Gerald Celente and Kurt Haskell dissect the December 2009 "underwear bomber" incident, alleging FBI incompetence and staged events during Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab's attack on Flight 253. Celente forecasts a 2010 economic collapse involving bank holidays and a potential World War III triggered by an Israeli strike on Iran, while Haskell details how security failures allowed the suspect entry and criticized the chaotic post-landing response. Ultimately, the segment argues that government incompetence and globalist agendas are manipulating terror scares to expand control, suggesting these events are part of a coordinated effort to destabilize society. [Automatically generated summary]
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I want to get his future trends for the economy.
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We're going to talk to Gerald Salente about all of that today.
Gerald, of course, really doesn't need much of an introduction, but he is the martial artist of trends forecasting.
And the purpose of Trends Forecasting is to provide insights and directions and anticipation of what the future may bring, and to be prepared for the unexpected.
And he, of course, is the founder of Trends Research Institute, one of the top trends researchers in the world.
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And joining us from his offices in New York State is Gerald Cilente.
Well, you know, as you know, we had predicted terror 2010 was going to be an increase.
And as the economies continue to decline, they're going to look for more and more excuses to make the people fearful so that our minds go off the bad economy.
And go on to terror.
And government, of course, is going to pretend that they can save us and protect us.
And of course, we all know better.
So they're going to use any incident, be it false flag or real, to keep gaining more control, because as we can see what's going on here, is that Obama is out-bushing Bush.
Even Bush was hesitant about sending in predator drones into a sovereign country.
He's escalated the war into Afghanistan.
And now, as most people don't know, and you reported about a couple of weeks ago, Under Obama's direction, they've been fighting the Yemen war alongside Saudi Arabia, providing them with intelligence, and ostensibly they've been providing air support and cruise missiles.
So he's taking this global war on terror to really spreading it around the globe.
Well, over a year ago here, back in October when they passed the Banker Takeover Bill, you and many other economists we had on said that it would be a sugar high, that real jobs would keep contracting, but big banks, insurance companies, they would announce big profits, which they did.
But the real economy's imploding.
Now they're admitting the sugar high's wearing off.
We'll talk about what's happening with the economy and a lot more as we look at trends in the 2010 with the master of trends, Gerald Solente.
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One of the last shows of 2009, the 29th day on this Tuesday of December.
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Okay, Gerald Cilente, I want to pick your brain today about the economy, about other trends you see developing, but finishing up with the terror.
What is your gut?
Looking at the way they already had troops massed in Yemen.
They were gearing up for this.
They ushered him on without a passport or ID.
Passed security.
Someone was filming him the whole time he was on the plane.
People thought that was strange.
Looked like some type of drill.
His father warned people.
He was on the terror list, but that was ignored.
On and on and on.
And now, oh, we've all got to accept the body scanners.
Because there's always the other side of the story.
And that is the high level of incompetence from the government.
Look who's the Homeland Security Director.
Janet Napolitano.
Are you kidding me or what?
Homeland Security, of what?
I mean, look at these people.
You know who these people are, Alex?
Remember in high school and college, the people that wanted to be the class president or the head of the student council, that thought they were smarter than everybody else, and they sucked up and glad-handed and brown-nosed and knew nothing?
Well, here they are!
They're telling all the rest of us how to think and how to act.
You know, is it suspicious?
Yes, it is.
Is the government totally incompetent?
Look at what they're doing.
Katrina Quality Rescue Skills.
They still have a hole in the ground where 9-11 happened at the World Trade Center.
Look at the wars they're prosecuting.
The military hasn't won a war since World War II.
Oh, I forgot Grenada.
They did a great job on that one.
So, I mean, you're working with a bunch of incompetents as well.
So, yeah, it looks staged also.
There could be collusion.
But, again, when you put the whole mix together, you know, it makes you wonder.
I mean, in every one of these shoe bombers, you name it, some special security person ushers them with fake IDs or no ID right up onto the plane.
And then meanwhile, I've seen old people who look like they're on the edge of death with oxygen tanks, literally being screamed at by TSA.
I mean, I won't fly through Houston, George W. Bush, George Herbert Walker Bush Airport, because they literally scream at you like animals, and they've got a bunch of...
A bunch of people on power trips literally howling in there.
I mean, it is otherworldly how screwed up things are.
So I understand what you're talking about, about the ineptitude.
This just fits so much of the past MO we've seen with staged events.
