the number of amount of silver for physical delivery.
They're both coming down together.
And technically, that doesn't really make sense, right?
But what could be happening?
Number one...
These hedge funds and big banks, they're unwinding their paper positions, and the flip side of those contracts are requesting physical delivery in silver.
Normally, people would not settle for the physical asset that they have a short position on.
Let's say pork bellies, for example.
You know, pork bellies are hogs.
So when somebody is playing in the futures market, an investor, hedge fund, or whoever.
They're not going to say, oh yeah, I want two semi-loads of hogs delivered at my garage door.
No, nobody does that.
They always just liquidate the contract, settle in cash.
This isn't happening this time.
People are starting to request physical delivery, which is why the inventories are coming down.
Now, who could be those recipients?
It could be the manufacturers of the world, like Sony, Samsung, LG, Boeing, Lockheed Martin, that are saying, good grief, Trump tariffs are coming.
And if we don't take physical delivery of the silver right now, it might be 25% more expensive even next month.
So they're pulling that off, right?
And so that could be one reason.
The second reason, which is more geopolitical in nature, could be China actually saying, hey...
We know that if these banks that have these massive short positions, if they can't fulfill those contracts, they're going to have to buy silver at a higher price, and they're so highly leveraged.
What if we start taking away the supply?
Like what Russia did when they added silver as backing to the Russian ruble, that's going to take away supply.
So they could actually be attacking the U.S. banks.
But I think this has to do mostly with Trump and the tariffs and companies wanting to take physical possession right now.
Because it's only going to get worse for the price of silver for these manufacturers needing it.
But it's going to be great for us, right?
Because if we own the commodity that they need, they absolutely need it.
And what if the prices are 25% more?
What if they're 50% more?
What if it's 100% more?
Well, they're not truly going to care ultimately because they're just going to pass that on to the consumer.
alex jones
Sure, let me just stop you and interrupt for a moment because I just posted on X a live link of the show.
I know I'm right, but I just want to make sure I'll delete the comment because I don't usually talk like this.
A clear run on silver and gold actual physical possession has begun at the industrial, corporate, and governmental level.
It's in the Financial Times of London.
It's all over the place.
The Swiss are doing it, the Chinese, the Indians, and they're not going to be able to suppress this.
You add the tariffs to this, and you add all the industrial needs.
Is it fair to say that That a huge run on physical is starting.
kirk elliott
Yes, it's fair to say that.
And so confirmation of that, Alex, is look at the London vaults, right?
So the Bank of England basically is one of the largest vault for central banks' gold holdings globally.
Well, they're running out of product.
There's like really no product.
And so normally what takes about 72 hours for them to deliver gold to different central banks and whatever, it's taking four to eight weeks, not 72 hours, four to eight weeks because they don't have it.
Well, where is it?
Where is the gold?
It's coming to New York.
So here's, again, I think this is one of two potential reasons this is happening.
I think the main reason is actually Trump and his tariffs.
Because if he's slapping tariffs on these countries and the gold is coming from another country to go into the COMEX depositories, which are in North America, well, then they're just going to be higher priced by 2.5% or 10% or 25% or whatever the tariff is.
So these countries are getting metal into America now before tariffs hit.
Which, like Reuters stinking said yesterday, it was going to be March 1st for Canada and Mexico.
It turns out it's going to be tomorrow, according to the press secretary.
alex jones
So this is like people trying to go to the bank to get their cash and they won't let them out for a few hours.
They call it a run.
The vaults in England, the Bank of England, the government, was a few days to withdraw that.
The wait to withdraw a billion stores in the Bank of England.
Vaults has risen from a few days to between four and eight weeks.
Whoa!
I mean, that is crazy.
kirk elliott
Well, and what the second thing here is an arbitrage opportunity for people in Asia, you know, because the price at COMEX is actually higher than other parts of the world.
So if they get the metals here, they can actually take advantage of that.
Why do they need it here?
This is a big point.
alex jones
Yeah, so why is the U.S. hoarding gold?
Because everybody else is running out of it?
kirk elliott
Well, it's not necessarily that they're hoarding gold, but they need it in the depositories.
alex jones
No, they're not hoarding because they're gonna run out.
They're trying to get as much as they can.
But you said this over a year ago.
That's why China saw this coming, and they are hoarding.
kirk elliott
Yes, so when these contracts are rolling over and people are wanting physical delivery.
Comex is actually hosed if they don't have the metals for physical delivery.
So they need the metals to come into the Comex so they can provide it for physical delivery.
And that's why it's leaving London.
Well, now London doesn't have it for the central banks around the world, which they actually house the metals for.
alex jones
Well, I want to be clear.
I don't sit here and say get silver and gold from you.
You know, just to say it, I want to always have the right bet.
I want to be tomorrow's news today.
I'm neurotic about it.
Plus, that's why we're so successful.
So the corporate media lies.
Everybody hates them.
Nobody watches them.
But I want to be accurate here.
And I know you've been really accurate in the past.
You don't want to overpredict.
But gut level and just looking at all this, it just, it looks like a perfect storm here.
I don't see how they suppress this with naked shorting or anything else.
And with all the inflation we've had, and they've suppressed the real price of gold and silver forever, what we've seen rise, it seems like, according to real inflation, a fraction of where it should be.
Why don't you, correct me if I'm wrong, and then walk through from the real numbers of inflation where silver and gold should be?
And the question is, will it even ever start approaching that, or is there a way for them to suppress it?
kirk elliott
Well, so let's talk about the suppression thing first.
You can suppress and manipulate prices all that you want, as long as there's actual inventory, because you're just playing with numbers.
But when supply runs out and manufacturers need it, I don't care how good of a manipulator you are, if they need it, you can't play manipulation games.
alex jones
And obviously Trump knows by doing this, he is really going after who?
Because obviously he knew when he did this, it would cause it to explode with these tariffs.
kirk elliott
Yeah, he's going after China.
He's going, actually, this is going to impact the globalists around the world and these global bankers, right, as these banks are going to get squeezed out.
I think we're at the beginning of a short squeeze in silver just because the physical delivery has to be made.
This gold on these contracts, as they come due, has to be made, right?
So you've got companies.
So how futures contracts work is...
Let's say you're Sony.
And you say, okay, we want to basically put a baseline on our costs so we know what it is.
So we will pay $32.60 for silver in March of 2025. That's what the futures contract is.
So they know that that was what it's going to be.
So they're thinking.
But why would you put something at $32.50 if you didn't think it was going to be that?
You absolutely wouldn't.
So these companies...
Are expecting silver to go up because there is no supply, Alex.
