Alex Jones hosts a July 29, 2011, broadcast where he and guests like Al Jourgensen debunk polar bear endangerment claims as fraudulent junk science while alleging the ATF is illegally turning gun dealers into informants to enforce stealth gun control. They debate whether gold or survival supplies offer better protection against an impending economic collapse orchestrated by globalists like the Rothschilds and Bush family, with Jones insisting precious metals hedge against hyperinflation while Jourgensen warns they attract marauders. Ultimately, the episode frames these events as a coordinated push toward a police state where physical survival gear outweighs currency in a coming tribalistic anarchy. [Automatically generated summary]
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I'm Alex Jones.
It is Friday.
Thank you for joining us.
There have been four new scandals, all as big as Climategate, several of them affecting the White House, proving more systematic, conscious, willing fraud.
Of course, I didn't need this stuff to come out and be admitted to know it.
They know polar bears are the best land-swimming animals.
Best land animals at swimming.
And there are lies about all these polar bears being found dead when the truth is their numbers are exploding all over the world from Russia and Northern Europe right into Canada and Alaska.
And London Telegraph reporter James Dillingpole is going to be joining us to talk about Polar Beargate and three other big enviro-fraud gates coming up in T-minus 30 minutes.
And then Al Jorgensen, the founder of Ministry, that I found to be very politically astute going back into the 1980s.
Very aware of the New World Order and of course an extremely popular band.
You know, really influenced a lot of the modern music that we see, both rock and roll, what you'd call techno, all this stuff, really big granddaddies of all of that.
And I noticed that there's a lot of people twittering around the office excitedly over the fact, I think almost everybody in the office, turns out, are big ministry fans.
And of course, a few years ago, they, with a lot of courage, came out with a 9-11 Truth album.
And if you go back to the early 1990s, they had albums out dealing with the New World Order.
It's about right and wrong, good and evil, sampling George Herbert Walker Bush and his world government calls.
And so the founder and frontman for ministry, Al Jorgensen, will be joining us in T-minus one hour.
Bob Chapman, of course, always joins us.
And boy, now is the time, every Friday to cover the week's economic news.
And the week ahead, this is the time to have Bob Chapman on the debt ceiling, open talk of the dollar being completely devalued.
The big ratings agencies that work for the private banking families holding the United States hostage, the mainstream corporate whore media that's really not mainstream anymore, the dying dinosaur media that still thinks it's dominant is a proper assessment and I myself have to stop using that term mainstream media.
They are running around lying Saying, oh my gosh, the people in the House, you know, they just want America to default.
No, no, there's a debate on how much taxes are going to be raised on who and what the spending cuts are.
But the media is just like, why won't the Republicans give in and do the right thing and not have the country go bankrupt?
And by the way, I'm not saying the Republicans are good either.
Their plan is better than Obama's, but that's like saying, well, Obama only wants to shoot you in the head 100 times, the Republicans only want to shoot the country in the head 90 times.
And Ron Paul's on record saying all of this is deck chair rearranging on the Titanic.
All of this is putting perfume on a pig or lipstick.
All of this is much ado about nothing.
It's really a question with the Republicans and Democrats to their banker masters, how are we going to skin this republic?
There's more than one way to skin a cat and how are we going to do it?
And the Republican plan is just cut off a little more of the slop to the public, who are already having the slop they're being given, being less and less through inflation and other things, and pay more to the foreign bankers.
And Obama says, no, let's rate more of the middle class and keep slopping.
Uh, the public.
I'll break it down when we come back.
And we've got all this other news.
Big TSA, police state news.
It's gonna be a power-packed info transmission today.
It is Friday, the 29th day of July.
2011, year of our Lord.
Stay with us.
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Now this man has made some outrageous predictions over the years.
The crazy part is, he's usually right.
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This is our last chance to not relive history.
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As they're finishing off this agenda, they'll be pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.
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We have a very informative and information-packed Friday edition.
Thank you for joining us on this 29th day of July, 2011.
I got a call...
Last night and today, from a gun dealer who I've known for many years, and he doesn't want to come on air, but it deals with the ATF and what they are secretly ordering gun shops to do around the country.
And of course you've heard that they Outside of law are just saying, well when you sell high-powered rifles or sell more than two, you're to call us and report on people.
And of course that's ridiculous because you're already going through the FBI NICS system and it's already all chronicled right there.
This is just about extrajudicial, outside of law.
They say jump, you say how high, boss.
It's called dictatorship.
Authoritarian command and control.
But there's even more than just that going on.
And we are getting the document.
He's been trying to get it to me for a day.
We're getting the specific document, and we should have that for you later in the broadcast today.
And of course, this is par for the course.
Obama launching a war in Libya without congressional approval.
Congress says, hey, we're supposed to give approval.
He says, I don't care.
Listening to talk radio this morning and monitoring television news and the internet news, the people are saying, Obama, use the 14th Amendment.
Use the Reconstruction power that was used against the states.
Ignore the Congress.
Take the power of the purse.
Turn us into an open empire and the office of the presidency being the figurehead system of dictatorship.
Fix the debt ceiling, save us, give us free gas, free houses you promised.
Deliver us into the international banker's hands.
Thank you for working with George Bush to sign us on to a thousand plus trillion dollars that we don't owe, and then beating us over the head all day with it, telling us that no one's social security checks or welfare checks or...
Welfare food stamp cards will stop working.
Save us, oh gracious!
Oh please, the head of your economic council's working hard to fix the economy by moving all of General Electric's main operations to China like Boeing and others are doing.
Oh yes, you will save us.
You care so much about us.
Please, please help us.
Please, please take our firearms.
It will be much better once you do that.
Please help us with government-run health care written by the insurance companies to force people to buy it and to have federal control over what procedures you can have, just like the National Health Service in England.
Here's a London Independent article dealing with this.
Cataracts, hips, knees and tonsils.
National Health Service begins rationing operations.
And it just goes on that you're not going to get the hip and knee replacements, unless we say so.
You're not going to get cataract operations.
You're not going to get tonsillectomies when you need them.
You're not going to get grommets to improve the hearing in children.
Yeah, I mean, you don't need a hearing aid.
Funding's also been cut in some of the IVF treatments for the national, and it just goes on and on here.
And of course, this has been going on for many years.
I remember six, seven years ago, I played clips here on air, because I happened to catch it and tape it somewhere in our labyrinth of unchronicled piles of hard drives and data tapes.
I watched a debate in the House of Commons, and they would get up, and Prime Minister's questions, and they would say, Prime Minister Blair, and then they would read the name of their constituents.
My constituents died two days ago.
Nineteen months ago, they requested the brain surgery that is 97% operable, done in the first month.
But instead, they waited more than a year and a half and died.
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Tony Blair, yes, I'm fully aware of that, and I'm just sorry.
My constituent had a broken leg and they would refuse to fix it.
It was a compound fracture.
They did not do the surgery and now they are dying of gangrene.
Had to have the leg removed.
I'm sorry, that's just the way it is.
And you get up here and you explain to people, hey, in these countries where they have socialist health care, it is rationed.
You do know that.
And the big companies that are in the private rationing control, they make even bigger profits.
And it's about eugenics and death panels.
They're like, shut up, you wild-eyed scumbags.
Well, here's the book written by Tom Jashal calling, you know, that if you're blind, get a cane.
Or if you've got a bad knee, get a cane.
I mean, they actually say that.
And this is all about getting new taxes and then the bankers steal it out the back door.
It's like no matter how much money you give the VA, it all gets stolen out the back door.
They don't give the Tribs good health care on average.
Worse in the world.
This is how it works.
And I just see these articles everywhere and now I can play the clip.
I probably played it 15 times.
You can just search.
Bill Gates says death panels are needed.
And he goes, he says, well, they aren't really death panels, but you don't give an old lady care.
You can hire 10 teachers.
And there's like all he's talking to a government group.
They're like, ah.
You know, it's triggering this predator function in the brain.
Hey, you kill old ladies, you get money!
Of course, these fools that are, you know, 40-something years old in the audience are like, yay!
You know, soon you'll be, you know, having your healthcare cut.
And so that's how they do it.
They get everything communalized, everything in a big pile, and then they steal the money out the back door, use the control for social engineering, and then tell the public, hey, If you live just like we say, do everything we tell you, and you're part of a quote in group, then you might get some health care, but the bureaucrats are going to decide.
And that's exactly where they want us, just like now with the debt limit.
They can openly hold everybody hostage and say go deeper into the bank's debt.
Or you won't get all these goodies.
And then the lion's share of the quote, debt that we've signed on to, over 90%, is not owed by the American people.
It's not defense, it's not social security, it's none of this.
Most of the tax money is siphoned off for interest on the creation of money.
Since 1913, almost 100 years ago, 98 years ago, since 1913, private banks took over the issuance of currency and credit.
And for a dollar to be created, a dollar of debt is created to them.
And that's why everything is about bankrupting us.
Everything is about getting us into debt.
Because we're going into debt to them over nothing.
But now they've created the derivatives.
Twelve years ago.
Over a thousand trillion worldwide.
They say the US owes 600 trillion, the Washington Post reports.
And why do we owe it?
Because the politicians said, too big to fail, and signed us on to it.
Saying the whole economy will be brought down, total tyranny, martial law, total collapse, blood in the streets, cats and dogs living together.
I'm talking about wrath of God type of stuff, to quote Ghostbusters.
That's what they said in Greece a few months ago.
That's what they said in Ireland a few months ago.
That's what they said in Iceland.
That's what they say here in the U.S.
three years ago.
And now they're right back to it, and the government gives in.
