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unidentified		Big Brother.
		Mainstream media.
		Government cover-ups.
		You want answers?
		Well, so does he.
		He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
		And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Red alert, ladies and gentlemen.
		Red alert.
		President Obama Has introduced bills in Congress like H.R.
		1022 that allows the Attorney General to have unlimited power, God-like power, to ban any guns or erect any gun laws he wishes through the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives.
		Cass Sunstein, his regulation czar, has given speeches and written white papers we covered last week saying he does not believe in a Second Amendment individual right and that they will overturn the Second Amendment.
		They've tripled the size of the BATF under Bush.
		Now Obama has them doing knock and talk all over the country, even in conservative states like Arizona and Texas.
		They knock on your door and say, may we come in and look at your firearms.
		They have local police under federal grants doing it.
		Just Google knock and talk.
		Police inspect guns.
		I've seen footage in Massachusetts and Boston and places where they force their way in To people's homes.
		I mean, it's completely illegal.
		This is tyranny.
		Now, all of that is going on.
		All of that is happening.
		They want to be able to put you on a no-gun-buy list with no judge, no jury, no conviction.
		They've got a bill to do that called no-fly, no-buy.
		Now, last night on the Sunday radio show, I got a call saying that the Texas Gun Show, that comes to Austin once a month, That the police were there giving out notices saying, with the BATFE, now it's Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, that there's no law, but we're ordering you not to privately sell guns.
		Now, you have federal law under taxation, under the 68 Gun Control Act, that they then expanded into the NICS system, and then they expanded that in the 90s with the assault weapons ban that got overturned.
		To where they instantly register you as a gun owner, handgun, rifle, or shotgun.
		And in Canada, England, Australia, New Zealand, once they register and Handgun Control Incorporated and the Violence Policy Center admit their goal is Total disarmament.
		UNIDIR at the UN.
		United Nations Small Arms Disarmament.
		July 7th, 2001.
		UN records said their plan is for a treaty to ban guns in the U.S.
		Obama said last month he plans to sign that treaty this year.
		That is mainstream news.
		Associated Press.
		Obama says he will sign the treaty.
		Even if Congress doesn't ratify it.
		If the Senate doesn't ratify, he's saying he's going to do it.
		They are now coming for the guns.
		They first got a ban, you being able to sell it to your grandpa, your grandpa sell you one or give you one.
		They've tried at the Texas legislature and other legislatures under federal funds to get the states to ban the so-called gun show loophole, implying it's criminal and bad and it's a loophole for private sale of guns.
		The laws they tried to pass in 2000 and 2002 in Texas said you couldn't even sell a gun to your neighbor or to your son or daughter or your father.
		It ends private commerce.
		It's unconstitutional.
		They use a taxing mechanism for people that sell guns full-time.
		They've got to have a federal firearms dealer license.
		They're harassing them, shutting down the majority.
		More than half the gun shops have shut down in the last 20 years.
		In many major cities, there's not even one gun shop left.
		If you don't dot an I, cross a T, literally, they arrest you.
		At these people that sell hundreds of guns a day.
		It is all harassment.
		Now, I've got Officer Jack McClam waiting in the wings, but I want to go over this because we're now simulcasting the radio show at PrisonPlanet.TV.
		I want to put on screen the InfoWars.com article.
		There is the public notice, the actual scan of what was handed out in Austin Friday, Saturday, and Sunday at the Texas gun shows.
		We have a direct link to the Texas gun show.
		Give me a document cam shot on this please, Craig.
		Vendor Notice Austin Gun Show Rally.
		At the direction of the Austin Police Department and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.
		At the direction!
		No law!
		We will not be allowed to set up and sell firearms at the North Austin Show.
		They just said you can't do it.
		No law, no nothing.
		Blow up for people on PrisonPlanet.tv, the actual yellow notice.
		Now, listen to this notice carefully.
		Listen to it carefully.
		Public notice selling of firearms at the direction of the Austin Police Department.
		At the direction, no law, not even a city law, that's unconstitutional.
		And the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, anyone selling a firearm at this show location, will be asked to comply with the following.
	Asked to comply.
	So there, it's illegal, color of law, intimidation, they admit you're being asked.
	Now here's where the real felonies come in, of official oppression, of color of law, of civil rights violation of the Second Amendment, and also of commerce clauses for right to contract and sell.
	Because then they go too far.
	This is the notice they printed off, the police handed out, under BATFE control, under federal control.
	Any person selling a personal firearm must go through the licensed FFL dealer.
	Must.
	That's illegal.
	No law listed.
	They're just ordering you.
	Any person selling a personal firearm must.
	Must.
	Blow that up on screen, people.
	Write up to the letter for the word must.
	Any person selling a personal firearm must go through a licensed FFL dealer in the show to transfer the firearm to the new owner.
	Must!
unidentified		2.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Selling of firearms in the parking lot will not be permitted.
		Thank you for your cooperation.
		Like it's out of The Running Man or something.
		Thank you for your cooperation.
		This is the essence of tyranny.
		When government just comes in without a law, anything, and says it.
		Now all over the country, literally hundreds of times, cities and counties have passed unconstitutional laws saying you can't sell your neighbor a gun or go to a gun show and have a private sale.
		They've all been overturned.
		The state legislature has had to pass laws against this type of behavior.
		They didn't even pass a city ordinance.
		They're just doing this.
		They don't even have an unconstitutional regulation or ordinance.
		They just did this.
		And the gun show, we're going to get on the broadcast, is asking people to sign a petition to the Texas Attorney General to stop this.
		But we've confirmed this is going on nationwide and BATFE, federally, and local police all over the country are knocking on doors saying, we want to come in and inspect your guns and trying to force their way in without warrants.
		Without even probable cause.
		They're going house to house.
		Remember New Orleans.
		All the guns will be taken, no one will be allowed to be armed.
		They went into high and dry areas, went into women, men, handcuffed them and took their guns even if they didn't resist and never gave them back.
		This is absolute lawless criminal treason by the city of Austin and by the BATFE.
		It's totally illegal.
		You heard the guy whose brother's a police officer where the BATFE came to his door and they said, look, we know it's bull.
		We're being ordered to do this.
		We know it's unconstitutional.
		Well, you better say no.
		You better not follow unlawful orders.
		And for 25 plus years, Officer Jack McClam, Vietnam vet, most highly decorated police officer, cop of the year twice in Phoenix, woke up to this, became the most fired.
		He's with us for the rest of the hour.
		And we're going to open the phones up specifically on issues.
		We have Roy in Texas first.
		He was at the show.
		We're coming to him.
		And then after we take these five calls on hold, the lines are open to police officers.
		Whose side are you on?
		The Bill of Rights?
		The Constitution?
		The people?
		Or this illegal government telling you to violate the law?
		Jack McClann, as a police officer, I know the law, but you're a police officer.
		As a police officer, can you break down exactly how illegal this is and how outrageous this is?
gerald jack mclamb ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
		Alex, thank you for having me on.
		This is insane and totally tyrannical.
		I'm looking at the But this isn't even a law, Jack!
		versus Madison that says all laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void.
		And where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rulemaking or legislation which would abrogate the constitutional rules.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But this isn't even a law, Jack.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is just the government's God.
gerald jack mclamb ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm saying.
		This is totally unconstitutional.
		And when they go into the gun shows to arrest somebody for doing this, I would like to see everybody in the gun show grab those police officers and ATF officers and arrest them under a citizen's arrest for tyranny.
		Because that's exactly what they're committing.
		And that's what ought to be done.
		The people ought to grab them and put their own cuffs on them and hold them for prosecution.
		Uh, but now, you know, when I was in Phoenix, Arizona as a cop, me and the other cops saw the most criminal prosecutors, I mean literal criminal prosecutors, that would destroy evidence, manufacture evidence, and pay witnesses to get on the witness stand and lie through their teeth.
		They would pay them big money.
		they're the only ones that got promoted up to judgeships in Arizona.
		And around the country, the same thing happened because the criminals at the top, the terrorists and the treasonous scumbags at the top of our system, they don't want to be prosecuted, so they only elect criminal they don't want to be prosecuted, so they only elect criminal prosecutors to judgeships But, Jack, there is no doubt that the Austin Police Department knows this is illegal and the BATF knows it's a crime.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, they know it's illegal to go around telling people they can't do things without a law.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They know this is illegal.
gerald jack mclamb ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		That's right.
		They have to know that.
		And so it's time for the people to stand up, brother.
		Psalm 94.16 in the Bible says, Rise up against the evildoers and stand up against the workers of iniquity.
		And that's what God told us to do, and we're now hiding in our churches waiting the pre-trib rapture of the saints next week, and we're not willing to stand up against satanic, evil, communist government like we have today under communist abomination.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And his communist By the way, every one of his czars gives public speeches praising Mao and, I mean, these people are criminals.
		Alright, well, stay there.
		I specifically, though, was going off color of law, official oppression, racketeering, civil rights violation.
		From the law, I want you as a true lawman to go over just how illegal this is.
		I mean, this is outrageous.
		Let's get Sheriff Mack on, too, about this.
		I mean, this is incredible.
		They are just declaring they can do whatever they want, that they are the law.
		I mean, this is incredible.
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jesse ventura ▲ ● ▼		I think it's incumbent upon all of us as American citizens to pay attention.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I'm going to Roy, Mitch, Kevin, Pete, and others.
		Roy was at the Austin show.
		It's confirmed the gun show's fighting it.
		They're asking people to sign a petition to the Attorney General of Texas.
		They're saying there's these lawless people here in uniforms with no law or regulation or even fake ruling just saying you can't have private sales of guns.
		Infowars.com headline.
		Feds, cops attempt to shut down legal gun sales in Austin, Texas.
		They didn't attempt, they did it!
		The Curt Nemo story is key.
		We've got to get all the national and local gun groups involved.
		Because I've confirmed that cities are doing this with fake regulations that get overturned.
		This isn't even that.
		They don't even cite it.
		They just show up and say, you must.
		But at the end and at the front they say, we are asking you.
		You are being asked to comply.
		Thank you for your cooperation.
		But they say must in there.
		Jack, I've had a lot of constitutional scholars on, Larry Becraft, Ron Paul, countless others, but I'm asking you, as a peace officer and one of the leading experts in this, am I right that this is a violation of civil rights, constitution, official oppression, intimidation, racketeering, that this is being done through pure color of law?
		I mean, there's so many things that this is illegal on.
gerald jack mclamb ▲ ● ▼		It sure is, brother.
		It's totally unconstitutional.
		I looked up Supreme Court cases, Norton v. Shelby County, that says it's an unconstitutional act.
		Now, that's not a law.
		It's not law.
		It confers no rights, imposes no duties, affords no protection.
		So, this is an unconstitutional act that they're trying to enforce there, and it is totally illegal and unconstitutional.
		And they ought to be arrested for it, Alex.
		You know, they ought to be arrested.
		Citizens arrest on these people because a citizen can arrest when he sees, or she sees, a felony committed in their presence.
		And there are thousands of federal... ...to arrest somebody under this.
		Then they are committing a felony in the presence of the people there, and the people have a right to do a citizen's arrest on these guys and put them in their own handcuffs and hold them until the police get there.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But that's what they're doing is out in the open.
		We have thousands of state and federal rulings about cases with police.
		If a cop's raping somebody or robbing somebody, you know, it is a citizen's arrest.
		That's right.
		Because the citizens constitute the state that then charters the cities.
		They work for us.
		That's how you can arrest somebody that you catch robbing your car.
gerald jack mclamb ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		We are the sovereign in this land.
		And they work for us.
		And they can't do things.
		I like Thomas Jefferson's quote, no free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.
		The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves from tyranny in their own government.
		And that's exactly what's going on right now, brother.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let me stop you there.
		Let me stop you there.
		I want to go more over the history with you as our expert on this.
		But let's go to Roy, who was at the Texas Gun Show here in Austin, Texas.
		Roy, what did you witness?
		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Can you hear me, Alex?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I can.
unidentified		Yes, I've got another little tidbit of information that I found out.
		I had to leave the show at about 2 o'clock, and then I had to come back up there at about 5 to meet someone, and what I found out, what I'd missed, is that they actually led one of the vendors out, who I've known for a long time, they led him out in handcuffs after he apparently sold a firearm to an illegal alien.
		I'm not sure if they're using illegal aliens without IDs to set up some of these... Oh, they're definitely doing stings.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That was my next point I meant to make last hour, was that they're setting people up.
		They're trying to set the precedent and a chilling effect so people don't exercise their right to have private sales.
		So someone refused to follow their illegal order and so they set him up.
unidentified		Yes sir, and what I found out also is that they confiscated some of his, everything he had brought to the show Again, I did not witness this, but it's from a very credible source.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Alright, let me stop you.
		Start at the beginning.
		Recap, how they were giving out the notices, what you saw, the petition against it, what was going on in Austin.
unidentified		Well, a friend of mine, who had come from out of town, who met me at the show, he called me at 8 o'clock in the morning and asked me, hey, are they still having the show?
