Rachel Maddow and Alex Jones dissect the secretive C Street ministry, revealing its alleged ties to right-wing figures like Doug Coe, its historical links to Nazi whitewashing, and its promotion of a "Hitler Jesus" ideology admired by dictators. The discussion expands to conspiracy theories regarding Obama's birth, martial law preparations via riot gear orders, and claims that NGOs prioritize elderly deaths during pandemics, painting a picture of a shadowy network manipulating politics and public trust through unregistered lobbying and globalist control. [Automatically generated summary]
...and for other associates of C-Street, the secretive ministry and living quarters for several members of Congress, at which Governor Sanford and Senator John Enson of Nevada both received some sort of counseling during their extramarital affairs.
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Sea Street is also in the news anew because of something that happened on the House floor last week.
A member of Congress, one with ties to Sea Street, argued against public funding for abortion services by saying that if there were public funding for abortion, Barack Obama might have been aborted as a fetus.
Also, Clarence Thomas.
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Jeff Charlotte.
I've seen him on a lot of national TV programs and I read an article he wrote for the New York Times.
He is a New York Times best-selling author of The Family, The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power.
I actually saw an article about him in the New York Times.
And a contributing editor to Harper's and Rolling Stone, has been writing about the intersection of religion, politics, and culture for more than a decade.
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Yeah, exactly, whether they're acting like it or not.
Uh, you know, it began, I was, uh, several years ago, I was working on, uh, My first book, I was traveling around the country and spending time with unusual religious communities, and a friend of mine, worried that her brother had joined a cult, said, would you meet with him?
This was way back in 2011.
And so this guy came up.
I'd known him for 12 years, and frankly, he'd always been kind of a jerk.
But he had really turned his life around, despite the fact that he left his career, left his relationship to move to Washington and be of service to powerful people.
And he said, look, you won't understand it unless you see it.
And you can't get in unless you're invited.
And I said, well, how do I apply?
And he said, there are no applications.
There's just a family.
So I found it interesting to me, not as a believer, but just as a person who is interested about the variety of the religious experience, you might say.
So I went down and spent about a month living with these guys.
And I didn't know it was political at first, but then we had a visit from Senator Jesse Helms.
Well wait a minute, I mean this doesn't sound, and I'm not defending the group because I don't even know enough about it to even get its name right, but C Street, the family, C Street's the name, and obviously the house.
If it's such a cult, and I do agree it looks pretty culty, why did they just let you right in then?
You know, first of all, I actually say that they are not a cult.
I don't think they are cultish, but not a cult.
You know, because a cult has certain characteristics.
They are cultish.
They've got the cult of personality around their leader, Doug Coe.
But what they really believe, they really believe in the sort of networks of elites.
And so because I was invited, that's the only way you get in.
You get invited.
So because I was invited by this guy, that made me sort of okay.
And I think they were actually interested in the fact uh... that i'm a journal the writer because they saw me as an influence as someone who in uh... help spread the message so they but i had me into the house i've ever really wrote about the carper magazine if anyone's been out there being skeptical that all went through fact checking legal review never been disputed lived with these guys for a month okay but i mean they're pretty confident then about the way they operate the way they work to let a prominent journalist into their midst i wouldn't say i was prominent at that point
You know, they've been around for 70 years.
They do believe in secrecy.
The leader of the group, Doug Coe, says the more invisible you can make your organization, the more influence it will have.
I mean, uh, you know, there's a cult of personality around this guy Doug Coe, whom they sometimes call First Brother.
They say he has a special relationship with God, unparalleled by anyone else in the world.
Uh, and that, uh, also that the Inner Circle members, and here's where it gets really creepy when we're talking about Senator and Governor Sanford, guys linked to the group, The Inner Circle members are not bound by the same morality that applies to the rest of us.
The morality is a human construct, and God has a different story ready for these powerful men.
Now is this the same group that Ashcroft's part of?
Because I saw articles like four or five years ago about, and did some research, about Ashcroft, part of a house he lived at, and other people that were members.
I mean, is this the only group like this, or are you aware of others?
Okay, well I know I'm throwing a lot of points in here because over the years I've done research here, there, but you forget a lot more than you, you know.
Then you can actually comprehend, but I know there's all these weird secretive groups.
Did you ever run into any connections in this group with Masons, Masonic groups, or with Opus Dei Catholic groups, or with the CNP, Council on National Policy?
There's a lot of overlap with the CNP, guys like Ed Meese and various members like that.
But one of the most interesting connections I did find was Opus Dei.
And you might almost describe the family as kind of a Protestant Opus Dei, but they lack even the integrity of Opus Dei.
But they originally were very interested in working in Spain, working around the world.
The dictator for a long time, his name was Franco, and he was not interested in having any Protestant groups around.
Uh, until they made contact with the ministers of government, Opus Dei members, and then started building up a network of alliances.
From our research, I got to spend a lot of time with Senator Sam Roundback of Kansas, who has the unique distinction of being a member of the family and an associate of Opus Dei.
He converted to a very strange kind of Catholicism through Opus Dei's chapel, which, appropriately enough, actually is on K Street in Washington.