And see, the public right now with this whole debt limit thing and being taught about dollar devaluation and being threatened with total default and total collapse, the public's being set up now that, oh, it was our $14 trillion in debt that we actually, through welfare and through entitlements and defense, really do owe.
through treasury bills to people that have bought them.
It really is $14 trillion we owe.
And then you find out that the city of New York, Manhattan, years ago had over a trillion dollars in liquid slush funds in the comprehensive annual financial reports.
You find out that there are families, Russian media estimated the oligarchs, who turned out to be Rothschild fronts, that was even the Financial Times of London, control three hundred trillion dollars and that was a decade ago.
That was 2001, a decade ago.
The bankers have created 1.5 quadrillion.
They got everybody to tie their pension funds to it.
To tie your real investments to it.
And now they hold everybody hostage.
And they keep taking us deeper down this road.
Of, give us more power, give us more control, or you will be destroyed financially.
But you notice now that it's like a young woman and a guy in a parking lot puts a gun to her and he says, get in the car, I'm gonna kill you.
Well, honey, he's planning to take you to a shack where he's gonna slowly rape and torture you over a couple months and what psychopaths call using you up and feeding off the begging and the crying and the pleading.
That's like Beethoven to these people.
It's horrible to normal people.
It's beautiful to them.
It's the same thing for the bankers.
They're psychopaths.
They've interbred psychopathic traits with each other for thousands of years, and they call themselves another species.
The eugenicists call their literature, and they are.
They are psychologically and spiritually.
It's like the Morlocks and the Eloi.
H.G.
Wells admitted that was an analogy or a parable of life.
And you're blind to them, just like a woman, the guy puts a gun to her, and she gets in the car, and, you know, she would be better to scream and yell, and he might even pump a round into her, but generally they don't want to get caught, they'll let you go and run.
Or even worse, guy pulls up and yells at Volkswagen, it's Ben Bernanke, hey, get in with me, honey, I'm wearing a suit, these guys in suits are safe, you get in the car with them, and next day you're chained down, and he's biting chunks out of your back.
You see?
And so that's what they're saying.
They're saying, you know, get in the car.
Well, we're now in the car and they pulled a gun out and they're saying, now, now, now, listen, you're signed on to our derivatives or I'm going to shoot you.
Well, you better just knock the window out of the car.
You better try to jump out.
You better attack him.
You better grab the steering wheel.
You better run it off the road.
It doesn't mean that you're going to be able to even get out of this now, but at least you're going to run the car off the road and he's going to have to shoot you and you got a chance of getting away.
Or you can go to the shack.
And I know America, just like with Nazi Germany, and the Soviets, and the Chinese, and all of it, you want to go to the shack.
And you're not going to wake up till Ted Bundy, aka New World Order, has been raping you for about two weeks, and biting chunks out of you, and putting cigarettes out in your eyes.
Now, I know that's what you're really looking for, and I know you like government killing 200-plus mil last century, and so you've allowed it, because you won't admit these are psychopathic, hardcore criminals.
Okay?
Only a full awakening to the full nightmare gives us any chance of beating these people.
And that's why I don't mince words and I don't play games.
And that's why I don't even worry about my own life, my own name.
The studies are showing most of the women being born now have got dead eggs.
You think there's sterilization now?
Wait till about 10 years from now!
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This capitalism?
Or was Jefferson correct when stating a central bank issuing the public currency is a greater menace to the liberties of the people than a standing army?
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You see, it's a mathematical, societal, historical fact that if you allow corruption to grow and if you get rid of checks and balances in government, whether it's Rome, Germany or the United States today, "Uh, whether it's Rome, Germany or the United States today, "Uh, That you will be absolutely and totally and completely enslaved.
Because even if you have moderately corrupt people that get away with corruption, over time the more avarice-filled and cunning get into all of those positions.
And then you get a Mao, a Hitler, a Stalin, a Fidel Castro.
And we've seen Hugo Chavez transform completely into a lying dictator.
With staged elections and arrests and the shutdown of political speech.
And there's a flotilla of laws, I'll get to later in the broadcast, where just outside of law, they are shutting down free speech, total internet tracking.
I happen to have here, and to my knowledge, no gun dealer has put this out.
We actually have the ATF letter directly from a gun dealer known personally to yours truly, where they command them to surveil and report on their customers outside of law.
And this is basically indentured servitude.
It turns them into confidential informants.
And so you're ordered to be their informant, similar to some of the sections of the Patriot Act, where they order you to surveil people and then not tell anyone.
And then if you find out that the FBI has broken into your house without a warrant under sneak and peek provisions, then you can't tell anyone that they've broken in.
Well, that's basically what this is.
The ATF saying, you now work for us.
You're like a crack dealer we've busted.
And it's outside of law.
And if this is put up with, if people don't stand up against this, And I gotta tell you, you know, it even takes courage in this police state for the gun dealer to give this to me.
And it's a testament that these letters haven't come out to date.
And that tens of thousands of gun dealers have been sent these in the last few weeks, and that none of them have the courage to even leak it.
I mean, you need to see the gun dealers come out and say, this is illegal, together.
Or, next, they're going to be telling you to do even more, like they did in Phoenix and other areas, where the government comes in and says, You are going to ship guns to these people we tell you to and videotape the whole thing.
And the people are like, well, I don't want to do that.
And they said, you better do it.
And they did it.
So this is all part of like the mafia coming to your grocery store and saying, you're going to start paying me a cut.
And instead of beating the person's brains out with a baseball bat, There's not a lot of mafia in the South and Texas in places because in the past people would kill you.
In the North, folks put up with it as soon as immigrant populations came in from Eastern and Southern Europe who were accustomed to that and the predators would prey on people that had been taught how to bend over.
But here in Texas, you come into somebody's place, they don't care, they're just going to kill you.
I mean, in the old days, my grandpas were nothing special.
They weren't the toughest guys in the world.
Well, maybe they kind of were, but the point is, they were the types of people that just, if somebody did anything to them, they were very nice and friendly, you were going to get your head stomped in, and if you pulled a gun, they were going to kill you.
Now that's what old Texas was.
You see, now in America the mafia comes, the bombers of Oklahoma City.
And they tell people to do this, and everybody just grovels.
We need to legally do something about these criminals that have been caught shipping guns into Mexico to now blame the Second Amendment and execute this.
Now, I've got Ted Anderson here, and Dillingpole's coming up, and I have to get him on about 35 after, so I've got to cover this financial news with Ted at the end of this segment, the start of the next.
GDP at 1.3 growth, that's a complete joke with Cook numbers, but with inflation, I mean, that means we have a negative growth rate of about 8%.
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In fact, Barron's called his work a dire prophecy.
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Okay, we have gotten the secret because it's not been released and they're telling the gun dealers not to let the public know.
The ATF comes and says, hey, we don't have a law, but we're going to order you that you cannot...
Sell somebody more than two guns in a week, two or more guns, and then you have to call us like it's a crime so we can then go harass them at their homes.
And this has now begun.
I've talked to people, who of course are scared, who go buy two rifles because they're on sale at Academy, Walmart, local gun shop, whatever the case is, and the ATF and FBI come to your house.
You get the video and it's like a presentation that's entertaining At the same time, you understand the system by the time it's done, and you're going to be able to hand it off to your friends that they'll want to watch it too, just because it's that kind of entertainment.
And, you know, it's like that, I don't know, it's one of the best tools I've found to wake up people that I have out there.
And Ted, because of inflation, real inflation and commodities going up, thieves strip live copper wiring from 14 schools in town.
I see this every day.
Start of school, you're threatened.
Two men arrested for stealing guardrails from roadway.
Thieves ransacked DC Firehouse.
And meanwhile, the government's telling us inflation's not up, we're not in depression, and crime isn't up.
There's robberies happening at coffee shops I go to, restaurants.
I mean, here in Austin, there is crime exploding.
They're raising taxes, laying off cops.
The cops that are left are writing tickets for revenue generation.
This country is going to hell in a handbasket, and Obama's answer is...
Go deeper into debt with the bankers by signing on to their derivatives.
Now, we've got the deal where you get two silver dollars, the free book and free video and shipping.
That's an insane deal.
Folks should get the American Dream package, as it's called, because that's the name of the film.
But what are some of the gold and silver coins, and we're going to James Dillingpole, what are some of the other special radio listener specials that you're going to hold through Sunday night?
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Well, very popular is the American Eagle right now, currently at $1,744.
The bags of survival dimes, they're the old junk silver bags, they're currently right now at $3,083.
I would just call the British Sovereigns and the Franks are nice because they're small and they're, you know, it's more of a smaller piece of gold you can use to trade for groceries, this type of thing.
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The big one-ounce coins, I mean, right now they're at $1,700.
Alex, when we first started working on them, they were closer to $200.
You know, back then, it, you know, you could buy, it bought a lot less.
I can barely think right now after reading this ATF letter.
Where did my ATF letter go?
I mean, I just want to run out of here and go shoot a special video and write a news article about this because this is so incredible, but that's coming up.
We've also got Al Jorgensen, the founder and head of the mega successful rock band, techno, trance, whatever you want to call it, the granddaddies of so much of modern music that's so popular today, of ministry is going to be joining us for a full hour coming up.
We'll cover the waterfront with him.
But going to London Telegraph writer, Best-selling author, his new book's out, Watermelons, The Green Movement's True Colors.
I would call them banker melons, because they're communists that communize your wealth to give to the offshore banks, but it's always a Soros behind every great commie.
But Polar Beargate, and I've got a report here, there's three other big breaking things that show total fraud and lies.
I mean, basically they say Give all your money to Al Gore and kill yourself, and the Earth will be saved.
So Al Gore can have, you know, some more 20,000 square foot houses.
