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bob chapman
Thank you, and I'll see you next week.
jason bermas
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Operation Carlitos Way targeted cross-border smuggling of cocaine and marijuana.
That's right, our heroes in the Sheriff Department of Texas and of the school system dealing drugs just like the shadow government did in the 80s and continues to do today.
Hey, if it's good enough for them, why not our local officials?
It's the Alex Jones Show.
Alex coming up after the break.
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unidentified
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bob chapman
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alex jones
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unidentified
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alex jones
Okay, real fast.
Mark in Oregon.
You're on the air with Bob Chapman.
Go ahead, Mark.
Hi. Go ahead.
mark in oregon
Hi, Alex and Bob.
How y'all doing today?
Good. Um, Alex, a massive post-pandemic Yes,
think would also be powerful as well as an expedited production and release of a video by yourself, perhaps titled The Vaccination Dispatch.
alex jones
sir. All right, let me be clear.
Let me be clear.
That's a great idea, the vaccination deception.
I've interviewed Tenpenny and others.
There is a section in the new film about the vaccine.
It's just, it's coming out right in October, and they may back off by then, so I need to make it just about how they use overall vaccine systems.
But going back to Bob Chapman, Bob, is it just the idea of lots of posters lets people get the idea that other people are upset?
It's harder to go form groups out of Out of this, you can form groups.
bob chapman
That's correct.
And also, you have existing groups that you would introduce these posters to and say, look, if you're going to do this, you've got to do that, too.
Because they're going to disagree with the vaccination process.
So you would get a hold of those groups and introduce them to posters and say, put them up everywhere.
And I've done that before.
Of course, I'm a little old for it now.
During political campaigns, you know, we go out and from 10 o'clock at night to 6 o'clock in the morning and put posters everywhere.
alex jones
Yeah, there's nothing more American, nothing more pro-liberty, and the fact the government's trying to demonize it is outrageous.
San Francisco won first place, the guys that did lower Manhattan, you won second place, and I'm watching all these other videos.
I think I know who third place is.
I'll announce it on Monday.
Or during the weekend, they'll be posted up on the site.
We're launching a new contest.
It'll be up by tonight or tomorrow to expose the flu.
Okay, to expose the shots.
I've just got to get all that written up and done as well.
Speaking of the posters, let's go to Jeff in South Dakota.
Jeff, quickly, what happened to you?
unidentified
Yeah. Yes, Alex and Bob.
I was in Broken Bone, Nebraska, which is where my wife is also a nurse.
I went down to the local gun show.
I was going to take a picture of this huge Obama poster that the local IT slash, you know, all-in-one store guy had up there at the gun show.
The thing must have been 8x10.
In the meantime, I'm putting up my own posters and stuff outside of the Obama Joker poster and stuff.
And as soon as I went back in to do stuff, I noticed my posters and stuff would get ripped down.
I noticed a couple gentlemen outside.
One looked like a farmer.
Another one looked just like a cowboy.
And it turned out to be the promoters.
They, in the meantime, went inside.
May Jim take down his big poster, which I wanted to get for you, Alex, just for being huge.
I mean, nice poster for you.
I came back, I said, well, what was up?
Why are you taking this stuff down?
He said, well, we're afraid to be political, because the mayor of the town here in Brooklyn, Nebraska might kick us out of the municipal building.
alex jones
And exactly, that's how this tyranny works.
First they tell churches they can't, now they're telling, and then everybody's just, in fact, that's what the local paper in Austin.
Absolutely. Absolutely.
unidentified
and you know what you do is you tell them and take a hike so that's what well that's what i was saying and i really need a man i said well okay well your ancestors must have been tories or something i said you know maybe they
No, they are!
alex jones
They're cowards!
They literally worship licking boots, and we better not let anybody put posters up!
They might come get us in America, you know!
They might as well live in Romania in 1965.
They might as well live in Ukraine in 1935.
I mean, these people want to be raped.
They want to be enslaved.
It's disgusting.
Keep it up, Jeff.
Get the posters out all over the town.
Don't stop.
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Get a free copy at theinternationalforecaster.com.
See you next week, my friend.
bob chapman
Okay, bye-bye.
alex jones
Take care.
There he goes.
We'll be right back.
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I think a storm's coming.
He's done some research and when you start rationing health care, and it looks as if that couldn't happen I mean if you got 50 million more people in the system and a certain number of doctors people are gonna be in line you're gonna have to determine who gets the next treatment is Unfairly the elderly are the ones who are gonna get shortchanged.
That's so true.
I mean in a way.
alex jones
It's a form of eugenics And that's why we've got him on with us I continually hear him point out how they want to put troops on the streets Have the inoculations, martial law, now Ron Paul is talking about it, former Congressman Dick Armey saying they may use this as a pretext to get their healthcare ram through this flu hype that they've got going.
So joining us for one segment, and then we've got Congressman Ron Paul coming up, is, of course, Dr.
Mark Siegel, Fox News contributor.
And I certainly agree with a lot of the information he covers and also meshes with some of the other medical doctors and virologists and epidemiologists that we have on.
Sir, thanks for coming on.
unidentified
Good to see you.
How are you doing?
Nice to be on.
alex jones
Take on Obamacare.
I mean, I've gone over the sections.
All that bad stuff is in there.
Or it points at boards that we know do carry out all this rationing.
We know what happens in Canada and England and Germany.
That's on record.
You can watch the House of Commons on C-SPAN and see them admitting it.
I mean, as a doctor, give us your snapshot of this program, where you see it going, and why you're saying it borders on eugenics.
unidentified
Well, I think the big issue here is that it starts in the wrong place.
I'm getting more and more disturbed about it now that we're seeing these religious references and everyone that doesn't agree with President Obama is somehow bearing false witness.
I mean, how awful is that?
I mean, you know, I think that the whole discussion is misguided.
First of all, anybody understands in the United States that if we're going to change something, we need a debate.
So it's very suspicious that if you disagree with the president and the administration, somehow you're wrong.
I mean, where's the debate then?
There's got to be something to discuss.
And what about practicing physicians who are in the trenches every day with patients and see where this is going?
You know, I'm not an insurance salesman.
I work with patients.
I have to deal with insurance, public and private.
So why isn't the administration more interested in the fact that practicing physicians are having a problem with this?
We don't think that government insurance works that well.
We don't think that Medicaid works well at all.
We don't think Medicare is working very well.
alex jones
Conyers admits that.
I mean, how can they implement something if they can't even read what was written by special interest A, and then B, going back and backing you up?
We have them all over the news now as a mantra saying, you can't even call it socialism, or you're a racist, using the N-word.
They are weaponizing politics, terrorizing the public, and invoking racism.
They're actually the ones using race.
They're the ones that are engaging in racism, race pimping.
unidentified
Well, I mean, you know, really, I think that we have to get back to basics here.
You know, what are the basics?
The basics are, whether they like it or not, health care and health insurance are not the same thing.
I mean, Americans understand that.
That's one of the reasons we're having the problem we're having.
Americans understand that.
They own an automobile, and they know if they bring their automobile in with a scratch, their rates are going to go up.
And if they try to bring their automobile in with a scratch too much, they're going to find out there are no repair shops around taking their insurance.
That's something we've lost sight of with health insurance.
Health insurance is the problem.
It's not the solution.
And government-run health insurance is absolutely the worst.
So it's completely disingenuous to have this discussion without looking at what real health care needs are.
And one thing is, and this is where I get very upset, there's a great shortage of physicians in the United States.
There's an estimated 40,000 primary care physicians we're going to be lacking in the next 10 years.
And you can probably triple that, given the fact that we have 78 million baby boomers coming in.
Then let's piss off physicians more.
Let's cut them.
Oh, don't worry.
We're not cutting benefits to patients.
We're only cutting benefits to the poor guy in a Medicaid clinic who's already doing cataract surgery for free and saw his reimbursements cut down from 1,700 to 500 and, you know, and has to file the paperwork with Medicaid before he can get a penny.
alex jones
I mean, my dad's a physician.
He can't even then afford the medical malpractice insurance.
People aren't living in the real world that don't live and work as a physician like you do.
And I think you point out the whole debates of fraud.
Back before we had medical insurance, we even had better access to health care.
It becomes just this bigger and bigger fraud, this bigger You know, People ask me all the time, why aren't doctors fighting?
unidentified
I'll give you a couple of answers for that.
Number one, you're not going to believe, which is they're too busy taking care of patients.
Number two is most doctors realize that they're being steamrolled and they don't feel that there's anything to do about it, so why waste their time?
But there's going to be a rude awakening in a few years if this gets slammed down.
Doctors are going to revolt.
And I'll have to tell you, full disclosure, here's how doctors revolt.
They either drop out or they game the system.
Now, do patients want that?
Do you want to be gamed?
Do you want your doctor to drop out?
Let's deal with a real myth that you're going to get to keep the doctor you got now till he quits.
You know, great, great, great quote, get to keep the doctor you have now.
So, you know, physicians are being completely ignored in this whole discussion.
And a few of us have loud voices.
But clearly, the debate, would you have a debate about operating your train without talking about the conductor?
Would you say, let's pad the seats, let's get new dining cars?
By the way, the engineer's quitting.
Who's driving the train?
alex jones
That's like the government says they're going to put screen doors on submarines without consulting the engineer who designed the submarine.
unidentified
I mean, it's totally the case.
And I don't want your listeners to think, by the way, that I only care about doctors.
But there's a trickle-down effect here.
Because everybody knows that when you go to the doctor's office, you're not meeting President Obama.
You're meeting your physician.
And it's not that I – and by the way, one more thing that I don't think I've ever said before.
I want to make a really, really important point here.
You know, doctors are not the same doctors that we were dealing with in 1964 when Medicare came down the pike.
Those doctors were definitely living high on the hog.
And there was a lot of fat on the bone.
Now, I don't happen to think the fat was chipped off the bone in the right way.
I don't think HMOs work very well.
And I know that the government insurance does it.
But the doctors we have now are very close to the bone.
They have very, very high overhead.
They're working their butts off.
They're seeing 40 patients a day.
What do you want them to see, 60?
I mean, let's flood their offices with millions of more patients and pay them less and hospitals we're going to cut.
alex jones
Well, I've seen it with nurses.
That's why they've got such a shortage there.
I mean, it's a hellish job because they are overworking everybody, and they use a few specialists on TV to demonize the profession.
In the five minutes we've got left, I want to plug your website.
It's drsiegel.com.
That's drsiegel.com.
I wanted to specifically get into eugenics, though.
You said it's almost like eugenics.
Well, the bioethicist boards have a lot of eugenicist ideas in them.
Europe, as you know, they've said, if you're old, you don't deserve the same care as a young person.
Uh, we know that Daschle's book said, if you're old, you don't deserve the care.
So, I mean, can you elaborate as a well-known, prominent physician, why you use the word eugenics?
unidentified
Because we're trained in medical school not to make any difference between one patient and another.
I've talked about that endlessly and thought about that.
I don't treat, you know, overweight people differently than skinny people, except that I might focus on being overweight as a problem.
