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alex jones
Well, former Israeli Navy Captain and Mossad officer Viktor Ostrovsky is saying it is a horrible debacle that was carried out in a moronic fashion.
But I guess he's anti-Israel, because you're not allowed to criticize Israel in any way.
You know, we hear the same thing here in our government.
If you criticize anything Barack Obama does, you're anti-America.
If you criticize anything Obama does, you're a racist because he happens to be part African.
Of course, it has nothing to do with it.
This situation that happened with the flotilla being boarded is a fiasco.
Any way you slice it, I'm not anti-Israel.
I don't hate Israel.
But I don't buy into the way the media beats you over the head if you don't worship everything Israel does and calls you anti-Semitic.
That tends to make people rebel and then want to criticize Israel.
But then I also get it from the other side, who I found to be very deceptive and to exaggerate and to lie perpetually about Israel and about me!
Claiming I work for Israel and it just, I mean, it's huge on the internet.
It's as phony as a three dollar bill.
But that's just the way it is.
That's just the way it is.
And it's a cult.
The support, the unquestioning support of Israel is a cult, is a tribal cult.
And people that hate Israel, I found it's a cult.
You know, humans are similar, regardless of what religious creed or, you know, what ethnic derivation you come from.
And I quite frankly am just sick and tired of all of it, ladies and gentlemen.
We'll cover all the developments with the flotilla.
Israel's starting to soften their stance a little bit because their old ally, Turkey, had three of the six ships that were under Turkish flags that were attacked.
One of the main ships where the boarding parties were resisted, that's now not being debated, is the main bone of contention.
And the Turks are sending frigates and missile cruisers out To escort a Irish ship that has a Nobel laureate on board, an Irish flagship, and there are more ships coming.
So this is a PR disaster for Israel.
Any way they slice it, they are going to lose ground.
And that'll just cause Israel to circle the wagons even more, and get more belligerent, which is exactly what the manipulators want.
And you notice suddenly we've got crises on the Korean peninsula, and there's crises in the Mediterranean, and there's crises in Pakistan, and Afghanistan, and Iraq, and the world markets are imploding, and Iran has announced they're dumping 40 plus billion dollars of U.S. dollars on the market and buying gold bullion.
So, this looks like the start of World War I slash World War II.
Very interesting times ahead of us.
So all I can say is brace yourselves, ladies and gentlemen.
Now we have Dr. Cordy Gold, who's on one of our big affiliates out in California.
He actually, I guess, goes live in the last hour of this show.
And I was scrabbling around trying to find somebody who's pro-Israel.
To come and give that perspective.
Because it makes for good radio.
It causes people to think.
And this is not a place where we just have one view or one paradigm or one idea put out.
That's why I've had Ann Coulter on.
That's why I've had Michelle Malkin on.
Back when they were promoting FEMA camps and concentration camps and the end of the Bill of Rights, I had them on and disagreed with them.
I don't completely disagree with this Dr. Corey Gold guy.
But I do disagree with him on several fronts, and so we'll have him on for a thought-provoking discussion.
Coming up in the next hour, then, Dr. John Coleman.
I believe he's a doctor.
I'm going through his bio.
I haven't interviewed him in years.
Yeah, it's Dr. John Coleman.
He'll be coming on to talk about the Committee of 300, kind of the nexus group between the Bilderberg Group, the Prolateral Commission, and other organizations.
Then we've got Paul Joseph Watson coming on, and a reporter from Bilderberg.
It kicks off today.
So he'll be joining us.
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We are part of a New World Order.
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The New World Order really is a tool for addressing a new world of possibilities.
It means all the world under their control.
The United Nations would take over America.
The Trilateral Commission would control the world.
alex jones
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At the bottom of the hour, I'm going to go over all the latest developments dealing with the flotilla that was boarded two days ago by the Israeli Navy.
So that is coming up later in the broadcast today.
And we do have three guests joining us, actually four guests.
We have Dr. Corey Gold coming on the show to give a uh...
pro-israel perspective on what happened coming up in the next hour that should be a lively discussion a doctor john coleman was me coming on talk about the global power structure and the committee of three hundred a uh...
globalist organization that nexus is and uh...
to the builder berg group trilateral commission council on foreign relations paul joseph watson will be joining us on the builder berg group uh...
coming up via video skype for prison planet dot tv viewers not just for radio listeners And the first 30 minutes of the last hour, and then Charlie Skelton, Leningradian reporter, who's at Bilderberg this year, he'll be joining us.
They just now shut down the hotel today.
They're getting ready for it to start tomorrow.
And of course, he's there on the ground talking to other reporters who are getting intel on what's happening at this key meeting.
So he'll be joining us in the last 30 minutes today.
He'll also be popping in with more information with us.
on the radio show tomorrow.
But before I go any further, I want to get into the attack that is taking place on free speech in this nation.
There are literally more than 10 senators I've seen in the news.
I know you've seen them as well.
A whole bunch of the White House czars, like Cass Sunstein and others, the FCC, Time Magazine, the New York Times, Newsweek, I mean, you name it, they're out there promoting and pushing attacks on free speech in this nation.
And every day I see three or four, sometimes more, articles all over the news calmly reporting attacks on free speech like it's a good thing.
And of course the federal government is proposing licensing to have a blog or to be able to post anything on the web.
They are calling for state licensing, not just federal licensing and taxes.
They are calling for a, quote, kindler, gentler internet where you're not allowed to have your own domain, where everything is converted over to a hundred domains controlled by key corporations, government, and select universities.
Then you will have a sub-domain with them, but under their rules.
This is what's happening.
And they really are moving to do it.
And Australia is passing laws in their own words.
Chinese-style net censorship.
So is France, Italy, England is moving to do it.
Many governments are now providing, quote, free broadband, which the entire Internet's converting to.
But of course, you're paying for it with tax money.
It's not free.
And under those systems in England, we confirmed two years ago that PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com are not available.
I'm going to repeat that.
They are not available.
You cannot get to them.
Many universities, many high schools, many private corporations, by filtering software that lists now hundreds of thousands of websites and keywords.
Infowars.com is banned.
Prisonplanet.com is banned.
Sometimes you can get to our alternative sites that aren't in the list, like Infowars.net, WhatIsTheEndgame.com.
PrisonPlanet.tv.
People could say, well that's a corporation, well that's a university, well that's the government, let them do what they want.
You know, that's their prerogative.
No, you're paying for the universities, you're paying for the government, quote, free broadband.
It's not free.
The government doesn't offer you something free unless they want to control you.
It's poisoning the well.
That's a great way to get rid of, you know, too many wild wolves or coyotes.
You just find their waterhole and poison it.
They drink it, they die.
And they're not smart enough to know what's killing their fellow PAC members.
Or a better analogy is how do you domesticate pigs?
How do you domesticate deer?
How do you domesticate horses?
How did our ancestors domesticate oxen into what they are today?
An Angus cow.
How did they do this?
Well, you simply Start putting grain out inside a fenced area with an opening.
And then one day, you just are up in a tree by the fence, or hiding in the bushes, and at first the younger, less wily piglets come in and eat the grain, and then the mama sow comes in, and then the daddy boar comes in, and then a whole pack of hogs goes into the pen.
You slip down out of the tree, or come out of your blind, and close the gate.
And then you continue to feed them and get them trained to accept you.
Then you capture a few piglets, you take them and raise them in a pen, or even in and around your hut in the village, and now they're domesticated.
That's what's happening, the domestication of mankind.
And it's the same incremental domestication in a scientific control system over the internet.
So I wanted to cover a few articles on that front first.
This is the Hill newspaper.
Groups want FCC to police hate speech on talk radio, cable, news, networks.
And of course the FCC concurs and says they have control over the internet.
And they're calling at the White House for government messages to pop up on your website, on your blog.
And they're openly announcing that they want not just equal time on your talk station, they want to create a quote, this is one of the board members the FCC said last month, a government megaphone.
That was the quote, where hours a day to start with, of your radio station that you own, as shareholders of a radio group, or as a private owner, or a group of owners, that you will put on government programming during prime time slots, and the government will break in via the EAS system that you put in in 96, and put messages out.
I mean, this is all being pushed and promoted right now.
The Federal Communications Commission is being urged to monitor hate speech.
Yes, thought crime.
The government will monitor on talk radio and cable broadcast networks.
So not only is it you can't say the S word or the F word.
No, no, no.
Now it's you can't say the tyranny word.
You can't say the New World Order word.
You can't say the socialist word.
You can't talk bad about our Lord and Savior, Barack Hussein Obama.
A coalition of more than 30 organizations ... argue in a letter to the FCC that the internet has made it harder for the public to separate the facts from bigotry masquerading as news.
See, you better watch it!
The controlled left wants to silence the right, the controlled right.
The controlled right always is talking about silencing, we heard it from Ann Coulter and others, as well as Michelle Malkin, silencing the left.
Well, once you've gouged each other's eyes out and gagged each other, no one can speak.
No, you need to protect free speech, ladies and gentlemen, period, even if you don't agree with it.
The group's also charged that syndicated radio and cable television masquerading as news use hate as a profit model.
