Bob Chapman, Jason Bermas, Jesse Ventura, and Dr. Paul Craig Roberts dismantle mainstream narratives on 9/11, JFK, and the CIA's alleged rogue operations, citing Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's coerced confession and polls showing 84% public distrust. They condemn the erosion of civil liberties via suspended habeas corpus, compare domestic surveillance to Nazi Germany, and expose economic sabotage through offshoring and carbon taxes. Ultimately, the dialogue frames the U.S. as a "scientific dictatorship" preparing for global control, urging listeners to reject government lies and embrace survivalist preparedness against an encroaching New World Order. [Automatically generated summary]
And with all of that said, all of the groundwork, the seed work is there, along with the war, to cut all of these costs that the government doesn't want, and of course getting rid of older people, and lots of young people too in the wars.
We the people are going to step up to the plate and say no.
If we the people are going to declare that Ben Bernanke isn't truly the man of the year as Time Magazine propagates along with Hitler and others throughout history, while he tells us that we are going to be taxed to death and that we will no longer have the programs that our taxes supposedly paid for for all those years.
I want to encourage people to get out into the streets, to become more active, to not fall for the Johnny nonsense.
That is thrust upon you in the mainstream media of CNN, The Washington Post, The Washington Times, The New York Times, Fox News.
No, they're not good either.
They are still promoters of war and death.
If you can't see that, please look at those reporters and children being gunned down, judge, jury, and executioner from the sky style by our very own troops.
The people that are supposed to be defending this country from enemies.
Foreign and domestic.
I'm sorry, but reporters that are trying to tell the truth are not our enemy.
So please get out there.
Please spread the word.
Please get my latest film, Invisible Empire, A New World Order Defined, and Police State 4. I'm in Police State 4. You can see me at the G20, really getting down and dirty with the troops that shouldn't be on the streets in the first place.
None of them could even tell me what posse comitatus was.
Bob, these are people that were Anywhere from 18 to 19-year-old new recruits to 45 and 50-year-old colonels and generals, they could not tell me what posse comitatus was, Bob.
Invisible Empire chronicles how men of power and influence I believe first of all that we now need nothing short of a world constitution for the global financial system.
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So it's going to be an inner ruling elite and then everyone else.
Just like the Huffington Post censored your article about 9-11, even though they asked you to write it, now you're seeing censorship in the book world.
That's unheard of.
Four weeks, New York Times Top Ten, and no book reviews.
I just spoke earlier on another show, and they asked me why the mainstream media won't question the government.
And I said it's simple, because if they don't play along with the government, they get no access to them.
And if they're denied access to them, they're dead in the water.
So therefore, they go along to get along so that they can do their jobs and continue to have access with the senators, the congressmen, the president, and all that stuff.
Because if they question anything, they lose that access, which is the kiss of death.
Well, his television show got picked up for a second season record.
First season on TruTV, their number one news show.
We're going to talk about, because I keep getting these questions and I know Jesse's wondering, with all this censorship, with all this control, not one major news book reviewer will talk about his number four on the New York Times bestseller list, American Conspiracies, four weeks in the top ten.
So why is that being censored?
Why do I get censored?
But why is he allowed to have a TV show?
We'll talk about that some coming up today.
We'll talk about opium trafficking.
We'll get into a whole host of issues.
Pat Tillman, you name it.
But Governor Jesse Ventura, for those who just joined us, we started getting into Eight years of Iraq, or seven years of Iraq, eight years of Afghanistan, no end in sight, new wars, they're expanding, all this footage coming out of reporters being massacred, being targeted, children being gunned down by Apache helicopters, premeditatedly, all of that happening, and we were discussing during the break that this points out that the president isn't really the president, and doesn't have the power.
I really don't think he does, and what's really educated me, Alex, is I've been reading, I've read, I'm in the process of finishing my second book by Colonel Fletcher Prouty.
And I highly recommend both of them.
People need to read the Colonel's books.
He died in 2001, in June.
But if you read Fletcher Prouty's books, one of them's called The Secret Team, and the other one is called JFK.
X, the guy that Costner goes to Washington and talks to him on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial.
Then they sit on that bench and he lays the whole thing out.
Well, in real life, that was Colonel Leroy Fletcher Prouty, Colonel of the United States Air Force.
And for, I think, 11 or 12 years, he was the top man, the liaison between the Pentagon and the CIA.
And I can't tell people how much they need to read to understand.
