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unidentified		Big Brother.
		Mainstream media.
		Government cover-ups.
		You want answers?
		Well, so does he.
		He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
		And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
		We are live.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Ladies and gentlemen, on this Friday, the 19th day of February 2010, four hours of radio broadcast lay before us.
		We have our once a week visit in the third hour with Bob Chapman of the International Forecaster.
		Of course, I'm Alex Jones of Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
		have got a deeper view into Joe Stack, who is being billed by the mainstream media as the kamikaze attacker of the IRS slash FBI-filled office complex in North Austin, here in Texas.
		Of course, we broadcast from Austin, Texas.
		We've been out to his burned-down house.
		We have talked to multiple witnesses on the ground.
		We have collated local media reports of emergency personnel on the ground before the plane sped into the building yesterday morning at 9 55 a.m. Central Time.
		We have a source that talked to the FBI and said that they had dispatched people to Concerning a possible threat in Austin, that isn't evidence of a false flag.
		They could have been responding to his suicide slash manifesto.
		It appears the manifesto is real from his own personal website.
		There's been a lot of confusion on that front, obviously, because people didn't know it was real or not for the first few hours.
		Could it have been planted on his site?
		We don't know.
		We're going to break down all the different facets today.
		But in the first hour of the radio broadcast yesterday, I said that there was a good chance the media was going to try to blame it on the Tea Parties.
		Some people said, how can you say that, Jones?
		Well, I was right.
		Two hours into the show, they were already all over Time Magazine, you name it, saying it.
		We're going to go over those headlines.
		The good news is, myself and many others have culled through the Central Texas Tea Party groups.
		Leaders of the local Tea Party groups are on record.
		But he was never at their events, not part of their events.
		No one knew him.
		But I will tell you who knew him.
		Robb Dew.
		Robb Dew has footage.
		He shot of Mr. Stack playing for another band that he was friends with.
		And he filled in for them whenever their guitar player or keyboard player was out or unavailable or sick.
		He knew Mr. Stack pretty well.
		And didn't realize it because he's played with so many musicians.
		It's like a Small town community.
		You got a million people in Austin, but the musician community is like a small town.
		Everybody knows everybody, basically.
		And it's coming out that Mr. Stack played for some other big musicians in Austin, Texas.
		He was a very talented musician.
		Never talked about violence.
		His house is burned almost to the ground.
		We've been there.
		Tried to talk to neighbors, and they said, if we'd have been here a few hours ago, we would have talked to you, but we've made a commitment not to talk now.
		I don't know.
		We'll find out more in the coming hours and days, but I have a lot of key info we're going to go through.
		You can make up your own decision.
		You can call in and give us your take on what's happening on this front.
		But what we do know is the blogosphere, the so-called left medium, has seized upon this in an attempt to demonize the Tea Party movement, as I predicted they would do in the first hour if there was any evidence of this being deliberate.
		And in the first five minutes of the show, I said because the plane flew straight in at high speed, looked like it was under control because it was a government-filled building, that it was probably going to end up being intentional.
		We were right on that front.
		Now the question is, did he do it on purpose himself or was it a setup?
		We'll go through all the evidence straight ahead.
		We got a surprise guest coming up later in the show as well.
		Stay with us.
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unidentified		Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Ecolablu I am really excited about the special guest we have scheduled coming up later in the broadcast, but just like last week, With the blizzards hitting the East Coast, we were unable to have that professor on, who's testified on the deadly nature of the fluoride chemicals,
		because they use that as a catch-all term, and literally the university he was at was snowed out and shut down.
		And this particular guest is in an area that's snowed out pretty bad right now, and their phone is just not disconnected, it's just dead.
		But I'm crossing my fingers, because this is a pretty big guest, we're very excited about it.
		Coming up also Bob Chapman the international forecaster always joins us on Fridays in the third hour and I talked to Mike Rivera this morning.
		I'm trying to get him to pop in with his view of What he thinks his perspective on what's happening with this Airplane kamikaze attack on the IRS building he seems to believe it's real He seems to Believe that this guy was really disgruntled and angry.
		And I respect Mike's view.
		I mean, he's a pretty smart guy, but I told him Obama was a bad guy.
		And he was wrong for endorsing him.
		I said, it's going to be the same thing.
		And he admitted that later.
		So he's not infallible.
		But neither am I. I've said from the beginning, this thing stinks from high heaven.
		And I believe they're going to stage a terror attack in Austin because the evidence is clear that the feds Firebombed the governor's mansion.
		That's a long story, but we've gone over it before.
		And I know that a federal informant who was involved with a Palestinian man that was clearly murdered, was also involved with other Austin activists trying to get them to firebomb Brave New Books, according to their reports, was also the guy setting people up in Minnesota on record.
		He admits that with the Moloff cocktails at the RNC.
		There's a lot of other pieces of evidence Uh, that go into this, literally hundreds.
		The point is, is that I've been looking at Austin as one of the prime places, and people emailed me in the last two months when I've been saying this every week, saying, well, why are you saying Austin?
		Why not New York?
		Why not L.A.?
		And certainly those are targets as well.
		I'm telling you, Austin, ladies and gentlemen, so when I see something like this at the start of the show, I didn't learn about it until I was driving into work about 30 minutes after it happened at about 10.30.
		I get ready at home, I'd miss the news, My wife starts calling me, going, you know, do you know about this?
		I missed her call, listened to her voicemail, heard it, got into the office, came on air.
		The preliminary reports were the plane leveled off straight line into the first and second floor, accelerating.
		Didn't sound like somebody having a heart attack to me.
		Then we learned it was a government-filled complex.
		What's the chances of a government building being hit by accident like this?
		And I said, folks, they're probably going to say it was on purpose.
		And then they're going to say the Tea Parties are involved.
		And what happened?
		Hundreds of mainstream news articles saying this.
		Hundreds. Kamikaze attack.
		Well, here's the headline, Corporate Media Blames Kamikaze Attack on Tea Parties.
		Time Magazine.
		Here's some of the Other articles, New York Daily News, Kamikaze pilot Joe Stack, who crashed plane into Austin building, hailed by anti-government groups.
		And then they stick me in here.
		I said if this was intentional, it's horrible.
		It gives the government exactly what they want.
		And I'm getting calls and emails saying, no, it's good, let's start the violence now.
		You people have no idea what's going to happen if a bloody revolution starts, do you?
		That's exactly what NORTHCOM is hoping for.
		Here's another one in the Statesman.
		Social media speeds up news gathering and plane crash aftermath.
		And it implies, very deceptively, this Omar...
		Gallagher, is that how you pronounce it?
		G-A-L-L-A-G-H-E-R, Gallagher?
		And it says, the Austin-based website, Infowars.com, owned by conspiracy theorist Alex Jones...
		Yeah, I read the...
		PNAC documents on air, or I read the Climategate emails that are official and admitted and Newsweek comes out and says they don't exist.
		I mean you people are sick.
		The Austin-based website Infowars.com owned by conspiracy theorist Alex Jones had speculated that the manifesto was a hoax.
		No, he didn't.
		When Watson first found it, he said it's on this art website This embedded art website looks like it's Stack's site, but they've confirmed his name is Stack, and it says this is Stack's site, but we don't know.
		We put it up within minutes.
		Everybody else had it.
		So for 10-15 minutes, we were saying, we don't know if this is real.
		The Austin-based website InfoWars.
		You see, they imply we're wrong about things, when we're just like the rest of the media trying to figure out what happened live on air.
		The Austin-based website InfoWars.
		Website InfoWars, owned by conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, has speculated the manifesto was a hoax.
		Later in the day, InfoWars itself was inaccessible.
		Guys, is that true?
	Was InfoWars.com inaccessible yesterday?
	Watson said he never saw that.
	InfoWars was part of a flood of quickly sprouting blog posts and Facebook pages examining theories such as, Austin, Texas plane crash was staged.
	Or supporting Stack's alleged point of view.
	That Joe, take my pound of flesh Stack's anti-IRS fan page.
	So, it says Infowars was part of a flood.
	Nothing on my site written or posted by us saying this was good.
	And then they go on to mention another site but imply we're calling for violence.
	Same thing in the New York Daily News.
	Kamikaze pilot Joe Stack But they've got Lloyd Doggett in here saying, It was outrageous that some Americans were praising Stack.
	So the implicate, and then they go to me.
	Isn't that nice?
	This was a cowardly act of domestic terrorism, he said.
	And Stack's rant reflects a steadily increasing flow of the government is out to get me paranoia.
unidentified		Thank you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		On the other end of the crazy scale, internet conspiracy theorists, including Austin Radio host Alex Jones, were quick yesterday to declare that the plane crash was staged by the government to demonize the Tea Party movement.
		No. We said, this may be what's happening.
		Before anyone even knew it was intentional, I said, watch!
		They may say it's intentional and they're going to blame the Tea Party.
		And I was right again.
		Which then really got me concerned last night.
		This could have been staged.
		And we don't know.
		Now, I got a call from someone in our office, who's done work for our office, I'll just leave it at that, who's been a good source in the past, and the FBI, out of Dallas, called him in the morning and said, we don't know, someone he knows, Called him, because he had worked previously with his father, the father of this agent.
		Contacted him and said, look, last night, paper came across my desk, some type of threat in Austin on a government building.
		They dispatched four officers.
		And we wrote an article, Paul Watson did, saying, look, this could be from the screed that was posted, from the manifesto, and that doesn't mean the government was involved, or it could mean.
		Because we know with Oklahoma City bombing, and it was later declassified and confirmed years after it was called a conspiracy theory, that the FBI terror response team responded two days before and was in Oklahoma City.
		When they tried to deny this for years, it's now confirmed.
		Just like Giuliani.
		Remember Kennedy, the FEMA New York director?
		This is in Watson's article.
		Remember how He went on ABC News and CBS on 9-11 saying, yeah, we deployed the night before for a terror attack on the World Trade Centers.
		And then Giuliani, it turned out, gave two interviews saying the same thing.
		And then later in congressional testimony said, oh no, that never happened.
		Then it got declassified.
		It was called Tripod 2 for an attack on the World Trade Center complex.
		And they'd moved the emergency center out of Building 7 the night before September 10th to the end of one of the big piers.
		In Mobile Emergency Command Center.
		So, not only were they there the night before, they then lied about it, and then later it was proven accurate.
		So we simply say, was this staged, or did they just get a warning about his manifesto?
		We don't know.
		This needs to be investigated.
		And the FBI agent didn't know.
		He just said, Talking to this particular journalist that we spoke with, I'll leave it at that.
		He just says, this went on.
		And he put two and two together.
		It was, you know, a minor thing that happened during the day to see them hurriedly dispatched.
		He didn't know the specifics other than it was a threat on a government building in Austin.
		And then the next morning it all comes together and then we have the local newscast And other eyewitnesses we've talked to that said, yeah, there were fire trucks and police out there before this happened.
		And then other witnesses that went to their apartment windows and surrounded by apartments and businesses, and they said, boom, they heard the big explosion.
		Hundreds of windows falling out of the building on two different sides.
		They go to their window and there's already FBI out there with video cameras.
		In fact, let's go to this clip from KXAN News NBC of one of the witnesses.
		Here it is.
unidentified		Is there anything else that you would like to say after seeing this this morning?
		I guess, sorry, the one thing I would like to say is that I know the fire department got here real fast because they actually had an engine sitting over there that just happened to be doing something with hazmat.
		So they were over here like right away.
		So I guess that's the one good thing.
		Megan, thank you so much again.
		It's always great to have an eyewitness account, and unfortunately on a morning like this, but we thank you for your perspective this morning.
		Thank you, Megan.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So there she is, standing right in front of the building with the media, saying there are fire trucks and hazmat right here, and that's what all the other witnesses are telling us.
		So we're investigating this, ladies and gentlemen.
		We'll continue to break down the demonization of the tea parties.
		And we'll take your calls and a lot more.
		It's Friday.
		Websites are InfoWars.com, PrisonPlanet.com, JonesReport.com, InfoWars.net, PrisonPlanet.tv.
		Stay with us.
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		Okay, here's what's going to happen.
		I'm going to go to break.
		This is a short segment here in a few minutes.
