Alex Jones and guests Gary Franchi, Bob Chapman, Ian Freeman, and Mark Edge dissect the Deepwater Horizon oil spill as a Goldman Sachs false flag to distract from sovereign debt collapse. They argue BPA plastics and water fluoridation constitute government chemical warfare causing eugenics, while asserting the state functions as a criminal monopoly on violence. The hosts advocate for libertarian resistance, including tax refusal, private security agencies, and secession via the Free State Project, warning that centralized authority threatens nuclear attacks and demanding listeners purchase survival supplies to fund their fight against the New World Order. [Automatically generated summary]
We are going to continue with your phone calls throughout the entire broadcast today. .
We've got our weekly visit with Bob Chapman coming up on the financial markets and where that's going and the fact that the Wall Street Journal, MSNBC are saying total collapse next year.
So it's gone from them saying the economy is getting better to more and more mainline analysts saying total collapse.
Now I wanted to get Gary Franchi up because he's a great guy and he's just doing so much important work and we're also today launching I procrastinated a bit because we've been busy, but we've now uploaded it in the highest quality.
Camp FEMA now available online at PrisonPlanet.TV for PrisonPlanet.TV members.
We're also simulcasting the radio show right now at PrisonPlanet.TV.
But I also suggest you buy the hard copy.
In fact, let me grab it.
of the film and support the filmmakers Gary Franchi and William Lewis with Don't Tread on Me, Rise of the Republic, featuring Cynthia Davis, Charles Key, Richard Mack, Alex Jones, Michael Bagnerig, Edwin Vieira, and many others.
This is about taking our country back.
The 9th Amendment, the 10th Amendment, getting good sheriffs elected, getting good legislatures elected, and then if Obama and FEMA say for 40-something days the states aren't allowed to build their own berms or block the oil until it's too late, If the states knew their rights, and we had patriots at the state level, I mean, look, it's pathetic to see Jindal and others saying, we're not allowed to fix it.
Since when are you waiting for the feds?
I mean, do you call the feds to clean the snow off your roof if you live in, say, Chicago or Detroit or New York?
Government, come clean the snow off my roof so it doesn't cave in!
And I want to go to calls with Franchi, for everybody that's holding quickly, with a quick comment, quick question from people.
I'm going to move fast.
But he's having a national viewing nationwide of Don't Tread on Me.
Again, you can watch it in high quality at PrisonPlanet.tv.
And now, their last film, Camp FEMA, documenting the FEMA camps, that's gone up today.
Now available.
You can watch it online at PrisonPlanet.tv.
But it is important to buy the hard copies so we can fund these operations.
So we can make future films.
Whether it's Invisible Empire, or Police State for the Rise of FEMA, or Don't Tread on Me, they're all available on DVD at Infowars.com.
But Gary, very exciting to have you joining us from Chicago via video Skype.
Tell us about this press release, this national event you're asking Infowarriors to get involved in, and I certainly hope they do, because every act of resistance is victory, and this film is key in reigniting the understanding of the Tenth Amendment.
But first off, what do you think of the states saying, we're not allowed to clean up the oil, we have to wait for Obama to tell us we can?
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I just want to say thanks for having me on the show.
As far as what you're talking about, the states waiting for the federal government to come in, that's absolutely ridiculous.
The states did not wait for you know to start the revolutionary war they came together and they they they forged a document they stood on that document and then they they won a war so it's you cannot sit around and wait for for mommy and daddy to come over and wash your hands you know after you've fallen on the playground you know you gotta you gotta dust off the dirt and you gotta keep running and that that's the beauty of america We take a few punches and we keep rolling.
Why wait for big government to come in and clean up the mess?
It's absolutely ridiculous.
And the states need to pick up the ball.
And look, they need to call in their local militias if they have local militias.
I mean, that's what this film is also about.
They need to call them in and start cleaning up the mess.
If we had a militia like we were supposed to and not some dirty word, the sheriff would say, okay, all the men that are in the militia under federal and state law, you know, get out here and help us deal with that.
But the feds have the opposite.
They have a federalized, federal police force militia that doesn't work, that's over-cost, that doesn't know the local terrain, and that comes in every time there's a crisis and uses it to expand control.
They do not want us being self-sufficient at the local level, and that's why they hate the constitutional militia.
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Well, plus they have all of our soldiers overseas.
Now, Gary, tell folks about how they can be a big part of reigniting the Tenth Amendment.
Because if we reignite the Tenth Amendment, it's bye-bye New World Order.
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Well, the way the founders set up this country was to have all these sovereign states work in concert in a federal structure.
So the states remained sovereign and they sent their representatives, who represented the people, to do the people's work in D.C.
Now, the representatives are doing their own bidding.
They're working for themselves, they're working for their party politics, and they're corrupt.
You know, special interests.
So, what we're doing now, by reigniting the Tenth Amendment, reigniting the Second Amendment, reigniting the constitutional militia, is with this film.
And what I really am so excited to report, Alex, is that we have 192 cities in 42 states who have actually signed up to have screenings.
There are over 106 screenings going to take place nationwide on June 26th.
All across the country, on or around June 26th.
I know there's going to be one in Houston at the Alamo Draft House.
The guys down there have over 106 people signed up on their Facebook page to have that screening.
People are renting libraries, theaters, they're doing it in their churches.
And again, when this is over, America won't be saved, but we'll be On that thousand mile journey, another five, six miles on the way, and look at how Lindsey Graham has now come out against the global warming tax, because he was outed, the fact that he's being blackmailed.
Look at how they're now, Bilderberg is admitting internally that their whole system's in trouble.
Right as they attain their world government, we see cracks all in the facade.
And the bottom line is, we can defeat these people if we understand that it's all about little actions.
Millions of little actions build up.
It's death by a million cuts.
And every one of us may be like a mosquito to the New World Order.
But we come over and bite the New World Order.
We come over and sting the New World Order like a little bee.
One bee stings you, you don't die.
But a hundred bees sting you, most people will die.
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You're talking about going down that road, that thousand mile road, and we're going in five mile increments.
Ed Griffin did a great work.
Something he always references is you cannot turn a cruise ship around mid You know, it takes a long time to turn that cruise ship around and we are in the process of shifting that rudder to bring us back to the constitutional foundation this country was founded upon.
Because of your show, because of your viewers, because of the supporters out there who are signing up to have screenings of this film.
Absolutely, and what we don't need is people always whining.
Every time we have a victory, I see the comments, most of them federally paid for, and that's come out in the news, going, there's no way to win, this is pathetic, this guy's a fed, that guy's a fed, just trying to get us all infighting.
We need to just ignore those people and preach the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, the Second Amendment, expose the central banks, expose the New World Order.
So as things get worse, people know who to blame, and they know The way out of this.
We've gotta expose the criminals, but also...
Lay out the alternative and have a national debate about it.
And I'm telling you, the globalists already, because they're intelligent, they've done the studies, they're already acting like losers.
They're buying armored compounds, they're moving out of the Western world, they're digging in.
And now their policy is to just completely wreck us, where we're so wrecked and so poor, we're too busy trying to survive to bring them to justice.
Well, I got news for them.
We're going to take that attack, like in a judo move, and we're going to throw them literally in a backflip that's going to break their political back.
We are going to annihilate them, and it is the political understanding of this that is unstoppable.
It is unstoppable.
So I commend you, Gary.
Give folks the website so they can find out more about hosting a screening.
And again, folks, once you have a screening, say, hey, let's organize another one in a month of Invisible Empire, New Order Defined.
Or let's organize another one in another month of Camp FEMA or Police State for the Rise of FEMA or of Endgame or of Terrorstorm.
And it is building this community.
It is bringing other people in to join together.