And when you read Prouty's books, you will become much more clear on what's happening.
Because Prouty tells you in the books that the entire Cold War was a setup.
That there was a meeting that took place at the end of World War II. Right before we were going to, we technically were going to invade Japan like Normandy.
And then, of course, they dropped the two bombs and they didn't have to.
But in preparing for that invasion, they moved massive armaments into Okinawa.
Well, there was a meeting because Prouty flew in, Chiang Kai-shek.
That's what really resonated with me when I read Prouty's books.
I went, oh my god, the things he said here is exactly what has gone down.
The wars are fought in third world countries.
Oh, and remember them armaments that I told you they put in Okinawa?
Do you know what became of those?
No. They were split in half.
Half of them according to Colonel Prouty, half of them went to Korea, and half of it went to Ho Chi Minh.
setting up for the next two wars.
Now it follows through with all of this shit, excuse me from the radio, I shouldn't have said that, but all of this stuff in Afghanistan, Iraq, and all of it fits right into what Colonel Prouty talked about.
Well I'm chomping at the bit here and I want to sit back and shut up and you can tell us what you've learned, but this is what's so incredible.
I've known you for about four and a half years now and the process, you knew about Gulf of Tonkin, you knew about the lives of Vietnam, you were very well informed, you've been visited by the CIA when you were governor, but it's been a process of you reading and researching and now to see you, I interviewed Prouty, had to be like in 1997, we've been digging around looking for the tapes.
And I have read over his work.
I've read his first book, not the second one you're talking about.
And then you discover that Joe McCarthy was actually right, but he was being used to set up a police state domestically with low-level communists but as soon as he found out the pentagon was running everything remember that was what they said was so absurd then they set him up and destroyed him and use the term McCarthyism to demonize him but then it was declassified seven years ago or six years ago that the Russians said no it's true he was right and then you learn that the whole geopolitical system is a war against individual populations
and there was a deal with the Russians to build up their police state they would take over half the world the US would build up its police state Well, You know, the thing is now is this, Alex, I have the time to do it now.
You know, when you're being a governor or you're governing a state or you're working in that capacity, you don't have time to do any research because your day is full 24 hours a day, seven days a week, just doing your job.
And now I don't have that job to do anymore.
And living in Mexico, like I do for half the year, I read 15 to 17 books every winter down there.
And it's amazing how reading can educate you.
Something I think we're losing track of in this country.
It's amazing to see your development, and I'm not like on some mountain saying that, because I've noticed your discernment with issues getting into the whole conspiracy realm.
You go right to the best sources, the best documents, the best history, and it's just very exciting, Governor Ventura, to see you with a hit TV show, a best-selling book, and to really be one of the main leaders now of questioning our reality.
But I don't want to interrupt.
Go back.
Give people the name of the book again because I want to go buy it and read it.
Fletcher Prouty, on record, the head of black ops between the Pentagon and CIA.
He was sent away, you know, to the Arctic when they killed JFK.
He talked about how they pulled the security off, how it was a Pentagon black ops job.
We're going to play a clip from JFK coming up later, but take your time in the break with more of what you've learned and how you tie that in to all your other life knowledge.
Well, again, it's a case that, you know, Fletcher Prouty just, he lived through it.
And I enjoy reading what he knows about.
He's an exceptionally bright guy.
See, the other thing he shows very clearly, which tells you how Obama isn't really in charge, Prouty shows you that most of the politicians only learn of these events until they're already in motion.
They're set in motion by people in the government.
You know, people in the CIA at lower, you know, not the high level positions, but in the secondary positions, they're the ones that move forward on all this stuff.
The wars, all the dirty stuff that goes on.
So that by the time our elected politicians are briefed on it, this thing's already halfway to life.
It's already happening.
So they really, our politicians are playing catch up.
And that's what Prouty explains in that book, The Secret Team.
That's who the secret team is.
The secret team are these right under level government people who are literally running amok.
And there's nobody in control of them.
And, you know, the CIA has its own money now and own money sources.
So they can basically do anything they want.
And our president and the rest of them seem to be powerless to them.
And my whole point is, we have to come to the point as a nation to realize presidents come and go, but the secret teams run by the big Wall Street banks that set up the CIA, rule this country, and by extension, the world.
Man. At least that's the information that I'm arriving at.
It's not a nice arrival, but, you know, what can we do?
