Alex Jones and Dr. Paul Craig Roberts dissect a spiraling global crisis, alleging a "hot tyranny" involving warrantless surveillance, illegal checkpoints, and elite plans to reduce the population via bioweapons. They analyze Jesse Ventura's potential Libertarian run to dismantle the Federal Reserve and warn of a 23% real U.S. unemployment rate driven by EU centralization. The discussion connects the Occupy Wall Street movement to staged terror events like 9-11, arguing that government overreach mirrors Orwell's 1984 and necessitates immediate citizen resistance against a looming police state. [Automatically generated summary]
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And then back this evening, seven o'clock central, for InfoWars Nightly News.
And we've got Michael Badnerik, former Libertarian presidential candidate, joining us always.
An informative and thought-provoking interview.
We'll talk about world events and news.
And take your phone calls.
In the last 30 minutes, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, who hadn't been on with us in a few months, will join us to talk about the debt crisis and what's happening in the economy, obviously.
Later in the hour, I've seen national television and listened to radio promoting the federal anti-bullying bill, saying have a heart, you don't want kids to be bullied.
This is nothing more than the hate crimes law that they haven't been able to pass to federalize basically everything.
And to have pure federal curricula inside all public schools, and to make it federal if somebody calls you a name.
And it's all selectively enforced, too.
I mean, I got beat up a lot and stuff when I was in public school.
And it wasn't because of sexual persuasion or even race.
It was just because that's what people do.
That's part of life.
Government bullies.
You need to get strong and stand up for yourself, not, oh, feds.
When you're not running checkpoints on my local highway that are illegal and bullying us, will you come stop bullying in the school?
And I was thinking about all these news reports now about microphones going up all over the country, and one company's been bragging about their federal contracts, what's gotten some attention.
This has been going on for 13 years that I know.
And that's why they had the head of Homeland Security in one region come out, and it's in the news report, we're gonna play a clip later, and say, if Charlotte What North Carolina does, put the microphones in these that we put up, you'll never know.
And that was like whenever the Austin police chief was in here, who by the way, came up to our camera crew a few weeks ago and said, I wanna come on Alex's show, I haven't heard from him.
We've been calling his office over and over again for years to get him on.
So Arne Saavedra, you wanna come in here tomorrow, come on, get down here, okay?
He did give me his cell phone number and his card, and I lost it.
But the point is, I've been calling his office.
They're gatekeeping, man, but side issue.
And his adjunct was with him and said, hey, we got better surveillance than the feds.
We've got, and Acevedo's like, be quiet, don't you tell him.
I'm like, I already know, Acevedo.
You got laser couplers that listen to people through their window.
You got microphones in most of the street lamps and hidden transformers and systems.
I know all about it, and he's like, how do you know this stuff, basically?
I want to get him in here, okay?
Because, look, I can see, I got the sunglasses, I'm not stupid.
This is beyond 1984, and it's not being done by a government that's legitimate or that cares about us.
I'm gonna be breaking that down today as well.
We're also going to get into the huge developments on the Iran front.
We're going to get into developments on the economic front.
Oh, and by the way, coming up at 1 o'clock Central, 2 o'clock Eastern, I'll still be talking on the Internet, but XM, AM, FM, Global Shortwave, UHF, VHF, all systems, including cable, are going to have the government pop in.
And I need to call Watson, one of the other writers, and go back to Federal News Radio.
They had Homeland Security on there when this first got renounced six months ago.
And we covered it on the news at the time.
And they said Obama is going to have a message.
And it was going to be like a 30-minute message.
But now they've backed off of that.
And Drudge has got a report where Big Sis is saying, don't worry, it's just a test.
The point is, it's a test where the stations don't have a choice.
We'll be right back.
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The ninth day of November 2011, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts is joining us on The Economy.
Former Libertarian presidential nominee, Michael Bagnerik, who hasn't been on in a while, will also be joining us to talk about world events and take your phone calls.
I'm going to open the phones up throughout the three hours today on any of the news items I'm about to mention or any stories or questions or comments you have.
But before I give the number out, let me just go over some of the news.
American newspapers as well as British are running the headlines.
Don't panic!
FEMA urges Americans not to worry as National Alert System is tested.
Now, Federal News Radio interviewing the Deputy Head of Homeland Security six months ago, we first read articles about it then, said that Obama Was going to be on for 30 minutes making announcements today and that he would officially be there testing it and it was going to be a longer message.
Then they said, okay, people are getting angry.
It'll be 10 minutes.
Then it'll be one minute.
And now it's going to be 30 seconds.
I told you in 96.
I told you in 2000.
I told you in 2003.
I know people high up in the Texas Association of Broadcasters.
I know engineers.
I know an engineer who was the head of it.
He's actually dead now.
And he's an old guy.
God rest his soul.
The point is, who were in the meetings with the feds when the Telecommunications Act passed And they came in over the next year and they told them what was already in there.
The cell phones are being listened to and tracked.
You've got to wire the EAS systems in at your tower site and at your control site where you have your board ops and talk show host.
And you'll lose your license and maybe even get arrested if you don't do this.
And in the future, we are going to have government break-ins with public service announcements and also people that are wanted.
The local police threat fusion center will be in command of it, so it'll sound like a local announcement.
And these owners, managers, engineers of these different meetings are sitting there with their mouths hanging open.
What was it?
1260 AM for a while, I was broadcasting out of there, back when they were talking, also filling in for their afternoon host sometimes, and their engineer talked to me about it there.
But separately, other engineers, when I was at KJFK, then I got introduced, went to dinner with the engineer and the head engineer for the whole state, and talked about it.
They wanted to tell me about this.
That's why I knew about it.
But it's just like Bill Clinton, and I'm going to play clips of this later in the show, from Police Day 2000, in a federal transportation...
Policy change said move towards hardened and roving checkpoints at internal checkpoints nationwide under a national ID card.
That was in 1998.
I put it in my film with the documents, Police State 2000.
And people always comment on YouTube.
Oh look, the checkpoints didn't come like Alex said.
I didn't say that.
I show the orders.
I show the executive FIAT directives.
And it takes time for them to get this stuff in place, but now it's coming.
It's here.
Now they're announcing all over the country.
FEMA, Homeland Security, TSA run checkpoints.
It's all over the news now.
It took them a long time, but the point is they were getting ready, getting geared up a long time ago.
I mean, in the late 90s, I went to Urban Warfare drill after drill and witnessed Marines trying to go door to door and take our guns and admit it was for America.
And I'd show people the video.
And back then, you weren't supposed to see that.
And so I got threats from the military.
All sorts of stuff went on.
The public wasn't ready.
So they said this must be fake.
Again, the Coronado landing, Hovercraft landing, troops taking over part of Oakland, foreign troops.
Rick Linklater said he had people tell him it must be fake when he gave him copies of Police State 2000.
And he laughed and said this would cost me $25, $30, $40, $50 million to do this, to show ships like this landing.
And again, it was real places.
It was news articles on top of it showing it was real.
But people were in denial.
Now there's been the preconditioning, so they go, sure, I told folks 13 years ago they were putting microphones and cameras hidden inside power transformers and light poles.
And they laughed at me, even though I had the purchase orders and the federal regulations.
I even showed folks where they were going up in Austin.
And people would call into the show and say, you're insane.
I'd say, no, no, here's the company.
Here's the $800,000 first purchase.
And then it goes up to $2 million next year in Austin.
And each successive year, they got license plate reading cameras, face scanning cameras.
Microphones are up in every neighborhood, in every major park.
They're all hooked into the Stinkin' Threat Fusion Center.
The average cop in there doesn't even know that.
It's just rolled in.
Oh, did you know about these functions?
Let me show you these functions.
They can dial in to your cell phone live time and listen to you.
That's leaked out.
The average cop on the beat doesn't know that.
It's all need to know.
I mean, it makes 1984 look like child's play.
So, I'm gonna get into all this.
But I was on Russia Today.
Um, last night, which is in every hotel in the U.S., they're all part of that hotel video package.
I know because every time I'm in a hotel, I can see Russia today.
Uh, it's on most of the cable systems in the United States.
And it reaches conservatively millions of people every hour.
And it's on in Europe as well.
And so I go on it.
And it's got kind of a liberal slant to it, but also brings in some libertarian ideas.
Though I've seen the last few months, they've kind of steered a little bit away from that.
after getting government congressional criticism.
I'm...
I'll imagine that's what it's about, because you've got the Japanese have English TV worldwide, Al Jazeera, other Arabic channels.
I mean, English is the world language.
And so countries are all trying to put out their own propaganda in their own language.
So I'll go on Russia Today, but I used to be on every week.
I've been on a couple of months, and I go on there.