They see it.
These operational officers at these companies, these people who are getting the inventory to have the goods and the components to make a final product, they know what's happening here.
alex jones
Sure, that's what anybody in manufacturing does.
It's the number one thing in business.
How big is this?
Because it looks like this could really cause a massive breakout and then actual reality to come flooding in of where silver and gold should be.
What are the different possibilities of how this could unfold?
kirk elliott
So, we've talked a lot about the ratio trade between gold and silver, right?
And we're at 80-something to 1 today.
At 60 to 1, I'm just talking about normal growth here.
I think, and I hate to predict numbers, I really do, because somebody's right and somebody's wrong whenever you predict.
But looking at where we are in these trends, I think we'll probably hit, let's just use the ratio, 60 to 1. That means silver could be $50 an ounce and gold $3,000.
That's what a 60 to 1 ratio would be.
I think we could get there by the spring or the summer, quite easily, actually, with what's happening with the shortages that we're seeing.
So that's big growth, right?
And everybody's out there looking, it's like, well, what kind of growth can we get for our portfolios if we look at crypto and we look at all these other things?
It's like, yeah, you can get growth in various places, but what is the risk profile that you're looking for?
Do you like things that are digital?
Gold and silver, because of the supply issues, it's not just something you can create out of thin air.
Either it's there or it's not.
Either it's come out of the ground or it's not.
You're seeing these supply chain disruptions added to that, the tariffs, and we could see massive price growth.
I really think we could see $50 silver by the spring or summer and possibly even earlier.
I mean, I'm not God, I don't control the markets, but we've never seen anything like this.
We've never seen where the London bullion vaults are running low and all of the metal is coming to America to avoid Trump tariffs.
We haven't had tariffs in this country at this level in well over 100 years.
This is a game-changing moment for us as a country and for investors in particular.
alex jones
It's just stunning.
Obviously, with all the factors, it's going up.
But if these countries that Trump's putting tariffs on don't bow...
Then I don't see how it doesn't explode.
kirk elliott
Yeah, I don't see how it's not going to explode either way, right?
Because you've got this global manufacturing frenzy of everything electronic, AI, solar, battery technology, all of that.
That's outside of any tariffs.
alex jones
And it's an uncontrolled revolution, so it's not going to stop.
kirk elliott
Yeah, it's...
It's a pendulum-shifting moment.
Like, every society goes through a change, right?
We've gone from barter economy, where we had beads or rocks, and that moved to gold, and then that gold moved to paper backed by gold, and then we moved to paper, and then we moved to plastic, and now we're in digital world, right?
You know, from paper to credit to whatever.
Well, now it's going back to what always has been gold-backed.
Stablecoins.
Countries wanting their digital currency to be backed by gold.
alex jones
And that's what Trump is saying is that he wants a digital backed by real.
So are the Russians.
So is China.
So what's incredible is I don't sit and try to make myself emotional.
I intellectually look at everything.
And then obviously the subconscious is way more powerful than the conscious.
But I feel really like this is huge.
I mean, just right now talking to you, I feel like This is going to be massive, not just the price of gold and silver, but what it signifies and all this change together.
It just feels unstoppable.
So the big question is, how do we all get on the side of it that's going to be successful?
Because people that don't, who aren't even trying to think about this, and the bureaucrats and the globalists that are on the wrong side of history, it's not going to go too well for them.
kirk elliott
Well, so it's not.
And you had asked the question of where should these metals be with inflation?
So everybody that's watching this can go to usdebtclock.org and look.
Now, what it does is it compares the amount of money in physical circulation versus the number of ounces available.
Because that should tell us what these things are worth.
Silver should be worth $1,261 an ounce.
It's not.
It's like 31. Gold...
Should be worth $9,761 an ounce.
It's not.
It's like $2,800, right?
So you look at these numbers, though, and this is why we're allocated into silver, because it's extremely undervalued compared to gold.
If gold is almost at $3,000, it should be $9,700.
Silver is only $31, and it should be $1,200 an ounce.
Let's just say that these projections are 90% wrong.
Well, that still puts silver at $126 an ounce.
Alex, when we allocate into safety and strength, we want to have the odds in our favor, right?
These are very undervalued assets when given the amount of money that's in circulation, which is inflation, the amount of physical metals available coming out of the ground, which just isn't there, and it's still needed.
This is why I will continue to shout it from the rooftops with you.
Every single week until there's something else that makes more sense.
And I don't see anything else that's actually safer or gives people a more sense of a feeling, not just from a financial standpoint, but getting out of the system of big brother, central bank, digital currency, the complete ability to control you and your spending and cut you off from your money.
People want to get out of that system and have something that's tangible and real and it's not digital.
Whether it's a philosophical level, a financial level, an investing standpoint, just looking at it for safety and an insurance policy against collapsing currencies globally, we're not just talking about America here.
I think America is going into a renaissance, and it's gonna be amazing.
But around the world, we're ravaged by debt and derivatives debt.
alex jones
Oh, this is gonna be insane.
kirk elliott
And gold and silver are not just American investments.
They're global things.
alex jones
Dr. Elliott.
I'm going into the fourth hour and I've got a bunch of stuff just broke.
It is unbelievable.
Did you know George Soros just bought these hundreds of radio stations?
It is confirmed.
We have the reporting.
But even though this was from two days ago, I don't even want to play it because they're identifying where ICE is, where their vehicles are in live time on one of the biggest radio stations in Southern California saying go after them.
I mean, this is terrorism.
I'm going to be getting to that, ladies and gentlemen.
We have the audio of the main anchor all day on the show saying, here they are.
Get them.
Go confront them.
Here they are.
It just goes on and on.
That's coming up after you leave us.
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We're getting a first look with Hakeem Jeffries saying they're going to hit the streets and fight us.
So it's like 2.0 of Maxine Waters.
And now they've got the radio stations owned by Soros, not just putting out global propaganda, but directing people to go confront federal agents.
So while they're rounding up serious, hardcore criminals, that's coming up next segment and a bunch more.
This is just, and we have the audio, okay?
I mean, this is really happening.
But even though this happened a couple days ago and it's still ongoing, I'm not going to air it because I'm not going to be involved getting people killed.
So this is really, really nasty stuff.
This is weaponization.
Dr. Elliott, you want to briefly respond to that?
And then I want to hit real quick, AI Deep Seek, that's kind of had time to shake out what you think is going on now.
But first off, what do you think of Soros?
kirk elliott
I mean, it doesn't surprise me.
I mean, I wish I could say that it does surprise me, but it doesn't because it's just downright evil.