Well, I've been harping on it for about 12 years, Alex.
You can start by stop voting for Democrats and Republicans.
I don't care who you vote for.
Don't vote for them.
They're the problem.
They're not the solution.
And that's, you know, really, it gets to that.
Then, of course, you have to question, is the voting real?
Because with these electronic voting machines, they can be hacked into, so you've got to question whether your votes are actually legitimate even in this country anymore.
I sat through many hours of LBJ at his ranch outside Austin, Johnson City, a couple miles from where I sit, and McNamara, and McNamara is telling him what to do, and telling him they just staged the Gulf of Tonkin, and that this is what he's going to say at a press conference tomorrow, and Uh, the President's almost saying yes sir to him, and it's the same thing with Bay of Pigs.
They launched that without Kennedy knowing, and then blamed it on him when it failed.
Incredible. Jesse Ventura, always wise, always informed, but just to know that he is really on the fast track to the key to planetary control, it's all staged.
In the past it was.
There is a split between Russia now, it appears.
But in the past, all rigged, two empires carving up the world.
We'll be right back with Governor Jesse Ventura.
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Ladies and gentlemen, Tuesday, the 6th day of April 2010, Governor Jesse Ventura, an icon of true political independence in this country and worldwide, is our guest, and I'm really honored to have him and honored to count him as a friend.
He's a great guy, he's for real, and I want to get into how Did he get his TV show on air?
We talked about this last time and he marveled, but now we see the censorship of his book, no book reviews, even though it's number four on the New York Times bestseller list.
How did that happen?
We're going to talk about that in a moment, but first, Governor, I got an email from a lady saying, effective immediately, she's never listening to my radio show again because I played the gun pod footage from the Apaches killing these reporters, shooting these kids, laughing about it.
And then lying about it later, all these other massacre videos.
Here's the New York Times today.
U.S. forces horrifying Afghanistan cover-up.
Obviously, we're not saying the individual troops are all bad, but Pat Tillman went over there, found that it was a fraud, wrote letters home.
That's a show you should do.
I talked to some of his family.
They wouldn't come on air.
They believe it was a hit.
The evidence came out.
They did cover up the friendly fire.
They killed him up at point-blank range, three shots in the head.
I mean, as Fletcher Pouty wrote, and he ran black ops, We propped up the Soviets.
We set it all up.
It's staged.
It's eating our entire system.
Is it unpatriotic to criticize corrupt, illegal wars?
I would think that this country would have a little bit longer memory of the same type of affair took place in Vietnam, where you had the massacre at My Lai.
You know, people, and believe me, I'm not blaming the soldiers, I'm blaming the politicians.
Because it's ultimately their fault.
You know, war is the result of failed policy, failed politics.
And the end result is war.
And so when your politicians fail you, you go to war.
And because of their failure, they put our young men and women into these wars.
Well, what they did, of course, what they did is not good.
But let's remember something.
Some of these guys are on their fifth, sixth, and seventh tour over there.
They've been hardened now.
They've been changed.
They are not the same people that left.
Trust me on that.
And so war, there is nothing great and glorious about war.
War is the worst thing man's ever come up with.
And that's killing each other over what?
Political reasons, religion, whatever stupidity we might decide to go to war and murder each other over.
And so, no, you are not wrong in showing this.
Because what's wrong is sheltering people from it.
That's why these wars are going on, Alex, is because the American people have been sheltered.
The media is not portraying what's happening over there.
And they're not even showing the body bags when they come home.
Well you're absolutely right, and you talked about Fletcher Prouty who ran Black Ops in the Pentagon, that's on record the liaison to the CIA, and he's documenting how they made the decision at the end of World War II to attack third world countries, to divide them, to never have an outcome, so the armaments industries could make a lot of money and get a lot of power, and then we sit here and say that's exactly what Afghanistan and Iraq are.
We know this is the policy of divide and conquer.
We know they're turning our country into a militarized surveillance police state, and it's our right as citizens to say that we don't want to be part of these illegal wars that George Washington said that we shouldn't be involved in foreign wars.
But you talked about it being a failed policy, failed from our perspective, but if we know they're premeditated to be quagmires to make money, then it's not a failed policy.
You know, they say the war on drugs is a failure.
There's more drugs, more people in prison.
But for the big banks and the military-industrial complex, that's a success.
See, they were designed by Harry Truman to not set policy.
They were supposedly to be there only to provide information for the president.
