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Mainstream media.
Government cover-ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
March 2nd, 1836, Texas Independence Day.
We have the Republican gubernatorial primary kicking off.
Today with Deborah Medina, Rick Perry, Kay Baby.
We'll watch what happens there, but Medina's strong showings already gotten national attention for other constitutionalists to run as Republicans or Democrats for that matter.
We'll be covering it coming up later in the broadcast day and opening the phones up.
Ray McGovern, former top CIA analyst to Ronald Reagan and George Bush senior, will be joining us to talk about Government-sponsored terrorism in the Middle East.
The Good Terrorist.
Terrorists that get caught blowing things up for the West, and our media calls them the Good Terrorist.
Also, serious saber-rattling going on by Israel and Iran.
Open talk of war.
John Kerry travels to Israel and tells Israel, don't attack Iran.
Mike Rivero joining us in the next hour with his once a month visit.
We'll be live at PrisonPlanet.tv for three hours today, second, third, and fourth hour.
And then Brad Martin will be joining us.
They were up in Oregon and got the police BATF visit.
They took their, not even BB guns, their airsoft.
They shoot little soft plastic pellets and the ATF has no jurisdiction, but they don't care.
That is coming up for 30 minutes later in the third hour and wide open phones, completely wide open phones in the second and fourth hour today.
Again, we'll open the phones up next hour and then again in the fourth hour to talk about whatever issues you wish.
On the economy front, jobless rate climbs 12% in the last two weeks.
Wow! 12% increase in people losing their jobs.
In the last two weeks, in real unemployment, it's around 22% according to all the private indexes that are out there.
So you add this to it, boy, that is amazing.
Also, oil gains to around $79 a barrel amid mixed U.S. data.
You have world currencies declining in tandem through a coordinated effort of the private parasitic central banks that run our globe and the New World Order.
And so, of course, you see gold surging to a six-week high, and gold futures rose today as well, pushing prices on the precious metal to the highest in six weeks as the U.S. dollar declined, increasing the appeal of gold as an alternative investment.
We told you this will be short-lived, gold going down.
It's a buying opportunity.
And they may push it down again.
But if you look at the overall trend of gold the last decade, it is up Up, up, up, up and away!
Because currencies are being debased.
It is a law of economics and currencies and commodities.
Meanwhile, in Alabama and other states, they're reporting they can't hire enough local census workers.
People don't like doing it.
Even though they need jobs.
They don't like going to people's doors and threatening to arrest them if they don't answer questions about their toilet, their stocks and bonds, their light bulbs, their firearms.
All violations of the Fifth Amendment.
The police can't make you answer questions and a census worker sure can't do it.
In fact, I may want to have a space later during Open Phones for just census workers to call in and to talk about what they think of their job.
And if they enjoy it, or people that have been harassed by census workers.
We'll see if that happens.
We have time to do that.
Medicare payment reductions worry doctors, patients.
This is out of Bay News 9. And I saw similar reports across the country.
Massive 21% reduction in Medicare and Medicaid payments.
See, they're already just slashing, even though they can't pass the health care bill, to slash.
The banks have to get all the money.
All your tax money has to go to them.
Continuing, I saw a case of censorship today.
I saw a case of censorship today dealing with an article on Blogspot dealing with Larry Silverstein.
That is coming up and a lot of other important news straight ahead.
More reports of, well, we'll cover when we come back.
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Number two, our new energy czar wants to control how much power your electric company allows you to have.
It's true.
Total government control of electricity in the name of smart grid technology is coming.
In some areas of the country, the power grid is dangerously overloaded.
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alan watt ▲ ● ▼
As we're finishing off this agenda We're pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.
john perkins ▲ ● ▼
Tremendous influence on our president and Congress and they really are calling the shots.
jesse ventura ▲ ● ▼
I think it's incumbent upon all of us as American citizens to pay attention.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
Full of the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation.
The criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.
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Tim Geithner?
Bernanke? They're arsonists!
They're asking for more matches!
And the Congress is saying, who do we make the checkout to?
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Today seems like nobody does care.
And right now in Washington, D.C., we have seen a fall of the republic.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
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Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
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We're going to be breaking down all the different major economic indicators that show that the economy, not just of the United States, but of every western nation, is in systemic designed freefall.
Here's just one of the reports.
House Majority Leader says Greek debt crisis can happen here.
The United States must embrace a blend of tax increases and spending cuts to rein in its deficit or face a potentially crippling debt crisis like the one in Greece.
Yes, all the money must be paid to the bankers.
We must raise your taxes.
We must cut your supposed benefits.
Like a third world nation, everything has to go to the bankers.
The top U.S. lawmaker warned yesterday.
It's enough to look across the Atlantic at Greece's extreme economic crises and understand it can happen here.
If we don't change course, it will happen here, said Democratic House Majority Leader Hoyer.