And he's shown over the past whether he wanted to absolutely dismantle the British pound or the US dollar or freedom of speech or anything that's conservative or godly in America or around the world.
None of this stuff surprises me, but this is just downright evil.
alex jones
Well, his son's the main commander.
It came out in documents a decade ago, but now I'm full charge of Antifa.
So these are terrorists.
kirk elliott
Yeah.
I mean, it's really, really bad.
I mean, it's just bad.
And again, I wish I could say that it surprised me, but it doesn't.
alex jones
Totally sick.
Shifting gears real fast.
China's so-called AI, now it's coming out.
It's really the Chinese government.
It didn't just come out of nowhere.
It's got a bunch of shell companies out of Singapore.
What's really going on with DeepSeq?
kirk elliott
Yeah, so when you look at it, it's a human language AI technology.
It came out of nowhere.
Literally last Friday, hardly anybody even had heard of it.
But within three days, there was three Chinese companies that came out with their own AI platform.
And then two days ago, Alibaba came out with theirs.
It says this is a...
See, killer, right?
We're actually much better than that.
alex jones
This is an AI sneak attack.
It's an AI sneak attack in the AI wars.
kirk elliott
Yeah, I think it's an AI sneak attack, kind of like Sun Tzu's War Academy, right?
You hide in the darkness and then you come out when your enemy least expected, right?
This is what China's doing here.
And I think it's a shot across the bow against Trump.
I mean, they've been working on this stuff, obviously, for a long time.
It just doesn't happen in one day.
So when did they release it?
Literally one week after the inauguration and Trump's promising tariffs on China.
So here's where I think this is very geopolitical in nature.
It's not just them trying to usurp the West's ability for AI and to be the global leader in this.
I think the Chinese, if they play this economic warfare game...
Let's say, well, we could sell U.S. treasuries to dismantle the dollar and dethrone it as king dollar of the world.
But that would actually shoot us in the foot because we own a trillion dollars of treasuries.
We can't dismantle it too quickly.
But what if they can destroy the American financial system?
NVIDIA lost $600 billion in one day.
Day two, they kind of regained a little bit.
Day three, they lost another $200 billion.
Why?
Because this new deep-seek technology.
Doesn't use the expensive NVIDIA chips.
They use the cheaper ones.
So here's where the problem is, and how do they do this?
By compartmentalizing the thinking process.
Instead of one big brain looking at everything in the world to come back with an answer, they say, if you're asking a legal question, it only opens up those processing units.
If you're asking a health question, it only opens up that.
So now the world thinks that they can use cheaper technology.
Instead of all these expensive NVIDIA chips, which is why those chip manufacturers NVIDIA are tanking.
But to me, corporate America is going to like the cheap product as freedom-loving Americans and people who want freedom.
Don't ever trust a Chinese company to keep your data private for crying out loud, which is why the Navy outlawed it.
alex jones
And now Trump is striking back.
kirk elliott
No more deep seek.
alex jones
Exactly.
And now Trump is striking back.
With a 10% tariff to begin with on China.
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kirk elliott
My pleasure.
alex jones
See ya.
We'll be right back with Massive News on Soros' Criminal Activities.
All right, it came out in the last few months, and the federal government completely got out of the way of all the regulations and just greenlit Alexander Soros, who really runs the empire now officially for the last two years.
Soros reportedly is almost in a vegetative state.
But it came out a decade ago that Alexander Soros was in charge of Antifa in Europe and here and was giving them hundreds of millions a year and was actually their commander.
The documents got leaked.
So, I mean, this is serious criminal activity.
And so they've got their networks ready to burn the country down, ready to burn Germany down, France down, you name it.
But when they bought these hundreds of radio stations, I thought, well, they'll just put out their propaganda on those.
I didn't think they'd use them to direct people during uprisings.
But now you've got Hakeem Jeffries, we'll play the clip in a moment, saying we're going to fight them everywhere.
We're going to fight the Republicans on the streets.
And on the streets, fighting means fighting in the streets.
So that's beyond.
The James Brown lookalike, Maxine Waters saying, you know, getting people's faces at the gas pump, the grocery store, you know, on the street.
This is wild.
And then Kamala Harris bailing people out, you know, we're burning down federal courthouses.
So now this broke.
They were doing this three days ago, Newsbusters and their media research group, and then they have it all linked here, the shows, the audio.
They found out about it just...
Just recently, and it's reportedly still ongoing, betrayal.
George Soros-controlled station, this is the one they're focusing on in L.A., one of the biggest, unmasked vehicles of undercover ICE agents in the field on their raids to obviously get people to hope somebody goes and is violent.
This weekend, a radio station owned by George Soros-controlled, audacity, outrageously identified.
The vehicle whereabouts of Immigration and Customs Enforcement ICE agents operating in San Jose, California, which is known for violent gang activity.
KCBS 740 AM, not to be confused with the Los Angeles CBS affiliate, elevated the insane unmasking of ICE agents from the leftist Rapid Response Network, that's Antifa, which fights against deportation initiatives during the January 26th edition of KCBS Radio News.
And it's still ongoing, by the way.
But to make matters worse, anchor Brett Buckhart gave exact descriptions of the vehicles and their locations, reportedly using, including specific locations.
News Nation confirmed that the agents were conducting operation in the area around the time, meaning their cover was potentially blown.
So that's like if a SWAT team raid you learn is happening, and you get on the radio and say, hey, these bad people are going to this address.
What do you think is going to happen?
Playing with fire, and now they're signing a bill next week, Pritzker, where they're going to change the names of illegal aliens with criminal records, including violent ones, so ICE can't deport them.
When you give criminals a new identity at the state level, that's what you give spies that are infiltrating a country or something.
I mean, this is just wild.
Post-millennial senior editor, Annie DeGoe, noted the agents were working undercover.
You can listen to the asinine reporting from the Lepus Network below.
We got the clip all right there, and it goes on and on.
Soros purchased $400 million for 40% stake of the bankrupt Audacity in February, taking over hundreds of states, including the powerful 50,000 water that covers multiple states right there alone.
So imagine what they're going to do during their real uprising.
These are just probing operations.
All right, this has so far been incredible.
Three hours, ten minutes.
And I'm going to stay here late tonight.
I'm going to go get all the powerful clips out of the show today.
I'm going to post those to X and informers.
And then I've got a bunch of other stuff we haven't gotten to yet that's just outbreaking that I'm going to shoot reports on.
And then, tomorrow, noon to 2 p.m.
Central, we're doing an emergency transmission.
So, so much happening.
So much going on.