And they've got a new lady on there named Liz.
Attractive, intelligent, seeming lady.
And she lets me run on for, you know, five, six minutes.
And then she says, well, what do you say to folks that say you sound like a schizophrenic?
I had told people a decade ago they were putting tens of thousands of GPS units on cars and that OnStar was a tracker GPS unit they were already using.
That's now admitted.
I told people they were listening to you without warrants over a decade ago.
I told you that they had face scanning, license plate reading, and microphones put up all over the place.
They've got giant police trucks in every major city, some cities dozens of them, that can tune into any frequency, hack anything.
The police are pulling people over, grabbing their cell phone without a warrant, plugging into a system that hacks through their code, downloads everything in a minute, all over the country.
Marines are running checkpoints from Alabama to California.
They're setting up homeland security checkpoints, pulling people out of their cars randomly.
They've got Viper teams going on trains and buses and actually saying, face forward, show me your ID now!
And literally screaming at people that don't do it right.
I mean, we're being inducted like people showing up at a Supermax prison where they're putting child killers.
This is how child killers getting out of the prison are treated.
Line up over there!
You know why you're here.
I mean, this is hardcore indoctrination.
This is America going under.
And now there's calls to censor the web, internet kill switches, EAS takeovers.
It's all coming to the head.
They've been building this army against us behind the scenes.
And I'm on air just talking about how they're spying on us without warrants and how it's wrong.
And the Supreme Court is going to rule that they can spy on everybody without warrants and put GPS on your car without a warrant.
And they admit it's on tens of thousands of cars.
That's what the local police alone have ordered.
And they can use your cell phones to do it.
And this is now admitted.
Admitted!
That, I said, Facebook says, you know, our users are dumb effers.
Ha ha ha, they trust us.
And her response to me is, so what do you say to people that say you're a schizophrenic?
And that's now what the TSA does.
If you don't want them to stick their hands in your pants, they go, don't be a conspiracy theorist.
Not wanting someone to touch your genitals is a conspiracy theory.
If you pull up at a hamburger place and say, I want a strawberry shake instead of a chocolate, that's a conspiracy theory.
Wanting black tennis shoes instead of white tennis shoes, conspiracy theory.
You're not supposed to have a thought.
You're supposed to be programmed by the television and that's it.
So, all this stuff I got made fun of back when I had the government documents and did the research and all of our sources gave us the intel.
Oh, it wasn't real then.
The Marines weren't training to take our guns.
They weren't training for civil unrest.
Now it's all admitted all over the news.
Oh, they're not going to have checkpoints, federal checkpoints, in the middle of the country.
That's your conspiracy theorist.
Really, here's the Department of Transportation document.
I'm not going to look at that nutcase.
Well, here's the document.
They want to take blood at the DMVs.
Now they're starting to roll that out in several states.
They're like, oh, that doesn't exist.
Now that it exists and is in everyone's face, their answer is, are you schizophrenic?
I mean, I guess as you're marching into a pit to be shot in the back of the head by Soviets or by the Nazis, did they... Please don't shoot me in the head.
I believe that, as Patrick Henry said, I want to know the whole truth and make preparations for it, whatever it may be.
And so I believe that when people are faced with the truth, that they will wake up and take action against it.
I understand some cowards will rationalize and make excuses, but They're openly announcing world corporate government run by the private banks that bankrupted the planet with derivatives.
The Vatican's calling for world government.
This stuff is all out in the open.
I mean, I've got stacks of news here where Google admits the U.S.
government's telling them to do it.
And again, I'm not blaming her.
She's clearly playing devil's advocate.
But devil's advocate at a certain point?
There is no devil's advocate.
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Now, we're going to go over the economic news, the Iran news, your phone calls, we're going to go over the economic news, the Iran news, your phone calls, a lot more. - Oh, But, think about the point we've gotten to in this society.
Where you're simply covering the fact that the police are grabbing people's cell phones without warrants, downloading the contents, putting GPS on tens of thousands of people's cars, dialing in and listening to our phone conversations without a warrant via federal law on the regulations.
Not that they can do it under law, but that the regulations say all the cell phones are designed to do that.
You understand that?
And it just goes on and on and on with hundreds of examples, government completely out of control.
I saw a report just last week where, actually Randy Kelton predicted this, where 46 states' attorney generals are making deals with the big banks.
And in the deals, they're forgiving them for all the stuff they've stolen, because that's their political bosses, and actually changing the state laws and state regulations so they're allowed to steal your house.
It's like, oh my gosh, you really have been stealing everything.
People are upset about this.
The law says it's illegal.
We'll just claim we're taking you to the woodshed and we're going to publicly slap you on the wrist, but once we get around the woodshed, we're going to let you basically politically rape and financially rape the public some more.
We're going to have the public tied down around the back, okay?
I mean, of course, if Bank of America and others have been caught, Taking houses they know aren't theirs.
You see, if a foreign army landed and said, you are our slaves, people might resist.
Actually, the way we've been domesticated, most people would go out and wave handkerchiefs at them and, you know, worship them.
Today, if the Russians invaded, people, most people would go out and wave at them and say, Can I turn in my neighbor?
They don't like you.
I mean, literally, the average yuppie would say, they'd show up at the Commissar's office and say, can I help round up Americans?
I love this tyranny.
Can I have some power?
I noticed you stomped a guy's brains out this morning down the road.
Can I have a uniform?
I want that power.
I mean, really, I'd say about 60% of Americans would love it.
It doesn't matter, though.
We're going to fight these people.
Okay?
We're gonna fight them.
And it really hit me this morning while I was jogging.
That we always talk about the government, the government.
This is not our government.
This is a foreign corporate system that's come in and is setting up a classical tyranny with a high-tech integrated system.
And they're openly setting up illegal federal checkpoints everywhere.
They are intentionally trying to intimidate us.
They're going on the news and announcing, yeah, all these cities are putting in high-tech street lights.
that watch you and listen to you and dial into the police in live time and cities are paying for these with Homeland Security grants and then at the end of the newscast they have the info babe on the local Fox affiliate in Charlotte she says we talked to the local Homeland Security official.
He's an official, not a servant.
He's a lord.
We talked to him, and he said even if these were put into the streetlights that that city now has, you would never know.
It's like, well, they're already there.
They're just putting more in.
Because this company bragged about it a few weeks ago, some new contracts they got, there's a whole bunch of companies doing this, and the feds had them pull the video, but now they've decided to go ahead and go with it, so they're like, yeah, okay, the streetlights are listening to you.
Cuz they're like, hey, let the slaves know, we're already taking their houses for no reason.
For God's sakes, we put cancer viruses in their vaccines and fluoride in their water.
So what, let them know.
Let them know, we got an unlimited force of people that want to kick Americans around and think it's manly.
Let them know, let them start a war with the globalists.
That's what the globalists think.
Let them chew up a bunch of our minions.
That'll just be a bigger excuse to take over.
We'll sit out offshore while this happens.
Because we've got an unlimited fountain of control freak thug bullies.
And that's their attitude, and that's where they're going.
And they'll take everything.
People ask, how far will this go?
I was on Man Cow Show, and he goes, he goes, I got three tickets in one day.
He goes, they come in the parking garage and said that his city sticker wasn't stuck a half inch in the right spot.
And then they gave him another ride up, and it's a brand new car.
And they just go around nickel and diming, as Emmanuel announced.
Of course, you're a slave.
They have disdain for you.
They hate you.
They've stolen the country blind!
Of course they let the troops rot, and don't even put the right bodies in the caskets, and ship them back to the family and don't tell them, so they pop up in the casket and there's a rotten body.
That's all in the news.
They don't care.
They tell you they love the troops and wrap them in flags all day.
Let's go to break with the info, babe.
We'll come back and play this clip.
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What that does to me The globalists are not going to give us a quarter.
They are not going to back off.
This is a hot tyranny.
And in military parlance, that means it's an aggressive, in-your-face, total domination system.
The elites have bragged, we've read their quotes, written constant articles about it, that they studied all the dictatorships and control systems of the world, and that they decided to go with a pharmacological drugging of the water supply and food, covertly, overtly pushing drugs over the counter, and illegal, and prescription, to bathe you in an entertainment distraction system,
to basically also divide and conquer populations and to bring in a tyrannical world government to incrementally shut off resources and then heavily social engineer the societies into total and complete collapse and then phases of ratcheted up controlled bioweapon release that then result in 80 to 90% population reduction.
And that's Rockefeller Foundation, that's Eric Bianca, that's Ted Turner, Prince Philip, Prince Charles, Jacques Cousteau, Club of Rome, Bilderberg.
I've made films, I've written articles, I've linked to the Rockefeller Foundation, and I'm sorry if that sounds like you woke up in a science fiction nightmare movie.