		And we're going to come back and go A to Z through the entire Joe Stack story.
		Then I'm going to open the phones up to get your take on what's happening.
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		Is there any key pieces of info we haven't covered?
		What's your gut take on this?
		What do you think of me being right again, unfortunately?
		When I said this may end up being an intentional event, this is the start of the show.
		Hour and a half before the media confirmed it.
		And they're going to try to blame it on the tea parties.
		They've certainly done that.
		Here's AP headline.
		Texas man angry with IRS crashes plane into office.
		1-800-259-9231 with your comments.
		Texas man angry with IRS crashes plane into office.
		Continuing source.
		FBI knew Austin attack was coming.
		Attack in Austin.
		Outrage loaned wolf or false flag op?
		Those are our type of headlines.
		But here's what the mainstream media are saying.
		New York Times, New York Magazine, Washington Post, Time Agree.
		Joe Stack was one crazy tea bagger.
		That's the National Review Online article.
		Here's another headline.
		Austin plane crash labeled right-wing domestic terror attack by Obama supporters.
		But this morning, news that Joe Stack was not a Tea Party member disappoints Obamanoids.
		Key article by Paul Joseph Watson.
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		This is our last chance to not relive history.
unidentified		As we're finishing off this agenda, they'll be pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.
john perkins ▲ ● ▼		We have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.
jesse ventura ▲ ● ▼		I think it's incumbent upon all of us as American citizens to pay attention.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Fall of the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation, the criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.
unidentified		Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists!
		They're asking for more matches!
		And the Congress is saying, who do we make the check out to?
g edward griffin ▲ ● ▼		Today, it seems like nobody does care.
g edward griffin ▲ ● ▼		And right now in Washington, D.C., we have seen a fall of the Republic.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Get your copy of Fall of the Republic on DVD at Infowars.com or watch it online right now in super high quality at PrisonPlanet.tv.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thank you for joining us, ladies and gentlemen.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I want to take your phone calls.
johnny cash ▲ ● ▼		Multitudes are marching to the big kettle drum.
unidentified		Voices calling, voices crying.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I want to break down all the latest Joe Stack kamikaze attack reports.
		We don't know what really happened yet, but it doesn't look good either way.
		And it's very sad for those that died.
		The media is now saying that he died and one other person and several other injured.
		But I don't really watch Glenn Beck.
		I watch little short YouTube clips of him and things.
		And I'll talk about this more when Bob Chapman's on with us in an hour and a half.
		Not gonna spend much time on it.
		But it was unspeakable.
		He compared himself to the Founding Fathers, said he was the Founding Fathers.
		Then he took a picture of Medina and put Deborah Medina, running for governor in Texas, and put her next to Van Jones and pointed at her and said, these people hate America.
		It's all designed for people with the mind of like six or seven year olds.
		How dare him?
		Say that she hates America.
		That's what he did.
		It's so deceptive.
		It's so manipulative.
		And he was covering Joe Stack saying we don't know who this man is.
		We don't know if he was a left-winger or a right-winger.
		Well, analyzing his letter and analyzing, talking to people that knew him.
		Robb Dew is going to be in studio in the last hour today.
		Robb Dew knew him well.
		played in bands with him.
unidentified		Thank you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And this guy was not political.
		But then Glenn Beck takes his picture, and sticks him on the right side of the paradigm.
		He has this left-right paradigm up there, and in the middle he has a circle, and he says, up here is where the extremists are that hate America, and he sticks Van Jones up there, and right next to it sticks Deborah Medina's picture up, the video's up on InfoWars.com, and PrisonPlanet.com, and he points At Medina and says these people hate America.
		They're dangerous.
unidentified		They're dangerous.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Was the craziest thing I've ever seen.
		And I don't watch this show very often.
		Jaron said he was at a car wash a week ago.
		And people were in the car wash eating popcorn, all of them wrapped, 10 people or more in the area waiting for their cars to go through the wash and be hand-dried.
		And they were just mindlessly buying into it all.
		Where he's like a kindergarten teacher talking to mindless idiots.
		Total guilt by association.
		And then he stuck the picture of Alan Keyes up because he's criticized Sarah Palin for being pro-abortion and pro-global warming in the past.
		Alan Keyes is a real conservative, folks.
		He's the real deal.
		He's not perfect.
		I don't agree with all his policies.
		He's been pro-war at times.
		But the point is, he...
		Ambassador Keyes is good.
		He stuck him next to Van Jones, too!
		I mean, this is outrageous!
		They get our confidence through a fake like this, and now he's really running his true flag up, showing everybody, alright, I'm already digressing.
		It's just, I can't spend every show analyzing it.
		Just... A lot of people are seeing it for themselves.
		No wonder he's lost half a million viewers the last week.
		His show was climbing and climbing and climbing, and now, according to Nielsen, he's plunging.
		He's lost 10% of his audience, or more.
		What's 500,000 out of 3 million?
unidentified		What's 500,000 out of 3 million?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But he doesn't care.
		He's paid to do this.
		He gets your confidence.
		And then he stabs you in the back.
		And, look, I don't want to get up here and attack Glenn Beck.
		I don't want to talk about him.
		I don't want to watch him.
		They had the TV on in the control room on Fox, and I stopped because I was taking all these phone calls from witnesses and people, and my crew had just gotten back from Joe Stack's burnt-down house here in Austin and talking to his neighbors.
		And he goes, these are the people that hate America.
		They've got to be stopped.
		These people.
		And he sticks Deborah Medina and Van Jones next to each other.
		She hates America!
		This guy is incredible!
		Then he sticks Alan Keyes up there.
unidentified		Thank you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I think Glenn Beck is committing political self-inhalation or suicide on air.
		I mean, you talk about delusional.
		You'd think when he lost 500,000 viewers last week he'd stop with this.
		No! Because he's committed to his cause.
		Deborah Medina and Alan Keyes are bad?
		Who's next?
		George Washington?
		No, it's worse than that.
		He compared himself to the founders.
		It was the most disgusting thing I've ever seen.
		He flips the chalkboard over to the other side and has the founders up there and says, They're like me.
		The only person I can think of to compare to the Founders is me.
		Oh, yes, to the...
		Oh, yes, Glenn.
		Yes. Yes.
		No, you could compare Deborah Medina to the Founders, or Ron Paul, or Alan Keyes.
		You certainly can't compare yourself, and how dare you stick them up there with Van Jones, an admitted communist!
		You make me sick!
		And then he went on to demonize the Birthers, saying these people are so dangerous!
		The birthers!
		That's more than half of registered Republicans in polls!
		Search engine it!
		More than half of registered Republicans say they question Obama's birth certificate.
		Those polls were six months ago!
		They're scared!
		Alright, I have digressed.
		It's wrong.
		It's just hard to watch it.
		What have I been missing?
		I mean, I don't ever watch it.
		I watch maybe two or three YouTubes a week and they're always so horrible.
		Craig Sadler was in the control room literally saying, I can't watch it, turn it off.
		Because it's sickening!
		In fact, call Craig Sadler in here on the mic.
		Is he in there?
		I don't see him.
		He's talking to my wife.
		Call him in here.
		I mean...
		I could play the clips right now, but it's like 20 minutes of it.
		I've got two different 10-minute clips, because when I got home last night, hung out with my children a while, then they went to bed, and I went and watched them in full, and it was even worse.
		That's kind of what happens, though.
		I watch videos, I read news articles, government documents, and I get on air, and I don't even want to go over them again.
		Greg won't even know what I'm pulling him in here about.
		You know what?
		Look, everybody's seen it for themselves.
		There's no point in even covering it.
		I mean, there's going to be a certain percentage of people that are complete morons that are going to buy into this, and there's almost no point in even countering.
		This shows how desperate the establishment is, though.
unidentified		you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay. Recapping the Joe Stack saga.
		There's a lot of different ways to look at this.
		Remember the Rasmussen poll of last week?
		75% are angry at government's current policies, Rasmussen.
		75% of Republicans and Democrats polled, just a random poll, are angry.
		And so there are a lot of people saying, look, we're sick of the IRS killing people and raiding houses and taking homes without due process.
		And Beck last night was saying it was in any all ways un-American to fight.
		Well, that's an anti-founding father.
		That's actually not true.
		I'm saying violence isn't good at this point in time because we want to try to fix things peaceably.
		But a lot of people are saying, hey, Alex, don't criticize this guy.
		He is a hero.
		Well, I think he's misguided and wrong what he did.
		I know he was cornered, and I know the government has a lot coming to it, but strategically this is bad.
		And it will only make the government circle the wagons that much more against the people, instead of us reaching out to many people in government who were waking up and fixing the system by taking over the states peacefully.
		And by getting our own interest-free state banks, like several states have.
		I'm doing more research on that.
unidentified		you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We don't need to go the physical 1776 route unless we continue to get cornered.
		But we're making so much headway right now on ClimateGate, and on the FluGate, and on shooting down government takeover of healthcare, on everything.
		We are hitting on all cylinders.
		The enemy is in the ditch with their engine blown.
		And Some people I talk to say, oh no, the government's scared.
		They're scared of violence.
		They're scared of people start standing up.
		You know, this could be a Ceausescu type overthrow, Alex.
		You want to take that gamble, hmm?
		I mean, can you say the average cop or the average IRS bureaucrat or the average FBI agent deserves to die without a judge, a jury, anything?
		You want to go that route?
		Because the one thing Glenn Beck said that was true yesterday is this could turn into a French Revolution.
		The problem is he then demonized a bunch of peaceful people like Deborah Medina and Alan Keyes and said they were leading to a French Revolution.
		See, why is he attacking people that aren't calling for violence?
		That's how this is going to work.
		They're going to try to shut down the real political debate we're having because we're winning by fostering violence.
		Every fiber of my body says stop violence.
		Don't have violence.
		Now, if you're defending yourself, that's another issue.
unidentified		you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's a very complex situation that we're looking at, that we're facing right now.
		But we don't know if this is his real note he put on his site.
		No one knows that.
		The government plants passports at all the attack sites on 9-11.
		What are they doing here?
		We don't know.
		We know the underwear bombing was staged.
		This comes on the heels of it.
unidentified		Thank you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We know they had emergency personnel out there before it even happened.
		That's confirmed.
		We know they blamed it on the Tea Party.
		Men at one.
		We don't know.
		But I know, in a whole bunch of mainstream articles, in the Statesman, and in the New York Daily News, and a bunch of others, who are they attacking?
		Alex Jones.
		They say, these people are calling for violence, and Alex Jones is with them.
		Complete lie.
		Why am I the target again?
		Two hours after they get the computers of Blavatsky up in Pittsburgh, they say he's an Alex Jones fan and did it for Alex Jones.
		Then they actually get His emails and his comments and what he said, he hated me!
		Because I didn't want violence, and I'm not making this whole thing about Jews.
		First person the ADL comes after in Southern Property Law Center when they get that computer?
		Me. First person mainstream media comes after?
		Me. Why?
		Because we've got their number, we know how to think, we know how they operate, and they don't like us.
		What do you think is going on, Jeremy in Minnesota?
unidentified		Hey Alex, can you hear me?
		Yep. I just wanted to let you know that on Wednesday night when I came home from work, it was the 17th, I started watching CNN Headline News.
		Not the regular CNN, but CNN Headline News, where Nancy Grace, CNN Student News, and Prime News All kind of go together at the 2.30, from about 2.30 in the morning till 4 o'clock in the morning.
		And I saw on there that a plane crashed in Texas.
		And a plane crashed in California.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that was Amarillo, that was Amarillo and Palo Alto.
unidentified		So that was a different crash altogether?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there was another crash in Amarillo.
		There was another crash in, it hit a power pole.
		Knocked out power to 20 plus thousand people in California.
unidentified		Okay, alright.
		I was a little confused.
		I thought that they might have...
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, a lot of craziness going on, Jeremy.
		Probably a coincidence.
		I appreciate your call.
		John in Texas, you're on the air.
		Go ahead.
		Hey, John.
		John, you want to go on air?
		Okay, let him go.
		Paul in Connecticut, you're on the air.
		Hello? Yes, go ahead.
unidentified		Alright, I have a valid point.
		You've been saying it this whole while.