And Alan Dulles, Proudy makes it very clear that Alan Dulles, and of course he's neck deep a member of the Warren Commission and all that on Kennedy, Alan Dulles is the one that created today's CIA.
This independent, rogue, outlaw state that is uncontrollable now even by our own government.
Because I have a Bloomberg report here in my stack where the federal government is telling private and public pension funds you must invest quote-unfailed banks and now they're getting ready to go after people's pension funds.
Are they trying to push the American people into some type of armed revolt?
Let's read this Bloomberg headline for folks that are doubting me.
Failed banks may get pension fund backing as FDIC seeks cash.
The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation is trying to encourage public retirement funds that control more than $2 trillion to buy all or part of failed lenders.
Assets taking on a more direct role in propping up banking systems.
And it talks about how the regulators are ordering them to do it.
Since when do regulators order private and public pension funds to be invested in the failed banks?
Well, I know they've been setting up for it and infiltrating.
I know they infiltrated these militias and set them up to create the illusion that there's about to be all this domestic terror, and I believe they're getting ready to stage terror attacks, Governor, to blame it on the American people, to use NORTHCOM against the American people.
What would you say to the American people if we see some terror attacks, they're blamed on the American people, and they start trying to use these different enemy combatant acts, belligerent acts, to start grabbing US citizens?
Well, you know, I think the first thing we need to do is this: I think we need to put huge pressure on the Obama administration to rescind the Patriot Act.
that's what the Belligerent Act states that John McCain's introduced and Lindsey Graham's supporting.
It says, for any intelligence reason or any direction of the president, citizens can be grabbed and given enhanced interrogation and never be seen again.
point. So I've said it now on your show, so everybody knows that if Jesse Ventura suddenly disappears, they'll know that I wouldn't do that, other than to go surfing in Mexico, and you know that I'll come back every spring.
Well, I tell you, that brings me to the next question.
I mean, as things heat up, as you become even more prominent, if that's possible, but you are, and as people's respect for you goes even higher, we need to take good care of you.
So watch out there aren't some frogmen out there when you're surfing that try to make you disappear.
Be careful.
Nope, you're strapping a sidearm or at least a spear gun when you're out there.
Well, I've talked to Anthony Schaefer, Special Forces Colonel Commander, and he talked about how the CIA wouldn't let him kill bin Laden two weeks before 9-11.
And he said that was being done because they already had contractors in the CIA with more power than the Army and the Navy, and that they basically are above the law and can do whatever they want.
Because, again, you know, we've been practicing terrorism for 50 years.
We just call it foreign policy.
You know, I mean, look at all the people we've tried to assassinate down in Central America.
That's not terrorism.
When you go in and attempt, just because a country has a different form of government than you have, what gives us the right to go into that country and attempt to assassinate their leader?
Well, if they tried it here, they'd be called terrorists.
I'm skipping this network break.
We got about nine minutes left with Jesse Ventura.
This is a network break.
We're skipping it, not station break.
Just word to everybody out there who's just joined us.
Infowars.com, PrisonPlanet.tv.
I want to encourage all the listeners to not procrastinate and get Jesse Ventura's American Conspiracies at Infowars.com.
You can get the book, $5 off the book and hardcover, and then get The film of your choice with the book when you get it.
That's how much I want you to read it info wars.com Governor we've only got about 10 minutes left with your nine minutes left, and there's so many other things I wanted to talk about with you Shifting gears into something just as serious because you are informing millions of people every week Your television show when is it going to be back on the airwaves?
Well, I'll tell you, for our little purse-string budget that we're on, we do a hell of a job.
Because, you know what I actually did in negotiations this year?
What? I was already locked in for the second season, so I couldn't negotiate money at all, but I could negotiate artistically.
I told my top agent at William Morris, I said, "Look, I want it in writing that this year we'll actually get a set of clappers for when we're out on the streets." You know what clappers are now, right?
Well, there are those little boards you see in Hollywood where you put it in front of the camera, what scene it is, blah, blah, blah, and then they clap, and that's the way you can separate all your shoots.
Well, we were so cheap in doing this thing, initially, we had to use our hands.
Yeah, to clap.
And so I told them, I said, look, the only thing I demand is that I want it in writing that we will have a clapper sent to all shoots.
And it was funny because my top agent at William Morris started laughing and he said, Governor, I can assure you, I'll take it out of our end.