Okay, see, those are the questions I haven't seen asked on television.
I've read your articles over the years and haven't read your book yet, though we just got it.
And so I've got a piece here, a piece there, and I'm trying to delve more into the architecture of left-wing and right-wing groups.
Did you ever run into any connections to Bohemian Grove?
Because a lot of, quote, Christian conservatives that have these big public personas as Christian conservatives also go to the Grove that Richard Nixon described as a homosexual orgy.
I don't know about that part, but Doug Coe certainly is a long-time, Doug Coe, the leader of the group, is a long-time attendee.
And, you know, certainly we're talking about here, you know, guys like Ed Meese, former Attorney General Ashcroft, Senator Enst, and we're talking about the power elite.
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And this is just a bottomless pit of weirdness, but he's a great journalist, writes for Harper's.
And for the New York Times as well.
I saw an article in the New York Times, he writes for Harper's and Rolling Stone.
The reason I was bringing up Harper's is actually Harper's had the interview with Nixon when he was talking about the Bohemian Grove.
And so that was where my quote from that came.
Okay, you got the floor.
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You get to get inside there.
You've written articles about how it's not really Christian, though, From not wanting to stop abortion and saying we like Machiavelli, I'm going from memory here, but a lot of weird stuff.
What is it really?
Some type of strange intelligence front?
Because just in a snapshot, that's what it looks like to me.
They organize Abram Brady believes that he has a vision that God comes to him and speaks to him.
Tells him that Christianity has been getting it wrong for 2,000 years and any focus on the poor, the weak, the suffering, the down and out, That's not right.
What God wants him to be is a missionary to and for the powerful, the up-and-out, he calls them.
He begins organizing guys like Henry Ford and a group of congressmen.
He gets some businessmen together.
He starts out in the state of Washington.
They manage to elect a governor, and on that basis, they start going overseas.
They're involved with the whitewashing of Nazis after World War II, and then they start Excuse me?
You know, not only did God want them to serve the powerful instead of the powerless, but they began with this idea.
They were looking around the world in the 1930s, and they thought democracy was done.
They said democracy cannot compete with fascism and communism.
Well, communism was definitely not for them.
These were very wealthy businessmen.
And fascism looked pretty good.
But they didn't like it, or they didn't like Mussolini, so they said, well, we're going to do a totalitarianism for Christ, which is sort of missing the point of the Christian message, but that was their approach.
And they started recruiting a lot of American fascist sympathizers, and over the years have, when they go and make alliances with foreign dictators, they look for guys who exemplify that model.
Doug Coe, the leader of the group, He likes to say to Congress, who were the three men in the 20th century who best understood the message of the New Testament?
And maybe you say something like Dietrich Bonhoeffer or Martin Luther King, or maybe you're more conservative than you say Billy Graham.
He says, no, no, no.
He says, Hitler, Stalin, and Mao.
And he says, what they understood is that the New Testament...
And this is their reading.
It's not about love or mercy or injustice or forgiveness.
It's about power.
And those guys understood power.
So you want to model yourself on power.
Another sermon you can find actually online on the website of the Navigators, a Christian right group.
They have an audio sermon of Ko saying, you know how Jesus said, You've got to put me before your mother, father, brother, sister.
Hitler, Mao, that's what they taught the kids, direct quote.
Mao even had the kids killing the parents, but it wasn't murder, Steve, because it was for building the new nation, the new kingdom.
Hold on, I mean, this is incredible, and you were there, this is published, it's in your book, and I'm familiar with the fake right-wing Chicago School of Business, all of this, Milton Friedman, you know, the same social...
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Okay, I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest.
A few days ago, I saw Mr. Charlotte on Rachel Maddow.
I was back in the break room drinking coffee and eating dinner, up here working on a film, and I said, I've read his stuff before.
Yeah, I know about Ashcroft and all those guys in this group, and I've been doing some more research on that.
I want to get him on.
But Maddow was making it a left-right thing, and about how these guys are all cheating on their wives, and how they're hypocrites.
And I was like, I've read his articles and other articles about this group, how it's all Machiavellian, and the end justifies the means, and dictators, and strongmen, and I go, man, that fits into Chicago school, and the neocons, and, you know, this whole sick philosophy.
That the Globalist is kind of used to get well-meaning men to do evil things.
The higher-up psychopaths are using it as a control system, and it's one of many groups.
But certainly, then as he made the connections to even more powerful organizations, and I guess there is something to this, you know, I don't get too obsessed on this group or that group.
I've found if it's CFR, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg, Bohemian Grove, Then it's every other group.
The leadership of these groups are the leadership of all the other groups.
And so it's kind of an interlocking directorate.
But I'll be honest, now that I heard him roll with info I'd never heard him say on the shows because they always compartmentalize it.
It made all these connections because You've got other secretive right-wing groups, like the CMP, and I've had guests on over the years that mention that.
I thought of it more as a right-wing think tank that were globalists, but it also had some anti-globalists in it, like the Hunt brothers, so that confused me.
And I don't think anything's the top of the pyramid.
I think at the top of the pyramid it's all these groups nexusing in.