And we know they stage things like Gulf of Tonkin and other events.
Well the whole thing, the whole game is incredible.
So as we're looking at this terror strike, or the aborted one, we're looking for 9-11 magnitude terror strikes in 2010.
And when it happens, just like now for example, has anybody asked if this guy, why he did it?
What provoked him to it?
Could it possibly be, other than they hate our freedom and liberty, could it possibly be that he's Maybe disgusted with American foreign policy.
Could it possibly be the hundreds of thousands of people that have been killed in the decades-long war that America's been waging abroad in Afghanistan, in Iraq, and now in Pakistan?
And here's what to worry about.
Unlike Iraq and Afghanistan, There are 300,000 approximately Pakistanis living in the U.S.
Now, let's just suppose for a moment that you had a family member in the Swat Valley, or South or North Waziristan, or wherever else, and they've been slaughtered either by a predatory, uh, a predator drone.
Of course, they only do surgical strikes on quote, suspected terrorists, but they happen to wipe out your family in the meantime.
And the Afghan army, again instigated by the U.S., waging this massive war, where there were more refugees in South Waziristan, North Waziristan, and the Swat Valley, than since the Rwandan crisis in 1994.
Do you think you'd want to seek revenge?
Do you think you'd have to belong to an organization such as Al-Qaeda?
Or you're plenty angry and now you have the means and the wherewithal of weapons of mass destruction to wreck the havoc that's been wrecked upon you.
To do unto others as they have been doing unto you and your family.
This is why we're going to see Terror 2010 And when it happens, it'll be the same old story.
They hate our freedom and liberty.
And one other thing.
I love the line.
It comes from Obama.
It came from Bush.
It came from Clinton.
It comes from all of them.
We're going to hunt down the terrorists.
We're going to bring them back to swift justice, or words to that effect.
Oh, and we're going to catch every terrorist around.
There have been more Elvis sightings than Obama sightings.
Well, expanding on that, if some of this terror occasionally is real, any resistance is dubbed terror.
If you hold your arm up when a cop's billy clubbing you, it's now called terrorism.
Or if they're about to throw you off the cliff and you try to hold on to the edge, it's nightly news, the greatest terror attack in history.
I mean, our media is saying that if Iran is hit and fights back in any way, they're going to be nuked.
It's a new form of warfare.
We attack you first.
And then if you defend yourself, we nuke you and cry on TV and scare our nation of ninnies.
But look, the globalists know when they go in and stir up the Muslims that that's going to cause them to strike back.
It's like going up and hitting a bee's nest.
And then...
They get to take the American people's freedom.
So it's problem, reaction, solution.
The elite didn't get in power over being bozos.
And on top of it, if these Muslims really are just attacking us because they're mad, don't they know that when they attack, that makes our military come and invade?
What's the reports going out now, however, that there's another report about Israel planning to do a, quote, surgical strike against the Iranian nuclear facility?
They're kicking all this off for the police state, getting ready to go into Iran because they know there'll be real terror attacks in this country if Iran is hit.
If anybody attacks Iran, the United States, or Israel, it's the beginning of World War III.
These are the Persians, let anyone forget.
There are 70 million of them and they're armed to the teeth.
They fought Iraq for eight years.
They didn't give up one inch of territory and lost over a million people.
Anybody thinks that they're going to beat Iran Well, you know, they're part of the military-industrial complex.
Maybe it's not beating them at all.
Maybe it's just keep making money for prolonged war.
Because anybody in their right mind knows that they're not going to go down in any way.
And this is also important.
We keep hearing about, you know, the great Israeli military.
Israel lost to Lebanon.
They could bomb, like the United States, they could bomb any country into oblivion.
But once you hit the ground, it's a different story.
So, with Iran, nobody's going to be successful attacking Iran internally.
They could bomb into oblivion, as I said, it's the beginning of World War III.
There's no stopping it.
So if Israel goes in, and again there's those sabers being rattled now in the news, if that happens, we're going to be in for a hellish time in 2010 and probably for the rest of our lives.
I only say that because they've been saying this for a number of years.
And I don't know if they're trial balloons to see what kind of response they'll get back from Washington.
Because the latest, it's the same story, every administration, for example.
Every administration tells Israel, no, you can't build any more housing developments on Palestinian land.
You can't do it.
Stop.
It's against international law.
And Israel does it anyway.
And they're doing it again.
