Paul Joseph Watson and Alex Jones host Robert Kiyosaki to dissect a rigged financial system where ERISA, fractional reserve banking, and Rockefeller's 1904 removal of financial education create a debt-dependent proletariat. They argue that schools indoctrinate students into servitude while the ultra-rich exploit tax loopholes, urging listeners to hedge against hyperinflation with silver and gold rather than relying on politicians or mainstream media. The discussion expands to include Jesse Ventura's investigations into JFK assassination conspiracies, staged terror attacks like the Gulf of Tonkin incident, secret FEMA camps, and multinational control over water resources, ultimately framing these events as evidence of a collapsing society requiring total individual financial sovereignty. [Automatically generated summary]
So, I mean, just go back and look at what Rand Paul actually wrote, and the documents, the ideas that were the foundational basis of his entry into politics in the first place.
We're gonna go to Ronald in Jersey.
Sorry, yeah, Ronald in Jersey, go ahead, you're on the air, Ronald.
It's a little bit off topic, but I wanted to talk about this a little bit.
I know a lot of people appreciate it in the country because it's an endemic problem.
When I was 17 years old, I was told that I needed to go to college and that getting a college degree, regardless of basically what it was in, was important.
And my parents signed a student loan, signed a promissory note jointly.
And basically now that the globalism has helped crash the system, Subsidize our own failure, and we've been convinced that low prices and buying cheap products for China would benefit us, you know.
You know, I'm unable to pay this debt, and, you know, it's been...
I've been put in such a position where, you know, debt is not even dismissible in bankruptcy court.
I'm basically a serf to, you know, the bankers, and they took this...
They take this promissory note, and just like the mortgage fraud, they sell it to Um, they sell it ten and twelve times over and make money up and down and I'm expected to pay this debt for the rest of my life and can't get from under it.
So, I wanted to see if you had any specific information about student loans and, you know, the fraud that's behind them as well as most other debt instruments in our country.
I mean, in the UK, a lot of people think you can get away from student loans by simply moving out.
I'm afraid that's not the case.
As he said, they hound you down.
And it's this whole process of, you know, getting you into debt simply to be indoctrinated to become a servant of the establishment, which is what university is all about.
I went to university and it's about parroting what they tell you.
The best university student is somebody who can regurgitate wholesale what's fed into them.
They don't teach you how to think.
And if you go to YouTube and watch Valedictorian Speaks Out Against Schooling, I think that will exemplify exactly what I'm talking about in that context.
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Last week, Ron Paul, Lou Dobbs, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, Max Keiser, Gerald Solente, they've all predicted what's now happening financially to our financial system.
But Robert Kiyosaki, best-selling author, multi-times over, of richdad.com, going back five years, he's been breaking down everything that is happening and unfolding in our society as well.
And his new book out, Conspiracy of the Rich, The Eight New Rules of Money, richdad.com.
He's just finished another book, An Unfair Advantage, which is soon to be released.
He is an American investor, businessman, self-help, offer, and motivational speaker.
Kiyosaki is best known for Rich Dad, Poor Dad series of motivational books.
He has written over 15 books, which have combined sales of over 26 million copies.
And he is somebody who really tells it like it is, and he's with us.
I mean, all you do is listen to what Greenspan was saying, and Bernanke was saying, and Clinton and Bush, and you kind of get the idea that you're being, you know, screwed.
So it wasn't that hard to figure it out.
It's just, I think the toughest thing for people is what can I do?
What can I as an individual do?
And I think that's where my company, Rich Dad, comes in is we teach people how to avoid the pitfalls of falling prey to the ultra-rich.
Well, I'd say After 71, when Nixon broke the Brent-Woods agreement and put us on the dollar standard, not the gold standard, then anybody who was saving money was the biggest loser.
And then in 1974, the government passed ERISA, Employee Retirement Income Security Act.
And the reason they did that, as best I can tell, is because my job was to My father's generation, the World War II generation, wasn't in the stock market because they got hammered during the Great Depression.
So guys like my dad, you know, he wouldn't go into the stock market.
So in 74 they passed ERISA, which is now the 401k, and now they require most employees to put their money into mutual funds.
