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He's the T-Rex of political talk.
Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
alex jones
Joe Berlinger is our guest for the rest of the hour.
He's an award-winning filmmaker, journalist, and photographer.
His films include landmark documentaries like Brother's Keeper, Paradise Lost, The Child Murders at Robin Hood Hills, and Metallica's Some Kind of Monster.
His most recent film, the multi-award-winning Crude, debuted at the 2009 Sundance Film Festival and is scheduled for theatrical release in September.
It is September.
The inside story of the controversial $27 billion Amazon Chernobyl case in Ecuador.
And it goes on, Stephen Holden of the New York Times says, crude, rarely have such conflicts been examined with the depth and power that Joe has engaged in.
So we've got him here with a documentary, crude, amazing film.
We're going to be playing some clips, though there is some profanity in it because it's a documentary, so most of it will just be video in the background while Joe Is talking we'll play the trailer to coming up here on the radio slash TV show people tune in all the time and I get emails Why are you talking about video?
I'm listening to you on this radio station.
This is the 21st century So it's not just a document cam or a video cam like Limbaugh has we got cameras all over the studio It's a TV studio now got document cam video clips Full production crew.
It's great.
You can watch it live if you're a PrisonPlanet.TV member.
So, Joe, it is great to have you on with us, my friend.
joe berlinger
Sure.
It is a pleasure.
I've missed you since we hung out a few years ago.
alex jones
Yeah, for people that don't know about that, and I guess it's probably the first time that you've talked about it or released publicly, that I know of, three point plus million dollar budget, biggest for Discovery Channel ever, you're an award-winning, top-tier documentary maker with your partner, you come out, interview me for several of the episodes, and tell folks what happened with that.
joe berlinger
Well, we had a series for Discovery called I don't even remember what our, oh, Tribes of America was the name of the series, and a woman named Jane Root, who used to run the Discovery Network, loved our work and hired us to do this series about different kind of subcultures in America.
And one of the subcultures we wanted to explore was the world of you and, you know, the clear-eyed kind of news you like to deliver, and we thought that would be an interesting show.
You know, these so-called conspiracy theorists.
And obviously, you know, what you guys think of yourselves.
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I should include myself amongst them.
joe berlinger
And, you know, we did a great episode with you and a couple other people in your community.
You were, of course, the star of the show.
We did a number of other episodes on different kinds of communities.
And at the 12th hour, after $3 million had been spent on this television series, the woman who hired us, who was actually the head of the network, ended up getting fired, replaced by another guy named John Ford, and of course, as is typical in corporate America at these television places, and I guess I'm biting the hand that feeds me, but, you know, all the projects that this woman had greenlit were thrown out the door, and a whole new set of programming was
alex jones
But your project was shot very close to being done.
joe berlinger
That's what, you know, we did an episode on evangelical street preachers.
We did an episode on the New York Diamond community.
We did an episode, actually, your episode was called Alternative Radio.
alex jones
And then one on robotics.
joe berlinger
One on robotics, one on this community in the desert.
It was two years ago, so I've been so involved in the Amazon industry.
alex jones
It was Carnies!
joe berlinger
Yeah, we did one on Carnies, and then we did one on these people living in bunkers in the desert.
That was a great series, and it was 99% shot.
The money had been spent.
We were in the final phase of the post-production.
Your show in particular was fantastic.
Yeah, you were there when I got arrested and they shoved Etienne with his $100,000 camera down for no reason.
and then we went to the premiere of your work in progress of your last movie, and then for 9-11 activities, we followed you around in New York.
It was really a great episode.
alex jones
Yeah, you were there when I got arrested, and they shoved Etienne with his $100,000 camera down for no reason.
I mean, this was intense.
joe berlinger
Yeah, and it was a great episode.
You know, the whole series was this kind of cinema verite exploration of these different groups of people who aren't your traditional kind of citizen.
And, you know, at the 12th hour, the show was cancelled and the stuff, you know, wasn't even aired.
And, you know, I'd be the first one to say if the show stunk, you know, I understand why they didn't air them, but these were high quality documentaries made by, you know, very good documentary makers.
And they just fell victim to the usual thing, you know, like they'd rather waste $3 million worth of production than the new guy airing this stuff.
And, you know, realizing they made a mistake in firing this person because the shows do well.
So we had that and we had another TV series that they just buried called San Quentin Film School.
So these two projects that had originated with With this woman who since moved on and was fired, the new regime just kind of just, you know, jettisoned all of this great work.
alex jones
Yeah, because you really were doing a fair piece.
It'd make us look like angels.
It was what really happened.
joe berlinger
Yeah.
alex jones
They came to you, you said, and said that they were trying to put, you know, would I debate a neocon?
Would I?
And then, even though you were talking with me about, my God, they really are trying to manipulate this, then that wasn't even enough for them.
They just threw the whole thing in the fire.
joe berlinger
Yeah, after, you know, and it's one thing to cancel a show or cancel a series.
You know, at the development stage or at the early stage where a show is not yet shot, but here you have literally three million dollars worth of production.
You'd think they'd at least err at some odd hour just to at least get some economic value out of it.
alex jones
This is like aborting a 17-year-old.
Right when you're about to get him out of the house.
joe berlinger
Exactly, exactly.
So it was very heartbreaking and I was particularly disappointed.
With your episode being cancelled, because I thought that was a lot of fun.
It was very interesting.
I forget, who was the guy?
Rance?
Jeff Rance?
Yeah, yeah, Rance.
He was profiled and another guy was profiled, but you were kind of the star of the episode and the stuff we shot of you in New York getting arrested.
alex jones
Yeah, it was.
Well, I know you're here to talk about Crude.
Tell us first, it's opening now, where people can see it, in what cities, amazing cinematography, really serious stuff.
joe berlinger
Yeah, no, it's a film that kind of changed my life and really opened my eyes up to some fundamental truths.
Shot over a three-year period in the rainforests of Ecuador.
Uh, you know, if you go to our website, www.crewedthemovie.com, you'll see all the places it's playing.
You know, it's a small, you know, platform release, so we're rolling out city by city.
It opens, uh, this week in, well, sorry, next week, September 9th in New York City at the Newark, uh, not the Newark, that's L.A.
It opens at the IFC Center in New York on September 9th.
It opens at the Newark in Los Angeles September 18th.
The Lumiere in San Francisco on September 25th, and then we start adding cities like crazy.
And I know you're based in Austin, so it's coming to the Dobie, you know, the landmark Dobie Theater October 9th.
And hopefully I'm going to come down, so maybe you can come help me do a Q&A or something.
alex jones
Yeah, I'm going to be done with my film, Fall of the Republic, by then and it'll be getting printed up on DVD, so I'll kind of be over the hump.
And I would love, Joe, to come see you again.
And I'm just watching clips of the film, reminding me how well this film is done.
I mean, this looks like film, but it was shot, I guess, in HD?
joe berlinger
Yeah, we use these little HD cameras and, you know, the technology is so good, you get a really nice look.
And actually, for the theatrical release, we ended up transferring it to 35mm, you know, for theaters, and I'm surprised at how great it looked.
It really held up nicely.
You know, there's beautiful light down there that, of course, helped, and that beautiful light kind of, you know, put a spotlight on the disgusting and horrible pollution that is the subject of the film.
alex jones
Had roughly 15% higher wages than us, so most of their industry came down here in the 70s and 80s.
NAFTA and GATT lowered the Mexican standard and the United States standard.
That's clear now.
I mean, most of Michigan looks like a third world war zone.
And now as they continue the free, quote, fair trade, the race to the bottom, Uh, we need to look at what's going on in Ecuador and Mexico, because that's how we're going to be living now, or something closer to it.
And your film investigates that, and you had to worry about kidnappings, you had to have armed guards.
I mean, this was a journey into hearts of darkness, Joe.
So when we come back, let's get into it.
But let's start with the film and some of the adventures, and then some of the backstories, some of the things we won't see in the film.
joe berlinger
Okay, sounds good.
alex jones
Go ahead and start telling us about it.
Oh, I thought you were queuing up for I'm saying we are coming.
We got a few minutes.
Go ahead.
joe berlinger
Okay.
Well, you know, I mean, basically, you know, I went, I'll just talk about how I got started.
You know, I kind of got dragged into this film kicking and screaming, you know, the lawyer on behalf of these 30,000 plaintiffs.
Which are rainforest dwellers, indigenous people, came to me and told me about this pollution and said, you gotta make a film about it.
It sounded preposterous.
I couldn't believe that what he was telling me was true, but I went down and looked at it for myself, and there I saw an area the size of Rhode Island, a 1,700 square mile swath of the Amazon rainforest, completely despoiled through oil production.
You know, for 30 years Texaco drilled oil, and when you drill for oil and the oil comes up out of the ground, you have to separate what's called formation water.
From the marketable crude.
The crude goes off the market and then this water, which is filled with toxins, is supposed to be re-injected back into the well cavity.
Instead, for 30 years, they just pumped it into the rivers and streams that feed the Amazon River.
That also has been the home of these five, well actually six, indigenous tribes.
One of them has since become extinct.
But the five indigenous tribes that are actually part of this lawsuit, this was their backyard.
Um, and there are now skyrocketing rates of cancer, leukemia, uh, childhoods, uh, you know, 15 out of 20 children that are born have these terrible skin rashes.
I mean, it's just unbelievable.
And in addition to releasing this toxic water directly into the rivers and streams that feed the Amazon River, you know, hundreds and hundreds of these giant unlined pits were carved out of the jungle, uh, and a lot of Jo Barlinger, stay there.
alex jones
Let's come back and talk about this on the other side.
The new film is crude.
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We'll be right back.
The film is Crude.
We've been playing some clips for people watching us on the web.
For radio listeners, you can visit the website of the film.
Joe, where's the best place for people to go to find out more about Crude?
joe berlinger
Well, yeah, basically our website, www.crudethemovie.com, and we've got a whole set of Information about the film, clips, the trailer, links to other organizations, how you can see it, how you can get involved.
alex jones
Now, I want to get into what's happening to these native peoples there, but also just the adventure of being down there.
I mean, are you worried about the oil companies coming after you?
They do whatever they want in Latin America.
joe berlinger
Yeah, well, when I was down there, I was very nervous.
You know, I did not make my presence known.
Luckily, there were a lot of NGOs.
Uh, like Amazon Watch monitoring the trial to make sure it took place.
Um, and so I just kind of, you know, had small cameras and a very small crew and did a lot of the shooting myself.
So I just kind of slipped in with the local media and the local, not the local, but the NGO people.
Uh, and I did not go and knock on doors and get interviews.
I was just there to film the trial because, you know, First of all, we were a mile and a half from the Colombian border at times, where the FARC in that particular part of Colombia and Ecuador, where the FARC, the guerrilla, anti-government guerrillas, are very active and they, you know, kidnap Americans for ransom.
So, that worried me.
There was also an area where the drug runners were very active.
So, you know, when I checked into my hotel, in quotation marks, my hotel in the little, this little jungle wild west town, Uh, you know, on my first trip, I mean, I literally, uh, stepped through a crime scene because somebody had just been murdered in front of the hotel, so I was a little nervous.
Um, you know, it was far less cushy than my previous assignment of hanging out with a heavy metal band for three years on the Metallica film.