There was just an announcement yesterday for 600 more apartment units.
The administration says no.
Stop.
Israel says do it.
So Israel could be testing the United States to see what their response is.
But always remember, That the more this country is involved militarily at any level, the less freedoms that we the people have.
The worst the economy gets, and we wrote about this over and over again, when this bailout bubble bursts, When all else fails, they have no more financial tricks to deal on the table.
The next card they play is war.
And that's what we're concerned about.
I've said it on your show.
I've said it on CNBC.
I say it everywhere.
When all else fails, governments after governments take the people to war to get their minds off It's a smaller problem.
I want to get directly into your trends forecast for 2010 and beyond on the economy, on civil unrest, on the police state, on the health care bill, on so much more with Gerald Cilente.
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Shifting gears now purely into the economy, and of course we know the staged terror and the new wars are about smokescreening that and getting us to rally around the New World Order flag.
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And meanwhile, our mainstream media is telling us everything's wonderful, while the big brokerage firms are quietly telling their wealthy investors, hey, you better get ready for a possible total collapse.
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As the economy goes down, we're going to start seeing, of course, nothing goes straight down or up or down.
We're still very bullish on gold prices.
We believe gold 2,000.
What's happened is that as Greece and Eastern Europe has been going under, and of course, Sweden, Austria, the rest have been financing it, What they're doing is people are bailing out of the euro and then going into the dollar.
Well, that's like jumping out of one sinking ship and then jumping into the other sinking ship.
So, temporarily, we're going to have it look as though the dollar's rebounding.
But this is very important in putting all the pieces together.
With a high probability of when terrorist strikes in 2010, go back to what they did in 2001.
They closed down Wall Street.
If you had certificates of deposit like I did, and tried to get them out of the bank like I did, they wouldn't give them to me because Wall Street was closed and they said CDs of financial instruments.
Trade it on the street.
Now, what they will do this time, because the economy is in much worse shape than back then, we believe they'll call a bank holiday.
They'll close the banks.
That also means that when they reopen, there's a very good probability That your money will be devalued.
As you well know, Alex, what they did when FDR closed the banks, repatriated the gold, they made him sell it back to the government at $20, $67 an ounce, and then they re-pegged it, what was it, $35 an ounce, so you lost 40% of your value.
Your money was devalued.
That's the kind of thing we fear now.
A financial crisis is looming.
Terrorism is in the wings.
When it happens, they will close down the financial system.
ATMs will close down.
You will only be able to get a certain amount of money back, like they did in Argentina and other failing countries.
And when you get your money back, it'll be worth a fraction of what it used to be worth.
And again, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, just to back you up, he said a month and a half ago, when gold was at an all-time high of $1,200-plus, he said, look for the carry trade that's been reversed.
Before it went to Asia, now it goes to America.
Look for that to unwind in the new year.
In December into January, and for a few months the dollar's going to go up, then it's going to dive down again.
That's right, and we also have all these different governments saying, 300 suicide bombers on planes, thousands of white Al-Qaeda, the militias have linked up with Al-Qaeda.
Now that clearly is staged, and we got the MIAC and Homeland Security reports.
That stated the real homeland security system is set up for veterans, gun owners, patriots, the American people revolting against Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan that have been robbing us.
Can you speak to that?
To them trying to use the terror card against the American people and to what you see on the revolt end that you said you've seen coming up in 2012?
We see the revolt really gaining steam, because there's not going to be any recovery.
Unemployment numbers are terrible.
And we know they're fudging the numbers.
And that's not... This isn't made up, by the way.
Just look at the facts.
The third quarter GDP reports, 2009.
It came in 3.5%.
The stock market was, oh, jubilant.
They just rose and kept going higher.
Then they readjusted.
Well, they readjusted it one more once, down to 2.2.
As you well know, they're cooking the unemployment numbers as well.
The real unemployment rate, with long-term unemployed, discouraged, part-time, we're looking at 20%.
When winter sets in, remember, you're going to start seeing a big increase in unemployment as the temporary jobs that were created during the holidays start to disappear.
And then look behind the numbers of what kind of jobs are being created.
The jobs that are being created, even when they're pumping the numbers up, the jobs aren't worth anything.
So we're going to... And then, oh by the way, this is another big one.
All these kids with college degrees, that their parents said that it could be anything they wanted to be, they have nothing.
They're going nowhere.
It's a dead end.