And I don't know if you know the ratio, but John Bogle of Vanguard says you put up 100% of the money, you take 100% of the risk, and they take 80% of the profits.
And this compounding expenses just rips the little guy apart.
But gold's up four-fold, though they try to suppress it.
Robert Kiyosaki, richdad.com, an icon out there.
No need to really introduce him.
We're going to come back from this quick break and give him the floor to walk through the pitfalls of the elite, the scam investments versus what he does with his money to great success.
He'll be with us for the next 55 minutes.
We're honored to have him.
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Well, when you say to your child, go to school, get good grades and get a safe, secure job, the moment you've done that, you've programmed to pay taxes at that point.
So the harder you work, the higher percentage of taxes you pay.
to save money.
And the problem with saving money, as you know, from the fractional reserve system, the Fed and the Treasury are allowed to print money.
So your money is devalued in the savings plan.
The third, when they print money, you're eaten alive by inflation.
And you can see inflation creeping up in food right now.
And then the fourth way is they tell you to put it into a retirement plan filled with mutual funds, stocks, bonds, and things like that.
And what happens is the taxes go against the person who does that, but also their money is flowing to the rich.
Now, I'm not saying it's wrong because, you know, every coin has two sides.
Well, earlier you were talking about the pension funds and the ratio and 401Ks, the mutual funds.
Now they're openly, and this is already happening in Europe, it's called austerity, where almost all the taxes we pay goes to service debt that they made out of nothing via fractional reserve banking, and now the derivative scam that even leverages it further, and
You get to park your money, which is savings and pensions, and people who move their money.
In my world of finance, it's called the velocity of money.
I want my money back as soon as possible.
Possible so I can buy another asset and I mean an asset not stocks bonds or mutual funds So I'm constantly moving my money and what the system the banking system does is Programs you to park your money So you put it into savings and you know they save save save save and then you put it in a retirement plan Let's say starting at 25 and you hope it's there at 65. I do not do that Yeah.
I said, poor dad, I said, your house is not an asset.
It's the bank's asset.
And if you could wake up to that, oh, no, no, you don't know what you're talking about.
And now we have people who are walking away from their mortgages because the mortgage is worth more than the house.
And that's what a little financial education, these guys wouldn't be able to brainwash you.
I'm not saying they're good or bad people.
I'm saying if you don't know, somebody's going to pick your pocket.
Okay, first of all, there's two books people should read if they want to understand Rich Dad.
Rich Dad, Poor Dad was really the basics.
And Rich Dad, Poor Dad is a book on accounting, but it sold 24 million copies because it explains what our school I don't know.
highest tax of all the quadrants.
That started in 1943 as the Current Tax Payment Act, which went against the Constitution.
And they could tax, the government got paid before the employee got paid.
Now the next quadrant is the S quadrant, which stands for Small Business Self-Employed or Specialist, like a doctor or a lawyer.
The tax laws changed for them in 1986 with the Tax Reform Act.
And they were just, you know, that was part of the Reagan thing.
They were trying to collect more taxes.
On the right side of the quadrant, there's B, and B stands for big business, 500 employees or more.
And I stands for investor.
There's an investor class.
Many people invest, like they invest in a mutual fund, but they're not, they invest, but they're not investors.
Investors are pure capitalists because they're always raising capital.
So for a guy like me, since I have more than 500,000 employees, I have 300 employees and I'm always raising capital via debt and things like that.
I pay no tax.
See, if you look at the tax code, the Internal Revenue Tax Code, most of the code is how to avoid taxes.
But the trouble is if you go to school and you're taught by the socialist of the school system, they're actually teaching you to be the proletariat, the working class, working for the bourgeois, the rich.
Why? I just want to be a capitalist.
I don't want to pay all that tax.
The government needs guys like me who provides jobs.
And I have large apartment houses.
And I have oil wells.
I produce constantly.
So the tax laws are written for me, except the school system doesn't tell you about the other side of the coin.
So, how are you, you know, physically, you know, live in nice houses, have a lot of money, sell, you know, tens of millions of bucks, but then not pay any taxes?
Let's continue to quantify this with Robert Kiyosaki of RichDad.com.