But this polar bear gate goes right to the White House, and I want to break it down.
I mean, you know, the hoax that polar bears can't swim, well now it's that they can't swim long distances.
This has all been exposed as a calculated fraud, and James Dillingpole joining us.
And even though in Arctic areas there are numbers of what doubled in the last 50 years and they're known as vicious 1,200 pound rats that are just running around everywhere.
You go on a cruise to Alaska, and I think the bald eagle's a neat bird, but they take you to the dump on tours where you watch them eating their favorite food, diapers, and they literally, you'll see 20 of them in a tree, 10 of them in that tree, eating all the fish.
It's just bald eagles.
I mean, growing up in Dallas, there's bald eagles all over the place.
I think you know and I know, Alex, that the environmental movement has a pretty good record of playing fast and loose with the facts on endangered species.
Well, they're also constantly being caught over and over again in the U.S.
dumping species that aren't endangered overall, but they say in an area are endangered, and they've been caught over and over again releasing animals and then finding them.
No, sir, we have a cave bug here, used to steal hundreds of thousands of acres from private citizens, and then the green fascist then turned around years after, once they got the land, and sold it and own it personally.
There's the snail darter, there's the California delta smelt, there was the spotted owl that stopped any deforestation happening on the Pacific coast.
You know, these animals are used by the environmental movement as a way of essentially Well, it's a war against anyone's private property that isn't theirs.
Well, I think what's interesting about this case is, number one, how is it that this guy is being prosecuted, or investigated at least, You know, this guy works for a federal agency under the Obama administration.
You would have thought that any guy working for a federal administration who comes up with a story showing that man is evil and we're endangering the environment, you would have thought he'd be given, at the very least, a Congressional Medal of Honor for his service to the cause of green lunacy.
Don't forget, the Obama administration is in it up to the hilt with eco-fascist values.
You know, you've got people like Lisa Jackson at the EPA, you've got Carol Browner, you've got the eugenicist John Holdren, you've got all these crazy eco-looters.
And he's used these three polar bears Uh, he's extrapolated from this that the polar bear is in grave danger.
And remember here, we've got this guy getting a budget of 50 million pounds, I'm sorry, dollars to play with.
Now, if you or I went and robbed a bank, robbed 50 million dollars from a bank, I think we know what would happen to us.
Yet, In the environmental movement, in the wonderful, wonderful boondoggles of federal funding, it's perfectly okay to use junk science in order to create a scare story, and to effectively steal from the taxpayer 50 million bucks to be wasted on further eco-research.
Well, I hope that this is a sign that, you know, we've seen the other evidence, the NASA report as well, I hope this is yet a further sign that the Green Ponzi scheme is finally Collapsing.
You know, if this guy is being investigated, then it suggests to me that people are starting to run scared.
Now, there's a bunch of other scandals going on right now.
NASA's come out with data showing that the Earth is off-gassing the heat, and that the models are frauds.
We already knew that.
They've been caught fixing the models and setting them up over and over again.
You've got the whole situation at the Hadron Collider, where it showed that basically the other studies, that it's the sun driving warming, and the different particles it's sending into the atmosphere, forming cloud nuclei.
That's come out.
There's one other scandal.
I mean, their entire thing is being routed, but they don't care.
They're all over the news holding up penguins and polar bears, saying they're all dying, and give your money to Al Gore and Lord Rothschild so they can have more jets and yachts, and more royal trains, or we're all dead.
Although, you know, Alex, I sometimes wonder whether, you know, every time we make a big deal about the new research showing that their, you know, their theory is bunk, I think in a way, we're playing their game.
Because they want to persuade us that this is an issue that can be resolved through science.
And actually, we know that this has nothing to do with science.
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Finishing your point, James, you're saying don't even debate this on science because they've been proven to be total fraudsters, their internal emails.
It's all, I mean, look.
No carbon taxes on China building three coal power plants a week, and then the U.S.
can't have three a year, and GE's moving everything to China.
I mean, this is Monopoly Man stuff.
I mean, they're just shutting us down because they've decided to move their operations to China.
I mean, it's just robber baron behavior.
And then Al Gore and all these other people are just disgusting scumbags.
The science is a complete red herring because the fact is that organisations like the IPCC have arranged it in such a way that real scientific debate isn't allowed to take place.
In fact, what they want now is to create a situation where there is no null hypothesis.
In other words, the burden of proof This is what Kevin Trenberth says, the burden of truth should now be on us evil climate change deniers to prove that dangerous man-made climate change is not happening.
Well, you can't prove a negative.
So even though every day Spectacular new evidence emerges that man-made global warming theory is just flawed and entirely untrustworthy.
No matter how new evidence comes through, you still Well, we have this great big machine, this political machine, this business machine of rent-seeking corporatists, the machine involving all these green NGOs like Greenpeace and the World Wildlife Fund.
You know, it's going to be very, very hard to derail this massive, massive gravy train which is rolling on and on.
Alright, we're scheduled to have Al Jorgensen, the founder of Ministry, super politically aware.
I don't know even what you call it.
I mean, the granddaddies have so much of the techno, trance, rock, music, and talk about the New World Order, 9-11, Inside Job, all of it.
He's coming up in the next segment.
Look, I don't have words to describe this.
When Bob Chapman's on, I'm going to get more into it, but I've got Paul Watson doing an article on this and Aaron Dykes, and I'm pretty distracted right now, I'm going to be honest with you, because this is such tyranny.
This is so hardcore.
The mind Manipulation that's been done even on gun owners and the Second Amendment self-defense lobby is incredible.
Okay?
A year ago, we found out that from Texas to California, they were quietly ordering by word of mouth, ATF coming into offices saying, if you sell two or more rifles Anything above a 22, what they call high power or semi-auto, deer rifles, anything.
And by the way, gun buyers, when you finally get into a gun shop, I tend to buy more than one.
In fact, that's why I don't get near gun shops.
But you buy a couple guns, you already go through the FBI instant check, they already know what's going on, how many guns, you're checked that you're not a felon, and you get the gun.
And that's out of control.
You know, they always expand the gun laws.
So A, they already are running the check.
So, why is the ATF doing this?
Well, this is the nature of tyranny.
If Obama can shut down power plants without congressional approval, he's a dictator.
If he can launch wars without congressional approval, he's a dictator.
If he can raise debt ceiling, which he's talking about doing, he's a dictator.
And it's not that he's even a dictator, it's the system wants All the power is centered in one place.
These points, A through Z, aren't even the most important in order.
They're doing this where they're basically turning you into a confidential informant.
This is what the ATF did in Arizona and other states.
They would come in and they would say, you're going to shell guns at these guys that are coming in.
They're going to take them to Mexico.
They're like, I don't want to do that.
And I said, we're the ATF, do what you're told.
So they can ship the guns into Mexico and now come out with this program to harass people that are buying guns, to go after people that are going, you know, to get guns.
So, so, so let me just calmly go through the points here right now.
Okay.
A, there isn't a law and the government's doing this outside of law.
Okay, and did it by word of mouth.
Now we've got the letter they issued July 12th to gun shops from Texas to California.
Okay, the entire Southwest.
Okay, so there's that issue.
That this was all done outside of law and that if they can set the precedent to come in and order you to do things and command you in the letter with no law, the sky's the limit.
They've set the precedent that they're dictatorial.
It's called authoritarian, dictatorial, that's what dictatorship is.
Secondarily, as I said, they already know that you don't have a criminal background and that you bought these guns.
That's the FBI instant check.
It's self-unconstitutional, but see, it's always more, more, more.
So they know that.
And there's also the fact that they're telling people by word of mouth, don't talk about this.
So it's this behind the scenes, secret agent type deal.
And then here's the biggest one.
Then they want to chill the Second Amendment.
They then send ATF and FBI or both, and I've confirmed this from gun dealers and people in my office, to your house when you've bought two rifles and imply that you're a terrorist and evil and put you on a list as part of intimidation.
And then, of course, the biggest issue.
Remember, it's the government that shipped the guns into Mexico to track them back here to then do this program outside of law.
And remember, Obama said earlier in the year he's going to do gun control, quote, by stealth, victim disarmament by stealth, and that they were going to use regulations outside of law.
Use EPA regulations to shut down power plants.
Same thing.
And so this is a total, dictatorial, criminal power grab, intimidating people that are buying guns, intimidating the gun shops, outside of law, when it's the government that criminally shipped the guns into Mexico to then cause a crisis and blame the Second Amendment inside the United States.
Remember, Mexico has a total gun ban, and they've got one of the highest crime rates in the world.
So, this has all been calculated very, very carefully.
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talking about right and wrong, you know, good and evil, new world order.
And Al Jorgensen, the founder of Ministry, is our guest and influenced You know, so much, so much of the modern music that's out there, I think, also appreciate their album they put out a few years ago, dealing with 9-11 being an inside job, and we'll play some of that music coming up today.
Al Jorgensen from his compound in El Paso, Texas.
He is the founder and frontman of the Grammy-nominated industrial metal band Ministry.
He's also known as Al Jorgensen, Hypo Lux, Dog Alien Dog Star, and Buck Satan.
In Al's 30-plus music career, he has created such bands as, and it just goes on through him, and he joins us, and one of the last albums he put out was a Rio Grande Blood, I thought was a Excellent, and we'll talk more about that with him here on the broadcast today.
They're on Facebook at facebook.com ministry and 13 PlanetRecords.com, and a lot more.
And I wanted to get him on because, obviously, I saw that album dealing with 9-11 Truth.
There's so much to talk about, but you said out of the gates that you have a bone to pick with me, so let's just get it out here on the table right now, because you're rock and roll, man!