		Because it appeared dead.
		I said, well, let me check.
		I got on the website, and there's where I first initially saw the notice on their website.
		that you posted, and apparently that was posted Thursday or Friday evening, so it caught everyone off guard.
		And yes, they were handing out those flyers at the door, and every vendor had one of those flyers posted near their items for sale to let everyone know.
		And I was also informed that anyone walking around with a firearm from his personal collection, If he was to sell to someone else walking around, that they had to go over to a FFL dealer in order to complete the transaction and have a... So it's basically having this third party do a background check.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But they didn't, but they cited no law or regulation.
		We have their notice.
		They just said, you will do this because we have guns and we're the government.
		And we're Mao Zedong and all political power grows out of a barrel of a gun.
		Roy, stay there.
		I want Jack McClain to be able to question you on the other side of this quick break.
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unidentified		I want to be clear about something here.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We have the owner of the Texas Gun Show, that's the name of the gun show, coming on in an hour.
		And he wants to come on.
		He said they're doing a petition.
		To the state that this is illegal?
		They were ordered by men with guns to do this.
		The feds show up.
		Police show up.
		It's destroyed their gun show.
		Most people left.
		They are not bad.
		He said he's getting hundreds of mean emails, hate mail.
		They're not the ones doing this.
		It's the government illegally doing this.
		Darwin Bodecker will be joining us in one hour.
		And again, I've got BankerGate to cover.
		I've got Sunstein openly saying he's going to get our guns.
		White House Technologies are.
		We've got them openly announcing they're taking over the web, saying they're getting ready to censor it.
		Italy just started censoring the web yesterday.
		That broke.
		Their government just announced it.
		Australia just started.
		I mean, it's really happening.
		All right, Roy, in Texas, you're still there.
		Jack McClam, you heard the points he was making.
		But we've now talked to the gun show owner.
		Very true.
		Very true, brother.
		through them, and I understand you're saying citizens arrest, but, you know, the average person feds show up with guns and, you know, they've got more courage than most to say, sign a petition and get everybody to fight it there, because the state attorney general is the person and the legislature to come because the state attorney general is the person and the legislature to come down on the APD Very true.
gerald jack mclamb ▲ ● ▼		Very true, brother.
		Yeah, this is, you know, as a soldier during the Vietnam War, I took my constitutional oath to defend the Constitution from internal enemies and foreign enemies, and And now it's being attacked by internal enemies at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue in that area.
		And then I took it as a police officer, a constitutional oath to defend the Constitution, protect the people's rights and freedom.
		And so these guys have to know, they have to know they're violating their oath.
		And so I say they ought to be citizens arrested.
		You know, if you have a hundred citizens that surround these guys, they can't shoot them all.
		You know?
		And they just jump on them and push them to the ground and take their guns away from them and put them in their own handcuffs and hold them until they get somebody there that will enforce the constitutional law.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now, Jack, that's what the law says.
		That if men in uniforms show up and say, give me your daughter, give me your house, give me your guns, I'm God, and don't cite the law, even if it's unconstitutional, then you defeat that in the courts or by redress of grievance or petition.
		This is just literally the Fed showing up, just like knock and talk.
		Where they started it seven, eight years ago.
		All over the country, they come and...
		Knock on your door and say I'd like to come in and inspect your guns.
		They target middle class areas when the husband's gone.
		They target housewives.
		They come in, they look for something illegal.
		No warrant.
		Total fishing expeditions.
		Door to door.
		Just set the precedent to have men come and they have gun buybacks for the news images of police taking guns back and people getting $50 gift certificates to create the perception that guns are illegal.
		Arresting people that sell their neighbor a gun when it's not even illegal.
		to create the perception that guns are illegal billboards up everywhere saying report illegal guns showing a picture of a revolver when they're not illegal to create the perception that they're illegal and to now have the APD under the orders of the BATFE just show up and you know it's going on statewide that's what we're going to talk about in the next hour with the gun show spokesman and owner I mean this is so incredible we definitely We need lawsuits filed.
		We definitely need to find out who this man was that was arrested and set up for doing this.
		I bet a million dollars that illegal alien they sent in to buy it from the guy as a private sale, that that was a set up to try to scare everybody.
		Look, people are being arrested because they couldn't arrest somebody for selling it to a citizen.
		I mean, this is incredible.
		What do you think about what Roy's saying?
		Do you want to question Roy, who was an eyewitness to the signs and them being told they couldn't have private sales of guns?
		That they must do this with no law.
		That's a quote.
		You must, because we say so.
gerald jack mclamb ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think Roy understands that this is totally unlawful, what they're doing.
		It's tyrannical.
		And it's unconstitutional.
		They're violating their oath.
		So I think Roy already knows that, and I don't know if I have any questions for Roy.
		I think he's already answered your questions very well.
		But I just think it's time, brother, for the people to rise up.
		Like Psalms 94.16 says, God says for us to rise up against the evildoers and stand up against the workers of iniquity.
		And the founding fathers were not ambiguous when they talked about the people having the right to keep and bear arms.
		The people.
		Now, we have the government saying, no, no, that was for the National Guard and that's for the army and for the police.
		Well, it is not true, folks.
		Patrick Henry said the great object is that every man be armed.
		Everyone who is able may have a gun.
		James Madison said Americans never need to fear their government because of the advantage of being armed.
		And on and on.
		Thomas Jefferson, Sam Adams said that the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States from keeping their own arms.
		And so they were not ambiguous at all.
		And so these liars and scumbags that are judges and prosecutors and attorney generals and the president of the United States, the phony president of the United States, Barack Obama Nation, are lying to the people when they say that they can take these guns because it was meant for the National Guard only.
		And not for the people.
		All they have to do is read history, and the Founding Fathers were not ambiguous about it at all.
		The Second Amendment is for the people themselves.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's just incredible.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Anything else, Roy?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
		One thing that I find strange about this possibly being a setup with this illegal alien is that at this exact same show, One month ago, I had brought a rifle out of my personal collection that I thought about possibly selling, and I was approached by someone who asked me, hey, how many is that for sale, and how many do you have?
		And then they told me, well, I have a cousin in Mexico that will buy all of them.
		And right then and there, I walked away.
		Because, and you see, this was last month at the exact same show.
		And that's what makes this occurrence that just happened this Saturday even more of a possible setup.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, listen.
		Former federal law enforcement member of the DEA, he exposed that in South Texas they've got hidden cameras in the ceilings.
		They're trying to set everybody up, treat everybody like criminals, busting innocent people.
		And they went and set him up on a gun deal and laughed at him.
		So this is very serious.
		Roy, I appreciate your call.
		I want to open the phones up to police officers around the country that are outraged by this.
		I know I have a lot of listeners that are police, a lot of you that are constitutionalists.
		You send me a lot of key documents that have made national news.
		I mean, this is illegal what's going on.
		I want you guys to also get me Kurt Nemo on the line.
		I want to talk to him live.
		He did a great job writing this article quickly this morning, but I want to add some key points to this article.
		I want him to beef this article.
		It's going to be huge.
		I want everyone to get this article right now.
		This is breaking here nationwide, and we've got to let gun owners know that we're one second to midnight.
		If the feds are ready to come in without even local laws or federal laws and just say you can't sell guns at gun shows, private sale, when there's no law against it.
		I mean this is an... Jack McClam, why do you think they're coming out so bold and so arrogant right now?
gerald jack mclamb ▲ ● ▼		Well, we're coming under a communist system, folk.
		Obama Nation appointed 32 communist scientists as czars over America so he could go around the Congress and the Senate.
		And the czars are all communist Zionists, and he's a communist himself, and he's got to get these guns away from the American people so they can put us under this military rule system that he's got ready to put us under.
		And communist Chertoff was head of the Homeland Security Council
		He hired the two top communists right under him in the world, mass-murdering communists, Marcus Wolf, head of the East German Stasi, Communist Stasi, and Yugani Primakov, head of the KGB, right under him to set up the Soviet-style totalitarian military rule system, because he didn't know how to do it.
		And they've got it all set up today, ready to implement, but they're worried about people having guns.
		So they want to make the guns illegal, even though it's totally unconstitutional.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And let me stop you, let me stop you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're using classic military tactics, where they introduce the legislation, outside of legislation, they do it by regulatory fiat, illegally, unconstitutionally.
unidentified		Right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now, I hadn't even gotten to this.
		This is the executive order, January 11th, creating a council of governors under PDD 51 with Bush.
		You see seamless integration with the different governments, the different executive regimes.
		And it says here that the 10 governors appointed by him will speak for the states during emergencies And in Section A, it says, Homeland Defense, Civil Support, Synchronization and Integration of State and Federal Military Activities.
		In the United States, it goes on to talk about law enforcement integration with the federal government, other matters of mutual interest, including National Guard, Homeland Defense, Civil Support.
		And it goes on to say that it's all under NORTHCOM.
		So, I mean, we have open declarations of a federal dictatorship, and the Russian and European news is freaking out, saying America goes under total tyranny.
		The average American doesn't even know this is going on.
		I mean, they're not moving incrementally anymore, Jack McClam.
gerald jack mclamb ▲ ● ▼		That's right, brother.
		And we've known for years and years and years That an unconstitutional executive order or a presidential directive or executive agreement has no power whatsoever.
		It's unconstitutional.
		If you want to read about it, go to the Supreme Court case Reed v. Covert, signed in 1956.
		And it goes ahead and states there that all of these things, if they're unconstitutional, they carry no weight.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But that's laws that are unconstitutional.
		This isn't even that.
		They just announced they're doing it.
gerald jack mclamb ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's the same thing.
gerald jack mclamb ▲ ● ▼		I think executive order, presidential directive, executive agreement is not law either.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes, you're right.
gerald jack mclamb ▲ ● ▼		So anything the ATF says or local police or state police says that is unconstitutional is also null and void.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Alright Jack, I want to, I know we got Pete, Kevin and Mitch holding, we're going to go to them, but I'm going to open the phones up.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Four police officers, four lawyers, four people that have witnessed this at gun shows, but in fact just police officers at first or they won't be able to get through.
unidentified		1-800-259-9231.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I know a lot of you are finally waking up.
		This is totally illegal.
		What are you going to do if you're ordered to do this, or have you seen similar things, or what's your take on this?
		1-800-259-9231.
		Let's go to Pete in Michigan.
		Pete, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hey, Alex, can you hear me?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I can.
unidentified		Hey, thank God.
		Hey, I just want to tell you, you're my hero, man.
		You're awesome.
		I like everything you're doing, and I'm driving my girlfriend nuts listening to your show every day.
		But on the topic of this violation of our Second Amendment rights, I know somebody here in Michigan that was selling guns at his garage sale.
		Him and some of his neighbors put their guns together and was selling them, and the Sheriff's Department threatened to arrest him because they said he couldn't do that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And there's no law in Michigan, I've looked at the law in Michigan, just like Texas, because I've seen so many cases like this in Michigan, that you can't sell your private arms.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You just can't start buying guns en masse and making it a business, but you can get rid of guns when you need money, and people need money in this economy, and they just show up, color of law, and do this!
unidentified		That's exactly what he was doing, and he wasn't selling assault rifles or anything.
		He was selling hunting guns, you know?
		Shotguns and .
		.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		.
		It's not even that, sir.
		Listen, all guns are basically assault weapons, the way they define them.
		Anything semi-auto, there's no law against that either.
		People don't know their rights.
		So now, the police are so tyrannical in Texas, with the feds, they just say, we're not going to sell them, period.
unidentified		Yup, yup.
		And I'll just tell you that, you know, there's a lot of these people that are calling in and talking to you.
		I've heard him say a lot of good stuff about how, you know, we're being violated, we need to rise up and go against them, but I've never heard anybody mention the law Quo Waranto, and I think that Alex, you should research that.
		It's an old English law, it's called Quo Waranto, and it's under the writ of mandamus, and basically, if any city, say the police come, and they violate your civil rights, Yes, they sure have, and I've been through it repeatedly.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The city is dissolved, no longer exists. - That's right, and the old times, if a lord, that's under Magna Carta, did something wrong, he would lose his lordship.
		Exactly, I appreciate your call, Pete.
		See, our ancestors have been through this over and over again. - They sure have. - That's why those of us that study history know, Jack, comment on that.
gerald jack mclamb ▲ ● ▼		- Yes, they sure have, and I've been through it repeatedly.
		When I took a constitutional class as a cop in Phoenix and started upholding the Constitution, I was fired repeatedly for upholding the Constitution and telling my fellow officers not to do this and not to do that because it was unconstitutional.
		I was fired repeatedly.
		Now, they had to rehire me every time because the Civil Service Board at Phoenix said that Jack has a right to uphold his oath of office.
		And that's all I was doing.
		And so that's been 25 years ago, brother, that I was fired repeatedly for upholding my oath under the Constitution and telling my fellow officers.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then you finally got medically retired.
gerald jack mclamb ▲ ● ▼		I was injured in the line of duty in 1986, again, the final time.