And then after the meeting, after 200 people come to a movie or 50 or 10 to your local library, it doesn't matter.
Two people together can change a whole town if they take action over time and say, now let's go to City Council.
Let's form an anti-fluoride group here.
Let's go read every week in Citizens Communications government documents about fluoride causing brain damage and sterility and reduced fertility.
Or let's go, you know, talk about the phony drug war and how the government ships in drugs every week at city council or the state legislature.
Or let's go to the legislature, you know, a hundred of us with packets of info and talk to legislators about passing 10th and 9th Amendment resolutions and what that means in our state.
Pick an issue, pick an enemy, attack it!
I mean, that's how this works, folks.
Take action.
Stop screwing around.
Okay?
When you engage the enemy, you will smash them.
But you've got to get up off your hind ends and start engaging them.
We've got the truth.
We've got history.
We've got the red, white, and blue.
We've got George Washington's spirit behind us.
We've got what it takes.
We've got the red blood.
All they've got's the scam.
We can sweep these people aside as soon as we get a fighting spirit.
unidentified
Amen, Alex.
Amen to that.
You know, one thing in the film that we talk about is solutions, and Charles Key, one of the representatives in the state of Oklahoma, has some excellent, excellent solutions that give teeth to the Tenth Amendment.
A lot of people say, well, oh, you can pass a resolution, but it just, it doesn't mean anything.
Well, he has actual legislation he talks about in the film that will give teeth to the Tenth Amendment, and we want everyone to go to DontTreadOnMeMovie.com/screening.html.
They can register for their screening right now.
There are over 106 screenings publicly listed on our website right now, and there are over 192 cities that are involved in this effort.
Well done, and they can do it again a month later in July and have 500 cities.
And again, people are welcome to do this with my documentaries as well.
Get the word out.
But this film is so important because it deals with how to take the states back, how to take the counties back, how to get our sheriff selected, how to kick the corrupt feds, who are nothing but errand boys for offshore banks, out of our states.
Get out of here!
And how the states can say, we're keeping our money.
The Feds aren't going to tell us how to live our lives.
The Feds aren't going to tell us how to run our schools.
The Feds aren't going to tell us what to do with our... It's over!
It's over!
Gary Franchi, let's go to some calls.
I want to go to the Genesis phone line system, then I'll go back to Adam, Rachel and others that are holding on our phone system down here.
Yes, Mr. Jones, when talking about this incident down in the Gulf, there's two things that come up that I would like to be asked of anybody that has any expertise.
One of them is the casing that they changed the design just days before the incident happened.
It went from a 5-inch casing to what was reported as a 9-7-8 to a 7-inch diameter.
And this was discussed in the MMS Coast Guard hearings, and I'm quoting out of this, when they're talking to Mark Hafley, who was the VP engineer, it says, when they went to ask him the question, don't you think the size of the casing you set up, your haliburton c-manners for failure.
And so basically, you know, it doesn't sound like they were trying to tunnel, it sounds like they were trying to build a bomb.
No, no, I've seen that and excise that out again and send it to ShowTipsAtInfoWars.com because I read that a few days ago and exactly.
And that's why everybody started throwing fits two weeks before when they got the order to add a larger casing.
On top of a smaller casing, and I know petroleum geologists don't know very little about drilling, but more than most of the general public, because I've done some research on it, but still almost nothing.
And we're going to do some shows with drilling experts, petroleum geologists.
A lot of them are scared to come on because they don't want to be blackballed by BP, because they all work together with the oil companies, kind of stick together.
It's on record that the people were on the rig, and this isn't normal, calling up, I mean, head engineers and cussing at the BP people in Houston.
I mean, going, listen, you bleeper, this is going to blow up!
And then two weeks later it did.
I mean, the men on the ships and the other engineers sat there and watched engineers, and believe me, this doesn't go on, folks, because I've talked to a lot of my family that works with petroleum engineers, roughnecks, plant managers, I had a great-uncle just died who ran, for decades, one of the biggest plants in Houston.
I mean, let me tell you, those people are yes sir, no sir, and that's old-fashioned, and they bust their butt.
I mean, it's like a slave operation on these oil rigs.
You know, my uncle worked offshore, the one out in East Texas.
In fact, I ought to get him on about this.
And, you know, you don't have head engineers with two or three degrees going, listen, you effin' idiots, this is gonna blow up!
I mean, do you understand that that's on record, that that was going on?
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Well, there's also on record, they talk about how they dumped the drilling mud before the concrete had an opportunity to set up.
There was a professor, Robert B. He was on 60 Minutes.
He's from UC Berkeley.
He's an engineer there.
He's been testifying.
And that's the other thing I like.
Why did they let the drilling mud out before it had an opportunity to set up?
It's like they pulled the pin on the grenade with that one.
And the other one about redesigning is like that's when they designed the bomb.
I read all this and I get in here and it's like, how do you even cover it?
I'm going to try to do some of that with Chapman.
Just hit headlines and get his take on it.
Some way to get all this news out.
Gary Franchi, I mean that is crazy that they did something here never done before and unorthodox and hours before it blew up they made another secret alteration that had people all over the drilling rig throwing fits.
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Well, it's irresponsible behavior and look what happened.
Now we have the fishing, shrimping boats out there in Louisiana.
People are getting sick.
Alternative Fuels and Solar Panels00:04:19
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Industry is dying there.
It's an absolute national tragedy and it's just one more reason why we have to move to alternative fuels, hydrogen fuel cells based on water, Stanley Myers type technology.
Just a few weeks ago, Jacobson here in the office brought me an amazing, a new scientist article.
Then we pulled up some others.
For MIT...
In the last few years developed a type of cheap solar panel that could literally free us from the power grid and then the World Bank bought it and won't let anyone have it.
Just another example of confirmed technology that taxpayer money pays for and then that DARPA just grabs and goes, here you go World Bank, you're our banking parasites, we worship you.
More calls straight ahead, stay with us.
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Gary Franchi taking your phone calls with us five minutes to the next hour.
Then it's going to be Bob Chapman.
I'm going to be interspersing news during that interview.
You know, I wanted to spend a whole hour today on Boat's Head to Team Sailor Drifting in Indian Ocean.
I said a prayer for her myself, because when you have children, especially daughters, you just imagine your 16-year-old daughter My daughters aren't 16 yet, but you imagine them in the future, 16, out in the southern Indian Ocean between Africa and Australia, totally shark-infested waters, 30-plus foot waves, and how the nanny state wants to ban Thirteen, fourteen-year-old scaling Everest.
Her brother, when he was sixteen, had the world record sailing circumnavigating the globe.
You know how many thousands of ships have gone down just coming to the New World?
How many tens of thousands of ships?
In some cases, reading some of the logs from the seventeen, eighteen hundreds, sixteen hundreds before that, as many as a third of the ships would be lost.
I mean, full-grown men on sailing ships get lost.
This is what our species has done to build what we built.
We're going to have those type of losses that we expect to colonize space.
This is what humanity is all about.
I don't have the courage.
I'm not scared of, like, fighting some, you know, 200-pound guy with a knife.
But I am scared of getting on a sailboat and circumnavigating the world.
I've been out in the middle of the ocean.
It's scary.
We're all scared of different things.
This is pure Americana.
This is pure human.
This is pure trailblazing.
And this young lady, instead of watching TV and playing with her iPad all day, she is out there doing something special.
You know how many men died trying to circumnavigate the globe?
Do you know who circumnavigated the globe first?
Magellan.
He died, by the way.
His ship made it back.
I think it was only like 16 people alive out of hundreds that went.
The ship had rotted down to almost nothing.
It took him, what was it, three years?
