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And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us.
It is Monday, the 27th day of April 2009.
We're going to be live here for the next four hours.
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One name popped into my mind over the weekend as the bird slash swine slash human flu pandemic affair swept the planet.
And that was Dr.
Sherry Tenpenny, who is a medical doctor and expert on the bird flu and runs a high-end clinic in Mexico in between her clinic in the United States.
We've been unable to get through to her this weekend on phone numbers to her clinics in Mexico.
The phone systems are having major troubles across Mexico City.
I've been getting a lot of emails from people in Mexico that have tried to call the special Saturday two-hour, 40-minute transmission I did and the Sunday show, 4 to 6 p.m., the regularly scheduled Sunday edition I do, and they've been unable to call.
We're going to open the phones up for eyewitness reports from inside Mexico.
We first got eyewitness reports Saturday night that there were more people dead and sick than the media was saying.
That's now been confirmed as of today.
And so the intel we're getting has also been matched by a BBC report that the deaths are far greater than what is being reported.
So I'm going to open the phones up for folks inside Mexico.
1-800-259-9231.
1-800-259-9231.
I'm also going to open up our phone system.
So let's get that number on screen.
And I still don't have our local studio number memorized because I want to give people a 512 local number because in Mexico sometimes people can't call 1-800 numbers from outside the country.
So we will Give you if you're in Mexico with eyewitness reports a 512 local number so give your country access code and 512-646-1776 512-646-1776 you can also try 888-201-2244 888-201-2244 we'll open those phone systems right now for people that want to call in.
All right, that said, again the number is 1-800-259-9231.
1-800-259-9231.
We're going to have a lot of open phones today, so listeners can bring up different angles, different pieces of evidence, different news pieces that they think are important as we analyze what's going on with this unfolding crisis.
So here are the numbers one more time.
1-800-259-9231 512-646-1776 888-201-2244 I would ask though in this first round of calls that only people with family in Mexico or people in Mexico with eyewitness reports or secondhand reports from family members or co-workers in Mexico of just how bad this really is.
And then, later in this hour, we'll open the phones up for everybody.
I want to make that clear.
Because I want to give people a chance on the phone systems, the three numbers we just gave out for people to be able to get on.
It's good to have a show this large with listeners listening to shortwave and internet all over the world and a huge AminFM audience here in the United States to be able to, on every show, get calls from across North America.
The virus It is in Canada.
It is in Spain.
It is in Israel.
It is in Texas.
It is in California.
It is now popping up in New York and other areas.
Now, that said, when we come back, is this a pandemic danger?
Is this a real threat?
Or is it hype?
A shy-off?
I have all the news and information, literally hundreds of articles, documents, the backstory on this.
And what I think is going on when we get back then, Steve Quayle, who warned of this last Monday before anybody was talking about it, he'll be with us coming up.
Dr. Sherry Tinpenny.
We can get her in Mexico.
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And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
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alex jones
Penny is going to be joining us here on air in about seven minutes for the balance of this first hour.
A medical doctor who has a practice in the United States and in Mexico itself.
Expert on the bird flu.
She will be joining us coming up in about six, seven minutes.
Then in the last hour today, Steve Quayle.
Steve Quayle came on the show last Monday and said his intel was that the establishment was planning to go with a bio attack Some type of bird flu.
And so we've got him coming back on today in the last hour.
Two o'clock Central Standard Time or two hours fifty minutes from now.
Fifty-one minutes to be precise.
Steve Quayle will be joining us.
We're going to have open phones today.
I want to let listeners know that if you're in Mexico or you have family in Mexico or you're in South Texas where they've shut down a lot of the schools Uh, Saturday night I did a two plus hour emergency transmission and we got calls from one of the towns north of San Antonio where they locked down one of the schools and are closing it.
We got calls from Mexico City with a lot of key eyewitness reports about how 70% or more of the people they saw were sick.
But the deaths were a lot higher than what the media was saying.
Then the BBC had reports from doctors in hospitals saying it was more than 200 deaths as of Saturday.
They were still saying 68 deaths as of yesterday.
Now they're saying 103 confirmed.
A toll-free number to join us if you're in Mexico or in Canada or in any area.
Know someone who's gotten sick or if you've seen anything going on.
888-201-2244.
888-201-2244 because you can't trust the mainstream media.
We can analyze what they're saying and doing, but you can't just take it as is.
You've got to check it with a lot of other sources and things.
Now, let me just make this clear.
I think this is a bunch of hype, but when you've got the World Health Organization saying they fear a massive global pandemic, And have the military standing by in the Western world for martial law.
And that's what this medical emergency is.
The executive orders have been put into place.
Continuity of government has been engaged.
That's what the executive orders say.
That's what they announced Sunday morning with a rare White House Sunday briefing.
So they create the fear and then say, oh, but it's no big deal.
So they can be both the person scaring you and the person playing the part of then being your protector.
I think it's a bunch of hype.
Unless they're lying about the severity of it.
The way they're hyping it and saying it's, you know, they're getting ready for this big crisis, but then, oh, it's no big deal at the same time.
If they are lying about the number of cases, they're just saying a few thousand in Mexico, when they're talking, and then other reports out of Mexico say there's just people sick everywhere.
A country of a hundred million people, and then they're saying that it's only two thousand people sick and a hundred people dying.
Because the flu in the United States on average kills 15,000 people.
And it kills even more than that each year in Mexico because of bad sanitation, lack of medical care, and people's access to it because they're so poor.
One of the poorest nations in the world.
But of course they have more billionaires than any nation on the planet.
Because they're so corrupt.
They have a super elite and a huge mass of poor people.
So something doesn't jive here.
Something stinks to high heaven here.
Because, uh, I'm actually hoping that hundreds of thousands are sick in Mexico.
Now listen to me carefully.
Because if hundreds of thousands are sick, and then it's only a hundred and something deaths like they're now saying, then that means it's a regular flu.
Flu always kills people.
Okay? But if it really is only 2,000 people sick in Mexico, and you've got 103 people at least dead, then this is a bad-acting flu.
I wouldn't call it weaponized, but it's tough stuff.
It's on the verge of that.
Now, the available evidence shows they're lying, and it's way more than 2,000 cases in Mexico.
And so, that means, oh good, it's not some super deadly flu.
The reason governments are so concerned is that the swine flu of 1918, released at a US military base, clearly a designer virus, killed at least, they debate between 40 and 60 million worldwide, at least 40 million people.
Millions in Europe and the United States.
And it attacked healthy people.
It attacked healthy people.
It attacked people between 18 and 30 years of age that were very healthy, very virile, very strong.
Because their autoimmune system in their lungs had an over-response to it, flooding the areas with Antibodies with white blood cells causing an autoimmune response.
Their lungs swolled up and they died basically of a quick-acting pneumonia.
And I guess that ties into some type of hemorrhagic fever where you get one bug and then you have an autoimmune response and it kills you.
We'll talk to Dr. Sherry Tenpenny in a moment.
In fact, do we have her yet?
Go ahead and call her.
She's normally in Mexico when I'm able to get her in Mexico Then they told me right as I came in to the next segment they'd gotten a hold of her So I'm not even sure where she's at.
We'll find out when we get her So understand the government's response to this is what should raise our Eyebrows raise our ears raise the hackles on the back of our neck Because flu kills 15,000 people. Some numbers say 30,000, but the conservative numbers are 15,000 on average in the U.S. a year.
Tens of thousands in Mexico a year.
Why then are they hyping 103 deaths?
Why are they saying there's deaths in Mexico but not in the United States?
So if there's only 2,000 cases in Mexico and it has killed 100 plus people, that is a really bad acting flu.
But if it's More people that are sick, hundreds of thousands, and it's only a hundred dead?
Well, then that sounds like a regular flu.
Then you get into the issue of that this thing has got genetics from pigs, birds, and humans from Europe, Asia, and North America.
You've got the government's response in Napolitano and in Reuters saying, U.S. should prepare for new flu outbreak.
She said, even if this fizzles out, This is a quote in a press conference in the next two weeks that another one is coming.
And that's all Reuters says.
Very cryptic there.
They have declared an emergency in Mexico.