So now you're putting all this together, you're seeing the beginning of the Second American Revolution.
It's underway.
It happened with the Tea Parties, the tax protests, the Fourth of July demonstrations, the town hall meeting revolts.
The people going to march on Washington, against big government, of course it's being hijacked by different elements out there, but nonetheless it's still moving forward.
So as we're looking at the economy going down, we're looking at the revolution going up, And then we're looking at terrorism.
The government knows they're losing control.
When they lose control, they tighten the screws.
And that's what we're going to see.
The screws are going to be tightened in the name of terror.
Reading a trends forecaster, which I really respect, you're believing it's not going to work, it'll take a few years, but by them showing their hand, that this is the beginning of the end of this group of corporate criminals?
He just put out a new fake report saying Iran had nukes.
That's now been proven to be fraudulent.
They're trying the same playbook.
Gerald, I want to go to calls here, but I wanted to ask you this question.
I'm sure you saw the Bloomberg article a few weeks ago where Goldman Sachs is arming its employees against the citizens and expect lynch mobs, literally the villagers with pitchforks, to come.
Again, they're criminals that have committed these crimes.
Even the Democrats on the grassroots, even the chairman of the party is against this health care bill that raises your taxes and cuts your benefits for the insurance companies who wrote it.
The Democrats have now read it and they don't care if Republicans and Democrats don't want it.
They cannot gauge the anger of the people because they are living privileged lives.
Off with their heads came about because of the same reason.
Let them eat cake.
Give them a health insurance policy.
It's the same thing.
They don't have a clue of the anger and the real frustration because, and I say this over and over again, when people lose everything and they have nothing left to lose, they lose it.
But if people are losing it and they start World War III and set up the draft, which they've been getting ready for, and run all these patriotic ads about Al-Qaeda hit us again today, they blew up the Washington Monument last month, you know, we've got to arrest your neighbors, they were criticizing the war.
If everybody knows the government's criminal and robbed them, they're not going to buy this.
And it's going to blow up even worse if they start World War III.
Well, if we don't have a new third party, but we're forecasting the emergence of a new third party in 2012.
And by the way, I made my reputation part of it back in 1988 when I had predicted in one of my books, Trend Tracking, that there'd be a new third party and someone like Ross Perot would be that kind of person.
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My question is this.
When we look at this disgusting terror attack, perpetrated false flag operation against the American people, Can we look at the put options put on Delta Airlines?
Because I checked the stocks last night, and they've dropped off 25% at least.
So, I think these people are so greedy that they bet against Delta, and that will give us their fingerprint.
Look what Goldman Sachs does, is they get you to buy things that they're shorting.
So, yeah, I don't put anything past anybody.
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Absolutely.
I'm just hoping that if we can get that information out, the actual people who are profiting from this attack, that we can stir up the revolution that we need, man.
And looking at stocks and things, I want them to envision and put a map.
Most people don't even realize that Yemen is down at the south end of Saudi Arabia.
And I want people to understand that this is a new world order, global race, and bid for power and power over the peoples and lands of places like Africa.
And well it's that key, key port there right across from Africa.
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Well, the bid to take over the areas, the Red Sea, the Gulf, the Gulf of Oman, the Arabian Sea, so this is divvying up what... Moscow and Beijing must be laughing their backside off and drinking toast as our own Congress and FBI and CIA destroy and Homeland Security destroy constitutional rights and Bill of Rights and just watch us just implode.
They had cops looking for people outside during the day, and old women would walk out with bags out of a shop and go, Officer, I just bought something, and they would release a dog on them.
Now, 25% of the world's oil moves through the straits in that area.
So if we have a terror strike, and again, Saudi Arabia, the U.S., the Yemen government are all involved in this.
There's a civil war going on there.
It's their second in 15 years.
Rebellions in the North and the South.
Religious, tribal.
It's a mess.
And what they're doing, and there's absolutely no evidence, even coming from the Saudis, saying there's no evidence, they're blaming it on Iran.
So put the pieces together.
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I just wanted to point out, if people put the map out, and this power under the guise of terrorism, Watching our poor American and blessed American military, boys and girls, going into country without declarations of war.
We're going to do a power grab in Iraq and on the other side on Afghanistan and then run into Pakistan.
So we do see the globalist Uh, in there dividing up and conquering and taking over.
And they've got a fake leftist in there to sell the left on going along with a warmonger worse than George Bush!