Magellan got killed fighting natives trying to come in and water and get coconuts.
Circumnavigator.
She's doing what Magellan did.
All right, I'm going to shut up now.
Gary Franchi, and again, in the midst of all this big global news, all these things that are happening, It's still interesting, and just to hear this morning that she put out the emergency beacons when her boat got capsized in those 30-foot, and it was what was predicted, a rogue wave, which comes in from the wrong angle, and that she's alive, at least for now.
That is great news.
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Well, you know, Alex, it's the fighting human spirit, the exploration spirit that made America great, as you know, as you just mentioned.
And you said so many people have perished searching for freedom.
People are still perishing, fighting for freedom.
And it's, you know, it's the people who are listening to the show out there in the streets now fighting for freedom in a new way.
And that's by passing out DVDs.
That's by hosting screenings.
It's by emailing their friends and their family, you know, attending protests.
You know, we all have this spirit inside of us that craves freedom.
Yeah, an oil rig blows up in the Gulf of Mexico, and that's one of the things that's the sign of the end of the world in the film.
Very, very spooky, but that's probably a coincidence.
It's not a coincidence that the CIA went to the makers of the X-Files, and so we want you to make an episode in the Lone Gunman.
About the government hijacking a jet by remote control to blame it on Al-Qaeda to fly it into the World Trade Center and NORAD stands down because the CIA is running drills of the exact same thing happening at the exact same time.
Now that is not a coincidence.
Gary, why do you think they do things like that?
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Well, Alex, they need to stage events so that they can bring in their New World Order, so they can clamp down on the police state.
But, I mean, why do you think they like to show us movies months or years before of the exact same thing they're going to do?
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Well, I think they try to preempt us.
They want to seed our mind, condition our mind to accept these things, so that when people come forward and try to bring it up later, it can be just, you know, discounted as coincidence or conspiracy theory.
Well, he joins us like a doctor once a week, he joins us like a doctor once a week, coming in, looking at the economy, week, coming in, looking at and And we've got the Wall Street Journal two days ago in their editorial pages saying they believe the U.S.
Who's always very careful about his predictions, and I really respect his brain, and unfortunately my thought processes go along the same route.
But I like counsel.
I mean, I believe I'm intelligent.
I've got a good track record of predictions and analyzing things, but there's nothing like Joining with other great minds, or other inquisitive minds, or other informed minds, or other curious minds, and to bounce ideas off each other.
And we've got MSNBC saying, buy barbed wire guns, get a bunker.
I'm not saying that.
I'm saying 30% chance that That yes, in the next six months, they will call it a total collapse.
Because they know it's already a collapse, but it's an incremental collapse.
And they've been lying to you, we've been telling you this for a decade, since they passed Glass-Steagall, that it was designed to destroy.
I mean, I had George Humphrey on here 11 years ago, before they passed Glass-Steagall, talking about it.
He's an economist.
But not just an economist, he's a successful businessman.
Very successful.
I'm not going to go into it, but he's a successful businessman.
That's the proof he's also smart, knows what he's doing on his own.
And he made films, made books, wrote books, made audio cassettes about it, about derivatives.
That's who I learned about it from.
Separately, Bob Chapman was writing about it at the same time, learned about it from him the last 14 years.
But we knew what this was going to do.
I mean, what does a black hole do in the middle of a galaxy?
It sucks the galaxy in.
What does jumping off a thousand foot cliff with no parachute do?
It kills you, deader than a hammer.
What does shooting yourself in the head with a .357 Magnum in the temple do?
It pretty much kills you.
Or you're going to be brain dead.
Uh, we know what's happening.
We know they engineered it.
But, the intel we've gotten from Bilderberg Group now, from our sources, Skelton's sources, Tucker's sources and others, is that they are dejected, they've got their world government, it is imploding economies, but...
It's gotten out of control.
Like the Bible says, to paraphrase, that your enemy will dig a pit for you and they will fall into it.
Yes, they've got all these trillions of made-up fiat dollars and other currencies, euros, you name it, but the world is realizing the scam that if we let the fractional system get us and put us in this False debt, that we are going to be slaves.
With massive 80% tax rates, that's what the OECD calls for in Europe, for the United States, global minimalization of taxes.
That if we give in to this, we'll have almost no services and nothing but taxes.
That's the equation of the debt money system and what the new order does.
And so, their entire program is in trouble.
Not just a month ago, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Man, that's already a month ago.
At the CFR saying for the first time the whole world is awake to world government.
And that we're in trouble.
I mean, he's having to ring the alarm.
Battle stations!
Battle stations!
We've sustained serious hits!
The enemy is on us!
Emergency battle stations!
Battle stations!
I mean, uh, we are in deep danger!
We could be completely destroyed!
We need the maximum effort from our new order operatives everywhere!
I mean, they've now had you get to the point of being honest, and you watch the CFR people, they're all gulping, all... What?
So right now, the destiny of the world, or the next phase of our history, is being decided.
And I want to go to Bob Chapman of the International Forecaster, one of the best analysts we've got, one of the best track records of prediction, because Gerald Solente says he believes we will collapse in the next six months.
He says Europe's going to collapse, we're going to collapse the next six.
I haven't really seen Gerald be wrong, and that's probably the boldest statement I've ever heard out of him.
Man, I hope that's not the case, and I hope it isn't self-fulfilling either.
Again, what's been put in motion is so much bigger than me or Gerald or Bob or Ron Paul that, you know, we would kid ourselves saying that a pronouncement like that could trigger it.
Clearly all that is in train, but I want to get Bob Chapman's view on what Salente said here two days ago and how the media has shifted from saying, it's a wonderful economy, everything's fine, to basically head for the hills, abandon ship, it's over, you know, every man for himself.
Yeah, for those that don't know, the bailouts go out to the bankers to bail them out, and then they loan our money back to us.
And of course, those are Cook numbers that 80% or more of England wants out of the Euro, because they were never allowed to have a vote on being brought into it, even though they're not officially in it.
It's way over 63% of the Germans that are mad.
We know those are even cooked polls.
It's probably more like 85% from the numbers I've seen.
But regardless, I mean, as Zbigniew Brzezinski said, the true nature of the world system is now becoming evident.
So, yes, the sovereign debt problem is going to continue.
There's 20 countries which are on the edge and Iceland, for all intents and purposes, is under.
And so, that's an underlying deflationary factor.
During the past 14 months, Europe, UK, United States have reduced their money in credit from a plus 18% on average, down to about a minus 5.9% at least in the United States.
So they all did the same thing at the same time.
So obviously it was coordinated.
And, except for bailing banks out, Very little money has gone anywhere except for the stimulus plans that were put in place in many of the countries involved in Europe and England and the United States.
Now, the effect of these stimulus plans is wearing off.
Now, the big question is, and this comes back to what Gerald had to say in his projection, it all depends on which way they go.
If they come back in, And they say, oh my goodness gracious, we must have another $800 billion in stimulus.
And the Fed has to create another $1.5 trillion so that we can go sideways for another year, a year and a half.
If they do that, then you're not going to get a collapse before the end of the year.
You're going to get it in about a year, maybe a year and a half.
If they don't do that, then I think That what'll happen in the European Union is that one by one, these countries will fall away from the Euro that are in trouble.
We know who they are, Ireland, Italy, Portugal, Greece, and Spain.
And they'll just drop out, and they'll go back to their own currencies.
Now, how true that is, I don't know, but, you know, these people are subsistence... Well, why are a lot of the British elites telling, uh, the, uh, Greeks to pull out in the default?
But anyway... But there's no way to bail it... I mean, there's no way to not default.
I mean, technically, these countries can pay the trillions up to the bankers on the magic derivatives they were sold.