They have declared an emergency here.
They do have Europe saying, telling their people don't fly to the US or Mexico.
They are banning the importation from southern and western states of pork and other products to Europe and Russia and they're banning products out of Mexico.
So is this a big beta test drill for a lockdown?
We know that under dark winter and other scenarios, they've drilled for a massive flu or smallpox outbreak and martial law.
Joining us for the balance of the hour is Dr. Sherry Tenpenny.
She is a medical doctor from Cleveland, Ohio.
Board certified in emergency medicine and osteopathic manual medicine.
She has patients in 38 states and 8 countries.
She's an executive director.
You know, it's better for her to just introduce herself to you.
And she's one of the leading experts out there on bird flu and appears on radio and TV across the planet, including mainstream radio and TV.
So, Dr. Sherry Tinpenny, thank you for coming on on short notice.
sherri j tenpenny
Thank you, Alex.
Thanks for thinking of me.
alex jones
We're about to break, but just tell folks about yourself.
You do have a practice in Mexico and what you're actually hearing in Mexico.
Is it worse than they're saying?
Is it better than they're saying?
Is this hype?
What's going on?
sherri j tenpenny
Well, I'm currently right now in Monterrey, Mexico.
I've been doing consulting in Mexico for about the last seven months and most recently, about a month ago, that consulting assignment ended and I moved back to Cleveland.
But I'm down here for this week for a conference of the Medical Tourism Association in Monterey.
We arrived yesterday.
We went to the conference this morning and the officials from the Health Care Association, it's called Health Care City here in Monterey, came into the conference and there was a tour that was supposed to happen this morning of all the local hospitals.
And they cancelled the tour, and that's what we thought was happening, but what they really did was they cancelled the entire conference.
And we're in a really nice hotel, an intercontinental hotel here in Monterey, which isn't anywhere close to Mexico City.
There are people that have flown in for this conference from all over South America, and the officials here promptly told everybody to go change their airfare and to go home.
alex jones
Now, that was too early to tell.
sherri j tenpenny
One of the people in the conference said, now wait a minute, there's nobody really here from Mexico City.
We're in a closed area in this hotel.
We've been here.
I can understand why maybe you don't want people out traipsing into hospitals here locally, but why don't we have the conference?
And they said, nope, we're canceling the whole conference.
And this one gentleman said, I think there's been a moratorium on common sense for this conference.
alex jones
Amazing. I want to go to the bird flu itself.
I was just on Coast to Coast with you in the same show back on March 10th when Baxter was out mixing bird flu with these big vats of other test vaccines and then it came out that other companies, unnamed, the London Telegraph and other publications, were telling homeless people in Europe, Poland, Germany and other places that it was just a regular flu shot but paying them to take it and it was killing them deader than a hammer.
So there's a lot going on here.
I want to get your medical view on, you know, are they hyping this or does the government know something?
The government of Mexico, the United States, governments of Europe, that the public doesn't know.
With Dr. Sherry Tenpenny, our guest from Monterrey, Mexico.
We really appreciate her joining us.
Doctor, we'll be right back after this quick break and go straight back to you to get your expert opinion on this and a lot more.
We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen.
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Ladies and gentlemen, we have been all over the bird flu, the hype by governments.
Why have they been hyping it when it hasn't been a big threat?
Why have they been organizing their whole martial law takeover plan around the outbreak of smallpox, bird flu, SARS, and a few other, a few other micro-borne illnesses?
I'm going to go through all the news and detail the latest developments, but we have New York, Ohio, Kansas, California, Texas, large areas of Central and Southern Mexico with outbreaks.
We're talking to medical Dr. Sherry Tenpenny.
He was out of practice in Mexico and in the United States.
Dr. Tenpenny, bottom line here, what do you think is going on?
I know it's too early to fully tell, but we've got Baxter saying they're going to make a new vaccine for this.
We've got just unprecedented fear-mongering by the media and the government.
Is it just fear-mongering and grandstanding?
Or do they know something that the public doesn't know?
sherri j tenpenny
You know what, Alex?
I think it's a little bit of both.
I think that there's some things going on that's a lot of fear-mongering.
I mean, one of the questions...
I wrote an article last night and posted it on my website, DrTentenny.com.
That's called, you know, Swine Flu, the New Bird Flu.
And some of the questions that I think are really kind of interesting that no one seems to be bringing up is the fact that flu season isn't in April.
Flu season's in October and November.
I mean, so what is all this about, you know, all this flu stuff that's going on now, which makes me kind of question?
Another thing is that past pandemics, as we know them and as they've been reported, have all rolled out of Southeast Asia.
This is supposedly coming out of Mexico City, which I think is a big distinction, too, because Mexico City is the capital.
It's way south into Mexico.
And people get Mexico City confused with the entire country of Mexico.
Mexico City is one of the top one or two size population cities in the entire world.
It's filthy, dirty.
Millions of people live on garbage dumps.
And when I wrote my book, Foul, Bird Flu, It's Not What You Think, I made a very big and compelling argument that when you take garden variety of influenza and you mix it with dioxin and other types of chemicals, it more than doubles the death rates.
So some of these people I think are maybe being exposed to sort of normal viruses and are getting sick and maybe those are the hundreds of people that they're not really reporting in the news.
alex jones
Exactly! There are hundreds of deaths a day of tuberculosis.
They even have deaths from leprosy.
In Mexico City, there's all sorts of people dying of just toxins.
For those that don't know, there's 35 million people in the metro area, 28 million in the city limits itself.
Largest city.
in the world, and literal open rivers of black sewage.
When you're there, when it's dry, there is black dust in the air that is dried human excrement and other things.
And so it's a perfect incubator, isn't it, doctor, for a deadly flu?
Plus you have so many debilitated people and poor people with about, what, half the population living in shantytowns.
sherri j tenpenny
Yes, and those people who don't have access to adequate medical care in simple things like clean water and good food, and even a clean place to live.
So, yes, it's absolutely a festering sort of pool for that.
But I kind of wonder, Alex, you know, what is it about the U.S. government that they're trying to completely destroy the Mexican economy?
And in between with the irresponsible reporting about the violence that's been going on over the last couple of months, And now this whole hullabaloo and this whole great big hype.
What's your take on why that's all happening?
alex jones
Well, that's designed to further collapse Mexico under the SPP and then have even more illegal aliens come into the U.S. to collapse these southern and western states so they can be federalized.
The SPP documents, the Judicial Watch sued and got from September 2007 in Banff, Canada.
Endgame. Blueprint for Global Enslavement covers all of this.
They say, we will use economic collapse, pandemic collapse, and terror attacks to create the North American Union.
And so, out of crises, the stronger central government in Washington believes this is how they will bring in the North American Union.
sherri j tenpenny
Well, the bird flu stuff is certainly, all of those viruses, even normal viruses, Absolutely, create a bigger cytokine storm in normal, healthy tissue.
I document all that in my book about in normal tissue, how it destroys normal tissue in the presence of chemicals, even in very young persons.
So, if this is some sort of a genetically modified virus, which you have to have suspicions about that, when you look at bird, swine, and human, H1N1 all kind of mixed together.
Um, it's no doubt that people who are more toxic and have more toxins in their lungs and are going to be more susceptible to the effects of any virus, including something that may be...
alex jones
You know, that's a new wrinkle, but I know that I've seen the studies out of China that the toxic waste and the cramped cities and air pollution is tied to the higher death rates.
We're not talking about race specific, we're talking about mega city We're on the march.
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We're going to be opening the Phone's up at 1-800-259-9231 in the next hour.
We'll take a few calls in this hour from people in Mexico City, listeners in South Texas, on the edge of Central Texas, north of San Antonio, where they've shut down some of the schools.
Reese, we'll go to him in a moment.
But we're going back to Dr. Sherry Tenpenny.
Who is joining us from Monterey, Mexico, and she's had a practice and consulted down in Mexico, so she knows it well.
Obviously, she's down there right now as all of this is unfolding.
A big medical conference there, and it was shut down by the Mexican authorities.
You know, they're hundreds of miles away from Mexico Center, the epicenter of the outbreak.