		If this is real, if this guy was a Lone Ranger and he went in to do this because he felt like he was going to show who's boss or something, it's wrong.
		We can't have any violence, you know what I mean?
		No violence at all.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, what about secretaries in that building?
		Turns out they didn't even hit the IRS part.
		In fact, does anybody know what part of the building, what business that was?
		I mean, some secretary sitting there deserves to die?
unidentified		They don't!
		They don't deserve to die because they're almost slaves.
		I mean, they're slaves for somebody else, but that's beside the point.
		And it's really scary that they're not really labeling this as a patriotic terrorist or anything like that.
		They're kind of leaving the word terrorist out.
		And I believe that this is even more dangerous because No, then they're just saying that Americans who believe something different than what the mainstream media is feeding us and all this other nonsense, they're trying to make Americans afraid of Americans without using the word terrorist, which I believe is really dangerous.
		And to anybody else, just no violence.
		No violence, because it's just going to come back and it's going to hurt you even more.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because then that gives the system an excuse to use more violence on us.
		Great points, Paul.
		Look, one big issue In the last 10 hours, that makes me lean back towards him being a lone wolf, and we don't know that.
		This could clearly be a false flag, there's a lot of evidence there, but that, because that evidence there, we don't know either way.
		It's this, when it's a staged terror attack like the underwear bomber, It is wall-to-wall coverage every channel for weeks, and they have some big agenda they're trying to push through.
		Notice all these cyber attacks they're now reporting.
		Oh, we've got to pass the Cybersecurity Act in the Senate.
		That's clearly all staged.
		The way at first they said it was terror, and now it's just a criminal act, an intentional act, they're saying, and suddenly it's off all the front pages of the news.
		I've always said, and this is known in the media, in the 70s, in the 60s, they had Over a thousand real terror attacks.
		And when they're a real terror attack, or a real attack, the media doesn't like to cover it.
		When they do stage an event to blame a certain group, they hype the living daylights out of it.
		And the fact that they're now not really reporting on this, and they're starting to shut it down, and it's not on the front page of most newspapers and magazines and CNN, tells me it may have been a lone operation.
		Or, because so much evidence of prior knowledge is coming out, and it's an embarrassment to the government, who didn't get down there and stop him.
		Maybe that's why.
		I don't know.
		But that makes me start leaning back towards, maybe it is a lone operation.
		But for those that say, maybe he just crashed and had a heart attack, folks, his house is burned down.
		We've been there.
		This happened where I live.
		I mean, did the government set his house on fire and then shoot him up with something and put him in a remote control airplane and do it?
		That's in Operation Northwoods.
		Maybe so.
		We don't know.
		Time will tell.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		music Big development during the break.
		The guy just played me a clip of Glenn Beck's radio show this morning where he apologized to Debra Medina and said, hey, I got in trouble with Texas for going after her, but hey, we're on the same page.
		I'm for states' rights.
		I didn't mean anything.
		Now that he's damaged her or tried to damage her, now that he said she was basically a terrorist last night, that's what he does, though.
		I mean, he'll have Glenn Beck on one day on TV and the next day attack him on the radio, or have him on one day on the radio and attack him on TV the next day.
		That's what's so bad about him.
		You know, he runs that whole stage deal.
		It comes out that Sarah Palin's more of a 9-11 truther in her own video statements a year and a half ago than Deborah Medina, who just said, I support people's right to question and have investigations.
		And going after Alan Keyes, I mean, this guy is crazy.
		Absolutely out of his mind.
		Crazy like a fox, though.
		He's crazy to think he can get away with this.
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unidentified		Can I touch on the underwear bomber real quick?
		Sure. The government already had a plan to put in those scanners before Christmas, December 25th.
		Am I right by saying that?
		Yes. They already had those scanners.
		They wanted to put those in at the airports and train stations.
		Well, they found out, then of course they staged and escorted this guy on the plane.
		And now this gave them a reason to.
		My thoughts, and this is my opinion, the reason they want these scanners there, they are government, are leaders.
		They're supposed to be our leaders.
		They want to make sure, because we're over in the Middle East, this is my opinion, we need to be here minding our own business.
		They're probably fearful that someone from the Middle East is going to come over here because we're doing things we shouldn't be doing over there.
		And my thoughts are they are going to have to do this because they want a reason to do it.
		Now they got one.
		I don't know if you know this or not, but during the trial, the first day of the trial, I guess the Homeland Security lawyer or attorney did not show up.
		It was something to do with her scheduling.
		So we know that guy's probably going to get out, you know, the FBI or government or whoever.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, Christina, you make some great points.
		We're about to start the second hour.
		I'm going to have to let you go.
		We have a very special guest on the line with us.
		If anybody was ever persecuted, set up, destroyed because he made a stand for the people and justice, it's our guest that's coming up.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, for the next hour, ladies and gentlemen, then we're going to get back into the kamikaze attack in Austin and what's really going on there.
		But for the next hour, former Congressman Traficant is our guest.
		James Traficant, we're very honored to have him with us.
		He, of course, ran in 1984 as a low-budget grassroots campaign for Congress, despite being outspent 7-1 by an incumbent Republican, Traficant Juan Handley, by 18,000 votes.
		He'd been re-elected seven times.
		In 2002, they set him up, completely transparent, just like with the governor of Alabama.
		That's now admitted.
		They had to release him from prison.
		It came out it was a complete fraud, a setup.
		They threatened to put somebody in prison that worked for him, but they didn't lie.
		Same thing with James Travis.
		Well, glad to be on your show, Alex.
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		You've got a great show.
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry I haven't been there so far, but you've really educated the American people, for sure.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, you've been in solitary confinement and in the concentration camp, so you couldn't come on, but it's great to have you here.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sir, break down what really happened to you for some out there that may not know and why it's so important.
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think what's amazing about the whole ordeal was it was a $15 million investigation over a span of six years, over 250 agents, all on or about the time that the Trade Center and the Pentagon were being attacked.
		Yeah. I
		case against trafficking for the government.
		So this thing is going to blow up.
		I think before it's over, I'm going to get some money out of this, and they're going to pay dearly.
		I've had it, and I think everybody in Austin is familiar with the term, I've had it, by now.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, since you brought that subject up to me when we went to break, what's your bottom line on the attack on the IRS building?
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, the IRS has become such an agency where they actually have testified, colleagues before Congress, that fear, fear is what produces compliance, voluntary compliance, by the American people. And without fear, there can be no collection of taxes.
		Now, to me, this is an absolute oxymoron in a free republic to hear a statement like that coming from an institution such as Internal Revenue Service.
		You know, my particular case is quite documented.
		I am the congressman that did change the burden of proof of the civil tax case.
		Before 1998, the taxpayer was guilty and had to prove himself innocent.
		I was able to change that in the'98 tax bill with the help of a Texan by the name of Bill Archer, the chairman of the Republican Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee.
		And Bill Archer put my language in, in the conference committee, because the IRS had threatened a veto by President Clinton to So I want to give tremendous credit in the state of Texas to that little man.
		And I think if George W. Bush would have made Bill Archer his Secretary of the Treasury, this country wouldn't be in the fix it's in.
		But having said that, Alex, the results were dramatic.
		They did a study one year before the bill and one year after, and all of the variables dealt basically with the trafficking burden of proof language.
		Wage garnishment has dropped from $3.1 million to $560,000.
		Property liens dropped from $670,000 to $160,000.
		An individual family-owned home seized by the IRS dropped from $10,070 to 57 homes, Alex.
		57 in 50 states.
		We've got an agency that's out of control.
		One of my last bills was in tandem with two Republicans, one from Louisiana, Billy Tozan, and one from Colorado, Dan.
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		I am going to skip the next break coming up so we have more time.
		Continue from there after this quick break.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I have studied Governor Siegelman's case when it first happened, and he's been vindicated.
		It was a total setup.
		I have studied James Traficant's case.
		Absolutely set up.
		When they can persecute governors and congressmen, and put them in prison for no reason, and ruin them financially.
		When they can persecute a sitting governor or a sitting congressman, none of us are safe.
		Like they tortured Congressman Hansen.
		We of course came to his aid.
		They dieseled him until his feet exploded, driving him around for weeks, chained up.
		This is the type of Hanoi Hilton stuff that's going on.
		We're going to talk about what happened to Trafficant in prison, why he was persecuted, the IRS, what he thinks of the event in Austin, what he's told me off-air if he wants to say that on-air.
		Then we'll talk about who targeted him for persecution and why.
		How he's going to be the comeback kid, and hopefully our listeners will support him.
		We're going to give you an address.
		He didn't ask for this.
		I did.
		I just got his address for people to send him, not campaign money, he's going to run again as an independent, but to get him back on his feet so he can, because they've ruined him and sucked his treasure out of him so he can't defend himself.
		If this ever happens to me, and unfortunately there's a good chance it will, when I get out of prison, I want people to support me.
		I'm ready.
		I understand what happens.
		Okay, going back to James Traficant.
		James, you got cut off by the break about how you were the number one true defender against the criminal IRS.
		Go ahead.
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		Well, Ali, first I want to say is I know you said that maybe one day when you're off the air, maybe you might have similar type of problems.
		And I want to say this, this may be one of the best compliments you'll ever get.
		I think you would have deserved that because you would have drawn the ire of a government that is completely out of control.
		And I believe your voice is becoming that strong that, quite frankly, I'm going to give you a little bit of advice now.
		Be very careful and watch yourself, because you are having that kind of an effect.
		And when people start and begin to have an effect, if it's not singing to the choir, it's a real problem.
		But having said that, we were talking before about the Internal Revenue Service.
		And we're, you know, I'm like everybody else in the country, seeing the headline news and the fiasco and the In fact, they've testified, Alex, before the Congress of the United States, that without fear, they wouldn't have their voluntary, quote-unquote, voluntary compliance.
		Well, let me tell you something.
		Fear has no place in the Constitution of the United States or in the fabric of American government.
		And we've got a real problem.
		Now, in 1998, I was the individual responsible for changing the burden of proof in a civil tax case.
		As I said earlier, I want to tip my hat to a Texan, Mr.
		Bill Archer.
		Mr. Bill Archer was the Republican chairman of Ways and Means Committee, and the trafficking language was not in the bill, that reform bill, because the IRS had threatened a veto to President Clinton if it contained the trafficking language.
		Well, after the bill passed the House, I got a call from Chairman Archer, and he said, you know, we have so much support for your bill, that he said he was going to put it into the conference committee between the House and the Senate.
		He did.
		And I honestly believe this, and I want the people of Texas who are listening to hear this, that I believe if President Bush would have named Bill Archer, his secretary,
		Okay. Salient
		points of concern that were covered by their study.
		The first one was wage garnishment.
		When the burden of proof was on the taxpayer, there were 3.1 million Americans whose wages were garnished.
		The following year, with the burden of proof on the Internal Revenue Service, that dropped to 561,000.
		Three million less, Alex.
		The second category was property lien.
		There were 670,000 the year before.
		161,000 the year after.
		And the final category was individual family-owned homes that were seized, taken by the IRS.
		The year before, when the taxpayer had the burden of proof, it was 10,073.
		The year after, it was 57, Alex.
		One per state when they had to prove it.
		You see, one of the last measures that I had, and it really was upsetting, and Chairman Archer said he liked the bill.
		Well, I teamed up with two Republicans, Billy Tozan of Louisiana and Dan Schaefer of Colorado.
		And it was the flat tax, the fair tax, a straight consumption tax.
		And let me tell you something.
		It repeals the 16th Amendment and throws out the IRS.
		It abolishes all withholding, all debt taxes, all capital gains taxes, corporate taxes, individual tax on expenses for education, investment tax.
		And it's about time, Alex, and what everybody's saying, well, you're going to put a 25% consumption tax on us, Travigan.
		And you're going to bankrupt everybody with these cost increases.
		Listen to the study that was performed in Harvard.
		They said when you throw out this burdensome tax code that has destroyed companies and destroyed our competitiveness, they said they will have downward movement to gain market share.
		Sounds like capitalism all over again.
		And they predicted I think so.
		reward work.
		Our tax code is basically a progressive communist tax code that was founded by Karl Marx.
		And here's how it works.
		The harder you work, the more you pay.