And of course, hate is now anything.
I mean, you know, if you say you don't want a war, you're called a hateful terrorist.
Or if you say you don't want government running your health care, You're a racist.
Of course, they're really the haters injecting race into the issue.
As traditional media have become less diverse and less competitive, they have also grown less responsible and less responsive to the communities that they are supposed to serve.
The organization wrote to the FCC.
In the same atmosphere, hate speech thrives as hate has developed as a profit model for syndicated radio and cable television programs masquerading as news.
The organization, which include Free Press.
You've got to love their Orwellian names.
It's like Bush calling it the Patriot Act when it's the opposite of the Bill of Rights and Constitution.
The opposite of an American patriot.
Maybe a Hitler-type patriot or a Stalin or Mao-type patriot of restricting free speech, but not an American patriot.
Not a Declaration of Independence.
Not a George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, John Quincy Adams-type patriot.
No, no, no.
The organizations was include Free Press.
Oh, the organization's called Free Press and they want to take your free press.
The organization was include Free Press, the Center for Media Justice.
Oh, they're for justice.
They're for sticking a cork in your mouth, you know, shutting your piehole.
The Benton Foundation and the Media Alliance also argue that the anonymity of web gives ammunition to those that would spread hatred.
And it goes on from there.
And, of course, the FCC separately is calling for this censorship.
And here's an article.
It was in the AP and Fox News.
Michigan considers law to license journalists.
Yes. No free speech unless the government licenses you.
Yes, you must get licensed from them.
A Michigan lawmaker wants to license reporters to ensure they are credible and vet them for good moral character.
That's how they started 50 years ago in New York City, gun control.
They said, oh, you get your $5 gun permit, just come in and get it, make sure you're not a criminal, and then, oh, sorry, we don't issue those anymore unless you're a local gangster who gives $30,000 to the local politician as a campaign donation.
Sorry, you don't get your free speech, no.
Senator Bruce Patterson is introducing legislation that will regulate reporters, much like the state does with hairdressers, auto mechanics, and plumbers.
That means taxing them, folks.
Patterson, who also practices constitutional law.
You gotta see, you gotta love that.
That's like, again, the Patriot Act, calling it patriotic, or this other group calling themselves the Free Press Group that wants to ban the free press.
Senator Bruce Patterson, in fact, let's get this idiot on.
Let's try to get him on.
Senator Bruce Patterson is introducing legislation that will regulate reporters, much like the state does with hairdressers, auto mechanics, and plumbers.
See how it's being pitched like it's reasonable?
Patterson, who also practices constitutional laws, says the general public is being overwhelmed with an increasing number of media outlets, traditional online and citizen-generated, and even greater amount of misinformation.
Oh, you practice constitutional law, but you're saying, butcher the First Amendment, freedom of the press.
Sorry, punk!
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Have one of our writers, Paul Watson, Steve Watson, Kurt Nemo, Aaron Dykes, or any of the other op-ed writers we've got out there, do a boil-down story of just mainstream articles taking quotes out of it where senators, congressmen, and women, White House czars, judges, FCC board members, Mainstream media.
I mean, every day I see three or four articles without looking where they're calling for restricting free speech.
We need like a 10-page article that says, yes, they're coming after your free speech.
And then just boil it down with bullet points.
Because you look at a couple of these articles, you're like, oh, those are just crackpots.
You know, that's just a few people in government.
No, they are beating a steady drum.
And just three or four years ago, government and media would never do this.
They would never openly call for restricting free speech.
Now they're doing it because old mainline establishment, especially what you call liberal media, is dying, is going down in flames, is almost gone.
I mean, the mast of the ship are now all that's sticking up, and those are rapidly receding beneath the wine-dark ocean.
Surface. And so they are racing.
And you've got this perfect storm of mainstream dying dinosaur media on its back flailing with the corrupt government run by offshore corporations that's looting the United States, Western Europe, and the rest of the industrialized world.
And you've got the system losing all credibility, as Zbigniew Brzezinski said two weeks ago for the first time ever.
He said the whole world is awake to the world government, and their system is in trouble.
See, they're not arrogant anymore, folks.
Before, they said, write your blogs.
Have your talk radio.
We don't care.
Now they're like, emergency!
Emergency! Shut them down!
Sir, we're losing orbit.
We're going into the atmosphere.
We're going to burn up.
unidentified
Shut them down!
alex jones
Shut them down now!
Sir, it's too late!
We can't!
I mean, that's basically the situation we've reached.
We are blowing the living daylights out of the New World Order, and they know it.
And so they're pulling out all the stops.
Don't criticize the takeover of healthcare!
Don't criticize the banking takeover!
You're a racist!
Don't vote for Rand Paul!
unidentified
Racist! They're like, emergency, hit the race button!
alex jones
It's not working either!
What are we gonna do?
They don't, the people don't care what we say about them anymore if we demonize them.
What are we gonna do?
We're losing mind control over them.
What are we gonna do?
I mean, look at this Fox News article quoting the bill, written by a supposed constitutional law scholar.
Michigan considers law to license journalists.
And it goes on, according to the bill, reporters must provide the licensing board proof of, which makes the licensing board God.
And the minions, the staffers, like in East Germany, to have a play, or to make a television program, or to write a script, or to own a typewriter, you had to have special licenses, and of course the men who were over the media and the culture got to have all the beautiful women and all the power, and everyone worshipped them.
Oh yes, the government boards over the arts and entertainment, like Sarkozy in France.
Or I think it's the movie star wife.
He funds almost all the media over there.
It's a sickening joke.
Well, we're gonna be like that here, too.
Paying a license to have a television set.
Oh yes, Obama's people are proposing that.
Now listen, this is quotes from the bill.
Good moral character and demonstrate they have industry ethics standards acceptable to the board.
That's a quote.
So, the government decides what moral character is.
Handing your guns in, worshipping big government, lying for the government.
The government's going to tell you what moral character is.
They will decide.
It's completely arbitrary.
Possession of a degree in journalism or other degree, substantially equivalent.
So you can't even then be in a student paper because you have to have the degree first.
Not less than three years experience as a reporter or any other relevant background information.
You must have three years experience as a reporter to be able to be a reporter.
So when all the reporters die, there'll never be another reporter again.
Remember when Below was putting on the debates for the Republican primary?
And they weren't going to let Debra Medina in, even though she had 15% of the vote or more in the polls, some were as high as 20. And they said, well, you have to have a statewide position first of senator or governor.
So you can't run for governor unless you've already been a senator or a governor.
And of course, people laughed at them, and so they had to back off of that.
But it shows what they're...
I mean, you just heard me read from the bill.
You gotta have three years experience as a reporter to ever be a reporter.
That's interesting logic.
It's like saying you've gotta be a woman who's had children to be born as a woman.
You have to have awards or recognition related to being a reporter, three or more writing samples, and you'll have to pay an application and registration fee.
See? And they're not the only state proposing this.
It's going on in Washington State.
Stay with us.
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We're on the march.
The Empire's on the run.
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The question is, where should the American people draw their line in the sand?
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What have we got?
A republic or a monarchy?
A republic.
It's based on a constitution which protects minority rights.
alex jones
Not democracy, not mob rule.
Two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
unidentified
So they think they own our land?
They think they own our water?
Children? Our education?
Our money?
cynthia davis
We have to define who we are and what we will tolerate.
unidentified
Somebody's gonna ask you what you did during the Patriot Uprising.
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Okay, I want to go through masses of news, of course, starting with the latest developments with the flotilla raid two and a half days ago and the incredible Fallout from this, rivaling the crises on the Korean Peninsula.
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Okay, let's get rolling with the news.
We've got Dr. Corey Gold joining us in the next hour, then Dr. John Coleman, then Paul Watson, and then Charlie Skelton from Bilderberg Group over in Spain.
We're also working on other folks like Tukur.
Jim Tucker was scheduled to be on today, but his plane got delayed by 24 hours.
That is not good.
We're going to work on getting one of the other American Free Press reporters on with him.
We're also working, and we've got the London Guardian reporter coming on today.
I'm working on some other freelance reporters that are there to get different perspectives, you know, from different news agencies on what's going on.
But Charlie Skelton witnessed the lockdown of the hotel.
They're going to be meeting tomorrow, today.
So we'll get that first report on that today.
I, of course, was on Russia today.
Yesterday, reporting on the criminal Bilderberg Group and its push for world government, the fact that the European Parliament heard testimony by Daniel Estelin yesterday.
That's how mainstream this is getting to the full EU Parliament on the fact that every major EU appointee, because the way the bureaucracy works is the Parliament's elected but they have no power, like the General Assembly of the UN, they're a debating club under the bureaucracy of the EU and Herman Van Rompuy.
And so the people that should have the power, the elected representatives, they are now pointing out that the puppet EU system that is above the elected parliament is all Bilderberg Group.
So this is the beginning of the defeat of the euro.
Hey, if people in Germany and France And the Netherlands, and everywhere else, and Turkey, and Greece for that matter, and Spain, and Portugal.
If they want to have a union, good for them!
But it should be a republic.
It should be truly democratic.
A constitutional democracy.
Meaning, a republican democracy.