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Robert, you know, for the average person who can't buy oil well operations or drilling operations, the average person who can't buy big apartment houses, and most people actually know in Austin who've done well over time, that's exactly what they do do.
What does the average person start doing to get in the right quadrant?
No, it's like the NEA, the National Education Association, Forbes calls them the National Extortion Association.
And they really are agents of the ultra-risk to prevent people from knowing how the tax and debt systems work.
So all I did was having a rich dad who didn't go to school, my best friend's father, he kind of helped me crack the code, and I began to understand why there's no financial education in our schools.
Why do they try and control the media all the time?
And I got to be very suspicious.
And I'm not against our troops, but I went to Vietnam twice, and I realized I was being lied to.
And so that's when I kind of woke up and said, okay, I'm going to listen to my rich dad.
I'm going to find out what's really going on.
So that's all I do.
When I write rich dad, poor dad, I say your house is not an asset.
I got hate mail from my friends who are realtors.
You know, I didn't say don't buy a house.
It says it's not an asset.
And, you know, in 2002, I wrote Rich Dad's Prophecy.
And it was about the biggest stock market crash in history that's still coming.
And it's about the 401k.
And at that time, the Wall Street Journal, Smart Money, and Money Magazine just...
hung me up the flagpole and was the second crucifixion.
And then today, our school system still bring in the bankers and tell you to save money, and they still bring in the financial planners and tell you to put your money in a 401k for the long term.
And I'm saying that another side to that, that's where I make my money, is on ignorance.
And right now, if you don't have much money, and I've been saying this for years, because I'm actually a silver buff, silver is the best investment of all because it's a consumable precious metal.
Whereas gold is hoarded.
For the first time in the history of the world, there is more gold than silver on planet Earth.
So silver is a bargain.
Look, even at 25 bucks, and I hear some morons tell me, I don't have any money.
And correct me if I'm wrong, but I've read a lot of numbers and statistics and seen reports that they're now selling more gold than they are mining each year for the first time, but it's even worse with silver, that they can't find the silver they need to supply.
I'm sure Robert Kiyosaki will probably be in that.
We're going to come back.
Long segment coming up.
Sorry about that break.
We've got to go to it.
Why they told us don't buy gold and silver.
I mean they knew the rich were in there buying it They wanted it for themselves.
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there in your little bungalow in Hawaii, now owning a major oil drilling operations, gold mine, silver mine, 4,000 plus apartment units, and you know how to basically use the tax system they've written for the elite, where you pay almost no taxes.
that's what i tell us just for my god is that in inflation in nineteen eighty twenty five hundred announced i'm gonna start getting real nervous when it gets up there yet twenty five but i think i think it's pretty accurate on that it's time to start pulling in your horns of uh...
look at something else like right now i'm actually pulling in my horns of gold once it's past eleven hundred and a little too rich for me i still bought silver but now i'm investing in my solar company so because i think they'll like You guys are saying that's the way it's going to go.
So you basically look at the trends and hedge your bets throughout the trends and don't just plump your money down the bank getting almost zero percent.
Right, and the reason I want to be on your show is because of InfoWars.
I agree 100%.
They want to control what you hear and what you think.
And they will censor you.
and there's no censorship, it's a bunch of bull.
You won't be censored in this country.
So that's the thing I'm saying.
You've got to understand that you have to be smarter.
You know, what I'm terrified of right now, there's going to be what they call, you know, when it goes parabolic, when gold passes 3,000, and everybody will roll in there, and then they're going to get suckered out again.
*laughter* Well, when you've got 2% of the population in gold, and they're talking about maybe 10% in the next two years, that's when you know there's a serious situation.
And I think there's a long time, and this is my personal view, until they do try to deflate the bubble.
When we look at this military industrial complex owned by the big mega six banks, they're now openly saying that they're going to start taking pension funds and taxing them.
We talked about that.
So desperate people do do desperate things.
At your bottom line, looking into your crystal ball, where do you see society?
I mean, do you see this recession, depression getting worse?
Yeah, so if you stood in there listening to what your mommy and daddy told you, you know, let's go to school and get a job, work hard, save money, buy a house, but it's an asset.
