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alex jones
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alex jones
Ron Paul is coming up in the next segment now.
He's not going to be able to get on the floor, so stay with us for that.
And I'm going to continue with Roger and Matt and Mark and everybody else who's holding.
Roger, I wasn't jumping on you when you called in to correct me.
The reason I jumped on you is I know I predicted last hour how this is going to go.
And it's going to be, well you guys, hold on just a second.
You guys signed all the documents, so now you're basically our slaves.
But the point is, they're lying about all this previous stuff, and I've got to get the actual year, but I talked to a VFW head who won't come on air, and he said, yeah, they started having to sign forms the last 15, 20 years.
He's got to pull some documents up.
But the issue, and then I'm going to let you talk, and I appreciate you calling, is that they, out of the gates, are threatening the veterans who had this stuff pushed on them and given to them to go out and do services for our dead veterans.
and you don't, it's bad enough to be registering them and making them, you know, getting ready to turn the stuff in.
But what's even worse is the fact that out of the gates, they're bullying them and threatening them with the law when they do so many great services.
But just go ahead.
unidentified
You're very correct.
By the way, I'm the one who called in last week and advised you not to give water boarders, so I know what's going on.
I just made an urgent call to my commander of my VFW and requested to speak at the next VFW meeting.
And I would like to challenge all VFW members to do some research, get all this stuff together, and inform their other members.
That's the only way that we're going to get this stopped.
We all know what's going on, especially the people that listen to your program.
alex jones
Now, you're a former Marine.
You called from Vietnam and then a retired police officer.
You heard me break down how this is treating them like they're criminals out of the gates to get them all scared.
I bet a million dollars next it's going to be, we want to get you to serve us now.
unidentified
Correct. Correct.
They've already tried that.
That's why I was an officer in the Marine Corps League and I was on the Honor Guard when they sent the National Guard to Iraq.
They're the ones that does military funerals in Missouri, and we filled in.
I did 280 funerals in one year.
alex jones
And you get treated like a piece of filth and threatened by the BATF.
unidentified
Correct. And then I got ostracized from Marine Corps League and the BFW for speaking out three and four years ago about the same things that you talk about every day.
alex jones
But I bet they're not laughing at you now.
unidentified
No, they're not.
And I'm getting ready to jump in big, and I'm going to get some things done.
alex jones
might not help but at least i'm more tried to get the fellow veterans the ones this place to be a family members wonder is their life Well, it's a shame that we would be suckered, the American people, into wars that were questionable, and then when tyranny is here, this is the time!
I mean, if people ever wanted a chance to fight for America by speaking out, at least, this is it!
I mean, this is the real deal!
This is D-Day!
This is Red Dawn!
unidentified
this is happening my friend of a former marine friend of mine three years ago had come home from uh...
vietnam never had a minute problem working one place all his life and he finally had a nervous breakdown up from ptsd after forty years and uh...
he couldn't work anymore he got his uh...
about two weeks after he got it the v_a_t_s pulled up from his house and took every gun he had And by the way...
alex jones
By the way, there's no law to do that.
It's felonies under the 68 Gun Control Act.
But they're now giving people a fake jurisdiction.
It's like they force shots on you.
There's no law.
They take your kids without a proper court order and they come and take vets' guns every day I see in the news when there's not a law for a psychological made-up issue.
Correct. Oh, God.
Well, I mean, look, it's coming to a head.
They have decided.
to turn all the young cops and military and the gang members and the illegal aliens they're hiring for the military loose against the veterans.
And they plan to have both sides kill each other and then bring in the I-4 after everything breaks down.
And I'm telling you, folks, they're planning reconstruction-style occupation in the United States.
unidentified
Yes they are, but what they don't understand is it's going to be really bloody and there might not be anything left if they do that.
alex jones
Well, I mean, it's not talk, though.
Americans are always like this.
We put up and put up, but when the sleeping giant gets up...
unidentified
That's right.
alex jones
I mean, it's...
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I tell you, I'm not looking forward...
Some captured SS officers was questioned in World War II.
By the way, my family goes all the way back to the Civil War serving this country.
So, we are all patriots.
But they asked the SS officers what they were afraid of most in the United States military, and they said, a mad American.
They said, if we had a big battle and we annihilated a unit, we didn't want to fight the next ones coming up because they was mad and they were ruthless.
alex jones
We have to know who the enemy is.
It's Bernanke, it's the Rothschilds, it's the Rockefellers, it's Geithner.
When we get this country back, they're all going to get a fair trial.
And folks, I'm risking my life doing this.
They're watching me right now.
We're going to take them on, and a lot of us are going to have to give our lives in this fight, but in the end, we are going to kick their butt.
God bless you, sir.
Good to hear from you.
More vets coming up.
Got to basically register their guns and turn them in to the feds.
That's the new freedom.
Stay with us.
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alex jones
Calls from the floor of the house.
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Your calls as well.
alex jones
Government demands inventory of all VFW weapons.
Threatens, that should be the headline, threatens veterans with arrest if they don't report 100-year-old plus cannons that were given to them by the government.
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below.
alex jones
Oh come to all these funerals, you know for dying vets do these ceremonies and Here, you know, we'll give you the m1s to shoot the blanks and we'll give you the uniforms and things now They're saying we're gonna send the BATF after you if you don't Keep a record all that and they've also announced Until Congress got upset.
Obama said no more brass left over from the military for reloading to be sold to big companies.
And they introduced all these bills to totally end the Second Amendment as we know it.
This is all happening.
This is all real.
And it's just going to incrementally continue.
But even though it's incremental, the incrementalism is accelerating now.
It is intensifying now.
It is Expanding now.
And the question is, as a society, what are we going to do about this?
We have private outside banks that are having their way with the people.
And as soon as Ron Paul gets on with us, that's what we're going to discuss, is the bill that he's introduced that's now got over 200 sponsors.
Bill to Audit Federal Reserve now has 207 co-sponsors.
New names being added every day.
Momentum building.
For Ron Paul and the American people, identifying the outside criminal organization, the private bankers that have engineered the collapse, that have taken over our society.
This is the new world order.
We have their minutes, we have their documents, we have it all.
We understand what they're doing, and what they're setting up, and what they are creating.
Buildaudit Federal Reserve now has 207 co-sponsors.
New names being added every day, momentum building for the American people.
Thanks to Ron Paul and all of your phone calls to Congress, all the letters to Congress.
At a time of writing, a bill that would see the Federal Reserve Bank audited for the first time in 59 years has 207 co-sponsors in the House and is gaining traction with every single day.
Now we've seen numbers of 200 is what we confirm.
Daily Paul is saying 207.
We can talk to the man himself.
Congressman Ron Paul, the hardest working man in Congress, Dr. Ron Paul, hailing from Texas, I'm so honored to be a Texan with him.
Congressman, how many sponsors does it really have?
ron paul
Well, it's actually 209 right now.
alex jones
Yeah, you heard it here first!
ron paul
209! So we have to almost check minute by minute, and they're coming in faster and easier now, and the percentage of the new people are Democrats, because a lot of the Republicans are already on.
It is spreading.
I think the people at the grassroots have done the job that they need to do.
And when we feel really depressed about how slow Congress works, we do have a system that will respond if we wake up enough people.
But that's the tough job.
But they will respond when they hear from the people.
alex jones
Congressman, how long have you worked to get this many sponsors?
I mean, you've been introducing this bill for a decade, haven't you?
ron paul
Yes, it's been probably ever since I've been in Congress.
I don't know if I've ever skipped any, but there's never been any general support from the public, but because of the financial crisis and because of the presidential campaign and the interest in the Federal Reserve, all of a sudden it's come together.
So this is by far the most interest that we've had, and quite frankly, I think it's the most interest anybody's ever had since the Federal Reserve has been established in 1913.
But you know, even though the Fed contributed Significantly, if they didn't cause the whole depression of the thirties, nobody was calling for, you know, auditing the Fed and abolishing the Fed today.
Those are routine chants that we hear, and therefore I think we're making great progress, only because they've created such a chaotic mess that we're dealing with.
alex jones
Well, we'll have to change the headline at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com to 209 from Congressman Ron Paul.
So you heard it here first, sir.
I don't want listeners to blink or viewers to blink because they may miss history.
I don't think even our own movement realizes the gravity of the fact that it looks like this bill has a good chance of passing if you get another ten or so.
Sponsors, and the Federal Reserve has hired lobbyists to try to block this.
Their arrogance, their veneer of invincibility, their cloak of invincibility is falling away.
People see that they can be beat.
They see that they are not above the law.
It's viral videos with the former Fed Chairman and current Fed Chairman saying they're above the law and no one can look into them and no agency of government of the three branches can.
That is asinine on its face for even an uneducated, uninformed public on our system of government.
And so I just want to get your take on what is it like for you to know you're the leader of something that is so amazingly historical, because even if they somehow beat this this time, then the question is, how were we not able to audit you?
And so you can see that the momentum has changed and the pendulum is really shifting.
I sense destiny of the level of 1776 here, sir.
ron paul
I think there's no doubt about it.
They can't put this.
The odds are still, you know, iffy about where this is going to go.
I mean, the powers that be have a lot of tools that they can use.
Conference committees, they might block it in the Senate.
They can do all sorts of things.
So I remain cautiously optimistic because I know it has a long way to go.
But the issue will not be quieted down.
I mean, the issue is out there.
And, you know, in some ways, let's say we have all this attention in this bill and we get the majority in the Congress to endorse it and it never gets out and never goes anyway.
It's proof positive that we really need to do it.
That means the incentive will be that much greater to get a handle on all this.
So I think we win either way because we've gotten the attention of such a large number of people.
And it's not only the...
You're a very, very hardcore constitutionalist because the grassroots are talking to the very average Republican, the very average Democrat, the moderate, the liberal, the progressive, and they're all joining it.
The issue really here is reigning in government and transparency.
We should not be fooled into believing that they have a strong belief in the monetary policies that we might want.
I mean, they're not old gold standard people or anything else which is driving this.