But then I didn't know there was an Opus Dei connection.
I just threw it out there.
He said yes and listened to the names.
And then a Pentagon connection with the head of national security, which really is the real shadow government, James L. Jones, and the Chicago school, and the neocons.
And so you just blew me away.
You just got my attention.
And so I want to get more into the Opus Dei connection, more of the national security connection.
Take your time on Hillary as a friend.
Take your time on their missions, their operations, what they're doing worldwide.
I know you covered all in the book.
I've read part of it just out.
And already a bestseller, The Family, Jeff Charlotte.
But Jeff, go ahead.
Run through it all, give us the key information here, and bottom line, just from knowing what I know about separate groups that nexus in, this does sound pretty sinister.
Yeah, I'm glad you're saying this, Alex, and I think you're exactly right.
We never want to make the mistake of saying there's one group that controls it all.
There's multiple power bases, and the point I'm trying to make here is that the family is one of the most influential power bases, and yet it hasn't been measured.
A sociologist, conservative sociologist, actually, as it happens down there in Texas at Rice University, did a survey of 360 politicians in Washington asking them to name the religious group that is most influential.
One in three named the family.
That's more than any other group got.
That was more votes than James Dawson's focus on the family, more than any other group.
They named the family, and what's crazy about this is the family denies that they exist.
If you call up the leader of the group, as I had NBC News do last year where I did a segment with them, and they said, oh, no, there's nothing to see here.
We don't exist.
There is no group.
It's just a group of friends.
Fortunately, I've already shared with NBC News their tax records.
There's 600 boxes of documents that show, I think, something that does indeed go beyond left and right.
This is a group about power.
Again, I'll just repeat that saying that they have, we work with power where we can, build new power where we can't.
What that means is, Unlike some right-wing groups that are just sort of extensions of the Republican Party, the family wants connections to Democrats as well.
One is Senator Mark Pryor of Arkansas, a pro-war Democrat from Arkansas.
Well, I mean, you know, that's what, you know, when I said the bottom line of the American empire, and that's what led them into alliances, you know, we were talking before the break about their role in sort of whitewashing the records of former Nazis.
One was a guy named Hermann J. Abt, who was vice president of the German operation after the war, became known as the Wizard of the West German Miracle.
Oh my, so we have a Nazi connection with money coming over?
that before he was Germany's banker, he was the man known as Hitler's banker.
He, in fact, had helped spirit away untold amounts of German money to the Nazis to escape to South America.
The head of their Swiss operation after the war was a banker named Alfred Herz, who used the family and its access to American politicians to come over and lobby for America to lay off all the money that, of course, they had stolen.
from the Swiss banks that's stolen from the Jews who had been killed, and the so-called Nazi gold.
We forget that there were actually early attempts to investigate that stuff, and Alfred Herz, working through congressmen like Senator Alexander Wiley from Wisconsin and others, was able to lobby successfully using this group's network.
It's a whole bunch of them, but going in the same direction.
More power, more control.
Specifically, let's get more into that history, but can you backtrack?
Because I read your articles years ago, and Harper's and Rolling Stone.
Because I remember just reading this and then going and Googling some of it and finding that, you know, you were telling the truth because it was so shocking.
about their philosophy and we don't care about abortion we want Jesus wants power we don't care about you know this and that we like Machiavelli I mean this sounds like a psycho cult masquerading as Christians Well, let me give you a quote.
Rockefeller, and there may be more, but in the early days of the family, you know, the Rockefeller Foundation, of course, has gone through a lot of different incarnations, you know.
At one point it was essentially almost a fund for CIA money, and that's been documented pretty well.
Yeah, in the early days they were indeed giving the family, which was then known as International Christian Leadership, they changed their name every few years, they say, to avoid scrutiny, basically.
But he gave some money to them to get started.
I mean, you really see all the titans of American commerce.
I tell you, I mean, this is almost maybe the comic section of the book, you know, because I'd first written about this in Harper's.
So in Chapter 9 of the book, The Family, I talk about some of the early reactions.
One was the speaking engagement in Germany.
Get over there.
Turns out the whole speaking series is paid for by the U.S.
Embassy.
Get off the plane.
My German host says, you know, there's a problem.
Your ambassador says that he cannot pay for you because you are an enemy of Jesus.
This is the ambassador of the United States.
Who is it?
It's a guy named Senator Dan Coat.
Not the brightest bulb on the porch.
He considers Dan Quayle his mentor.
A guy so off the charts that when Bush proposed him for Secretary of Defense, Cheney vetoed him as too fanatical.
That's that kind of guy.
But the more, even one of the odder responses was a phone call I get from one day from a guy who's an executive for the oil company Pride Former, a very big international company involved in this stuff.
He's calling me from Angola.
Says he's just a fan of my work.
Isn't that great?
A call from Angola from a fan of my work.
As we talk for a good long while, it turns out he's a member of the family.
He's actually trying to recruit me back into it.
So I try and get some counter-arguments.
I said, what about the family's involvement in Indonesia?
The dictator Fajardo killed 1.2 million of his own people.
And his only counter-argument is, that must be what God wanted for Indonesia.