But at the end of the day, still, that just devalues the euro and causes inflation.
And so either way, it wrecks the economy.
pull out of it.
And like Ron Paul has said, we don't really owe this money to the bankers.
They're the crooks.
Iceland said no.
Then the books were looked at.
But it turned out almost 90% of the money that the bankers wanted was money they owed from bets they had made.
And so, I mean, now I see it in the German news, the French news, the British news, they're announcing we're taking your Social Security, we're cutting it, we're cutting your pensions, we're raising your taxes.
And of course, Europe isn't going to go along with this so these private bankers can get hundreds of billions of dollars in bonuses.
I mean, this is really, and I think that's why Bilderberg is so scared, Bob, and I'm really worried about what Bilderberg's going to do.
I think they're going to start World War III.
I think before the collapse comes, they're going to launch World War III.
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In fact, just give me a fresh phone list, Genesis, go through them, make sure everybody's there, and also on my phone system, and I'll try to just rattle through a bunch of calls in the next segment, because I want to hear from you on the oil spill, the economy, all of it.
Bob, you heard my question going to break, but to recap it for those that joined us, Those are just tuned in.
Short-term collapse versus long-term collapse.
Any way you slice it, there's no way out.
This plane's going down.
The question is, do we get our landing gear down?
And as Dr. Paul Greg Roberts, former head of the Treasury, said, there's probably no way to even get the landing gear down.
Well, I think it all depends on what they do with the money supply in Europe, England, the United States, and the creation of
Liquidity and if they continue to do what they are, which is tightening, we will shortly go into a deflationary depression, which means interest rates will probably rise in the real market because everything that is in the bond market will become somewhat suspect and the stock market will go down.
I think there's a good chance before the year is out, a very good chance that 6,650 on the Dow Jones Industrial Average can be tested.
I think we're around 10-2 right now.
And that was the low that we experienced a year ago in March.
And incidentally, we called that at 6,600 and we're very proud of that.
And then again, that could break and move down to 4,000.
And I think eventually next year is going to be a horrible year.
And I think next year, the market could get down to the 28 to 3,200 area on the Dow.
And Richard Russell's calling for 1,000, so I feel very conservative.
And so that sort of goes along with what Gerald had to say.
It's just that my timing, I just don't know what it is until they commit themselves.
And we'll find that out over the next month or two.
And if they're looking to have a deflationary depression, this is the spot to do it.
And if it works for them, if they can put all their programs in place.
I mean, let's go back to 19 months ago with the October 2008 banker takeover, known as the banker bailout bill, that was supposedly for subprime mortgages.
And then the October 4th, the day after they passed it, Paulson said, I'm not going to tell you where we're spending it.
None of it's going to mortgages.
If we go back then, they used psychological terrorism to drive the market down almost 1,000 points to create fear to get their agenda through.
And so we've seen that their signifying that we're really in a depression causes it to deepen because of the destruction of confidence.
And so I see them trying to prop it up into the election.
And then into the new year, and I tend to disagree with Gerald a little bit, I think he's right overall, I believe they're going to announce, if I had to do a dead reckoning, this isn't a prediction, just if I had to put a date on it, I would imagine that by April of next year, they're going to start admitting we're in a depression.
I think that if they're not going to do the stimulus that I said that they would have to do, They're then going to have to admit it's a double-dip recession, as they would call it, when in fact it's a continuation of a still inflationary depression until the system starts to really break down, and that would be April of next year that you're talking about, and that would take the market down to the levels that I and others have talked about.
They're still avoiding it.
I think, you know, the simple way to handle this From a personal perspective is, you know, you get in your food and your filter and be ready to defend yourself and your gold and silver coins.
And the only place that you can have any safety is in gold and silver related assets.
There's no other place.
And so the formula is very simple.
And that's what you've got to do.
You've got to get out of the stock market, out of bonds.
And I just wrote an article on Wednesday.
People should start phasing out of They're IRAs and other vehicles that are retirement vehicles, if they can.
This year, next year and the year after, a lot of people who I've talked to are saying, no, I'm going to do it all right now.
And that's fine.
It's just that the tax hit.
Is bigger this year to be paid in April than it might be otherwise.
And of course the loss in confidence because people are being forced to lose confidence and gold going up is accelerating this and even the New York Times two days ago admitted that gold going up is really putting the central banks in a bad place showing that all their paper just can't compete with the real metal.
That's right.
All right, Bob, let's take calls from a bunch of people when we get back, and I'll get into some other issues with Bob Chapman.
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Bob, I was ranting about the economy.
Any other points you want to add about where the economy is going before we go to some phone calls?
We just don't know the regularity or irregularity of how it's going to happen.
But it's going to be an end result.
And it's just too hard to call.
We all know the direction, and so anybody who makes a prediction shouldn't be held too hard to it, like Gerald, because if it doesn't happen that way, because it's so, so hard to call.
Yes sir, we talked about this over a decade ago and we're called Kooks.
There are thousands of different permutations and different types of plastic.
They chose one family of plastics that actually even cost more than a lot of the other formulas made out of petroleum that leaks and leeches high levels of estrogen mimicker.
And so our boys are feminized and have smaller genitals.
They've known this for 50 years.
And women are hyper-feminized.
And so a woman's breast at 30 or the breast of a 70-year-old, that's why so many women are, biologically, they don't look like the breast of a 70-year-old, but the hormonal exchanges have worn the cell DNA out to the point of a 70-year-old.
And so, you know, your 8-year-old goes into puberty when she's a girl, and your boy looks like a girl and acts like a girl, because they are a girl.
I mean, you can feed estrogen to a bull, and it'll act like a cow.
In fact, it'll even go present itself to another bull to be mounted.
Because it's got a similar brain.
And so yes, and that's one reason you can't really blame a lot of these people that are gay.
People love to hate them and say kill them and stuff.
I think it's a destructive lifestyle, but I don't hate these people.
But the reason there's so many gay people now is because it's a chemical warfare operation.
I have the government documents where they said they're going to encourage homosexuality with chemicals so that people don't have children.
Well, if you give estrogen to a bull, Long enough, it'll start going over and basically presenting itself to bulls.
I've read the studies on this and talked to the vets.
I actually worked for a large animal vet a few summers.
And it's just a fact.
And so we wonder why men look like women and why women are all jacked up and going into puberty, some of them at age five now.
And when they go into the doctor, Uh, to, uh, you know, because they're five-year-olds having a period, some as young as three, the doctor, uh, comes to them, uh, and says, I'm gonna give you other hormones to suppress that, not, hey, let's stop drinking GMO growth hormone milk, which has been linked to it.
Hey, let's stop drinking out of estrogen mimicking containers.
And again, I, I even catch myself, Bob, drinking out of these estrogen, uh, mimickers, uh, because it's everywhere.
I mean, take this.
I don't know, but I should check.
This is probably lined with the type of plastic that has it.
But I still grabbed this off the shelf this morning, even though it says it's organic.
That's not enough.
In fact, let me... Guys, give me a knife so I can tear into this.
Let's see if it's lined with it.
In fact, they'll probably say if it's lined with it inside the plastic packaging.
Oh, I wonder if this spring water, natural lime flavor I'm drinking.
I know full well HEB's putting fluoride in this.
Why am I drinking this?
I know full well these kettle chips say that they don't have MSG, but they've got the yeast extract thing that says it's MSG.
But, Mike, I have a question for Bob, but I did want to mention that Why aren't the Black Minds Parish District Attorney Charles Belay pressing charges?
Why isn't St.
Bernard Parish President Craig Tappera Jr.
pressing charges?
Why isn't Hancock County Mississippi Sheriff Steve Garber pressing charges?