		The harder you work, you get hit over the head.
		We subsidize illegitimacy.
		We reward dependency.
		We kill investment.
		We chase companies overseas.
		These companies, they say they're not patriots because they left America.
		The reason they left is the tax code has made it impossible to make a profit in America.
		We've got to change it.
unidentified		Scrap it.
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		Throw the Internal Revenue Service out.
		Abolish the withholding.
		Absolutely. And that's where we gotta go, Alex.
		And let me say this briefly about this man in Texas.
		From what I understand, he was not a wacko.
		He had it.
		And there's so many people that had it, it's not unusual to see him venting at the Internal Revenue Service.
		My God, Congress of the United States is derelict in their duties to not repeal the 16th Amendment, throw out individual personal tax, reward a man for his labor, not punish him.
		And that's where we've got to go, Alex.
		That's exactly where we've got to go.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, look at Geithner, and most of the White House don't pay their taxes, but then the news is saying, look at this tax cheat, Joe Stack, he's scum, but then the big boys, they don't even have to pay the tax.
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is one of the problems.
		You have selective enforcement in all areas.
		First of all, we need a whole address to our central government.
		This is the United States of America, not the central government of America.
		No, we need the 17th Amendment back.
		Here's what I'm saying.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We need to get rid of it.
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		In the old days, those two U.S.
		senators were beholding to the state legislature in the respective states.
		If they didn't do what the states wanted, they replaced them.
		Now you've got these senators that are basically senators for America.
		We've lost states'rights.
		We've taken away.
		We've developed this big, central, powerful government that has molded us.
		My God, we've got a tax code that has become a behavior modification for economic activity.
		This is crazy, Alex.
		And I think it's not rocket science.
		There can be tremendous changes here.
		And it's not change that's needed.
		It's replacement.
		And I think that I will make this statement on your show.
		If the United States does not draw out the progressive income tax and replace it with a fair tax, America will implode similar to the Soviet Union's agenda.
		It's just a matter of time with that debt approaching $14 trillion.
		We can't satisfy.
		We're nothing more than a managed debt economy nation.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is powerful information, but I also want to get into your persecution, why you were persecuted, who was behind it.
		Was it the Israeli lobby?
		Was it the IRS?
		Was it a combination?
		We're going to break that down, and how if you can be persecuted like a heretic, this can happen to anybody.
		But finishing up with the whole income tax, they're raising all these other state taxes, local taxes, federal taxes, everything's starting to go bankrupt.
		Foreign banks are openly looting us.
		Paulson can give $200 million of bailout money to himself and give himself a waiver, and then nobody even knows why James Trafficking went to jail, completely made up.
		Same thing with governor in Alabama.
		I mean, this is amazing.
		But specifically, looking at this, how long do you think America has until it completely collapses if this out-of-control government continues?
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		I think, I would say this.
		I think it is inevitable.
		And I think it will be within the next generation, the next 20, 25 years, where America will implode.
		Certain states will move towards saving their own revenue and moving off on their own, maybe a compacted state.
		I could see a state like Alaska with their own revenue stream, bigger than most of the countries in land mass over in Europe, saying, hey, we're on our own, guys.
		And I could see this starting to happen.
		I think Georgia, The legislature has advanced an initiative stating that they'll collect the federal tax, but they won't send it to Washington.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let me just add, Congressman Traficant, that 30-plus states are moving to declare 9th and 10th Amendment powers, as you know, and the federal government itself has been hijacked by offshore banks, and I think it's going to happen a lot sooner No
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		No doubt.
		I think the headline that all Americans may expect, I hope it doesn't happen, but God forbid it does, that they'll wake up one morning and they'll hear a conversation on your show, Alex, about the dollar crashing.
		And when that dollar crashes, you will see an implosion in America.
		You'll see civil uprisings.
		You will see a massive hemorrhage of the institutions of the United States of America.
		See, nobody believes this can happen.
		Everybody believes this is America.
		This is not going to happen.
		What people are failing to see is a tremendous problem with the federal government not basically meeting the needs of the American people.
		And having said that, you asked me earlier, you know, what really happened to me?
		You know, in 1983, I was the only American in history to defeat the Justice Department in a RICO trial, pro se, without being a...
		In the late 80s, I was instrumental in bringing back John Demonik from Israel, who was on trial.
		He was already convicted and sentenced to be executed.
		No one would look into this man's case.
		I looked into his case, and I discovered and I was able to get documents from the Justice Department that not only proved he was innocent, Alex, but who Ivan the Terrible really was.
		It was so blatant in America, the pressure that Israel, through their lobby, had put on me and put on our government that Congress wouldn't hold a hearing on my evidence, and the Sixth Circuit Court in Cincinnati wouldn't accept the trafficking evidence.
		I sent it over to the Israeli Supreme Court.
		I did a live interview with Brian Gumbel on today's show by satellite from Jerusalem, and I basically said, they put this innocent man to death.
		Israel's going to lose upwards of $20 billion a year for the American taxpayers.
		And Brian Gumbel jumped in.
		He says, well, what do you mean?
		They only get $3 billion.
		I said, Brian, that's only foreign aid.
		No one's looking at loans.
		Loans converted to grants.
		Grants, economic assistance, military assistance.
		Well, I got a call the following night from the Supreme Court of Israel, and they said he'll be in Tel Aviv tomorrow night.
		Take him home.
		Here's a man on death row, Alex.
		But when that happened, I had a bullseye on my back like you couldn't believe.
		I had the IRS and the Justice Department already after me, and I had the most powerful lobby in America.
		I'm being branded a bigot and anti-Semite for saying it, but let me tell you something.
		There's only one entity that should control the Congress of the United States, and that's the American people.
		And people won't even whisper the truth about what's going on behind the scenes in Washington.
		The country's in a free fall, Alec.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		we're in trouble well i want to continue down this line because you would never been an enemy of israel are you simply defended an innocent man and even the supreme court look at the evidence and letting go And now they've grabbed him again and hauled him away.
		I mean, it's just a complete and total witch hunt.
		And now you have all these top professors coming out and pointing out that the Israeli lobby and Israeli newspapers brag that they control a lot of Congress.
		And you have Rahm Emanuel in the White House, who's an Israeli government agent, was in their military in the Gulf War.
		I mean, you're only saying what much of the evidence shows.
		I've always read, and experts of history have shown, that when you do beat the Justice Department, and they win, what, over 90% of their cases, they always come back, back, back, back, back.
		So was it the IRS that you exposed that got them first coming after you, and then the icing on the cake was then getting an innocent man freed?
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		I think it was a combination of all three, but just remember this.
		I was one of the most bitter enemies of the Justice Department.
		No kidding about that.
		And I had a struggle, it took me 12 years, and let me say this, I've been a Democrat all my life.
		The Democrats, I almost had a fist fight with Rossinkowski, Chairman Rossinkowski, wouldn't even hold a hearing on my burden of proof legislation.
		When Republicans did come in, and I'll give credit to Bill Archer again, there's a man that looked at the American taxpayer and he did something very significant, and I want to thank him on behalf of all Americans.
		I don't even know what happened to the old chairman.
		I hope he's still alive down there in Texas.
		He's a great man.
		But, Alex, I had a bullseye put on my back, but quite frankly, Scarlett, I don't give a damn.
		And here's the bottom line.
		If you're afraid to speak out about your own country, what has happened to our Constitution and our Bill of Rights?
		Why is everybody afraid to whisper what's going on?
		Listen to the strong statement I use on your show, even though it has labeled me and hurt me politically.
		Israel has a stranglehold of the United States of America.
		They have us in foreign wars we shouldn't be involved with that have bankrupted us.
		and they've gone so far as having Israeli Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon making a statement on Israeli radio, October 3, 2001, the following, we, comma, the Jewish people, comma, control America, and the Americans know it.
		And no one read that in a newspaper in this country.
		No one knows about it.
		So maybe Jim Travick is going to be labeled.
		But I think if we've got a problem, let's straighten our country out.
		We don't have to hurt Israel.
		They are a friend.
		They're a democracy within a cluster of monarchs and dictators, but we don't have to prosecute their expansion plans.
		We don't have to get involved and be pushed into wars by Israel, manipulated by Israel.
		And we shouldn't answer to nobody but the American people.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, look at Ron Paul.
		I mean, he says cut off foreign aid to everybody.
		We are going bankrupt, and they call him an anti-Semite, though he wants to cut it off to Africa, he wants to cut it off to Egypt, he wants to cut it off to Iraq.
		We can't pay this bill anymore, and the fact that whenever somebody says, look, we need to stop being involved in all these wars, we need to stop doing this, and the ADL and Southern Poverty Law Center come out and attack me when I'm You're
		because, I mean, you're a tough guy.
		You're not whining about it on air now, but they treated you like hell, I saw on the news.
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		Alex, the first place I went was 50% illegal immigrants.
		And keep this in mind for the people of Texas specifically.
		Jim Travigan was a congressman who passed on the House floor utilizing our soldiers on our border.
		You know, we're guarding the borders in the Mideast, we're guarding borders all over the world.
		Our troops are going for lunch over in Italy and going for the theater in Germany, and our borders are wide open.
		See, I was labeled a bigot because here's my position on immigration, Alex.
		Number one, let's put our troops on the border.
		It's a national security check line.
		And if you're in America illegally, you should be...
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Mexico treats American citizens like trash and shakes them down.
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		Hey, listen, here's the way I feel.
		If you're an American citizen, I don't care what ethnic group you are, you're one of us.
		But if you're not, you've got to be thrown the hell out of here.
		Now, both these parties are catering to a growing minority Hispanic vote.
		It's getting larger in America.
		It is larger than the black vote.
		And both these parties are giving them everything they want, meaning...
		Meanwhile, you got a healthcare system out of control, you got approximately 15 million, truth be known, illegal immigrants consuming welfare and different programs in this country with falsified documents.
		And no one, neither party is dealing with it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Congressman, let me stop you.
		I got a guy that worked at Austin Energy here, and I already knew this.
		It's 800 plus sanctuary cities.
		But the illegals get a fake consular matricula, they pay a $200 down payment, or $250 depending on the size of the contract, to Alex,
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		It's so out of hand that it's a joke and it takes me to the national health care bill.
		My God, America needs a health care bill, but there's deserving people who need some assistance.
		But you've got about 15 million illegal immigrants who are going to be involved in this thing and the American people are bankrupted.
		I don't I
		don't Congressman,
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Congressman, we gotta break.
		Come back right there and continue with the saga of your years of imprisonment and we will continue breaking down why you were persecuted and now your comeback kid status.
		We want today to get people to support you, get you back on your feet and launch as an independent because you certainly are a maverick.
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		If you want to support Mr. Trafficant so he can get back on his feet and then Get justice and go after the criminals that put him in prison, but that's how they bankrupt you see can't defend yourself It's four to nine four to nine North Main Street four to nine North Main Street And that's Poland like the country four to nine North Main Street Poland,
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		And I've studied his case.
		I've also studied Governor Don Siegelman's case.
		And back at the time when they railroaded him, we looked at him.
		So this is completely staged.
		Turned out U.S. prosecutors that work for Karl Rove, he ordered it.
		They've testified to this now.
		Get him.
		They kept coming after him.
		Investigation after investigation.
		All made up.
		Lying. Then they threatened to indict one of his employees for something totally separate outside the Capitol and said, lie about him.
		We won't send you to prison.
		Basically, same thing happened to Mr. Traficant, Don Siegelman.
		Now, he got out after nine months and has been vindicated and it's admitted it was a fraud.
		He was going to serve a decade.
		Not with Traficant.
		He was there seven and a half years and they told him, and he'll talk about this in a moment, anytime you say you're guilty, we'll let you go.
		Now, so first they try to pull some medical scams on him.
		They put him in with the illegal aliens.
		They put him into gladiator school.
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		Well, at some particular point, you know, you made the statement that you have to stand on your own two feet, and you have to be prepared for almost anything.
		And I had an awful lot of enemies in the prison system, and I didn't know exactly who or how someone might come at you, so you sleep with one eye open, Alex.
		But the bottom line was that I not only did that, that I developed what I consider to be a firm resolve.
		And one thing Nelson Mandela said, you never really know a country unless you go through their prison system.