I don't say, this patient has no money, I'm going to treat them less.
I don't say, this person's rich, I'm going to treat them better.
I wouldn't have it any other way.
So where's the government coming along saying, you know, things like Ezekiel Emanuel has written about life years?
Too many life years?
I mean, what is that all about?
Why don't elderly deserve the same care as young people?
A patient is a patient is a patient.
That's the only way doctors can practice and it's the only way healthcare can be delivered and it's what the United States wants.
alex jones
And they're phrasing it In the media and the government, like it's good, like you want the government taking tests away, you want the government giving you an aspirin for a heart attack, like Cuba.
I mean, this is crazy.
unidentified
Well, I don't think the government, I think the biggest issue with the government, by the way, is that they don't have the qualification.
And they're, you know, never mind that they do such a great job with the IRS and with the Post Office, I think so.
get an MD from?
You know, we're in this for, I've been in this for two decades already, and I'm not just a practicing physician.
As you know, I'm writing about this.
I've been writing about health policy for 10 years.
I've studied this very carefully.
There's too many people in this, dealing with this, ramming this down our throats, who are not qualified to be looking at health care and health reform.
alex jones
They are qualified to steal 20% of the country's economy that's not under government control so they can give it to their fat cat buddies is now coming out.
In closing, the flu.
I've seen no U.S. media.
I'd love for you to break this nationally.
You've got the power to do it.
The Sunday Mail, the London Telegraph, German News reports, swine flu jab linked, a killer nerve disease.
Leaked letter reveals concern of neurologists over 25 deaths in America in the test alone of a vaccine by Gillian Bernays and other deaths of neurological, it's switching on some autoimmune response, massive brain swelling.
Doctor, your comments on this and the news saying three shots could mutate in the body.
unidentified
Well, look, I think it's a mild virus.
I think that, as you hinted before I came on, we don't know how it's going to be hyped yet.
We don't know what the administration's going to do to hype it.
I think it's a mild virus, but I do think it's made its way around the world, and I think we have to pay particular attention to it.
I don't think we can ignore it, but the hysteria is totally ridiculous.
I think we need a vaccine to it, but the vaccine is problematic, because in 1976 we had what we thought was a swine flu epidemic, which was completely fabricated, it turned out, and we ended up with close to 1,000 cases of ascending paralysis as a result.
That could happen again, but I don't want to use fear of the vaccine to replace fear of the virus.
I don't like fear in general.
I've written books on this.
alex jones
We've got 30 seconds.
My issue here is that, is that internal CDC, they're saying, Keith, I mean, were you aware of this?
It's not in our news.
unidentified
I'm aware of it.
alex jones
You are aware?
unidentified
I'm aware of it, but I don't, but I don't know to the extent to which it's a problem versus 76. In other words, it remains to be seen how significant a side effect this is.
Before I go and tell people, be afraid of this vaccine, I want to see more about what a risk this really is.
alex jones
They're keeping it secret, so shouldn't that be public?
Shouldn't there be a big debate about this?
unidentified
There should be a big debate about this, but I'm telling you right now, I'm always on the side of the facts, and I want to close by saying I think the vaccine is going to be safe.
alex jones
DrSiegel.com.
Doc, thanks for talking to us.
unidentified
Oh, my pleasure.
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Well, Obama's already fudging.
unidentified
He's fudged since day one of this election.
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If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascist.
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I mean, how could that last doctor, who's a nice guy and it speaks out more than most against the system, calling it eugenics, Say, yeah, I know it's killing some people, but, you know, we've got to see if this is, I forget his exact quote, you know, an acceptable level of side effects.
Because, you know, that's what they do, they triage.
They say, well, if this vaccine saves 10,000 people, but it kills 1,000, you know, it's okay.
That's kind of the medical idea.
I'm not saying Siegel's saying that, but it's in the same general idea and area.
They know it doesn't protect you from the flu.
They know it's already mutated.
You know their history of adding stuff to it.
You've got to admit what this medical system's doing, hyping this flu that's killed almost nobody up like it's the end of the world.
This is a big deal.
We're going to expose it with the contest.
Ron Paul is coming up, and then the rebroadcast starts, and I'll be back next, well, this Sunday live.
I want to thank the crew.
In fact, guys, make sure I also...
I'm supposed to, during the break, call that other TV reporter, so...
And when Duke gets back, make sure...
I'm having to give orders right now because I've got a bunch of stuff coming up.
My mind starts racing with all the different things we have to do.
Make sure we go ahead and give the Fox News reporter that young man's phone number that put the posters up so they can get the facts straight in the Fox News story.
So, that's happening too.
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Yeah, there's the Fox News story.
Felony vandalism charges possible in Obama-Joker poster case.
We have Joshua Miller's number from Fox.
He's been calling us.
We need to call him and explain this is all fraud.
And the police told the young man that we know this is selective enforcement.
That they don't normally go after people from this, but it's political pressure.
And that Obama supporters were there snapping photos of people doing it and saying, we're going to turn you in.
Just like Obama told them to do on his own website.
So, again, this is a big, big issue.
We'll have more for you on the abbreviated Sunday show as well.
In other news, the dollar is plunging.
All the real economic numbers show commodities exploding because of dollar devaluation.
Takes more dollars worldwide to buy those.
Governments are moving away from the dollar.
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simulcasting Coming at PrisonPlanet.tv, this syndicated radio show is in living color.
If you're a PrisonPlanet.tv member, come up in about 10 minutes.
I'm going to debut, here streaming live over the web, Fall of the Republic.
And for radio listeners, it'll also be informative, most of it's audio clips.
The trailer for my new film.
This is the first trailer.
We've got more detailed trailers coming out in the next month.
The release date is October 21st.
The film will be done in the next month.
And then we'll be shipping out to you again in the middle of October.
So you should be getting it in the mail right around release time.
But I wanted to get Cindy Sheehan on.
We appreciate her popping in to give us a report on what's happening.
Martha's Vineyard.
One of the favorite hangouts of the Clintons and Walter Cronkite and kind of the eastern establishment of the Eugenicist clan.
And Cindy Sheehan, who lost her son, of course, in Iraq.
Became a national icon standing up to Bush at the Crawford Ranch.
Now, Obama's in the news saying, please give my family privacy.
Oh, but his spy satellites and NSA phone tapping and his Blackwater thugs, they're not giving us any rest.
And so, there's hardly any mainstream media, at least I searched it this morning, I saw some, about Cindy Sheehan, with all these other great peace activists, because again, it was trending and fun to protest Bush, knowing he wouldn't end the war for the establishment.
But now that they're in power, like Rahm Emanuel said, you know, he campaigned against Democrats and ran the Democratic Party operation against Democrats that were actually against war.
And the corporate guys tried to throw Dennis Kucinich out because he's actually a real liberal and against war, and a real progressive.
So, Sidney Sheehan is out there shattering the left-right paradigm.
We've been publishing at Infowars.com and PresidentPanda.com the articles and reports he's been putting out.
They've got YouTube videos up, get her information out viral, and ask the media, why aren't you covering this?
More troops are dying under Obama than under Bush.
He's expanding the wars.
All his top generals say 10 to 15 years before they leave.
They rewrote the maps of the U.S. bases so they weren't part of the cities to claim they left the cities.
Corporate lawyer semantical games.
Cindy Sheehan from Martha's Vineyard, site of Lord Obama vacationing.
Cindy, good to have you here with us.
cindy sheehan
Hi, Alex.
Thank you so much for helping to promote this protest and promote the fact that, you said, even though there's a change in regime, the only change in policy has been for the worst.
And we just really need to reclaim our integrity and our morality in the anti-war movement to say that.
The wars, we were right to say the wars were wrong under Bush, and we're still right to say they're still wrong under Obama.
To me, it's a lack of media coverage, but it's also a lack of any kind of cooperation or solidarity that I'm not receiving from the establishment anti-war movement.
alex jones
That's because the Ford Foundation, as you know, and these other big money groups run and control the fake left.
It's just, I mean, where is Amy Goodman?
Where are all these groups?
Continue, please, Cindy Sheehan.
Tell us what's happening out there, how many people are out there, where you're located so other people can come join you, how long you're going to be there, what the Secret Service is doing.
cindy sheehan
All I can say for the moment is that to get a list of events they can go to my blog or to your website and it's at cindysheehan.blogspot.com.
The first event that we're going to have is organized Okay.
writing people all over the world an international people's declaration of peace.
And that's to start a grassroots movement because as I've said so many times the robber class doesn't want to change.
You know, we can't force the robber class to change, especially if so many of our so-called opposition has been co-opted by the two-party system or whatever you want to call it.
So we're going to be writing that.
We hope that we'll get solidarity from you and from your listeners on this People's Declaration of Peace that we'll be writing.
alex jones
Now, again, for people geographically, tell folks where Martha's Vineyard is, where the press conference is.
A lot of people aren't online.
I mean, how do people come out to this?
Do we call the media?
Challenge them to be there?
What do we do?
cindy sheehan
Well, absolutely.
You know the media's already there because Obama's there.
So what we have to do is you can call the media station at Oak Bluff Elementary School.
That's where the press conference is going to be tomorrow at 11. We're having a large anti-war rally on Saturday of people who are in Massachusetts or around this area.
can get to Martha's Vineyard, we will have a large vigil rally teaching against the war The island's fairly small and we're going to blanket the island.
We have support from people on Martha's Vineyard who have offered us housing, offered us places to hang our banners, places to put signs, places to do our vigils.
So we're going to be all over that island because we don't want Obama or the press or the anti-war movement to not know that we're there still protesting the wars like we were when Bush was president.
alex jones
What response are you starting to get?
I mean, I do see you getting more attention than you were a few months ago.
What are some of the positive responses you're getting from the anti-war community, or just the sanity community?
And what responses are you getting that are negative?
cindy sheehan
Well, it's interesting that the negative responses I'm getting are from people who would, I think, call themselves anti-war progressives, saying that I should give Obama Well, Alex, you know, four of our troops were killed yesterday in Afghanistan.
I don't even know how many Afghans or Pakistanis were killed yesterday.
alex jones
Yeah, they're getting a long rest now.
cindy sheehan
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly. So, why does he deserve a peaceful vacation?
The world deserves a vacation from war and a vacation from body bags.
alex jones
And by the way, Cindy, we know what this war is about.
I mean, I saw Admiral Mullen on CNN two nights ago making up stuff about why the opium has gone over 12 times what it was, I mean, since the liberation.
And then BBC admits, oh, we guard the opium so the warlords don't get it.
And then suddenly, heroin is all over the streets.
They're there just like the Russians were there to get that smack.
cindy sheehan
Right. Well, and then also there's the whole pipeline.
to get the oil to Asia from the Middle East.
So, of course, it's for profit.
Of course, that's what they're always for.
alex jones
That's right.
Black tar heroin and black gold.
Black tar heroin and black gold.
cindy sheehan
That's what they're always for.
So, yep, yep.
So that's what we're doing is we're getting a lot of excitement.
I'm getting mostly support, which is very gratifying to me.
