Alex Jones, Damon Vickers, and Bob Chapman dissect government overreach, alleging the Obama administration ordered ineffective $1 billion body scanners for psychological enslavement while pushing globalist population control. They expose the suppression of Able Danger by the FBI and CIA, which allegedly identified 9/11 hijackers before the attacks, and accuse bankers like Geithner of silencing public outcry during the AIG bailout. The discussion highlights Colonel Anthony Shaffer's testimony that the CIA used Blackwater mercenaries as covert operatives to bypass military oversight, concluding that these coordinated efforts reveal a shadow government engineering economic collapse and manufactured consent. [Automatically generated summary]
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Big Sis wants to see Under Your Clothes.
Yes, yes, the complete Orwellian society arrives and Homeland Security announces they want mobile naked body scanners, brain scanners on the streets, football games, high school, college, NFL, Kentucky Derby.
You want to go anywhere in public, you're going to be humiliated and a biometric 360 naked body scan is going to be made.
And Obama is ordering an additional $1 billion in naked body scanners.
According to the Toledo Blade today, and here's the Associated Press, mind-reading systems could change air security.
So complete and total quackery.
They're not reading your mind.
This is just another way to interrogate you and claim that you're a thought criminal.
We literally are living in a nightmare Buck Rogers society.
But we're not flying around with silver jetpacks, no.
All the technology is being used to enslave humanity.
The good news is, the head of American Airlines says he doesn't want the naked body scanners and they don't work, and points out what security experts have already said, the underwear bomber on Christmas Day was brought through security, they had naked body scanners in the Amsterdam airport, they weren't used, and they wouldn't even have detected his underwear bomb, the large firecracker he had in his pants.
So, that is all coming up today.
You know, in the history books, how did America end?
How did we become a high-tech police state?
How did Americans let them naked body scan their children, their wives, their husbands?
Oh, somebody had a firecracker on an airplane.
Land of the coward, home of the slaves.
You know, when the wind blows, the American people slit their wrists and worship government and just scream, oh God, we love you government, take all our rights away.
So, we're going to be breaking that down today.
We have Damon Vickers, who is Syndicated radio host in his own right.
He is a pundit on CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, Barron's, Investors Business Daily.
He heads up Nine Points Capital Partners and the website is npm.us, ninepointsmanagement.us.
So, npm.us, and he's with us for the Balance of the Hour.
I agree with him a lot about gold being a good investment, the dollar being in trouble, world government being established.
I don't agree with him that we have too many people, and we'll debate that some of the day.
Some of our listeners really liked Mr. Vickers on his economic views, didn't like him on his population views, but he is back with us due to popular demand, and we appreciate Mr. Vickers joining us.
You run a great show, and I have to say that I purchased your Fall of the Republic and New World Order movies, and I watched them thoroughly, and I watched I think one of them at least twice, and they're well done, and they're thought-provoking, and I think for a society and a world at large that spends too many hours per day comatose, DVDs like that and content like that can really wake people up, and they're great.
And you also noticed something that I hadn't noticed in New World Order that I consulted on and I'm in, but it's not my film, though my name is on the back of it.
They just did that for promotion purposes, I guess.
Infowars.com is there as one of the producers for some reason.
But it's like an honorary degree or something.
I don't deserve it.
But I'm driving around on the radio and tuning into your radio show as they're interviewing me.
That's strange, yeah, especially with the New World Order thing, yeah.
Well, I mean, that was years... I don't do a radio show anymore, but there was a time that I was on about 45 stations, five days a week, for two to three hours a day, and during that period between 2000 and 2003, When the NASDAQ was collapsing, I spent a good part of my radio show bashing the CNBCs and the Bush administration and the like.
So the trend was certainly down, and there were cheerleaders for a collapsing market, and I wasn't one of them.
Now, Damon, briefly tell us a little bit about your business operation and some of its success because, you know, that's really why we have you here is because you've been one of the most accurate and successful people out there in predicting where things are going.
Well, I run a fund, and we also run a private wealth side.
Our fund, Nine Points Capital Partners, had a fantastic year in 2008.
2008 was arguably one of the worst years in market history, with trillions of dollars of value being wiped out, and our fund rose by 63% that year, which is a pretty good thing.
So, we made money in a bear market, and more than a little.
Also, if you take a look at the 2000-2003 period, we were short during that whole duration as well.
And when 9-11 hit, we were 100% short.
Not because I had inside information or anything like that, but because the trend was very decidedly down.
And that's something that we believe that news, that we can't necessarily always know what the news can be.
We can monitor what the trends are, what the societal trends are.
I think you do a great job at that, Alex.
But the news tends to reinforce Whatever our positions usually are, if the trend is either up or down.
So, we're flexible.
We're fluid.
Our style is adaptive.
And so, I think that gives us an edge as investors.
Other investors are more attached to what they think they know, where they're worrying about the future, but they're not really living in the present.
And that's something that we don't do.
Living in the present is what we do here at Nine Points Management Research and at Nine Points Capital.
Okay, I want to get into the economy and what you see in the year 2010 with Damon Vickers.
But first, let's go back to the controversy of the last time you were on with us three months ago.
You were talking about Your view on world overpopulation and that, you know, something must be done about it.
And from my research, that's really the governing push for world government, according to the UN's own statements, is to set up a planetary government, as the White House science czar has said, To order a one-child policy.
The UN a few weeks ago at Copenhagen called for a global one-child policy.
The Communist Chinese called for that.
There have been editorials all over the newspapers and on TV calling for, in fact the BBC says, should we bring back rationing today?
I have that article right here for PrisonPlanet.tv viewers.
Well, I mean, I'm glad you brought up the Chinese.
is at PrisonPlanet.tv.
Should we bring back rationing to save the environment?
I mean, that is hardcore tyranny.
What is your real view on world population, and how do you substantiate that we're overpopulated, and what do you say we do then?
Well, I mean, I'm glad you brought up the Chinese, because, you know, when we think of the Chinese, they were a country and a society that was so enmeshed in malaise.
You know, they'd had some very, you know, austere programs under Mao and a rejection of their emperor system and all that.
And they went to that one-child system.
And I think it was a good part of their, quote, economic First, I mean, people never thought the Chinese could get themselves together.
People would always talk about China as a region of the world that had promise.
You know, Wrigley Gum would get a contract to sell gum in China, and then I remember the conversation with some guy down in Texas, and him saying, well, think about all those billions of Chinese chewing on Wrigley Gum.
So when the stock went up, you know, it was $3, $4, $5 that day when they got that contract.
But they as a country have turned things around economically.
Now, that has come at a cost.
There's no doubt.
China is a very austere, police state, authoritarian, centralized control government.
Not much of anything happens by chance in China.
It is heavily designed.
You asked the question, though, about what is my real view on population.
I would ask you, have you, I mean, I assume you're an educated man, you're a Renaissance man, you're a free thinker.
All things that I love about you, Alex, have you traveled at all to places like the Caribbean?
Have you been places like in the South America?
Have you seen some of this?
Have you seen, you've been places like that.
Have you seen pictures of the world at night?
I'm sure you have.
Where the lights out.
You know, lights used to go out.
It doesn't go out anymore.
When the sun sets on a large part of the planet, and we're looking at the Earth from space, you ever seen those pictures of the planet where the lights are everywhere?
Especially around the coastlines, but also the cities, and then the Northeast in particular, and the Caribbean, and Puerto Rico, and there isn't much of the world that we haven't lit up.
And really, Probably because we're afraid.
That's why we have all the lights on, because we're biological creatures, and we're afraid of the dark.
Fear is a large element of what we as humans still face, and it's, as you point out all the time, fear has been a very effective means of controlling a population who is fear-based.
And we still are!
We're so afraid of what goes bump in the night, and of things that we're not, and people that look different than us.
We do have in regions of the world an imbalance of population relative to what the resources can support.
And you take a look at places in Africa where that is the case, South America where that's the case, and in particular the Caribbean, and increasingly in the Middle East.
And these are areas where you have a lot of tribal societies, nomadic peoples, and Indian societies and tribal cultures in Africa that have had the benefit, and I say that really sarcastically, they've had the benefit of Western-influenced or missionaries or do-gooders Or, you know, grand social involvement by the Peace Corps, or whatever it is, to try to help them out.