We're winning.
We're running the tables on them.
But the deep state is going to pull some major garbage.
You can bet your boots that that's the case.
Wow.
Just absolutely just bonker town.
The bad guys are on the ropes, but they are not going to give up.
Totally wild.
Listen, I haven't even learned what happened yet.
I'll do an update.
There was an emergency hearing ordered today at 11 a.m.
Central just last night.
In Houston, the federal court, because the judge ordered the U.S. trustee that the feds were able to bring into a case.
He's already fired one and removed two other CROs.
You know of them trying to shut us down five times in the last eight months.
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It's far worse what we got in Discovery.
I sued the hell out of them.
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Huge data dumps in the discovery we got from them.
If you think what you know about is bad, it's all getting put together right now for the Justice Department.
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All right, the mighty Jay Dyer, best-selling author, researcher, right from the Globalist Stone documents, about to get into the explosion in Bitcoin, what the Trump plan is, the secret history of money, and where this is going.
You want next-level, over-the-horizon information?
You get it right now from Jay Dyer And then in 45 minutes The indomitable Owen Schroyer From the Infowar Studios The War Room Jay Dyer Welcome to the fourth hour Thank you, Alex.
jay dyer
You know, I get tons and tons of questions, especially now that Bitcoin has gone over $100,000 in its coin price.
And I get asked all the time, how do I get into this?
What is this?
Explain this to me.
I had tons of comments on my YouTube videos the other day as we analyzed an entire Michael Saylor lecture.
And so I brought on with me today the author of this excellent little book, one of the authors, co-authors of Thank God for Bitcoin, and his name is Jordan Bush.
And we're going to bring Jordan on because this is an interesting text that's written from the vantage point of Christian ethics and morals.
So could we apply biblical principles to the idea of money?
I mean, I think a lot of the people who believe in gold, and gold's a great thing, they understand that we need to fix money, we need something that's divisible, something that's portable, all these different qualities that make money.
But I want to talk about Bitcoin, and so Jordan's with me today.
He runs Thank God for Bitcoin, which is a conference, and looking forward to checking that out.
But before we get into that, why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself, how you got into Bitcoin, and then how you got the idea to co-write this book.
jordan bush
Jay, thanks for having me, man.
No, honestly, this is the last thing that I ever would have thought I'd be doing.
My wife and I met at Bible College.
We wanted to be missionaries, and so I ended up, we moved to South America and helped plant a small church.
Evangelical church in the capital city of Montevideo, Uruguay.
And it was really while I was there that, again, to our surprise, half of our church members were Venezuelan immigrants.
We were not expecting that.
And so I just started asking, you know, why are so many Venezuelan people piling into Uruguay?
And then just started to find that it's because their government hyperinflated their currency.
They had made, with each new government installation, they basically said, hey, we're going to make promises in order to try to get people to elect us.
And a big part of those promises is free money.
And so the way that they funded those...
The promises that they made was just by printing more money.
And so over time, the money became worthless, driving people out of the country into neighboring countries and as far away as people in Europe, people in the United States, whatever it was.
And so really very early on in our time in Uruguay, I just started to see the effect of currency devaluation and how it affects very real, normal people.
And so then after about four or five years of being in there...
And being there in Uruguay, I got into Bitcoin.
I just kind of heard about it and obviously had heard about it in 2017 when the price was running up, but just really just wanted to understand it.
I was a philosophy major in college and so much of my desire and interest in it was just from a standpoint of, you know, this question of what is money?
Like, what is this thing?
I saw the price gyrating violently and everything like that, but I just wanted to try to understand what it was.
And so really the thing that kind of stuck out to me was just to realize that Bitcoin was created in 2009 in the aftermath of the global financial crisis to be a money that a government couldn't hyperinflate.
And so it was kind of when I had that realization that I just saw, wait a second, the situation that we're seeing with our friends and loved ones who are Venezuelans who are now right here in Uruguay has happened over and over again all over the world over the course of the last 50 years and obviously generations before that as well in different countries.
And so, again, this is a real problem that threatens normal people who are just trying to work hard and save to provide for their families and for ministry as well.
We were working as missionaries and seeing that with every year that goes by, we were having to raise more money.
We were having to raise more support just to be there and minister to people who are in some of the hardest situations in the world.
So, again, that was kind of my intro into it, was through a very unorthodox way of just trying to minister to people who are experiencing the conflict.
jay dyer
Yeah, we have a lot in common.
I didn't realize you were also a fan of philosophy.
I got into Bitcoin in 2017 as well.
I was interested in it.
jordan bush
Oh, really?
jay dyer
Okay.
Yeah, Bible College as well.
So, yeah, we have a lot in common.
Let's talk about first maybe how when we talk about money, I think a lot of people think of it as, oh, that's that dollar over there with the all-seeing eye on it and it says Federal Reserve.
That's a thing the government prints to make the economy go.
The thing that really revolutionized my paradigm when it came to Bitcoin was understanding what money is, what the properties of money are, and then how the dollar actually doesn't anymore fit up to those properties, and Bitcoin actually does.
So how would you describe to the audience what the real traits of money are, and why is Bitcoin a superior form of that?
jordan bush
Yeah, I mean, a lot of this comes down to, again, my interest in this was just kind of how do I, again, as a Christian, I was a pastor when I first got into Bitcoin.
So just trying to think about, you know, how do I, what do I really know?
And how do I know it about what money is?
And so as I started to, you know, go down like an Austrian economic rabbit hole of just trying to understand money from their perspective, you find that money has a number of, you know, a number of characteristics, a number of properties, but money in a number of uses.
You can look at something like money is a store of value.
It's a unit of account and a medium of exchange.
And so those are the three uses of money.
These are ways in which humans are looking for something to do the things that historically money has done.
So store of value.
This is just something as simple as I go and I deny myself to serve my neighbor.
I go take my scarce energy and time, and I devote it to the service of somebody else.
I could be doing anything else with that time, but I devote it towards helping solve a problem for my neighbor.
And then my neighbor, because they appreciate, they're grateful for the work that I've done.
They want to give me something in return that has a lot of the same characteristics as the work that I've just done for them.
So, again, it's scarce.
It can't just be created easily.
It's going to last over time.
The work that I've done for them, the results will last.
And so, again, ideally, when you're looking for money, you want something that's going to have a lot of those same characteristics as the labor that you've done.
And so, again, throughout time, money has been a free market chosen instrument.
This is something that obviously there's exceptions to this.
Obviously, there's been governments who created their own currency.
But in terms of what serves as money, these are free market needs and desires that people have.