Hoyer, a close White House ally, said Democrats and Republicans in the U.S. Congress must take the politically tough Decisions, yes, following their banker master's orders to deflate the ballooning U.S. deficit and tackle record high U.S. debt.
And they have all these articles in the Washington Post, the Washington Times, everywhere else that I've looked, explaining that Americans are greedy, bad people and that Americans don't like the government.
But why?
Why are they complaining?
They're getting record amounts of money.
The American people are getting more money than they are paying in taxes.
No, we're not.
The offshore banks are getting almost all of it, along with the military-industrial complex and the ballooning federal and state bureaucracies.
At every level, government's growing.
And they'll pull a few stunts like, in California, teachers have to work one day a week free, and DPS workers have to work one day a week free, and yes, we're going to shut down part of some national parks, and we're not going to fill potholes.
See? We need more taxes.
No, they need to stop giving trillions of dollars a month, a month to private offshore banks that created this scam.
But they're already positioning it.
Oh, we're going to have a depression.
We're a year and a half after the bailout.
We need more bailouts.
We need to let the bankers set up a constitution of the bankers.
Worldwide, a world government.
They've got to call the shots, but don't worry.
The bankers say they're going to fix the economy.
They've got a plan.
It's called Green Jobs.
You lose two jobs for every job it creates, and they give the money to select cronies.
It's a wonderful thing, and it'll shut down more power plants.
Put more taxes on businesses and we're going to harass all the farmers and ranchers that are barely holding on by their fingernails and this is going to be great in China and India and everybody else in the third world and first developing world.
They don't have to make any cuts but we do and then this is our plan and it's going to be great.
Meanwhile, jobless claims up 12% in the last two weeks.
CNN reports the number of Americans filing for initial unemployment insurance surged to just below the 500,000 level last week.
That's 500,000, ladies and gentlemen.
That's a month.
And have climbed more than 12% over the past two weeks, the government said Thursday.
And these are cooked numbers.
They don't count you as unemployed once you're off the unemployment rolls and have been refused after six months to a year.
And they don't count the underemployed.
There were 496,000 initial job claims filed in the week ended February 20th, up 22,000.
From a revised 474,000 the previous week.
Amazing. The Labor Department said in a weekly report the prior week there were 442,000 claims.
Excuse me, I read that wrong because last year you would see around 500 to 600,000 a month losing their jobs.
Excuse me, I misread this.
They are now losing 496,000 a week.
See, my mind tends to underestimate things.
People think I exaggerate.
Generally, when I make mistakes, my brain plays tricks on me and I underestimate it.
An article will say the bank's just got another two trillion and I'll say two billion because I just, the mind cannot process this.
So excuse me.
What is 4 times 496,000 in a month?
That is just shy of 2 million jobs.
What is that like?
1,800,000 and something thousand jobs.
1,800,000 plus jobs lost In just the last month?
1,800,000?
Oh. This is unspeakably bad.
That's got to be nudging real unemployment up to 25%?
Or close to it?
I mean, in the depths of the depression it was 30%.
I mean, this is unbelievable.
And back in 2006, we passed the Rubicon and had a higher debt ratio than even in the depths of the depression.
You like globalism?
You like NAFTA and GATT?
Well, they're saying, don't worry, we got the next phase of globalism.
It will get you out of the depression.
Oil gains to around $79 amid mixed U.S. data.
As commodities begin surging, gold reaches six-week high.
Gold futures rose on Tuesday, pushing prices on the precious metal to the highest of six weeks as the U.S. dollar declined, increasing the appeal of gold as an investment instrument.
Gold for April delivery rose $4.30 to $1,122.30 in earlier-touched $1,125.50 Continuing, to 80.607 from 80.753 in late North American trading last night.
here's just an article out of St. Petersburg, Florida.
And it mirrors what we're seeing all over the nation and all over the world for that matter.
We're all under the same group's control.
Medicare payment reductions worry doctors and patients.
March begins with a financial blow for doctors.
We're facing a major reduction in Medicare payments.
The 21% reduction is the result of what some say is an outdated reimbursement formula from the 1990s.
Over the years Congress managed to waive the deficit reduction measure, but legislatures Failed to repeal it last week so 21% cut in the payments with With funds that are absolutely Essential in Medicare and the news just continues on From there.
I just want to mention this before I run out of time because Ray McGovern's coming up here in about 15 minutes.
I Was surfing around on the internet, or internets as Bush would say, this morning.
And I tried to go over to a Blogspot article headlined, Will Larry Pullet Silverstein...
Will Mr. Larry Pullet Silverstein, did you commit insurance fraud on 9-11?
And it's a pretty good article.
But I noticed when I tried to go to the link to the Blogspot, it said, this is a message.
In fact, I sent that to you, Jaren.
Did you get the message out?
May not have been clear.
I wanted you to print the message that they put up on Blogspot first, or maybe try to go to this from an outside link.