Well, I'm sure you will, but I've been listening all morning, and I've been listening to this gold chilling, which is very Glenn Beck-ish, I think, because, because, okay, What is a 2012 apocalypse?
Whether it's the magnetic shift or the solar flare or an asteroid that the government isn't telling us that's coming because they don't want chaos.
Do you really think gold is going to get you through those days?
Okay, so obviously the banking system is done, okay, after an apocalyptic, you know, hell.
Do you think that by buying supplies and gold that you're not going to be targeted for having gold and having rampaging marauders ransacking your house, which is what's going to, it's going to fall into anarchy, is going to keep you safe?
Really?
I think this is just another scam.
of just like making money for certain people, a certain few, the gold traders, on like, oh, yeah, that is a safety net.
What's the safety net after a post-apocalyptic future?
What is the safety net?
I would say by batteries, water, and bread, and maybe a few guns, okay?
Yeah, like a few hundred guns, which you've been dealing on this morning with the new ATF rule, which, okay, so just go extra times and buy 400 rounds and two guns twice a week.
You know, I mean, really, uh, you know, if you want to be prepared for that, gold and silver is not the answer.
Who's going to take gold on precious resources when resources are so scarce?
And there is no banking system.
Gold and silver are a farce.
This is another conspiracy to get people to spend money to make a select few a lot of money.
All I know is, I was a silver and gold purchaser before I ever had sponsors, and I have a sponsor who I know has really great deals, and that's where I buy my gold and silver.
I bought silver, and a lot of what I bought was at $5, $6 an ounce.
Now it's about $40.
I bought gold.
A lot of what I have at $300, $400, $500, it's at $1,600.
They're killing the dollar.
And, hold on, hold on.
Let me just counter you.
That's like saying I shouldn't have kids.
Because somebody might hurt them or they might die in a car wreck.
You know, to say that marauders might come take my guns.
Listen, I'm not turning my gold into the government.
Listen, gold's going to be worthless and dollars are going to be worthless.
What's going to be worthwhile is survival techniques if you want to live in that world.
Me, I got my Glock 9.
So you really think it's the end of the world?
runs out after 2012, and then I'm going to put a glass on or a beretta to the roof of my mouth and have a big party and go out in a peaceful way, all right?
Well, I really do, and I'm not one of these, like, you know, it's really funny.
I have a 2012 tattoo and I got it like three days before this initial crisis of some sect thing, like the world was going to end, you know, a few months ago.
And uh, I'm going, if the earth starts rumbling, I'm going to go, the first thing I'm doing is I'm going to the tattoo shop and getting a rebate on my 2012 tattoos.
When the Spanish conquistadors came here, and I mean, we have like We have churches here from like 1590 and things like this of people passing through to California.
That's why they call it El Paso.
It's the pass between the mountains before you go west.
And it's always been an outlaw town.
It's got the world's largest Harley distributorship here.
So it's pretty much bikers and outlaws.
And I seem to fit in here for whatever reason.
And I like it here.
I've been here nine years.
I've got it tattooed on my neck, the name of the city, and I plan on staying.
Now it does look like something out of Road Warrior in El Paso when you drive in and all those ancient looking hills and all the radio towers and like wreckage and junk all over the sides of the road and then the city and the people.
It is beautiful in an ugly way.
El Paso is a very interesting town.
Now I want to get away from this in a moment, but I want to go back to something, Al.
I know we're going to be here after 2012.
We're going to defeat the New World Order.
We're going to defeat their designed implosion of the world economy.
You know, the only way we're going to defeat the New World Order is for the people to finally get so fed up by the Republicans destroying the middle class to where people have no money.
Here's what cracks me up about the Republicans.
It's that short-term sightedness.
Okay, let's put the piggyback on to, like, the middle class.
So the middle class has nothing, and the CEOs make everything, okay?
Although, in a few years, who's gonna buy their product while they're making record profit bonuses every year?
Okay?
And at the end of that, who's gonna buy their product if no one has money?
So therefore, they're thinking short-term cash-grab game, and they're not thinking long-term of how to sustain an economy.
They're thinking short-term cash-grab, which is what's happening- It's cannibalistic!
These freshmen in the Republican Congress have been reading way too much Ayn Rand, alright?
It's like, if I don't get my way, I'm gonna blow up the building.
And that's what they're doing, okay?
That's what they're doing.
You may hate Obama, you may think he's a scumbag and all that, you know what?
He's dealing with the realities of Washington.
And it's not easy for anybody.
It was easy for W because of his bloodline and this and that, and people like fell in the line, just like in Augusta.
But with Obama, a black president, oh my God, no, we can't have this.
So, you know, we'd rather blow up the building, as Ayn Rand said.
Then pursue with policies that might actually do good.
I mean, I'm thinking, if we had a Democratic Congress and a Democratic President, and I mean Congress and Senate, we would have infrastructure right now.
We would have the things that would make this country grow and lead things for our future.
As of right now, the short-sighted terms of the CEOs, which is the Republican overboard, just want immediate cash, and they'll build their bunkers.
Here's a different point.
Okay, Bush is so cozy.
Bush was so cozy with the Saudis and all this stuff.
Yet him and the CIA director, Woolsey, under the Clinton administration, both have solar-powered houses.
Now, why is it good enough for them but not good enough for us?
And even the overlords don't see that if you destroy the middle class, there is no consumption.
And if people don't consume the Overlord, sure they have CEO record bonuses, but that's not only gonna last for a couple years because there's nobody there to buy anything!
I can give you the handbooks, the white papers, where this has been planned for at least 50 years, what we're entering.
It's called a post-industrial world.
They hate the middle class.
The ultra-rich have always sought to destroy it, so there's a giant underclass and a tiny group on top, and all I'm saying is, Versus the rhetoric and reality, Obama has continued all of the Bush policies.
So, from community organizer to trying to do what's right versus these satanic people, it's a pretty difficult task.
I'm gonna cut him some slack, for right now, okay?
Like, I just hope they don't inject the alien bloodline DNA into him as well, so he acts in accordance with his overlord.
But, uh, he's putting up as much of a fight as he can.
And, uh, you know, I'll leave it at that.
I mean, really, what we're dealing with is not government at all, but, like, really short-sighted... Look, this is what makes me think that 2012 is an actual reality.
It's not the Mayans and some, like, crazy paintings of a guy in a spaceship on a tomb or anything.
It's the fact that... Okay, here we go.
Here's a guy that, um, has a website named Darren McClung.
And it's called 2012 Supplies, okay?
And this guy is selling things, survival kits, for the masses.
Yet, he has a really hard time getting these supplies because the government keeps buying it off all each month, okay?
So, what does that tell you?
I mean, you've seen the movies, like anything from Contact, Armageddon, you know, 2012, whatever.
They've been building a giant COG system for 60 years, underground bases.
NORAD, Cheyenne Mountain, Mount Weather, all of it, Cite.R, they have been training the military for 2012 for at least 15 years for mass gun confiscations, riots, total shutdown, because they have planned the implosion of the global economy to build the global government on top of it that we will pay our carbon taxes to.
They are destroying the planet through economic Warfare!
Fossil fuel is just a completely irrelevant thing right now.
Like I said, Bush and Woolsey have their solar panel houses and generators waiting for the apocalypse because the 1% will survive and then we'll have a new No.
society after six to seven billion people die in the next apocalypse.
And they'll have their cushy home.
And then they'll start another system the same as the one that we have.
I know you've done some studying and talking about the New World Order before I was.
So I understand you've got some deep geopolitical ideas here.
But they have implanted through the fake Christian groups that it's the end of the world.
Jesus is coming back, so stand down to corruption.
They've used the 2012 stuff for 30 years, implanted as a self-fulfilling prophecy to expect total collapse and devastation because they are launching their operation to depopulate I agree.
They're so callous to the whole notion of six, seven billion people dying, as long as they make their money and they have their kush bunkers, okay, with survival kits, that they don't care.
Yeah, they've been planning for the economic collapse for 30 years, but they haven't been planning and nor do they care about the populace, okay?
So, you know, I mean, call me left-wing on that one, I'm right-wing on other things.
I've confirmed with top construction companies that are listeners, some of which have been guests here, that every CIA high-level person, every person that's worth hundreds of millions or billions and in the upper echelon within the last five years have built bunkers everywhere and have bunkers underneath their houses and are totally freaked out.
I believe from things that they've said and done, they're looking at releasing airborne Ebola that's weaponized, it'll kill 99% of people.
Well, I mean, that's like saying, tell me the sky isn't blue.
But Al, that's not even what I'm saying here.
The Republicans, the people holding it up, are the Tea Party, who aren't fully informed, but they see us being completely bankrupted if we don't cut spending.
Then they have all the billionaires out like Warren Buffett and Bill Gates saying, I don't pay hardly any taxes.
Raise my taxes, but you get the tax plan, they're exempt offshore, and they're going after folks making $125,000 individually, quarter mill, Listen, man.
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All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are back live out of the show.
Al Jorgensen, of course, the founder of Ministry, is our guest for the rest of the hour.
Then Bob Chapman coming up on the economy.
Look, we're having discussions during the breaks, and I kind of want to repeat that now here on air, and I'm like, Al, I understand the ultra-rich are avoiding almost all taxes, but it's the ultra-rich that are promoting, let's get the rich on all these TV shows, they're promoting this idea, then they're going to bait and switch it in the tax plans they put out, and literally gang rape people making Quarter million, half million, a million dollars a year that actually is funding the economy.
You got the head of his economic council, the head of GE, moving their x-ray factories to China.
You've got General Motors using billions to move its plants in the bailout to China and Brazil.
This is globalism!
And so all I'm saying is, I understand, hey, the rich are basically exempt from taxes.