And so they look for something that solves, again, these three uses, the store of value, medium exchange, and unit of account.
And then beyond that, there's a number of characteristics.
Just a number of things that are able to be more durable, to survive the passage of time, survive entropy, survive just daily use.
This is one of the things.
There's a whole bunch of characteristics of money that you could talk about.
But overall, throughout time, one of the things that served really well as money has been gold and silver.
This is because you can't easily create units of gold and silver.
You have to go out and actually do real work to try to use gold and silver as money.
You have to take some instruments, some tools.
Go dig it up out of the ground.
You have to pay people to do that.
You have to refine those gold or silver minerals in order to be in a state that's able to be used.
And so there's a real production cost to money.
This has been the case whether you're using shells, whether you're using other kinds of stones, there's a production cost to money.
And this is the natural and healthy thing.
For about the last 100 years, in the advent of the Federal Reserve, and obviously this has happened in other countries and other situations, but in the U.S. context.
With the creation of the Federal Reserve and then later in the aftermath of the Bretton Woods Agreement and then the disconnection from the gold peg with the Nixon shock in 1971, we now have Quote, unquote, money or currency that is completely disconnected from scarcity.
It's not based in scarce resources.
It's not based in proof of work, energy that's been expended to create a scarce good.
It's really this currency that we use now is totally at the behest of a government and their desire and willingness to devalue the currency by creating as much monetary units as possible.
jay dyer
Yeah, I thought you guys did a really good job in the book laying that out.
You talked about the divisibility, the portability, the durability, the recognizability, and the scarcity.
And, of course, the scarcity is the most important.
So let's shift into why Bitcoin is a really good asset, why it's a really good, even superior store of value, because of its 21 million cap.
Why does that make it so scarce?
And how do we know that that's the case?
I get this question all the time.
Maybe they'll just decide to make more.
jordan bush
Yeah.
And again, this totally is an objection that makes a lot of sense given how complicated a lot of technological things are, especially computers.
You know, it's basically somebody, I can't remember who said this offhand, but it's Bitcoin is everything that you don't know about money mixed with everything you don't know about computers.
And so anytime you're going to, if you're going to connect those two things, it's just a lot of people, it's just going to go right over their heads.
So the reality, though, is with Bitcoin, there is a programmed limit of 21 million.
There will only ever be 21 million Bitcoin.
Again, for those math majors at home, you might be sitting there looking at that going, wait a second, there's 8 billion people on Earth.
What does it mean if there's only 21 million currency units?
Well, the reality is that every Bitcoin can be divisible up into 100 million fragments that are called Satoshis.
And so with that being the case, there's far more than enough currency units for everyone on Earth to use Bitcoin if and when we reach a situation where everybody had Internet, everybody had some of these kind of things.
They would be able, theoretically, to use Bitcoin.
jay dyer
Yes.
And so that scarcity, that makes it the hardest asset in the world.
And that's why we're beginning now, I think, to see nation states are starting to figure this out.
We've had the ETFs and the corporate world January of last year basically deciding, okay, it's time to get into this.
And that also might be a...
A place to make some criticisms in the sense of, do we really want BlackRock and these things involved in it?
But the problem is that you can't really stop that.
So the reality is that we could never stop the existing system from getting into this because the nature of Bitcoin itself, as Max Heiser always says, is it's like a black hole that's going to eat everything else.
I don't know if you agree with that assessment.
Do you think that it's going to eventually kind of be the superior store of value even over luxury items?
jordan bush
Yeah, I think so.
And the reason is just because of a lot of the characteristics of it as the properties of it.
So I can't send a Ferrari across the world at the speed of light.
I can't do that.
I also can't send a bar of gold through the air at the speed of light.
I can't do that either.
And then in terms of other luxury goods like art and these kind of things, they make great money laundering tools.
They have subjective value, very dubious value that somebody like Hunter Biden can.
Create a painting and then sell it for billions of dollars or millions of dollars and nobody bats an eye because, you know, we just have been so gaslit to believe that, you know, value is completely subjective and all these kind of things.
So there's lots of things, lots of ways in which Bitcoin, if you're an honest person who just wants to work hard and be able to store your value in something that can't be devalued away by a government or central bank or anything like those, you know, Bitcoin is a great option for you.
Again, one of my favorite things about Bitcoin is that I can buy it.
And I don't have to think about it.
I can store it properly.
I can custody it in such a way that I don't need third parties to help me with it.
And then I can just go about my life.
I can go back to work.
I can go back to spend time focusing on things.
You know, that are more worthy of attention.
And then again, Bitcoin, because of its adoption rate, because of the fact that it's scarce.
To give you an idea, there are more than 60 million millionaires in the world right now.
So there's not enough Bitcoin for even every millionaire to own one.
So I think these are the type of things that, you know, as somebody who, again, just wants to work hard and go home and spend time with my kids and my family, you know, Bitcoin is something that's very appetizing to me.
jay dyer
Absolutely.
You know, I remember Noe Yuval Harari when he was pushing a few months ago the idea of the return to central fiat bank currency models and we need this CBDC, we need this trackable, traceable, controllable fiat model with the electronic banking system.
He said, quote, well, I'm going to paraphrase it, but he said, we don't want the removal of third party trust that Bitcoin promotes.
We want you to trust these institutions which have been scamming you forever and ever and ever.
And all of the fiat currencies all go to zero.
So I want to get your explanation when we come back from this break.
We are talking to Jordan Bush and we're talking about the the removal of third party risk of other people that we have to trust in terms of our monetary transactions.
And why do we need to remove that trust?
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Welcome back to the fourth hour of the Alex Jones Show.
Have you ever wondered why?
You probably heard your grandparents talk about how when they went to the movies or they bought an ice cream or whatever, it was a dime.
And now it's $10, $20, $30.
Is everything just constantly, for no inexplicable reason, going up?
Or is it that the value of the currency goes down through debasement, dilution, and inflation?
And in the ancient medieval world, there was a very well-known practice of money dilution or counterfeiting.
And you would have coins, for example, would be mixed with other metals and alloys to debase the amount of gold or silver in the coin.
Or you might have other forms of counterfeiting.
And even in Isaiah, in Isaiah 1, 21 and 22, you have kind of a rebuke of Israel who had given into this practice through their silver becoming dross.
Micah 6, 10-12 talks about wicked scales and deceptive measurements.
You have a similar statement in Proverbs.
So the way that we operate in terms of economics should be done in an ethical way.
And we've never been in a point in history where there was a way to actually remove counterparty, third-party risk.