And it says on there that Google has listed this as possibly dangerous information.
Are you sure you want to go to this?
And then you go to it, and it's an article about Larry Silverstein getting all this insurance in the World Trade Centers, and Building 7, The fact that he got a record insurance policy and a double insurance policy and how suspicious the whole thing is and how on a hundred and fifty million dollar investment he made over nine billion.
And no, no, no, you can't go to that or you better be careful when you go to that because it's so dangerous.
It's so evil.
Just another example of more and more attempts at internet censorship and intimidating people away from alternative information that are going on.
Coming up later in the broadcast, Supreme Court waives Chicago's strict gun ban.
Justice is here, Second Amendment case, right to have a gun at home.
But it says that Handgun Control Incorporated and others and the Justice Department are hopeful because they think the Supreme Court is going to rule, okay, you have a right to own firearms in Chicago and New York where they're basically banned for the general public, unless you make lucrative payments to the sheriff, who will then, in a few cases, let you have a concealed weapons permit.
Mainly Goldman Sachs employees that came out of the ones that get it.
In some cases, they pay more than $30,000 in campaign donations to get just one.
It's like buying a nice new car.
But they say, oh, the court, though, is set, probably, we're thinking, according to court watchers and experts, to rule, yes, you have an individual right, but we have a right to restrict that right.
So more Orwellian doublespeak.
And then, Last week, I saw a report out of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.
The presiding Chief Justice said it was a total police state, end of the Fourth Amendment, that police can now go into your house without a warrant, without even having suspicion that a crime has been committed.
And that dovetails with a Seattle Times article today.
courage.
Curbs on border searches of cell phones, laptops of U.S. citizens.
And the L.A. Times had an article last week we covered where they mainly focus on citizens, business people, and now foreign governments are doing this as well, and sometimes they keep your laptop for six weeks or longer, your cell phone, and they take it and they download everything off of it and then say, on your way, no Fourth Amendment, no nothing, and it says here that the U.S. Customs and Border Protection says, yes, we don't need any suspicion of wrongdoing.
It says, without first establishing suspicion of wrongdoing.
And the precedence they set in airports and on the border are what they then roll out in the general public.
So, just rapidly becoming a bona fide, certified, five-star total tyranny.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼
Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.
This is our last chance to not relive history.
alan watt ▲ ● ▼
As they're finishing off this agenda, they'll be pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.
john perkins ▲ ● ▼
We have tremendous influence on our president and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.
jesse ventura ▲ ● ▼
I think it's incumbent upon all of us As American citizens to pay attention.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
For the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation.
The criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.
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Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists!
They're asking for more matches!
And the Congress is saying, who do we make the check out to?
g edward griffin ▲ ● ▼
Today seems like nobody does care.
And right now in Washington DC, We have seen a fall of the Republic.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
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A Texas poll up on PrisonPlanet.com reports Ron Paul approval rating 84% in his district.
So much for him not representing the people.
And they've had the Republican Party running three neocons against him.
But he's set in the poll to get 74% of the vote in today's, well, in the upcoming primary contest.
And in the overall poll, he has an 84% approval rating.
Now, anti-New World Order, anti-global government, anti-private Federal Reserve, anti-any gun control laws, anti-abortion, pro-control the border, 84%.
There is no other Texas elected representative that I've ever seen with a number like that.
See, we are the majority.
We have the common sense approach.
We know what the people want.
And because Ron Paul has been able to get his message out, he has an 84% approval rating.
The government overall has a 8% approval rating.
8% versus 84%.
Meanwhile, we have Democratic and Republican leaders and Glenn Beck and others all over television saying that we must have massive tax increases to pay the bankers off or they will shut us down like Greece.
Will we continue to be held hostage by these people?
And that's what NORTHCOM and Homeland Security are publicly for, is to suppress the American people.
It's not for folks with brown skin, wearing turbans, living in caves on mountaintops.
That is used to sell you on the initial Patriot Act.
And now, Obama, Sunday night, reauthorized the U.S.A.
Patriot Act and didn't pull out any of the provisions that are used in non-terror related cases.
Bipartisan tyranny.
Bipartisan corruption.
And the naked body scanners are going in everywhere.
There's massive resistance to it, but the establishment, just like they're breaking a horse, is forcing it through.
Public schools are watching their pupils at home via government-issued laptops.
The ATF is raiding toy shops that sell legal BB guns that shoot plastic pellets.
It doesn't matter if major polls or the average person doesn't want their water fluoridated, the federal government will spend millions lobbying to get even small towns to put it in.
It is truly a sick joke.
And the list of corruption just goes on and on.
We have a government trying to force young girls to take Gardasil shots on record that hurt them and kill them in many cases.
Trying to force nurses and police to take swine flu shots and it comes out the whole thing's a fraud.