We're not in 1950 anymore.
Growing up, I always thought, why is so much of what's in these science fiction movies actually coming true?
That's because a lot of those top writers are very informed and know what the elites are up to.
And it turns out through the big science fiction clubs, they've bragged that they actually use certain writers to put these ideas out decades before.
Isaac Asimov, Frank Herbert, Robert A. Heinlein?
You know, Heinlein stuff is the only fiction books at West Point and Army War College that they have them read.
And of course you read it, not the movie, the book.
The Rapid Deployed Infantry, the bionic suits, the all-volunteer military, the global government.
Would you like to know more?
You know, the point is, is that If we can get it out to people, the fact that it's a scientific dictatorship that's taken over, that it's run by ultra-rich robber baron families who 160 years ago publicly hired the top scientists of Germany, England, and the U.S.
and had public conferences calling for a scientific dictatorship.
Just type that term in and you'll get all these famous Nobel Prize winners!
Bertrand Russell, I mean the list goes on and on.
H.G.
Wells, people writing non-fiction books, in some cases a hundred years ago, saying we'll genetically engineer people, we'll drug the population, we'll set up a world government.
If we have to, we'll nuke countries and make them, we'll end the family.
So it's impossible for anyone to ever rebel against us.
This is how we'll do it.
We'll use the Roman model of breaking the men and women up and setting the women up as the boss.
We'll call it feminism.
Bernays wrote about this.
Department of War was actually hired in the 20s to break up the family.
They said the families are too strong, we can't lower American education level, we gotta defeat these people.
And he wrote books about this, you can go read it, Propaganda and others.
We need you to break up the family, how are you gonna do it?
And he said, well, we'll tell women it's stylish.
To have lots of sexual partners and we'll tell men it's stylish and we'll have leaders we pay that are seen as cool call for feminism and they'll march and smoke cigarettes because then you can sell cigarettes to them as well and make some money as a side issue.
He said thousands of things.
They implemented and totally got it.
And he said then that way you'll get your goal of having the women all working too so that they can pay double taxes.
And so the state will raise the kids.
That is your goal, correct?
And they had these big conferences with all the German psychiatrists there.
Skull and Bones actually set all that up and funded that in the 1830s, 1840s.
The Charlotte Isserby talk, she has all the documents.
It's up at PrisonPlanet.tv.
It's in the special reports area.
It's just incredible.
Of course, her dad and grandfather were both Skull and Bones high level.
And you learn about it.
I mean, it's all dog training.
But the end game is not world government.
World government is only completing the gallows.
And then once the world government's complete, they march you up to the top, and of course they soft kill you.
You're like, why is Magic Johnson not get sick from HIV and doesn't take the drugs, but everybody else is?
Well, he said he was given the cure, if he would promote the fake cures.
I told you back then, 16 years ago, he was given the cure 20 years ago that he'd be just fine.
Because they have cures for everything they do to us.
And now he's lived, quote, 20 years with it and he's just fine.
My dad, reading medical literature, you know, when I was in high school and college, I would get real paranoid if I'd been promiscuous.
And he'd say, well, you shouldn't be doing it anyways, because it's bad and such and such.
But you can catch other diseases.
But he said HIV is a race-specific bioweapon.
It's very hard to get it.
Only time Caucasians get it is if they're already hemophiliacs or have debilitated immune systems.
And have used dirty drugs, methamphetamine and things that have been cooked up in bathtubs where they can't get the core ingredients so they have to use other toxic ingredients and don't properly separate off the heavy metals.
That then kills the T-lymphocytes or weakens them that would normally be able to recognize or fight off the HIV variant.
I'm like, how do you know all this?
He goes, oh, here's the literature.
It's all the doctors, the research scientists, they all know it.
My dad was going to school to be a research scientist, top of his class.
By high school he was already at MD Anderson working during the summers.
And then of course he met my mother.
She got pregnant and he wanted to fast track to just make some money, became a dentist.
But the point is, is that's why he's still into that stuff.
He reads all that literature.
So that's another reason I know all of this.
But this was known a long time ago.
Okay, so People look at this government like, oh, it's out of control, oh, it's corrupt.
Folks, there are congressmen that listen to this show.
You've heard them talk about how they listen.
And they're good people, by and large, but they're not even raising enough of a fit about domestic internal checkpoints that are Tenth Amendment violators, that are right out of a Third World dictatorship, that are dangerous, and that are bankrupting our country.
You know, they admit that in New York City, in the last decade, they've spent more than $20 b-b-b-b-billion You heard me right.
You can look this up.
In one year alone, they spent $6 billion on surveillance systems in New York.
You think that's just cameras?
I saw a report a few years ago where Boston spent a billion dollars in one year.
People won't believe it.
Type, Boston gets a billion dollars for security, from Homeland Security.
Boston gets a billion.
And I think it was another article, some others said, was it Chicago got 2 billion?
The point is, folks, 2 billion isn't just the cameras.
And finally, about a year ago, I heard KLBJ doing the local news, and they said, oh yes, federal grants are putting additional face scanning and license plate reading systems in Austin, and gunshot detectors.
They're not gunshot detectors.
They're microphones.
The company that got the grant in Congress that it says they're microphones, and they brag how they can listen to conversations at 200 yards away, how it's run through a digital algorithm, and how now, when they're able to get a sample of your voice print, Like when you talk into Google and it's voice identification, you know, when you want to find a website.
Uh, give me, uh, where movies are showing.
Uh, where's the thing showing tonight?
And it tells you, or it then takes you there.
They're getting your voiceprint right there attached to your phone.
Now you're walking, it hears you.
It goes into an AI system, it's recorded.
You think your cell phone can do powerful stuff?
What about fake transformer boxes and light poles just jam-packed with it?
They announced a year ago they're gonna have all of the regular mail-delivery USPS driving around with snooper systems grabbing all your data.
Again, getting intelligence on you.
Not because you're bad, but because they're criminals.
Oh, the idiot driving the vehicle is a compartmentalized fluoride head.
I'm talking about how it's all collated by the super-brain AI computers, which they now admit can predict individual activities 93% of the time.
They know what you're gonna do before you do it 93% of the time, because that system's mapped your subconscious decision-making processes.
They know when I'm not going to be able to control myself and pull into a steakhouse at 9 o'clock at night because I've been up here working and forgot to eat.
They know predictably before I pull into the steakhouse.
They know predictably when I break down every few months and pull in and buy a 12-pack of beer.
They know it all.
Now, is that freedom?
But remember all the people in the earlier level of programming, they were saying, oh, this will never happen.
That's big brother.
America's free.
We don't have that.
And now they're like, okay, yeah, they're listening to us.
What's wrong with that?
Are you a thought criminal?
What do you have to hide?
And it's peer pressure.
They get TSA, they get cops, they get military and domestic operations.
They get them all together.
They train them where the enemy.
They give them examples in the media of it, and they're ready.
Ladies and gentlemen, look, the Germans were extremely moral people in Germany pre-Hitler.
And he knew how to manipulate them, knew how to give them outside threats, knew how to, by increments, get them to do more and more, until the point the average German soldier would literally put a gun right to a two-year-old's head and blow its head off.
And I'm telling you right now, right now on the current track, within five to ten years, or even sooner when they stage a big terror attack, the police will do anything they're told.
The courts, and this is the key, listen to me carefully, when tyranny is going on at an early stage, People will deny it because it's scary and they're lazy.
They don't want to do anything about it.
But when it becomes overt and obvious, a lot of people don't really get into denial.
They get into another form of denial.
They decide to just shut up and keep quiet and go along with it.
Some decide to just try to stay out of it and sit on the fence.
Others decided to join with it.
Others decide to try to go along with it, and, well, maybe I can have some of this power.
If you can't beat them, join them.
As if you can make a deal with Hitler, or the devil, or Mao Zedong.
Statistically, that's even more dangerous, I found.
This system hates its own.
Number one threat, they say, returning veterans.
Number two, it's not in the documents they give cops, but I've confirmed from my intelligence sources, they say I'm dead on.
Cops are actually even higher.
The average cop is under total Pentagon surveillance.
I mean, you guys literally have got magnifying glasses on you.
And they think as you learn about this, you're going to be cowards and watch what you say and do.
Now it's illegal that they're listening to everything I do and building databases on me as a citizen.
But you know what, at the end of the day?
Good, I hope all the scum's listening.
Because I'm going to sit here and you're going to laugh today, but next week you're going to hear your wife's got stomach cancer at 52.
Maybe then you'll go check cancer statistics.
Maybe then you'll go read Rockefeller documents, how they did it.
Maybe then you'll get angry and realize that your wife being murdered in front of you.