Yeah, you know, it was very well put to me by... I did an interview with someone from the Cato Institute, which is a very conservative think tank in Washington, and they really believe in free markets, and so I thought they weren't going to like the book, but they looked at it and said, these guys aren't talking about free markets.
There's nothing free about this.
This is crony capitalism.
The phrase they used, I thought, was really just bid on was self-interest by proxy.
These guys get together in a small group.
That's what a prayer cell is.
That's what Senator Anson, who we've been hearing about, Governor Stanford, those guys, Senator Coburn, they get together in a prayer cell.
They don't actually read the Bible.
I've been there for these things.
They don't actually study the Bible.
One man will say, you know, I have a message from Jesus.
I think Jesus gave me a message for you.
And in the case of Senator Anson and Coburn, the message seemed to be pay your minister some hush money to keep yourself out of the public eye.
You know, the one thing that's really important about that whole scandal that you mentioned talking about on Maddow and so on, and folks on the sex scandal of the Republicans, the more important thing is that I don't care about their sex scandal.
I mean, this story's been around for a while, and I'm not... Every now and then, someone makes an attempt.
The Los Angeles Times did a year-long investigation in 2002, published their results, incredible stuff, linking the family to Central American death squads, all kinds of stuff.
Expected, you know, waited for the Pulitzer, the Pulitzer Prize winning reporter did it.
Last year I did a segment with NBC Nightly News with Andrea Mitchell hosting and we had Hillary Clinton talking about her involvement.
We had video of Doug Coe talking about the great leadership example of the fellowship that he tries to promote is like that one enjoyed by Hitler, Himmler, and Goering.
And, you know, NBC thought they had the scoop of the campaign season, not a peep.
Because our American political press, they're religiously illiterate, they don't know the questions to ask.
Well, and Hitler's methods were absolutely horrific.
But they misunderstand, though.
They like to talk about it.
They say, look, here's what Hitler did.
Hitler got together with a little group of friends in the back of a Bavarian beer hall, and working together, just like you guys are going to work together, whether it's Senator Anson and Senator Coburn, or two younger guys in the group, just like you work together, look what they were able to do.
Well Hitler also, this is mainline history, was hired by German intelligence to set that group up to monitor people and then it got some British funding later from the King of England, Edward VIII, and so Hitler didn't just pop up out of a cabbage patch.
Well, the important thing to recognize with these guys is that they're all sort of power-hungry political opportunists, and I think that's what you get with the family.
You know, the thing about it is, look, a lot of the young guys I live with, even some of the congressmen I've spoken to, they get involved with the best of intentions.
The head of the Washington Times, Mr. Moon, a total cult, and they said, we didn't know that this was going to be a crowning ceremony as him as the Messiah.
There they are, embarrassed, gulping as crowns are being put on his head.
We're going to come right back and continue with other key points.
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And there's nothing Christian about John Ashcroft and his Patriot Act and the rest of it.
There's nothing liberal about Barack Obama hiring nothing but K Street Boys now and swearing he never would.
But I want to come back in this final five-minute segment in a few minutes to take two or three calls.
But first, in the four or five minutes we have left in this segment, other key points you haven't told us about as you're giving us the dirt on these individuals.
He actually got the Senate Armed Services Committee to pay for it, $187,000.
He went to the President of Nigeria.
The State Department didn't want him to meet with him, went there.
He got Senator Coburn to go into Lebanon.
This is a country that's had civil war between Christians and Muslims for a long, long time.
They do not need this kind of interference.
Senator Coburn went there and he said, you know what?
On his official form, paid for by the family by one of their foundations, the International Foundation, he says, I'm going to set up confidential Christian prayer cells in the Lebanese government, just like the one he used to help cover up the political affairs of Senator Enson.
So this group is doing this stuff and when we dig into their own history, we dig into their own archives, we don't have to accuse them or make any wild-eyed, you know, claims and so on, we see an absolutely bloody history.
They dump 600 boxes of unorganized papers in the Billy Graham Center Archives and And I went there, I was one of the very first people to start poking around, and we're talking about budgets, memos, formal correspondence, even confidential government documents, a lot of stuff on Congressional... Why is it at the Billy Graham Center?
But Billy Graham did help them set up this annual ritual, which has become sort of an annual lobbying festival called the National Prayer Breakfast in Washington.
Every year, everybody attends.
The President attends.
Congress attends.
It's ostensibly ecumenical.
Everybody is represented.
Internal documents says anything could happen.
Even the Koran could be read.
And by that they meant, they're referring to Saudi Prince Bandar, who they invited to speak.
But Jesus is there.
He's infiltrating the world.
And by Jesus, of course, you just have to remember, they're not talking about anything you ever learned in Sunday school.
They're talking about the idea of American empire.
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They're talking about the idea... They're talking about the Hitler Jesus.
Well, look, obviously intelligence agencies love to use missionaries in groups like this, and as you said, the Rockefellers are deeply involved in that.
So this is obviously just one more powerful group in all of this and I would imagine you would say even some of the people involved are doing so they believe for good reasons.