And give your money to Wall Street through a 401k, you're probably going to get fleeced.
Well, basically, you have to understand the rules of the rich.
I'm not saying they're good or bad.
A lot of greedy poor people, a lot of greedy rich people.
But the smarter you are, you don't become a victim to it.
I mean, you need to take control.
Exactly what Alex Jones is saying, you need to take control of what you put inside your head.
You know, if you don't control that, you're screwed.
You've got to take control of what you put into your head.
So if you listen to this garbage the school system puts out and politicians put out that Wall Street puts out and banks put out, you're going to get hammered.
And there is that lie of advertising that perception is reality.
know if you stumble off a thousand foot cliff and you think there's water at the bottom and there isn't, your perception that you saw water at the bottom isn't going to save you.
Yeah, I think about the general public who are starting to wake up a little bit, but they still have no clue how deep this almost hologram of disinformation is that's projected into society, and then we repeat the disinfo, and that gives it that tangible reality, but it's not reality.
It is going to hyper-inflate the currency, drive up prices, but then the new debts and fractional reserve banking calculations that are made will be made in the new denomination and value, and so we'll just stay in debt and actually get into worse debt.
My main mission is just to wake people up so they know how they're being hammered, because the big central banks have openly stated their plan.
It was to engineer all this, collapse society, and then use the social unrest as a pretext to swing around the homeland security grid on the American people.
And that's already now coming from behind the curtain into plain view.
Uh, and so I'm simply pouring almost all of our assets into this information warfare operation, uh, to counter the system.
So I guess I'm kind of like a, uh, for lack of a better term, you know, kind of like a fly in my information warfare plane, you know, uh, into the deck of their biggest capital ship, just trying to get people to realize what's happening.
And we've got emergency backup to fund the operation with gold and silver, uh, investments.
I'm trying to intensify the amount of films and material I'm putting out, but that's basically it.
Now, when you look at Maine, Yeah, as England goes, so goes the rest of the world with all this tyranny.
Have you noticed in the last month the government's announced that all paychecks will now be deposited with the government first and then they will pay you digitally to your bank account what they wish?
They really want to get us on this cashless system so they can really target the entire black market economy and shut it down.
they don't know anything else but to help them by taking our party what political advice would you get out of the states rights movement taking back control of washington i see that is the best uh...
You know, everybody wants to change the government, which is almost fundamentally impossible.
There's too many people making too much money with exactly the way it is.
Wall Street and Goldman Sachs being one of them.
But I can change me.
And what you've been hearing me say is that I play by the rules of the rich.
But if you don't know what those rules are, You're in trouble.
So Conspiracy of the Rich is where it kind of starts, and this is the first, I didn't know my publicist had released it, but my next book, An Unfair Advantage, The Power of Financial Education, goes into how debt and taxes make guys like me rich.
But our school system will never teach you that, because they don't want you to know that.
So I just explain the rules of the rich, and I watch out for myself.
and that way, and I make a lot of people rich and all this, but if I don't take care of myself, I can't save anybody else.
So that's kind of my ground.
My father was a political animal.
He ran for governor of the state of Hawaii, you know, and that was the most horrifying, ugly thing I'd ever seen in my whole life.
So I don't have any faith in the two-party system.
I don't have any faith in government, because as you and I know, the Fed and the central banks control the world.
That's good It's wonderful to teach people to be rugged individualists like you are Robert, but They're just adding more and more taxes, more and more controls, more and more selective enforcement.
I see this down the road where they're going to start trying to selectively change rules or selectively enforce them to try to shut down the cowboys like yourself.
see if you understand that really the rules they'd have to shut themselves down in my best defense is to play on their side so you know the inside baseball rules you basically are with the owners of the casino because you know their blueprint so Yeah. And that's what Rich Dad stands for.
And they've got so many of the poor tricked into thinking they lobby government to protect them from the ultra-rich when the ultra-rich finance the government.
Well it's not so much wealthy as they now have control over their lives.
You see, if you learn the rules of the rich, which is get in debt, you will get richer.
You see, it's knowledge is power, but misinformation is damaging.