You know, it was also a malaria zone, so we were covered head-to-toe with jungle gear and slathering ourselves up with industrial-strength beet spray to keep the mosquitoes at bay.
alex jones
Sounds hellish!
joe berlinger
It was terrible, actually.
I mean, it was 120-degree equatorial heat, you know, because you're right at the equator.
And the worst thing is you're standing in front of these massive pollution sites, these giant jungle You know, cut out of the jungle, filled with tar and petroleum.
And holding a camera in this kind of heat, you know, by the end of the day, I had a massive headache.
You know, it's funny, the first trip down, my doctor advised me to take Malarone, which is an anti-malarial preventative medication because, you know, the CDC indicates that this is a malaria zone, and that stuff may be psychotic.
alex jones
Man, I had my first or second night in this hotel I felt like I was having my Martin Sheen apocalypse now hotel room moment because the stuff was making me Well, by the way, one squadron, as I'm sure you know, of Delta Force came home from Afghanistan on that.
Yeah.
And three groups killed their families.
The other guy killed himself.
So, yeah, that stuff's got to be taken off the market.
joe berlinger
Oh, without question.
You know, I mean, it made me really queasy.
Really, I was literally grabbing my bed and just praying that I'd get through the night.
So, subsequent shoots, I stopped taking the Valoran and just wore heavy clothing.
I covered myself up with the best bug spray money could buy.
So it was not an easy assignment.
And then you add to it the emotional toll.
I mean, you're talking to native people whose lives have been destroyed.
This was a cultural genocide.
And they've been poisoned.
There's no drinking water anywhere.
You walk around these villages.
I mean, the thing that really made me want to make the film is on my first scouting mission, I got out of the canoe.
You know, we've taken a canoe down to one of these, uh, to the Kofan people, you know, you know, proud people who have lived there for millennia who live off the water, uh, use the water to bathe, to drink.
You know, in this country, we take it for granted.
You go to the tap, there's water, but this is a place where the water has been completely polluted, and these are people who, you know, use the water for everything, transportation, bathing, drinking.
Um, and I got out of the canoe, and these people, you know, deep in the heart of the Amazon rainforest were, you know, preparing a meal using, Industrial tuna, you know, the kind of canned tuna that you might get at Costco or something, you know, or a big restaurant supply company, you know, from another part of the world, deep in the heart of the rainforest, you know, these people were eating tuna because the fish in the river were either dead or deformed.
And that kind of just, you know, was a real wake-up call for me about how, you know, I'm not smart enough to figure out whether Chevron should win or lose this trial, you know, as you'll see in the film.
They've wrapped themselves up in enough legal arguments that who knows, you know, who knows if the justice system can prevail.
But from a moral standpoint, it's just astounding that they would go into the backyard of these people and foul the place up.
And you walk around these indigenous villages and what breaks your heart is, you know... Joe, stay there, stay there.
alex jones
Tell us about that when we get back.
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Okay, going back to Joe Berlinger and the film Crude, the real price of oil.
We're...
Again, I want to get off the oil system.
It's been great for us, but it has all this toxic waste associated with it.
The greenhouse gas carbon tax thing is a red herring, in my researched opinion, to put a tax on carbon dioxide.
Instead of going after, that's why oil companies are now behind the greenhouse gas.
It gets them off the hook.
For the cracking of the oil, the refining of the oil, the extracting it.
Joe, you went down to Ecuador 25 times.
I mean, that is just yeoman's work in this malaria-infested equatorial region.
Third world with, you know, kidnappings and police state.
Instead of me asking questions, you've got the floor.
Let's talk more about why there's toxic waste, what this toxic waste is, what's happening down there, where all this is going.
joe berlinger
Yeah, and let me just say, you know, I agree that we should be thinking about, more than thinking about, moving towards alternative energy for a host of reasons.
But this film is not an anti-oil film.
It's an anti-corporate irresponsibility film.
I mean, I'd be a hypocrite right now to be making an anti-oil film because, you know, I fly to film festivals on airplanes.
I heat my house with oil, I drive a car, you know, we're all kind of stuck in this system until it changes.
But it's an anti-corporate irresponsibility film.
You know, there's responsible ways of drilling for oil and irresponsible ways of drilling for oil.
And what happened in the jungle down there, you know, Texaco, we use Texaco and Chevron interchangeably just to explain to the audience, you know, the operator and the perpetrator of What I'm talking about is the Texaco Petroleum Company, which was purchased by Chevron.
They merged in 2001, so with that, Chevron inherited the lawsuit.
So sometimes I say Texaco, sometimes I say Chevron.
They're the same at this point.
But Texaco discovered oil in the 60s, down in this Amazon rainforest, this pristine jungle environment.
They say that one of the few places on Earth that survived the last Ice Age was the Ecuadorian part of the Amazon Rainforest.
You know, most of the Amazon Rainforest is in Brazil, but the headwaters of the Amazon begin in Ecuador and the Ecuadorian part of the rainforest, they say, is one of the few places on Earth that survived the last ice age.
And therefore, that is the reason it has such incredible, you know, biodiversity.
Over a quarter of the world's species are in this little part of the rainforest.
alex jones
It's super ancient.
For those that don't know, the Ice Age hasn't run over it, killing whatever was originally there or displacing it.
This is one of the most ancient places on Earth where you have a continually developing system, is what you're saying.
joe berlinger
Exactly.
And of course, it barely has survived now the last 40 years of oil production because of the way in which it was done.
You know, Texaco discovered oil, came in, they set up a consortium with the government.
You know, the government is not blameless in this situation.
But Texaco was, you know, created and operated this system that, as the plaintiffs say, was designed to pollute.
Basically, there were three levels of pollution down there.
The first and most insidious level of pollution is that when the crude oil comes up from the ground, where it's been hanging out beneath your surface for millions of years, it's mixed with water.
That water is called formation water because it's been mixed in with the crude for eons.
There's a process of separation where the marketable crude is separated out from the water.
The marketable crude goes by pipeline to a port and it's sent off so that we can go get it refined and have lots of gasoline in this country.
The water is supposed to be the standard operating practice of the day, although Chevron will claim otherwise, the standard operating practice of the day is to re-inject that water into dormant wells so that it goes back into the earth out of way below the water table, that's an expensive process, relatively speaking.
So the plant is...
alex jones
Yeah, but I mean, here in Texas, a lot of oil industry, if any of that gets into the water table, it's a huge lawsuit, huge event.
joe berlinger
Absolutely.
If this stuff happened in the United States, these people would be in jail, is my opinion.
Chevron disputes that and claims otherwise.
One of the problems with this case is that the court has been overwhelmed with paper and disinformation and misinformation.
alex jones
Well, like you said, you're not a petroleum geologist, I'm not a chemist, but watching the film, we've been playing clips of it here in the background, you're by a river and you see the oil and the gasoline, the shininess, where the people are bathing and drinking, it's coming by, you see the black oil pouring out into the water, you see, I mean, that they clearly Yeah, so let me just so the listeners understand.
joe berlinger
So the oil, you know, the water and the oil are separated in this separation process.
Oil goes off to market.
The water is supposed to be re-injected into these Into these wells.
Instead, it was literally pumped into the rivers and streams that feed the Amazon River that are also the home to, it used to be six indigenous tribes, now it's five indigenous tribes.
And these people just drank the water and didn't know better.
In fact, we heard stories, I can't verify it though it was not included in the film, but we heard stories that actually the early oil development people actually told the locals that that formation water was you know, had vitamins and minerals and was good for you.
You know, these people didn't know better.
They trusted the, you know, they had never had contact with white people until about 40 years ago.
You know, and again, I'm not, I just want to say.
alex jones
Well, hell, they tell us that sodium fluoride, that's a catch-all for hundreds of chemicals.
We've got a tour of the Austin facility.
It's hundreds of chemicals they put from the byproduct of fertilizer manufacturing in our water, so they tell us it's minerals.
joe berlinger
That's true, that's true.
So one level of pollution was just the direct piping for three decades of formation water.
The other level of pollution is that they carved out of the jungle Unlined, and they will claim it's lined because the jungle clay is not permeable.
You know, we saw evidence to the contrary.
They carve these giant unlined pits.
When a well is first dug, the initial stuff that comes up is just full of, it's just kind of a toxic soup of stuff that gets dumped into these pits.
And then whenever they do maintenance on the wells, more stuff gets dumped into these pits.
And these pits are, you know, it's not unusual to have pits, but they're supposed to be cleaned up.
And these pits were just left in the jungle.
And what was a little unusual in the jungle version of these pits is that because it rains so much in the Amazon rainforest, that's why it's called the rainforest, these pits would overflow from rain.
So they installed these gooseneck pipes.
Uh, that allowed the rainwater, which then had been mixing with the petroleum, to, uh, you know, leach into the, um, well, to go right into the rivers and streams.
And then the third level of pollution, which is not their fault, but, uh, because this is standard, uh, in oil production.
That's one of the reasons oil production is just a messy business.
Uh, the other byproduct of, um, of oil production is natural gas.
If it's not brought to market often in these kinds of regions where it's difficult to bring it to the market, they just burn it off.
That's why at oil production facilities you see a flare going off.
So imagine in the jungle thousands of these flares adding to a black rain environment to an already assaulted environment that was once pristine.
I mean, it just breaks your heart walking around these villages, you know, these Amazonian Indians who, you know, Had a very nice lifestyle, you know, in harmony with nature for millennia.
You know, we forced these people into a quasi-Western lifestyle by virtue of the fact that we take away their traditional means of sustenance.
You know, the animal stocks are depleted from the pollution, the fish in the river are dead.
alex jones
Well, I think that's the key here, is that you're saying they know now.
Because if people were putting an act on, they would still eat the fish, but you're saying they won't eat the fish now.
joe berlinger
Well, they have to.
That's the sad thing.
These people are looking into mothers' eyes knowing that they're giving their children poisonous water because there's no other water.
Nobody has come to the aid of these people.
Whatever fish they can get, they eat it.
alex jones
So it's a primitive area with no infrastructure, and they're just drinking the water right out of...
The streams and rivers that are just a mile or less away from all these toxic chemicals being dumped.
I mean, I know enough about the oil industry just growing up in and around here in Texas that they're not following any of the same procedures or rules in Ecuador.
Just looking what's on the video, this is just outrageous.
joe berlinger
Yeah, well, Chevron claims that they were following the standards of the day and that they cleaned up their mess and that any mess is due to the fact that they turned over the operation to the state-run oil company called PetroEcuador.
And it is true that PetroEcuador, because, you know, Texaco left in 92.
They didn't get a renewal of their concession from the government.
They split.
They turned this polluting system over to the state-run oil company called PetroEcuador.
And one of the complicating factors of the case and one of Chevron's, you know, legal points is that PetroEcuador continued to pollute for a number of well, until today.
They've gotten their act cleaned up a little bit.
You know, so Chevron points the finger at Petro-Ecuador, but, you know, that is kind of obfuscating the original issue, which is in 93, this lawsuit was originally filed in the United States.
Shortly after their departure because everyone saw that there was a polluted mess there Well, I want to be clear.
alex jones
On this show, I exposed the whole greenhouse gas tax system written up by Enron is clearly a fraud.
But then people get confused and say, well, wait, you're not for the environment.