And it hasn't helped.
In fact, to the extent that we've been involved in Africa or South America to try to mitigate poverty or disease or suffering, we have only compounded the problem and geometrically increased the level of suffering faced by But, Damon, I have the Royal Commission on Population.
Then we'll get into the economy and open the phones up.
Damon Vickers is our guest.
We appreciate him joining us today.
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After the banks have all bankrupted us by design... If individuals on a global basis, Alex, are unable to make responsible decisions, then of course global government will likely step in and begin making those decisions for them.
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But I'm sure you also have other research that says that they genetically engineer viruses and that they could do population control by genetically engineering viruses as well.
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Get your copy of Fall of the Republic on DVD at Infowars.com or watch it online right now in super high quality at PrisonPlanet.tv.
Damon Vickers is our guest.
He heads up one of the most successful management firms and investment funds out there, Nine Points Capital Partners.
npm.us is the website.
I'm Alex Jones.
Our websites are infowars.com and prisonplanet.com.
And I want to talk about a host of other issues in the time we have left with Damon.
I didn't mean to get stuck on the whole population agenda.
My point is, whether you believe we're overpopulated or not, the globalists have actually moved to keep the third world in poverty and cause the people bomb, while they're then always selling eugenics and population and one-child policies in the West.
And if you really study eugenics, it's not what is publicly taught about improving the race, improving intelligence.
It's actually targeting the most intelligent that aren't part of the elites.
They call it, you know, the random genetics out there that threatens the global elite's hegemonic empire.
And I just morally cannot sign on to China and forced abortion and infanticide and killing babies.
And Damon, I don't think if I took you to China and put you in front of a woman...
And if it's about keeping the globalist hegemony intact and the Rothschilds and the Bilderbergers and keeping that fine genetic line intact, the truth is that those lines and families, there are real problems with those people.
I mean, when you don't intermix family's genetic code or you have too much marrying amongst cousins, you get some kind of strange outcomes.
You get people that are manic depressive, suicidal.
But what I'm asking is, then why do you agree, and I wasn't saying you agree with forced abortion in China, I'm saying I, I can't, well, then you have to be against the policy.
I'm against a world and countries and individuals that think that they can act haphazardly and recklessly without there being some responsibility to their fellow beings, whether that be animals or plant life or human beings.
If Europe and the United States and Japan are having on average 1.3 children, which doesn't replace mommy and daddy, we don't need food rationing and one-child policies in America.
So, as a fund manager, I have to think about how I'm going to make money from that, because I have investors and people that I have to report to that want to see capital gains.
So, I can't determine the direction of the world, Alex.
I don't think you can either.
I would think we both agree.
That we don't want a world, move into a world that it's a police state whereby it's very negative and dark.
However, we do need, I think shown, that this experiment called democracy has had unintended consequences and has not really made the American people really all that free.
Well, you bring up a good point between the Republicans and the Democrats.
I certainly hope that we actually don't swim back to a Republican, and perhaps we have the type of environment where maybe you get somebody that's not aligned, that's not a part of a fantasy of a Democrat or Republican.
And yes, both the Democrats and both the Republicans.
Are controlled entities, and they're controlled entities by either family interests, in the case of the Tyson family, or the Stevens Investment Bank, or others.
And it takes a lot of money.
It takes a couple hundred million dollars or more to get elected president.
And by the time you actually swear your oath, you have totally sold out whatever soul you had a thousand times over.
You're a soulless hunk of a man by the time you're sworn in.
I hope that we get a third party candidate.
That's what I hope.
In terms of the U.S., the United States and the globe on a whole, we've got a lot of debt.
Sovereign debt.
And increasingly we don't have a means or an ability to pay it off.
But neither does much of the rest of the westernized world.
You could also, look, if I wreck you economically, Alex, we'll say Alex Jones is a country, and I wreck you economically, and then I get to take you over.
On a larger scale, though, you could say that our democratic system, in the way that it's based upon allowing everybody to kind of get what they want, and when people get elected and they're beholden to all these special interests, that by the time it's all done with, you've just amassed all this debt because you've had to pay off all the people that got you elected.
It allows that crony monopoly capitalism and then they buy off the howling mob, the horde, to then finally loot the middle class that was left and then everything collapses.
And we are likely in the process of that happening again.
And neither you nor I can likely do much to change that natural course of direction.
But what we can do is try to position ourselves financially and try to position ourselves and our families so that we survive and seek to thrive and prosper in the environment that we have.
I mean, I work for a better world, but I also position myself to be in the best possible position.
And knowing what's coming in the future, I've been very successful.
And these other fools that think buying mainstream television, which is meant to deceive them and to tie them up in false realities, is meant to neutralize them and keep them out of the game, the average yuppie thinks it's cool to spout off the party line of the system, thinking they're smart, like some mindless parrot That's been, you know, taught to repeat something.
That the fantasies that we might have of bashing liberals or bashing conservatives is a game that we play against each other and it's just ridiculous and it's just so utterly retarded.
Yeah, I totally agree with you.
Absolutely.
But I think the good news is I think more and more people, Alex, Are waking up to that fact.
You do a good job of bringing that out to people, of telling them that.
And they need to know that.
That bashing, you know, that liberal bashing or conservative bashing, this is a stupid game that has no end, but with no ultimate.
I really do, because the person inside me that says that he doesn't want to live in the future, and he doesn't want to live in the past, but wants to be present in the moment, doesn't like to make projections.
However, taking a look at where the moment is, and where we're likely headed, what are we looking at?
Dollar continues to look weaker, because they continue to have to print money.
This morning we came out with jobs.
We still show the economy losing, I think it was 85,000 jobs.
We had an upper revision of 4,000 in the prior month.
We need to create a minimum of 100,000 new jobs every single month just to keep up with the growth of our population in the United States.
And it's not as bad as it was at 700,000 lost jobs last January, but we're still losing jobs.
So there's a critical issue.
The job situation is pretty, pretty, pretty serious.
On the stock market, the trend does appear to be up, though.
However, even with all this bad news, equities appear to be rising.
So the stock market actually is looking pretty good.
Interest rates, bonds, we don't like bonds because rates, Alex, they're near zero.
And in fact, two weeks ago, the Treasury did an auction where they convinced people and succeeded in selling them bonds with 0% interest.
That's crazy!
The last place you want to be is in bonds when interest rates are this low.
Gold continues to look good.
We own gold.
Oil continues to look good.
We own oil.
And oil's climbed from $68 to $83 a barrel since I think I was on the air with you.
My God, you know, let's take the first part of that first, and we'll take the natural gas disaster second.
The oil looks like it's headed higher.
A lot of that's tied to the dollar.
You know, we could see $90, $100 oil in the next 12 months.
I think that's possible.
But we'll see.
In terms of natural gas, you know, it's just the trend on natural gas, Alex, has just been A bottomless pit, and it was seemingly cheap at every point along the way down.
But natural gas is like Citigroup.
I mean, it was from $50.
It seemed cheap at $25 until it hit $15 and $10 and $5 and $3 and $0.97.
And natural gas has been kind of trending like that.
However, you do have the feel-good environmentalist saying that they'd love to see the world more powered with natural gas, including T. Boone Pickens.
but it has not materialized in prices.
So, all I can say about natural gas is the trend is still down.
Damon, we can't give up our whole way of life because somebody might blow up an airplane.
The body scanners wouldn't even protect it against that.
It has all the earmarks of being a staged event.
I don't want to march my daughters or your daughters through the naked body scanners that are recorded and saved by the government so they can then have your biometric ID and scan you from a distance.
They've now admitted today that is what they're planning.
Let's talk about that for a second, the biometrics, and this is an area that we've been involved with over the years, and that the interface, the human interface between person and machine is disintegrating at such a rapid, fast rate that we are likely to hasten the RFID and the chip arrival and the tracking of human beings.
Well, I'm not sure the government, what you can do ultimately about people's independent free will, and I guess that's where you need those thought scanners to kick in.
And from an investment standpoint, there are probably some investors that would love to see an investment cycle in such an industry, because we've virtually had a- But I could invest with bank robbers!