And so all of these guys who are trying to save their house and save money for their retirement and all this, I think that's good if you have no But if you want to beat the system, you gotta get spoiled.
I saw an article in the Wall Street Journal a few months ago where they admitted that it's the people worth over $10 million, they're the first to walk away from a house that's upside down, but then a blue-collar person, they'll go down with the ship.
Yes, but that's changing right now, because I was at my local Italian restaurant and the three cooks came out and said, hey, can we ask you a question?
I said, yes.
we haven't paid our mortgage in 18 months.
And I said, why'd you stop?
He said, because the mortgage was greater than our house.
Well, sir, hopefully we can have you on every few months and really get in-depth on the important work you're doing.
Robert, thank you so much.
Thank you very much.
And Kiyosaki, just an amazing interview there.
This hour is almost over.
And I tend to agree with Robert.
I mean, I think when gold goes above 25 right now, that's when it becomes a bubble and dangerous.
But I do agree with him.
I have so many people who don't have a lot of money ask me, where do I get in?
Well, you get in with silver dollars and silver half dollars.
And I have the man on the phone who months and months ago bought silver when it was $2, $3 under what it is an ounce right now, who bought a whole bunch of it, and he's still got that great deal for you.
It's gone up a little bit.
But, Ted, briefly, tell folks about those silver half dollars.
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And, of course, the least expensive way to get the silver dollar is the creature from Jekyll Island.
Well, if they'd have listened to Robert Kiyosaki 10 years ago, or yourself, they'd have bought silver when it was $5 an ounce, gold when it was $280 an ounce.
Uh, now's the time to get into silver, folks, and I agree with what Robert was saying earlier.
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I'm honored that former Minnesota governor, movie star, mayor, talk show host, and the star of the number one hit on TruTV, Conspiracy Theory, back for its second season premiering here in just about a week and a half.
Boy! Well, I forgot to mention, you did XFL and NFL, didn't you?
Yeah, I did three years of the National Football League, got two at Tampa Bay Radio and one with the Vikings, and then I did one year that the XFL existed.
Football's football, you know?
It's just played at different levels by the professionals that do it, but it's still the same game, whether you're playing it at junior high or high school or all the way to the pros.
Well, I had the opportunity to go, but unfortunately the show came first and we had gone out that day way out to the tip of the Gulf, which is a few hours drive from New Orleans.
And unfortunately, I didn't get back until they were actually kicking it off.
And by then, you know, you shot with us in the heat down there.
I was pretty exhausted, so I took the easy way out.
We're going to get a break in a moment, but I want to get into the show.
I mean, obviously, I've been a consultant and I appear in quite a few of the episodes that are coming up, but I have to say, the last season was shocking and informative.
From what I've seen, it looks like this one's shaping up to even be more hardcore.
I think the topics are even, I don't know how you say they're better, but more exciting even.
And the other thing on the production end, on our end of it, any time you go from your first season to your second season, you're going to iron out some of the rough edges.
You're going to do better on the focus of what you're trying to accomplish.
And so a second season is always the first season of doing a show like this.
You kind of fly by the seat of your pants.
The second season, you have a good idea of what works and what doesn't work and how to go about getting the information we need to get.
So I think it's always a work in progress and hopefully always an improved work in progress.
Well, I suppose my favorite would have to be JFK because that's the one that, you know, has had my passion for 30-odd years now of reading and studying about it.
So that's the one that really strikes home with me.
And also because my feelings about JFK are this.
If a coup d'etat could happen, if you could remove a president, our president, and get away with it, well, what can't you do then?
See, that's what, to me, lays the table for anything that comes later.
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Former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura is here with us today kicking off the promotion.
We're honored to have him for the second season of Conspiracy Theory.
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It's gonna be kicking off October 15th 10 p.m. Eastern Time 9 p.m. Central on true TV It was the number one hit show last year and I had so many people saying only eight episodes.
We want more I've gotten so many emails so many calls so many People on the street have said, you know Bring back the show and and now that the second season has been announced people are calling me saying will there be a third season Jesse?
This is cable or satellite television, so it runs differently than regular network TV in the fact that they buy them by, for lack of a better term, the lot.
Like they bought seven and then they bought eight.