And thank you for your support and letting your listeners and your viewers know what we're doing,'cause that's really important too.
alex jones
Well, I mean, where are you bivouacked?
How do folks physically get in a car right now, get over there?
How long are you going to be there again?
cindy sheehan
I'm going to be here until Sunday when the President leaves.
So, like I said, we're going to be all over the island.
They can, um, there's phone numbers that people can call to find out where we're going to be exactly.
If people can get over, there's emails.
people can email me directly, Cindy at cindyfehansofax.com.
If you tell us, it's not like Crawford where we had a camp.
We're going to be all over that island every day.
unidentified
Thank you.
alex jones
Well Cindy this is very exciting and I'd like to get some updates from you again throughout the week here and maybe on Sunday on the Sunday show when it's all over kind of a recapping final event for people out there driving along in their cars or listening on shortwave or whatever or on satellite.
Slowly give out the website address again.
cindy sheehan
Okay. Cindy, shehandssoapbox.blogspot.com.
There's a schedule of time, dates, and places where we will be for sure that we know already.
There, there's a place where people can donate to help us with expenses, and just a place where you can see the ideology or the philosophy of why we're out there.
alex jones
Let me ask you a question in closing.
Are you getting any media coming to you?
Before they were mobbing you, you were having to hide in a trailer giving interviews 15 hours a day.
Now what's happening?
cindy sheehan
There seems to be some interest.
I talked to some corporate media newspapers today, so it's not like it was when I was in Crawford, that's for sure.
So I find that very interesting.
alex jones
I mean, number one, it's a great story.
Cindy Sheehan now back.
You know, this has been going on for seven years.
Here's Cindy Sheehan, you know, five years into this.
Now she's back.
It's still happening under Obama.
That's a big story.
cindy sheehan
I've been trying to be low-key until our press event tomorrow.
So, after the press event tomorrow, we'll see what happens.
alex jones
Okay, we'll check in with you again.
Cindy Sheehan, thank you.
cindy sheehan
Okay, great, Alex.
Thank you.
alex jones
Thank you so much.
And again, we'll definitely at least check in with her Sunday in the aftermath of all of this.
The media should be knocking her door down, but no.
It's so trendy and fun to have Obama trying to start wars with the Russians and putting more troops into Afghanistan and wanting to go into Pakistan and predator drones and 100,000 plus troops still in Iraq and never leaving.
I mean, it's an insult to my intelligence.
It's an insult to your intelligence to have Have the media and the Iraqi government, under orders of the globalists, redraw their city maps where the Green Zone and other bases aren't part of the cities now.
And then say, our troops have pulled out.
I mean, this is a very cynical, cynical joke.
And they did pull back in one respect.
They pulled out the two-year-old surge.
Took troops out of the fortresses and put them in machine gun nests and checkpoints kind of like community policing and Now they've pulled those out so It's amazing it's kind of like cutting somebody's leg off and saying oh, but I'm trying to fix it and giving them a band-aid I mean, it's too little too late.
It's a joke It's cosmetic.
It's a corporate front.
I want to keep going to your phone calls where dr. Eisenstein joins us I also want to get into Bernanke, being nominated for another term as private Federal Reserve Chairman.
The rest of the board's appointed by them, but he's the little front man.
Geithner's the former head of the New York Fed.
That's the real powerhouse in the corporate structure.
That's coming up.
Also, judge orders fed to disclose who received bailout trillions.
Paul Joseph Watson, key story up on PrisonPlanet.com.
Big news, judge orders fed to disclose who received bailout trillions.
I said billions.
The mind has trouble dealing with trillions.
You used to have trouble a decade ago with billions.
Now it's trillions.
Soon it'll be quadrillions.
Well, it already is in the quadrillions.
The total black hole of debt that we're dealing with, with the derivatives.
I wanted to tell folks that up on PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com we have the first detailed write-up of my new film.
That is nearing completion that is we've got two hours laid out And I'm trying to put this in take that out add this document add that clip Working on a few final voiceovers, and I'll polish it in the next three four weeks, and we're going to be mass manufactured pre-orders start September 21st And they ship out a few days before the official release date at PrisonPlanet.tv.
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We're trying to even make the DVD earlier and then hold it so we can ship it out even faster.
But the pre-orders will start coming up in about three, four weeks.
I guess about three and a half weeks.
And I wanted to go ahead and play the trailer to the new film.
So, here is trailer one for Fall of the Republic.
And I want to say great job to the music guys here.
We've used Graham Reynolds in the past and I've also bought Royalty Free Music in the past and Rob Jacobs has made music in the past.
This time we've been using Derek Einkauf and Will and a few others who are obviously doing a fabulous job.
This is a quick mix.
This is kind of a raw trailer because I realize I've been so focused on the film, That I wasn't even focused on trailers to promote it.
So we've got even more powerful trailers coming out in the next few weeks.
But this is a great trailer Rob Jacobson put together.
And it says the following film preview is rated vital to the Republic and necessary for all audiences in defense of liberty.
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Spread this film everywhere through viral transmission to keep and preserve the Constitution and defeat tyranny in all its forms.
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Follow the Republic.
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Last week, the head of the country's central bank loaded the idea of dumping the greenback as the world's reserve currency, replacing it with an international currency.
Thousands of people gathered to hear Barack Obama deliver key foreign policy speech on his current European tour.
His vision for America's place in a new world order.
Returning vets could be a risk to our nation.
barack obama
We've got to give them a stake in creating the kind of world order that I think all of us would like to see.
unidentified
And one of the ways that will drive the change is through global governance.
I think the New World Order is emerging.
This is a hoax and a scam which is designed to transfer wealth and power from the private sector to the government sector and from the government of the United States to a world government.
And those people who have been yelling, oh, the UN's going to take over global government.
Conspiracy theorists.
They've been crazy, but now they're right.
And who got the money?
Hundreds and hundreds of banks, any bank.
Or that has access to the U.S. Federal Reserve's discount.
Can you tell us who they are?
No. You know, financial terrorism.
alex jones
They have the ability to tweak the knob.
barack obama
I am proposing that the Federal Reserve be granted new authority.
webster tarpley
The ultimate goal of the carbon tax and the cap-and-trade is to destroy Production.
unidentified
This energy tax is the largest tax increase in American history.
We're actually creating a global warming police.
So number one, they can come in, the federal government can come in and inspect your house and send you the bill.
We're setting up a global warming Gestapo.
barack obama
One of the things that if you talk to our guys, they are desperate for, is a civilian counterpart to our military forces.
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barack obama
I think one left to go.
unidentified
The president, when he was in Europe last week, he met with the king of Saudi Arabia.
alex jones
He appeared to Bob.
unidentified
President Obama today proposed something new.
Something called prolonged detention.
rachel maddow
Pre-crime is where people are arrested and incarcerated to prevent crimes that they have not yet committed.
unidentified
Fall of the Republic.
Fall of the Republic.
alex jones
Coming to the Info War.
October 21st, 2009.
Stay with us.
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alex jones
That's right.
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Barack Obama depicted a zombie killer in a new comic book.
alex jones
Is that racist?
Is that wrong?
So we don't get arrested by the thought police?
Says they've portrayed the president as a new comic book series named as he plays on words with the popular horror franchise Resident Evil.
And it's Obama with chainsaws as a superhero killing zombies.
Yeah, it was okay to show him as Superman, to show him as Batman, But you don't show him as the Joker.
Why, I need to be arrested for doing that.
And anybody else does, too.
You don't talk bad about the President.
That's illegal, because we don't have free speech in America.
Everybody knows that.
Well, I got news for you.
We're going to talk about whatever we want here.
Let's go to Jeff in Oregon, then Donna in Texas, Bill, Gene, Pat, and others.
Jeff, you're on the air.
Welcome. Well, yes.
unidentified
Good morning, Alex.
Just a question here.
I happen to be listening to Dr. Tenpenny on with Nori, I think it was last week, and I'm just wondering, she hinted She's thinking it will not be a forced inoculation, but rather a de facto criminalization of refusing the inoculation.
alex jones
Yeah, you won't fly, you'll have to stay in your house, they'll arrest you, they won't let you go to work, and then in the future, you have to take all their other vaccines or you can't go to work.
That's exactly how they're planning to do it.
In fact, let's set Tenpenny back up for the show.
She's learned a lot more now about this current flu situation.
She's been picking up a lot of new data.
And let's also set up Horowitz.
Horowitz and Tenpenny.
But go ahead, sir.
unidentified
So, you know, the thing that disturbs me about this is when she said that, Of course, last night I was listening to the replay of when you interviewed Ike.
I think it was the last time you interviewed Ike.
And he seems to, and other people who talk about the New World Order, seem to come back to, our best defense is to peacefully resist.
The problem is, and it seems that nobody wants to talk about this, not Dr. Stan, not Ike, not anyone, they're not going to let you peacefully resist.
alex jones
I understand that.
That's why we don't offensively go out, because then they can cast us as the bad guy.
When we defend ourselves, there's no way for them to demonize it.
But we try to reach out to military and police.
You've got police, the military, the nurses associations in Europe and the U.S. The majority of them, two weeks ago it was 35% of nurses say no.
This week it was, last night I saw over 60% in New York State.
Look, They're not going to get away with it, but they're going to come back over and over again with wanting to put things in our bodies because that's what the eugenicists are into.
That's their zero population growth.
That's what the government textbooks call for.
That's what they want.
So they want to set that precedent.
That's why they love pharmacological crops.
They're already engineering the crops to do this.
Yeah, there's a poll.
Half of doctors will refuse to take swine flu shot.
Steve Watson, that came out Okay, not today.
So, very, very interesting.
Anything else, sir?
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Yeah, did you say that Israel, 75% of the doctors were against the vaccine, but they're going to vaccinate the entire population anyway?
alex jones
I don't remember saying that.
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I must have heard that from somebody else.
So, Alex, you are the Sean Connery character in Outland.
Well done.
alex jones
Outland? What am I, like, going around with a shotgun, fighting with the company hitmen that are trying to sell some amphetamine drug?
That's a good movie.
Outland with Sean Connery, you ever seen it?
It's a good science fiction movie.
It's really like a western set on some moon of Saturn, I think.
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It's a good movie.
Sean Connery should've done more serious roles like that.
Said it's like Highlander.
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Oh my god.
alex jones
I like Sean Connery movies like Thunderball.
It's a good movie.
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We are joined by Dr. Mayor Eisenstein.
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And it's an amazing book.
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This is the book to give friends, family, neighbors, to inform them about what's really happening.
Dr. Mayor Eisenstein is a graduate of the University of Illinois Medical School, the Medical College of Wisconsin, School of Public Health, and the John Marshall Law School.
In his 33 years in medicine, he has practice, have cared for more than 75,000 patients, grandparents and children.
He is board certified by the National Board of Medical Examiners, American Board of Public Health and Preventative Medicine.
He's like a super doctor and a lawyer.
And the American Board of Quality Assurance and Utilization Review Physicians.
He is recipient of the Howard Fellowship.