No, I don't want my children drinking toxic waste in the water, breathing poisons in the air, eating GMO foods.
And the evidence is all of that is bad and hurting all of us.
And this is something clearly in the film And the stories that we see around the world where if we demand change we will get it and it looks like that the pressure you and others have put on them is starting to have some effect now that the state-owned oil monopoly is starting to clean up its act because
I mean, he goes back to The Jungle, you know, the book written over a hundred years ago about people falling into the sausage machines and the coal plants not having scrubbers and, you know, all the toxic waste here.
There is good things about environmentalism we've done that we need to do and continue to do.
The problem is you have all these opportunists and NGOs coupling their agenda of just getting control of the economy to this So it's kind of like getting the mafia for help and you end up with something even worse.
So it's a very sophisticated situation from my point of view.
But, Joe, I know that you have been offered top documentaries, TV shows, and you have done a lot of those.
And I know traveling down there 25 times and spending year after year, several years on this film, that I know you're just hoping to even get your investment back, is a great social investment you've made.
And I really respect you for what you've done because this is a film that most people wouldn't have the courage on multiple fronts, being down there in that hellhole and also dealing with the oil companies.
So I really do commend your courage.
joe berlinger
You know, I went down on this initial scouting mission and I just was embarrassed to be an American if it were true that an American company, whether it was legal or not, whether they protected themselves through legal, you know, releases, as they claim, and all sorts of whatever things that are beyond my training.
You know, legal or not, to me, what has been done in this region, I feel, is morally bankrupt.
You know, when I went back to my nice home in New York and, you know, tucked my two children in in their separate bedrooms and turned on my tap and had a, you know, drink of relatively clean water, I just felt like, how could I turn my back on these people who have been screwed over, you know, by the system in ways that people can't even believe unless you go down there and look at the place?
alex jones
You had to have armed guards while you were there because of the kidnapping or because of threats?
Why?
joe berlinger
Well, we didn't really have armed guards.
I don't know where maybe that's where you got that from.
alex jones
Well, I was watching some of the video.
I mean, you had a bodyguard with you, correct?
joe berlinger
Oh, no, those were soldiers.
I mean, there were lots of soldiers there.
I mean, I didn't have armed guards.
I didn't want to call attention.
I mean, we were very nervous and there were some occasions where we were followed and our hotel room was ransacked on one occasion.
Um, you know, I can't tell you if that was local punks, local drug runners, local affiliates of the oil company.
I mean, I tried to fly way below the radar and I felt like if I came with armed guards... Okay, I must have gotten confused.
You know, there was a big military presence there.
alex jones
Maybe you were talking about getting armed guards a couple years ago when I was talking to you.
joe berlinger
Oh, that's possible.
That's possible.
But I decided not to call attention to myself because I just wanted to get this thing in the can under the radar and then deal, you know, deal with it later.
alex jones
Absolutely.
Chicanery is the use of tricks to deceive someone, usually to extract money from them.
I think that's a good definition.
I want to come back and play the trailer, audio for the radio listeners, video for prisonplanet.tv viewers right now, of the film, and it's up on the site, crudethemovie.com.
joe berlinger
Now the only problem with playing the audio for listeners is they're not going to see the Spanish translation.
alex jones
That's okay, we have a big Spanish audience.
It's only two minutes long.
We'll play it for folks.
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You can read all the amazing reviews.
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You know, I said I'd play the trailer, but he's right.
A lot of it's in Spanish and subtitles.
So just go to the site and you can see it right there, them ladling the...
Toxic chemicals right out of the and then burning down the rainforest and I I guess he also had a lot of oil fires down there to Joe Legal not legal.
joe berlinger
I'm not smart enough to figure out all that stuff, but it's certainly immoral I think to go into a region like that and and just to spoil it I mean I mean we also heard horrible stories of oil workers raping the local women stuff that I didn't include in the film because we couldn't verify it but even if even if Even if it's a quarter true, I mean, some of the stories I heard, you know, made the hairs stand up.
alex jones
Basically a Wild West free-for-all.
joe berlinger
A Wild West, with this colonial, arrogant prejudice towards indigenous people.
That's really why I made the film.
You know, we were talking between the break that, you know, I did find some money for this, but a lot of it was paid for by myself.
And initially I was just paying for it myself because, uh, I just was angry and upset, and I felt guilty for being white.
For 600 years, white people have treated indigenous people horribly, including how we started this own country.
We all know somewhere in the back of our heads that the Denny's over there used to be a Cherokee village, like a real Cherokee village, not something at Disneyland.
I used to kind of just think about it from time to time and think, oh well that's in the distant past, but the reality is multinational behavior in these third world countries is just the modern day continuation of that.
alex jones
But Joe, I agree with you, but I think it's more than just white.
Any powerful empire, whether it was the Japanese or whoever, or the Aztecs, they end up abusing the weaker group.
And this multinational system is doing bad things to us in America, whether we're black, white, Hispanic, Asian.
But certainly, if we allow this to happen down there, it could certainly go on here.
And that's why I salute you for making the film crude, and I'll definitely try to come Uh, to the event when you are here in Austin.
In fact, I had that little card here in my hand.
When is it coming to Austin?
joe berlinger
It's October 9th at the Dobie.
alex jones
October 9th at the Dobie, and it's running for a few weeks, I think, here in Austin, yes.
joe berlinger
Unfortunately, just for a week.
You know, this is the type of movie that unless people show up that first weekend, it's gonna die a quick death, you know?
It's not, uh... You know, people like entertainment, so hopefully people will show up.
alex jones
So two weeks in New York, but a week in the other cities.
Folks, you definitely need to get out to sea crude.
Joe, set it up.
Come in studio when you're here in town.
Check out the new setup.
And I just appreciate the great work that you're doing.
You are a true humanitarian, and thanks to people like you, this planet may have a chance.
joe berlinger
Well, I thank you, and you keep up the good work.
You're obviously doing incredibly important work.
The truth will out, that's my opinion.
Eventually.
alex jones
Absolutely.
Okay, well it premieres next week in New York City, September 9th.
Joe, take care of yourself.
joe berlinger
Alright, thank you.
Take care, Alex.
Good to talk to you.
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Good talking to you.
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He attended the LSU School of Medicine in New Orleans and completed his general surgical internship as a neurosurgical residency at the Medical University of South Carolina at Charleston, South Carolina.
During his residency, he ran the Neuro Neurology program for one year and did a fellowship in neurosurgery after his residency for the last 25 years.
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Dr. Blalock has written and illustrated three books.
The first book was on the subject of excitotoxins, the taste that kills, and it just goes on and on.
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And he's here today to talk about...
The flu first, the chemicals they put in there to create an autoimmune response, why the government's having to admit now NRATs causing neurodegenerative diseases, causing all sorts of joint problems, early onset of just all sorts of problems.
Dr. Blaylock's going to go over that today, but also then What's happening with the excitotoxins?
What's happening with MSG?
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And why he believes this is going on.
So, Dr. Russell Blaylock with us today to go over this in great detail and take your phone calls.
Dr. Blaylock, thanks for being here.
Do we have Dr. Blaylock there?
We may have lost his line.
We've been having some phone systems go up and down today.
So we will get the network to call him if we need to.
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This is important.
I mean, this is really going on.
And now we have the medical report.
That has been put out, internally leaked out of the CDC here in the U.S.
and the British medical system in England, that it's causing these degenerative brain diseases.
Dr. Blaylock, sorry we lost you there.
I was bringing up, we're about to go to break, but I was bringing up these internal reports have now been leaked, saying exactly what you've said years ago, that these vaccines are causing all sorts of brain disorders.
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dr russel blaylock
Well, you know, what we're looking at now, because of the new discovery of stealth viruses, this could be much greater than we know, because a lot of these neurological disorders are more immediate.
But the stealth viruses, these hidden viruses in vaccines, could cause neurological disease decades later, which really makes it difficult to make that positive connection.
And that's sort of what they depend on, is that the connections are hard to make.
We went through that.
with the excited toxins in food because of the difference in the time of exposure and the appearance of a neurologic disorder.
But we have much better evidence now than we had before.
alex jones
Okay, we're going to go to break.
Long segment coming up.
I'm going to try to just sit back and have you go through not just the viruses and RNA and these vaccines, but what is the mercury doing?
What is the squalene doing?
Why do we see massive increases in all sorts of different diseases in the literature being associated with the vaccines?
We're talking to Russell Blaylock.
Please stay with us.
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Okay, Dr. Russell Blaylock has just joined us for stations that just tuned in or listeners.
It's BlaylockReport.com.
He is a brain surgeon, neurologist, For decades speaking out against vaccines causing degenerative diseases.
I had Dr. Horowitz on earlier whose mother was killed by this Gilean Bernay or Moray, where the body has an autoimmune response and starts eating the nerves.
The media is admitting that it can kill you.
The media is now having to admit that Gardasil is killing people.
Dr. Blaylock, why do the vaccines attack the nerves in the body?
dr russel blaylock
Well, just the vaccine itself, the trick that they're always, or the problem they're always dealing with is trying to make the body react to the agent that you want to immunize against, for instance, flu.
to improve.
Trying to get the body to react intensely enough to give you immunity for a long period of time.
Well, the whole basis of vaccination is unphysiological.
Almost all the infections that enter the body go through either the nasal passages Or the GI tract.
Well, that's where 80% of your immune system exists, and it's designed to have the first exposure to these agents.
And it's all carefully coordinated.
Well, what you're doing with a vaccine, you're bypassing that, injecting it into deep muscle tissue, which is completely an abnormal entrance for this organism.
And so you get an abnormal immune reaction, particularly in children, small babies.
You get a very abnormal reaction.
And that's been well documented in the scientific literature.
But in order to try to make your body react, they add what's called immune adjuvants to it.
Now, these are various chemicals that cause your body to have a very intense immune reaction.
The only adjuvant approved in the United States is aluminum compounds, primarily alum.
They put that in there to make your immune system react and to cause the immune system to interact with the agent itself.
For instance, measles, mumps, Ebola, whatever.
The problem that we have is many-fold.
The aluminum not only produces an abnormal, intense immune reaction that's prolonged, but the aluminum itself diffuses out into the body, including the brain.
And accumulates, and it stays there for a lifetime.
So each time you get a vaccination, you're getting a dose of aluminum.
Now, the proof of that was done by a study in which they put a radioactive tag on the aluminum that was then a vaccine that's given to people.
And they injected it and traced it to see where it would go.
And they found out it disseminated all over the body, but also the brain.
Well, that was a single vaccine.
Today, children are getting about 40-some-odd vaccines before they start school.
Well, that's at least 35, 36 vaccines with aluminum in it.
So they're getting 36 times the amount of aluminum that was in that study, and all of that goes to the brain.
Over a lifetime, they're talking about giving people as many as 200, 250 vaccines.
alex jones
Sir, is that why, just interrupting Dr. Blaylock, is that why I see the studies where you get a doubling or a tripling, depending on what study I look at, on people above 60 that get three or more flu shots of Alzheimer's?
dr russel blaylock
Well, yeah.
Yeah, because not only does, for instance, the flu vaccine, not only will it contain the aluminum, but it also contains a full dose of mercury.
And we know that mercury and aluminum interact in the brain and produce a rather intense, destructive reaction.