I can't disagree with the fact that a high percentage of people that find themselves desirous to be, quote, corrections officers and or police have a sadistic bent, perhaps, and that's why they pursue jobs like that.
But the public's taught through the culture, oh no, the police aren't sadistic and you need to let them just run wild and do whatever they want and keep us safe from underwear bombers.
Damon, this is what I always hear from high-powered people, like you grew up around the Rockefellers and people.
I, through life, have run into a lot of these people, and they'll say, they'll say off-record, the people are slaves, they want to be slaves, all you can do is protect yourself, Mr. Jones, and you ought to join us, because the horde of people out there want to tear you apart.
But that's the rationale to then do all these evil things, because just because the general public's evil, doesn't mean that I have to become evil.
Well, we're certainly not seeing that from the establishment.
I see darkness a lot worse from them than from the thumb-sucking baby public that wants a big daddy to take care of them.
We got two segments left with Damon Vickers.
Your phone calls Sam, John, Eon, David, and William.
Straight ahead.
Stay with us.
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Okay, we don't screen our calls, other than sometimes I say first-time callers only.
So I don't know what these callers are going to say to Damon Vickers, but let's not beat him up too bad so he'll come back again with us.
Let's talk to Sam in Florida.
You're on the air, go ahead.
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Hi Alex, my question is a little bit off the wall for your topic that you've been speaking about, but I'm curious to find out if you've heard on the 26th of this month of Obama having to report his birth certificate to a federal court.
No, I haven't heard about that, Sam, and I appreciate your call.
I mean, I think I think there's something to it.
It should be investigated.
But at the same time, he's lied about everything.
He's a puppet.
It's a distraction.
Lobbyists, torture, secrecy, wars.
I mean, we've got to start worrying about the next puppet they're putting in.
I agree.
That's what my films Fall of the Republic try to do, and Obama Deception, is show the stupid left you're being manipulated.
Same with the right wing.
Right wingers buy the video and think they're going to find out about how evil Obama is.
Left wingers see it and think it's an Obama basher, and they actually find out they've been bamboozled.
That's the whole point.
They find out it's all a scam.
It's all a scam.
Let's talk to John in Texas.
You're on the air.
Go ahead.
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Just get these quick points out of the way.
My perspective is a little unique because I come from, my father was in Air Force Intelligence for 18 years, stationed in Philippines, Colorado Springs, worked for NSA and just traveling around the country, settling here in Austin.
What I did realize is, after listening to you especially, that there is something more going on.
What I would like to say is, if we utilize the blessings of advanced technology to improve and sustain the lives of the whole population, there's water generators, solar power generators, can help bring fresh water, electricity to the poor.
I think, I think, uh, I think nature had a, had a, had a, there was a lot more balance in places like Africa and South America before... Barry Malthusian, they said that in the 1750s.
Okay, if you take a flight from Austin to Denver, Colorado, and you're a few thousand feet up, you can see and realize how big our world really is.
So overpopulation is a joke.
And now, in my opinion, there's a genocide against global middle class, especially against the U.S.
here, and that's why I plan on running as a rep for Texas State District 46 against Donna Dukes and other corrupt officials, because that's where it starts.
The releases were pretty good to counter the greenhouse warming.
I mean, in a larger context, everything that happens on the planet is natural, including pollution, because it all comes from here.
But we may or may not have operative processes that are acting against us.
I don't think you can dispute the fact that increasingly there are large segments of the world that are being polluted by our activities at the lakes and the rivers and the streams.
I think global government will ultimately be the solution that the world chooses as a desire to solve its problems.
Well, that's why we have you here, because... Individual states and countries will have to surrender a large part of their free will, and quote your term, sovereignty, to a global government.
I was trying to finish up and saying that's somebody who you've met, somebody we've confronted.
The point is, is that Kissinger said in 73 they were going to use war and famine to control the third world.
I mean, I mean, we know this.
We know this group is not friendly.
Damon, I appreciate you coming on the show.
We appreciate your financial info.
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What's really going on is the globalists wreck the third world, which isn't hard to do.
They play different tribal groups off against each other.
This is in their own documents we've listed here.
They then export large portions of the third world population to the first world.
Get them on welfare through multiculturalism, turn them against the domestic population, and use the imported poor to wage war against the middle class.
Then the illegal aliens become legal.
They pull the lever to disarm the population, to rob the population, thinking they're going to get some of the booty.
It's then given to the central banks.
And we saw this with Copenhagen, where they promised Western money for the third world, but really it was take the West's money, take the third world's money, and give it to the banks.
This is how the game has worked.
Pressure from below and above.
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He joins us now.
He heard the tail end of Damon Vickers.
And you know, I have Damon on because he really believes what he's doing is good.
He really believes this global government is coming and that that's pretty much what's needed.
And when you talk to globalists, and he's a pretty high-powered guy, they really believe they're right.
They really believe this is good at that upper mid-level.
That he inhabits.
And so we have him on so people can hear it from them.
That's why we had Rothkopf, the head of the Kissinger Group, on.
So you can hear it from them.
Okay.
And, you know, I don't think Damon is a evil person.
I think he, in his own way, is being an opportunist to play both sides of it, to position himself well, as he said.
And I asked Bob Chapman, who didn't hear the interview, he's heard the last five minutes on hold, what he thought.
He said, I think that guy's an opportunist.
And that's pretty much what Vickers says.
He says that's all we can be.
So that's kind of that worldview of just assess the way things are and go with that.
No.
I'm going to assess the world and try to change it for good as long as I don't violate other people's rights, liberty, or property.
But your take on population, then we're going to get into the Copenhagen situation, lawsuits being filed.
Against the fraudsters, what's happening with the economy, what's happening with the dollar, with gold, with Bob Chapman.
And we'll continue with your phone calls as well in this hour.
Bob Chapman, you have been with us for three weeks because of the holidays.
Instead of having three or four, five, six, now families are having two, maybe one and a half.
And that's happening in most societies that want to advance, they realize that it's a handful paying for and clothing and making sure that the children get the best education possible so they can be successful in life.
So it's happening all over the world and I think in some sections of the third world it might continue to be a problem.
And, you know, there's something intrinsically wrong with people who want to amalgamate people and put them into serfdom and have this so-called intelligentsia that knows better than the public does what's good for them.
And this is this whole concept.
We are the leadership and we know.
Well, I get news for them.
There's millions of people who are just as smart as they are throughout the entire world, and they're not going to let them do this.
It's wrong.
It's unnatural.
And to force people to become members of a new world order, or force people not to have children, is not natural.
Well, they only allow the immigrant populations to have their racial identity and the Ford Foundation and others globally fund hatred of the West, but that's only because in this stage of the game, the controllers, the intelligentsia, are directing these giant hordes of people as weapons.
Here's the New York Times.
Immigrants riot in Italy amid racial unrest.
Thousands of immigrants protested against racism.
When it's Africa that's invaded Italy over and over again.
In a southern Italian town on Friday, after a night of rioting, in one of Italy's worst episodes of racial unrest in years, dozens of Africans in several cities smashed car windows with steel bars, stones, and set cars and rubbish bins on fire.
Police said at least one car was attacked by passengers inside, several of whom were injured.
So we have racial attacks.
This is going on everywhere, but it's always loving, oh they're just striking back against evil.
No, they're brought in, they're put on welfare, their position is weapons systems.
And again, in Europe, they'll play two Eastern countries, whites off against each other.
In Africa, they'll play two African tribes off.
In Latin America, they'll play two different groups off against each other.
Those sort of things were not going on at that time.
At least in Zimbabwe and South Africa, where I lived.
But since then, and that was 30 years ago, since then, the situation has changed dramatically.
And you're right about the genocide that goes on.
And this is to control.
You know, when the Western powers were in Africa, Well, that's the old British model of take your flag down, but control your puppets and the people will take ten times the abuse.
You know, the British were the largest colonizers in Africa, and they did bring law, order, development, and they took that piece of the action as well.
But, you know, and having lived there, the process worked well for the local people.
I mean, prior to them coming, They just had one war after another.