Or you're going to learn you've got pancreatic cancer next week.
I guarantee you, there's government people listening right now, statistically, who are going to be diagnosed with cancer.
This isn't some preacher magically doing it, I know statistically.
You're going to, there are a lot of you feds listening right now, who are compartmentalized, who are going to be dead in three months.
Car wrecks, you name it.
But a lot of you have already been soft killed.
A lot of troops that have worked around DU, you're going to be dead soon.
And right now you feel like you're part of the system.
You feel like, you know, America's good, you're doing a good job, and I'm a crazy person.
But, the key is before you die, you can wake up and wake up others.
You understand that?
The tripling in the last 20 years, the doubling in the last 10 years of diabetes, cancer doubling, tripling, just death all around us.
But it's not the big news item like Herman Cain and all these Democratic operative women saying he grabbed on them.
I don't like Herman Cain.
I've seen him lie with a straight face and say, I didn't call people that want to audit the Fed dumb when he's in his book saying it, when he's on radio saying it.
And I said, man, that's a good liar.
People that work for Axelrod.
People that constantly make these claims as part of a business model.
It's a bunch of bull.
I mean, I know a lot of men who don't cheat on their wives, but still will flirt with women.
I mean, he might've, but some of them said, hey, baby, you're looking good.
I mean, when Bill Clinton was settling cases with women that said he raped them, the feminists were defending him.
See, it's just a political tool.
So no, I can't get up here and talk about things that don't matter and are huge distractions as world government's being announced, as the world economy's imploding today.
We got guests coming up on that.
And as a total surveillance grid goes in with tens of billions of dollars a year of federal grants.
I'm talking billions in major cities.
That makes North Korean surveillance.
I saw somebody comment and say, we're not worse than North Korea.
I'm saying in the respect of surveillance we are.
We still have the free speech because we've always exercised it, but now they're trying to take that.
Let's go to this short clip from Fox News in the Carolinas.
After they admit the microphones are going up around the country, they say, well, even if they are, you'll never know.
See, there's that arrogant in-your-face attitude.
Here's that clip.
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We talked to the Deputy Chief of Homeland Security here in Charlotte.
He says if the city installed streetlights with surveillance abilities, you would never know.
Now, let's go ahead and go to a clip from Police State 2000 from 1999, but actually the news article is from 98.
I'm going from memory.
It'll be on screen in a moment.
Now, I already knew about this and got the purchase order sent to me by an engineer who was involved putting them in.
I'll leave it at that.
Get a lot of stuff leaked to us.
Now we're drowning in it.
And he said...
They're putting microphones up in lampposts and in transformers and cameras.
And here's the company, and I went and found the company bragging to government that, yeah, we can listen to people 200 yards away.
Then the statesman was forced to report on it, but they said they're gunshot detectors.
Of course, they've never used them for gunshot detecting in East Austin when there's gunshots.
They're microphones, and they use them to listen to people.
And they've been putting them in more and more to where every neighborhood's got them, parks have got them, it's everywhere.
So see, they're now just getting ready to tell the slaves.
But here's a clip from Police State 2000.
It's not just armor that local law enforcement from state agencies to local police departments are getting.
No, my friends, it's listening devices.
Of course, the excuse is to find the location of gunshots, but the designers openly admit it can also be used to listen to your conversations and triangulate your position.
Just consciously think about this for a second.
Listening devices.
And I almost forgot, in tandem with cameras, all federal funding.
Repeat, all federal.
Armored personnel carriers, helicopters, foreign troops, practicing with local police, with our military.
And in Austin, Texas, and many other cities I've visited, I have noticed that many of the cameras aim into the neighborhoods.
I'm not kidding.
Time and time again, they are not focused on... We'll be back.
We'll be back with me warning you about EAS and federal checkpoints.
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It's just, it's so painful to know I'm right, to understand this, to study it, and to have been there so many times and watched Marines trying to take our guns, and to have cameramen in places like Hebron, Maryland, where Marines came up with guns and said, don't videotape us.
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Does that mean the average cop's a bad person?
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And the bankers have committed all these crimes.
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Now they've got to keep it.
Let's go to this next clip and then to your calls.
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If they're attacked, well that just guarantees the West will probably attack them then because they want that political distraction.
I mean, that's why they're getting it ready with the checkpoints and things.
This is the excuse to really, really take liberties while the banks rape us.
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But right now, let's go to Chris in New York, then Rudy, and others.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hi Alex, it's kind of timely to have Michael Ben-Erik on.
Last week Jesse Ventura said he would consider running under the third party if they asked him.
So I emailed everybody in the Libertarian Party I could find email addresses for and just threw that idea behind them to see if they knew it.
Not many of them really knew that idea, but they do now.
So I don't know if you can put the Libertarian Party and Jesse in the same room or on the same phone line and get them Yeah, no, I thought about this morning.
We have it all written up nicely with the video link of Jesse Ventura talking about it.
If you go to InfoWars.com, it's poll, Ron Paul third party bid can transform 2012 election.
And it goes on to say Paul Ventura ticket would pose greater threat than Ross Perot's 92 campaign.
And they've got ballot access.
And if Ron Paul doesn't win the Republican nomination, if it's not clear he's going to get it here in about three months, we'll know by March, it's time to supercharge.
But they should have Ventura in the wings ready if Paul doesn't do it.
So it's a powerful one-two punch.
This article breaks down all the numbers.
We're going to cover it later in the hour.
Get this article out to everyone.
Ron Paul's also won another big straw poll, and he came in second in another big poll, only to Romney.
Very, very exciting news.
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I don't have the contact that you do, so if you can kind of maybe get them together, you know, it would definitely be helpful.
Yeah, no, they should encourage him to seek the Libertarian Party nomination for president.
We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen.
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Can you imagine Ventura in the debates with somebody like Herman Cain and Obama?
Oh my gosh.
Or Mitt Romney.
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If the Libertarian leadership Uh, contacts him and basically just shows him the ropes and, uh, shows him a little bit of interest.
Quite frankly, the way the Libertarians work anyways is, Ventura should just go in there and do it himself.
But, uh, obviously, I know they've approached Ron Paul a few weeks ago and they said, we'd like you to come over here if you're gonna have a third-party run.
Ron Paul has said he has no intention of that right now, but he's leaving it open and might do it if he doesn't win the Republican nomination.
And he's gotta say that, because then they'll say, you're not really a Republican, you're not serious, when he's number two or number three in every poll.
And people will say, well, what would you do if Ron Paul got the nomination and then Ventura was over there?
Well, Ventura would just run as an auxiliary to kind of educate people about libertarian ideas and expose the TSA and probably just throw his support behind Ron Paul.
The point is, is that they've reached out to Ron Paul.
They should reach out to Ventura.
And then we'll know by the time that that election process happens.
It happens after March.
And by then, we'll know if Ron Paul is going to win in the primaries or not.
I mean, they'll probably try to cheat him in New Hampshire like they already did, and we'll see what happens in a few other states, but he's a lot stronger than last time.
And then if it doesn't look like he's going to do it, by staying in there, he's educated folks, injected real ideas, been in the debates, show what true libertarian constitutionalism is, he punches out, runs as a libertarian.
And Ventura's ready to run as his VP.
He's already said that.
You know, the Libertarian Party gets somebody like Aaron Russo, or somebody like Bob Barr, or somebody like Michael McNair.
Those are all great people.
Prominent, well-known, great men.
But Ventura's even more known, and he's great in a stump speech, and he's got very Libertarian views.
Extremely Libertarian when it comes to fiscal.
Libertarian, liberal-edged.
But I mean, he's right in the middle of the Libertarians.
And I'm telling you, it is a power-packed duo.
I know politics.
But regardless, if Ron Paul, who's already saying he's retiring but doesn't win, fades off, can you imagine Ventura?
I mean, look, look.
Here is John McCain today.
In fact, I'll show you a document cam shot of this.
This is out of Reuters.
Fed up.
McCain predicts rise of third political party.
No kidding.
In some polls, it's more than 80% are mad at both parties.
9% approval rating for Congress.
They are ready for something new.
Well, it's gotta be viable, like Libertarians.
It's gotta be viable candidates.
It's gotta be somebody with name recognition.
And not somebody like Newt Gingrich running on a third party.
McCain predicts rise of third political party, says the public's totally angry that it's gonna happen.
Ron Paul third party bid could transform 2012 election.
Paul Ventura ticket would pose greater threat than Ross Perot 92 campaign.
Ross Perot went up to above 30%, then they threatened his family, he backed out.
When he began, he was at about 5%.
In national polls, Ron Paul is polling at 18% in the latest scientific poll.
I've seen him as high as 30.