		And the doctors knew that the chief of police, Ruben Ortega, was trying to get me killed.
		Because he told all the officers, if Officer McLam calls for a backup, don't go to his aid.
		And they put me down in the war zone of South Phoenix, where almost daily you needed backups.
		And I was injured a number of times, but the last time I arrested a drug smuggler out of Mexico and was seriously injured in my back, shoulder, and neck.
		And so the doctors, the city doctors, said they were going to retire me out because they knew Chief Ruben Ortega was trying to get me killed.
		He couldn't fire me.
		He couldn't keep me fired for upholding the Constitution.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And if more police would stand together, we could turn this country back.
gerald jack mclamb ▲ ● ▼		That's right, brother.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's go to Kevin in Nebraska.
		Kevin, you're on the air.
		Go ahead.
unidentified		Hi, Alex.
		Hi, Jack.
		Yeah, I just wanted to say that really it is vital that every time that they try to push something illegal, we need to contest it through the courts and through... Yeah, they're trying to set a precedent through common law, through common practice.
gerald jack mclamb ▲ ● ▼		Right, yeah.
		And too bad the people... Yeah, too bad the people are not... the children are not taught the Constitution anymore in school.
		Kevin, I'm gonna hold you over so you can make your point, or go ahead and start making it.
		and school system and demeaning our founding fathers so that the kids, if they hear anything good about the founding fathers, they will remember what the teacher told them, that they all raped their slaves.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Kevin, I'm going to hold you over so you can make your point or go ahead and start making it.
unidentified		Yeah, just that we need to immediately initiate lawsuits and do whatever it takes in the legal realm to stop these people, because if you give them ground, they're just going to take more and more and more.
		That's what they always do.
		And so if we let them roll over us, then, uh, you know, what are we doing?
		We're laying down and letting them just take more and more of our freedom away.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But we stay there!
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		What if I say I'm not just another one of your slaves?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We need to get the gun dealers, the gun shows, the gun shops all over the country to file torturous interference, civil rights violations, you name it, suits against the BATF and cities that unlawfully and illegally do this.
		You'll kill them in court.
		And the BATFE will come in and try to set you up and persecute you.
		But look, they're going to overrun everything if we don't start standing up to them as best we can.
		I mean, there's no doubt about these people.
		We have the gun show owner coming up in 30 minutes.
		I got Kurt Nemo popping in briefly in the next hour.
		We've kept a couple phone lines open for police officers who call in all the time.
		But I guess you're scared to call in now.
		And I don't mean that as a taunt.
		I mean, people are so gelded.
		I know there's cops by the thousands listening right now who are against what's happening and you haven't called in.
		1-800-259-9231.
		I mean, are you outraged by this?
		Just no law?
		They just say you can't sell guns in Austin?
		For folks that haven't seen the article in the public notice for selling of firearms, it's up on Infowars.com.
		Kevin, anything else for Jack McClam?
		McClam?
unidentified		Yeah, I just wanted to say that I think with, you know, American Center for Law and Justice and all kinds of other lawyers out there, a class action lawsuit would be viable against any level of the government and any agency in the government when they're doing stuff that's illegal.
unidentified		And that's one of the ways that we need to fight this, I think.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate your call.
		Under Bush, when they tripled the funding for the VAT-FE and started moving in with regulations instead of laws and just color of law, we knew the storm was coming.
		It's now here, Jack McLam.
gerald jack mclamb ▲ ● ▼		It certainly is, brother.
		And we have that tyrannical communist in office right now that are going to use these things.
		Because they've trained for the last 30 years the citizens in elementary school and high school to not look at the Constitution anymore, look at international law.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, Jack, look at New Orleans.
		First chance the feds had.
		They blocked food and water, went into the undevastated dry areas, into literal $10 million houses.
		I mean, the richest area, and handcuffed people, and took their guns and treated them like criminals and never gave their guns back.
gerald jack mclamb ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		They should have been sued by all these rich people.
		All these rich people should have sued them.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They did, and the federal court said give them their guns back in damages, and the feds said we're not going to give them back.
gerald jack mclamb ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're not above the law.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, the point is, they want our guns, they want our guns, and we know they're training to take them.
		And I've got mainstream news here, Jack.
		LAPD on course to take over Explorer program.
		And then we have the New York Times with scouts trained to fight terrorists and more, and it says they train to take on disgruntled vets who won't turn in their guns.
gerald jack mclamb ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		They're taking the Boy Scouts and the Girl Scouts, too, and training them to use guns to take over, to help them take over the nation.
		And that is insane.
		I mean, it's absolutely insane, but it's totally tyrannical.
		It's the same thing happened in Germany during the Nazi regime and under Stalin, under the Communist system in Russia, too, in East Germany.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And by the way, when you say they hired Primakov and Wolf, that was actually in the news.
		They really hired the former head of the KGB and the former head of the Stasi to come set this up, and this is exactly what they've done.
		I mean, they're really doing it.
gerald jack mclamb ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and now we have lesbian Janet Napolitano, who's head of the, who's a CFR member, who's the head of the Homeland Insecurity, and she's got the Thank you for listening to GCN.
gerald jack mclamb ▲ ● ▼		rule system ready to go with communist abomination tells her to bring it into power.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Jack McLam, we really appreciate you joining us and spending time with us.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And we'll talk to you again soon, my friend.
gerald jack mclamb ▲ ● ▼		Okay, God bless you, Alex.
gerald jack mclamb ▲ ● ▼		And Alex, for what you're doing for God and the country.
unidentified		Thank you for listening to GCN.
unidentified		Be sure to visit GCNlive.com today.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is our last chance to not relive history.
alan watt ▲ ● ▼		As they're finishing off this agenda, they'll be pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.
john perkins ▲ ● ▼		I have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.
jesse ventura ▲ ● ▼		I think it's incumbent upon all of us Tim Geithner?
		Bernanke?
		They're arsonists!
		They're asking for more matches!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The Republic identifies the enemies of our nation.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.
unidentified		Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists.
		They're asking for more matches.
		And the Congress is saying, who do we make the checkout to?
g edward griffin ▲ ● ▼		Today, it seems like nobody does care.
g edward griffin ▲ ● ▼		And right now in Washington, D.C., we have seen a fall of the republic.
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		And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Coming up in 30 minutes, we have Darwin joining us.
		Mr. Darwin, Morta Decker is the spokesman for the Texas Gun Show, that's the name of it.
		We have the public notice up on Infowars.com.
		Color of law, it says you must comply.
		No private sales of guns, which is legal in almost every state.
		Private citizens get to sell the guns they've bought for themselves at flea markets, at garage sales to their neighbors, at gun shows.
		And they've tried to ban this all over the country, federally and at the state level.
		They've been defeated.
		So now in Austin, the BATFE and the Austin police just showed up at the gun show and said, it's all shut down.
		You're not doing it.
		Then had some illegal aliens sell it to some private seller who refused to follow it.
		And the BATFE is all over it trying to set you up because it's not illegal to sell it to your neighbor.
		Somehow they claim, though, that if it's an illegal alien, and of course the illegal always tries to tell you they're illegal to sting you, so they're doing anything they can to go after law-abiding citizens.
		I want to go to Keith in Ohio.
		He says he's a police officer.
		Mark in Florida.
		I appreciate them having the courage to call in, in this once-free country, to give us their response to this.
		We talked to the brother of a police officer when the BATFE did knock and talk, coming to their door where they show up and say, we want to talk about your guns.
		Let us come in and inspect them and enforce their way in.
		And he was freaked out.
		Keith, in Ohio, what's your take on all of this?
unidentified		Well, Alex, it's just one more step down that path to trying to take firearms away from the private individuals.
		In Ohio, we had a couple years ago, state sales agents came to the Dayton Gun Show.
		And went around and started issuing tickets to everyone for not having a vendor's license.
		And they got about halfway through the show, and they went to this one guy who was set up there, and they asked him for his ID, and he gave it to them.
		They wrote him a ticket.
		He said, what you're doing is illegal, and you're going to get in trouble.
		And they started saying, we know what we're doing.
		He goes, your boss is so-and-so.
		Yeah.
		His boss is so-and-so.
		Yeah.
		I'm his boss.
		And you're handing out tickets to people who have already paid taxes on items and they're reselling them at private sale.
		And he said, all the citations you've issued are illegal.
		So they were going around trying to get them pulled back in, and a bunch of the dealers had already left, the private dealers.
		Now, the vendors licensed dealers and the firearms dealers were still set up at the show.
		And in doing so, Mayor Bloomberg this year came out and sent undercover sting operatives to the show, That's right!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Bloomberg!
		Stay there, I'm going to hold you over.
		This is so key, you know, because I recognize the cases you're bringing up and this is a very important call.
		Bloomberg is in more than 14 states.
		He's even down in Florida sending his undercover people into other states so he can then try to sue your states like he is the king of the country.
		Go ahead.
unidentified		Yeah, what they did is they were coming into the gun shows and then going around and trying to buy off of private sales.
		And then after they'd agree on price and stuff, they would drop a hint that maybe they couldn't pass a background check or do some other stuff.
		And then they were using selective video, not using all the videos, and then trying to shut down the Dayton gun shows.
		Well, what happened is the guy that runs the Dayton gun shows, Came out on his own and he's issued little booklets that he hands out at the gun show, making sure everyone's following the state law.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's how you do it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You get everybody together to realize the stings are happening or they kill our culture.
unidentified		Right.
		And what they did is he's issuing these little booklets to educate sellers.
		on how to recognize a straw buyer or how these things happen, and giving them out saying, look, you've got to just check he's a resident of the state, that they're over the proper age if it's 18 for a rifle or a shotgun or 21 for a handgun.
		You verify their driver's license, they verify yours.
		That makes it legal sale in Ohio without having to go through the next background check.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But again, under common law, a citizen can sell to their neighbor.
		It's not their fault if it turns out the neighbor was a bad guy.
		You know, the answer is more guns, less crime.
		Stay there.
		I want to come back to you, Keith, and let you finish from Ohio.
		A police officer, then Mark in Florida, police officer.
		And we need more police officers to speak out so you're not ordered to engage in tyranny.
		And it's the citizen's job to stop this.
		The Austin Police Department is outrageous.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		For those that just joined us, this is how tyranny works.
		In the past, they would have cities and counties pass unconstitutional local ordinances against private sale of guns at Flea markets, gun shows, garage sales to your neighbors, to your grandson.
		Giving a gun under the law they tried to pass in Texas to your grandson is a crime.
		We beat those laws.
		So the BATFE, the feds, are running around all over the country just intimidating, stinging, harassing, trying to set up people at gun shows.
		In Austin, they don't even do that.
		They just say, no more private sales.
		You've got to register it all.
		You've got to go to the NICS system with no law, not even an unconstitutional local ordinance under them.
		And they know this is illegal.
		They know.
		And Keith, as a police officer in Ohio who's seen this go on, but who have been successful against defeating it, I mean, what is your take on just how much trouble the APD and the BATFE should get in trouble for, or what laws you believe this violates, or regulations?
		And separately, what would you do if you were an Austin cop ordered to do unconstitutional things?
unidentified		If you do something unconstitutional, you have a process, and it's usually in most law enforcement agencies, it's written right into their standards and procedures, you do not have to follow a lawful order.
		Period.
		If it's unlawful, it is unlawful and you do not follow it.
		If you get a write-up for it, you get a write-up for it, but you're going to end up winning that because it goes against your policies and goes against the laws of the state of wherever you're working.
		And any administrator who tries to force you to do an unlawful act by coercion is also subjecting himself to a USC 1983 lawsuit.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But then they don't promote you.
unidentified		That's sometimes the case, but you have to have the sand in the wheels, so to say, to slow down this train wreck.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And you have to get good police chiefs.
		I mean, why?
		Twenty years ago, police chiefs were always from the town.
		Why do they always bring them in, Department of Justice recommended, from some far-off city?
unidentified		Big money buys big power.
		And in our state, in Ohio, we have the big cities of Cleveland and Cincinnati and Columbus and Dayton and Toledo.
		And their chiefs of police, and somewhat to the effect their local sheriffs, are influenced by that big donor money.
		And they follow the party line.
		The small county sheriffs are pro-gun and pro-Second Amendment.
		The big city ones are pretty much influenced by the large donors from those, say, left-wing radical organizations that don't want guns.
		They have a bigger crime violence in their cities, and they think that that's just due to the fact that guns are readily accessible, even though the Bureau of Justice statistics show that less than 1% of U.S.
		gun crimes came from gun shows.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, people don't rob heavily armed rural areas or cities where people are heavily armed.
		The crime statistics are voluminous that the cesspits of crime are Chicago, New York, and L.A., every major city that has massive victim disarmament legislation.
		And I'm going to go to another police officer, but Keith, in closing, in 1775, the Revolutionary War started Over gun confiscation, and the resistance was led by the local constables, by the local police and sheriffs.