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He is the author of Give Birth at Home with the Home Birth Advantage Safe Medicine, Don't Vaccinate Before You Educate, Unequivocally Dangerous Medical Hazards of HRT and Unlocking Nature's Pharmacy.
His medical film is, which means in Latin, Above All, Do No Harm.
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And a documentary on harm birth was an award winner at the Chicago Film Festival.
And homefirst.com is just one of his websites.
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Doc, I got you on about vaccines, and it's been too long, in like two years since I've had you on.
There is so much to go into, but we were talking during the break.
Please repeat the point you made when I was first talking to you.
dr mayer eisenstein
Let me tell you, Alex, it is a true report, a comment, you know.
As I've been following this, you know, I've been blessed.
I'm a student of the late Dr. Mendelsohn, so I knew that vaccines were dangerous, because he knew about that 35 years ago, and so most of my practice and none of my children have been vaccinated.
But you were talking about eugenics, population control, that they have different stuff in the vaccines.
Your material's gotten soft, Alex.
I mean, this is mainstream media that they're picking up on this, you know.
I mean, I wanted to know something.
I looked at Fox News yesterday online, and they talked about that the latest czar, Dr. John Holdren, who's a nasty, nasty person.
I mean, and we're going to talk about him for a minute.
You know, he wants to push this vaccine in September, you know, and he's the one who co-authored a book with Dr. Paul Ehrlich in the 70s about eugenics and everything.
I mean, he's, you know, they openly said it, you know, and he's the one who wants to push this.
So they talked about how 90,000 people are going to die.
100 people commented.
95% have been listening to Alex Jones, or I thought they were.
There's Mercury, you shouldn't take the vaccine.
There's Squalene, you shouldn't take the vaccine.
Dr. Ted Petty said you shouldn't take the vaccine.
I thought I was looking at an alternative medicine blog.
Unbelievable. You're soft, Alex.
You've got to get better material.
You've got to make up some stuff.
The New World Order, it's all real.
It's frightening.
alex jones
Well, here's the issue, and you're right.
Actually, a lot of conspiracy theorists do start getting into the Earth is hollow and has space aliens in it, and Alex Jones is a reptoid, because all the mainline stuff has been admitted now, so it doesn't have that shock value.
But no, I just go off the government documents.
I go off of what I'm aware of.
That's why now it's all mainstream news, because they're carrying their program out.
But because we planted all those seeds, and you and others valiantly did as well, now we're having a big effect.
And you're right.
I see articles about the government healthcare, the vaccines, message boards on mainline newspapers in Europe, in Texas, England.
And you're right, 9 out of 10 or more.
When you said 95%, that's more like it.
And people can go see this for themselves.
They're all awake.
They know.
And I think the eugenicists, just like with Hitler, you know, Hitler was a popular guy in 1936, 37, 38. Time magazine, you know, great guy.
Eugenics is great.
But as soon as you stand up to him, they collapse.
And I think that's starting to happen.
dr mayer eisenstein
But go ahead.
I just have to add all the companies that 30% of doctors, that was the report out of England where they're about to do it, but said they will not administer or take this swine flu vaccine.
But even more, 35% more said they weren't sure.
Which means only about 25% said they would do it.
Well, that's an F in every class I've been in.
Boy, I've been in a lot of classes in my life.
I think the public has gotten well informed.
I think there's so much material.
You have done, really, I want to commend you.
You've done an incredible job.
You have talked and talked until people say, hey, wait a minute, Alex may be telling us something that's real.
And so it's really exciting.
I'm really not that worried what's going to happen.
I've told all my families, 50% of the families who come to homeschool their children, so they have a little bit of protection.
I've told those who go to school, you may have to keep your children out of school.
So what?
Big deal.
What's going to happen?
They're going to end up at Harvard or Yale because the kids don't go to school like that.
They'll waste their time at school.
They'll end up at the top schools.
You know, I think that they're so afraid.
See, I tell you, Alex, conspiracy theory.
The vaccine manufacturers know that the vaccine doesn't work.
They know that.
They absolutely know.
It's never worked.
You pointed it out.
The swine flu in 1976.
alex jones
Well, you know, let me give you what I think their game plan is.
dr mayer eisenstein
They weren't worried about giving this swine flu vaccine in September.
When they knew that swine flu wasn't going to be an issue.
But now they're concerned it may be an issue and people may die from it.
I mean, that's not even a question.
So they couldn't give the vaccine in September.
And then the majority of the flu season is between September and the end of October.
That's when the people get sick and die.
After that, it tends to be milder no matter what.
They've got 50 years of history of this.
And so they realize that That when, this may be real, if they gave the vaccine in September, inoculated 300 million people in this country, and 100,000 people died, their whole vaccine program, with all the other childhood vaccines, could go down the drain.
So they took the vaccine that they had, they put it in storage, they said we can't come out with it until the end of October.
Now, John Haldren, Dr. John Haldren, not an MD, Not a medical doctor, but yet he's the director of the White House Office on Science and Technology Policy.
And he said, no, it is so imperative that you have to water it down and give it in the middle of September.
The drug companies now come back to him.
I'm not making this up.
And say, oh, we're happy to give you water down, because we'll tell you it most probably doesn't work.
So now we're covered either way.
We've made our money in September.
And if it doesn't work, we say, you see, we have to wait until we have the right amount.
And so that's the whole I mean, mercury is one of the most known toxins.
And now they're trying to back off and pretend it's not in the vaccine.
But it's not only Alex Jones or Sherry Tenpenny who's saying it.
The Wall Street Journal ran the article.
The New York Times ran the article.
the Washington Post, or I like to call the Washington Compost, you know.
You know, and so, you know, it's so out there.
You know, I think it becomes, Alex, one of these points where all these misinformed or non-thinkers You know, go along, go along.
You don't have to say, hey, wait a minute, I'm the next one to be put into the concentration camp.
You know, and I think, and I can tell you something that came out this morning, which is great because I heard you mention Mikey Adams, who's just fabulous.
He came out with a video.
Everyone's gone to YouTube.
Look at his video.
It says, don't inject me.
It's just great.
just you know and you know I think now they're less worried about the damage they can cause mercury and squalene both toxic chemicals.
Squalene has never been approved for use.
I mean they're more worried that they could lose Well, sir, I know three years ago you looked at the trials.
alex jones
I covered it.
I had other medical doctors on.
had families, women whose children had died on the show just in the trials with the HPV shot, the human papilloma Gardasil.
Right. And then now the FDA comes out last week and says, yeah, we may put a warning out.
dr mayer eisenstein
Well, you know, I think all of them are, But this one is more remarkable because you're dealing with teenage, young teenage girls, and so it becomes more dramatic.
If a 4-year-old or a 5-year-old dies, they can attribute it to something else, you know, asthma, bronchitis.
But when a healthy, good-looking teenager who's a cheerleader, who's 13, 14, or 15 years old, and those are the ones who have been dying because they're the ones who are getting the vaccines right now, you know, Stalin said it the best, the death of one person is a tragedy, the death of 10,000 is a statistic, and I think we've finally taken, you know what to do.
You know, I don't know.
You know, I don't know the answer, except Dr.
Mendelsohn back in the 70s just made the blanket statement after he was the national medical director of Head Start, which means he was the top pediatrician in the country when it came to the government program.
He made the statement, every single vaccine causes neurological damage.
And that was even before we knew about the mercury, before we knew about the aluminum.
And I think that everyone's got a piece of the puzzle, Alex.
And so to say it's only the mercury, or only the squalene, or the aluminum, or the aborted fetal tissue, you know, or the neomyster, streptomycin, which are all...
alex jones
So it's not just the adjuvants, it's the cocktail.
I had Dr. Ursula Blaylock on last week, the prestigious brain surgeon.
He said that...
Brains are looking different for people's ages, people don't have memory, that people are brain damaged.
And I want to talk to you as a medical doctor when we come back about that.
He said it's vaccines, it's the pesticides, it's the heavy metals in the foods, it's a cocktail.
But what is different today than 30, 40 years ago?
Dr. Meyer Eisenstein, prestigious doctor, huge practice.
We'll talk about how the Amish don't get autism.
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Because I know, from not just the White House Science Czar's own government policy book, Ecoscience, but from the United Nations Biological Diversity Assessment, 89-96, from the State Department of Random 200, the Royal Commission on Population, 49-96, It's just amazing stuff that it is eugenics.
That it's cold-blooded, they see us as animals, and they're carrying this out.
And I know these vaccines are killing people, but as Dr. Eisenstein just said, the little-known secret is that these vaccines don't work.
Even if you believe they work, they never get the mutation right.
Doc, you want to explain that to people?
dr mayer eisenstein
Well, it's not only the swine flu, because in 1976 we had the best experiment on vaccines ever.
That was when Gerald Ford, President Gerald Ford, felt that we were going to have a swine The inoculation of every single American.
Well, they got through about 15 or 20 percent, and this ran for about five or six weeks.
And all of a sudden they realized they were people dying from the vaccine, but no one was dying from the swine flu.
And so what they did is they immediately ended the program.
They claimed only 40 or 50 people died, but Alex, I can guarantee you without knowing the actual data, if 40 or 50 people died, they wouldn't have stopped the program.
Yes. Yes
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30 years.
alex jones
Well, yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
And the doctor, being honest, was citing internal CDC reports, so they know.
dr mayer eisenstein
Right. Exactly.
And so we already know in 1976 that this flu vaccine doesn't work.
But it's more than just a flu vaccine.
When you take a look, and no one's better than Dr.
Sherry Tenpenny.
I mean, she is just the best researcher.
I'm not sure I've ever in my life met.
I mean, she gets every look, because she's so gentle-looking, Alex, that everyone is willing to give her the data, thinking that she's not as radical as she is.
And you take a look at her books, and you take a look at her writing, and you take a look at the data, and what does the data show?
There is one disease that a vaccine has really caused to be eliminated.
And if you start with a disease that we don't have a vaccine, tuberculosis, why doesn't Yellow fever, plague, cholera.
We don't have vaccines for these.
All these diseases were very rampant a hundred years ago.
They don't exist anymore.
And then when you look at the charts, like polio, diphtheria, tetanus, whooping cough, and you take a look, the disappearance of these diseases was almost, it just kept going from 80 years ago, there was a lot of these diseases, and now less and less.
Then the vaccine comes in.
The vaccine should change the curve.
It should drop right down.
It doesn't.
It continues at the same curve.
So you take the tuberculosis curve, no vaccine.
alex jones
Let me stop you because I'm aware of the Australian, US, British, Canadian data.
The graphs can all be superimposed.
I should even dig one up online and post it.
Because of indoor plumbing, because of sanitation, because of better nutrition, you see starting a hundred years ago a massive plunge In all these diseases, then vaccines worldwide become popular and the diseases actually across the board start going back up, proving that these are hurting people's immune systems, causing problems.
I'm not stealing your thunder.
dr mayer eisenstein
No, you're not.
alex jones
It's just you're moving quickly.
It is conclusive and that's why the eugenicists want to shoot you up, the evidence shows, is because they believe they're naturally coming in To reapply diseases that hand-washing and better nutrition and running water have gotten rid of.