All I'm saying is they're baiting and switching it And if you look at the actual plans, not the rhetoric, it goes after the middle class.
And so as Ron Paul has said, the Republican plan will bankrupt us down the road, and the Obama plan will, because none of them are talking about the $1,500 trillion the bankers created in fake derivatives that they got both parties, and the same thing in Greece and everywhere else, to sign on to.
But, the problem is, is the Rambo plan, the Libertarian plan, so like, Democrats and Republicans are both screwed, also doesn't take into effect.
Okay, I know you just had a segment on polar bears swimming across whatever, and then who cares, and this and that.
But, I care, in the sense that the entire eastern seaboard will be under 6 feet of water, and there'll be trillions of dollars lost in that, when Greenland melts.
Okay, so, forget the polar bear.
Let's just talk about Patsy.
Okay?
So, I do agree, I'm basically a libertarian.
But, The point is, is that the first person like Rick Perry, Governor of Texas, okay?
Mr. Secessionist, Mr. like, uh, you know, guns in every bar and, uh, you know, concealed weapons permits across the state.
I have weapons!
But I don't take them across state, and I don't bring them to bars for God's sake.
But, you know, illegal immigration, another big thing.
Oh, we gotta stop that!
Yet, if we do that, then it doesn't drive the wage down of the middle class, and we don't have workers willing to do that.
So, the Republican Party is full of hypocrisy, okay?
So Rick Perry, anti-immigration, anti-this, anti-that, and all those things like this affect boards, which make money, the one percenters, all right?
They make money off it.
So I'm sure there's a lot of pressure back and forth in the Republican Party, which is why they can't even pass the Baylor bill right now.
Well, it's very similar to David Icke, where he was a soccer star.
And all I wanted to do was I wanted to ride rodeo.
I was a bull rider.
And, uh, I wanted to be a baseball player, but I tore out my knees, so then I went to bull riding.
But something was nagging at me that something is not right here.
Okay, something is not right, and it's not what CNN tells you.
Which is another point I have to make, which is so funny, that the Pentagon finally repeals Don't Ask, Don't Tell, and yet our media centers, whether it's Fox, CNN, or even MSNBC, is basically Don't Ask, Don't Tell.
They don't ask the hard questions, and they don't tell you the hard answers.
So I started digging into it, and started realizing bloodlines and things like that, which I know, okay, holy grail, this and that, blah blah blah, and this is all a bunch of bullcrap.
They're not happy about it, but he's allowed to rule.
Allowed.
And that's a big word.
Allowed.
Because what does that mean?
That means that somebody else is calling the shots and they're allowing somebody to be president.
The supposed most You know, important person in the world.
So, you know, I mean, what we have here is, uh, I mean, I go back to, like, Zachariah Fitchin and Graham Hancock, and I go back to, uh, you know, even, even Von Donegan, okay?
You notice now they're having to admit, oh, there's these Neanderthal, and we've done the DNA, and it turns out, Northern Europeans are the highest concentration of Neanderthal, and, oh, the genetic DNA is different, and then now you find out, for 20 years, or longer, they've made thousands and thousands of cross-human animal clones, but, Keep the details secret.
I mean, we're not in Kansas anymore, and what you're saying, Al, to put words in your mouth, correct me if I'm wrong, we've never been in Kansas.
No, we've never been in Kansas, and we've never been a human race.
We're a human race only through DNA altering by species different than us.
And the species that are different than us were the Anunnaki.
I'm a big 12-planet theory, which is why my label is called 13-planet, which is like, well, if that's 12-planet, I've even got weirder ideas, so I'm 13-planet.
And the reason it's called 12-planet is they saw the eight visible planets.
They didn't see Pluto, but they saw the moons of our moon and then three gas giant moons, which made it 12 planets, through the first telescope.
We got a call from Stanley Kubrick at my house, and he's like, he really wants us to be the band in the flesh fair, and he really wants us to write the music for the film.
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And I hung up.
I thought it was a prank call.
And they called back and they're like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And here's Mr. Kubrick.
And I talked to Stanley Kubrick before he died.
And he was like, no, you're the perfect embodiment of the film that I want to make.
And then he died and Spielberg took it over and put that damn teddy bear in.
Uh, you know, with the kid, you know, because he liked that E.T.
and the children saving the day thing, and, uh, and the teddy bear, and that teddy bear was a mess, man.
That thing would, like, go down, like, every ten minutes.
It'd be like, the bear's down!
Everyone keeps saying, the bear's down!
And so we'd be, like, back there, you know, sloughing beers, you know, like, uh, waiting for the bear to come back up.
Like, you know, I know Stan Winston just died, rest in peace, but, uh, you know, the, the, uh, The creator of the teddy bear and many other special effects icons that we have in our lexicon.
I was really pissed.
I didn't get along with Stan Winston because of that bear.
And this treatment that I got, I still have, the treatment of the original, was much more about the intricacies of Jude Law in the new city being a male prostitute.
And that was half the movie, and Spielberg took it and made it like half teddy bear, and this Donny Osmond, Joel Haley something or whatever kid, which is a good kid by the way, he's a big Ministry fan.
At any rate, he made it all about teddy bears and kids when Kubrick's message was really profound.
And I went like, Steven, baby, Spam's going to walk today.
We're not doing this because we were told by Cooper that AI was called Anal Intruder.
And it was a porn film.
And we just can't do this film.
And his handler that was sitting next to him taking notes as he's going through shaking hands, Uh, Spielberg goes walking off and his handler goes running, going, wait, wait, there's a mistake, Mr. Spielberg!
Oh my God!
Oh my God!
And then I had a run with him in this 50 pounds of, like, makeup and, like, gear that they had me wearing, and just go, wait, I was just kidding!
I was just kidding!
You know?
And, he finally came back, and then me and him got to be friends.
So, I'm, I'm, uh, never just a word about Steven Spielberg.
Except for the fact that I know what the original treatment was for that movie, and uh... Yes.
And wow, that movie would have been a statement, and the rest of it was like a really bad E.T.
And I told Spielberg that to his face, so it's not like, you know, I'm like, oh my god, spilling the beans.
What do you think of films like Eyes Wide Shut and the fact that at Skull and Bones, Bohemian Grove, the people that are claiming they're big Christian conservatives, speaking of gay sex, are engaged in that and all sorts of Satanism?
Because, listen, 99% of all our own either corporate or the lord all right i'll stay there al jorgensen we got to go to break he's gonna do two more segments with us we got bob chapman coming up and hopefully we can have him back up again sometime to take your calls but or maybe we'll take a few right now 800-259-9231 we'll be right back stay with us we'll be back on the other side if you drive for a living you don't get paid to stop or wait in line
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Al, we were talking during the break and you heard me tell the guys to come in with the song from one of your last albums, Rio Grand Blood, and you said, boy, 9-11 really gets me.
I mean, isn't 9-11 more than just Pearl Harbor where they knew it was going to happen and had broken the codes?
Let it happen.
I mean, 9-11, when you really look at it, hijackers trained at U.S.
bases, NORAD stand-down, passports that magically survive.
Well, I remember I was living in Austin at the time, and I remember waking up to some disturbing news, and I watched the visual, and I thought, did I change the channel while I was asleep?
And then I started digging into that and realizing that it's the same overlords that I've been talking about with our mouthpiece president that resurrected something to, what you said, a 30-year plan to destroy the markets and then resurrect them or whatever.
But, if we had a Democratic Congress and Democratic Senate, okay?
Do you really think we're just going to spend money like drunken sailors and run this country into the ground and just have our great-great-great grandchildren in debt and default and all that?
No.
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Well, Al Jorgensen, the founder and head of ministry, next time he comes to Austin, he says he's going to come in studio with us, so that's going to be exciting.
You know what adds a lot of credibility to him thinking something really bad is coming?
I hope it's not the case is that I've been out in Wimberley and places and there's all these scientists and former government people, even who are young, who've been out there 10, 15, 20 years saying, this is, these are our doomsteads.
It's all going to implode.
And then I run into microbiologists and they say, well, you're right about everything, Alex.
But, you know, I mean, the point is they are setting up for something big.
And I believe that, that they're instituting it, but who knows what they really know?
Five of the six reactors at Fukushima blew up within a week.
They knew it had happened, worse than Chernobyl, and they lied and told us everything was fine.
Well, I do think something's coming, if anything for the fact that, like I said, Dennis McClung, 2012supplies.com.
Uh, playing on the survivalist, uh, you know, instinct of selling everything from gas masks to, like, you know, uh, homegrown garden kits, hydroponics, all this shit.
Uh, sorry, I said shit.
Anyways, I'm, I'm, I'm trying.
But, um, the government has bought most of the stuff.
He's having a hard time finding supplies.
Why is the government buying all the supply... supplies?
Okay.
And not letting free enterprise.
This isn't just Obama.
Oh, Obama's going to ruin us all.
This is like, the government has been planning this for a long time.
Now, like I said, how it comes by, I don't know.
And what a magnetic ship does, I don't know.
It depends on if it's a continental plate ship.
Uh, you know, what a solar flare does?
Well, obviously that screws up our electronics.
Uh, what an asteroid does, they're not telling us about.
I mean, we're supposed to have a close one in 2029, within a hundred thousand miles, and blah, blah, blah, and this and that, and it might, it might not, but, you know, but I, I just find it amusing that the government is buying up all the survival supply.
Because, like I said, I'm not spending my life in some road warrior world where I've got to defend my food supplies with AR-15s, M-16s, Kalashnikovs, Glocks, gas masks, grenades.
Is that a way to live?
I'd rather throw a party and put a burrata through my roof of my mouth and just call it a day.