		And I believe that's going to happen again.
		That's why Obama is creating a Council of Governors, so he can rubber stamp and take over the states, but still claim that the states some have authority, but he appoints the governors.
		That's why they've set up Homeland Security.
		But they've got a problem.
		Most of the military and police I talk to are fully awake and upset about what's happening.
		We see national studies.
		98% of police said they're pro-Second Amendment.
		So how can this be happening if 90 plus percent are pro-Second Amendment and the police and military are awake?
		I mean, is it that the leadership are a bunch of globalists?
unidentified		Well, I wouldn't say that the local leadership are, but on a national level and the large donor base is of that mindset.
		Are police officers starting to wake up faster in your area?
		ramp the grants towards that type of stuff.
		You apply to try to get grants to help out your local small agencies due to budget cuts.
		And the wording and the way that they ramp those grants out makes you have to take the bait and buy into their programs to get it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Are police officers starting to wake up faster in your area?
unidentified		Yes.
		The rural law enforcement officer is from the local community.
		He is of the local community and has the mindset of the local community.
		The big city ones are often people that are pulled out of the socialized institutions, the big city, and they don't have the same mindset.
		The local officer is covering three, four, five hundred square miles by himself.
		He realizes that an armed populace is a very good benefit to him when he needs a backup.
		and allow your local agencies all have that policy that they can deputize somebody on the spot to assist them in apprehending a criminal.
		And, in fact, in Ohio, it's still the law that it's a civil penalty if you do not aid a law enforcement officer.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Same thing in Texas.
		Same thing in Texas.
		I mean, my mother, growing up in Austin, when somebody got out of the prison or the jail or the lunatic asylum, and she lived near that, the sheriff would just drive around and knock on doors and say, come help me.
		Get your rifles.
		Now, if you try to do that, the police will gun you down in my town.
unidentified		In Ohio, that law still exists.
		It's sometimes used in the rural areas where somebody's trying to apprehend a criminal and somebody, usually just a good citizen, will jump out and try to assist that officer.
		But the statutes are still on the book for that to happen.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We need to get back to that.
		That's real homeland security.
		Keith, thank you so much for calling.
unidentified		Thank you, Alex.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is shocking to me, though, folks.
		This isn't using business license write-ups or bureaucracy.
		This is just showing up and saying, we are going to lawlessly... That's what lawlessness is.
		No law!
		I mean, it's one thing if a law is unconstitutional, but just to show up with no law and say, we're shutting down your private sales at the gun show?
		Let's go to Mark in Florida, then Curt Nemo.
		Mark in Florida, another police officer.
		What do you think of this?
		Here's the notice right here.
unidentified		It's disgusting.
unidentified		Totally unconstitutional and people should put up a red flag and not go along with it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What do you think went through the minds of the Austin police when they were ordered to go help the feds do this?
unidentified		You know I think it's like you were talking about the knock and talks earlier and you know people just give in.
		Most of the time they'll just let officers come in their house and search or do whatever and it's the same thing with traffic stops.
		Police officers make traffic stops every day for a traffic violation, and then they say, you might have fucked your car, and 95% of them won't stand up and say no.
		And they'll know that they have stuff in their car that's contraband, but they won't do it.
		And people just need to not be intimidated, and they need to stand up.
		And if we all stand together, they can't put everybody in jail.
		It's just disgusting what's happening in this country overall.
		It's just terrible.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I want to warn everybody like I did in the first hour.
		The New London Kelo decision said private interest can take your land without paying you.
		And that's what tyranny is.
		This is all being done so your pension funds can be taken so that taxes can be raised to pay interest to the foreign banks.
		And that's why this is happening.
		That's what Homeland Security is for.
		And so all these domesticated cowards that are scared of guns and the Second Amendment, they need to know that tyranny isn't going to stop just with their guns.
		This is only the beginning.
		Mark, I mean, points you want to make about this?
		Statements you want to make about this?
unidentified		Just that people need to wake up.
		I'm trying to wake up my officers as much as I can.
		For instance, at the beginning of the year, I did a little presentation at Roll Call, my predictions for 2010.
		And it kind of opened up the door.
		And I had an officer approach me the other day, just before Roll Call, and he said, hey, I watched Jesse Ventura last night.
		And then I had to start Roll Call.
		I didn't get a chance to talk to him.
		So later on in the evening, I sent him a message and I said, Hey, you want to stop and get some coffee?
		And he said, sure.
		And so we had an opportunity to, you know, to talk about issues and stuff like that.
		So that's what I'm trying to do.
		I'm trying to get people woken up to it.
		I'm trying to get people on the same page because we need to stand together.
		That's the only way that we're going to win this battle.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And Mark, I agree with you because I told MSNBC yesterday when they came to interview me for Chris Matthews for a documentary he's making for MSNBC, I explained to the lady, I said, this has all been scripted and we have the Rand Corporation and all their own admissions.
		They want to squeeze the people.
		They want to push the people while brainwashing the police against the population.
		So the police get abusive.
		The public starts hating the police to make us enemies with each other.
		And they do plan to have a violent revolution in this country that they're going to use to bring in total police state.
		In the process, local police are going to be devastated.
		We need to stop this now.
		We need to not have this go to violence, but the establishment wants it.
		They are pushing because they're going to be off in their ivory towers in Europe and in New York with their bodyguards, and they're going to have you, Mark, with all these officers under you, sounds like you're an officer in your department, marching out to engage in tyranny as they bring in unlimited illegal aliens and criminals, as the society implodes, marching out to engage in tyranny as they bring in unlimited illegal aliens and criminals, as the society implodes, as crime rates explode, as the society falls apart, It's not just police that we see becoming more and more corrupt.
		I mean we are a sick society and we need good leadership like yours and others to take the risk Of sticking your head up to the tyranny, because the risk is greater to go along with it.
		We know where this river leads, over the edge of the falls.
		We've got to get out of the comfort zone now.
		We have got to... I mean, I've got chills right now, folks.
		Do you realize how real this is?
		The danger we're in?
		I mean, almost every single member of the Obama administration gives public speeches saying they're communist and they like Mao Zedong.
		I mean, you cannot make this magnitude of evil up.
		Mark, God bless you.
		Good to hear from you.
		We're going to come back with Curt Nemo briefly.
		I want to have a talk with him live on air.
		You can kind of see some of the behind the scenes that goes on here.
		It enrages me.
		It angers me.
		It also exhausts me.
		I mean, it's illegal.
		The police can't show up and say you can't sell guns without a law.
		You can't do it!
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		They order the APD to go down there and say no private sales, which is completely legal.
		They've tried to ban it at the legislature over and over again.
		I mean, if they get away with this, the sky's the limit.
		I want to bring Kurt Nimmo up.
		He wrote a very important article, Feds, Cops Attempt to Shut Down Legal Gun Sales in Austin.
		Steve Watson has the headline at PrisonPlanet.com, VATF Notice Bans Private Gun Sales in Texas.
		They did ban it.
		And then to make it look legal, they had some illegal alien, we're confirming this happened, people witnessed this arrest, go in and some old guy was trying to sell a shotgun.
		He sold it to the illegal, which wasn't illegal because it's a private sale.
		It's not his job to know that under the law.
		You still have that private right.
		He wasn't a gun dealer under federal control and they arrested him.
		So they do that.
		In these staged events, go into Curt Nemo.
		Curt, we need to really get on this and go over what Jack McClam pointed out, go over the points I made, the police officers that called in, how they've tried to use, I remember seeing that in the news in several states, Ohio, Pennsylvania, other places, where they go in and try to ban private sales through local business licenses, but they can't ban garage sales, they can't ban All of these different events.
		Though the Feds put a ruling out this year.
		Remember the Fox News headline?
		Five years in prison for garage sale.
		So they're trying to implement this.
		You've already paid tax on something.
		You're allowed to resell it.
		So they trial these regulations.
		Now they're not even doing that.
		They just show up and say no sales.
		I mean, that is tyranny.
		When they just announce, I've got a gun, I've got a uniform, I'm your God.
kurt nimmo ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know Alex, even under the Federal Firearms Ownership Protection Act of 1986, people aren't required to do background checks on people they sell guns to.
kurt nimmo ▲ ● ▼		So they're even violating their own laws against the Second Amendment.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Be sure and add that.
		That's right, we've passed laws to stop this before, and they just break the law.
		They're not just breaking the law, making something up when there's no law, they're breaking laws.
kurt nimmo ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		You know, like I told you prior to coming on, this is a totally egregious violation of the Commerce Clause of the Constitution.
		And I think legally, if people are going to stop this kind of nonsense, that's what they're going to have to go to is, you know, go to the Supreme Court and argue that this is a violation of the Commerce Clause of the Constitution.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, we need to hit them on all fronts.
		We need to stop this in Austin right now, Kurt.
		We need to just churn out more stories, more of the angles, and point out to people, you've done a great job with this one article, that this is completely illegal.
		I mean, they can't just make up whatever they want.
kurt nimmo ▲ ● ▼		No, they can't.
		But, you know, what they're trying to do in, you know, what's her name, Carolyn McCarthy, the notorious gun grabber, she introduced the Gun Show Loophole Closing Act of 2009.
		Let me see, it's H.R. 2324.
		And what they're trying to do is close down the gun shows through this new law.
		And they're actually trying to tie this to terrorism.
		If you read the bill, they make these comparisons to illegal gun sales being terrorism.
		It's insane.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I just hope.
kurt nimmo ▲ ● ▼		Actually, Frank Wattenberg also introduced a bill.
		The Democrats introduced some other bills, too.
		This is called Gun Show Background Check Act of 2009.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that's another issue.
		Obama keeps saying, I don't want your guns, even though he writes all these letters, introduced laws as a state senator, even though all his czars are calling for complete banning, even though they're harassing everybody.
		They're coming after our guns while denying they're doing it.
unidentified		That's right.
kurt nimmo ▲ ● ▼		Well, the Democrats are really behind these laws.
		I mean, the Loophole Closing Act has 35 co-sponsors, mostly Democrats.
		And the Lautenberg Senate bill has 15 co-sponsors, all of them Democrats.
		So this is basically coming out of the Obama administration, as you pointed out.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But again, he uses that military tactic of going with the bills, going with the regulations, going with the color of law, going with the tyranny, whilst getting on the news going, these crazy conspiracy theorists, they think that we want their guns!
kurt nimmo ▲ ● ▼		Well, it doesn't help that there's like 17 states that are, you know, regulating gun shows as well.
		California, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Oregon, New York, Illinois, and Colorado.
		And four states, Hawaii, Maryland, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania require background checks at gun shows on handguns.
		So, states are working with the feds as well to implement this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, we know they're coming after our guns, but the issue is, this is a new development to just have the feds show up and say, we don't need laws anymore.
		You're done.
		And then arrest someone.
kurt nimmo ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's insane.
		I mean, it's insane that the federal government has no jurisdiction over interest bail of firearms at all.
		None.
		Under the Commerce Clause.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We need another headline like, Gun sales banned in Austin without law.
		Illegal.
		And then point out the Commerce Clause because you've done some great research, Kurt Nemo.
		I know that'll be up later this evening at InfoWars.com.
		Your current article is up there.
		Great job.
		Thank you so much, Kurt, for the wonderful work you do at InfoWars.com.
unidentified		Take care.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Great job.
		Kurt Nemo, you heard him.
		What a researcher.
		You hear all those facts?
		All the laws they're violating?
unidentified		We're on the march, the empire's on the run.
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	Showing you the shadow national security state that's been set up, who have openly stated in the secret homeland security documents that we got released last year, stating that all gun owners, conservatives, libertarians, returning veterans, are the number one threat to the government.
	The government is illegitimate.
	It's criminal.
	It is illegal to have the BATFE go find a client-willing pet city like Austin and go to Police Chief Arte Cerveda and say, no law.
	We're just going to go into the town.
	The city.
	And we're going to show up at a gun show and say you can't have private sale of firearms.
	And they're trying to shut it down at flea markets, garage sales, selling to your neighbor.
	They've tried to pass laws in Texas and every other state.
	Several have passed laws at several state levels where you can't even buy your grandson a handgun, a rifle, a shotgun.
	You can't buy your wife a gun and give it to her for Christmas.
	You've got to be registered.
	And that's what this has always been about.
	Here is the actual notice that was being handed out to people in Austin at the Texas Gun Show.
	That's the name of the vendors.
	And it's a family-owned business.
	Darwin Bedecker is the operator of it.
	And, reading the notice, it says, public notice, selling of firearms at the direction of the Austin Police Department and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, at the direction.
	No law, not even a city ordinance, and that would have been overturned by the state.
	The city laws have to be in line with the state law.
	At the direction of the Austin Police Department, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, anyone selling a firearm at this show location will be asked, so it's color of law, they're asking, to comply with the following.