		And that's one thing he was exactly right about.
		You see the other side of the United States of America.
		We've got such crippling problems.
		But I survived.
		I was not afraid to survive.
		I told them where they could shove that pardon because I certainly wasn't going to admit to something that I didn't do.
		But very few people know is that before that trial, the Northern District Court, Federal Court System of Ohio, passed a rule that if you got a judge from a particular area, you got a jury from that area.
		And it would become the trafficking rule.
		Because basically nobody in my congressional district was eligible to serve on my jury.
		Second of all, the judge made my witnesses testify in open court under the threat of perjury to her outside the presence of a jury.
		And they told her the truth.
		No one was charged for perjury.
		But she did not allow them to testify.
		And four of those people said that of the seven people who testified against me, they had admitted to somebody close or whomever who had confided in me that they lied so they wouldn't go to prison himself or have their wife indicted or their kids indicted or their company taken away, etc, etc.
		Four of the seven.
		She didn't allow it to go to the jury.
		Now we find out after the trial was over, one of the key witnesses against me, who was perjured himself in my trial because he was caught Now, Congressman,
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		let's break this down though.
		The type of threats you got when you were in Congress, and how you got set up.
		There's this crisis of confidence now, because police all over the country, in every major city of Texas, just as an example, have been caught planting drugs on people to take their property.
		It's now standard procedure, they admit, they have informants lie on the stand about political enemies they have.
		I mean, they can put anybody they want in prison, but The public now knows it's a fraud.
		It's like the death penalty.
		I'm for the death penalty at a grassroots level.
		If they catch somebody who's murdered a kid, the problem is more than a third of those on death row has been proven with DNA or totally innocent.
		We know that the system is so corrupt you can't trust anything they say or do.
		So, but briefly, because I remember seeing it in the news, Well, you're under constant threat.
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		With me, I did months and months after end in the hole, in isolation.
		Because they said my attitude.
		But basically, they were trying to break me.
		And I survived all that time in prison.
		I never even acknowledged the presence of any of the wardens.
		Hold on a minute.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's go back over this.
		So explain it.
		They said some little punk jail guard, some sadist, has this congressman, this icon, and they're telling you, I don't like your attitude, boy.
		You're going to spend how long in the hole?
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		Well, they find out or use little maneuvers that they have.
		I believe I spent close to seven months in the hole over a period of time.
		And that's in the hole means that you get a shower every second day, three times a week.
		You get to go out one day, one hour a day.
		And I tell you the truth, Alex, I never left the place.
		I don't That's We're
		good. Well, sir, you've been vindicated and that's all over the press.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you have officially been vindicated like Governor Siegelman, but he only got nine months, you got seven and a half years and got financially ruined.
		How are you going to come back at him?
		I mean, you now have the Secret Service agent, you have all these other witnesses against you recanting that it was done under pressure.
		You've got to get on the attack in my estimation, or correct me if I'm wrong, or they're going to try to set you up again.
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		Right now, there's a man in Washington, D.C. that was pressured to lie against me.
		He's a brilliant man, Richard Detour.
		He could fly any aircraft, and he's a brilliant engineer.
		And the government wanted him to be a witness against me because he was very intelligent, very credible.
		And they wanted him to say that he saw a businessman give me an envelope with money, thousands of dollars, in my office.
		And he basically said, I won't do that.
		I know, Jim, if he's done something wrong, go after him, but I'm not going to lie.
		They come back to him later, and they pressured him to say that he was standing outside the door, and he heard the transaction.
		He said, I just won't do it.
		Now, his attorney that he had was a former U.S.
		attorney who was pressuring him along with the government.
		So he fired that attorney, and they indicted him to keep him out of my case.
		The bottom line is, here's how egregious it was.
		When they brought the witness to testify against me in trial, he stated that he gave me the money in an automobile in Youngstown, Ohio.
		But the government...
		Clearly on record as trying to pressure Richard Detour to say that he saw the transaction in my office.
		And it was the prosecutor who was doing this.
		By the way, the prosecutor's now working for some insurance company in Columbus, Ohio, and everybody's scared to death of what happened because they know that I'm not as afraid to speak my mind.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's stop there for a second, former Congressman James Traficant.
		I'm sure you're aware of Don Siegelman's case.
		It's, even 60 Minutes reported it was all a staged deal.
		The majority of these former state attorneys, U.S. attorneys, came out and said it was a fraud.
		A bunch of Republicans came to his aid, even though he's a Democrat.
		They, it's now admitted, ordered one of his aides to lie and say he saw the check, the same thing, and it turned out that was a complete lie.
		So this is, and it's now been confirmed, Karl Rove ordered this.
		Do you know specifically, in the U.S. Attorney's Office, who gave the orders to set you up?
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I do.
		I don't know who exactly did it, but it was supervised by Michael Chertoff, who they rewarded him, making him head of Homeland Security.
		It was over, and they made the prosecutor in my case, number two man in the Justice Department, right underneath Gonzalez.
		He was Deputy Attorney General there, until this thing hit with a fellow in Nigeria, and now the fellow in Washington, D.C., who spent a million and a half dollars, he was acquitted in about Because his attorney called him and pressured him, his own attorney, trying to encourage him to lie for the U.S. government against me.
		And what he did is he had a retired Navy captain who worked with him, listening on the other end of the phone.
		And he then went ahead and did an affidavit.
		If you read the affidavit, you'd get sick to your stomach, Alex.
		Terms like this, there's no reward for honesty, Richard.
		They're going to get this guy.
		Why throw yourself in the mix?
		You didn't do anything.
		Don't have to indict you or do something to you.
		So just go ahead and tell them what they want to hear.
		They're going to get traffic.
		And just go ahead and do what they want, Richard.
		This is what I'm up against.
		Now, let me tell you what.
		Here's the difference between me and Sigelman.
		60 Minutes come in and did a story on Sigelman.
		I'm going to tell it right the way it is.
		When you're the number one target of the American-Israeli Public Affairs Committee, 60 Minutes don't have anything good to say about you.
		Now, that's putting a hay where the goats can reach it, Alex.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Were you warned?
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		If I didn't have this powerful Jewish animus against me, I think I'd be a very rich man for what they did.
		But I'm still the top target of Israel.
		Quite frankly, I think they're delaying that trial over there in Germany because they do not want me to testify over there in Germany.
		They're hoping that old man will die in Germany.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's expand on this Israel situation.
		Let's go through from the start.
		When did you first get on the Israeli lobby's radar?
		Were there back-channel threats to you in Congress?
		Did they warn you to back off first?
		What happened?
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		Well, first of all, right when I was running, they tried to get me $10,000 cash.
		I told them, you keep your money and I'll keep my vote.
		So I think I was targeted before I ever walked down there.
		Second of all, I tried to cut foreign aid every year for everybody.
		I was asked a couple times to exempt Israel, and I said I wouldn't do that, and I never could pass any cuts.
		I worked hard to try and, you know, we have people sleeping on steel grates, and we're spending money overseas.
		Don't make much sense to me.
		But finally, it became that demonetization.
		I was called a Nazi supporter.
		I suffered great...
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		How did you get involved in the case?
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		They came to me, Alex, because they knew they were from Cleveland.
		They knew the government hated me.
		And they came to me last.
		They said no one would even talk with them.
		In fact, I was in my office overhearing the conversation outside, and they said we come to Jim last because no one will talk to us, and we didn't want to come to Jim.
		We know the government hates him, but we have no one to look into our plate.
		And he says, you know, and I never forget the son.
		I heard the son say, look, I never had a speeding ticket.
		I can't talk to an elected representative.
		My father's not asking to talk to him.
		I'm asking, what the hell's going on here?
		I said, send that young man in to me.
		And when I did that, Alex, my staff told me almost verbatim, if you get involved in this case, you are finished as a congressman.
		You're already on the hit list for your cutting foreign aid.
		You get involved with this case.
		Now, what the newspaper didn't print, they all printed, Travigant Supports Nazi Mass Murderer.
		What they didn't print was what I told the family.
		When they came in, I said, look, your father's been convicted of mass murder.
		If he is guilty, I could truly go over and pull the switch.
		But I believe you should be able to at least state your case to somebody in government.
		And it should have been your own congressman, your own senators.
		They said no one would talk to them.
		I got involved.
unidentified		And when I found out, Alex, that he was not Ivan.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Think about this.
		You're a congressman.
		Well, I started to get...
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		I was known in Congress for taking a look at things objectively, and people were not afraid to confide in me.
		Before long, I started to get whistleblower activity.
		And the whistleblower type of things I got led me to certain conclusions.
		And I moved with a Freedom of Information Act request on Demonyuk, and they just kept throwing it in file 13 and saying, classify, classify, classify.
		And what I did is basically tricked them, Alex.
		I started to look around and I researched, was there ever anybody tried for war crimes who was located at that Treblinka Poland concentration camp?
		And there was a man from Chicago, a Ukrainian, who ended up coming to the Chicago area by the name of Theodore Federico.
		He was tried for war crimes in America at Treblinka and was acquitted in America.
		And he looked just like the other guy.
		Yeah. Well, no, I got the documents I got from the State Department was in response to a request for information from one of our agents, Just Department agents, over in Germany years ago.
		ago and it had on the bottom Alex it said they had another hundred pages in the file I immediately got on the phone and I called 100 pages and that woman sent them to me and Alex when it come over 100 pages and that woman
		them to me and Alex when it come over it had testimony of trials of everybody who identified Ivan the terrible as a man named Ivan Marchenko but the big thing was there was a photograph in there of two Nazis and the guy identified the photograph as follows he said the small man on the right is talk to with the pistol the tall man on the left is Ivan Grozny
		man the Jewish prisoners feared the most Ivan Marchenko now I had this and I went on the house floor and I said Ivan the terrible is a man named Ivan Marchenko and when you ever hear the Justice Department His name is Ivan!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		and the only thing is he looked a little similar to the guy living in Ohio.
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		Not really.
		When you hear this, the Justice Department went public and said there were two Ivans.
		Now, you know what I said?
		I said you sure there wasn't a swing shift, and then I showed the photograph.
		With that happened, everything went underground.
		The Justice Department shut up.
		Next thing you know, I'm over in Israel.
		And I think it became a real issue.
		I got to give credit to the Israeli Supreme Court.
		The Israeli Supreme Court looked at the evidence that take this man home.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But see, that's the issue.
		The Israeli Supreme Court says he's innocent.
		You have the secret files.
		It proves it.
		Meanwhile, the American-Israeli groups after you.
		Stay there, Congressman.
		This is amazing information.
		James Traficant's our guest.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Bob Chapman, the International Forecaster, is coming up at the 8 after next hour.
		Former Congressman James Traficant will be with us another five minutes in the next hour, and he says he wants to come back.
		We really appreciate his courage.
		I've studied him.
		I've looked at what he's done.
		I looked at why he took the case of this supposed camp guard.
		Turned out it was just all lies.
		And the government knows that.
		The Israeli Supreme Court ruled that.
		Why did the Israelis tell the truth about this, but then in America, the Israeli lobby came after you?
		Is it two different groups, or one different group?
		You were telling me during the break you think this is all going to hurt Israel and that's not what you want?
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		No, absolutely not.
		I think I've been branded as anti-Semite, and quite frankly, I am in support of Israel.
		I support Israel when they're doing what's right.
		When they do something wrong, I'm not going to be remiss here and not mention it.
		I believe that they have undue control of our government.
		But I'd like to say this, to start with.
		The Israeli Supreme Court gave a lesson in justice to the United States of America.
		This was the most controversial Okay, again on this other charge, and the Israeli Supreme Court would not allow it.
		So let's give kudos where it's due.
		Let's give it to Israel and their Supreme Court.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		so then how does the Supreme Court of Israel agree with you and the government files that prove it 100%?
		Why is AIPAC Putting you in prison?
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think it's...
		Once you're targeted, and they fired a woman in 1990 or 1991, I don't know if you remember this, Alex, a top-ranking woman in the American-Israeli Public Affairs Committee, and she gave out their hit list of the politicians that they wanted to get rid of, and Jim Travickin was the number one target in the world.
		And I think it was because the way I handled that case, no one would help me.