Why isn't Harrison County Sheriff Mississippi Yeah, why did the state governors immediately say, we're gonna go, you know, start blocking the estuaries?
No, they said, the feds won't let us!
It's like saying, the feds won't, hold on, I didn't get a call from the government saying I could breathe.
I'm gonna hold my breath.
We'll be back after this break with Terry and we'll see if I can hold my breath.
We'll see.
Give the government calls on this phone by then to tell me I'm allowed to breathe.
Okay?
Because if I'm going to breathe, I have to have government permission because government is God.
And so, I'm going to start holding my breath now.
We'll see when we get back in three minutes if I can do it and if the government calls and gives me permission.
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There's probably 300, 400 counties in those states or more where they haven't filed charges.
If it does show neglect by BP to not come in when they had the manpower and blocked the estuaries, that's a problem.
But the bigger issue is Our daddy, President Hussein Beresetaro, the Kenyan-Indonesian citizen, he wants this to be as bad as possible so he can pass a bunch of legislation.
He wouldn't let those states fix the problem.
But then it falls back on the states.
I mean, if my neighbor shows up at my house and says, you're not allowed to breathe unless I give you permission, and then I go and suffocate myself with a plastic bag, I'm a mental patient.
So, the states need to stop, you know, we're mad at you, federal government, you wouldn't let a state fix it!
Why are they letting the Indonesian citizen tell us what to do?
Terry?
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I would say it's because the Indonesian and his buddies at Goldman Sachs are printing their paychecks.
And they want their pay, and every good Nazi followed his orders for his paycheck.
Bob Chapman, your take on the states, for 40-plus days, whining, saying the feds won't let them fix it, and the military makes them count booms for a week and then never puts them out.
Since when do the feds run everything on the planet Earth?
Because why did Goldman Sachs sell 44% of their BP stock three weeks before the incident happened.
Why did they short the drill equipment in the Gulf?
And why did the president of BP sell one-third of his holdings at the same time Goldman Sachs did?
And I think he sold it through Goldman.
And we don't have any information, but it stands to reason that they both may have bought derivatives that are short against the box to freeze their positions so that they wouldn't lose any further money.
And it turns out Goldman Sachs, who literally, if somebody slips on a banana peel nine times out of the ten, Goldman Sachs laid it there.
I mean, every country they're imploding, they're always running.
Brazil, Argentina, Greece, I mean, you name it.
Iceland, they put their people in government and then steal everything.
And it turns out the chairman of BP was the co-chairman until the week before of BP.
I mean, this is really getting suspicious, Bob.
And then, the fact that the feds wouldn't let the states... I mean, the states were there with their own booms, about to put them in front of the rivers and estuaries, which can really cause the damage if that oil gets up in there.
Uh, they have fissures, uh, in different areas in the same general region that evidently have been caused by what went on in the well that, well, essentially they blew up.
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Well, they got 70-something affiliates, so that's really great joining us.
They're libertarians, and I was on their show, and I was going to have them on about immigration and the The ultra-uber-libertarian view, let's just have open borders, the problem is you put in purely libertarian policies while a socialist system is still in place, or a fascist system, and that's the quickest way to slit your throat.
Seven ways from Sunday.
So we'll be discussing that with them coming up here.
Going back to Bob Chapman, though.
We've got the Coast Guard hearing reports, and that's actually in my stack from three days ago.
A caller called in, though, and brought it up, and I'm like, oh my gosh, I meant to cover that, because here I am at home, reading this and freaking out, where they said, we've never put a pipe this big on.
We've never attached a bigger pipe to a smaller pipe.
The Halliburton people were upset, saying this is going to blow up.
The other engineers, the operators of the rig were upset.
There were arguments, two weeks of actual screaming and yelling, and that It appears that BP, and this is on record, ordered them to do things that have never been done, that they wouldn't do with a shallow, low-pressure well, and that everyone basically on the floating rig We're just waiting for doom and we're sure doom was coming and that's the headline.
I can't actually quote.
You guys reprint it because I thought it was in my stack.
It was an Atlantic Monthly headline a couple days ago because it was quoting the head of the rig as screaming at the VP executive saying The rig is now on fire.
I hope you're effing happy.
And I don't normally say the A-S-S word or the F word here.
The president's using it.
Oil rig people are using it.
It's like in a court.
I'm just telling you what was said.
And they're screaming at the BP people because whatever they were told to do, they just said, that's going to blow up!
So, is it pure hubris by BP, believing they're God because the CEO is good at playing golf, he thought he could tell the engineers what to do, or did they know giving that order would cause this, and then why?
In closing, Bob Chapman, why would they want to run this false flag?
They know what they're doing, and Katie barred the door, because so they can maintain control of their financial fraud and gain more control, they are going to pull the stops out.
And if Israel has to make a boneheaded move as a distraction for these people, Israel will follow orders.
And if BP's got to blow an oil rig sky high by giving people orders they know is going to cause a blowout, Uh, probably bigger than they thought, though, is the word.
Uh, you know, I love Lindsey Williams, but he says that the elite had a Ouija board and they were able to know this was going to happen.
That's why they pulled out.
No, it's an inside job.
That's what all the evidence points at.
And, uh, it's just getting more and more crazy from here.
Bob, I hope we're here.
Still here next week.
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My wife's here today, and I'm acting goofy for her, I guess.
That's why she likes me.
No, but seriously, ladies and gentlemen, getting back to serious issues, he did a whole thing demonizing it, saying it's an anti-British thing and that the Tea Partiers are delusional and believe they're fighting redcoats.
No, it's getting back to our revolutionary history against big government and big governments that are 4,000 or 5,000 miles away telling us what we can and can't do, like Obama telling these governors in Florida, Louisiana, Mississippi that they couldn't go block the oil themselves and then the feds wouldn't come block it.
That's what we're trying to get back to.
That's what we want as a society.
That's what the Gadsden flag and the porcupine symbolize.
It means don't walk on me.
Don't stomp on me.
I don't want to lick your boots.
I don't think government made the sun rise and the grass grow.
I'm sorry.
I don't want to call you an authority or an official.
I want to call you a public servant.
Alright, we're going to go over some of their websites, but they are here with us today, and they have a talk show on the evenings on the GCN Radio Network, and I originally had them coming on.
Because they said, we'd like to talk to you in the future about your views on immigration.
Because we're on about other subjects when I was on their show, and I said, why don't you come on my show and talk about it?
And, you know, they're trying to sell us on a world where we're not allowed to ride a bike because we might fall off and skin our elbow.
Or we're not allowed to, you know, this girl, 16, of course many of our founding fathers were 23, 24.
People in the olden days were adults when they were 13, 14.
What do you say about this young girl whose boat went missing yesterday, but now they found her with the beacon, and now the media is saying, oh my God, we can't let, you know, teenagers rock climb, we can't let them get on a sailboat.
I mean, my view is full-grown sailors lose their lives.
If we can ban a 16-year-old who's a young lady but an adult, then we can ban a 50-year-old man.
unidentified
Well, it's not like the media didn't know that this girl was going on her trip.
I remember hearing an interview on NPR a couple of months ago about this brave young lass that will be sailing her boat around the world.
And what a beacon for femininity and youth that she was.
And now that she had a problem because storms come up in the open ocean.
That, you know, it's a bad thing, but what concerns me most is I hear that there are three ships steaming towards her now, and I imagine they're probably already there.
And I guess they're actually probably dieseling, but that was the term they used.
How much are we paying as taxpayers for this gal to be rescued?
It seems to me she should be, she and her entourage are the ones that should be paying for it.
With this bureaucracy, couldn't even figure out how to save her.
No, it's fishing trawlers that they looked on the GPS and found the closest ones.