Dr. Tenpenny, you know, that was my next question, but let's finish up with the fact that this is a seems to be chemical specific flu or that the studies do show that people are in toxic environments it has a much greater effect on them or or obviously people run down uh...
immune systems and then this is a layman who's interviewed a lot of medical doctors and virologist over the years and been studying bird flu because i saw the globalist hyping it for the last uh...
five six years That this does look like it's a designer when you've got it not just swine, human, and pig all together, and that it happens to be a mutation that actually can affect humans.
Most of these viruses can't when they mutate.
And that it's coming out in the non-flu season, and that it's coming from an area that the flus don't normally originate from.
And it's flus from all over the world.
I mean, you start adding all that in, I guess a medical doctor could hire an insurance company to do an actuary on this, but I bet it's a billion to one or more.
Dr. Timpeny, can you speak to that specifically?
sherri j tenpenny
Yeah, I can, Alex.
And what's interesting, too, is what they've been saying in the Mexican news down here, is that they've been seeing hundreds of people that have been sick over the last three to four weeks.
And that many of the people, by the time they get into the hospital, they've got sort of a full-blown pneumonia.
And they interviewed a doctor on the television here last night, that he was saying that many of them, when they come into the emergency department, they go immediately up to the intensive care and get put on a ventilator, and that they've been passing away.
And several doctors, I guess, have died in some of the big hospitals, the way I understand it.
Like young interns, people that were exposed and taking care of these people.
So, I do believe that this is, whatever a virus this is, it's highly virulent if you combine it with other things, just like any other type of virus.
You know, there's tens of thousands of people or millions of people every year that are exposed to garden variety influenza and they don't even get sick.
So, there has to be, in my opinion, an underlying combination of things that allows you to be susceptible to weaponized or non-weaponized or even garden variety influenza.
And the studies that I put in my book, when I did the bird food book called Fowl, It's Not What You Think, the premise was, why is this starting in Southeast Asia?
And it led me into looking at the dioxin toxicities there, the Agent Orange sort of combinations, the filth that's in China and in Indonesia and all of Southeast Asia.
And it was looking in the birds of how they live with their chickens.
And there was a theory that I put forth that it was because of the combination of influenza, dioxin, and other chemicals that was causing these people to have virulent cases of bird flu.
And then I actually found, out of the medical literature, scientific support for that premise.
alex jones
Why do you think the 1918 flu that killed more than 40 million people worldwide started at a U.S. military base, and why did the 76-bird flu start at a U.S. military base?
Is that a connection to bioweapon?
sherri j tenpenny
Oh, I think it's two things.
I think there's two separate answers there.
One is, in both of those instances, those populations are highly vaccinated.
I mean, they go into the service, they get popped with everything, including doubles and triples of things.
alex jones
And so it's a vaccine reaction.
We know in 76, when they, as you know, doctor, tried to give the public the swine flu, it killed a bunch of people.
And Gillian Bernays, go ahead.
sherri j tenpenny
Yes, and so I think that part of it is, you know, you've created a susceptible population by vaccinating them with all these toxic vaccines.
In the book, I talk an awful lot about in the 1918 pandemic influenza that happened, that World War I was a chemical warfare.
There were almost 30 different types of chemicals that were used in the front line including mustard gas and all these other things.
That the U.S. military was way behind on developing gas masks and all these other things.
alex jones
And by the way, these were returning troops, and I've seen the studies as well that you're reporting on, so I can back you up, doctor.
The returning troops at bases are then given inoculations, and then it starts spreading.
Go ahead.
sherri j tenpenny
Yeah, and they were exposed to tons, megatons of mustard gas and a whole bunch of other types of chemicals in the front line of war when they went across the ocean in very adverse packed-type conditions that they'd been vaccinated, started to get sick, packed-type conditions, go over to Europe, get exposed to all the tens of thousands of tons of chemicals that were happening in the
alex jones
So it's just like methamphetamine heads that are using street methamphetamine filled with grignardier reagents and heavy metals.
Because of the dirty way it's produced on the street, that's why they can get HIV and the virus kills them, because they've already had their immune system destroyed, whereas a healthy person can be exposed to HIV hundreds of times and not contract it.
Is that what you're saying?
sherri j tenpenny
Absolutely. You know, Alex, I say all the time, health is an inside-out phenomenon.
And our absolute terror of germs and this whole thing about the germ theory that needs to absolutely go away.
Because the health is an inside-out phenomenon.
And you can't create a $500 billion a year pharmaceutical industry based on simple things that you need to do to keep yourself healthy.
alex jones
Well, I've seen studies that people that live in megacities like Beijing, or even London, or Mexico City, just because of what people are breathing there, that people live on average eight years less living in a megacity.
So that, you know, the old cliche of clean country living really does It really does have something to it.
sherri j tenpenny
Absolutely. You know, things like, you know, fresh water, alkalizing your body, doing detoxification.
Simple things like getting eight and a half hours of sleep every night consistently.
You know, washing your hands, but not inappropriately or overdoing it.
Eating good food and trying to avoid GMO stuff.
I mean, all of those things is a health from an inside out phenomenon.
You know, getting lots of vitamin D, getting out in the sunshine and avoiding all the slathering on of the sunscreens like by piles of chemicals that go in your body.
I mean, you know, the good Lord gave us all the stuff we needed here.
It's humans that have gone along and destroyed it.
alex jones
In fact, Doctor, I'm not...
Posing as a doctor myself, I go off of the medical reports and what medical doctors are saying.
Just the sun alone, I've seen the studies that that's why we see the flus and other viruses and bacteria really running rampant in the winter.
It's not just that we're indoors more, we're not getting that sun in our skin that literally...
sherri j tenpenny
Makes the vitamin D. Explain that to people.
That makes the vitamin D. Yeah, that makes the vitamin D. How our body intrinsically makes vitamin D is the sunshine goes on your skin, it stimulates little cells called melanocytes, and that's how you get a suntan, and from there there's a whole long process that you create your own internal vitamin D. And it's the vitamin D,
particularly vitamin D3, that all the flurry of studies that have been coming out over the last several months show Showing that it's remarkable for almost every type of process in our body and it's the vitamin D that goes down in the winter when the sunshine goes down and allows the flu viruses to come up.
Yes, I've seen a lot of those studies, too, and I really believe that's true.
alex jones
Okay, let's get back into the pandemic itself, and then I'm going to go to Reese in Central Texas, right on the border of Central and South Texas, just north of San Antonio, where they have shut down some of the schools.
He called in on Saturday night, and we'll continue with Dr.
Sherry Tenpenny.
Alright, now just as a layman throwing this out, if they're saying there's only 2,000 cases in Mexico, and from what I've heard from Mexican television and radio, and the callers from Mexico, that they go to local hospitals in not just Mexico City, but other areas,
there are people vomiting, people sick, people have all they're saying for the last month, or going back into mid-March, and the Mexican government admits it's when this started, that everybody they know has been sick, callers have said they would say 70% of their families and friends Have been sick.
So we know when the media says 2,000 people have gotten sick, that that's a lie.
But in a way, that's really good news, isn't it?
If you have hundreds of thousands or even millions that are sick, and then only 103 deaths, that shows this is just a regular flu, because regular flus of people that are unhealthy or run down or get dehydrated, it kills them.
Now, that's on the good side.
Let's hope that's the case.
On the bad side, maybe they're covering up the fact that there have been a lot more deaths, and we're seeing some indicators of this, and that it's mutated, and the government knows this, and that's why they're starting to lock things down, so we have to look at every angle, and I'll be doing that with other guests throughout the show today, kind of the good,
the bad, and the ugly, and I know it's too early to tell, Doctor, but, I mean, clearly, they're lying about it only being 2,000 people sick, or Alex, it may be that they're saying there's 2,000 people sick because those 2,000 people were the ones that were sick enough to seek medical care.
sherri j tenpenny
You know, there may be millions of other people, just like when the bird flu was happening back in 2006, that there were tens of thousands, maybe even millions of people that were sick, but not sick enough to go to the doctor and get care.
And so when you don't really know what that denominator is, you can't predict what a death rate's going to be.