We just have to get the message out to everybody that we have a lawless, illegitimate government.
And if we don't say no, it's just going to get worse.
And before the break, I was getting into this article out of the Seattle Times today.
No curbs on border searches of cell phones, laptops.
In the last year and a half, civil liberties groups and business Travel leaders have complained about U.S. border agents' broad authority to search and seize laptops.
Well, the TSA does it, too.
And other electronic gadgets carried by travelers.
iPhones, cell phones, laptops, home pilots, and they just download it.
The material.
They just seize it.
Say, good day, goodbye.
But new information details the extent to which this has happened.
Debate over the searches picked up steam in July of 2008 when the federal officials, not servants, officials issued a policy directive that makes clear that agents at airports and borders can look into your electronic devices without first establishing suspicion of wrongdoing.
In 2006 at Bilderberg in Ottawa, they grabbed our three laptops and downloaded their full contents and kept us for 15 hours screaming at us.
In a recent nine-month period, U.S. Customs and Border Protection Searched and seized 1,644 devices.
And that's just when they filled out paperwork on it.
It's much worse than that.
In a recent nine-month period, U.S. Customs and Border Agents searched and seized 1,644 devices from travelers entering and leaving the United States, according to data the American Civil Liberties Union obtained through a lawsuit.
The most common target?
Cell phones!
Of those searched or seized, Devices, 582 were cell phones, 398 were laptop computers, and 259 were digital cameras.
The rest included MP3 players, flash drives, hard dives, DVDs, and other devices.
Let me read this to you again.
They take your electronic devices without first establishing suspicion of wrongdoing.
No Fourth Amendment in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.
Last week, it's now a week and a half ago, ruled that police don't need warrants to come in your house and need no suspicion.
And all over the country, from Boston to Chicago to Dallas, they're doing knock and talk, demanding to come in and look at your guns without warrants.
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The Empire's on the run.
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I think it's incumbent upon all of us Today seems like nobody does care.
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OK, for the next 25 minutes, we're joined by Ray McGovern.
Really doesn't need much of an introduction here.
He's a retired CIA officer, political activist, who writes and lectures all over the country.
He's also an author and researcher, writes articles for Counterpunch and many other great publications.
He is co-founder of Veterans Intelligence Professionals for Sanity.
Of course, he famously grilled and shut down Rumsfeld when he was lying, saying he never said WMDs were in Iraq.
And of course, Ray McGovern Also has been exposing a lot of the things that the government's been doing, some of the staged crises that they use to expand wars and tyranny.
And I wanted to get him on on a host of issues today.
Ray, good to have you back with us.
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Thank you, Alex.
Good to be with you.
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So much is going on, but out of the gates before we get into terrorists working for our government, staging attacks overseas, open discussions of Uh, assassinating U.S. citizens abroad.
Uh, Barack Obama, you'd been hopeful that there would be a shift away from the neocons.
Now we hear continued talk of new wars, expanded wars, uh, continuing torture.
He reauthorized the Patriot Act.
Uh, who is Barack Obama?
Are you disappointed?
who's really running the White House?
ray mcgovern ▲ ● ▼
That's a good question.
Who is Barack Obama?
I did have some expectations which have been dashed.
I'd home in on the Middle East right into the Israeli-Arab dispute, the conflict there.
He offered some hope that he would take a more realistic view.
As a matter of fact, major speech.
He said, Israel, no more settlements on the occupied territories.
No ifs, sins, or buts.
No more settlements.
And Netanyahu took his thumb and his other fingers and, you know, thumbed his nose at Barack Obama and said, oh, yeah, by the way, we've stopped working on this little part of East Jerusalem, but now we're...
We're going to do a new settlement on this hill or that hill.
So, for Barack Obama, after a year in office, to tell, I guess it was a Time reporter, in this plaintive tone, gee, you know, I didn't think that the Arab-Israeli thing was so intractable.
They both are so stubborn.
It's as though he has no leverage, you know?
$3 billion a year from your tax money and mine that they give to Israel every year.
That doesn't give any leverage.
Give me a break.
So my major fear right now, Alex, is that Netanyahu has to look on this Obama character as a real wuss, you know, a real captive of the Israel lobby in this country.
And so what's to prevent Netanyahu from starting a war with Iran with the full expectation that Congress will, We'll vote, as it usually does, 492 to 3 in favor of, you know, defending our, quote, ally, and I use quotation marks because an ally is a country with which another country has a defense agreement.
And there is no mutual defense agreement between Israel and the United States.
And that's more than just a technicality that does not oblige us to go to war.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
Well, Ray McGovern, you were one of the chief analysts in the morning briefer for Ronald Reagan, George Bush Sr.
I mean, if you were there sitting in front of the president today, i.e.
the American people you're speaking to right now, what's the word with all your intelligence sources and also just analyzing the full spectrum?
We see Ahmadinejad saying they plan, Israel plans to attack in the spring or summer.