I can't even venture a guess right now because, again, it'll depend on how many of them they want done and in the can and at what point are we at to finish up whatever is left before they – because once they make the decision to start airing them, I've got a feeling they're going to want to have the majority of them done so that they can air them weekly like they did.
last time, where 10 weeks in a row you will get a different conspiracy every week.
Well, I look forward to seeing you again in person.
You're so great, and so is your son and the whole crew.
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Governor Ventura, in closing, we got about three minutes left here.
Studying the New World Order, studying the global elite, studying these shadowy organizations, Well, I still don't know exactly who is.
Well, to me, the agenda is simple, and it seems clear to me.
Ever since 9-11, it's been an agenda to take away our freedoms.
Slavery. You can leave it right at that.
Slavery. The most dangerous thing I've seen that have come out of all of this crap in the last 10 years is the fact that they've suspended habeas corpus.
They've literally shredded the Fourth Amendment of illegal search and seizure.
Every person in America needs to understand that every phone call you make and every email you send, the government has the capability to be eavesdropping that.
Now, are they doing it to all of them?
Of course not.
But they have the ability and they have the assurance that they can do it because apparently our constant...
You know what's kind of interesting, Alex, is this.
I now understand why they eradicate marijuana.
Do you know why I can understand that?
Why? Because our Constitution Bill of Rights and the flag are all made of marijuana.
And so it doesn't surprise me that they want to eradicate marijuana because they're eradicating our Constitution, they're eradicating our Bill of Rights, and they've certainly eradicated the flag, in my opinion.
Governor, I'm going to say bye to you as soon as the show ends here in about 30 seconds, but I really want to thank you for coming on.
Congratulations for doing it your way, telling the truth, not compromising, getting a number one hit TV show on your network, number four on the New York Times bestseller list for the book, and people are waking up, and we've got a good chance of bringing down this new world order, and thank God we've got you on our team.
God bless you, Governor.
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of things he wants to talk about and why he is saying sayonara And then we're going to get into Volcker, carbon tax, VAT should be on the table, on top of the income tax.
We'll be discussing that with Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.
Well, Alex, you'd wanted me to explain why I was stopping Colum, and basically a bunch of things just came together.
One is, I'm just tired.
I've been trying to save the country all my life.
main thing is, though, I think I came to the conclusion that it's futile to about what's happening, to write about the wars and the police state, the lack of our civil liberties, as long as the event that set those in motion itself can't be analyzed.
And, of course, we're talking about 9-11.
So it dawned on me sites, of which I was sort of a favorite columnist, like Antiwar.com, Counterpunch, where I have the big following, neither site, for example, would let me
the evidence that the scientists who to have found nanothermite in the residue of the World Trade Center, that they wouldn't even let me report that there were 1,000 architects and engineers who had sent a petition to Congress demanding an investigation.
And so it made me realize that here were sites totally to the war, totally opposed to the police state and the loss of our civil liberties, sites who don't believe a word the government says about anything except 9-11.
I got to thinking, well, what is the point of this?
How can you oppose the government when you give it the grounds on which it's acting?
So I came to the conclusion that since 9-11, since it cannot be discussed, except, you know, in a few places like your site, since people believe that they were attacked by Muslims and that we have to have police state powers to protect us from more attacks, that really nothing can be done.
And so I said it's futile and pointless.
And then about that time I saw the latest poll that 59% of the Marine people, that's three-fifths of the population, are to go to war with Iran if they don't stop their peaceful nuclear program. And I got to thinking, well, how can people come to this conclusion?
They've been lied to about weapons of mass destruction, Al-K, everything.
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In fact, you know, if you just look, anybody that looks at the World Trade Center towers And anybody that looks at it for 15 seconds should be able to see the difference between a building that's falling down and one that's blowing up.
And so Americans can't even use their own eyes.
Do you see what I'm saying?
And then we have this fantasy figure, Sheikh Mohammed.
Now, you know, they said that bin Laden was responsible, but now it's Sheikh Mohammed, the guy they waterboarded 183 times until he finally confessed to being the mastermind of 9-11.
And if you look at this, it makes no sense, because at this guy's feet.
So you realize that you really just can't help people.
They can't think.
They can't see their own eyes.
Now, what also happens when you try to raise these questions with people, even intelligent people?
They say, oh, our government would never kill its own citizens.
Oh, yeah?
What about Waco?
The Branch Davidians.
There were 100 men, women, and children that the government murdered.