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Yeah, I got a call early this morning that the FBI would be stopping in my office to talk to me sometime today, and they did.
They left a little while ago.
Our interview today was pretty similar to the interview they gave me Uh, well, we were being detained in customs after we got off the plane with one exception, that I would say, and that was that they brought a stack of pictures they wanted me to look at and identify if I knew various people that they showed me.
I mean, again, this is all part of the fake make-work.
We saw this with Oklahoma City and other suspicious events.
They'll just bring a boatload of papers and stuff that doesn't matter, and then your information that is so vital will go into the deep six bin.
And that's why I wanted to get you on, Mr. Haskell, but I think you're now experiencing what I wanted to warn you about, about vital witnesses just getting ignored.
You know, I'm an eyewitness in this case, not an expert witness, and I don't want anyone accusing me of having any kind of an agenda to discredit the facts of this case and what I've witnessed.
Well, let's talk about what you saw then, because we've got you to the bottom of the hour.
Plenty of time to flesh this out.
You know, instead of like five minutes on CNN or ten minutes on Fox, plenty of time for you to be able to break down in fine detail what you saw, what you witnessed, and we're really excited to have Kurt Haskell on with us.
His wife, Lori Haskell, was also on the aircraft, bombed by the underwear bomber.
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They were over there sightseeing, a sightseeing safari.
Coming back through Amsterdam, things got a bit hairy.
Coming into Detroit from Amsterdam, he runs the Haskell Law Firm.
Very busy person.
We appreciate him joining us.
He just had the FBI in his office, but he is aware of Infowars.com, and so we appreciate him coming on the show with all the hundreds of media requests he is no doubt getting.
Okay, just telling the story, but finishing up what we talked about in the last segment, then telling the story, sir.
The first thing you asked, you said, to the FBI was, why are you here interviewing me about this and showing me photos when you have the surveillance footage from Amsterdam?
Well, you know, it was very similar to the one I did in Customs.
You know, basic questions, take me through everything, what did you see, can you describe the people that you saw, etc, etc.
With one exception is that they had a stack of pictures and they went through them one by one with me and asked me to identify each person or not to see if I saw them anywhere or not.
Oh, well I was going to predict that, but I wanted you to say it yourself.
I mean, if they are trying to cover up the investigation and screw it up, this is standard procedure.
Now they're trying to impeach the witness, because they really don't like what you saw, so we need to demand all of the airport video be released, not one video that was shooting a sidewall.
Just so you know, again, I'm not making any opinions.
I'm just stating what I witnessed.
He gave me a picture of the terrorist.
I don't know what his name is exactly.
It's a long Muslim name.
I'm just going to call him the terrorist.
I said, OK, that's him.
And then they said, can you identify this guy?
And it looked to me like it was the terrorist again.
And I said, is this some kind of trick where if I answer this wrong, Uh, you guys are going to try and use some kind of smear tactic against me to discredit me, and they kind of laughed, and I said, uh, it looks like the terrorist again, but why don't you give me a full body shot?
Because, you know, part of myself identifying this man had to do with his entire body, because he looked a little different.
They showed me a picture of a man and they said, do you know this man?
And I said, I looked at them and I kind of laughed and I said, Isn't this the man that had the bomb in his carry-on bag that you arrested in customs that you refused to admit exists?
They didn't really like that comment from me and had no comment back to me.
But I said, it sure looks like it's the man you refused to admit exists.
I repeated that same story to countless news agencies.
Now, not all of them, because some of them just want to do a two or three minute blurb on me and, you know, what I saw when it was going on or Mr. Sharp Trust Man or what have you.
So, before we boarded, obviously we're in Amsterdam.
It was just my wife and I. There weren't any seats in the boarding area, so we sat on the floor by what I would call the ticket agent, the last person that checks your boarding pass before you board the plane.
We're about 10 feet away or so, just playing cards.
And, you know, passing time, and I was kind of people-watching, and I saw these two men approach the ticket agent, and they just kind of caught my eye because it seemed strange to me that they were together.
Uh, one I would describe as, uh, he looked like he was a poor, uh, a black teenager is how I would describe him, 16, 17 years old or so.
What I thought was 16 or 17 years old.
And the other man looked like a 50-ish.
He looked wealthy.
Indian, what I would say Indian man now, you know, whether he's of a similar race or something, I don't know.
But to me, it looked like he was from India.
And, uh, they approached this ticket agent together.