		And I went to the House floor, and I dramatically presented myself And now Germany's hold this guy off is on the death's doorstep.
		Yeah, I think they're holding and delaying this, because I firmly believe that they do not want me over in Germany to speak out on this issue.
		I think they're holding this case up, holding that the old man will die over there.
		But what a shame.
		He was not guilty, Alex.
		Bottom line, and let me say this, when you allow one citizen's rights to be trampled, you endanger the rights of all Americans.
		What the hell is wrong with us?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's why I support you because, I mean, I looked at the facts and I really don't have any strength to do that, but this fella in Washington D.C., this Richard Detour, may file suit.
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		If he does, I will then back up into that suit as well.
		It's going to be a long, hard struggle.
		But I think that there's so many revelations to do that it's going to surprise an awful lot of people.
		But right now, I'm looking politically.
		I'm looking at politically, not just for vengeance, but looking politically because I think America needs somebody to speak out on what the hell's going wrong, who's not afraid to speak out, who's not controlled by their party.
		I think too many of the politicians today have allegiance to the party, allegiance to the American people.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And so you're planning to run as an independent?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Give us the battle plan.
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to run as an independent, and this is a Democrat area.
		My chances aren't great, I'll be quite honest, as an independent.
		But I just don't see...
		I can't see anybody following Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid into battle.
		And Bobby, damn, beam me up if I'm going to be involved in that party!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It would be impossible for me to do that.
unidentified		I would be so, so castigated here.
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		I have to basically run as an independent.
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		It would be hypocritical for me to Okay, we got a break.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		One minute, sir.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Stay there.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is our last chance to not relive history.
unidentified		They'll be pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.
john perkins ▲ ● ▼		We have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.
jesse ventura ▲ ● ▼		I think it's incumbent upon all of us as American citizens to pay attention.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		For the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation, the criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists!
unidentified		They're asking for more matches!
unidentified		And the Congress is saying, Who do we make the check out to?
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, he doesn't do a lot of interviews.
		He did a big one on Fox News, as you know, a while back that sent shockwaves across the country.
		But he's been on with us for an hour, and he says he'll come back soon.
		We're very thankful.
		James Traficant, I was asking you during that one-minute break, former congressman, other key points, and you brought up the fact that you have people in Washington that are telling you you are being watched, and that there was a big secret investigation about the D'Namio case, but it was about how did Traficant get the info?
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, when I brought him on, the big investigation didn't center about, you know, how they suborned perjury to ruin this man's life, and this was a capital offense, they were going to put the death penalty.
		It wasn't about how they withheld evidence about how they have violated civil rights.
		It was, how did trafficking get this information?
		Imagine that, folks.
		I mean, it's unbelievable some of the things you hear.
		So, I just worked very hard.
		I just put my nose to the grindstone and kept going, and that's about it.
		That's all you can do, Alex.
		But I'll tell you something.
		We've got a real problem.
		No one should fear our government.
		The government, if anybody, they should be fearing the American people.
		American people are the government.
		It's really a crying shame, and it's got to be changed.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We also need to thank your wife in all of this, Patricia Traficant.
		She stood beside you, you stood beside her, and for better and worse, and people, if they do write checks to try to get you guys back on your feet to the address, I need to address those you were telling me to, Patricia Traficant, 429 North Main Street,
		Poland, Ohio, You know, Alex, I've gotten volumes of mail all through the seven and a half years, and one of the reasons I got them is people followed my little one-minute speeches.
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		And I just didn't do them to grandstand.
		I made salient points during that time and dramatized things that I think had to be made.
		But I became known for the statement, Absolutely.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We've got about a minute left here.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What's the time frame for the election for people to start getting behind you in Ohio?
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		Well, that means I'll be on the ballot in the November election, but I have to get signatures signed.
		I have to get petitions signed up until May the 3rd.
		I need a couple thousand signatures here, and it's going to be an uphill struggle.
		I'm not supportive of any newspaper, any political party, any entity of anything.
		It's an uphill struggle, but you know what?
		I've had it.
		And maybe get back to where we started.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And we're going to get some domains and just give them to you to make sure whoever the volunteer is doesn't just get a domain and keep it.
		We've already grabbed some domains.
		We're going to give them to you.
		You need to get a volunteer to build you a nice website with PayPal buttons, the rest of it.
		Get everybody doing these petitions now because we do need you in Congress to counterbalance all the offshore corporate forces and others that are doing this.
		And thank you so much, former Congressman James Travacan, for your courage.
		And we're all praying for you and we're glad they weren't able to kill you or break your will.
		Well, I'd like to thank you for having me on your show.
james traficant ▲ ● ▼		You've got a great show.
		You get a great message to the people.
		I think if I could leave anything there, I'd just say, tune in to Alex's show, and I hope you get more coverage around the country.
		I think they need to hear a rational voice like yours.
		Well, thanks for having me, Alex, and good luck.
		Beam me up, but you don't need it down there in Texas.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, every Friday in the third hour, Bob Chapman of TheInternationalForecaster.com joins us.
		We're going to him in a moment.
		Hopping in via video Skype, PrisonPlanet.tv viewers and audio for radio listeners.
		We're going to have about 10-15 minutes coming up at the bottom of the hour with Mike Rivero to give us his take with Bob Chapman on the Kamikaze attack in Austin.
		The media trying to say it was the tea parties that did it.
		As I predicted before the media even said it, they would.
		Very, very suspicious.
		We're going to recap all of that coming up and of course wide open phones on the Kamikaze attack coming up in the last hour.
		We totally open phones in the last hour.
		Today we've reached the halfway point here in the four hour radio broadcast.
		I'll be back Sunday.
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		You just heard Traficant on.
		Bob, I know you're on hold.
		Man, it's good to see him up and fighting like this and surviving his railroading into prison.
bob chapman ▲ ● ▼		Well, we certainly need him, that's for sure.
		This guy is fearless.
		As you said, he's stronger now than he's ever been.
		And I hope that his coming back Will cause these people in Washington and in New York City spasms of despair.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, over 90% in polls now want to abolish the Fed or audit it.
		75% are angry, Republican and Democrat and independent at government policies.
		Rasmussen, it's gaining a few points every week.
		I mean, the government is collapsing right now.
		Before we get into all the big developments in the last week in the economy that people tune in to hear your expertise on and your insight every week, the Kamikaze attack.
		Is he a lone angry guy who was persecuted?
		Is it a setup?
		The fact that instantly they said tea parties did it and then lo and behold he was angry at the tax system is very suspicious.
		The reports we got that they had the emergency crews there that was on the local news before it happened.
		We talked to multiple witnesses not just the local newscast.
		The fact that one of our sources in the FBI said There's a lot of conflicting information and that makes it difficult.
bob chapman ▲ ● ▼		We're on the outside looking in.
		We're backing into what we think can be a solution as to why it happened.
		The Tea Party, I don't think, has anything to do with it.
		I think that this man was hounded by the Eternal Revenue Service, and he saw all the things going on around him.
		He didn't like it.
		He was losing what he had.
		He wanted to get back at them, and he was prepared to die to do it.
		And I think that's what happened.
		Continue. As far as the emergency equipment being available before it happened, if the FBI was called or found out that he was going to do that because of something he said on the internet,
		I would think that that would be a reasonable explanation as to why it was there and maybe the FBI was onto the whole thing but probably didn't know how to stop it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Or didn't want to stop it so they could play the victim.
bob chapman ▲ ● ▼		Well that's true too.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean if they're coming down to Austin or they already have emergency equipment out there and all this is going on, they knew where his airplane supposedly was in Georgetown, why weren't they there?
bob chapman ▲ ● ▼		That's a good question.
bob chapman ▲ ● ▼		So, if all of that is fact, that they did know where his plane was, they should have been down there guarding it or impounding it or something.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, we're not sure.
		I mean, this is what the source said, and that's just one of many reports, as we tried to put all the evidence out there for all of our collective minds to come to a conclusion on.
		What about the larger issue?
		I mean, Traficant off air was going, hey, what about Austin?
		You're down there.
		This guy was fed up.
		We're sick of it.
		And then on air, he said similar things.
		A lot of people out there want to believe that he did it on his own, and they like it.
		And I think that overall is dangerous because Northcom and the Globalists normally bomb themselves as a pretext to crack down.
		And I mean, I just think we're making such inroads right now peacefully.
		I don't know if targeting Secretaries in an IRS building is a good idea, or a good thing, PR-wise.
		What's your take on that?
bob chapman ▲ ● ▼		I agree with you completely.
		And you know, we've preached this on all of the shows that we've been on.
		Don't get sucked into the vortex of the government getting you to do things that they would like to do themselves.
		But if you're dumb enough to do it, well, go ahead and do it.
		And so with that said, We don't want violence.
		And I feel very bad that the man is now deceased.
		And there had to be another solution.
		I would say in retrospect, too bad somebody wasn't around who could have calmed him down and taken the ideas of destroying himself and in the process, Possibly killing innocent people.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, here's what we know now.
		And I predicted this yesterday morning and now they've done it last night and today.
		They want to put body scanners in, x-rays, security at all airports.
		Most airports maybe have 10, 15 planes.
		They're all over the place.
		And this will destroy general private aviation if they bring TSA level control into the small airports.
		Now they announced yesterday, they already started this yesterday morning before this even happened, the Viper teams are now popping up everywhere with random checkpoints on the streets and at bus and train terminals.
		So, they're certainly using this to put a giant police state Stasi in.
		What's next?
		Do people use cars to run over cops?
		Will we ban citizens having cars?
bob chapman ▲ ● ▼		Well, I also heard yesterday of someone who defended their home by using a sword.
bob chapman ▲ ● ▼		And so they'll have to start outlawing swords, and of course butcher knives, and just about everything.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, Oklahoma just passed a law that you can't fortify your home with more than three deadbolts.
		You can't have burglar bars.
		They're now illegal because the criminal government wants in, and so do their little buddy criminals.
bob chapman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I saw that.
		They're going all the way, there's no question.
		And they're trying to draw us into this.
		Again, what you've said is very positive.
		Don't go out and commit suicide like this gentleman did.
		It's not a good idea, it's not good for you, and it's not good for what we're trying to accomplish.
		We want to get people like Jim Traffickant back into Congress.
		We want to get anybody into Congress except the people who are there, with minor exception.
		And goodness knows, you've heard me say this over the last A couple of years on this program.
		We have to.
		We have to take Congress away from the people who are being paid off.
		If we can do that, we can get the Fed Reserve audited and then gotten rid of.
		We can get rid of executive orders.
		We can get rid of the Plunge Protection Team, which is a working group on financial markets, which is a Bob Chapman.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		With Ceausescu in Romania, or Stalin, or Hitler, or Mao, or any of these thugs and dictators, Pol Pot, pick your poison.
		I've seen a lot of police writing me letters, and they say, yeah, it's coming to the point where they're going to have to make decisions, and when government goes bad, it's no longer legitimate, and it's natural, God-given rights for people to defend themselves.
		And what I've been shocked by is the level of anger of the public cheering this guy on, and it's real, it's not provocateured.
		I wonder if the government, and I mean the minions that are going to be facing the true brunt of this, realize what 150 million gun owners, 16 million guns sold in the last year, 14 million last year, already more than 2 million this year, realize that if 1% of that 150 million decide to stand up and fight, that is 1.5 million people.
		That's unstoppable.
		Don't the globalists understand that they may have put us to sleep for a while, but those old Americans, 1776, It's gonna be cultural and tribal.
bob chapman ▲ ● ▼		450 million guns, 80 million veterans, 40 million that have been in combat.
bob chapman ▲ ● ▼		Don't anybody tangle with them if it comes to that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's bad news.
		You know, the military puts out the line, we'll crush the American people.
		Folks, no one can stop a guerrilla army of this size.
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john perkins ▲ ● ▼		And they really are calling the shots.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We've got Mike Rivero popping in for about 10 minutes with Bob Chapman on the kamikaze attack and the latest developments to get his perspective.
unidentified		Thank you, Tim.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That I tend to agree with on a lot of fronts.
		Too early to tell right now, though.
		We're gonna get his view coming up.
		Bob, right now, and then when Mike leaves us, we'll get back into the economy.