The crime rate is up several thousand percent in South Africa, but the media won't talk about it.
And now we have one of the Italian members of parliament is in trouble, the New York Times says, because he said, quote, we've tolerated all this illegal immigration all these years.
And that's what's causing this now.
See, the politicians aren't even allowed to tell the truth, because this process of destroying the West must accelerate, just as the empires have destroyed the third world, because that makes them more easy to manage.
And you use a third world population to blow out the economy, drive down wages, you get them on welfare as a voting bloc that takes over the country.
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And the tack that they're taking, and incidentally there's another fellow here, Who's involved with Mr. O'Sullivan, who is a former Central Intelligence Agency agent named Ken, Ken, Kent, K-E-N-T, Clisby.
And what they're trying to do is get some of the co-workers at Penn State to substantiate the emails that were discovered between Michael Mann, who is a professor... But Mann admits he wrote it!
That's true.
But they want substantiation.
And if they can get substantiation, what will happen is the government will try to recoup.
And I think the figure is $23 million that they plunge... Yeah, they're going after the fraud of these universities getting massive federal grants off of scamming.
And they want the money back, and when they get the money back, they share it with the people who said, yeah, he did that, he said that, and, you know, he said the whole thing was a scam, that sort of thing.
And that's what they're looking for, and that's the tactic taken for openers.
I don't know about criminal proceedings, but there should be.
Unfortunately, very often there isn't.
The government's more interested in retrieving money than they are putting people away because one is good because they get their money back because they made a mistake.
On the other hand, if you put people in jail, it costs them $40,000, $50,000 a year.
And so they would really rather get the money.
And so we haven't heard.
This is the beginning of the beginning of this thing.
Sure, it's been going on for a couple of months now, but it's starting to gel.
It's just like the problems that we're seeing on Wall Street with Goldman Sachs.
I wrote about what Goldman had done in the collateralized debt obligation.
And we bleated and yelled and screamed and said, why hasn't anybody sued Now these are the institutions that bought this bogus paper and then finally we're starting to see lawsuits by labor unions, funds, states who have been built.
They had no collateral to back up their bet so to speak they were the bookmaker taking the bet and all of the recipients who were involved in doing business with AIG because of the the bankruptcy they were left out in the cold $112.4 billion and if they're not paid back which they haven't been that will destroy confidence in the system exactly so
So what the Fed did is they created the money out of thin air, ran it through AIG, and they said, look, you guys keep your mouth shut, because if you open it, we'll destroy you.
Well, that's like when Bank of America said we were told to shut up and take the money, Geithner tried to deny it, and then Bank of America just released the audio.
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Day after day, alone on a hill, the man with the foolish grin is keeping perfectly Okay, by early next week, I will get the three contest rules written up.
Our three contests expose the naked body scanners.
And I did see, after we talked about it, people in England protesting naked.
They did it before we even talked about it or thought of it ourselves, separately.
People to protest naked to illustrate to the world that you are being recorded naked.
You know, something extreme to get media attention.
Extreme things happening, take extreme measures.
Because they're going to make you be scanned naked and lose your privacy and be humiliated to train you to accept all this if we don't say no and stand up against this.
But I told you two or three days ago when I first talked about that, that that isn't the official contest.
We're just thinking of ideas of things that would get media attention and point out how horrible this is.
The more I think about it though, I'm not going to have a contest specifically where we say, you know, whoever has the best topless protest.
Okay, that would certainly be the most devastating thing to the media.
It would get the attention and point out you're going to be recorded naked.
You understand if we don't stop this, the government's going to force you to do it and have mobile vans driving around doing it and brain scanners and passive body scanners that scan your naked body from a distance.
That's now in the mainstream news today up on PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com.
But, people are already having those protests before we even thought of the idea, separately.
People always think of the same, I think like 10 guys invented radio the same month around the world, not just Marconi of Italy.
But, it's just the best protest video.
You have a protest, or you go to a protest, you edit the best video that has info wars in it.
That way we get the heads and visitors, and it goes a little ways towards paying out the $10,000 in prize money.
We'll announce it next week with specific rules, gotta follow local laws and all that, and you will win.
And people can do whatever they want in the demonstration.
In fact, I even said that day, I don't think you specifically, you know, to be part of the contest, I'm saying people could go out and be naked, and you know, the best naked, or partially naked, or maybe in bikinis or whatever, to point out your, you know, to get media attention.
It would definitely be a giant, devastating action against them.
I am not going to have the contest specifically be for that.
I think it could be anything you think of, any idea you have.
Also, the best poster that you post in legal public places and then videotape.
We've had several contests in the past like the Obama Joker poster situation.
So that is all coming up next week.
The best stunt that's legal and lawful, $5,000 to expose the body scanners.
The best media stunt, the best poster posted in public and then videotaped, so you'll win for the best video of the stunt, the best video of the posters, and the best video of the demonstration.
Total, $20,000 in prizes.
$5,000 for the best poster video, $5,000 for the best stunt video, and $10,000 for the best overall protest.
And you can decide yourself what you think is the best thing to do.
So that is coming up.
We'll have specific rules and details.
And I told you with the boycotts, I'm getting your ideas, your emails, your calls of the best boycott to call for next week.
So we're also going through that process right now.
We're percolating.
We're putting ideas out there.
We're seeing what you think of them.
I would say 90 plus percent of people like the idea of the naked protest.
10% or so don't like it.
Regardless, it's about stopping the naked body scanners, them making you go through it and be recorded.
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Gold, the dollar, And then we're going to go to your calls.
But first, Bob, the naked body scanners.
Do you believe, as I do, this is an outrageous push to make people capitulate and submit to government?
Because if you'll let them record your naked body, you'll put up with anything.
And, you know, Every time that we and others put together all this information and expose it, and it gets all over the country and then all over the world, again, we've got them on the run.
And I'm telling you, I truly believe this.
We're killing them.
They don't know which way to run.
Everything they do just turns into a pile of dung.
And this scanner thing isn't chart off on the board of one of these scanner companies?
That's what Wall Street, banking, and our government are all about today.
It's just right in your face.
And they just don't care.
Now, they will care later when we get all of these people out of Congress who really shouldn't be there, who are on the take, and we can maybe have a decent government.
And that's up to you, listeners.
You've got to get these people out of office, as many as possible, so we can have a shot at getting our country back.
And if that doesn't work, we get serious problems.
Yeah, Damon Vickers even agreed with that last hour.
It seems like anybody with half a brain knows gold and silver is the place to be because it's not a bubble, because gold hasn't even gotten to half of its 1980 inflation level.
That revolving door between Wall Street and Washington, it's got to be shut down.
There's plenty of bright people all over the country who would be happy to be Secretary of the Treasury or the Assistant Secretary of the Treasury, etc, etc.
And once you've identified the bankers and how they wreck things by design, when we kick them out of power and they try to sabotage the economy and we have evidence, we just send the FBI march in to arrest them!
Instead, the bankers are now positioning for excise taxes and sales taxes, and they have Glenn Beck and all the other Fox people saying the conservative thing is more taxes.
On top of that, you have all of these homes that are in inventory that the banks won't put on for sale, because there's too many of them out there.
And it goes on and on.
Commercial real estate, the banks will not lend to really good, bona fide people who have bought these buildings, because they've been told by the Fed, don't spend any money.
and medium-sized businesses that make up 70 to 90 percent of all the jobs out there.
So you're not going to see any job recovery because the banks aren't going to lend because they want to stay in business, and that's the way it's going to be.
Two quick points, and I'm sorry this actually came to mind during Damon Vickers' segment, but the first, I can agree with some of the points Damon brought up, and certainly we do have problems worldwide, but what needs to be realized is that they are solved through inspiration of behavior, not controlling but what needs to be realized is that they are solved You do that, and bad things start to happen.
And the second point I found pretty much a sick comedy was the fact that the New World Folks like them think that the sheeple, as they like to put it, are pathetic because they have a herd mentality.
Well, I submit to them that they actually have a herd mentality as well, and the fact that they all coalesce around fear, trying to control everybody else, and trying to control the truth.
Fall of the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation, the criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.
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Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists!
They're asking for more matches!
And the Congress is saying, who do we make the check out to?