Go ahead, sir.
dr mayer eisenstein
Well, you know, let me tell you, you are 100% right.
But here's what's happened.
There's not a lot of treatment for many of these diseases that we mentioned.
And so they have to come up with a real scheme.
And that is, how do we create chronic illness, arthritis, cancer, heart disease, where people will live for a substantial amount of time and will have to take drugs And by the way, you said that in books years ago and on this show.
alex jones
Now we have mainstream news reporting in laboratory tests that it's giving the rats they give the vaccines to chronic, hardcore arthritis.
We'll be right back and talk about that with Dr. Eisenstein.
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And it's amazing research.
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It will be up in the next two hours or so, but world premiere coming up at the bottom of the next hour.
So exactly, exactly one hour from now, or 59 minutes if you want to get technical.
We'll play that here.
I've got a bunch of other news I want to go over.
I know we have Donna and Bill and Gene and Pat, and I don't want to hang up on these callers, but you were here before we got Dr. Eisenstein on.
You can either change your question to him about the flu or the New World Order or eugenics or call back another day.
I'm going to give the number out.
1-800-259-9231.
Now, doctor, you're a humble guy.
You're one of the leading experts on this because the government likes to cover up their own studies, their own tests.
Big Pharma does, or take the aspartame trials.
It killed almost all the rhesus monkeys that they gave it to, but then they use that data by removing the dead monkeys to say, get it approved.
You know, they play all sorts of games.
You're a leading expert because you have one of the biggest practices in the country.
I mean, you're quite the productive person.
Not just, you know, do you have a medical examiner's license, or are you a lawyer, or multiple medical degrees.
You've got a huge, huge practice of homeschoolers, regular folks, and then you also watch the Amish and know them.
Tell folks, well, finish your point about how the vaccines don't work, and then let's get into just the evidence.
Right there that you see public schools where some schools, a third of the school, have got neurological disorders, supposedly, or their brains have been rotted by the vaccines and other chemicals.
And meanwhile, the Amish, you don't ever see that.
You don't see autism.
dr mayer eisenstein
That's exactly right.
I didn't even really know that one way or the other until Dan Olmsted, who was at the time a senior medical writer for United Press International, he came to Chicago, and he heard about our practice.
You know Alex, it's not only me.
Dr. Rosy, Dr. Shantauer, Dr. Zammhagen, and 20 other doctors have worked with me over the last 30 plus years.
And we've always had a practice that gave vaccine choice to families.
And you asked earlier, what's the difference from 35 years ago?
Well, 35 years ago they didn't give 58 vaccines to children in the first couple of years of life.
We gave 10 or 12. Still most probably problematic.
But the problem was, the pressure was today.
So Dan Olson comes to Chicago, he spends time with our practice, and talks to all the doctors, and he said, you know, where is the autism?
Show me the autism.
I said, you know, I want to know, Alex.
I barely knew what autism was.
I'd read about it in the textbooks, but that was about it.
Never saw a case, you know.
And we have been delivering babies at home.
That's mainly what we've done.
We're still continuing to do it.
And we're close to 20,000 babies alone that we deliver at home.
But here's the shift in our practice.
Yeah. Look,
Those people will say, oh, there's no real increase in autism.
We're just counting different.
Well, how do you count all you said so well, the neurological problems in school?
alex jones
I'm going to stop you right there.
I don't need to be a rocket scientist.
To know that when I went to see movies like Dumbo when I was a kid, or I went to take my sister, who's 14 years younger than me, you know, when I was in high school and college, I'd take her.
My parents would say, will you come over and babysit next week and take her to a movie?
You never saw autistic children.
I'm on the green belt.
I'm at the mall.
I take my kids every few months to a movie.
It's like two or three rows are in their autistic.
I mean, they are dead.
And the schools, and people say, oh, well, that's just false diagnosis.
Let me tell you, it's not false diagnosis when you're on the green belt and there's autistic kids running around screaming everywhere, completely out of their minds.
I mean, they're under chemical attack.
And we've seen autism rates go from, what, 1 in 25,000, 20-something years ago to 1 in 86 now.
The Fed's own numbers.
dr mayer eisenstein
That's the most severe case.
All this has to be looked at the same thing.
Yes. Sure.
And they have a great definition, two emergency room visits in one year for any respiratory illness or one hospitalization.
So you can't say one person is doing one thing, one person is doing another thing.
And they wanted to know, Alex, you're going to have to hear this.
bob chapman
This is very fascinating.
dr mayer eisenstein
So I go to the meeting there at Blue Cross, and they said to me, Doc, why do you have such low rates?
I said, well, we're the best doctors in the world.
He said, come on, tell us the truth.
So I said, why don't you tell me what you think?
Because they have all the records there from all the HMO patients.
None of these children are vaccinated.
How incredible.
That was frightening.
That's when I realized that Alex Jones not only is right, not only has had an impact on the country, You know, but this is, this is not conspiracy theory.
This is overt now.
alex jones
Well, that's what's crazy about this.
Why would these corporate minions who aren't part of that upper crust of eugenicist, why would anybody want to do this?
I mean, I've been on vacation.
I've been at the mall.
I've been at the grocery store and you'll see an autistic child, you know, 10 years old in diapers.
And I'm not obnoxious about it.
I want to know.
And I walk over and I say, When did your child become autistic, and they always say?
dr mayer eisenstein
After a vaccine.
alex jones
18 months old, third round of shots, he was running around, talking, singing.
Now he...
Now he does this, and the child's...
And, I mean, it's, it's, it's...
And then I read about how when your kid has the convulsion that night, they didn't send the police to arrest you, because they do a CAT scan and see the brain swelling and say you shook your kid's head, when you're a medical doctor and have countless others on, Clearly they know the mercury and the squalene is causing an autoimmune response and making the brain swell.
So then they don't just brain damage your kid with a chemical lobotomy.
Now they're going to arrest you for it, too.
dr mayer eisenstein
Well, you know, let me tell you, Alex, do you think everyone in Germany were Nazis?
Every one of the people, every one of the Germans.
But, you know, there's a point that the more so-called, quote, intellectual a society becomes, and I put that word in quotes, not smart.
You know, they all of a sudden defer to the experts, defer to the experts, and they stop thinking, and then their brain goes soft.
And all of a sudden, you can't imagine that all these experts are wrong.
You know, and it doesn't take very many.
And that's what you said.
They're a paper tiger.
They're a blessed paper tiger.
And I think what's happening now, just like at the town hall meetings, Alex Jones hired and spent money to hire all these people to go to town hall meetings.
I don't think so.
You didn't hire the 80-year-old woman who was a man.
It's It's all the same, you know, but it's not working anymore, and that's the problem.
All of a sudden, it's not working.
They no longer can just say it, and that's true.
Chicago politics at its best.
Just say it enough, say the lie enough times, and people will believe it.
I mean, I think that it's just so out of control, and I wanted to know that autism, of all the things in my 30-plus years in medicine, I've never seen anything as devastating to a family.
Cancer, nothing compared to it.
Heart disease, nothing.
The parents have no life.
No life.
And these are the most brave parents in the world who take care of these children.
You know, something, I was at a conference in California last week, an autism conference, and I realized something I hadn't realized before.
I'd never met both a husband and a wife together, because one of us was always at home taking care of their child.
How sad is that, you know, that you can't administer, hand over the care to somebody else?
alex jones
That's how difficult it is.
The child is in a prison, and the parents are in a prison, and it doesn't have to be this way.
But then on top of it, but going back to the Amish, I mean, you're right, this has been even picked up in national news, that you don't have these autistic children with the Amish.
You don't have these high rates of cancer.
You don't have these rates of the asthma.
From your medical research and the other research you've gone over, what is it doing?
I mean, from the other doctors we've had on, That's an oversimplification.
dr mayer eisenstein
I'm kind of an old timer.
I'm a prime general practitioner, that's what I'm like, you know.
And I'm pretty good, as my wife says it, when I hear the truth, I seem to know it.
When Dr. Mendelson said it over 30 years ago, every vaccine causes neurological damage.
And then you've got the brilliant people like Dr. Blaylock and Dr. Boyd Haley, who now give you the reason why it's causing it.
We see it!
Every Alex Jones, and there aren't very many of you, who goes to the mall, sees it!
All they're doing is giving you why it's happening.
I haven't made a statement, Alex, now for more than three years.
There is no autism in our country.
I use the word virtually, because I don't know every single family.
I mean, some may have left, may have moved to California.
I have yet to get one letter.
And boy, do I get a lot of hate emails.
Hate emails at times.
You know, when I talk about Obamacare, it's not for this doctor.
My God, I got people sending me back emails.
You better apologize.
He's our president.
He's not my president.
alex jones
I didn't vote for him.
They love to now say you can't even criticize him.
Well, I mean, the issue is, I've read over the three different bills, and everything people say is in there is in there and more, and we've shown the subsections, and they use this big lie, like they say, we haven't introduced any anti-gun bills.
They've introduced all these horrible ones, we've listed them.
They say, oh, that's not in there.
And then, you know, all this government control, all this rationing of care, that's the European model.
We know, but also forcing more vaccines, more drugs.
We know that that's all in there, but I also watch CNN and these other channels.
They keep showing, I just am broke, and I don't have money for my illness, and I need the free health care.
They don't explain that it's only going to bankrupt things more, and that government isn't going to give you that health care.
They're going to take money out of your paycheck, and then give you an aspirin for a heart attack.
I mean, but again, they're selling This is the most gracious country in the world.
dr mayer eisenstein
God bless America.
My father came from Poland.
He lived in Russia.
He was a rabbi.
He was a good businessman.
Came to America.
My dad spoke nine languages.
And he said, He's traveled the whole world.
When he came to America, I was a year old when he came to America, it was after the war, and every morning he got up and said, God bless America.
There is no country more gracious that will take care of people.
Everyone's taken care of in this country.
Mr. President, you don't know what the blessed heck you're talking about.
If you, God forbid, you know, have an injury, you go to any emergency room, they take care of you.
That bill isn't passed on to someone else.
alex jones
My dad's a physician, and he says they were taught in medical school, they were taught that's what you do, that about 20-30% of your practice is supposed to be free.
And then now, under this Obamacare, it actually takes that liability off the hospitals, off the doctors, and off the insurance companies, and then you get government care.
The government says they can't even read the 1300-page bill.
They're going to now practice medicine, and then Obama gives these speeches where he says what test you need, and he's now Dr. Obama?
dr mayer eisenstein
Yeah, I know.
Let me tell you something.
There are a couple of doctors in Congress and in the Senate, and every one of them is against this, Republican or Democrat.
I find that very fascinating, you know.
But, you know, I think you're right, Alex.
I think they're seeing through it, and so your message is coming through it.
Really, God bless you, what you've been doing.
You know, it's been just incredible because, you know, who would have thought that two or three years ago, you know, that, I mean, it's just absolutely amazing.
But I can tell you, going back to the vaccine issues, what can we do?
Because we don't have to bury our head in the sand right now.