		What's going on with the economy?
		A month ago, you said they were gonna target Greece.
		Well, first of all, I wrote about Goldman ten years ago when Greece and Italy were trying to qualify and the term I used was Uh, they're Mickey Mousing the books.
bob chapman ▲ ● ▼		And the rest of the Eurozone at that time, which today only makes up 16 of the 27 Euro, uh, European Union members, uh, they looked the other way.
		They wanted that union, and so they got it.
		And those books have been phony all along.
		And as we have found out, it's been proven now that Goldman Sachs arranged the whole thing.
		Where's it going?
		I think it creates a sense of urgency now.
		I think things are starting to come unglued even more quickly than I had anticipated.
		I think there's a possibility that they may bring down a number of these countries' sovereign debt prior to the election, and it may include the United States.
		And if they do that, there may not be an election.
		Now, I'm not saying that's going to happen.
		And I don't want to give these people any ideas, but that would be the perfect thing to do to get control.
		And so that's possible.
		Whether it's probable, I don't know at this point.
		But there are a number of countries that are on the edge.
		We've got Ireland, Italy, Portugal, Spain, and which we know about.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then nobody ever hears about Latvia, Estonia, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, And that will send debt shockwaves a lot bigger than the housing bubble throughout the planet.
		Meanwhile, the Chinese are already moving and dumping their U.S.
		T-bills. That's correct.
bob chapman ▲ ● ▼		And even Denmark's having problems, of course.
		The two worst, really, for their size, is Great Britain and the United States.
		Now, I think what government wanted to do, or those behind government wanted to do, is, after the election, start these things going by taking all of these countries to the edge, and then having a meeting,
		like they did with Smithsonian and the Plaza Accord and the Louvre Accord, and revalue, devalue currencies and have a debt default between nations, and everybody falls off a cliff together, and we have everybody devaluing their currencies, or most everybody.
		And then we go into a deflationary depression, which they want to, from behind the scenes, people like Goldman and Morgan and Citigroup and all of those people and the Bilderbergers and all those groups, they would then try to suppress the people of the world, quote, legally while they were on their knees financially and economically.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's expand.
		Let's expand on that.
		We now see open discussions of devaluation of the dollar and we also No, I don't think taxes are the answer.
bob chapman ▲ ● ▼		The real answer is to cut government spending all over the country, not just in Washington.
		I mean, let's cut it by 50%.
		So you gotta lay off 30% of your employees?
		Well that's too bad!
		This is really the solution, purging all of those banks and insurance companies and brokerage firms and transnational conglomerates.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And let's explain that though.
		All the studies show one government job costs two private sectors.
		So you get rid of the government jobs, a lot of them, then you get two jobs back for every job you get rid of there, and people have their own tax money, that would fix it.
bob chapman ▲ ● ▼		It's going to happen sooner or later, and they know it.
		They want it on their terms so they can control it, so they can make people do what they want to do under those circumstances.
		And that's why all the things that you talk about in regard to what's going on in America about Homeland Security, and you can't put bars in your windows, and all of these things, that is because they know the public.
		is going to be very, very disturbed about all this, and who knows what they'll do.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Stay there, Bob Chapman!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Our guest straight ahead joining us, Mike Rivera.
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		Because, again, this building got hit at about 955 Central.
		I learned about it at about 1030 when I got into work.
		And we've been all over the map.
		Before they said Tea Party, before they tried to blame it, I said it's a government building.
		Watch them try to blame it on the Tea Party.
		I was right about that.
		Then we have a source that said the FBI was dispatched into Austin about a threat to a government building.
		They don't know specifically because it was another department.
		They just saw it and saw them leave.
		Could that be something else?
		Who knows?
		But we know we've played the KXAN piece where the woman said, I saw the emergency vehicles out here beforehand.
		I talked to multiple listeners who called in and we've talked to some of them off-air as well.
		I mean, masses of calls here to the office in the comment line that, yeah, there were emergency people out there before and we heard the boom.
		Some saw them before, others heard the boom and then went out and saw the police out there with cameras already within seconds.
		Did they know a threat was coming?
		They weren't sure?
		Were they on alert?
		They were having terror drills the day before with FEMA and Homeland Security in the city of Austin.
		In fact, bring me that city of Austin document.
		I forgot and left it in there.
		So we don't know what's going on.
		But Bob Chapman seems to think this was just if somebody fed up.
		Traffickants leaning towards that.
		And I wasn't leaning really towards that.
		I wasn't sure.
		We're looking at everything until I began to notice, and I noticed that Rivero also, because he's worked with the media, he recognized this, that real terror attacks, or real attacks against government, they tend to ignore.
		This was so big they couldn't ignore it, but that suddenly it kind of left the news cycle today.
		It was gone.
		With the underwear bomber we know was staged, it never left the news cycle, and they had something they were pushing.
		Like they're staging fake cyber attacks right now to get through the Senate.
		No doubt that's fake and staged.
		So I wanted to get Mike Rivero's take on what he thinks going on here and then pop back in with Bob Chapman who's with us as well right now.
		Mike Rivero joining us via video Skype from Hawaii.
		Good to have you here with us.
michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		Thanks an awful lot for having me on your show, Alex.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, give us your bottom line on with all the evidence this early on we're not sure but what you think's going on.
michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		Well I'm definitely leaning toward thinking this was a genuine spontaneous action by this gentleman who He's just an ordinary working American and he got pushed to his limit and he snapped and we all have a breaking point and I think the media was attempting to spin this to make him look like a demon and a bad guy and then when that really wasn't working my concern was that the media was going to try and pull away the focus as quickly as possible which as you point out they're doing today it's all Tiger Woods all the time and I think what's in there is we need to understand
		that from the point of view of the government and the media their big priority right now they don't I don't want people actually reading this guy's suicide note.
		They're calling it a manifesto to make it sound like it's a bad thing because the commies had a manifesto and the Unabomber had a manifesto.
		So this is a manifesto and you shouldn't go read it.
		But everybody who's actually read this suicide note, nobody condones what Joe Stack did.
		But everybody seems to say, I understand why he did it.
		We are all at that breaking point.
		We're seeing the work of a lifetime being taken away from us.
		You know, under threat of force, spent on wars, spent on corruption, spent on Israel.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And much of Congress and Geithner and the White House don't even pay taxes.
michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly right.
		That's further annoying a lot of people.
		And we've got callers into our show from people who've been thrown out of their homes by the IRS.
		A woman called into the show.
		Her veteran husband had been neglected by the VA for nine months, came down with cancer.
		The week he died, the IRS took her bank accounts.
		It's just a horrific story out there.
		And everybody understands what this guy was feeling.
		They don't agree with what he did, but they understand where we're coming from.
unidentified		That's right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It was bad enough.
		It was bad enough with the IRS.
		Go ahead, Mike. Yeah, you're right.
michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		Most people are still trying to be polite and say, yes, I'm a loyal American.
		And there was a survey they did about, is it okay to cheat on your taxes?
		And I expect probably most people lied on that one as well, because they're afraid of, you know, they're afraid of the IRS.
		The IRS is the instrument of terror in our society.
		And again, nobody's condoning what Joe Stack did.
		Everybody who has written into my show or called into my show, they understand why he did it.
		I have not heard a single word of sympathy from anybody regarding the IRS in this affair.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Talking to you this morning on the phone, you were saying the government's scared.
michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		Yes. Absolutely.
		Because if there's one thing that Joe Stack has accomplished, it's kind of in a positive sense.
		It has made the abuses of the IRS acceptable in polite conversation.
		People are now willing to talk about how many of them are in serious trouble with the IRS.
		You've seen the flood of TV commercials for all these tax resolution services.
		You know, that alone tells you that most of Americans are in some kind of tax trouble.
		And now, because of Joe, it's okay to talk about it.
		It's okay to talk about the abuses of the IRS.
		People are even now openly talking about, was the 16th Amendment actually ratified?
		Are the taxes illegal right from the start?
		I understand Jim Traficante, and by the way, please give him my highest regards when you have him on the show, he's talking about if he gets elected back to Congress, he wants to kick the IRS in a very sensitive portion of the genitalia.
		So, and I think most Americans are going to sign up with him on that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		In your mind, is there any way this could have been an inside job?
		Because, you know, we know they can remote control aircraft.
		We know that they were out there beforehand.
		Something was going on.
		We know the underwear bomber was staged.
		I mean, this is the season.
		I've been predicting an attack in Austin from activities I've been seeing.
		They need to demonize the tea parties.
		They certainly jumped on this within three hours of it happening, and I predicted they wouldn't set the tea parties.
		I mean, here's the New York Daily News.
		Kamikaze pilot Joe Stack.
		Crash plane into Austin building, hailed by anti-government groups.
		And they say in here that I'm hailing it.
		Austin American Statesman, in an article, social media speeds up news gathering and plane crash aftermath, says that I was hailing the attack.
		I was saying maybe staged or we don't know.
		I mean, so I'm being singled out here.
		They're certainly trying to put this on us.
michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're putting it on you, they're putting it on Glenn Beck, they're putting it on me, they're putting it on Rush Limbaugh.
		They're looking to basically take the focus off the letter.
		As for the exact nature of it, I'm 95% convinced it was a genuine, spontaneous act by this gentleman.
		if it was a false flag attack it's a very poorly thought out one because the patsies that are supposed to be framed for it it's not a very good case and And in this case, back when the Oklahoma City bomb went off and little kids were being killed and everybody was shocked and said, oh, this is a terrible thing.
		They're not getting that reaction here.
		The attitude of most of America is, well, yeah, it's a bad thing, but, you know, maybe they sort of.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But to be clear, you've done the research.
		Oklahoma City inside job.
		Underwear bomber inside job.
		9-11 inside job.
		Operation Ajax inside job.
		Gulf of Tonkin inside job.
		Operation Northwoods inside job.
michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		Gulf of Tonkin was not an inside job.
michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		It was a deliberate misinterpretation of the available information.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But that is still an inside job to say you've been attacked and it's made up as a pretext for war.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What I'm saying is staged provocation.
michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		Well, definitely a lot of propaganda and a lot of lying and misstatement.
		You know, there were no torpedoes there.
		But in the case of yesterday's attack, I think they were trying to take something that happened genuinely and attempt to use it for propaganda purposes, and they didn't get the traction with it.
		It just doesn't feel like it was planned or known about ahead of time.
		They just tried to take advantage of it, and they didn't really get it to work.
		That's what it feels like to me.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's bring Bob Chapman in.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Bob, your comments on this.
bob chapman ▲ ● ▼		Well, first of all, I think it could unfortunately bring about other such events.
		And for all of you who are listening out there, please keep your cool.
		Talk to somebody about a problem.
		I mean, everybody out there's got problems now.
		Some are worse than others.
		I know it's compelling.
		When you lose everything you have.
		But we have a society that we shouldn't be running around killing ourselves.
		And usually the only people that do that are people who become unbalanced.
		And there are reasons for that.
		But the point is, don't let this get you carried away.
		Secondly, in the International Forecaster, I guess it was two issues back, maybe three.
		And I had a piece in there about Remington taking an order, and I can't remember how many.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It was shotguns for the IRS.
bob chapman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, these are sawed-off shotguns.
		Yeah. I mean, 14 inches is a sawed-off shotgun.
		And I think that the IRS, obviously, is terrified that That people are going to react against them.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, for those that don't know, a sawed-off is generally defensive, so people that don't know what they're doing can just aim in a general direction when you're getting rushed.
bob chapman ▲ ● ▼		Exactly. And the legal limit on the shotgun barrel is 18, and that's what a riot gun is.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so the IRS gets to have illegal shotguns.
bob chapman ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		Well, it's obviously legal for them, but illegal for us.
		And like so often, we have two sets of rules.
		But I agree with what Mike had to say, and very well said.
		And you as well, Alex.
		And I think, unless something else pops up, I think it was an act of utter frustration.
		What am I going to do?
		I worked my whole life.
		And I may as well make a statement.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, here's the last question.
		Here's the last question I have for Mike Rivero, and then you.
		We're going to let Mike go, and we'll finish up with some economic news a little bit in the next hour, Bob.
		Mike, how do you see this unfolding?