No one was ever held accountable.
But they say, oh, well, it was all the Branch Davidians'fault.
But the government would never have a plot like 9-11.
Well, what about Operation Northwoods?
Anybody can read about this.
This was a plan designed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Lyman Limitzer.
It was released by the Warren Commission after the Kennedy report.
It's available online.
It's available in the National Security Archives.
You can read about it on Wikipedia.
It's everywhere.
It was an official plot by the United States military and various black ops groups in the government to gun down American citizens in Miami, in Washington, D.C., blow up boats of Cuban
to fabricate crashed airliners, and to blame it all on Castro so they could invade Cuba.
This is a known thing that we were prepared to do.
And this was, you know, like 60 or more years.
This was, what, 40, 50 years ago when we allegedly were still somewhat of a freedom and democracy country.
And they were willing to do that then.
And Kennedy, of course, fired Limitzer.
And a lot of people believe that's why Kennedy was assassinated.
And then we have this very curious Murrow Office Building bombing, the Oklahoma City bombing, that was pinned on McVeigh with this truck bomb. Well, General Parton, who was head of Air Force Munitions, spent his life developing testing explosives for the Air Force.
He put out a very thick report in which he said that that building blown up from the inside out.
And it most certainly was not blown up by a truck bomb.
The truck bomb of that sort, 60 feet away, couldn't possibly have done the damage and produced the explosions and the structural damage to those reinforced concrete columns.
So here was a real expert who put it on the line.
It had no impact whatsoever.
He sent it to Congress.
He tried to talk to them.
It was just all deep-sixed.
So what you have is a situation where it's impossible for experts even to bring facts, not just to the public's attention, but to the attention of people in government who are supposed to be overseeing the government, such as the various congressional committees.
So when you have that type of a situation, you know, what has become of truth?
It simply disappeared.
You can't...
It hasn't...
It can't even get into the arena where material interests operate.
And so you have to ask yourself, what are these columns for?
The most absurd explanations and fantasies they accept as if they were actually real, and yet they're completely deaf to experts, to facts, and so you can't help them.
And so that's really the main reason I quit during the column.
I just came to the conclusion it was futile, and the people are just so gullible.
Well, Doctor, let me throw something in here, but I mean, we don't need to lose all hope.
It did take time to expose Oklahoma City.
Columns further back were blown off with blast points.
Then columns right up beside the truck, bomb that weren't even damaged.
Parton pointed that out.
The local news showed them removing the bombs.
The governor said there were unexploded bombs inside.
The BATF showed up and told medical workers, patch us up like we were here.
Minutes after it happened, lying, saying they were on the ninth floor.
Terrence Yakey, a local police officer that was a hero, carried people out, said it was all staged.
They murdered and tortured him.
Going back to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, backing you up there, he confessed to bombing buildings that weren't built till four years after he was incarcerated, and even the 100-plus water boardings wouldn't make him lie and say he ran 9-11.
So then they threatened to do stuff to his family, and that's mainstream news.
So finally, for his children, He confessed to it, but but it's a process and it was 5% Won the Revolutionary War or less and just because they do have a large portion of the public like Congressman Johnson from Georgia who believes that islands float and that they're gonna capsize if there's too many people on them That's I mean, you know a lot of dumbed-down people out there even in government It doesn't matter because your work and others work Uh, is really woken a lot of people up and I see a giant awakening happening.
I don't blame you for quitting a twice a week, uh, twice a week, uh, column, but I think that you've got a fighting spirit.
You should take some time off, but I believe that you're going to be back and that you're not going to be able to control yourself, even though you're 71 years old, because you have liberty and love of the truth beating in your breast.
And, you know, we can't give up.
We know things will be much worse if we weren't here speaking out today.
So I want to commend you for all your work, and I'm sorry that you were getting censored, but we'll continue going through the points you wanted to make.
The government represents the powerful moneyed interest groups that finance the political campaigns.
And so the people are really, even if we had them all, educated and aware which I don't think we short of arming themselves and rebellion no way they can impact or influence the government because paying attention to them could care less about the people I don't know what they think.
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I still think the people People are not aware of it.
They're insouciant.
And, look, think about the, we covered, you know, the, you know, the McVeigh, Oklahoma City bombing, 9-11, Operation Northwards, but just think about the Kennedy assassination.
I think when the black ops groups got away with that, that's what kind of sealed our fate.