If the numerator's, you know, 200 and the bottom denominator is a million, well then it's insignificant.
alex jones
What about Mexican doctors telling the BBC and myself that it's at least 20 dead per hospital in and around Mexico City and that the number was way above 200 as of Saturday?
sherri j tenpenny
Again, it's a very skewed perspective.
It's, you know, they're looking at the sickest of the sick who've made it to the hospital and probably came to the hospital because they were so sick they couldn't stay at home anymore.
And so they, I'm sure that the numbers they're saying may be in the realm of true, but that's, I think that that's a skewed perspective.
alex jones
Okay, why would the government say there haven't been that many deaths, it's not a big deal, but then do the opposite and lock everything down and You know, cancel all public events.
sherri j tenpenny
Because what they're doing is they're following CDC guidelines and recommendations down here.
And they actually even said that when they canceled the conference today.
That the CDC guidelines are to stay away from crowded spaces, don't be congregated all together, and so that's what they're kind of doing.
So they're following the American medical hype.
And because they don't want to be accused of not doing that and then causing more of a problem.
So they are playing the game safe and going on the side of safety and following what the rules are being set by the CDC.
alex jones
And I guess if they're going to ban all public events, they can't selectively enforce it, so this must be devastating the tourism industry down in Mexico and business itself.
unidentified
Oh, gosh.
sherri j tenpenny
Yes, devastating it.
It's devastating it.
You know, the first devastation was the irresponsible reporting of the violence.
Yes, it was happening, but it was not responsibly being reported.
During that time, I was actually living in Rosarito and could have told you a whole lot about that.
And so, and now what they're doing is even places like Cancun and Puerto Vallarta and Acapulco, which aren't anywhere near any of these places, are all these people are loading up and they're packing up their luggage and going home for no good reason.
And then they're talking about shutting down different airlines, they're saying they're going to do checks at the border, and it's like, holy cow!
I think it's the people that sit in the backdrop and laugh at this and go, gosh, it doesn't take a whole lot to just push a button and make all them little sheep just run around like chickens without a head.
alex jones
Absolutely. What do you think of Napolitano, the Homeland Security head, saying, well, this, you know, She said, even if this goes away in a few weeks, there's going to be another worse one soon.
How could she make statements like that?
I mean, they're clearly loving the fear and the control and using this to sell their martial law grid.
sherri j tenpenny
Absolutely, Alex.
And I'll tell you, back in 2005 and 2006, I went to the first, second, and third National Bird Flu Summits held in Washington, D.C. to get first-hand information, take my own notes, and to correlate it with what I had put in my book, Foul.
And they were saying then, this is not a matter of if, it's when.
It's when this is going to happen.
They were saying it point blank language.
I actually wrote several articles about it on the internet.
So they've known this was coming.
They've known this was coming.
And I can't say that it's because they were just sort of doing it based on epidemiological or statistics.
I mean, they're privy to stuff that you and I will never know.
And for them to be so bold and to continue to train FEMA, Homeland Security, local departments, having vaccination drills around the country.
I mean, this has been planned and in the works at least since 2005 and God knows how long before that.
alex jones
And Dr.
Tenpenny, medical doctor reporting to us from Monterey, Mexico, international respected expert on this.
Dr. Tenpenny, in Mexico right now, are you saying that the available evidence shows that this is leaning towards a genetically engineered virus?
Or is this just them hyping a convenience?
I think it's too early to say.
sherri j tenpenny
I do think that there's going to be something that's going to be released, or it's going to be shown that this is a really unusual virus.
The evidence is saying it's swine.
Um, bird flu and human.
Now, they just had a report down here just not too long ago, maybe in the last couple of hours, saying, that's kind of ridiculous.
This is just an aggressive human virus.
It's silly to be calling it swine flu.
And I have to agree with that.
So, um, I think that there's a lot of hype that's going on, a lot of hysteria.
It never ceases to amaze me.
alex jones
Exactly. I mean, there are hundreds a day dying of TB alone in Mexico City and the common cold.
So why are they hyping it now?
sherri j tenpenny
And thousands dying in car accidents and people falling out of second-story windows and you know there's all sorts of other things.
alex jones
So the question is why are they hyping it now and then Napolitano say oh get ready something big's guaranteed to come soon and now they're on the news saying oh it's gonna mutate.
sherri j tenpenny
Remember Alex the US government in 2005 invested 7.1 billion dollars into new vaccine development.
So maybe this is a return on investment.
alex jones
This is about Bioshield.
sherri j tenpenny
This is about Bioshield.
We've got to start using all those vaccines that we just put into place.
And Division E, remember Division E that came out at the end of 2006?
It was tacked on at the end of the defense appropriation bill that basically says That all they have to do is whisper that this may be bioterrorism, and the pharmaceutical companies have 100% protection and liability for any drug, any vaccine, anything that comes out to be used against us.
alex jones
So this is about an industry that literally bankrolls the government and the media with campaign contributions and advertisement.
Half the nightly news ads are drug ads.
This is just about more of their fear-mongering to then sell everybody getting two, three, four deadly flu shots a year that actually debilitate your immune system and then make Many cases give you the flu.
sherri j tenpenny
And also use Tamiflu.
Now Tamiflu, I documented in the book, that the more you use Tamiflu, the more resistant the viruses become.
That by the fourth dose of Tamiflu, a garden variety influenza virus can be up to 10 million times more resistant to Tamiflu than it was before it was exposed to the drug.
alex jones
So it's making them resistant just like bacteria with antibiotics.
sherri j tenpenny
Exactly. Exactly.
alex jones
Okay, we've got a lot of phone calls here coming up, but in the final segment...
Dr. Sherry Tinpenny, I want to give out your website for folks that want to learn more.
I did read your excellent report this morning.
People should see that.
Swine flu, the new bird flu.
We do have calls from Mexico, calls from Texas.
We will be getting to those, but I wanted to talk to you about the control grid.
You know, it's not a rumor about FEMA mass graves.
We have the documents, so I want to mention those when we get back.
Is this a beta test to train everybody how to go along and follow orders for the real crisis that's coming?
Why is Europe Testing all Americans and Mexican flights coming in.
Why are they banning imports from the U.S. and Mexico?
This is becoming a worldwide hype fest.
Why is this flu coming out of the Western Hemisphere and not out of Asia as it normally does?
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Sherry 10-20 on this for the last 40 minutes.
I'm gonna give you my take on all of this coming up the next hour.
Paul Watson will give us a European view from the United Kingdom coming up in about 35 minutes.
We got calls from Texas, California, Canada, Mexico, you name it, that are coming up.
Dr. Sherry Tenpenny is our guest.
You know, I have the State of New York Department of State Division of Cemeteries secret document, April 4, 2007.
That's up on InfoWars.com, linked in a story Aaron Dykes did.
Plans for mass graves confirmed, government surveying, cemetery readiness.
We talked to the city officials in Indiana with the Illinois officials, with FEMA coming to them saying, we want you to harden all the government buildings for terror attack.
Even in rural towns and prepare mass graves for a flu outbreak And that's what this division of cemeteries document says and then I have the executive orders the feds have the state passing in Colorado Rocky Mountain News February 2003 for mass graves incinerators You name it and under the dark winter top-off drills They admittedly practice locking down cities putting people in sports stadiums and under this new alert that they've issued That's then taking the safety off
the system that would engage Open Physical Martial Law.
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny.
sherri j tenpenny
Well, Alex, I think that the most important part of all of that is that not everybody is going to die and not everybody is going to get sick.
So the people, and I think the people who are more toxic in their systems from chemical exposures, from genetically modified foods, from eating, you know, McDonald's trans fats things, I think that those, and all the people that are fully vaccinated and have their immune systems all tied up with that, are going to be more susceptible, whether it's a weaponized sort of flu or not.
And so that goes back to, you know, trying to do health from the inside out.
There's some great books and programs out there about detoxification.
alex jones
Just quickly, doctor, I want to interrupt you, and while I have you, are you still going to be in Mexico tomorrow?
Because I'd like to get you back on tomorrow for 30 minutes with a quick report.
sherri j tenpenny
Yeah, I am.