	Any person selling a personal firearm must, that's the felony, that's the color of law, the torturous interference, the racketeering, the civil rights violation, masquerading under uniform and with guns, under false authority, attacking commerce and civil rights.
	Any person selling a personal firearm must, you're being commanded now by uniform, Claiming the power of the state, illegitimately, must go through a licensed FFL dealer in the show to transfer the firearm to the new owner.
	Two, selling of firearms in the parking lot will not be permitted.
	Thank you for your cooperation.
	So see, it's meant to be written legally.
	Where they think they can get out of it by saying, we're asking you that you must.
	This is serious fraud.
	And as far as I know, watching this closely, this is the first time in the country this has been done in my town of Austin, Texas, talking to Mr. Bedecker.
	the operator of the Texas Gun Show.
	He said that this is the first time in Texas they were told Thursday of this.
	And here joining us for the next 25 minutes is Darwin Bedeker.
	And again, they're totally against this.
	They're getting a petition signed to go to the attorney general.
	This is totally illegal.
	The state better stop it.
	He's getting a lot of hate mail right now.
	He's not behind it.
	He's got these armed thugs doing this.
	This is tyranny.
	This is the end of America.
	This is directive of President Obama and the BATFE.
	Mr. Bedecker, thank you for joining us.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, you heard the things I just broke down.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I want to go over that later with you, but now, blow by blow, tell us what really happened, what they told you, what unfolded.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Okay, the exact story is Thursday at 2 o'clock we had a meeting in Austin, Texas with the Austin Police Department, the ATF, and the people from the North Market Event Center, and HEB.
		Now the reason HEB is important is they're actually the main leaseholder under Walmart.
		Walmart owns that building that everybody knows as the Crockett Center.
		We're now the North Austin Event Center.
		So what happened was they made these recommendations to me and basically because the gun show that used to be there before us was a lot larger, a lot bigger, they said that the APD and ATF had pending cases Uh, of people selling firearms in the gun shows without a license, actually setting up.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I knew that was going to happen.
		That's the extortion.
		Basically, we're going to end up setting you up.
		We're going to shut your show down if you don't let us, through color of law, intimidate people and go ahead and basically kill your show to begin with, running their fake stings in there with the illegal aliens they use.
		Go ahead.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		And basically what happened in this meeting when we first sat down, The detectives that are in this meeting did not even realize that we were a different gun show promoter.
		They thought that there was no difference and only after...
		Uh, only after we told them that we're not even the same gun show that you had these, these cases against, did she realize that... This is... I'm gonna stop you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm gonna stop you.
		This is too huge.
		This is so illegal.
		They are so ham-fisted, they think they're doing an internal sting plea bargain, uh, with you to get you to waive your rights.
		Hey, we've got these cases against you, buddy boy.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		See, they've already run the other show out of business or out of Austin.
		Now they've got you and they're like, listen, Mac, you're going to do this with us.
		You're going to help us run Stings.
		We're going to mount cameras in the ceiling.
		I don't know if this happened, but this happened in other areas.
		Or once you were pimped by them, then they would bring that up later.
		We're shutting down guns in America.
		We may let you sell for a while, but the Second Amendment's over.
		You know, that's basically the message.
		So this gets a lot deeper and a lot... I'm sorry, I just love the Second Amendment.
		I love commerce.
		I love freedom.
		I'm going to shut up.
		I'm going to shut up.
		Start over.
		Okay.
		You get called.
		Let me guess.
		Oh, you meet with us.
		Exactly.
		And so you show up.
		Where were you?
		Go over it all.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Well, I showed up to the building that they specified it was.
		I don't remember the exact address of it, but it was one of their facilities that also PD uses for, I guess, interviews and stuff like that.
		And, well, they invited HEB to the meeting, and basically what it was was they scared HEB into basically telling me I had to follow these recommendations or I wouldn't have a show.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And what, I'm going to stop, that's racketeering right there, organized crime, organized fraud, extortion.
		They get the leaseholder, you've already contracted, they twist arms right there to violate the Second Amendment and commerce and free market, they get H-E-B under threat, you under criminal threat, all these threats to agree to this, and you have the courage to come out and expose them.
		Who was there?
		What was there?
		Oh my God, this is so criminal.
		Please continue.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		So, basically, we had about a two-hour meeting, back and forth, back and forth, and I asked them specifically, why is this happening in Austin and nowhere else?
		And they just backpedaled and said, well, because we're here.
		Meaning that the two detectives and the other ATF agent.
		And I asked them then, I was like, well, you realize I'm basically the smallest promoter on the totem pole.
		I don't find it coincidence that, you know, you found a promoter that you could actually, you know, pressure into doing this.
		Because, I mean, they told me Thursday I only had two choices.
		You know, it was either cancel the show on Friday when vendors have already driven, you know, long distances to set up.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Or try to comply with their recommendations.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So that was a threat of ruins.
		That was a threat of embargo.
		Sir, you've got a civil rights lawsuit on the APD and the BATFE.
		If you stand up to them, they're over.
		And then when they try to racketeer and set up your gun shows more, you've really got them.
		My God, these people are criminal!
		So they told you, you do what we say, color of law, or we're shutting you down.
		That is ten times worse than just, oh my god.
		Do you realize what they've done, sir?
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, I realize it.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		It's just that, you know, I didn't, they told me Thursday that, you know, this had to be done and by Friday, you know, vendors are starting to show up and I'm trying to explain to them, you know, what happened.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, they always do it in the quiet.
		They always do it behind closed doors and then ask you to go out and take the heat.
		Sir, what were these guys' names?
		What did they say to you?
		How did they treat you?
		What went on?
		Give us all the details of this criminal operation.
		This is a mafia?
		This is how the mafia operated in New York and Chicago?
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Well, from the Austin Police Department, it was a Sergeant Fleming that was in the meeting, a Detective Long, a Detective Russell, and a Detective Vineyard, and from the ATF, it was a Daniel Jones.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Those were the law people that were inside the meeting.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And they took you in there and squeezed you to basically become their operative when you're a law-abiding citizen?
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well basically, you know, they sat there and they read all this long sheet of 9-1-1 calls, pending cases, all this stuff that they had dug up over the four, you know, however many years that they were doing it against the other gun shows.
		Fourteen!
		And then when I told them, well how, oh actually the gentleman from the North Austin events... I'm going to stop you again.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They always use emotion.
		Oh look, over the years there's been, you know, 15 problems in the 14 years.
		They were there when I went on air 14 years ago, so more than 14 years.
		And so see, that's the new law they use.
		Like in France They had 152 husbands and wives kill each other, so now they're banning arguing and may even ban marriage.
		Oh, some parents abuse their kids.
		Now everyone gets a camera in their home in England when you have kids.
		See, oh, there might be somebody that gets a gun and commits a crime, so you have to do this now outside of law.
		I mean, this is... I'm sorry.
		Please continue.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Well, the worst part of it all was people coming in through the door that I handed these flyers to and that they willingly signed a petition for.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		The people that didn't take the time to actually hear what was going on because they were so frustrated basically called me every name in the book.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I had one older gentleman Oh sir, that's your, hold on, that's one of your major.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You watch, your next show, compared to previous shows, will be down by 50% unless we get the word out.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be down more than that.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be down more than that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sir, they've destroyed you.
		They have engaged in an act of COINTELPRO, write that word down, it's illegal, they got caught in the 70s doing it, to destroy you.
		They infiltrated, they knew that this would destroy your operation, and they have, this is, this is assault, this is a robbery, this is grand larceny, sir.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		I feel the same way, and the sad thing was that they sat there and told me, well, if you do this, you'll get more licensed, you know, FFL, Federal Firearms Licensed dealers in there.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Well, actually, I had two of my largest FFL dealers actually cancel the day before the show when I told them about it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They don't want to be in a major sting-off.
		Did they tell you Or if you would have gone along with them, I wish I had known about this and I told you to go along with it enough to really get into their criminal operation.
		Because we're infiltrating these criminals right now as the organic citizenry.
		I mean, they are the mafia.
		We're the equivalent of the real citizen's FBI here.
		I guarantee you they would have asked you to set people up next.
		Or did they ask that?
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		No, they did not ask that.
unidentified		No.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Alright, continue.
		Give me every detail of their operation.
		Give me every... So you're in this building, continue.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm in this building.
		I mean, it's basically a two-hour meeting of them trying to, you know, tell all the woes of the show that was there before.
		And the whole time, the guy from HEB is hearing all this.
		And, you know, this gentleman doesn't probably, he's probably never even been to a gun show.
		He doesn't, you know, he doesn't care about a gun show.
		So he basically turns to me and says, well, you need to follow these recommendations or there's no show.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, the gentleman's name is Brett Baker.
		They threaten to financially ruin you if you don't follow their recommendation, which is color of law, racketeering fraud.
		Man, these guys are in trouble.
		Now, who said that to you specifically?
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Well, the gentleman's name is Brett Baker.
		He's the guy from HEB.
		And he was the one that...
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So, I'm saying what the police did to him was illegal, threatening him and his business and your business if he didn't do that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What I'm saying is the police, so they used them to do this?
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because I know where my morality meter stands and if they would have looked me straight in the face and said, you need to follow these recommendations, they know what I would have told them.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		But basically by them inviting HDB to the meeting, They knew that they could intimidate him, and by him telling me I had to follow his recommendations, or they were going to close the door, then, I mean, I would have had to cancel the show because... Now, did any of the police, or did the federal regulator, the federal thug, did they, did they ever say, you've got to do this?
unidentified		No.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Which even shows more evidence.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		No, because they did.
		They made it a point to keep on repeating themselves, these are just recommendations, these are just recommendations.
		That's only more proof of the fraud.
		We have the notice they wrote up.
		We have them saying you must.
		They produced this, correct?
		They told you to produce it though?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's only more proof of the fraud.
		We have the notice they wrote up.
		We have them saying you must.
		They produced this, correct?
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		No, no, we produced that notice that we handed out.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They told you to produce it, though?
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Yes, they said that that would be a good way to let the public know what was going on.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Did they give you an email, or did they verbally tell you how to write it?
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		No, they just verbally told me.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they don't want a paper trail, because, boy, let me tell you, this is elitist.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Look, they're in the jury in the land, won't burn these guys, because they're, you know, just like when the mafia gets caught with different layers to protect themselves, that only burns them worse.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		No, I understand.
		And like I said, I received, you know, I had a gentleman that was 75 years old come up to me in the show Saturday morning and says, I hear you're the promoter of this show.
		And I said, yes, sir.
		And he goes, well, I just want to let you know that if I would have had a son that was like you, I would have shot him when he was born.
		I mean, I'm so pro-gun and pro-right that it's not even funny to have a gentleman three times my age tell me that.
		that, you know, that, I mean, I didn't know what else to tell him.
		Besides, I'm sorry.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, again, again, we're a racketeer. - It's been operated.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		My mom actually welcomes people at the door.
		My brothers work security.
		We're the lowest on gun show promoters.
		We're the bottom totem pole.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, honestly, let me stop you right there.
		Let me stop you.
		Were there police officers or BATFE goons loitering around to make sure that people were told about this and going around checking?
		Because you said they did bust somebody in there for the non-crime of selling a gun to somebody without a license.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You have them?
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		They were there Saturday, the ATF and the detectives that were in the meeting.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		They were all there Saturday.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Man, this is evil.
		So, I also heard that they set somebody up in a private sail with an illegal.
		Is that accurate?
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know.
		I don't know the great details of it.
		I don't want to say anything that's not true, but I did witness them escorting One of my vendors out that had sold a gun to somebody and then he was outside for, I don't know, probably an hour and a half and then they released him.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So they did it for show.
		More color of law.
		Just like the feds pay for billboards that say reporting illegal guns with a picture of a revolver.
		There is no law against the revolver, creating the perception that we are a criminal group of gun owners.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
unidentified		But yeah, they definitely did it in front of everybody so everybody Sickening filth.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sir, I've got to hold you over.
		I need to fully debrief you with all this information.
		We need to get the Texas...
		Rifle Association behind you.
		We need lawsuits filed.
		We need to go after the APD.
		Who really seemed to be the boss?
		The BATFE or the local Austin people?
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Actually, no.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		The ATF agent, Daniel, basically, he was the one that proposed the recommendations that we followed, but as far as the rest of the meeting, he didn't say a lot.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but he proposed the regulations.
		He was the boss.
		This is directly from Obama.
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		We've got Darwin Betteker from the Texas Gun Show on showroom.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Shows up in Austin.
		Gets told he needs to show up at a meeting.
		They've got the HEB owners of the former Crockett Center, but you can't name something after Davy Crockett.
		That's evil.
		So they've named it something else.
		And they tell them, you're not going to have your gun show unless you do this.
		And the BATFV says, here's what we think you should write up and say to people.
		Then they're there.
		They do a show arrest, release the person.
		I mean, this is all fraud.
		This is classical tyranny.
		This is how it worked in Russia and Nazi Germany and Soviet China.