I think that's what it's for is to co-opt well-meaning Christian men to kind of warp their sense for the end justifies the means to then go carry out really bad stuff.
But we'll get your take on that in 70 seconds and take a couple phone calls.
I think the moral to the story is power-seeking individuals love to array themselves in fraternal, secretive arrays.
and And we'll be looking more at the CMP, more at the family.
I've seen it referred to in similar groups as brotherhoods.
There's the Masonic networks as well.
Those are all compartmentalized and buried.
But at the top, the superclass that Rothkopf talked about, the head of the Kissinger Group on this show, it's just 6,000 global controllers that are the heads of all these groups, and then they manage the whole planet through that system.
And that's the message that I try to get out most importantly.
Brian in Iowa, you're on the air with the author of this new book.
JeffCharlotte.com is the website.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Thank you for taking my call.
Good afternoon, gentlemen.
As a quick comment, I'd just like to say, Alex, at first, that it's interesting that yesterday you had Robert Gibbs on, and then today you've got all the rags like Greek Bird, AP, Drudge, USA Today coming out with articles going against everything that you guys talked about yesterday.
Yes, I was aware of the connections to the uh... of Hillary Clinton and James Jones to uh... this uh... this organization and uh... interestingly I saw a very critical expose of that on the World Socialist website some uh... many months ago maybe a year ago so I think what we're seeing here and incidentally I hope you have somebody on from the Black Agenda Report blackagendareport.com because this is one black organization very erudite
That completely blows the pretense that Obama cares about black, whites, or anybody else.
And I remember Webster Tarpley commending them about a week ago on his program.
So I think this would be a very good antidote to those... Okay, set up the Black Agenda Report.
Now, you mentioned that the free market, fundamentalism, imperialism, war, and empire are really what they're about.
And if you look at people like James Jones and his connections to the Council on Foreign Relations and Hillary's connections to the Council on Foreign Relations, you see that these people are not liberals, they're not socialists.
They are operatives of the same fake liberal organizations that are used in disguise for these really fundamentally reactionary organizations.
I think John gives us the one good point, which is that a lot of the powerful folks involved in this, we want to not be distracted by those labels like liberals and conservatives.
Rather, I think we want to look at how are they serving this project of American empire versus American democracy.
That's the bottom line.
Which do you believe in, democracy or empire?
The family has thrown its lot in with empire, and they've been able to bring a lot of powerful congressmen and other officials with them.
Some of them, most of them, label those conservatives.
Some of them label those liberals.
All of them interested in serving this empire project rather than the democratic project.
And the point I want to make is that we pay for this empire so far.
So many Americans feel like, yeah, kill them brown people, take their oil.
And I've heard a lot of people on talk radio, yeah, we're taking the brown people's oil.
It's kind of a redneck Klan thing.
Hey, dummies, you're paying for all this.
You don't get it.
The big banks, the offshore corporations do.
Stop thinking you're part of the power structure.
Well, Jeff Charlotte, I appreciate you coming on about the book, the family, and as things unfold, I look forward to have you back on the show soon.
Thanks for spending time with us.
You bet.
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People are getting scared.
They don't even know this show.
I have friends and family and other talk show hosts all over the country saying people are here and they're going to be forced to take a shot and they're upset and saying, how do I not take it?
Well, just don't roll your sleeve up.
Eating during the break there.
Don't roll your sleeves up.
Don't go along with it.
Expose it.
And once a few percentage points say no, the whole thing will fall apart and implode.
Now, I want to discuss that.
I want to cover that.
But I'm going to your calls.
One minute apiece.
I just can't seem to be able to do this because the callers are always so great.
Just make your point or ask me the question because I want to get to the next person.
That's how we get to everybody.
Because I want to get to some NLE09 calls.
I want to get to some other issues here.
And I've got a big news bulletin coming up in the last 10-15 minutes.
But right now, Colton in Canada disagrees.
Go ahead, Colton.
unidentified
Hey Alex, good to hear from you.
I've actually been listening to your radio show for about seven years.
I'm a member of Prison Planet TV and I actually got into it when I first started listening to you.
I kind of got thrown off because you have a very eccentric personality.
And then, when I actually listened to one of your radio shows, you said, don't take my word for it, I challenge you, go and look for the information.
Everything that you come up with, I go and I do a research on it, and for the first, like, four or five years, everything that you've come up with, I've always been able to verify through everything.
I've only had one thing that I've never been able to, that you've mentioned on your show, that I've actually found the exact opposite.
You haven't had two individuals by the name of Robert Menard or John Harris on.
There actually, there's a group in UK, part of the We Are Change group, a guy named Darren Pillard.
What they've done is they've told the government they don't consent to anything.
They don't want to be part of it.
Straw Men and Lies00:11:37
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They're removing themselves from the entire government.
And you've brought up the stuff about straw men and stuff before.
Well, these guys have actually gone to court, right up against the people, fronted out or showed them their actual... Sir, let's just stop right there.
Listen, listen, I told you one minute apiece and I appreciate your call.
You got about three.
It is so hard to respond to this.
I lovingly try to stay away from all this stuff because I don't like sending my listeners to prison.
Okay?