In fact, my husband and I decided that we're not going to panic and be a bunch of sheep.
We're going to stay down here until Saturday, just like our plane tickets were supposed to be.
alex jones
What time zone are you in right now there in Mexico?
sherri j tenpenny
Pardon me?
alex jones
What time is it in Mexico right now where you're at?
sherri j tenpenny
It's noon.
It's central time here.
alex jones
Okay, same here.
We're central standard time.
How about 1130 again tomorrow?
Perfect. Okay, we'll call you 1130.
In closing, doctor, What are some things over the counter?
I mean some people have said if you take like elderberry that is a immune booster that could cause the autoimmune response that's actually killing people and you know with some other flus.
I mean is it garlic, vitamin C?
What would you tell people that are afraid to do?
sherri j tenpenny
Vitamin C, vitamin A is the most amazing antiviral.
I think that those two are really great.
Simple things like we already said.
Be sure you get to bed on time.
The more sleep you can get, the more healthy you're going to be.
You know, those are really, really important stuff that, that I think are really important.
There's a lot of things on my website, drtenpenny.com, that gives a lot of information about that.
And it really, lots of vitamin C, vitamin A, garlic.
Some people use colloidal silver.
Some people use homeopathics.
There are lots of ways to keep healthy from the inside out.
alex jones
Absolutely. Any thing else?
I mean, is garlic good?
Is oil of oregano good?
sherri j tenpenny
Oil of oregano.
I'm glad you mentioned that, Alex, because that is fantastic.
And we've known that that has some great resistance against even some of the tougher types of flu strains.
Lots of vitamin D. Summer's coming.
Get out in some sunshine.
If you can't do that, get some vitamin D and do at least 5,000 units a day.
You know, they've done studies that have shown up to 40 or 50,000 units with no toxicity, 10,000 units a day without any toxicity.
So at least 5,000 units of vitamin D a day until this whole thing blows through to keep you and your family safe.
alex jones
Absolutely. Sounds perfect, Alex.
sherri j tenpenny
Take care.
All right.
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We are covering this new mutagen flu that we're seeing record hype.
100 plus deaths confirmed in Mexico from the virus, but the regular flu kills tens of thousands a year down there.
Same in the U.S. So why is the media hyping it?
This could be the big one, or is it just more hype in preparation for the globalists to launch a controlled bioweapons release on the public?
They are eugenicists.
They've said they've been planning to do it for a long time.
So we have to look at that angle.
And you just heard an angle that was an optimistic one from Dr. Sherry Tinpenny, medical doctor.
Who knows what we're going to be hearing.
I would imagine it'll be the dark side of the dark view from somebody who predicted this just last Monday.
And that is, of course, Steve Quayle coming up in T-minus one hour, 59 minutes.
We've got Paul Watson popping in with a British view for about 10 minutes at the bottom of this hour.
I want to take a lot of calls right now and get your take on what's happening.
And then I'm going to go through all the latest news and give you my view on what's going on coming up right now.
Let's talk to Reese calling from just north of San Antonio.
He called Saturday morning.
It's probably more than that.
In the United States, why all the fear-mongering?
Why is the media saying, oh, it's going to mutate into something more deadly?
When I look at the statistics, they normally mutate into something less deadly.
But we'll look at all angles and all sides.
I'll go into Reese in the border of San Antonio there, right in the town where they have confirmed cases.
Reese, tell us what's happening.
unidentified
All right.
Not too much has changed here.
I got a news report out of the San Antonio Express News here.
It says Linda Moses is sick, or both her sons are sick.
One attends Clemens High School, which is the other high school in this district.
They have a suspected or confirmed local cases climbed to 12.
alex jones
I know that one suspected So it's now 12 cases in your town alone, and the National U.S. News, even though they know the San Antonio Express News says that, The National News is saying 20 cases nationwide.
We need to get Paul Watson or Kurt or Steve with a blurb on this.
What's the headline on that San Antonio Express News article?
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Okay, it says, let me see here.
It's at MySANews.com.
It's just a little blog comment and it says SDUC closes all schools.
alex jones
Say that slower.
Give me that acronym again slowly.
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Okay, it's SDUC ISD closes all schools.
That's the name of the, uh...
alex jones
SCUC closes all schools.
unidentified
SCUC ISD.
That's Shirt, Cibolo, Universal, City, ISD.
And that closes all schools.
And, uh, looks like there's actually another suspected case that the school that my mom actually teaches at.
So that's kind of scary.
But, you know, I think people around here are starting to actually start to take this a little seriously.
And, uh, You know, people are, they're just, they're not in a sort of a haze like they were on Saturday when I called you, kind of in a panic.
alex jones
Well, the issue here is we should be concerned because this global government and the CDC, our eugenicists, have staged chemical, biological, radiological attacks on people worldwide.
They have killed troops and foster children and others.
In test, this is on record, the government weaponized anthrax was mailed out.
Two George Bush's enemies.
The White House admitted the whole cabinet was on Cipro, the anthrax-fighting antibiotic, before it even broke out.
So, they have this past history.
They're preparing with mass graves for this.
And so the fact that they're saying it's such a big danger, and hyping it, is why we're having to look at it.
But, if you really only had 100 deaths in Mexico, Regular flu kills people, so this is hype.
So we don't know yet.
Stay there.
I want to hear more from you when we get back.
Reese, joining us from the town where one of the biggest outbreaks in the country has taken place.
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Yes, here is the San Antonio Express News headline.
SCUC ISD closes all schools.
The number of suspected or confirmed local cases of swine flu climbed to 12. Now, they're still saying in the national news, on Drudge and everywhere else, 20 cases in the U.S. One outbreak, just south of me, 45 miles from where I sit, has 12. The district also canceled today's planned public meeting at Steele High School, where the two Texas cases of swine flu were confirmed last Friday.
Another 10 suspected cases are being tested.
Okay, real quick, anything else, Reese, that you need to add, sir?
unidentified
Just one more thing.
I'm a regular at the Prison Planet Forums, and they all brought up a good point here, Where do chemtrails factor in the equation?
Because I know you were talking with the doctor about lower immune systems in Mexico as possibly being why it spread so fast.
And we know that there's heavy metals in these chemtrails that they've been spraying us so long.
alex jones
That's what she was saying, was that we know barium salts and aluminum dioxide and all this lowers immune system.
That is a very interesting point.
unidentified
Excellent point, Reece.
alex jones
We need to link to some of the prison...
Planet Forum articles that people are writing and compiling and putting together.
You know, I was doing searches Saturday for our special report trying to find the fake newscast that Nightline did in 2002 where they just started out with a newscast saying we've been attacked with smallpox, people are dying, martial law.
They showed footage of real riots after hurricanes and real looting and people panicked.
And it was meant to be a PSYOP.
Then at the end of the show, they said, oh, this was just a drill.
And then they did it the next four nights as things unfolded, continuing to announce it as if it was real.
I taped that when it was on, and by the second night, and I obviously can't find it in all our storage buildings and the rest of it.
It used to be just me around here, so it's all a big jumbled mess.
But I couldn't find that on YouTube or Google.
But I did find something I'd never seen.
Now, I knew they did Dark Winter.
Q that up, please, that video.
I knew they did Dark Winter.
I talk about that in my famous July 25th TV show where I say, call the White House, tell them don't stage terror attacks in the World Trade Center and blame it on their asset Osama Bin Laden.
And I read the AP article about Dark Winter, about martial law in Texas and Oklahoma because of smallpox breaking out.
So I had the drill article in July.
From June, when they did the drill, here is the June drill by Homeland Security.
We're going to play this again later, it's so important.
I didn't get to it all yesterday at the end of the show, the Sunday show.
Here is the drill.
Homeland Security puts it on that didn't exist supposedly until 2002.
And in it, they're saying Saddam Hussein's working with the Taliban and Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan and we've got to hit them for attacking us.
See, they were already, they showed these fake newscasts to different universities and medical groups.
They showed it to the feds and local first responders to scare them into taking smallpox shots, which they then refused to do, as you know.
But this was all preparatory.
You can see how premeditated and wicked all of this is, so that's coming up later.