Is that Congress has created a mess, the Federal Reserve has been doing a lot secretly, and the American people want to know what's happening because they've seen too many special interests bailed out, not only by Congress and the Treasury, but by the Federal Reserve as well, and they're demanding answers.
alex jones
Congressman, in the 12 minutes or so we have left with you, I've got so many important questions concerning this.
Do we explain to some of the public out there that this is all a process of liberty?
Tyranny wasn't born overnight in this country, and liberty isn't going to take back over overnight.
It's a constant battle between those two title forces, as you know.
But people said, oh, Ron Paul didn't win, so boo-hoo.
I said, no, it built this giant movement.
Now the biggest thing on campus isn't liberal or fake conservative, it's libertarian, it's freedom, it's constitutionalist.
And now people are finally seeing that a year later, that it's building in strength, and that it's a process that even, as you just said, even if they defeat it this time, then people say, well, why can't we audit it?
It's almost better if they do engage in chicanery and pull out the stops and beat it this time, because then everybody's going to want to know what they're hiding.
ron paul
Yep, that's exactly right, and that'll just energize our Our
group Federal Reserve does not have the assets, all they have are credits, and obviously that's what we would expect, but that goes to prove why they can't be the salvation of this country.
I mean, just counterfeiting money and doing mischief and serving the interests of their friends, that can't work.
I think it's going to come to an end, whether we win this legislative victory or not, because their system is deeply flawed.
Ultimately, I think the solution comes Uh, if we're well prepared to offer it up, uh, when the system totally collapses, the financial structure has come unglued.
But the, uh, the dollar still, the dollar still works to a degree.
You know, people still are buying dollars and they don't know what to do with them.
But when they get discouraged, they don't hold dollars anymore.
And then they start buying up hard assets.
They're starting to buy oil now more than a month or so ago.
And they continue to buy gold.
And, you know, China continues to buy gold.
I mean, there's, A lot of things.
But the end stages of a situation like this goes very, very rapidly once the sentiment changes.
Just like when the financial system collapsed, everybody rushed to dollars and interest rates went down to 1%, along with what the Fed was doing.
But when a currency crisis hit, people went, holy man, let's get out of the dollar.
And then you'll see the fireworks.
Then we have to be prepared to say, don't just give us a U.N. central bank.
The international planners, they know what we know, and they're making their plans.
They know their days are numbered.
But the contest is between totalitarianism and liberty, and whoever wants the totalitarian approach has to have government-monopolized money.
And that's what we have to stop.
alex jones
In your gut, and we all know what the gut is, it's thousands of pieces of data integrated in, and the mind comes up with a prime projection.
In your gut, Congressman, Do you agree with me that in the last two months we were about to get the title shift or the flip to our side, but I can almost spiritually feel it at a DNA level that the shift has happened?
ron paul
Toward our way?
Yes. Well, when I'm out of Washington, I have two perspectives.
You know, when I go to a college campus and you represent and talk to people outside of Washington, and there should be reason why you're seeing signs of optimism.
I come up here every single day.
Right now we're dealing with the State Department authorization bill, and it's atrocious!
You know, it's $18 billion and more mischief and more militarism, and the Republicans this time are going to oppose it, but it's just a partisan thing.
But it'll go sailing right through.
alex jones
So you're saying there's two different worlds, and more and more it's getting separated, and that gulf is widening.
ron paul
Right. Like this week, and I just got off the floor, I gave my all of two minutes, and I said, you know, our president has asked us to go with PAYGO.
Pay the bills as you go along.
Of course, for the liberal, that means raise taxes.
Well, how can they raise taxes?
There's no businesses out there that can pay.
But they're not going to pay for this.
They're incapable.
And if they paid for it by cutting it, and they want to spend all this money overseas, they'd have to cut a domestic program, which they're not going to do.
So the president's outside on the TV, and people say, well, that does sound good.
This president's not a radical spender.
He wants to cut down, and he wants to rein this in, and he wants PAYGO.
And two years from now, we're going to cut way back.
We'll deal with the problems later on.
And I think, though, our crowd is probably like young people around the world.
Think of those young people in China when Geithner goes over there and says, oh, yeah, we're going to get things under control, and we're going to rein back our spending.
And those students just laughed at them.
Well, I imagine there's a lot of students around the country and a lot of other people now who just laugh at us up here in Washington.
But the people here in Washington are still in charge, and we haven't converted them.
And we're just seeing signs of it that it's possible when we can get 209 people to support an auditing bill.
So we just have to...
See if the calamity hits us before we can make some calm, deliberate decisions and make some changes.
But my guess is that we'll have the crisis before we can do that.
alex jones
Absolutely. Things are certainly deepening.
When do you see the next big plunge downward, deeper into this globally engineered depression?
ron paul
I think it's really going down now, but the government statistics sort of are, you know, I'm giving people a false sense of security, so I think we're still slipping.
But there will be more announcements and more bankruptcies and probably more commercial property problems and more states going bankrupt and more unemployment.
Then finally, the euphoria on Wall Street over the last four months will dissipate and that will feed into a lot of disappointments.
But you know, even though Wall Street has done a little bit better by these prices going up a little bit, I don't think the average guy out there that's lost his job has started to feel any better yet.
I was impressed the other day that some of the news media have reported that the real rate of unemployment isn't 9%, it's like 18%, you know, when you add up all the people who don't look for jobs anymore or who work a couple hours a week.
It's a very serious problem.
alex jones
Exactly. The mainstream media is now having to admit more and more that the government is lying and spinning because they want to keep some credibility.
Sir, I want to specifically ask you, in the time we have left, how do we help you get this bill passed?
How do we help you get H.R. 1207, that has 209 sponsors now, as of June 10, 2009, on this Wednesday edition, what can we do to get this passed?
What can we do Because going back to you at McKinney-Ruff's when you gave a speech after I did, five years ago, it's in my film Matrix of Evil, you talked about how the key was when the global crisis came in, the establishment would try to use the crisis to bring in their bank of the world, their world currency.
Because you were reading the same globalist documents I was.
Yeah. And then now it's all over the news and they're posing as the saviors and the public is going, wait a minute, you're the guys that did this.
So they are looking to you and others.
So there's this vacuum that's about to happen.
And I mean, just speaking to the fact that, as you always said, when this happened, we had to put in the maximum effort.
So we want to put in the maximum effort.
You're the general.
You're the George Washington, sir.
What do we do?
ron paul
I think we just do more of what we're doing now and building our numbers.
I mean, you have a large number of people that listen to you, and you continue to do the things that you're best at.
Now, following up from our campaign, we started the Campaign for Liberty, and that website helps bring people together, and our numbers continue to grow.
But right now, in a more specific way, they need to go to Campaign for Liberty, get the names of those who've signed on, and find out exactly the congressmen who have not.
Go to their office!
alex jones
I mean, you could go shake their hand, couldn't you?
ron paul
And when the members come and talk to him and they say, they'll come up and they'll be very nice and they're just trying to do their job.
They say, what is this bill that the grassroots are all riled up about 1200 and something?
And I said, well, it has to do with transparency of the feds so we know what they're doing.
Oh, I'm for that.
And they signed on.
But they came to me not because they wanted to be on a Ron Paul bill, but because the grassroots were telling him to actually play Politically, I have to take a little credit.
It is a little more popular being on a Ron Paul bill now than it used to be.
alex jones
Oh yeah, you're out there setting bushfires in the minds of men and women everywhere.
You've been introducing this.
What, I mean, I remember ten, twelve years ago you'd get like five, six sponsors for this.
ron paul
It's changing now.
And it's politics, I mean, especially marginal Democrats and marginal Republicans when they need this ten or fifteen percent of the vote.
If there's a Democrat in a Republican seat, boy, they really want to pay attention to what's going on.
alex jones
Congressman, in closing, I want to ask you two quick questions.
Number one, there's a domino effect, isn't there, from what you've been doing?
Because as you move to audit the Fed, other agencies and groups and governments start thinking, here's AP today, Congress subpoenas the Fed about where all the billions of dollars to Bank of America went, because they won't tell Senator Sanders and Congressman Paul and others, yourself, So, again, here's this idea of holding these guys accountable.
It's starting to happen, isn't it?
ron paul
Oh, yeah.
It'll be contagious, and that is very good.
I think that, fortunately, we can get all political groups together on transparency, and then we can argue out what we want to do.
As a matter of fact, Barney Frank has been helpful to me on this.
But he wanted to make sure I knew.
He didn't agree with me on the ultimate monetary policy.
And that's okay.
If they believe in transparency, then open debate.
But I just strongly feel that if we get transparency of the Fed and the people know what they've done, I think their days are numbered.
alex jones
Well, it's been said that an audit of the Fed will abolish the Fed, because as soon as all the admitted criminality, we can see them doing openly.
I mean, what do you expect to find if we do get the audit, or how will they fight that?
ron paul
I think there'll be some surprises, but I'd be most interested in what they've done with the international organization, which countries they've bailed out, and which central banks they helped, what they have done with gold, and whether or not they've loaned out and sold gold, and how they manipulate markets.
I would imagine they even manipulate stock markets, for that matter.
And how they do it would be the thing.
I think it would be a big audit.
You know, I think once they get in there to trace that thing through, It may be a big complex matter because it's international as well.
I see my time is running out and I have to say goodbye.
alex jones
Congressman, thank you.
In closing, you'll hear about in the news in the next few days, we broke it.
Just like the DHS documents, demonizing yourself and others, the government is demanding an inventory of even 100-year-olds.
Okay, very good.
Take care.
There he goes, ladies and gentlemen.
On to the next matter, a very busy man.
Congressman Ron Paul.
And we skipped that break because he got on with us a little bit late, running off of the floor to join us.
Okay, ladies and gentlemen, I know some stations probably went to break then, even though it's not a local station break.
It is a network break that we skip.
We only skip network breaks occasionally when we have somebody like Charlie Sheen or Jesse Ventura or Ron Paul or somebody of that, Willie Nelson, on the show, and I've got limited time with them.
So, there went Congressman Ron Paul, and I got that info out to him, just like I called their office, Well, we're going to join some stations now.