Yeah, when the dollar goes belly up, that, in every case in history, gold and silver and copper and guns and food and whiskey and cigarettes and nylon stockings and makeup, I mean, stuff like that, And guts, and like you said, friends, let me tell you something.
They're going to go pick off people on the road if this actually happens.
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Hi, Alex.
Hey, thanks a lot for having me.
Yeah, Al, you had mentioned, you know, what a forest gold and silver is.
I guess I can see that, you know, in a totally wiped out, you know, post-apocalyptic world, you know, where nothing is left.
There's no economic system to speak of.
But I'm a disabled veteran, and when I got hip to this through Alex's show about a year and a half ago, the real state of the economy, what's really going on, who the money masters are.
I started buying gold and silver.
Actually, it's silver.
Because if they decide to just wave their magic wand on August 2nd or something and make all the disabled vets and whoever the hell else is dependent on them, if they decide to wave their magic wand and make us all homeless and hungry, I've got a three month supply of food and I've got several thousand dollars worth of silver that I would Well let me ask you, if you bought silver a year and a half ago, that was at about $25 or $20.
But my whole deal is, my whole deal is, I mean look I understand if it is going to be total Armageddon gold and silver aren't going to matter and the Bible says they'll throw their you know jewels out in the street and beat themselves on the head and try to hide under My whole issue is, I've got faith, I don't think that's the case.
Gold and silver aren't perfect, but compared to fiat currencies run by the criminal bankers, it's as good as gold, and it's been great advice, and I stand by it.
Now, as for going after Glenn Beck, I actually looked at that with Congressman Wiener.
I mean, this is the guy that basically exaggerated and made stuff up about Beck.
Some of the deals I said...
Okay, well, I mean, listen, the issue here is, I looked at those Gold Line deals, and yeah, Midas is a lot better than the sponsor I've got, but a lot of what Wiener said it turned out wasn't true, and so I just think this demonization of gold is because they want to keep you in paper, and all I'm saying is you ought to rethink that, because look, when I started plugging gold it was $300, now it's $1,620-something.
I don't think it's going to the total apocalypse situation, but yes, in a depression, just like my grandfather's, you know, here in Texas, their dads, well it was actually my grandmother's dad, and then on the other side, well the point is, they didn't turn their gold in when Roosevelt said turn it in for paper.
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And we've got Bob Chapman waiting, and I apologize to Bob.
He just always comes on when we've got breaking news.
Al is our guest, of course, the founder of Ministry, facebook.com forward slash Ministry, Al Jorgensen.
And he's been talking to his wife during the break, and it's just really interesting talking to him.
He just sprung on me, but he didn't want to plug it on air for some reason.
They were inviting me down to their compound for fried chicken down in El Paso, and they were also telling me he's got a country album coming out soon, and he said he's going to send us a copy, so we'll definitely have him on for that.
But you said you'd want to come back soon.
You didn't even get into the Bushes and their bloodline.
So Al, give us one minute on that, and then we'll let you go because you're busy.
is not the start of, like, the CIA, as we speak, and, uh...
Funny how when he was Vice President, Reagan tried to get assassinated.
And it's funny how when Reagan said, there's no way George Bush will be my Vice President candidate, he met with the Trilateral Commission and the next day George Bush was his Vice President candidate.
And then he tried to get assassinated a year later because they just wanted to put George in line.
His father was Prescott Bush, Senator of Maine and the head of UPS Bank.
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Well, not entirely, because Porsche and Volkswagen and Krups and a lot of other German companies certainly threw in their share.
I tell you, I remember being a teenager in college listening to ministry, and I still listen to it.
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And just amazing having him on.
I apologize to Bob Chapman, the gracious expert, financial expert we have on every Friday.
And of course, Bob has TheInternationalForecaster.com, the preeminent Thick, twice-a-week newsletter, 40-something pages usually, total boil-down of what really is important in the news.
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A lot of it's also some of our news articles and research.
Bob, listening to Al from ministry, he thinks there's going to be a total collapse, so why would you want gold and silver?
I don't believe there's going to be a total collapse.
We are going to be in a long-term, globalist, post-industrial depression that will never end as they make us wards of the state unless we beat them.
But I know we're going to beat them, and they have psychically wounded the world with the fake Christian end-of-the-world stuff that's government-financed, Rockefeller-financed on record, World Council of Churches.
And that's all correct.
And we're in the middle of it right now.
theist, agnostics, and new agers.
And of course things are imploding on 2012.
They've always planned to do it that way.
I don't think it's an asteroid.
This is their move to implode the global economy.
And the Rand Corporation said 12 years ago, get rid of posse commentatus.
We're going to need it through the economic implosion that they designed.
You could be right, it could last for years and years.
But I do know that they're facing some very difficult problems.
And if they can't overcome them, and they continue to get exposed as to what they're up to and what their end game is, then by the time they get there, the people aren't going to buy it.
You know, the issue is, I am going to continue... The globalists, we have unlimited resources.
Humanity has developed so many technologies that they've shelved, and they admit in their own documents they are purposefully cutting off the resources to the globe.
They are purposefully blocking people getting solar power at their homes.
They are purposefully getting us in a dependent position.
Bob, I want to get into all the debt ceiling, the latest huge developments, and a lot more on the other side with Bob Chapman.
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Well, we had Al Jorgensen on for an hour and a half.
Ended up getting in contact with him through a little bird here in Austin, and that was a fun interview.
That guy has seen a lot of things.
We didn't even get into one-tenth of his exploits.
But, you know, it's important to have guests on like that from time to time because it then also reaches out to an even wider audience.
And, of course, that's why he came on this broadcast as well.
Now, Bob Chapman was formerly in military intelligence, of course, fighting the Russians.
Then, over the years, he became the biggest private silver and gold broker.
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Then, of course, he had the largest, most successful newsletter.
A lot of folks claim that, but you can go back to the history he did.
He helped publish, of course, the seminal book that, I don't know, I think it was like six, seven million copies out there, None Dare Call a Conspiracy with Gary Allen.
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I just want you to know the great work of Bob Chapman, and he's been forced, of course, due to harassment and things, to take himself out of the United States to live to fight another day, and he joins us now.
Bob, I want to get into the economy, but Paul Watson's listening right now because he's going to do an article, so is Aaron, and they want me to decipher this.
This happens a lot.
You know, the guys bring me research, but then when I research something, I kind of call them or write out notes and they do the research to confirm everything I've said into an article.
But I've got some big breaking news here.
Um, that, quite frankly, I couldn't even really think during the last few interviews with Dillingpole and Jorgensen because I was so upset by this, what I've learned, what the ATF is doing.
I mean, this is such hardcore tyranny.
And so in about five minutes, I'm going to get into this report, Bob, and then get your take on it.
But we're multitasking here on air because Watson's waiting right now.
So is Aaron for this breakdown.
And then I want you to add to it.
Of course, you will see just as much as I see her even more.
And we'll glean the key to it that's hidden in plain view that no one in the mainstream media is putting out via deception.
But the ATF is we knew about this quietly going on a year ago by word of mouth.
They were just ordering it.
Then it came out July 11th.
They were doing it in the Associated Press.
And then now we've got the letters that went out after the AP article on July 12th, July 11th when they first put it out.
And we have the aftermath.
When you buy guns now, the ATF is visiting your house as a form of intimidation against lawful behavior.
But that's not even the issue.
I mean, it's big, but it pales next to them doing this outside of law.
They're just doing it, and it's called authoritarianism, dictatorial tyranny.
But Bob, I'm going to try to just shut up for five minutes, break down the debt ceiling, the economy, what's really going on.
Ron Paul says the Republican plan will destroy us, the Obama plan will destroy us.
They create this false debate where people pick a side when they're bought and paid for by the same people.
And I want to impress upon the people that the people who today are 55 or older, they're going to get rid of you as quickly as possible to save money,
And then during the interim, when they're cutting all this money out, a good part of it will go to the military-industrial complex so that we can have more wars, which will get people's minds thinking in a different direction, as well as great profits for these companies.
And also, they will Uh, continue to cut back in the availability of medicines.
I mean, we've seen a lot of reports just in the last few months where hospitals can't get this, that, and the other thing.
And sometimes it's because they don't have the money to pay for the things.
Uh, outside the country, Greece is a good example.
They own millions and they can't get any more drugs and things that they need to save people's lives.
And so, this is where they're headed.
They're gonna use the money someplace else They're going to cut back, and they're going to get rid of people.
And so this is what this is all about, and they want to make that part of the package.
And then the Republicans have a debate with Obama when there's not much real difference in the plan, so people think that's the only choices, instead of riding off the 1.5 quadrillion, getting back to Congress controlling the currency, slashing taxes across the board.
Absolutely, and you couldn't have put it any better.
And so, for those of you who didn't know, that's what they're up to.
And the debt extension is ex post facto.
Their problem is keeping economies slow, consolidating them.
They're waging war against the engine of wealth that is liberty.
And so for those of you who didn't know, that's what they're up to.
And the debt extension is ex post facto.
They're going to do that.
But when?
When they get what they want.
And they may not get what they want, because everybody in the beltway knows what they're up to.
And the fellows who are conservative to right-wing, you might call them Tea Party people, they're not going to put up with that.
And the leftists are going to say, hey, wait a minute.
You know, my constituency, three-quarters of the people are on Social Security and Medicare.
You've got to be kidding me.
I can't vote for that.
And so, they're at loggerheads here, and this is what's holding everything up, and they're not going to tell you about it, certainly not the media which they control.
And that's what the game is all about.
In fact, the interpretation of this is so widespread, in differences, it's surprising.
Right now, gold and silver are up, as a reflection of there's not going to be a deal.