There are some very simple, simple treatments.
Just washing the hands is nonsense.
You know, what are you supposed to tell, you know, don't kiss anyone, don't shake your hand, wash your hands.
This is nonsense!
Because, you know, I mean, it's clearly good hygiene before you sit down to eat to wash your hands.
I mean, that's, but this business, what they're talking about is image without substance.
And I can tell you that there's enough evidence that vitamin D has made a difference.
We looked at the 1918 Spanish flu, and the most interesting thing were the sailors.
We were at war, remember, 1918.
The sailors on the ship had the lowest mortality from the Spanish flu.
The soldiers in the barracks and in the foxholes had the highest mortality.
Say again?
More sun, more sun.
And if not, get a little bit of vitamin D. I mean, it's inexpensive, it's cheap.
You know, no one can make a big living selling it.
You know, you want your vitamin D. You want to get your vitamin D levels up.
Right. My grandmother used to tell me, Alex, when I'd be sitting here with my husband, what are you doing in the house?
It's beautiful.
get outside you know get over the fun i want to know how powerful this message is you know there's been 35 years of deception by the american academy of dermatology thank the scum son will give you skin cancer well that's true how can we have more skin cancer now than ever and no one's in the sun well i'll tell you why just what you said sunscreen they've got chemicals and poison just as bad as the vaccine no one should be taking sunscreen you know i'll
It's almost pure aluminum!
alex jones
It's incredible.
We're meant to get sun.
It's what our whole body drives on.
All the studies in Northern Europe with the highest rates of suicide.
By law, they stick sun lamps in.
Suicide rate plunges because our eyes are meant to get sun.
We are meant to get sun.
And yes, we're meant for our skin to get spots on it and get old.
I mean, this is what we're designed.
We live on a planet.
Northern Europeans have white skin, so they get more.
Because you have less sun in the north.
You want the sun.
You need the sun.
It's good.
dr mayer eisenstein
That's exactly right, you know.
And I'm giving a paper in December, I'm presenting a paper at the American Academy of Anti-Aging, and the topic is, um, low vitamin D levels, the root cause of cancer.
There's enough evidence that that's most probably true.
No longer conspiracy theory.
Already people are believing it.
alex jones
Imagine the conspiracy theory.
It's like when I see ads for grass-fed beef.
It's like bizarre to feed cows grass instead of dead cows.
And it's bizarre to go, oh, we're supposed to get sun.
Or, wow, global warming's good.
It's caused by the sun.
The sun.
Imagine it.
It's the source of life.
Doctor, stay there.
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Well, I'm really honored to have Dr.
Eisenstein with us.
He'll be with us a little bit in the next hour.
We've got the world premiere of Barmas'new film, the trailer of that as well.
I meant to have our first trailer out.
Dr. Eisenstein, what do you see happening?
them because I agree with you.
This is all a fluid situation that so much came out on Gardasil killing people.
So much has come out on autism that they're now trying this big flu hysteria as a cover for federal Exactly. I think you're right on point.
dr mayer eisenstein
I mean, you're right on point.
It's not even theory anymore.
alex jones
so so really they're playing the game from twenty years ago but we've you and i many others will come folks out the great listeners out And so now, I saw them go from saying they had 195 million doses to 40 million dosages, and I'm not saying we've had victory, because they may keep going, but it does look like we're seeing them start to pull back.
dr mayer eisenstein
I think there's no question about it, you know.
And so, they're applying as much scare tactics as possible.
90,000 will die.
It's possible!
It's possible 90,000 will die.
I don't think it's out of the question.
You know, but once again, The answer isn't going to be the...
You know, it's just like Gardasil.
Let's go back here for a minute.
There's a serious problem.
What the problem is that there's no question about it that promiscuity among young children, among teenagers, is the cause of sexually transmitted disease.
Until we say that out loud, it's not going to stop.
And all we do is give it different names.
Before it used to be called syphilis and gonorrhea, then it changed to herpes, then it became AIDS.
And now they're talking about, you know, and so all they're doing is giving fancy names, because we're so politically correct, we're not allowed to say, if you have sexual relations, you know, outside of marriage, or, and I'm not trying to be this, you know, religious type person.
alex jones
No, the point is, it's dangerous behavior.
You're going to get burned.
This is serious, serious business.
And so they give you a vaccine, which they admit on the insert doesn't even protect you from the human papillomavirus, all the hundreds of strains, and then it kills a bunch of people.
dr mayer eisenstein
And let me tell you something, my senior partner, Dr. Rosie, who's been with me for more than 25 years, calls all these, the Gardasil, the Hepatitis B vaccine, the safe sex vaccine.
What is the message we're giving?
We got such great vaccines.
You can go and have sex with everyone after you get this vaccine.
I mean, that's the message, you know.
I mean, what a message.
And all of a sudden people say, wait a minute, that's not a very good message.
And it's no different here than the The flu vaccine and the whole vaccine program, you know, I think people are wising up and that's the worst thing.
You know what it is?
It's not as much wising up, they're having the courage to say, you know, Alex may be right.
He may not be that crazy lunatic who's talking about that we need our guns and we need our rights.
Maybe there is a constitution still, you know.
This is America and my dad right now is not rolling over to his grave.
He is saying, you know, the people You know what?
Live another day.
alex jones
The point is we're in the fight, we're not rolling over to tyranny.
I want to come back and take some phone calls, but I want to encourage all the viewers and listeners, don't vaccinate before you educate.
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We are joined by John Perkins, best-selling, New York Times number one best-selling, Confessions of an Economic Hitman.
He's got his part two vaunted hoodwinked about to come out in the next few months, already on pre-sale, I'm told.
Guaranteed to be another bestseller, probably number one again.
And by the way, he is, in my upcoming film, Fall of the Republic.
So we're going to be, and that's a film all about the economy and what these big corporate interests are doing.
It's bipartisan, looking at how both parties are controlled by the same interests.
So we're honored to have him with us for the next hour.
Coming up in 30 minutes, we're going to open the phone specifically on confessions of an economic hitman.
Most people know who John is, but It's always best maybe to have him just briefly recap what he did and then why he woke up and changed direction.
Mr. Perkins, great to have you here with us.
john perkins
Great to be with you, Alex.
Thanks for having me on.
Incidentally, I really enjoyed talking with your film crew.
You've got a great group of people.
alex jones
They are good guys.
Yeah, I think I sent Aaron Dykes and Rob Due out to see you out in Florida.
john perkins
Yeah, they were.
They're fantastic.
They're really good interviewers.
going to have a heck of a film.
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Oh, it looks great, too.
Great shot out your back window of the bay there.
Just wonderful.
Plus, you're a great interview to do.
You're even better in person than over the radio, which is hard to believe.
You're a smooth operator, John Perkins.
It's almost like you're an economic hitman.
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no but it did go well and that is exciting nutshell tell folks about yourself and get into hoodwinked Well, I was an economic hitman, and I think it's fair to say that we economic hitmen have created the world's first truly global empire.
john perkins
We've done it primarily without the military.
First time in history that's happened.
And we work many ways, but the most common is that we identify a third world country that I
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So, really exciting that your book has had such success, because when I can physically see people, you know, buying it off the shelf in front of me in seconds, it just must be amazing.
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Forgot this little best-seller.
The new one's coming out very, very soon, and that is Hoodwinked.
John Perkins, tell us specifically, then we'll get into all these other issues, about Hoodwinked, when it's coming out, what it covers.
john perkins
It comes out November 10th at Random House, and it's, you know, what really generated it was the current recession.
And my sense that all of the stuff that we're talking about, AIG, Wall Street, the bank, the auto industry, you know, try to deal with all of that as triage.
It's putting Band-Aids on wounds.
And we need the Band-Aids to a certain degree because there's a lot of hemorrhaging going on.
We've got to stop.
But what we really need to look at is the root cause beneath the system, beneath the surface.
And that is systemic.
And it's something that nobody's really looking at very hard.
To me, this is a mutant form of capitalism that's been going on for about the last 20 years.
Excuse me, 30 years.
And that's the real problem.
We must change that.
Sure, we need Band-Aids, but we need to go much, much deeper than that.
Capitalism's been around for about 400 years.
It's taken many, many different forms.
And in the last 30 years, really, since the time of Reagan, and this has happened under both Democrats and Republicans, but it really started with Reagan, it's taken this trend toward this very mutant, viral form of capitalism, which is extremely greedy and extremely special.
The form of capitalism that came out of Milton Friedman, the economist from the University of Chicago, and Reagan bought into it big time, and every president since has bought into it.
alex jones
Well, wasn't the coup de grace in 99 with the Glass-Steagall act that Bill Clinton got rid of?
john perkins
That was a big one.
There's no question about it, but that's just sort of like the frosting on the cake.
There was so much going on.
Yeah, actually, when I went to business school, I don't Yeah,
alex jones
now they allow over 30% that supposed credit card reform.
I mean, that's above loan sharking.
john perkins
Yeah, well, yeah, and that's way beyond...
The laws never would have permitted this before.
After the recession, we implemented usury laws that didn't permit that, but then those all changed.
There's actually some people paying 800% on their debt.
and people that have what we call the payday loans.
alex jones
You know, you can go in before you actually get your paycheck and get a loan on the expected paycheck and those are huge interest rates and they're Amazing. Well, the book is coming out on November 11th, correct, John?
john perkins
November 10th.
alex jones
Okay, so November 10th.
john perkins
Close enough.
alex jones
And we've got you scheduled for the 11th then, good.
Oh, good.
Fantastic. They just handed me a note saying he is scheduled for November 11th when it comes out, so my producer was wrong by one day, so it's coming out November 10th.
Now, I agree with a lot of what you have to say.
Later in the interview, I want to get into, you know, maybe somewhat of a debate about economic systems and choices, but I think what we agree on is this crony capitalist system, this mutant form of capitalism.
I just call it piracy.
I mean, if they can just create trillions in made-up derivatives and then have the central governments bail them out when they're using the money to then go loan it at loan-sharking rates to third-world countries, third-world people, the American people, I mean, that's sick!
We give them the government-backed loans, they then leverage it, fractional reserve it, and then we pay interest to the banks on our money they loan back to us.
I mean, is that a good way of boiling it down?
john perkins
That certainly is, and it is piracy, there's no question about it.
And we must turn it around, Alex, and that's really a large part of Foot Wing, is what we can do, what you and I and all your listeners can do.
We can take control of One of the things that we have to understand is that the big corporations, the banks and the other corporations that are behind this, are very beholden to us.
They only exist because we give them business.
We buy their goods and services or we allow our tax dollars and our government to go into that.
There are many ways to resist, and I think it's terribly important that we do that now.
We must turn this thing around.
You know, what we have to realize in all of this is that this economic crisis is basically telling us that we have a failed system, totally failed.
On a global basis.
Less than 5% of the world's population live in the United States.
We consume more than 25% of the world's resources.
That's a failure.
It's not a model that you can give to China or India or Latin America or Africa.
You'd need another 5 or 6 planets with all our resources and no people to be able to use this as a model for other people.