We see the communist Chinese saying, you know, they're basically girding for conflict.
With the United States, we see Russia now becoming more and more angry at what the West is doing.
We see John Kerry dispatched to Israel in a speech to say, look, don't attack.
Let us just do crippling sanctions.
What are the chances they are going to launch a war?
What will it look like?
Are we in real danger right now?
ray mcgovern ▲ ● ▼
It all depends, in my view, Alex, on how Anishinaabh and his cohorts there in Tel Aviv view Obama.
The incredible traveling back and forth between Washington and Tel Aviv, you have the CIA head, you have the National Security Advisor, you have the Defense Secretary, you have the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
You know, it never stops.
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ray mcgovern ▲ ● ▼
Well, you know, it seems to me that what's happening is what happened a year and a half ago when Admiral Mullen, just named Joint Chief of Staff Chairman, went to Israel and he said, look, we don't want a war with Iran.
So stop listening to Elliott Abrams and Dick Keeney.
I'm the head of the U.S.
Armed Forces, and I don't want you to provoke war.
Now, listen to me.
Listen to me.
I'm a naval officer.
Okay? I know what happened on June 8th, 1967, when you tried to sink one of our ships, okay?
That's not going to happen again, so don't even think of it!
Now, that was amazing, Alex, because that was the first time any senior statesman, any senior military officer ever raised the USS Liberty incident with the Israelis.
He read of the Riot Act, and it worked at a time when Cheney and Bush were And the other thing that helps, of course, in those days was the sensible U.S. intelligence estimate that said, and most people forget this, the estimate said, yeah, Iran had been working on the weapons part of a nuclear program up until the fall of 2003 and then they stopped.
And we say that with great confidence.
Now, whether they've resumed between 2003 and 2007 when the estimate came out, Well, Ray, I saw that in the paper when it happened, and I don't want to just glaze over it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
That's an important point you raised a few minutes ago that I'd really kind of forgotten about.
It had gone in the memory hole.
That Admiral Mullen, and I saw it in the Jerusalem Post, said, don't stage an event like the USS Liberty.
I mean, that was an amazing statement by a top military officer of don't launch a false flag.
And I remember you almost four years ago on this show saying, I think Cheney will try to stage a Gulf of Tonkin near the Strait of Hormuz.
And then a year and a half later, it came out that right around that time, Cy Hirsch reported at MSNBC, it was confirmed, wanted to have US Navy SEALs attack US destroyers.
As a staged provocation.
Looks like they only did the fake radio transmission, but that wasn't enough, and the Admiralty, as it goes, didn't bite, and Fox Fallon didn't bite on it.
So flesh that out for people in layman's terms, what it means to have a top military officer go to the Israelis and say, look, don't stage an event.
ray mcgovern ▲ ● ▼
Well, it's good that you pointed out Cy Hirsch's reporting, because he also reported that Dick Cheney had proposed, and I don't know how far this got, but proposed painting PT boats or these swift boats with Iranian colors and having them dropped off by the Israelis in the Persian Gulf and created an incident that way.
So all this is very real, and the distinction I would make between what Mullen did a year and a half ago and what he did just last, well, two weeks ago is this.
Now he's sounding like, please, please don't start an attack.
It wouldn't be good.
An attack is on the table.
Never mind, Alex, that it's, you know, a war crime to attack a country that hasn't attacked you or has no capability of attacking you.
It's still on the table, but please, pretty please, you know, it would really be nice.
So the tone has changed.
It's not a kind of a forward look.
We know what you're up to.
Don't even think of it.
Now it's, we know what you're up to, but please, please, this would really create quite a mess.
And so that disconcerts me.
I mean, that really worries me because, you know, Mullen has been pretty...
when he had Fallon out there also, then, you know, things were pretty hard-nosed.
The military does not want to get involved in a war with Iran because they know it would be a catastrophe.
At the end of this article I wrote, you know, I compared Iraq and Afghanistan.
You know, in light of a war with Iran, well, Iran would make So what's the word in Washington with all your sources?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
I mean, clearly they're trying to sell a war.
We see it all over the newspapers.
It's being pushed.
I mean, what are the chances, statistically, or dead reckoning, that they are going to launch an attack?
What will that attack look like, and what will the aftermath be?
ray mcgovern ▲ ● ▼
Well, I would not exclude the Israelis doing what they did on the 9th of June, 1967, the day after the attack on the USS Liberty.
That's when they went up on the Golan and took the Golan Heights from Syria.
And why do I compare that to these days?
Well, the U.S.
ambassador, the people in Washington, all over the Israeli leaders say, no, no, okay, all right, you took the side, you took off.
Please, please, don't go up on the Golan.
That would get you involved in the war.
Don't do that, okay?
And, of course, they had a great intention of doing that.