And the liberals, let them get away with it.
of Kennedy, you see, The liberals had overcome the Eisenhower Republicans and were now going to use the government to do great things.
They were going to use the government to do great things for the American people and remake society and make it more fair and just and all of this.
So they couldn't possibly let it out that the government had killed the President.
So they concocted another fantasy story about how Oswald, with a worthless rifle, shot Kennedy from behind and killed him with a magic bullet that also wounded Connolly and did all kinds of improbable things.
And yet all the evidence is that Kennedy was hit from the right front temple, out the back of his head.
You can see that in the films that tourists took.
And you can see Jackie, his wife, crawling out on the trunk of the limo to recover the back part of his skull that you've just seen blown out from the front.
You know, the bullet hitting the front, blowing it out.
All these things are available.
And then they get this patch of Oswald, and before he can ever be questioned, Ruby is somehow with a gun inside a jail where he doesn't belong.
He has no right to be inside the jail, much less with a gun.
And he shoots Oswald inside the jail.
And yet people still fall for the Warren report, which has been disproved over and over and over and over by expert after expert after expert.
And yet we still have this sort of mythology of Oswald killed Kennedy.
And then even after all the evidence finally forced the Congressional Committee to look at it again, And you had all these witnesses who saw a gunman at the Grassy Knoll shoot.
And so what do they do finally?
issues the report, well, there was a second gunman, loner, another deranged loner.
So we have two deranged loners operating independently of one another, both decided to shoot Kennedy on the same day, same place.
Well, you know, they kind of, the conspiracy sort of, well maybe I don't remember it exactly right, but I thought the conspiracy kind of disappeared by the final conclusion that it was a second balloon.
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All right, going back to Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, we've been having very interesting discussions behind the scenes.
I want to get into the economy, but first going back to violent revolution.
They've now framed it that even if you defend yourself when CPS without due process is snatching your kid, DynCorp runs many of the systems in the states, convicted white slavery traffickers, that's Chicago Tribune AP.
if you resist them taking your farm, you're a terrorist.
They clearly have set up this system.
Now we have the Homeland Security internal documents where they admit Well, it's the police state.
That's been obvious since the, you know, like the second year of the Bush administration where we used to talk about I don't
The whole thing is set up to prevent any opposition from the population.
And it's like you say, they can now declare anybody to be a terrorist.
confiscate not just your life and rights, but all your assets.
So it's a police state.
People are not aware of this.
They still think the government is there to protect them in some way.
I get a lot of emails from people who are already suffering these types of intrusions.
They've read my book about how the law has been destroyed, and they wonder what they can do.
Of course, they haven't got any rights, so they can't do anything.
So, you know, I don't know how much of it is a plan with a direct goal in mind or how much of it is just the police agencies grabbing power.
And, of course, it doesn't much matter because under either system, we've lost rights. And it's very hard for people, even if they're organized and have weapons, to because the kinds of weapons the Police and military have.
I mean, you know, they have military weapons.
And so the kinds of weapons people have are feeble.
And now under NORTHCOM, we have the military everywhere conditioning the public at DWI checkpoints, at the Kentucky Derby, at football games, searching children, running checkpoints on the highways.
Right. An armed camp drilling and training to go after us.
Right. I want to cover one other issue before we get into the economy, Dr.
Roberts.
Have you seen the gun camera footage from three years ago in Iraq that WikiLeaks released a few days ago?
They said they've got scores of these videos they're going to be releasing where they are killing the people and shooting the kids in the minivan trying to get a wounded reporter off the street and then secondarily I get these emails, it's a minority of the emails, saying, how dare you criticize our troops?
This is a war.
Well, yeah, this is a war that was built on lies and WMDs.
We go invade the country, we kill over a million of them, and then there's this droning, brainwashed message that we've got to support the troops by keeping them in 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 tours and treating them like garbage when they get back.
And it's just this mindless supposed patriotism To worship tyranny.
It's very reminiscent of what happened to Nazi Germany.
talking to them is a waste of Well, it is arrested development.
They're very childlike.
Facts mean nothing.
And it's this petty power trip that they're part of the state.
They're part of the system.
They're winners.
But that very system is destroying their future as well.
And as you know, as someone who's researched history, once you get into one big lie, then it's a bigger lie, a bigger lie, and then things accelerate at the end.
And do you agree that we're now reaching that acceleration point where all of this preparatory slide into tyranny and corruption has seemed fast?