And that's the way they do it there.
It's not like a yearly thing like network TV does and all that.
So whether they could order another eight of them at any moment, they could do it today or they could do it tomorrow, What if network TV wanted to say give you a Larry King show because I know people talked about that or Well,
what have you got offered a broadcast television show would you would you even accept it or is Mexico too too much fun I don't know You know, again, it's one of those hypotheticals, Alex, that until it happens I'm not going to even bother thinking about it because there's nothing, you know, happening right now that indicates that.
And so I just keep doing what I do.
And now if it does rear its head, well, then I'll have to sit down and make a decision on what I prefer to do.
Getting back into the television show, for stations that just joined us, we were talking about your favorite of the eight episodes of your investigations being the JFK.
And I'm privy to some of the groundbreaking research you guys have done.
I don't know how much you can get into, but you were making the point that if they can kill a president in broad daylight and get away with it.
Through a great majority of our investigations and shows, these eight shows, a great deal of them at some point, at some point during the investigation Good
When you were down here in Texas, I don't know how much we can get into ahead of the show, but I tell you, that was amazing at that particular facility.
it but did your investigation just confirm your previous research or did it cause you to question no i think it confirmed what i've believed in studying that particular conspiracy for many many years i i felt very vindicated and kind of sat back and thought gee i was right yeah
You know, I noticed, consulting and traveling around the country to a few places with you and here in Texas, that over and over again, it was a mirror of last season, like when you were at HAARP, when they hide inside the buildings and won't come out.
Something that you can have in the palm of your hand that says you did what you did.
We can't even get a receipt from our government over the millions and trillions of dollars.
And I have to laugh when the debate gets to health care.
And they talk about paying for it.
Alex, if we just accounted for all the money in these two wars and all the rest of it they spend on this crap, we could pay for health care to where we'd all probably have our own doctor living in the garage.
Well, Wall Street was the one that I thought was going to be the most difficult show because it's so, I mean, these power brokers and their money, they know how to put up the smoke screens.
They are professional at doing that, of making things so convoluted, so hard to understand.
And that's how they get away with it.
But it turns out, from all indication, people are telling me the Wall Street show could be the best of the lot.
Because they said, we managed to break it down into a simplistic form to where everyone out there will truly understand what happened.
Sure. And that's what you're going to see on our show.
We talk to a few of these underlings and I'll tell you they're very vocal because they're not very happy that they're the ones that are going to jail and the big criminals are walking away scot-free and more wealthy.
Shapiro works for them because Alex they're so arrogant now because we we sit back and I guess they figure there's nothing we can do about it anyway that's the only conclusion I can come to.
I'm sure you've seen in the news, but it was in the BBC last week.
Inventor of the Internet.
No, it's not Al Gore.
The real inventor came out.
In fact, guys, Google that and put it on screen for me.
Inventor of Internet came out and said the Internet is being shut down incrementally with this cybersecurity.
And I noticed that they admit now in the media that Israel launched this this this this worm that attacked Iran and China and others.
But then the government came out and said, see, we need cybersecurity to take over the infrastructure of the Web and spy on you because of this new worm.
There's a new report out from Tennessee where a guy in the county didn't pay a $75 fire department tax, so they came out and watched his house burn, but then put the neighbors out because that house then caught the neighbor's house on fire.
Whatever happened to the laws about failure to render aid?
If I'm driving down the street and somebody's just had a car wreck and I don't stop and help them, I can go to prison, but now under privatization, our taxes go up, but they're laying off police, firemen, and they're saying, "If you don't pay a car, you're going to
Well, I mean, I'm sure I'm going to get plenty of flack over this.
I said far more important than building a mosque in New York City is I would like to ask why religion doesn't have to pay property taxes for the services that they receive and are rendered Well, I'll say this.
All the rest of us have to pay.
When they're getting the idea, I mean, if someone disrupts church, a policeman will come in at the call and take care of it.
If the church catches on fire, the fire department will put it out.
And if they need their roads plowed up in Minnesota, the public plows do it.
How come they don't have to pay and everybody else does?
Well, I'll say this, because in the First Amendment it says, Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting it for exercise thereof, and I...