And depending upon how much money he's got, if there's millions in it, well, then he'd have to use some other things like sovereign treasuries from Canada or Switzerland.
But it's pretty simple.
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You email me and you tell me the problem and I'll get you the answer and all the people to work with.
Yeah, so much of this is, even our great listeners, Bob, who are great people, they're not running for office, they're not taking action, they're not involved.
We need everybody to take action.
You don't have to save the world by yourself.
Everybody doing a little something every day will bring these people down.
And it's just waking up a neighbor, waking up a police officer, going to county commissioner's quarters, city council and speaking, going to your state legislature, shaking hands, talking to the legislatures, telling them you don't want new world order, you don't want bigger government, suing corrupt politicians, saying no to the banks.
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Now I guess we can safely say that there were people within the FBI and other agencies who actively protected and aided the alleged terrorists.
With all the resources available to U.S.
intelligence, you would think that someone within would have detected something.
Well, one did.
The black operation program, Able Danger, identified the hijackers prior to 9-11, but the FBI wasn't interested.
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Was the commission that investigated the 9-11 attacks told that lead hijacker Mohammed Atta had been identified and as Al-Qaeda operative more than a year before terrorists struck?
Leaving a project targeting Al-Qaeda as a global threat a year before we're attacked by Al-Qaeda is equivalent to having an investigation of Pearl Harbor and leaving somehow out the Japanese.
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Schaefer and his team tried to stop the hijackers prior to 9-11, but were blocked.
Later, the military would begin a smear campaign against them in order to discredit their findings.
A Pennsylvania congressman says there's a smear campaign going on inside the Pentagon and he wants the defense chief to get to the bottom of it.
Republican Congressman Kurt Weldon says Pentagon officials are trying to ruin one of their own, who's gone public about a top-secret military intel unit.
Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaffer, who was the first member of Able Danger to go public, has now been told in writing by the Defense Intelligence Agency that he can't speak to members of Congress or their staff without prior approval.
And now a security clearance, which allowed him to deal with classified information, has been pulled.
The congressman says Schaffer has been gagged, punished, for speaking up.
It's obvious to me, this is a clear attempt to silence this guy, but now even more than to silence him, to ruin him as a person and a military officer.
I've talked to all the Able Danger players, and they all agree, this is a witch hunt against Tony, it's wrong, it's un-American, it's unacceptable.
Pentagon reportedly does not want the public to hear next week's Senate testimony about the former secret intelligence unit known as Able Danger.
Two congressional sources have told Fox News that the military is pressuring senators to move the hearings behind closed doors.
When the Able Danger hearings were held, Schaefer and others were gagged.
Eventually, Schaefer would be able to speak at a whistleblower's hearing.
Many of us take seriously our oath of office to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
Let me be up front here.
I am no Boy Scout.
I was not hired as an intelligence officer because I hung out at the Christian Science Reading Room.
My job is to get information using tried and true intelligence methodologies.
According to my legal counsel, until I disclosed the able-to-endanger information, I was a rock star.
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Most of all of my operations and operational records remain classified.
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Our next guest is with us until about 40 after. here.
And he's gonna come back on in the summer when his new book, The Dark Side of the Force, comes out.
Much of what he knows he can't tell us because of national security, but he's got a little bit of new info he can reveal here today.
We're going to talk about a host of issues, the underwear bomber, the body scanners, the police state, 9-11, how he was gagged for being able to talk to the public about what he knew, how he was persecuted.
He's Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Schaefer, of course, of Able Danger fame.
You've seen him on television many, many times.
And he is with us again for the next 30 minutes or so.
Colonel Schaefer, it's great to have you here with us.
Well, I'm glad that we got in touch with each other.
There's so much going on, and I could go over your bio, but for those that may not know who you are, recap who you are and your experience with trying to stop 9-11 and then your persecution.
Right, well, to put it all in kind of a nutshell, I'm a case officer by trade, trained by CIA years ago, a lot of years ago.
My primary job with the Department of Defense was to conduct human intelligence operations, which the public commonly knows as espionage.
I did that for about 20 years, and my specialty was special operations support, direct support special operations.
So while I wasn't necessarily a Green Beret, I spent a lot of time with them, supporting them, and then doing things in what's known as the black world, the black operations world.
And of course, within the context of that, I did a lot of it both as an Army civilian, As an Air Force civilian and also as a Defense Intelligence Agency civilian, all along I was an Army Reservist and a lot of the stuff I would do and still continue to do is as an Army Reservist.
And so the primary focus of all that work, frankly, was going after hard targets, going after the real challenges of the country, the North Koreans, the Iranians.
I did a lot of work on things like counter-drug back when we were actually focusing on counter-drug back in the 90s.
And it all kind of culminated in the late 90s, at least from my perspective, in a project called Able Danger.
And Enabled Danger was essentially an entrepreneurial concept that was brought up by General Hugh Shelton, who was then chairman of the Joint Chiefs, who tasked General Schoomaker, the then commander of Special Operations Command, to bring together a group to really do out-of-the-box thinking, to take a clean sheet of paper, if you will,
and try to see what would be possible to go after a transnational, and what we mean by transnational is something that does not fit in one single country, a transnational threat, which back then was the then blossoming threat of al-Qaeda.
And it was very innovative, We tried to put together a hybrid team of folks from Defense Intelligence, which was my element, something called Stratus Ivy.
We were a special mission task force, along with technology and support of the Army, Army Land Information Warfare Activity, which is doing some very advanced data mining.
Which was then being funded by Representative Kurt Weldon.
There was a great interest by Congress to try to actually do some things with new technology.
All on behalf of the Special Operations Command, who had the charter, who was tasked by General Shelton and General Schoomaker, to try to find ways to go after Al-Qaeda.
And again, it's notable here, Alex, that this was all pre-911.
This was all done in 98, 99, 2000.
Uh, and it was a very advanced for the time, data mining effort.
That was the, a lot of people don't understand, that was just one part of it.
The actual components, the larger moving pieces, if you will, were never really brought to light during the Able Danger hearings and everything else.
And I will talk about that a little bit more in the book, when the book comes out.
Right now it's going through a review, so I'm not sure what's going to make it through completely, but the idea here... You're having to get, for those that don't know, national security overview and release authorization from what, the Department of Defense, CIA?
Since I'm an Army body and I was actually on active duty with the Army during the time that I was conducting the operations in Afghanistan.
And this book is going to focus primarily on Afghanistan, the dark side of the force.
And it has to do with my work there, working as part of Task Force 180 and Task Force 121.
I was actually attached to 121, which is General McChrystal's command in Afghanistan back in 03 and 04.
And it goes into fairly good detail about how we were doing things, and frankly, we're portraying it clearly as the tipping point in Afghanistan.
A lot of the folks I worked with have collaborated.
I was assigned to something called the Leadership Targeting Cell, the LTC.
We had good cooperation, excellent cooperation from my colleagues on that.
And so we've been able to kind of go through it in detail.
It's kind of an action adventure in that I think the readers will like it by the fact I try to tell it from the first person, much like the Martin Sheen character, the Captain Willard character in Apocalypse Now.
It's almost, and you can probably appreciate this from your perspective, Alex, the insanity of seeing bureaucracy in action.
A large part of the focus is kind of give people a feel for what it was like to have to deal with not only the enemies that are shooting at you, but your own enemies who are behind the wire who just really don't want to do the right thing.
And so we try to portray this fairly, and it'll be focused primarily on my work in Afghanistan.
Well, we're going to talk about that one, and I'm looking really forward to a full-hour interview with you when the dark side of the force comes out and find out who the Emperor Palpatine is in this story.
But expanding, you then tried to tell the 9-11 Commission and Congress this info and then they began to persecute you.
Well, it's interesting how it all kind of popped up.
In the book, we'll only talk about the initial disclosure, and it'll end kind of with me being pulled off the front line after my second deployment to Afghanistan.
But my initial disclosure came directly to Dr. Philip Zelikow, who was the then-chair of the 9-11 Commission.
And what I just told you and your audience is what I told him in about an hour's worth of briefing, where I lay out all the bones of the operation.
I lay out everything from who was involved, what was the focus.