And one of the reasons, I believe, that they tried to sink the Liberty, it's because the Liberty was in a position to intercept communications, without which the Israelis couldn't do Golan, okay?
So they were sure the U.S.
was going to find out about it.
And, therefore, they would nip it in the bud there by taking a ship.
In any case, the situation is very similar now, because there's no guarantee that the Israelis won't go ahead with the full expectation that a lopsided vote in Congress and in the administration.
I mean, look who's running the place.
It's Rahm Emanuel.
Now, to his credit, you know, he's a very patriotic guy.
And you know, when the balloon went up in the first Gulf War, he immediately rejoined the army.
Most people don't realize that it was the Israeli army that he joined.
And for all I know, he's still a reservist in the Israeli army, probably in intelligence.
Now, he's running the White House.
Give me a break!
So we have a bunch of people who, as I said before, have great difficulty distinguishing between what they believe to be the strategic necessities of Absolutely, passionate attachments of one country to the perceived needs of another.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
Absolutely.
when he was of course first president.
They burned effigies of him all over the country.
The French tried to foment a rebellion in the U.S. because he would not authorize a new war against the British.
He said, no, we want our independence and our freedoms, not to be in an imperial alliance with the French.
And these entangling alliances are not what we need to do.
And that's what built America.
But what's wrong with Israel?
I mean, I'm no geopolitical wizard, but I can look at the pieces.
It really isn't in Israel's They know Iran doesn't have nukes.
Iran even tried to buy the uranium for the power plants from France a few months ago, which proves it wasn't to be used in weapons.
Why does Israel want to attack Iran?
ray mcgovern ▲ ● ▼
It's the last bastion of support for people who, in Israel's eyes, endanger the state of Israel.
It is true that Iran affords a lot of help to Hamas and Gaza and Hezbollah in Lebanon.
Now, these have been branded terrorist organizations by the U.S., but they're mostly so popular because they help the common people, the poor people, and they do have terrorist wings.
Now, these terrorists can wreak havoc on Israel, and that's why Israel is doing all this preemptive stuff, including killing 14,000 Gaza, mostly civilians, at the turn of a year ago.
So Israelis would like to take advantage of the opportunity to raise this, what shall we call it, this pretext of Iran becoming close to a nuclear weapon, to do in the regime there, and to make Iran the kind of basket case that they succeeded in getting the Bush administration to make Iraq,
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
And we've seen a lot of different breakdowns by analysts of what will happen if Iran is attacked.
All of the scenarios are bad, but they go from bad to worse.
Briefly, what will happen if Iran is bombarded?
ray mcgovern ▲ ● ▼
One of the things they'll do, and this will hurt most Americans, is mine the Straits of Hormuz.
And, you know, through that strait, the Straits of Hormuz, go, I think, 40 percent of the exported oil to the rest of the world.
So you talk about Japan, China, talk about some really interesting and powerful countries that will be affected by this, not to mention U.S.
people at the gas pump.
Admiral Mullen was asked two and a half years ago, well, couldn't the Iranians blockade the strait there?
And he swore it hard, and he said, yeah, they could.
But we could take it back within three days, probably.
Well, right.
How are you going to take it back, Admiral Mullen?
You're going to send the Marines to scale those cliffs?
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ray mcgovern ▲ ● ▼
You're going to take them out of Afghanistan?
There aren't any Marines to send them.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
And the Iranians aren't the Iraqis.
I mean, they really are going to have focused, sustained counterattacks.
And from what I've read, all they've got to do is not mine it.
They'll sink a bunch of ships there, and you're not going to get that out in a month.
ray mcgovern ▲ ● ▼
Sure, they could do that.
You know, they have all these little boats with rocket launchers on them, and they have coastal defense things that won't quit.
These big U.S.
ships in the Persian Gulf are sitting ducks, frankly.
They're not, if I were the head of the Navy, I'd get them the heck out of there and not make What is it?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
13,000 sunburned missiles that can hit all our ships?
We'll be right back with Ray McGovern.
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Fifteen minutes into the next hour, Ray McGovern will leave us.
We'll do the rest of the hour live at PrisonPlanet.TV with Mike Rivero.
Ladies and gentlemen, I've seen all these big statements out of the State Department and many others that this is one of the most critical times in world history in the last 200 years.
Henry Kissinger has said that.
Everything is coming together like a perfect storm, like we saw in the lead-up to World War I and World War II.
The world economy is plunging.
The banks are looting.
They need a political distraction like a war.
Israel wants a war.
You have all that coming together in a perfect storm.
How do we avert this?
We were finishing up with Ray McGovern on the subject of what Iran would do.
Certainly, Ray, they wouldn't stop just with closing the Strait of Hormuz, would they?
ray mcgovern ▲ ● ▼
No, I think that I think?
could do the same in Afghanistan.
They could shoot a couple rockets into Israel, and some people believe that they could destroy the Israeli weapons reactor in Dimona.