Meaning, you can't have 51% voting to take the other 49%'s rights.
But this is worse than that.
You've got unelected bureaucracy that never Even allowed votes in the EU on entrance.
And then bureaucrats and treacherous Prime Ministers and Presidents signed them over to it.
By the way, will you guys call Nigel Farage today?
We keep forgetting, and see how he did after his plane wreck.
Will you call Mr. Bloom and get him back on?
And then we'll get Nigel Farage on, because we keep sitting around the office going, I wonder how He did in his election.
In fact, let's look that up.
We never even looked up how he did in his...
He was a member of the European Union Parliament.
He was running for the British Parliament.
Let's look up Nigel Farage and see how he did after his plane crash.
I think I've said that about...
Well, doesn't matter.
We're going to find out right now.
We're going to find out right now what happened with that, ladies and gentlemen.
I'm brainstorming here live on the air.
Okay. I better hurry and get to the news before they pass laws and I have to go through a government board and be certified before I have any free speech because after all, that's the American way.
And if you're against banning free speech without a government license, you must be a racist.
What's that have to do with it?
Nothing, but it's a political hot button they throw in.
That's why I point out how asinine it is every time we cover a new subject.
Okay. I'm just going to read a smattering of headlines here, not making any judgment, just so you can roll this around in your mind before I give you my take on things.
This is out of Reuters.
Turkey calls on Israel to end blockade to restore ties.
More ships, including a large ship from Ireland carrying a Nobel laureate, are approaching the area where the Israelis, two and a half days ago, boarded the six ships.
Turkey demanded Israeli government lift its blockade of Gaza as a condition for normalizing relations, but added it was time that calm replaced anger after Israel's deadly raid on Turkish-backed aid flotilla.
So, you know, that was political posturing by Turkey, I'm sure, saying, we're going to send warships to protect the next ship, knowing that it would be popular with the Turkish people, and then now, the next day, saying we're not going to do that.
But if Israel goes after other ships, it's just going to continue.
And I don't follow what the UN has to say.
People keep quoting the UN, criminal organization, but it is saying that, and Israel, of course, doesn't follow the UN either, but you can't have your cake and eat it too.
A lot of you don't like Israel and what things it does, but then you don't like the UN.
But then people will quote the UN.
Is saying oh, it's illegal what Israel's blockade of Gaza, and I tend to agree I mean four years of blocking anything coming into the country And always see the spin will sometimes Israel allows things in It's just a major PR blow up,
but I'll continue here IDF Jerusalem Post reports Israeli Defense Forces say global jihad Links on flotilla And they've already shown us the knives and wooden clubs that are being called basically WMDs It's like they're saying the Atari militia Guns or WMDs now weapons of mass destruction But there is a big development.
I've been analyzing the videos as I saw this morning.
We go live on prison planet TV Towards the end of the next hour.
I'm gonna play the clip where the Israelis say it shows the People on board the big Turkish flagship throwing flashbangs.
And it does look like that.
And you did have the pro-Gaza group saying that Israel was firing on them first and pointing to the sounds of bangs.
And then you see the Israeli commandos come down on ropes and they're being beaten with clubs.
But the Arab media was saying, well, that's because they were shooting at them first.
But if indeed, and I just go to the facts, folks.
I just report the facts here.
If you've got bangs going off and it's really flash bangs being thrown, and we've got this video up on Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, if indeed they're throwing the flash bangs first, then that completely changes the situation, doesn't it? But also Israel claiming they had guns and all these weapons at first.
Well, why weren't any of the IDF shot?
So I think both sides are spinning this.
There's a fog of conflict and war here, but we'll always find out in hindsight exactly what happened.
We're continuing to analyze it.
U.S. Consulate issues advisory for Israel, for U.S. citizens traveling there.
Yeah, I don't know how why anybody travels to Israel.
It's very very dangerous.
I mean, it's like people say travel to Mexico.
It's even more dangerous.
I mean, there's no way I'd send, you know, college-age kids there like so many parents do to Mexico, especially.
We got an email here from Burgitta, and it basically reports the same thing that Jerusalem Post is reporting, and it...
Well, I'm gonna get to that in a moment, but Turkish lawmakers urge government to review Israeli ties.
You've gotta love how they're sending out this pro-Israel email.
They say, keep this to yourself.
No one is supposed to get this.
This is what IDF soldiers are telling me what happened.
And then it's sent out as a mass email so everybody does spread it.
Shh, don't give this to anybody.
You know, that's kind of like Trent Reznor put out a fake police state video two weeks ago.
You know, at the start of the video it says, don't give this to anyone, so it goes viral.
I mean, we don't use tricks like that here on the show to get the word out, folks.
We just say this is important info.
We hope you get it out to everyone.
But nevertheless, Israel has put up on YouTube a video of what shows the Arabs what looks like throwing flash banks at the pro-Gaza group.
The problem is, the CIA admitted to the Washington Post last week, they have produced fake Bin Laden videos.
Of course, we already knew that.
So, how do we believe anything?
Though the video does look real, and watching the old Bin Laden videos, you could tell they were fake.
It's pretty hard to fake these action videos.
Or it ends up looking like some type of video game.
This looks pretty real, but Again, time will tell.
Turkish lawmakers urge government to review Israeli ties.
Turkey's parliament called on the government Wednesday to review all ties with Israel as the country prepared a huge welcome home for hundreds of Turks detained after Israel's bloody raid on the Gaza-bound aid flotilla.
That's the Associated Press.
Here's the Jerusalem Post if you want to go watch the video.
The headline is activists threw stun grenades.
This is also up on Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com right now.
The IDF spokesperson's office on Wednesday afternoon released more new footage of Gaza flotilla activists attacking soldiers with a stun grenade, a box of plates, and water hoses.
Now, Fox News was trying to say yesterday that maybe it was fake video from Al Jazeera.
Well, Al Jazeera's video backs up the Israeli account.
I mean, how do you think Al Jazeera fakes video live on the deck of the ship when the Israeli commandos are coming down with their guns slung and being beaten?
That's not fake video.
Why would Al Jazeera put out video that backs up the Israeli account?
Fox News just really engages in moronic propaganda.
Just like the pro-Gaza group, you know, saying that they didn't beat anybody for the first day backfired on them.
I mean, yeah, they were attacking people.
But the issue is, this was international waters, and a lot of former Israeli Mossad folks, in fact, I'm going to go over some of that in a minute, they're saying, That this was illegal, and the way I read it, it was illegal.
Why didn't they do it once it got in Israeli waters?
It's a brazenness.
It's an arrogance.
That we can do whatever we want because, you know, we've been attacked before and we're a little country and, you know, we don't care what the world thinks.
Well, whatever.
It's a PR disaster anyway you slice it.
But I guess you're supposed to be part of the pro-Israel cult where no one can criticize anything and just do whatever Benjamin Netanyahu says.
The IDF spokesperson's office on Wednesday afternoon released more new footage of Gaza flotilla activists attacking soldiers with a stun grenade, a box of plates, and water hoses.
Now again, I'm going to say this.
I get attacked by the white supremacists and the Israel haters, and it's a wide spectrum of people.
Who were in that camp for not attacking Israel enough.
Then I got attacked by the ADL, Southern Poverty Law Center, for not worshipping Israel.
And I'm just sick of it.
I'm sick of hearing about Israel all the time.
I'm sick of having to launch all these wars because the American Christians believe that they're going to bring about the end of the world and the return of Jesus by By causing World War III in the Middle East?
Look, I don't want World War III, okay?
I don't want war with North Korea.
I don't want war with Pakistan.
I don't want to be in Iraq.
I'm sick of it, okay?
I know it's about weapon sales and oil and power and securing Israel's flank.
I'm tired of it.
I'm tired of the arrogant statements by Israeli prime ministers and the media.
And it's in the Jerusalem Post, so don't deny it, you know, saying, you know, America's in our hip pocket.
I mean, I'm tired of it.
I mean, that's why Israel gets so much criticism.
And I don't think that, you know, Israel controls the United States.
I think it's one of the big lobbies who have the same interest as the weapons manufacturers and the oil companies and, you know, mainline Christian conservatives that just love war.
I mean, let me tell you something.
It's disgusting to watch good old boys piling into liquor stores every time this country starts a new war.
I've talked to liquor store owners I know.
And also, I know a fellow that owns a pizza shop.
And I say, when do you sell the most food?
When do you sell the most liquor?
And they say, you know when?
When the new war starts.
People just get drunk for weeks.
And these good old boys with John Wayne pictures hanging up in their house.
I don't dislike John Wayne, folks.
I just don't like the cult of war.
And they just buy liquor and beer and food and they just get drunk and feel manly and cry watching buildings blowing up and feel a manly extension through it.
I'm tired of it.
I'm tired of it.
I'm sick of it.
And I want my sovereignty.
Okay? I want to follow what George Washington said.
I want to be our own country.
I want to leave everybody alone.
We'll be right back.
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Continuing with the flotilla boarding news, Viktor Ostrovsky, who was an Israeli captain and weapons expert, he headed up Israeli weapons development for the Navy, then he was recruited by the Mossad, and he wrote a book critical of Israel, of the Mossad, by way of deception, but he's pro-Israel overall, but you're not allowed to do that, see?