Here we go.
Well, I just had Congressman Ron Paul on with us for some stations that may have gone to break.
That was a network break.
Some stations still take breaks they're not supposed to.
But regardless, we just had him on during that last little segment with us as well, talking about a host of issues.
Very, very exciting interview with him.
And when we broke the MIAC report, we broke the DHS report, listeners would call Ron Paul's office saying, hey, you've been listed as a terrorist.
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BFW is BATF is threatening to raid them and confiscate even World War One, Spanish-American War.
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I would say the anti-dual order movement is a bipolar or
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alex jones
Okay, the last two hours I've had Ron Paul on, I've covered the VFWs.
Being told, we're going to register your knives, your rifles, 150, 160-year-old cannons, That old tank out front that's welded to the ground.
And the DHS lists the veterans as the number one terror group that Homeland Security set up for.
I always told you it was for you.
This is a criminal takeover.
But it's now happening.
We're taking your calls on that.
Then I'm going to get into a bunch of other issues and financial news.
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That'll be interesting.
We Are Change pops in for like 10 minutes.
They did a great job confronting General Myers, who was over the 9-11 attacks in Norad.
And I want to just have them pop in about that.
And we're going to get a quick, at the end of the show, from a press conference that just started on the south side of the Capitol against this bill that openly ends the Fourth Amendment in Texas.
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Just absolutely incredible.
Let's go to the calls here.
Mark in Minnesota.
Yeah, good afternoon, Alex.
unidentified
Thanks for taking my call.
I am a veteran.
I was until this year a proud veteran, but I'm quickly losing my pride with things that are going on.
This Obama administration is tearing me up.
When you look at the veterans'hospital and stuff and the way they've abandoned veterans, You know, I saw the article last night about the VFW, and it alarmed me because of what happened back in the 80s with the militia groups and banning any military training with militias.
And it did alarm me, so I went to work this morning.
And I got a hold of the Washington, D.C. headquarters of VFW, and I talked to this fellow who was very perturbed.
His name is Jerry Newberry.
I have his phone number.
I can give it to you offline if you'd like.
alex jones
Hold on.
I had a pen in here, and it's been run off with, like everything else.
Thank you, sir.
Just got thrown a pen.
Let me write down these names.
It was Jerry Newberry?
unidentified
Yes, sir.
Jerry Newberry.
He's Public Relations, Washington, D.C. He's supposed to be one of the head honchos of public relations.
816-756-3390.
alex jones
That's a public number?
Yes. Okay, 816-756-3390, okay.
unidentified
Right. Now, the official version that he gave to me, it seems that the VFW is going to take the side of the government.
alex jones
Of course they are.
It's going to grovel.
If they told veterans groups to turn their firearms in and to throw their kids off cliffs, the leadership of the VFW and all these groups would say, Heil Hitler.
Go ahead.
unidentified
I understand what you're saying.
I really do.
But, you know, first thing, he was very perturbed.
He said he was defending Dan West.
He said Dan West, the sergeant, is internal male, and his words were threatening, not the government's words.
It was the sergeant's words that were threatening.
And he was trying to motivate the post commanders to comply with this stuff.
alex jones
Oh, motivate them!
Oh, it's always all in Texas and Kentucky and California confirmed in the news.
It's just base commanders by themselves tell all the troops who live off base to register their private firearms.
It's never the feds.
It wasn't Obama banning the sale of brass from the military to reloader companies.
You know, Obama hadn't introduced all these gun bills to basically ban the Second Amendment.
Oh, he didn't call for total gun bans as a state senator.
Oh, his attorney general didn't argue for it last year in federal court, a total national gun ban.
Oh, no.
I mean, these people are sick.
unidentified
I know, and it gets worse, Alex, because what he says next is alarming because it's so incriminating that it's hard to believe.
alex jones
Stay there.
I want to hear when you're talking to who you say is a caller, but I believe you.
We'll call and check it, though we haven't confirmed it.
Jerry Newberry, Public Relations DC. And this is what happens.
We break the news.
Thanks to listeners giving us tips.
Everybody will run around and find out it's 50 times worse than even I said.
We'll find out how bad it is on the other side.
Stay there, Mark.
Then Rob, James, Bill, John, and others.
Stay with us.
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From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
alex jones
Who's always gets it when I'm in here plugging in my wires and getting on air?
What was that on purpose in there?
I'm just joking.
Paul Hartman's a great guy, nicknamed Hoosh.
Is that because you're a fan of the Hoosiers?
Used to live in Indiana, that's right.
Well, hell, just living in Indiana will put you on an Al-Qaeda list now.
We're all Al-Qaeda.
We're all criminals.
We're all bad.
We're all in deep trouble.
We all have to have Homeland Security run our lives.
Now, going back to Mark in Maryland, he says he calls the VFW Head a Jerry Newberry in fact guys look his name up online right now because I want to call him myself I mean, I'm I believe you call her, but I want to check this out for myself obviously Talking about Dan West and you said what he said next concerning for those that just joined us the VFW being told by the feds and the BATF turn your guns in and we're gonna come SWAT team basically,
you know register your guns and So we can take a full inventory of it I'll break down what happened next.
unidentified
Okay, what he said next I found alarming because it was so incriminating.
And he said the whole thing boils down to, get this, they are trying to track down weapons that have been lost and turned up at gun shows.
And that's their official story from Mr. Newberry at Public Relations VFW headquarters.
And I'll tell you something, Alex, these crazy nuts calling veterans terrorists, they're about to draw back a stump.
alex jones
You don't think the vets will say, I guess I am Al-Qaeda.
I guess I didn't know I hit us on 9-11.
I guess the red, white, and blue is Al-Qaeda.
Here's my guns.
unidentified
I didn't know I did the attack, but our government couldn't be wrong.
alex jones
Hell, abort the kids.
CPS them all.
Put fluoride in our water.
I'm a terrorist.
I mean...
Do the vets you talk to know that Homeland Security is listing them as the number one threat and training the police and paramilitary youth squads to take them on?
Here is the New York Times saying it.
unidentified
Well, I know a few vets that know about it, but to tell you the truth, most are just totally unconscious.
alex jones
Drinking heavily?
unidentified
Just don't know anything about what's going on.
And I doubt that this Mr. Newberry knew anything about what was going on.
I asked him another thing about the M1.
Our local post has been told not to use the M1.
It's been modified for blanks.
They've been told never to use it anymore, or else it would be confiscated.
And I asked him about that, and he refused to comment on it.
And you know, that's the honor guard.
Without the M1, there's no honor guard.
alex jones
Well, you can't have veterans with guns on TV.
Have you seen all the news reports about where vets will try to carry their VFW rifles in the 4th of July parade and the cops hit them and hit them hard?
unidentified
Oh, that's crazy.
alex jones
Jesus. Well, it's not if you're a slave master.
I mean, America is going to be a Nelly Uh, nanny state, but that's only the front.
Right behind it's a black mask and an iron fist.
And they are gonna, I mean, look, the bankers have openly already bankrupt the nation and stolen more money than we could ever pay back.
So they know that they're in trouble.
You just heard Ron Paul.
I mean, we're this close to getting these criminals in jail.
Imagine if we just exposed them, had them arrested.
We could start back getting our country back.
I mean, we have criminals running the nation.
Of course they're coming after the guns.
But see, this isn't alone.
You add this into Homeland Security saying veterans are the number one threat, training local police that vets are going to attack.
Here's the New York Times.
Ten minutes into the errant mayhem in the town near the Mexican border, and the gunman, a disgruntled Iraq war veteran, has already taken out two people.
One slumped at a desk, the other covered in blood on the floor.
The responding officers, eight teenage boys and girls, the youngest 14, face tripwire, a thin cloud of poisonous gas and loud shouts.
Bam! Bam!
Fire from behind a flimsy wall.
They move quickly.
Pellet guns drawn and mask affixed.
United States Border Patrol.
Hands up!
Screams out one voice.
Now, again, they know Border Patrol's popular, so all these Homeland Security shows and all these shows brainwashing the kids, they call them Border Patrol, but then they practice taking on vets and confiscating guns.
And this goes on all over the nation, not just with the Boy Scouts.
There it is.
Right there.
This is what they're gearing up for.
They admit it!
And I don't think listeners understand, I'm not just saying that.
People email me and say, oh, you're exaggerating.
No, this, you know, you heard the retired cop call in from Missouri.
He said, no, they've already tried to recruit us in the VFW and the Marine Corps Veterans Group to spy on neighbors in Tattle.
I've covered and been sent by listeners the videos of the FBI in every town and city has these meetings where they say, we want your community to come volunteer to help look for terrorists.
And then when you show up to it, they teach you, alright, we're fighting Al-Qaeda, and gun owners, and pot dealers, and we're going to spy on people abusing their kids.
Did you see your neighbor over the fence spat their kid?
Call police.
Call CPS.
See? So it sounds good.
Come here and fight Al-Qaeda that hit us.
You get there and they go, okay, Al-Qaeda.
We're going to spend five minutes on Al-Qaeda and the next three days on veterans.
I know some of you're veterans, but you're the good veterans.
There's some bad ones.
unidentified
Well, what it comes down to is they've turned the entire Patriot Act, something that was adopted, you know, to do a good thing, they've turned the entire thing around on the United States people.
And it's a gun aimed at us, and we're about to get it.
alex jones
Well, they said it was the fight.
Go ahead.
unidentified
I wish we could somehow...
I don't know how you could do it.
But sponsor some sort of a million-man march on D.C. Let them know we need it.
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God bless you, sir.
We're going to call those phone numbers.
And folks, don't call too much until I've had a chance to call.
It won't matter the media is going to get a hold of this and you'll see all these quotes in the news about we can't have veterans with guns and Yeah, these are BATF investigations I said first hour about this probably has to do with BATF at gun shows and this will be their excuse to intimidate the VFW and turn them all into stenches And that's now what he was basically saying Let's go to more callers.
Let's talk to Rob in Texas and then James Bill John and others go ahead Rob Hey Alex, how you doing?