If I had a dollar for every quack liar on the radio and TV, and I don't know those people you mentioned.
So I'm not saying they are.
If I had a dollar for every person that claims, file this straw man, file these liens, get this bond out, do this.
The whole common law system is set that you can swear to something and go file it.
But then if it isn't true, you're going to get in trouble.
But there's so much of it that they can't respond to all of it.
I've had people file fake liens on me.
I've had all sorts of stuff go on.
All I'm saying is there's such a minefield of disinfo and false law out there.
Certainly the government creates a straw man and gets you to waive rights through contract and it's a lie to say you gotta take vaccines and I hear lawyers on air saying Admiralty only deals with ships.
No, I've seen federal courts declare Admiralty stealing people's property in the US.
So there's kernels of truth to all this.
I just don't get up here and push people into all of these theories about law and ideas when they don't even know their Bill of Rights or Constitution.
Now I know there's some freeman societies and groups that I've seen give some decent speeches in England explaining how the system works and telling the system I'm not going along with you.
That is a human declaration as a free being and creature.
Okay, so You don't understand the point I'm making and what I'm saying.
So hey, go knock yourself out!
I just see a lot of people claim they've won this case, or claim they've done this, or claim they've done that, and it's normally not true.
I don't know about those groups you mentioned.
I'm just saying, look out, there's a lot of bull out there.
I don't steer my giant audience off into kind of patriot kook land, where there's all this imaginary baloney going on.
I don't talk about chupacabras and space aliens.
You know, I'm not...
I just spent five minutes with you, pal.
I'm gonna take these calls and each person's getting one minute, okay?
Because we... David in Thailand, go ahead, you're on the air.
Yeah, that's making me think that maybe he was actually born in Hawaii, but they're just holding that back and creating this fake controversy and tying it to all these other real things.
And then when they get ready, they're going to... Yeah, you never know with a PSYOP.
And I was thinking that in the shower this morning after I went for a jog.
I'm going, wait a minute, they could be acting like, you know, they're upset with this to really hype it up and then disprove it later.
If that's true, their body language, and it's hard to fake it, they look like they hate having to cover it, and they're actually scared of it.
And let me tell you, they're scared of anything spontaneous.
They're masters of hoaxes.
So even if it's a hoax that he was born in Kenya and that it's not a hoax that he was born in Hawaii, they are afraid of stuff.
They're masters of lies.
So let's say it could be a lie.
They're scared of town halls where spontaneously the town hall's not even about Obama and everybody's yelling and screaming about his birth certificate.
No, they're genuinely scared.
We have to stop not accepting victory.
Now, I'm not saying you're bad caller.
I have the same thoughts this morning.
I'm always analyzing and thinking.
Every waking moment, even when I dream, I'm thinking about this stuff.
No, I genuinely think they tried to ignore it, and they're scared, and that makes me think it's probably true.
And there's a lot of pieces that go into that, but regardless, it isn't good for Obama.
And anything that stalls him is good, but if it isn't true that he was born in Kenya, I will try to come out and expose that.
But my gut tells me that they're covering something up.
I'm not sure what it is, but it's a very, very serious, big issue.
But after Obama is defeated as a political demagogue, as long as that train stalls and he can't get his agenda through, then we've got to point out he's just a puppet and not make it about a new system where judo, where they use our action against him to put a new right-wing puppet in.
You see, we've got to stop that left-right dynamo.
Yeah, I just think, you know, if he actually was, and when they got ready they brought that out and showed that it was true, it would discredit all the other 9-11 and the Fed and Bilderberg that they've been tying that to, and all the people that have been talking about it would be all discredited.
I wanted to let you know that my best friend, he's got a family friend who works at Raytheon in Tampa.
And, uh, he said he works at the receiving, uh, and shipping area throughout the entire building.
He receives everything that comes in, every order that gets put in.
He said that they had a huge order for, like, 500,000 riot gear suits, and he said that in the whole time that he's been working there for, like, 20-something years, he said he's never seen nothing like it.
Well, that's not just your buddy at Raytheon, because we can't confirm that, but I believe you.
It's all over the news!
They've ordered body bags and riot gear, and have tried to train the main army force for a riot, and are having military drills everywhere to condition everybody, and saying... I mean, again, they destroy the economy, that causes riots, then that sets the precedent for the police state.
What else did he say?
Did he say anything else there, caller?
unidentified
Um, no.
He just said that they had ordered Riot Gear suits and he had never seen anything like it.
It was a huge order and he was basically telling everybody he knew and he told my best friend, who is a relative of his, and he said that, I mean, he don't listen to your show, he doesn't even have a computer, but he was scared and he would tell me about it and I said, well, that's what Alex Jones has been talking about.
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Yeah, they want us to all be fighting with each other.
Maybe off air I can... Sir, I don't even know what you're talking about.
I mean, I'm like taking calls and I always get people calling in plugging or their radio shows.
I mean, what are you saying?
G. Edward Griffin?
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I'm saying that he came on my show and he wants to come back on and I would, I hope that I can maybe get you on somehow.
My question was about NLE.