He does much better against Obama in every poll than any other Republican.
He's a true constitutionalist.
He'll end the Federal Reserve.
He'll cut back all these wars and military and this globalism.
He's against the New World Order.
He is the antidote to the cyanide at this level.
And again, even if he doesn't win, he wins by putting out real issues, exposing the real enemy.
So, Mark Henkel is the head of Libertarian Party right now, and Jesse Ventura just wants to be shown around.
And then he says he'll go through the process.
So, imagine for the Libertarian Party, who's got ballot access and all this, what a Ventura candidacy, or even him involved in the caucus would do.
Imagine.
In fact, maybe he'd want to be vice president to somebody.
He already said he was for Ron Paul.
He just wants to be able to inject real issues.
He is perfect.
And some have said the Libertarian Party has had infiltrators in it over the years to make sure it didn't get going.
Because it is the strongest third party out there with ballot access and millions of voters.
So, if they don't reach out to Ventura at least, and I don't know Chris Hinkle from a hole in the ground, I'm sure he's a great guy.
In fact, his background looks good.
Yeah, Mark Hancolt.
Was I calling him?
Chris Hinkle, it doesn't matter, I'm brain-dead.
Chris Hinkle, or Mark Hinkle, see I don't know him from a hologram, I don't even know his name.
Mark Hinkle.
I was trying to pull it up here, I was going from memory.
You can go to mark4chair.com, I guess that's his website when he was running to be the Libertarian Party head, and then contact him, and contact the entire Libertarian, people are like, how do we contact him?
Type in Libertarian Party, then it gives you links to their site, then you click on their site, on the Libertarian National Committee, and it gives you all the people on the committee, and there it is.
Now, perfect timing for the rest of the hour and five minutes into the next hour to have Michael Bagnarik, a good friend of mine, former Austinite, narrowly, he actually died, survived a heart attack, I guess it was a year and a half ago or so now, He's an American software engineer, political figure, former radio talk show host.
He was a Libertarian Party nominee for President of the United States in 2004 elections and placed fourth in the race nationally by an independent Ralph Nader.
Two years later, he ran as Libertarian Party candidate in 2006 congressional elections for the 10th congressional district seat.
McNair's political philosophy emphasizes individual liberty, personal responsibility, and strict adherence to Uh, the original interpretation of the U.S.
Constitution.
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Constitutionpreservation.org is his great website.
We're going to get into all the new horrors, the open overthrow of the Constitution now.
It's in full flames right now.
We're going to get his view on everything that's happening, his take on it.
But first, Libertarian Party, I mean, they've got a responsibility, I think, to run a really hardcore, focused candidate who will be an activist and who will attack the police state.
Ventura has really woken up now.
I've seen his policies as governor.
He was a maverick, a real guy, but not very well informed at the time.
Now he is.
You just heard my rant, Michael, about him.
What do you think he should do?
Because he's wanting to be contacted by the Libertarians.
And again, folks, imagine Ron Paul's a lot better known than Ross Perot.
Ross Perot was hardly known when he first ran.
Ventura is super well known.
I mean, these are both dynamite candidates.
And again, I know Ventura, if Ron Paul was to get the nomination and Ventura was already going as a libertarian, they would just become an auxiliary of Ron Paul while building up the Libertarian Party.
Alright, well, it's just everybody's calling me now that Ventura said this yesterday on the show and last week and Ventura hadn't been contacted or they don't know how to get a hold of him.
And so all of that's going on.
And so now I'm getting emails, phone calls.
People are like, get it, get it going, get it going.
So I'm just going to try to make sure that that these these groups meet up and that this happens because there's no time like the present, especially because Ventura is going to have to stay here and not go to Mexico.
If he bites on this and he's ready to do it.
I mean he's angry believe me He's told me Alex.
I'm gonna ride off into the sunset like George Washington to his farm I'm sick of this, but now he's angry and he's ready to run for president Okay, Ventura is ready ready ready ready strike while the iron's hot Well, I'll be sure to put you in touch with Mark Hinkle after the program awesome you are a sweetheart, okay?
Okay, Michael Bagnerik, again, let's give out his website, constitutionpreservation.org.
I'm going to come back with some of my questions, but later in the hour and then calls.
What is on your radar screen, front and center right now, Michael?
I've got a new menu item on my website for projects.
I'm involved in something called Free America Now.
One of the things that people have said for years is we need to have an umbrella organization that will combine the Constitution Party, the Libertarian Party, all these libertarian, all these liberty-minded groups.
Nobody wants to have an umbrella group over them.
So the Free America Now is kind of like a support group to all of those other organizations.
We want to provide resources and education and literature to help make each of those groups more efficient at So you're there to turbocharge all the other attack cruisers or wolf packs going up against Big Brother.
Michael Bagnierix, our guest, joining us via video Skype.
You can watch us right now at InfoWarsNews.com.
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Again, the Congressional Budget Office sounds the alarm.
This time warns of Greek-style U.S.
debt crises.
You heard me right.
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I'm going to have you stay on video Skype, but go to your home phone number if we can, or perhaps get your computer closer to you during a break, Michael, because I really want to be able to fully understand everything you're saying.
But I heard most of it.
I totally concur.
They're now trying to finish A plan that they had over another 10, 20 years.
They're trying to speed it up right now because they realize we're waking up to them.
Because, I mean, Zbigniew Brzezinski last year told the CFR, he said, the world is awake and staring at the elite for the first time in history.
We're in trouble.
And so now they're just dispensing with it's for your own good and saying, hey, we're basically authoritarian thugs.
Be scared of us.
I mean, is that what you're saying?
Okay, great.
They're trying to fix this connection.
With Michael Bagnerik with us today, and I also want to go to your phone calls with him today.
I tell you, it is just so overt.
And now to see mainstream media try to go, it's reasonable to secretly record people and have microphones and cameras.
It's reasonable to have the TSA stick their hands down your five-year-old's pants.
And then they say, you know, we'll stop doing that.
And then they, the next day, search all children.
And they just go, we're not going to stop.
Michael, go ahead.
So this is an attempt to intimidate us or to finish their program?
I mean, the search is meant to intimidate you into taking the scanner, but in a way, by resisting them, it makes them do something just as bad and exposes them.
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Michael, you were making a point as we went to break, and when you're done making that point, I want to ask you, I mean, the system knows what they're doing, and they know they've created the derivatives between corporate megabanks and government.
They know they're going to use the crises to offer their world government as the solution.
Now that's all out in the open.
Whereas years ago, you and I would be attacked for even talking about it because we were informed and the public wasn't.
We were trying to inform them.
And now all over the country, You just pull up and they're looking at you like you're being inducted into a maximum security prison and they jerk families out of cars, they search and it's all for your safety because you're guilty until proven innocent because government's got to protect you from terrorists when you got a better chance of dying in a car wreck or a bolt of lightning or a bee sting or Snake bite, then being killed by terrorism, then you look at terrorism and you find out most of it's manufactured and staged or provocateured.
The underwear bombers put on the plane, the shoe bombers put on the plane, the Fort Hood shooters protected, Al-Qaeda's given control by NATO of Libya.
I mean, it's incredible.
So Michael Bagnerik, libertarian activist, talk show host, author.
Uh, I think you hit the nail on the head.
People are angry.
I'm on talk shows all the time and they say, okay, I get it.
You're right.
I thought you were crazy.
I mean, I get this every day when I do interviews.
You're right, it's all true.
Mancow Mueller this morning, he goes, what do I do?
And so I'm going to do some news reports in the next week or so about what we do from my perspective.
But people are all looking for some magic bullet.
It's about rediscovering liberty, becoming an activist, waking others up, making personal decisions about what you eat, what you buy, who you support.
And spreading the culture of liberty, setting brush fires in the minds of men and women, just like the decades of committees of correspondence before the Revolutionary War.
We've got the people awake now, but we've got to fully inform them now, and then start moving forward.
Well, I'm sure this happens to you, Alex, where people come up to you and say, Alex, all you have to do is... and then they give you their favorite idea.
What I tell people is, don't tell me what I have to do.
Go out and find the resources, make it happen, and then come back after you've been successful so that I can congratulate you.
You know, you and I and Ron Paul, Jesse Ventura, the four of us can't restore liberty alone.
We need all of those people out there, those Americans, to do their part of the job.
One of the things I was about to say was that Muammar Gaddafi is recently eliminated.
But months ago, they took him out of the Capitol.
And, I mean, any rational person would have been hiding on a desert island, using some kind of a mask to change their name.
But when you're a sociopath, you just cannot conceive of losing power.
And Muammar Gaddafi stayed around until they actually found him.
I think that there are people like that in the American government who think they can get away with anything.