At least in Minnesota, maybe in Texas they do, but I can unequivocally tell you in Minnesota, the way our property tax system, and I think it's the same everywhere, religious places don't have to pay nothing.
The reason they didn't want that, because if the government starts having taxes, they can then have tax incentives, like George Bush's faith-based initiative, where the government starts paying churches, and this is...
To me, you can't absolve them of that just for fear of the other.
That shouldn't happen.
These are buildings.
These are properties that get services from the public domain, which we all chip in and pay for.
Okay, if you're an atheist, why should your tax dollars, if you don't believe in God and you don't believe in any of that, why should your tax dollars go to pay for those places to get services rendered?
Oh yeah, no, I just told them the story about how my dad, I would come home with the teachings that they were teaching me in school, and my father and I would be at the dinner table and have battles over it because he didn't feel we were being told the real truth in school, and it turned out he was correct.
And I always like to laugh about it today, my dad died 91, but I always tell people, you know, it's amazing.
He died in 91, but he gets smarter every day.
Because the things he told me growing up, now that I'm 59 years old, I'm looking back and remembering how extremely bright this man was about world affairs.
And here's a guy that only went to eighth grade.
He was a World War II veteran and worked his whole life as a street laborer.
Well, it's sad that so many of that great generation are dying off, both my grandfathers, of course, World War II veterans, and, you know, when we're out on the road driving around or in airports, you talk a lot about your dad and those lessons he taught you.
Briefly, get into that story about he was really too old to even join the military and all the combat he saw.
And the amazing thing about her was, as she got old, every night they'd do the reruns of Bash.
and she would watch the evening news and never miss MASH right after it before she'd go to bed, which was probably very similar because MASH was Korea, and it was probably very similar to just a few years earlier in North Africa.
And, of course, your dad being in the European theater and the North African, that was really the toughest battles, they say, statistically, was against Erwin Rommel, the Desert Fox.
Hi, this is former Governor Jesse Ventura, and this is the Alex Jones Show.
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I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.
Yeah, I can't tell you it's in stone, but I think the first one's Plum Island.
Yeah, well, Plum Island, what's interesting about that, of course, is it's located right on the end of Long Island.
And really what intrigues you about it is to go into the history of it.
It's a biological center where our government tests out biological diseases on animals, like hoof and mouth and things like that, to prevent it.
That's the upfront story about Plum Island.
Now, the conspiracy in Plum Island is this.
Lyme disease, the first recorded case, was found in Lyme, Connecticut, which is right across the water from Plum Island.
And then you go into the history of Plum Island and you learn this.
The godfather of Plum Island is a Nazi named Eric Traub.
And at the end of World War II, he was right underneath Himmler.
And his expertise was creating biological warfare using ticks and mosquitoes and inflicting them upon another country with devastation of biological warfare.
Well, he probably should have stood trial at Nuremberg.
But, of course, we all know at the end of World War II, there was a battle between us and the Soviets of how many scientists we could all get.
And he's one that made it here.
And now, there were good to that.
We got Wernher von Braun, who's the godfather of our space program at NASA.
But we also got Eric Traub, whose expertise was biological warfare using ticks and mosquitoes.
He is the godfather of Plum Island.
He is the man that created this place.
So, I mean, call me, you know, paranoid Alex, but any time I know that a Nazi created something and we're now using it, my suspicion rate goes up.
And as you know, they're now building 36 level 4 bioweapons labs in the middle of nowhere, but also in major cities like San Antonio, Texas and in places like that.
And there's a lot of evidence that not just Lyme disease came from Plum Island, but also that the West Nile virus and so many other zoological Alex,
Well, there's two issues here, and I want to get back into the government-sponsored terror, both the stuff they staged, but the open terror that they call They
Well, my point is that in the tape, it was from his radio show, he claims that you were in a dressing room with him and, quote, tried to intimidate him if memory serves.
Well, since we raised this, I want you to hear it and be able to comment.
Here's Glenn Beck talking about Governor O'Reilly.
Jesse Ventura, here it is.
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I heard Jesse Ventura, what a dope this guy is.