But now we're at that point, and that's precisely one of the components that Bitcoin is designed to do.
And we're talking with our guest, Jordan Bush, today.
Why is it that we want to avoid these risks, Jordan?
I mean, doesn't it seem like we want to have these authorities that can give us the money and tell us what things are money?
Or should it rather be left up to not a central private bank telling us how much currency is available or how much debt we can have and basically destroying the currency?
jordan bush
Yeah, again, it's just like outsourcing of authority everywhere.
Anytime you give away authority, it comes with a cost.
If you're a parent and you outsource your authority by putting your kids in something – again, there's different situations where people have to do this.
But if you put your kids in a public school, you're outsourcing your authority to their teachers.
And so you're at the behest of those teachers and the government who's funding them, whatever.
And so anytime you outsource authority, you put yourself – At risk, you're only as safe as those people are trustworthy.
And so the same thing is true of money.
The same thing is true of currency throughout history.
You have a situation where, again, where did government currencies come from?
Well, initially, you had the free market chose something like gold or silver.
And then the government would come and they'd put their stamp on it to say that this is the amount of gold that it says that it is.
It just basically was kind of a stamp of approval.
It wasn't the government saying.
We give this currency value.
It was them saying, hey, we certify that it's this amount of gold, it's worth this much, and so forth.
It was also a way to demonstrate this is the currency that we accept and use here.
It was an instrument of political authority.
And so this is something where if you look at the scriptures, it's also very interesting that in one of the most famous passages about money, you have Jesus holds up a coin and he says, whose likeness in inscription is this?
And then he proceeds to say, you know, the coin held an image of Caesar.
Interestingly, it held an image of Caesar on the front that said, Caesar, son of the divine Tiberius, or Tiberius, son of the divine Augustus.
And then on the back it said Caesar.
It was a high priest, basically.
So you have on this coin the image of a person who's the son of the divine and a high priest.
And so Jesus holds this up and he says, render to Caesar what belongs to Caesar and render to God what belongs to God.
And so this is one of these things where people, as being made in the image of God, we serve a very similar function that human money serves to governments.
And so this is a big deal.
What you believe about money will determine and affect.
Every single thing else that that money touches.
And so if you have a money that's value only comes from the fact that a government declares it to have value, functionally that is a theocratic system in which those government officials or central bankers are the gods of the system.
So if they are the gods of the system, then they make the rules in the same way that in a world where the real god rules, he makes the rules.
And so again, government authorities, as long as they've existed, have wanted to ward off and get away from the idea that they have...
That they have limits that they're bound by.
And so, again, scarce money rains on the parades of governments all throughout history.
And Bitcoin is no exception.
One of the reasons that governments don't like Bitcoin is that it basically is scarce and they don't control it.
And they don't like things that they can't control, whether they be people, points of view, or whatever it may be, even if it breaks down to money.
jay dyer
Yeah, I mean it reminds me of a famous person who once said, give me the power to create the money and I don't care who the elected officials are.
And, you know, there's a couple things going on right now which are good signs.
You know, we have Trump warming up to, you know, the idea of a Bitcoin strategic reserve.
You know, Max Keiser's talked about that for a long time, that inevitably there will be this sort of game theory playing out that the nation-states will figure this out and start buying in.
And that might be a double-edged sword, but ultimately it's unavoidable.
I want to ask you a question about what was, we had a debate today on Twitter that was raging.
And my point was that, you know, we talk a lot, especially Republicans and conservatives for many, many years have talked about cutting spending and cutting government waste.
And certainly there is a lot of government waste.
But in my view, this kind of misses the point that Yeah, there's government waste, but the real root of the problem is that there's a private central bank that has the ability to print and control the currency.
They basically buy up the treasury bills, they buy up debt.
And so it's just sort of this circular debt-based system that is a long-term theft of...
The working class and through taxation, there's theft there as well.
So basically, getting rid of spending, getting rid of IRS, getting rid of taxes and their Federal Reserve, all of that needs to go.
But isn't the root of it the power, as that famous central banker said, to create the money?
jordan bush
Yeah.
Again, yeah.
If you make the money, you make the rules.
If you set the cost of capital via the interest rate, then you make the rules.
You can affect both the present and the future if you do that.
And so what Bitcoin does is it takes that power away from a government or any other centralized authority who, again, let's be real, doesn't have the ability, the intellect, the information available to actually do justice to that kind of a job.
And it puts that job back in the free market.
It just puts it out.
It sets an interest rate.
It sets a supply issuance.
It sets all these things and then forces Individual actors and state actors to adapt to that reality in the same way that God has created things like gravity and God has created a whole bunch of other things, health principles, nutritional principles, things that govern reality.
There is a reality that's there, and freedom is found in submitting ourselves to it once we find it.
That same thing is true.
Scarcity is a gift.
It's not something to be resisted.
And so, again, governments are going to wake up to this reality that they cannot change Bitcoin.
They're going to have to adapt their behavior.
jay dyer
We hear this term all the time.
Bitcoin is objective.
It's based on math.
It's based on a protocol.
And it's based on a global decentralized network.
Is this true?
And what does that mean?
jordan bush
Yeah, so again, we can go each one of those through there.
I mean, yes, Bitcoin is decentralized, meaning there's people across the world who are running their own copy of the Bitcoin node.
The Bitcoin software, a Bitcoin node is basically a copy of every single transaction that's ever taken place on the Bitcoin blockchain.
You can run a copy of this, your own copy.
It doesn't force you to rely on anybody else's copy with about 500 gigabytes of a hard drive.
So you can go spend $50 on Amazon and get a hard drive that's big enough for you to run your own node that basically confirms and verifies each transaction that's taking place, coming to you, leaving from you.
And so you're not forced to rely upon a third-party ledger that we're accustomed to seeing through things like a normal banking system.
So Wells Fargo has a copy, a ledger.
A spreadsheet that keeps track of all their debits and credits.
Their ledger, unfortunately, is not an open ledger.
They will not open their books to you if you go and ask them.
The fiat system works that way.
Bitcoin operates in a completely open and honest way.
And so, again, this is something that's desirable if you're a normal actor who has reason to distrust a banking system that, for instance, in the case of JP Morgan and Jamie Dimon, funded and knew about Epstein for years and allowed him to operate bank accounts with them until relatively recently.
So, again, to act like some of the things that people talk about, oh, Bitcoin is only used by criminals.
Elizabeth Warren, who says insane things like this.
jay dyer
Now, wait a minute, though.
But isn't this the currency of the drug dealers and the cartels?
jordan bush
And they make a good point because Saddam Hussein, when we raided his palaces, he had lots of Bitcoin.