You can't even be an Israeli Jew.
Uh, be a former captain and then a Mossad officer and then criticize what he called corruption and lying.
Well, of course, intelligence agencies are corrupt and lying.
See, that's what's insane.
I mean, the CIA is on record shipping narcotics out of Vietnam and Afghanistan.
They're currently shipping narcotics out of Afghanistan and are so arrogant, they come out and admit it.
And then if I say I'm against the CIA shipping drugs in here, I'm unpatriotic.
No, they're unpatriotic.
That's the same thing.
To claim that Israel's all lily-white is delusional.
And that's why people who just blindly defend everything Israel does actually discredit Israel more than just being honest about the fact that any time you give a government total carte blanche to do whatever it wants, it's gonna get corrupt.
Just like our country.
The National Security Act.
Since 1947, they can do whatever they want in total darkness.
Unlimited funding.
Of course we have a criminal government.
Of course the government's taking people's pension funds now and gearing up to take them all.
No one is safe.
All these groups use your phony patriotism so you shut off your thinking process.
Not me.
Viktor Ostrovsky is in the Washington Post in this week's Spy Talk in the Washington Post.
Last week's Spy Talk, written by former spy Jeff Stein, they had the CIA by name admitting fake bin Laden videos.
Well this week, former Mossad agent ridicules Gaza ship raid Calls the flotilla raid so stupid.
It's stupefying and he said exactly what I said yesterday Only because I read a lot about naval warfare.
This is interesting You send up an open water wet sub and they can go 30 miles an hour They got a little pod that pops off and you just simply blow or cut the propellers They even got special metal ropes nets they can just throw into them No, didn't do that.
No, boarded the vessels in international waters.
And he says, why didn't they wait until they got to Israel?
And he said it's because Benjamin Netanyahu doesn't know what he's doing.
But we're not going to listen to Viktor Ostrovsky, who by the way we've had on the show before.
I'm going to get him back on.
He was on about five years ago.
Oh no, no, no, no, no.
He won't be listened to.
Benjamin Netanyahu, he has to be listened to on everything because he knows everything.
Former Mossad agent again ridicules Gaza ship raid you can read that and we'll cover more of that coming up later, but Either way you slice it this causes more of a global crisis, and it's got all the Arab states up on a big uproar And you got a million and a half people in Gaza And it's just they're living an absolute complete squalor,
and it's only getting worse Israel rejects call for independent probe calls for into Israeli Gaza blockade and uh...
by the british government and others are met with uh...
refusals iran to dump forty five billion euros from gold bullion and dollars so they're gonna buy gold bullion from dumping dollars that's prison planet dot com reported by press tv very important as directly from the iranian government at press tv report that we are linked to uh...
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BP oil leak.
May last until Christmas, Obama says.
That's Bloomberg.
Uh, Palm Beach Post.
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Dying dead marine wildlife paint dark morbid picture of Gulf Coast following oil spill.
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Music by Ben Thede Okay, ladies and gentlemen, we've got Reporters from Bilderberg Group joining us, coming up in the last hour today.
London Guardian reporter, Mr. Skelton.
We've also got Tucker and others joining us on the show, on the transmission tomorrow from Bilderberg in Spain, getting key intel on the year ahead as the world government body sets the agenda.
But I tell you, what a hot-button issue.
I mean, we have gotten Hundreds of calls off-air, hundreds and hundreds of emails on both sides, you know, saying you aren't excoriating Israel enough, and it's about 50-50, and you're not, you know, defending Israel enough, and very few in the middle saying, I think you're just giving, you know, balanced reporting.
We had Mike Rivera on, I think he's a really smart guy, and I agree with him on probably 95% of what he covers.
I didn't agree with him when he started trying to link Israel, but I understand he thinks they want to start a war overall as a smokescreen with the whole North Korea situation.
But, I mean, that was quite an interview yesterday and we appreciate Mike coming on the show.
And then I was talking, because I've been discussing with one of the station owners, he has me on two stations out there.
uh mz does uh out in santa cruz going into san francisco going out there next year i don't go to a lot of stations to give speeches but but he's been asking me a lot and he's done a lot helping me getting radio ink and things so i i've talked about you know going out there so i was nailing that down
for maybe september or october and he said my gosh we got hundreds of phone calls both pro and con and he goes that's what i like he said it's really stirred things up here on the radio station and i said and uh i said yeah we're trying to get somebody on uh we're With, you know, the pro-Israel view, because I like to show both sides, plus it's Good Talk Radio.
And I said, do you know anybody?
And he said, yeah, Dr. Corey Gold.
And I said, well, wait a minute.
Didn't I fill in one day, you know, as a guest host with you when he was out of town a few weeks ago?
He goes, yeah, that's the show.
And I said, oh, I've heard clips of that before on the web.
That's a pretty, you know, well-spoken fellow.
Let's have him on.
And so he is here on the broadcast.
And, you know, I've learned with Israel And we're going to come back from break, as some stations don't carry this segment, and go straight to him.
I've learned with the Israel situation, there is no black or white.
There is no lukewarm.
There is no, it's what side you choose.
And those that hate Israel, they, to them, that's, you know, they're on the white side.
And to those that love Israel, they're on the white side, wearing the white hats.
And that's just the way it is.
And you're not going to convince anybody.
I have noticed the people that hate Israel, it's a religion.
Just like supporting Israel is religious, almost.
Well, it's based on a religion, I guess, at its core.
So it is religious.
And the people that hate Israel will make up all sorts of stuff.
Just because I haven't viciously attacked Israel and have been neutral on it over the years, kind of like Switzerland, I have had every line of the sun made up about me.
So it makes you automatically disrespect the people that constantly attack Israel.
Because I found that, by and large, they are a bunch of manufacturers and liars.
I mean, I've never experienced the death threats, the lies, the distortions about me.
I mean, they just make up endless things.
We're owned by ABC.
Totally untrue.
No connection to ABC.
I guess five years ago, we leased a satellite, as anybody does on talk radio, you know, one feet of thousands.
If you start a show about pets, you've got to go lease one of three satellites, but they're out of it now.
And they made lies.
Or they claim I'm owned by Saudi Arabian companies.
Just lies is the name of the game.
But separately, I found pro-Israel grudges.
And you know what?
I think Israel was out of line doing this in international waters.
I think Israel gave themselves a black eye.
But that doesn't mean I hate Israel.
And so I get both sides attacking me.
We'll talk to Dr. Corey Gold on the other side.
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All right, coming up in the next hour, it's probably been eight, nine years since I had him on, Dr. John Coleman will be joining us to talk about the Committee of 300, a key globalist focus group, a nexus organization between the Trilateral Commission, CFR, and Bilderberg Group, His evidence is even more powerful than the 150-member Bilderberg.
And then we've got Charlie Skelton, who is writing for the Evening Standard and The Guardian, reporting on Bilderberg from Spain, and Paul Watson joining us both together in the last hour today.
But for the next 52 minutes, we're joined by Dr. Corey Gold.
And he is a dentist-turned-entrepreneur who started and sold many businesses and who currently owns a growing online-based training business for medical doctors and dentists for their consulting and education licensing requirements.
He's also a popular primetime talk show host on KSCO, News Talk AM 1080, and the Monterey Salinas Santa Cruz, which is also an affiliate of the Alex Jones Radio Show.
And we're actually on two stations there in the area.
They have us on live up against Limbaugh on the smaller station.
And they re-air me at night on the big mega station that goes into San Francisco and other big cities.
And it's the top station there in town on talk radio.
It's got Limbaugh and George Norrie and all those folks.
We're very appreciative of that affiliate.
And I was looking around yesterday for somebody to come on to give a pro-Israel view.
And Dr. Corey Gold certainly has that perspective.
Because one thing I don't want to do here is just be on one side or the other.
Especially on issues where it's an ancient feud and both sides I believe have perspective and points.
And then there's propaganda on both sides, but we'll get his take on the boarding of the flotilla two days ago.
So, Dr. Gold, good to have you on with us.
dr corey gold
Good to be with you, Alex.
alex jones
So much going on.
Well, you've got the floor.
I heard it was hot discussion yesterday when I went off the air on your show, so give us your rundown on what you think's really going on.
dr corey gold
Well, Alex, you're making my job easy, because you are on one of our sister stations right before I go on the air.
Um, opposite Rush Limbaugh in our community.
We run both stations.
And by the way, I'm one of your, listen to you every day, love your show.
And we probably share, I don't know, 90% the same philosophy, and that's what makes listening to your show every morning great.
I'm listening yesterday, and I hear Mike Rivera on, and I'm going, am I really hearing this on the show?
Because, you know, before the ink is dried on this incident, before people even know what facts are in play, judgments are already being passed.
And we hear this every day.
On other issues, like what happened with the plane going to the IRS building, what happened with militias, what's going on with tea parties, where people are making judgment calls on things before people know facts.
And I hear a guy doing that yesterday.
alex jones
Well, maybe you should get Mike on, because he's a pretty nice fella.