And that the aluminum and mercury stay in the brain for decades, if not a lifetime.
Very difficult to remove.
And that while it's in the brain, it changes into a much more toxic form of mercury, the ionic mercury.
All of this has been proven in the neuroscience literature.
The problem is that people giving the vaccine That is your family doctor, your internist, your pediatrician.
They're not aware of any of this literature.
They don't read these things.
They just read a pamphlet that comes from the CDC or from their specialty.
alex jones
Yeah, that's what's crazy is that I can be at a family event talking to somebody in my family who's a pediatrician, and I'll go, well, I read the studies put out by a major university where it increases Alzheimer's to take the vaccines, And I have this study that Gardasil is killing people.
And I have this study that in all the rat species they give vaccines, they see massive increases in really debilitating arthritis.
And that these chemicals that are causing the autoimmune response are burning out all these different.
And they're like, well, you're not a doctor.
And I'm like, I'm not a doctor.
I'm saying the doctors are saying this.
And they look at me like I'm crazy.
dr russel blaylock
Right.
Well, you know, the first thing you have to realize is that when physicians go to medical school, when I went to medical school, there was a...
Virtually no instructions on vaccines.
You took a two-week immunology course.
You know, they're pretty intense, but it was just two weeks long.
And that was your exposure to immunology.
You hardly had any time to learn about the intricacies of vaccines.
I doubt that there's much more instruction today.
You can learn a lot about the mechanism of immune reaction, but you're not taught about vaccines specifically.
So, physicians generally don't know a lot about it, and they're not going to the scientific literature researching these things, looking at these things.
And the vast majority of physicians know absolutely nothing about neuroscience.
And so, when you start talking about microglia being activated in excitotoxic immune reactions in the brain, They really don't know what you're talking about.
You know, that's not their specialty.
alex jones
Well, sir, I'm not a doctor, but I know if I eat a big bag of Doritos with MSG in it, I get a headache an hour later.
And before I ever heard this stuff was bad, by the time I was a teenager, I started avoiding MSG.
I didn't even know what MSG was.
I just knew, don't eat Chinese food, don't eat Doritos.
dr russel blaylock
Well, you and millions of others made that observation, while the physicians were denying it.
And for decades, all the big journals, New England Journal of Medicine, was denying there was any such thing as the Chinese restaurant syndrome.
Well, now it's proven beyond all doubt, and we know that these exposures produce certain destructions of brain connections, and the exact mechanism of what it does.
For decades, they denied that monosodium glutamate entered the brain.
Well, now we have absolutely proof it does enter the brain and produces these changes, particularly in the young during the most intense brain formation.
Well, one of the effects of repeated intense vaccination is that it activates these cells in the brain that release glutamate at high concentrations, producing the same effect, but even worse because there's an interaction of the immune reaction in the brain with the excite of toxicity That's something that I coined the term immunoxidative toxicity, which is now in the medical literature.
And this is a major mechanism for most of your neurodegenerative diseases like Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, Lou Gehrig, Guillain-Barre, and all of these things that we're now hearing about.
Well, the interesting thing is the number of immunologic autoimmune diseases has increased, virtually exploded, The immunologists are all in a quandary trying to figure out why.
What has happened in the last 30 years that's triggered this incredible increase in every type of autoimmune disease, particularly those affecting the brain?
Well, they've toyed with environmental factors.
They say, well, there must be chemicals in the air or exposure to nanoparticles of diesel fuel.
Everything, but the most obvious, which is vaccines.
The number of vaccines in the last 30 years has increased just astronomically.
alex jones
Because they can't point the finger back at... I mean, you look at these medical journals and reports, half the ads are drug ads and vaccine ads.
But as this is ravaging their own families... Well, I know you're a brain scientist, a brain surgeon, a neurologist, but Why is it linked to the diabetes in the literature?
Why is it linked, I mean, conclusively from what I've seen in other medical doctors we've had on, to, you know, teenagers and young people getting really serious disorders of the joints and the arthritis.
I mean, how is it doing that?
dr russel blaylock
Well, it's the same autoimmune type reaction.
Rather than the brain, it's attacking the cartilage in the joints.
And it's attacking the Beta cells in the pancreas producing diabetes and an autoimmune reaction in the lungs producing asthma.
So all of these different diseases we know that are linked to these abnormal immune reactions are being connected to this immunization program in the countries that have periodically outlawed certain vaccines to the incidence of type 1 diabetes.
Uh, asthma has fallen precipitously.
Uh, so we have very good circumstantial evidence of the connection to the vaccine policy.
The problem is, as you say, they're advertising in all the medical journals.
They contribute huge amounts of money for medical education and support of medical schools.
Uh, they wine and dine residents and interns.
I'm talking about pharmaceuticals and coffee makers.
Uh, so there's so much financial influence.
and financial influence throughout the media because of their heavy advertising on all the media, that you can't get this story out despite the fact you have overwhelming, hard scientific evidence of this happening.
It's just like vaccine contamination.
That is so well demonstrated, yet we just can't get that story out except through programs like yours, which is telling the people from the scientists and the scientific studies what we're seeing.
Uh, virtually every vaccine is contaminated.
And the scary thing is contaminated with agents that can produce cancer and neurological diseases, uh, as, as long as two or three decades after and even be transmitted to your offspring.
alex jones
All right, doctor, stay there.
That's incredible information.
Medical doctor, literally trailblazed many of the modern medical terms being used.
We'll be right back.
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We're going to continue discussing what Dr. Blalock is documenting here.
What the vaccines, what the excitotoxins that are in our foods are doing.
What's in our water, what the fluoride's doing, and then why he believes they're doing it.
He has massive evidence about the eugenics.
And I just really appreciate Dr. Blalock spending time with us.
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available and a special report you can sign up for uh i mean this guy's the real deal and yeah again i was reading stuff he wrote 10 15 years ago as he was saying is now in the major medical journals the terms he invented dr blaylock you were starting this is a short segment long one coming up to get into the contamination of vaccines not just what they're putting in there that you and others have proven is very bad and causing autoimmune responses and toxicity and other problems
but what happens in the manufacturing of it and that a lot of these vaccines are grown on uh fetal retinas and caterpillar eggs and all sorts of other weird stuff I Well, yeah.
dr russel blaylock
You know, in order to grow a virus, you have to have living tissue.
The classic tissue was monkey kidney tissue, rhesus monkey was the beginning.
And then they used the African green monkey, and now they use other type cells.
But all of these cells, if they're living, they're contaminated with other organisms.
And they have inserted in their DNA carcinogenic viruses.
They have mycoplasma.
And a number of studies in which they took just vials of vaccines used for humans found contamination rate varying between 30% and 60% for well-recognized organisms.
You have to realize that these kidney cells are contaminated with thousands of viruses, many of which have never been identified.
So unless you're looking for a specific virus, you're not going to find it.
We know that some of these viruses take a long time to culture out.
You have to culture them for months to get this virus out.
And one of the more recently recognized things is the stealth virus, which cannot be determined by the usual detection mechanism.
It takes a very complicated process to make these viruses show themselves.
But the stealth viruses are being connected very strongly with cancer, neurodegenerative diseases, Uh, and a number of diseases, uh, that can come on, uh, decades after being exposed to them, uh, through the vaccine.
Uh, so that the potential, uh, of serious disease associated with vaccines is just enormous.
Now, they have conferences on this all the time, but most of the conferences are closed door.
Uh, they, they don't invite the media.
They never release the results of this to the media.
Sometimes you'll see it in the science magazines, for instance, like Science or Nature.
And one conference I read about said that they admitted that most of the vaccines were contaminated with DNA fragments and RNA fragments from viruses of various sorts.
And they asked the virologist, well, do you think this is a danger to humans that you're injecting this?
And they said, well, we don't really know.
We hope not.
But, you know, the scientific studies of DNA fragments show that they're inserted in the human genome.
And so you can have a cancer-causing gene inserted into your gene that's passed on to your children.
alex jones
In fact, in fact, you wrote about this.
I remember interviewing you five, six years ago.
You were talking about it.
Two days ago, the BBC admitted that these big study shows suddenly were mutating faster and that scientists don't know why when the answer's right in front of them.
And if you pass Sure, and if you're injecting a mycoplasma, for instance, well that mycoplasma is going to grow throughout the body and it's an intracellular organism.
any mother knows puncture wounds are dangerous, much less injecting stuff grown on dead fetuses or dead monkeys. - Sure, and if you're injecting a mycoplasma, for instance, well, that mycoplasma is gonna grow throughout the body and it's an intracellular that mycoplasma is gonna grow throughout the body and it's an Very, very difficult to cure a mycoplasma infection.
dr russel blaylock
And we know that mycoplasma is associated with cancer, a number of cancers.
So to inject these contaminated viruses and mycoplasma into people is just terrifying to me.
To me, that's one of the most terrifying aspects of these vaccines is that they know they're contaminated with multiple agents, and they continue to vaccinate people just like they did with the ST40 with the polio virus.
alex jones
Let's talk about that when we come back, Dr. Blaylock, and then also some of the other things in our food and water and the great research you've done on that and then other areas that you think are important to get into.
I also want to ask you what it was like when you awakened to this in your practice as a neurologist and as a brain surgeon.
We'll be right back with Dr. Russell Blaylock.
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Dr. Blaylock, you got interrupted by the break.
You were trying to bring up the fact that they know this is in the vaccines, the contamination, but they continue to just go along with it.
And as we see all the different diseases and autoimmune problems and toxicity being generated by this, we then see a compounding with the Aspartame in thousands of products, the MSG under new names in almost everything I try to buy at the store.
I mean, it's ridiculous.
I know instantly, when I have ingested MSG, I feel within a few minutes or nearly instantly, The fluoride they're putting in the water, can you break down some of the things that are in our environment, and then from your research, why this is happening?
dr russel blaylock
Well, the fluoride for instance, it's interesting that there's such compelling evidence that fluoride added to water does not reduce cavities at all.
And even the American Dental Association has admitted that.
So you have to ask yourself, well, if it doesn't reduce cavities, what's the purpose of it?
Their flimsy excuse was, well, as the water flows over your teeth, it may topically strengthen your teeth.
Well, of course, that's silly nonsense that a fourth grader would see through.
So there's no justification, but we do know, and the national research Institute did a very comprehensive study confirming what all the opponents of fluoridation have shown, and that is that fluoride is a powerful accumulative poison, meaning that it accumulates in the body and can stay there for a lifetime.
It destroys bones, increases fractures, osteoporosis.
It accumulates in the brain, combines with the aluminum, produces a very neurotoxic fluoraluminum compound.
All of this is known, so your anacondria is so well a bit, it doesn't even attain its objective, that is, reducing cavities, and everybody admits that, and it has all of these toxic effects.
It even increases the budding of flu virus, that is, the spread of flu virus in your body.
What is the purpose?
What are you putting it in the water for?
The government sent its agents to little small townships that vote not to fluoridate their water.
Why do they use the expense to send government agents from Washington, D.C.
to pressure these people to vote it back in and use government granting to entice them to put fluoride back in the water?
What's the purpose?
We don't have hard evidence, but we know fluoride has a definite behavioral effect on the brain.
It can produce an apathy-like syndrome.
It can affect the ability to think clearly.