So, you know, the Israelis can't be really clear about what would happen unless they enlist the U.S.
to be at the ready if and when they decide to attack.
I think that a lot of their concern, though, even the Israeli concern, is kind of like a synthetic one, it's manufactured concern.
They're whipping up this hysteria, even though the Iranians' poor souls are having all kinds of trouble trying to enrich their uranium, even to work in a nuclear reactor for electricity.
They're whipping up this hysteria because it's something that the U.S. citizens can be sold on, just like before Iraq.
Now, one of the things that's really curious is, here's Hillary Clinton, our Secretary of State, out there in Doha, out there at the That's good.
you know, how is it a threat?
Well, if it got one nuclear weapon, you know, it would be a real threat to, an existential threat to Israel, which only has between 200 and 300 deliverable by rocket, by under the sea, by naval aircraft, you know, you name it, deliverable in all kinds of ways.
So it's a real stretch, you know, despite The, you know, the paranoia, or the...
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
Meanwhile, Pakistan's got quite a few nukes and medium-range delivery systems.
ray mcgovern ▲ ● ▼
Yeah. Well, even, you know, my friend Robert Gates, who was nominated to be Defense Secretary right there in 2004, I guess, well, 2006, right after the terrible election for the Republicans.
You know, when he was asked by one of the Why would, tell me, just tell me, why would Iran want to have a nuclear weapon?
And Gates, I guess, thinking more as an analyst rather than a politician, he says, well, look at the map.
They're surrounded by countries that have nuclear weapons.
There's Pakistan, there's Russia, there's Israel.
Turkey? And Turkey, and well, Turkey doesn't have a nuclear weapon.
we've got news there young yeah but and then in the Persian Gulf at the US this surrounded Pakistan Russia And of course, that's a sensible,
sensible... Now, what happens to North Korea?
They have a bomb.
Nothing. What happens to Iraq?
They all have a bomb.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
They get a bomb, they're safe.
Stay there.
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So we have the son of one of the top Irgun terrorists that blew up British military bases and villages of Arabs in Palestine and Israel.
He's basically in there running the White House as an open Israeli officer.
He's there advising Obama.
I was talking to Ray about chances of them attacking Iran.
I mean, I'll ask him that on air, but if you were there talking to Obama, if you could have an hour with Obama, What would be the first thing you said to him, Ray McGovern?
ray mcgovern ▲ ● ▼
Well, you know, this kind of thing is not impossible.
Let me go back a couple years and tell you that I met Senator John Warner, my distinguished senator from Virginia, at a concert, okay?
He was walking alone outside, and I said to my wife, oh, this is a great chance.
I went out there and introduced myself as the fellow that gave up my seat at the Bolshoi Ballet when he came to sign agreements on disarmament back in 1972.
And he said, oh, you're the one.
So we had a little camaraderie there.
And as we walked back into the crowd there, he's hanging onto my arm.
And I said, you know, Senator Warner, you really ought to look into why they hate us, why they really hate us.
And he turned to me and said, oh, why is that?
And I said, because they identify us specifically and exclusively with the state of Israel and the kinds of oppression that Israel is doing in the Middle East.
Now, his grip on my arm, Alex, was like a vice.
He cut off the circulation.
And he said, whoa, I don't know what we can do about that.
And I looked at him and I said, holy Moses, here's a guy, last term in the Senate, he'd been around a long time.
And he panics.
He grabs my, cuts off the blood circulation in my left arm and says, oh, I don't know if we can do anything about that.
And there it is.
So what I would do to Obama is grab his arm and say, look, Barack, you're surrounded by people who don't have the interests of the United States primary in mind.
This Iran thing is a cockamamie way to do the kind of regime change that Bush and Cheney did in Iraq.
Face up to Obama or else just go away because you're a terrible disappointment the way you cave in to all these crooks.
That's what I'd say to Obama.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
I've seen a lot of top analysts saying this could trigger a World War III type of scenario, or bare minimum, a wider conflict.
And there's a lot of other regimes around the world that, on both sides, or on different sides, on their own side, who may take an attack on Iran, knowing we're totally overextended, as a chance to start new wars and take over other areas.
ray mcgovern ▲ ● ▼
Well, not only that, but the Iranians have the kind of terrorist system that, you know, makes al-Qaeda look like a grammar school.
They can cause all kinds of troubles here in this country as well.
So, you know, it's really necessary for this word to get out.
And what I call the fawning corporate media, Alex, the mass media in this country, TV, radio, owned by the kinds of corporations that are profiting from wars, such as we have in Iraq and Afghanistan and, God forbid, Iran, they don't know which end is up.
They don't care about U.S.
soldiers perishing in these wars.
All they care about is to disguise the real roots of these wars.
And one thing, I'll just add to this calculus.
Today, there's a Washington Post panegyric, you know, a very laudatory exposition on Rahm Emanuel.