Maybe you should get him on your show.
dr corey gold
I'd be happy to.
alex jones
And then you can go on his program.
dr corey gold
But one of the things I want to say about this thing is, what's happening in the Middle East is not a cartoon.
It's not like this black and white, there's one right group, there's one wrong group.
It's this very simple, non-complex situation.
It is so multi-layered and so complex that even the people who study it Let me be clear from what I was saying earlier.
alex jones
When I said it's not black and white in reality, but it is black and white to the factions, everybody thinks basically they're 100% correct.
dr corey gold
What's interesting is within Israel itself, there's a large movement of people who actually disagree with the government and would like to do almost anything they could.
Could do to create peace.
And those people have been in government for a long period of time and have actually tried quite hard to create peace with the Palestinians and create a Palestinian homeland.
It's really difficult when you have a bunch of players like Hamas, Hezbollah, and others like Syria and agitators like Iran.
It's complex.
Who do you create peace with and how do you create peace at all?
And the whole concept of negotiating with somebody who says, where our charter says, We want to destroy you, and let's try to create a peace treaty with them.
It's a complex situation.
I will agree with you.
That was a PR disaster, what happened a couple days ago out off the coast of Israel and the coast of Gaza.
But I think it was a PR disaster that was totally set up, and they walked into it.
I think when Turkey, when those boats left Turkey, and they had the cameras on by Al Jazeera, and they had, it was a pre-announced, here we come, stop us if you can, we're gonna break your blockade.
And the Israelis were provoked to block the blockade.
And, uh, the whole thing was filmed.
We saw some from Al Jazeera.
We're just starting to see some from, uh, IDF footage.
And, uh, what we're seeing is, is that there was scuffles on the boats, and it was not a black and white situation of what to happen.
I can tell you it was a PR disaster.
And Israel will take a big hit because of how the world will perceive what happened.
But it's not simple to what's happening in Gaza.
One thing I'll tell you is the people who are living in Gaza are human pawns.
They're being used by Hamas and Hezbollah and many other people as fodder to keep this going.
alex jones
Sure, why doesn't Egypt, who's got a giant population, just let the million and a half Gazans come in there?
dr corey gold
And by the way, there's been discussions about letting Jordan take over the West Bank, you know, but that's not something they even want to have.
There's been discussions about Egypt taking over Gaza and letting them self-rule themselves, but it's not something they want.
alex jones
And that's because the Palestinians have a history of trying to overthrow governments they're in.
dr corey gold
You're right!
So there's this complex situation going on where no one wants to accept anybody else's solution, and I don't know if it'll ever get solved, but it's not a black and white situation going on there.
And Israel has taken stances right now, just like, you know, in other places where you swing too far left.
You know, Israel was very far left before and was ready to give almost everything away.
It was turned down.
So the reaction by the Israeli people was, hey, if we want to give you everything and you turn it down, we're going to try the other stance, which is Netanyahu, which is a very stiff boot.
My guess is he'll be out soon and another left-wing government will come in.
It's one of these things where when you offer somebody what they're asking, they don't take it.
Where do you go from there?
So it's a complex situation.
What's happening out in Gaza is tragic.
What's happening to those people there It is absolutely tragic.
And part of it is Israel, part of it is the leadership in Hamas and Hezbollah, part of it is the rest of the world just letting it go on.
And, you know, Israel has taken a stance that they say the following, we are not letting ships come in because we are afraid that those ships will contain weapons.
We want to board and we want to check ships before they come in and that is how we're going to play this game.
The other ships coming there know exactly this.
And when they decide they want to break it, they're intentionally doing it Knowing that the Israelis will interact with them, and they come with cameras on board.
alex jones
But wait, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but I've done the research.
Doesn't Israel turn back almost all the boats, even if they try to stop for inspection?
dr corey gold
They let through some.
Others they'll port in Israel, and then they'll take the materials into Gaza once they've had a chance to inspect them.
But part of it is...
alex jones
But then the corrupt authorities keep it for themselves.
dr corey gold
You mean, corrupt authorities where?
alex jones
In Gaza.
dr corey gold
You're right!
It's like when we send aid to Pakistan, and we expect the aid to get to the right people.
We know that, at least I believe, that most of it goes to the wrong people.
You know, when we send money into Afghanistan to work with some of the people there, it's supposed to go to the people who, you know, need the food and stuff, and yet the reaction is, by me, it's like it's all going to go to the wrong people.
You're right.
When it goes into Gaza, the people who are in charge of Gaza do what they want with it.
And, you know, it's one of those situations where those people are human fodder.
They are being used to create world sympathy because they are in a tragic situation.
Yet the people who run their organization don't really have incentive to close it because...
alex jones
Well, I'll say this.
It is a fact that, especially Saddam Hussein and others, and I was against that war, by the way, but they admitted that they all use basically the Palestinian thing as a political distraction Kind of like gay marriage, and I'm not saying I'm for gay marriage, folks. I'm saying it's used as a political football to distract from larger issues that go on.
And it's basically the same thing.
All the Arab states love to point at Israel and make statements because it becomes a convenient political distraction.
Regardless of where you stand on Israel, you know, the Arab states are extremely Extremely corrupt and I never really hear these aid groups talking about all the oppression going on in Saudi Arabia or the oppression of Christians and other groups going on in Egypt or or what's happening.
It's the cause celeb Is bashing Israel.
Now Israel, in my opinion, does do a lot of manipulative bad things, but that's what governments do.
I'm not saying that's okay either.
It's the nature of governments.
It just seems like it's just never going away.
A quagmire of quagmires.
dr corey gold
You know, I agree with you on that.
You know, one of the things that I get on my show a lot, particularly about you, and I'm going to ask you a question straight out and let you answer it without interruption.
People get this belief system that your use of the word Zionism at times has a different meaning than most people have for Zionism.
And the reason I'm asking this question is not to make you look bad or to put you in a funny position.
I think if you actually told people what you thought Zionism was, because sometimes you say Zionist people do this or Zionist people do that.
How do you view that word?
What does it mean to you?
alex jones
Well, see, that's another problem.
All this is so complex.
There's three or four, even more, different variants of Zionist.
There's Christian Zionist.
There's left-wing Jewish Zionist.
There's right-wing Jewish Zionist.
There's globalist Zionist who say they're Zionist but then basically support the whole world government.
I mean, I know I mean, that's an endless discussion right there.
dr corey gold
Well, the reason I say that is because the vast majority of people who listen to your show, and a lot of them are Jewish and are big supporters of what you say, because most of it's dead on.
When they think of Zionism, they think of somebody who just believes in the right for Israel to exist, and that's where it begins and ends to them.
You can be a conservative Zionist, you can be a liberal Zionist, you can be a rich Zionist, a poor Zionist, a black Zionist, a white Zionist.
It's not really any of the above.
It's simply the belief system and the right of Israel to exist.
So when that term gets used in other things, they're saying, wait a second, so people who believe in the right of Israel to exist are doing these things, and that's where sometimes people get a little bit agitated at you because they see that word differently than maybe you're using it.
alex jones
Well, this is how I really see it.
Like any political group, they basically have their supporters who mean well, and then you've got the inner group And again, there's multiple groups within Zionism, from my research, who are manipulating and controlling through the tribal war-like culture, which everybody has built into them.
They're controlling those groups, and then they have a separate agenda from what they're actually telling their followers and supporters.
So when I'm talking about...
Again, that's the problem.
I mean, how do you even define what a...
Well, you know what let's let's come back because there's the break in and I'll try to elaborate on it I didn't know I was gonna be asked that question because it's just such a deep question We'll be right back on the other side stay with us.
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When I have guests on that are criticizing, quote, Zionists, the general public that's scared of what Israel's doing with its nuclear weapons and the rest of it, and particularly the Likudniks, the pro-war crowd, They think of a modern Zionist as someone lobbying the U.S. government to attack more Middle Eastern countries that could cause World War III.
And they think of Israel as basically how they think of the CIA.
You know, people running Israel.
I'm against what the CIA does.
That is the leadership of it growing opium.
But when I have Ray McGovern on, who was a chief analyst for the CIA, he's a good guy.
Or when I have somebody else on.
So, again, all these big organizations or groups are very diverse.
And I know that all the different factions like to oversimplify it.
And, you know, even if you dress up in a Nazi outfit and wear a Hitler mustache and, you know, say, kill all Jews, the anti-Semitic groups will hate you because they all hate each other more than any other group.
So I certainly don't ever want to be associated with them.
And I don't want to be associated with the worship, you know, pro-war uh...
christian zionist who literally want to cause world war three and make jesus come back i mean i've seen it uh...
i'm a christian these people are dangerous uh...
and uh...
i don't know if zionist jews what were your that is a jews that believe israel has a right to exist and i don't think they're bad people are certainly not i don't think they realize Just how, and I'm not scapegoating Christian Zionists, that's a diverse spectrum of people as well.
You know, they'll call in and say, look, I'm a Christian who thinks Israel has a right to exist.
Well, fine.
But are you the group saying we've got to get all Jews back to Israel so Jesus will come back, so World War III can happen?