Good. What do you think is going on here?
unidentified
Well, I'm not quite sure.
I'm a quartermaster at one of the VFWs here in Texas.
And I got this email.
I posted it on one of our forums back on April 22nd.
And one of the things I'm kind of wondering about is there's a requirement for the VFWs to report all their ceremonial rifles every three years to TACOM.
and what raises a question in my mind is why all of a sudden they need to inventory everything.
Because all these cannons and artillery and everything that the VFW owns except for the ceremonial rifles are all de-milled.
They're non-functional.
alex jones
That's right.
For those that don't know, when you drive in front of a VFW in a little town and you see an army tank and a helicopter, if it even has the Gatling gun on the Cobra, or if it even has The main gun, the howitzer on the tank, it's been filled.
It's had hot metal poured down into it.
It's been spiked.
But the issue is, again, you are the terrorist.
This is a way to introduce you to the BATF, introduce you to secret police, where you're intimidated, and you're going to feel good when the BATF and FBI and Homeland Security Office says, oh, it's all right.
You're not in trouble.
We want you to work for us.
And you're thinking about a rifle that came up missing 10 years ago, and you're going, all right, what do you need to know?
We just want you to fight Al Qaeda.
By the way, and watch your neighbors.
No, I'm serious.
That's how this goes.
unidentified
I know, and I have some concerns with the VFW, especially with the DHS report calling all of us veterans terrorists.
I saw the memo from the national commander, and they were basically supporting the government's decision to do this.
alex jones
I remember that.
I remember when the VFW came out on TV and said, I know it seems strange that the veterans are the number one threat, not even al-Qaeda, and gun owners are number two, and then al-Qaeda.
Evil vets, evil gun owners, al-Qaeda.
And that was on national news going, but veterans are bad.
They're dangerous.
unidentified
Right, and I don't know.
I don't appreciate that.
And the American Legion...
alex jones
Oh yeah.
unidentified
The whole problem is, is the American public in general is in denial of what's going on.
They think that, oh, everything's gonna be okay, we're gonna turn around and vote Republican, or do something to where our government isn't gonna walk all over us.
I don't see that happening.
alex jones
No, no, no.
When the Republicans are in power, the right foot steps forward.
And when the Democrats are in power, the left foot steps forward.
Can't we look below the leg, I mean, past the legs and the body in the New World Order?
You've got these international bankers, or the body, argh, North Com's their arms, the IRS is their mouth to devour us, and they've just sprouted a new mouth that's the green taxes, the carbon tax, and sprouting a new mouth, the new oil tax, and it's just a bunch of mouths cramming us into it, and we debate the legs all day instead of the body and the arms and the head.
You see what I'm saying?
unidentified
Oh, yeah, definitely.
alex jones
And they're just grabbing whole families, grabbing farms, ranches.
They grabbed GM and just went, ah, blah, blah.
paid to send it overseas.
unidentified
Well, the whole thing, you know, is until this starts affecting the average everyday person, they're just not going to pay attention.
No matter how many people are calling attention to this.
alex jones
As long as they do it incrementally, the cowards aren't going to wake up.
Look, the cowards are saying Bilderberg doesn't exist, Global Bank doesn't exist, even when it's in hundreds of newspapers, because previously they were told it didn't exist.
So they'll look at me and say, I don't care if the news says it's real.
It ain't real and you're a kook.
unidentified
And that's what they...
Well, even on my forums they treat the Infowarriors as a bunch of kooks, which, you know, kind of offends me.
alex jones
Well, they love being slaves.
I mean, it's a religion to submit.
A religion to make excuses.
Their 501c3 churches are under federal control publicly.
We broke it two years before it was national news.
Training them to turn their guns in and go to FEMA camps.
I mean, you know, they're training everybody to get ready for the FEMA camps.
I mean, they're really planning to do this.
And they're gonna take everything you got, all you stupid good ol' boys.
unidentified
You worry.
If you don't, you don't understand the situation.
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Notice they say, oh, we're not spying on you.
Then, oh, we are spying, but it's only off to Al-Qaeda.
And the courts and Congress say they can have no more Fourth Amendment.
And they say, yeah, we're going to spy on everybody for everything.
And, oh, we can waterboard.
That's not torture.
We're going to waterboard you for anything we want.
They already have pressure compliance, pain compliance, where they court ruled last week in the US.
They can taser you to make you talk, to make you give DNA.
Oh, that's not torture.
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And they say to make you talk, but it's not torture.
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You know when he's electrocuting Winston Smith in 1984, O'Brien is?
It's not torture.
No! And that's exactly what O'Brien would say.
This isn't torture.
This is medical aid I'm giving you, Winston.
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Oh, yeah.
Oh, that's not torture.
And again, oh, there's not a world government.
We're just announcing it.
You know, oh, the veterans.
We're going to SWAT team you.
If you don't report it, that old cannon you've got from the Civil War.
This is about making the military Veterans, you're going to be sub-citizens now.
You're going to be spied on, hated, watched, not able to own firearms.
It's all being announced.
I told you years ago you were the number one terror threat to Homeland Security.
I've been to the training drills.
NORTHCOM is for you, and it's for me, a gun owner.
And you were going along with it, going, yeah, fight them brown al-Qaeda's!
Those brown al-Qaeda's work for the bankers.
Let's go ahead and Go to James in the UK, then Bill, John, Mark, and others.
Go ahead, James.
Hello? Yes, sir.
unidentified
Hi, Alex.
Firstly, I'm going to have to apologize to you, because I didn't know you only wanted to talk about it today, so I can't listen to you live.
alex jones
Well, that's okay.
Since you're here, go ahead.
unidentified
First, I wanted to bring to your attention a big news article we've got here today on Sky News, and the headline is, London Police Accused of Water Torture, and I emphasize the word torture.
Well, basically, six London police officers have been suspended for waterboarding four drug suspects.
alex jones
Yeah, same thing here.
No, no.
Everybody's going to be tortured.
They're going to increase the tasers from 50,000 watts or volts to 70,000.
And they are going to make you on airplanes wear a shock necklace and shock bracelet.
Homeland Security announced it.
People didn't believe it.
In fact, guys, YouTube Taser bracelets for air travel and then the company that did this homeland security is considering Making you wear and it's like it's freedom.
Everybody gets a shock necklace in America.
What are you without?
I Mean it's just total how is that not insanity that we'll all be wearing shock necklaces and bracelets.
unidentified
That sounds like freedom Nothing surprises me in this world anymore.
alex jones
I'm not kidding.
I'm not kidding.
I'm not kidding about this They'd just shoot us in the head if they could Well that's next Will they do that in Fallujah if you don't have your ID in order?
I have Tom Brokaw right before he retired saying they line the families up they don't have the cards, they're all shot God is my witness I have Tom Brokaw saying that I played it four or five years I'm sorry, I'm going to shut up You go ahead and make your point Uh, yeah, basically I just wanted to bring an article to everyone's attention.
unidentified
If they want to Google it, the headline is London Police Accused of Water Torture.
And, uh, also I wanted to, uh, I know you've got quite a few UK listeners, and I wanted them to point them into the direction of a new website we've released for UK people, uh, against the New World Order, and the URL is www.freetourmindnow.tk.
Great. Because, uh, basically we realized there wasn't any real sites Alright, well thank you so much.
alex jones
Good to hear from you.
Let's jam in one more and then continue after the break.
Let's talk to Bill in Connecticut, probably another evil gun owner.
Terrorist, do you own a firearm, sir?
bill in connecticut
Hey, what's going on, Alex?
alex jones
Do you own a firearm?
Absolutely. Okay, we got a terrorist.
I'm serious.
You are, according to the federal government, a terrorist.
Number one threat.
North Com is for you.
Terrorist, what do you have to say?
bill in connecticut
I'm a scary guy.
In any case, hey, Alex, I just wanted to point out a couple things to you here that you've said on a few other shows, and I can't believe it.
I was sitting there reading yesterday, doing my laundry, and The Economist Okay?
In The Economist, they turn around on...
I don't have the page here, but it's their new technology thing.
The Spies in the Skies.
Military technology that blimps equipped with remote sensing.
This is in The Economist.
alex jones
Doesn't exist.
Economist doesn't exist either, sir.
You're having a mass schizophrenic event with me right now.
None... This video of troops confiscating guns?
Preparing for it?
Not real either.
unidentified
Stay there.
alex jones
Stay with us.
I wanna hear the rest of it.
unidentified
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Okay, for about 10 minutes or so, I got We Are Change LA who are just kicking butt.
They've confronted General Richard Myers, Vice President Joe Biden, ex-CFR President Lindsey Glebe.
L.A. County Sheriff Lee Baca, LAPD Chief Bratton three times, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, CIA Case Officer Robert Baer, General Wesley Cart, Summer Redstone, CIA Director Michael V. Hayden, what an effeminate demon, Philip Shinnen, Representative Grace Napolitano, L.A. City Council Scott McClellan, Mike Revell, Simon Wiesenthal Center, David Frum, Jane Harman, Mitt Romney.
They get in front of the Simon Wiesenthal Center because they went before Congress and said, anybody who's a 9-11 truth is a Nazi Al-Qaeda.
I mean, we got the video in Congress.
They said, architecture engineers from 9-11 Truth hate Jews.
Nothing to do, we don't talk about, I mean, they're the ones pushing anti-Semitism.
And it makes people go, ooh, why are you covering up 9-11?
I mean, it interjects it into it.
That's coming up in about five minutes.
I wanted to finish up with a caller if he's still there.
Who was I talking to?
Bill in Connecticut?
Okay, Bill, you still there?
bill in connecticut
Yes, sir.
alex jones
Okay, so hold on just a second, though.
I'm not...
Listen, it's not, ooh, Alex told me about secret surveillance blimps and now the news admits it.
It's been admitted!
It's just, I go on national shows and they laugh at me and say, he believes there's big blimps, everybody knows they're flying saucers, and I go, no, it's a government, homeland security blimp, here's the government purchase order, and the media laughs, but go ahead.
bill in connecticut
Yeah, well, no, I just, you know, I just found it amazing.