I talked about some plans and operations which were related to it, which we were using to support the targeting effort.
And, of course, one of the things which drew total silence and shock when I brought it up was the fact that we discovered three of the 9-11 hijacker cells.
We discovered three of the four cells of the 9-11 attacks.
And it was, you know, total shock and dismay by the people in the room, to include Dr. Delacalle.
And then, during that initial disclosure, he pulls me aside at the end of that meeting, and that boggartness happened in October of 2003.
And it gives me this card and says, what you said today, and I'm going to quote as accurately as I remember, and I think this is directly from my testimony, what you said today is very important.
We need to continue this dialogue.
I need you to contact me upon your return to the United States.
And at which time I explain to him, well, you know, I'm going to be, I'm actually undercover here, so I'm going to have to give you, you know, my real name is something else.
I will, you know, contact your staff when I get back.
And it was during that time, between October and February, and then January, frankly, something happened.
And to me, there's still a mystery of what exactly happened.
But sure enough, I followed up, contacted his staff, and all of a sudden, they don't Even though what I said there, that they were very, very shocked, very uninterested.
And I was told after talking to his staff twice, and I'll get a quote as accurate as I remember it, we don't need you to come in.
We have all the information on Able Danger that we need, unquote.
And that's kind of when things started going wrong, and I really didn't know why.
Next thing I know, my clearance is suspended, and I'm pulled off the front line, despite the fact I received the Bronze Star, was sent back a second time to plan a surge operation for another surge to go after bin Laden.
And I was pulled off over what can only be described as petty issues.
Well, I mean, hold on before you do that, Colonel Schaefer.
We also have Farmer, one of the head lawyers for the Commission, saying there was a cover-up going on within the Commission.
We see them persecuting you.
We see them... I mean, tell us what happened to you and the persecution.
But then, what do you think about Sybil Edmond's testimony that she was listening to communiques where elements of the CIA were communicating with al-Qaeda and the Taliban and knew about their movements?
Thanks to the Intel, you and others were gathering right up until the moment of 9-11.
Well, I tend to believe that there's a great deal of truth to that, and there's a couple things I want to add to that to back up your point.
First, when I was in closed hearings, when I was getting ready to go into closed hearings back in 2000, I'm going to fast forward here a little bit, but in 2006 when I was in closed hearings, Representative Sylvester Reyes himself comes up to me, and as you know, Sylvester Reyes is now, I believe, the chair of the House Supremacy Committee on Intelligence, and Representative Reyes comes up to me and says, Colonel Schaffer, I know there's something to what you're saying because Dr. Zelikow came and approached me in January of 2006, I'm sorry, 2004, and said,
Uh, there's something called able danger.
We think it's promising.
Uh, we'll get back to you on that.
And frankly, they never got back to him.
So this is one of the senior Democrats coming to me and saying they told us about it, but then they never followed up.
I do believe something happened internally, and I've talked to a couple of the 9-11 Commission folks.
I can't go into a lot of detail, they may not give out their names, but frankly, one of the 9-11 Commissioners told me personally, everybody was covering for someone within that Commission.
That is to say that everybody who was a Commissioner had an agenda.
But what about Sybil Edmonds saying she was decoding the FBI slash NSA recordings out of, you know, the foreign language, out of Arabic, and she's sitting there listening to it, and it is elements of Western intelligence
Interfacing, and we know that Dr. Zbigniew Brzezinski brags in two books he wrote that they got the Arab Legion together out of other Muslim extremist groups, and that they were interfacing with it right up until the attacks.
That makes perfect sense for you, a separate division going after them.
Once you expose that you guys could have gone after them, but many others have said they were kept from going after them, then that shows clearly that they wanted the attacks to happen to set up a police state in America.
We saw Special Forces colonels and others, your contemporaries, your peers, in the news in 2002 complaining, and I had the author of Jawbreaker on too with the CIA saying, we weren't allowed to go after anybody real, and every time we caught somebody real, we were told, let them go.
Well, and I understand what you're saying about the Jawbreaker, and I've read the book, and that's what I'm going to tell you here.
Regarding Able Danger, there's still a mystery as to why it stopped.
The operation planning occurred during the 1999-2000 timeframe, and as far as we all know, as part of the team, The last tangible, real element of AbleDanger occurred in January, February 2001, in which the AbleDanger core team briefed General Shelton at the Pentagon about the options.
And this is the thing I wanted to emphasize about AbleDanger, Alex.
It was not about data mining.
It was about options to take action against Al Qaeda.
Because, as a matter of fact, up until June of 2001, I was getting calls from my colleague, the commander now, Captain Scott Philpott, asking me to reactivate my component, my stratus IV element, to help them continue the targeting process.
And frankly, he was getting a great deal of static.
I was pulled off.
As a matter of fact, I was pretty much fired because I wouldn't back down on the issue.
I actually had a confrontation, which you can find on the Internet.
I talked to the government security news where I was interviewed and I talked about the fact that my boss, Major General Rod Isler, and I had a shouting contest where I basically said, look, we've got to do this because this is a clear target, and I was told it's not your job.
You know, I'm the general, you're not, and I'm telling you to stop.
So essentially during that time frame from February of 2001 until, you know, the attacks, Those of us who were trying to actively work this, who, you know, because of our... And Alex, you understand this.
I mean, I didn't just come off the street and pick up being an intelligence officer overnight.
I had quite a bit of experience at the time.
And so did the entire team.
And we were all saying, there's something wrong here.
We've got to do something because there's indications that these people are not only going to do something, we have cells of al-Qaeda within the United States.
Well, again, I can only go back to my direct experience.
There was an asset who had fabulous access to al Qaeda, who was was I can't go into a lot of detail.
I have to be very careful about this because I talk about this in closed hearings.
There was an operative, someone we had recruited, who we had every indication was loyal to us, who had fabulous access to the al-Qaeda planning elements within Kabul.
And frankly, this gets closer to the point of what Able Danger, my part of Able Danger, was all about.
That was really the focus for me, was Kabul, and what this individual had access to.
And one of the things I told the 9-11 Commission was, We don't know why we were told to terminate our access to this individual.
This became a huge battle because my then-boss, Major General Bob Harding, actually went to the Hill to plead for our ability to continue running that asset because he had fabulous access, and for some reason it was terminated.
You've got to look at this because, again, we had testimony, we had hearings on it in 2002, 2003.
Again, when I testified in 2006 about the same core issues, and here we are in 2009, and I find it, and I'll be totally blunt here, I find it insulting.
That you have the special advisor to the president, Mr. Brennan, saying, you know, well, you know, we just didn't get our act together.
As an American taxpayer, I'm aghast at the money they have spent.
Over the past six years trying to fix this, after, you know, I personally put my career on the line to go testify about it, and yet no one seems to take seriously the need to fix the system.
And Alex, it's not about more.
It's not at all about more.
As a matter of fact, we're going the wrong way.
The more bureaucracy you create, the better the chances are you will have a Hassan or an underwear bomber Get to security, because you are not layering security, you are bloating security.
And this is where, you know, and I know that one of the reasons we're talking is because Mr. Tarpley was saying, you know, I've been out talking about this a little bit, and I think he agrees with me on this point.
I'd like to believe so.
I am not for more bureaucracy, as a matter of fact.
The actual elegance of able danger was we avoided the bureaucracy.
And that was one of the downfalls of the project, I believe, is because we avoided the powers that be relating to who the pros consider themselves to be regarding al-Qaeda and all that.
I actually had a confrontation with one of the CIA officers at SOCOM.
He was a friend of mine.
I had to go in and brief him on able danger.
And he was doing as friendly as he could be when he told me.
Tony, I understand what Able Danger is about.
I know it's not competing with us, but I can tell you right now, we CIA will never share our best information with you, because if you're successful, and we're not, you will upstage us.
Well, you know, I actually was on ABC News with Brian Ross' unit on this just recently where I talked about the fact that, this is one of those strange ironies, I was the guy who had to handle the first two Blackwater operatives who were killed in action back in October of 2003.
So not only do I have direct knowledge of it, you know, I was the guy that, you know, when they got killed I had to do the graves registration stuff, that's the military term for Basically coordinating the removal of the bodies from country to leave.