But I agree.
I think the family, who does like publicity, I mean, personally, I wouldn't send my 16-year-old daughter out in the Atlantic Ocean by herself.
When she's 18 and she wants to commit suicide, she could.
I mean, it's dangerous, much less a circumnavigation of the globe.
Her brother got chased by pirates in the same area when he was 17, and so it is asking for it.
But I don't want to lose my liberty, so if they want to go do this, more power to them.
And I think it's bold, and I think it's okay for her to get rescued, but I agree, if any taxpayer money goes into this, Mommy and Daddy need to fit the bill.
Okay, go ahead and tell us your views on immigration, men.
Ian and Mark.
unidentified
Mark, do you want to start?
Sure.
What our belief is, is that free people should be able to cross borders of free countries freely.
And there are certainly some issues that That should be resolved and it may very well be that allowing free people to do that would resolve those issues.
Some of those issues are things like welfare.
I don't think that anybody should be required to pay for anybody else's child to be sent to school, to pay for their medical conditions, to pay for their food.
Those are the jobs of charities and mutual aid societies.
I don't think that you should be required to send kids to school or to pay for their hospital bills or hospitals should be required to cover their medical bills and therefore your insurance rates and your hospital bills go up.
But I do think that people should be allowed to come to this country and work for a better life as so many of our forefathers did.
I mean, it's a country of immigrants and in the past, even though there have been immigration laws since the late 19th century, before that they didn't have them.
But see, I agree with you, but here's the problem.
because there were only a couple of ports of call that they actually had immigration officers at.
So people would just show up at different places, walk across the border, and nobody ever asked for their papers.
If you have a government that is, A, saying, come here, have a baby, everything's paid for, And by the way, our Ford Foundation schools are going to teach you that this belongs to Mexico and America's evil.
And we're going to use you as a political weapon to take Alex Jones' private property and his guns, which 90 plus percent of these people end up voting for in every statistic we've got.
Then I can't say, oh, I'm a big happy libertarian.
Let's have hundreds of millions more from all over the world come here and here, raise my taxes, everything's free.
Oh, and here's my guns because you voted for it.
It is suicide to have open borders because we don't have a libertarian free state.
I understand in the great free state there would be no state.
There would just be free individuals of the world figuring it out in a free market.
The problem is I got Goldman Sachs running my government using it for corporate welfare to literally suck every drop of blood.
unidentified
You're right.
Alex, you're right.
I mean, the first thing that you said there was that you mentioned that it's the government and it's the fact that people believe in government, that they believe that it's appropriate to use aggressive force against their neighbors to either make them behave in the way they want them to behave or to stop doing the things that they don't like them to do.
It's this belief in coercion and in government that continues to perpetuate this system where the government is used as a tool Here's an example.
If my neighbors are yelling and screaming and their dog keeps barking, I'm not going to call the cops on them.
I'm going to go knock on their door.
And then, of course, if they try to assault me, then I'll probably try to call the police, because this isn't 10,000 B.C., and if I beat the daylights out of the guy or fight back, I'm going to be the one going to prison.
Do you guys believe in zero government?
Because the founders said we needed a government to protect us from another government.
Because as long as you've got other governments, the minute we get rid of a government, they're going to come over here with their bigger government and make us their slaves.
unidentified
Less government.
And when we get to less government, I believe in less government than that.
And when we get to less government than that, I believe in less government than that.
I believe that there should be voluntary interactions between individuals as much as possible.
And I think what we have today is not an immigration problem, but a government problem.
And I hesitate, I doubt very seriously that you can use the government to solve a government problem.
No way.
It's just not going to work.
The only thing you can get is a police state where they're knocking on our doors, demanding to see our Mexicans that we've got in the backyard.
A war on immigration would be the same as a war on drugs has been.
You get more drugs, you get more dangerous drugs, you get violence, you get the black market.
They're going to selectively enforce, and when they do arrest illegals, they're going to take them and give them green cards and legalize them.
unidentified
I mean, that's what they've been caught doing already.
Alex, I hesitate to even use that term, illegals, because I think the connotation there is that these are people, we're calling them illegals because they've broken some arbitrary diktat laid down by some unaccountable bureaucrats in Washington, D.C., and I can proudly say that I have broken plenty of their diktats, and I don't follow their rules, and so I would also be an illegal by that definition.
It's a law of human tribal nature that we got Mexico that's lost wars with the U.S., that's fully collapsed under their government.
With 100 plus million people, 30 plus million that are here right now.
And again, we go back to this thing of we still have a government, we have all this welfare, we have all this in place, and then we have this structure.
They are illegal.
If you try to go down to Mexico and live however you want, and I mean, Ian, why don't you get with a woman and go down there and ask for a free baby and free health care?
You're going to get your butt thrown in prison.
I mean, do you know the illegal aliens in Mexico?
My point is, my point is you can't lower the borders until you have that free state.
unidentified
Well, I don't think that what the Mexican government does has anything to do with what, you know, free people do.
Yeah, but you can't... Listen, if you've got a big government sitting right next to you, and then you lower your borders to it, They're gonna come in and get all the welfare, which you say you're against.
I mean, I'm talking about reality.
How about what's gonna happen?
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How this works, because they're saying, yes, we can't give all these people free welfare, but I can't even call them illegal because there can't even be laws.
And real quick, if I could, you keep using a term that really, it gets to me.
It's we.
And I am not the government, and so I try my best, and sometimes I'll use this term, and I try to catch myself on it, and Mark and I try to catch each other using it, because we've been indoctrinated.
To speak in this collectivistic speak.
And we are not the government.
They are the government.
And they are going to impose certain things on us.
And the people that are out there calling for immigration control are calling for the government to control other people.
And they're going to have... But that is one of the things the founding fathers said the federal government's supposed to do.
And listen!
I mean, the globalists want to get rid of my common culture as an American, which means Second Amendment, liberty, freedom.
And so, of course the globalists want to get rid of my culture and don't want me to say, we Americans.
And then they want to sell it with the globalism.
unidentified
Let me tell you, Alex, we don't have currently in our society anywhere near the most amount of immigrants, first generation immigrants that we've had in the past.
So we're not anywhere near the idea of shaking the foundations of our culture.
Benjamin Franklin said the same thing about the The German immigrants in Pennsylvania back in the 18th century.
So, I mean, these ideas are nothing new.
America is a conglomeration of a bunch of immigrants' cultures put together.
And it, I believe, is better for it.
It is the superior culture on the planet, I think, as a result.
And it's the government that's the problem, and Mark doesn't speak for me when he answered his question about less government, less government.
That may be the way we get to no coercive government, but I myself, and I'm going to make it straight out here, I am not in favor of coercion between human beings, between peaceful people.
And so it's getting people coercion that my states are going bankrupt.
One of the biggest things is the fact of the illegal aliens and all the welfare.
And so I guess I've just but that coercion is OK.
I've got it.
unidentified
No, it's never OK.
You're going to get coercion whether you try to put a police state on the border to stop the Mexicans from coming north because we don't care about the Canadians coming south, by the way.
If you if you try to stop the flow of there aren't that many Canadians coming south.
unidentified
Sure, but if you try to stop the flow, you still get the coercion, you still get the tax dollars, but you focus them on bureaucrats, government agents with guns.
What are they going to do with those government agents with guns?
I'm going to tell you this, Ian and Mark, here's the deal.
Austin police have told me to my face, and I've seen it in the news, that illegal aliens are God and I am a slave.
So, I'm telling you, the illegal aliens are the client of the government, the big, wicked, evil government, loves the open borders.
But I'm supposed to go, I'm a libertarian!
And the illegals are like, take his guns!
I mean, you know, I mean, that's how they're voting!