And the gold and silver shares are down, because the traders think in the shares, that there is going to be a deal.
And it just shows you how confused these people are. - Bob, what does it signify that in the middle of the summer, you've been in this business 50 years, but in the middle of the summer, that's very rare to have gold and silver spiking.
I would guess, correct me if I'm wrong, it'll probably go up a little bit more and then go down a little, but then we're gonna see 2000.
I mean, a couple years ago, you said $2,000 gold is easy in the next two, three years.
People laughed at it.
Now it's happened.
You predicted with total precision three, four months ago, you said, you said, they're saying no QE3 baloney.
They're already doing it quietly with monetization.
And now he said, yes, we're going to probably do QE3.
I mean, you really are the most on target person that we interview.
If you look at the base that was formed in silver, silver being the leader of the pack right now, you will see it tested eight times the $32.50 to $36 level.
Now normally, and gold tested and held as well, now normally if a cat tests two or three times, it's terrific.
Four times?
Unusual.
Eight times?
Very seldom.
And if you look back in history about the formations of support, you will find that is usually followed by an increase of 100 to 150% in gold and silver.
So it's as simple as that.
percent in gold and silver so it's as simple as that so 16 16 to 3200 dollars an ounce and 35 and 35 or 70 and that's where they're going on the short term and that's why one of the reasons why we're having a spiking in gold and silver unusually unusual seasonally in the summer number two the other reasons are
Gold is real money and people have realized it and they are abandoning other currencies.
The only exception is Swiss franc.
They look at Europe, it's a dog's breakfast.
They look at the United States, it's a disaster.
Who would want to hold those currencies?
And the rest of the world just follows.
So you have gold replacing the dollar as the world reserve currency.
It's been going on for two and a half, three years.
Yeah, and earlier today they were saying 1.8, now the government's adjusted to 1.3.
And of course they claim unemployment's at 10% or lower when mainline outfits say 22, 23% California, 30.
Now listen, here's the deal.
Earlier, out of the gates, Al said, look, I'm a big fan, but I think the end of the world's basically coming, and this gold thing's dumb, and I think you ought to sell it.
And I said, OK, come on here and say that, because I know he's listening, too, and he's not a bad guy.
I want to explain this to people.
Look, we said buy gold when it was $300, and it's $1,600 and something.
We said buy silver when it was $5, it's $40 something.
Listen, it's a law of economics throughout 6,000 years of recorded history that when governments hyperinflate the currencies commodities explode namely gold and silver so again they can manipulate things down in short term they can always give gold or silver a haircut but it always races back up
I wish that I could say folks dump your gold and silver because they're bringing back good monetary policy because I'd rather have an economy and be in a good position We're saying gold and silver because we're in a desperate situation and because it's been engineered and it's not a panacea, but it's the best thing out there.
If your ship's going under and you've just got some broken planks to get on, that's what you've got.
It's not another ocean liner to jump on, but it's not perfect.
And yeah, The government could try to come take it.
It's like saying, don't have kids, the CPS might try to come take them.
Don't sail across on the Mayflower, your kids may die when they get to Plymouth Rock.
Well, yeah, half of them did die.
You know what?
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We've become blubber creatures because we've had it too easy.
This is part of the cycle!
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Now, I gotta get to this ATF thing.
We'll obviously go into overdrive, and Paul Watson's standing by, and so's Aaron, for me to give them the breakdown of this.
And again, they're as smart as I am, or smarter, but on this, they've asked me for a breakdown to the article, so I'll give you the breakdown of why this is so huge with the ATF, okay?
But I want to bring Ted Anderson up here.
If you believe in what we're doing, you should buy gold and silver from Midas Resources.
Plus, I know it's Ted's silver deal.
The brokers, who are great guys, all they're doing is taking calls for this deal, and Ted's actually losing money on it.
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That is losing money as a lost leader because Ted wants to get the word out.
I happen to know Ted behind the scenes is financing every type of libertarian organization, spending all his money literally obsessed with these issues.
We're true believers.
Now I wish you'd call up and buy the other gold and silver deals where Ted makes 3-4% because, hey, that's the thing.
Is that we are free market people.
And if you believe in what we're doing, buy my books, buy my videos, buy them all.
But I'll tell you, with these deals Ted's offering, there is no profit.
And quite frankly, the brokers are sick of taking half their phone calls for these deals where they can't actually try to make some money.
And it's ridiculous.
It's ridiculous.
It's ridiculous.
Ted buys gold and silver when they manipulate it down.
No one is going to race right back up.
He's busy now having to buy it out into the future six months because it's so hard to get.
And then he's competitive, now the fifth biggest gold and silver broker in the U.S.
from nowhere, you know, 30 years ago, because he's competitive and he sells it to you when it's high at the old low price.
That's how Ted makes his little profit.
You add his 2, 3, 4, 5% of profit on it, when the market's up, If he was buying it now, he'd be losing money.
This is a tiny margin business, and it finances Genesis.
It finances what we do.
And quite frankly, it doesn't finance much these days, because he didn't make him that much money.
Even though he's selling tens of millions of dollars of gold, he doesn't make a very big profit.
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Tell them I want the radio specials.
In fact, there's no point with Ted sitting there to even go to him now because I got to come back with the ATF News with Bob Chapman and this is the big one.
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They've done it over and over again in other countries.
I'm watching these criminals do this stuff, and it never ceases to amaze me that when you're right about stuff, that's when you're bad.
When you're wrong, that's when you're good.
But with Bob Chapman, the main radio show is going to end in five minutes, but we're going into PrisonPlanet.tv and internet stream overdrive into the next hour with Bob, if you can do it.
I haven't even asked him yet.
I got so upset by this ATF news that I got...
Before the show today, that I haven't even eaten today.
And I've been up since 6 a.m.
And I just got a splitting headache and realized, oh, I haven't eaten yet.
I mean, I cut myself shaving, folks, and I don't even cover it up when I go on TV.
I mean, the point is, is that I am beyond all this side garbage.
And the news I got is so lawless.
So evil.
Let me just ask Bob before I get to this news and get his take on it.
Let me just dig out this news item here, and I'm looking for my Associated Press article dealing with it.
ATF to require gun buyer information on border.
Oh, on the border, that sounds reasonable when you read the headline.
No.
This is from Texas all the way through to California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico.
No law.
They're just ordering gun shops, if someone buys two or more guns, to report on them.
Now, this was secretly going on a year ago, and we told people.
And then in July, Obama announced And these are the issues.
I'm looking for my notes that I wrote on this.
Here it is.
This is so big I can hardly talk.
And it just happens, and it's like it's no big deal for everybody.
Outside of law, They make a secret rule last year and start ordering people to call the ATF.
Folks, they're already doing an instant check.
They already know how many guns they're buying.
They already do a background check with the FBI when you're there.
They check your driver's license, everything.
It's already registration.
Why then do they do this?
Because it's about setting the precedent.
To be able to have the ATF set the precedent and Congress do nothing.
What did Obama say last year and this year?
He said, don't worry to his base.
I'm not going to do it through Congress.
I'm going to do it, quote, by stealth.
So watch and look that up.
Obama to go out for guns by stealth.
That's all over the news.
This is it.
Now he's talking about an executive order to put you on a no gun by list.
And he's going to do that in the next few weeks, reportedly.
Where they just signs an executive order that says what Rahm Emanuel called four years ago, that we're gonna put you on a no-gun-buy list if we feel like it.
No judge, no jury, no reason why you got on, can't find out why you got on.
So this is the start of this!
They're like, okay, we're gonna order gun dealers to do something that's pointless, except that it...
Make some basically informants, indentured servants, like they're a crack dealer and the cops say, we're not going to bust you Bill or John or whatever your name is, but you have to start informing on people.
So they're treating them like criminals.
In this secret police thing, it's a secret police where they show up.
And they tell them, you've got to start reporting on people.
Now, here's the big news!
I've confirmed for multiple gun dealers and people in this office that when you, it's happening to Austinites, that when you buy two rifles, which a lot of people do when you go to the gun shop, I've done it, I've bought three, four guns before.
I'm treated like a criminal now.
The ATF comes to your house and demands to be let in without a warrant and starts intimidating you and asking you if you're a terrorist.
And it looks like they're doing it to libertarians and conservatives.
It's not the illegal aliens, they ship the guns.
And that's the bigger issue.
They, the government, ship the guns to the illegals.
To then blame the Second Amendment.
We told you about this over a year ago, and now it's confirmed.
So they've got a lot of chutzpah.
Now, they're harassing gun owners and treating them like criminals.
They're operating outside of law.
This is gun control by stealth.
Outside the law.
We're going to come back and get Bob's take on this.
And I have the letter!
I have the letter!
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If you just joined us, I'm going to continue breaking this down.
But it's par for the course.
And what is the headline at the Drudge Report?
I have a secret plan on the debt ceiling.
Well, they've already told us.
It's 14th Amendment reconstruction powers, but not against the states.
It's presidential dictatorship of Ulysses S. Grant against the Congress, launching wars without Congress, carbon taxes without Congress, gun control without Congress, without law.
And then gun rights groups are like, well, yeah, the ATF says now we got to do this.
It's about training you to do what they say.
And I'm going to get, I'm going to read the letter that's never been seen.
It's going to be published at PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com from an Austin gun dealer.
And again, the bigger story here is not even that they're doing this outside law.
They're coming and harassing and treating like criminals, people that go through the instant check and go through the already unconstitutional garbage.
Bob, am I right to be completely freaked out by this?
And it's happening in many fields, as you pointed out.
It's the abrogation of the Constitution.
And I was watching Judge Napolitano the other day, and he said that the ability of the President to use executive order to extend the debt commitment of the government is totally unconstitutional.