So, in my judgment, absolutely.
One of the things we recognized early on during the war is the CIA really wanted to run its own game.
And, again, this is going to be something we talk about in the book to a great extent.
And what they were doing is, and this is not new, this is in the public domain, they have their ground operations branch, which actually does their paramilitary operations.
And one of the problems after 9-11 is they had a hard time building it up quickly with qualified and cleared officers.
So one of the things they did, they took a shortcut and started hiring Blackwater individuals who were essentially coming out of Army Special Operations, out of Navy Special Operations, and putting them out in the field as CIA operatives.
And again, this has been on Brian Ross.
You can go to the internet, you can pull up the story where I talk about this on air.
And yeah, the fact is this: they were taking these contractors and using them essentially, I'll be blunt, mercenaries.
They were using them in a role, not as security guards, but as guys outside the wire trying to train Afghan and Pakistani individuals to be essentially their operatives on the ground to do special operations.
So that's what we're faced with right now, and frankly, one of the things I said with Brian Ross, and I'll say it again here, is that I think they did a great deal of this to avoid oversight.
Because I think, and I've heard this from other folks on the Hill, the staffers, that there's a lot more that's supposed to come out on this, because frankly, it appears now, and I think that's one of the reasons that Mr. Panetta, the DCI, actually went over and reported this to Congress, because I think when he discovered the fact that Blackwater was being used in operational Not as just guards.
I think that's one of the reasons he made the disclosure to Congress immediately.
Because that is not within, as I understand, the CIA's purview to use Blackwater as operatives instead of guards.
Yeah, that is clearly something that they used because they didn't want to use Army guys, regular uniformed folks.
And as you know, we who are in uniform still have to follow a lot of rules.
Well, regardless of those laws and rules, you could have decapitated the Al Qaeda leadership months before 9-11, and it didn't happen, and when you exposed that, they tried to persecute you.
That is my belief, based on all the evidence, and other folks who have similar evidence, and frankly, insiders who have confirmed it to me, but will not come forward because they don't want to give up their career.
They understand if they say anything, they will be gone after as well.
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Ladies and gentlemen, Jason Bermes' film that I produced, Fabled Enemies, details what really happened on 9-11 from all the evidence.
My film Terror Storm also goes over it.
At the bare minimum, governments let this happen so they can take your rights, your freedom.
Take the MIAC report we leaked that the military and police gave us.
Take the Homeland Security report where it's really all set up for conservatives, libertarians, Bob Barr, Ron Paul, get us out of the UN stickers or demonized.
What do you think of hearing that in the news, that most of homeland security and domestic operations now is focused on conservatives?
I mean, the public's told this is all for Al-Qaeda, and then the whole thing's set up for the American people.
Well, I gotta tell you, I believe most of the measures which have been put in place to include, you know, the body scanner, a lot of other stuff, and frankly, and we talked a little bit on the break about the scanner supports, you know, I gotta tell you, most of the stuff is proven if you look at the scientific evidence to not really be all that effective, but we spend tons of money, I actually attended a hearing a while back on the backscatter devices that they put in the ports, and the fact that they had to report, the Department of Homeland Security had to report They're not really working.
And there is something called ASP.
And of course, their answer was, of course, we need more money.
If you give us another, you know, $100 million, the manufacturer thinks they'll fix it.
And that's part of the problem.
I think almost the government becomes a taxi, if you will, for corporate America, because a lot of these companies have huge amounts of resources invested.
Raytheon, Boeing, some of the other big companies, I'm not trying to single them out, but I'm just saying, That a lot of companies do benefit very much by investing in these technologies.
And my problem with the process, obviously, as someone who, you know, I'm a think tank guy, is that they don't really work.
And my belief is good money after bad is a key indicator of a lack of accountability.
You've got to be honest.
You've got to stand up at some point and say, it ain't working.
We've wasted all this money.
You've got to stop.
We've got to take a different course.
And this is where we have problems all throughout the system.
Lack of accountability.
And again, this is indicative of the fact that we almost had a Northwest airliner brought down by the fact there's no accountability.
Colonel, I don't mean to interrupt you, but we've only got six minutes left with you.
You've agreed to come back on in the near future.
And we want to give out any websites, any other information you want to give here at the end.
But let me go back to 9-11 briefly.
Here's CBS News.
Hijackers live with FBI informant.
Just going to throw that out.
And they were ordered to stand down, not just you.
This is Newsweek.
Exclusive.
The informant who lived with the hijackers.
Here's another one.
Newsweek.
Alleged hijackers may have trained at U.S.
bases.
Then we get, in the Associated Press, the Colonel, head of the Monterey Defense Language School, saying, look, some of these guys were at our base.
We have Springman, the head of the U.S.
Embassy section in Saudi Arabia, being ordered to let them in, even though they were on watch list.
And he was told later, oh, that was part of secret training.
They were our operatives.
So we have all of that.
You add all of this together, what can you tell us about talking to other colleagues about hijackers being allowed in and out of the country, being protected, not acting in a very Muslim extremist fashion with all the whores and drugs and topless bars, the FBI living with them, Israeli intelligence following them around, what was really going on here in the U.S.? ?
So that information was passed forward and there's good evidence now from a friend of mine who did some research that the information that we came up with was reported to President Clinton in the Millennium Bomber Report.
One of the things that was disclosed that Sandy Berger was after was copies of the Millennium Bombing Report.
And within that report, that was well prior to 9-11, was, within that report, and this is reported in John Ashcroft's book, I don't remember the name of the book off the top of my head, but John Ashcroft actually admits that there was information in the Millennium Bombing Report relating to al-Qaeda cells, active cells, being found in the United States.
So, you know, we believe, based on the evidence we have, that that was our gig.
That was Able Danger.
And obviously at that level, you don't call things by its operational name, but we believe that that information regarding what was in the Millennium Report that went from Ashcroft to President Clinton was the Able Danger information.
And it was so damning that Berger broke national security laws, he could have gone to prison for life to stick it in his underwear and socks to get it out of there.
So that is, in my judgment, telling by the fact that, yeah, we did discover these guys.
It was hugely bad for a lot of folks.
And one of the controversial points I've been told about lately, and this is, I think, new for everybody, one of the things my colleagues have told me is, like, yeah, the moment that that happened, you know, there was consideration of allowing Special Operations Command to go do some stuff.
You know, in the United States, and that was hugely controversial.
And I think that's one of the things they don't want to have talked about, is the fact that, you know, some people, to include myself, thought that, you know, look, if these guys are operating here, we need to do something sooner than later.
And if we're in the best position to do something, let us do it.
And that was hugely unpopular for any number of reasons.
Posse Comitatus and all those other restrictions, which I understand why they exist, I support them.
But clearly, you know, we had discovered that there were active cells within the United States.
And just so everybody understands, this is not new.
Eric Clinesmith, who was the actual analyst who discovered this stuff, testified in front of Senator Oren Specter on this point in August of 2005, I believe.
Well, you've told us some new things, and you're getting, hopefully, security clearance for your book coming out in the early summer, perhaps even late spring.
But in the last minute we've got, what can you give us foreshadowing on that is new that's coming out?
Well, I think, you know, I mean, just speaking of the general situation right now, you've got the problem with people like Brennan, who have been part of the bureaucracy for the entire time.
Don't forget, Alex, no one was ever held accountable for 9-11.
Mr. Brennan, doing what he's doing right now, akin to Bernie Madoff being brought back to investigate the damage he caused with his Ponzi scheme.
It's ludicrous.
So what we gotta do, if we only focus on one core issue, that issue needs to be accountability.
If you don't, if you can't do the job, you need to be replaced.
As a matter of fact, I'm a public supporter, but I can't call for a new investigation.
Well, I don't agree with everything that all the movements stand for out there.
I think the one common issue, Alex, we all agree on, we need a new investigation.
We need to really turn over all the rocks, get to the real bottom, an independent commission, not consisting of people who have agendas, to sit down to go through everything in detail for a full accounting.
And frankly, people need to be fired if they fail to conduct themselves in accordance with their oath of office.