		Because undoubtedly there's teachers almost every day shooting principals or their students.
		There's violence.
		Cops are being caught robbing banks and raping people.
		I mean, statistically, crime, but also craziness.
		is way up, and a lot of times it's by government, because they're under stress, and a lot of them have a bullying psychology, and you've got citizens being pressed and squeezed and driven into a corner.
		No doubt, just like if our government attacks Iran, we're not going to have to see staged terror.
		Iran will defend itself.
		It will be called terror.
		Just like as the government squeezes, they know they're going to force people to finally stand up, and they're going to call that terrorism.
		How do you see this unfolding, Mike Rivero?
michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		Fading away from the public consciousness, although Joe Stack is already sort of a cult hero in a lot of places, got a lot of Facebook fan clubs springing up.
		There's nothing new with attacks against the IRS.
		Generally they tend not to be reported, but because of the high visibility of the plane crash into the building and the subsequent release of the suicide note on the internet, this one did get out there and it had to be dealt with.
		but there have been attacks against iris facilities and people before and no doubt it will continue into the future I'm in agreement with your other guests.
		You know, this is not a call to arms to go out and start attacking the tax people because that would just give the government the justification it needs to suspend the Bill of Rights and really become the bullying dictators that we all know they secretly lust to be.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I don't want that to happen, but I think that would be a miscalculation by the establishment as well.
		I think them bringing the tyranny more out in the open and getting more confrontational will only make things blow up quicker.
		So this is like a Mexican standoff.
michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		I agree with you.
		I mean, we have the saying around here, the fastest way to bring down a dictator is to force them to act like one where everybody can see it.
		I just don't want to see the kind of Kent State bloodshed, you know, that this kind of a process usually entails.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely. Well, Mike, thanks for joining us.
		WhatReallyHappened.com is a great site.
		We'll talk to you again soon.
michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		Thanks an awful lot.
michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		Look forward to it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		There goes Mike.
		Uh, anything else you want to add on the plane situation?
		I'll be recapping the latest developments in the next hour.
		I am open on this because I've been predicting an attack in Austin.
		I've seen Glenn Beck now come out and put on his little blackboard, uh, slash magnet refrigerator board.
		It's really what it is, but it looks like a blackboard, Deborah Medina next to Van Jones.
		And he said, these people hate America.
		Then he did a weird psy-op where he said, well, I'm in trouble in Texas with my listeners.
		He's lost 500,000 viewers conservatively, according to Nielsen.
		His radio numbers, we'll find out later, earlier next month, those come out once a month.
		But his websites, anywhere people can comment, he's being shredded everywhere.
		He does this basic psychology where he puts up a picture of a Van Jones and then some other Weatherman bombers next to him and then sticks Medina up.
		And then Alan Keyes, of all people, and says, these people are dangerous.
		They hate America.
		And he's not just saying 9-11 truthers are going to stage terror attacks.
		He's now saying the birthers are the most dangerous, that these are the most dangerous, when in polls that's more than half of registered Republicans.
		So he's like immolating, I guess that's the word for burning yourself up in front of everyone, because he's been ordered to do it.
		So I, and I see all the talking points demonizing Tea Partiers that they're going to commit terror acts by not just him, but Chris Matthews the last few weeks.
		And then this happens.
		I don't know, Bob.
		I don't know.
		This may be staged.
		They have psych warfare experts that knew people are angry, may make him a hero.
		Then, I mean, this, I don't, I think the jury's out on this.
		I'm saying we should look at everything, but I'm just not sure.
		But then the media quit.
		Covering it today.
		We know if it was staged, they'd be hyping it, but maybe it wasn't going like they wanted, so they pulled back.
		What do you think, Bob?
bob chapman ▲ ● ▼		I think we've just got to wait and see.
		You know, they're always looking for another hoarse vessel.
		He was the young street tough who was in the brown shirts who was killed in clashes with the communists in Germany.
		And the Nazis made him into an ideal.
		In fact, they had the Horst Wessel lied, which is the song of Horst Wessel.
		And we don't want that to happen.
		We don't want someone to come along who is going to be cited by the government In doing these kinds of things so that they can move against people who agree with him whether it's Joe Stack or somebody else And we got to stay away from that, you know, we're doing very well Doing what we're doing and this is very important.
		I saw a figure and you quoted some 8% of the public voting public Want to bring back their congressman or senator Yeah, That means 92% want their people out of office.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I've seen that number.
bob chapman ▲ ● ▼		It is so powerful.
		It is so good.
		We don't want to lose that momentum.
		We want them all out of there so we can get the legislation legally that we need.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And we want to take the states back, which is why Deborah Medina getting elected is so important, to send that message.
		Bob Chapman, stay there.
		Coming up in the next hour, I'm gonna open the phones up.
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		And we're gonna have Rob Dew in our office, who knew Joe Stack, in studio, in the end.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're going to have Rob Doo, new Joe Stack, in studio the last 20 minutes.
		Bob Chapman now with us for a few more segments.
		We're going to open the phones up for a few questions for Bob coming up in the next segment or on any of these issues.
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		Now look, the media said a lot of different aircraft, but we have the tax records.
		It was a PA-28 Cherokee aircraft, a Piper.
		Is that a Piper?
		Registered owner, Stack Joseph A. Okay?
		That's the aircraft.
		The media was saying this Cirrus aircraft.
		That's not what it is.
		Now here's the Texas Division of Emergency Management document.
		Give me a document cam shot on this, guys.
		Texas Division of Emergency Management, fiscal year 2010, training calendar October 2009, September 2010.
		Here's February.
		They were running all these different emergency, multi-hazard emergency planning drills and others.
		And all the drills ended on the 18th.
		Yesterday. So maybe that's why those vehicles were out there.
		Maybe it was just part of a drill, or maybe not.
		They only run drills in association with this.
		Bob Chapman, going back to you, so much is happening with the economy separately.
		What happened with gold going down the last month, now surging up again?
bob chapman ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think that's a good question.
		And, you know, we've just had gold negative news, supposedly.
		First of all, uh...
		the uh...
		situation in greece was uh...
		in the media interpreted as being bad for gold and of course it it really wasn't uh...
		could go didn't go down and then we had uh...
		the i m f come out and said well you were going to sell some gold and that turned out to be a non-event and then you know higher interest rates is been touted as bad for gold and uh...
		going down to come back up again and so uh...
		gold seems to be impervious in here To the downside.
		And it's up $4.60 right now here in the late trading for the April month.
		And that'll go on for about another hour.
		The stocks are mixed to slightly weaker.
		And, you know, it's a Friday.
		People are evening up the books.
		And so it's hard to get a real read on it.
		But if I had to guess, I think gold will be up next week.
		If it goes through 12-20-24 in that area, then we're going to very quickly see a move up toward 1500 to 1650.
		And if it doesn't happen by the beginning of April, it may very well happen before the end of the year.
		Although I think much more quickly, especially in view of what I said earlier about the The problem's being expedited.
		I don't think that Goldman Sachs ever thought that they would run into the buzzsaw that they're into right now because of their secret advice to these different nations and how to keep two sets of books.
		And of course, it's against the law, but that doesn't mean anything for the likes of Goldman, Morgan, and Citi.
		I mean, these people are criminals.
		And I spent 28 years in Wall Street.
		I think I got a right to say that.
		And so I think that this is causing the alumnus behind the scenes to have to, even though they don't want to, expedite what they're doing.
		And every time you do that, you make mistakes.
		And I think by next year, all this thing's going to start coming down.
		And, you know, as I mentioned earlier, were they to bring it down in October, down being the sovereign nations defaulting simultaneously, and having chaos within the financial world worldwide, would give them an excuse not to have an election.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Bob, stay there.
		Let's come back and talk about that.
		Because that's quite an announcement from you.
		A year and a half ago you saw the implosion in three years.
		Now you may be revising.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It is already the fourth and final hour of this Friday edition.
		Bob Chapman of TheInternationalForecaster.com is our guest.
		I'm Alex Jones of M4Wars.com and PrisonPlanet.TV.
		I want to say hi to all the great radio listeners out there and also the PrisonPlanet.TV viewers who are such key supporters of this radio show.
		You make it all possible.
		Now, Bob's going to be with us until 15 after.
		We're going to get more into the economy here in just a moment and have him continue with that question I just posed.
		He's saying he believes they may be moving up their time frame to fully implode things because every day they lose more credibility.
		And that's scary from Bob because he's always been, you know, saying it's further out in the future.
		We'll talk about that coming up in the next segment briefly before he leaves us.
		Right now, let's take a few calls.
		It'll be on a bunch of issues.
		Alex in Canada, you're on the air.
unidentified		Yeah, it's Alex in Vancouver.
		I was going to say, I've always, I've had the gut feeling they're going to do something at the Olympics for a long time now, maybe about a year.
		I've always said, you don't spend a billion dollars on security and then not stage a terror attack.
		And now on the heels of this, I really feel that They're stirring up 9-11 memories, and everyone's thinking 9-11, 9-11.
		Well, they don't even have to say terrorism, but you're still thinking 9-11.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because it's a plane into a building, yes.
unidentified		Exactly. And ever since that article about two weeks ago by We Are Change Vancouver about the possibility of a false flag, Kinder Morgan being bought out by Goldman Sachs, and the Carlyle...
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And now it's in a Canadian newspaper, I meant to get to that, that they've caught police provocateurs again.
unidentified		And they, uh, lost about two times ammonium nitrate mysteriously.
		Now my big thing is I started thinking now, when are they gonna do this?
		And what I came up with is February 22nd, 2-2-2, because we all know they love to use silly numbers.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		3-3-3-7-7-7-9-11.
unidentified		And that being three days away, this happening right before that, they're stirring everyone's thoughts up about terrorism, 9-11-9-11, and all of a sudden on Monday morning, we'll see if I'm right or not, hopefully not.
		I've gone as far as to bet people money this is going to happen.
		Now I know that's kind of immoral.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I hope you're wrong, but Alex, I appreciate your call.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's get a comment from Bob Chapman on that.
bob chapman ▲ ● ▼		We'll just have to see.
		You know, the possibility certainly exists, and they are into numerology, and I'm surprised that something didn't happen in Vancouver.
		And I know people who I talk to all the time who live there, and many of them, you know, many subscribers there.
		And they say that they've...
		It's like a guarded camp.
		And, you know, the Olympics haven't gone over that well.
		The American Idol is outpointing them, so to speak, which is rather surprising.
		And it just hasn't drawn what The producers would have liked it to drop.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, people are sick of police states.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Most Europeans won't come here now because of the police state.
bob chapman ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's true.
		In fact, what's happening is that most Americans don't want to fly and only fly if they absolutely have to.
		And you can tell that because of the dropping amount of people who are using airplanes in America commercially.
		And the price of tickets continues to soar.
		They're up about, I would say, 40 to 50 percent over the last few years.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But see, we have the head of NASA climate and the UN people and others saying they want to make us stop flying.
		They want us to stop driving.
		There's some stratas of business that don't like it.
		Some big airline CEOs saying don't put the scanners in from Australia to the U.S. But the real head honchos, they love the fact that people aren't traveling.
		Your take on that, Bob?
bob chapman ▲ ● ▼		Well, I can't figure that out.
		You know, we're looking at a situation where If they're people who are running airlines and they don't want people to fly, they're not going to be in business very long.
		Now, if they're executives with other companies, well, that might be, you know, the hardy lines to speak by the elitists.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But... No, that's what I'm saying.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The airlines, all of them are saying they don't like it on record, but Chertoff's got to make his little bit of money, so it's over.
bob chapman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, that's disgusting.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Chertoff, man, he looks like a vampire out of an Osferatu movie.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, literally.
bob chapman ▲ ● ▼		Maybe we can cast him.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We ought to put a picture of...
		Nosferatu up next to Chertoff.
		You can't...
		I mean, literally, it's like they're twin brothers or something.
		Bob, stay there.
		Let's get into the economy.
		And after Bob leaves, just Ron, Jennifer, Fred, Dan, others.
		Wide open phones.
		And then in the last 20 minutes, I'm gonna have somebody who knew Joe Stack in studio here.
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		Your work's disinfecting spray is EPA certified to kill sparrows.

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