I heard Jesse Ventura, who's nothing but a big, fat, dumb bully, and trust me, I know, he tried to intimidate me in the makeup room one day before a CNN show, and he's just a bully.
But, I mean, to be serious here, I remember right after you had your hip surgery, you came down and visited me in Austin, and that was the biggest you'd ever been.
Maybe 10 pounds overweight.
But, you know, when we were flying around the country, I saw you pull your shirt up a few times.
We were changing and stuff.
And, I mean, for somebody who's 59, I've never seen anybody with ripped muscles like you, Governor.
i consider the source well you know glenn is covering a lot of world government stuff but then he blames a low-level communist professors instead of admitting our pentagon i have the rand corporation documents i have the global trends Twenty twenty-five, a transformed world.
The policy of the mega banks that run the military industrial complex that Eisenhower warned us about is to have corporate welfare and to steal the wealth of the people to make us more easily controlled.
And meanwhile, he's claiming some low level professor, you know, is the top of the pyramid.
And I think people are getting wise to him.
That's why his ratings are plunging.
And the New York Times talked to him and he admitted that he's got major friction with Fox and they may throw him under the bus.
You know, he's become exceptionally wealthy for what he does because of, and let me throw that out to the people of the United States because of the minions of lemmings out there that could take someone like Glenn Beck and make him a messiah.
Well, I will say this, it again reaffirms, you all remember when Michael Moore spoke to Congressman Conyers and he sat Michael Moore down and said, let me tell you something, we don't even read the bills we vote on?
Yes. And that's on top of the other camps they've got under some...
But they didn't even know what was in the bill!
That's the point!
These people are not reading what they vote on, they're being told by their political parties how to vote.
Exactly. Because, you know, the stuff they're using down there, this dispersant, it has four lethal chemicals in it, including, I think, cadmium and arsenic and two other lovely things.
And I'm for the life of me trying to figure out how adding billions of barrels of lethal chemicals to already saturated oil water is a good thing.
I can't figure that out.
I am not a scientist, but it doesn't make sense to me that by adding poison to the water is going to be beneficial more so than just the oil in the water.
going to come back with our final segment with Governor Jesse Ventura.
I might twist his arm and do five more minutes in the next hour.
Don't go out.
And...
And we'll get into all this hyping of staged terror, and we'll talk about another 9-11 investigation they're doing with Governor Jesse Ventura.
Don't forget, folks, his book, American Conspiracies, number four, New York Times bestseller.
We've got it discounted at Infowars.com.
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We'll be right back on the other side.
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You've got to get you down here and play our producer, Jaron.
He's a pretty good guy.
Now, Governor, we've only got about four minutes left.
I'm sure you've seen the hype, the terrorists.
We have specific targets in Europe and the U.S.
Turns out they had drills planned two months ago.
It's a global drill.
And it just so happens it was scheduled for this week.
And we have all these White House people, even under Obama, saying we need a terror attack.
in the Financial Times of London, to make people trust their government Yeah, well it also, you know, if they're talking like that, then it kind of winds back to 9-11, shouldn't we start questioning it?
Well, no, but so many don't listen to you, Alex, and so many don't listen beyond the soundbite news, and it's those people we have to try to reach.
Well, the 9-11 episode, the most exciting part of it will be that I speak to a woman who was right in there when the alleged plane hit, and you will hear an eyewitness account Has this verified your suspicions?
Oh, yeah.
It's reaffirmed.
Yes, very much so.
It took it that way rather than the other way.
Whenever you talk 9-11 long enough, Alex, eventually you start doubting yourself.
You start questioning yourself.
And when I speak to a woman who survived the Pentagon and was right in there, and she reaffirms my suspicions, that's good for me, too.
I need that every now and then because it just seems you're out there fighting the unwinnable war, and occasionally you need an ally.
You know, people need to, you know, that's, I don't know where the wake up is going to take place.
I really don't.
But hopefully people are starting to question more the things they're told and not just this self-blinded belief that they, with our egos, that the government can't lie to us, that the government can be bad.
They can be because government is merely people and we need to lose the ego that the quite possibly evil people could be elected to powerful positions.
You need only look at Germany in the 1930s to clearly understand that.