That they can continue to intimidate us, continue to do our checkpoints, to frisk our young children at the airports, and that Americans will continue to tolerate that type of activity.
And you and I both know that we will not tolerate it forever.
That's what we're seeing now with all these protest rallies.
And what I try to do is I try to give people practical things that they can do.
The first thing that I recommend is they store up on food and make sure that they can feed their immediate family.
Convert their paper money to silver and gold or some commodity that they can trade when the you know the economic breakdown happens I also recommend strongly that they have some sort of a gun with ammunition so they can protect the food in silver and Finally I get them to network With their neighbors.
When you and I were growing up, Alex, we knew the neighborhood, all the parents in the neighborhood knew us, and there was a camaraderie there, a neighborhood.
Now, people live on the same block or in the same apartment building, but they don't know who their neighbors are.
And so I recommend that they start to network with people, get to know them and trust them before the emergency happens.
And again, you join us from a hotel lobby, I guess, so that's why people can hear a little bit of background noise there.
But it's kind of quaint, so I like it.
It shows the reality of you out there on the road fighting the New World Order.
Again, our guest right now is Michael Bagnerik.
Michael, expanding on all of this, I agree with you.
I think that analogy or that parallel with Gaddafi, he really thought And he stood up for six months that he would end up winning.
And he fought to the bitter end because these guys do tend to get delusional.
And this system thinks with all this high-tech surveillance and all this intimidation, they're going to win.
But I've got news for them.
At a certain point, people stopped caring.
And that's what's happened in Mexico.
The government and the other drug cartels allied with it are fighting against other people that just don't care, and have basically embraced a culture of macho death worship, and the whole country's going to hell in a handbasket.
And that's what's going to happen across the West, as people just can't take it anymore.
I mean, government, from what I've read and seen, I saw a police chief had met a few years ago that was Baltimore, that they wear black uniforms to intimidate people and mask.
Well, let's understand, it's not intimidating most people.
Sure, some sheeple it does.
It's making people hate you.
It's making people see you as a threat, and then you act like one.
And then you act like somebody in Nazi Germany.
And so the opposite is happening.
People, it's actually getting people out of their catatonic stupor.
I mean, as long as the globalists were just siphoning off money and doing all these corrupt things and launching foreign wars and hiding the coffins, this could have gone on for a long time.
But the fact that they want to squat on us and spit in our faces and boss us around all day, it's having the opposite effect.
So I guess you're saying they're basically delusional?
It's really hard to put a label on, because who is government?
I mean, government is a compilation of lots and lots of people.
I'm sure that there are some people in government who still believe that they are doing the right thing, and they are... I mean, if you and I could sit down with them, they would be on our side and they would realize what's going on.
But they have been trained that they just need to keep on doing the thing, be the cog in the wheel, make sure that nothing bad happens.
One of the things that people are afraid of is to stand up for themselves.
There is a county sheriff project that is underway.
Sheriff Richard Mack, I'm sure you know, is trying to organize 200 sheriffs to come to Las Vegas in January to teach them about the Constitution, to teach them about their responsibility and their oath of office.
Richard has invited me to come and assist by giving a presentation on the Bill of Rights.
What we need, we need your listeners to go to CSPOA.
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letting them know that these county sheriffs are not going to tolerate federal intrusion into the counties.
Well, I have a clip we're going to play here in just a few minutes where the police to occupy protesters that are just at a park.
They're told you're not allowed to be here.
It's the penal code.
And they say, what about the Constitution right to assemble?
And they say, that's trumped.
By the penal code, and they just make up these penal codes, they just make up these regulations.
And now I see police all over the country and I see cases where judges say, don't bring the Constitution in my courtroom.
And I see police and their training manuals being taught it's bad, but the Constitution is what they swear an oath to.
I mean, it's like those police training manuals we put out years ago that we were sent, where it says, Don't trust someone and prepare to arrest someone who makes frequent references to the U.S.
Constitution.
And then we have footage of state police pulling Abby Newman over, no criminal record, naval veteran, in town, in rural Virginia going to buy canning equipment.
And they first see a Patriot Games video with Harrison Ford on it.
And they're so afraid of the phantom menace of patriots that they get scared.
Oh, we gotta search you.
Oh my God, she's got a Patriot Games VHS tape.
Harrison Ford, frightening.
The word patriot.
Then they find a pocket constitution and they start actually hyperventilating.
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And they start hyperventilating and going, I can't believe we got one.
And one kind of leans on the car and goes, and it's like a Saturday Night Live skit.
Like where they find a baby kitten and they're crawling up the wall in fear and urinating on themselves from the baby kitten.
And they put her in handcuffs and take her to jail.
And she went to court and got off for resisting.
She didn't resist.
They grab her and she goes, ah, don't take me to jail.
You know, kind of that involuntary pull back.
And they go, we'll get you for that.
And they're sitting there going, is she allowed to have this?
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A friend of mine was running for office and wanted to pass out copies of the Constitution on the university campus.
The university would not allow it unless he put labels on each of the copies of the Constitution that said the university does not necessarily endorse the content of this material.
I wouldn't have believed it, Alex, if I hadn't seen it myself.
And we have been losing that war because the bad guys change the definitions.
They use these terminologies like assault rifle.
And they give it this bad connotation.
And the rest of us just kind of accept these terms.
And we've been defeated before we even start.
You and I have been pushing the ideas of liberty.
Individual rights, private property, personal responsibility.
Those are the ideas embodied in the Constitution.
And I think those ideas are starting to take hold again.
In the movie V for Vendetta, the hero says, you cannot kill an idea.
But you can let it die.
If most of us stop thinking about liberty and freedom and private property, then the socialist communists, they win.
And so I think we are seeing a huge resurgence of this idea that private property is sacred and that the government works for us, not the other way around.
The founders didn't like eminent domain because they knew it would turn into taking land and not fully paying for it, or taking land if it wasn't 100% absolutely needed.
And now all over the country, they take land and don't even pay you 10 cents on the dollar.
I saw that in the Connecticut cases a few years ago, where they would, if you challenged them in court and didn't take 25 cents on the dollar, they would actually charge you for the legal fees when you lost, and take your house, bulldoze it, nice houses.
Some of the houses were four generations old, family, and on those big triple deckers.
And they just took it.
I mean, it's getting crazy.
My dad, a few years ago, was sent the Texas Landowners' Bill of Rights.
They called it rights, and it said, we're gonna let you know Texas has changed the regulations, that if anybody wants to put a pipeline across your property, or the government wants to put power lines up, or they want to take it, you're given six weeks to accept the terms.
And if you don't accept that term, we just take it.
And, wow, I got those rights.
Well, thank you for informing me of that.
I take what you offer, or bye-bye.
And then now all over the country, they're saying, well, you lived on this lake for 80 years in one case, and your parents grew up here.
Yeah, we're gonna, we're gonna, oh, you don't want to fly?
Well, we're gonna set up checkpoints and grope your wife there!
And then these cops get together and they, like, just arrogantly walk over and do it.
And I'm like, why are you staring at me like I'm a criminal?
You just randomly walked off the highway.
I got some place to go, and you're waddling over here with your eyes trying to intimidate me.
And instead, I want to throw up on you.
You, you, you, you sorry excuse for a, for an American.
You disgrace.
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And then the stations will have to refund the money to the sponsors because somebody's going to take some of the time.
Now, for 50 years, they've just made you put in a box that you dial to during an emergency to get the nuclear attack alert.
Sounded reasonable.
Now they've announced the government's going to be breaking in with announcements.
And they said six months ago, Federal News Radio said Obama would have a 30-minute speech for you about how he's going to start breaking in on your cell phones with text messages, video messages, and on jumbo screens on street corners, commons, Walmarts, shopping malls, and grocery stores. Walmarts, shopping malls, and grocery stores.
And that's all going in.
We've shown you the video.
It's on the news.
You are in a science fiction horror movie.
It's 2011.
It is happening.
But because of outrage, big sis is in the news.
She actually says, don't worry.
That's the headline.
Don't worry.
It's only a test.
But the stations don't even have a choice under their civil regulations to dial over to the system.
And report that the system's taking over.
The government is wired in at the towers now and is going to be breaking in Michael Bagnerik in T-minus 9 minutes and 30 seconds here.
But because everybody got so upset...
They're now only gonna make it 30 seconds and it won't be our dear, gracious leader, Kim Jong Obama.
Oh, but on the internet soon they'll take over as well, but not yet.
You'll still hear us there.
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So perhaps we'll hold back Narek I know he's out there in a hotel lobby and it's noisy, but I don't care.
I want to talk to him a little bit in the next hour so we can take some of these calls ahead of Paul Craig Roberts joining us.
But you heard me getting into the issue of EAS.