You're not supposed to go, you know what, here's my gun, here's my gun.
unidentified
You're putting them all into one group and you're collectivizing.
I'm not surprised that people from Mexico vote for Democrats rather than Republicans, because Republicans have certainly made them feel less welcome than Democrats have.
I don't vote for either, but I understand how they feel.
I think there are plenty of them who are outside the system entirely and they have no interest in the government, just like most Americans don't have any interest in voting.
Yes, I think that's an important factor that needs to be touched on here because I think that what you said earlier, I like a lot of what you said, you know, freedom if we could have some sort of a society where there was a very small government or no government where people are Well, I'm going to be honest with you.
It's like Tony Montana said in Scarface.
He said, are you a communist?
You want a Shavano in every corner telling you what to eat, what to wear, what to say, where you can go, where you can go?
You want a shivano in every corner telling you what to eat, what to wear, what to say, where you can go, where you can go?" You know, I want my human rights, just like the President Jimmy Cotta says.
And my issue with all the people south of the border is, that's mostly the people coming in, the illegals, oh, thought crime again, is that they are voting for big government.
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We got Ian and Mark here, and I want everybody to sing Kumbaya, and humans are humans, and humans want freedom.
The issue is the globalists, the statists, the collectivists, you know, the main generals of the New World Order.
I'm looking at their battle plan.
I'm looking at the holodeck rejection of the...
of the individuals and people who want private property and how the enemy's attacking us and worldwide it's overrun Europe's borders overrun other borders whatever first world nation or if it's a poor nation overrun it with the next door neighbor who's even more poor to create debt to the bankers and so I just go back to this is a realist no country has ever survived With completely open borders.
And I understand, you know, the whole Star Trek, Star League, we're all going to be libertarians in galactic deep space flying around together.
We open the borders now, because that's the libertarian thing to do, and then maybe we'll get rid of the welfare?
unidentified
Oh, I don't see how the welfare system can continue to support an increasing burden upon it.
I think the idea here that because we had a little welfare in the 60s and we have more welfare now, that we'll have lots more in the future, Is saying that because I was 5 feet tall when I was 10, that I'll be 20 feet tall when I'm 40, is just, it's not accurate.
The system, the United States government is essentially bankrupt.
It is on its very last wheel, squeaking along.
And, you know, it can't support.
Its citizens cannot bear any increase in the amount, the burden of government.
So, I don't know what's going to happen with the welfare system, but it isn't going to increase dramatically.
See, and let me go back to your throwaway line, and it's a good throwaway line.
No, no, just because you were 5 feet tall when you're 10 doesn't mean you're going to be 22 feet tall when you're 20.
You might be dead when you're 20.
You might die when you're 6.
Because more often than not, when governments implode from too much taxes and too much regulation, Instead, they go into a hardcore tyranny and Mao Zedong kills 40 to 60 to 80, depending on the statistics.
The Chinese say 84 million people.
Or Joe Stalin goes hog wild or pull pot.
And so, statistically, very rarely do we have a 1776 where it goes in a good direction.
It normally goes in a bad direction.
So, historically, when we implode here very soon and go into cardiac arrest, the maggots of big government are going to actually consume everything.
unidentified
Well, I don't think that you're going to... By the way, that's Mark over there.
Yeah, it was me that made that statement.
I don't think you're going to see that in America.
There are as many guns in this country as there are people, and I just... You're not talking about Cambodia where people are trying to scratch a living out of the dusty earth.
You're talking about a relatively wealthy nation, one of the wealthiest nations the world has ever seen, and its citizens are armed and have at least a modicum of the understanding of the ideas of liberty.
Also, Alex, the idea that the country should survive, I think, is fallacious anyway.
I mean, who really wants the federal government?
They can have it!
Right, I want nothing to do with the federal government.
I think that as far as getting toward a smaller government slash free society, secession is going to be a very important step.
So if the federal government doesn't implode within the next few years, hopefully some state government people will say, we've had enough, we're done with this, we're out of here, and then maybe that'll begin an avalanche of other people seceding.
Generally in history when you have secession movements funded by the British twice in our history, it ends up being a move to break the country up to then bring those smaller pieces into a larger imperial union later.
unidentified
What really all this depends on is, in my opinion, a paradigm shift.
And that paradigm shift is to shift away from the idea of supporting coercive governments.
To that end, here at the upcoming Porcupine Freedom Festival in two weeks in Northern New New Hampshire, there's going to be a mass signing of a declaration of independence, basically, from people basically saying, look, we don't want anything else to do with federal government.
We don't want anything to do with the New Hampshire government.
And we just want to live like free people.
And that's what we're going to do.
So you bring people like that together who have that mindset, that liberty mindset, you bring them together and the state will wither away eventually because it just simply the idea will wither away.
Yeah, Karl Marx believed that the state would wither away after growing it to the point that it encompassed everything.
And I think we're going in the opposite direction of that, Alex.
Yeah, they just legalized knives here in New Hampshire.
So things are going in the right direction, even with the very initial phases of the Free State Project going on.
And that comes back to what I was saying earlier about obedience.
There's a civil disobedience and non-cooperation movement going on up here that I've never seen before in the Liberty Movement.
The Liberty Movement historically has always He's just been, OK, we're going to run some candidates once every two years and four years, get 3% and then come back and run some more candidates.
But we actually have people up here who are saying no more.
Oh yeah, the libertarian, mainline libertarian movement, when they pick Bob Barr, who is a patriot on the surface, but when you really look at his votes, Mr. CIA, I mean, that is a joke.
unidentified
Yeah, well that's why I actually resigned publicly from the Libertarian Party before they chose Bob Barr, because I'd seen them going in a really negative direction for a long time.
And so one of the reasons why the Free State Project was so exciting to me when I first heard about it, was because I knew the Libertarian Party wasn't getting any traction.
And I knew that it had to be more than just voting.
If voting changed anything, they wouldn't allow it.
Clearly, you know this.
I mean, you talk about the left-right paradigm all the time, and I know that you've been long out of that.
But now I think we need to encourage people to get out of the government paradigm, the idea that there's some sort of benefit that can come from using coercive violence over other people.
And I appreciate you guys enlightening me or attempting to enlighten me on the deeper nuances of all this, but I've really looked at the angles myself, personally, and if I can use state governments as a step to block the federal government that's been Colonized by offshore mercantile corporate interests that are bigger than any government in the aggregate, you know, in the sum total.
If I can, I mean, I'm in a desperate move here just to block total enslavement.
So if I can use state governments, their 9th and 10th Amendment powers...
Sure.
To sabotage the federal takeover and to then get some fortresses built at the state level in people's minds to then demonstrate liberty and then move against the federal government.
We can abolish it or whatever we choose at that time.
unidentified
See, that's the difference in mindset.
I don't want to move against them or anything like that.
I just want to live like a free person and ignore them.
They're moving against the states and federalizing them.
So when I say move against them, I mean take back the just powers of the states reserved to the people and to move against the tyrannical behavior of the feds to block their takeover.
See, there's a takeover.
The government is getting ready to stage nuke attacks.
Very soon.
I see that.
unidentified
Well, they've been taken over.
I mean, the states have been beholden to the federal government.
I'm actually trying to galvanize people into a movement of liberty.
For smaller government, freedom, self-defense, anti-New World Order, in a desperate attempt just to stop the New World Order from completely taking over.
unidentified
Admittedly, I am for the idea that states are able to use their powers the way they wish.
So in the case of Arizona, I'm kind of torn.
I like that the state is saying that we're not waiting for the federal government on this issue.
However, I dislike what they've chosen to do that, the issue they've chosen to do that on.