Mr. Gold, Dr. Gold, I mean, are you aware of that group of Zionists?
dr corey gold
They call my shows, well, no.
Christian Zionists, that's a whole other thing, but when a Jewish person hears the word Zionist, they simply think of historically over the last 140 years, since Theodore Herzl, about the concept of having a place like Israel where Jews could go.
It was before World War I, it was before the Holocaust and World War II, it was simply an outgrowth of that belief system of returning to the homeland of the Jews.
And so when people hear that word who are Jewish, when they think of the word Zionist, like my, I know friends of mine who are the most Progressive liberal people on the planet who we can't agree on anything, but they call themselves Zionists.
And I myself would be pretty much a conservative or an open independent individual, and I'm a Zionist because I believe in Israel's right to exist.
I believe in Mexico's right to exist.
I believe in Canada's right to exist.
So that's how they kind of see that definition of what a Zionist is.
They don't attribute everything else to it.
And Jewish people obviously don't ascribe to the belief system that we should have World War III to bring back the, you know, the Jesus rebirth and have all the Jews die in Israel.
That would not be something that anybody who's a Jewish person would consider to be a good idea.
So, I don't see that as...
alex jones
But you are familiar with that strain.
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dr corey gold
I have people call my show on a regular basis going over that, that they believe that the reason they support Israel is so that Israel can ultimately be destroyed, so that the Messiah can come.
Obviously, my opinion is the Messiah wants to come.
He doesn't need me to kill a bunch of people to have him come.
He can come on his own.
He's got his own, you know, abilities to do those things.
He doesn't need me to pick up a gun and shoot somebody to have him come.
So, that wouldn't be something I ascribe to.
On my show, and I have days where I simply say, why do you hate Tuesday?
And you'll have amazing phone callers who call in and tell you bizarre, almost psychotic reasons why they hate Tuesday.
alex jones
You want to do that here?
dr corey gold
Oh, I don't want to do that here.
I mean, you can.
I don't care.
But the reality is, is when you hear those people speak, you realize how stupid it is.
alex jones
Well, here's what I'm saying.
I feel like it's a diversion.
And a distraction.
And I want people to live in peace over there.
And certainly, you know, Jewish people have a right to a homeland.
It is a tiny country.
There are some problems with how Israel came to be.
And, you know, the forcing out of the Muslims and the Palestinians.
So, I mean, there's a big issue there.
dr corey gold
But the question is, who forced them out?
And another thing, you can go back.
Look at the map from a hundred years ago and try to find the same countries on it today.
The map keeps on changing around the globe.
alex jones
No, no, I understand that.
I understand the United States was carved out of taking land from Spain and from France and from the Native Americans.
Look, I'm not...
I mean, I understand history is history.
I mean, I'm a fan of Andrew Jackson, and people say, well, that guy, you know, took a bunch of Indian land.
Overall, though, you know, I mean, the natives were all fighting with each other and different factions and begging, because I've actually studied the history, you know, to get settlers to help them go displace their enemy.
So I understand it's not cut and dry.
I've actually studied history.
My frustration is I'm sick of talking about Israel.
I want to defend my republic.
I want lower taxes.
I want to be able to raise my children.
I want a free press.
And I'm just tired of how it's a political football on all different sides.
And I'm just sick of hearing about Israel.
But let's come back and get your take on that.
You know what?
You broached the idea.
And so we'll do it.
As long as people can be civil.
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I run into this all the time.
I criticize open borders because we have a welfare system in this country that is going bankrupt.
The states are going bankrupt.
I don't have to go through the evidence of that.
You know that.
It's admitted on the news.
More than 15 states have gone bankrupt or on the verge of going bankrupt.
You've got 6.5 billion people that want to come here.
There's 6.8.5, so I guess 6,850,000,000 plus people.
Eight plus billion want to come here.
And I was on a libertarian show last night, Free Talk Live, and they want to have a whole debate on their show and also on my show about immigration.
They said, well, we're total libertarians.
You know, we want to get rid of the borders.
And I said, oh yeah, get rid of the borders with Latin America that's completely collapsed and bring in a voting bloc that will vote to take our guns and will vote to take our private property.
That's the fact.
That's how those people vote.
And that will bankrupt the states because we have this welfare system.
If we didn't have a Democratic Party and Liberation Theology, I had a caller yesterday, and then we're going back to our guest, on that show, who said, well, what's wrong with Liberation Theology?
Well, the Ford Foundation and the federal government for 50 years have taught people in Mexico and in all the public schools in the U.S. I was taught this in Rockwall and then in Austin.
In Dallas and in Austin.
No matter what class, where I went, then in college, that America stole Mexico, America's evil, America's gonna fall to Azatlan.
The mythical southwest kingdom of the Aztecs.
We have the video clip of the former Austin mayor saying that Hispanics are the God race.
Look, I could care less if you got brown skin and are Hispanic.
Okay? I like senoritas and I like Mexican culture and I like enchiladas.
I liked a vacation in Mexico that wasn't so dangerous.
But Mexico is a collapsing society with 23 plus thousand deaths the last two years.
And they want the North American Union to merge me into this?
And the North American Union, SPP, is an undemocratic system?
And the guy called in and said, I used to really love you, but I feel like you're in culture on steroids and that you don't like Hispanics.
I could care less what color you are.
It's how you behave.
Are you a constitutionalist?
Are you into the free market?
Are you into a free society?
I mean, come on!
I mean, to all these libertarians, the big global corporations want open borders.
Why do you think that is?
I mean, I ask this question, and why does the Israeli lobby, almost to a man, vote to take my guns and vote To open my borders up, and if the Muslims are basically blood-drinking vampires that want to rip my throat out, why are they always lobbying to bring unlimited immigration in?
Why? Why?
Why is the pro-Israel lobby in Europe lobbying for open borders?
What is going on with that?
Why does the pro-Israel lobby, Schumer and Lieberman, the leaders Of the open border and anti-gun movement, but they want Israel to have borders.
They want Israel to have M16s.
So great, have your walls and have your M16s, Israel.
We deserve M16s.
You know, that's my issue.
And so going back to you and then calls with Dr. Corey Gold, who is an American Jew, saying he's a Zionist, meaning he believes in Israel as a right to exist.
Okay, well, I believe America has a right to exist and and you know, and and you know, I know his show He's pro Second Amendment pro border.
That's great.
I mean, how do you Why do we see so much of the pro Israel lobby then at the same time?
Going along with Obama and others against our liberties here at home.
Why is there that schizophrenia?
dr corey gold
It is a schizophrenia and I don't understand it as you said earlier.
I'm pro border control.
I'm I'm pro what they're doing Arizona.
I'm for gun rights and And a lot of Jewish people are.
We're not monolithic.
Those individuals, I have...
I'm glad they're pro-Israel, but there are other stances I disagree with.
So, you know, Jewish people are not monolithic.
They can have very divergent point of views.
Chuck Schumer, and the way he's dealing with American sovereignty, I'm totally against what he's saying.
Absolutely, 100%.
alex jones
Well, how do we get, then, wealthy, intelligent, well-educated Jewish communities To go elect Jews who are, you know, pro-Second Amendment, anti-New World Order.
Because I'll guarantee you, all this anti-, and of course we've been talking off air, no one denies it, this massive wave of anti-Israel, anti-Jew, because first it was, oh, we just don't like Zionists, is what the white supremacists say, and then next it's, no, it's Jews.
And they put out a lot of propaganda in this info.
But then it doesn't help Israel's case when its lobbyists here in the U.S. are going against so many of our freedoms.
I'll guarantee you a lot of this anti-Israel stuff would disappear overnight if the Israeli lobby, and I know it's not one monolithic group, but predominantly, would stop going for the New World Order.
dr corey gold
Yeah, but, you know, people who are Zionists and people who are Jewish people cannot control What Chuck Schumer does, and they can't control what Joseph Lieberman, and they can't control what those individuals do.
These individuals...
are doing their own thing for their own purposes and don't understand what they are.
I can't tell you what they are because as a person who's for border control and for guns rights, I don't know why they would want to do what they're doing.
And you're right.
They do support Israel and have them have a right to exist.
But on the other hand, they do things that can be considered anti-American.
So I think that's just their own selves, whether or not they have problems with America, whether they don't like America, whether they want America to become part of a union.
I can't tell you what that is.
But yeah, you're right.
They seem to have, on one hand, a belief that Israel should have those rights and America shouldn't.
So, yeah, you're right.
You're calling it out for what it is.
alex jones
Well, that's my only issue.
And I guarantee you if the Jewish folks in America got really educated on this issue, but you never see it on the media, they could – You know, basically reverse what's going on.
But of course, it's not just the Jewish politicians, it's basically all of them, especially in the Democratic Party.
dr corey gold
But if you think about it, when you have a look at the open border situation, I mean, we've had Republican Presidents, Republican Congresses, Democratic Presidents, Democratic Congresses, and they all talk about closing the border, and it all stays open.
So I don't look at it as being a Jewish, a Christian, a Democratic, a Republican issue.
It's just well beyond that.
Nobody's looking at that issue.
alex jones
No, no, I agree with you, but let me throw this in.