Another big issue is, I've forgotten about this, and all my bird flu research and all the doctors we've interviewed, and Dr. Sherry Tinpenny just talked about this medical doctor, it's proven that Tamiflu, owned by Rumsfeld, the Bushes, and Obama's got a big stake in it, who's stock soaring right now, that Tamiflu, when you take it, does knock out the virus, but causes it to only be certain mutations that survive, so it makes it that much more powerful and resistant, just like antibiotics with bacteria.
So you've got people worldwide buying Tamiflu, all the people that are, you know, who medicalize everything, all the people that are scared, all the hypochondriacs, And I don't blame you.
I was never a hypochondriac.
Once you have children, you kind of become a hypochondriac for them.
You know, you love them so much.
And they're putting them on Tamiflu everywhere, which then, if they've got any other regular flu viruses in them that people come in contact with every day, folks.
You come in contact with flu and regular cold viruses and everything else, and your body defeats it.
Well, this thing mutates them and makes them that much stronger.
So everybody's gobbling this.
That's why so many deadly bacteria come out of Latin America.
Because they sell antibiotics like candy there.
And people are always gobbling it for viral infections, which makes the bacteria that much stronger.
Okay, let's run through a bunch of calls here.
You know, I'm surprised.
I did the Saturday show and the Sunday show.
The Saturday show I came in was only internet streams at Infowars.com.
We had about 9,000 listeners that tuned in to the pretty much unannounced live show.
And a few thousand Prison Planet.tv viewers.
And we got calls from Mexico City, you name it.
Calls from where they had quarantines in Canada.
Today, here's the big show on AM and FM.
Shortwave, satellite, internet.
You know, just dwarfing the Saturday show.
And dwarfing even the Sunday show.
And no one is calling from Mexico City.
I want to give that number out again.
The local number.
Because some people can't call 1-800 numbers from Mexico into the U.S. What's the toll-free number into our board here directly in Austin, Texas?
Can you guys punch that up for me again, please, so I can see it?
The number?
It's 512-646-1776.
512-646-1776.
512-646-1776.
Or 888-201-2244.
All right, let's go to some calls.
Randy in California, where they have outbreaks of this.
Randy, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hey Alex, this is a bit off-topic.
I'm 17 years old.
I'm trying to wake up everybody to the New World Order.
I try to explain everything to my parents, my teachers, my relatives.
I try and cover all the issues from corruption, 9-11 truth, the potential de-population, economics.
I'm trying to get people out of the left-right paradigm.
Nobody is listening to me.
I promote your website everywhere.
I go on graffiti rampages, spraying Infowars.com all over the city.
Recently.cop that got put in jail, but now that I'm out, I print out hundreds of Custom posters I make myself and I tape them everywhere.
I'm trying to get the word out, trying to wake everyone up.
alex jones
Well, let me just say this.
When I was, you know, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30. My parents still didn't really listen to me, even when I was a well-known radio talk show host by the age of 23. 22. My parents still didn't really respect me.
Now that I have a wife, children, and they see that I pay my bills on time, they now respect me and ask for advice.
It is normal, when you're a teenager or a young man, for older folks not to listen to you.
They don't think it's your place.
You know, there's cases of a young person running in and saying a building's on fire, Uh, you know, famous cases and people laugh at them and don't believe it, and then walk outside 20 minutes later because they smell smoke.
So don't feel bad.
Now, now, know that handing out flyers, putting up posters, things like that, if it's done well, that will affect people.
People are listening.
Listen. Fox News, CNN, MSNBC are saying they love Ron Paul and hate the New World Order now.
So, they're really, you know, even CIA agent Anderson Cooper comes on, Astor Fortunehead, and says, oh, I don't like the New World Order.
The people aren't going to like hearing about the New World Order or the G20.
So, we are the majority.
It's just that people arrogantly are disrespecting you.
Just keep warning them.
You're only trying to save them and have enough respect.
You already have enough respect for yourself, more than most, to be bold.
That's the first step.
the other step is not caring uh...
and distant to continue what you're doing but uh...
unidentified
go ahead randy it but you If the older people are not going to wake up, it's up to the youth to take over, to take the baton and continue the fight.
Because if the old people are already compartmentalized and they can't understand, young people with a fresh, clean state, they'll be able to wake up and take the system down.
alex jones
That are instrumental in any renaissance or awakening or enlightenment.
And most people, whether they're young or old, have been mesmerized by the television or kind of in a comfort zone.
It's hard to shock them out of that, and it always looks like you're not having an effect until the whole thing collapses.
Believe me!
We're having victories.
They're canceling trans-Texas NAFTA highways.
They're having to back off on gun bans.
They're having to back off on the North American Union.
The Euro expansion is failing in Europe.
The America's Union is failing in Latin America.
The bankers are universally hated.
Congress has a 9% approval rating.
Believe me, folks, don't listen to Tokyo Rose and the New World Order when they tell you, lay down GI, you're losing the fight.
I mean, that's kind of like Baghdad Bob.
As you can see, mortars exploding two miles behind him, saying the Americans have been repulsed.
They're a hundred miles from Baghdad.
I mean, he was a con...
and people watched it and almost believed him.
I remember people on TV were going, well, maybe it's true.
And I said, no, folks, he's a liar.
It's propaganda.
But it's so bold...
In fact, pull up Baghdad Bob.
I want to play a clip of him later.
Yes, the Americans, we have completely destroyed them.
They're 100 miles away, in retreat, we killed 20,000.
Let's go ahead and talk to Jared in California.
Jared, you're on the air.
Come on, Jared.
Go ahead, sir.
unidentified
I'm on.
alex jones
Yeah, go ahead.
unidentified
I am.
I'm the vice president of a club that me and my friend just started at our, uh, at our university.
It's called the Free Republic, and we are making Obama deception videos.
And our campus coordinator won't let us do a fundraiser where we can hand them out or sell them or anything like that without your permission?
We were just wondering who we could email with that.
alex jones
Well look, that's just them being petty and using mind control.
It would be for a civil court to decide whether you could hand those out even if I said you couldn't.
Okay? And so, you have a student group, you're allowed to operate.
If there's no charge against you, you know, you're not guilty until proven innocent.
Okay? You're innocent until proven guilty.
And so, they can't violate your First Amendment.
Give them this MP3 file.
I tell everybody, make all the copies you want for non-profit educational purposes.
Distribute the film to whoever you want.
And the school can't preemptively tell you, oh, we have to, you know, make you bring us all this paperwork before you have your student group being allowed to do this.
Okay, so there you go.
It's free on YouTube.
It's free on Google.
You can hand out flyers with the URL address of the YouTube Change the Channel version.
Stay there.
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The Obama deception completely destroys the myth that Obama is working for the best interest of the American people.
Well, Obama's already fudging.
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If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement, a personality cultist, who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascism.
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Steve Watson, Paul Watson popping in later in the show as well.
Steve Quayle in the final hour.
Okay, I got a lot of medical workers and other people calling in and I got two different phone systems here.
Who is the medical worker in Texas?
Is that Jesse?
Okay, let's go to Jesse in Texas.
Jesse, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
Alex? Yes, sir.
unidentified
Honored to speak with you.
Hey, you know, I was just going to check in with you.
I work in public health at the county level.
We're in as much of the dark as most people are.
I couldn't tell you if this is the worst public health situation since the Black Plague or if this is just something like the common cold or something.
Like, we're out of the loop.
Nobody prepared for it.
No one seems to know what they're supposed to be doing, especially at some of the municipal level that we work with.
The state guys seem to know what's going on.
The people that I'm working with at the Department of State Health Services.
I haven't heard anything out of the feds.
Haven't heard anything from our, you know, county judge or anything.
There's a real disarray in the face of this, and I don't know if it's a reflection that it's some big overwhelming problem that people don't know what to do, or on some level people just aren't taking it seriously, or what it is.
alex jones
Well, let's be rational about this.
I mean, I've pulled the numbers up.
Anybody can Google it.
Just say U.S. deaths per year from flu, and the numbers vary from 15,000 on the low end to 35,000 in a bad flu year.
From the CDC.
So, we got 103 people confirmed dead in Mexico from this.