And I think that it's ultimately not going to work because California essentially says The immigrants, come on in, and I guess they're giving them welfare.
I don't know exactly what's going on in California precisely, but I do know that they're very friendly.
I know, I don't want anything to do with California.
That's why I agree with you, Alex.
I mean, if people can use the state government to separate themselves from the federal government, I'm fully in favor of that.
I'm not in favor of secession if it's been like it has in Texas, where the media gives attention to some guy living in a cabin who declares himself president because his cousins voted him in.
I mean, if we had the legislature move for secession, then I would gauge, as a citizen of Texas, whether or not I thought this leadership was good.
But sometimes, in a secession, you end up getting something even worse Uh, and so again, I mean, it's, it's all... That's because it's about the paradigm shift here, and that's about the mindset that these are leaders.
unidentified
Politicians aren't my leaders.
Not one of them has ever been, not one of them will ever be.
And so if we get people together who are of that mindset, that independent, freedom-oriented mindset, bring them together to the same place, that gives them a level of influence they've never had before.
Because right now, liberty lovers are distributed.
They're all the over the place but they're not very many of them and there is you know only one or two here and there and it's rare that they encounter other people who appreciate freedom so bringing those people together will allow for the kind of secession that is peaceful and that is liberty oriented let me bring this up to you because i mean on the same subject of immigration it integrates into that um i i don't have a chance to I've watched the videos and I think there's some really great questions.
time and always find it to be informative when you're covering the news.
But I have gotten that you guys don't think 9-11 is an inside job, right?
unidentified
I don't have an opinion.
I've watched the videos and I think there's some really great questions.
I mean, the Building 7 thing is like a big question mark, right?
But what I focus on is moving forward because I don't want to take any side of it.
Okay, what do free individuals do then about patented viruses that can be sprayed on you or put on your skin that go in and create basically lobotomies, a selective lobotomy in key areas of your brain to turn you into an emotionalist drone?
Because it's being looked at.
Buy DARPA to just fly over every city and spray us, and then we'll just be drones that go get on trucks and go to the incinerators.
See, you guys are talking about free state projects, and I realize that the Globalons is basically what I call them.
You know, these global eugenics mass murderers.
They've decided that they want to kill everybody.
unidentified
It doesn't scare me, Alex.
If they spray me, or if they spray you, what are we going to do about it, Alex?
All we're going to be is mindless automatons, and we won't care.
It's the government education, the indoctrination system that really... Well, sure, it's a complete cocktail overlay.
Point blank, I've got the government documents where they said we're going to put fluoride in the water to brain damage them.
unidentified
It's really a matter of an approach, Alex.
One of the big differences, I think, between our shows is that we approach, you know, we talk about the police state stuff like you do, but we approach things from, you know, what can we do now to achieve liberty in our lifetime?
I can explain to people that the scientific dictatorship running things is poisoning them.
And if you can get somebody to wake up to that, I mean because we can talk about who the most radical libertarian is and who the most awesome, you know, I'm so anarchist I believe humans shouldn't even talk to each other.
unidentified
There's no doubt you've done a great job of waking people up and the question is what do they do once they've woken up?
And my answer to that is stop going along with it.
That's what the state is and that's why it's so important to get the idea that it's good to be in control of the state or that the state can do good things.
I agree with you that the mode of Gandhi saying no in many different ways every day is one of the surest ways to stop these people.
We want to stop globalization, stop buying foreign goods like the Indians did to the British.
So I agree with you there and I'm not saying you're wrong.
I'm simply stating that it's so far past that.
It's so, I mean, it's so diabolical that people need to really come to grips with how serious this is.
But where did Obama say that A and B?
Can you play the whole clip again?
unidentified
Okay, here it is.
I don't know where it came from, but I'm sure if you... I'm sure if you look... It's on YouTube, and I'm sure if you look up the exact quote, you'll find it.
You've got one of the best teams out there for research?
And whenever you read globalist documents that's all they talk about.
We have the monopoly of violence.
And that's why they hate it that we're armed.
unidentified
Sure.
You'll get no disagreement from me, Alex.
It's just a matter of let's get people who are excited about liberty to come up to New Hampshire and join the free... I mean, if you understand what liberty means, and that is that people should be free to live their lives how they want so long as they don't harm anybody else, you're the kind of person that would be great up here in New Hampshire to get active for freedom.
We've had amazing success with free staters, people who moved here for the Free State Project, getting elected.
It's an election year again here this year.
There are, I think, dozens of people running this time because now more More people are here than have ever been before.
Well, I mean, I assure you, if you've got a bunch of individuals, there are going to be within that system groups of warlords and thugs that are going to come rob your butt.
unidentified
Well, Alex, I don't know how things were in the 18th century, but I think that we probably did need a more centralized government in the age where people rode horses.
Finish when we come back, because the city of Austin is a group of criminal warlords robbing everyone.
And so we would be better with no government in Austin compared to the criminals we have robbing everything and the public drinking fluoride, sucking their thumb.
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I'll be back Sunday, ladies and gentlemen, with Congressman Ron Paul.
4 to 6 p.m.
is the abbreviated Sunday transmission.
Got another article of it, PrisonPlanet.com.
Oberman slams Tea Party Senate candidate for voting against water fluoridation.
I'll be back next week as well, and I promise I'm going to tell my producers right now, I'm going to leave a few days open next week with no guests.
They've been doing a great job getting a lot of good guests, but I want some days to just take your calls on the oil spill.
It's clear.
Listeners want to discuss this.
It's important.
You know, in closing with you guys, one of you, because you guys' voice accents sound similar, Mark and Ian, but one of you was trying to finish up a point before I went to break, but then I wanted to ask both of you about the oil spill.
Another indicator, another proof, just like Katrina and everything else, the government cannot and will not help you.
Any money that they end up spending will be stolen by their cronies.
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Well, that's because they're a criminal gang.
As you mentioned about Austin, it's not just Austin.
It's every city, every town, every state, every, you know, and the federal government.
They're all criminal gangs.
They're the most successful gang in a given geographic area.
That's what the government is.
And so the fear that you were talking about before, this fear of, well, what if there's no coercive government anymore?
If we get rid of the violent monopoly, then what about the other violent monopolies around the world coming in and raiding and pillaging and etc.? ?
And the answer to that is that, as Mark mentioned before, there's wide gun ownership in the United States and if you look back with Hitler and why he didn't invade Switzerland, it's because people own guns in Switzerland and they just didn't want to mess with that.
So are you even against a county where you elect a sheriff and then you tell the sheriff, you know, these are the guys we think are good deputies and aren't thugs?
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I'm I want to have competing sheriffs.
I want to have competition and protection where people can actually choose the kind of protection that they want to buy in the marketplace.
Bring competition and you get better service.
Instead of these corrupt cops, you get better service.
But see, if he's caught red-handed, I do want him to have his little neck snapped.
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No, I don't suspect that there'll be a problem with that.
I think most people feel the same way.
I think most people are against child molestation, and so the private arbitrators that would be competing for justice would essentially understand that.
So when you have competition in justice and you have competition in protection, then everything gets better because competition raises everybody up, etc.
And there's a lot of good information at book.freekeen.com.
There's a great book called The Market for Liberty from the 1970s that really gets into detail about private arbitration and market justice and things like that.
And I would recommend that your listeners and maybe you yourself, if you have the time, check that out at book.freekeen.com.
We can't conclusively prove it, or it was complete negligence because you never have people on the rigs, the managers, the engineers, cussing at BP people for two weeks in front of... There's all these witnesses in the Coast Guard hearing that they were saying, this is going to blow up, you can't order us to do this.
They should have said no, so they're still guilty as well, but the BP execs need to get in serious trouble for this.