So what we're seeing is a totally failed system.
alex jones
And we must understand that for our sake, for our children's sake, and our grandchildren's sake, John Perkins, I want to get into that area because I agree with you on so much, but I also disagree with you in some areas because we know we do have a wasteful form of life, lifestyle.
We know we're 4% of the world's population in the U.S. and we use roughly half the world's resources.
And we know there's a lot of toxic waste associated with that and a lot of problems.
But the way I see government addressing that, and the big megacorporations addressing it, is by haunt showing and steering the environmental movement to simply set up new taxes and control to further vertically integrate the consolidation of power in this new phase of robber baron colonialism because they fundamentally know that there is a certain truth to what's happening to the environment on many And so
they wrap the truth around their overall lie of this new bank of the world, global government, paying carbon taxes to the new bank of the world.
I mean really it's going from the robber barons going in and economic hitmanning third world countries under their control to now just setting up a planetary regime under the environment.
Because they know at a base level that makes sense in people's ingrained humanity to be good stewards of the land.
john perkins
Well, absolutely.
And the way that they distort the truth and, you know, move groups.
So today we've got this huge grassroots movement basically supported by the insurance industry and the pharmaceutical industry opposing any kind of real insurance for people that don't have insurance.
We've got the corporations out there making it One amazing instance of this is what's just happened in Honduras,
where a democratically elected president was overthrown by a military regime that was under the control of the CIA and big American corporate interests, the big agribusinesses, Dole and Chiquita, Kraft Cargo, as well as the textile industry.
And yet, here in the United States, we're being told that this is And just to be clear,
alex jones
Obama came out day one a month ago and said, we're not involved, this is terrible, but now even mainstream media has come out and clearly shown private corporations, mercenaries, CIA front groups, jackals, hyenas that you call them, uh...
were clearly involved and did this and even dropped the president off at a costa rican u.s.
military base so i asked you during the break i said from what you've seen in the news is that accurate you said yes please elaborate on the difference between economic hitman versus jackals and hyenas and what really happened a month ago in honduras well economic hitman went into honduras originally tried to convince So
they're going to go from, what, 50 cents an hour to $1.10 or something?
john perkins
Exactly. It seems very minimal to us.
And also that there's a lot of sweatshops from our textile companies, you know, like Nike and other companies like that in there.
But it's much bigger than that because something similar happened with Aristide in Haiti.
And both Haiti and Honduras are looked at as the bottom rung on the ladder of wages in Latin America.
So no country will go below those countries.
So if, in fact, Honduras or Haiti increases their minimum wage, then Ecuador and Nicaragua and El Salvador and every other country in the southern hemisphere has to increase its wages to stay above those because no one wants to go below those countries.
So it wasn't just about Honduras any more than it was just about Haiti.
It was about drawing a line in the sand and saying, we are not going to permit this to happen.
And I think we have to understand that there's a revolution going on in Latin America.
Ten countries representing more than 80% of the population of South America have voted in in the last few years progressive presidents who are saying no more exploitation by these foreign corporations.
countries. And every one of these countries, Alex, during most of my lifetime was run by brutal dictators who were under the control of the CIA and big corporations.
That's all changed very, very recently.
And so the line in the sand now has been drawn in Honduras.
This is a fairly easy country to do it.
But this is trying to establish a whole new precedent saying, look, we're stopping this revolution right here.
And in stopping it, we're also going to undermine these other ten countries that have already voted in these presidents.
And the most American people don't have any idea that this is going on.
And our media has been very flack at informing us.
Other than you, if you want to...
alex jones
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If you let one ant stand up, they might all stand up.
And those little ants outnumber us a hundred to one.
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John, you specifically, all over Latin America, all over Asia, you were kind of the velvet glove, I would describe it from reading your book, and also reading other government documents about similar programs, going and trying to, you know, give them the carrot instead of the stick.
But when the stick goes in, what happens?
And in asking that question, I want to preface it with, obviously you know about Blackwater, Running hit teams, but the media has spun this saying oh just killing al-qaeda That's whoever they say al-qaeda is now it turns out.
It's business people political enemies business enemies of the White House Actual private merc teams we know Delta Force And other groups out of the Pentagon have done have engaged in murder But is this new to have private contractors doing it or are we now just learning about it because of the internet age?
john perkins
It's not new at all.
It's been going on for a long time.
Back in the 70s when I was an economic hitman, we used private contractors.
That's the way it's done.
You know, the old times of the 007, the government agent licensed to kill are long, long gone.
It's all done with private contractors.
It's coming out because Blackwater's coming out because, yeah, and as you said, the internet age is bringing it out.
Plus, I think what we're beginning to understand is that terrorism is an insane word.
This war on terror is ridiculous.
There's no terrorism out there.
There are people who practice terrorism, but from many different walks of life.
So the FARC members in Colombia have nothing in common with a Somali pirate or al-Qaeda.
And yet they're all lumped under this one ism.
alex jones
Is it the war on terror, John?
Just a global letter of marque?
By western governments to kill, steal, destroy, torture, murder, whoever you want, and anybody that resists you is called a terrorist?
john perkins
That's a great way to put it.
Yes, the letter of Martha is a great way to put it, Alex.
Yeah, you know, there was communism, and that truly existed.
There's Catholicism, there's all kinds of isms, but terrorism really isn't an ism.
You know, there's al-Qaedaism, there's FARCism, but they're totally separate.
And, yeah, this is just a way of making it sound as though we've got some huge enemy out there.
What we really get out there is a bunch of starving people, unhappy people, who latch on to fanatical leaders like Osama bin Laden because they don't know what else to do.
And they do it under FARC in Colombia.
I know a lot of the members of FARC, and I shouldn't say a lot.
I know some members of FARC.
These are farmers who were driven off their land by big hydroelectric projects or oil fields that destroyed their farming land.
They have no way to feed their families.
alex jones
I've actually found in my research, a lot of times, Western powers and corporations will actually fund the radical group that is bloody and crooked.
As a way down the road to then successfully demonize the entire indigenous population, so they always push people towards the most radicalized, knowing down the road that will discredit the indigenous resistance.
john perkins
It discredits, you're right.
It does do that, and it also creates a huge economy for big military suppliers.
So here we've got this war on terrorism in Colombia.
Columbia is the fourth largest recipient of U.S.
military aid in the world, largest in Latin America, but is fourth behind Iraq, Israel, and Egypt.
Fancy that, to fight...
What we're saying are narco-traffickers.
It's absurd.
We're creating a war there, basically, so we can put military bases there, and we can supply huge amounts of military equipment to this country.
So we give them the money under the understanding that they'll buy back equipment from us and allow us to have military bases there.
Yeah, you know, this goes back to the opium wars of the British Empire in China and India.
It's a very, very old tale, and we're just continuing to do it, and fortunately, We're going to go to break in a moment.
alex jones
Long segment coming up and we're going to get more into that and also one of the new constitutions in Ecuador.
But did you see the...
I'll ask the question now, we'll come back and you can answer it.
Ridge, fellow cabinet members pushed terror alerts.
Now, we know Ari Fleischer, back in 2003, admitted they were issuing fake terror alerts at a press conference.
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He never said why, but I was guessing at this.
And that he didn't want to get in trouble down the road as if he was involved.
Now that's what Ridge is saying, that he's coming clean because he doesn't want to get in trouble.
And the news is saying this is clearly criminal to issue fake terror alerts just for political gain.
So talk about stage crises.
How do these big corporations and governments use stage crises to get the job done?
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Again, previously he wrote The Secret History of the American Empire.
And of course, confessions of an economic hitman.
You heard me throw out that question as more and more comes out.
I mean, Cheney ordering private hit teams and Delta Force hit teams to murder his enemies overseas, corporate enemies overseas.
Ridge being ordered to issue fake terror alerts.
And Obama is saying, no investigation of torture, no investigation of Blackwater.
No investigation of any of this.
Or he'll do the corporate tactic of saying, I'm looking at it, but then not do it.
He's keeping the continual secret arrest, indefinite detention.
Can you speak to prosecuting or at least investigating Bush?
Or can we just, I guess, let him get away with it?
I mean, what does this do precedent-wise to let them get away with Blackwater and underage girls and all the rest of it.
I mean, is there no...
And if we put up with this level of evil, what comes next?
john perkins
You're exactly right.
We mustn't.
I mean, we mustn't put up with it.
I think we, the people, must really speak out.
My own belief, you know, I think Obama's in a very difficult spot.
Obviously, I'm not privy to what's going on with him.
not a psychologist.
But he has to know that Kennedy was assassinated.
Two Kennedys were assassinated.
And U.S.
presidents get assassinated, too.
It isn't just foreign presidents.
And once you're in that White House, I think, I think you begin to see things that you never saw before.
I suspect Obama is getting tremendous amounts of pressure put on him.
It's one of the reasons he's been caving into so many things.
You know, his own attorney general, Eric Holder, was a partner at a law firm called Covington & Berlin, LLT.
This law firm defended Chiquita, the big banana company that's now the big company in Honduras.
Chiquita was accused of hiring assassination squads in Colombia.
And their main defender was an attorney named Eric Holder, who's now our attorney general.
alex jones
Is that United Fruit?
dr mayer eisenstein
Chiquita. What was Chiquita formula?
alex jones
Was it Standard Fruit or United Fruit?
john perkins
Yeah, Chiquita was United Fruit at one time.
alex jones
So that's the famous folks then overthrowing on record Guatemala.
john perkins
They are friends of Guatemala, yes.
alex jones
So same story over and over.
Okay, sorry for interrupting.
john perkins
Same story.
Chiquita incidentally was found guilty of hiring assassination squads in Colombia.
In fact, it admitted that it had paid organizations listed by the U.S.
government as terrorist groups for protection and paid a $25 million fine in 2004.
Eric Holder, our current attorney general, was their main defender then, and now he's defending the actions of the coup that overthrew the Democratic elected president of Honduras.
It's just another instance, Alex, of how ingrained all of this is in all of our governments, whether we have Democrats in there, including the most liberal Democrat we've had, the current one, Obama, or whether we have conservative Republicans like Bush.
The real people in control are the big corporations.
And they really run the system.
We're seeing this over and over and over again.
And so you've got guys like Cheney, you've got guys like all the cabinet members you mentioned earlier, who now are trying not to be found guilty of being involved in assassination attempts.
But the fact of the matter is, all these people at the top of government came out of the big corporations.
It's a revolving door thing.
And so whether it's Democrats or Republicans, you've got people that are constantly at the top.
I call it the corporatocracy.
alex jones
Sure. Because whether they're working for the government or whether they're working for private corporations I saw him getting four-plus times the money that McCain got.
I wasn't supporting McCain either.
I just was clear he was the anointed one.
But I do have to give credit when I do occasionally see it.
Panetta did scurry over immediately to Congress within days of getting in and said, look, they just admitted to me they've got all these head squads.
So at least he did that.
But was that him covering his butt?
Because then you bring up Well, you know, again, I don't have any inside information on Obama's personality or those people around him, but my suspicion is that he's probably a guy with a conscience.
john perkins
Who would like to do the right thing, and so would many of his people, but you get caught in the system, and once you're in, it's extremely scary.