So, is it a financial deal they have with the manufacturers of aluminum and the manufacturers of fertilizers to get rid of this waste product?
What exactly is it?
Use your imagination, but we know one thing, it has absolutely nothing to do with dental health.
The MSG in the food, the research now is so compelling, that it affects the formation and development of the brain.
That it significantly can accelerate a number of neurodegenerative diseases like Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, ALS, migraine, headaches, A number of things, particularly behavioral changes in children, anger, violence.
It's strongly connected to depression, particularly pathologic severe depression.
So now that we know all these things and our neuroscience are connected to glutamate, why is the food filled with a glutamate additive that we know can trigger these conditions, including suicide?
And that there's an interaction between fluoride and glutamate.
There's an interaction between fluoride, aluminum, glutamate, and vaccination.
That we know if you vaccinate an animal and expose them, for instance, to mercury-aluminum, it dramatically increases the toxicity of those two elements.
So with all this abundant, hard neuroscience showing these interacting toxicities, Why are the so-called protectors of the public, the EPA and the FDA, not getting these agents out of our food and halting this destructive and idiotic fluoridation water campaign?
Well, they're even talking about making it a federal law that every water system in America must be fluoridated.
alex jones
Exactly.
Now that the American people and the people of the world are fighting back and having it removed and they admit it doubles the chances of males, adolescent males, to get bone cancer.
They just admit that.
I've had the scientist that leads the EPA union on and 90 plus percent of their scientists signed a letter saying please take it out because And we've gotten a tour of the Austin water supply and the people working there agree with us.
They said, yeah, we're told by the city to do this.
We pay millions a year for it.
And all it is is the toxic waste left over from fertilizer manufacturing.
They mine the limestone and then remove the chemicals they want and then leave the toxic waste.
And it's over 100 chemicals they put in our water under the name fluoride.
That's just a... It's so insane, though, That the average person says there must be a reason for it, even though the American Dental Association now says kids shouldn't brush their teeth with fluoride toothpaste because it gives them dental fluorosis and makes the teeth shatter.
My dad's a dentist.
He now understands that, but if people want fluoride, he'll still give it to them.
But, I mean, it's just amazing that this is going on, and we know from the literature that this is part of eugenics.
dr russel blaylock
Well, we know that fluoride has a powerful effect on the reproductive system of both males and females and produces infertility and reduced fertility.
We know mercury does the same thing, so you're injecting children with high doses of mercury.
We know that that also has a damaging effect on the reproductive organs.
We know that a number of these agents that we're being exposed to affect fertility.
Now, either you have to conclude, well, the government is just made up of a bunch of buffoons who choose to ignore the synergistic interaction of all these things that they're ordering into our food and water and its effect on reproduction and fertility, or they're doing it the government is just made up of a bunch of buffoons who Now, if you talk to young people, and I've talked to my sons about this, I've noticed that there's just an explosion of fertility claims growing.
There's been all over the country because young people are having such difficulty with their wives getting pregnant.
And he said, yeah, a number of his friends have had that problem.
Because, you know, you've either got to conclude, well, something else is in the air and the water and the food that's producing infertility for this sudden change in fertility of very young people.
More possibly, someone's doing this on purpose with this combination of fluoride, mercury, bactin, agent exposure and glutamate exposure to reduce fertility.
alex jones
But I mean, Dr. Blaylock, you in the past on this show have read amazing quotes by the Rockefellers and in their own textbooks and documents where they admit they're eugenicists and wanted to create a medical tyranny to reduce the population and then just recently
Ecoscience, the textbook written by the White House science czar John P. Holdren about how they would implant us with devices to sterilize us, put drugs in the water, lower our libido and sterilize us, set up a planetary government to do this, eradicate the family, using the educational system as the wedge to start that.
And then since then all these other books he wrote and government textbooks have come out describing exactly what they're now doing and I have him in congressional hearings where Jay Rockefeller says, oh, you walk on water, oh, you're the master planner, oh, you're the great builder.
It appears that they have adopted his plan.
Now, we know there were previous ones that were similar, but it's like they treat him like a rock star when he's on Letterman, when he's before committees.
And it appears that his plan from 1977, in this case, was adopted.
dr russel blaylock
Well, yeah, and as I told you on that previous program when we were talking about the Rockefeller Foundation and Carnegie Foundation and Ford, they were spending virtually millions, hundreds of millions of dollars on population control, eugenics, and sterilization.
And if you read their literature, I'm talking about some of the most powerful, influential people in society in the 1910-1920 era, It was very open, this call for controlling a population and reducing the level of the unfit and people without social utility.
They were quite open about it.
Well, they're not quite as open about it, but they're still writing about these things in the literature.
And these are people that are very influential, writing in prestigious journals and magazines.
If you look at the group of papers collected by the Hastings Center, which Ezekiel Emanuel, Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, the health czar for Obama, his papers are calling for this very thing, that we need to let the elderly die and stop giving them health care because they're an expense to the society and they have no right to live.
A very similar thing that we heard in the 1910s and 20s being funded on a massive scale by the Rockefeller and Carnegie and Ford Foundations.
And at the same time in Germany, I'm talking about in 1910, long before Hitler came along, their society was just flooded with the same literature and so was Austria.
Talking about the need to control the unfit.
alex jones
And we know who funded that.
The Rockefellers again with the Kaiser-Vellum Institute.
Almost single-handedly bankrolled it along with Thomas Watson of IBM.
dr russel blaylock
And much of their literature came from the United States.
They were quoting the literature that was produced by the Rockefellers and the Carnegies.
So Hitler grew up in a society that openly was disgusting.
The need to eliminate the unfit and the people that were disabled.
alex jones
That's right, Hitler thought the U.S.
and England were going to join him.
And that's why the King of England, Edward VIII at the time, was a Nazi, and Hitler was on Time Magazine, and man, he's doing a great job sterilizing and killing the retarded kids, and my God, we need to have more of this here, and we can drug the water, and then they went underground, and now they're doing it to us, and the general public better wake up.
dr russel blaylock
Well, the problem with the average person is they're not reading what these people are writing, because they're openly writing about a lot of this now.
The need to regulate and control society.
If you read this health care bill, and I've read all 1,017 pages, and analyzed various sections of it in detail, it is designed to eliminate the unwanted people.
And it conforms exactly to this Rockefeller idea that certain people are not fit to live in society and they have no right to be here.
And that government should decide who has the right to live in the United States and who doesn't.
I wrote a paper recently called Social Utility.
Should we let mom, grandmother, and grandpa live?
Well, that's the thing.
alex jones
I want you to comment on that.
Dashiell wrote a book saying if you're 60 you don't get eye surgery, you don't get brain surgery.
dr russel blaylock
And that's what they do in the socialized healthcare system.
alex jones
But that's the thing is they write it, Emanuel's brother says it, the bill says we're going to do what this board recommends, and then you read what the board recommends and it's what you just said, and then they lie and say we're not doing this.
Just like they have bills introduced for compulsory service and Obama wants it, and he's going to have the kids form up in front of him next week, literally with telescreens like 1984, and now he's saying, well, what's wrong with that?
I mean, Dr. Blaylock, do you ever pinch yourself, even though you study this and expose it, that it's really happening, that these people really are in control?
dr russel blaylock
Well, it's happening so rapidly, you know, as I tell people, you go back 40 years, You had a hard time getting a politician to admit he was a liberal.
Well, now they proudly not only say they're liberals, but that they're far left.
You know, most of the time on TV they say, from the left.
Well, 40 years ago, 30 years ago, you would never hear a politician say, from the left.
Because that's admitting I'm a socialist or a communist.
That I'm a collectivist.
But they're proud of it now, and what happened when we got the Obama administration.
alex jones
Well, look at Van Jones saying, hey, the green jobs is to take the economy over for total redistribution of wealth.
I mean, these people mean business.
dr russel blaylock
And it's the idea that there's a group of wise people who tell the rest of society what their duty is.
And this health corps, this corps of young people being drafted, is exactly that.
You have a duty to do what your government tells you to do, and help it.
alex jones
Amazing.
Amazing.
Dr. Blaylock, stay there.
When we come back, I want to get it more into the Eugenics Master Plan and then take phone calls at 1-800-259-9231.
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Then I'm getting into Van Jones, how they're trying to tie him into 9-11 Truth.
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We start the next hour in a few minutes at 1-800-259-9231, specifically on vaccines, excitotoxins, eugenics.
That's a big area, but specifically for Dr. Russell Blaylock.
Doctor, you said you just did a two-hour rundown program on the health care bill.
You read the whole thing.
I've scanned through it.
We have your report, Social Utility, How Much Are Grandpa and Grandma Worth?
And we've got that linked up on Infowars.com.
It's also at BlalockReport.com.
Run through what's really in the bill.
As a medical doctor, as a brain surgeon, as a neurologist, what this really does.
dr russel blaylock
If you look through the bill, one of the first things to assure everybody, you'll be able to keep your insurance if you like it.
That is an absolute lie.
What you're going to be faced with, and your employer's going to be faced with, is that if you keep your private insurance, there are penalties you're going to have to pay.
And of course, for the people covering your insurance, it's going to behoove them, in terms of finances, to move you forcibly into the public option.
So you will lose the high quality coverage that you have at your business.
Now for individual insured people, they tack on so many requirements, mandates, audits, financial things that have to be met by the insurance company and the insured person that you will no longer be able to pay your premiums.
alex jones
So this is a whole new bureaucracy where they fine you if you don't have insurance, and then like a new agency like the IRS come in and manage your life.
dr russel blaylock
Well not only that, you pay a 2.5% excise tax for not having insurance, and on top of that if you have higher income, say you make $250,000, $300,000 total worth, that's not your income but total worth,
Then they tack on another percentage and it could go up to as much as 8.59% tax that you're going to pay above your other taxes because you didn't take the public option or you just choose to get a health savings account.
You're going to be punished severely for that.
So you will be forcibly moved into the public option unless you're just enormously rich and resistant.
The really scary thing of this bill is that you read through it almost everywhere.
It says things are left up to the discretion of the Secretary of HHS, Health and Human Services.
So as you're reading the bill, you find that it's not actually spelled out.
It says this will be determined 18 months later or this will be determined a year later by the Secretary of HHS coding criteria who will be included.
All this will be determined later.
So you're signing a bill in which there's very few specifics added in many of these sections.
alex jones
Well that's what's happening with the cyber security where they admit it so they can take the web over.
That's what the gun bills do.
They have a bill that says the Attorney General can ban any and all guns whenever he feels like it.
They're openly setting up a dictatorship.
dr russel blaylock
Oh yeah.
I mean as you read through this bill you become more and more frightened.
Because, for instance, it says all physicians are in the public option, whether they want to be or not, that they have to specifically apply to remove themselves from the public option.
That is being a federal doctor.
And that the Department of Health and Human Services Secretary will decide the mechanism by which you're allowed to leave.
Uh, which she could make it so difficult and so financially punishing, uh, most doctors won't leave because they're gonna need doctors.
And they're not gonna want them to live.
It says that she has, uh, control over all payments to physicians, hospitals, nursing homes, uh, uh, it's at her discretion.
alex jones
And the incredible thing is most scary is I've read these sections you're talking about.
When you bring them up, they just say you're a liar.
It doesn't exist.