Uh, Jeffrey Goldberg came down here from Atlantic Monthly probably six months ago to interview me, and he's a huge Israeli first-year.
I mean, you know, a member of the IDF, prison guard, whole nine yards, wrote the key reports about fake WMDs.
He's credited with being one of the key people to lead us to the 2003 war, and he wanted to come down here and do a piece on me, and he's still working on it.
And, you know, so he's a pretty high-powered guy, so I agreed to meet with him.
And he agreed.
He said, yeah, no, the ADL is really discrediting itself, and he's gotten awards from them, you know, coming out and demonizing Glenn Beck, and he's pretty pro-Israel, by the way, and demonizing all these mainline conservatives and libertarians.
And so that's another thing.
People who've Who have defended Israel in the past, then get demonized by B'nai B'rith and others, and it makes them very, very angry.
So I just think that also the Democratic Party has kind of used some of these ADL-type groups as a way to paint their enemies, and I think that's backfiring big time as well.
dr corey gold
The average person listening in, the average person who is a Democratic by the D by their name when they go vote in the primaries, a Republican when they go vote in the primaries, is so busy raising a family, trying to keep, you know, their roof over their head, trying to make sure their car engine starts, trying to make sure their kids stay in school and do okay, that they simply just follow along sometimes with what the party says because they don't research on their own, they don't have the time, or in their mind they don't, so they simply follow along with what the party says.
So Republicans tend to hold similar views I've been called a racist because I was against what Obama was doing with healthcare.
alex jones
Absolutely. I mean, that's just crazy.
So overall, I just think the climate is getting nastier because the economy is falling apart.
And I think people are going to look for convenient scapegoats.
And we know historically one of the favorite ones is Jews.
And I do think that it's a dangerous scapegoat because we need to all look ourselves in the mirror.
Why is poisonous fluoride in our water?
It's because we let the chemical companies sell it to our cities through their lobbying.
We need to stop just hating Israel and start looking at real issues.
We need to stop just, you know, hating Arabs and blaming them for everything.
And we need to get the vaccine poisons, you know, removed via mercury.
I mean, there's all these real issues going on, but groups just like to sit there and, you know, beat the drum and, you know, conveniently blame one group or another.
And overall, every time things start collapsing in history, we see this happen.
dr corey gold
Government works by creating crisis.
When crisis happens, people say, listen, the world's economic situations, they come into total, utter chaos unless you do X. And X is really bad, but the unknown is much worse.
But we have to act right now.
What do you want?
The really super terrible or even worse that you don't know?
So people, government works by creating a chaos, by creating a total fear and by creating the environment that if it's not acted upon this very second, the world will fall off its cliff.
And that's what's happened with all these things we've done with the banking.
And that's what happens when they say, listen, somebody shunk a ship.
We've got to go to war.
This guy's got a weapons of mass destruction.
We've got to go to war.
Look what's happened off the coast of Israel.
We have to go to war.
And then we sit back six weeks later and go, wait a second, it wasn't nearly as bad as we thought it was, or this was largely manipulated, or we were only given part of the facts, or the facts were exaggerated.
But government works by creating a frenzy, by creating a fear, and by saying, well, we don't trust government.
If they don't fix it, it'll be worse.
alex jones
Well, Victor Avstrovsky, of course, former naval captain in the Israeli forces and then a member of the Mossad, he was in the Washington Post this morning calling it so stupid it's stupefying the way they did it.
And he said that clearly the...
The naval forces and the commandos had no hand in their orders.
They were clearly told by people that didn't know what they were doing what to do, and that they should have simply gotten aboard of the ships once they entered Israeli water, that he thinks it's illegal that it was international water, and that agrees with the other wide spectrum of experts.
Well they should have just come up and disabled the rudders with metal nets they just throw into the propellers and that would have been the end of the story right there instead of these dramatic images.
So I think Israel was wrong in doing that but I don't just join in on lies.
Clearly the commandos were not firing when they bordered and they were attacked with the poles and now there is the video of the people throwing flashbangs at the borders.
And so that appears to be the bangs that were heard ahead of things.
But I'll go further.
Victor says that there were probably Israeli, for sure, Mossad on board who infiltrated the groups.
So who knows if they were provocateuring.
But I mean, because we've just seen this from intelligence agencies.
So I think the bottom line is we don't know what happened here.
But I'm glad that Turkey is now saying that...
Cooler heads need to prevail, and they're backing off of their stance of military confrontation yesterday, because can you imagine?
dr corey gold
Well, Turkey's a NATO member, and Israel's a NATO member, and the last thing we need is two NATO members shooting at one another over what really is in the big picture things.
You mentioned there's 23,000 people killed along the Mexican border, and nobody seems to care about that.
But we have an incident where two countries have an agitation at sea.
Both countries think that they're right.
Both countries think they did the right thing.
Nine people die, and it's bad.
And that's gonna cause World War 3. And the last thing Israel needs is a war.
Israel's like in some areas like 10, 12, 15 miles wide.
The last thing a country that small needs is war.
And I know a lot of people think that Israel wants war.
Israel can't sustain war.
Israel can inflict a lot of damage on other countries if they're attacked.
Because from the standpoint of taking a sustained war against them, they wouldn't be around to see the end of it.
alex jones
Well, here's a new video that's out.
Israelis celebrating attack on Turkish aid ship in front of Turkish Embassy Tel Aviv.
That is not going to be a good PR move.
dr corey gold
If there's one quarter of one percent of crazy people, they're in Israel too.
alex jones
No, no, no.
That's like the people that say they're anti-gays, so they go protest at the funerals of troops.
I mean, and I've watched videos of those guys.
They really think they're doing something good.
All they're doing Is making themselves and anybody who thinks the homosexual lifestyle is destructive look like idiots?
dr corey gold
Yeah, no, there's fringe groups and everything, and the problem is if we only put the camera on the fringe group, then we think that's what that whole country is.
Every black person's this, because we showed some...
Six crazy black people.
Every white person's this because we show six crazy white people.
And it makes everybody look stupid when the rest of the people are going, hey, I know all those, lots of people in my group and none of us act like that.
They specifically choose what makes people agitated.
And by the way, government works by keeping people apart.
If whites hate blacks and blacks hate Mexicans and Mexicans hate Jews, the more people that are separated, the less we can get together, the more...
alex jones
And then meanwhile, the big corporate editors can take over our society.
We've got you for the rest of this segment.
One more.
I'm going to keep you five minutes over if you can do it.
Then we've got Dr. John Coleman coming on about Committee of 300.
Let's go to these calls now.
Again, why you love Israel or why you hate it.
He asked for it, so we're doing it.
But at a certain level, folks, this is a diversion from the economy falling apart, from all the new taxes.
I mean, I almost feel dirty even getting sucked into all this, but it's just the nature of it, and I try over the years to stay out of it, but it's the same thing with the borders.
You cannot stay out of it.
Kevin in Nebraska, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hi. You guys both touched on what I'm going to mention, but essentially I think we have to look at the real big picture, and we have to look at it as the incident was either created by the Bilderberg Group, Or it wasn't.
If it wasn't, then how are they going to spin it through the media now?
alex jones
Well, that's another question.
Why are all these crises all over the world suddenly popping up in the middle of the biggest banking takeover in history?
That's a key point.
And something stinks in this whole thing, the way it was timed for the peace process, for Netanyahu to be in D.C.
Your take on that, Doctor?
dr corey gold
Well, I don't know who did what.
I think that you're right.
When those ships left...
Turkey. It was with the intention of creating some type of world event.
Because they knew that a blockade was there.
Israel said, you come by, we're going to abort you.
They said, we know it, we're coming anyway.
We've got our camera people on board, and the rest will be great video fun for the rest of YouTube.
So yeah, it was sent there to create exactly what we got, which is some people hating Israel, other people being very fearful of World War III, people thinking that maybe the oil channels will be shut down, maybe they should hunker down.
I don't know who started it, but when it left Turkey, it was with the full intention of creating world havoc.
alex jones
Well said.
Anything else, Kevin?
unidentified
Uh, yeah, just, I guess that we need to look at what the, what agenda they're pushing.
I mean, is it just a smoke screen for the economy takeover, or what's the deal?
I guess that's just the thing to focus on, is what's the Bilderberg game through all this, since they basically control the media.
So, that's it.
alex jones
Thanks. I appreciate your call, Kevin.
Brad in Idaho, you're on the air.
unidentified
Did you say Brad?
alex jones
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Okay, sorry about that.
alex jones
No, it's okay.
unidentified
I have three real quick points, if I can try.
You know, the Bible, I think people are so passionate because their belief system from the Bible.
And there's lots of great theologians in history that don't believe that the Bible predicts a new state of Israel, and then there's people, there's theologians that do believe that.
I think the big passionate problem is people's belief system.
And then they, and then, and so they either believe Israel has, is predicted by God, and so justice doesn't matter.
And I think they've lost their sense of standing for justice because of their belief.
And then my other point is, yes, the Jews and the Israelites I mean, Israelites and the Arabs fought 2,000 years ago and a thousand years past that.