I mean, I'm sitting there doing my laundry and I said, oh my God, that's the same thing that was on Alex Jones' show.
I was going, you've got to be kidding.
At any rate, there's one other thing I wanted to point out here today, on today's MSNBC.com, okay?
The other story that you were talking about pertaining to the grandmother who was zapped by the cop.
unidentified
Yes. This is on.
bill in connecticut
I'm looking at it right now.
Today's MSNBC.com.
They say here, great-grandmother dared cop.
Dared the cop to tase her.
So we did.
And they have the film.
It says, woman 72s refuse to sign traffic ticket.
An argument and then a zap.
alex jones
And then she finally submitted and said, I'll do it.
And that's when he zapped her.
And the mainstream media, they just released this two days ago.
We were talking about weeks ago before they released it.
And of course, his story is not exactly what he said and her story isn't exactly what she said.
That's normally how it is.
But the issue is the media loves it.
Legitimizing. Look, tasering women for not signing tickets is good.
And that message is...
bill in connecticut
That's aggressive force, man.
alex jones
Well, look, pretty soon they're going to line well women up and blow their heads off.
Right. And if the yuppies think that's going to get them some money, they'll do it.
Right. So, you got to worry about the government and then the sheep.
The sheep are very dangerous.
bill in connecticut
Right. Well, the other thing I wanted to just mention real quick, when I called you the other week when you had Jesse Ventura on, did I hear him correctly?
I mean, was he like selling out, sitting there saying, give me the post in Cuba so I can go down there and drink rum and smoke cigars and I'll do whatever you say?
Was that what he was saying?
alex jones
I didn't hear him say that.
I mean, it's a joke saying, I would love to be the first ambassador to Cuba.
Okay. And, yeah, I mean, in a way he's saying, you know, he's obsessed with scuba diving and the beach and surfing.
Sure. And so, and so the joke was, I want a job.
Yeah, he's saying, he's saying, no, it was in the, he was in the body of discussion.
I mean, it's all the connotation it's in.
It's all how it's framed.
He's saying we ought to open up Cuba.
50 years of sanctions is stupid.
I'll be the first ambassador.
So it was a joke.
Right, right, right.
bill in connecticut
Alright, no, that's cool.
I just, you know, When I was hearing that, I was going, whoa, are you kidding?
alex jones
I don't think he said, I'm going to sell out.
He said, give me the post in Cuba.
bill in connecticut
Right. Anyway, all right.
alex jones
Well, we all know it's not going to happen, so let's not hold our breath.
bill in connecticut
There you go.
Anyway, I'm going to send you some money for your money bomb, and keep up the good work.
You're doing a hell of a job.
alex jones
God bless you, my friend.
I appreciate it.
Yeah. What is 30,000 times 12?
Or 30 times 12?
What's 30 times 12?
$360,000 a year in IT bills here at this office.
$360,000.
Over $20,000 of that is bandwidth and then the two IT guys.
Folks, I mean, I have to sit here and hustle just to, it's like a locomotive going towards the New World Order on the tracks.
And I'm shoveling coal in.
And so I end up spending my time trying to make the money to pay for websites getting millions of views a week.
To pay to serve out, what's 150,000 free podcasts six days a week?
What's six times 150,000?
That's almost a million four-hour podcasts.
That costs a lot of money.
I mean, that's where...
I mean, literally, Literally, I've got a decent house and a decent car.
It's a Chrysler car.
Nothing fancy.
And that is that much of my money.
I mean, eating decent food, taking care of my kids and my wife is that much.
Here's the money this operation makes.
Here's the money this operation makes.
Here's the money I'm keeping.
That's how I can get up here and ask for money.
People say on YouTube, man, he doesn't look like a Tell Evangelist Hessen for money.
He looks sincere, because I am sincere.
I'm sincerely waging war on the New World Order.
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I'm sincerely taking on the globalists.
I'm sincerely breaking massive news story after massive news story.
Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com are treasures.
They are treasures.
Because we can break major stories.
You heard the caller earlier, I have no reason to doubt him, saying a month ago he posted on their forum the VFW order to register all their firearms and old equipment for basically for confiscation down the road by the BATF.
I'm sure he did.
The point is we got it, we put it out, now it's big.
Whatever we put out ends up in the news, because we do the research, we have the documents, we make the phone calls, we put it out, it breaks.
Do you know the value of being able to warn people about federal and state legislation that's bad?
There were people for weeks fighting this bill that had passed the House, going to the Governor's desk, to be able to kidnap people's kids with no Fourth Amendment, with no judge, jury order, nothing.
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We put that up Friday, and then it was all over the news and everywhere this week.
I mean, literally, the Wall Street Journal's doing a big cover story on me, Psychology Today has a bunch of other big papers, and of course there are going to be hit pieces, but I can't turn them down, because then, You know, they'll just be their side.
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And they'll say, Alex refused to be, you know, talked to for this.
But they're saying, why are you so big?
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Everyone's talking about it.
I mean, folks, this radio show, the websites, the films, I'm going to, we are changing the moment, I'm sorry, I'm late getting to them.
This is all just absolutely amazing!
And I know I babble, I know I stutter, I know I'm goofy, I know I act stupid, I know, but I'm real, folks!
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I think they're not that good.
And I get your criticisms.
A lot of it's legitimate, I know.
I'm a sorry excuse for a human being.
But I'm doing the best I can.
And I'll take 100% of this money bomb, and depending on how much comes in, I'll hire a couple of video editors, a couple of webmasters, a moderator for the site, maybe more if we have some, or I might have to shut down the comments.
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I've got Walter Williams, the economist, coming on at the start of the next hour.
He's only got 10 minutes of air time with our guys, so I appreciate him joining us.
Bruno Braweiler, I think I'm pronouncing that right.
Jeremy joins us as well.
And Stuart Howe.
And there's a whole bunch of folks, one of the most active We Are Change.
These are just grassroots groups.
You believe 9-11's an inside job, government-sponsored terror, you want to defeat the New World Order, you can create your own We Are Change.
There's no central group.
I get calls saying, are you the head of We Are Change?
Do you secretly run it?
No! I don't even know 99% of these people.
These are volunteers out asking real questions at media events.
General Myers is quite a snake.
Stuart Howe, Bruno, Jeremy.
I've got this video, we posted it days ago.
I know it's at WeAreChange, LA, WAC, LA.org, but we're going to play some of it after the break, but in a nutshell, why was it so important?
Whoever wants to speak up first, go ahead.
Maybe Stuart wasn't there, but Bruno was, I know Jeremy was, but you guys have been at many other events as well confronting people.
Why was this important?
Who is General Myers, for people that don't know?
unidentified
This is Jeremy.
Thank you very much, Alex, for having us on, and I appreciate all the good work that you're doing.
Richard Myers was the acting head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on 9-11 while the real head was out of town, like many other important people on that day.
And since that day, he's changed his story numerous times about where he was when the building that he operates out of the Pentagon was hit.
And he doesn't...
alex jones
And Cheney has changed his story, too, repeatedly, but go ahead.
unidentified
And he doesn't appear to desire to really clear his whole role and all of this up.
He doesn't want to come really clean about all of these memetic war games and terror drills that were occurring at the same time that the terror attacks actually were pulled off.
So at this point, at the very least, he's considered a suspect in the 9-11 blackout.
alex jones
I'll say it.
No way he wasn't involved.
He was in there making sure NORAD stood down.
That's on record.
I'll say it.
General Myers is complicit.
unidentified
I'm with you, Doug.
alex jones
That's why we labeled him a criminal.
unidentified
Even though the justice system is not yet brought up to the judge, Hold on, hold on, hold on.
alex jones
One at a time.
We got two folks talking and I'm getting a little bit of static on these lines.
Who was jumping in there?
unidentified
Bruno, this is Bruno.
I just want to agree that we need to call the criminals out for who they are.
He's a 9-11 criminal and that's how we labeled the video.
You know, General Myers is a 9-11 criminal.
alex jones
Yeah. Who's got the crackly line there or is somebody on the same line together?
I'm not sure.
You know, I think we need to call out all the criminals for who they are.
unidentified
Call them criminals.
We've reached a threshold in the 9-11 Truth Movement.
People, it's growing quickly.
These people are getting scared, and let's just call them what they are.
They're treasonous traitors, 9-11 criminals, and let's not be nice about it anymore.
alex jones
Yeah, there's no doubt they stood down, Norad.
There's no doubt they ran the exact drills, the exact targets, being hit the exact time.
Bruno, you had a lot of courage.
So did Jeremy and Stuart Howe as well, countless others confronting them.
I mean, to go into this crowd and then these neocons assault you as you agree to leave.
They hit you, punch you, and cuss at you, and hit you hard with pleasure and enjoyment.
unidentified
Amen.
It's true.
Yeah, it's sick, but we kind of knew that was going to happen when we went in, and it's just part of, you know, the intensity of the moment, it's so rewarding just to stand up and tell the truth.
And I handed out Oathkeeper cards to Many people, veterans in the audience, before I stood up, if people aren't aware of what Oath Keepers are, they should look it up, because police officers and military are responding really positively to that.
They're fast growing.
alex jones
Well, if I've ever seen spook and bad intelligence people, those were old retired spooks that were attacking you.
And just shameful people.
Stay there, gentlemen.
I want to come back to you and briefly get into what happened while you were there and tell folks to go to the website W-A-C-L-A dot O-R-G.
My site's at PrisonPlanet.tv, InfoWars.com.
I am Alex Jones, and I was there at the beginning of the 9-11 Truth Movement, and I pray to be there at the end when these criminals are brought to justice.
Stay with us.
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alex jones
Yeah, next week I'm gonna have the folks from We Are Change LA on for a full hour.
I gotta get Luke on, too, from New York.
Just all of them are so great.
In closing, we let Bruno go because of his bad line.
Bruno really got roughed up by these guys, but they were so cowardly.
They're saying, get out, but they're trying to hold him there for the police.
Get out!