It was quiet, and I could hear the entire conversation.
Only the Indian man spoke, not the black man, and what he said was, this man needs to board the plane.
He doesn't have a passport.
The ticket agent then responded, well, if you don't have a passport, you can't board the plane.
And then the Indian man responded, he's from Sudan.
We do this all the time.
And the ticket agent then said, well, you'll need to talk to my manager or something along those lines, and pointed the two men down a hallway to go speak to the manager.
They then proceeded down the hallway.
This was the only time I saw this particular Indian man.
This was the only time I saw the black man until he tried to blow up our plane a few hours later.
The pilot comes on, the speaker, and he says we have 10 minutes to landing.
Flight crew, take your seats and buckle up.
A flight attendant walks by my seat, mumbling to herself, something smells like smoke.
I look up.
I'd previously been looking at the monitor on the back of the seat in front of me to get the flight conditions and everything, because I like to watch that when we're landing.
I looked up.
I'm in row 27.
I could see smoke coming from row 19, eight rows up.
It wasn't a lot of smoke at that time.
It looked like it was coming from the floor, but I couldn't see the floor because I was sitting down.
So I unbuckled my seatbelt, took a few steps up the aisle to get a better look, and then it burst into flames across the floor of the seats and up the wall to the ceiling.
Just in row 19 and just to the seats left of the left aisle, which I think there were three seats, A, B, and C.
When it burst into flames, people were screaming, fire, fire, terrorists, water, water, water, we need water, somebody get water.
Flight attendants were screaming.
The pilot comes on the intercom and says emergency landing and starts speeding up.
And while this is going on, the terrorist man is being hauled off into the first class area.
Just to interrupt, Mr. Haskell, I also read and heard that the stewardesses were screaming, sit down the whole time, and almost like it was a bad thing to have these men go up there and take this guy out.
I asked my wife if she heard anything, and this is what she says about it.
It sounded like what I thought was the landing gear coming out, and then she said, I heard like a little popping noise after that, but I just thought it was ice breaking off from the opening of the landing gear because we had been in really cold weather.
And she said, you know, I thought that's what it was.
Well, there are so many things, Mr. Haskell, to talk about here.
In the last few minutes we've got, and I want to say bye to you during the break.
I know you've got to go.
We appreciate this time.
In the last five minutes, any other points you'd like to make?
Any key issues that haven't been discussed?
And as a concerned citizen who could have been killed by this, As a free person, I mean, you do have a right to make any statements you want about the investigation.
We are five days into this and we've not seen any surveillance footage.
The media doesn't seem concerned about eyewitnesses seeing a man videotaping the whole flight aimed at this guy.
That's obviously an accomplice or a handler or something.
We've got this other guy getting him through security.
I thought the security after getting off the plane was a complete embarrassment.
A total disorganizational mess that actually put us in more jeopardy than we were already in.
Just quickly, two things.
They left us on the plane for 20 minutes after we landed, not knowing if there was a bomb anywhere or whether the fire had spread below the floor.
Uh, into the cargo hold or by the gas tank.
The original fire was directly above the gas tank.
Uh, in row 19, seat 19A.
Uh, number one.
Number two, they should not have let us take our carry-on bags off the plane, and then even worse, stand all together with them for an hour before the bomb-sniffing dogs got there, not knowing if there was a bomb in any of the bags or not.
And it looks like what appeared to be a bomb was discovered by one of the dogs, so...
Those two things made us considerably less safe than we should have been due to what I would call a disorganizational mess.
It appeared that none of the security officers had any clue on any procedure, what to do.
They didn't know who was in charge.
It really took a long time to organize themselves and organize some sort of procedure on how to handle things, and in the meantime put us in a lot of jeopardy.
Okay, well... And if you want to question me on anything else, feel free.
Well let me do that here at the end and hopefully we can have you back up a little bit in the days to come because you are and your wife are key eyewitnesses and again it's being confirmed by other people on the plane.
We're going to play the clip after you leave saying this guy was videotaping the whole flight.
They've given multiple interviews.
Very suspicious there.
I've been given a quote here from you being interviewed on a radio show.
I want to find out if this is accurate.
You did tell me that you visited Infowars.com from time to time.
I want all the information to be public, put in the public, to inform the public, and to help law enforcement do whatever they can to solve this crisis.
Eight years later, I am still irritated with 9-11 when I consider it to be a 9-11 cover-up, and I personally have knowledge with this terrorist attack, and I am not going to let anybody cover up what I know.