I was told by engineers and by high-level Texas Association of Broadcaster People that they've been in meetings, this is years ago, and were told the feds are going to start taking over programming.
Then Obama announced this six months ago he's going to have a talk He's gonna personally give a speech in the test.
Now they've pulled back from that.
But the point is, they're really trying to get us ready for this, Michael.
It means that Americans are going to have to stand up.
If we sit back and just allow it to happen, we're going to be a second Holocaust.
We're going to end up having people say, well, this should never happen a third time.
Well, it shouldn't have happened the first time.
It should never happen again.
And it's going to take people to stand up and be brave and do the right thing.
So continuing to listen to you, but getting out there and being in all of these different liberty organizations would certainly help. - Well, here's an example.
I know every day we have about three million viewers and listeners one way or another that listen.
Okay, I'm selling our bumper stickers at cost right now and I almost don't even want to plug that because it's brought the whole shipping department to a standstill.
I had to hire two more people just to get the bumper stickers out at cost.
So now I'm losing money because I had to hire more people to even be able to ship it.
So I'm gonna have to go up a little bit because the two new shippers.
It's insane back there, plastering them all over the place.
But what about folks making their own bumper stickers, or their own signs, or their own banner hangs, or their own local newsletter, or calling to talk radio, or go to city council?
I mean, everybody has this image that they've got to overturn the system themselves overnight.
Do an AXS TV show.
Study the Constitution.
Start speaking to police officers.
When you see cops doing something wrong, videotape them.
Put it on YouTube.
It's about all of us doing a little bit every day, Michael.
And again, these people need to come up with their own ideas, join the organizations that are already there, contribute to Ron Paul, find Liberty candidates in your area, and don't just send them a small check.
Get out there and volunteer.
Walk the neighborhoods.
Talk to your friends, your family, your neighbors.
You'll only hear us when we come back on the internet for some stations, because it was going to be Obama completely taking over, but now they're just going to take over without the station's control here in just a moment.
The system was set up by President Harry Truman back in 1951 as a top-down chain of communication for civil defense, but he never used it.
In fact, the system was only activated nationwide once, by accident, back in 1971, warning television stations to prepare for an announcement from the White House.
The emergency alert system is primarily used for severe weather warnings.
They didn't even do it on Fox, but she said it was coming.
It was all edited and ready.
These people are insane.
And notice, oh, Harry Truman did it.
No, that would be one local station that during an emergency the signal went out and other stations would tune to it.
Now because of communication, this only allows dictatorship and control.
It's going to be citizens on the ground.
They're going to be able to report what's really happening.
But that way, if something's sort of coming out the government doesn't want, they hit one button and they admit it's internet, it's cell phones, it's everything.
This test is of cable, UHF, VHF.
What'd you say, Jaren?
Okay, Bagner, it's back.
So she just said the test was there, but it wasn't.
And I've got my crew and they're recording it on radio in places where it's happening.
And again, you've always heard this before, but just since 96 did they have it where the government could do it themselves.
But they always sent out pre-signals to make sure you had it hooked up.
Then the board operator would flip over to that channel when it went live.
That's that only a test thing.
And in the future, it's going to be guns are evil.
We're looking for this homeless person.
This person's a terrorist.
They admit that license plates are going to have it.
They're going to be digital computer screens and show you wanted people like something out of Minority Report.
But there she was saying it's no big deal.
It's never been used except by accident, not even on 9-11.
But now our gracious leader wants to come and talk to you.
But now they backed off.
Uh, and said Obama won't make the announcement, they're just gonna break in and test it.
And no one government, they're so idiotic, maybe it failed, because I didn't see it on Fox.
I'll go out and find out, uh, from our guys recording local radio, uh, and TV, what happened during the next break.
We're going to come back with one more segment with Michael Bagnerik.
Talk more about what he's doing to light the fires of liberty around the country and the world.
Your phone call straight ahead.
Our IT guy did just listen to The local NPR station, 90.5, he said it was garbled disaster.
So the feds are testing taking over without having the local station flip to the system.
These are the systems wired in at the towers.
And the feds are taking note the radio stations didn't do what they were supposed to.
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They've got all these Homeland Security videos branding white conservatives as the terrorists.
Uh, it's amazing.
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People need to understand that we're going to your calls.
This isn't a game.
The tyranny we're already living under is only the setup for the real takeover.
That's why I've been so desperate.
That's why I can work 18 hours.
Well, I worked, uh...
I worked 22 hours one day this week.
There were a lot of days the last week, but one day I worked 24 hours.
Another day I worked 22 hours.
A lot of days it's been 18 hours.
And people ask, how do you have this energy, folks?
It'd be like if I was in Nazi Germany in 39 and they said, why do you have all this energy?
Because if I don't abandon ship, I gotta fight.
I mean, I'm dead if we don't beat these people.
And see, I don't think you're a coward.
People say, why are you scaremongering?
I'm not.
If I tell you, hey, don't go out on that balcony.
It's about to collapse, and I've got a 50-story balcony, and you go out on the balcony and it's all rotten and you fall through it.
By the way, that's happened in real life before.
I'm not being a fear monger.
I'm like, don't go on the balcony.
It's rotten.
It's about to be replaced.
It's about to collapse.
It was condemned.
I'm going to have it fixed.
And you run out there and go, no, it's nothing wrong.
I'm not being a fear monger.
I was at the beach a few weeks ago, three weeks ago, Texas Beach, and it was about 7 a.m.
I went out there to swim by myself, the kids were still asleep, and my wife, and there was a person jogging on the beach, and they said, you better watch it, there's a bunch of jellyfish out there right now.
And I saw a few Portuguese man-of-war, and I'm like, eh, whatever, that guy's a wimp.
They didn't have a flag up, a purple flag showing that, they had a yellow flag.
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Because I was by a little scuba dive with, you can hear McNair in the background, with jellyfish.
I've been stung many times.
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The point is, the guy wasn't being a fear monger.
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Watch out.
And here we are saying, look out, this stuff's coming down.
This stuff's happening.
This stuff's going on.
We know what this is.
And then everything we've talked about so far is happening now.
I'm telling you what's coming next.
Stuff that makes this look like a joke.
Michael Bagnerik, what's your view on the wake-up call for America and the world?
My grandmother has a paid-for home for something like a decade or whatever, and she can't pay the property taxes.
It's a little bitty.
Nice blue-collar house with a big backyard and they're saying, well, we're gonna make you pay $15,000 a year in property taxes because you've got a big backyard and they built condos two miles from here and potentially, you know, you could sell this and it's not even zoned for that.
But it's just and I know a bunch of people who may have to sell their house because of the property taxes, Michael.
They've had the same thing here in Northwest Indiana.
They've built a number of casinos nearby and I think the casinos are trying to force people out of their property by raising the taxes to the point where they can't afford them.
That way the casinos can move in and purchase the property at ultra low prices.
And if folks want to gamble, that's your business, but don't always make us pay for the attractions around it.
You know, the venues and things with our tax money.
The mafia can pay for it with all the families they destroy with all their gambling and all the poor people where the kids don't get food because they cash their check and go buy lotto tickets from the filthy state of the drug-pushing, murdering government.
I want to go to phone calls here in this segment and the next with our guest, And I promise we're going to get to all of you here.
Julio, Joe, Clayton, everybody, with Michael Bagnerik.
But we've got the video of the radio in the studio with the emergency EAS alert system.
This was on a local country station.
And we've also, later tonight, have other videos of them screwing up on other stations.
This is the Feds.
Without the station getting the alert on the system and then flipping to it voluntarily, this is the government taking over.
And they're announcing in the future, this is just the beginning, they're going to have whole programs.
They were going to do this.
This was going to be Obama commandeering this show.
You wouldn't have been hearing it, but the stations and people got upset.
So it was only a 30 second message.
And again, you hear these all the time, but the station flips to it themselves.
We always said that was dangerous because it would lead to this.
Here it is.
It goes on and on.
So longer than 30 seconds, they said.
That's it looping back on itself.
And they make the radio stations, some small ones I've talked to, spend tens of thousands a year with engineers just trying to comply with the reports and getting it hooked up right.
Now the feds are just going to break in whenever they want.
They have five times more likely than any other group in criminology.
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If only 1% of those people contacted the Ron Paul campaign and asked to get involved, they have a program where you can make calls on behalf of Ron Paul from your house.
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That's like you got the death penalty and you're going to be executed in two days and you don't think you got a fair trial.
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So, yeah... You know what?
Tonight, we're gonna have a real con... I mean, he's one of the top experts out there I've talked to.
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I thought when the bankers got five trillion more in Europe, it would fix all the problems.
Oh, they want more and they'll want more and more and more and more.