Then they hold you so they can get you for trespassing at a public event, or he actually bought a ticket for it, and then shoving him.
Finishing up, Bruno and So, this is Jeremy, and so Bruno stood up and called out General Richard Myers and asked him how we could trust him when he's clearly contradicted his own stories around 9-11.
unidentified
And then quickly he was booed.
And, uh, a man, uh, who, a private individual, uh, was the primary one to try to push him out as he tried to warn people about their freedoms being taken away.
And then he was taken out, and then, uh, a few moments later, I couldn't handle it because they were, they were applauding and they were apologizing to the, uh, the alleged general, um, for him having to deal with this.
And I, so I couldn't take it, so I stood up and I said, that man was, was telling the truth.
He has changed his story, and at that point, the same private individual came over and dragged me out into the aisle and then gave me a chokehold and pulled me out while I asked him whether this was America and whether he was a patriot.
And then when we finally got out, he said, he told me, there were children in there!
Like, he was disturbed that I had made him do violence in front of the children.
alex jones
So it was a very interesting sort of form of life.
What was great was that once we got outside, one lone proud citizen came out.
unidentified
And verify to the police that I had been choked and that many of the people in the audience had been clapping.
And not that he agreed with my action, but he stood up for my right to take that action.
So it's always the lone individual who stands up who becomes the bastion of freedom in the future.
alex jones
Yeah, or the cops were going to take you to jail for daring to buy a ticket and then go in and ask a question at an event, and you were going to go to jail for being choked.
That's how the twisted justice works now in this country, but people are standing up and saying no.
unidentified
Right. And I, we realized later that I didn't, I failed to give the direct command to the police officers to go in and apprehend the man saying that I wanted to press charges.
alex jones
You've got to tell him, you must, you know, I'm filing a complaint, I've been assaulted.
You've got to tell him to go after him.
Real fast, anything from Stewart about what's happening?
unidentified
Oh, thanks, Alex.
Yeah, you know, I was in the periphery on this one, but I'm just so proud of everybody and change.
It's just we all have our opportunities to stand up when we can, how we can.
The way you put it before we came on, I thought was great.
You know, this is real and we're just, we're genuine people doing our best because of the weight and the gravity of the importance of what's going on.
So, you know, I'm just like thrilled about What's going on, not only with us out here, but across the country.
You know, at every opportunity, people are standing up and saying, the emperor wears no clothes, and we're just doing our best, man.
alex jones
And what it comes down to in the final equation is, you know you're good out there.
You know, those of you listening, that you are a patriot.
You're not New World Order.
That, you know, that you have great ideas.
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Go to press conferences.
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Start a blog.
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All that evil Thank you so much for joining us.
I want to have you guys all on for a full hour next week to break down all the great work you're doing and talk more.
Thanks for coming on.
unidentified
Thank you Alex.
alex jones
You bet.
We'll be right back with Walter Williams.
Stay with us.
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Waging war on corruption.
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Liberty vs.
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Versus the Tyranny of Socialism is his new book.
He's a best-selling author.
You've heard him fill in for some of the biggest talk shows in the country, the biggest, Rush Limbaugh, and do his own show from time to time, WalterEWilliams.com.
And I was telling him during the break when we first got him online that I like him a lot more than I like Rush Limbaugh, because I like the fact that he's a professor, that he covers economics, and that he really exposes, when I hear him on air, the hypocrisy of the Republican Party.
Well, thank you, you it's great to have you here with us for those that may know who you are most probably dead tell us a little bit about yourself
unidentified
Well, I'm a professor of economics.
I've been teaching at George Mason University in Fairfax, Virginia for going on 30 years.
And my big job is trying to convince my fellow Americans on the moral superiority of individual liberty and its main ingredient, limited government.
It's a hard job.
alex jones
What do you think of Ron Paul?
unidentified
I think he's a great guy.
I think he's one of the few, and perhaps you can only name five, four or five congressmen, that if the founders were to come back, they would speak to.
He's one of the few that they would have respect for.
alex jones
So you think he's founding Father Caliber, or they would just talk to him?
unidentified
I think they would talk to him.
That is, most congressmen, they have utter contempt for the Constitution of the United States and the moral principles that were the bedrock at our founding.
And when I say that, I'm not sure if I'm not sure if I'm not sure if A lot of people say, well, what are you talking about?
Well, if you read through the Constitution, the founders gave the government, the Congress, 21 things to do.
And it's listed in Article 1, Section 8 of the United States Constitution.
And if it's not there, they can't do it.
And to give you an idea how far we've strayed, James Madison, who's the acknowledged father of the Constitution, he said in 1794, when Congress appropriated $15,000 to help some French refugees, All these quotes are available on my website at waltywilliams.com.
He says, I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article in the Constitution that allows Congress to take the money of their constituents for the purposes of benevolence.
Now, if you look at the federal budget today, two-thirds or three-quarters of it is for the purpose of benevolence.
That is, the major function of the United States Congress today is that of It's
nothing more than legalized theft.
alex jones
And now it becomes more and more obvious with government just running wild at every level.
Isn't the government just becoming a gang with a flag, with a bunch of enforcers?
unidentified
They're becoming Congress and the White House, and they've been this way for a long time.
has just escalated recently.
They're just a group of thugs.
alex jones
Well, there's no doubt of that.
I mean, we see all these reports where Congress is exempt from most of the laws they pass on us.
Isn't that one of the hallmarks of tyranny?
unidentified
Well, that is perhaps right.
That is, what people talk about rule of law and equality for the law, it means that the same rules, the same laws that you and I must obey also apply to people in government.
They must also obey them.
That is, if something is immoral for you and I to do, It's immoral for government to do.
alex jones
Amazing. We got 25 minutes left with him after this break.
He's Walter E. Williams, and the website's WalterEWilliams.com.
Can't forget that.
We have links to it up on our websites.
Just absolutely great to have him on.
I remember listening to him when I was in college, way back in the early 1990s.
Just great to have him on with us.
We'll be right back after this quick break.
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The Obama deception completely destroys the myth that Obama is working for the best interest of the American people.
Well, Obama's already fudging.
He's fudged since day one in this election.
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alex jones
Well, he is a professor of economics, best-selling author, nationally syndicated radio talk show host in his part-time, and a syndicated columnist.
Walterewilliams.com, his latest column out today is Americans Love Government.
But I was making the point during the break to him, isn't that because we've been domesticated, brought up in it, not knowing how good it is without this giant government, and people don't know that in every case in history, government grows till it destroys the society.
Can you speak to that, sir, as you grow up?
Yes, I can.
unidentified
That is, if you look at the federal government now as a percentage of our GDP, the federal government spends something like 22% of our GDP, and state and local governments spend up to, I think the total amount goes to near 40% of the GDP is spent by government in our country.
Now, from 1787, the inception of our nation, from 1787 until the 1920s, the federal government spent only 3% of the GDP, except during wartime, and the state and local governments spent around 9% of the GDP, and so making for a total of 12% of the GDP, as opposed to close to 40%, was being spent by government.
And keep in mind that in 1787, we were a third world nation, and by 1920, we were the most powerful nation on the face of Earth, and we were rich.
That is, we went through this whole interval without a big government.
And it turns out something else that's significant that Americans just plain don't know is that the idea that New deal.
This is a new idea.
That is, we've had recessions and depressions that went from one year to seven years throughout our whole history.
As a matter of fact, in 1920, there was a sharp, very, very sharp downturn in the economy.
There was no government program.
Uh, we went off after that in 1922, we went through the Roaring Twenties.
In the 1790s, there was a Great Depression.
Uh, matter of fact, uh, it was, I think, like seven years, and there was no government program.
Now, the government programs that deal with recessions came when there's a sharp turn down in the economy in 1929, 1930.
And the Hoover administration, uh, started the government programs, and, and Roosevelt just, uh, followed on with it with the New Deal.
And Japan has now 12, 13 years doing the same thing.
alex jones
And I'm studying those panics, as they called them, and those depressions.
They were much shorter.
They were much more localized.
Uh, back before the Federal Reserve, back before government got involved, back before private interest got involved with government, in this unholy alliance, and they promised we'll never have another run on the bank, we'll never have another recession or depression, and then 1913 to 1929, they then take that depression and just exacerbate it with all the price controls and the rest of it.
unidentified
Oh yeah, absolutely.
And you're one of the rather, Martin, the current set of problems that we face now is A direct result of Congress, that is.
I always suggest to people that the fundamentals of the American economy are, even now, still reasonably sound.
We have this huge problem in the financial sector.
The financial sector is a big problem, and it's affecting some other parts of the economy.
But Congress is the cause of the problems in the financial sector, particularly those that stem from the subprime loans and the housing market.
alex jones
It's been enabling it and demanding it and prodding it all along, and then now is enabling it further, $14.8 trillion in seven months, Bloomberg reported.
I mean, my God, that's more than the GDP in seven months.
unidentified
That's right.
And the American people, I mean, I don't know what to say about my fellow Americans, but they're asking Congress to come and help us out, to change things.
That is, to ask Congress to help us, that's very much like seeing a building on fire and you calling the arsons who set it on fire to help you put it out.
That's the same thing.
And Congress is the cause of the problem.
And you know what gets me about the, I call it stupidity of Americans, or either the ignorance of Americans, is that Congress messed up.
This current state of affairs was a result of Congress trying to give us, and the White House, trying to give us affordable housing.
Now we're asking Congress to give us affordable health care.
Right.
alex jones
Bloomberg reported that $9.3 trillion would pay off all the mortgages in the country.
So if it's $14.8 trillion so far, where is all the money going?
I mean, this is ridiculous, and they're admitting now that it's driven up mortgage prices because the banks have got all this money.
They're just wanting to hoard it or to buy up other banks.
unidentified
Oh, that's right.
And see, what Congress should do, what should happen is that people who got in over their heads in the housing market, they bought houses they cannot afford, they should just lose their house and they should be foreclosed on.
That is, if you, you know, I think it was Herbert Spencer said, I believe it was him, it could have been somebody else, that if you protect people from the folly of their ways, you create a nation of fools.