The reason that Barack Obama is pondering is because he hasn't heeded Rahm Emanuel's advice.
That's the whole point of this thing, written by one of their neocon writers, okay?
In the midst of this thing, it turns out that Rahm Emanuel was first and foremost among those that said, you can't try Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in a civilian court.
Now, he wants him tried in a military court.
Why is that?
Well, you know why that is?
Because Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, when he was asked, when he was first apprehended, why he did what he did in masterminding 9-11, he said, because of my extreme hatred for U.S. politics.
policy favoring Israel.
That's going to come out in a civilian court, Rahm Emanuel and the other deocons.
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It is Texas Independence Day, March 2nd, Tuesday.
We've got about six minutes left with Ray McGovern, former top CIA analyst, multiple presidents, With the balance of the hour into the next, we're going to have the once-a-month visit with Mike Rivero.
I'm Alex Jones.
We're going to be getting into the economy, the police state, and a lot more.
The attack on the internet that's taking place, the transformation of our republic into a first-rate banana republic.
But going back to Ray McGovern here.
Ray, shifting gears just into the policies That our nation has really now openly adopted.
What, three years ago, four years ago, Bush put out a press release from the White House saying, oh, we're funding these four patriot groups inside Iran, three of them tied to Al-Qaeda, one of them commanded by the number three in Al-Qaeda.
And I remember years ago, you talk about the Golden Mosque in Iraq being bombed by Western forces to get the Sunnis and Shiites killing each other.
That later came out that that was the case.
I mean, this is standard operating procedure.
And he wrote an article titled, A Good Terrorist Captured by Iran for Counterpunch, break down the type of covert operations, the black ops, the false flags that are being launched against Iran.
Because from all this evidence and the White House admitting it and Obama continuing it, Iran has been incredibly restrained in putting up with this and not responding.
ray mcgovern ▲ ● ▼
Well, they had a big piece of luck because they had captured one of the good terrorists.
Now, as is well known, there are good terrorists and there are bad terrorists.
The bad ones are the bad guys.
The good ones are the ones that we fund to the tune of $400 million.
Can you imagine?
$400 million for covert operation.
You can do a lot of stuff with $400 million.
And one of the terrorist organizations that seems to be acquiring some of this largest, our tax money, is a violent organization called Jurdala.
Now, people have to realize that almost half the population in Iran is minority.
You have the Azeris, you have the Balukis, you have the Kurds.
Only about 51% are actually Persians.
So there's a fertile field for causing trouble and putting the regime off balance.
Well, they caught this one fellow, and his claim to fame was running this Zurdala, which is not only harassing everyone that can, not only tried to assassinate Ahmadinejad, but also can be used in this manner.
On October 1st last year, there was a breakthrough agreement that shocked everyone.
For the first time, a high-level negotiator, that is, it was the undersecretary of state, was sent to talk with the Iranians, together with the Europeans, about the Iranian nuclear problem. And the proposal was, hey...
Why don't you send 75% of your low-enriched uranium to Russia and to France, and we'll turn it into the fuel you need for your small reactor that produces medical isotopes.
And guess what the Iranians said?
Okay, that sounds like a good idea.
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What a shock!
ray mcgovern ▲ ● ▼
Even the New York Times acknowledged that if this happens, that would represent a major accomplishment, reducing Iran's ability to make a nuclear weapon quickly and buying more time for negotiations.
Okay, well.
That looked really good.
Guess what happened?
Jandala rose to the occasion, and two and a half weeks later, namely on October 18, 2009, mounted a guerrilla operation that killed the deputy commander of the Revolutionary Guard's ground forces, another brigadier general who commanded that part of Iran, three other brigade commanders, and dozens of other military officers and civilians.
Cundalla took proud credit for that.
Now, the next day was the resumption of negotiations in Vienna this time to follow up on the breakthrough agreement.
And you could see what happened.
The Revolutionary Guards went to their patron, who was the supreme leader, Khamenei, and said, "You're going to trust the West?
After what they've done just now, you're going to trust them by putting 75% of your uranium into Russian and French hands?
Give me a break!
And so the deal fell through.
Now, was that a terrible disappointment to Hillary Clinton, the rest of them?
Not at all.
They wanted the deal to fail.
They're not concerned about the nuclear potential of Iran.
What they want is regime change.
And were these deals have gone through, Ahmadinejad and the rest of them would have been in a stronger position than the one they are now.
So, you know, this is so hypocritical and, you know, so, I mean, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize what's going on there.
They want regime change.
They don't care much about the nuclear thing or else they would have taken the Iranians, you know, on their agreement and principle to go through with it.
Now, the rest of the story is the Iranians have come up with several other very constructive suggestions.
They've all been turned down by, guess who?
I think so.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼
Well, we also, what, six months ago they said secret nuclear plant found in Iran.
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