		This is what they're doing.
		When you put your kids in public school, they're learning to hate the Second Amendment.
		Sir, you fought back against this, so did the police or anybody, or it sounded like they knew what they were doing was really illegal, so they were being careful, but not careful enough, because of what we have here, and the fake arrest.
		Did they start getting upset by your petition to the Attorney General?
		Because you're right.
		Who advised you to go to the state?
		Because the state writes the laws, they can't just make up laws on their own.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, they didn't.
		I don't know if they even saw the petition because they didn't even come in the front door.
		They came in actually a side door of the show.
		And the petition was right there at the front door where people enter.
		The other thing that I was going to mention is what they did and what they basically made me follow.
		You know, our shows are small anyways in comparison to gun shows.
		They're really small.
		You know, we're the only show that allows you to come back Sunday with your Saturday's emissions.
		So we try to do things differently to help people, you know, out.
		And I basically had to go $2 down on emissions to even get people to come in once they saw, you know, 65 of my tables were missing because of cancellations.
		So, I mean, I didn't know what else to do.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's where you can really get them, is the fact that they shut down your business and financially hurt you, and then emotionally hurt you, having people come up and call you a traitor.
		And then they didn't trust you to probably sign your petition, probably thinking the government wanted their names, because they've tried to get gun shows to get Social Security numbers in other areas of the country.
		Other points about what happened.
		Were the police pleased with how they ruined your freedom and illegally intimidated your show into the ground?
		Did you ever talk to him?
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		I walked back to the concession stand, which is at the back of the show.
		Anybody that's been in that building know that it's in the back of the show.
		And the two detectives that were actually in the meeting were sitting down in civilian clothes at one of the tables, I guess, just watching and surveying everything.
		And I walked back to them, and where there used to be tables in the second half of the building, where you walk directly to the concession stand, there were no more tables.
		So you actually had to walk past a bare place, a building that was probably 50 feet wide where there were no tables anymore because of the cancellations.
		And I walked back to him and I said, take a look around.
		I go, I hope this is what y'all were looking for.
		And she kind of made a half grin and was like, well, you know, we don't want to shut you down, but we just want everybody that, you know, everybody that can't buy guns, you know, has to go through a background check.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So she admitted the crime.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, she admitted there's no law to get the background check, but that's what they wanted.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		That's what they wanted, yes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What is her name?
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Detective Long.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		I don't have her first name.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		She needs to be indicted for racketeering.
		I'm telling you.
		Sir, are you going to sue these people?
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		I'll do whatever I can in my power.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Just my financial resources are so minuscule.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's clear.
		I'm going to get you back on for the next show.
		I'm going to be down there this time.
		And we're going to get hundreds and hundreds, if not thousands, of people to come support you and stand beside you.
		But that's how tyranny works.
		They grab you, then you get blamed for it as the victim.
		We need to come support you and support your show and not let them kill the Austin Gun Show.
		They already shut down the other one that used to be in a city building.
		The city said, we're not going to allow it.
		Now you go out and get a private building.
		No, you can't have that either.
		Or we can find somebody else with a big warehouse or building and have it there, and they'll try to set us up there.
		You're gonna have to print out pamphlets to warn everybody, but we can't let them run everybody off.
		Stay there.
		Back in one minute.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, the phones are wide open for police officers or for lawyers or for witnesses of the crime against freedom, the right to contract, the right to have sales, the right to business, the right of the Second Amendment.
		You have the Austin Police under the command of the BATFE, federally, colluding This man contracted with the event center.
		They contract with H-E-B, who contracts with Walmart, that owns this old Walmart building.
		They've had a gun show there for more than 14 years.
		I mean, I've been going there since college, actually.
		So, 15, 16, 17, 18 years?
		I don't know.
		I don't know how long.
		I know it's been there since I've been on air 14 years.
		And, uh, they've been sponsors of this show when it was the Saks at Gun and Knife Show.
		They now went and did some raids and some setups and some... We knew they were in there.
		They're doing it to all gun shows.
		Ran them off.
		Another event group comes in.
		The police think it's the same group.
		They say, look, we got you on all this.
		You know, we might talk about dropping some of this if you do this.
		Go over what they said in the meeting.
		And you said they were mainly focused on the H-E-B leaseholder, intimidating him to stop you and to shut down your business.
		And then the cops are laughing and think it's funny when they're outside the law.
		There's no law you have to do this and the police are now secret commissars, secret police, running around and then forcing you to put up notices saying you must do this when there's no law.
		I mean, this is the very definition of extortion, of racketeering.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		1-800- 1-800-259-9231 for lawyers, constitutional scholars, police officers, anyone who is upset about this.
		You know, I'm sitting here ranting and raving, talking to Darwin here on the line, whose family owns and runs this gun show, the Texas Gun Show.
		And, you know, thank God you can operate in other cities.
		I mean, they're trying to put you out of business.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		The only other show that I have is the one in Live Oak.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Like I said before, when it comes to gun shows, I'm the bottom of the total bowl because we are just all family that runs this show.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So they ran the old gun show that had been here for more than a decade out, and now they're trying to run you out.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Well yeah, and by doing what they did this past weekend, I can't survive.
		Under that, because I mean, I'll just cancel the shows.
		I'm not gonna keep on trying to put on gun shows.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		Don't do that.
		Don't do that, sir.
		I have a huge audience, especially in Austin.
		I'm gonna have people there.
		And I'm gonna be there.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		We're supposed to be there the third weekend of each month because we filled in the spot that the other gun show left when they left the building.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So you're gonna be there in a month?
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the third weekend of each month until otherwise.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You're going to be there in like 28 days.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Well, sir... The third weekend of February.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Listen, you can look... You've never heard of this radio show, have you?
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		No, sir.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		I don't get off the station.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, that's fine.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		But I did hear your name thrown out a lot when people told me that I needed to contact you.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		And so I knew after hundreds of people told me when they came in the door.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, all I'm telling you is this is a... Tell that story in a moment.
		This is a precedent-setting case.
		I'm standing with you.
		But you've got to stand with me and not let them intimidate you to shut down.
		At least until we get to fight them, file injunctions, sue them, go after them.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		I'll stand as strong as I can be.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm going to be there with you in three and a half weeks.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Sounds good.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And we need all of Texas and the other stinking gun shows to stand with you and the other gun dealers to stand with you.
		Because if they can get you... Sir, do you understand this is precedent setting?
		But I'll guarantee you this is going on covertly all over the country?
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, no, I know.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Like I said, I've seen it coming and then I've had that gut feeling that it was coming and basically they proved my point with this meeting and this past weekend that my personal feeling is that they're just trying to get a foothold And if they can get one show to do it, then they probably feel they can get all shows to do this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm going up against him, and boy, let me tell you, the BATF has even said threatening things to me at this very gun show you're talking about.
		They are an absolutely wicked bunch of un-American trash.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I want you to picture in your mind America, with secret police under federal control, getting the leaseholder together, calling the gun show operator in, and saying, hey, we got some cases against your gun show, we've set you up.
		Hey, I'm not the same guy, you ran him out of Austin.
		Oh, well, it doesn't matter.
		You know, we're going to shut you down.
		And then having the leaseholder, I guess, say, you've got to do this.
		And what we need to do is have the gun show, not follow their illegal unlawful order, have notices you give them when they're there.
		They don't have any warrant.
		I say kick them out.
		See, first they intimidate you to let them in.
		Make them get warrants to come in.
		We need to stand up as a country to these people.
		And then, if they terminate your lease, Terminate your agreement.
		You've got all sorts of other lawsuits against the officers, all of them, for racketeering, official oppression, torturous interference, interstate commerce, because the feds are involved.
		I mean, they are committing so many crimes on the face of it.
		And we've got...
		A bunch of police officers calling in, Keith in Indiana, and a bunch of others we're going to go to here in a moment for our guest, but we need to rally behind the Texas Gun Show.
		They picked a little target, they picked a Soviet town like Austin.
		Good people in Austin, but run by a bunch of really bad people.
		They're always stealing private property, you name it.
		Because if they're able to do this under the dark of night, it's going to be a precedent.
		I guarantee it.
		The White House is running this.
		I've seen similar things going on.
		They're doing this all over the country.
		We've got to set a precedent nationwide so people know how to stand up against them.
		We've been fighting them for 20 years trying to shut down the gun shows.
		And once they've shut that down, I've read the state laws they try to pass and the ones they have, where you can't even sell your neighbor a gun, can't sell some guns you want to make some money at a garage sale.
		This is outrageous.
		This is the last step towards total registration and confiscation.
		Now, going back to Darwin Bedecker, whose family runs this.
		He's the operator.
		The Texas Gun Show.
		Let's put their website up on screen for folks so they can find out where their shows are and support them.
		Give us the URL to your website.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		It's texasgunshows.net.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		TexasGunShows.net and people need to show up to this.
		Mark their calendars and be there and support what you're doing and you need to not be intimidated by them.
		I can be there with cameras and cram them right in their faces.
		I'm coming down there and you look into who I am sir.
		I mean I don't claim to be the You know, a tough guy or anything, but I'm not a wimp, and I'm a constitutionalist, and I'm committed to this republic and defeating these people, and I'm standing beside you.
		I'm going to get Congressman Ron Paul on this, Gun Owners of America Larry Pratt, Jews and Preservation of Firearms Ownership, the Texas Rifle Association, we're calling them all right now, sir.
		We're going to rally the troops to defeat these people politically.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's music to my ears compared to what I've been hearing over the last 48 hours.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now, I want to go to calls with you, but I want to go back here to be very careful about this meeting.
		Specifically, they tell you, we'd like you to come down and tell us the whole story, how they did the intimidation, how the BATF told you how to write this, how it destroyed your show.
		Lay it out.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		I was invited to a facility at Austin PD.
		I guess to do interviews and stuff like that.
		I had a meeting with Austin PD, the ATF was there, and people from North Austin Event Center and HEP.
		And it was about a two hour long meeting that took place on Thursday, the day before my vendors were supposed to set up.
		And basically it was a long meeting over.
		They started off the meeting with, you know, we don't want to have to shut you down, but we will.
		It was straight intimidation from the get-go, and they made a long list of convictions or cases that they had against the former gun show, and they read off all these complaints and everything else, 911 calls, everything to this location, and they didn't even know in the beginning of the meeting that we were a different show promoter.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that was over a decade of the other show, one of the best records.
		People driving by on the highway were always calling cops, seeing people with guns, because the public's been trained guns are illegal.
		Nobody can put them in their pickup window.
		People can't walk out of their house and get in their car with them, because there's a large portion of the population that is completely ignorant.
		So they use that.
		The ninnying, scared public, we gotta shut you down.
		Go ahead.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		And then, in the process of the meeting, the ATF agent Suggested recommendations that we should follow.
		And he said that he's seen it work in other places like Detroit.
		And that right there made me laugh.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So they've done this before?
		Okay, Detroit.
		I mean a totally federal run cesspit.
		Okay, continuing.
		And basically... So to be clear, the BATF then was setting the parameters.
		Go ahead.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		After that, they you know, said what they could do.
		They didn't want to have to do, but they said they could, you know, make it to where the building couldn't be used for anything because of the activities that happened in the past.
		And that scared the guy from HEB.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, so again, that's a key threat.
		Outside of a court, outside of law, threatening to shut the building down for everything else, the knitting clubs, the swap meets they have there.
		Threatening to just end the building, period.
		So that guy's got a cause of action.
		Threatening his entire business and his job as the leaseholder, H-E-B, the grocery store chain with Walmart, if he didn't then come down on you.
		And what was his name, the poor guy being grilled by these people?
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		His name's Andrew Burkell.
		He's the operating, I guess, operating manager of the North Austin Event Center.
		And he was the one that was basically, he was a former Austin police officer, too, and he was the one standing up for us.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, also, he was arguing with them.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		How did that go?
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, every time they tried to scare him, he basically told them, you know, don't try to intimidate me.
		You know, I know the law.
		I know what's going on here.
		But yet, you know, it still intimidated H-E-B.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Get Raquel on.
		So H-E-B was there above him?
		Yes.
		And so H-E-B then turned to you and said, this is the way it is?
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they said, you need to follow these recommendations.
unidentified		Or, basically, there'll be no show.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And the police and the BATF then smiled with pleasure?
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		And, like I said, they taped this whole meeting.
		I don't know if that's something that they'll give you, but it was all taped.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you need their open records to demand it.
		They'll claim it malfunctioned and lie.
		But, my God, was the event center head, the former police officer, freaked out when you left?
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		No, he wasn't freaked out.
		He was just like, he just told me, you know, I know that didn't go the way you wanted it to.
		You know, when I, when they called this meeting, I had, I said I would go, but they didn't tell me what we were going to talk about.
		I didn't know what was about to happen.
		So basically after they locked the doors and started the meeting, that's when they told me that, you know, they got to the point where if I didn't follow these recommendations, I wasn't going to have a show.