And that's what we're doing.
We're protecting people from their folly and therefore creating a nation of fools.
And see, the problem is that too many of us want to blame politicians for our problems.
And yes, we can blame politicians just a little bit, but the bulk of the blame lies with the Americans.
I don't That is because politicians are doing precisely what American people elect them to office to do.
And what do we elect them to office to do?
We elect them to office to use the power of their office to take the property of one American and give it to us.
alex jones
Now, let's shift gears.
Let's shift gears, sir, into Barack Obama.
Clearly, George Bush's size of government triples.
I thought that was bad.
Now, under Obama, he's doubling the government.
In one year, if you project that out ten times by the time he leaves office, or even more so specifically, sir...
unidentified
I don't know whether that's sustainable, but surely that's what he's doing.
And that's what the American people want.
That's what they want.
Look, if you doubt what I'm saying, what the American people want, let me ask you a question.
Now, suppose I, Walter Williams, was running for the United States Senate from Texas, and I go back and forth across the state of Texas, telling my fellow Texans, "Look, I've read the United States Constitution.
I know what Congress is authorized to do." No, because Maybe in Texas, but in other states, no, because they don't understand.
alex jones
The feds take a dollar of our money, send 30 cents back with strings attached.
unidentified
But you know, here's the problem, Alex, is that the people of Texas would be absolutely right not electing anybody who respects the United States Constitution to the United States Senate.
The reason why is that, for example, if I am the senator and I don't bring back billions of dollars to Texans, that doesn't mean that Texas Exactly.
Yes. Oh, that's a great point.
alex jones
I hadn't thought of that.
That's what Ron Paul's always saying.
They say he's a hypocrite because he votes against the bills, but then, the spending bills, but once the money comes in, he says, look, I'm going to earmark this because The money was spent.
I mean, now you're paying these taxes.
You don't want it to come back for the shrimp fisheries of the Gulf Coast?
I mean, I represent the Gulf Coast.
And so if I don't take this earmark, it's going to go to foreign aid or something.
unidentified
That is absolutely right.
So it makes people who would otherwise be moral, they become immoral.
That is because if you don't participate in the legalized theft, you're going to wind up holding the brown end of the stick.
alex jones
Wow. Amazing.
Sir, you've been around a while.
You've made a lot of predictions I've seen come true.
What do you see happening with Obama with this false hope?
He knows government health care ain't gonna work.
He knows trillions spent is just gonna down the road make things even worse.
I mean, I guess the special interests want all this money, and they're the ones that put him in office, but how do you see this ending with Barack Obama and all these people that followed him and believe he's really gonna give him a free house, give him a free car?
You know, the people you see on TV saying, all my problems are solved because of Obama.
unidentified
You know, I don't know what to predict, but however, the current state of affairs is unsustainable.
I mean, just one aspect, forget about the We're good to
promises it's already made to people who are living today in terms of Medicare and Social Security, they would have to put trillions of dollars in the bank today, earning at least a 6% rate of interest in order to make good for it.
And they're not going to do that.
And according to some estimates, such as the National Center for Policy Analysis in Dallas, Texas, they point out that by 2040, I believe something like You know, given the current state of affairs, if it continues the way it's going now, that 80% of the federal budget will be spent on Social Security and Medicare.
alex jones
Amazing. 80%.
Let's talk more about that in our final segment with Walter E. Williams.
Walterewilliams.com.
He is our guest.
I hope he'll come back again with us soon.
I want to talk to him about GM.
Not only is there a bailout of GM, but there The bailout money under World Trade Organization rules, part of it has to go overseas, so we're paying to ship it to China and Brazil and Europe.
Stay with us.
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The Obama deception completely destroys the myth that Obama is working for the best interest of the American people.
Well, Obama's already fudging.
unidentified
He's fudged since day one of this election.
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Walter E. Williams is our guest.
We had a bizarre power outage here in the studio.
We're on backup.
We'll see if we can stay on the air here together.
Mr. Williams continuing.
GM, the trillions to the banks, and the government's now saying they're just going to expand and intensify all of this.
Are they going to just continue to dump money on this until They completely destroy us, or how do you see this unfolding?
unidentified
Well, I don't know.
I think a lot of things that they're doing is unsustainable, but I think that the whole idea about Detroit and GM and other companies going bankrupt, I think that people don't quite understand what bankruptcy means.
If they did, I don't think they would let government get away with what they're doing.
That is, it's almost when you hear people talk, you know, when the airline goes bankrupt or if an auto company goes bankrupt, people think as, talk as if the company, the productive assets are going to go poof and disappear into thin air.
Like if the airline went bankrupt, the airline is going to go poof and disappear into thin air, or the assembly line Detroit will go poof.
No, what bankruptcy means is that there's a change in the title to those assets.
Somebody else will own those assets if it ultimately goes bankrupt, but there's an intermediate step, they can go to Chapter 11 first.
But the point is, is that...
When government bails out companies, they're telling them, keep on doing what you're doing.
See, the important thing about a market system is that failure, business failure, is just as critical to the operation of a market system as business success.
That is, business success says you're doing the right thing, you're pleasing your customers, and you're doing it in a reasonable way.
Thank you.
Failure means that you're not pleasing your customers, or you're doing it in an inefficient way.
You're wasting resources of the society.
Now when government steps in to bail out a failing business, it says, in effect says, continue wasting the resources of society.
Here's the money.
Americans won't buy your damn cars, so here's the money.
We'll take the money from the Americans and give it to you.
alex jones
Well, Mr. Williams, expanding on that, the media keeps confusing this and saying capitalism failed, now we've got to have socialism with the cover of Newsweek.
That's a grand deception.
I've noticed they've been parroting as a talking point.
This isn't free market that did this.
This was the state merging with some type of crony insider corruption.
What do you call that?
How do you boil that down and explain this as a bait-and-switch?
unidentified
People call it crony capitalism, and that is, you know, just to give you one example, We had this with the housing market, that we had this Community Reinvestment Act that intimidated banks into making loans that they otherwise would not have made.
Now, banks would not lend people to buy a house, to buy a $200,000, $500,000 house with no money down.
It required the government to intimidate banks to do that.
That's not capitalism.
Under a free market system, a banker would not do that.
He will do it when the government says, we want you to do it.
Unless we're not going to give you a merger.
And then plus, if we had this Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to buy the rotten paper that you sell.
And so, it's not capitalism at all.
It's socialism that has failed.
But the news media and politicians are doing a bait and switch.
They're deceiving the American people.
alex jones
Well, Mr. Williams, in the few minutes we have left with you, What is your solution?
How do we get out of this?
Just educate the public that it's a fraud?
Because there are all these corrupt corporate interests that are not free market, that are some of the biggest corporations in the world, and they've made an alliance with corrupt government, and then with the dumbed-down kind of howling mob, as John Adams would call it.
unidentified
i mean how do we deal with this i'm not sure i think that they we we need to with we can't deal with politicians there there there there are hopeless in terms of respect for the constitution We have to do, and I think that talk radio has been very, very important on a number of the blogs that have been burned.
We have to somehow sell the American people on the moral superiority of individual liberty, which means limited government.
We have to sell the American people on individual responsibility.
We have to sell the American people that, you know, Americans are very generous, and we have to tell people that, look, Praiseworthy and laudable when you reach into your own pockets to help them out.
When you reach into somebody else's pockets to help your fellow man in need, that is worthy of condemnation, and it's despicable.
And for the Christians among us, we should recognize that when God gave Moses the commandment, Thou shalt not steal, he did not mean, Thou shalt not steal unless you got a majority vote in Congress.
And moreover, if you...
It's okay to be a recipient of stolen property.
You would probably consider that a sin as well.
That is, the big problems that we face in our society right now are moral problems.
alex jones
And the big question is, when does the stealing end?
The big question is, I mean, if you accept any of this theft, then the sky's the limit.
WaltryWilliams.com.
Thank you so much for spending time with us, sir.
unidentified
Thank you for inviting me.
alex jones
Take care.
Have a great week coming up.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, we'll be back live.
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We'll see what happens.
We'll see if we can go to the press conference downtown.
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You know, they ask the veterans, oh come to all these funerals, you know, for dying vets.
Do these ceremonies.
And, uh, here, you know, we'll give you the M1s to shoot the blanks, and we'll give you the uniforms and things, and now they're saying, we're gonna send the BATF after you if you don't, uh, keep a record of all that.
And they've also announced, until Congress got upset, Obama said, no more brass left over from the military for reloading to be sold to big companies.
And they're, uh, introduced all these bills to totally end the Second Amendment as we know it.
This is all happening.
This is all real.
And it's just gonna Incrementally continue, but even though it's incremental, the incrementalism is accelerating now.
It is intensifying now.
It is expanding now.
And the question is, as a society, what are we going to do about this?
We have private outside banks that are having their way with the people.
And as soon as Ron Paul gets on with us, That's what we're going to discuss is the bill that he's introduced.
It's now got over 200 sponsors.
Bill to Audit Federal Reserve now has 207 co-sponsors.
New names being added every day.
Momentum building for Ron Paul and the American people.
Identifying the outside criminal organization, the private bankers that have engineered the collapse, that have taken over our society.
This is the new world order.
We have their minutes.
We have their documents.
We have it all.
We understand what they're doing.
And what they're setting up and what they are creating.
Bill to Audit Federal Reserve now has 207 co-sponsors.
New names being added every day.
Momentum building for the American people.
Thanks to Ron Paul and all of your phone calls to Congress, all the letters to Congress.
At a time of writing, a bill that would see the Federal Reserve Bank audited for the first time in 59 years has 207 co-sponsors in the House and is gaining traction with every single day.
Now, we've seen numbers of 200 is what we confirm.
Daily Paul saying 207.
We can talk to the man himself, Congressman Ron Paul, the hardest working man in Congress, Dr. Ron Paul, hailing from Texas.
I'm so honored to be a Texan with him.
Congressman, how many sponsors does it really have?
Yeah! You heard it here first!
ron paul
209! Yes, That's a tough job.