It's now spreading in the United States.
And if you've got hundreds and hundreds of thousands infected in Mexico, then it's no big deal.
Now, if the media is right, and the Mexican government's telling the truth that there's only 2,000 cases, and it's killed 100 and something people out of those, this is really deadly flu with a very high mortality rate.
So, and I think the fact that it's a...
Sorry, go ahead.
unidentified
I'm sorry, too.
I'm sorry, my phone is beeping here.
I think it's dying, but it'll charge up here.
You know, I don't do a lot of international work, but I have occasionally come into contact with my peers in Mexico.
My gut feeling when I hear those numbers is those are only people that have been tracked by The official public health organizations in Mexico, the deaths, and even the deaths are a little bit up in the air, the hundred deaths that we're hearing thrown around.
But just that the cases, my guess would be there are many thousands more suffering from this flu.
Now, whether they're suffering standard flu symptoms or whether they're on the brink of death, I don't know.
I do know that information is notoriously unreliable there, that there are some cultural factors there in Mexico that people do not cooperate when the survey takers come around, let alone, you know, they think they're sick.
It's just a different country down there.
They have a different attitude about dealing.
You know, here people run into the hospital because they have a hangnail or something.
CDC probably has hangnail figures that they can share with you.
But Mexico is not that way.
People kind of mistrust authority to some extent because there's no reason to trust authority in Mexico, right?
I mean, it's just...
I suspect the numbers of deaths are higher, and I suspect the number of people that have them are higher, and it'll be months before we really get a clear picture of what went on down there.
alex jones
Yeah, I think a lot of medical experts are concerned because this thing is this transmutagenic virus that's got animal, human, but not just one animal, but lots of different human variant DNA pieces.
from human flu and then pig flu, you know, swine flu and the bird flu and that it's killing young people mirrors the 1918 outbreak that killed 40 plus million.
But as Dr. Tenpenny just said, toxic chemicals in the environment are linked to when in the presence of just a regular flu killing young people.
So I think this is opening up in the air and we're going to watch it in the next few days and just pray That it turns out to not be a big deal, but the huge response by government means they're either capitalizing on this to fearmonger, or they're fearmongering because they don't know what's going to happen,
or with this federal government's history, or other governments' history, this could be a bioweapon release It could mutate, as the Associated Press doctors that they're talking to are saying, into something more deadly, as tens of thousands of people worldwide have it mutating in their bodies.
It could mutate into something harmless.
It'll probably mutate into lots of different variants.
We just don't know.
And so let's just hope and pray, this is hype, hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
But again, oil of oregano, people need to get vitamin A, vitamin C, 5,000 units.
Uh, people need to get lots of sleep.
Those are the basics.
Uh, what health department area are you with?
I mean, just in a general area.
Are you in South Texas, East Texas, North Texas?
Hey, Matt just, uh, or, the caller just dropped from Texas.
Alright, we'll come back to Matt and many others on the other side of this quick break.
We'll get a quick, uh, view from England from Paul Watson and a lot more.
Stay with me.
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The Obama deception completely destroys the myth that Obama is working for the best interest of the American people.
unidentified
Well, Obama's already fudging.
He's fudged since day one in this election.
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If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascism.
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While you were sleeping, they came and took it all away.
The lanes and the medals The places where you used to play It was an inside job By the well-connected Let's hope this isn't an inside job.
Don't ever protest.
Don't ever leave me.
It's just fine.
It wasn't inside.
alex jones
We're going to get a quick report from Paul Watson in the United Kingdom on an Atlantic view on this.
And we're going to go to the phone banks at Genesis and the phone banks down here in Austin, Texas.
Try to give each caller a minute or so so we can get to everybody.
Coming up in an hour, Dr. Deagle's gonna pop in.
And then we've got, for a full hour, Steve Quayle, who last Monday said he was getting intel about a staged flu outbreak.
Talk about nailing it, so...
And I get confused.
I know he talked about it.
Was it on his show I was on the Thursday before that, or was it on Monday?
Somebody ought to go listen to his show we did Thursday before and then Monday.
I know he said it on one of them.
And I've been telling you it's in the cards for him to stage something like this, but...
Mexico is on the verge of collapse politically, so they, this certainly, and Mexicans brought this up before I even made the point on air, I wasn't going to say it, but people were emailing and calling, making the point from Mexico, that this lets the state kind of shut down any revolution down there.
Everybody forgets what they're doing, they're worried about dying.
Again, this is a way over response for a hundred people dead?
I mean, hundreds and hundreds, and I pulled up the numbers, they have over 300 deaths a day on average.
In Mexico from tuberculosis.
Most of them in Mexico City.
I mean, they've got all...
people are dying of a common cold by the hundreds every day in Mexico City.
There are 30 plus million people in there.
Right in that valley.
Formerly the seat of the Aztec Empire.
Montezuma. So, what's going on down there?
You know, these plagues normally Come out of Asia.
Every major flu comes out of Asia.
Now it's coming out of Mexico City?
And it's a mix of flus from all over the world, animal and human?
Coming up in just a moment, we're going to Paul.
This is a AP headline.
French news agency, excuse me, AFP.
Swine flu virus may cause global pandemic, UN chief.
So the fear-mongering is going into high gear.
Well, let's just hope this isn't the case, but...
Regardless, I got a bad feeling about all this.
Is that because they're just going to use this for more of a crackdown, more of a police state?
Shades of things to come?
Well, then Napolitano comes out Sunday and says, oh yeah, this may go away, but another big one is coming.
Very cryptically.
Don't worry, it's going to happen.
What does that mean?
That's out of Reuters headline.
Napolitano says U.S. should prepare for new flu outbreak.
Napolitano says U.S. should Prepare for another flu outbreak soon, even if this one fizzles out.
I did want to remind all the listeners that we need to stop procrastinating.
Barack Obama is the tip of the New World Order spear.
The open borders, the gun control...
By the way, Governors of America has reported they're trying to sign a treaty that will, and it's in the language, ban all reloading in the United States.
That news is off the chart.
In fact, that is in my stack.
Remind me to cover that next hour, guys.
I gotta write a note on that.
Cover guns.
Even though this is going on.
We have got to expose Obama as working for the bankers.
And of course the film is non-partisan.
We show how Bush helped engineer the banker takeover, and how Obama's people helped write the banker takeover, and how Paulson and Geithner and all them worked together, and how it's seamless integration.
I get these stupid emails from liberals and right-wingers going, wait a minute, your film's exposing Bush and Obama.
And, you know, the banker takeover started with Bush.
Yes, I know.
That's what we say in clear English.
That's the whole point.
They're one group.
They work with each other.
It's good cop, bad cop.
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
We have to get past the presidents and realize they're just front men.
That's what the whole film is about.
That it's bipartisan.
And if we wake people up to that, they can stop dividing us along left-right lines.
So that's why the Obama deception needs to be seen.
Because people have never heard this.
They don't understand this.
This is how it works.
It's what the big political scientists talk about.
It's what the documents show.
This is how the world operates.
And most of the public is caught up in fairy tales.
And so that's why nothing changes.
You expose the false reality.
The Matrix-like bamboozle-ing that is going on.
How the public's been shanghaied psychologically.
You can all end.
No longer left and right, but tyranny versus liberty.
The people versus the social engineers, the New World Order, the eugenicist.
That's what Endgame, Terror Storm, Obama Deception, all those films cover it.
If you attack someone from a left-right perspective, you energize the false paradigm.
You put more energy into it.
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Please get it.
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Give it to people.
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You're authorized to.
The DVD cover.
You know, we had a caller from a university.
You know, if it was young Ford Foundation-funded anarchists who wear red stars on their shirts and call for Lenin and Mao to take over.
They're not anarchists.
Communists call themselves that now.
Not all the anarchists.
I mean the Foundation-funded ones, let's be clear.
People build a straw man and say I'm attacking all anarchists.
I'm not, I'm saying those.
You know, they can go block hallways, do whatever they want, universities left alone.
Guys are trying, I've got other reports of this, they're trying to give out copies of the Obama Deception, universities all over, they're telling them they can't.
The DVD cover says copy and share!
The film cover says it!