But for the 2,000 years since Rome destroyed Israel, or Judea, there really hasn't been a war between Jews and Arabs.
alex jones
Well, there are a whole bunch of them.
Stay there, I'm going to come back to you.
There are a whole bunch.
Well, there are like three, four wars that Israel's had, or even more if you count the smaller situations like 18 months ago or three years ago with what happened in Lebanon.
But yeah, no, it's almost 2,000 years.
It's 1,960 years since Titus sacked Rome, or a little bit longer.
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All the lasers out Yeah, well, it was Titus destroyed Jerusalem 1,940 years ago, or 70 A.D. Now, I want to go back to your calls.
We've only got this segment and one other with our guest.
We'll have to have him back, especially if he wants to open the phones up and have one of these debates.
I think it is healthy to discuss it, but I've got a more hardcore email here before I go back.
Uh, to, uh, your calls.
Alex, I've got a question for your guest.
Jewish people believe they are the chosen people.
So, with that belief, does that not promote you are above everybody else?
The fact that the Israeli military invaded a flagged Turkish ship, international waters, and killed citizens in the middle of the night.
That ship is the sovereign land, the land of the flag.
It flies, period.
If a group enters our property with automatic weapons in the middle of the night, even the sheeple will fight back for self-preservation.
And it just goes on from there.
I don't have time to read it all.
But what do you say to Chris, who sent that email?
dr corey gold
Well, I think that he had two different things going on.
One is, does Israel have a right to board the ships?
And we can debate whether or not you have a right to, if you think.
If America thought that weapons were going to be heading off to Mexico to be launched against America, we'd probably board the ships at sea, and we'd all think they were heroes when they were found, and we'd think that we were bums if they didn't find them.
George Bush would be a hero today if there was lots of weapons of mass destruction.
He's kind of a bum because he went to a war for no good reason.
About being the chosen people, boy, we couldn't have chosen a worse slogan if you could think of it.
Every nation and every religion takes pride in that they believe what their religion is true.
And they believe that the people who follow that religion are correct.
Christians believe that those who follow Christianity are correct.
Muslims believe that those who follow the Muslim faith are correct.
And Jews believe that those who follow the Jewish faith are correct as well.
And everybody likes to take, you know, believe that what they say is right and that God loves them.
In today's modern world, I'm a reformed Jew.
We don't look at the concept of being the chosen people.
We look at it as being people who are Jewish, and we don't think that we're different or better or more superior to any other religion.
And by the way, the majority of Jews fall to be either reformed or conservative, not orthodox.
If you're watching Yentl on television and you think that's a stereotypical Jew, that's not a Jew nowadays.
There are some of them, and I know they're listening out there and they're mad at me, but that's maybe 1% or 2% of the Jews in the world.
alex jones
Well, a lot of the Orthodox Jews believe Israel doesn't have a right to exist.
You've got the Neutrocardian New York.
dr corey gold
You're right.
alex jones
It just goes on and on.
I won't be able to get to some call.
I just wanted to throw his email on.
I think you answered it well.
Brad, finishing up your point, I held you over.
unidentified
Go ahead.
So, not counting the past 100 years, so for like 1800 years, There is no wars between Jews and Arabs that I can see in history.
And then the other thing, the last point I wanted to make is, I believe that the bankers grabbed a bunch of very innocent Jews from Europe and took them to the Middle East as part of their New World Order.
And I think they're just pawns.
alex jones
Well, that's another issue.
Saying that the Palestinians are being used by other Arab countries as pawns is true.
And I think at certain levels, the Jews that are in Israel are also used as geopolitical pawns.
dr corey gold
Well, people are pawns of their government.
The people in North Korea, for the most part, don't want to be oppressed.
The people in other countries don't want to be oppressed.
Governments run their countries.
The people, for the most part, just don't want to be killed each day.
alex jones
Yeah, that's my problem with the cop-out saying the source of all evil on the planet is Israel and Jews.
That's just not true.
There was evil going on in Israel.
Every country before Jews ever arrived.
And it really is a bunch of hocus-pocus to say that Jews are evil.
Are there evil Jews?
dr corey gold
Yes. Well, take it one step further.
If every Jew just disappeared today and we all took a carnival cruise to Mars, you don't think the world would be full of evil people and evil governments?
alex jones
No, it's ridiculous.
I appreciate your call.
It's a religion, though, hating Jews.
Let's go ahead and talk to Carl in Michigan.
Quickly, Carl, as we're going to break.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Alex, it's good to get on the show, so I'll leave that brief.
What I wanted to say is basically Israel, as many nations since the beginning of time, established their country and, you know, drew out their boundaries by force, and then when they get established in a position, then they dictate to other countries whether or not they have the Thank
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We're going live at PrisonPlanet.tv at the start of the next segment with Dr. John Coleman.
This has gone by really fast, so I want to try to jam in more of your calls.
John, Rudy, Mike, Chuck, we'll get to everybody even though our guest has to leave us here in a moment.
But finishing up your point, Carl, go ahead.
unidentified
I feel somewhat under pressure.
I didn't realize there was a short time segment here.
Going back to the Holocaust and the fact that they had the right to defend themselves and the allies against Hitler and us against the Japanese after Pearl Harbor, those are definite.
But I think people are still publicizing this so much, things that occurred years ago, that we're the underdogs, they're the underdogs.
It has to come a time when people realize that they're no longer the underdog, or that everybody's picking on them.
And in fact, quite the contrary.
They're dictating, I believe, too much of what goes on with the Arabs in the region.
alex jones
Well no, clearly Israel had the world's support when they were the underdog.
More and more people do not see Israel as the underdog.
That's a very valid point.
dr corey gold
comments on that dr goldwell after world war two a lot of the world felt pretty bad about letting the holocaust is happen and yeah and they felt like hey we hold these people a little bit because we let this all go on and and but yeah israel's a sovereign nation now israel should be taking care of its own business i don't think israel dictates a lot to iraq or Iran or Saudi Arabia.
alex jones
Well, I think the argument is through the pro-war Israel lobby they do.
dr corey gold
Well, I mean, Saudi Arabia has a very strong lobbying group as well.
unidentified
No, no, no.
alex jones
I agree that Israel is not the only powerful lobby, but I mean, have you seen the Sharon quotes in the Jerusalem Post in places?
And that's one reason people get upset.
dr corey gold
Well, I've seen quotes from Obama that make me upset as well, and I've seen quotes from Bush that make me upset as well.
So if we're going to take isolated quotes, we can get everybody upset all day.
alex jones
Yeah. Alright, let's jam in another quick call here.
John in Ohio, go ahead.
john in ohio
Yeah, I hope you have on Ralph Schoenman.
He's written the monograph, The Hidden History of Zionism, or James Petras, James Petras on Global Research.
alex jones
I've had Schoenman on before.
He's an eloquent guy.
He's also basically a communist, and I don't like communists.
john in ohio
Yeah, well, you do a lot of red-baiting, but at the same time...
unidentified
John, you've called in and admit you're a commie.
alex jones
Don't try that mind control on me that I'm imagining commies.
john in ohio
Well, I've never belonged to any organization, but what I see...
alex jones
Do you believe in communism?
john in ohio
I believe that the workers should control everything rather than these elitist bankers.
alex jones
Just keep your hands off my property, John.
Bad stuff's gonna happen.
john in ohio
The trillions of dollars derivatives, I'm sure that you don't own those.
And that's the only people that are going to be suffering under any kind of...
alex jones
No, no, I agree with you.
That's fraudulent.
But listen, we only got a minute and a half with our guests.
Go ahead.
john in ohio
The point I'd like to make here is that Israel, the Zionist lobby in this country, has plenty of spokesmen.
It has people throughout the media.
In the latest government that dragged us into this war, many of them were dual citizens.
We have the same thing in the Obama administration.
This is a cutting of...
dr corey gold
John, John, what war are you talking about, John?
john in ohio
Make my point.
dr corey gold
John, what war?
You said dragged us into this war.
alex jones
He's talking about Iraq and Iran.
john in ohio
Yes, I'm talking about Iraq and Iran, and they are now at this point bringing nuclear weapons and threatening to use nuclear weapons against Iran.
This would be World War III.
And I think this is disgusting at this point that we need more of this kind of propaganda.
alex jones
John, we're almost out of time.
I'll have Mr.
Gold back up.
And let me just say this.
It's free speech.
It's different perspectives.
And to say that other people shouldn't have a...
Go ahead, Mr.
Gold.
dr corey gold
What I was saying is, if Israel wanted to start a war with Iran, they could do it any day they wanted to.
If Israel wanted to nuke Iran, they could have done it long ago.
So, just to say they want to do it, but haven't done it, is ridiculous.
If Israel wanted a war with Iran, there'd be a war with Iran.
They don't want a war with Iran.
Otherwise, we'd have one.
alex jones
Listen, is there a website you want to find out?
dr corey gold
No, I'm all cool.
I go to KSCO.com.
That's my radio station.
alex jones
KSCO.com.
Dr. Corey Gold, good talking to you.
dr corey gold
Thank you, sir.
alex jones
All right, we'll be back with Dr. John Coleman.
That was a heated debate, wasn't it?
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