Oh, wait, that was dollars.
Muammar Gaddafi, he also had lots of Bitcoin.
Oh, no, wait, that was gold in dollars.
So, again, this is just a laughable objection that's completely out of touch with reality.
Again, normal people are waking up to how insane this is and silly this is, especially when we can follow things like Nancy Pelosi's trading activity.
And she's obviously insider trading, and everyone knows this and thinks it's hilarious that she tries to claim moral.
jay dyer
All right, so that brings me to another question because I hear a lot of objections.
I'm sure you've heard all the same objections.
I tend to think that people who make these objections don't actually know what they're talking about, but they like to voice these objections because they heard a talking head on TV or MSNBC say it, so it makes them sound smart.
One of the top objections that you hear is, well, now wait a minute.
It's not a real tangible thing.
It's just in the internet sphere.
It's not anything physical, so it's not worth anything.
What would you say to that?
jordan bush
Yeah, and again, that's understandable.
There's something about tangible things that seem safe to us.
The reality, what I would say to them is the same thing I've said to a lot of people, is that, for example, in the case of our Venezuelan brothers and sisters who are living in Uruguay, many of them fled across the border.
Sorry, from Venezuela into Colombia on foot.
And so in their case, there were people waiting at the border knowing that there were refugees fleeing who were ready to rob people who had tangible goods.
And so in the case of them, in the case of millions of refugees all over the world, the tangible asset of something like gold or silver or dollars even, it's actually a negative.
It's actually something that is not desirable because it puts their valuable resources at risk.
So something like Bitcoin that allows you I always tell people, too, you know, a lot of older, you know, if you're, say, a baby boomer, you know, that thinks this sounds kind of crazy or whatever.
jay dyer
Baby boomers are already, for the most part, doing banking on their phone with their banking app.
So they're already in the e-sphere.
They're not using the physicality on a day-to-day basis like they used to.
So what would you say to somebody, maybe with that kind of a mindset, who thinks, well...
Why would I trust all this internet stuff, though?
Maybe the CIA created Bitcoin or the NSA. I mean, there's a conspiracy theory that the NSA did this, and it's all a big scam to get us away from physicality and into this e-system.
jordan bush
Yeah, I mean, philosophically speaking, there's something called the genetic fallacy, that just because something originated from someone or someplace, that somehow stains it.
The reality is what matters is how does Bitcoin work?
And if we knew the CIA, if we knew conclusively the CIA had created Bitcoin, that fundamentally wouldn't change anything about how Bitcoin actually works.
And so you can actually verify.
For yourself, you know, you can verify how Bitcoin works.
You can verify all of these things that we've been talking about, the supply cap, what keeps Bitcoin secure against nation states like China, who've tried to ban it seven times over the last 15 years.
At least openly, China is willing to do a lot more draconian things than the United States government is.
And so if they can't crack Bitcoin and they have incentive to because Bitcoin gets outside of their capital controls, these are things where, again, we have examples for 15 years.
We have 15 years of evidence that Bitcoin is what it says it is.
It works the way that it says it does.
And there's incentives for people to attack it.
There's tons of incentives, both political, monetary, you can name a whole bunch, for people to be able to attack Bitcoin.
None of them have been able to, and there's, again, good reason for it.
jay dyer
Okay, well then, there you go.
That's the next objection.
We get a new administration.
They end up being Fabian Socialists or outright communists.
They decide that this is some scheme, and the government bans Bitcoin.
How are you going to stop that?
You can't stop the government from banning Bitcoin.
jordan bush
Yeah, it's a great question.
Well, again, China's banned it seven times in the last 15 years.
So again, I know we're not always the greatest math advocates.
We're not always great at math, but you can look at that and you can be like, wait.
Why have they had to ban it seven times?
It wouldn't once be good enough.
And the reality is they keep having to renege on that ban because they can't enforce it.
And so this is something similar.
Another example of this, I actually prayed for a situation like this to happen.
And the Lord loves us and wants us to be happy, so he answered my prayer one time, which was, it would be great if there was a situation where a government cut off citizens from their bank accounts to demonstrate and distinguish Bitcoin and what you can do with it from the existing fiat money.
them.
And so then we had the Canadian trucker.
jay dyer
Canadian trucker.
jordan bush
Where these guys were all declared enemies of the state, cut off from their bank accounts because they didn't, you know, they objected to, you know, getting a shot in the arm that, you know, was untested and all kinds of other things.
So a lot of these guys, I had the privilege to interview the spokesperson for the Canadian truckers named BJ Dichter.
And he talked about the fact that he's like, you know, a lot of us weren't radical Bitcoin advocates or anything.
But once they cut us off from our bank accounts, the only money that we were able to receive and distribute to the other truckers was the over $900,000 worth of Bitcoin that we were donated and that was distributed and custodied in such a way that was done physically.
They actually went around handing physical envelopes with Bitcoin private keys in there that allowed these guys to get access to money and then buy whatever they needed with it.
So again, this is not a hypothetical reality that Bitcoin can withstand government.
You know, oppression.
This is actually tried and tested by some of the biggest countries on Earth.
jay dyer
Well, what if Bitcoin is a way to on-ramp us to digital currency?
And then the government comes in and says, get over here on this CBDC now that we've lured you in through Bitcoin.
This is a new objection I'm hearing all the time.
What would you say to that?
jordan bush
Yeah, so again, I think there's a lot of truth in that.
Like, there's, again, there's a lot of incentives for government to move towards things like central bank digital currencies where they can...
Put a shot clock on your money effectively.
They can basically, like that happened with the COVID checks, when they gave everybody the airdrop money to everyone, they could say with the central bank digital currency, hey, we're going to give you this money, but you have to spend it on these things within 30 days or it disappears.
And they can also say, hey, that crazy guy, Alex Jones, you can't donate to Alex with this money.
You can't give to this church or to this nonprofit.
We don't like them.
We don't like the fact that they're standing up to us as a government.
And so again, these are all things that a central bank digital currency And so, you know, functionally, again, there's some things that a CBDC would allow you to do that the existing, you know, SWIFT system won't allow you to do.
And so, again, that's why we want to have an alternative.
And so things like Bitcoin are a great alternative.
Bitcoin is a great alternative that is decentralized.
You know, isn't controlled by one or, you know, a number of entities or powerful entities or like foundations or boards that can change the things like the supply or change the rules that govern them very easily.
So, again, Bitcoin is very different from those things.
jay dyer
That ties into the next objection.
You're reading my mind.
Hey, BlackRock's buying a lot of Bitcoin.