Well, the point I make is, all these people that dehumanize Iraqis, or Afghans, or others, or the Serbs, or the South Ossetians, they have to understand that 100% of the time in history, when you get sucked in by an imperial spirit of evil, and it's like a team spirit, once you do that, it's always visited on you.
It always comes back.
The system has a desire and they will carry it out on all of these people that have gone along with it.
And you've got all these...
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Exactly. Well look, what happened to Hitler's brown shirts?
First thing he did when he had real power was turn on the brown shirts and destroy them.
They were all killed, arrested.
Don't you remember that?
I mean, this is one of the key things in the Nazi history, that the brown shirts that marched through the streets for Hitler and, you know, attacked all the Jews, Kristallnacht, all of that stuff, all of this violent crowd.
And then, of course, the police have to prove that they're on the government side, and the way you do that, you're always producing new terrorists or new enemies of the people.
Or, you know, the KGB under Stalin, they used to have a lot of people who were in the You're And not just for parking tickets or speeding, but to just arrest people.
And federal marshals have come out and said they're meant to put people on terror list for no reason in the airports, and that there are quotas to create the perception that there are all these criminals.
Well, I agree with you, doctor, but there's a National Law Enforcement Think Tank Council, and Arne Saavedra takes blood without warrants, total police state, shuts down gun shows without any law, just thuggishly just does it under Fed control, and it turns out he was picked by the Feds from California, brought here, and is now the frontrunner for Dallas, and this secretive National Council is telling Dallas to hire him, and then if they do, federal funds come in.
they're coming up with these taxes because they have bankrupted the federal treasury and, of course, the states.
And this is endangering the dollar.
And if the dollar cracks, their power goes with it.
I mean, what would stop the American empire and its tracks would be the failure of the dollar as reserve currency, because what American power is based on.
It's not based on anything else.
It's based on the dollar as reserve currency.
So their bank bailouts and their wars have produced such massive deficits that they cannot be financed by world savings.
And so, I mean, even if the other countries were still willing to buy the treasury bonds, there's just not enough world savings to finance the United States government's deficit.
So they have the dollar in danger and their power is in danger, so they've got to find some new tax revenues.
And so that's what the value added tax is about because it's like a sales tax.
You can't avoid it except by not purchasing.
And if you don't buy anything, then you don't have to pay that tax.
Now, the carbon tax, in my opinion, is just another charade that the corporations came up with because it lets them buy and sell the right to pollute.
So they can turn environmental damaging action pollution into a profit-making venture.
They have a term for it, command destruction, and it vertically integrates the economy, accelerates the power of the super-rich, but destroys the engine of wealth development.
But when you look at Maurice Strong in 1992, and you look at what all these other environmentalists have said, and you look at the head of NASA Climatology, he says, it is our job, this is a credo, a maxim, to destroy the industrial society.
I'll see if I can twist your arm for another five, because I realize this is one of our last interviews with you, at least for a long time.
You said you wanted to come on on Tax Day.
That was a great idea.
So we'll look forward to seeing you next week.
But, uh...
We're going to come back.
I'm going to try to give you the floor because you're talking about such important things.
Your knowledge is so great.
We'll also tell people about your newly published book if people want to learn more.
We'll be right back.
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And it also then discusses the whole hoax of free trade, the free trade cloak for offshoring.
Offshoring is not free trade.
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It's labor arbitrage.
And I also discuss the failures, the most impressive failures in economic spirit.
And the games that economists play to hide the defects in their models that are helping us move along the road to economic Armageddon.
So it's all written in very accessible languages.
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And essentially anybody can read it and follow it.
It certainly is a good offset to the kind of disinformation that they get from the financial news.
Well, you know, there's no doubt that the United States is on a hegemonic path.
It wants to be the world hegemon.
You know, you approach it various ways.
the New World Order and the planned world government and so forth, but there's no indication whatsoever that Russia China is on this path and would go along with it.
And so the question is, what does the United States government do about Russia and China?
obstacles to American domination of the world.
And now Russia is relatively weak, but it has an unlimited number of nuclear missiles that can blow us up many times over.
And, of course, the Chinese economy now is, in terms of industry, manufacturing, it greatly surpasses the United States economy.
I mean, there's steel production, for example.
There's many times ours, there's heavy equipment, there's manufacturing, advanced technology.
We're a second-rate economy compared to Chinese industry and manufacturing.