And do you think Just like with before 9-11, do you think, I mean, if you're spidey-sense up with this one, could this be, and the swine flu, be the actual, them actually going for it all this time?
I can't seem to break this habit of taking one or two calls an hour when I could take hundreds an hour.
I mean, unlimited calls.
And there's so many great callers I want to get on that have important tips and info to cover, plus I'm a loud mouth, blowhard, you know, and I need to shut up.
Yes, my Spidey Sense is off the chart.
Not about NLE09.
That's just the Feds testing the total takeover with foreign troops.
That intellectually and historically is off the charts, very upsetting.
But the way they're hyping this flu that's super weak, that's clearly man-made though, And digging the mass graves and getting ready, I said that back in March, even before April, and now they're saying get ready for forced inoculations and setting up emergency tents and troops, even in Austin at Camp Mabry.
I went over there a few days ago and confirmed that.
I mean, this is, this, they're getting ready for something big as a political cover for the banking takeover and the water takeover and the carbon tax takeover and the hate speech takeover and the, just all of it's happening right now.
Yes, my Spidey Sense is off the charts upset.
Okay?
And we've all got a sixth sense, but mine is intellectual and also in my gut, and it's off the chart right now.
And everybody else is freaking out, saying, I'm worried, I don't want to take the shot, something's going on, I'm worried.
And they're getting ready to make a move.
Obama's approval rating's dropping, the establishment needed him to get their agenda through, and they're going to stage something, get ready.
Just absolutely.
As for me coming on your radio show, I have never been this busy.
I'm behind doing a book.
I gotta finish the new Obama film.
That means a website and cover design and finish the film and it's just insane and it's so good and I'm up here every night till one in the morning that I've really cut back on doing interviews almost down to nothing.
Okay?
And so, I will do interviews coming up in October.
Folks can contact the producers.
That's how you do it, is you contact them.
Because the producers slash publicist slash whatever you want to call it.
I've heard you mention this on several shows and I have one thing I disagree with you on.
You said the Rockefellers discovered the cancer virus and from my research I found out there was an inventor named Royal Reif who discovered the cancer virus using his high-end optics and actually the Rockefellers stole those ideas from the inventor himself.
Yeah, I mean, that's how many angels can dance to the head of a pen.
I've heard the recordings of Reif sitting there drinking scotch, claiming that he invented the sun, almost.
And I'm not saying he probably didn't invent some interesting things, but he also, I've seen film of him with big so-called projectors to do stuff with flying saucers.
So, I don't just accept what the government says, and the media says, and I don't accept what Royal Raymond Reif and everybody else says.
I'm saying the Rockefeller Foundation, in this research I did from declassified university studies, they, in the 20s, funded the research.
Discovered that most cancer was viral, and then they started vaccine programs and cancer research and treatment facilities, putting it in the vaccines, and then they make the money off of you when you die from the cancer.
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Yeah, on the Royal Raymond Rife stuff, there might have been some truth to that, but I mean, if I have one more kook show at my office with a glass ray gun with some flashing if I have one more kook show at my office with a glass ray gun with some flashing light in I mean it makes me sick.
You know, when I tell you about NLE 09 and troops from 14 countries here training for martial law, FEMA says that, but in their own spin.
Oh, they're here to help us with a simulated terror attack on the homeland by domestic terrorists, and they're going to also help us spy on the American people, you know, run surveillance.
I mean, it's total federalization drill with foreign troops, and nobody cares about that.
It's all Obama and race relations or O.J.
Simpson or Michael Jackson, they love issues with black people.
Then they can make it all about black and white.
It's mind control, folks.
I've just had enough of it.
And also, we're going into a depression.
We're going into a collapse of society.
And your Oregon plastic pyramids ain't gonna save you.
Oh yeah, there's activity everywhere as they simulate, mainly taking over cities, as the John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 97 states, that now Homeland Security and Brigade Homeland, NORTHCOM, main job is to suppress governors and legislatures.
It's stated!
And then who is the legislature going to call on?
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I mean, if that doesn't prove the government's rogue and illegitimate, my friend, what does?
Well, first to go, last to know, they're admitting that they're trying to train large portions of the regular army force for the last three years, NMP, military police, search and cordon, and they're doing drills from Missouri to California in the newspaper.
I showed it yesterday, of fighting American gun owners.
It's a four-hour show with an obnoxious pumpkin head directing it, but I appreciate your call, sir.
Good to hear from you.
Look, again, I don't have all the answers, folks.
I'm not the end-all, be-all.
I'm just here pointing out the insanity taking place.
23.7 trills stolen, they've sucked us dry, they plan to fully implode the economy, and then they're running all these Deceptive headlines like home prices index up for first time in three years.
And then what it says is the decline slowed because it's bottoming out.
But the deceptive headline says up.
But then you read the article, everything's falling apart.
I mean, again, they're telling you inflation's down.
Everybody knows everything costs more.
Let me ask the guys.
Does everything cost more, it seems like?
I mean, do you believe the news saying things cost less, or do they cost more?
Home price index up for the first time in three years.
Index of 20 major cities rises on a monthly basis for the first time since July 2006.
Hinting that the worst of the declines may be over.