Michael Saylor bought a lot of Bitcoin.
That means they can now control it and they can dump it all and destroy it.
jordan bush
Yeah.
And so, again, this is another thing that we don't have to speculate about.
In 2017, there was something called the Block Size Wars.
There were a number of different economic actors.
You had the large Bitcoin mining companies.
These are companies who buy these specialized computers that do nothing but mine Bitcoin.
And so, very powerful.
They create tons of Bitcoin, or they mine it.
They spend real-world electricity, turn that into real-world scarce electricity, and turn that into scarce Bitcoin, and then sell it onto the market.
They basically desired to raise the block size.
They wanted to be able to include more transactions per block.
This would have centralized things.
This would have given them a lot more power.
And so even though the strongest economic actors in the space wanted that to happen, it would have made it much more difficult for smaller actors, normal people, to run their own copy of a Bitcoin node.
And so basically you had the little guys.
Went up against the strongest, richest actors in the space, and the little guys ended up winning.
And so again, this just demonstrates, again, the decentralization and the power of Bitcoin.
The fact that you own more Bitcoin doesn't give you a bigger stake the way that some other things do.
If you're a stakeholder or a shareholder with a company, that gives you a bigger voice.
That's not true of Bitcoin, and we've seen it carried out over time.
jay dyer
And you're referring to Bcash and the block size work, correct?
jordan bush
Sure, yeah.
Any of the other forks of Bitcoin, again, there were people who just basically said, hey, I have a different vision for what Bitcoin is.
And so they chose to fork off and kind of deviate and go their own way.
And so those things are still in existence.
And then beyond that, there's tons of other cryptocurrencies.
If you know what you're doing, anybody can create a cryptocurrency in about 15 minutes.
So all these other meme coins that we've seen in the last few weeks of President Trump, they're regrettable.
Largely Ponzi schemes that are going to result in lots of people, normal people who don't know what they're doing, losing their shirts.
jay dyer
Now, I have it on good record that you just moved $1 billion into Fartcoin.
Is that correct?
jordan bush
No, that is not true.
I would fire myself if I had done that.
Again, with Thank God for Bitcoin, so we are a media company.
We publish books.
Again, you mentioned Thank God for Bitcoin, and then we just published last month a book called The Gospel According to Bitcoin that basically tries to help, basically explain why as Christians we get so excited about Bitcoin for reasons that have nothing to do with becoming rich.
Again, it just has to do with the characteristics of what it says about the way that the world works.
You know, Bitcoin is far more in agreement with the way that God designed the real world to work than the fiat currency is.
So again, we agree with all those things.
I'm trying to remember your question.
It ran away from me.
jay dyer
Well, let me rephrase.
I was just joking.
I've said that I think Bitcoin is ethical money.
Would you agree with that?
And how would you characterize it?
jordan bush
Yeah, yeah.
So again, I would agree it's ethical money because again, God made a world of scarcity.
Like we live in a world, every other part of our lives, we have to acknowledge that we are not gods.
We have to acknowledge that there's scarcity.
We can only do this or this.
We can't do things at the same time.
We have to make choices.
And fiat currency...
Which, you know, you can take the same piece of paper and put a, you know, a one on it and another piece of paper that's identical and put 100 on it.
And now all of a sudden, for some reason, this one is worth 100 times more.
Like, that's basically a fiat lux, you know, let there be light.
That kind of power is restricted to God alone.
People don't have that ability.
And so, again, so from that standpoint, in terms of...
To the effect that humans are put here on Earth as stewards of reality, where we take the reality that God has given us and we steward it for His purposes, rather than trying to create our own reality and create our own, whether it's genders or create our own conception of reality.
Again, it's much more ethical.
It's much more aligned with the type of, again, thinking and scarcity mindset that the world has.
Flourished under for thousands of years.
jay dyer
And also just truth, right?
Because fiat is kind of lying.
It's like saying, oh, well, I have a zillion paper notes and I have a zillion dollars.
I don't have one million dollars.
jordan bush
I have one million gold coins.
jay dyer
I don't have a zillion.
So it's fractional reserve lying is really what it is.
jordan bush
Yes, exactly.
And it also allows governments and central banks to steal.
There's something called the Cantillon effect that basically says that when money first enters the system, It basically has a higher purchasing power for the first people who the money touches.
So large people like Elon, God bless them, Elon can get basically 0% loans, whereas somebody like me who's looking to buy a house, I'm looking at like an 8%, 9%, 7% loan.
And so the larger that you are, the larger entity, the more powerful you are, the better situation it is for you.
You can get capital at a lot cheaper.
And again, do more with that.
You can get access to it and buy houses.
And buy other scarce goods in such a way that will prevent them from ever being able to be approachable for the poor or lesser advantaged people.
So again, what I'm not trying to say is that we can create this perfect secular utopia where everybody's equal.
I'm not trying to say that at all.
But the rules should operate the same for everyone.
God created a world where the same rules govern reality.
He talks about justice in the Old Testament, that justice ought to be the same.
Whether you're rich or you're poor, whether you're powerful or you're weak.
And so, again, fiat currency fundamentally basically acts against that idea and creates, again, gods and people who serve them, those two classes of people.
jay dyer
Just and unjust weights and measures when it comes to currencies.
And again, that's, like you said, a form of theft.
Now, there's a chapter you guys talked about how bad money corrupts the church.
I'm interested in that as we come to a closer.
How does this affect the church?
Why does it matter for a religious institution?
jordan bush
Yeah, so again, this is one of the things where God calls people.
He calls his people to live differently than the rest of the world.
He calls them out and says, hey, I've put you here for a specific purpose.
And then he gives us the things that ought to govern how we see and live in the world.
So one of the things that just astounds me is that you can read the Old Testament.
It talks all about the dangers of debt.
It will everywhere talk about how dangerous, you know, the bar was a slave to the lender.
Again, it's not an...
Outright prohibition because there are situations that people find them in where they need to put themselves in slavery to provide for their families, all this kind of stuff.
But then also, when you get into the New Testament, you find the Apostle Paul saying things like, owe no man anything.
He says, owe no man anything.
And yet, if we live in a fiat currency world, basically money is debt.
Like, the money that we use is debt.
It's created, it's issued as new debt that then gets paid back over time.
And so, basically, it begins to subsidize that type of world.
jay dyer
That world, yeah.
jordan bush
Yeah, if you're a person trying to...
jay dyer
I appreciate it, Jordan.
We have to go, but the book is Thank God for Bitcoin, and you can follow Jordan over on Twitter.
Thank you so much.
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