Kurt Haskell, attorney, is that an accurate quote, and where was that said?
It's an accurate quote, but I don't want to get into any more detail on that because I don't want any kind of smear campaign against myself to discredit this story, which is An entirely separate story.
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Well, he's agreed to come back on he's agreed to come back on with us.
And I just wanted to let you know that if there's any interest of me coming on again to do a Q&A session or tell anything further, I'd be glad to do it at any time.
I just have very limited time today.
I can't do it today, but another time, I'd be more than willing.
Hundreds of these articles in the last two weeks before this.
Battle against Al Qaeda stepped up in Yemen.
Thousands of U.S.
Special Forces there.
Full scale deal going on.
Now, again, the FBI.
I'm not going to say anything that Haskell told me that was off air.
Only two things he asked me not to talk about, and I'm not going to talk about those things he told me.
I'm not going to say anything else he told me.
I'm just going to shut up.
Till he's back on the show.
That's the torture of this job, though, man.
I mean, you get a high-level person over the Department of Cemeteries in New York State.
That's a big department in any state.
And they give you secret documents about how the government's getting ready for a mass flu die-off, and I get this three months before they start the flu hype, and I just say, I don't know if this is really going to happen, but the feds are telling The Bureau of Prisons in New York that there's going to be a massive flu in 2009, 2010.
It's going to kill millions.
Get ready for millions dead in New York.
Then I get an emergency manager from Indiana bordering a Chicago county saying the same thing.
And I've got to have one of the biggest eyewitnesses out there load all this info on me and I can't tell you about it.
I've got an instant headache, just instant headache here.
I'm literally doing hundreds of investigations at once.
I'm not complaining.
And then I gotta watch shniveling establishment people, like this Michael Shermer, 9-11 truthers foiled by 1225 attack.
We're foiled!
Some simplistic thing about Because Al-Qaeda is releasing on Israeli fake intel sites responsibility.
And Intel Center, run by the CIA publicly, puts out fake videos with their logo in the same layer as the grandson of the former head of the ADL, Adam Gadon.
Israeli agents are the head of Al-Qaeda on TV?
The public doesn't know that!
They can verify that in five minutes, they don't want to know the truth.
That is certain pockets of the population.
Oh, look, somebody on a message board calling themselves Al-Qaeda took credit for this.
and And I'm sure the FBI will.
Find some idiots who will carry out terror attacks.
Should we give up all our rights, all our liberties?
I mean, have you read the Homeland Security documents?
Have you read the MIAC documents?
The whole Homeland Security system is for Americans.
Conservatives, libertarians, returning veterans, gun owners, and true anti-war liberals.
I.e.
any independent American.
The whole system's for you.
It surveils you.
It has nothing to do with little brown people.
Do you got that?
The New World Order is worried about the last country they haven't disarmed, that they haven't fully bankrupted and run yet.
They've taken over everywhere else.
They want the U.S.
The big fat engine of tyranny.
Under full control. Continuing here. - Here's time.
Yemen, Al Qaeda's new training ground.
Oh my gosh.
We've got to attack them.
Everything's a hoax.
It's like the health care bill.
Now the Democrats have actually read it.
It cuts everybody's health care and increases taxes.
Gonna pass.
The banker bailout, unlimited trillions, secretly going to banks, not to get the economy going, no one gets in trouble.
Everything's fake.
Everything's a hoax.
Everything's a fraud.
We have a criminal government that's committed so many crimes, why shouldn't they commit a million more?
You've got this guy on a terror watch list allowed on.
You've got the FBI protecting this guy.
You've got the guy's dad going and saying, my son's hooked up with something bad.
You've got this guy living in million-dollar apartments, and he shows up disheveled with some handler.
Witnesses say he looked like he was drugged out of his mind.
Here's some other witnesses from the airplane, on the same show that Mr. and Mrs. Haskell were on, talking about the guy filming the entire flight.
And in her full testimony, that's another witness on with the Haskells.
That's not the Haskells.
In fact, I want to get her on if we can for the feds to tell them to shut up.
In the full interviews they've given on radio stations, Like the radio station source I mentioned earlier, let me be exact about that, 620.
She said, yeah, the whole flight he was taping.
We kept wondering why.
Why aren't you seeing that video on the news?
You're seeing a cop photo after the cops came on when the plane landed.