And so we have one unconstitutional act after another.
And everybody in Congress just stands there and does nothing, with the exception of a handful of people.
And the reason why is they've all been paid off.
They've sold us out.
It's dreadful.
And it's going to continue.
You know, I can remember the first run-in I had with ATF.
And it wasn't with me.
What they were doing was going around and trying to find people who knew me So that they could threaten them to spy on me.
Now, we're talking 1960s, 1970s.
And they went so far, a friend of mine who is now deceased, who was a gun dealer, and a gunsmith, etc.
They went into the stury head in Glendale, California, two of them, from the ATF.
And told him he was to spy on me.
And he was older at that time and had that steel armor in his mind as well as his body.
And he said, uh, I'll tell you what, uh, this is the last guy in the world that you want to, that you want, that I would want to spy on.
And he's a friend of mine.
He said, if I were you guys, I would get out of here and go try to pursue something else.
Because there's nothing that he's doing that's wrong.
If you study criminal investigations and things, and how intelligence agencies operate, they are now, outside of law, with this government order from Obama without law, saying, we're going to start going and demanding that secret forms be filled out on all your customers.
And if they go along with this, it's going to be more and more.
This is how they operate.
And this is turning them all into confidential informants to act like gun purchases are illegal when they already know exactly what guns people are getting and how many.
Through the FBI NICS, it's about saying we do things outside Congress as Obama said, we're gonna get the guns by stealth.
And they're doing it, and they're testing, and they will.
They've announced they're going to announce an executive order And the gun grabbers have bragged it's going to be a no-gun-buy list, just like the no-fly list that the Chief of Staff, Emanuel, said they would do!
They're doing it!
And they're terrorists that ship the guns into Mexico that have killed three border patrol and five cops, at least, and countless citizens, to then blame it on the Second Amendment, and even when they get caught, they go ahead with it, Bob!
I want to get more into the economy, but finish up with this ATF on the other side.
The ATF, without a law, is going in and muscling and threatening gun dealers to do things they tell them.
And you got a mafia gun-grabbing creature, Obama, telling them to do it.
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It's normal when you've studied history, when the government is announcing, yeah, we're going to start censoring the internet anytime we want.
Yeah, we're going to make ISP store all the data on you and give it to us without warrants.
That's going to the House of Representatives.
Yeah.
We're going to go into more debt to foreign banks.
Yeah, we're going to steal the pension funds.
Yeah, we're going to raise the taxes and cut the services.
Yeah, we're going to have the ATF ship guns into Mexico, publicly blame the Second Amendment, and then have them, outside of law, make, under a federal order, order!
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They say, we are now ordering.
Now remember, they tried this last year without even having an order.
They just said, you will report to us, here's where you do it, when somebody buys two or more rifles.
Again, you're already having your background checked.
You're not a criminal.
They don't have any other law.
Even though Congress passed an unconstitutional law.
Again, let me have a close shot here.
Even though Congress passed an unconstitutional law, the point is, it's the law.
But they don't have a law on this front.
So, giving you a document cam shot of this article.
We can zoom in a little bit more, please.
U.S.
Department of Justice, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, Washington, D.C., ATF.gov, Dear Federal Firearms Licensee, A license is an authorization to do something that would be illegal.
This is a 68 gun control act.
To assist its efforts in investigating and combating the illegal movement of firearms along and across the southwest border, ATF is requesting licensed dealers and pawnbrokers in Arizona, California, New Mexico, and Texas to submit records, information concerning multiple sales of certain rifles.
Okay, let me read that again.
We're going to go to Bob.
To assist in its efforts investigating, investigate yourself.
You shipped them there.
Tens of thousands.
And combating the illegal movement of firearms across the southwest border, ATF is requiring, there's no law, they're just ordering you, licensed dealers and pawnbrokers in Arizona, California, New Mexico, and Texas.
And if this stands, if Congress doesn't stop these criminals, who should all be in jail right now for doing this, and perjuring themselves and being caught, then the sky's the limit!
That's what this is!
They already know the guns!
They already know who got what!
They just aren't seeing, hey, we're in outside law, I'll tell you to do something.
That's how tyrants test you.
Is requiring licensed dealers and pawnbrokers in Arizona, California, New Mexico, and Texas to submit records information concerning multiple sales of certain rifles.
And see, they need that call to open the investigation to use that as the probable reason to come harass you at your house or business.
They're doing it if you buy ammo now.
ATF has the authority to issue the letter to collect such record information from Federal Firearms Licensees, FFLs.
Now listen, ATF has the authority to issue the letter.
To collect the record information from Federal Firearms Licensees under 18 U.S.C.
9-3-G-5, and the authority has been delegated by the ATF Acting Director of the Chief of National Tracing Center.
And it turns out that does not give them the authority to order someone as an indentured servant.
The law says an instant check.
The Supreme Court ruled on that in Mack vs. U.S.
You must submit to... This is just a total lie, a total fraud!
You must submit to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and Explosives reports of multiple sales or other dispositions.
That means whatever they come and tell you.
Anything they tell you, see?
It has a little caveat.
Report anything we say, you work for us now.
Or other dispositions, whenever, at one time or during any five consecutive business days, you sell or otherwise dispose of two or more semi-automatic rifles capable of accepting a detachable magazine and with a caliber greater than 22, including .223, 5.56 caliber, to an unlicensed person.
You are required to report all such sales that occur on or after August.
You know where the criminals get them?
They break into your house to get them.
By August 14, 2011.
Now this has already been going on.
Even if this says it kicks in later.
And here's the big news.
They are going to the houses of people and demanding without warrants to be let in to see the guns.
These people are all too scared to talk about it.
And harassing them and getting them in their face.
You must continue reporting multiple sales for the rival subject to this demand letter until we provide a written notice to stop.
Just do what we say.
You work for us now.
So this means licensed gun dealers now work for the government.
This is indentured servitude.
Read the Declaration of Independence.
You are now an enforcer for them.
You're now deputy dog of the dirty ATF.
The required information must be submitted on ATF Form 3310.12, report of multiple sale or other disposition of certain rifles.
No later than the close of business on the day, the multiple sale or other disposition takes place.
And then they tell them in private, don't tell people we're having you do this either.
It's like they told folks, sell the guns to who we're sending to get them, and don't say anything or we're going to videotape it.
And it was their agent coming to get it anyways.
And they have a form you gotta fill out.
Be advised, in addition to the record information required by this letter, licensees remain obliged to submit reports of multiple sales of other dispositions when the licensee sells or otherwise disposes.
Of pistols or revolvers.
Or any combination thereof.
Oh!
See the news is saying high-powered rifles, really, 22 and above?
And now it's pistols and revolvers.
That's other big news.
That's not in the APA.
This is basically all guns.
Bob Chapman, again, I'm hyperventilating here because they're harassing the gun owners.
ATF harassing gun owners that buy two or more guns, handguns, rifles, you name it.
There's no law.
They give a fake code.
Gun control by stealth, outside the law, and we can find the articles where they were already doing this last year, quote, ordering them.
It was like ATF orders the headline, gun dealers report, you know, people buying more than one gun, I think was the headline.
I mean, Bob, they can just do whatever they want under this, and this signals the implementation by stealth that Obama said to his gun grabbers, don't worry, I'm going to do this outside Congress.
Well, first of all, they're looking at all weapons, but particularly, I think, what they call assault weapons.
That's why that 5.56mm is mentioned there.
millimeters is mentioned there the the only thing you can do is go to your congressman and senator and tell them that you don't want this sort of thing to happen if It's wrong.
The angle here is Obama's stealth gun control goes live.
uh... gun purchasers uh... harassed or or witch hunt obama launches witch hunt against u.s.
gun owners uh... you know uh... begins visiting homes of people that buy two or more uh... rifles or handguns and then just point out that they were already ordering this last year so now they've issued a letter this is total stealth and they're going into gun shops They're going into gun shows where it's mainly licensed dealers.
We have private sellers who are allowed to sell, you know, the guns they've got.
And the people show their ID, everything.
It's an illegal alien.
It's fake.
The ATF sends them in and they send grandpas to jail.
I mean, we are witnessing their stealth assault.
And then remember, Bob, these are the people, as you said, caught shipping the guns in and then lying to Congress.
I mean, where is the Attorney General getting in trouble?
And if you can't work it through Congress, sooner or later, someone's gonna come to one house, and they demand to go in, and someone's gonna say no, and there's gonna be a confrontation, and it's gonna be some dead ATF people.
That's what is going to happen, and it's going to spread.
Well, you know, I've tried to be peaceful about this, and we want to have things be peaceful, but this is what kicked off Lexington and Concord.
This is what started the Republic.
They put up with so much abuse, but at the end of the day, they said, you're not taking my guns, Redcoats.
And the Redcoats shot a bunch of people and turned them into martyrs, and it was on.
And it's a good sign that a lot of ATF people are blowing the whistle now.
They realize this is getting... I mean, we got a scumbag president criminal raping the country, outside of law, shipping guns to Mexico and using it to come after our guns.
And it's time for the ATF agents to come out with their union and say, we're not doing this anymore.
We're not criminals.
It's time to say no to Hitler.
It's time to say... Bob, do you agree it's time to start saying no?
Absolutely, and we can go through Congress, and if they don't do anything, it's going to degenerate.
And anybody in law enforcement will tell you that.
And they certainly don't want to be on that end of it.
And if I was an ATF employee, I certainly wouldn't want to be there now, because sooner or later, they're going to try to go into homes and they're going to get killed.
Well, Bob, you know how many veterans there are that don't care about living and who have totally committed that they're going to go out David J. Smith for Newswatch Magazine.