And I get all these emails and faxes saying send me an email, send me a fax, say I can do it.
You got the authorization!
But you notice, the land of the free, home of the brave, they're telling you, you preemptively have to prove that you can make copies of a film and give them out.
Bull! That's not the school's purview, it's not the university's job, it's not their jurisdiction.
You're not guilty until proven innocent.
Tell them to go fly a kite!
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Paul, I'm not going to keep you.
I know you're writing a bunch of stories and working on this right now, but the big point that Dr. Tim Penny pointed out earlier is that Tamiflu only leaves the resistant, stronger strains of the flu alive, just like antibiotics only make the strongest bacteria survive.
And everybody's gobbling this stuff all over the world right now, so that accelerates their mutations right there alone, she was saying.
It can mutate into something deadly.
It can mutate into something that isn't a problem.
Paul Watson, what's your gut on this?
I always like your basic analysis.
What's your gut on this right now?
It's too soon to be able to be concrete in any of this.
What's your bottom line here?
paul joseph watson
Well that's right, Alex.
I mean, there's a vacuum of information.
There's a disconnect between Between what's happening in Mexico and what's happening in the United States in the fact that there have been no deaths whatsoever in the United States yet.
Now they're saying 150 in Mexico.
My gut is that it's a hoax and I'm going on the fact that in 1976 something very similar happened.
Obviously it was a different strain, but it was related to swine flu.
We've got a story posted on prisonplanet.com from 1976 where Ron Paul comments on what happened and he called it at the time quote an evil political maneuver.
What happened was basically some soldiers at Fort Dix got ill and it turned out to be swine flu and this led to Gerald Ford at the time and Donald Rumsfeld.
alex jones
And on the back of that, Rumsfeld led the charge along with others in that administration to get the entire population of the United States vaccinated against swine flu.
paul joseph watson
And it turned out that Of the small minority who did end up taking the vaccine, hundreds were injured and 56 died.
And Ron Paul...
alex jones
By the way, that's a whitewash.
Over 500 people, the government admits, got Guillain-Barré's and autoimmune disorder from it.
That is pure bull.
The real number, and I've looked at the studies, was in the thousands of dead.
But go ahead.
But of course, the medical system that forced the shots on people...
It's going to want to cover things up, but their internal documents take on SV40 and the polio vaccine is 198 million getting a deadly cancer virus from just the first round alone.
Go ahead.
paul joseph watson
Right, so at the time, Ron Paul said, I predict these blatant advertising efforts to panic the people into taking swine flu shots will fail, which is largely what happened.
And also, Congressman Larry McDonald at the time said, quote, I think the swine flu program is a tailor-made hoax that finds its roots in frightening the American people.
alex jones
And by the way, these were the patriots of their day, and they clearly killed McDonald.
And this shows how Ron Paul, if you see speeches of his from 30 years ago, it's like Alex Jones.
He's gotten more mellow over the years.
But yeah, I knew Ron Paul had exposed the swine flu.
Start over with him and McDonald.
This is key.
paul joseph watson
Yeah, McDonald said, Continuing, quote, I believe that a full investigation of those in charge should be launched, and if it turns out to be a dishonest promotion, everyone responsible should be removed from their jobs.
Now, you've still got Rumsfeld there today, owning Tamiflu, being the former board of director.
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And of course, Tamiflu, which is being pushed intensively over the past few days by the media and the government, when it's not, as you mentioned earlier, it's not even going to cure it if it really does mutate.
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It's owned by Gilead, former board of director Donald Rumsfeld, he still has a major stockholding.
Current board of directors include George Shultz, Bilderberg member, and Etienne D'Avignon, Bilderberg member, and also connected is J.R. De Vink, Bilderberg member.
So these are the people that are going to be profiting wildly, no matter how bad this crisis gets.
Then on top of that, you've got Kleiner, Perkins, Caulfield& Byers, which is a venture capital firm that holds shares in eight top biodefense and pandemic companies, which also has a now lucrative partnership with Al Gore.
So Al Gore's going to profit from this as well.
And then, of course, the article we put out today, which is about Baxter International.
It's been announced that they are working with the World Health Organization to develop a vaccine.
alex jones
Yeah, they've been chosen, the ones caught mixing live bird flu with vaccines in Europe.
paul joseph watson
Right. They were caught red-handed last month shipping out the live bird virus to 18 different labs in Europe.
And on top of that, they were involved in developing the SARS vaccine when that was a big scare four or five years ago.
And they were given tens of millions, 33 million pounds a loan by the UK government.
alex jones
So this is the go-to company for the insiders at the World Health Organization, at the CDC, who are Eugenicist, Lock, Stock and Barrel.
paul joseph watson
Exactly. And as your previous guest said, you know, as long as they've got the pretext of an emergency situation, because of the changes to the law in the past few years, They've got all the cover they need in terms of liabilities for injuries and death with these vaccines, just so long as they do it under the pretext of a crisis, which is exactly how it will be.
alex jones
And they've now declared a crisis, so the military-industrial complex's 36 Level 4 bioweapons labs churning out dangerous vaccines can be forced on the public, all under the cover of the hype and fear-mongering that's going on.
Exactly, so no matter how bad it gets, or if it fizzles out in a week or two, you know...
Right, and on the subject of hysteria, which is what I see, from here in the UK it's...
paul joseph watson
It's announced that there are 25, it's a quote, 25 possible swine flu cases.
That's the headline.
But when you actually look at the details of these 25 supposed cases, 14 have been proven negative.
And in some cases, the people haven't even been to Mexico.
To re-emphasize, none whatsoever have been confirmed as swine flu.
And there's even a case of a woman in Manchester Which is about 90 minutes from where I live, who had flu symptoms, which of course are exactly the same, you know, the normal flu symptoms are exactly the same as this swine flu.
She admitted herself to a hospital, and it turns out that she's not even been to Mexico, and she's been in the UK for the past two weeks or so.
alex jones
Well also, most people who think they get the flu have only gotten some type of cold.
paul joseph watson
Right. So there are people...
You know, the fear-mongering's taking effect.
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paul joseph watson
And, you know, the panic is spreading faster than the actual virus.
alex jones
Yeah, it has all the earmarks of a War of the Worlds, Orson Welles fear-mongering.
And then that's what they've said at the CDC.
They say, well, regardless, this is good.
Gets us ready for the real pandemic.
Paul, stay there.
And your call is coming up.
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They're talking about testing.
They are testing all Americans and Mexicans that fly in on the flights.
But the United States is not testing Mexicans and Americans coming in from Mexico.
England and Europe and Russia are announcing banning a lot of imports from the United States.
I mean, this is just unbelievable ninnying and fear-mongering when you look at only 103 deaths, unless they're covering that up.
And from all the calls we're getting from Mexico, we know they're covering up the number of people that are actually sick.
We know it's more than 2,000.
Well, the thing about it is, we're damned if we do, we're damned if we don't.
paul joseph watson
When we posted a few articles about this on Friday, There were a few comments there, oh typical Alex Jones fear-mongering again, and then we come out and say that it's probably a hoax, and some people might say we're not taking it seriously enough, but you just have to look at what's known and put it in perspective.
There's 40 cases in the US, only one person's been hospitalized, and all the people have recovered.
You know, there's 25 Suspected cases in the in the UK and none have been confirmed whatsoever.
Around, you know, 35,000 people in a bad flu season die in the US every year from complications related to flu viruses and an even greater number than that die in Mexico.
From what I've read, because if you read the actual reports closely, they will say that of the 149 deaths in Mexico, only a handful have actually been confirmed as being swinefully related.
So just think about the amount of people that die in Mexico every day from infectious diseases.
alex jones
No, it's a horrible third-world country in the big cities.
It's very nice in smaller towns, but it's really bad in their big cities.
Hellish is the word I would use.
But, Paul, bottom line, I think, and we'll see if we're proven wrong, I hope we're not, I think this is just fear-mongering by the Mexican government.
They want to grandstand as the saviors, hand out masks to everybody, have the images of the army doing that.
I think that's all that's happening here, is that Mexico has hyped this and fear-mongered this up.
That's what I think.
Stay there.
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