		So after I already committed all my resources that I could towards advertising and everything else, I mean it was either lose all that money and cancel it or try to recoup something and let the public know what was going on so I chose to let the public know.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well you did the right thing and we're going to stand beside you in this.
		Now how did the BATFE guy tell you to write this?
		When did he do that?
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		He didn't tell me to write it word for word.
		What he said was you might have Oh, it's even worse!
		up there to notify the public what's going on.
		Because I told him, the reason I said that is because I told him, well, what's going to happen is everybody that comes in the show is going to think it's me.
		You know, it's going to think it's a Texas gun show thing and think that I'm, you know, flying in the face of freedom when it's not me at all.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's even worse.
		They wanted to keep this secret.
		Yeah.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		So basically then he said, well, you could write something saying that, or I told him, well, then what I'm going to do is I'm going to write something saying, you know, in accordance and in direction with Austin PD and ATF.
		This is, this is why, you know, this is happening this weekend.
		So that's the flyer that you're reading.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And he said, oh, that's good.
unidentified		Yeah, basically he said, yeah, that, that will work.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Because I asked him, I go, if I follow these recommendations, I go, are you going to pay for a full page newspaper ad?
		You know, saying that it wasn't my idea.
		I didn't do it willingly.
		It was under the threat of pressure of me, you know, losing everything that I invested and losing my business there, that I complied with your recommendations for that weekend.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is an agency and police completely out of control.
		Let's talk to Kenneth in Indiana, a police officer.
		Kenneth or Keith, your take on this.
unidentified		Yeah, I just want to thank you for, you know, acting on being obedient to your convictions and getting this information out and more power to your guests there as far as getting this lawsuit going.
		Hopefully we can sue the pants off of them and get that done.
		I just wanted to add, just encourage, you know, listeners and, you know, it doesn't matter if you own firearms, if you're interested, if you're not interested, if the last thing that you wanted to see But everyone needs to be involved with what's going on and stand up and fight because you may, next month, want to buy a firearm to protect you and your family.
		And, you know, being a police officer, knowing what's going on, I lived in a county that they had two deputies on graveyard shift and they had a major State route going through.
		If you have a serious accident, they're going to be tied up.
		And if you have a burglary, a burglar breaking into your home at that time, just think about what the response time is.
		Are you going to be able to protect you, your family, your property, your belongings?
		No.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, sir, what do you think of them secretly just intimidating somebody to do this with no law behind them?
unidentified		Well, it's wrong.
		I mean, it's totally illegal.
		But we see this going on in every facet of our country.
		We have a Congress.
		We have members of Congress.
		We have our executive.
		We have our judiciary.
		We have judges.
		Making law as they make decisions.
		It's going along everywhere.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Stay there, Keith.
		Stay there, Keith.
		Stay there.
		And we're going to come back with our guest because I want him to hear what you have to say.
		And then Rick, Mike, Heather, John, and others with the different laws this is violating.
		I'm going to get Larry Becraft, constitutional lawyer, on this.
		I mean, folks, this is outrageous.
		But what do we expect from the Austin police?
		I mean, they take blood without warrants at checkpoints.
		I mean, they're just nuts!
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Darwin Bettecker.
		His family runs a little gun show in Texas.
		Two shows a month.
		They buy radio time.
		They advertise it.
		The government comes and basically shuts the show down.
		No law, no nothing.
		It's like they take your property now without just compensation.
		The Republic is dying.
		You think I like going up against the BATFE?
		You think I like going up against these people?
		I know who they are.
		They've gotten in my face when I've been at the gun show before.
		Until I get back in theirs and then they scatter.
		They're used to people wetting their pants, bowing down to them.
		Not me!
		I'm a good person.
		I don't do anything wrong.
		I fight tyranny.
		And we know this is tyranny.
		Going back to Kenneth and then Rick and everybody else.
		Kenneth, um...
		I mean, the more I hear of this story, the more wicked, the more sickening it gets.
		And to hear about the police when he walked up and said, look at my building, half empty.
		Is this what you wanted?
		And they smiled and said, no, we don't want to shut you down.
		We just want you to have registered gun sales.
		They want him to do something that isn't the law, and they're going to ruin him to do it.
		I mean, that is assault.
		That is financial assault.
		Keith, I keep calling you Kenneth.
unidentified		It's totally criminal.
		And you know what they want?
		We all know what they want in the end.
		They're going to have a list and they're going to come and take them when they grant the time that, you know, they want to do that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And they'll start with 50 cows first to make it sound reasonable.
unidentified		It's just like you've said before, the frog in the pot that they just slowly start heating up.
		And we don't notice that it's getting hot, but, you know, it's starting to boil and we need to do something.
		Just going back to what I was saying again, yes, the Second Amendment, the right to bear arms, I mean, it is for personal protection of ourselves, our family, but again, tyranny.
		It is that last line of defense to protect ourselves, to protect our freedoms, to protect our country, to protect our Constitution.
		Just to follow up on the story I was saying before, protecting yourself I'm a law enforcement officer and I love the guys and gals I work with.
		The profession is great, but we're there to supplement the citizens.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And you're there to respond, you're there to enforce the law after a crime has been committed under federal and state statute.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You have no liability to protect us because you can't.
unidentified		Exactly.
		If something goes down, we need a handgun, we need a weapon to protect ourselves.
		At that moment, when our life is threatened, we may be killed within seconds.
		People think that calling 9-1-1 is a magic genie lamp, and the police officer or sheriff's deputy is going to appear there in seconds.
		It doesn't happen.
		Again, the officer may be across the county, they might be Slowed down with bad weather.
		You know, police officers have to deal with vehicle problems and the weather and snow and rain, fog.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Your phone may be out.
		How many phone calls have we heard where the dispatch system's having problems or the dispatcher doesn't take them seriously and they get killed?
		The average time's what, 12 minutes for a 911 call?
unidentified		Exactly.
		So, you know, We can't.
		Is the government going to hire a bodyguard for every citizen in the country to protect ourselves at the moment that we need it?
		That's not going to happen.
		You know, we had founding fathers that guaranteed the God-given right.
		Our right to protect ourselves is God-given.
		But it's backed up by the Constitution to be guaranteed by the Founding Fathers and the Constitution that they gave us.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And Barack Obama and his crew of scum have no authorization to take our guns.
		Going back to Darwin Bedeker.
		Darwin, again, what do you think of my idea of Absolutely.
		not following this color of law intimidation, and then if they do take your show away from you, you've got lawsuits that are incredible.
		I mean, because it's going to kill your show anyways going along with this.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		And like I said, I'll stand with you through it all and try to, you know, hopefully they'll get back to where, you know, shows used to be where you actually enjoyed going to them, taking the family, enjoying the collection side of it, trying to find that one piece that you've been missing trying to find that one piece that you've been missing from your collection.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Listen, I don't go to a lot of them anymore because I know it's crawling with feds and special local police.
		I like going to buy blow dart guns.
		I like buying those little bird bomb things.
		Those are fun to shoot out in the country.
		You know, the things that run off birds, but not for birds, just to shoot them or to shoot them in the lake and watch them, you know, make a red flash at night.
		I mean, it's fun to go to the gun show and, you know, buy camping gear or ammo.
		But I mean, now it's just feds everywhere.
		I mean, it's sick!
		Our tax money are paying for this.
		Anything else, Keith?
unidentified		Yeah, and two more real quick things.
		The Senate Subcommittee of the Constitution in 1982 had an awesome report on the right to keep and bear arms.
		I mean, this is great.
		It's not too long and it just touches on... I've read it before.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Give people the title of it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We'll post it on InfoWars.com.
unidentified		It is awesome.
unidentified		It is awesome.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And... Give them the report name.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I forget the Senate report.
unidentified		Yeah, it is a report of the Subcommittee on the Constitution.
		It's quite long.
		Of Committee on the Judiciary.
		It's a February of 1982 report.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we'll get that Senate report on the Second Amendment up.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		We're on the march.
		The Empire's on the run.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is our last chance to not relive history.
alan watt ▲ ● ▼		As they're finishing off this agenda, they'll be pulling the rug from underneath the Americans at home.
john perkins ▲ ● ▼		Tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.
jesse ventura ▲ ● ▼		I think it's incumbent upon all of us Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists!
jesse ventura ▲ ● ▼		They're asking for more matches!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The Republic identifies the enemies of our nation.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.
unidentified		Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists.
		They're asking for more matches.
		And the Congress is saying, who do we make the checkout to?
g edward griffin ▲ ● ▼		Today seems like nobody does care.
		This is our last chance to not relive history.
		a fall of the republic.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Get your copy of Fall of the Republic on DVD at Infowars.com or watch it online right now in super high quality at PrisonPlanet.tv Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is our last chance to not relive history.
john perkins ▲ ● ▼		As we're finishing off this agenda, we're pulling the rug from underneath We have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.
jesse ventura ▲ ● ▼		I think it's incumbent upon all of us as American citizens to pay attention.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		For the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation, the criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.
unidentified		Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists!
		They're asking for more matches!
		And the Congress is saying, who do we make the check out to?
g edward griffin ▲ ● ▼		Today seems like nobody does care.
g edward griffin ▲ ● ▼		And right now in Washington, D.C., we have seen a fall of the Republic.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Get your copy of Fall of the Republic on DVD at InfoWars.com or watch it online right now in super high quality at PrisonPlanet.tv.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're doing some research on this Andrew Perkel in the Austin Chronicle.
		We're wanting to make sure it's the same Andrew Purkell that is the head of the events center.
		We're just going to leave it at that for right now.
		You might want to look into the name Andrew Perkel.
		P-E-R-K-E-L.
		We're going to see if that's the same person.
		We need to call him and see if that's the same 14-year veteran who got indicted in 2006.
		Now he's playing good cop, bad cop with people.
		So we're going to find out what's going on here.
		Because we're on the case now.
		We're on the case.
		Okay, going back to Darwin Bedecker, who runs the Texas Gun Show, texasgunshow.net.
		You said you're getting calls during the breaks from vendors and people that are saying they're going to come out and support you.
		Finish up that story, and then I interrupted you earlier when you tried to bring up people bringing up my name at the front gate when they were coming in, seeing the notice.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
		Actually, while we were on this interview, our business phone rang, and my mother is actually the person that takes reservations.
		She said that a vendor called and requested three tables at our next Austin show, and he's never done one of our shows.
		But what made me feel good was he said that he wished his son would have turned out like me, which actually made me feel good for all those people that have been sending all the hate email thinking it was, you know, thinking it was My doing, that it actually feels good to actually get the story out.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, we've shot down politically a bunch of the czars that Obama tried to appoint.
		Others he appointed are even worse, openly saying ban free speech, second amendment.
		If we use the gun shows as political centers of the Declaration of Independence and Liberty, and got people organized to defend local gun rights on a city and county basis, That's why they hate it.
		They hate our gun culture, our 1776 liberty culture coming together.
		And so if all the vendors will start, and I guarantee a lot of them are listening right now all over Texas and the country, if people from even other states will come to your event, Coming up.
		And even if they try some nasty thing and shut it down, we'll meet in the parking lot and have a rally.
		And come there and pass the hat for your legal lawsuit.
		And if everybody will get a bunch of tables, people that sell books, videos, people that sell beanie babies.
		I mean, you know, I mean, it's not just guns that are sold.
		Every Austin gun store needs to come.
		People need to be there.
		They need to cram every table you've got and fill it up To let them know that they're not going to shut you down and that you're not going down without a fight.
		I mean, they don't have a leg to stand on anyways.
		And I'm going to be there next Saturday, the three Saturdays from now, I'm going to be there with you next month.
		Give us the dates next month that it's going to be at in February.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		It's the third week in February.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		I don't have a calendar right in front of me, but it's the third week in February.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Guys, pull up February 2009.
		I apologize.
		Okay, that's right after my birthday.
		I was supposed to take my kids camping then, but camping can wait.
unidentified		So that's the what days again?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		20th and 21st.
		Yes, sir.
		And that's the date.
		What days again?
		20th and 21st.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that's the date.
		Now, again, I've spent three and a half hours today.
		Three hours, 27 minutes on this.
		Why?
		Because, folks, they're openly announcing an end to free speech, an end to everything.
		It's all happening.
		We've been completely robbed.
		They go intimidate people into posting notices saying you can't sell guns at this gun show and private sales.
		We've beaten it at the legislature, so now they're trying to go around it.
		This Andrew Purkell, I mean, he told you he was a veteran Austin police officer?
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		He didn't say veteran, he just said he used to work for the force.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, it may be another Andrew Purkell.
		There's another one in the Austin Chronicle.
		Give me a close shot of this, please.
		And it says, Austin Chronicle, which is a questionable source, but no, I mean, not on issues like this.
		A Travis County Grand Jury indicted December 27th, 14-year veteran of the APD, Detective Andrew Purkell, on one count of attempted sexual assault, a third-degree felony, one count of public lewdness, a Class A misdemeanor, and one count of indecent exposure, a Class B misdemeanor, in connection with the September 15th off-duty incident, according to a statement released by the APD.