But they will respond when they hear from the people.
alex jones
Congressman, how long have you worked to get this many sponsors?
I mean, you've been introducing this bill for a decade, haven't you?
ron paul
it's been probably ever since I've been in Congress.
I don't know if I've ever skipped any, but there's never been any general support from the public, but because of the financial crisis and because of the presidential campaign and the interest in the Federal Reserve, all of a sudden it's come together.
So this is by far Yeah.
Even though the Fed contributed significantly, if they didn't cause the whole depression of the'30s, nobody was calling for auditing the Fed and abolishing the Fed.
Today, those are routine chants that we hear.
alex jones
And therefore, I think we're making great progress only because they've created such a chaotic mess that we're Well, we'll have to change the headline at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com to 209 from Congressman Ron Paul.
So you heard it here first, sir.
I don't want listeners to blink or viewers to blink because they may miss history.
I don't think even our own movement realizes the gravity of the fact that it looks like this bill has a good chance of passing if we get another 10 or so.
Sponsors, and the Federal Reserve has hired lobbyists to try to block this.
Their arrogance, their veneer of invincibility, their cloak of invincibility is falling away.
People see that they can be beat.
They see that they are not above the law.
It's viral videos with the former Fed Chairman and current Fed Chairman saying they're above the law and no one can look into them and no agency of government of the three branches can.
That is asinine on its face for even an uneducated, uninformed public on our system of government.
And so I just want to get your take on what is it like for you to know you're the leader of something that is so amazingly historical, because even if they somehow beat this this time, then the question is, how were we not able to audit you?
And so you can see that the momentum has changed and the pendulum is really shifting.
I sense destiny of the level of 1776 here, sir.
ron paul
I think there's no doubt about it.
They can't put down The odds are still, you know, iffy about where this is going to go.
I mean, the powers that be have a lot of tools that they can use.
Conference committees might block it in the Senate.
They can do all sorts of things.
So I remain cautiously optimistic because I know it has a long way to go, but
the issue Don't We're
constitutionalist because the grassroots are talking to the very average Republican, the very average Democrat, the moderate, the liberal, the progressive, and they're all joining it.
The issue really here is reigning in government and transparency.
We should not be fooled into believing that they have a strong belief in the monetary policies that we might want.
I mean, they're not all gold standard people or anything else.
What's driving this is that Congress has created a mess.
The Federal Reserve has been doing a lot secretly.
Congressman, in the 12 minutes or so we have left with you, I've got so many important questions concerning this.
alex jones
How do we explain to some of the public out there that this is all a process of liberty?
Tyranny wasn't born overnight in this country.
And liberty isn't going to take back over overnight.
It's a constant battle between those two title forces, as you know.
But people said, oh, Ron Paul didn't win, so boo-hoo.
I said, no.
It built this giant movement.
Now the biggest thing on campus isn't liberal or fake conservative.
It's libertarian.
It's freedom.
It's constitutionalist.
And now people are finally seeing that a year later, that it's building in strength and that it's a process that even, as you just said, Even if they defeat it this time, then people say, well, why can't we audit it?
It's almost better if they do engage in chicanery and pull out the stops and beat it this time, because then everybody's going to want to know what they're hiding.
ron paul
That's exactly right, and that'll just energize our group of young people especially, even more so.
But I think it's an issue whose time has come, and it's not going to go away.
I don't know if you saw Jim Grant's quote today on the business station, but he said that if we ever got that auditing bill passed, that it would be a declaration that the Federal Reserve is in a lot worse shape than any of the banks that went bankrupt.
But technically, you know, in conventional terms, the Federal Reserve does not have the assets.
All they have are credits, and obviously that's what we would expect, but that goes to prove They can't be the salvation of this country.
I mean, just counterfeiting money and doing mischief and serving the interests of their friends, that can't work.
I think it's going to come to an end, whether we win this legislative victory or not, because their system is deeply flawed.
Ultimately, I think the solution comes if we're well prepared to offer it up when the system totally collapses.
The financial structure The dollar still works to a degree.
People still are buying dollars and they don't know what to do with them.
But when they get discouraged, they don't hold dollars anymore and then they start buying up hard assets.
They're starting to buy oil now more than they did a month or so ago.
And they continue to buy gold.
And China continues to buy gold.
I mean, there's a lot of things.
But the end stages of a situation like this goes very, very rapidly once the sentiment changes.
Just like when the financial system collapsed, everybody rushed to dollars and interest rates went down to 1%, along with what the Fed was doing.
Well, when a currency crisis hit, people went, holy man, let's get out of the dollar.
And then you'll see the fireworks.
Then we have to be prepared to say, don't just give us a U.N. central bank.
I mean, the international planners are, they know what we know, and they're making their plans.
They know their days are numbered.
But the contest is between totalitarianism and liberty, and whoever wants the totalitarian approach has to have government monopolized.
alex jones
Yes. I go
ron paul
to a college campus, and you represent, talk to people outside of Washington, and there should be reason why you're seeing signs of optimism.
But I come up here every single day.
Right now, we're dealing with the State Department authorization bill, and it's atrocious.
You know, it's $18 billion and more mischief and more militarism.
And the Republicans this time are going to oppose it, but it's just a partisan thing.
But it'll go sailing right through.
alex jones
So you're saying there's two different worlds, and more and more it's getting separated and that gulf is widening.
ron paul
Right. And like this week, and I just got off the floor, I gave my all two minutes, and I said, you know, our president has asked us to go with PAYGO.
Pay the bills as you go along.
Of course, for the liberal, that means raise taxes.
Well, how can they raise taxes?
There's no businesses out there that can pay.
But they're not going to pay for this.
They're incapable.
And if they paid for it by cutting it and they want to spend all this money overseas, they'd have to cut a domestic program, which they're not going to do.
So the president's outside on the TV, and people say, well, that does sound good.
And this president's not a radical spender.
He wants to cut down, and he wants to rein this in, and he wants PAYGO.
And he says, in two years from now, we're going to cut way back.
We'll deal with the problems later on.
And, you know, I think, though our crowd is probably, like, young people around us.
And those students just laughed at them.
Well, I imagine there's a lot of students around the country and a lot of other people now who just laugh at us up here in Washington.
But the people here in Washington are still in charge and we haven't converted them.
And we're just seeing signs of it that it's possible when we can get 209 people to support an auditing bill.
So we just have to do our best and see what happens, see if the calamity hits us before we can make some decisions.
Absolutely. Things are certainly deepening.
alex jones
When do you see the next big plunge downward, deeper into this globally engineered depression?
ron paul
I think it's really going down now, but the government statistics sort of are giving people a false sense of security, so I think we're still slipping.
But there will be more announcements and more bankruptcies and probably more commercial property problems and more states going bankrupt and more unemployment.
Then finally, the euphoria on Wall Street over the last four months is dissipating, and that'll feed into a lot of disappointments.
Even though Wall Street has done a little bit better by these prices going up a little bit, I don't think the average guy out there that's lost his job has started to feel any better yet.
I was impressed the other day that some of the news media have reported that the real rate of unemployment isn't 9%.
It's like 18%, you know, when you add up all the people who don't look for jobs anymore or who work a couple hours a week.
So it's a very serious problem.
alex jones
Exactly. The mainstream media is now having to admit more and more that the government is lying and spinning because they want to keep some credibility.
Sir, I want to specifically ask you, in the time we have left, how do we help you get this bill passed?
How do we help you get HR 1207, that has 209 sponsors now, as of June 10, 2009, on this Wednesday edition, what can we do to get this passed?
What can we do Because going back to you and McKinney-Ruffs when you gave a speech after I did, five years ago, it's in my film Matrix of Evil, you talked about how the key was when the global crisis came in, the establishment would try to use the crisis to bring in their bank of the world, their world currency, because you were reading the same global documents I was.
And then now it's all over the news and they're posing as the saviors and the public is going, wait a minute, you're the guys that did this.
So they are looking to you and others.
So there's this vacuum that's about to happen.
And I mean, just speaking to the fact that, as you always said, when this happened, we had to put in the maximum effort.
So we want to put in the maximum effort.
You're the general, you're the George Washington, sir.
What do we do?
ron paul
I think we just do more.
of what we're doing now and building our numbers.
I mean, you have a large number of people that listen to you, and you continue to do the things that you're best at.
Now, following up from our campaign, we started the Campaign for Liberty, and that website helps bring people together, and our numbers continue to grow.
But right now, in a more specific way, they need to go to Campaign for Liberty, get the names of those who've signed on, and find out exactly the congressmen who have not, And then instead of, if your congressman has already signed on, go.
Go to the neighboring congressman and organize and find out where the meet-up group is and list these people on the internet.
alex jones
And go to their office!
I mean, you could go shake their hand, couldn't you?
ron paul
Yeah, that's it!
And when the members come and talk to them, they say, they'll come up and they'll be very nice and they're just trying to do their job.
They say, what is this bill that the grassroots are all riled up about?
$1,200 and something.
And I said, well, it has to do with We're good to
go. Politics, I mean, especially marginal Democrats and marginal Republicans, when they need this 10 or 15 percent of the vote.
If somebody, if there's a Democrat in a Republican seat, boy, they really want to pay attention to what we're doing.
alex jones
Okay. Congressman, in closing, I want to...
Ask you two quick questions.
Number one, there's a domino effect, isn't there, from what you've been doing?
Because as you move to audit the Fed, other agencies and groups in government start thinking, here's AP today, Congress subpoenas the Fed about where all the billions of dollars to Bank of America went, because they won't tell Senator Sanders and Congressman Paul and others, you know, yourself.
So again, here's this idea of holding these guys accountable.
It's starting to happen, isn't it?
ron paul
That is very good.
I think that fortunately we can get all political groups together on Well,
alex jones
it's been said that an audit of the Fed will abolish the Fed because as soon as all the admitted criminality we can see them doing openly.
I mean, what do you expect to find if we do get the audit?
Okay, ladies and gentlemen, we rebroadcast part of the Ron Paul interview from a couple hours ago.
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