Everybody's saying, well, that must be the footage with the police arresting him.
No, there weren't a bunch of uniformed Detroit airport police on the plane.
The citizens got him, tied him up, Strip-searched him to make sure he didn't have any more bombs.
And that's a police photo.
Why aren't the police releasing the footage?
Because they haven't computer-morphed it yet.
Why haven't they released the footage of the smart-dressed man at all those airport Video cameras from Amsterdam.
Why haven't they released the footage from the man on the flight?
Or if they don't have it, why didn't the man on the flight give it to him?
Was he the handler of this guy?
Don't worry.
Don't worry, underwear bomber.
I will be here videotaping.
Security brought you on.
You go ahead.
You're doing this.
You're going to be a full agent once you've carried out this drill.
Continue with the drill?
When they come on, you tell them it's part of a drill.
This is how they do it.
And for any of you fools working for the government, if they ever want you to do something you think is illegal during a drill, this is how they do it.
This is how they set people up.
This is how they operate.
This is what they do over and over and over and over again.
Meanwhile, we're not even talking about government takeover of healthcare.
One-fifth of the U.S.
economy.
One-sixth, depending on how you slice it.
What's left of the economy.
Openly written by the insurance companies.
Openly a scam.
On record!
Maybe Skeptics Magazine will write an article about how I'm imagining that.
Maybe it doesn't have $41 million cut for Medicare and Medicaid, even though the bill says it.
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We'll just have someone say, oh, everything's fine.
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Baloney!
Now the enemies come out in the open.
I would guess there's a lot of Africans, a lot of Arabs coming through Amsterdam.
That's a major African Middle Eastern hub into Europe and the rest of the world.
There's a billion Indians, they're everywhere, so I don't know.
But the bigger question is, why aren't we seeing the video from the plane and in the concourse and in the airport out?
And what they'll do, what I predict in the next few weeks, if we make a big enough stink, if not it'll be six months from now, they'll release some side shot.
hundreds of cameras and say, oh, we only caught it from the back.
We don't know who he was.
It'll just be on some sideshow.
Right now that it's the big announcement, it's all about attacking Yemen and all about body scanning you and checkpoints on highways and roads and how the feds have to take over and it's their big announcement and Obama's notified another Nigerian went potty for 19 minutes and, oh, the president's it's all about attacking Yemen and all about body scanning you and checkpoints on He was in the potty?
Another one?
I'll save the people.
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Oh, thank you, Obama.
Right now it's about a smoke screen to cover up the passage of health care coming up next week.
So people don't look what's in the bill.
Or the Democrat revolt.
Or, what, two Democrats stepping down, leaving their parties?
And total revolt from the left against the health care bill because they found out it's not a goody.
You think the bankers are going to rob other people to give you something free?
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Oh Lordy, Well obviously that was some breaking bombshell news from one of the key eyewitnesses of how they let them take their own baggage off to get their operatives off in case something went bad.
How they found somebody else with a bomb.
That was them taking one of their agents out who got caught up in the search.
If it fits, classic M.O.
You know, with the shoe bomber and everybody else security leads them on.
Oh, this is a special person.
It's always some drugged out freak all wild.
That's why they've got to be led on.
Because they're always drugged out or mentally ill.
Literally just, ugh, ugh, you know, being brought onto the plane.
These patsies, man, never end.
Pull up the shoe bomber's image.
I mean, just out of his gourd, couldn't keep a job, couldn't tie his shoelaces.
But he's the ace deadly Al-Qaeda, the reason freedom had to end in the world.
Don't worry, black ski mask anti-terror cop is here to take your farm and ranch and your children.
Oh, sorry, there's no Al-Qaeda, but there is American gun owner.
I mean, look at that moron.
That guy's got about five brain cells he can rub together if he's lucky.
I mean, I've seen cockroaches with more intelligence in their eyes.
A little bit like Sylvester Stallone on the lobotomy.
But I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen.
I just can't handle it anymore.
Gerald Salente's coming up in the retransmission.
I'm out of time for all these callers.
I'm going to try to have more open phones the next few days.
I've got a bunch of other guests.
We'll continue to track all this.
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Now, again, we've got Gerald Salente coming back up, that bombshell guest, Mr. Haskell, with the inside job info.
That was amazing.
Look for articles about that to go viral at PrisonPlanet.com and Infowars.com.
We've got Webster Tarpley coming up, Alan Watt coming up.