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As we're finishing off this agenda, they'll be pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.
I But, a lot of incredible things are obviously happening right now.
We just played video that Rob Jacobson shot in his car 34 minutes ago as he skipped through the channels showing every AM and FM station taken over simultaneously by the feds through takeover boxes in the last 15 years that have been put under federal regulations in all UHF, VHF cable, satellite, AM, FM.
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With the President saying, hello, just introducing myself, letting you know, that's because FEMA came out 6 months ago and said this, getting us ready for government text, government videos on our phones, government break-ins over our telephones, I forgot that point.
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It's not Central Park.
What's the name of the place in New York that's just total saturation of billboards and videos and flashing lights?
Yeah, Times Square, thank you.
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He is the former head of policy, Department of Treasury.
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He's the former, I mentioned, Wall Street Journal editor.
Also, he's a syndicated columnist.
And this stuff appears at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
And he predicted pretty much what's happening now, that it'd be a slow, long slide with currency wars going on, and that nothing could ever be fixed because we've been de-industrialized.
And that's the real issue, why you get college degrees and it's not worth it because there's not the jobs.
So I wanted to get him on to talk about the debt crisis.
They want trillions for 100 billion grisos.
Well, they haven't learned anything, have they Alex?
And so it continues to spiral out of control.
You said three, four years ago on the show it'd take three, four years to really, really start getting really bad if they didn't turn it around.
You know, the main problem, I think, for the Europeans is that the European Union centralizes trying to use the crisis in order to curtail the sovereignty of the individual countries.
So they were using the Greek crisis to take away the ability of the Greek government to decide its taxes, its spending, its budget.
And this is part of the creation of the European super-state.
And they were saying that the fact that the individual countries were not financially responsible was proof that they had to centralize the decisions of spending and taxing in Greece, Italy, and elsewhere in Brussels with the European Union bureaucracy.
So that's one of the problems.
It was being used to to create the super state.
Another way it's being used, Alex, is to establish the principle that the taxpayers have to bail out the big banks.
And so this produced a policy that made no sense from the standpoint of the ability of the indebted countries to survive or pay the debt.
So we saw all the riots, you know, in Greece, They were becoming quite violent, with people throwing Molotov cocktails at the police, and the Greek employment collapsed.
They have an official number like us, and our official number is 9%, which is as far as, and their official number is 16%, about double.
But the real rate of unemployment in Greece is about 25%.
that are educated are leaving the country.
There seems to be some migration from cities back to towns and the countryside.
Retail trade seems to be collapsing.
And so they've created the situation in which the Greeks have $465 billion in debt and there's no economy to pay it.
So, and now it seems to be spreading to Italy.
So I think that they'll continue with their folly.
And it's all falling back on the Germans.
How much are they willing to pay to bail out?
Or...
The European Central Bank will have to do what the Federal Reserve did, and just print the money to bail it all out.
And that, of course, has the inflation risk.
And so, there doesn't seem to be a solution, given the agendas that are in place.
Well, I, I think that when, uh, their agenda's don't make any sense and they can't reach a solution, you know, the Germans are frightened to death of inflation because of the rise of Hitler and all of that.
And so they won't be very receptive to the European Central Bank putting the money to bail out Greece. - Sure, sure, but doctor, speak up for us a little bit 'cause your phone's a little bit hazy.
How can our media now openly say they want to put microphones on all the street lamps listening to us?
And now TSA's announced, as I'm sure you know, checkpoints all over the country, jerking families out of their cars.
It's now happening, including to us.
How can this be?
And then they're on the news saying, the problem is, Europeans might vote their way out of this.
We've got to get rid of freedom.
I mean, they're really bringing this out in the open right now.
As I said, they're using the Greek crisis to destroy the sovereignty of the individual members of the European Union.
And of course, we have a police state here.
You know, what may happen if there's any intelligence in Germany is they simply exit the EU and form an alliance with Russia.
Because the Germans don't want inflation.
They don't want the debt.
They're financially responsible.
Russia has massive resources that fit very well with German industry.
And you would have a real powerhouse there, and the German-Russian economic alliance would, of course, bust up NATO and make it harder for the United States to run around causing new wars of aggression everywhere.
And I think probably some of them think about that in the back of their minds.
They probably are very reluctant to make such a fundamental break with the United States.
Uh, but, I don't think the Germans are happy with the prospect of inflation, and I don't think they're happy with the prospect of losing their own sovereignty to the European Union.
Because what they've seen with the European Union is debt's out of control, uh, banks are in control, and Yes.
Right.
way out is to print money and that's not anything that Germany is happy with.
So, but if they don't, if Germans stay in, then they'll face the same counter pressures to have interference in their budget policy, their taxing and spending.
and They'll be expected to somehow guarantee some of the bailout money.
And, as they're part of the Euro, if the European Central Bank rents Euros to buy up the debt to save the private banks, then Germany will be subject to the same inflation.
So, it's a lose-lose game for the Germans.
Saving Europe means worse for Germany.
So, I don't know whether they'll pay that price or not.
Dr. Roberts, studying this police state, if I was going to write a Kurt Vonnegut absurdist book about a clownish police state so over the top that it had to be satire, I would do what this ruling class is doing.
I mean, usually tyrants try to hide it or have excuses.
In this case, it's just naked.
I've studied psychological warfare manuals that have been declassified from the 60s and 70s.
They want to win the hearts and minds during a domestic takeover.
Instead, now, it's like they want to make us angry.
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act like bad guys.
And I guess for their morale, it might be fun to dress up in black outfits with black helmets and strut around.
But in my experience, it's not intimidating most people.
It's actually waking up folks that were on the fence and it's driving others into basically arms buildups.
And I think the hubris filled people running things do not have any idea what they've turned loose.
Because it's actually scaring me.
I'm not some macho guy that wants to see some giant uprising and war on the streets.
Or maybe that's what they want.
But I don't think it's going to go the way they want.
Because I've seen these government bureaucrats, and they're enforcers.
They're a bunch of wimps.
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But they're not going to be too tough when all hell breaks loose.
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I want to get your take on that and where you see America going, because you've tried to give people good ideas of how to turn the course, but is it too late to turn it around?
And where are we going?
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We got him on a bit late.
We'll see if it'll be five minutes of overdrive.
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So I agree with you that the establishment is the same, full of hubris, relying on force and violence, not just everywhere in the world, but also at home. but also at home.
They're going to use force and violence.
And so whether the people take it or not remains to be seen, doesn't it?
I mean, if we beat these people, we're going to look back on George W. Bush, Janet Napolitano as the Nazi-like, Mussolini-like, Pol Pot characters they are.
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They break down the economy, you name it.
But, looking at everything that's happening here, Doc, I mean, it's just, even when I'm awake, you're awake, it's still hard to believe it's this crazy.
And then to understand historically, if it follows the regular pattern, which it is, it's going to get 20 times crazier and it all kind of compresses down to a short period.
Well, it's the only sense you can make out of all the absurd claims that have come out of Washington.
You know, the notion of the Iranians going to assassinate the Saudi ambassador with a Mexican drug gang and a used car salesman.
It's like we've talked before, Alex, that the people in Washington think they can tell the American people anything and they'll believe it.
So we have the absurd story of a used car salesman and a Mexican drug gang.
And now we have the International Atomic Energy Agency under new leadership whose career track is to please the Americans so that they further his career.
And they've come up with some sort of really wishy-washy possibly Iran is studying how to make a bond.
We don't really know, but they might be.
And we're asking them for more information.
Blah, blah.
And this can be spun by the people in Washington to get more hysteria and try to build a case for attacking Iran, which they've been trying to do now for at least 10 years.
Well, I don't think they would be doing all of this if they didn't really intend to attack Iran.
They're just trying to set the stage so that it's acceptable.
I don't know why the Russians or the Chinese would go along with it, because it's not in their interest.
I don't even know why anyone in Europe would go along with it.
But they're now trying to Create more false intelligence like they did about Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction.
The non-existent weapons that they knew didn't exist.
They're pulling the same stunts now with Iran.
Well, that kind of a war is much more dangerous than how Europe going down the tubes, Greece, Italy, Spain,
How the United States economy going down the tubes, how they then handle some real war, a large-scale war with an opponent that could possibly fight back in some ways, maybe even cut off the straight-of-horn moves, the oil supply flows, who knows what would happen?
And who knows how provoked the Russians or Chinese would get it.
The whole thing is like you say, it's reached the point of insanity.
It's even worse than Hitler marching off into Russia.
I agree, it is a police state, and, uh, we'll just have to see if the people accept it.
I mean, you can see it coming because of all the staged, fake terrorists that the FBI would go out and organize so they could arrest, produce more scares.