		Reportedly, the alleged offense took place at a hair removal business, American Laser Center, and involved an encounter between Purkell and an as-yet-unnamed Laser Center employee.
		Purkell's attorney, Chris Gunter, told the statesman that the charges were not true, that everything that transpired between the two people was consensual, and that he and his client are anxious for a trial.
		So, we need to look and see how that ended up.
		But I wonder if they're trying to use that against him as the manager of the event center.
		Maybe it's another Andrew Purkell who was an APD person.
		Maybe.
		We'll have to check into that.
		Interesting info, huh?
unidentified		Yeah, definitely.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		The other thing that I was going to mention before that I really appreciate everybody coming in and saying that Well, I appreciate that.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		for this and luckily y'all contacted me so I didn't have to even try to find out where y'all were located but I mean it was hundreds and hundreds of people that threw out your name and said that this is the man that you need to get informed so I appreciate somebody in the position to support our rights actually standing up and saying they're willing to do that Well I appreciate that I guess it was 2000 and
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And they were going to pass the end of the gun show loophole.
		It's a loophole.
		It's illegal.
		It's not.
		Everything's perception.
		And it was going to pass.
		And I went down and I got a couple hundred of my listeners and they said, you know what?
		You don't get to testify.
		That was an open hearing.
		Juan Hinojosa, the state representative, the head of the Judiciary Committee.
		He said, uh, you don't get to testify.
		And he brought up these two black guys who got up and did like a gangster thing.
		They used race.
		They used racism.
		They, you know, to say, yeah, we're dangerous, you know, thugs, basically, and you need to ban guns and ban the gun show and, and, you know, we buy them at the gun show.
		Total lie.
		And so Jews of Preservation Firearms ownership local member, Ran in and said, you've got a video camera, get out here.
		And like in a movie, this Smith guy, who's with the Violence Policy Center and Handgun Control Incorporated, was going, 100, 200, 300, and that video was all over the web, crashed our servers, and I've tried to find our original tapes.
		of it.
		And I think somebody did find it about a year ago.
		Guys, Google bribery caught at Texas Capitol, Alex Jones.
		And so I run up with a camera and he goes, ah, and acts all suspicious.
		And then it turned out the committee got in trouble for paid testimony and all this stuff.
		And we barely beat the bill.
		But the NRA, and it would have banned grandpas, given their grandsons at 22.
		No private gifts, no transfers of firearms.
		And when I really found out that the, and then later I saw the documents, that the NRA is actually an anti-gun group, and that Charlton Heston, who I was a fan of and interviewed, was hired in 68 to do TV ads saying we need the 68 Gun Control Act.
		People didn't know that.
		And he later said that was wrong to do, but the point is that their board is run If they're going to get our guns, they can't let us have a group with 10 million members or whatever.
		They've got to have it controlled.
		And they called me an extremist and said the bill was good in the Dallas Morning News to ban gun shows.
		And to ban junior shooting sports.
		But the point is, I have to always march down and defeat this myself with the help of my listeners.
		Anybody else out there?
		Absolutely.
		can start fighting this and catching it.
		I mean, it just takes the willingness to resist these people.
		And people are scared of the BATF.
		I mean, they burn down churches.
		But you know what?
		You've got to stand up against them.
		They can't stop us all.
		And so you're saying hundreds of people said this was the show to get on.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		That's why other people have called me, and, you know, they want to do interviews and stuff too.
		But once I found out that you were interested in it, I wanted to make sure that you got the full details first.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, sir, I appreciate you.
		I'm not tooting my horn.
		I'm talking about the power of our listeners.
		Absolutely.
		And do as many interviews as you can and just bullet point, you know, I mean, this is racketeering.
		I mean, this is slimy like out of communist China.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's talk to Kenneth in Indiana.
		We already talked to Kenneth that I keep calling Keith.
		Keith that I keep calling Kenneth.
		I'm looking at a screen way across the room.
		I may be losing my eyesight here.
		Rick in Tennessee, you're on the air, go ahead.
unidentified		Hey Alex, how you doing?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm pretty freaked out, but I'm glad people are rallying against this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, this is unprecedented.
unidentified		Yeah, I have a couple quick comments and a big question for you.
		First of all, one of my local gun dealers here in Tennessee was at that show.
		I can't get a hold of him today because of the holidays, so I will get a hold of him first thing in the morning and try to have him contact you.
		Second of all, I think we have a duty to debrief and re-educate the citizens of the United States because we're being micromanaged so much that it's going to start with guns, CPS, Bows, knives, etc.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they've announced all U.S. citizens will have three yearly CPS visits, all Head Start people to put their kids in it, get three CPS visits, guilty until proven innocent.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it is an iron curtain of tyranny.
unidentified		Well, I had a run-in with CPS here about a month ago, and once I went into their office and started tape recording the conversation, things changed.
		And then the fact that they wanted to see my children or whatnot, and I started quoting constitutional rights.
		You know, you can't, you know, it's a violation of my First Amendment, Fourth Amendment, Fifth Amendment.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They moved on to an easier target.
unidentified		They haven't contacted me since.
unidentified		Yeah, they went on to find somebody else's kids they could rape.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And by the way, at least half of them are child rapists, but go ahead.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		Now, my main question is, is how do we rally around our sheriff to get him behind us?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because the sheriff... You educate them, and if they're not a constitutionalist and they're a lapdog of the feds, you run somebody for sheriff and you take your county over and kick the feds out.
unidentified		All right, and my final comment would be this, that as the United States, we are the last beacon of hope for democracy in this world that we live in.
		And a lot of countries are actually looking at us right now with everything that's going on.
		And if we lose our fight for our Constitution, our Bill of Rights, and our God-given rights, then basically the entire world is going to suffer for this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Rick, great point, and again...
		All over the world, China, Africa, all these different countries and continents and regions are saying torture's okay, secret arrest is okay, because they say, hey, America does it.
		We've now become a beacon of wickedness.
		And it's because the people have sat on their big, fat behinds, and that needs to stop, folks.
		Let's talk to Mike in Wyoming.
		You're on the air with Darwin Bedecker.
		Go ahead.
mike in wyoming ▲ ● ▼		Sympathetic towards this young man.
		I remember what it was like to be that age and be confronted with several guys with shiny badges and guns.
		But a little education will empower you.
		First off, you just need to understand that these guys, no matter how many there are, how many badges they have, There are employees, and you have to think of them as such.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, let me just interrupt, Mike, as I always do.
		I would have said, I would have punted.
		I would have said, I gotta get my constitutional lawyer on this.
		This is torturous interference to the HEB guy.
mike in wyoming ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I wouldn't have even shown up.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		I actually can't hear the other audio that's going on right now, so I don't know what's being said.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, can you hear the caller now?
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		No, I can hear you.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		I can't hear the caller.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Mike, go ahead and talk again.
mike in wyoming ▲ ● ▼		All right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Can you hear him now?
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I can hear him now.
unidentified		Okay.
mike in wyoming ▲ ● ▼		Now, the first thing that should have come out of your mouth was, what is your statutory authority for telling me I have to do this, or telling me I can't do thus and such?
		Most of these guys operate under color of law, and they won't be able to tell you that when they can't cite any law.
		You tell them, then please leave my property, leave this building, whatever, or I will call and have you arrested for trespassing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What about letting them in?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		How do these guys always force their stouts into these events?
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know as far as my show, they didn't even enter through the front door.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		They came in through a side door.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They don't even ask.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They just come right in.
mike in wyoming ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, you need to have security there to keep their butts out of there and, and, and, and, uh, you know, our higher on off duty cop for the front door, you need to throw their butts out.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They don't have a warrant.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, absolutely.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I just, All the gun shows let them do this.
		It's like somebody coming in your house, squatting on you, and then urinating on you and telling you that they're your God.
		I mean, Mike, go ahead.
mike in wyoming ▲ ● ▼		People need to get back together in little groups and study the law, which I did some years ago down in Arizona.
		Institute on the Constitution.
		They have good DVDs on studying the Constitution.
		That's IOTConline.com.
		And for studying just statutory law and civil law, you can't get any better than Mike Brown, a group called Erwin Rommel School of Law, which is at rommellaw.com.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And let me ask you a question, Mike.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Why do you think they're getting so bold just to engage in absolutely mafia operations?
mike in wyoming ▲ ● ▼		They're trying to push us into a confrontation, obviously.
		They know they're going to find someone who's on the edge.
		If they can provoke us into violence, they win, as we all know.
		We've got to stay cool and use the law.
		It's still on our side.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But I don't think the average cop or fed realizes that when the dam breaks, which they're sitting there trying to do, what's going to happen?
mike in wyoming ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I can't believe it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They think we're wimps because people don't go absolutely wild.
		Do they have any idea what people want to do?
		Yeah, well... There are a lot of people who want to die and want to take a bunch of people with them who are just sick of all the crap.
mike in wyoming ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they should know that they're being set up and just used as cannon fodder.
		But the phrase you need to remember, everyone needs to remember, is what is your statutory authority?
		Just commit that to memory.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, in all my babbling, no law, no regulation, they just make it up!
		But Mike, you heard how they were trying to be careful, but they weren't careful.
		I mean, they were trying to just intimidate this whole thing into process.
mike in wyoming ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they were very careful not to put anything in writing.
		But I'm sure you have plenty of witnesses now.
		And, you know, Title 42, 1983 was, I think, was tailor-made.
		And take these guys individually into court, and they won't be pulling this again.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well look, they obviously put this former Austin cop, and it looks like it's the same guy who was indicted.
		We don't know if he was convicted for attempted sexual assault.
		He's off the force now.
		He left for some reason in 2006.
		Suddenly he's over the events center.
		Then the stings start getting run, setting up the old people.
		So they left.
		The SACS did.
		I think there's a whole conspiracy here the more we burrow into this.
mike in wyoming ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it certainly sounds like it, but that guy could be guilty of impersonating an officer, if he's the one you're thinking of.
mike in wyoming ▲ ● ▼		But whether you want to call this a conspiracy or not, that's a tough story.
unidentified		No, no, no.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You're missing what I'm saying.
		The Chronicle has the name of an Austin police officer that matches Andrew Purkell.
		That's the name of the former cop that said, I'm former APD, that manages the events center, who had him there at the meeting.
		With all this happening.
		And so it looks like he went there in the last few years.
		That's when they shut down the last gun show.
		Looks like they've got an inside man in there who they've got control over.
		In control of the events center to run ops against gun shows.
		You understand?
		Yeah, you understand.
		We'll be right back.
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alan watt ▲ ● ▼		We're pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.
john perkins ▲ ● ▼		I have tremendous influence on our President and Congress, and they really are calling the shots.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		For the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation, the criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.
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		I say I shot the sheriff.
		But I swear it was in San Peefes.
		Freedom came my way one day.
		And I started out of time, yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But Sheriff John Brown, he came to shoot me down.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		for this transmission with Darwin.
unidentified		I shot the shirt.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We appreciate Mr. Bedecker joining us.
		What did your petition say that you're giving to the Attorney General?
		Can you put it up online?
		An online petition, too?
		We need to contact the Attorney General of the state of Texas.
		Who advised you to do that?
		Because that's the what to do.
		The state needs to come down on the APD and the BATF setting up their own little empire.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		It was my fault.
		I mean, I was frustrated on what happened and what took place.
		And the one thing that I could think of to get, you know, the word of the people coming in the door was to have a petition.
		So, that was basically my idea.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, we all stand together or we hang separate and the website is texasgunshow.net and email us.
		I mean, what does the petition say?
		Just, I as a citizen am upset by this unlawful activity or what?
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		Well, no.
		I mean, I didn't know all the legal jargon.
		and it was kind of put together last minute.
		It was basically just saying a petition, you know, sign a petition.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You need to get people to sign up for a class action lawsuit next month.
		That way they can't go after individuals.
		We need to have everybody there who was violated this month there to sign up to be interested in a class action suit against the APD, BATF, and everybody else.
		How's that sound?
		Well, let's do it.
		I mean, because it's a lot of hard work, but we have to stand up to these tyrants and show everybody it's criminal what they did.
		We salute you for standing up, for doing the petition, for coming on the show.
		We appreciate what you've done, and we're going to stand beside you.
		We'll have you on a week or so before the event.
		And we'll come out and interview you at the event, and we'll be there surveilling the enemy operation, trying to stop them from any set-ups or anything as well.
		We know how they operate.
		God bless you, and I appreciate you joining us.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate everything y'all have done today, and it just feels good to have somebody that's powerful enough to have influence in our corner.
darwin boedeker ▲ ● ▼		And I thank everybody, you and your staff, for letting me have this time.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		God bless you, Darwin.
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		Yeah!
unidentified		Thank you for listening to G-Wars.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let me hear you yell against tyranny!
unidentified		Resist!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Fire up for liberty!

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