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Dr. Russell Blaylock is our guest for another 40 minutes.
I'm going to get into Obama's big push to have the youth line up and become his friend and help him.
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Dr. Russell Blalock's our guest.
Okay, next segment, I'm going to start going to your phone calls.
Dr. Blalock was just running through some of the total dictatorial blank check takeover, and that's everything Obama's doing is just at our discretion, at our discretion.
And go ahead.
dr russel blaylock
It's interesting.
The other day I was watching TV, and I had one of the leftist politicians saying, Oh, there's absolutely no rationing in this bill.
Virtually every page is rationing.
And the penalties on positions for just minor misinterpretation of rules or regulations, there's enormous civil penalties.
And what we know in national health systems, with time they get further and further in And in order to make up that loss, they start increasing the number of penalties and cutting physician pay.
Well, after a while, a physician's pay is going to be so low that he's no longer going to be able to maintain his office, which means they're going to have to sell it to the federal government.
The federal government will take over all physicians' offices.
Well, this happened where I used to practice in North Carolina, just under the Medicare and Medicaid and managed care.
I warned the physicians it was coming.
They chose not to list it.
I left and moved to Mississippi.
All of their offices were purchased by the regulatory agency and it ruined all of their practices.
Well, this is going to be much, much work.
We're going to federalize virtually every segment.
That has anything to do with health care.
alex jones
But look at it.
The roads are being grabbed, the auto industries are being bankrupted, and the bailout money goes to build the factories in China, Europe, and Brazil.
This is corporate receivership where these foreign banks use the government to come in, and now they're even taking over the essential services.
This is the total state.
dr russel blaylock
Absolutely.
Listen to this.
This is the rating of physicians.
One of the things they want to sell this bill is we're going to give you high quality health care and we have built into it quality measures.
Well, on page 258, line 13 through 17 on evaluating physicians for quality medical care performance, it says the performance will be based on satisfactory submitting data on the quality measure.
In other words, it's not the actual quality that we're measuring.
It's how well the physicians do what we tell them in terms of submitting forms and paperwork to the federal government.
If you're a good little boy and a good little girl and you submit your paperwork on time and you do all the paperwork they demand, then you're qualified as a very high-quality medical care facility.
alex jones
Well, sir, I mean, look at government offices falling apart, total lazy bureaucrats everywhere.
Now they want to take health care over and they're going to be raiding people and going after people with political weapons.
I mean, this is This is just an amazing tyranny, and every time I see another piece of it, each piece by itself is enough for a revolution.
But you put it all together, it's just, it's, the thing they have going for them is it's so bold that the government's going to take over and tell you who's good and who isn't?
I mean, this is insane.
And then they, I go back to it, Dr. Blaylock, they then lie about it and say they're not doing this.
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Well, you know, one of the big things that really got people fired up was the idea of the advanced care planning is the euphemistic term.
Uh, which was the death panels, uh, where we have consultation with the elderly and the chronically ill and disabled to convince them that it'd probably be better if they just moved on into another, uh, uh, life and give up their lives for the good of the state.
Well, if you read this, that's exactly what it says.
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Again, Dr. Blalock, we could have you back up in the next few weeks for another full show just on the health care plan.
But I go back to this.
I've read the same subsections you're reading.
My dad's a physician, so growing up I know enough about how healthcare works.
He's also been a medical care consultant to both hospitals and dental offices, so I can specifically read this and understand a lot of it.
But I've seen what the experts have said as well, and I've read it.
It's very clear this is a total takeover of 20% of our economy and the lying about it.
But you were getting into the death panels.
I mean, it's Daschle, it's Rahm Emanuel's brother, it's the publications.
At first, a few months ago, when they thought they had it, they were saying, yeah, you don't need these unnecessary tests and...
I've watched House of Commons, back when Tony Blair was in, admitting people were waiting 16, 18 months for brain surgeries that were 95% successful if you got it within two months, but if you didn't, you were dead.
And they admitted this.
I mean, I've got two people that work for me in England, the Watson brothers.
Their healthcare system's a nightmare.
And they now are saying, if you've had a bad life, or you've smoked, or you've done this, we're not going to give you the health care.
So, I keep going back to the lying when they attacked Sarah Palin, who by the way, I don't like Sarah Palin, she was a fool to quit the governorship.
You know, they put her in there as a ringer.
But my point is, she's right, but instead they just say, oh, she's a liar, she's a dumb woman, she's an idiot.
There's no death panels.
When these bioethicist boards, I mean, these are death panels.
Dr. Blaylock.
dr russel blaylock
Well, you see, they're clever not using the term death panels or end-of-life death panels or anything like that.
What they do is they leave it open-ended.
For instance, they talk about end-of-life services and support, palliative and hospice.
Well, if you know about hospice, what they did to them is you're allowed to, or you're supposed to, transfer a patient to hospice if you think they'll die in six months.
But physicians don't always know When someone would die.
Some live a year or two years.
Well, you have to take care of them and comfort them and give them their medication.
Well, the government came in and said anybody living over six months will cut off all Medicare payments, too, so you're going to be stuck with the cost.
Well, the hospice program said, well, we can't assume this cost, so they started injecting the patient with morphine so they would die within six months.
And so the government policy pushed the hospice system to start ending patients' lives sooner than they would normally.
alex jones
And now they're killing people in Europe.
Even Newsweek admits this, but says it's beautiful and wonderful.
I showed the article a few weeks ago.
They're now killing people who are depressed, and the government will pay for that.
But I know I interrupted you before you finished your full story along those whole lines, so go ahead.
dr russel blaylock
Well, in the bill itself, it talks about, you know, they say, well, it's not mandatory you have this counseling every five years.
Well, that's a lie.
Page 424 says that this is a part of routine medical care, and the individuals will have the consultations every five years, and that if they develop a change in their medical condition, that is an injury or anything that could potentially be life-threatening, life ending, which is virtually anything, that the consultations occur more often, and they'll be updated.
It also says that you will be referred to special national, state, and community-based organizations who will do the counseling.
Well, that includes ACORN.
alex jones
Exactly.
So this is total political indoctrination, and the horror stories of hospice, and it's different.
Different facilities are different, but the Wall Street Journal with Wesley Smith had a whole series of articles about people in government custody who were paralyzed neck down begging for food and water and being killed. - Yes.
dr russel blaylock
Well, yeah, and of course, this is what happened in England.
In England, for instance, one of the government studies on the quality of the National Health Service found that in one city, 400 to 1,200 people died from what they described as appalling health care.
That's just one city.
400 to 1,200 in a year.
Now you multiply that times the 60 million people in England, you're talking about 10,000, 20,000 more people dying every year from appalling care.
There's even stories of patients starving to death in hospital wards.
And I had a friend of mine who lives in Louisiana, And he told me the story of one of his close friends whose daughter was a medical student.
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She called home to her mother.
Her mother flew to England, picked her up, flew her back home to Louisiana and had an ambulance carry her to the hospital.
Now that's how they treat the medical student.
For six days she wasn't even seen by a physician.
She could have died.
alex jones
Well, I mean, I watch the House of Commons, and for all you dumb, stupid, ignorant, gullible people out there who are watching this or listening who believe all these lies about how you're going to get free health care, the moon is not made of cheese and you're not getting free health care, and the government
is working for big banks that want a new tax to pay off these tens of trillions they've stolen and they're just going to grab the health care, tax you, keep the money, and then give you an aspirin for a heart attack like they do in these other socialist countries.
So you better figure that out.
I want to go to calls, Dr. Blaylock, but have you, after we take some, hit some more of what's going on in the health care plan.
But Rahm Emanuel's brother Who's now in the White House advising.
Remember last week he said doctors shouldn't be so obsessed over their Hippocratic Oath to do no harm from Hippocrates and for what the last decade they haven't given the Hippocratic Oath?
I mean they really are taking our doctors and nurses and taking them from being great upstanding people, guardians of human dignity and turning them into little Nazi ghouls.
Can you speak to the Hippocratic Oath Well, the basis of the Hippocratic Oath was Hippocrates, and that was teaching physicians that you're to do everything you can for your patient, and you're never to take a life.
dr russel blaylock
Well, that, of course, was an attack on abortion, and so the left wing didn't like that at all.
Physicians were not supposed to take lives.
It also included euthanasia, meaning you're never to kill someone because you think they're a useless life.
Well, they didn't like that either.
So we have at least two things that were getting under the skin of the left, that's abortion and euthanasia.
So they want the oath to be removed.
Well, now with Ezekiel Emanuel, who's the physician, saying that this oath should be abandoned, and physicians are just too obsessed with the idea of saving lives, And we need to start letting these people go.
They're just wasted effort.
That they have no social utility.
And of course, that would also include all disabled people.
Because according to this lexicon, disabled people have no social utility.
They have no purpose.
And they're a drain on the economy.
Therefore, we should just let them die.
It even says in the Hastings Center that it has been a crazy idea to give dialysis to people because some are living 20 years on dialysis and that we could have just let them go at the time that they developed renal failure.
And they even, in one of the articles, said we should turn back the clock on medicine and instead of practicing high technology medicine we have today, we should turn it back to the 1960s level and have that as our health care.
alex jones
Doctor, is there any doubt in your incredibly deep breadth of research that these are eugenicists, and we have a eugenicist eugenics guild running our modern society, and that at the core, it's just a rationale to be sadistic control freaks who are on power trips.
I mean, most of these hollow people, they don't even think they're doing good.
These are really dark people.
dr russel blaylock
Well, yeah, I think it's a mixed group.
I think there's some who, in their perverted way of thinking, think it's good.
Some are just evil people from the core.
But, you know, if you read their literature, they really think this is something that's beneficial to society, is to get rid of what they call the human weed.
They said you weed a garden and get rid of the weed.
Well, that's what we have to do in society.
It's filled with all these unfit.
These people who don't deserve life, and we should weed them out by whatever method we can.
And they said, well, we know this public won't accept extermination camps, but if we could just deny them health care, they'll die off on their own.
alex jones
And that's what Margaret Sanger, of course, said.
You're repeating her, and then that's repeated.
But really, the test of humanity is people that are more intelligent, stronger.
We're meant to lift up the weak.
At the moment, We delve into this, we let pure wickedness out of the bottle and societies collapse.
dr russel blaylock
Well, absolutely.
I mean, when you start reading what some of the so-called elite write, it's quite frightening.
Like I said, the stage was set for Adolf Hitler in the 1900s, the 1800s.
People were writing things that he eventually implemented.
Same thing with Lenin and Stalin and Mao Zedong.
There were people who wrote Quite eloquent papers about controlling society and exterminating mass numbers of people.
Well, along came a dictator strong enough to carry this out.
What the average public sees is the dictator.
They don't see the foundation that was set 50 or 100 years before by these elitists.
One of the things that scares me in this bill, it describes taking over the entire medical education system.
It talks about in medical schools, anointing certain medical schools in which they will set the curriculum.
They will educate the professors that are teaching the courses, also taking over nursing schools, dental schools, so that the physicians will be trained.
alex jones
Well, sir, that's what the cybersecurity bill says.
If you're connected to any servers, any IT, the way it's written, everything, special federally certified cybersecurity people must be there like it's a union.
and And you must serve them, and they must certify you to be... I mean, if this passes to run this office, we're going to have federal goons in here.