Heard green shoots six months ago, remember?
And again, I hope things will get better, but the globalists have every intention in their own documents.
You got the Dennis Kucinich clip where They're admitting that the Federal Reserve paid banks not to lend and that lending's gone down.
They could have paid all the mortgages in the country twice over and had $5 trillion left on a 23.7 trill.
All the mortgages, $9.4 trillion.
All of them, not the ones in trouble.
All of them.
Every condo, every mansion, everything.
Go ahead and play this.
unidentified
Your report about lending where you talk about how banks have been leveraging TARP funds to support lending activities.
And you say on commercial lending, 20% of respondents reported they used TARP funding for commercial lending activities.
17% of respondents deploying TARP funds for other consumer lending.
13% for small business.
You talk about the capital cushion, how some banks are basically parking their funds to create a cushion against loan losses.
Now, I looked at your report.
And I want to use that report as a backdrop for a news report that came in today.
Now, we went back into the TARP history here.
We know the first intent that Congress had, purchase toxic assets, which were mortgage-backed securities.
We were told, keep people in their homes.
Well, administration threw that out the door, last administration.
Then, we were told, we're going to switch the TARP funds to help bail out the banks, direct capital infusion.
But I think something else has happened here and I want to make sure it doesn't escape this committee and I hope that you can tell me it hasn't escaped your notice.
We're now seeing that we have another switch that's occurred.
That we actually have the Fed paying banks not to use their, quote, excess capital to make loans.
I direct your attention to a news report today, which says that banks' excess reserves at the Fed rose to a record $877.1 billion daily average in the two weeks ended May 20th.
And I can give you all the mainstream news articles on it, or you can go to StartPage.com, a search engine, and punch it in and find it all right there.
Just Google, Federal Reserve paying banks not to loan.
Yeah, Federal Reserve paying its own banks.
The Federal Reserve is a holding front company for private banks.
Now, I told you this back in October, because they've done this in the third world all over and over again.
They plunge the economy, get a bailout, hoard the money, till everything implodes, then they're going to dump the money on the market, buying everything up, while it still has value, then it's devalued once the money finally gets in your hands in the economy.
Because their argument is, this money can only be at institutional level, it can't hit the street, or it'll cause inflation.
Comprende?
That's why they're buying seaports, and roads, and technology companies, and things like that.
And weapon systems.
Because you're not supposed to get your own stinking money!
And then as if that fraud wasn't enough, you pay interest to the banks on the money you gave them!
My God, imagine if you're a con artist and you thought up the most insane fraud you could of how to rip the biggest idiots off.
This is it!
It's like New Jersey, where hundreds of government officials are selling organs, and stealing money from things, and mayors, and the whole country's like this!
I mean, I just... I mean, it's just... And then Kucinich and Ron Paul get attacked by the media.
They're the bad guys, because they're talking... There's the bad man, right there!
Here's the bad man!
Got the news media basically parachuting in on me, attacking me every day, you know, because I don't like being raped by foreign banks.
Specifically, I have to pull that up, but a lot of that is true, some of it isn't.
They also say things like, you know, this company or that company or this government agency is really a private corporation and They operate as private corporations, but they have one foot in government, one foot out of government.
It's a quasi.
But it is true the District of Columbia does operate as a corporation.
but it has feet in both the republic and in the country and in its own corporate system does that answer your question Is there two governments?
Well, there's more than two governments.
I mean, you now have the private bureaucracies that openly tie into private corporations that are now the real government, and they operate under continuity of government laws and through the National Security Council.
Well no, they admit that some states, 76% are on drugs.
On average, 68% of children they grab, they put on 7 drugs on average.
And there's been doctors in the news in Texas, WAI-TV did a great report, you can Google it.
Foster kids on drugs and he said he saw kids healthy and happy five-year-olds they'd taken that were in wheelchairs two years later the drug I mean one kid they put on 18 drugs because the CPS and the foster families get more money the more drugs and the more health problems your kids got and they use them to test pesticides on them New York Daily News I preach in fact Google foster children pesticides tested on foster children And you'll see, all over the country.
I mean, they kill them!
They give them, in a month, pesticide, and then they chain them down, they try to escape, and they murder them!
I mean, they just murder!
They take the organs, it's just murder, killing, death, frothing, doing whatever they want.
You cannot imagine how, because people won't believe the evil's going on, so the evil just has free reign.
The devil's biggest trick was convincing the world he didn't exist, and boy, these are human devils that are out there.
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I want to speak with a congressman, but I'm going to put this out for everybody because I think some of the questions should always be asked of every congressman and every senator.
Are they going to be joining the same medical coverage and programs that we will?
They're just going to start fining everybody to get worthless insurance where they're going to give you an aspirin for a heart attack like the Soviet Union.
Appreciate your call.
Glad you found the Lars Larson Show.
Lars Larson.
I've been on his show a few times.
Hell, Peanut had to have me back on.
I'm just joking.
He's a nice neocon.
Let's go ahead and talk to Mike in Minnesota.
Last caller.
Take us out, Mike.
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Hey, Alex.
Been a long time.
When I called in was New York City when they started the bag searches.