No, there's not, but what you can do is, you know, I'm a senior fellow with the Center for Advanced Defense Studies, C4ADS.org.
We do a combination of studies on technology and policies relating to defense.
I do a lot of, you know, there are things I think I belong to, and obviously I'll come back with you when we do have more information about the book, and I look forward to chatting with you guys in the future as things develop.
Well, you know, it was one that was recommended to me very early on when I joined Facebook last year, so I'm a fan of it, so I look at it all the time.
He just certainly is telling you as much as he can.
And he likes what we do.
He likes the films and the material and the information.
And what does that tell you?
A big black op commander.
Telling you they could have wiped out every one of the supposed Al Qaeda commanders long before 9-11 and they weren't allowed to.
And neither was the FBI here in the U.S.
and Israeli intelligence was literally handling them all over them.
The FBI was all over them.
It looks from the best we can tell with the 7-7 bombings and with the 9-11 operations And with the underwear bomber, they get useful idiots who think they're part of drills, and in some cases they get real terrorists who are being handled by international crime syndicate, private networks, mole operators, who allow them to carry out these attacks.
And then some events are completely staged, like Gulf of Tonkin, that didn't even happen, and they just say, oh, we gotta go to war.
But there certainly are real Muslim terrorists out there.
You know, they would call themselves fighters against Western occupation.
But regardless, there are real asymmetrical people out there attacking in nontraditional military operations.
But most, when you see a terror attack and it's got earmarks of intelligence protecting it in the West, and you see a simultaneous rollout for a new war in Yemen and a new rollout of body scanners that Homeland Security is all making money off of privately, openly, criminally, in a revolving door of looting like Chertoff,
when you see all that happening simultaneously and it fits the when you see all that happening simultaneously and it fits the MO of everything you've seen over and over and over and over again, you know what's going And Colonel Schaefer didn't get into all the persecution he went through, all the things they tried to do to him, when he went to him and said, yeah, you know, and take Sybil Edmonds, who we've interviewed.
Sybil Edmonds.
She's listening to the NSA, CIA intercepts, reading them at FBI, transcribing them from Arabic and Farsi and the rest of it.
Over into English for the FBI analyst to read it.
And it's elements of the CIA.
And she's now gone to federal court and broken her gag order because she was called in another case and was able to talk about it.
And she said narcotics running, child kidnapping, sex slave, weapons with Al Qaeda and elements of the CIA and private contractors.
Remember that?
And she said this years ago.
She put a lot of it out here on the show and then in the last year came out with all of it.
And she said the CIA was running Al Qaeda right up until 9-11.
So of course the CIA didn't want the Pentagon and CENTCOM and special forces operators and the Green Berets to be able to go out and kill their Al Qaeda frontmen.
Who themselves were just cutouts for this whole operation.
Because we have enough declassified operations from decades past to know what this operation is, and it fits.
All the pieces fit perfectly.
We know what happened.
And the goal is, take American liberty, set up a police state, launch all these new wars, start a clash of civilizations, everything the PNAC report wrote about, the Pentagon, Minions, Dick Cheney and Jeb Bush and others wrote about.
In September 20th, 2000, Rebuilding America's Defense is a white paper issued by the Project for a New American Century.
And they say, if we don't have a big Pearl Harbor terror attack...
Notice Pearl Harbor killed 3,000, 9-11 killed 3,000.
If we don't have that, we're not going to be able to launch Pax Americana.
The Empire of America.
But it's not an empire we own or we get.
Let's say we're immoral, evil, piratical demons, which we're not.
The average American.
You know, if the government said, we're evil, we're the forces of doom, we're going to take over the planet.
Most of the military and people wouldn't go along with that.
But even if you are evil and believe you got some goodies, you didn't get cheaper oil.
You got higher taxes.
You paid for a private, corporate war over opium and oil and weapons and everything else.
You paid for a war that helped global interests destroy America's sovereignty.
I mean, if you really believe Muslims are the greatest evil on the earth, why are they bringing record numbers of them into the country?
Why do they protect them with the Fort Hood and the underwear bomber and every single case right down the line?
Why is the FBI protecting them in their homes?
Why are the Israelis protecting them?
Why do the major white supremacist groups every time in the U.S.
get caught being run by the feds, founded by the feds?
They want to radicalize the political debate to make the empire look good.
If you're against the private Federal Reserve, you must be a Nazi.
If you're against the wars and the globalists, oh, you must be a Muslim extremist.
See how they do that?
And so that's why they run the radical Muslims and protect them and shepherd them, depending on what variety they are, whether they're real or manufactured.
There's all different types in this grab bag.
It's the same thing with the white supremacist.
That's why the white supremacists attack me, number one.
Because they are a federal body.
Hal Turner is a FBI agent, National Security Branch.
Confirmed in federal court last week with the FBI defending him and calling for the case to be dropped.
The U.S.
Attorney defending him as a great soldier of the FBI.
He made a mistake, though, in his operations.
A bunch of state judges got mad when he started telling people to go after him.
The states still have power.
And these judges go, I don't care if this is an FBI operation.
You don't have your operative get up there and say, come after me.
And so he's been indicted in multiple states, and the FBI comes in and says he is an agent.
He is deep cover, and they say, okay, what division?
National security branch.
Highest level security.
I mean, in fact, go to Kurt Nemo's article that links to the Hal Turner family blog, the Chicago Tribune, the Boston Globe.
The headline was, Hal Turner, national security asset.
But when you actually read the transcript, most of it's blacked out.
Because I'll have people on, like Colonel Schaeffer, to tell the truth.
There's the article.
Put it up on screen.
Hal Turner is a national security asset.
And you scroll down, you scroll down in the article, and in it, our TV viewers, anybody can go read it, when you scroll down, we have the PDFs blacked out under national security, but the parts that aren't blacked out say FBI Agent Highest Security Clearance National Security.
Are you guys able to scroll that down?
Because I just want to scroll it down.
Yeah, the article.
Perfect.
Just scroll it down and see those documents?
Click on those.
You can blow those documents up and that is from the federal court.
The Hal Turner Family Blog and the Chicago Tribune directly link to the federal And there it is, where you can read, National Security Intelligence, Terrorism, Fire and Counterintelligence.
And then you scroll down to the next document, it says he was an agent.
And every one of these major groups, see how it's redacted right there?
Every one of these groups are run by these people.
Because, that's why, what does Chris Matthews do?
Oh, I don't want socialism and government-run healthcare.
That's code word for racism.
Ron Paul says, I don't want to launch new wars.
Oh, you're an anti-Semite.
They have to radicalize the debate so that mainline Americans don't wake up to this.
They have to put a turd in the punch bowl on every issue of white supremacist activity.
That guy is an FBI agent right there.
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Hundreds of nations have fallen to tyranny in the last century alone.
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As we're finishing off this agenda...
They'll be pulling the rug from underneath Americans at home.
For the Republic identifies the enemies of our nation, the criminal offshore cartel, hell-bent on destroying sovereignty and on its ashes constructing world government.
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Tim Geithner, Bernanke, they're arsonists!
They're asking for more matches!
And the Congress is saying, who do we make the check out to?
America is such a police state that Rob Jacobson, one of my video editors, got points on his license and was sent a bill for a ticket and auto accident he never had.
Derek, one of our salesmen, paid for a speeding ticket over a month ago.
He has the receipt.
They just lost it, and they called him just now and said, we're going to come arrest you if you don't come prove that you paid this ticket.
See, the government just does whatever it wants, and I've got all these Boy Scout parents in denial.
From Fall of the Republic and other films I've made showing how they're being federalized and taken over by local police as well.
Going, well they've always trained with law enforcement.
No.
They're being fully taken over and deployed at checkpoints and at malls.
Here's one out of the Daily Journal.
Explore a program exposes youth to law enforcement in police uniforms out searching people at the mall.
The UGAN.
Okay?
Here's another one.
Irma Boy Scout troop first in state to get new law enforcement patch.
These are pouring in.
Major police departments under federal grants are taking over the Boy Scouts.
Parents say no to this, man.
This is Soviet, Russian, Nazi Germany.
Stop living in denial.
I know what's going on.
There's nothing wrong with that.
Okay.
You people really need to wake up out there.
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