And that's what they're doing to medicine.
I mean, folks, this is a control freak total takeover.
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Do you get more sun to get vitamin D?
Is that the answer?
And right before he leaves us, we'll ask him that briefly, but let's go to calls.
Tony in Jersey.
You're on the air, Tony.
unidentified
Good afternoon, Alex.
Dr. Glalock, how are you doing?
Hello.
I have a couple of questions about the swine flu shot, also about the healthcare, but I'd like to make two comments, if I may, Alex.
alex jones
Okay, that's two questions and two comments.
Make it quick, please.
unidentified
Number one, I do have some very interesting things that I'd like to discuss with you at a later time.
I have your number.
I'll get in touch with you.
alex jones
Okay.
unidentified
I've never gone public with this, and Big Brother probably is not going to like it.
In fact, I may even be in fear of my life.
alex jones
Tony, please.
That's a big preface.
Just tell us, sir.
We don't have a lot of time.
unidentified
Okay.
In 91, I tried to join the military.
I went through the MEPS process, where, you know, it's the Military Entrance Process Center, where they give you shots and take your physical and all that stuff.
Well, about two weeks afterwards, they called me into the office and told me that I had the AIDS virus.
I am not gay.
I have never had a blood transfusion.
I do not do drugs of any kind.
alex jones
Yeah, but about a third of the time, they give you a false positive, sir.
unidentified
Right.
Well, anyway, it turns out that that's what it is.
And after research and everything, I know where I got it, you know.
And so my question is, number one, With someone in that situation, how is the swine flu vaccine and the healthcare going to affect them?
alex jones
Alright, listen, I appreciate your call.
He's asking, he's saying if he has an HIV virus, what will this do?
dr russel blaylock
Well, if you have an HIV virus, you shouldn't have any vaccine.
Number one, they don't work.
Number two, if you have the vaccine and you're immunocompromised, you run a very high risk of developing autoimmune disease.
So you're in a special category where it's most people's evaluation.
You should not be vaccinated and it's not going to protect you.
So that would be my opinion.
alex jones
Doctor, what about this spin we hear that before you're not supposed to vaccinate pregnant women but now, oh that's the group that needs it first.
Is that some attempt to make the vaccine look safe or why?
Why pregnant women first?
dr russel blaylock
Well, it was known some time ago that women who develop the flu during certain periods of their pregnancy have a very high incidence of their children becoming either autistic or developing schizophrenia when they get older.
The incidence rate is as high as 7 to 12 or higher.
It was thought that that was due to the flu virus getting into the baby's nervous system.
The studies have since shown that it's not that at all.
It's the fact that the mother's immune system is activated and it's the immune cytokines that enter the baby that produce the damage.
alex jones
So the same information you discovered decades ago is now admitted in the medical journals?
dr russel blaylock
Sure.
And when you do this vaccination process, what you're doing, you're repeating that.
You're massively increasing the pregnant woman's immune system cytokines.
Raising her baby's risk of autism or developing schizophrenia.
alex jones
And is that because the baby's own immune system attacks its nerves?
dr russel blaylock
Yeah, it activates the immune system in the baby's brain, the microglia, producing an immuno-excitotoxic reaction.
But that's been well-demonstrated, even though with cytokine it doesn't.
alex jones
So they know this, they know this, and they're telling women to take it?
dr russel blaylock
I know, and to me it's just, you know, I think it's the most insane thing you could possibly do.
You know, this has a very low communicability, this virus, and so a woman's chance during pregnancy of that particular age developing flu is pretty small, but if you give them all the vaccine, then it's 100% they're all vaccinated.
And the real dangerous thing about this vaccine, they talk about giving three vaccines in 21 Which, if you know neuroscience, that is particularly dangerous because of the intense immune activation in the brain, the immunoexcitive toxicity in the mother's brain, and particularly in the developing baby's brain.
alex jones
Is that called a cascade?
dr russel blaylock
Well, it's a cytokine cascade, and what happens is that these immune cells produce so many cytokines, these destructive immune chemicals, It starts destroying brain connections and making the brain develop abnormally.
And they think that's what produces the autism.
alex jones
Which eugenicist Bertrand Russell said, we will give children injections to brain damage them to make them part of the servant class.
But I bet the government's just idiots.
They just so happen to want to target kids and women and people with something that brain damages them.
I mean, this is just amazing.
Mike, Andrew, Jeremy, Pat, we're good to all your calls.
Final segment, Dr. Russell Blaylock.
His website's BlaylockReport.com.
He's got books, DVDs, everything available there.
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There is no doubt that education, the medical system, We don't need no education.
Our industries, everything's being regulated, taken over, shut down.
They've used the third world labor to shut down industry.
Everything is about creating a monopoly.
The government wants to wreck society so they can consolidate it, just like Mao and Lenin with their great leap forwards.
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Dr. Russell Blaylock's our guest.
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His main site, the one to get the books, the videos, all the great materials, is RussellBlaylockMD.com.
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Get our books and videos and t-shirts and materials.
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This show is a huge platform for getting the truth out and I feel really good having doctors and scientists and neurologists on.
and virologist to tell you about the vaccines, the food, the GMO, all of it.
Because this is eugenics, this is real, this is what the elite are doing to us.
Let's go ahead and take some more calls.
Mike in Missouri, you're on the air with Dr. Blaylock, go ahead.
unidentified
Good afternoon Alex and Dr. Blaylock.
About a few years ago I had an accident and I became disabled.
I've got a spinal injury.
I'm in the managed care system here in St.
Louis, and I go to the medical school here.
I've been taking the vaccinations that they give every year.
I guess it's been seven or eight years now.
I've developed arthritis, and I never had psoriasis before, and my question is, Psoriasis, could that have come from the immunization that I've been getting?
dr russel blaylock
Well, it's possible because it is an autoimmune disease, but psoriasis is associated with arthritis.
There is a rheumatoid arthritis syndrome associated with psoriasis.
Now, whether or not you just spontaneously develop psoriasis or the vaccines, it's hard to tell.
It is an autoimmune disease, and we're seeing a lot of psoriasis now.
Like I said, all of the autoimmune diseases are increasing astronomically.
alex jones
Can I just add, sir, that if you'll search engine, vaccines, arthritis, this is not Dr. Blaylock or my opinion.
They know, in all the studies with rodents, they get it.
I mean, baby mice and rats get it.
And you're having an autoimmune response in your joints.
This is a more important question.
Doctor, what can he do to detox and to, he's got his immune system all cranked up, what can he do before he gets diabetes, before he gets real brain damage, before, I mean, is there something he can do to detox or to get the swelling down?
dr russel blaylock
Well, I can't give specific advice over the program, but just in general, what you want to do is if you're having an autoimmune reaction, you want to increase your omega-3 oil intake.
There's a Norwegian oil that you can get that has a balance of EPA, DHA components that reduces this autoimmune reaction.
Works very well for a lot of autoimmune diseases.
You just take a teaspoon a day, every day.
But vitamin D3 is the most important.
It is an immune modulator.
It prevents over-reactivity of the immune system.
And there's good evidence that people who have rheumatoid arthritis or lupus or these other diseases have a deficiency in vitamin D3.
You may have heard about multiple sclerosis and the connection to sun exposure.
You can take vitamin D3 in a dose of 2,000 to 5,000 units a day and that can significantly reduce many of these autoimmune diseases.
And that's a good way to prevent the flu from causing bad injury to you.
Because when you take vitamin D3, it stimulates the body to produce what's called antimicrobial peptides.
And they are very powerful at killing viruses, bacteria, fungi.
And there's evidence that people who have high vitamin D levels rarely have any sort of bad effects from flu infections.
alex jones
And sir, isn't it showing that cancer rates go way down from people getting moderate sun every day?
dr russel blaylock
Yeah, with elevated vitamin D3 in the body, it's about a 50% reduction in a number of cancers, particularly breast cancer, prostate cancer, lung cancer.
And it is for the same reason, because all of these things are produced for chronic inflammation.
And vitamin D3 reduces inflammation.
Now, vitamin D3 is the functional form of the vitamin.
It has vitamin D3.
But the recommendation now is by the health authorities is 2,000 units of vitamin D3 for everybody, even children, every day.
And if you give it to your children, you'll find they rarely get infections.
They get over their colds and flus.
alex jones
Well, I mean, this goes back to, and I'm not a biologist or a brain surgeon like you, but just reading medical text, I can get the essence of it.
That's why they call the British limeys, because their guys weren't collapsing on the deck 10,000 miles away from home, because they carried little limes with them.
That kept their collagen up because the vitamin C was needed with the vitamin D absorption somehow at a metabolic level.
I don't quite understand that, but I mean, look, a lot of America has scurvy.
We're not getting sunlight.
We're not eating good food.
We're eating a bunch of crud.
I mean, in layman's terms, is that good advice, doctor?
dr russel blaylock
Yeah, you know, all these vitamins interact.
People don't generally, and a lot of nutritionists don't seem to understand it.
The vitamins have interactions that benefit the functional ability of the vitamins.
So you take vitamin D, you take vitamin E, you take carotenoids, the other B vitamins, and selenium, and magnesium.
All of these things drastically reduce autoimmune disorders.
They stimulate your healthy immunity to help you resist viruses and bacteria.
People that are high on flu are generally immune suppressed.
Normal, healthy people with good immune systems rarely die or even get seriously ill from the flu.
So when you see these teenagers, for instance, in the studies on this flu, 32% of the children that died had asthma, which is an immune disorder.
Other ones have multiple illnesses, diabetes, heart disease, other inflammatory immune diseases.
alex jones
But look at old folks who never get out and get sun!
dr russel blaylock
Well, and they also have difficulty converting the sunlight into vitamin D. So they need to take the supplement.
And it's been shown that until you get above at least 1,000 units of vitamin D3, your blood levels really don't rise.
When you're in the sun for 30 minutes, you're getting about 10,000, 20,000 units of vitamin D3 manufactured.
alex jones
Man, I love it.
I can have a headache, be tired, go out 30 minutes in the sun in my backyard, and it's like...
Energized.
I mean, it's like a million times better than a cup of coffee.
We gotta let the doctor go here in just a few minutes.
Mike, I hope that answered your questions.
Are they pushing vaccines on you when you go in to get medical care?
He dropped off.
I know they are pushing it now.
Andrew in Toronto, Canada.
You're on the air with Dr. Blaylock.
unidentified
Hello?
alex jones
Yes, sir, go ahead.
unidentified
Yeah, I just wanted to make a comment and tell you about a new tool I've created for the Infowar and ask a quick question.
The question, in light of all the denial, the huge level of denial everywhere, and where we are at in terms of the timing of everything, I mean, there's a lot of people that when you point them on to certain resources, they just shut off when they hear about similarities.
alex jones
I hear you.
I gotta jump though.
I can't get into other subjects.
I want to jam in some more calls.
Dr. Blaylock, what do you do when you, even as an eminent brain surgeon, neurologist, you know, your work's all over the medical literature, trailblazing.
You don't really toot your horn on so many fronts.
I mean, I would imagine you run into people that are just doubting.
What do you say to people that just want to take shots every year?
You know, want to be unhealthy, want to drink aspartame.
What do you do?
Move on to folks you can, Warren?
dr russel blaylock
Well, that's it.