And what are you going to do?
How are you going to fight the CIA?
How are you going to fight the military?
So you try to do whatever you can on whatever front you can.
I've seen this happen time and time again with Latin American presidents who want to do the right things, but realize that if they get thrown out or if they get assassinated, that's And you try to do what you can.
In the case of a guy like Obama, he's tried to institute some environmental laws that are decent, and he's tried to do things with health insurance, but he keeps running up against very, very powerful forces of resistance.
And so it comes down to us.
We have to speak out a lot more.
We have to do a lot more.
We the people.
We have to stand up to corporations and say, listen, I'm not buying from Dole or Chiquita.
And send them emails and tell them, we're never buying another one of your bananas or pineapples because of what you're doing in Honduras.
You change your ways, or we're going to force you to go out of business.
And I'll tell you what, if enough of us do that, they'll have to change their ways.
alex jones
I do agree with you that responsible Consumerism is one of the strongest tools we've got.
That's why these monopoly men want to create nothing but cartels where we don't even have a choice.
But, I mean, just take ten years ago.
You couldn't find organic, even in Austin or San Francisco.
It was hard to get.
Now, organics, even in small towns, because people demanded it and then built a market, buying local is getting bigger and bigger.
john perkins
And we've gotten, because companies, they trans-passed a lot of foods recently, and, you know, we've We've got companies to clean up terribly polluted rivers.
We have a lot of power when we use it.
I think we need to understand that it's always come from we, the people.
We didn't get rid of slavery in this country because Abraham Lincoln found himself in the White House.
We got rid of slavery because we voted in a president, Lincoln, who was opposed to slavery.
Women didn't get the right to vote because Woodrow Wilson was pro-suffrage.
He was not.
Women got the right to vote because they'd been demonstrating for it for a long time.
And then when Wilson was president, he constantly was out on the road speaking about how we needed to get involved in World War I, how we needed to defend democracy in Europe.
Women met him at every place he went holding up huge placards that said, why should we defend democracy in Europe when half of our population in the United States can't vote?
So finally, Woodrow Wilson came around.
We didn't get out of Vietnam because Richard Nixon was anti-war.
He was pro-war.
He had to take us out of it because he understood that we the people were not going to
alex jones
John, I agree with you on that front, and I believe you're coming at this from a good perspective, that you're a good guy, that you have changed your ways.
I just think it's also important to realize that just trying to do the right thing isn't enough.
We have to make sure we're not part of the fake corporate clone or counterfeit where they try to get control of our grassroots movements and then say use environmental laws to take farms and ranches or restrict people. Take Austin.
I've watched them with smart growth take farms and ranches, not let people build on it.
And then 10 years later, they build shopping malls on it and skyscrapers.
So I also see the environmental movement run by the big banks, by the very economic pirate ships, you know, these corporations bigger than most governments.
And so, yes, I know there's real environmental problems.
I don't want to drink poison water.
I don't want to drink poison air, breathe poison air.
I don't want to cut down rainforest.
I don't want to, you know, live off the backs of starving people in Peru.
But at the same time, It's a big job to navigate this and try to figure out what's real and what isn't and how do you not get co-opted.
I mean, because it sounds great to take Ecuador and say they have a constitution saying that they're going to give trees and animals rights, but then I always see that Well, you're right about that,
john perkins
but yeah.
But, you know, I think that we can see beyond a great deal of that.
We can see that there They're using their powers and abusing it.
We can see this in the way they take care of themselves.
I do a lot of speaking at business schools these days, which I find ironic that business schools even invite me to speak.
I wrote a book called Confessions of an Economic Kid, man.
But the kids in these business schools, many of them are really interested in some of these subjects.
And one of the things I keep running into is some of the icons that are held out there.
A guy named Jack Welch, who was CEO of General Electric, is held out as this great icon because he made his corporation lean and mean, Which means he laid off a quarter of GE's people, put them out on the street, but at the same time he paid himself huge bonuses and salary increases.
And he also took GE away from manufacturing things good, being a manufacturing firm, into being a financial paper trading firm, which is one of the things that drove us into the financial crisis.
alex jones
Yeah, it's engaged in derivatives, that's right.
john perkins
How do we, yeah, so how do we hold a guy like that out as an icon in our business schools?
We should not.
And I think if we really open our hearts to these things, we understand that.
You understand it, Alex.
I understand it.
We've got to turn this thing.
I totally agree with you.
alex jones
In fact, I talk so much about the map-making of the mind or blueprints in the mind, how the establishment builds these, and I'm not saying Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods Well,
humanitarians and people that stood up against corruption and so the establishment very cunningly took our real heroes away and gave us heroes of no consequence that's true. And we don't need to let that happen anymore.
john perkins
Yeah, you mentioned Tiger Woods, for example.
My God, you know?
Here's a guy that's making, I don't know what he's making this year, $40 million off Nike or whatever.
Meanwhile, Nike's paying...
alex jones
No, he's paid $109 million.
john perkins
$109? Well, meanwhile, Nike's paying its workers in Indonesia that make all the things that Michael Jordan is advertising, sub-living standard wages.
These people are living almost like slaves, and that's well documented.
So, you know, why doesn't Tiger Woods, if he wants to be our hero, I'm not going to let Nike get away with it anymore.
I'm going to speak out, or I'm going to advertise some other company, and I'll do it for free, some company that's paying their share.
alex jones
That would revolutionize the world, but see, Tiger Woods, the only reason I know about this is I've looked into him, and I heard the number on the radio, on Fox News Radio, they announced his hundred plus million dollar contract, and that's just Nike, not counting this watch, and that shirt,
and I guess all of us have to not buy it while they do that, but Tiger Woods has been interviewed how he isn't involved in any politics, in any policies, in any charities, really, except for some charity for college dealing with golf.
He thinks it's a moral thing that he's not involved.
He thinks it's like a good thing and the corporations just worship him because he is cold-blooded.
And I can't imagine having a hundred million dollars a year based on people dying of diseases in sweatshops, in these horrible malaria-infested camps, and maquiladoras.
I mean, and I'm not some goody-two-shoe.
I mean, I'm a pretty hard-nosed guy, but yeah, Tiger Woods could become a mega icon.
His life would have real value.
Instead, it's this hollow crap of hitting a golf ball.
You're absolutely right, John.
It's sickening.
john perkins
Well, yeah, and then ultimately, You know, who buys the magazines?
Who buys into this?
Who watches it on television?
We do.
And so it's time that we stopped doing that.
It's time that we took back control.
And this is where it really belongs, Alex, is that we, the people, have to recognize that we have responsibilities.
And if we want a country of, by, and for the people, instead of one that's us, And do something about it.
I think that's what you're calling for all the time.
So, it's one of the reasons I love being on your show.
alex jones
Thank you.
john perkins
You're inspiring and empowering people to do that.
We need to do it more and more and more because it's always been the way that change has happened.
alex jones
I agree, but John, what would you call that corporate attitude?
I don't know the word for it.
Where they get off on being cold-blooded.
They get off on not caring.
They think it's silly.
I mean, that's a very...
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That's sociopathic.
alex jones
Yeah, sociopathic.
john perkins
And, you know, I think that at the top of a number of our corporations, we do have sociopath people who have basically no conscience, that don't care about what harm they bring to others.
I think Jack Welch was a person like that, and I think, yeah, I think Phil Heide is.
But throughout the rest of the corporation, most of the other managers and people are not, and those are the ones we need to get to.
alex jones
Well, absolutely, but I mean, also we destroy our own world, not just environmentally, but culturally.
This attitude, I see the local yuppies mimic it, and they're into laughing at bad things happening, as if it doesn't touch them, when their kids are going to end up committing suicide or on drugs in this sick society.
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alex jones
Me and John were just talking about all the websites and groups we can find out about the sweatshop free clothes and products that are becoming more and more popular.
And it's those little choices that you think are little that really add up to big things.
And then I hear these arguments about, oh, if there's not a sweatshop, they wouldn't have any job.
No. In every study I've seen, and Ross Perot covered this in the mid-90s, it made the standard of living in Mexico go down, standard of living in Brazil go down, standard of living in Indonesia go down.
It makes it go down.
It does not make it go up.
And it makes our standard go down.
It's just, this globalization, the way they're doing it is killing everything.
Rusty in Texas, you're on the air with John Perkins.
Go ahead.
Hello? Yes, go ahead.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
Thank you for taking my call.
I just took Texas government this last year and they talked about this thing called creative destruction.
And creative destruction is supposed to be like a business gets so big that eventually it collapses within itself and goes broke.
Or the people quit buying the products because they just get tired of it.
But I don't see how it can be fair to go and bail these companies out, basically giving them a new deal.
Because capitalism itself is like a live-and-let-die kind of way of living, you know, because one man's loss is another man's gain.
alex jones
No, I hear you.
Let me get a quick comment from John Perkins, and I would just briefly say, this is crony capitalism, and it's been said many times, where the risk is socialized, the profit Yeah, no, I totally agree with you.
john perkins
That's why I say it's what I'm calling a mutant form of capitalism where it's all balanced in favor of a few very, very wealthy and powerful people.
unidentified
But we need to turn that around and we can do that.
alex jones
Yeah. Well, we better, because they're just feeding the whole world into their debt black hole.
Ronnie in Texas, go ahead, you're on the air with John Perkins.
Upcoming book?
Hoodwinked, go ahead.
ron in texas
Perkins, I lived for nine months in poverty-ridden Peru under U.S.
puppet Toledo, and it dawned on me there that would not absolute freedom, and I'm asking you, absolute freedom worldwide for farmers help cancel all continually counterproductive wars on behalf of illegal drug warlords that were waging in Mexico, Colombia, Peru, Afghanistan, all over the world.
alex jones
You're asking, how is the phony drug war?
Boy, I loved watching General Myers on TV last night explain how the occupation had made the opium production go way up.
That's a good final comment from John Perkins.
John?
john perkins
Yeah, I mean the farmers around the world have really been hit hard.
They've been hit hard by what we call free trade agreements, where, you know, it's absurd today that a Mexican farmer can produce cotton a lot more cheaply than a U.S.
farmer. But you can buy U.S.-produced cotton in Mexico for a lot less of a price than Mexican cotton simply because it's so subsidized in the United States for the big industry that this has hurt the small farmer time and time again, whether it's cotton or corn or soybeans or whatever it is, the small farmer.
Yeah, in Mexico, they'll just let you go die.
alex jones
In Mexico City, just die in your hut.
No welfare system.
It's just hellish.
Well, the new book's coming out, and we're going to interview you the day after it comes out, November 11th, coming up in a month and a half or so.
John Perkins, best-selling author of Confessions of an Economic Hitman.
It was great having you on.
We'll talk to you again soon, my friend.
john perkins
My pleasure, Alex.
Keep up your good work.
alex jones
You, too.
Appreciate you being on with us.
Ladies and gentlemen, be sure and visit the video and bookstore for all my books and films at InfoWars.com.
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