You know, it's a free country, and if you want to do it, then you just have to accept the consequences.
I'll present you with the evidence if you want it.
You can look at it, you can take it or leave it, and you'll pay for ignoring it, but that's the benefit of a free country, or one of the effects of a free country.
Absolutely.
Let's go ahead and talk to Jeremy in Texas.
Jeremy, you're on the air.
If you eat hamburgers and french fries every day, then so be it.
I've warned you that when you have your heart attack or your stroke, then you can't say you weren't warned.
alex jones
Absolutely.
Let's go ahead and talk to Jeremy in Texas.
Jeremy, you're on the air.
unidentified
Yeah, Dr. Locke, Mr. Jones, everything in Obamacare, everything having to do with the vaccine is an extreme danger to life or property.
And I wonder your opinion.
And every time that we try to wake up somebody, it will not make the news.
What if patriots across the United States begin flying the United States flag, ye inside down, as a public display to try to wake people up?
alex jones
A lot of people are doing that, and then when neighbors ask why you're doing it, you can explain it's the country in distress.
That's why we've had the poster contest that we're extending entries out until next Tuesday, where people put up posters of political ideas and then videotape it.
The contest is, you've got to videotape it and get that submission in to us.
And it's having a great effect.
Look what we did with the Obama Joker poster nationwide.
That probably made it in, conservatively, that I've seen, 60, 70, 80, probably more, newspapers from Tokyo to Los Angeles, TV stations covering it.
And that's just what our listeners did.
So, yes, we need to somehow Dr. Blaylock, I wanted to take medical questions for you.
So many of these are on other subjects.
Let's talk to Pat in Ohio.
Pat, do you have a medical question for Dr. Blaylock?
unidentified
Yes.
Hello, Alex and Dr. Blaylock.
My mom, she suffers from Alzheimer's.
In the past month, she's been really regressing.
And I need to know, is there any type of modern-day technology that can help to improve her condition?
Exercise?
And the contact number.
Well, I do exercise with her.
She's gotten to the point where she won't even eat now unless I feed her or someone feeds her.
She gets into a sleep, a stupor like.
And um, that's what I need.
I need a contact number also, a telephone number.
alex jones
A telephone number for who?
unidentified
Uh, Dr. Blalock.
dr russel blaylock
Oh, I don't see patients any longer.
Um, well, you know, Alzheimer's disease is an inflammatory brain disease.
It's a chronic brain inflammation.
The elderly are getting really sleepy.
It means their brain is more inflamed.
And as the Alzheimer's patient reaches towards the end of the disease, there's a lot of loss of cells as well as connections.
The only thing that I know that I generally recommend for people with Alzheimer's is drastically increase your vitamin D intake.
Because that's the best way to reduce your brain inflammation.
alex jones
Magnesium, the fish oil, all in... Is your mother on magnesium and fish oil and vitamin D, ma'am?
unidentified
Yeah, she's an integrated medicine doctor and they put on omega-3 and fish oil and a variety of stuff.
alex jones
She's not drinking Diet Coke or eating... No, no, no, no.
unidentified
She drinks just juice, mainly water.
A lot of water anymore.
She doesn't drink pop, and of course she doesn't drink liquor.
alex jones
Is it chlorine?
It's not tap water, is it?
unidentified
No, no, no.
alex jones
She's been off that for years.
Well, again, I'm not practicing medicine here.
I'm just going from what I've heard doctors say.
At a point, doctor, isn't it just the brain loss is so great that it's a downward spiral?
dr russel blaylock
Yeah, when you see people who have Alzheimer's, their brain immune reaction barks normally, and as the disease progresses, the inflammatory reaction increases.
And the glutamate in the brain starts elevating and the brain becomes more sensitive.
So anything to reduce brain inflammation is the main thing.
You know, I don't want to halt my supplement, but I have a supplement for brain inflammation that you can look at on my website and see if that's up.
alex jones
Oh, absolutely.
Go to RussellBlalockMD.com.
It's brain lipid and brain repair and really has all the medical science.
Ma'am, what's your mother's name?
Ollie.
unidentified
Ollie.
Ollie Collins.
alex jones
Okay, well, I'll ask folks to pray for your mother and...
Yeah, I mean, just look, they're getting people 35, 40 years old with Alzheimer's now.
They're poisoning the hell out of us.
And it's just a real shame.
We've got to all watch it and take care of each other to get out of this.
And God bless you, ma'am.
I'm sorry to hear that.
Dr. Blaylock, I've got to get you back on in the next month or so.
We're very thankful for your time and very thankful for all you're doing.
The books, the videos, the materials are all at RussellBlaylockMD.com.
Thank you for spending time with us, sir.
dr russel blaylock
Well, thank you, Alex.
God bless you.
alex jones
God bless you.
Yeah, it's painful taking phone calls like that one.
I want to come back and hit a little bit on the Van Jones thing.
Because they're trying to tie in the 9-11 truth, and I waited to go to calls.
I'll have Blaylock back and do two hours just with calls.
And I wasn't trying to be mean to callers I hung up on, but I just can't talk about other subjects when he's on.
Because I'm talking about the brain right now.
I wanted to bring Ted Anderson up the next two minutes before we come back to the final segment, though, because I want to explain this.
Ted has gold and silver.
He sold out of the stuff he bought between 9.05 and 9.16, the gold, when gold was at that price.
Now gold's right up at a thousand a day.
He sold out of that, but he made more buys last week when it was at the 920 to 940 level.
So you're still buying gold and silver at a cheaper price than it's currently selling.
I want to explain, this is a super good deal.
That's why we're offering this right now, because the gold market is ultra hot.
I was watching CNBC this morning.
They were saying, oh, my gosh, gold's just going to explode now.
That makes me think it may not, because they're saying it.
But the point is that you win, win, win, win, win.
I mean, when Ted's normally selling this gold, when the market didn't even up, there's a tiny $4 markup on a $200.
I mean, I've seen that.
Ted's already selling it super cheap.
But when the market goes up, he's selling it to you from when he bought it at a lower price at the same price.
But this gold and silver, he told me, will run out in the next day or two.
So he's going to hold this deal through the weekend.
Even though Ted told me he lost some money yesterday because he actually ran out of gold at the one price he had, but he's just selling you gold at a lower price than he even bought it.
Now, Ted's had to quit that deal today, but it's still a super good deal.
This deal's about to end.
Ted, tell folks what you've got and give them the number.
unidentified
Yeah, the coins that I have, they're still priced at the lowest level that I picked up here recently, are the Walking Liberty half silver pieces.
It's silver, but it's silver.
It's still at a good buy.
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I mean, silver's over $16 an ounce now.
The goal that I have right now is the $10 Liberty, and they're at $8.18.
The place to get in contact with us is 1-800-686-2237.
And just a quick note for those of you who picked up the Franks yesterday at the price of $216, right now you're looking at $233.
For those of you who picked up the francs yesterday at the price of $216, right now you're looking at $233.
And those of you who picked up the British sovereign coin at the price of, let's see, right here it is, $266.
Right now they're at $2.88.
So, nice going for you there.
ted anderson
And all I can say, Alex, right now is that gold is breaking upward.
unidentified
It's had a lot of resistance at that $9.40, $9.45 level.
Everybody's looking for gold to break through $1,000 an ounce.
I can't see how it won't do that.
ted anderson
It may correct a little bit here and there, but it's holding at that high nine, so it's going to go up.
unidentified
I'd just call us at 1-800-686-2237 and take advantage of the few offers that I have left here before Labor Day.
alex jones
That's right.
Some of the gold futures have gone above a thousand an ounce, folks.
800-686-2237.
800-686-2237.
Ted is smart.
He buys it when it's low.
When it's high, he sells it to you at the low price.
You cannot beat the deal.
unidentified
800-686-2237.
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I meant to spend more time on this, and I will Sunday, 4 to 6 p.m.
We got Gage popping in to start debunking the thing the Arabs funded out of Mumbai.
They're openly funding all of National Geographic.
And Saudi Arabia and that whole Arab emerance over there is deeply involved with the globalists.
So we're going to debunk the ridiculous debunking they did.
I mean, they say the commission was unanimous, the official story has never changed, but the conspiracy theorist story has changed.
We did an analysis and we noticed seven of the ten commission members said it was a fraud and a lie.
That's hardly anywhere in the media, but we found all their quotes.
Seven of the ten say it's a fraud.
Yeah, your story stayed the same.
There's a key story up on PrisonPlanet.com that everybody needs to see.
What they're doing is they're introducing National Compulsory Service to us by wearing us out.
Yeah, the President's going to address the youth and ask for your help.
Yeah, he's going to be on big telescreens in front of the kids.
Yeah, he's going to ask them to write letters about how they can help him.
And Al Gore is out saying, don't listen to your parents on global warming, they're idiots.
We played those clips.
And Obama's calling for compulsory service in speeches and his Rahm Emanuelism.
Meanwhile, George Soros and Rockefeller-funded Media Matters openly fund those groups, are saying we're liars, none of it exists.
Insulting your intelligence, okay?
When the bills are introduced and one bill passed to set up the federal boards.
We have a whole bunch of videos here posted in this article, Paul Watson posted, where the kids are pledging allegiance to Obama, worshipping him, doing whatever he says.
The Feds are taking over healthcare, manufacturing, industry.
Van Jones, their green jobs czar, says we're going to do this incrementally.
We played the clip yesterday.
We're going to have total communism.
We're going to have total collectivism.
We're going to have total, total is the quote, redistribution of wealth.
But that means into the elite bankers' hands.
The bankers have created Not even with interest.
$23.7 trillion and counting in 10 months of debt they say we owe.
We give them the money and then we pay them interest on money we give them.
So they've got to have total takeover of society and health care to get that tax money and you're not going to get the health care, you're going to get eugenics.
We've got to up our game against these people.
We're having an effect, but I'm telling you, Obama is plunging and burning.
He's going to stage terror attacks.
He's going to stage something big, and maybe the flu.
I'm not sure, but just look out.
Keep your ears on, your eyes open, get ready.
Because I'm telling you, the enemy's moving on every front, and they're in trouble.
That makes them even more dangerous.
But we can't lay down and let them run over us.
We've got to head up, give them the fight 110%.
Just commit to the fight.
That's the end of it.
Go all the way, don't stop.
And notice they demonized Van Jones properly, he did deserve it, in conservative media, and they turned around and said he's a 9-11 truther, which isn't really the case.
Somebody just signed it up for him.
That is to then take the anger of grassroots against big government and total communism for the bankers, And to then put it off on 9-11 Truth.
And you're seeing all these hit pieces against 9-11 Truth right now because they realize it's the key to exposing just how criminal this elite is.
And as long as we're exposing 9-11 as an inside job, they can't stage more terror attacks.
So, we're going to be counter-striking against their lies coming up in the next week with Professor Jones, with Richard Gage.
Let's get David Ray Griffin on.
As well, I just thought to do that.
And I'll be back this Sunday, 4 to 6 p.m.
And then Tuesday, folks, heads up, Tuesday is a big show.
You want to watch InfoWars.com on Tuesday morning and PrisonPlanet.com.
Great job, crew.
Have a wonderful weekend.
See you back Sunday live, 4 to 6 p.m.
Have a great commie day coming up Tuesday.
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